Hate Watching Spaceman: Houston, We Have a Metaphor!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We should probably talk about this movie there's a
lot to talk about.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I don't have a lot to say, tony, you always have a
lot to say, yeah, but usually Idon't sleep through the whole
movie.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome to Hate Watching with Dan and Tony.
I'm Dan, I'm Tony.
On this show we watch a movieEach week.
One of us unless one of us islazy and doesn't do anything one
of us picks a movie and then wewatch the movie.
Then we talk about the movie.
This week I got to pick themovie.
I picked the Netflix moviewhich I guess was released a

(00:46):
little bit in theaters.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Adam Sandler, I didn't do any research A little
bit.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
A little bit Called Spaceman An hour and 48 minutes,
2024.
Maybe this one I was talkingabout this.
I think this movie only hadlike 50 audience reviews.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Oh, that's not very many.
This movie only had like 50audience reviews.
Oh, that's not very many.
I mean, at least the good newsof that is it means it didn't
upset a lot of people, becausepeople weren't, you know,
indignant Like let's go destroythe movie.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, I think it's more that people didn't want to
watch the movie and didn't watchthe movie.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
To be fair, when you said this last last week, I had
never heard of this movie beforein my life.
No, as as a netflix subscriber,not anymore.
Uh, as an adam sandler fan,still to this day, I'd never
heard of this movie.
I don't know.
I've watched, I feel like I'vewatched all of his other netflix
movies and this one just never,never, even saw a trailer,

(01:44):
never heard of it, never thoughtabout it, never, never crossed
my path I love this movie oh,dan, you know why I love this
movie?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
because it's boring as fuck because of how much
torture it did to you everyminute.
I watched this movie, I waslike I could see t Tony rolling
in pain and feeding his life.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
My eyes made so many loops, 360 all night, all night,
just like, oh my God, this isridiculous, oh I'm so important,
oh I'm sending a message, oh,it's a metaphor.
Oh my God, I hate this movie.
Dude, it's a metaphor.
Oh my God, I hate this moviedude.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Oh, you know if you're going to make a movie
that's like a metaphor and is acharacter study and journey.
You got to have an idea aboutwhat it is.
It's interesting because thismovie, spaceman, is based on a
book from 2017 called Spacemanin Bohemia.

(02:50):
First time author, yeah thatmakes sense.
A book that did pretty well andpeople cared about and so I was
like man, I don't want to justread the plot synopsis of the
book, because you know thatnever really helps you.
You know it's just, it'susually too short and you can't
get a.
You know a three page, you knowwhatever that's called.

(03:11):
When they you know when you're,when you're really making a
movie you're supposed to do likethree to five pages.
That's like it's calledsomething.
I don't know what it's calledtreatment, treatment.
So I found this lady that talkedabout the book for 22 minutes.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Wow Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Perfect amount of talking about it.
She talked about the themes,what happened, how interesting a
book.
This is what she said about thebook.
I think I wrote this down, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm glad you wrote it down.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
First thing she said about it this book was about a
suicide mission.
Really, Doesn't that change theentire context?
Yeah, If this movie was asuicide mission.
Wow, now you have a movie.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, I mean it would make more sense.
I mean he's gone for a year andI was like this lady's being
real dramatic for a year he'sbeen gone for six months he
hasn't even been gone.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
No, no, I mean's being real dramatic.
For a year he's been gone, forsix months he hasn't even been
gone.
I mean the whole trip is a year.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, and she is so whiny this whole time I was like
lady, get over it, he's anastronaut guy.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's a year, it's not even that long Six months your
wife if you were gone for sixmonths, she wouldn't even notice
for the first three months.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Three, Six months would pass and I'd come home and
she'd be like wait, aren't yougone?
That was six months ago.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
She'd be so sad.
I thought you were in the guestroom.
I thought you were just havingsome private time in the guest
room.
Weren't you here the whole time?
You haven't even left.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Wait, no, you weren't gone so, okay, no, this that
makes that actually makes a lotmore sense.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
First of all, the reason why he goes to space is
to redeem his name.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
They kind of mentioned that about his dad did
something, and then they werelike and the spider was like, oh
, you want to redeem yourself.
And then he were like and thespider was like, oh, you want to
redeem yourself.
And then he was like, notreally.
And then we moved on with themovie, never mentioned it again
she also said there were way toomany themes not in like a
negative way, but just it just alot going on took her a lot.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
You know, she she like flow, charted out the
themes and she sort of showed it.
She didn't like cut and pasteit so you could see it.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
That's too bad.
That would have been a greatgimmick.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yes, she was just like.
This movie crosses many genresand has many themes.
Sure, cut out the too many andthis movie tries to condense it
down into a weird.
He can't connect with humanbeings because his dad and so he

(05:52):
can.
He only sees you one time andthen he doesn't ever talk to you
again.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, and then he's got to learn to not do that,
even though he doesn't learn tonot do that.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm going to posit a theory.
He doesn't learn anything inthis movie, and I will explain
to you when we get to the partwhere he has learned his lesson.
I'm going to provecategorically that that is false
.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
And I mean that's the thing is.
If you're, if you're adapting abook that has too many, and I
mean that's the thing is, ifyou're adapting a book that has
too many themes, or many, manythemes, you gotta pick one and
you can't.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
And hit it hard.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
You can't change it all.
Yeah, yeah yeah, because itdoesn't seem like you know this
thing is about.
You know a guy that can'tconnect and who saw a spark in
someone his wife and then didn'treally connect, then never got
around to connecting with herbecause of childhood trauma,

(06:55):
sort of yeah, blah, blah, blah,Sort of trauma, blah, blah, blah
, blah, blah and they lost ababy and then that.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
But that he was, it seemed like he was being really
good when they lost the baby andhe was saying all the right
things.
Right, I mean, I get it, but hewasn't there, right.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
So that's a problem.
He was gone there for the otherbaby, wasn't he?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, yeah, he was gone, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
So it's like and then , the spider was like.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
here's a memory of something you were never a part
of, but you've thought about thememory, so it makes sense.
This is a dumb movie.
I didn't like a single minuteof this movie, other than it's
pretty.
It's a good looking movie.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's shot really well .
Yeah, you feel like you're onthat spacecraft.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, which I did not like.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I was not a big fan.
You get claustrophobic of thespaceship.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's not claustrophobic.
I'm just like get me out ofhere.
You know, and I understand thatthat sounds like claustrophobia
, but it's not.
I don't.
I don't get claustrophobic.
I can be in tiny spaces, butI'm just like I don't want to be
.
This isn't fun.
I was like I want to dosomething and we didn't do a
whole lot and then there was alot of spinning, because he's
not in gravity and I get verysick very easily.

(08:01):
There was one shot where it'sjust him like spinning, spinning
like this for two minutes Withwater spewing out.
Or alcohol, something, there'sdroplets of something and I was
like this is too much, I don'tneed this at all.
I'm getting a little nauseous.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
That shot was kind of like gratuitous.
You were like oh, sure.
I mean, I have to assume theydid they, you know, because they
do these things by flying youin a plane.
Right then, the plane drops.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So I I looked it up.
The way that they did this ishe was in a harness and then
they added effects and took awaythe harness.
Basically, that was from myunderstanding I read, and that
was the majority of thepractical effects to it whoever
made this, whoever did all thatpart of it?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Academy.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Award.
Super good, yeah, yes, too bad.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
It's wasted in such a shit movie you know Only once
or twice, when he'd be sort ofsitting there, you'd be like,
okay, this is not floating.
They're not doing any floating,but when they did the floating
it was flawless.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
And I also want to say Adam did a good job of like
gently moving.
So he was never, not never, butfor the most part, even when he
was like still, there was likea feeling of ethereal you know
what I mean, like he was justkind of floating.
It was really nicely done.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Then there's his accent.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Is there.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Well, I mean, there was at times.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's true.
That's true.
Every now and then they werelike oh, do you remember that
you're Czech and he's?
Like oh sorry.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'll do it, I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
This will be a Czech take.
This is the one.
This is the one.
Use this one.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
And I mean, you know, I get it, but he's not a method
actor, he's not a theater guy,he's not a disappear into the
role kind of guy.
I mean I thought, he did a goodjob of the role.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, For sure.
But the accent at times woulddrift in and you'd be like, oh
no.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Does he need to be?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
checked.
Well, that's the whole thing,is the in the book we set up
that this cloud has appeared,there's, so there's a space
cloud out there that he is goingto meet to analyze and that is,
and in the book it's towardsthe sun, by venus, I think, and

(10:21):
it's a suicide mission to go,and the Czech Republic does it
to sort of, you know, say hey,we're the Czech Republic and
sort of prove some autonomy tothemselves and pride, and he
goes on it as a suicide mission.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Sure and so, but his motivation is to redeem his
family name.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Redeem his family name because his dad was a guy
who worked with the communistsand he informed on his neighbors
and then eventually was killed.
And so then you know, as a kid,Adam Sandler's character, Jakob
, grew up with that shame.
Okay, you know, set this up.

(11:08):
You don't need us to figure itout over six and a half hours
100%.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
It was an interesting moment where he was like my
father was a good man who didterrible things or something,
and I was like it feels likehe's already kind of at peace
with it.
You know what I mean, becausehe this is like he's a good man.
He did some bad things but overI was good.
That's like as bad, as healthyas you can look at that
situation.
No, so I didn't feel like hewould really needed to grow in

(11:34):
that area.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Nope, that was and it didn't seem like those I it
didn't seem like those were thewounds.
I never figured out what thewounds were we don't know the
wounds.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
We I never figured out what the wounds were.
We don't know the wounds.
We also don't really know themotivation, other than, like in
this movie.
To me he's just an astronautdoing astronaut things, because
it's just a year-long missionNot even that long and he's
going to come home and be a heroand be a national hero.
And the wife's like man, youare a piece of shit.
And be a national hero, and thewife's like man, you are a
piece of shit.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Okay, let's talk about the movie.
We start with a sort of dreamsequence, which we continue on
much later in the movie, which,of course, by then we'd pretty
much forgotten about it.
He's in a spacesuit walkingdown a river.
I still forgot about it.
Walking down a river, oh, rightyeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Walking down a river.
Oh right yeah, yeah, yeah, Isthis?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
a dream?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, because I guess it has something to do with the
opera the Rasulca.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, the opera's running.
I wrote terrible classicalmusic, terrible classical music.
I hate classical music.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Are you not an opera fan?
You don't like it?
Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Thumbs down.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I've been to the opera one time in my life.
We visited DC my senior year ofhigh school for a class trip and
we went and did an opera andyou have to read I don't know if
it's the same now, this was awhile ago but you have to read
the subtitles on a little TVscreen while they're singing,
because they're singing inItalian or whatever, and I was

(13:04):
like this is the worstexperience of my life.
It's subtitles in live theater.
That's like my least favoritething in the world.
So I've had a very anti-operaoutlook since then, but
musically I think it's quitebeautiful there it is you like
it.
It's your favorite thing in theworld.
I would listen to it.
I just don't care what they'resaying, so I don't need the

(13:25):
story.
Just give me some very you know, some vibrato and some high
tones.
I'll be good, I'm good, thereit is.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
So he has that weird dream.
Then we, we set up, he's on thespacecraft by himself, he's
talking to the, he's talking tothe um mission control, control,
and they have him go and-.
Kuthrapali, what.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's Rajesh Kuthrapali, the character from
the Big Bang Theory.
That's who he talks to throughthe whole movie.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
That's the Big Bang Theory, dude.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, that's the guy from Big Bang Theory, Isn't he
great?
He's good in this.
I was really impressed.
Yeah, he's good Very verybelievable as a human being,
being, which is not, you know,big Bang, so I thought that was,
that was great, good for him.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
I mean, like I said, adam Sandler, if you just skip
the accent he played it great,100%, yeah, yeah no, he's, I
mean yeah, listen.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Adam Sandler can act, he can act.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
He's a good actor, he can't choose movies, I guess,
but he can act.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I mean this movie.
It like it seems like it couldwork, but it becomes so droney
and draggy and doesn't make areal point.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
You know it's like you gotta make it.
Don't tell them that, Cause I Ibelieve that they think they're
making some great points.
Oh yeah, I think this is themost, one of the most
self-indulgent movies we'vewatched together.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh yeah, oh God, yes, they are in love with their
words and they're in love withtheir choices.
What do you?

Speaker 2 (14:52):
call it Self-flating, is that?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
how you say it Self-flating.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I say Self-flatio.
Okay, so he talks back to Earth.
There's the president ofCzechoslovakia, played by what's
her name, isabella.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Rossellini.
Rossellini From Friends fame.
Don't think so.
You don't remember that episodeof Friends.
Let me break this down to you,because this is way better than
the movie that we're talkingabout?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
No, we're not talking about this.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
So there's an episode where they're making their
celebrity lists five people thatyou're allowed to sleep with if
you ever meet them.
And he was going to putIsabella Russellini on his list
Ross was and then someone talkshim out of it.
And then he meets her at thecoffee shop and she's like, well
, let me see the list.
And then she's not on the list.
It's a great scene, man.

(15:43):
You should watch friends moreno, never, I think.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I think I watched like the first and maybe second
season and then it was oh, youdon't like friends, it was okay.
I mean it's fine, it's, it'sthe best show ever made you know
, I sat down and I watched thefirst 12 minutes 13 minutes of,
uh, nathan Lane's new show ohyeah, mid-century Modern,
because you talked about it.
He's great, you watch it andyou're just like he can get

(16:14):
everything out of every line.
Every line you give him, he'slike I'm getting 100%.
The other guy was good, theyoung guy was oh, he's bad.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Oh my yeah, matt Bomber the handsome one was good
.
The young guy was oh, he's bad.
Oh my yeah, matt bomber the thehandsome one.
Who is that guy?
So he's from, uh, he's from, ausa show.
In the vein of psych it'scalled suits.
Oh he's not suits sorry, notsuits white collar, my mistake,
everybody.
Uh, he was a show called whitecollar um and I don't like that
show very much and he's notgreat in that show.
And then when he was in thisshow I was like maybe this is

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his avenue, because he's likethis really great guy.
Everyone, everyone inhollywood's like he's the nicest
guy in the world, everybodyloves him, that works him and I
just I'm rooting for him sobadly.
And then we watched.
We watched the show he is, he'sbad.
He's not even.
He's not even like in thatrealm where it's like I mean
he's fine, he show he's bad.
He's not even in that realmwhere it's like I mean he's fine
, he's bad, he's bad.
He can't land a line.

(17:10):
He's got no comic time, he'spretty sure.
But woof dude, it's brutal,it's rough, it's very rough yeah
.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Oh well, yeah, because the other guy, nathan
Lane's unbelievable Nathan Lane,unbelievable Other dude, good,
matt Bomber is just like MattBomber.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
He's so bad, but Nathan Lane was worth me
watching all 10 episodes.
He is a treasure.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, but yeah, they got to the here's where we're
going to embarrass the lead partof the show, and then I was
like I'm out.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
You hate that, don't need to do that.
Okay, need to do that, okay, sohe's out there.
He's uh been going for 189 days.
Uh, here's the big cloud.
He's gonna get the thing we got.
We set up the time in one week.
He's gonna be there, so we gotone week to run the movie
perfect, um.
And this little girl's all likeuh.

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He talks to him and says you'rethe loneliest man in the world.
Well, he's not in the world,he's off the lump, but whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
That would have been a funny retort.
That's what Adam should havesaid.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's what the lady talking about the book also said
.
She's like it's comedic attimes.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Wasn't this one?
No, the book.
Yeah, there's some comedy inthere.
And then we decided to make amovie with Adam Sandler and
remove all semblance of comedy.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Well, that's a choice , huh.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh, boy Because that's what the movie's about is
, you're the loneliest man inthe world.
He's like no, no, I'm notSubtext, I am completely the
loneliest man in the world.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
You're so right, little girl.
You see me and okay, you're soright.
You're so right, little girl.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
You see me and okay.
Well, if that's your premise,he's the loneliest man in the
world.
We have to really see that inhis relationship with his wife,
right?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Or the spider, or at all.
He doesn't seem.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I don't know, he just seems kind of morose, right.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, yeah, he's just kind of like I'm so bored, I'm
so bummed, I don't want to dothis anymore.
He doesn't feel like where I.
I need some sort of humanconnection.
He should be trying to talk tokuthr pauli more, you know,
trying to build a relationship,and kuthr paul is just doing his
job and he's like I, I gotta go, man, I have a job to do.
Get, get back to work, youpiece of shit.

(19:22):
You lazy cosmonaut.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Uh, I don't know man uh, and then we talk about his
wife lenka.
He has a special speed of lightphone which is different than
the way they communicate here,so they has like two different
ways.
She has a special like phonebooth in her house, you know,
because of course if you'rereally that far out there's a
big lag right and so they don'twant to have that lag.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, it's not even that bad anymore.
We did an interview with theastronauts that were up I don't
know a couple months ago orwhatever, and it's there, but
it's not.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, but they're not out by Jupiter.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's true.
They're not as far they shouldbe, though That'd be cool we it
should be, though That'd be coolwe should get there.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
It would be minutes long.
I believe.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, but again, minutes isn't that bad.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, you would probably just leave a thing, and
then the person would it'd belike that and once again, that
would set up his communicationwith the wife and make it really
interesting, right?
Sure, if he was having tocompose a thing of a certain
size and then throw that ball toher and then wait.
And then wait.
That's very much moreinteresting, because waiting is
a thing that can be incrediblypainful to the human being and

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we never even.
You know he's kind of waitingfor her call, sort of.
But then they're like, hey,she's kind of this.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Sort of, but more.
He's just like hey guys, herphone's not working, I think,
because she definitely wouldcall me back.
And she's not calling me back,Can you check in on her?
I saw the cone yeah.
Sweet little baby wearing alittle cone.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Don't act like that's fun Okay.
Then we set up this weird thingwhere he has to do like ad runs
for like products that help payfor the trip which is one of
the only ideas I like what?
Uh-oh, uh-oh, we cut out for asecond.

(21:20):
Did I lose you, dan?
I'm still here.
I'm still here, I'm still hereI'm still here.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm still here too okay.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
So they set up this thing where he has to do ad runs
for these products becausethat's how they paid for the
trip.
They do it like three times andit never really adds up to
anything.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
No, and I'm I'm bummed because I actually love
this idea.
I think this is something thatwould be really fun to play with
.
Is, you know, the loneliest manon earth having to hawk
products while he's hating hislife Like I know?
That's a very interestingpremise that we don't, we don't
care about.
Do they do that in the book?

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I have to assume they do and it's probably fun in the
book because that would bereally interesting to have him
have to.
Okay, do the face.
We got to do a little makeup.
We got to get you in the goodlight.
Oh yeah, we don't want that,but all the mess that's behind
you there, okay, go, you canjust make that like what this

(22:26):
guy's going through and he's alllike if he was on a suicide
mission and he was having to doad runs ad bits.
That's heavy, that's heavierthan anything in this whole
movie.
Yeah, right Kids.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, I may not be back.
No, that would be dark.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
You get to be back on Earth and you should be taking
care of your teeth.
I don't have to take care of myteeth because I don't know if
I'm going to live.
This is interesting.
That would be dark.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I like it.
That would be dark.
I like it, that would be dark.
Okay, do you think that in thebook?
Not to spoil the ending, but Iam very curious.
Do you think he gets rescued inthe book or do you think he
dies in the book?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I will tell should I tell you exactly what happens in
the book I want you to tell meexactly verbatim what happens in
the book there is no, so inthis movie.
Okay, let me, let me ask you acouple questions did you think
that this was a life or deaththing, that he had to go out
there to figure out what thefuck was going on with this
thing because of danger to earth.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
No, oh, I thought that initially I thought that
they were worried about it.
I didn't think that they,because they don't seem to know
what it is, but they're worriedabout it.
Yeah, okay.
Yes, they were worried about it.
I didn't think that they,because they don't seem to know
what it is, but they're worriedabout it.
Yeah, okay, yes, they'reworried about it, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I felt that they were worried about it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
I mean, they don't know what it's going to do.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
But like the idea that and what we're going to
find out, with a gun five feetaway from her, pointing a gun at
her head.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
You have to talk to this guy because he's losing his
mind, and we need this to work.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, you can stop talking to him in a week after
he fucking gets to the cloud Onthe way back.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Who cares?
He can kill himself on the wayback.
We just need the information.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yes, cares like he can kill himself on the way back
.
We just need the information.
Yes, you know, if you're gonnaset up a tension like that,
which they, they sort of want itsort of, you either have to do
it or not.
Do it one way or the other.
You know, you have to explainto this woman.
It's not about this one man,it's about something bigger than
that it's's about the Earthright now.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
This is bigger than your relationship.
Suck it up for 12 days and thenyou can do whatever you want to
do.
I don't care.
Leave his dumb ass you arestopping talking to him right at
the critical point of themission.
So we're going to need you tojust finish this out.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
And at a certain point we realize that there's, I
think, a South Korean ship.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
A day or two behind him, if that they seem real
close.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
So you're like, oh so what he's doing doesn't really
even mean anything.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Doesn't matter at all .
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
You've taken away all the stakes of this flight,
meaning something?
Yes meeting something.
Yes, so in this movie he getsaway from his ship and then he
goes into the cloud and then hegoes out of the cloud and he
gets rescued by I assume was aSouth Korean ship.
Yes, In the movie he's going.

(25:35):
I mean, in the book he's going.
All it's a suicide mission.
He's not supposed to come back,he's by himself.
There is no other ship.
Whatever happens I don't knowwhat she didn't say, what
happens in the cloud?
Because, sure, he gets rescuedby a Russian ship that is in.
They launched in secret.
Oh, the Russian ship takes himback to Earth, but they're going

(26:00):
to kill him.
Oh, but one guy takes pity onhim or whatever, lets him go.
When they get back to earth heescapes, doesn't go back to.
The wife, thinks that she wouldlive a better life without him
okay.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
So the good news is I actually that is where I
believe he is at the end of thismovie.
Anyhow, he just thinks that hewants to be with her because
he's you know, I'm so lonely.
But really he doesn't want tobe with the wife, straight up,
he doesn't want to be with her.
Oh, really.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
You think that character does not want to be
with that wife.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I think he's incapable of truly loving
somebody and I think what thespider really shows him is the
fact that she would be betteroff if he wasn't in her life.
Yeah, really yeah, because he'sa piece of shit.
She's there for him every stepof the way and he's like I don't
care about you, I don't likeyou, I'm talking about myself,

(26:54):
blah blah, I'm gonna go to space, blah, blah, yeah.
Like the spider's, like howcould you not expect her to hate
you?
And then his answer is is oh,I'll just love her.
No, no, too late guy.
The answer is you fucked up.
She doesn't love you anymoreand you never truly loved her.
Just move on.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Move on.
He fell in love with her whenshe kissed him, and that was it.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
After that, he never really he lusted her because
he's probably never been with awoman in his life.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Adam Sandler not the most attractive guy on the
planet.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Especially in this movie.
I mean, I don't know if it'smakeup or if he kind of just
starved himself for a while, buthe's gaunt.
You know what I mean?
It looks about what I'd expectfrom a guy in space for a while.
Yeah.
I don't know, losing bonedensity, all kinds of terrible
things and he has the saddesteyes you're ever gonna see.
What is?
Is he acting or is something?

(27:47):
Is something going on with adam, because he looks so sad all
the time?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I think he is kind of a sad guy.
I get that from him, I get thatvibe from him.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I think yeah, I think his tears of the clown a little
bit with him sure I'm excitedto see happy gilmore and to see
if it's you know like, becausethere's people that are like sad
eyes with a smile and that'salways.
The most depressing thing inthe world for me is when you're
you're smiling, but I knowyou're really sad.
I'm hoping that that's not thecase with happy gilmore and he,

(28:19):
like he's joyous again.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
But I'm worried.
Is that what I am, tony?
What am I?

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I've never seen you smile before, dan you're just,
you're just angry all the timeangry?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, you're angry no , I'm hateful not angry oh, I'm
yeah, you're right.
No, you're right, it's moreoutward.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
You're right, hateful uh you know, how to make me
happy um okay, make me happy uh,world's loudest toilet.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
The toilet's loud, they can't fix this toilet what,
what is this bit, or, I guess,bits even.
They're all works.
It's not funny.
But like what is this story,the through line?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I don't, I don't know , I don't get it I mean, it's
about that whole thing whereit's like it's the most annoying
thing in the world and youcan't fix it right.
You fix it and it just breaksagain and you wake up and you
can't sleep because of the noisethe toilet that's just such a
very specific thing to me and Ijust couldn't figure out why.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Why is it the shitter , you know?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Is that also a metaphor, or an allegory, or an
analogy?
I don't know the differencebetween any of those three words
, by the way, so I just use theminterchangeably.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, I don't know, and the space spider loves the
sound of the toilet.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, and why is that ?

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Maybe the space spider.
You know, because the spacespider when it comes along says
I was studying you and then Idecided to come inside and you
know there's a lot of debate asto whether the spider is him or
it's actually a thing, you know.
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I figured it out, you figured out what the space
spider is.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
for this dan you're gonna love this.
This is right up dan goodsell'salley, the spider yeah is adam
sandler's shit, all right.
So the bathroom backed up, it'shis poop and he's just talking
to floating poop right now andhe's in his head.
He's made a creature out ofit's really because the
bathroom's there's, the movieFixed it Roll credits.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
He tries to call his wife.
Wife doesn't answer.
He takes sleep drops.
He wakes up to the noise of thetoilet and then he has this
dream that there's like a bug inhis eye and then it's in his
face.
Then he wakes up from that.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I didn't like that dream, but it was one of the
most interesting things thatthey do in the movie.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
It doesn't feel like it connects to anything else in
the movie.
Nope.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Nope, not to me, but it wasn't like it didn't seem to
mean anything to the movie.
I don't know, creepy as fuck.
Yeah, yeah, it really, reallygot under my skin, as it were.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
He tries to call Lenka, Somebody else answers and
he's like who is this?
I don't know what that wasabout.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
The spider answers.
Oh, the spider answered, ortalks to him and he thinks it's
on the phone.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
So he calls ground control Peter's bro and he's
like I'll look into it.
Lenka goes and visits.
Oh, they tell him Lenka's offvisiting her mother.
Fine, he's hearing all thesenoises.
He's playing with his snacks.
His toilet goes off, he goes inthere and then there is the
spider.
So this thing that's the alien,or it's his subconscious or

(31:38):
it's some part of his brain, ispersonified as this big sort of
Brown, hairy spider, yeah, whohe names Hanush later on.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, and there was a story to that that I didn't
understand.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
So now, now he's got a spider.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
How do you feel about Paul Dano Dano?

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Dano.
I mean it's fine, he's fine,yeah, about.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Paul Dano, dano Dano.
I mean, it's fine, he's fine.
Yeah, I just wish it wassomething.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
The spider looked good, it was good design, it
looked great at all times Againit's a good looking movie.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I will never fault it for visuals.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I find it incredibly uninteresting that it's a spider
.
That doesn't mean anything tome.
If it was something you didn'tmean anything to me.
If it was something you knowlike you didn't get the allegory
there it is no, no wait.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
If it was something, what were you gonna say?
I want to hear your idea.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I don't know.
I just I would rather it wasjust.
I mean, I understand, probablyin the book it's a spider, but
I'd rather it was just an alien.
Oh sure, yeah, and because, itbeing a spider, if I'm in there
and I see the spider I'm goingto be like.
That's my question.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Right, that's my that's my number one question.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I'm going to be like I don't fucking understand how
you can be a spider.
Hang on.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
You're a spider.
How are you alive in space?
What's the spider part of youthat can breathe in space?
How did you get to my ship,spider man?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
part of you that can breathe in space.
Yeah, how did you get to myship, spider man?
And when he starts telling youknow me this, all this stuff
about you know how his planetgot invaded by the guptas or the
bloop does or the noop does, orwhatever it is, it's it's gupa
gupa did something yeah, it'slike wait a second.
I mean, are you just floatingthrough space?
Are you a consciousness?
Why?
Why am I seeing you?
You know, it seems like he'sjust floating through space.
Are you a consciousness?
Why am I seeing you?
Seems like he's just floatingthrough space.

(33:23):
Yeah, he accepts the spiderafter kind of this first scene
and I'm just like no you'regoing to have to explain to me
why you're a spider.
It's like you know.
Yeah, as someone who hashallucinated in life, you taking
those shrooms Dan.
No, just in general life.

(33:43):
I understand hallucination.
See what my hallucinations are.
I'll walk around a corner andI'll look and I'll see a person
and then I'll realize it's atree.
Yeah, and the same tree Ialways see as this person all
all the time.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
you know, I, if I look directly at it, I know it's
a tree or whatever well, you'renot gonna like what I'm about
to tell you, dan, but that's youseeing a ghost, you're seeing
through the veil no, what it isis yeah, you are.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
My brain is mapping onto that image and somewhere in
my image I saw a person in mylife that's exactly the same
shape as that and it maps thaton there because I used to see
at my parents house when we werestaying there.
I see ghost cats just in myperipheral, because you can see
through the vent.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
You're seeing ghost cats, dan, and that person by
the tree was hung at that treefor sure, and they haunt the
tree that you're seeing ghosts.
I don't know what to tell you,bud.
Bud, you're seeing the otherside.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
They planted that tree while I've lived here, so
there were no hangings at thattree, tony.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Okay, well, they were murdered beforehand.
All right, I guess my compassis a little off, but you're
seeing ghosts, bud.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
What I'm seeing is I'm seeing old memories and
that's the thing it's like.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Okay, yeah, other people's old memories, they're
called ghosts.
All right, I'm sorry, get to it.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Oh, why don't you tell me about my spirituality,
tony, jesus Christ?
Whatever the point is, you knowyou have this thing that you
can talk to, and I mean thespider says it later.
The spider's, like you, neverask me any questions about me,
and I mean that's, that's whothis adam sandler character is.
He's yeah he is notintellectually curious and guess

(35:29):
what?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
that isn't solved by the end of the movie, as much as
they want you to think.
Oh, now I'm going to bethoughtful and I love you.
I can't believe I haven'ttreated you correctly.
No, no.
He is at the point where he'slike I've got nothing left.
I need this person, I.
It has nothing to do with himloving her.
He needs her.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Totally different things, yeah so he tries to
fumigate the thing and, um, thespider disappears.
Then he start, now he startshaving these memories you know
the wife in like a flower fieldand then the the spider starts
sort of talking to him uh, hesent your fear.
Then the spider sneezes on himand gets spiders not all over

(36:11):
the the why is that somethingthat happens?
Because it probably in the book.
It was funny you think so?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
oh, you know what?
I'll buy it.
Who knows, stranger things havehappened.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I mean, can you imagine you, tony, are in a
spacesuit talking to anextraterrestrial spider and the
spider sneezes all over yourfaceplate of your spacesuit?
How would you react to that?
I'd be very upset.
Would you be lonely and maudlin?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
No, no, I'd be yelling at the spider.
He could have sneezed in anydirection other than the one
direction that now prohibits mefrom seeing anything at all.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
What the fuck, spider ?
Why you sneezing on me?
I tried to kill you.
Okay, I tried to kill you.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Okay, okay, oh sure, I get it, I get it.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
But you gotta sneeze on me.
What's the matter for you?

Speaker 2 (37:04):
What's the matter, you spider?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Okay, the spider's like.
I'm as real as you are, butyou're not allowed to touch me,
Except at the end.
They do some touching.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, I mean, they do a weird six, eight.
How many legs do spiders have?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Eight, eight-legged hug Last, I look it's eight, he
gets out of the suit and thespider explains his sort of bit.
I am an explorer.
I studied Earth.
Your loneliness intrigued me,and so I came inside.
But I'll leave you alone.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
So he just explores naked.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
How do you enter an atmosphere?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Adam Sandler's character, incapable of asking
an actual, useful question.
That's the character they'veset up in the book and in the
movie I don't.
He comes back from space aftera year.
He doesn't even say to his wifehow you been.
Because he does not care Now dothey play one of his videos of

(38:02):
what he sent to her?
Do we ever get it?
Because we never have aninteraction between them where
we can analyze who he is right,Like if somebody was trying to
analyze you and me, they wouldwatch one of these videos and
they would understand ourrelationship Pretty quickly,
pretty fast.
Alpha beta, you know it's likeman.
Watch one of these videos andthey would understand our

(38:23):
relationship pretty fast.
Alpha beta, you know it's likeman.
I believe the word is cock.
Okay, I don't know well you know, you could draw a lot, of, a
lot of inferences about what ourrelationship is.
I don't want to know what theyare.
Don't leave them in thecomments, because I don't care.
Let's sound off in the comments, friends, let's get this going,

(38:46):
but that's the whole thing isyou see a relationship that
occurs when you see two peopleyou know, you see like a couple
out in public, you know for thefirst time and you're all like
oh, that's how these two are.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
That's people.
Watching is the best.
I don't even have to know them.
I just like to judge peoplebased on the interactions I see
at the mall.
That's a fun game.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
My wife and I sit on the couch and we will dissect
people endlessly.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
That's why reality TV is fun.
Don't get me wrong, that's allwe do.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
We are all amateur serial killer profilers.
For sure, and we sit on ourcouches and we do it 24-7, and
we're always right.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
You're on your couch 24-7?
.
I'm so jealous, Dan.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I never leave that couch, just for this Coming on
this couch.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I'm honored.
I'm honored that this is thespecial couch.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
This room is my spaceship out to Jupiter.
Shannon's like can we get youout of there so that you can
talk to me?
I'm like nope, I'm on myspaceship talking to my spider,
not going to talk to you.
Sorry, I'll call you on thespace phone later, not talking
to you now.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Maybe we won't talk Maybe.
Yeah, because there's a pointwhere the wife is like talks
about their phone calls and howmuch silence there is, right, oh
, does she say that at one point?
I swear she's like you hear thesilence.
Now when I say it it soundsdumb.
So now I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
No, no, that sounds like something she would have
said.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I thought she did.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
You know, I think there's a point at which you
know she's like you know, ask mesomething.
You know like, yeah, yeah, youwant to know how my day was.
It's one of those things.
And that's the thing aboutrelationships if you have
drifted into the relationshipand you can change your
relationships, right, you know,because I'm a I'm a horrible
gaslighter and I have to.
I have to get shannon yells atme and I have to control myself
because I, you know, I'm likewell, you're never going to
learn a lesson unless I gaslightyou and learn less.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
It's for your own good.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Okay, I always think it's for your own good.
But you know, sometimes you gotto turn the dial down because
you go too far.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Sure sure, Not everybody needs the lesson.
Not every time, Dan.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Well, they do need the lesson, but they don't want
it.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
They're not going to receive it either way, so all
you're going to do is upset them.
That's all they ever do, okay.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I'll leave you alone, okay.
Wife visits her friend and thefriend is just like maybe it's
her mom, I don't know.
Hard to be sure it's Lena Olin.
We don't, we don't.
And that's the thing about thismovie is just say have a walk
in and go.
Hey, mom, you know do something, yeah, mommy he's being mean to

(41:34):
me.
Just oh, daughter, you knowthings like that do a little
something, because we don't know, because we say they say she's
going to visit her mom.
We don't know that that's true,because we know that they're
lying to him exactly, andthey're both, you know, pretty
old.
So it's hard, it's hard to know.
Well, okay, the wife is playedby carrie mulligan.

(41:55):
Okay, you know what that means.
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I don't know what that means.
What does it mean?
She looks older than she is.
Oh, that's just a thing.
Yeah, that's something we allknow about Carey Mulligan.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I pointed it out before, and let's assume it's
the mom.
The mom's like it's kind of acrazy time to leave him because
she's pregnant too.
Right.
She's like probably six monthsand three days.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
So he, like he sees her.
So was it the last day thatthey just kind of boned and then
he left.
So really was theirrelationship that bad.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Come on All right, wants to sleep with that sad
sack.
We cut back the spider's back.
I guess you know, I guess he'snot leaving.
He wants to try eggs, and thenhe's like we don't have any eggs
.
So he gives him chocolate andum, he likes the chocolate yeah,
I mean, who doesn't?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
yeah?
Um, I was in a room the otherday I really thought, wow, good
to know I was at work and we hadcake because it was somebody's
birthday and there were sixpeople in this room.
Three of them said no, thankyou, I don't like chocolate.
That feels like a highpercentage of people in one room
that don't like chocolate itwas weird to me.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Was it a chocolate cake with chocolate frosting?

Speaker 2 (43:19):
no, it was a vanilla cake with chocolate frosting,
which is my favorite.
That's a great.
It was a vanilla cake withchocolate frosting, which is my
favorite.
That's a great combination.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
It's an incredible combination Did they take
vanilla, thank you.
Did they peel the vanilla cake?
I?

Speaker 2 (43:29):
convinced one of them to eat the cake but sliver off
the frosting onto my cake.
So I had two layers of frostingon my cake, which was pretty
good.
So it worked out for me.
I was just shocked by the sheervolume of people that didn't
like chocolate in one room itwas weird.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
See, I have to have the perfect frosting cake ratio
and usually they put too muchfrosting on so you want to like
scrapes it off on the side butkeep some of it?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
yeah, that's fine, we would get along because I would
just spoon that off your plateno, I know you would like an
animal.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Um, I think I would just spoon that off your plate.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
No, I know you would Like an animal.
I would just dip my fingerright in it, scrape around the
edge, perfect, like an animal.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
So the spider says that he traveled here through
time and black holes.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Right, and that doesn't make sense, dan.
So the wife?
What little I know about blackholes, I don't think that's how
they work.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, Um wife goes to house to live so she told some
story about some house wheresome sort of I thought it was
pregnant group home, pregnant,beaten women or something it was
like.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I don't know, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
But she finally goes to this house.
It's like fucking mansion andthe swimming pool and it's like
I would like to go to this houseand 20 pregnant women, so that
sounds like a lot of work.
That would be a lot ofemotional work being in a place
with 20.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
I've never been anywhere near a pregnant woman,
but I have to imagine it'sterrible it's got to be, Got to
be those near a pregnant woman,but I have to imagine it's
terrible it's gotta be.
Those hormones are out ofcontrol, Not in a bad way, but
just you know it's tough.
I imagine not being one.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Now I'm like he's trying to get in touch with her
and this is the line I wrote.
He was glad she was sad afterthey lost their first kid.
Sure?
What the fuck does that mean?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
that means you're I don't know what that means, I
don't know who said it, but likewas he.
Maybe he was like relieved thatthey don't have a child, you
know yeah, I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, um, okay, oh wait, oh shit, I skipped page
two.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
That happens later a whole page oh boy the wife is
pregnant.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Uh, yeah, I thought she got to that house pretty
quick.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
I was like she's already going to the house.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
She goes to the house later the president is going to
talk to her by helicopter, andthen we start doing things about
the cloud.
The spider explains that thecloud holds wisdom.
There's particles from thebeginning, and then he's like
your memories are.
And then we do a memory aboutwhen the wife because the wife
proposed to him, I guess in thisI guess yeah it's.

(46:11):
I guess she was like I gottatake you to this special place
and then you go there and it'sjust like a place that there's
like some lights on the wall,pretty cool was it cool?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
well, maybe I mean listen, I've never been in the
czech republic.
Maybe that's like what can isconsidered cool, I don't know
that's like the big.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Here it is.
This one room is like threelights.
Enjoy, we'll come pick you up.
That is, this is amazing twoand a half hours later, we're
gonna come pick you up enjoylike two and a half hours um,
and then he, then the spider.
Spiders, like your memories aremaking me depressed.
Uh, okay, we go back to thewife.

(46:51):
The wife says he can't see me,he just sees dust.
I loved him because I he wasambitious.
I was wrong for loving him.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Right and all of that's kind of confusing, is he?

Speaker 1 (47:05):
ambitious.
We never see him beingambitious for one microsecond.
Never for one microsecond.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
It's hard to trust what people say in this movie
because we don't see any of thatin reality.
It's very confusing to me.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
That's what you do in act one.
You see the person as they areright, because that's what I
mean.
And if that's who he is, we gotto see him on the last day
right, they have sex.
Yeah, he's this man, they didhe's, he's striding up the thing
.
Boom, boom, boom.

(47:41):
We have 10 minutes where welaunch.
Then we do a thing that sayssix months later and we meet the
man who has A shell of hisformer self A shell of what he
used to be.
We see that he they tell himthat this is a suicide mission
and he's like President, I amdoing this because this needs to

(48:02):
be done, because this, that,and then we find out this was
all a front for him because ofhis childhood trauma with the
dad and he has made thesechoices and dragged this poor
wife and this new child into itand he has to figure out that he

(48:23):
needs to let them go so thatthey could have the good life
that they need to have withoutall makes sense to me, and this
seems like it's what's in thebook I yeah, I listen if I read
books.
Maybe I'd read it and tell you,but I've been reading the same
book for like six months now hegives a spider a name hanush,
then we get this whole storyabout the first guy who built an

(48:45):
astronomical clock and his namewas Hanush.
Yeah, okay, don't you want tolook into that astronomical
clock.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I don't you want me to.
Yes, hold on.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
That's your thing, you want me to?
Yes, hold on, that's true,that's your thing.
And then we have the sort ofset up the spiders like, oh, you
and your wife are star-crossedlovers.
And then he's like, where didthe love go?
And it's like, well, lovedidn't go anywhere because it
was never there.
Okay, we do some stuff with thedad because he was a pig farmer

(49:24):
.
Um, he runs each day, so thathe avoids wait a second hold.
Let's take a quick pause here,dan oh, we're getting into the
history of the astronomicalclock of jekyll I'm looking at
the history of the astronomicalclock and it seems that it was
not built by Hanush.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Who's Hanush then?
80 years after initialconstruction.
80 years later, the legendarymaster Hanush rebuilt the clock.
So he just kind of iterated onsomeone else's design from 80
years ago and, as the legendgoes, the counselors had him
blinded so that he would not beable to build another instrument

(50:06):
greater than the Pragueastronomical clock.
So you know, it ended badly forhim.
It seems I am confused on thestore.
Is this the story we heard inthe movie?
I feel like it's not.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Maybe it was.
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
He built a clock and then was blinded so that he
couldn't build anything betterthan that, because they're like
no, this is as high as we go,this is as good as Prague gets.
Guy, you better stop yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Okay, I don't know.
Okay, so he runs and then thespider's like you chose to flee
your planet.
Tell me about your father.
Then we get the whole sort ofhis dad was an informant and
he's doing this to atone for hisfather's sins.
Okay, the president gets to seethe wife and then she's

(50:55):
basically like we didn't givehim your message of breaking up
with him, because she recorded amessage breaking up with him.
She's like we didn't give himyour message of breaking up with
him Cause she wrote it, sherecorded a message breaking up
with him.
She's like we didn't give thatto to him and she's all like
don't worry about him, he'll befine, which is kind of true.
Whether or not this spider isreal or not, he conjured up a
spider to get him through thetough parts, as opposed to, you

(51:18):
know, really changing.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Cause he does, he doesn't change the movie.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
The end of the movie is bullshit.
He's not doing well, he'smissing you.
And then she's like, well, thenhe shouldn't have left.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
And I mean, I really hated her through most of the
movie Because it's a year.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
It's pretty not pretty not cool to be blowing up
this guy that's out in space.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Not cool to be blowing up this guy that's out
in space.
It's obviously a big year beingpregnant at all and that's
unfortunate, but it does seemlike the timing of that couldn't
really be helped.
You know what I mean, becauseit's not like he, they got
pregnant and then he was likeyou know what, tomorrow I think
I'm gonna leave.
That was already a plan.
So whether or not he knew shewas pregnant before he left,
like you can't just be like, oh,by the way, astronaut people,

(52:06):
I'm not going.
I know we've been training forthis mission for three years.
I'm not going.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
So it just feels a little unfair, that she's like
all all mad all of a sudden andI don't know, just stick it out
a year yeah, it's because yousee it in war movies too, where
the women break up with thedudes while they're overseas and
it's like just keep sending himletters to keep him going and,
you know, nip out and then whenhe gets back, just be like peace

(52:32):
out idiot.
Sorry I married this other guywhile you were gone and then
he's all like, wait, what it'slike?

Speaker 2 (52:38):
yeah sorry, it's not that long.
Like a year goes real quick.
The older we get, the fastertime goes.
I don't know how that reallyworks out, but that's how it
feels.
So like she's 50, right, I meanher year is like two weeks,
he's 70.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
How old is Adam Sandler?
He can't be.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
He's not 70.
That can't be right, adamSandler.
He's 58.
So well, I mean he's up there.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Man, he's younger than me, Spry young and look I
look better than him, right Well, in this movie.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Yeah, oh, he looks better when he's got the face.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
He's got the face.
Yeah, when he loses that face,oh boy.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Okay, it, he's got the face.
Yeah, when he loses that face,oh boy, okay, it's 45 hours to
go, you're gonna be there.
First he does a test.
It goes well.
This weird old conversationwith his wife replays out of
this projector and her eyes likegoing bleep, bleep, bleep,
bleep, bleep.
That that I hate I hated that.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
I don't know, and then it was about leaving or
something.
And then boom, one of the spaceparticles is in the spaceship
and this is the first time wesee him really be who.
He is Right, this is him.
He gets enthusiastic, he goesand finds a container to try and

(54:04):
capture it.
It flies right out of the thing.
He sucks it up in the toilet.
Then he tries to call Peter andhe can't get through to Peter.
Then there's more particles.
You're like this is who he is.
He's not fighting this hard forthe wife Nope, sure ain't.
He's not fighting this hard forthe wife Nope, sure ain't.

(54:25):
He's just moping around aboutthe wife.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Yeah, which is boring .

Speaker 1 (54:30):
And then we cut to the wife and the wife sees a
spider on the curtain and thenshe puts her finger out so the
spider can crawl on her.
Tony, do you do that when yousee spiders in your house?

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Are you kidding me, tony?
Do you do that when you seespiders in your house?
Are you kidding me?
I would have a shoe in my handin less than three seconds and
that son of a bitch is goingdown All right.
No spiders in my house.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Didn't you have spiders on your landing or
something and you had to gothrough them and they would try
to kill you?
Or was that Harrison, what Ithink that was at harrison's old
place he had like a spiderinfestation like.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Oh no, no, that was me, that was we had black widows
on our oh god, so we have.
I live in an apartment complexand there's one of those dial
things you know where you haveto put in the code.
There was a nest of black blackwidow spiders underneath the
thing and they would come out atnight and like hang at the
bottom of the thing.
So to reach out, to push thebutton, you're like I don't know

(55:32):
, two inches away from a blackwidow spider and I get
everyone's like just leave themalone and they'll leave you
alone.
It's like they're gonna thinkI'm coming for them.
I got a big old hand.
If it's coming in jabbing atthem, they're gonna fucking kill
me.
So I, uh, I got some spiderkiller and I I killed him.
And listen, a lot of peopledon't like that.

(55:53):
I kill spiders and if you'reone of those people I apologize,
but I want to live.
Okay, I want to live.
Not that I deserve to live morethan the spider, but I have the
means to do it.
So sorry, bud.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
We get flies in the house sometimes, aye, aye, aye,
and it drives the dog crazy.
So what we have to?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
do is.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
We have to get them into one of the rooms, seal them
off, and then I have a squirtbottle and then I squirt the
thing until it's watered downand can't fly.
And then I squirt the thinguntil it's watered down and
can't fly, and then I crush itwith my hands.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Just a nice, slow, painful death.
Yeah, good for you.
Dan, I hate them.
Teach those flies a lesson, doyou?

Speaker 1 (56:33):
leave them out.
Do I leave the flies' deadbodies out, like as a warning?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yeah.
So I started leaving thecarcasses of spiders behind as a
warning.
But do you know that it's theopposite?
So it turns out that a deadspider emits some sort of scent
that attracts other spiders tocome get it.
I was like, holy shit, I'mdoing it all wrong.
So the lesson learned everybodydon't leave the dead bodies as

(57:00):
a warning to others, because itdoesn't work.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
One of my favorite things ever was in one of these
D&D games we used to play whenwe were kids and I killed this
creature.
It was some sort of ogre orsomething.
It was like a Japanese ogreSure.
And I cut off its head and Ithrew it over the castle walls
to teach them a lesson.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Gal darn right it regenerated.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Should have burned the thing up.
Did you lose?
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Oh boy.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
You know, we all do dumb things, tony.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
So true, I only do them in games I don't do them in
real life.
I do everything in real life.
Sure, I only do them in reallife.
You know it's tough, Wife playswith a spider.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Your wife feels your dread about having a kid.
Then we do this whole oh.
Then we do the wife losing thefirst child, Okay.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Yeah, and now we're finally back to where we were
before Wife goes to live in thehouse.
It's just like the movieNothing's in order.
We're doing flashbacks to pagetwo after we did page three.
Oh boy.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
This is the point where he's glad that she was sad
after losing the kid.
Okay, he uses the big cellphone, which he usually called
the wife, to call Peter.
But then Hannah shuts it downand says you only want to
connect when you want to.
Your loneliness isself-inflicted.
You bore me.
And then the spider's gonnaleave and he's like don't leave,

(58:29):
I need you, Don't leave.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
And then wait.
Hold on the spider says all youcan see is yourself.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
He's like wait, and then the spider's gone.
He's like I'll do anything.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Right.
So this scene right here, andhe's like I'll do anything,
right so this scene right hereis categorical proof that the
end of the movie is the exactsame thing.
He's doing, the exact samething he does to Hanush, to his
wife, where he's like I'll doanything.
I'm so lonely, I need you.
I'm not going to support you,I'm not going to care for you,
but I need you because I'm notgoing to support you, I'm not

(59:03):
going to care for you, but Ineed you because I'm lonely.
Well, well, well, well.
And I?
I.
If someone wants to try toprove me wrong and show me in
the movie where he actuallychanges, I'll listen.
But I don't believe you.
I don't think it changes.
Uh, it says it right.
This is the line in the moviewhen he's like you only what did

(59:24):
he say?
You wrote it down.
You only reach out when youneed it or something you only
want to connect when you want to.
Yeah, exactly, and guess what hewants to?
Right now he's real sad inspace all alone.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
And the thing we learn in relationships Is we
have to fake interest In ourloved ones.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I don't know if that's the lesson.
We have to fake interest in ourloved ones.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I don't know if that's the lesson, Dan.
If you want to keep your lovedones, you have to fake interest
in them.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
That's what we want.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Listen, you're not totally wrong, I feel like
you're framing it negatively,because then eventually you'll
be able to, you know, move theconversation back into talking
about you.
Back to yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
We just got to navigate and be like oh yes, I'm
interested, I'm interested, butnow let's bring it back to me.
Thank God, I'm here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Every conversation is about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Brilliant.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Navigating it back to talking about me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Duh Shannon is a lucky lady me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Duh shannon is a lucky lady.
Now he has the memory about thesecret place where they kissed,
and this is where he's spinningand he's boozed up and he's
spinning.
Yeah, I did not like this atall now, did you think, when all
the, the booze particles werefloating out into the, the, the
very important systems that keephim alive, did you think
something was going to happenbecause of that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
I feel like they should, but it doesn't matter,
because I guess spaceneutralizes wetness.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
That's what every astronaut's ever said to me.
They walk up to me and they'relike you know, space neutralizes
wetness, so there you go, don'tgo.
Wife's in the swimming poolbeing pregnant.
Jakob is crying.
Don't go Wife's in the swimmingpool being pregnant.
Jakob is crying.
He calls Peter Calm down andhe's like Peter, you got to go
see Lenka, she's mad.
So he drives out there, she'smad.

(01:01:15):
He's like okay, jakob needs tojust talk to you, he doesn't
just want you to listen.
This is what he says.
I get it.
Oh, at one point he said so themission's supposed to go out?
Do the space test?
and then come home.
But he said to her at one pointmaybe I'll just keep going and
see what it's like past Jupiter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Yeah, which isn't how anything works, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
That's suicidal right ?
So he's like I'm moreinterested in collecting some
more bonus information andkilling myself than coming home
to you, which is just a weirdthing that's separate from
everything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
I didn't even put that together, as he still won't
come home To me.
It was just like I might juststay, you know like when, go to,
like your weekend home andyou're just like you know what,
fuck it, I'm gonna call in sickto work for the next three days.
I'm gonna stay an extra twodays.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
that's what it felt like he was doing, but I, I see
what you're saying yeah, see,but you see you're mapping
tony's way of living life, whichis like how can I get away with
being on vacation even longer?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Just a wee bit longer , because this is nice.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
I want to come home.
I'm not sure why I left.
You're all that matters.
I never tried to know you.
This is what a guy is saying tohis wife that he's been married
to for 10 years.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
I would think X amount of years.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Yeah, yes, I never tried to know you.
I didn't see you.
I lived my life for all thewrong things.
I don't deserve you.
And at the very last he saysI'm so sorry.
Then she cries and he cries,and the cloud clouds.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Oh, it clouds, all right.
So this reminds me of, like youknow, when you see
interventions and stuff in thereand then people like yeah, like
addicts are like I'll never doit again, never to get, and they
, they think they mean it.
Yeah, this is not a negative,like it's you know very
different things, because one ofthem is a disease, but it just
kind of reminds me of like thisguy's like I have to say what

(01:03:21):
I'm gonna say in order to keepher, because I want to keep her,
but then as soon as he gets thenext adventure, he's gone,
guaranteed.
He hasn't changed that.
He just talked to the spidereight seconds ago and the spider
was like you, you are selfish,see you later.
And now he's like oh, I'mselfish.
No one's ever told me thisbefore, so now I understand

(01:03:43):
everything.
It's dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Selfishness doesn't typically go away.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
No, it's hard and you can learn to manage it.
I'm a very selfish person, butI think I do a decent job of
trying to manage that.
No, not great.
Well, now that you've told me,now I get it.
I'm cured.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Un poco.
Shannon knows a lot of addicts.
Shannon has addictive things.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
We all have addictive things.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Oh yeah, she's had addictive things in her life and
she's always like 10% that'sthe amount of people that get
through serious addictions.
The other 90% go back, go backagain, go back again, go back
again.
It's hard, it's very hard.
It's very hard, it's very hardto change Because you know we

(01:04:34):
live very stressful existencesand this guy he's on a spaceship
, he'll say anything.
She's sitting back at home,home, maybe being a little bored
, but she could just go see hermom hang out with her friends,
have a shrimp cocktail whatever,swim in a pool swim in a pool.
You can't swim in a pool I loveswimming in pools.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
He can't even take a shower.
He's wiping himself with thosecloths.
You ever try to wash yourselfwith all those cloths?
It's the worst experience inthe world to me.
God, I hate it so gross.
I hardly use moist toilets whenI eat wings, you know, because
they are ribs.
When they give you those, Idon't even use those, I just

(01:05:14):
lick my fingers and then use anapkin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
I hate wet wipes, hate him that's how you really
feel you pig weirdo.
Um, okay, he has a memory aboutthe ashes of his dad and
there's hamush in the urn andthen he's like oh, you have
purge, now sleep.
And then he's all like don'tleave me again, let us face the

(01:05:40):
cloud together but he says sleep, and then doesn't he wake him
up immediately?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Yeah, because they got to go into the cloud.
Yeah, I was a little confused.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
This is when the spider's like you know what I
told you I'm going to liveforever.
Nope, I'm dying.
Guess what?

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I'm already dead.
So here's my biggest problem.
Is he from being like totallyfine, Paul Dano, yeah To the
next scene Can't even breathe.
He's like how did this happen?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Cause that's not because the aliens that invaded
his planet are inside of himwhich also doesn't make any
sense.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
I hated that.
I'm sorry, because if I mean,if there were, there was so many
of them at the end like what'shappening, dan?

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I fled too late, and then he's like you never asked
about me, so wait, so thespider's already blown up,
because the spider said that hedid good, but the spider's
blowing him up instantly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Yeah, because, fuck you dude, you don't even know
who I am.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
And then they do a big hug, and then tomorrow's the
big day.
Okay, big day.
The wife talks to some randomlady about the cloud.
I don't know what that scenewas.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
And why do they all know that her husband is the
astronaut up there?
Because that scene ends withthe lady being like I'd rather
be here than up there.
Why, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
That scene was weird.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
It was super weird.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
It's almost time, and then Lenka leaves the birth
center and takes a car and isdriving away yeah, I don't know
where she's going yeah, um, sohe's doing the collection thing
and now hannish is like outside,and then he's all like, oh, I

(01:07:26):
gotta stop the collection, Igotta save hannish, because
hannish is the only thing thatmatters.
And so he takes a thing of thedecontaminant with him outside,
which I thought he was going touse that to control where he was
going.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Nah, he can swim pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Well, hold on, so he goes over to Hanush and then he
just lets the thing go and I'mlike, and I guess he was trying
to decontaminate Hanush.
Oh, that's what he was tryingto do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
He was trying to get rid of the bugs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
The bugs that are inside the spider.
Oh see, I didn't realize.
Did you realize that at thetime?

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
I think that Hanush says it later.
I think he's like thanks fortrying with that stuff.
Now, my biggest problem withthat is I was like well, you
already got dosed with it in theship, big time dose.
So if that didn't heal you thenit wasn't going to heal you now
.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
That doesn't make any sense.
As you say, Adam Sandler'scharacter has not learned
anything, so he hasn't learned adamn thing.
He's trying the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
You're right, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
So they're just floating out there and then
Hanush takes him by the hand andthen Hanush can swim through
space, because that's how spaceworks.
That's how spiders work I don'tknow if you've seen spiders.
That's also how spiders work.
And then we go into the cloudand I don't know man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Oh, you don't know.
I thought you were going toknow this part, because this is
the part where I turned to mywife and I did this, what that's
it.
That was my big reaction.
I was like what?
This was the part where Iturned to my wife and I did this
, what that's it.
That was my big reaction.
I was like what, I'm defeated.
I'm defeated at this point inthis movie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
How much does your wife hate me?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Oh, she was playing her Switch the entire time.
After the first five minutesshe turned on Disney Dreamlight
Valley and never looked back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Damn, maybe next time .

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
I'll hide or switch, just she has to watch it with me
.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Then the wife is at this weird unbuilt house.
Did you understand?
That at all, what's with theunbuilt house that she went to?
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Not a clue.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Then the spider's like this is it the ending and
the beginning?
There's a lot of things,because I don't know what that
means then we figure out, thenhe just figures out that the
first time he saw her he that'swhat he felt that's the only
time he really cared about herand was sort of in love with her
and like you say maybe that'snot love.

(01:09:56):
That was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
That was him being horny yeah, that is the chemical
in your brain.
That's like I need to mate now.
So we've all been there, buddythat's how I first saw her.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
And then he's like she's not here.
And then he gives.
He gives hatteras the chocolate.
Here you go, take thischocolate with you to death, and
then someone, so I want to gosomeone says that's my chocolate
, but well, this, this wasactually hazelnut.
I shouldn't.
I should stop saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I like hazelnut, that's fine too it's not as good
as chocolate, but it does.
It makes a nice sandwich, youknow, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
I feel fear and you feel hope.
Thanks, hanush.
Particles out.
Particles out particles out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Oh yeah, he particles out.
He turns into a bunch of dust.
Just that would be a funny signoff particles.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Uh, the wife sees a particle and then she kind of
connects with him across space,which I was like that's
interesting it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
But like are the particles on on earth now?
Like how much trouble are theyin?

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
that one got there shit's gonna go down when the
particles get there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
We still don't know what the cloud is or what it's
going to do, and nobody seems tocare.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
At the end of the movie I thought I read you what
it was.
It's all.
It's the, the ending and thebeginning.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Don't read.
It's the beginning and theending.
I'm going to punch you.
That is not an explanation, DanRight here it's on the page
Right here, right here, straightfrom the script.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Then we cut back to the river.
He's in the river from the verybeginning of the movie walking.
There's his wife, all dressedup like she's going to Mardi
Gras or something, the Rasulca.
Yeah, like they're going toMardi Gras or something.
They connect and therelationship starts over.
He's back in space.
He gets saved by the SouthKorean.
The wife gets a call.

(01:11:51):
I would never have left you.
I'd kiss you again.
It was a really good kiss.
So does he call her?

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I guess he calls her from the south koreans calls her
from the other shit and thereand he's like if I knew now what
I knew, then I never would haveleft.
Bullshit, absolute bullshit.
And then she was like well, I'dstill kiss you because you're a
good kisser also bullshit I'mcalling her right now.
I don't think he's that good ofa kisser.
There it is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
And their relationship has a 10% chance of
working.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
If that, I give it 1% .

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Tony's putting it at 1%.
I'm giving him 10% becausethat's the number.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
That's the statistical number, and I just
don't believe he's even that far.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
But this movie like definitelyis like uh, oh god, who's that
painful?
Who's that one director thatdid tree of life?
Who did the movie tree of life?
Who's that director?

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
oh, boy, oh, I got a terrible memory but I Great
Google, google, that Tony Treeof Life film 2011,.
Obviously made by Terrence.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Malick yeah, this felt like an amateur Terrence
Malick movie.
Right, that's what it felt liketo me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Sure, I don't think I've ever seen a Terrence Malick
film and I don't have any plansto.
So thanks for making me watchthe Kmart version.
We're going to do tree of lifein two weeks.
God, I that movie's over twohours.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
I'm out two hours 18 minutes, no thanks, they're like
you know they're like oh it's,it's like a memory of a Sunday
in the 1970s Blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, anything else
you want to say about this greatmovie, Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
It's pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
It's a good-looking well-made movie, hire this DP,
hire these special effects guys100%, but just get a different
movie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
get a different movie for it have them make a good
movie it doesn't even have to begood, just something more
watchable where I don't sitthere and, like you know, I just
want to punch myself in theface, to stay awake, to get
through it a lot of dreamy shotsdreamy and weird they're all
warped and I was just like, why,what?

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
is what is this?

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
why?
What is the choice for this?
Why I don't need this?
You know psych used to do a lotof flashbacks to when he's a
child.
Yeah, and they would just sepiatone it, you know, they just
make it a little more brown.
That's how you know it's thedream and versus reality.
You don't need to do this weirdwarp thing.
I thought at first maybe wewere looking through the
spider's eyes, but then I waslike no, it would have a bunch

(01:14:44):
of circles and that's not right.
So I I still don't know whythis movie made these choices.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Round it up now we talk about something we like
this week.
Tony, what did you like thisweek?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
I'm going to say two things, oh, two things.
We watched the movie Novocainewith Jack Quaid, who I was on
jury duty with.
It was awesome, was it Was itgood.
It is insane.
It is so brutal and gory, butalso funny.
It was really good.

(01:15:19):
I I would recommend it.
But if you're squeamish, justget ready to close your eyes,
because they do some reallymessed up stuff because he can't
feel pain.
So it's like what can you do toa guy that doesn't feel pain?
Turns out you do a lot of stuffto him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
It's pretty messed up do they do things to his teeth?
Do they do things to his teeth?

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
uh, I don't.
Oh, do they do teeth?
I don't think they do teeth.
They mess things to his teeth.
Oh, do they do teeth?
I don't think they do teeth.
They mess up his hand isprobably the grossest thing that
they do, but it's fun.
It's some fun stuff.
I would recommend it.
And then we started watchingyour Friends and Neighbors the
new Jon Hamm show, and I'mreally liking it.

(01:15:55):
It's very poignant to my liferight now because it's all about
him getting laid off and thenturning to a life of crime.
Um, which is one of my optionsI'm thinking about we're gonna
do crime.
Excellent, you want to do somecrime?
I'll do crime right now.
I'm not.
My naomi doesn't think I'd bevery good at it.
Um well, I don't know murderfor hire.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
I'd do that I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
I don't think I'd be good at that, just because, like
you know, I'd want to bragabout it.
Be like, oh, I took this guyout, no problem, look how tough
I am.
But no, we're having a goodtime.
Jon Hamm's great he's great.
Amanda Peet's great it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
We're enjoying it.
Yeah, I watched her onsomething.
She just like you're like wow,that smile.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
If you like Amanda Peet you should go watch the old
mid-2000s series Bent with her.
It's one of my favorite sitcoms.
It only lasted six episodes,but I rewatch it all the time.
David Walton is in it, who isone of my biggest man crushes.
It's great.
Go watch it.
I don't know if you can.
I don't know if it's streaminganywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
I bought it.
What was that one?
The movie where they kidnap herand put her in the basement
with Steve Zahn.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Oh yeah, saving Silverman.
Jack Black, steve Zahn, jasonBiggs, amanda Peet that movie's
great Judith Escaped.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
So good, she's so evil, she's so evil, she's so,
and you're like she's so hot.
You would be you know, shewould just control any man
around her.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
And I'm, I'm here for it, I'm just like take, the
reins, take the reins.
I'm yours.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
All men are like, yeah, I tried to, but I would be
you, just me to do.
We watched a lot of stuff, butit was just continuing, you know
, watching some more BlackMirror, watching Ludwig, but we
did watch this reallyinteresting documentary about
the Kingdom of Brunei, which isthis tiny Muslim kingdom that's

(01:17:53):
part of Malaysia and it's justone of those weird things that
lives outside of existence.
you know they have these weirdweddings and you know, there's
all this jungle and then there'sthe other tribes that live in
the jungle, and then some ofthem may try and indoctrinate,
and some they're like no, it'sjust so wild stuff.

(01:18:15):
Yeah, it's one of those placeswhere you go as your documentary
crew and then they have like adude that stands there and he's
like no, no, you can't shootthis.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
You know, it's like that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Whenever you do those things and just like the
weirdness, like these bigshopping malls that they're
walking around.
But if you like, drive for onehour, you get to Malaysia and
it's all like party town.
Because you know it's likethere's no, no, partying, no,
and I I missed the one partwhere shannon says they only
have like two sitcoms andthey're like done like by

(01:18:47):
community theater people.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
I gotta yeah what that sounds terrible.
Yes, it sounds so great.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Can you imagine that if you lived in this weird
little place and you're you'vegot to make one of the two
sitcoms and you're like?

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
that's pretty cool.
I would do it if I knew thelanguage.
Tony about town.
Here comes tony.
Imagine if we brought themfriends dan.
They would go crazy for it.
I'm sure they all have it ontheir phones in secret, but I
think that's how you getmurdered.
I don't know.
I didn't watch the documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Tony, we need a movie for next time.
Can you pick one that's asentertaining to talk?
See, that's the thing aspainful as this movie was
incredibly entertaining to talkabout.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
I think I've done it.
I think I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Tony has broken the code.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
I mean, the source material has got to be on the
same level, because the sourcematerial is from George RR
Martin and he's supposed to bepretty smart.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
That's the king of the Dragon King.
Dude that guy, game of Thrones.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Is that what you're trying to come up with?

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
This has dragons and Khaleesi and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Ah, Khaleesi.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Jason Momoa.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Back when I really liked him a lot because he was
great as Khal Drogo.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
But you loved him in the car drive movies.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Yeah, he was great in Fast and Furious because he's
just having fun, man.
He's just there and he's justfucking shit up.
He's wearing fancy clothes andhaving a great time.
It's lovely.
Uh, the rest of the movie notas great, but I'm excited to to
watch the.
This.
The series close out so if itever really does.
George rr martin did somethingother than game of thrones yeah,
I think it's just based on likea short novella he wrote maybe

(01:20:34):
or something.
I don't think he, because it's astory by yeah, so I think, uh,
paul anderson, paul ws andersonoh, he's the resident evil guy
he sure is, and so he took oneof his favorite leading ladies,
mia jojovich, and put her inthis new movie with dave batista
, and it's called in the LostLands.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
I believe I've watched the trailer for this.
You did yes, I did not.
This is a new movie, right,yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
it's brand new.
This just came out last weekand I saw it and I was like,
well, I guess we're going towatch that, because this looks
dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
Did you watch the trailer?
Nope, refused it looks like youmade it for two hundred
thousand dollars it does.
What did they make it for?
I don't know, I didn't evencheck the budget.
But I, if I'm correct, Ibelieve I watched this trailer
and I was just like who says thebudget's about 55 million, so

(01:21:36):
you're not totally off.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
It doesn't even hit the $100 million.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
I'm excited about this because I think you were
like, oh, you don't know how touse Dave.
Dave Bautista, he was in thatKnock on the Cabin one.
That was great.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Oh yeah, what was that Knock at the Cabin Door?

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
You liked the terrible zombie Zack Snyder ones
.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
I don't know what you're describing, because you
said terrible, so it'sdefinitely not the one that I'm
thinking of.
Yeah, no, I did.
I liked that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
The movie where they had to rotoscope an interesting
character into the movie becausethe movie was so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
No, that is not what happened.
The guy that they rotoscopedout of it was a sex offender or
something.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
People An alleged sex pest.
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Yeah, yeah, real bad.
He was a real bad guy.
Real bad guy so they got himout of there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Allegedly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Allegedly, of course, of course I'm not saying, I
know anything.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
But Dave Bautista was in something else.
That was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
You know he, you know he's, he's tuber stupor, no
stupor.
Did you watch stupor?
Him and Kumail did like acomedy where David Kumail is
like a Uber driver and DaveBatista is like a hitman or
something and they he hijacksthe car and they go on an
adventure did you, did you seeit.
Oh yeah, I saw it, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
I mean it was fun, he's that guy, he's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Vin.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Diesel.
Back in the day, vin Diesel wasthe babysitter and the tooth
fairy and all those things.
Or maybe the rock was the toothfairy, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Was the rock, the tooth fairy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
I think the rock was the tooth fairy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Yeah, rocks tooth fairy, pacifier, Pacifier.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Okay, so in the Lost Lands, Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Thomas.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Anderson Mila Jovovich, one of the most
beautiful men on the planet.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Yeah, so let's see how I feel they give her some
sort of weird.
I'm looking at a picture.
There's some sort of tattoo onthe face, oh, even better.
I love face tattoos.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
You know how I like them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
So one of the reasons I picked this, by the way, is
because I did like a quickgoogle search and somebody was
writing a review and basicallysaid that this was a great
audition uh, for dave batista toplay the gunslinger in stephen
king's new adaptation.
I was like there's no way thatthat's right, because I think
he'd be terrible at that role.
So I gotta see this movie oh,okay, that sounds good.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
So we're gonna to be doing in the lost lands next
time.
Hope you enjoyed the spaceman.
If you like what we do, give usa comment, a thumbs up or leave
us a message you're gettingworse.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
We're 230, some episodes into this.
You shouldn't be getting worseat the sign off.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
I mean, I've explained to you that I cannot
do the same thing twice, youknow that thatoff.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
I mean, I've explained to you that I cannot
do the same thing twice.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
You know that that's true.
Yeah, you have.
I mean yeah, back when we usedto do the sketch shows and I'd
have to remember all the lines.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
If we'd had to do it twice in that night.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
I probably couldn't have remembered anything if I
had to do it twice.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Well then, I'm glad we only did them once per show.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
That's good, I always like see these people that are
doing plays, and I'm like you dothat more than once.
No, yeah, but you, you know,you try to find different ways
to do it.
You know?
No, I understand that, I justdon't.
I think I'm like, once I use it, it's gone it's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
It's done, we're done , we're moving on, yeah you know
it's like well, you, whatmusicals?

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
can you just stand there and do?
You could probably do.
You could do some musicals.
Can you just stand there and do?
You could do some musicals,can't you?

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I used to do musicals.
You know what I could do rightnow?
I could do a goofy movie backto back for you right now.
So real side note, by the way,I'm going to go on a little
tangent.
Todd, friend of the show.
Todd sent me a message.
Apparently him and JasonMarston are friends.
Right, sent me a message.
Apparently him and JasonMarston are friends.
Or he sent me a picture from 20, 30 years ago of them hanging

(01:25:24):
out and I was like that's thecoolest thing in the world.
So Todd's my new hero.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Cool, oh, that was it .
Was he in the?
That's it.
He was in the Goofy movie orsomething Stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Yes, stan, he's Max in the.
He's the lead in a goofy movieyes, wait, isn't goofy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
The lead in the movie .

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
He's like he's the dad but max is the son, which
the story is technically aboutthem both in their relationship.
It's a beautiful.
You really should see the movie, dan.
Okay, so the next time we talkI've expected you to have
watched the movie is that onlike disney plus or something?
Yeah, it's on Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Oh, maybe I'll watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
And it's 30 years old , so maybe you should do it.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
I like old movies, not old-ish movies.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Just that middle ground.
You know, it's just no good.
We'll be back next week.
Goodbye everybody.
Hey, watch it With Dan and Tonynext week.
Goodbye everybody.

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