Hate Watching The Electric State: Robots, Humans, and One Really Bad Wig

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got to fix this couch one of these days.
One of the springs unsprung, soI got to screw it back together
.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, that's tough, Because then you got like a
little divot right.
Yeah, that's not good.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
You have a dip.
You don't really have a divot,there's nothing missing.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Okay, explain to me the difference, Mr Furniture man
.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Divots when you hit something.
You know when you're golfingyou literally displace a piece
of it.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I've made a lot of divots in my day.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I can imagine Welcome to Hate Watching with Dan and
Tony.
I'm Dan, I'm Tony, I'm Dan, I'mTony, and on this show we talk
about a terrible movie thatHollywood has released.
It's not hard to find them.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
They keep doing it, you know, thank goodness.
T-g-f-h.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I was watching.
There's this guy on YouTube theCritical Drinker.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
First of all, it's a funny name.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's one of those ones that's pretty negative.
They're like Hollywood.
But some of the stuff he saysis fine.
He was talking about this DaisyRidley movie called the Cleaner
oh yeah, sure You've heard ofthat.
I was like it's fake, die Hardand a terrible fake Die Hard.
And the guy that did it was theguy that directed Casino Royale

(01:29):
and one of the other ones.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I heard decent things about it.
I thought I thought people werelike, yeah, this is a fine
movie.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I don't know, you don't know Everything he said
when can we watch it?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
We have to rent it.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, it's just there's still an infinite.
You know, it's like as fast aswe can go, there are still so
many movies that need to belambasted continuously.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Sure, sure Is this one out, I can't even tell.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
It must be, he's seen it.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well sure, I mean, if he's seen it, okay, it came out
february 21st, so it's it's new.
Oh yeah, it's got.
It's got 50, 50 uh critics, 66audience.
That's pretty good.
Maybe we'll just do this nextweek, then we can we can tell,
prove this guy wrong that's 50critics.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's that is a lower audience rating than
electric State has on there.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well, sure, but it probably doesn't have all the
fan surface that Electric Statehas.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
There's so many fake ones on Electric State.
You're just like these are allfake.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh, is there really?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh yeah, Well, you know that.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, but I didn't look.
I don't look at these things,so I wasn't sure, but I love
that, while I was waiting foryou, who was so late.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I was like well, let's go to the Rotten Tomatoes
and see how many people they'vepaid to try to prop up their
terrible movie, the.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Electric State.
How did it do it's?
Rotten Tomatoes 50% critic.
That's not very good.
74% audience score that'spretty good, Pretty good.
It's as good as you pay for.
Yeah, people love this movie,Dan.
It's as good as you pay for.
Yeah, people love this movie,Dan.
This is a great film.
Let me tell you about this film.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
We're doing the Electric State Right.
Brand new Netflix, $300 millionblockbuster.
Oh gosh, guys, let me 2025, twohours and eight minutes, but
probably 15 to 17 minutes.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I think it is 17, because we looked at it when she
was giving her speech at theend and my wife was like there's
18 minutes.
I was like no, there's not,there's nothing else to happen,
what's going on here?
And sure enough, it wraps uppretty quickly.
So, yeah, a lot of peopleworked on it.
It looks nice, dan.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, I bet you on a big screen.
This is a good looking movie,Well, but it's not on the big
screen?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Is it on the big screen?
Did it do a simultaneousrelease?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, no, they're not crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Then you're going to need a big projector in your
house to make it look nice guys.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Let me ask you this question, Donut, Before we go
any further we did another movie, maybe a month back, maybe a
little more, called Borderlands.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh yeah, I don't even remember Borderlands, I don't
either.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
But based on your foggy memory, better movie,
worse movie than Electric State.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I think that I mean as a movie.
It's probably better.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I think that I enjoyed this movie more than I
enjoyed Borderlands.
Okay that makes sense, but thismovie is not very interesting.
You know what I mean.
Like script, like the plot,like as a movie, I don't think
it's very good, but I think it'sbeautiful.
I think it's visually beautiful, I think it looks really nice

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and if you tune out the leadactors, there's some really good
stuff.
I think going on with the voiceacting Hank Azaria, is
hilarious for like six minutesbefore they just kill him off,
Is he?
And then the music's great.
Who's?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Hank Azaria he's the magician, the what is it
Prospero?
I think maybe.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think that sounds right Because I made
the hilarious joke by more likeDeaderow or something great
like that last night Reallyreally got my wife laughing.
She didn't care.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
She didn't.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
No one does.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I didn't like the guy that played Herm the Herm
character oh interesting, no onedoes um.
I didn't like the guy thatplayed herm the herm character.
I didn't, oh interesting, Iliked herm, okay, I thought I
thought herm was fun.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Um, I liked him better than I liked chris pratt,
so that's something.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, um, what's wrong with millie bobby brown?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
well, she can't act.
Oh, is that what you're askingme?
Yes, that's my question.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
My question is the global view of her, because it's
like People love her.
We'll talk about her makeupnext.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I just was like I'm not the connoisseur of acting.
I know good acting when I seeit and I'm like, oh, this
person's making me feelsomething.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
But with her.
Her I was just like what wasgoing on in all this so I mean,
this is gonna depend on who youask, because let's get this out
in the open people love her,people think she's great, she's
wonderful.
I have yet to see her insomething where I go, oh she's
good, she's talented.
She was great in like seasonone.

(06:26):
I have yet to see her insomething where I go, oh she's
good, she's talented.
She was great in like seasonone of Stranger Things.
Because, as a kid, acting isvery difficult and she was able
to portray two emotions reallyreally well, which is like anger
and sadness, or like alone.
Like that feeling she was verygood at those two things.
Sure, or like alone.
You know what I mean?
Like that, that feeling she wasvery good at those two things.

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It turns out, I believe, thatthose are the only two things
she can do and they justhappened to find that very young
where they're like, oh, she'sreally good at these things and
she's no good at any otherthings.
She has no other emotions thatseem human or believable,
because I have yet to seeanything else she's done where I
think she's doing a good jobNow.
Granted, this script is bad.
There's not a lot of good wordson the page for her to say,

(07:11):
nope, the story's bland,terrible.
But you know, she has anemotional speech a couple of
times.
She has like two speeches inthis movie, yeah, and neither of
them moved me a millimeter, gotit.
I didn't feel it.
I was just like, okay, wellshe's.
I I almost feel like she's gotcute cards on the other side of

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the screen because she isputting no emotion whatsoever
into this and she can cry.
You know, she can cry incommand, which only works if, I
believe, your cry.
Sure, and that sounds weird,sure, but as someone who cannot
cry and so did I ever tell youabout the commercial?
I did where I was supposed tocry and I couldn't cry.
And so they, you know, they putlittle, they put little I don't

(07:54):
even know what menthol orsomething underneath your eyes,
so your eyes water.
And there's other, you know,they blow stuff in your eyes.
They did all this stuff for mein the commercial.
And then I watched thecommercial and I was like, well,
that guy's not crying Becauseit's still here, right, you
still have to have it here.
And you have to have it here,you have to feel it.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Just because there's water coming out of your eyes
doesn't mean I believe thatyou're feeling emotional, so you
can't conjure the sense memoryto start crying.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
I can't do it, oh, I can't do it, oh, wow, it's just
not possible.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I probably I don't know why I probably can't.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
You can.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
You think so, I think so.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
You have a depth of feelings that are pretty.
I believe you.
I absolutely believe you.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I have some feelings in there.
I usually keep them nicelybottled up so they can come out
as anger.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, well, that's what you should do as a man.
That's what you should do as aman.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
But no, I have time.
You know, it's like I kind ofturned on some movie and I was
just like, oh yeah, if I watchthis movie I start crying.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
And I'm just like oh, I'm crying.
Now I do the same thing and Ican.
If the cameras aren't rolling,I think I probably can't, but I
can.
Things can trigger things in me, but I can't do it on my own.
I it, but I can things cantrigger things in me, but I
can't do it on my own.
I don't know what it is, evenif I had to do an audition.
Now we're getting way off topic, but I had to do an audition a
few weeks ago when I was inSwitzerland, um not to put a

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bummer in my cat's sick and um,I had to cry.
The whole commercial auditionwas just like oh, you have to
cry.
And I was like can't cry.
So I called, I called my wifeand she's like telling me all
these things about my dying cat,and I was like, oh, I'm crying,
I'm crying.
And I turned on, the cameradried up and I was just like,
well, I don't know what to dothis doesn't work yeah, there's

(09:37):
something wrong with me there'ssome, there's some.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I won't necessarily say it's perfect, but it's like
professionalism.
You know you like and you'relike.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well now, I'm at work and.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I got to leave my not work stuff, Okay good job, tony
.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
So crying's tough is all I was trying to say, and I
don't feel any emotions comingfrom her.
I feel like she fits in withthe robots.
Yeah, of them are, I feel likeyou know she fits in with the
robots.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, so this movie's from a source material of this
guy who has a you know like aSwedish name Stellens something,
something or somethingsomething You've never read.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
This one huh, Sci-fi man.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
He's mainly an illustrator, you know, and a, so
he draws.
So everything in this moviethat's visually interesting is
because of his existence, is him.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yes, so is this like a graphic novel?
I should have done any researchon this.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
It's a novel, but it's big, big color paintings.
And then they do go on a roadtrip to find the kid, and so I
think the thing is basically thesame.
The kid is being used, I thinkat the end, and she finds him In
the book.
The war is not explained.

(10:55):
It's not humans versus robots.
It's two groups that used a lotof VR stuff and robots and
things, so it's left this sortof destroyed mechanical thing
and out of that comes a lot ofpeople being addicted to VR.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, Wouldn't that have been interesting to explore
?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
a little bit more.
I mean more than the one shotthat they act like they're
exploring it, but the way thatthe whole movie is set up.
You can't explore it in thatone shot, that is the most angry
part.
I got in this whole stupidmovie.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Good for you.
That's the right move there,Dan.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I will ask you this question before we keep going.
Is this one of the worst thirdacts in a movie we've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Remind me what happens in this third act.
Remind you, I watched this, Ifinished it this morning and I
think I might have been a littletired still.
But like I mean, they just kindof fight and then they kill the
kid, then they kill the kid,they kill the kid.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
That's it right, there's a.
There's basically a very sillyfight yeah, where.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, I remember.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I remember the silly fight where the professional
soldiers are beat by the ragtagbunch of comical robots and then
the bad guy comes out in hissuper robot suit and basically
kills everyone, which isn't evenvery super.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
No, let's just let's be that.
I remember very clearly I waslike well, this is hardly a
souped up version, Becausethere's a line where the cop
lady's like he made a big oneand I was like, not really, he's
half the size of most of yourteam.
I don't, I'm so confused rightnow, yes.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
And I'm so confused right now, yes.
And then Millie Bobby Brownpushes like a couple of buttons
to kill her brother that she hasbeen searching.
I don't know.
Does she push all three?
Does she push all three?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
She pushes all three, one at a time, very clearly
labeled as life support,something else, something else.
And that's how you kill the kid.
Just three buttons out in theopen One, two, three.
Well, I'm sorry If you leanagainst this machine.
Kid's dead.
Oh, I pushed it with my arm.
Can we save him?
No, all right, I guess thewhole machine.

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Everything's over.
We ruined everything.
It's one of the dumbest thingsI've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
It's so terrible and it so doesn't.
It's your classic save theworld or save Spock.
But it's not save the world orsave Spock, it's like it's sure
not.
It's like save your brother.
But there's some explanation asto why she can't save her
brother and we don't know whatit is and they don't explain it
to us.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Because it's symbiotic.
They can't live without him.
That's what they told me.
He could, he could leave?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I guess no but he okay, we're gonna talk, but this
just felt like one of the worstthird acts ever, where it's
just lackluster fight, it's badand then you know the the, the
emotional decision that has tobe made.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
That's like made with no emotion whatsoever well,
because the problem is is I mean, I don't know about them, but I
don't buy into the ultimatum.
You never buy into it becauseit doesn't make any sense.
So I'm not even sad like, I'mjust like what are you talking
about?
Yeah, you're.
You're apparently the smartestkid that's ever lived.
There's definitely a way to getyou out where you're not dead,

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like without a doubt, a doubt.
And then they do On accident.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
They do so dumb.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Nah, his head's, he's up.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
He's around.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
He's alive.
This is a dumb.
You're right, this is a dumbmovie.
I wasn't mad until we justtalked about it right now, oh
we'll get mad at it.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
I wrote this down after thinking about this movie.
Oh, what'd you write down?
This is it.
The key to drama is puttingyour characters in an untenable
situation, which only they'reable to sort out using tools
that have been provided to themover the course of their journey
.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah just like this movie when she learns to turn
off all of her emotions and killher brother for no reason, when
Chris Pratt tells his littlemachine that he wants to have
sex with him.
I have no idea.
I'm hoping that you can explainthat part of the movie to me
because I was like what's goingon?
Is he trying to have sex withthis robot?

(15:17):
I know how I would haverewritten that scene In any way,
shape or form.
It's a great scene.
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's a great scene.
No, it's not.
No, it's a terrible scene, butthe pieces of a great scene are
sitting there.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Sure, sure, right, but that's not what we got.
Yeah, but we got a weird scenewhere I'm confused on the lines
that we're drawing here.
I don't know, I don't evenremember where I was going with
that point.
No, but I don't even rememberwhere I was going with that
point.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
But there we are.
I write two characters, SpaceDuck and Robot, who have very
similar relationship to theChris Pratt character and his
robot buddy Very similar.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I thought you let them have sex.
No, there's no sex in my Igotcha, tony, you got me.
Nailed it.
Oh boy, yeah, no continue.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Everything is about this push and pull of.
You know, it's two characterswho are always, in a sense,
trying to get over on each other.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
And.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I just I wanted their relationship to be that where
it's this, where they areconstantly picking at each other
and trying to be the one who'syou know either the moral high
ground, or, you know, the biggersmart ass, or the whatever
You're just like.
Oh man, it never got there forme.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
No, it never got there and you know half of it,
you know, is Chris Pratt's fault, but that's fine.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Half of it is Chris Pratt's fault, or it's all Chris
Pratt's fault.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Well no, he didn't write the dialogue, so that
fault.
Or it's all chris pratt's fault?
Well no, he didn't write thedialogue, so that part's not his
fault, you know.
So he can't just act that.
That I don't know.
I listen.
Here's my thing about thismovie.
Um, I thought that both leadswere pretty dismal yeah uh, you
know chris pratt's doing hischris pratt thing but just, it

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feels like he's just kind ofcoasting, you know what I mean,
like he's not really giving itmuch effort.
I've seen star lord right,which is a very similar type of
character to me, and hedefinitely puts more into that.
This is very like.
I'm here, I don't really care,I'll say something witty with a
stupid wig on and then that's it, and then I'm going home for

(17:24):
the day.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I don't know well, that character is is not really
there, right?
Yeah, he's not there for theadventure.
He has no investment in itdoesn't even have a financial
investment in it.
Right, han solo, back in theday, had a financial investment,
you know, and, and thecircumstance you know, you.
You put the characters in thecircumstance where it's like I'm
han Han Solo, I'd rather bedoing something else, but now

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I'm stuck on the bad guy's shipor whatever, and I'm going to do
what's necessary to make thething happen.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
And I think they're trying to do that with giving
him the soldier background andthen her being like a good
person, because there's thescene where he decides to go
with her and he's like there aresome good people left in this
world.
But I haven't seen a worldwhere you feel like there are no
good people and that's why yougave up Like I didn't understand

(18:14):
.
It's not a clear motivation forme For his character.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
No.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Start the movie.
Start in the movie 1990, beforethe war Start the movie.
Start in the movie 1990, beforethe war, we meet this kid,
chris, who's Millie BobbyBrown's brother.
Her name is Michelle.
Oh, we get to ask the greatquestion.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
What's Chris Pratt's character's name?
Tony Herm's friend, Herm'sfriend.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
I don't know that they ever say his.
I didn't write it down throughthe whole movie.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I had to look it up this morning because I had no
idea what did it say when youlooked it up out of curiosity
his name is john no, I don'tthink that's right.
I think they're.
I think they didn't know who itwas so they.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
they just wrote John Doe Because that's it's not John
.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think I'd remember that.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
And Billy Bobby Brown's character's name is
Michelle, which they say anumber of times.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
They do say it a number of times and yet somehow
at the end, when the brothercalls her Michelle, I was like
who's Michelle?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't remember that at all.
It doesn't well, it doesn't fitwith her character.
She does not seem like aMichelle.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Neither of the Michelle and John, terrible
names for these characters.
I don't know, they're too bland.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
They're too like yeah , I don't, you got to give
characters names, right?
And then you have to establishthe names and then follow
through with the establishmentof the names.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Amen to that.
Do you think that I would becurious to look at a book of
names from the year that each ofthem were born in this movie?
I feel like maybe they just dida.
What was the number one namewhen that year was born?
That's the name.
I don't know, because it meansthere's no.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
She never looks like a Michelle.
Michelle is not what she.
Okay, we're going to talk abouther makeup.
Talk about her makeup, tony, doyou?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
think she did it herself.
Well, she's she's made up theentire movie.
Yeah, even when like she's Idon't I don't remember exactly
but like when she's at home withthe brother, yeah, she's like
all dolled up and I see you haveto make it look more natural.
And not that I know what I'mdoing, like I don't wear a ton

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of I wear stage makeup.
So I like I don't know anythingabout home makeup, but you know
why is she sitting at homewatching tv with her brother?
Why she's, like, dressed to thenines full face.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, it's weird and I don't
notice makeup ever and I wasjust like what is?

Speaker 2 (20:41):
going on on.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
She's a foster child of trouble, but she's like
perfect.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
They kind of try to give her hair at times.
I like the blonde what they did.
That was very 90s.
I felt that was nice.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, but her having a full face all the time, that's
meticulous, this kind of a nudelip, and you're just like what
is happening.
Okay, so this kid is like thesmartest kid in the world.
They give him this test andhe's smarter than Einstein.
Okay, he goes outside, bumpsinto an ROTC kid and he's like

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watch out.
Why are you wearing a t-shirtthat has a robot on it?
Robots are the enemy.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
You should die yeah, so my and this, this is my
biggest problem with this movie.
Yeah, not just like this scene,but the anti-robot sentiment,
yes, that they feel at thismoment, yes, and then that they
feel it with jason, with JasonAlexander in the house.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
That would not go away at the end of this movie.
No, and they're acting as if itis going away at the end of the
movie.
Yes, and that's a problemBecause they've set up a world
where it's like discriminationagainst robots.
Robot slavery Like this doesn'tgo away in one one day.
This is not.

(22:07):
We are humans.
We are awful, awful creatures.
This is you have you've createda no-win situation in the first
part of your movie and then youtry to just, you know, fix it
at the end.
Nope, doesn't work, doesn'twork.
So that's my bit, like mybiggest problem.
I was just annoyed at the endof this movie.
I was like are you that's it?
That's you, that's your bigplan?
That's what's gonna fix theworld.

(22:27):
Go fuck yourself.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Well what, what we find?
Well, okay, we'll get to that,sorry, sorry so she's like, he's
like I don't want to go tocollege and she's like you
should go to college and thenI'll visit you in college.
Did you think that they werelovers, or did you think they
were family?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
You know, I don't even think.
I thought about it much, okay,but that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I could see where it would go either way to be honest
with you, I thought they wereboyfriend and girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sure, that's what.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I thought, I did not think that they were brothers.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I could see that going that way, you know you got
to throw something in.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Hey, sis, you know.
Hey, hey sis.
Hey bro, How'd it?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
go, you got to tell us those things instantaneously.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Hey bro, How's your big old brain, Bro.
You got such a big old brain,Sis.
You're going to change theworld with your speeches you
give on the TV.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Which are terrible.
I don't totally understand it.
Never once does she feel likeshe's the person to change the
world.
Just throwing that out there.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Now we meet Ethan Skate, terrible name.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
It's such a weird Mr Skate.
What, what are we doing?
That's so weird and I don'tknow why I hate it so much.
But every time they called himMr Skate, I was like he needs to
be wearing roller skates.
If you give your villain MrSkate, he has to pay it off,
because otherwise it's justgoing to bother me every time

(23:50):
you say it.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
He has to pay it off, so he's never trusted robots.
And then what we find out isthat the robots Disney made the
robots.
They became the globalworkforce and then they got

(24:18):
angry and they are led by MrPeanut in a war against humanity
where people can put on VRhelmets and be VR robots and the
VR robots are better thanrobots.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, and I guess I mean we don't really talk about
why, but would it be like humanintuition that makes them better
?
You know, because we alwaystalk about how, like the AI,
pilots are never going to be asgood as like human pilots
because they don't have theinstincts, even though they'll
be safer, they don't have likethe.
You know, I don't knowsomething of those lines.

(24:53):
They don't really talk about it.
I was just trying to figure itout myself that's what they did
in ender's game, right?

Speaker 1 (24:59):
isn't that the whole idea with him?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
and it's the whole idea, yeah and it works spoiler
alert if you've never read thebook from a hundred years ago.
Uh, he's not really playing agame and it's.
It's awesome.
Yeah, it's.
That book is so good.
I know we hate orson scott cardand that's fine, he's a d-bag.
That book is so good and verymuch about inclusion.
So fuck him in his real life.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
That book is amazing um, and that's yeah, that's the
whole thing.
Is we?
We set up a thing that this onesort of better mind, working
with a bunch of other incredibleminds, is able to, to work on
it, work out a system to win?
Yeah, this thing.
The idea is that if we can vrinto a robot, then we can fight

(25:42):
the robots doesn't make any.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
It doesn't make any sense, especially when you watch
the battles and you're likeokay, but they're not
outsmarting the robots in anyway, shape or form, they're
marching right up in front ofthem.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, they're just less.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
They're just not human anymore, so like if they
die, it doesn't matter.
Is that why we're?
Because I don't know, I don'tget it, I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
And Mr.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Peanut can pick up a gun and shoot a human in the
head.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
With no remorse.
Well, the whole idea is do youknow what Asimov's three laws
are?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
iRobot with Will Smith.
Yeah, that's all I remember.
No, I don't know the actualrules.
I don't remember what they are.
I can't do harm.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
You can't do harm or through inaction cause harm.
Basically, you set up the ideathat you always, if you're going
to make an AI, you're going tohave programming in there so
that it doesn't shoot humanbeings in the head or let human
beings get shot in the head.
That's the whole thing and itmakes sense.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
When did he write those books?
Was it before 1990?
When did he write those books?
Was it before 1990?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
because maybe he just hadn't written them yet in this
, in this world he kind of wrotethem in, I believe the 40s and
50s, I'm sure by the 50s.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Okay, so he was ahead of the game he did it when
disney was making the robots.
I see he predates disney makingthe robots.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes, audio animatronics, not rocket and
roll, and intel after asimov'sthree laws.
And those three laws just makeit so you can properly explore
AI, because human beings are notgoing to make a thing that,
when they click on the switch,pulls out a gun and shoots them
in the head.
We're not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I don't know, because they make a machine with three
buttons that just kill people ifyou push those three buttons.
Maybe it was the order too.
Maybe she has to do it left orright, I don't know Got to do it
in the right order, or he lives.
Or he's totally fine.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
And so this Ethan guy , he's made up the thing, and so
then what happens?
But in addition to all that,everybody in the world gets
their own robot somehow.
yeah and they get to put on ahelmet and then half of their
brain goes into making the robotgo and do their job for them,

(27:58):
and then the other half of theirbrain gets to go and live on a
beach or construct a world inwhich their mom was nice to them
, or have sex with beautifulgirls 24-7.
Oh, you think that's whatthey're doing in there.
That's all they're doing,truthfully.
Those other two things I saidis never happening.
They're having sex with abeautiful girl.

(28:18):
Every guy is only doing that.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Actually, you're right, because Jason Alexander
is doing that right.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
He's like.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I'm on the beach with Cindy Crawford or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
He says something stupid like that.
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
So you're absolutely right, I hate this.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I hate this so much.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Why do you hate it?
And then I want to talk aboutwhy I hate it.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I hate it because we have a TV show called Severance
that's exploring the idea ofyou're basically being in two
places with the same person andexploring it in a way.
That is some of the mostinteresting ways to think about
this thing.
And then we have a show, blackMirror, that also constantly

(28:57):
explores all of these kind ofthings, and this thing pauses
the thing and then explores itabsolutely zero, and there's no
reason for it why it.
Never once does somebody needto split their brain into two
things one to go to work and oneto live in a vr existence.
Never once does that come intoplay right because?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
so, because here's my thing.
Right, like, let's do the jasonalexander example.
He's a shitty stepfather, yep,and he is spending his time with
cindy crawford on the beach orsomething.
He's somewhere with cindycrawford terrible choice, by the
way, but why does he even needthe localized robot personality?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
because he's not watching the kid no, he yells at
the kid with the localizedrobot no, I, I know what he does
, but that's completelyunnecessary.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, like that doesn't.
He could just be in a VR worldand she'd be like Tim, whatever
his name was.
What are you doing?
I'm doing this, hello, and thenhe doesn't respond because he's
not doing anything as the robot.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
He's not making money , he's not going to work because
he's getting the state fundedchecks for having a kid and he's
like, oh, do you play aninstrument?
We get extra money for that,extra money for this, which is a
.
That's a fine thing to do and,you know, it's an interesting
thing to not explore, but Idon't see a point for him having
the robot at all.
Nope, just so that she could bemenaced by a robot in the show.

(30:29):
Right, because we have to notlike robots.
But it's not the robot, he'sactually a human, it's dumb.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
This is see the robots are, see that's.
The other thing is, they'resetting up that the robots are
good and humans are bad.
But then you're like thenyou're what you're.
What I was expecting the plotof this movie would be was that
the robots weren't bad and thatMr Skeet made us think that the
robots were bad so that he couldprovide the solution.

(30:53):
Well, that's what you have todo.
That has to be the plot.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
That's the only way it makes real sense to be honest
with you.
But I mean, listen, they'reslaves and they're like uprising
.
It's fine, but it's never goingto get resolved.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
But they're never going to uprise in a way that's
killing people Right, exactly Ahundred percent.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Okay, let's talk about my confusion on the VR
thing, and you can explain it tome, because you've watched all
these other things you said withseverance, and then the black
mirror and stuff, and maybe yourbrain works better than me.
How does this thing work?
I don't understand it because,um, he can't do both of those
things simultaneously and becognizant of both oh, it says

(31:35):
that in the thing.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, in the movie it says that, that he can't do
those things he can't he can'tjust do both things no, I
understand that.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
It says that I'm asking because so you know,
remember that test where you rubyour belly and you pat your
head.
There's so many people thatcan't do that.
And that's just two opposingthings that are very simple.
If I'm doing two very, verylike brain heavy operations
simultaneous, I can't do thatwell how does that work?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
it doesn't work.
That's why it's stupid.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Okay, well, that's why I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Because what they do in severance is you lead two
existences right.
So for eight hours a day.
You make memories and dofunctions in this one sphere and
do functions in this one sphereand then it switches.
So basically, you have a bonuspersonality existence that goes

(32:35):
to the dentist right Sure yeah,so I.
Dan Goodsell sitting here.
I'm like I had a great dayyesterday, no dentist, and then
if I were to switch, I'd be likeI'm Dan Goodsell, I get to go
to the dentist.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'm always in the dentist, and then if I were to
switch, I'd be like I'm DanGoodsell I get to go to the
dentist, I'm always in thedentist I have to fix the tire.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
And that's what's so annoying about this thing is
they set up this central conceitthat no one wants to be doing
their job or living that part oftheir existence.
And with the Severance TV show,that is not true.
Only a very particular sort ofpeople who are going through
stuff and have reasons forwanting to do this.

(33:13):
Most of the rest of us.
I worked lots and lots.
I enjoyed going to work.
Would I have rather donesomething else?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Sure, but not necessarily right, not all the
time.
Right like it's.
I enjoy work.
I like going to work.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I don't know you you learn things there, you do
things there, you feel you havesuccesses there, you know you
have co-workers.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
You know, you meet people, you have socialization,
which is obviously.
They don't do that in thismovie at all.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, because we go into school at one point and all
the kids put on their VRheadsets and she's like I'm not
going to do it.
And you're like, well, ifthat's the only way you can
learn is by putting on a VRheadset, you kind of there's no
other option.
Yeah, I guess, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
And here's the good news is all those people super
addicted to their screens, rightas as we are in general, but at
the end we're just gonna takethem all away and no one's gonna
be upset about it.
So that's the good news.
Everyone's like you're right, Idon't need this screen that I'm
completely addicted to 24 hoursa day.
Here you go trash heap, dumbmovie, dumb movie.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
No resolution to this movie and, more importantly,
who the fuck pays for all ofthis well so.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
So that was a question that I had as well,
because there's, uh, you know, avery kind, I'm assuming, uh
homeless gentleman at one pointin the movie this one point
where there's a homelessgentleman laying in the street,
they're laying right laying onthe sidewalk, plugged in to a vr
thing and he has a robot stephe's a robot there too.

(34:48):
He's yep, he sure does yep, andI don't.
Okay, just tell, tell me moreabout this situation movie,
because I'm curious.
I'm curious and what's going onis so is it like a drug?
Are we like comparing this tolike drugs?
We're like you?
No, no, I I'm.
I'm not asking you, I'm askingthe movie, because they do not
do a good job of exploring thisat all, but they're just like,

(35:08):
hey, this is a fun idea thatcould happen in this world.
See you later.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Just make it VR headsets.
Don't give everybody a freerobot.
Then you're like oh okay.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
These weird.
We need to come up with adifferent design for these, and
I assume they look like whateverhe drew, hold on.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Wouldn't you want to be having that on your head 16
hours a day?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
No, it looks so front heavy, dan.
I feel like I'd be looking downall the time trying to hold my
damn head up, because it's sixfeet long on the front end where
the glass is.
I don't think that that'scomfortable at all.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
We do a two-hour show here where I have to put these
headphones on.
You know what I'm happy to doafter two hours.
Take these, take them off takethese very.
I mean, they're not thelightest headphones in the world
, don't get me wrong.
Sure, but these are very lightby comparison to headphones of
the past.
Yeah, I don't like having theseon my head, I would not want to
put a I put a vr thing half anhour a day.

(36:02):
Maybe that would be my.
I couldn't put that on eighthours, I would die.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I would literally die .
I've put on VR headsets and Ifeel this way already and
they're only like six inches Idon't know how big six inches is
, but they're here and I feellike they're too heavy on my
head and I'm like boy, I wishsomething was holding this up
for me and holding this up forme, and if it's, if it's another

(36:28):
five feet on the top, I like Ican't do it, I refuse.
And they pull like on the backof your and they like you know
they they're very uncomfortableand maybe they fixed it somehow,
but I don't think so.
People, they don't look goodpeople do not like being.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
You know what people are gonna do.
They're gonna put the headseton.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
They're gonna have sex with the virtual thing, not,
not that I understand how thatworks well, I mean you don't, I
mean listen, we could get, wecould get pretty deep into this
topic it's just like a three,you know, like what you remember
um uh stallone demolition manyeah, where they both put.

(37:01):
It's the same.
They put both put on vr glassesand that's them like doing it,
but they're not doing anythingin the physical world and he's
like takes it off and he's likewhat the fuck?
Oh, sex, what is going on?
Great, first of all, thatmovie's great.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
This movie sucks demolition man, you know, okay,
we're not going to get into that.
Okay, so mine in two places1994.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Now, okay, so 94 after the war, that's the chyron
that we get here.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
So in four years we've had a war.
We've somehow also built allthese robots to fight the war
after we were losing the war,which what losing the war means,
who knows?
And now she's, her family'sdead.
They've gotten a car accidentthey hit a deer, I think and she
is in foster care.

(37:52):
Jason Alexander, in one of themost questionable casting
choices of all time.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Oh, I'm so glad you feel that way.
I thought I was just being.
You know how sometimes I get,uh, biased against fat people.
Oh yeah, because I'm jealous ofthem, and I was like, am I?
Is this one of those momentswhere I'm like, wow, I could do
this part better, because I lovejason alexander.
He is not menacing, nope, or hedoes.

(38:20):
He does not fit this characterwhatsoever.
There's never a moment whereI'm like, oh yeah, this guy's a
scumbag.
Oh boy, I don't.
I'm just like what's JasonAlexander doing?
This is weird.
This is a weird thing.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
If you're going to make Jason Alexander into a
monster stepdad, you're going tohave to spend an entire movie
doing it.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
And you're going to have to.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
He's going to have to be in a script that is
completely non-cut.
It's like you watch AdamSandler in Uncut Gems.
I only made it about halfwaythrough.
This is an intense movie, he'sgreat, this is an Academy Award
winning, he can perform.
He shows us that he can perform.
He is this fucking guy.
I don't want to spend any timewith this guy.

(39:02):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
No, thank you, sorry, sorry thank you, sorry, sorry,
adam, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, god bless him, it's good for him.
Yeah, 100%.
That shows you're an actor.
And we know he has the comedicchops, we know he has the acting
chops.
He just makes a lot of verylazy decisions most of the time.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I don't know, if they're lazy, they're monetarily
driven, I would say, or youknow, the guy just likes to have
fun.
Listen, if someone's going togive you, you know, $100 million
, probably $50 million, right, Idon't know $50 million, and
it's just like do whatever youwant with your friends, I don't
care, You're not going to trythat hard.
You're going to be like whatcan we do?

(39:41):
That will be fun for us, that'snot what I'm ever going to do.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I'm always going to want to try to create the thing
that I want to create in thebest way that I can.
I do not want to.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Wow, that's true.
I mean, yeah, I'm not going towant to watch myself in a shit
performance while I'm editingthis thing.
They don't watch themselves Alot of these big actors.
They never rewatch their ownwork.
You know what I do, you don't?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
You know what I do, Tony when I'm feeling bad, I
pick up my own books and I readthem to feel better about myself
.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
But does that work?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Because I do the same thing but for the opposite
reason, Works every time when.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I'm feeling down about myself.
I watch some of the stuff I'vedone in the past.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
I'm like.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
God, you're such a piece shit.
You fucking suck.
That's how that works out forme.
No, I'm incredible for you.
I'm incredible.
I know that incredible.
What's not to like?

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I don't know because I've been creating exactly what
I want for sure and I'mcompletely pleased with it and I
, you know, I look at it and,like you know, I make
adjustments, but it's like nope,this is this is, this is what
I'm trying to do.
This is exact, you know.
I mean, if I could paintanything in the world, any way,
I could.
Yeah, there's things I would do, right, sure, but with the

(40:51):
skills that I have, I createwhat it is that I can create.
That's going to make me happy.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
And that's great.
The fact that, a you know whatthat is and, b that you are
capable of doing it, that'spretty great.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
And I was talking to our Australian friend Jules
about this, about we've, we, wehave.
We have discussions about AIall the time and he thinks
there's going to be these toolsthat come in there and and are
able to let you pre-visualizethings and do stuff and blah,
blah, blah, blah blah and I'mlike I know they're not going to

(41:22):
.
That's not going to happen,because I know when you're
working with a person you knowTodd and I worked on comics
together and I would send himwhat I would do I do my Mr Toast
comics.
What I would do is I would drawlittle thumbnails and I would
plot out the whole 32 pages.
Then what I would do is I wouldthen make a script based on my

(41:43):
little things and I wouldn'tsend him anything I drew.
Nothing, absolutely nothing,because I knew that what he was
going to do was add his hundredsof layers of illustration
skills and comedic skills andthen send me back something, and
occasionally we would have alittle thing that we would need
to tweak, but very rarelybecause he's a pro.

(42:07):
I was a pro what I was doing atthat exact moment, and it's like
when we've worked together onstuff, it's like when we did the
all-star death star show, we'dsend you a thing and you would
send us back a thing which was10 times better because you had
added your layers on there.
And then we just we do themassages and we'd do the little
tweaks and boom, you would havesomething that you were just

(42:28):
perfectly proud of, and AI isnever going to be able to do
that.
Yeah, that's true, I agree withthat, because you're not going
to have the pile of a trackrecord that the person does.
There's this one guy that doesrole-playing game illustrations
and booklets and things and Ijust love his work so much and

(42:49):
I'm like I'm gonna try to figureout a way to maybe work with
him at some point and I'm like Iknow, when I work with him,
everything he's going to send.
You know, if I was to send himwhat I want and then he sends it
back, it would just be amazing.
You would just be like thisperfect total.
Yeah, for sure and I thinkthat's what you know and I've
talked about Severance beforealready on this show is those

(43:16):
guys know what they want.
And they work with a greatcinematographer and they work
with great production designpeople and they work with great
actors and everybody has.
You know, there's stuff that'sgoing on in their brain and
you're like okay, this is why Ilove the show.
It's because it's so personal.
Then this movie is just.
It felt like it was.
You know, ai rewrote a realthing but made it acceptable to

(43:39):
this algorithm and thatalgorithm.
You know it's like is this acomedy?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
I think they're supposed to be like an, you know
, action comedy not, I guess,not quite action comedy, but
yeah, I think there's comedicelements too and at the end, a
girl has to murder her brother.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
You gotta set us up for that.
This is, you know.
No, no, no, because otherwiseit's not as emotional.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
You got to set us up for that.
This is no.
No, because otherwise it's notas emotional.
You know what I mean?
We want to just spring it onyou at the last second and then
not make it make a lot of sense,so you just have to be like why
is this happening?
What's going on?
Oh, he's dead.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Okay, great, I'm sorry but you have to, but you
have to you.
That is a big tonal shift ofspending this time to find your
brother, only to have him sayplease kill me.
And then you kill him.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, I mean if, if, if we had an inkling that that
was, if we knew that that wasprobably going to happen, and
she learns it.
Great, that works for me.
She learns it great, that worksfor me.
But if we're all learning it inthe last four minutes of the
movie and you're just like, well, because you know, because

(44:51):
that's what has happened, you'relike, but what?
Because because you gotta, yougotta, you gotta do it beat the
bad guy.
It's the only way you gotta doit.
Why?
Why is that?
It doesn't make you say he justescaped his brain, just escaped
you.
It doesn't even make any sense.
If, how can his brain?
It does?
And that's my biggest problemgood job, tony.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Um, she goes to see the counselor.
We have a flashback to her andher brother at the beach and the
brother has a panic attack I'mlike, okay, don't worry, dan,
that'll come up later in themovie.
Oh, does it okay, sure doesn'tflashback to hitting the deer.
Uh, she wakes up screaming inthe alley.

(45:38):
Oh, she hears some screaming inthe alley.
She goes outside and thenthere's this roaring monster
robot that clanks into the houseand he can't talk.
So she fixes him, so he cankind of talk, but he just talks
sort of in catchphrases of thecharacter can't give him a pen

(46:00):
to write something on a piece ofpaper nah, robots can't write.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
That character doesn't know how to write.
I don't know cuz dan cuz.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
That's the answer, because we don't want to tell
you what's going on.
Okay, we're gonna keep ithidden, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
So I mean they definitely wanted to make it
like a cute thing, right, like Ithink it's supposed to be
endearing that he's like I onlyspeak in catchphrases, I'm
adorable, I think.
I just don't think it works.
And it would maybe work if itwas real catchphrases that we
knew and we could, like, put ourown.

(46:39):
If, like, there's some sort ofnostalgia to it for the 90s, my
another big problem I have withthis movie is, for a movie
that's set in 1990, the greatest10 years of my life, there is
nothing that makes me go, oh God, I miss the 90s.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, well, because it's not the 90s.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
But that's like.
Sure, it's an alternate versionof the 90s, but some things
would remain the same, rightyeah?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
But some of them wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Big Mouth Bass.
Sure, big Mouth Bass was prettyfunny, but do you have any
other ones?

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Well, I mean, they had a bunch of things in there.
They had Spam in the thing,they had Twister Game, yeah, but
I mean Spam's just cool all thetime.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Spam is delicious and it lasts forever, so they're
just doing a good job there.
That has nothing To me.
That has nothing to do with the90s, I don't know.
I just I didn't feel anynostalgic pull for a movie
that's set in 1990s, which is atime frame that I frequently
wish that we lived in now.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
No, because this movie is not about.
Although we talk aboutnostalgia a little bit, it's not
about nostalgia at all.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Right, and it should be.
There should be some of that,because that's how you will draw
me into this world.
Sure, because right now thisworld is gobbledygook.
It's nonsense.
You have robots that were madea hundred years ago.
No, you don't.
They rose up because you werekeeping them as slaves.
Great Good for them.
I agree with them.
I'm not.
I have no attachment to thisworld or the characters or

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anything.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Oh, because we never spend any time in this world.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, it's a problem, it's a big problem, I don't
know.
Yeah, I'm just disappointed.
When I saw the trailer, I waslike, oh, this will be like a
fun 90s joyride, and it's not.
No, the reason why, for me,ready Player One isn't just an
extreme pile of garbage is thenostalgia, like the movie isn't

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that good.
No, it's not the story, thebook isn't even.
I did enjoy the book a lot, butit's not like oh, wow, it's
written so well, oh, the plot'sso great.
It's not.
It's just like oh, look at allthis fun shit that he's put his
own spin on.
And I'm right back into allthose things.
Oh, I love Donkey Kong.
Oh, I love like, that's whatyou need.

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That's what this movie needs todo.
It wants to be Ready Player Onebut it is not it's so
desperately, but it's just, itdoes nothing.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
The ended up being nostalgic to make a ready player
one movie, which was a moviethat I think made some money but
nobody's like.
Oh man, remember you know wetalk about die hard and we're
like die hard great movie, greatmovie, great movie and then
nobody's like.
You know, when I was a kidready player one was the movie
that changed the needle that Idon't.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I don't believe it I and I, you know I doubt it, but
again, like the book, I love thebook.
I've read the book severaltimes.
Well, the second book like I, Ienjoyed the book more than I
enjoyed the movie.
Sure, which is fine, yeah, um,but again, it is.
It's something that I thinkabout from time to time.
The book, yeah, you know,because it's good, it's fun.
What I don't know, well, that's, this is not something I will

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ever think about again in therest of my life.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
But that's the thing about the book and the movie is
it's for you, it's a nostalgia,it's it's a nostalgia bump for
people like you.
It's not for kids that are likeoh look, there's ultraman,
there's the iron giant they'relike yes, no, you're absolutely
right.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
You're absolutely right.
Yeah, well, this movie's for noone, so, so I guess it has that
going for it.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Literally for no one.
Okay, okay, so she's got thething, then they're gonna go.
She fights with her stepdad andthen she leaves.
She tases him, they steal hiscar.
She doesn't know, know how todrive, but that's not a problem.

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She drives until she gets aflat.
I guess.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Yeah, that was weird, I don't know.
Yeah, the spare strangedecision.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
the spare is also flat, but then she looks in
there and she realizes thatthere's these boxes from someone
that he ordered, stuff that wasstolen from the exclusion zone,
and she needs to go to theexclusion zone because she
realizes that the person they'relooking for is the doctor that

(51:00):
treated them after With glassesthe doctor with glasses the
doctor with glasses that treatedthem after the car crash.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Okay, so they go to New Mexico somehow I don't even
remember, and here I don't knowand the PO box is on this
deserted street and they'rethere exactly at the moment that
Chris Pratt's character, john,shows up.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Are you sure, did we double check this, dan I?

Speaker 1 (51:30):
looked it up.
It's pretty funny because Ilooked it up on Google first and
you know how when you do themovies, you do the cast search.
It has all the cast there.
Yeah, yeah, no name under hischaracter.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
You're kidding me?
No, so nobody knows enough tocare the guy doing that didn't
even put it in.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
He's like I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
I'm not going to take two seconds to look it up.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
So they're there at the literal exact moment that he
shows up to check his PO boxand then have a failed
interaction of trying to sell apistol to a random dude who's in
his robot suit.
For how much money, Tony?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Was this the one that was $25,000?
$50,000.
It was $20,000 or $25,000.
Something, yeah, something.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Some unimaginably large sum of money right Like
this is the 90s.
If you're selling something for20k, you're set you, you are?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
you're a rock and roller.
It doesn't seem like it becausehe's not set.
He's poor in a weird way.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah he's.
He's got a gigantic warehouseof collectibles, so somehow he
has your dream warehouse, let'sthis is what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I was like man damn, we go crazy with all this
paraphernalia.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
No, I'd be making I'd have six people working for a
if you had that much merchandise, sure you would have multiple
people listing for you.
I remember back in the day whenebay was cooking um a lot of
people.
Is it not cooking anymore?
It's cooking differently.
Um interesting because for somepeople like if you're dealing

(53:10):
in something that you get inlarge quantities, like comic
books or something like that,but a lot of other collectibles.
You, just you can't buy enough.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Oh sure, Consistently in large amounts dealt in.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
he deals in all sorts of stuff, but he had a friend
that dealt in automotive um adsand advertising and manuals and
books and basically he'd spentall this time growing up, you
know, buying all this stuff andat the height of ebay.
He had like eight or ten peopleworking for him who were just
listing all this stuff that he'daccumulated over 20 or 50 years

(53:47):
or whatever.
And at a certain point, youknow, ebay slowed down on that
material and he had to fireeverybody and they were all gone
.
But there was a point where youhave a gigantic inventory and
the people the comic book people, I'm sure you know, and the
action figure people that havebig stores, employ two or three
or four or five people toconstantly sell stuff because
they have stuff walking thevideo, you know, the video games

(54:09):
, the comics and the actionfigures.
That shit walks in the doorconstantly in those places, I
mean yeah, I mean, that makessense.
And I thought about it becauseyou know, I remember when I got
rid of all my video games.
You get rid of them all at onceand you're just like, okay, I'm
done with this, I'm moving on,because you grow up yeah, you
can't be like a sad personPlaying, you know, disney

(54:30):
Princess Adventure In theirbasement, you know, with no life
.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Don't slander the gate, don't pretend it's Disney
Dreamlight Valley.
That's a totally different vibe.
I mean, I do have a lot ofprincesses In my valley, sure.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Are they your concubines?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
No, there's no.
This isn't like a StardewValley where you get to marry
anybody.
But if I did, it would beJasmine Really.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I think everybody would agree Jasmine's your girl.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Is she not someone else's?
Come on, she's the bestMaleficent, not the new one,
preferably Angelina Jolie, asMaleficent Sure.
Which one is Maleficent fromSleeping Beauty, sleeping Beauty
.
So that's not what Gal Gadot isplaying.

(55:19):
Oh no, she's playing.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
She's the evil queen.
She's the wicked witch.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah, the mirror, mirror on the wall, that's her.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
She looks hot.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I was getting confused.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
She looks hot half the time and then is a crone the
other half of the time.
I guess that movie is doingreally well.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, it doesn't.
I don't read any of thearticles that pop up.
I keep getting like trouble inparadise.
This movie is bad.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
I don't know, I don't know what's going on, but we're
probably going to watch it.
They canceled the premiere.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Which is, you don't want that In a long list of
things you want to happen.
That's not going to be on.
That's bad.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
I guess they had like a, the dwarves were like this
woke, perfect group of people,but they weren't dwarves, and so
now they made them intohorrible CGI monster dwarves.
Oh no, really, I don't know.
I just saw a thing about itthis morning and I was like, oh
dear.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Clearly I should be reading more articles that pop
up, because now I am veryintrigued.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Okay.
So this guy tries to rip himoff.
They shoot him with anelectrical beam and then,
whatever, this gives MillieBobby Brown and her robot
brother a chance to sneak intotheir truck.
They drive to his secretlocation that has an elevator
down to a secret cave, some sortof a bunker, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Oh wait.
So they're trying to get intothe exclusion zone, which is the
place where they locked up therobots after they defeated them.
Tony, talk to me about lockingup the robots after you defeat
them.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Do none of the robots fly Is my first question,
because the wall isn't that bigand I've seen World War Z so
they could just stack on top ofeach other, even if they don't
fly.
Robots can just stack theirmetal, they can just stack and
just walk out of the thing.
So I just have general problemswith that situation, but also

(57:18):
like why and it's like theentirety of a giant desert.
So this wall, is thousands andhundreds of thousands of miles
long and why?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
are you locking them up in a gigantic idea Like what?
I'm sorry, but I know whathumans would do.
They would turn them all off,they would take out their AI
brains and they would stomp onevery one of their AI brains.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
You're darn right.
I would Okay, because they'remachines, they don't really die.
Right Like you could just buildanother one.
I don't know how it works.
It's weird.
I don't understand.
I don't understand.
It doesn't make any senseBecause, like Army of the Dead
makes a little sense, theyquarantine a city that the
zombies are already in so thatthe zombies just can't get out.

(58:04):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (58:05):
So that the zombies just can't get out.
Why would you just kill themall?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Because they couldn't just kill them all the zombies.
Okay, have you not seen themovie?

Speaker 1 (58:13):
I tried to watch that movie.
It was so terrible.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I love that movie.
I think it's silly fun, butthis is like we built walls and
then we ushered the robots in.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yeah, we locked them up.
Why would we do that?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
we put them in robot jail like maybe if we were, you
know, back to slaving them upand we were just putting them to
work in some way, sure, like Iguess, I guess that makes sense.
But we're not doing that.
They just, they just arecongregating in shopping malls.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
I don't I don't know how these robots have.
I don't understand.
How do these robots have power?
How do they have oil?
How do they have parts?

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yeah, sure, great, because Chris Pratt barely has
power, but they have tons of it.
I don't know, man, I don'tunderstand it.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
It's almost like it doesn't make any sense and they
haven't worked out any of therules of the stupid world
they've created.
If you don't work out the youknow like the rule.
That's.
The thing is, I watched yourstupid zombie heist movie, the
army of the dead.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Well, you just said you don't watch all of it, so be
careful.
I got very boring.
Um, oh my God.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Whatever At least they contained an acceptable
amount of space.
I'm like I buy that.
I like I didn't sit throughthat movie and go like it
doesn't make any sense.
Why would they do that?
I was like that's a weird thingto do.
Whatever, it didn't horriblybother me, it wouldn't be my
move.
But yes, my problems with thatmovie are more are just as a

(59:38):
movie, as a terrible, zackSnyder movie, but you know you
didn't go like nobody thoughtabout.
You know what any of this means.
I'm like it's acceptable.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
We allow a lot as viewers right, we sure do, and
when you go too far that'sridiculous.
But sorry, continue.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Everything in this movie is too far.
You're just like come on, thisdoesn't make any sense.
Yeah, so they're down there.
We have one bit where he'stalking about somebody's name
being veronica and the otherother robots says veronica I.
I like the idea of that bit,but you have to.

(01:00:16):
You have to go far, man.
You have to works.
I don't know, man, you reallyneed to have some vicious
chemistry to get bits like thatgoing well, unfortunately they
don't have chemistry they don'thave any chemistry.
Is that part of the problem?

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
it is definitely part of the problem.
There's a video of um chrispratt and millie bobby brown
doing 90s nostalgia items orsomething like that and they're
like show them something andthen they talk about it exactly.
And you know, the whole thingis like oh, she doesn't know
anything because she's shewasn't born then.

(01:00:52):
And then chris pratt's like youdon't know anything, blah, blah
, blah, but like you watch itand he looks visibly annoyed
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
He has to do this with her.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I?
I don't know if it's that hehas to do it or if he's just
like I'm so sick of being withthis, I don't know.
But they don't have like a funrapport in the video and this
was a promotional tool for themovie and I was like, oh, they
are not going to be goodtogether on screen because we're
watching them in real life andthey can't like I'm not having
fun with them at all.
I feel like I'm in a room whereI'm like we need to get out of

(01:01:25):
here because someone's going tofight.
We got to go.
This isn't fun.
This is uncomfortable.
I'm going to my bedroom.
So it was doomed.
It was doomed from the start.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
So they finally discover them and they're like
what are you doing here?
And then, right at that moment,the elevator starts coming down
again and here comes thebutcher who?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
is played by.
Why was the elevator back onthe surface, can I just ask you?
Because elevators don'tnormally just return to a place,
don't they stay where they werethe last time, so I could take
it back up, you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
it's almost like instead of the Veronica bit you
could have run a bit where he'slike.
Why the fuck is that elevatorgoing up and the robot's?

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
like where's?

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
it going what?
You're supposed to lock thatdown?
Because they did a whole bitwith him unplugging his
refrigerator, which was supposedto make them.
Look at the crate that theyjust brought back down because
there were candy bars in it andit was just like, okay, that's a
stretch of a bit.
But I could have written a greatbit for that.
He's like why didn't you lockdown the elevator?

(01:02:30):
I did lock it down.
No, you did not lock it down.
And then you know, and there'sthe as as he's coming down,
they're like how did you get inour elevator?
And he's like I just overrunyour system and you know, giving
him powers and showing that hecould do things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Oh, I'm smart.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Oh, I'm a nefarious villain they're in trouble
because he's better than them atthis yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
So just in general, the bad guys are cooler than the
heroes in this movie.
How did?
And I just mean as actors howdid you like giancarlo?
I did not like him I, I likehim just because he's scared,
he's like a, he's like superintense, no matter what he does.
You know, and I was just like.
I prefer that over ch ChrisPratt's blandness or the void

(01:03:12):
that is Millie Bobby Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
I hated, so he would be third, I think of the bad guy
in Avatar, the first Avatarmovie, that guy with the Stephen
what's his?
Name.
He seems like a psycho.
He seems like a military psychohe seems like a military psycho
that would be in charge ofsomething.
He seems like a military psychoyou would not want to cross.

(01:03:35):
Giancarlo seems like he's goodat what he does, but there's
nothing.
He never made me afraid.
I wasn't like oh, this guy, youknow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yeah, I get that.
My biggest problem is his turnat the end was unbelievable, and
that's not his fault, it's justthe character that they've they
created.
Yeah, like and we could talkabout that more later but I
don't know he never felt like hewas going through anything?
No, no, for sure not.
I don't think he did.
Well, I guess he didtechnically, because he did

(01:04:07):
change sides a little bit.
But you know, like StanleyTucci's fun yeah, Because he's a
nut job.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
He seems crazy.
He seems like the corporate guy.
He's as good an actor as you'reever going to get on the planet
.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Ever, ever, ever yeah .

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
He's so good, yeah, so he shoots up the place and
then they're trying to escapeand then they they try and jump
in the mine cars and you're like, oh, mine cars.
And then he immediately shootsthe mine cars and they fall off
and I was like this is the firsttime this movie has surprised
me oh yeah, there you go thatwas surprised did it, then
surprise you that almost nothinghappens after that well, then

(01:04:45):
they hit him with another thingand then they escape, yeah, yeah
, and they go out there, shootsthe cart, they escape, but then
they have to go.
They're gonna have to go 300miles.
Herm has this big body, he getsinto, he carries a van, carries
them in it, um, and then we doa whole thing about somebody
saying everybody lets you down.
And we set up.
That's chris pratt saying.
Chris pratt says everybody letsyou down, we set up.

(01:05:06):
That's Chris Pratt saying it.
Chris Pratt says everybody letsyou down.
So what that means is ChrisPratt has to let her down or she
has to let Chris Pratt down Inthe movie that is his arc.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Or let me counter pitch they don't or not, you
decide which one you want, butthat's my counter.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
You know, in improv you write lines randomly and
then when the other person hearsthe line like why are you
always such a dick to me, then Iam the biggest dick in the
world to Tony.
The rest of the scene Right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Or you ignore that thing and do your own idea.
That's improv, baby.
That's how improv really workswhen it's at its greatest is
when you ignore the things thatother people set up.
And you just do your own thing,because that's what people want
to see.
Super fun, yeah, it's reallygreat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
He talks about how the two of them met.
Him and his robot buddy, herm,met in the war and then they
became friends.
Herm saved him for unknowablereasons, and then they came and
the guys that were going to tryto kill herm just decided they
were also going to kill a humanbeing right, john, right, so the
story doesn't make a lot ofjohn.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
His name's not john, I don't care how many times you
say it, it doesn't make a lot ofsense, right, like his
backstory.
When he's telling me the story,I'm like what, what happened?
Are you sure this doesn't trackwith what I've learned
throughout the movie?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
I don't understand what's going on and then he's
like and then we ran awaytogether and have been together
ever since.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
I'm like what They've been doing it ever since.
How does that even?

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
happen been doing ever since he falls.
The robot falls asleep and thenI have sex with his inner body.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Okay, it's so weird.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Then we have ethan skate.
Mr skate is home with his momand we find out his mom is the
simulation with his mom isbreaking down, and then what we
find out is that.
And then what we find out isthat Christopher, the super
smart kid, is the computer thatthey use to run all of the

(01:07:14):
interfaces on the entire, all ofthem.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Billions and billions of interfaces are all run
through his brain of him sittingin a little casket in Seattle.
Yeah, what that's confusing.
I understand that, like I thinkI've heard before, oh, the
brain is a supercomputer, whichI don't understand what that
actually means.
Obviously it's not true.
But okay, well, obviously youhaven't seen this beautiful
brain.
Okay, come see one of my CATscans, baby.

(01:07:50):
But how could it run that manyI don't get?

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
it no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
It would make more sense to me if it was like a
Matrix style type of thing,where it's like a bunch of
brains that are powering them.
You know, all put together.
Maybe he was the first.
I would believe that, but hecan't do all of them.
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
I don't understand it's just super stupid well,
there you go, it's just thedumbest premise for a movie ever
.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
It's just dumb yeah, it doesn't make sense.
It follows trend where thethings that don't make a lot of
sense, but luckily, I mean thegood news is it makes the ending
easy to write.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Because then he's going to die.
It's a binary thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
He's the whole machine, so you got to get rid
of him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
We also set up that because part of his brain is
walking around, then the wholesystem is going to collapse on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Friday, saturday, friday I couldn't remember where
they landed, because first hesaid Sunday and then Saturday,
then Friday, more likely myfavorite two actors in the whole
movie, by the way, those twoguys who else?

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
One of them is a big midnight.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
He's from midnight mass, he's with, he's in that
whole family of of those shows.
Why can't I remember the guywho makes Mike Flanagan?
Yeah, he's in the Flanniverse,he's in all of those shows.
He's great, he is a wonderfulactor.
I love him.
And then the other guy is justlike a guy that's been around a
lot.
He was on Castle for a whileand he's great too.
I love them and they have areally fun scene with Tucci and

(01:09:31):
I was like this is a scene inthe first scene of the movie and
the last, so enjoy it while youcan.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Folks, my problem with the scene was the
information that they tell us issome of the most hated
information in the movie for me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
So I couldn't enjoy the scene you don't like when
people put a clock on something,I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
So the butcher?
Oh, so then he has a meetingwith the butcher in another
virtual space and I was like,well, here's a point at which
this virtual space is going tobe breaking down and the butcher
is going to go like what thefuck is going on?

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
No, no, this one's fine, so this is obviously on
his personal server.
Okay, so this is not on themain net, as they say.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Why do you set us up with a premise of a thing and
then one scene later, you'relike, no, I'm not going to use
it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Yeah, we don't need it.
We don't need it.
It's fine.
We want it to look cool.
They can walk on water.
Maybe that's the glitch.
Maybe he's like why am Iwalking on water instead of in a
water?
This thing's breaking down.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
There was a cool fish that swam by in the water.
I'm like cool fish.
There was a cool fish.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Pay no attention what the hell's going on with your
fish?

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Nothing, don't worry about it Because it would have
made skate like he'd have tostart sweating Sure.
And that's the thing.
If Stanley Tucci had to startsweating in this movie, I'm like
, oh then he'd even be better.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Sure, do we know what day it is now?
Does he say, hey, it's Tuesday?

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
What day is my company going to end?

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Okay, just wondering, no.
So I have an end date, but Idon't know where we're starting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Exactly because they don't know what's going to
happen in the movie.
So they're like we might writesix weeks a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
I thought you said Friday.
I didn't say which Friday, soButcher gets up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
That say Witch Friday .
So Butcher gets up.
That's a good way around that.
They reach Tabletop Mountain.
They see the Sears Mall andthey start shooting them with
appliances.
Tony, what machinery did theyuse to shoot them with
appliances?
Did this in the last movie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
It's not a catapult, not a catapult.
It was.
Oh no, conan, you've done mewrong.
I don't remember what it'scalled.
It's called a trebuchet.
Ah, trebuchet.
I'm never gonna remember thatword.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Trebuchets were those in Conan too, is that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
where we saw them.
I think that's what it was,couldn't have been Conan.
Was it?
I'm pretty sure it is Conan,because he fires into the ship
right.
I'm pretty sure it was Conan,I'm pretty sure, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
I could be wrong If anybody watches this show.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
let me know if I'm wrong, but I thought it was
Conan.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
So they get captured, they go down there.
Here comes Perplexer, who'slike a magician in his own
little stage.
Beautiful, beautiful animation,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
And wonderful voice work.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Hank is area, so we go inside the Sears.
It's Mr Peanuts, the head of it.
They've parked his peanut carin there, which makes us go.
Well, I guess they're drivingout with that peanut car.
They don't drive out excitingly.
Do they do anything excitingwith the peanut car?

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
No no.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
You have marked up a peanut car and you visualized a
peanut car and the peanut car'snot used in anything.
No, so he explains this is amagical world of safety.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Why.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
What I don't know?
Oh, because there's these,there's the scavs.
What was the other movie we hadwith scavs?

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
I'm just going to say Conan again.
Yeah, another movie with scavs,scavengers.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Oh no it was the Tom Cruise one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Oh, Oblivion the bad guys were scavs.
Yeah, no, you're absolutelyright.
Bad guys, scavs again Now wereguys were scabs.
Yeah, no, again now were they.
Uh, there are other robotsright, because we see one.
So I am confused.
Yeah, are some robots bad, whoknows?
And some robots are good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Well, let me talk about the scabs in a minute okay
, I'll talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
well, you do, you Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
this is going to be a four-hour episode.
So Mr Peden explains to themthat what we'll do is we'll feed
you, then we're going to kickyou out.
Yeah, but we're going to feedyou, but we're also going to let
you sleep here the night, thenwe're going to kick you out in
the morning because there's badthings at night, that's right.

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Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
What do they care?
Um?
Well, because they're good,they're good robots.
Right, because there's goodrobots, there's bad robots, just
oh, just like there's goodhumans and bad humans.
Chris pratt has that line,remember, so maybe it all does
make sense there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
It's explained to me um no, it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Damn, Dan, because I'm confused.
We locked all of them in thisgiant zone and then some of
these robots are like well,we're good people, so we're just
going to hang out in a mall allthe time.
I just don't even understandthe world.
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
We do a bit Chris Pratt goes to get food, and then
we do a bit that Twinkies neverget old, which?

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Yeah, I thought this was funny, oh, and then, we do a
bit that Twinkies never get old, which, yeah, I thought this
was funny, oh you didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
I hate that.
I hate it.
There are a few things I hate.
Twinkies never go bad.
Number one I hate it.
And because they do go bad,thank you very much.
They are just, oh, they do.
They're baked goods, tony.
They're made with flour andsugar and some leavening agent?

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
No, they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Yes, they are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Yes, they are.
No, they're not.
They're made with other things.
That don't I.
Honestly, here's my thing.
I've bought into the propaganda.
I fully believed that theywould last forever.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
I have no idea If you want me to, I would get out a
Twinkie.
That is, what year is it now?
25?
, at least 35 years old and it'sas hard as a rock.
I would dare you to bite intoit, twinkie.
Never go bad, because Hollywoodsays so.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
You're not going to give me a doll, you're not going
to give me anything, you'rejust going to dare me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
No, I don't want you to.
I'll do it.
It's my birthday, twinkies, soI don't want you doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Your birthday.
Like you got it for yourbirthday.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
They made me it.
Oh, at my job one time theymade me a birthday cake made out
of Twinkies and I was like I'llsave them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
That's the cutest thing I've ever heard.
It's very sweet.
It's very sweet.
I love that and I'm sure you'reright Twinkies get old All
right and always givingcharacters asthma as their
weakness.
Yeah, you do hate that.
I hate that so much.
If I ever write a movie, I'mgoing to give all of my
characters asthma.
Yeah, love that movie.
So we're all on the evenplaying ground Like we all have

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trouble breathing.
Get over it, pal, they'refighting each other Time out.
Time out oh.
Speaking of which I watched thatmovie, elevation, elevation.
I don't know that movie.
What movie is that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Elevation Anthony Mackie, it's the quiet place,
except they won't go above acertain height level.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
And so you got to hide in the mountains.
Why didn't we do that for thisshow?

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
It sounds great.
I watched the first 25 minutesand then I watched the last 10
minutes.
It's a perfect way to watchthat movie.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I hate how you watch movies.
Sometimes you drive me crazy,dan, because there's nothing
going to happen in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Some things are going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I'm not saying it's important, but stuff happens.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
It's a bunch of second-hand bullshit, you got
problems.
Man, I'm a busy guy, man.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
I only got 30 minutes for this movie, so we gotta
keep it moving.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
I know you spent 90 minutes making this piece of
shit, but I'm not giving it morethan 30.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
How was the third act ?
Was it pretty good?

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Do you want me to tell you this?
No, don't tell me I can tellyou because if you watch this
movie and you get to it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
You know what you're gonna want want to do, tony.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
You're going to kill yourself because it's so stupid?

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
You know, once again.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
You know, like the Quiet Place, all we needed to do
was get inside their ears.
You're like, give me a fuckingbreak.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Give me a fucking break.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Atomic bomb won't blow up their ears.
Give me a fucking break.
Atomic bomb won't blow up theirears.
Give me a break.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
So stupid.
But some sounds will Just afrequency.
I don't like it either.
I get it.
I get very annoyed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Oh man, we have 12 more pages of this movie.
Okay, flashback.
Oh, all the robots go to sleepat 5 pm.
What was that about?

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Is that a thing that's set?

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Yeah, I don't even remember that he eats the food,
and then we have a quiet scene.
All the robots are gone andit's her and Cosmo, or her
brother Chris, and then hestarts playing the movie, he
starts playing the TV show ofthis thing, and then all the
other robots come out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
And that's when the robots are like, hey, they're
not so bad, which is confusing,because the robot is the one
that's doing the thing thatconvinces them that humans are
cool Doesn't make a lot of sense, dan.
They've never seen TV before.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
There you go.
We should have just given therobots TV, okay, so they're all
happy with them.
Now, what's his name?
Did the Mr Peanut?
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Woody Harrelson, I thought he was okay.
Yeah, I loved it.
Yeah, I thought it was nice.
I liked almost all of thevoiceover.
I didn't like the real actors,but I thought that the voice
actors were great.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Here comes the mail lady.
She's got a letter which tellsthem where they next need to go
to find the doctor.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Yeah, love her, she's great.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Then Mr Peanut's like okay, we're joining your quest,
okay, and they have a baseballguy comes out there.
He's like I shoot baseballs outof my mouth but you have to put
my mouth back up and then I hityou with a bat and I'm going to
be the muscle.
And then in all the cases wherewe need muscle, he kind of
hangs back, kind of doesn't domuch.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Well, it turns out he's really not that useful.
Like the baseballs is a very,very niche thing that we would
ever need, and the baseball batsvery close range, so you're
probably going to die anyhow,because the human bots have much
longer arms.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
I think he explained to us how wood is going to be
better at hitting things thanbaseball.
Don't make any sense, let metell you something about
aluminum bats.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
We are not allowed to use them because they're too
good.
You can't use them in the prosbecause they'd be hitting them.
8,000 yards.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Is that really the case with the aluminum bats?
They would just.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Oh yeah, Aluminum bats are much easier.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
It would just be home , run, home, run home run this
scores would be 172 to 89.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Hey, do it make baseball a lot more interesting.
That'd be pretty fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Okay, so boom, they're loading up.
Here comes the butcher.
He sees them.
How does he not catch up tothem?
Because he's slow?

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Okay, he's slow, so they go to the place where he
does seem to walk everywhere,right as this robot.
I don't know, maybe he's slow,okay he's slow.
So they go to the place wherehe does seem to walk everywhere,
right as this robot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
I don't know, I guess .
So Maybe he's walking At night.
We get to where the doctor isit's at a carnival, even though
it had the normal street address.
That was weird.
Okay, what happens?
Okay, the scavengers startattacking them.
Okay, what happens?
Okay, the scavengers startattacking them.
Here come the scavengers.

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They're, like you know, made upof all these different parts,
and I was like, oh, this wouldbe a great place for us to find
out that the doctor is actuallyin charge of the scavengers and
that will be this additionalarmy that they have that they
can use.
No, they just defeat thescavengers.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Yeah, no, it's fine, he lets them in.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Here comes the doctor .
It's what's his name, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
I can't remember his name.
I feel bad.
We just watched his movie,though, did you?
What movie did you watch?
Yeah, love Hurts.
Oh, is he good.
He's good.
He's good, he's great usuallyhe is a gem, he's wonderful,
he's cute, he's funny and he dida lot of martial arts in the
movie.
Not this movie, love Hurts.
We're going to talk about itlater, but the movie's not very

(01:22:17):
good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
They give him basically nothing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Yeah, and yet he's still endearing Because he just
has that sweet quality to him.
It's really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
We like him, as opposed to Millie Bobby Brown.
We don't like, we're not a fanhe's like you got to go to
Seattle to save your kid.
Okay, we just get moreexplanation about how everything
works and how he was the onethat set up the thing so that
Chris could escape in this robot.

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Here comes the butcher.
He says not this asshole.
Again, I like that line.
And then Mr Peanut battles himand then all these other bad
guys fly in.
Yeah, we have this wacky battlewhere they kill all the bad

(01:23:12):
guys except the dark, the doctorwho gets shot.
Mail bot makes a joke about thedangers of dobermans, the dogs,
yeah, um.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
so she has this she has this move to we have to set
the scene right.
She has this move to we have toset the scene right.
She has this move where shepunches the heart out of another
robot and then pulls the handback and Chris Pratt is like why
would a male robot need to dothat?
And she says because ofDobermans, so that they're

(01:23:45):
murdering dogs.
That's the joke.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
That's the joke.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
The joke is hey, I'm going to tear the heart out of
your pet animal.
Great joke, it's a 10 out of 10.
Who wrote this shit?

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
I was talking to my wife literally the day before.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
In the 70s we set up that Doberman Pinschers were the
most dangerous dogs in theworld In the 70s.
And there was a movie calledthe Doberman Gang which was kind
of a Disney movie.
It was kind of a kid's movie,caper.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Did the Dobermans ride around on motorcycles, so
the bad guys trained Dobermansto help them commit crimes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
And then in the Boys from Brazil, a movie about
cloning Hitler great movieincredible movie.
At the end.
One of these kids, that isHitler, has attacked Dobermans.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Sure okay.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Tear up the big Nazi hunter, great scene.
You know I, as a kid, thoughtDobermans were the most
dangerous dogs in the world.
They are not.
Dobermans are the sweetestbabies in the world.
Every time I see one, I fall inlove with it.
I love them, love them, lovethem, and I'm like why?
Do we have a hate Doberman, inaddition to the dogs, should be

(01:25:10):
killed by postal people.
And it's about Dobermans, whichis not a thing anymore, you
don't think Dobermans are themost dangerous dogs in the world
, do you?

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
I mean, I've never really thought of dogs as all
that dangerous.
Like, the dog itself isn'treally dangerous.
I don't think we can teach themto do dangerous things for sure
.
But I've never really blamedthe breed.
But maybe that's me, I don't.
I've never really blamed thebreed, but maybe that's me I
don't know, maybe I'm too dumb,I'm uneducated.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Well, pit bulls, have that now.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Pit bull is your dog, that's no, you're right about
that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
They do have that stigma yeah, pit bulls have that
stigma of being fighting Ithink they're adorable and yeah
and a good, well-trained pitbull is the sweetest baby in the
world yeah so dan, I would lovea list of dogs that you don't
think are the sweetest babies inthe world.
I love wiener dogs, I lovedachshunds, but dachshunds you

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can't say hi to them.
For the most part, they willkill you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Oh, okay, interesting .

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
They are the most vicious dogs on the planet, but
they're very protective.
If they're your dogs, sure,they probably love you very
protective If they're your dogs,I'm sure they will kill for you
, but they are not friendly dogsgenerally out in the world
Interesting I was just curiousand chihuahuas too.
I love chihuahuas, butchihuahuas also can be very
confrontational.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Well listen, chihuahuas need a lot of therapy
.
I'll just tell you that we canfix it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
The bad guys go and attack the mall and kill
everybody in the mall because wehave to.
If you ever set up somethingbeautiful, your movie is always
there to destroy that thing, sothat when you get back, there
it'll be like ah, fuck you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Right, conan Conan's village is destroyed.
Remember Pathfinder, hisvillage destroyed, okay, conan
Conan's village is destroyed.
Remember Pathfinder, hisvillage destroyed, okay.
So I do have a question,because I didn't understand the
Accords.
Yeah, because the humans arelike well, you broke the Accords
so we can go in and murder yourentire village.
Yeah, but a human snuck intotheir land, yeah, so didn't the

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humans technically break theAccords?

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
Who knows If you're going to try and parse the law
of what this you know becausethe butcher says it at one point
where he's all like I can'tkill a human being.
And Stanley Tucci's robot guykills the doctor.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Well, that's one of my favorite scenes is when he
confronts him about that andhe's like, who cares?
Yeah, who cares?
If it's a human who gives ashit Like nobody cares, kill him
.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
That was a really nice moment, but it is a nice
moment because you acted exactlyhow he acts.
He's just like what are youtalking about?

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Like it never even dawned on him that that would be
like.
He's like I.
I love it.
It's really whatever I want inhere I'm, I'm corporate, I'm in
charge and butcher's characters.
Like you know, that is a momentfor him because he does live by
code and he's all like no manand I.
I thought he should haveswitched right then yeah, but he
doesn't, because that wouldhave been there, isn't like a
moment that's been surprising.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
There isn't like a moment.
That's the interesting thing.
There's not like a moment, then, because this would be the
moment.
Yeah, but then he's still onthe bad team for a while and at
the end he's like, yeah, Ieventually switched.
You know, I had a couple ofnights sleep about it and it
turns out I don't agree with him.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Well, he kind of switches, because he just tells
them to go home.
He doesn't kill all of them.
Oh, they grab Chris and theytake him away.
They go back.
The mall is destroyed.
Tony's favorite character,prospero, is dead.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Yeah, I was pretty upset by that.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I would have loved to see himin battle doing some sort of
magic.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Yeah, chris.
Oh, I'm not mad at Butcher'sman.
We won the war.
I don't even know what thisscene is.
We do this whole weird thing.
I don't even know who Chris isin shackles.
The robot is in shackles.

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He's still bald.
We see his body.
He's in the same chamber fromthe Deadpool movie.
Don't you wish he was just abrain.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Like in a tube a la Futurama.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Yeah, no, that would have been fun.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
It would have been interesting, right, if she shows
up there and this is a revealthat when she shows up she finds
you know, he's just a brain.
And then he's all like I don'twant to live as a brain.
See, if I'm just a brain, Iwould be like kill me.
I'm a brain, sure.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
But he's like a body.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
And you're like ostensibly he could be gotten
out of there and rehabbed.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Oh for sure.
Yeah, he seemed in pretty goodshape, for I guess it was only a
couple years.
I keep forgetting that it'sonly been like two or three
years he said yeah, at the mostyeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
I don't know, butcher is mad.
We won the war, blah, blah,blah.
And then we get Santucci doesthis whole thing and VR my mom
loves me and that's great.
And we got the father, the sonand the Holy Ghost.
And he's the father, chris isthe son and the Holy Ghost is
the VR set.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
The machine.
Yeah, I honestly this confusedme more about his character than
like, because now is he likeokay, hold on, let me collect
these thoughts because he's veryanti-robot.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
He hates robots For no reason that we know.
For no reason that we know,which felt like he'd have a
backstory thing where he says Ihate them because of dot dot dot
XYZ?

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Yeah, no, we don't get that at all.
He just doesn't like them.
Quote, unquote.
But then Maybe they killed hisdog that would have been a great
.
That would have made sense, ohso why?
But he's making a machinemother, and then he's mad that

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it's not working right.
But like she's not real, she'san algorithm, right.
So I'm hazy on his lines here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Well, he's saying his mother was horrible and now
he's created a mother that loveshim and I am not ready to lose
that.
But that's not the characterhe's played.
He's not playing a characterthat is emotionally needy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
He's never played that character.
I don't understand the wholemotivation.
It felt like he had amotivation and then this scene
makes it seem less likemotivation and more just like I
don't know what I'm doing.
I just I made some stuff.
I don't know, I don't know.
I just I thought this muddledit more than it needed to.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Yeah, I got confused.
Well, it doesn't make any sensenow, because he can play that
character like this is sure hecould.
He could play anything.
This is the emotion I live onthis and that's the whole thing.
You gotta, you gotta know whatyour characters are so you can
say to stanley tucci your motherwas horrible yeah, you've made
this virtual world where yourmother is great.

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You were very angry at theconcept that that might go away
of losing you know you actuallydon't care about anybody else.
See, right, that's what I think.
Great Sandy Tucci plays himlike he's a corporate overlord
and it's only money that matters, right 100% yes.
That is the guy he's playing.
He's a disaffected super richguy who truthfully, as this

(01:32:30):
thing falls apart, could havejust walked away from it and
been like, well, I'll make mymillion somewhere else, Someone
else is going to take it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
He already made the money.
He's fine, he's doing A-okay,yeah.
Even when he talks about hismom later he's like I have my
mom here.
She was horrible in therailroad, she's great here.
There's no emotion to when hetalks about it late.
I emotion to when he talksabout it late, I don't know it's
.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
It doesn't make any sense and if that is a terrible
film.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
You love this movie I didn't hate it and I'm liking
it less and less as we dissectit, but it's still beautiful,
still wonderful.
The music's great, except forone scene that we already talked
about.
By the way, did we?
We're already, because wealready met dr glasses, right?
Yeah, the fun house.
He's dead already.
I had a question, dan.
So this movie starts in 1990,we said right, 1990.

(01:33:19):
Now we're in 94, I guess.
And now we're in 94.
So the war happened in thosefour years somewhere, but
somehow Marky Mark and the FunkyBunch still made Such a good
vibration.
Vibration Bow, bow, bow.
That came out in 1991.
Are you telling me that in allthis anti-robot sentiment,

(01:33:40):
they're still making a songcalled Good Vibrations?

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Do you want to talk about?
I don't know.
Do you want to talk about thetitle of this movie, the
Electric State, where MillieBobby Brown talks about the
electricity we share with each?

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
other, between us as humans or something.
Yeah, I don't understand at all.
I can't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Although Danzig is a weirdo and kind of an asshole, I
guess he made a lot of moneywith them using the Mother song
when Chris Pratt pulls up.
I love that song.
It was good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
I love that song too, and it was a good moment and I
was like, okay, and then it waschris pratt.
Even though I knew that wascoming it, it fell flat.
I was like, ah, I'mdisappointed, but I loved the
wig.
And then they justunceremoniously cut his hair
halfway through the movie.
It's it, this is I.
I got so mad.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
So they decide to go to Seattle to save the kid Right
.
They drive in semis, then theyall swim underwater.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Or just.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Herm swims underwater .
I didn't understand theunderwater part.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Yeah, there's not much to understand, don't worry
about it, they get there.
That's the answer they getthere.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Herm gets there, starts throwing cars in the
window.
There's one kind of nice scenewhere there's a woman standing
there and the car hit the window.
I was like whoa, she didn'treally react as if a car had hit
that window.
I would have been on my ass ifa car hit that window.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Right.
What she does is she's walkingby right Car hits a window like
a fifth floor story window Notsomething that normally happens.
She looks at it.
It's like was that a car?
She goes to the window, looksdown that was a car.
And then she calls the phone.
She's like, hey, someone'sthrowing cars at us guys.

(01:35:23):
She is so calm for someonethrowing a vehicle into a
building.
Good for her, and I wish I hadthat composure.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Did I already tell my haircut story on the thing, or
did we do that before?
That was before I got a haircut.
The reason I got a haircut.
I hate going to get a haircutbecause that's my nature.
I'm taking the dog out as Iwalk out.
I think I'm getting attacked byanother dog.
What it is is my big, crazyhair has swung around in my

(01:35:55):
peripheral vision and I see thisgiant furry thing coming at me,
coming at me.
This lady reacted less than Ido to my own hair 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
She had no reaction.
First I mean, yeah, I don'tknow, Maybe she knew that the
windows wouldn't break.
But it had first of all justthe level of noise, like how
loud I'm walking down a peacefulhallway and then boom crash,
just giant window shut.
I mean it would be scary.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Okay, we have earthquakes here that just go
like this and you're like what'shappening?

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
I thought it was the last one.
Just a few days ago, last week,or whatever, I was on the
toilet, dan, I was like this isit?
This is how I die.
I'm so embarrassed and my heartwas just going crazy Because
there's nothing you can do?
I can't go anywhere, I'm notready.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
I'm so bummed you didn't die in the toilet.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
There's still time.
I'm still young.
We got plenty of time for me todie in the toilet.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
He's throwing cars.
They brought the trebuchets.
Millie bobby brown has the has.
Uh, what's his name's computerthat knows all the secret robot
doctor.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
I like that I like that robot.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
It's cute um they get it it reminds me of like a game
boy screen, so I liked it sheimmediately gets to the control
center, like within, she justnot only does she immediately
get there, but also no one.
There's two people guarding it,and they're not even guarding
it, they're just working there.
We are under attack, dan.

(01:37:31):
Let me.
Let me break this down for you.
We own a just giant buildingthat houses one big secret this
boy in the middle of thebuilding.
We are under attack.
Yes, do we just leave this boyunattended by robots?
By robots who are definitelyhere for one reason.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
They're in on the secret.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
We just leave them alone with two regular
scientists.
There's no guards, there'snothing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
It doesn't make a lot of sense Also a bunch of robots
assaulting a place and they'relike aren't there a bunch of big
power cables going into thisthing that you can see?

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
For sure.
Oh yeah, big time, big time.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
I don't know, you know, you just set up a war
right, this is what you do.
You go like what would you tryto protect and what would you
try to take down?
Why is he throwing cars at it?
I mean, he's doing thatinitially to distract, right, so
she could sneak in yeah,exactly yes, I don't know, it's
all done.
Okay, they fight.

(01:38:33):
And then Stanley Tucci, ourguys are winning.
And then Stanley Tucci gets inthis other medium-sized robot,
and then he's just killingeverybody.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Yeah, again, the robot's not big, I don't know.
It's got some sort of a taserlike an EMP taser.
I don't know.
I don't know why it's winning.
To be honest, it doesn't seemmuch cooler than the rest of
them and I wanted a really coolrobot to come out.
We didn't get that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
And yeah, they're just standard robots.
You're like you have a force of20 people that's going to
protect your most importantvaluable asset.
You know, like in real movies,the protection keeps coming
right yeah it has to you defeat20 robots, and then there's
another 100 robots and you'relike Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
You're like, yeah, all right, we did it, and then
all of a sudden you see over thehill just another row, exactly
Like that's what you do.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
You're going to lose.
You're fighting a battle oftrying to waste their time 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
We're just trying to bide time and not die while
Millie Bobby Brown murders herown brother.
That's what we're trying to do.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Somebody says how come you're still fighting?
And then they're like you haveto be alive to die.
And this is the line thatcauses the butcher to realize
he's on the wrong side.
So he just sits down and turnshimself off.
Yeah, does he come back at someopportune moment to do
something?

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
I don't think so, does he?
No, he probably just goes andgets dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Millie Bobby Brown jacks into her brother's mind
it's Christmas, and then he'slike it's all my fault.
He's like how do I look?
And then she won't tell him.
So he thinks he's terrible.
But all he is is bald.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
So you say that as if that's not a problem, tony.
If I okay, listen if20-year-old me if 20-year-old me
, who had hair down to his chinand was in a band, could know
what's about to happen, he'd belike just end it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
You're in a Just end it now.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
You were not in a band.
I sure wasn't a band.
I've been in a couple of bandsin my life.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
What did you play?

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
Guitar you play guitar?

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Oh yeah, you play ukulele, don't you?

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
I do now because it's funnier.
I switched that in collegebecause I was like you know,
what's funnier than a fat guywith a guitar Is a fat guy with
a ukulele.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
So then the kid says they can keep me alive for a
hundred years.
Would you please kill me, right, oh God?

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
It's weird, it doesn't.
I mean, it doesn't matter, itdoesn't make any sense, and so
you never buy into the conceit,and then I don't give a shit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Herm, chris Pratt's robot buddy sacrifices himself
to save Keith.
I thought his name was Keith.
I was like I haven't heard hisname.
I thought it might be Keith.
It's Keith, right?
No, it's John.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
No, no, but I think that might be his last name,
because they do say that a bunch.
Oh, maybe it's.
Do you think it's John Keefe?
Oh, maybe it is, maybe it is,but nobody knows, so it doesn't
really matter.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
Nobody knows.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Do you think it says on Google now?

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
Oh, yeah, if you go to Wikipedia it says his whole
name.
It's because he's like SergeantJohn something, something.
But I was like I guess hisname's John.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
I don't know.
I mean it's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
We solved the problem I have no idea.
Mr Peanut does something.
They tore off Mr Peanut's hatat one point.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Yeah, Giancarlo tore it off and then he was like go
tell everyone that it's yourfault.
It was a weird moment.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Mr Peter just picked up his hat and took it with him,
right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Yeah, and there's a good moment where, because now
he's hatless, he's like I bettergo get my hat, which would have
been funnier if they did itright.
But I do like that moment.
There it is.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
Time is running out.
And then millie bobby brown,michelle, says there's always a
choice like like you can always,you know, there's always a
different way to go.
And this is the point at whichshe, through the course of what
she has done, has come up with adifferent plan, the alternate
the alternate plan or counteralternate plan or counter pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
She murders him.
She pushes the three buttonsand kills him.
She pushes three buttons insequence and kills her brother.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
I mean I'll go either way and the brother's like well
, you go do something special,I've already done this there.
It is.
Yeah, it's weird.
Is this a pro-assisted suicidemovie?
It's weird, is this apro-assisted suicide?

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
movie oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
Assisted suicide movie.
Pay them to get this in there100%.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
Yeah, yeah, you better believe it.
But they were like make itreally easy, just three buttons.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
Three buttons, blip, blip blip, all the bad bots fall
over.
Tony, talk to me about pushabout pushing, killing, killing
everybody.
That's, turning off all the vrand all the robots and everyone
doing their jobs as robots.
What, what, what effect wouldthat have?

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
well, the world would crumble.
The just everyone, because noone they don't.
They say like they're in thedark or something Like I think
they shut down just the generalsociety as well as this tiny
little battle.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
What happens on the airplanes that are being flown
by a robot?

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
They probably just land.
I don't know a lot about planes, but from what I understand
they pretty much fly themselvesnow.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
So they now, so they'd be traffic controllers,
because you don't want to go towork and no air traffic
controller is going to want toever go to work yeah well,
you're right about that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
No, I mean it's weird , right?

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
so, like you're on the freeway, society would call
all these trucks, all thesesemis on the freeway being
driven by robots.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
Now, what a cool scene that would have been if
they just like world destructionall of a sudden.
And then they were like uh-oh,what did we do?
Resuscitate him?

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
In one of my favorite shows ever.
What's it called Station 11.
Magnum?

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
PI.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
Station 11.
They have the terrible viruswhich basically kills 90
whatever percent of thepopulation within 24 hours right
, that's a really high percentyes, I mean the population of
the whole planet is pretty muchwiped out.
Sure, the, the protagonistsknow things are going wrong when

(01:45:09):
this plane you know they're inthis 81st story of the building
and it just the plane just comesin and hits, hits an amusement
park and just oh, and you're alllike shit, just got real.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Right, that's bad, there's no everybody that can
fly the plane is dead.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
Yeah, this thing is just like His name, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
What His name is John D Keats Keats, so that's his
last name.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
So his name is Keats.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
So no repercussions from this happening.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
None, no, which is bizarre again, because then
they're like hey, by the way,don't hate robots anymore, we're
all good, we're not there yet.
We're not there yet.
None of you can.
But no, what I'm saying is itdoesn't make any sense.
No, Because they just again.
They crippled society,Absolutely crippled it, and now
the robots are going to takeover.

(01:46:09):
Let's just be clear.
That's what people would think,right?
They're like oh, they justcrippled society.
Robots are coming at us again.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
Here we go, back to war.
Back to war.
Any robots that were left gone?
What?

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
other rational decision could you make if
everything you knew just shutdown?
It doesn't make any sense Allthose textbooks they threw away
Better go get them.
Better go get them, go get them.
We don't know how to doanything.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
Okay, we won.
So Chris Pratt jumps up anddown we won, we won.
But Herm is dying, he's dyingand then he's.
Why are you talking about thisscene?
You love this scene so much.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
I just got confused and I want you to explain it to
me.
Damn, because he's like I loveyou, you're, you're my friend,
which is all good.
But then he says in fact, Ithink I might like you more than
a friend.
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
see what it has to be , is he's yeah, he knows that
he's.
It sounds like he's testing him.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
That's the, that's the bit right which I thought
was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
He shouldn't have gone to the sex thing, because
that's too far right.
He has to apologize for every.
You know, the sex thing wasjust weird.
I don't even know.
Somebody was like you know,let's try this.
And then they're like well,let's just leave that in.
Yeah, no one's gonna like ourmovie and we may as well leave
this weird shit in what itshould have been.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
This, this one's for us guys.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
This one's for us it should have been he.
He expresses too much and thenthe little dude's like he, you
know, pops the head, pops over.
He's like what are you saying?
Yeah, he's like what you, you,you love me.
What do you mean?
You love you know he, he has toimmediately go on the attack.
But he doesn't go on the attack.
He kind of plays that and thenhe's like I kind of heard

(01:47:56):
something you're like no right,like what did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
did you say you wanted to fuck me?
Wait, talk.
Let's talk about that you inlove.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
You see, that's the bit right.
There's the bit he's like manyou're my best friend, man
you're.
You're so special to me.
He's like are you in love withme?

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
Do you want to lay down with me?
No, I'm not in love with you.
I'm not in love.
How weird is that, are you okay?
Yeah, make a weird, but theydon't make a joke out of it.
No, no, and that's what makesit weird.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
He's tiny Herm and he does make a dick joke About
Chris Pratt having a small dick.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I haven't seen your 8 inch thing,
but I think I'm overexaggerating or something.
It's pretty funny but alsoweird, because we just talked
about him wanting to have sexwith the robot and now the
robot's like I don't need yourtiny little pee pee.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Oh, you, you zoned out for a second there, but
you're back, you're lucky, sothat's the end of the movie,
sort of.
I mean, you know the end ofthat, no the end of the movie is
merely Bobby Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
Hold on, okay, sorry, go.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
So then we start off with the news, you know, and the
news is all like oh, thishappened, and now people love
robots.
And now people love robots theone guy that we had in the news
before.
That's like I hate robots.
It's not like I love robots now.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Well, because they were like, Skate was doing
illegal experiments on one childand all these humans are like
well, now he's way worse thanrobots.
One child, which is ridiculous,because in a war you probably
lost tons of children to therobots.
So again, if he was farmingchildren, if there were hundreds
of brains of children to therobots, so I again, if he was
doing, if he was farmingchildren, hundreds if there were
hundreds of brains of childrenlined up right yeah, just
because maybe they're.
You know, the pre-developedbrain is the only one that works

(01:49:42):
.
So he had to farm children andhe had hundreds and hundreds of
dead children like great, okay,I get it, he's a bad guy.
He did it to one kid we would,we would put up with that a
hundred percent right, like ashumans, we're not great people
and we would be like one childand I get all my cool shit.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
I don't know kind of like my cool shit.
I want those shoes I like.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
I mean we're wearing sweaters that are made by
children in third worldcountries, right Like we don't
care.
We don't care.
This movie doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
And Millie Bobby Brown makes a video which I
guess goes out to the worldsomehow.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
How, yeah, who's broadcasting this shit?
I don't know.
I don't think they canbroadcast from the EX zone or
whatever it's called Like.
That shouldn't be allowed,otherwise robots would be doing
it all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
And she tells her thing.
My name is Michelle Green.
The world is different and newVR is not real life.
Go out, live a life.
Lay in the grass, drink fromthe hose.
I've saved you all.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Which isn't even what this movie was about it is now.
Her whole final speech is likeget out from your screens and go
.
You know, enjoy each other'scompany.
Nobody cares.
Nobody cares.
You didn't do that, you were aloner, it's just.
It's just weird.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
You're gonna hang out with a bunch of stupid robots
yeah, amen to that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
I don't this.
Oh boy, what a mess, what amess.
But also like if she crippledSociety, dan, would we still
have a broadcast Channel?
Like Is TV still happening?
Because you think Humans arerunning the TV?
I don't think they're runningit Anymore.
I don't know Anyhow.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
This movie don't make a lot of sense If we ever meet
the whatchamacallit brothersthat did this.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
We will ask them all these topical questions about
their movie.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
Sure, yeah, explain to me what you were thinking oh,
you wanted to explain to me.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
On your Netflix platform.
You wanted to explain to all ofus that we should no longer go
in for the dopamine necessitiesof that kind of screen culture.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
Yeah, which, if that's the movie you wanted to
make, you should have made that.
You should have made that movie, but you didn't.
It's a good movie, it's a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
What was that one?

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
It could be good, could be bad, I don't know, but
it's better than this.
Remember when.

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
I made us do that special episode about that
stupid documentary about the guythat was trying to solve all
the things.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Yeah, yeah, I do the Social Dilemma.
I think that's what it's called.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
It was the same kind of guy with these bullshit
things where he's like I'm goingto solve all your problems
about screens by putting ascreen in front of your face.
More screens.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
More screens to get rid of screens.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
guy, Get out of here and then Chris the Brother's
robot's on the trash heap and hewakes up and crawls out of
there because he's not dead.
Yeah, and there was a deerdrinking water out of a hood of
a car.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
I don't know.
I think they just did itbecause they wanted the
reflection of the head in thewater.
So it's not.
People are like, oh, was thatit?
But it was it.
Like it's not confusing.
It's not, you're not obscuringit, I don't know, boy, there's a
good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
There's a question, Tony would you rather live?
Would you rather live as arobot that can only talk in
catchphrases and can't doanything, or die?

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
Well, first of all, I basically talk in catchphrases.
I'm quoting movies all the time, so I think I would fit right
into that.
But I wouldn't love having thatbig head.
If we could get me a differentrobot body, I think I would be
much more obliged.
But either way, I'm stayingalive.
I'm not choosing to die.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
I know I understand why they made the robots look
like this is because anillustrator wants to draw robots
that they think are coollooking, etc.
Etc.
Etc.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
But nobody would build a robot that looks like
that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
No, it's dumb, it's very dumb.
It's a dumb looking bot, allright.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
Okay, tony, now is the point at which we talk about
something we like this year.
You go first.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
This year.
Okay, so we talked a little bitand this is not something that
I like.
This is something I thought wewere very excited for.
Love Hurts he's great, we lovehim.
The action's cool.
The first act is is great, wereally liked it, and then it

(01:54:20):
gets super weird and it becomeslike a really bad movie.
What we could have done it forthis.
But I don't want to be mean tohim because I love what is the
movie?

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
love hurts.
I don't know if I've heard ofthis, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
Yeah, it's called Love Hurts.
It just came out a couple weeksago.
What's the premise?
It just gets so weird.
What's?
The setup the premise is theguy that we like, whose name I
can't remember, and I feel bad.

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
He's key.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
He used to be a hitman for his brother's mob, to
be like a hit man for hisbrother's mob, but now he's like
a very sweet, lovely, uh realestate agent in suburbia.
And his past catches up with it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
Okay, right, and that's the first act and then it
just gets so weird.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
It gets so weird and they start mid-movie, they start
doing like voiceovers foreverybody, like we can hear
internal thoughts of oh wow, butnot just him like side
characters, and I was likewhat's happening?
And it just it gets so weirdthat it was why can't you just
make a normal movie, guys?
It would have been a fun, cutemovie, like a classic jackie

(01:55:27):
chan tale.
Like that's what it felt likewe were going with and they're
like but here's the twist is,everyone has internal monologues
.
It's just bizarre.
It got weird.
We didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
Some filmmaker decided to be overly clever.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
A hundred percent, yeah, and I'd still say you
should give it a watch becausewe want to support him.
I think this is like his firstleading role he's great, he's
wonderful.
The movie's not great Anyhow.
So what I want to talk aboutjust real quickly, is you made
us re-get Netflix for the weekto do this movie and so we went

(01:56:07):
back and watched Love is BlindMinneapolis, our hometown
represent, and it was ridiculous.
And it was ridiculous.
But what we found in justGoogling things about the show
because we love to get into itis this gentleman on YouTube.
His channel is calledPsychology in Seattle and he is
a psychologist practicing sortof, but mostly now does videos
online where he breaks downreality television coming from a

(01:56:33):
psychologist's point of view.
Now, he doesn't diagnose people, but he's like these are some
things that they could bethinking, because these people
are wild.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
He looks at the pathology of the people on these
shows.
Oh dear.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
And we are now obsessed.
It is so interesting to hearthe things he has to say.
So it's psychology in Seattle.
It's wonderful, a wonderfulcompliment to your reality
television.
It's been very fun.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
We watched Heretic.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Oh, that's someone famous, is it?
Notting Hill, hugh Grant, hughGrant, yeah, god, I love that
guy.
Wow, oh, is it good.
I'd heard good things and Iloved it.
Wow, oh, is it good.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
I'd heard good things and I loved it I loved it,
loved it, loved it.
You know, once again you getinto the end of the second act,
third act.
Things get stretchy a bit, youknow, oh of course.
But he's just, he's good, right.
I'm really excited.
It's so funny.
The guys that wrote it are theguys that did that.

(01:57:33):
The Adam Driver fightsdinosaurs in Future Earth or
Past Earth, oh, 65.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
They wrote that and they wrote a bunch of other
things that movie's bad A fewother things that were just
terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
But this movie really well written in my opinion.
I really enjoyed it.
Horror certainly seems to bethe place where movies.
In my opinion, movies are beingmade in the horror sphere.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Most of the good movies I see are horror movies
yeah, I mean you're right like,especially like the
psychological horror stuff thatwe're doing, right like, yeah, I
get that they're just I don'tlove it.
It's not my favorite genre orlike subgenre.
What do you call psychologicalhorror as opposed to like horror
?

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
Well, Barbarian was horror.
It was a horror movie.
Yeah, you're right.
And this is a horror movie andit goes really weird fucking
places.
And it makes you think, and Ithink it's the only way where
filmmakers actually get to havesome ideas and explore them, but

(01:58:40):
also have a period element, adarkness and consequences.
Consequences Wow, yeah, so yeah, heretic loved it, okay, all
right.
Consequences wow, so yeah,heretic loved it, okay, tony, we
need a movie to watch Next weekthat we can then talk about For
over two hours.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
Well, I you know we're not gonna talk.
Well, I don't know we might, soI Was gonna pivot to the movie
you talked about on here, theCleaner or whatever, which we'll
do in a little bit because it'snot out on streaming there it
is lucky us, so we, we can't doit.
There's a chance it drops friday, but I don't want to take that
chance and then be, yeah, toorisky.

(01:59:23):
So what we're doing is, uh,tried and true classic,
something that's been on my listfor since probably we started
it uh, jake Gyllenhaal SummerBlockbuster Prince of Persia,
the Sands of Time.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
I think I've watched part of this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
I never watched a single minute of this movie.
I think I have watched some ofthis.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
It's going to be very funny to see him play a Persian
.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Yep.
Spoiler alert he's not, he'svery much not Persian.
A Persian, yeah, yep, yep, whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Because, spoiler alert he's not.
He's very much not Persian.
We'll just tint him up a littlein post.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
Yeah, just a little bronzer, It'll be fine, right?
Ooh, hollywood, hollywood.

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
Oh, hollywood, what are you thinking?
Go make some more horror movies.
That's what I say, becausethat's the only movies I'm going
to be enjoying.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
Have you watched Nosferatu yet?
I haven't watched Nosferatu yet.
Me too, or me neither yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
We never.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
No, I want to.
I never watched the.

Speaker 1 (02:00:23):
Northman Still got to get back to that.
What's the Northman that's hisother movie about?

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
Oh, same dude Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
Yeah, he also did the Lighthouse.
He did the Witch.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
Oh no, he did the Witch.
Yeah, that's one of my leastfavorite movies ever.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
I hate the Witch.
I gotta watch it.
I haven't ever watched it.
I started it but I didn'tfinish it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
Yeah, because it's boring, it's dull, there's
nothing to it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
First 15 minutes and the last 7 minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
And it probably didn't make any sense.
It was probably the same scene,it's probably just the.
Nothing happened.
This is the most boring movieever.
Oh, atmosphere.
No, it's not Atmosphere, it'sdull.
That's not an Atmosphere.
Jesus people, oh poor.

Speaker 1 (02:01:08):
Tony, Anyhow.
Oh, poor Tony, I feel like whenwe do give us a thumbs up, a
subscription or even send us amessage, Please don't send us
the crypto scam message.

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
We don't like those.
Unless, yeah, if it's not ascam, send it.
Okay, because I'm looking toget into crypto, but I'm not
looking to get scammed.

Speaker 1 (02:01:27):
It's some good, useful crypto information.
We'll take that and we'll beback next week talking about
whatever movie Tony just said.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
Prince of Persia, sands of Time, I think I have
that one.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
Let me see it's got to be on my list here too.

Speaker 2 (02:01:42):
It's definitely on your list.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
Funky Monkey.
Do you have Funky Monkey onyour list?
I've never even heard of thismovie.
I updated my list and I wrotedown Funky Monkey.
I mean, I'm assuming it's amovie.
I have no proof of that, butI'm pretty sure how do I not
have Prince of Persia on thislist?
That is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (02:02:04):
Yeah, that's a bad list, then, Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:02:06):
Prince of Persia next week We'll see you then.

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
Goodbye everybody.
Hey, watch it with Dan and Tony.
We'll see you then.
Goodbye everybody.

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