Hate Watching Pathfinder: Swords, Snow, and Terrible Viking Fashion Choices

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's going to be a short episode.
It's not going to ever be ashort episode.
I think this one's going to beshort because there's not going
to be a lot to talk about andit's not a super long runtime,
so it's going to be fine, youdid.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
You're very commendable.
Well, we got to talk about thattoo.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Oh, are you going to give me flowers, as the kids say
, or is it the opposite, I don'tknow?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
opposite I don't know , I'm gonna shit in your mouth.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm gonna give you a shit your mouth.
It could go either way.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
That's great okay, I'm wasting all my comedy gold.
Welcome to he Watching with Danand Tony the least preluded

(00:52):
episode we've ever had.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I know we're into it quick.
I've only been rolling for oneminute 30 seconds.
That is a world record.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Usually, Tony and I are like blah blah blah, 15, 20
minutes.
Yeah, Did you see this person?
We used to know they'rereleasing their own feature film
.
That happened this week.
Strassner yeah, MichaelStrassner, Good job.
Good job, Strass Jay Duplass AmI saying that last name right,
check it out.
South by.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Southwest Baltimoreons, baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I mean, come on, that is a great title, 10 out of 10
title in a world that has seen.
You know, we got to call moviesdune 2 baltimoreans, you know
that's pretty good, pretty darngood.
You know, very exciting in 2012would have been a smash hit in
the movie theaters.
Now, hopefully it'll do reallywell, uh, wherever things stream

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.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
It'll stream and it's going to be nice.
It's going to be really good, Ican feel it.
I have a question for you, tony.
I may or may not have an answer, but please.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Why does everything seem to be streaming on Peacock
but also going away in a monthon Peacock?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
It is.
I don't know if we're justchasing it.
We're chasing that Peacock highor something.
Because you were chasing thatpeacock high or something,
because this is the second onein a row.
That's like it's leaving soon.
You better watch it.
Super weird.
I don't know what's going on.
Wait, this was on peacock.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
No, this was somewhere else though or
something, another movie thatwas going away that we're
talking about yeah I mean, oh,and I know what it was, it was
um we watched pathfinder.
Oh, 300 was on something.
Ah, the 300 sure to watch forfree, and it was.
It was um we watched pathfinderoh, 300 was on something, ah the
300, sure to watch for free,and it was going away in like 26
days.
It was like it was, I think itwas on peacock and it was like,

(02:32):
yeah, this is going away yeah,maybe they just don't pay for
the rights for very long.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Maybe they're there for one month.
I'll give you eight dollars tostream it for one month.
What do you say, fellas?
But 300 came out in 2007.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So did this movie.
Well, yeah, we'll talk aboutthat, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Very excited.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Each week we talk about a movie.
Sometimes we preface it with alot of things that have nothing
to do with that movie.
Sometimes we get right into it.
This is a Tony peak.
Oh yeah, when did you peak Tony?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, so here's what happened, right.
So, dan, last week, if youdon't follow the show, first of
all, welcome Shame Pleasure tohang out.
Shame on you.
Dan picked Conan the Barbarianand I already forgot the

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director's name and this is thesecond movie we've done by him.
But I was watching this movieand it it reminded me conan the
barbara, reminded me of atrailer I saw many years ago
about this movie with with my mygood friend, carl urban.
So I looked it up as I waswatching conan and I was like,
holy shit, it's the samedirector and it came out three
years before.
So then I was like, well,that's what we're doing and
we'll see if he learned anylessons.
And spoiler alert oh, you thinkno, I think he did, because
this movie is way worse thanconan.
I would watch conan a hundredtimes before I watch this movie

(03:54):
again yeah, you're, you're right.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I mean, he has he, he has learned lessons, but he
also has made the same movieagain.
Yes but just slightly better.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
It's still a bit.
Conan's still a terrible movie,but this movie is also worse,
so he did incrementally.
He's a baby step, stan.
That's all you can ask for.
If we would have given him 15,20 more movies, I think he would
have gotten there I really do.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
He did a Halloween movie.
Did he doeen movie?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
did he do halloween or did friday the 13th?
He did friday the 13th andhalloween and texas chainsaw
massacre.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Oh no, you're right, he did friday the 13th.
Okay, that's what I thoughtyeah, he did.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, he did.
The reboot remakes of in the2000s uh, both fine movies okay,
so he does, there's somethinghe could do.
Okay, people don't love fridaythe 13th.
I think it's totally fine.
It's not great, but it's likein every couple of years we
rewatch it.
It's not an every yearhalloween movie, but every once

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in a while.
And I'm just not a huge texaschainsaw massacre fan.
But are some things?
We talked about it last nightwhen we were watching this movie
.
There are a few scenes that westill vividly remember from his
version of Texas Chainsaw,because it's pretty messed up
and visceral.
There's one shot where theyeither pull back or push through
a gunshot in someone's head.

(05:21):
The camera tracks through thehead.
Really cool stuff.
But you know, this movie isworse than both of those.
I would wager.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, it's interesting because this movie
2007, hour and 39 minutes.
They cut 10 minutes of violenceand gore.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Which is all that's left in the movie, anyhow.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
And I guess a sex scene.
Right, there wasn't a sex scenein this movie no, no yeah.
I think when the girl shows upat the cave, they have sex.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
And that was in the other one.
Well, yeah, it was like ifyou're going to take it out of
this movie, I'm putting in Conanmotherfucker.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Exactly, and they did release a cut of the movie with
all the, all the stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh, I didn't watch that one.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, I don't think.
I don't.
It didn't, it might've beenavailable.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I read about this afterwards Okay, so it might've
been like a DVD.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
You can buy the DVD for sure you can see it on there
.
They were like extended.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
It might be worth ordering off of Amazon just for
a Carl Urban sex scene.
I don't know I'm into it.
I would pick Carl Urban overJason Momoa any day.
I know people probably don'tagree with that, I mean he was
better than Jason was.
He's an actor.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
You're like, oh, I'm going to start everything.
Is there any character whosename in this movie you learned
from watching the movie?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
No, I feel like I should be ready for these tests.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
No, I say that every time.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I know, but I feel one of these times I really want
to shock you and I want to justhave a laundry list of names
ready and I just never do it.
I never do the homework.
I mean I know Ghost, but that'snot his real name, right?
No, that's his name of namesready to, and I just never do, I
never do the homework.
I I mean I know ghost, I think,but that's not his real name, I
think, right?
No?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
that's his name.
That is his name okay.
Okay, I think they said it oncesort of yeah, they didn't say
hey ghost come over here green.
Yeah, they sort of said,somebody said it like in
reference to him or somethinglike that.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I do not believe they ever said his girlfriend's name
.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Pathfinder's daughter .
Yeah, that's probably the name.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, starfire, her name is Starfire.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
They for sure didn't say that.
I feel, like I'd remember acool name like Starfire.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
And then Pathfinder occupation, not a name, not a
name?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
The big bad guy thinks name is Gunnar who?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I don't believe the.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Vikings had names.
Yes, Well, I mean in a scriptyou have to give them all names,
so you can differentiate them.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
You could just do Viking 1 through 15, because
that's basically how I rememberthem.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
See, I don't think a guy that gets the lead villain
role in a movie really wants tobe your Viking one.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
He's like but I'm third built.
What do you mean?
I'm Viking one.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I don't believe those characters ever refer to each
other as names.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
No, for sure not.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, and could you tell the difference in any of
the scenes, except for maybe theoccasional close-up between
Viking 1 and Viking 2?
Or any?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
of the other Vikings?
Not at all, because this isalso very poorly directed.
So there's a lot of weird jumpcuts everywhere and there are
scenes when the two Vikings aretalking where, I swear to God,
it's just one guy talking tohimself.
I have no idea who is numberone, who is number two, who is
leader.
What they're talking about it'sit's also it's super

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underexposed, right.
Everything's so dark and grainy.
I I couldn't tell half of whatwas going on in this movie um
the next question I have.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, like you, so 300 came out the exact same year
as this.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Right, okay, same week as this.
No, did it really?
That's weird, Because I wouldhave assumed that this movie saw
300 and was like I'm going tokind of do that, but with
Vikings One year later.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
You assume that this was one year after 300.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
That's interesting.
Same week, I bet I know whichone did better.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Got to get back to that in one second.
Okay.
So how do they feel likethey're from the same, they were
birthed in the same birth canal.
One's like the misshapen twinand the other's like it's like a
twins One's ArnoldSchwarzenegger and one's Danny
DeVito.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Which one's the good one out of those?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
yeah, I know, that's like you know what I'm saying
yes, 100, you know, I have theone twin fed off of the other
twin and the, the pathfindertwin, was this withered little
creature that came out like helpme.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, um, I don't have an answer to that at all.
Okay, it's, it's bizarre,because what is you know what we
should look up?
Did you look up budgets for thetwo of them not?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
really, um, our dude came out of doing mercedes
commercials.
He was a big commercial guylike you know, big, big, big
commercial.
Yeah, did what's his name?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
do commercials zach snyder yeah probably not, I bet.
And this is just based onnothing, so nobody yell at me.
I feel like he's more of like a.
He's probably like a musicvideo guy like um but they both
came out of those slick worldsprobably let's.
Let's look up zach snyder'sIMDb real quick and see if he

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did anything previous.
According to Google, by the way, both budgets were between $60
and $65 million.
Whether that's true or not, Iobviously can't confirm it, wow,
but there's a chance that theywere pretty identical.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, I mean, zack really used a lot of green
screen.
So after watching half of thismovie I was like, okay, what I'm
going to do is I'm going to gowatch 300.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh interesting, I'll tell you what I watched later.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Watch 15 minutes of 300 and see if, because the
first half of this movie and thelast half of this movie just
intolerable to watch, You'rejust like come on intolerable to
watch.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
You're just like, just like, come on.
Just, which is lesson numberone that he learned in between
this and conan was do somethinghilarious at the beginning of
conan and he did the birthing ofthe chat, cut open a woman and
tore out a child, I mean that'sfunny as shit so lesson one
check he did somethingsurprising at the beginning.
That's the nice way of sayingit, yeah um, so I watched the
first.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know, I don't know 15 minutes of of 300 holds
up.
Great, you're just like we have.
We have real actors.
What's her name?
His wife is cersei from game ofthrones.
She's in the movie that Iwatched too she's, and she's
just like what you know she's asuperhero.
She was, yeah oh yeah what wasour number one movie that people

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don't give it?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
the judge dread movie she was the bad guy.
Judge straight alert.
That's what I re-watched afterI watched pathfinder, because I
was like I need to.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I need to watch carl urban kick some ass right now,
and he does you know you, justyou watch like these good actors
do good acting and you knowyou're like 300.
Whatever you want to thinkabout where zack snyder went,
you know, because you know thesepeople are standing in front of
the wheat fields.
It's very similar shots to whathappened in the rebel moon
movies.

(12:33):
You're like yeah wow okay, he'snot learning the lessons either
.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Um yeah, well it's tough, it's tough well, because
you know, 300 did really good.
Right, it did really well.
So you don't learn thoselessons.
You learn that like, hey, thisshit works, I should do this
again.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
People love somebody standing in front of a wheat
field.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Apparently they do.
That is not what we liked.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Not what we liked.
Sometimes you learn the wronglessons.
Yeah, well, that is cool.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
This is Sparta.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, great, you know you're yeah, well, that is cool
, this is Sparta.
Yeah, great, you just, you know, you're like oh, what's he
gonna say?
Oh well, we know what he'sgonna say.
He's gonna say this is Sparta.
He's like go screw yourself.
You know, we got whatever 300good movies, this movie you know
, I think there's two lines thatI wrote down in the whole movie
, and I wrote it down becausethey're bad well also how many
lines.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I wish we should do a word count of this movie,
because it's got to be less than100.
I swear there's very littledialogue in this movie and what
there is is just awful.
Yeah, but I don't think I wrotedown a single line.
I can't even.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
There's two point Pathfinder.
The Pathfinder says a couple ofthings that are significant
supposedly to the plot, the bearthing, the bear is one of them.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
That's the only thing I wrote down.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh, and she did one about wolves, which I didn't
write down, but when I wentlooking for the sex scene to
make sure I hadn't just somehowmissed it, I was like she said
in every man there are twowolves A wolf that pees on the
carpet, one that's smart enoughto go outside, or something.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I don't know.
Did they have wolf pets?
Because all wolves belongoutside, if you ask me.
So I don't know if I like thisanalogy here.
The real question is where didthe Vikings' dogs go?
Great question.
Maybe they adopted the dogs?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Maybe they did.
Should we talk about this movie?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
I aren't we done.
I feel like we did a good job.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Uh, we start with the credits.
There's warriors marching,there's drums, there's chains.
There's vikings attackingnative americans.
The year is 800.
They're here as settlers andokay, um, I did the, I
researched vikings.
Okay, they made it to northamerica.
They did have a settlement upin.

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Oh, wow, canadian isles aboveconnecticut they also did
iceland, they also did greenland, they also wow, did did
settlements all over the place,and what they did in these
settlements is, yes, they didraid, they did, they did do is
yes, they did raid, they did dothings.
They stole stuff.
They were powerful and jerky,but they also were-.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Jerky.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
They also were mercenaries, they also worked as
mercenaries at times.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Oh, you could just hire them out to do your dirty
deeds.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
In this movie.
I'm going to jump ahead whenthey explain this to us Okay,
they're here to settle, butbefore they can settle they're
going to kill everyone, Everyone.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Everyone Just raising the whole place, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Three little boats of guys.
We're going to kill everyonebecause they're dirty or
something.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, you know the classic white man people.
You know we're we're bad peopleend of story.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
But you see, it's a terrible way to set up your bad
people.
Make them come here to take allof their stuff.
We're you know sure we're gonnashow up right after the spring,
right when they're, right afterthey.
They've they've tanned all thehides and we're going to steal
all their good stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah which makes sense.
I believe in that.
A general just like ah, we'regoing to destroy it, all that's
dumb.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
The other thing they did they took slaves Vikings.
Vikings took slaves man.
They weren't very nice at all.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
The only thing I learned they didn't actually
have pointy helmets, that's whatI learned in a Google search
and that's the most disappointedthing I've ever heard.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
But there's some movie that they're coming out
with and they oh, it's what'shis name?
What's the new?
Christopher Nolan.
It's one of the old, like Troykind of ones you know old, greek
, whatever and they're doinglike the most standard.
You know bullshit helmet andeveryone's getting so mad
they're like that's not whatthey wore.

(16:53):
Get it right for once.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's just not period accurate.
Come on, guys, blah, blah, blah, yeah I get.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
So just give them a motivation that actually is a
motivation.
Their motivation is we want tokill everyone and then, at a
certain point, we're going tolose everyone.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
we have to kill one guy, Well because he's like them
or something.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's not a real motivation.
If you lose 100 guys doingsomething and you have 200 guys,
you're not going to be like weshould keep doing that because
we got another 100 guys we couldwaste.
Yeah, there's sunk cost fallacy.
Come on, these guys are notgoing by that.
Do you know what the sunk costfallacy is?

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I sure don't, but I was going to just let that one
go because I was like I'm suresome people in the audience know
what it is.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Sunk cost.
Fallacy is when you investmoney.
Invest in something either timeor money or energy, and then
you feel like you can't get out.
You know I got to keep throwingmoney into it.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Similar to this podcast.
It's like we started it.
We're too deep to stop, or justah, how do we get out of here?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Nothing has happened.
It's going to end.
When I end, I'm going to fallover and Tony's going to be like
well that's, that's our show,folks.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Dan is starting to decompose.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
The show's over.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Goodbye, um, I'm gonna have shannon just weakened
at bernie's your body for atleast a month, but I mean that
was the other thing.
Is that's your conflict withyour number two?
Is he's all like?
Why do we keep doing this?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
right, yeah, this is dumb.
We should go do other stuffright now.
Oh no, we gotta get to sky.
That's my's, my Viking.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
But that would involve characters actually
interacting as opposed to beingsort of these monolithic
situations that just roll acrossthe ground.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
You want to know what my big problem is.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Tell me your big problem, Tony.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
So I watched the trailer the other day and you
know who narrates the trailerMorgan Freeman.
Morgan Freeman.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Where is he in this movie?

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, which he did narrate, conan.
So I was like are they going todo the exact same thing?
They don't, so I wonder if theyjust Somebody?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
knows Morgan Freeman.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I don't know it's weird, but I thought he was for
sure going to have something todo with this movie.
He didn't.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I was real.
It's like it'd be $100,000 andI will do it.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Done.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
They're like well, that might fool a few people
when it's the end of the movie.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Hook line and sinker right here.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
So we see this lady walking through the snow.
A Native American lady she seesa white horse.
She follows the white horse.
There's a Viking boat which Iwas like that's pretty cool.
That would kind of mess withyour mind if you ran into a
Viking boat.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay, so that's my problem right there.
Do you hear the words you justsaid?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
What.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
If you ran into a Viking, she literally runs into
the boat.
You don't see that before youget to it, dan, it's a big boat.
She kind of walks up on it.
It's like three feet away fromher, but she finally realizes
that she's got a giant boat here.
I was just worried about hersafety, because she's obviously
not very, she doesn't payattention.
She's a woman, okay, and that'sour show.

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Everybody, we're out.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
She goes in there.
She pulls on a chain.
Up comes a dead Viking out ofthe water.
She finds more dead Vikings.
A big Viking statue of a Vikingfalls over on her.
Then there's a child with asword.
He drops the sword and thenthey hug it out.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, I was confused on this.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
This is the first party that was in the credits.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
But, they lost, they're all dead.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, they're all dead.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
The Vikings aren't all that good at this if you
think about it.
They lost, so they lose twice.
Yeah, that's what I said, Imean that's.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Three ships, first time they send one ship.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
one ship loses, that's not enough.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Three ships sad to chance at winning.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
They did okay for a while.
Yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
They have a council.
Oh no, they have the counciland they're all like is this a
demon?
He'll become a monster.
And the mom's like we'll all bemonsters if we kill him, which
not the way it works.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
No, no.
Also, it would be cool if hedid become a monster.
You know that's a differentmovie, not a real monster, but
similar to how we were talkingabout in Conan.
I feel like it's the same thingwhere he's not really doing
anything.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Oh yeah, I mean, he is just a normal guy that hangs.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
There's no conflict with him.
You know he's like hey, there'sno like conflict with him.
You know, I mean like he's gotnothing to do his torment level
is zero, right he's.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
He's a guy that's like dumped into this.
You know, we, we fast forwardto the.
So they decide to let him stay.
We jump forward, I think, uh,20 years yeah, something like
that.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Not as far as.
So he's only like 22?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
No, he's like nine, he's like eight or nine.
Yeah, 24, 25.
Yeah mid-20s?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, mid-20s, you're right, younger than I thought,
okay.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
So 15 years this guy's?
They won't let him be a brave,but they literally tell us that
in the movie.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's not a thing that he's been living with.
This should be.
And they tell him oh, by theway, you shouldn't be in the
tent, can you leave the tentplease?
And he's like oh, this is thefirst I'm hearing of this, I
guess I'll leave.
Yeah, that's good we.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
That is not how we're , that's not how we should do it
that's so.
We should set up that he is,this outsider.
We should see him being shunned, we should.
But he's like.
Everybody loves him, excepthe's kind of not a brave kind of
sort of yeah, like you're notreally one of us, but we really
love you.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
So just you know you could do everything except for
this one thing in conan.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
When the guy was a kid, we had this race, and so he
he proved himself.
Did you think they were gonnado that?
When they were all in the tentand told him he couldn't be
brave, did you think they weregoing to be like?
You know, we're going to testyou people.
And he was going to win.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, I mean that's well, yeah, because that makes
sense.
But instead he's just like he'scool with it.
He just kind of was like OK,yeah, whatever you guys want to
do, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'll just go back to carrying baskets all over the
place, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Now he goes and practices a sword at one point,
which is confusing real quickly,because later when he's like,
hey, everybody you need to run,they're gonna kill you because
they use these weapons that cutthings, and they're all like,
what is this thing you have?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
but he's had that sword his whole life they also
had an entire viking boat worthof stuff and ostensibly for 15
years, an entire bunch of deadvikings that all had swords and
all I mean they would have theseweapons or at least know what
they are like maybe they're likewe don't use these weapons.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
They're not for us, that's fine, but they know what
they are.
They should not be like whoa itcut through something.
I can't believe this.
That's very silly.
Yeah, because that's fine, butthey know what they are.
They should not be like whoa itcut through something.
I can't believe this.
That's very silly.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, because that's always a thing with the whole
Star Trek.
We're not allowed to interact.
Then somebody leaves a phaserlaying around.
They just left a whole Viking.
They wouldn't get that boatgoing again, these guys would
totally have that boat going.
They would be using that forall kinds of fishing.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
They'd be rocking that boat.
No, it didn't move 15 years,nobody went to it.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
They don't use chains for things.
We live the same way, bullshit,bullshit.
He sees his lady love acrossthe village because the other
village has come and they'redoing a, you know, village to
village thing Hang out Like ablock party.
He's got a guy that hangs outbehind her who I'm assuming is

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her brother.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Great question.
I thought it was her husband,but then it never came up again.
I was like, okay, I guess not.
So probably brother.
Yeah, you're probably right.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
We never know.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
He never says anything.
You don't need to know.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
We know that they're going to fight eventually.
They never fight.
There's never a conflict.
He never even says well, theydon't shake hands Because they
don't shake hands.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
He comes to shake his hand.
He's like I'm not shaking yourhand, but internally, obviously.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
And then, uh, carl urban's like okay, cool, bro,
and I think that's the last timethey interact for the movie
you've set up this whole thingwith this antagonistic character
who's keeping you from yourlady love.
Yeah, we're not gonna use,we're gonna don't worry about it
, don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
he should be with the group that they meet up with
later.
Maybe he is, I don't even know,I guess.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
He's in the cave.
He's in the cave, but nothingever comes back up.
He's in the cave where he'sinjured.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, he's like oh, I passed out when the bear was.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
He's in the bear cave and then when they leave, he
goes with them, he's sort thebear cave and then he, when they
leave, he goes with them.
He's sort of in charge, sort of.
Pathfinder's in charge, but hestays with the main group when
they leave.
So he's there.
He has some red on his face soyou can sort of recognize him.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Great.
I just thought that if they metup again later, that something
should happen like tensionsshould rise again.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, that would make sense.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
But they didn't do it .
That's all right.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
They had too many endless battles.
Did you read reviews of?

Speaker 1 (26:36):
this thing.
By the way, there's a lot ofreviews that are like well, the
action's cool, but the rest ofit sucks.
I disagree.
I thought the action wasdreadful.
We've been.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
We've been blessed by much better action as time goes
by, and so I think back thenthat's, true they were just like
oh, you know, I mean I don'twatch the lord of the rings
movie, but movies.
But maybe the action in thereis good or maybe it's kind of eh
but people just love it so muchI think it's probably pretty
good.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I don't remember.
I'm not a huge Lord of theRings fan, but I am a huge Viggo
Mortensen fan, so you know it'stough.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I just remember that second movie just being
intolerably long and it was justpeople riding horses across
landscapes and I was just likeplease kill me.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
But the question is did you ever play the
PlayStation 2 video adaptationof the Two Towers?
Because that is possibly thegreatest movie adaptation video
game of all time.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Does it involve lots of riding of horses across large
fields?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
No, there's almost none of that Like.
It's an action adventure manand you're on the wall at one
point.
I play Legolas.
All the time You're firingarrows.
It's good, good man, it's agreat game it's a great game
good to know 15 years later.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Lady, love the old pathfinders.
He's ready to get out tochoosing the successor.
Oh, this is when they kick himout.
He goes and practices sword andthen the pathfinder goes to
talk to him and like you're,you're, you're cool bro.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, they say something about hey, you got to
face your demons, or something,right, I don't know.
I didn't write that down.
It's the whole movie.
It's the arc of the movie,right there.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
He'd never face any demons, that's true.
Not his demons at least thenext day is the market day
Checks out his lady, he goeshunting.
The small girl sort of followshim and the girl gets menaced
because here come the Vikings,because they're in the forest
and they're riding horses on allthose roads that are through

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the forest.
Yeah, you can't ride horsesthrough the forest, primeval.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
You can't, why not?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
He's up there skinning things, the village
gets attacked.
There's one shot where he'slooking down because he hears
things going on and we see thethree boats in the ocean In the
distance.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, I was like that's a good shot.
Why doesn't he?
Oh, he sees them.
Oh, he does see them.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, no, you mean, why didn't he see him earlier?
Yeah, because he's going back.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
The village is here right, and then there's water
and he is somehow on the otherside.
He went a long way, he went sofar away, first of all, and then
, and his tanning station islike in the snow right yeah,
like you would choose to go tothe snow.
This is where I'm gonna do mywork, where it's the coldest.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Let me put my tanning station as far away from the
village as possible, I want tobe 45 minutes to an hour away
minimum.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I need my space.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's where he keeps his playboys.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I'm gonna go have some fun in the woods Pops, I'll
be back.
And then the horn blows at onepoint when they're like, hey,
we're under attack, oh yeah, andhe's still skinning.
But we cut to him and we hearthe horn still, but it takes him
30, 45 seconds to be like oh,is there a horn?

(30:04):
It's just weird, editing I justthere was too much of him not
responding to the horn of danger.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Now, was that them that had they had the horn?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Great question I actually don't know who had the
horn.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I assumed it was the Vikings that had the horn to
tell him that they wereattacking the village.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Hey guy, are you here ?
Where are you Like?
Why would they signal a horn?
Oh ghost, that's what they'resaying I don't know, I don't
know either.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
So he goes down there and in the time they've now
like killed everyone andcrucified some of the diamonds,
Some of them Crucify people.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, well, I'm telling you, he was really far
away, danny.
He was across the ocean,basically.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
He's distraught, he finds his mom and is sad.
Wouldn't you really figure outwho had lived and who had not
lived?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
What In the village?

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, because you're going to know how many people
there are, yeah, and you'regoing to be like, oh man, this,
some people.
You're going to figure out ifpeople escaped or not right, for
sure, yeah, 100%, becauseyou're going to want to know if
they were taken as slaves.
You're going to want to know.
You're gonna want to know andthey don't tell us any of that.
You know he's like he shouldhave figured out a path.

(31:24):
Yeah, he didn't even react asif or look for his girlfriend's
body well, he's never really thepathfinder no, no, no, that
doesn't matter, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying he's not verygood at the job if, if you know,
if everybody on my block waskilled, I would go through all
the bodies to figure out who Imight still have out there to

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help me well, listen, I don'twant to be rude, but if my whole
block was killed, I would justbe like, okay, we gotta go,
let's just get out.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't give a shit, let's get out of here.
What if?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
you weren't with your wife, would you look for your
wife's body?

Speaker 1 (31:59):
oh, yeah, yeah, of course.
Yeah, I would do that.
There it is, first the cat,then the wife, exactly, you'd
look for your cat and your wife.
The only two important thingsin your life 100% and then I
would get in the car and wewould leave.
I wouldn't care, Even ifsomeone was like if I heard a
little help got to get out ofhere, it could be a trap.
We got to go.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Oh Jesus.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I lost page two of my notes.
Oh no, that's half the movie.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
They didn't kill the chief.
They toy with the chief.
He runs into the middle ofeveryone while they're toying
with the chief and then theykill the chief Kill the chief.
Yeah, because they're doing hima favor.
They were going to be mean tohim, but they're like since
you're the chief, give him anhonorable death.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
We're going to kill you so dumb, real dumb.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
They give Ghost a sword and he immediately blinds
the number two guy.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
And they're so mad that he did it.
You gave him a weapon.
What did you think was going tohappen?
Idiots, this is what youdeserve.
This is karma.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Instant karma.
Same thing that happened inConan.
Conan, he bit off a guy's nose.
This one, he blinds a guy.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, conan, again another lesson learned, because
the nose A comes back later andhe gets to dig his finger into
that nose, which is a greatmoment.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
That was a funny scene.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Funny scene.
But you know too, it's just waycooler to do a nose than an eye
.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, but you get to do the stitching up of the eye
later.
It's like whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Sure, I don't care about that.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
He runs away.
They pursue him with dogs thatare on giant chains.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Tony talk to me about dogs and pursuits.
Well, I've never done a pursuitwith a dog, but I wouldn't keep
it on a chain because I wouldbe slowing it down big time,
unless I'm sprinting.
I'm not sprinting.
I wouldn't keep it on a chainbecause the dog's going to go
faster than me, and then Ifollow the dog, I think.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Have you ever watched the TV show show cops or any
other cop show?
No, no I don't like I don'tlike.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
They make me sad oh, they are sad.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, they have the canine unit on there and they
bring in the canine unit to findpeople and this is what they
say I'm sending the dog in.
Oh yeah, for sure, you're sureYou're going to get bit.
Yeah, the most hardenedcriminals in the world.
When the dog gets them andbites them, they become
screaming piles of fear andterror, because those jaws they

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clamp on.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
You cannot get it off , you can't shake that.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
You don't beat the dog Every time.
I've ever seen it.
And these people sometimes haveguns and stuff the dog, just
that dog's so fast though.
You can't hit that fast.
You're just.
He is on your ass.
You're on the ground.
They let these dogs go.
The movie ends.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
You can't give them dogs.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
And then the dogs disappear.
We never see the dogs againafter these seeds.
Well, here's the difference.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
We have hundreds of years question mark.
When is this, douglas we?
Have a lot of years ofknowledge of teaching dogs, so
we're just better dog trainers.
The Vikings, they didn't knowwhat they were doing.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I saw those dogs.
Those dogs were ready, thosedogs were ready to hunt, those
dogs were going.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Those dogs were ready to hunt.
Those dogs were going todestroy him.
They're going to destroysomething.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Maybe they went for a pheasant, Maybe they're like ah
lunch, he goes into the swamprises out of the swamp kills a
guy, steals a horse, goes intothe storm and that shot's from
the trailer, by the way, andthat's in my opinion, it's the
coolest shot of the whole movie.
It's just him getting out ofthe water, his hair flip and
then SWORD.
It's almost like it was stolendirectly from Predator.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's not exactly like Predator, because in Predator
they don't have long hair thereit is no long hair Steals.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
a horse goes to the snow, fights a guy on the horse
gets to his hut, gets all of hisstuff and then they are there
and then the movie turns intoWillow you love Willow.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Be honest, start telling the truth, dan.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I mean, you know, when we make the giant chart of
best of the worst and worst ofthe worst Willow's, are we going
to do a full ranking someday?
We could, but then we'd have toprobably watch some of the
movies, because we'd both belike what is this?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's been four years, right?
I mean, I don't know anything.
Love Guru very low, Great movieWillow probably very high.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Because I mean your complaints about Willow are
semantical, they're just choices.
You know, it's like Exactlyyeah, 100%, 100%.
It's silly and dopey, but youknow, at least it's entertaining
, it sure is.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Sure is so.
Do you want to talk about?
So what happens here?
Yeah, I don't even know whatyou're talking about.
What happens here?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Well, they're on topeds.
Oh that's right.
And then we slide down themountain fighting For a long
time and this is you know.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
usually you would play something like this for
laughs, not like oh it's jokey,but you'd have some sort of like
this is a little silly, butwe're having fun with it.
This is.
We take a very.
This shield sledding is veryserious stuff, very controlled,
like he's done this every day ofhis life, since he's like nine
years old.
He's been slight, although he'snever seen a shield before well,

(37:28):
that's true, he's never seen ashield because they never got
the stuff from from the place.
But you know there's not a lotto do on a mountain, dan, so he
probably slid down a bunch ofthem uh, this is where we do the
Conan thing of having peoplefly into very hard objects it
was funnier in Conan.
Yeah, everything's funnier inConan.
I don't know.
I'm not sure what the problemwas, but he figured it out, did

(37:51):
it in Conan.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
He finally goes off a cliff into a pond or lake and
then sort of gets away, but he'sbeen injured.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, what, he gets shot with an arrow from behind
or something.
He gets shot with an arrow, yes.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
He's been stuck with an arrow oh, just one arrow.
They stitch up the eye guy andthen the big boss kills one of
them just to show how crazy andangry he is.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Love that.
My favorite bad guy move.
Is that your favorite?
This is my most hated bad guymove it doesn't make a decision
on why he's evil.
And then do that.
Don't just do the blanket like,ah, just let him kill somebody,
we'll get it.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
They understand now yeah, maybe you can just stomp
on his foot or like you know.
So shut his anus.
You know that's the way youwant to kill somebody.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
One of my favorite show how Crazy you Are is Lethal
Weapon where, where he goeslike this.
First of all, not Mel Gibson,because he's the good guy in
that movie.
No, when Gary Busey, when thebad guy's like Joshua come here
and then he does the lighter onBusey's arm and he just doesn't

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move and you're like, holy shit,this guy is nuts.
That's a cool way to do it.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Well, more importantly, you've proven two
things right.
You've proven your boss, badguy, doesn't fucking care about
the people.
But he also knows who the rightpeople are to employ 100%, and
then Busey's like nothing'sgoing.
But he also knows who the rightpeople are to employ 100%, and
then Busey's like nothing'sgoing.
To faze me.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'm going to get the job done, and that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
You've got to figure out those little things where
it's like, oh yeah, I've neverseen this in a movie.
No one's seen that they do thatin that movie.
You're like well okay, theymade that shit up.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, good for you, good for you, I love it.
Boom, boom, boom.
So he kills the guy and thenhe's all like we got to go find
that guy because he's going tolead us to the next village.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, why do you need ?

Speaker 2 (39:51):
this, you know like if there's nobody.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
No, why would Carl urban go to the next village?
He doesn't know?
He's going to be tracked Likethat's.
That's one, oh one, I don'tknow.
It's just felt weird.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
And the other thing do you really think Vikings are
like the greatest trackingnation ever?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
It sounds like they are so.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I don't really know.
I mean they like they are.
So I don't really know.
I mean they, they, they saythey, they, they.
They show us things that wantus, want to make us believe that
they are, but it's like I donot buy that no, it doesn't
really make a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
And if they because then especially like they're
totally lost then and later inthe movie and they're terrible
at going through wilderness.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
And if they could track Carl Urban or Ghost, why
can't they just track the 15, 25people that survived?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
That ran to the next one.
Yeah, no great question, it'salways a lot easier to follow a
bunch of people than it is tofollow one dude.
One dude who could just likehere we have one set of
footprints, here we have 34 setof footprints.
Where should we go, guys?
I don't know Go on set offootprints.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Ah, where should we go, guys?
I don't know.
No one.
Vikings are on the trail.
Oh, okay, on the trail.
So we find the people thatescaped are his girlfriend, his
girlfriend's brother and thePathfinder.
They go to this cave.
Here comes Carl Urban.
He falls down because he's beeninjured, and boom, here comes a
bear.
The falls down because he'sbeen injured and boom, here

(41:21):
comes a bear.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
The bear goes like this Now, did the bear follow
Carl Urban?
I have no idea, because of theblood, like a shark.
Are bears attracted to blood?
Oh, I'm sure bears can smellblood.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
I think it is because in Anchorman, I believe, they
talk about how the bear cansmell for menstruation, if you
remember that scene.
So yeah, no, so the bear musthave followed Carl because of
the blood scent.
Thank you, anchorman, forgetting some very vital
information in my life, theplace where you go to Sony gets
all of his information.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
90s comedies.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Where else can you go ?
Wealth of knowledge.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
So Pathfinder is like okay, back off, bros, I'm going
to take care of the bear.
He's like hey, bear, I'm goingto walk away from you like I
don't even know you exist,Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
At the last second, as the bearcharges in, he turns, sets his
spear, spears the bear.
Yeah, same thing happened in300.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Was it a bear?
I think it was like a lion orsomething, a wolf at the
beginning of the movie when he'slearning to be a Spartan as a
kid.
Yeah Well, I mean, there's onlyone way to kill animals.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Set, spear and spear them up.
Lay down and let it run intoyou.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
I mean that's classic animal behavior, Because
animals are pretty stupid.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
That's why we won?
Because they're a bunch ofdum-dums.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, food chain baby .

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Now here's a question for you.
Yeah, I was watching this videoonline and this woman was on
this road and this little catcomes up to her and the cat's
like meow, meow, give me a home,meow.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Sure yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I wonder if cats are figuring that out and mother
cats are like, okay, I'm goingto leave these babies here.
They will go up to people andcry and then they will get
perfect homes for the rest oftheir existences.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Well, here's what I will tell you this is here's a
little personal anecdote herewhen I adopted my cat, major tom
, this was about 12 years ago Iwent to uh I don't know pets,
pets mart.
One of those places just haslike adoption rings, and I was
walking and I was walkingthrough and I love just looking
at the animals you know andmeeting and greeting, and there
was this one, tom, and he likewas following me, like with his

(43:44):
eyes the whole way, and I waslike, oh, that's interesting,
let me, can I hold this littleguy?
And I wasn't in the market fora cat and he, we took him out
and he jumped into my arms, likehe jumped up into my arms and
was like licking my face and Iwas like, okay, I guess I'm
adopting this guy.
And then I brought him home andhe was the biggest asshole for

(44:05):
the next month of his life and Iwas like I think I need to
return this cat.
This cat fooled me into bringinghim home, pretending he was
like a sweet, cuddly little boyand he's in fact a monster.
And like I called my wifebecause she was long, this is
the time and I was like crying.
I was like I think I have tobring him back.
I don't know what to do so.
Yeah, I know, I think they, Ithink they figured it all out,

(44:27):
dan, and they're they'remanipulating all of us they know
what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Um, okay, boom, boom, boom, set spear.
Vikings are on the trail.
They have a big party in thecave.
Yeah, as you do, they use magicto heal the ghost.
They take the arrow out.
My favorite part of it is theytake the air out and then they
have a pot of water.
They tossed the arrowhead intothe water and we get that

(44:54):
classic plink, which is verysimilar to what happens when you
pull out.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
You know you're if you're pulling slugs out of a
person and then you put them inthe blitz.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
I was like for sure why would they throw that in the
pot?

Speaker 1 (45:07):
like that, make the blink because it's familiar, you
know like.
You're like oh yeah, I've seenthis before, I've seen this they
take a bullet out of a guysounds the same, I get it.
Arrowhead bullets the same ideaidea.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
They blow smoke on him and then he wakes up.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
And that's a good thing.
Right the smoke?
I didn't understand.
It's just incense Stoned maybeI don't know hey, nothing wrong
with that.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
And then the brother of Starfire's like we're gonna
fight them, Not that he knowsanything about what's happening,
but he's like we're gonna fightthem, Not that he knows
anything about what's happening,but he's like we're gonna fight
them.
And then Carl Urban's like no,They've got armor and swords.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Just like this one and they're like what is this
thing?
Yeah, even though he's justcarrying it all the time, as far
as I can tell.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
And then he's like you should run, and then he
bails.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
And I'm like is he leaving what's?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
happening we don't know.
And then it turns out that theyare going to run, and then
Pathfinder's like you know,we're going to run, but we're
not going to go up to that onepass up there, because that's
where the avalanche happens.
And I'm like, oh, they're goingto avalanche happens.

(46:20):
And I'm like, oh, they're gonnaavalanche excellent yeah, it
wasn't that excellent, just youknow.
Spoiler alert well, let me askyou a question, tony, okay, yeah
, did you know instantaneouslythat that's how they're gonna
defeat them with avalanche?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
no, I'm not that smart.
It wasn't until he was like,hey, we, we're going to go onto
this mountain.
I was like, oh, I see wherewe're going.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Usually I'm oblivious to things, but this time I was
like well, I guess we're goingto avalanche them.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I guess that's how we're going to solve this little
Viking problem.
Yeah, I can't wait to talkabout the avalanche.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
And of course he's had an arrow in him.
Couldn't function.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Now he's had an arrow in him couldn't function.
Now he's like I'm at 110%.
Well, yeah, the arrow's out.
Dan, I don't know if you knowhow arrows work, but once
they're out of your body, it'sfine.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, at some point we'll have to talk about the
trauma of having surgery, whenyou lay there for days and are
like please kill me.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, I've had.
I mean, well, I guess what'stalking about right now.
I've had knee surgery, justlike the arthroscopic where they
just put in two tiny tinylittle holes and I was out for
like two weeks.
I was like I can't move my leg.
Guys, I can't do it.
So I I can only imagine havingsomething like this big inside
of me would fuck me up.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
My mom had to have, I think, knee surgery and then
she, they had like this terribleinside of me would fuck me up.
My mom had to have, I think,knee surgery and then they had
this terrible torture machinethat she had to use a couple
times a day.
That would be like me, me, meme just to make sure she you
know, and each time she'dincrease the range.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
I mean you got to move that shit, Otherwise it
swells up yeah.
We have great new inventionslike the I don't even know what
it's called, but like theelectrode machine, that's what I
call it they put patches aroundyour kneecap on the muscles,
and then it just flexes yourmuscles and instead of working
out like that helps thebeginning of rebuilding your
atrophied muscles, which isincredible, and then it makes

(48:14):
going into PT a little biteasier.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Oh well, there you go .
That's cool.
Okay, set up the idea for theavalanche and then Pathfinder's
kind of like you're on a path tovengeance.
Maybe you shouldn't do that andyou're kind of like it sort of
seems like it's important whathe's doing.
It's like buying them time.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yep, he's basically trying to save your entire
village what's left of thevillages so maybe let him do it
and I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
And it's not about vengeance, it's about protecting
these people.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
They started it?
Man, he wasn't, he didn't gosearching for these guys and
like, started the fight and thenthey came and killed everybody.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
They just started killing people and he's like
well, I guess I should stop themyeah, like if they came on the
boat, killed his family and thenleft and carl's like well, I'm
gonna get in this dinghy and I'mgonna row across the sea and to
their house and kill all them.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
That's a vengeance that's vengeance, this is
nothing he does is vengeance.
No no kind of like batman.
I am vengeance.
No, he's not.
I hate the Batman.
Have we talked about him?
Which I dislike that movie,which one?

Speaker 2 (49:24):
The Batman.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Matt Reeves.
The Batman, robert Pattinson,yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Zoe Kravitz.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Very attractive.
Oh, 100% yeah.
And Penguin, great, right.
You know there's a lot of greatstuff Cinematography,
unbelievable Story, Terrible.
Everyone's like, oh, he'sfinally being a real detective.
He doesn't do shit.
In that movie Alfred solves 90%of those riddles, all those
crimes.
He does barely anything.

(49:50):
And then he's like you're notmy dad.
That's the whole story of theBatman.
It's dumb.
I don't like that movie.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
We watched half of it .

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I, I don't like that movie.
We watched half of it and Inever finished it.
It's beautiful, it is stunning,but you know, as it's not, I
don't like it.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Maybe if he works off of one of our scripts It'll be
better.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Okay, yeah, we'll just DM him.
We'll send that over to him.
For your perusal of the script,that's better than the shit you
have been using.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Okay, he is Vengeance For your perusal a little
script.
That's better than the shit youhave been using.
Okay, here's Vengeance.
He leaves the quiet, onefollows him.
It was this little guy thatdoesn't speak and goes hee, hee,
hee and plays a little flute.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
What's going on with all that?
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
He's not happy about it.
They trudge across.
Somehow our people have gone sofar.
Now they have to trudge backacross this weird trackless
waste of stuff and somehow theVikings are very far behind.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
I think everyone just went in different directions at
one point and nobody knew.
They're all just like oh, we'regoing here, and then everyone's
confused.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
We have some and he's like oh, he gets mad at this
one for following.
Stop following me, Stopfollowing me.
And then he keeps following him.
He's like I guess you'refollowing me, I'll help you.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah, why.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
That's your classic.
You know, at the beginning ofthe movie they go in there like
Rambo, you got to come help us.
And then Rambo's like no, Ilive in this cabin now.
And then in the next scene,rambo comes outside and he's
like okay, I'll go with you,let's do it.
I think in Rambo they actuallyhave a.
They have a turn.

(51:35):
You know, a real movie has aturn.
I see a picture of a childcrying and like, oh, the
children will cry if I don't dothis, I better save these
children.
Yeah, sure, this one there'slike none of that.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
It just feels like he's like I don't care, I don't
care about anything, you'regoing to die anyhow, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
You've never seen Seven Samurai, have you?

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Negative no.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
In Seven Samurai, they go to the village.
Negative no In Seven Samuraithey go to the village.
They've got the bandits attackthe little town, little farmer,
town Farmers go to the big cityto recruit some samurai to come
back and protect their town fromthe bandits.
Because the bandits come likeonce a year.
Classic bandit behavior theypick up the six samurai and then

(52:17):
the seventh one is ToshiroMifune, who wants to prove
himself and he follows them andthey throw rocks at him and try
and get him to leave, but at acertain point the wise guy
that's in charge is like heproves himself by being
persistent.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Persistent.
Yeah, that's great, makes a lotof sense.
You know what?
Don't tell me.
I don't want to be spoiled onthis movie that came out 50
million years ago.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
The people that survive is Toshiro Mifune
survives, oh great.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Good for you, guy.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Interestingly, the big boss guy, the main smart
samurai, survives and then oneof his other guys.
The other four die.
But how interesting to have.
You know, we know Pathfinder'sgoing to die right Sure.
Sure, if you set up a thingwhere we do not know what's
going to happen, it's a tentimes better movie Automatically

(53:10):
.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I understand what you're saying
there.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Um, so they're going to the canyon where the past
converged, the Vikings somehowtraveling along all these
magical roads that the NativeAmericans have built so that
they have proper ways to gettheir horses.
Now's the time we're going totalk about.
What do they eat?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Snow.
Is that?
I don't know.
I've eaten snow before.
It's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Tonyony have you ever worn armor?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
uh oh, are you talking about the rain right now
?
Because I was thinking aboutthis the whole time is, you
don't want to wear armor in rain.
You mean that would suck?
Isn't their armor stainlesssteel?
You're not anymore.
You don't know.
It's rusted to shit.
First of all, and second of all, you're getting water trapped
everywhere in there, like yourhelmet's got to be so hard to
wear with all the water comingthrough.

(54:05):
Terrible, terrible.
I don't, I would never want todo it.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
A lot of it's terrible these people travel for
miles and days and weeks andyears and don't ever get out of
the never take their armor off.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
You're like you've got to be kidding me, that is
not how armor works.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
You do not travel everywhere in your full armor.
It's impossible.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Let me tell you something.
Sometimes I'll have an auditionand I'll have to put on jeans
so that I look professional.
The entire time that I'm atthis audition, all I'm thinking
about is getting home and takingthe stupid jeans off so I can
be comfortable again.
If I had to wear armor I wouldbe so mad all the time.

(54:47):
I would be like God.
I can't wait to get back to myhut and just disrobe.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
And this is Tony.
He's got a work ethic.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Do I wear the jeans?
I wear the jeans.
My legs are sweating.
They can't breathe.
It's a war.
I hate pants.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I hate them.
Starfire takes off.
She's like peace out.
I'm going to go find Ghost andhelp him.
Ghost starts prepping.
Starfire gets there in a stormynight.
Oh, this is when the Vikingsblow their horn to let him know
that they're approaching wherehe's setting his hand.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, yeah, we found you, buddy, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
He starts by killing a couple of scouts.
They use a bow.
He's buried in the ground.
I guess that's a copy of theswamp attack already.
Oh sure, he's got pointy traps.
He dresses up as a sexy bunnyto try and entice them.
Wait, wait wait, wait.
I think I missed this part ofthe movie he jumps on a horseman

(55:53):
and then at the other time hedouble swords.
A guy, yeah that's always fun.
Then the Vikings said fire allthe stuff.
But then they used a pit trapon them.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Then they hang a guy and then he does the fake legs
trick I like the fake legs trick.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
That is actually good .
I am confused on the pit.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yeah Whose pit, is it ?
They've dug a pit?
Well, they've dug numerous pits.
When you say they, who is?

Speaker 1 (56:21):
they?
Is it the Vikings?
No, our guys built the pit.
Because, don't our guys jump inthe pit and die themselves at
one point.
No, no, that's later, that'slater.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Okay, he's got two pits.
Okay, he's got the big, big pit, which is just a little ways
out of the thing, but in theother thing he's got this pit,
but he's got the girl and thesilent one are in the pit and
then at the right time they push.
They push up some spikes thatspike the horses right, okay, no
, you're right, I remember that.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Okay, all right, okay , so he does that uh, fake leg
trick.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Guy gets bows, then he goes away and he holds the
head and he's all like, ha ha,ha, I got you.
And then they're going tocharge.
And then he has a pit trapready for them to charge into
and I'll die.
But then a bunch of his peoplejust magically appear and they
charge into his pit.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
And he yells at them no.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
And they all just like we're not listening to you.
You're like, who are these guysand where did they?

Speaker 1 (57:22):
come from.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Why are they charging ?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
I don't understand so many of them die, so many of
them keep running like, wow,that guy in front of me just
fell into a pit.
I wonder what's going to happento me.
I fell into the pit too.
I'm so confused because are youtelling me he dug that whole
pit by himself?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
That's a huge pit.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
He had the silent ones.
Okay, so there's two people.
I watch a lot of Supernaturaland they have to dig up a lot of
graves that are six feet deep,coffin size, and it takes them
all night.
If these guys are building thisgiant pit, that's going to take
them four or five days ofnon-stop digging.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Okay, yes, it's ridiculous yeah, did you ever
see um last of the mohicans?

Speaker 1 (58:06):
yeah, think about that for a long time, but yeah I
mean you think back at last ofthe mohicans.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
You're like, these guys are not powder puffs, these
guys are not gonna fall intointo a pit that their buddies
dug Super weird Super weird.
It just was so dopey.
It was so dopey to watch all ofthem just be so ineffective.
They're like, oh no, I'mfalling in a pit.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
But you know, classic white man, you know sabotaging
his own people.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Sounds about right.
Sounds right, okay.
The hang guy taunts them.
Bodies show up, they all die inthe pit.
Slow motion murder.
He flees, they go to the cave.
They catch his girlfriend.
Almost Then they do catch her,but then the quiet one saves
them by laying down his life.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Ghost laments his life.
Then they climb up the Vikingsthen cook her brother alive, and
then Pathfinder shows up and heshoots.
He shoots the guy before hedies, so he doesn't have to die
being burned up, he just getsshot by an arrow.
Very nice, here's the line Iwrote down.
Okay, have you had enough ofyour vengeance?

(59:22):
This is what Pathfinder says toGhost, which Ghost says I was
doing my vengeance and you fucks, showed up and screwed up my
plan.
I'm very successful atvengeance, you suck.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
I would have been so angry and you ruined it.
I was 50% done with myvengeance and you guys came in
and just Shat all over it.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Like you're getting mad at me, bro.
What the hell you?

Speaker 1 (59:54):
guys, you jumped into a pit of spikes.
That is not my fault, that'snot even the vik spikes.
That is not my fault.
That's not even the Vikings'fault.
That's entirely your fault.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Contact me, give me a call, make a bird noise.
Bird, bird, bird, bird, bird.
I'm like oh my God, my bros arehere, my friends are here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Hey, don't jump in the pit, everybody yeah easy,
easy stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
You know you go back.
You watched the Native AmericanPredator movie right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
No, we never watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
We never watched it.
You're a fool.
You're right about that.
It didn't come out in October.
I like to watch my horrormovies in October.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
It's not a horror movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
It's a Predator movie .
I count.
Those.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Those aren't horror movies, those are science
fiction.
I mean, they're pretty scary.
They're like war movies.
They're battles.
War movies are very scary.
They're not scary.
Those movies are not scary.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Well then, why do they do movies with aliens,
which are definitely horrormovie?
Avp, I mean, mean you can'tcross genres, dan?
I think it's a horror, I'mgonna look it up right now it's
predator considered a horrormovie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
You continue your show.
My name is tony um, okay cookthe brother alive.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
It's action sci-fi.
I don't believe google uh, sothen?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
so now we're at the end.
The three fight onpathfinderfinder and her and
Ghost, and they all get captured.
They tie up Pathfinder.
And then no, they tie upPathfinder.
And then he says to him he'slike you know about the bear,
use the bear's strength againstit.

(01:01:34):
Yeah, is that what he ends updoing Using the bear's strength
against it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
No, he sneak attacks the bear.
So like the lesson should havebeen like you up doing Using the
bear strength against it.
No, he sneak attacks the bear.
The lesson should have beenlike wait till the bear's eating
some honey and then stab it.
No, that should have been.
Just like how Conan doesn'tlearn his lesson, this guy,
pathfinder, also doesn't learnhis lesson.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Ghost doesn't learn his lesson.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Sorry, that's what I meant by Pathfinder Ghost.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Well, the way you defeat them is what do you know
more than them?
You know the land right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Sure, that's what he knows more than them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
He knows the land.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Or you could just tell him, like, bring him to the
avalanche bud, just do that,see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
You know the avalanche, get him to the
avalanche.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Avalanche corner.
You know that place.
Bring them there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Okay, so then they tie him to the tree.
And what do they do to him,tony?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Drawn quarter him.
Is that what it's called?

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
That's what it's called Pretty cool.
Another thing I used to want todo, but it was the one where
they you wanted to do that tosomeone, or you wanted to have
that to someone, or you wantedto have that done.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
No, yes me, I don't want to do it.
I don't want to do it tosomebody else and I don't want
to die from it.
I need someone to be verycareful about it.
But I just feel like it wouldbe a really nice decompression
tool, you know.
So I'm like like this, and thehorses just pull that spine.
I'm 300 pounds.
Damn, my spine is so compressed.
If I could just, you know,stretch that out like a slinky,

(01:03:02):
I think I'd be 6'3", 6'4".

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
It'd be pretty cool just saying drawn and quartered,
that's I've always wanted totry that, but not to death.
You know what I mean?
Just a little, so I'm thinkingin the uncut version they
probably show us more of himbeing, I would hope so because I
was really.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
It's rated r and I was waiting for him to just torn
limb from limb and it cuts awayand then you just get a little
blood splatter on the face.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Very disappointing they, they did Drawn and Corded
in Furiosa.
They did it very well.
I have not seen it.
Oh, so good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I can't watch that before I watch Mad Max Fury Road
.
You know what I mean and I'mnever going to watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
He's such a weirdo.
Okay, so they cut that out.
Starfire cries and they they'relike tell me where they're at,
she spits at him and they keep,oh, they keep on asking everyone
questions and they're speakingViking and you're like, why is
he?
He's trying to elicit ghosts,speaking back to him in Viking,

(01:04:08):
which he does?

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
and he's all like what, how, why, how, oh cause he
learned and he's all why, what,how, why how?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
oh, because he learned viking.
He's nine years old I'massuming you spoke english when
you were nine years old, maybenot you a normal nine-year-old
price.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Spoke english when they were nine sure, let me ask
you if do you think you could dothird grade math in third grade
sure no, now, 20 years lateryou know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Like great she hasn't spoken that language in 15
years.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
I, I'm just and I know I'm on the other spectrum
side of the spectrum on that butI would never remember that I
took five, five years of spanishthrough high school and college
.
I can't, I, I can't say onething in Spanish.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Yeah, but Viking was his primary language.
Sure, I understand what you'resaying you would still be able
to speak English.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
When do you start speaking English?
Three, four, five?
Sure, someone that has kids letme know.
So I mean he only spoke it fora couple of years.
It's not like he spoke it for30 years and then took a 15 year
break he spoke it for fiveyears 15 years off.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I don't buy it he still speaks it absolutely all
right, I'm convinced of that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
It's not like he's got books on tape to listen to
to remind him how to speak.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
He should have just directed all the questions to
Ghost, then I'd have bought it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I'd have been like oh okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
But he's like directing these Viking questions
.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
To other people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
He's like hey dude, hey Tony, I'm going to kill you
unless you tell me something.
And you're like I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
What's he saying?
I don't understand what he'ssaying.
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Don, I don't know what to do.
Don't want you killing me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Tell me what you need I would love to do what you
want right now.
I just don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Tony takes off his pants.
You're like oh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
God, I mean, I'm putting on sweatshorts
afterwards.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
You know what I mean.
Taking off your jeans becauseyou don't want to be
uncomfortable for five minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
It's tough, what a tough life we lead.
So he says okay.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
And Viking ghost is like okay, I'm going to take you
there, but don't kill the girl.
So then we start on the tripand immediately two of the
Vikings just decide randomlyokay, we're going to throw,
we're going to hurt this girl,we're going to throw the girl
over a dead moose and we'regoing to rape her.
And I'm just like tony, what iswith it, with you picking all

(01:06:34):
these rape movies?

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
you're like oh, I did click flight risk.
You're right, I was.
I thought it was you for asecond.
No, I didn't.
Um, yeah, I got a problem.
I got a real problem, me andmark walmer got problems.
Man, that movie was so wildokay.
I'd rather watch Pathfinderagain than watch that movie you
texted me, by the way, aboutFlight Risk Plan whatever the

(01:06:58):
fuck that name is that MarkWahlberg improvised a bunch of
those lines which just makes itso much worse.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
He's like where's your mind, mark?
I just got talking about Rapin'Topher.
He's just like you got a purdymouth.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Maybe let's do an exercise of some other
motivations your character couldhave.
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
I just want to stick it rightinto Topher, I just want to put
it in him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
That's the only thing that my guy wants to do.
This is the only way toproperly elicit a reaction out
of a man is tell him they'regoing to get raped.
Stop no, so weird.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
God, I don't want to watch this.
I love it.
I don't know how it happened,Dan I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
What's his name?
Ghost.
They haven't tied him up again,so he just goes over there and
beats the shit out of the twoguys.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Which is totally fair .
It's a deal I said don't hurther.
And here you are trying to hurther a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
They get to the empty village because the people have
left and the Vikings are alllike, oh time to smash stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
That's how you get out of your rage.
You ever been to one of thosebreak rooms, or whatever they're
called, where you just get togo break stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Oh no, have you done that I've always wanted to try
one of those.
I don't think they do thatanymore.
I think that was the thing theydid you think that's done?

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yeah, I think they did that 15 years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
I don't think they do that, Because I'm sure people
will show up and be like you'rewasting all that good stuff that
could be used.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
But I'm using.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
So they rest in the village even though they just
spent like 15 minutes breakingit up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Ghost sees the little girl's doll that she dropped
when they were leaving and hepicks it up and he's all like
aha, puts it in his trench coatand then, as they go a little
further, he does a thing wherehe drops it surreptitiously and
then they're all like you'retaking us the wrong way and he's
all like one of the other guysis like look at this, I found
this doll.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
I found a doll, we're going the right way.
Smart, great stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
So they keep going them.
Then they get to the lake andhe's all like we should go
around the lake and they're alllike lake, we can handle lake
ice.
And they go on the lake andthen it breaks, ice breaks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
I'm a little confused .
Don't Vikings deal with winter?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I feel like they do.
They sort of set up.
The Pathfinder said that wherethese guys come from they don't
have spring like we have spring.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
So the fact that it's half melty is the problem?
Yeah, okay, that's the pitch Idon't know, that's the catch.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
They did the Dan Goodsell line.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
that means you can say I I, but I was confused, but
I guess that's because I'm fromminnesota and then I was like I
, you, can you take one?
Look at that lake and you'relike nope, let's, this ice is
not three to five inches thick,we gotta get out of here.
So you guys know exactly howthick ice is otherwise we're
going through all the timebecause you know you want to go
ice fishing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
People are driving their trucks on the ice but I'm
saying, you guys know when, whenand when and when you can't,
you always just you have to knowhow old.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
You gotta know because you'd be dead.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
How old would you have been?
How old would you have beenwhen you figured out how to?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
know that, who me, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
24 no, like a real, like a real most people like a
real guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Oh yo, you do it young.
Otherwise'm telling you, man,there's a lot of lakes, there's
a lot of ponds.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
You'd be dead.
I'm talking like a normal kid,not a smart kid.
Like a normal kid, when wouldthey know?

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Let me think about my friends.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
All right, Let me go back in time, let me think under
10.
It is one of those things youlearn because it's important.
It comes into play regularly inyour life, even a city boy like
you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
My brother just flooded his own backyard to make
a little ice rink.
Every day they'd go out thereand just be tested a little bit.
They're like, okay, now it'sgood.
A week later it's like, well,we can't go.
Then, you know, a couple dayslater it's like, okay, it's good
again.
You know you just, they wouldknow you, just live with it so
he baits them on the ice.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
A bunch of them die.
He disappears did he bait themon the ice yeah, he was reverse
psychology he totally reversepsychology so like we should go
around and they're're all likeno, we're.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Vikings, let's not do what the guy that's leading us
wants to do.
Okay, idiots.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Well, no, but they actually did do the things
they're supposed to.
Because then they say he's justtrying to lead us that way to
slow us down?

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I know?

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Yeah, I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
I remember it all.
So they did the right lines.
It's just it's too late, You've?
I mean we are 80, 80 minutesinto this 90 minute movie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
So then they go around the ice, and then let's
see, and then we're up in theavalanche zone.
Right, yeah, yeah.
So we're up in the avalanchezone.
Somehow he has convinced themto go on the little ridge.
That's 12 inches wide.
And then one guy falls off, andthen the big boss what is the

(01:12:03):
faithful words?
He tells everybody Tieyourselves together.
Has that ever worked?

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
I was going to ask you the same same question
because it's not the first timeI've seen this maneuver, but I'm
always always confused.
Yeah, because if one guy goesdown, the next guy's gonna go
down ostensibly you, you tieyourself to your partner.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
You know, like when you're, when you're actually
climbing, you might be tied toone person right, and so those
two people.
If that guy makes a mistake,I'm still locked in.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I can save him.
Hopefully, maybe yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
But tying everybody together is just like that, is a
domino effect.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
That you know is going to happen, but I do want
to see and maybe this hashappened, but I want to see the
one guy.
So there's eight people in arow, right, and they're all tied
together, seven of them falloff and it's just one guy just
pulling them all back up.
That'd be a fun scene.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
They tried to do that .
They did that for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
See, all right, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
There's a little bit of it In this movie you're
saying Remember that.
Yeah, there was a point atwhich one guy, there was like
three guys, and then there was afourth guy and he's all like ah
, sure, sure, well, you win some, you lose some.
So Carl has the girl attack himas a distraction and then he

(01:13:24):
takes a piece of leather offthere and starts to act like
he's whipping her.
But instead he's tied a rock tothe leather and then he throws
it, hits the guy in the back ofthe line.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
This is a long ways for him to throw this rock.
He's good.
This is incredible.
You know what would have beennice If we had seen him do that
earlier in the movie.
Maybe one time you know what Imean Just to be like, oh cool,
that's a cool skill that's goingto come in handy later.
Nope, just comes out of nowherehe can do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
He can pick up now it is carl urban I don't need to
ask you this question.
I'm gonna ask you this question.
Okay, yeah, does his the swordthat he have changed hands like
five or six times, and it seemslike it, yeah, yeah, I don't
think it's you.
I, I, I don't know man, I gotconfused uh, she bites off a

(01:14:17):
guy's ear, spits it out.
Enjoyable sure sure and thenpeople are falling and then
there's a tree and then halfnumber one is on one side of the
tree and he's on the other sideof the tree with rope.
But there's also bonus guysdown there who haven't fallen to
their death, but the number twoguy's also not fallen to.
It's just like it's just this,endless and at a certain point

(01:14:40):
he tells her to run and thenshe's like I'm not running, he's
like he gotta run and shefinally runs and then he goes.
I know who I am, and we havethe avalanche which leads to who
I am, who I am, and we have theavalanche which leads to, which
is just all stock footage ofdifferent mountains, as far as I
can tell, because none of theshots look the same.

(01:15:03):
I love it.
And then eventually he ends upfalling down, and then it ends
up the number one bad guy isstill down there and so then
they fight, but he's, fine.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
How far are they falling?

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Hold on a second.
I was a little confused.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Okay, I screwed up, I left out the most important
thing of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Oh, you did At one point they are throwing rocks
down at.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Ghost.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
And I was like, there it is.
That's the completion of thesame movie as Conan, Because in
Conan they rolled rocks down atpeople.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Or bigger rocks.
These are not as big rocks.
Again, another lesson learned,right?
He's like why didn't thoserocks work?
Because they were too small.
I got to get bigger rocks.
Then they're going to workRidiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Eventually, the bad guy's about to get him and Carl
Irvin goes off and does the oldbehind the back stab and stabs
him and then you know, becausehe let him his strength lure him
in or something, yeah, and he'sall like, and so he's like on
the precipice and he's holdinghim by the necklace, which which

(01:16:09):
I assume was Pathfinder'snecklace.
Did he take that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
from Pathfinder?
I guess so, because he gives itto the lady at the end and
they're like ah, pathfinder, sothat must be the Pathfinder
necklace, and he's all like giveme a good sword death.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
and he's all like nope, I'm just gonna cut this
and you're just gonna fall toyour death and you got a bad
death, asshole, aha, aha, yeah,um, there's, then there's even
bigger avalanche.
She goes home, then he alsogets home and then they all

(01:16:42):
touch him because he's now magic, I didn't get that part.
The groping then I wasn't sure Ididn't get it then she and him
have a big hug, and then they,which is weird now that you've
told me that in another cut theyhad sex in the cave, they
should probably kiss, right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
I mean, this is like a reuniting of lovers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
I think it's kind of weird now um he gives her, uh,
pathfinder's necklace, becauseshe's gonna be the pathfinder's
necklace, because she's going tobe the pathfinder.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
And now they all bow to him like he is god I thought
they were bowing to her becauseshe's the pathfinder, but I
guess that's not really like theleader of the claim.
I don't know I don't know Idon't know we we had a
disagreement in my house aboutit too, because I was like,
aren't they doing it to her?
And and naomi was like I don'tthink so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
I think this is a weird moment.
They didn't touch her like thatwhen she returned.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
They touched him.
You can't just touch her body.
That's not okay.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
This is 2007,.
Tony, this was back when youcould do anything.
This was back when you couldrape someone over a moose.
Jeez, louise.
And then it turns out thatshe's going to be the Pathfinder
.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Not that she did any Pathfindery things.
Really, it would have been niceif she had done some
Pathfindery things throughoutthis mission to help complete it
.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Because then it would also make sense why he's giving
it to her.
You know, maybe she saves him,maybe, and then he's like, wow,
you should be the Pathfinder.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
You know, I'm still not one of you, exactly you know
, yeah, maybe she's up there andshe's the Pathfinder and she
starts the avalanche, becauseshe's all like I got to make,
because she knows what's goingon.
She's like I'm sorry, I loveyou, but I have to do avalanche.
And he's all like I love you.
That's so smart, do avalanche.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Do it, do it, do it, and then he's the guy that just
hangs out on the beach and waitsfor more.
Dragon Men to come, more peopleto show up.
I'm like okay, and they neverdo I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
No, we don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
No, the ending was fine.
The ending was fine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
It might be five boats.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
One, three, five, all odd numbers.
They don't do anything else.
They don't believe in evennumbers.
Even numbers are bad luck.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
And that's the movie.
Good job, Tony you always haveto show me up with finding a
worse movie by a director than Ifound.
Oh, I could find a worse movieby that director, I'd just get
something earlier in his careeror much later in his career.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
You're right, let's find something better.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Come on, I'm going to do it every week I was on
Facebook or something and theywere talking about Interstellar
and they were like this moviedoesn't make any sense and it's
terrible, but it's the greatestmovie ever.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
That doesn't make sense, guys Stop.
We'll do some more ChristopherNolan.
Someday We'll get back to it.
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Well, I guess he will put out more movies.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
So we will be doing more Christopher Nolan.
We're definitely not doingOppenheimer, because I'm not
going to sit for nine hours towatch a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
I mean it's probably going to be a good movie with a
bunch of Christopher Nolan stuffthat you're just like.
Maybe you could cut this allout.
Sure, that's what I think thatmovie is Because what's his name
is going to be good CillianMurphy.
Yeah, yeah, he's great.
And what's her name's in there,white Widow?
She's in there, very smallWhite Widow In the Marvel

(01:20:11):
Universe.
Uh, what's her name?
That plays, uh, black widow'ssister?

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
uh, no, it's her name , she's not in there she's in
florence, pew oh, I didn't evenrealize that she was in the
marvel universe.
We, uh, we have fallen off themarvel universe big time you
haven't watched the thunderboltstrailer.
No, and I love Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
What's his?

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
name.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
The guy that plays Red Guardian.
Yeah, yeah, gran Turismo he'sin the ghost movie Hell boy, but
you haven't watched the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
You can't spend two minutes to go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
I would have watched that trailer because I'm against
the Marvel Universe.
I'm not against it.
Every nerdy fanboy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
No, no, no.
I feel like we did it.
We did it for like 20 years.
Guys, let's do something else.
Let's try DC.
Just kidding, it's going to beworse.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
You would watch all the new DC movies, wouldn't you?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
I'm going to Absolutely Well, maybe not all
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Because that's the thing You're a DC stan.
That's what it is You're a stanfor DC.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
That's true, but I also hate Suicide Squad Wait.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Which one?

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
did James Gunn do Suicide Squad?
Yeah, hate Suicide.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Squad Guardians of the Galaxy.
Did you watch the CreatureCommandos?

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
We did.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
We have problems I watched the first one and I was
like yeah, okay no, there wethere.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
We hate a lot of the things that they did there.
He's also in it, by the way,the same guy that I can't
remember his name.
Did you watch the peacemaker tv?
No, no, we never watchedpeacemaker.
Yeah, I don't know what aboutit.
I'm definitely wary.
I love the Superman trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
So just hold now Hope .
What about John Cena's heelturn at the WWE?

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Great stuff, right?
Oh fun, man.
My nephews are getting intowrestling.
Oh, finally, so it's a familyaffair now.
It's great, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Okay, Now we're going to talk about something we like
.
This week.
I caught up on Severance so Iwatched.
Oh yeah, I watched your seasonSix and a half episodes in two
days.
I think that's pretty good.
It's brilliant.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
It is Still good.
Yeah, we haven't watchedanything from the new one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
I would say it's a completely different show, in my
opinion about what it's aboutInteresting.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Cool.
I mean, I remember the firstone.
It was lots of weird stuff andyou were like this is all very
interesting, but this season isreally putting characters
through some really interestingsituations with the concept of
what severance is, and I wasjust like, oh man, this is

(01:23:02):
really interesting.
You're having a good time, kindof like when Lost worked, you
were like these are reallyinteresting characters and I
just want to see where thesecharacters go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
You mean for the full run, when it worked for the
full run every episode.
Yeah, I know what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
I enjoy Alice and JD generally, but she played a
character that someone elseshould have played.
That character, okay, so didthat.
And also we watched Long Legs.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Oh, how's Long Legs.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
It's entertaining.
Okay, it's not like you don'twalk out of it going like oh wow
, this is new stuff we've neverseen before.
You're like well, they wrappedit up, beautiful cinematography.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Just beautiful.
Oh, that'll be worth it.
Great that.
And Nick Cage.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Editing, great production, design, great sound.
You're just like Okay, it'slike you watch Pathfinder.
You're just like everything isa slog.
Every cut is a slog, everyinteraction, every line written
is a slog and you're just like,okay, you know this other movie

(01:24:14):
super interesting it's a movie.
It's a movie.
There's performances, there areall these things that you can
think about and care about.
Well, tony, what do you got forus?

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
well, so this is first of all.
I re-watched dread and I wasgoing to bring that up again
because it's lovely.
What a movie.
Yeah, it's perfect, and it'slike think about Dread, it's
murky.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
You can't see what's going on, but, man, you know
what every character's goingthrough.
You lock them down in thatbuilding.
You're like this is where themovie's going to take place.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
What a great story.
Device right.
It's smart, it's really goodstuff.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
You never worry about .
You know there's the outside,there's the inside.
We know that things are goingto be going on in both and you
know, like this movie, you'relike stupid Pathfinder, where
are they?
How much time has passed?
How much this, how much that Idon't know anything.
You're like.
You're like I know what'shappening I know what the goals

(01:25:14):
are, and it's great yeah, uh, sothat.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
And then we also started, uh, the peacock show
laid and uh, it's, it's, it'sgood, it's good.
It's not great, but we'reenjoying it.
We're gonna finish it.
You know it's good there.
It is, that's it.
That's why I brought two,because I was like I'm not in
love with, with the new thing,but it's, it's good.
We also watched um, that newthe garden society show oh, what

(01:25:42):
is that?
nbc, I know, but it was terrible.
I hated it.
Uh, we're not gonna watch.
We watched the pilot and wewere both like, nah, not for us.
Um, I don't know, it's justweird.
It's just weird.
Show people.
I think people are liking it,so maybe give it a shot, um, but
it's on, it's just on aftersuits, la.
So we're just like let's giveit a shot how was suits la

(01:26:03):
episode two?
you know, dan, it's different,it's we, so let's talk about it.
So the first episode is liketoo much, right, they crammed a
bunch of stuff.
It's like this should be yourseason finale, oh wow.
You know, like that's how muchis going on.
And then the second episode wedrop 80% of it and just focus on

(01:26:24):
, like this, one or twostorylines, which is smart.
But it just is so jarring afterthe first episode to slow down
so much that you're just like,okay, are they going to?
I think they're going to figureit out.
I think I'm excited for episodethree tomorrow and I think it's
going to be good.
I'll keep you posted.
You should just watch the show,dan, because it needs numbers.

(01:26:45):
It's not doing well, oh good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Is Megan Markle on it ?

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
No, thank God.
Have you watched the new meganmarkle show?

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
no, she's got a new show.
What does she do?

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
reality show I think is out.
Oh, she does.
No, I'm not a fan.
Okay, well, maybe she's good atit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
No, I think she's terrible at it, she's okay, I
think she's just putting stuffon plates.
I I'm gonna have to watch anepisode of it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
She's just putting stuff on plates.
I'm going to have to watch anepisode of it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
She's just the plater Okay, great, great stuff.
Okay, well, we need a new movie, we need none of this, yeah,
something fresh 2007.
Well, I'm picking a moviethat's not even out yet.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
How's that going to work, because it comes out on
Friday.
Oh, okay, great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
On Netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Oh jeez, I'm going to have to get Netflix again.
Oh yeah, you don't have.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Netflix.
You're going to have to getNetflix again.
It's tough luck.
You have to watch this movieJust a month.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Starring your favorite, Millie Bobby Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Is this the Chris Pratt, movie?
Oh, no, dan.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
This is the Russo Brothers, the directors of the
most-.
Oh, really the most money yes,because the Russo brothers did
all the I didn't know that.
Avengers movies right, yeah,yeah, I was thinking that last
Avengers movie where they do thetime heist Now is that whole
first of the movie, like themgoing back and meeting Tony
Stark's dad and shit and thenthey go to the future and then

(01:28:19):
they fight thanos.
Is that what happens in thatmovie?
Kind of?
I don't think they go to thefuture, they go to the past.
I mean they go to the pastbecause they have to steal the
the gems before they get, thenyes, yeah, that's what happens
yeah, I think the first half ofthat movie is just really corny
and bad, and then this battle atthe second half I found very
enjoyable sure?

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
well, the first half is a lot of fan service.
You know it happens right, Idon't know, but it's good.
And then, you know, then it'ssad at the end and it's nice.
It's a nice emotional journey.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
So, yeah, so the Russo's brothers have made this,
not the Russo's brothers?
The Russo's Wait, the Russowait.
Yes, the Russo's brothers havemade this movie, electric State,
following on the Gray man,which you haven't seen, which I
did watch.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
I haven't seen and it was.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Okay, and then this is their new thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Electric State.
I'm interested to see MillieBobby Brown do something,
because I did not watch Damsel.
Did you watch Damsel?
That was almost something Ipicked for this show.
Maybe I still will.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
I don't God.
I feel like maybe I watched thefirst few minutes of it and was
thinking about it and then Ijust never got around to it.
I watched the first one, whereshe plays Sherlock Holmes'
sister.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Oh, enola Holmes, Enola Holmes.
Yeah, there you go it was okay,didn't bother me.
Well sure Superman's in it, sothat's great yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Uh, didn't ever get to the second one.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
She's in the King Kong Godzilla movies.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
I don't think she's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
I don't think she's beyond terrible.
Okay, I liked the last two ones.
I really liked.
I found them really enjoyable.
The first, king Kong versusGodzilla.
I think I really enjoyed it.
I haven't seen the new, new one.
And then the Monarch thing withKurt Russell and his kid.
Yeah, I watched some of that.
It was kind of weird.
Sure, but we're going to watchElectric State.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Yeah, let's figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
The critics aren't liking it, so I have high hopes.
Perfect, but maybe it'll begood.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
And we saw the trailer and they make Marky Mark
and the Funky Bunch choke inthe trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
So I'm in.
I read one of the reviews, justa little snippet.
The guy was like never leftonce, didn't even crack a smile
for the entire thing.
So I'm like, oh, that bodes.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
well, that bodes well for something that's supposed
to be a comedy, oh boy, okay.
Well, chris Pratt did.
I guess we'll see Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Pratt used to do comedy on the television.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Yeah, not a show that I ever watched, but I'm sure
people liked it.
I watched him in Everwood,which was not a comedy.
What's Everwood?
It's a teen soap about, uh uh,a dad bringing his two kids
after they lose their mom tolike a place in Colorado that
she really always wanted to live, and it's just about the family

(01:31:10):
drama.
About the kid, it doesn'tmatter, it's a great show.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
I thought you were going to say it was about
erections.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Did I say something close to erection?
That's what I expected you tosay.
It's a show mostly abouterections who gets them, how
long they get them, what they dowith them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
You know, Okay, so we'll be back next week talking
about Electric State, if youlike what we do, because it's
Everwood.
I didn't get your joke.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
I didn't get your joke.
That's funny, great job.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Leave us a comment, give us a thumbs up.
We got a crypto scam comment.
Hey, that's how you know.
You've made it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
Don't click on it, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Really like your thing, but if you need help
purchasing crypto, I'm your guy,I do need help purchasing
crypto.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
I'll look you up, brother.
I need it.
I deleted this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
So we'll be back next week talking about Electric
State.
There it is.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Goodbye everybody.
Hey watch it With Dan and Tony.
Hey watch it With Dan and Tony.
It's like watching yeah.

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