Hate Watching The Gorge: Plant People Beware!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's pretty terrifying when I'm the more
manly of the two of us.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I mean, it's not good for me, right?

Speaker 1 (00:06):
That is embarrassing for you.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's a bad look.
I think I can accept that, oryou're just very masculine, dan.
You ever thought about that?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
No, You're over there like.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Schwarzenegger, you know, in Predator, covering
yourself in mud, and I'm justover here.
Yeah, see, there you go.
Oh yeah, mud, they drew first.

(00:40):
Blood, they drew first bloodhell.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Welcome to Watching with Dan and Tony.
I'm Dan, I'm Tony.
On this show we talk about amovie and it's generally a
terrible movie.
And, um, this week I got topick the movie and I picked
Apple TV's brand new Blockbuster.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Smash hit, smash hit.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
The Smash hit the Gorge 2025.
That's this year.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
That's now we're living in it.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Two hours and nine minutes, and I kind of like this
movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, no, it's nice.
I mean there's some problems,right, it's not a great movie.
It's not a great movie, I meanmy biggest problem.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
What's your biggest problem?
Yeah, is the monsters.
Yeah, super disappointed I andthis is on me, you know what I
mean.
It's on me because you knowwhat it's also on them.
I take it back.
It's on both of us, okay Ithink it's on video games.
That's what I think the problemis okay, that's where I think
that'll come up today, because Imean the action sequence in the
church.
I was like this is ResidentEvil.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
We're watching Resident Evil happen in front of
our eyes and it's a littleweird, it's a little weird.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
My biggest problem with the monsters is that they
built it up for a while, and soin my head I'm like, okay, this
is going to be really cool.
I'm expecting Lovecraftiancosmic horror Gates of.
Hell they brought up.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
And I was like, oh, this is going to be cool.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I'm going to see tentacles coming out of the mist
and I was very excited.
And then it was like treepeople and I was like, wait,
what's happening right now?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, I mean spoilers .
It's basically it's not it.
It's actually not anythingreally.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
There's nothing.
It's just like well, there'ssome creatures down there that
are, it's just some mutants,it's radiation poisoning.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's basically it's radiation poisoning, you know,
and you're like oh okay okay, Imean, I guess that's a choice,
but I'm a little let down.
I was hoping for a little bitmore, and I mean, you know,
spoilers.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
There'll be lots of spoilers, but yeah you know.
I mean it makes sense that youonly have 25 of them crawl up
from below every six months.
It's like it's not.
It's not, there's not a lotgoing down down there.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Really, we don't have a ton of monsters left Like
there've been.
They've been slowly dying forthe last couple hundred years.
We haven't sent more people in.
That's, that's on us.
You know we got to send morepeople in.
Create more monsters, please.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
You know there's a couple points at which you know.
So basically the movie, we havetwo to do the quick overview.
We have a Soviet person on theone side and we have an American
person on the one side and theysort of monitor this gorge
which is down in the ground,where there's fog down there and
then occasionally monsterscrawl up the sides of the gorge

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and then they have to shoot them.
The two of them form arelationship where they're not
supposed to have a relationshipand then eventually they end up
down of the gorge and then theyhave to shoot them.
The two of them form arelationship where they're not
supposed to have a relationshipand then eventually they end up
down in the gorge and we findout what the whole deal with the
gorge is now I have.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I have a question for you how would you have felt if
we don't totally learn about thegorge in this movie?

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I think that this movie, I don't know, I don't
know, I don't know either.
I think this movie answers allits questions right.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
And it almost felt like too many.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It did not leave a lot to the imagination, which is
fine.
It's fine, and they had asolution set up that they set up
.
Basically, you know, at thebeginning of the movie, then we
find out the solution and thenwe know where they're going for
the solution they do thesolution and it solves it.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's all solved.
That was weird to me too.
I was like oh, it worked, thatplan just worked.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
We're done.
There were no twists, no turns.
There's nothing unexpectedreally.
There's a new thing everyone'stalking about, and it's called
second screen.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Okay, is that where I play stuff on my phone?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
That means you are watching the gorge, but you also
have your phone out and you'rechecking your DMs and this movie
is.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I get a lot of DMs so it takes me a whole movie to
check them off.
I've never gotten a DM in mylife, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I send you them and you don't look at them or answer
.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
So maybe I'm getting them all the time and I just
don't read them.
A DM is a text.
You idiot, you don't get texts.
You get them from me and younever respond to them.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I get it.
I must I just you know I don'tlook.
I don't look at the right apps.
Maybe Hold on a second.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
You have a little phone there that has text
messaging.
I know it.
I know it, you have texted me.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I got two phones right here, Dad.
I got two phones.
I don't know what to do withthem.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Hold on a second.
We're going to get the bottomof Tony today, since this movie
it's just a fine movie, fineacting the direction is fine,
the special effects are fine.
I mean nothing over the top,and that's why this is a second
screen movie.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
So, tony, alright, we'll get back to the definition
.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
You get a text right, Does your phone make a?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
noise.
No, I have my notification setto silent.
It does not make noise and itdoes not vibrate.
I refuse, but it does still popup on the screen, you know so
like I can see it and then I cansee a preview, and then I'm
like eh, I'll deal with it later.
And then I don't really dealwith it later.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
So you intend, but what percentage of them do you
actually think?
You see, I mean, how often doyou get one at 10 o'clock in the
morning and don't see it tillfour o'clock at night?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
All the time.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
So that's most of it.
Yeah, it's mostly becausehere's the thing, dan, right,
like, who do I need to talk toin my life?
It's pretty much just my wifeand she's not going to text me.
She's right next to me on thecouch.
What do I need to check myphone for?
Just emergencies, and if it'san emergency, someone's going to
call.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
They're going to call you, but I don't have your
phone number.
I don't know, maybe.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I don't know, but you could Facebook message or call
whatever that's called.
That's a thing.
It'll pop up.
In fact, you'd be on my portal,because I'm one of those
suckers that bought a Facebookportal back in the day.
It's like an iPad on a standdedicated solely to Facebook
Messenger video calls.
I don't know if you rememberthis.
It was a device.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
What the hell are you talking about?
So you have this thing sittingthere next to you.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's sitting, so here's our TV right on there,
and then it's just sitting nextto the TV just in case someone
calls and we need to say, hey,portal answer.
And then it answers the calland we can video chat with you.
You have that on all the timefor no reason.
Yeah, nobody in the pandemic.
My nephews would call me sothat was when it started Sure,

(07:38):
and then they've never.
They haven't called me in fiveyears.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
So they're done with Uncle.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Tony, that's too bad.
Yeah well, they're old now andI abandoned them for their
entire lives.
So you kind of get it.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, so this movie is your classic, true second
screen.
I can't think of anything elsethat exists out there that is so
second screen and sospecifically kind of second
screen.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Do you think that that was the plan?
Do you think app Cause it's anApple?
Movie and they're like hey, youshould be on your Apple phone
at the same time as you'rewatching our Apple movie and we
get double the screen time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
That's what they want .

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Great marketing.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, so this movie, this movie is fine.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, but that's a problem, don't you think?
Fine, it's fine.
I don't know.
Well, I mean, is it memorable?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I mean, I told you about that movie Elevation,
where it's Anthony Mackie.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, you did that movie was stupid.
Right Should have done thatmovie, Dan no.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
No, no, no, no, because they're basically the
same movie, but this movie hasAnya Taylor.
She's wonderful right Joy.
And you know you're like.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
She's so charming.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
She's charming and attractive and you know it's her
and Miles Teller, on the twoopposite sides, and the
relationship is written really,really well.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's why.
So I understand, we're mashinggenres together right, it's two
movies.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's a weird sort of Cold War love story which I
thoroughly enjoyed a lot.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I was like let's just make this the movie.
We don't answer everythingabout the gorge, it's kind of
left a mystery and we just kindof focus on these two people and
then maybe at the end they haveto decide between saving
themselves and saving the worldI don't know, because that's a
classic trope and then theydecide to save themselves and
the world dies.
That's a great movie.
Cabin in the Woods man.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
It is kind of now that I've said it out loud.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
it is kind of Cabin in the Woods of cabin in the
woods.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
He said they probably couldn't do it.
Well, I mean, yeah, cabin inthe woods.
If this movie was 25, better itwould be cabin in the woods.
Sure, you know, because cabin inthe woods, great, it's all it's
marks and you got the twoparallel plot lines, then they
come together and and yeah, Imean cabin in the woods, yeah,
it has, cabin in the Woods has avery proper escalation right.

(10:07):
You know they're escalatingdown in the upper and then they
go down and then things, then wehave an act three.
Yeah, this one feels like, youknow, kind of very extended act
one and one and a half.
You know, then we go down andwe kind of have a two and then
we don't really have a three.

(10:27):
You know this, this moviedoesn't know where it's one, two
and three I would.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, I would assume.
Act three is just kind of likethe 10 minutes where they take
blowing stuff up and then he'smeeting her at a restaurant six
months later.
I don't understand the timeline, but it was a.
It was a rushed act three.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
And she's going to be a waitress and he's going to be
a fry cook.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Right and that doesn't sound right Just based
off of what I know about thesepeople.
It's a weird ending.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I always remember the first time I saw Speed.
You know you watch Speed andyou're just like, wow, this is
great, oh man.
And then you get to the end andthey're like are we boyfriend?
I don't even remember what theend is exactly, but they're like
are?
We boyfriend and girlfriend nowand I sat there in the audience
and I went.
This is a relationship thatcannot survive.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
It'll never work, yeah, but it shouldn't.
You know what I mean.
Like it shouldn't work and itwon't work and that's fine.
We got the self-contained story.
It was very lovely.
These two people bonded withtheir trauma.
They had a lot of sexpost-movie, I'll tell you that
right now Two beautiful peoplehaving some sex.
And then they were like well,we don't really have anything in

(11:32):
common or like each other thatmuch, so I guess we'll just go
our separate ways and it's fine.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
It just was interesting to.
I don't think I'd been in awatched a movie and then got to
the end and then really positedwhat, what next?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
what happens next?
Yeah, and that's it's aninteresting thing to think about
you know, well, and then youknow she got to date jason
patrick and then go on a boat,so it all worked out for
everybody you know, we we reallyneed to intercut that boat
crash with, uh, with the tenantairplane crash.
You know, like have the two ofthem Two of the slowest crashes
of all time.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Bore into each other Boring.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Very slowly crumpling tin yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
So yeah, andy, Taylor , joey, I like it all.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, I mean, here's the thing they're both charming
right?
So?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
It was funny.
At one point in the thing I waslike you know, I said what is
Miles Teller thinking?
Right here he's thinking, whyam I in this movie?
And then as you go along you'relike, wow, this is the Miles
Teller we just need.
This is the guy we need.
He's great.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
The movie doesn't work without two people of this
caliber.
If that makes sense, like itdoesn't have to be.
There's a lot of movies whereI'm like if this person is in
the movie, it doesn't work.
I think this movie can workwith multiple people, sure, but
they have to be of this levelbecause a lot of it just rests
on them, not even talking, andjust eye contact and facial

(13:02):
expressions from across a gorge,which is awesome, like it's a
really cool.
It's a really cool thing andthe idea of this pit of despair
is awesome to me.
The actual delivering of thatpit is very disappointing to me
and that's what takes this moviefrom like yeah, good, I it's
watchable.
To like this is trash.
Who?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
made these to trash.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I hate when they're in the gorge.
I hate it, I hate it.
I think it's so dumb.
I think it's a terrible,terrible C grade.
It's not even as good asResident Evil.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I mean oh sure, sure.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I mean, Resident Evil's not a good movie, so you
can't so oh yeah, it's not asbecause it's not as because
Resident Evil is fun.
Oh, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Resident Evil's always fun.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I mean, yeah, they have a good time, they're making
cool creatures and they'rekilling those creatures and
they're just shooting other shitout of people.
This just was just like, eh,let's get out of the gorge.
And I shouldn't feel that way.
I shouldn't want to get out ofthe cool cosmic horror gorge,
right?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
There isn't a cosmic horror gorge.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I just want.
It so bad Dan, I want it to bea cool cosmic horror gate of
hell.
Hp is rolling in his grave atthis missed opportunity.
Listen to Tony dropping the HP.
Oh, I'm obsessed with HPLovecraft.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Big, big fan over here and all of his racism, and
so listen I.
It was a different time With HPLovecraft, Big, big fan over
here and all of his racism.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
So listen, it was a different time.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
His eugenics Tony's, on the podcast promoting
eugenics?

Speaker 2 (14:35):
No, no, but he's.
I mean I will get in a lot oftrouble because I'm a guy that
Loves eugenics.
No, no, I am verypro-separating the artist from
the art and I understand wherethat can get us into trouble
with.
You know, we don't have to geton this topic too much.
But with JK Rowling, who's like, still making money on it,

(14:57):
that's a problem.
But like HP, he's dead, he'sgone.
He's not still making money offof me enjoying his work?
You?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
So, like to me, that's a little different.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't think there's even family to be making money
off of.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I don't know what's the lineage.
I don't know.
I think probablywhatchamacallit, it's probably
just people sitting in an officeowning the rights, raking in
the 99 cents as I buy usedcopies of these books.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh, you're buying the books reading the Dream Quest
of Unknown Kadath over there.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
You know we did a.
I'm not going to remember thename of the short story we
adapted, but we did a short filmin college based off of HP.
You did it in college, Really.
Yeah, man, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
And that was because of you, or that was because of
one of your friends.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
It was me and my roommate Lance.
Yeah, and that was because ofyou or that was because of one
of your friends.
It was me and my roommate Lance.
Good guy, oh wow, look at that.
He left California.
By the way, he's now living inthe woods in Wisconsin, like in
a he built.
He lives in a shed.
I mean he's like off the grid,yeah, off the grid.
He ordered a shed from HomeDepot and built it, insulated it

(16:04):
.
He doesn't have a restroom he'sstill working on that but yeah,
he's just in the woods.
Was this the Game Boy?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
guy, the guy that collected the Game Boys.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, he sold all his Game Boys.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh, dude, he did well .

Speaker 2 (16:15):
For all of the people that don't know, my roommate
had these two huge glass casesand he had hundreds of Game Boy
he cases and he had hundreds ofgame boy.
He was a game boy collector.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
So beautiful stuff.
Yeah, I sold all that and movedout of la.
Well, that that that would makeyou the money.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, no, that's, that's your seed right that's,
that's what you see, and thenyou go and you figure out your
life somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Oh good, let's live that weird life.
Is he making live that weirdlife.
Videos of it too?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
no, no, no, no he's just being super private about
it, like I.
You know, we talk every once ina while, but he's just living
his best life.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
We watched this one show about these people that
lived, you know that kind oflife, I think, up in alaska, and
you know they would have tolike, take the, the four-wheeler
, to the railroad track becausethere were no roads and the
railroad, the railroad wouldstop and they'd get their stuff
and they'd pile it on the thingand they'd drive it out to their
.
You're like oh no, thank you.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I want to do that, but almost the opposite, which
is golf carts.
I want to be in one of thoserich neighborhoods where you get
to drive your golf cart to thestore.
That's the dream for me.
I don't need real roads or cars.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
So that, but incredibly lazy.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Right, right me.
So I don't need real roads orcars so that.
But incredibly lazy right,right, yeah, I wanted to like I
want to live off the grid and belike this really hot but just
do it in a rich, lazy whiteperson like I have everything
handed to me way, yeah, a gatedcommunity of people living?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
oh yeah, you need a gate you need to.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I can't have riffraff like you just coming onto my
property, Dan.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, I guess we should talk about the gorge a
little.
Yeah, tell me about this movie.
Miles Teller, he's a sniper, he, oh, no, no, we start with Anya
Taylor.
Here she is in darkness Day 10,brushes her teeth, poop, poop,

(18:04):
pop.
She opens a little thing.
She's a sniper.
She's waiting for this guy toget off a plane.
He gets off the plane.
He kills him.
She kills him.
So she's a great sniper.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Great sniper, one of the best.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, Ostensibly better than him right.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Seems like it's just on the one where she's like, oh,
did you do that?
Really great job, but he nevereven knows that she did it.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah.
So he doesn't say but she's theone who did the big jobs.
You're like ah, very good,that's the one problem with this
movie.
I mean not one problem.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, yeah, there's more problems, because already I
have a problem, but continue.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
He's having a hard time.
He he's having a hard time.
He goes watches the sunrise onthe beach.
He's writing in his little book.
Cute dog comes up to him Verycute dog.
Boom.
He's got a job Job's down atCamp Pendleton.
You know what Camp Pendleton iswhen?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
it said C Pendleton, I was like, hey, I've heard of
that, but that's about as that'sit.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Camp Pendleton's, on the way to San Diego.
It's the big military base downthere.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I've probably driven by there a bunch of times.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
A million times we went down there as kids.
A million.
Well, yeah, I had beefstroganoff, you know they like
took us down there.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I love a good stroganoff.
You should come to the Midwest.
We fucked that shit up.
I can imagine.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
So his meeting is with Sigourney Weaver and a
smoky thing.
They talk about how many he'skilled and she wants him for
this new job.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
okay yeah, I don't need any of this oh really, yeah
, I don't feel like I need anyof this.
Uh, I see, honestly, to me theonly reason that this is in the
movie, yeah, is that sosigourney can come back at the
end, sure, barely and just likeloosely wrap it up, sure, well?

(19:54):
Yeah, I don't need any of that.
I, honestly, I'm wake up.
Wake up in your, in your newpost, or on the flight wake up
on the flight and meet the newguy and he can just walk through
it and then the whole timewe're like what the hell's going
on?
Who's this guy?
What's he doing here?
What's going on?
And then through theirrelationship, they can talk
about what they did.
There's like, oh shit, you're asniper, I'm a sniper.
Look at all these things wehave in common.

(20:15):
Let's go kill things.
I don't know.
I just felt like this beginningwas very.
It took a while to get to thegorge, and then that's when the
movie starts.
For me, this is what we callsecond screen.
It's true, right?
I feel like you're going to hitthis topic a lot today, lot
Well.
I mean it's true, right 100%.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
We don't need any of this stuff.
We do the thing with her, thenwe do the thing with him and
he's on the plane and we're justlike wait what the hell's going
on.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I don't need to know her stuff either.
Really.
She's like oh, my dad'ssuiciding and I don't understand
.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
She goes and sees her dad.
Her dad's wrecked with cancerand he's going to kill himself.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
He's going to end it on Valentine's Day.
Yeah, on Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Which actually leads to a nice scene in the movie.
But I don't need to know thatbeforehand.
That's true, she was over therecrying.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Right, and then we're like, oh no, what's going on
with this solitary soldier overthere?
And then he's like, oh no,what's going on?
And then we all find outtogether Wow, what a great movie
that would be.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Second screen.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Second screen?
Were you second screen?
Are you just making excuses,Dan?
What were you doing?
Play a little Marvel Snap.
I quit Marvel Snap.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Okay, hold the phone.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Time out.
What do you mean?
Cold turkey?
When, two weeks ago, I had tostop, it was March 15th at
7.42pm.
What do you mean?
What happened?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I loved it too much, and sometimes, when you love
something too much, you justgotta let it go.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Wow, dan, I'm shocked .
I'm shocked.
Are you looking for somethingto fill that void?
Can I introduce you to PokemonTCG Pocket.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Not a chance.
Okay, copy that, although I waswatching one of the a police
show maybe shannon was watchingit.
There are these kids out in thewoods in the dark and he's like
what do you kids, you know?
Like what are you kids up to?
You know they were like theyweren't young kids.
They were, like you know, 18,19 year old kids sure yeah,
looking for pokemon in thefucking come on, go, baby
england.
I'm just like oh my god, no,the new game is Baltro or

(22:20):
something.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Oh, I don't even know , it's kind of like Poker.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think it's called Balatro Balatro.
Yeah, mobile game Got it.
I don't know how I got thatright.
It is red hot and they'remaking A ten of money.
Okay, I'll check it out.
I love wasting money.
Mobile game got it.
I don't know how I got thatright.
Uh, it is red hot and they'remaking a 10 of many okay, I'll
check it out.
I love wasting money yeah, but Iwas like I need to get more
stuff done in my life and if Ican cut one more gaming thing
out of life and wow and do itbecause I didn't spend much

(22:49):
money on it.
But yeah you know, I did spenda lot of brain power on it, so
it's like, yeah, it's wastedbrain power.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Wow, hey, I mean I guess good for you Just taking
away something you love for noreason Good for you?
Yeah, great, I'm greatSelf-controlled.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I'm powerful, so so she.
So I get Taylor's going forthis, the Ruskies and he's going
for the Americans.
Gets on a plane.
They drop him 38 miles out.
The parachute jump was no fun.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, it was no fun.
Also, I would wear goggles ofsome sort or glasses.
I feel like doesn't a lot ofstuff fly in your eyes if you're
falling so fast?
I don't know.
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Anyhow, I was expecting a fun parachute jump
and it was just very boring.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
You didn't get one.
He just kind of jumps and thenhe's pretty much on the ground
seconds later.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Hikes there, has to climb up a thing.
Reaches the gorge, meets JD,the guy who was there before him
.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Real nice guy.
I love JD.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, JD was great, yeah he was great and he gives
the whole idea.
There's a fence he has to takecare of the fence.
There's machine guns he has todo.
There's satellite link.
He's supposed to check in oncea month.
Not sure how they resupply.
I would have liked to havesomething dropped every month.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, they don't seem to they should do some sort of.
Fortnite drop.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, every month.
Yeah, they don't seem to they,should they should do some sort
of fortnight drop.
Yeah, you gotta go get yourgear, you gotta do a drop,
because how?
I mean, he's not carrying allthe all those minigun.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
He was carrying nothing, I don't really know he
had a backpack, didn't he?
He had something like a littleone he doesn't have 8 000 rounds
in his bag.
He does that um, yes, and thisis where you know this is the
problem, because jd sets me upfor cosmic horror right away.
Yeah, he's like.

(24:43):
What do you think he's like?
I think it's the gates of hell,and it's not.
It's not at all it's.
He's not even kind of close Imean literally.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
The first time they show up, I was like oh, oh,
plant zombies.
That's literally what I said.
I said plant zombies is what Iwrote in my paper.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Wait, like before you saw the monsters.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
No, first time you see the first shot of a face of
a monster, like literally withinthree seconds of seeing the
monsters for the first timecrawling up, I was like oh,
plant zombies.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
And did you write a frowny face next to that line?
Because that's what I would.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Oh, it's plant monsters.
Sad face, I'm let down, boo.
And we set up that that if theair raid thing goes off, that
means everything is compromisedand you got to run away because
it's all going up.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
So you're like right, because that's that means it's
going to blow right.
That's what, that was, okay andthat's called.
Just want to make sure that'sthe stray dog protocol.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
So we're like, well, that's the end of the movie.
Yeah, but it happened so quickand they call the bad guys the
hollow men.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, which I didn't understand, that reference the
TS Eliot.
He's a poet.
Yeah, I don't listen.
I don't read TS Eliot.
Okay, I don't listen.
Listen, I don't read TS Elliott.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Okay, I don't listen to the movie.
I don't listen to him talk.
Dude throws a mine in there andyou know you hear the monster
noises from.
Come down below.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, which again misleads me, because I'm like oh
, there's something down there,it's just little guys with
plants on their face.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
It turns out that the other side, they both switch at
the exact same time.
And now that I think about it,it makes sense.
When I started it I was likethat doesn't make sense, but it
actually does make sense.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And why is it doesn't make sense?
Because I agree that it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
But if you can convince me, because what we're
going to find out at a certainpoint is they are working in
concert.
This began in concert.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
This began in concert .
Oh, you're right, it all comes.
Yeah, all right, I got whatyou're saying.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, so boom, boom, boom.
There's monsters.
He eats dinner.
There's great water pressure.
How is there great?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
water pressure Better than I got.
You know what I'm saying.
I got to move to the gorge.
I love a nice shower.
That hurts me a little bit.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
So JD cruises out, gets picked up by a helicopter,
they ID him and then they shoothim in the face.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Shoot him in the face .
Real sad.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
This is a problem I have with the movie is if that
doesn't matter, if you'rekilling like the number one
sniper in the world every year,there's going to be no snipers
and you know they'd be like hey,what happened to this guy that
had 122 confirmed kills?
Weird.
Yeah, what happened to the last20 guys?
Like you know, it's like itseems like they get to this
certain age and then they'regone and also like maybe they

(27:30):
should have discovered thatsecret, maybe I thought they
were going to I mean they should, because otherwise there's
really no point in it, otherthan like oh, we're keeping our
secret, but who cares?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Because nobody knows.
Yeah, like, why are they notfinding his body on accident?
Why is he not in the gorge?
Have him fall into the gorgeNow.
He's a monster and he's like oh, jd, jd, my brother, he's got
to kill him.
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Things they couldn't do, probably because they had to
have him so far away, 38 milesaway.
They're never going to discoverhim, 38 miles away.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
It is a long ways.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
You're right.
There's books for him to read.
Oh, now it's October, so hestarted in September, now it's
October.
There's writing on the wallwhere everybody just writes in
the law.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Can I ask you a quick question?
Did you have problems followingthe months as well, or was that
just me?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
No, they wrote them down.
They told you when they were Iknow they wrote them down.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
But then I was like is that one month?
Is that two months in between?
I couldn't remember.
We're happening so fast, likeSeptember to October.
Is there months in between?
Where's November?
That doesn't happen to you.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean, if I was just sitting there, you know, yeah,
it might be a little confusingbecause you're kind of watching
the seasons roll by.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
But yeah, no, I know what you're saying.
October he finally sees her.
She's over there cutting wood,you know, and he's all like With
a chainsaw, humminah, humminah,there's a rainstorm.
He freaks out, he steps on someglass, he looks at her, she
looks at him.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Uh, november, yes, no , no, I just uh, I two things
didn't like the glass bit, uh,because I show him picking a
piece of glass out of his footand that freaks me out big time.
Um, but also, like we kind ofset up that he's got some ptsd
and then we don't care.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, we just don't care.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
It's like oh interesting, Like maybe this
will play a part in the monstersor something.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
It's cured by love.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Oh, I didn't know there was a cure, so that's good
to know.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Love Okay great.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Duh, I've never felt it so I guess I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Somehow she has cake.
She also has a big supply ofchampagne which she goes through
regularly.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah yeah, lots of bottles, and they're not making
that there.
I don't know how to makechampagne, but I know you're not
making it there.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, you're making it in the Champagne region of
France.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Because it's grapes still right Like wine, but it's
just made differently, orsomething.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Champagne is a sparkling white wine, I believe,
and it only comes from theChampagne region of France.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Why do they get to do that?
Because that's their thing.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
They made it up and they gave it the name, and so
you can make something veryequivalent here, but you can't
call it a sparkling white.
Cannot call it champagne.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
That just feels a little rude.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's their thing.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
It's their thing, right, you know it just feels a
little monopoly-y, monopolizing.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
How would I say it's a?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
monopoly.
It's theirs, it's a monopoly.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Listen, I just feel a little rude.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
They have a monopoly on monopoly.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Listen, I just feel a little rude.
Yeah, you're just doing it adifferent way.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I mean, can someone?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
else make a Ford car?
Well, no, because nobody.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, no, you just stop Silence.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You just stop, you stop you monster.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
So he sees her eating the cake.
She fires, holds up a pad thatsays what's your name?
He says.
He shows up his dry erase board, says no contact, and then she
shows favorite parts of themovie.
Yeah, his little smirk while hedoes it like it's very charming
, very charming and she says hername is drasa and then he

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toasts her yeah Cute, it's cute.
Then she plays the Ramones anddances around.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Here's a real question, though you don't.
I mean, it's not possible thatthey're the first two people
that have made contact acrossthe gorge, right?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I would say most of them would.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, this movie to me makes it play as if they're
the first ones to do it.
That doesn't matter, I justfound it a little strange.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I mean she has a giant pad and giant markers.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Her pad never seems to run out as well.
By the way, there must be 2,000sheets of paper because they
talk for months.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Nothing runs out in this place.
You know what are you going toneed?
A giant pad of paper and agiant sharpie for To draw my
vases I like a little.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
A vase art.
That's what I like to do.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's a sketch pad, dan, so I was just saying you do
some sketches, and that was thefirst thing that came to my
head.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I thought you were saying I thought that was like a
thing that came to my head wasa vase.
I thought you were saying that.
I thought that was like a thingyou know you did to relax
You're like oh God, I'm aterrible drawer artist.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I'm a terrible artist full stop.
In general, that is true.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
She plays the Ramones blitzkrieg, bop, dances around
and then they take shots toprove to each other that they're
great shots.
Very, take shots to prove toeach other that they're great
shots.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
That she said Very sexy.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, their scene was very sexy.
And then, as they're goingalong, and then she senses
something.
I didn't hear anything.
It felt like she sensedsomething.
Yeah, and we get the firstassault of the plant zombies.
He's sniper and I was soexcited.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh you were, Because so we're playing the music and I
was like, oh, the monstersaren't gonna like the music
right.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
So then I was like where are?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
the tentacles, baby, there's gotta be tentacles
coming.
And then this little treeperson comes up the wall and I
was like what the hell, is thisso disappointing?

Speaker 1 (33:10):
um, so he's blasting down, she's blasting across,
then they get on her side, thenhe's blasting across.
And it was nice because therewas teamwork and camaraderie.
And these are two.
They're pros, they're not goingto screw things up and it's
just nice to see pros.

(33:31):
They don't talk about it, theyjust do their thing.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I mean it's also you know, let's be honest, it's a
little bit easy of a job becausethe tree people are so stupid.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
They get a little smarter later.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
A little, not like a ton, but a little they set a
trap at one point she's injured.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
The morning comes, she holds up her pad Best
birthday ever and he laughs.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
It's funny stuff.
And then her injury disappears,same with his injury A little
bit later.
He gets smashed between amountain and a car, and then
he's pretty much fine.
There's some weird stuff inthis movie.
Second screen.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
These are superheroes , you know.
They heal fast and they livebig lives.
They live big lives, baby.
They fix all the defenses andthen this weird drone comes out
of the gorge and you're like Idon't know what is happening.

(34:31):
It kind of goes up and it kindof goes boopity, boopity,
boopity, boopity, boopity, boopTakes off.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Did you?
I had no idea what was going onwith that.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
No, I, I had no idea and I was like, oh, another
mystery.
And then not really not reallythey answer it and it's just
like oh yeah, okay, it's thesame people that are gonna, you
know, set all the stuff up andbrought you there.
They're just checking shit out,yeah they take samples down
there.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
It's December, he's got a still that he makes booze
with.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Where are all those samples, dan?
I'm just putting this togethernow because they're collecting
samples.
We don't solve that Well no,they may plant people warriors.
They're working on it.
Right but the movie ends and ahappy ending, but there should
be people out there working onSuper Soldiers.
There are Not a great ending.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
No, I mean they sort of solved the Crucible problem,
but the DNA is already out there.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
That's what I'm saying, but they don't seem to
care.
They should have to go kill allthose people.
That's Gorge 2.
I'm not going to watch Gorge 2because there's no gorge in it,
because they blew up the gorge.
I'll watch Gorge 2.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Gorge 2, gorgeless Christmas Tree Snowman.
Then they play chess in homageof her best characters.
And then they play drums inhomage of his best character.
Now here's the fun part.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I don't know if this is true or not.
They said it in an interview.
I read it, I think it was.
Was it People or EntertainmentWeekly?
One of the two?
They did an interview and theysaid that those were in the
script before they signed on tothe movie and they tried to have
them removed from the moviebecause they thought it was too
on the nose.
And the director was like no,no, no, we're going to keep them
because I think it's fun andcute.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
That's nice.
I agree, I thought it was cute,it was great.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, I thought it worked really well, but it was
funny just being like it wasalready in the script.
So it's not because of them, itjust really worked out nicely.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
You're going to have Russians play chess period.
Sure that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
And the drums thing.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Not a lot else to do, I guess, around the gorge.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
It is a thing that you can't really play piano with
each other.
You sing, I'll play piano.
It can kind of do drums.
It kind of makes sense.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
February.
So now we've skipped.
We skipped all of January.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
The best month.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Bad dreams.
She can see she's having a hardtime.
She can see that he's having ahard time.
There was one nice scene whereshe could she really clocked
that he was having a hard timeand it was just kind of nice.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Like you said, the distance thing yeah, and they're
emotionally in tune whilstbeing so far apart.
I just it's a really nicecharacter connection and you
know, then we jump into thegorge and ruin the whole thing
february 14th.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
She knows that her dad is, you know, off on himself
she's crying.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
We know as well, so I just don't care that much.
Yeah, I think it's moreinteresting if she has to open
up to him You're right and openup to us at the same time.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, it's kind of funny Because you'd think that
doing that exposition in thefront Would be the right way to
do it, as opposed to doing it ona piece of paper.
But doing it on a piece ofpaper is ten times more
emotional.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, and not only is it more emotional, it's what
we're doing in the movie.
This is their relationship, solet me see them build a real
connection over this time.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I don't know, and it would have worked.
It would have worked reallygood, it would have worked
really nicely.
You would have found somethingthat he could do to support her
in some subtle distance way.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, like take off his shirt again because his abs
are out of control in this movie.
Oh my God, we'll get to yourfavorite scene later, tony.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I'm sorry.
So then she writes I wish youwere here with me and you're
like, oh, this is they modulated.
That aspect of it is like who'safter who.
She's kind of after him alittle bit more than he is after
her, and she's kind of afterhim a little bit more than he is
after her, and it's kind of.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Well, but she sort of starts spying.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
She sort of makes.
She makes moves, just like hemakes moves 100%, and it's just.
That's nice.
These are two type A's thatdon't have to dominate the
they're snipers, right.
So they're type A's that thatdon't have to dominate they're
snipers, right.
So they're type A's that waitfor their opportunity, but they
always take their opportunity.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
You got to take the shot when you got it.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
That's what I've learned about snipers and stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
So he disassembles a bomb, turns it into a missile.
I love that immediately.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
He's in action, he's like I can get there, I can
figure this out.
Let's figure this out.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Let's solve this problem and it's intercut really
nicely, it's handled reallynicely, it's shot really nicely.
He shoots the thing across.
Then he holds up a thing to herthat says dinner tonight and
you're like, oh OK.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Adorable.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
What a perfect thing to say.
Shoots it across, zip linesacross, has to pull himself the
rest of the way.
Very funny.
Um, she's like I made rabbitpie.
I'm like, uh, this is acallback joke that we do and you
know you're like she maderabbit pie.
Oh that there's good huntingwhere they are.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yes, and so they, they do hunt, yeah, something
yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
He brought her flowers, but oh, and then.
Then he hits her with the lineoh my God, what a good line.
There's a lot more green inyour eyes, oh my God.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I was like oh my God, oh my God, that's a thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
And I didn't really think about it.
It's a joke and it's abeautiful line, right?
Because he doesn't know whatcolor her eyes are.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, he's very far away.
He's very, very far away.
It's good.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
He's good and that's the thing about this movie, with
their interactions and thehumor.
It's humor, right, it's notjokes.
Yes, it's emotional humorthat's given by two people that
can do it, and then, she saysyou smell, yeah, and you're like
oh, he does smell Great stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Of course I don't remember exactly what he says,
but he's like I misjudged thecable bow or something.
I had to pull myself the secondhalf and I was like that's
great stuff.
It's true, that's wonderful.
Yeah, that's like a wonderful,humorous, very real moment and
it's great, it's really nice.
And then we're about to ruinthe movie.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I just want to keep in mind, I gotta go into the
gorge is almost over.
We're almost done with thegreat stuff um, she makes him go
take a shower in the showerroom and then she moves his
clothes.
So she, he has to go, hilarious, great stuff.
And she makes him go take ashower in the shower room and
then she moves his clothes.
So she, he has to go hilariousgreat stuff and she puts on this
really cute little vest.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yep, yeah he.
I don't know when he got ripped, but like he looks good in this
movie, he's ready for actionfilms.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Um, they, they talk, then they have talk about shots,
and then she says something andshe's like oh, you've probably
been trying to figure out how toget in my pants.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
You're like ooh, ooh ooh yeah, very good, very good.
The answer is yes, he has beenthinking about that.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
And then they talk about the nightmare of being a
sniper and the art of theperfect shot, and you know about
trying to compartmentalize.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
And then they there's a really nice line where I
think she just flat out sayslike, do you love it?
And he says not as much as Iused to, or something like that,
and I was like that's a reallynice.
There's some really nicecharacter bits here.
That's just like he's reallygood at it, but like that shit
takes a toll on you.
I, you know, I don't knowpersonally, but I imagine it's

(42:20):
nice.
It's really nice and they'reboth kind of in that same spot,
cause she was giving she wouldgive her shell casings to her
father and they called it herShane.
Cause she's like I'm good at itbut don't love it.
You know, it's just, it's greatstuff yeah, trying to distance
herself from this.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
This act, that is, yeah, that you know has
repercussions and even if it'sbad people, you're also working
for a government and you don'tknow how bad the bad people are.
Maybe it's just ain't that thetruth?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
you don't know yeah, um.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
And then maybe it's the next morning she sees him
writing and she's like what doyou write?
He writes poetry.
Then we get this great littleinterchange where he says that
he took a class.
I was just like you killed mewith that line.
It was just you know.

(43:11):
And then she's like are yougood?
And then she's like you go intothe, you know, have you written
anything about me?
And he's like, yes, and youshe's like are you good?
And then she's like you go intothe, you know, have you written
?

Speaker 2 (43:19):
anything about me and he's like, yes, and you're just
like, oh my God, he's totallywon her heart.
But then we don't get to readit.
We do later.
We only get to read a verylittle bit of it.
She keeps that very private,which is it's a nice moment, but
like I'm curious, you know.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
But he gives her the title she Collapsed the Night.
It's a good title, good title,good title.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
I don't know much about poetry, but it is a good
title.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Next day he's going back, you know, and then he
tells her that he loved therabbit pie.
Humorously, I don't rememberhow the line went, but it was
really good.
Yeah, how the line went, but itwas really good, yeah.
Um, and as he's going across,because you know you can't have
it, you can't have it angledabout to the middle point, then
he's got to pull himself across.
He gets there and then thezombies attack, right then, and

(44:06):
then one of the mines goes offand it blows the cable and down
he goes yeah, he goes down quickhe goes down quick, she acts
just as quick, immediately, sheimmediately jumps in another,
like nice moment, where it'sjust like.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
She's like, I'm not even thinking about it, I'm
going in, going after the guyshe just fills a bag, gets a
parachute and then just jumpsand then the credit should roll,
because that's the end of themovie.
This was a great 90 minutemovie.
That's the end of the movie.
This was a great 90-minutemovie.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
That's where you're absolutely wrong, because she
lands in the river down thereand it's really nice.
It's really nice her trying toget the parachute.
She loses the little machinethat would pull them back up the
cable.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, I was a little confused.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
They're stuck down there.
Yes, bump, bump, bump Ruppetcomes in the water, yeah.
And then she climbs out onto alog, he's upside down in this
corpse tree and then a corpse ofpeed comes down out of the tree
.
Did you, did you coin that?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
that's nice.
I like that a lot, I bet you.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
They called it a corpse of Pete in the movie, but
it is.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
There's not a chance, there's no way.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I bet you they called it a corpse of Pete.
And he shoots it, but then hefalls down and then the tree
gets in with its gooeyness, andthen it's kind of Venus, fly
trappy, and then it's got littleand unfortunately this is one
of the best parts of horror inthe movie because then it
becomes not that almost at allnow.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Then it's just tree people the rest of the time.
This is like when you firstfall you're like, oh cool, this
whole place.
What was that movie we watched?
Where like a forbidden planetor whatever, like where the
planet was supposed to be superdangerous but then nothing
happened on the planet and itwas totally fine.
That's what this felt like.
We start with two really nicemoments of like, oh, this place
can be very dangerous, and thenit's kind of not.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
And also you needed to ramp up until you have some
big creature at the end, Somebig yeah a big creature would be
great, not some doofus on ahorse so stupid.
Yep.
So she saves, saves him, cutshim free, and then we have the
horsemen, and they're just plantzombies on plant zombie, horses

(46:26):
on horses, and they attack them.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, like why?
Because they eat them.
They want to eat them.
Yeah, I mean, that's what hesays.
It's like based on how skinnythey are, they probably eat us.
That's not exactly.
He said things that make moresense than what I just said it
doesn't make any sense, becausethere's only one person a year,
right?
Most of the time they don'tcome in.
Most of those people don't fallin.
So what are they doing like?
No, come up with something else, come up with a different idea

(46:54):
and what it is, is they're justtrying to convert them, maybe,
like it's a conversion.
They're like hey, we need morepeople for our army for when we
take over the world.
They're not.
They're not doing that, they'restaying in the gorge for the
most part, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
And they're wearing military uniforms.
So what we find out, basicallywhat we find out, is that this
is a joint.
How did it all start?
I guess it was World War II.
They were researching stuff,they were doing the research
here, but it was us and theSoviets together, and then
things went horribly wrong.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
As they tend to do.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
And they sort of sealed it off, but they actually
sort of left it there.
And then Sigourney Weaver's,but they actually sort of left
it there.
And then Sigourney Weaver'speople are still going down
there for samples to try andfigure out how to use it To the
collective good so basically, wehave a whole town slash
military base that has been over, you know, that has been

(47:53):
deformed by this evil gas, andnot even evil gas, just bad gas,
bad gas.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Just kind of gas.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
No, gas is good gas, right?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
No, gas is good, gas Oxygen is good.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
So I guess, if we're calling gas like a periodic
element, okay sure.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Well, you know what a gas is Gaseous state.
Right, you have solid liquidand gaseous state Sure.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I like the H2O.
That's all I need.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
So basically that's the premise.
They go through the corpseforest world between life and
death and then they get to atown that has mailboxes and I
was like, wait, there's a townwith mailboxes.
That's kind of odd.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
You think they still get mail.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I'm not quite sure how you're going to get.
Why would you have mailbox?
Well, I guess maybe people hadan outgoing mail, like when you
were working there in 1946.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I mean, I guess, but would you do it at a mailbox?
You had a mailman come collectit and then ship it out, I guess
.
But it would just be easy tojust bring it to a center.
You know like, hey, I'm goingto mail this.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
It should have just been like a military town, you
know.
It should have been like LosAlamos or something as opposed
to.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
A town of some sort.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, they go in a church to sort of hide and see
what's going on, and then theyget attacked by skeletons.
Now they get attack by thesespiders.
Now are the spiders?
Are they skulls with legs?
Yeah, okay, you didn't see themwell enough.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
You didn't see them well enough and at first I was
like, oh cool, giant spiders.
And then I was like, is this askull spider?
That's less cool.
And listen, I'm sure on paper,when you're coming up with ideas
, you're like, well, what if theskulls sprout legs and kill
people?
I'm sure it sounds coolvisually.
I wasn't.
You know they're not.
It's all disappointing.

(49:41):
I hate it all.
If I'm being honest, the gorgesucks.
It's not the movie, the actualgorge, it's very video gamey,
you know super.
Yeah, this is this is the scenethat felt like watching somebody
play Resident Evil.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
It very much felt like that Spiders, she used a
big grenade booms the wholeplace.
They run.
They find this bunker in theside of the gorge.
They go inside there and theyfind the lab and this is where
they find everything out.
They find a film.
They fire up a generator.
They find out everything that'shappened.

(50:17):
There was an earthquake intheir bio lab and then it
released the bad gas.
But then they find some 80scomputers.
So they're like oh, people havebeen back down here since.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Oh dear.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
And basically on the computer it's like here's every
piece of information, completelyunencrypted.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Just double click this one file on the desktop.
We'll keep it clean.
So it's the only thing you canclick, and there you go and they
both kind of question theirlives.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I think he says it was worth all of this because I
got to know you, because I metyou.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, I would care more if I wasn't so mad at this
point.
You know, like they lost me,they lost the thread a little
bit, poor Tony, I just I wishthat it was more mysterious, you
know like visually.
there's some cool stuff, yeahRight.
I just wish that I was morelike what the hell's going on in

(51:13):
this gorge, and I'm not.
I was more like what the hell'sgoing on in this gorge, and I'm
like what the hell's going onin this gorge.
There's a difference in thoseintonations that make a world of
difference.
Second screen, Second screenit's the second screen movie.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
She forgot her ammo bag outside, which never would
have happened.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
No, she's a trained super good sniper.
That's weird.
And just in the middle of theplace like what's happening.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
So they go out, but they throw some smoke out there
and then they reach for the ammobag.
Well, it turns out the horsemandid the thing and she gets
dragged away by the horseman.
It was kind of nice.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Yeah, no, I mean, it's a fun little scene.
If he wasn't the main bad guy,it would have been fine.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
She gets knocked out.
He starts looking for her.
He finds this giant smoke pit.
He finds missiles.
She's hung up by the fire.
She fights the last guy.
Pretty good fight.
For sure, the fightchoreography on most of the
stuff.
The church was a little rockybut you can actually see what's
going on and I always felt tense.
In all the fights I was justlike, oh, I don't want my people

(52:19):
to get hurt For sure, because Icared about them.
I can't think of how many.
You can count on one hand, theamount of characters I've
actually cared about and fightIn your entire life.
No, just on our show.
Oh, I'm so funny In your entirelife.
No, just on our show.
Oh, I'm so funny.
I'm making myself laugh on mysides.
I have to hold my sides becauseI'm so funny.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Someone's got to make me laugh on this show.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Oh Jesus, oh all right, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
He comes in, shoots him.
They save the day.
And now this is the part whenthey're walking out of this
rocket lab thing, there's thislike the people that are like
gooey.
I like that.
I really liked this.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
This is where we needed to explore this more.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
They're not trees you see what I'm saying, no, I
don't know what they are and Ilike that.
But I'm like what is going onwith these people?
We don't really know and thenwe just leave them.
They just walk by them for themost part but it's fun.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
They piss it off for a second and it grabs one of
them and then they just shoot itwith a big thing and then they
leave.
I like the part she shoots itwith the flame grenade and then
she covers his body with herbody.
I wanted her to be injured fromthat.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Sure, yeah Well.
The good news is, even if shewas, it would have disappeared
in the next scene.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
So it's fine.
Okay, let's see they findmaintenance.
They get a Jeep with a winch,they go, they find the thing.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
They start winch.
How does a winch work?
Because I'm confused.
If I'm being honest, you couldget it to work, maybe, okay,
maybe.
How.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Typically a winch winches back on itself, right?
So?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
you have a winch that has I don't know, 20 feet of
cable or whatever, not 500,whatever that they said.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
But yeah, continue so you pull out the cable and then
you know, whatever there mightbe a way to wrap it around so
that it and I think that's howthey did it where okay it, it
wraps over itself and then justcontinues wrapping over itself.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Over and over.
Yeah, so it's almost like aconveyor belt at that point.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yeah, sort of.
I don't think that that wouldwork.
I think it would reach one sideand then not.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
It was weird to me, I was alittle confused, but it's fine.
I want them to get out of thegorge.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
So badly I confused, but it's it's fine, I want them
to get out of the gorge so badly.
I don't care if they flew, allright, but it's set up an
interesting thing where the, theplant zombies, are crawling up
the rope to get them.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
It's a cool.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
It's like a cool set piece and they're in the truck
and they're in the truck, youknow, shooting down and fighting
this way and fighting that way,it's shot.
Kind of weird it kind ofdoesn't work, but it's.
They didn't have enough moneyto make it look really good.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah, and then at one point he gets pinched in
between the mountain and a Jeepand screams, and then he's fine,
he can climb up the rest of themountain, all fine, it was a
little weird, a little weird.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
They finally get out, they finally cut the rope and
the Jeep falls and they all falland they finished the climb,
the bandage up, and then we kindof set up that they have to
wait five days.
Right, make sure they're notinfected by the gas, like well
we've all been through that.
You know, and he, they talk, he, I was expendable.
I was expendable.
Now I have something to livefor.

(55:53):
We could run.
No, we got to destroy it.
He tells her that he loves her.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, so now this is the part where they have to
already know that if they leavethey're going to get murdered.
Yeah, so they know that theycan't just go back.
Yeah, right, they know thatsomeone else is going to come.
They kind of have to run rightand they're like or we could
destroy the gorge?

(56:21):
Yeah, you know, and they can doall, but if we destroy it we're
probably going to die.
Right, you know, like there hasto be stakes to that sort of
thing, because just destroyingit and then going to eat at cafe
dumont is ridiculous.
Uh, so I just I wanted morestakes here.
And then going to eat at CafeDumont is ridiculous.
So I just I wanted more steakshere.
And then, you know, part of mejust wants him to like, pick
love and then let the world getrun over by monsters.

(56:41):
That would be a fun endingHateful.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Tony, that's not hateful, it's love.
So Sigourney Weaver calls himon the telephone and is all like
you're still a good boy, right?
And he's like I'm still a goodboy, right.
And he's like I'm still a goodboy.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
And then she's like looking at a video camera that
shows that he's not a good boy,and you know, similar to
oblivion.
Not that oblivion's a greatmovie, but it's the same idea
where like you're calling in,you're doing something you don't
totally know and I would preferthat.
I would prefer sigourney isjust a voice.
Just a voice and then shows upat the end.
Once we understand what'sactually happening doesn't

(57:14):
really matter, but I wantedthose check-ins to be more
dubious I guess, or somethinglike I don't know.
It's just things that are therethat feel like they should mean
something, don't really meananything, it's just.
It's almost too tidy, it'salmost too neat.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
We set up the check-ins at the beginning where
the he's like I want to saysomething, and they're like no,
click, turn off.
No, don't talk to us, don'ttalk.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Right and you're like why?
Why?
Because you're, and I stilldon't know.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
There was no reason.
You're trying to keep him there, right, and you do not want to
find a new guy, so you should belike how's it going?
Yeah, your drops.
It should be.
There should be a friendlyvoice on that other end.
Yeah, that makes him think thathe's working for the friendlies

(58:05):
.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Yeah, you know I'll oblivion Not that she would,
because she was weird the wholetime as well, but the idea is
like we're pretending to be thegood guys on the phone, but
really we're the bad guys.
Yeah, because I need that.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah, you don't need that guy on the phone treating
you like shit.
You're like why is he treatinghim like shit?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I'm not going to call you ever again you son of a
bitch, because they have nocontrol over him you need to
retain control over him heshould almost be looking forward
to the one piece of humancontact a month.
He gets you know, like how'sthe outside, what's going on?
Like I need this humanconnection.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Getting the baseball scores or whatever.
And that was the thing I alsowas sort of there.
At a certain point I was like,well, maybe she's playing him, I
know she's not.
But in a different movie youwould have set up, you would
have made the two of them alittle, you'd have picked one
side.
I have a serial.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
And you'd have been like.
Can he trust her exactly?
That would be something.
Yeah, you know, and maybe she'slike we got to go down in the.
You know there's a differentmovie there.
They really wanted to do thelove story.
The love story really worked.
But yeah, for a while you couldhave, at a certain point you

(59:20):
could have gone and been likeadd some, add another layer.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Add a layer to it.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Second screen.
Shut the Too many layers in asecond screen.
So basically Sigourney Weaver'speople come on a helicopter and
just sort of land there and ourguys could have just shot them
to death in one second andkilled them.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
They're snipers guys, what are we even thinking?
That was a horribly dangerousidea.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
And then we have the part of the movie I truly hated,
which were these machine gundrones that came out of the mist
and tried to kill them, andthey were the least professional
.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
I mean the sniper should have been.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
You know, I'm behind a tree.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
And at one point he's just laying on the ground and
just shoots it with a handgun.
I was like that should nothappen.
That should not be possiblewith an AI drone.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Have you ever watched real drone footage on YouTube?
Not really, no, oh my God, it'sso terrible, you know, like you
have the rebel people in theirlittle truck and then it's just
like it just goes.
They just the first, you know,they just cease to exist.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
It's so terrible.
It's so terrible, it's justlike awful.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
It's so inhuman.
But that's where war is at withdrones.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
War is awful.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
The drones are very successful at what they do and
have these minigun drones it'sreally dopey.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
No, these were not good drones.
Maybe they're just old.
Maybe they started in 1942 orwhenever the war was.
What war was this?

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
It was the end of World War II.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, I was close with the year, right?
What did you say?
I have no idea I don't want totalk about it, I said 1942.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
What are?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
the years of World War II, tony?
I don't know, I don't know.
What are the years of World WarII, tony?
I don't know, I don't knowanything.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
When did we drop the bombs?

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
on Japan D-Day.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Was that right, or was that the opposite?
Do you even know what D-Day is?

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
D-Day is when we got bombed right.
You don't know what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
D-Day is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I just said it isn't it.
I was right.
Right, it's with the boat.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
No, it's not the boat , the boat you mean Pearl Harbor
, that's the one.
Yeah, pearl Harbor is when theJapanese sneak attack does, at
Pearl Harbor, which is in Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
And that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
D-Day.
D-day is, I'm not sure whenD-Day was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
See, you don't know anything either.
Well, I know exactly what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
D-Day is D-Day is saving Private Ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I've seen that film At the beginning of that where
they stormed the beaches ofNormandy.
Oh sure, yeah, yeah yeah.
That's a sad movie.
I don't like that movie one bit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah, they kill the sniper in that movie Boo Boo.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I knew they were going to kill him.
They kill a lot of people inthat movie Because he has like
Barry Pepper playing the sniper.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
I'm like.
This is the greatest characterof all time.
This is who I want to be andthey're like, but you know
you're going to kill him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
You don't want to be him Dan.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
No, it's pretty cool.
There's, like this, one, reallyfamous Russian sniper in World
War II.
Oh man, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
He killed so many people.
When they were talking aboutMiles Teller's confirmed kills
they were like a hundred,something like that felt like a
lot right, not a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I I mean I don't know , but that's just way too many
you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Just it felt like a lot and I don't know anything
about, but I was like, let's youknow, he's still a couple of a
week.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
He's still a young guy and and he's never gonna be.
You know, it's like you're inworld war ii.
Every day you're gonna go outand try and kill one or two
people, right?
So yeah, you do that for acouple years you're going to go
out and try and kill one or twopeople, right?
So you do that for a coupleyears you're going to have a big
pile of bodies, but in moremodern warfare, one guy's just
not going to have a I don'tthink.

(01:03:06):
Who knows?
So, basically, they blow thecloakers, which means that the
spy satellites can see it, whichmeans that people are going to
know that the gorge is there alittle, a little bit of stretch,
and so they set off theprotocol which drops the bomb
down in there.
The bomb explodes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
They've been running away and then why did they need
to do the first part if they'rejust going to blow it up?

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
what's the first part ?

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
taking the cloakers down so that people can know
that it's there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
The cloakers is what causes stray dog to to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Oh, so, so, okay.
So there it's a chain reactionwhere it's like we lost our
cloakers, we have to blow thething.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Yes, because we can't be found out.
All right yeah, as right yeah,so they run the proper distance.
It blows up.
Anya Taylor-Joy waits in a cavefor five days.
She's not infected.
She goes to this place wherethey decided to go to.
Oh, he gave her the poem, soshe gets to read the poem in a

(01:04:10):
month, and then he doesn't showup for a couple of months for
unknowable reasons.
And then he shows up month, andthen he doesn't show up for a
couple of months for unknowablereasons and then he shows up
yeah, what's he doing for months?

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
That seems Hobbling.
I guess he had to walk all theway back and that's a long ways.
How do they get back, you thinkDan, to where you think?
They just walk?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Well because it's 38 miles or whatever, to the drop
zone but they can't just getpicked up A lot further out to
civilization?

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Well, these are pros.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Survival skills Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah, sure, she seems fine.
Yeah, they both seem prettyokay if they walked, you know,
thousand miles to civilization.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
She's so hot, she just meets anyone and they're
all like.
I'll take you anywhere Come oninto my truck.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
I'll drive you where you want to go.
Here is so much money.
I only have three credit cards,but just spread it out among
all three.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I was watching Saturday Night Live had Sidney
Sweeney on.
I guess this year I didn't know.
Sure I hadn't seen it, but theydid a Hooters one where the
other waitresses and Bowen Yangdon't get any action and then
she gets all the action.
Kenan's character runs in.
You know he's like.
I went to the bank, it took outall my money here's, here's

(01:05:19):
thirty thousand dollars you knowyou're like, ah, the truth of
reality.
Yeah, and they live happily everafter.
And the, the sigourney weaver'scompany, dark cloud, cloud or
whatever it was, is makingzombie plant men, super soldiers
, right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Yeah, and we don't care.
I guess, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
It just felt weird.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I'm sure it's another movie, but should they have a
happy ending, they're the onlypeople on Earth that know the
truth of this dark federation.
That's not the right word.
Business.
This is dark business.
This is dark corporation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Business, dark business, dark corporation,
corporation.
That's good.
Miles Teller's going to wake upand he's going to be like the
plant man, the plant man, theplant man.
And she's going to be like okay, honey, we'll go kill every.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I guess we gotta go kill them all, we'll go kill all
the corporate assholes, I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
There it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
It's just weird, I just let down Second screen.
I wish I would have had one.
What?

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
do you mean You're sitting in bed next to your wife
?

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
But I like to watch our movies Because I gotta talk
about them Half intellectually.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Yeah, but there's your question If you'd have been
watching this, not for the show.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
I would have been fine Would you have had your
phone.
Honestly, even if I waswatching it for the show knowing
now what I know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
You did watch it for the show.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Right, but at the time I was like I should pay
attention.
But hindsight's, 20-20 and Icould have definitely
second-screened this movie andstill got all of the information
that I got out of it the firsttime.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
You know, it's like I'm always writing stuff down.
I had to stop a couple of timesbecause a lot of things did,
you know.
Actually I had to stop a coupleof times because good things
were happening, you know, andyou saw the first half of the
movie, the first half of themovie You're like oh, oh, wow,
that's really nice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Yeah, this is interesting, this is lovely,
this is great.
Let's go into the gorge andjust forget everything and do a
piece of shit movie.
Yeah, that's right and it'scalled the Gorge, so that should
be the good part of the movie.
It should only elevate in thesecond act and it just flatlines
.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
But I got to say this was probably the least painful
movie we've ever done, in myopinion.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
I mean it's definitely up there.
I can't remember 98% of themovies we've done, but it's
definitely up there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
I just sat there and watched it.
At no point did I be like, ohGod, I need a second screen or
I'm going to die.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
I laughed a lot in the Gorge, I'll tell you that.
But before that I was totallyin.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I really enjoyed it, tony.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
It's a fine movie yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
I look forward to whatever the writers and
director do after this.
Sure, sure, good luck to them.
Good luck to them.
I looked at the Rotten Tomatoesand it's like critics was 66,
normal human beings with 73.
And I bet you they didn't spenda bunch of money doing fake
reviews for it.
That's like a real it's a real73 or 77 or whatever it was.

(01:08:24):
You're like that's what themovie is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
It's not like the poor Snow White movie.
That's like negative 100.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I mean we're definitely going to do that when
it comes to streaming.
No, we're not.
We are absolutely doing that weare gonna do snow white, I
don't care what you say I needto see it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
We've never done any of the disney live action, but I
need this.
There's so much drama around it, just in general I have to see
it it's probably worth watchingjust to see how terrible gal
gadot is, Cause she is supposedto be.
She's gotta be pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
She's supposed to be terrible.
Listen, I like her, but she'snot.
She's good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Versatile.
She was good.
She was really good in thefirst wonder woman.
That was a really good movie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Cause she's, she's.
You know she can play a bad-assaction star.
This is not that you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I'm pretty excited we're doing it.
I don't care what you say, I'mvery excited.
It's months away.
I'll probably forget.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Now we talk about something we like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Tony, what did you like this week?
The end of another wonderfulseason of Reacher.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
last night, no Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Dude, I love this show.
Are all the seasons as good asseason one?
No, yeah, they're not.
Season one is pretty, nice,perfect show, really.
It's a perfect show for me, uh,but they're still great.
I still I love him.
He is just dynamite, I, I, andthe show it ends really nicely
and there's just like thisbeautiful shot at the end of him

(01:09:53):
riding away in a motorcycle,and I was like, fuck, this is a
cool show.
I you know I I'll watch thisuntil it ends, without a doubt.
This is, this is.
This is a show for me.
I love it and he's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
He's a badass and he's a cool dude in real life
too, he's so cool dude, he, he'sso cool.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Uh, apparently he wrote and uh directed a horror
movie or something, and so Ineed to find this movie and I
need to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Okay, okay, okay.
What do you got, dan?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I watched the residence oh, that is on my list
.
How is that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
shondaland's uh mystery.
I will.
I'll watch just about anymystery, right?
I love mysteries.
I loved it.
I love the form and to see howpeople deal with it.
Um, except for you, don't watch.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Psych, so I've watched some of that, yeah.
I know you've watched some ofit.
You watch all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Cover to cover multiple times that's a TV
that's like a.
You know, I like to watchprestige format TV.
How?

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
dare you.
Usa TV is the pinnacle oftelevision.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
The people in this show, the actors, yeah, good,
who all you got so good?
Well, the woman was crazy eyesin Orange is the New Black,
which I only saw a little bit ofthat show.
Okay, and then GiancarloEsposito plays the main

(01:11:25):
character.
It was Andrew Brower, but hedied in the middle of filming it
.
So they had to recast and goback and do it again.
Oh wow, okay, your boy tarynkillam's in here.
Very good, um, what's his namethere's another bronson pinchot
was in it.
Bronson pinchot, I did not evenrecognize him.

(01:11:47):
Wow, okay, he's very good.
Um and like, because it's aboutthe White House and the people
they have playing.
Yeah, like the staff, theAfrican-American staff, and
they're just.
There are some performances inthis show that you're just like.
This is a real, this feels likea real person and it's just

(01:12:09):
written really well and theprimary detective woman I just
loved, loved, you know it's.
She was just great and the waythey wrote it was great it.
You know it is eight episodes.
You know an hour, our lastcouple, I think an hour and 15.
An hour and a half, it's a lot.
Yeah, for sure, al frankenplays, uh, like a senator, and

(01:12:32):
you know know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
A little on the nose.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
He's great.
He knows what he's doing hey,there you go.
But just so much humanity in it.
I just it blew me away Allright.
Like I say, other than you know, but they do a really good job
of letting you keep track of allthese characters, because it's

(01:13:00):
so many characters?

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
They do the due diligence.
So if you were to watch one aweek, you would not go back in
and be like who is this?
What is this?
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
What's happening?
For sure back in and be likewho is this?
What is this?
What's going on?
What's happening?
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Because it's a lot of fast forwards.
You know what's that when youshow something that already
happened?
Flashbacks Flashbacks, that'swhat they're called.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Backflash.
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
So there's a lot of that, and the way that they
handle that is really smart.
Oh, and what's his name?
Park randall park?
Oh, sure, yeah, the he's.
He's so good.
And this is this I think.
You know I didn't really watch,was he fresh off the boat.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Is that the way he did?

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
yeah, you know it's a standard sitcom.
It's kind of stuff tony likes,you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
I do like a good sitcom.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
But yeah, it's just this really nice light comedy
zone that he gets to live in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
And he's great.
Yeah, we started watching asitcom.
Speaking of that, did you PointGuard, taking point, high point
?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
It's a basketball show.
Is that the one where the guy'sin the hospital bed in the
promo.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Yeah, yep, yeah, yeah , what's the end?
And it's good, it's fine.
Yeah, it's totally fine.
Yeah, we're having a good time,it's all right kate it's not
kate winslet.
What's hudson?
Kate hudson?
Oh, there we go.
That's who's uh the lead ladyin it, but uh, yeah, it's fun
it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
I think I watched three of the one, with the only
sunny woman, that her you knowsolving the crimes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Oh, high Potential.
Yeah, I watched like three ofthose.
Yeah, we like that show.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Yeah, she's great, you know, she's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Yeah, she's wonderful .
She's Her other show.
I think it was the last one.
She did the Mick or whatever.
That was also really fun too.
So she's great and she's gonnakeep killing it.
Yeah, she's great.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Tony, we need a movie for next week.
We had a decent movie this week.
We had a decent movie last week.
I don't know.
The podcast is off.
It's off the rails If you don'tfind us something, that's truly
terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
I'm not doing it.
I think we're going to watchsomething that's pretty good.
We've been talking about it fora couple weeks.
You brought it up.
It's cleaner.
Of course I need to see it.
It's Die Hard with a hotelcleaning lady or something.
Window washer.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I don't really remember what it is.
It's a hotel cleaning lady.
I don't know.
I'm here, I I don't know I'mhere.
I'm here to clean your windows.
What are you doing?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Fighting terrorists.
I think Clive Owen is aterrorist, so that should be
good, you know, yeah, we'regoing to watch Cleaner.
It's out on VOT.
It's going to be great, itcould be good.
I don't know who is it?
Daisy Ridley.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Is that who that is?
I Daisy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Ridley.
I like Daisy Ridley yeah, metoo.
So we're going to watch it, seewhat's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
I never saw the last Star Wars movie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Well, if people are to believe, you didn't miss
anything, did you?

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
ever see the final Star Wars movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Yeah, we saw it in theaters.
It's 90 to 95% fan service ohokay, you know what I mean and
like a little bit of retconningAfter the middle one that
everyone seemed to hate but Iactually really liked a lot.
So it's just, it's not a greatmovie, but there's a lot of fan
service.
So if you like Star Wars, youknow.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
You like the gambling planet?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah, I love the gambling.
No, I mean, I don't care aboutthe gambling.
I liked Luke's storyline.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Oh, okay, that's fine , I enjoyed that yeah, sure, but
as long as you didn't like thegambling storyline and you
didn't like this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
I mean, it's my favorite planet they've ever
done Damn.
Okay, Because there's gambling.
The slow speed outer spacechase yeah, that's good.
That's good too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
A lot of great stuff and poor Rose.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
You were just like could a character be shit on
anymore?
They effed her so hard, Verysad.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
It's like why is this character here and why are you
doing this to this poorcharacter?
I rarely feel empathy for acharacter in a movie.
You're just like, oh man bro,they did you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Yeah, they did you dirty.
Yeah, it's tough.
It's tough, very unnecessary.
You can't win them all, no, youcan't.
At least you're getting donedirty in a Star Wars movie, so a
billion people are seeing it.
That's something, is that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
good?
I don't think that's good, Tony.
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
It could be seen as worse because more people are
seeing.
I don't know.
That's a hard question toanswer.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
I'd rather be in a small bad movie than in one of
the world's biggest movies.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Well sure, but, would you rather be in a good small
movie that nobody sees, or a badbig movie that everybody sees?

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
nobody sees, or a bad big movie that everybody sees
and hates you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
I'd rather be in the small movie that is that shows
me.
Nobody knows you see but I wantto be shown in a good light,
whatever I do well, some of usdon't have that option, okay, so
some of us will take what wecan get.
Dan, yeah, but you weren't instar wars, I wasn't in anything.
I, yeah, I have a.
I have a movie coming out.
It's called Isaac.
The trailer dropped you did.
I'm not going to comment on itbecause I am in the film, but it

(01:18:20):
doesn't look great.
But I'm very excited, veryexcited.
It's coming out, finally comingout.
I shot that like three yearsago.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Oh, wow, very small part.
There it is.
Yeah, it's about to blow up?

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Yeah, probably not.
I feel like what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Remember when we just said bad small movie, that's
probably where we're at.
Oh well, there's a lot of badsmall movies, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Yeah, I'm in a couple of them.
Yeah, that's great, sorry, yeah, continue your pitch, corbin
Brinson.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Sweet Corbin, leave us a comment, give us a thumbs
up or subscribe, and we'll beback next week talking about oh,
the cleaner, the cleaner.
Goodbye everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
It's like watching, yeah.

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