November 5, 2025 • 62 mins
A treasure map, a fragile neighborhood, and a pirate ship that still makes your jaw drop. We dive deep into The Goonies with a clear-eyed look at what makes this 80s classic endure: the scrappy heart of kids trying to save their homes, the handmade magic of practical effects, and the messy, joyous tone that Spielberg, Richard Donner, and Chris Columbus stitched together at the height of their powers.
We unpack the film’s world-building through details that feel lived in: the Rube Goldberg gate as a friendship ritual, denim and Members Only jackets that stamp the year without turning into parody, and set pieces that favor tactile danger over digital gloss. From the bone organ’s nerve-wracking puzzle to the cavern’s booby traps, the movie keeps stakes simple and specific. We also get honest about pacing and the looseness of 80s PG, pointing to subplots that could run tighter and jokes that age unevenly while still celebrating the cast’s chemistry, including Sean Astin’s warmth, Josh Brolin’s steady big-brother energy, and the Fratellis’ Three Stooges chaos.
Then we map the lineage forward: why Stranger Things feels like Goonies’ modern heir, how the Duffer Brothers channel Spielbergian wonder, and what Sean Astin’s later role signals about the values that tie these stories together. Add in behind-the-scenes lore—the deleted octopus, the genuine reactions to the real ship, the Superman cue for Sloth, and that sprawling Cyndi Lauper video cameoing 80s wrestling—and you’ve got a full picture of a film that’s equal parts artifact and alive.
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JOE (00:00):
Dylan you Goonie!
DYLAN (00:21):
Welcome to Have You Seen the Movie Podcast, where every
movie is a premiere.
JOE (00:26):
We're heading to the Oregon coast for a treasure map, a
pirate ship, and one of the mosticonic kid adventures ever
made.
The Goonies.
DYLAN (00:35):
This week's movie, The Goonies, came out in 1985 and is
rated PG.
But let's be honest, it's oneof those 80s PG movies that
probably wouldn't be PG today,so listener discretion is
advised.
So yeah, I to start it off, Iactually had one of my trainers
(00:57):
at work who she was, I told herthat I hadn't really seen
movies.
And so she she was saying,like, I need to go watch the
Goonies.
JOE (01:10):
She was saying you need to go watch the Goonies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
DYLAN (01:13):
Yeah, because she didn't know, you know, we did this.
Yeah.
And so um, but yeah, so she shewas saying that I need to go
watch the Goonies, and it's herfavorite, and both of her kids,
you know, their favorite, theywatch it all the time, she said.
JOE (01:28):
Yeah.
Yeah, it it is one of thoselike comfort food type movies.
Yeah.
You know, it's just, I mean,you know, even the setting is
kind of in that like, I want toget a bowl of soup and climb
into a blanket.
Uh it's you know, mid-80s, uhSpielbergs on the top.
(01:49):
Uh uh Richard Donner, uh, youknow, he he was the man who who
showed people that a man couldfly on film.
Yeah, you know, did Supermanone and two.
Um Chris Columbus was up andcoming as a writer.
He would go on to do Pirates ofthe Caribbean.
Oh yeah, yeah.
(02:11):
Um I have a story about himlater, but uh uh yeah, it it
just you have these this perfectstorm and a perfect uh you know
summer movie, and you know, umjust just a good good recipe for
a good movie.
DYLAN (02:31):
Yeah.
JOE (02:32):
So uh so yeah, quick plot rundown.
Group of kids find a treasuremap and go on a wild adventure
to save their home fromforeclosure, dodging criminals,
and booby traps along the way.
DYLAN (02:47):
One of my like favorite parts of this movie was watching
all of like the the RubeGoldberg machines.
JOE (02:54):
Oh, okay.
DYLAN (02:55):
That's that's what those are called with all the
different elements and stuff,and I love that.
Like that that was so cool,like just watching everything
get put together.
Yeah.
JOE (03:06):
Yeah, the even just getting into the house and all the
conjunctions.
Right.
Yeah, you know, the funny thingabout um the Goonies and the
whole adventure thing is thekids in that movie.
Uh I have pictures of mybrother at that time, and he
(03:31):
dressed exactly like that.
DYLAN (03:32):
Oh yeah.
JOE (03:33):
Yeah.
I mean, um it if you lookaround, there is a lot of print
stuff.
Uh I even noticed in one of thekids' rooms there's a whole
like like poster of Prince andhis band.
You know, like in it's like, Idon't know if it's it looks like
it's a painting, but it mightbe a poster.
(03:54):
I'm assuming it's a poster, butuh Mouth is wearing a purple
rain shirt on, and you know,it's just like it's just the
setting of the times.
And I have like I said, I havepictures of my brother wearing
the exact same the um membersonly coat that that Mouth is
wearing with the with the purplerain shirt.
(04:15):
That was a thing.
Uh, you know, so it's justyeah, it just um the the way
they dress, the who they are.
Uh Mikey, I have a picture ofmy brother just completely in
denim, just like Mikey, and andjust yeah, it those kids
represented us at the time, youknow.
Yeah.
At least me, because that'sthat's the age I was.
DYLAN (04:38):
Right.
Yeah, I think I think for likea first watch through, I would
say, I would say it's prettygood.
Uh-huh.
I don't know if it wouldnecessarily if it would
necessarily be my run-to moviefor, you know, but you know,
chicken soup for the soul.
Yeah, right.
But like, but I would say it'sit's pretty good.
(05:02):
It there's definitely parts ofit that like given the PG rating
that it had and how loose theywere, you know, back then with
the rating system and stuff, I'dbe like, ooh, that's that
bumped it up a rating.
JOE (05:20):
Yeah, and I don't know, like, I guess you could say it
it was looser, but I don't thinkthat it was looser.
Um yeah, because some of themovies that are coming out right
now, it's just like, what inthe heck?
Like, how how is that even notrated worse than it is?
Yeah, it's just yeah.
(05:42):
Um, but yeah, the these arekids, and I think that's where
they were coming from.
Like Spielberg and Donner were,you know, it's like these kids
have a mouth, you know, and evenMouth is named Mouth for you
know uh before even all thedialogue that he has with the
with the movie.
DYLAN (06:02):
Yeah, it's like but yeah, how how do you feel like the
pacing holds up throughout themovie?
JOE (06:14):
It tells a lot, and it's crazy because I guess the
original was like seven hoursbecause there's all kinds of
other like if they would were tohave found all the footage to
make it seven hours, yeah, thethis day and age they could make
it a series, right?
You know, and actually havechapters and have a beginning
(06:38):
and end to each thing, but withit being what was it an hour and
a half, maybe?
DYLAN (06:44):
Um just under two hours, I think.
JOE (06:48):
So I think it does slow down a bit, and again, in these
times you could do that, and andthey got away with it,
obviously, back then.
Yeah, but and you also have toconsider we didn't have back
then Netflix or any of that TVwas pretty much like you had
(07:14):
your episodics and sitcoms, andyou wouldn't have something as
high budgeted, like all the proyou know, effects and props and
things like that.
Right.
So it's really hard to look atit from this lens of today,
because yeah, you can pace itbetter, you can write it better,
(07:36):
but again, you had all thesethree guys that were on the top
of their game.
Um so you kind of have to giveit some some leeway there, yeah.
Uh when you're looking at it.
Um but there are definitelysome even in the looking at it
(07:57):
through the time of the lens,and there are definitely some
slow parts.
And there are it feels likethere's some little subplots in
there that are like, okay, it'sI still feel like it's slowing
it down a little bit.
Yeah.
Uh there's a lot of buildupwith with like chunk and and sl
(08:17):
uh sloth and yeah, you know,that kind of stuff.
I think it could have been alittle faster.
DYLAN (08:24):
Yeah, you could have definitely tightened that up.
JOE (08:26):
Yeah.
And I don't really feel likethe boyfriend stuff, uh, the uh
what's his name?
The the son who's um the son ofthe the dad who's trying to
take away the house, how he'skind of interwoven into Tony.
Yeah, yeah.
(08:46):
So he's like interwoven intoeverything.
And it's like I think thatcould be faster too.
DYLAN (08:52):
Yeah, I did kind of wonder why he was he kept
popping up in things.
Uh-huh.
And I almost wonder if theywould have made him out to be
like kind of the the realtor oryou know, whoever he was, like
his son.
Uh-huh.
I think if they would have madethat out from the get-go, it
might have paid off more becausethen we already know that we
(09:16):
don't like this guy.
JOE (09:18):
Yeah.
DYLAN (09:18):
Other than the fact that they really made Tony to at the
beginning to really come acrossas just kind of a creep.
He's older, he drives, and thewhole time he was driving, he
was adjusting the mirror to lookdown her shirt.
Or there was one shot where itlooked like he was trying to see
(09:41):
up her skirt.
Yeah.
And it's like, that's that'sjust don't be don't be creepy,
dude.
Like Yeah.
JOE (09:49):
And I and you know, like people people would say that's
an ick today, and I think theywould say that's an ick back
then.
Yeah.
And and that was the point.
Right.
You know, like how they canbuild a build up a creepy
person.
Right.
You know.
Um, I mean, obviously StrangerThings took from all those
(10:10):
movies, you know.
The adventure, the um you know,the just the a bunch of kids
get together to um, you know,complete a task, whether it's
you know, killing aliens or orhelping an alien.
DYLAN (10:30):
Right.
Uh-huh.
Well, because with likeStranger Things is basically
like the grown-up 1980s remix ofthe Goonies and those different
Spielberg movies.
And um you can see a lot ofSpielberg's fingerprints just
all over Stranger Things.
(10:51):
And the Duffer brothers, whoare the creators of Stranger
Things, um pretty much said thattheir show is a love letter to
Spielberg for things like E.T.
and the poltergeist and thegoodies.
So, you know, it's like bothboth movies, or you know, the
(11:13):
movies and the show um center onjust ordinary kids in
extraordinary circumstances, um,you know, navigating you know,
supernatural threats while theadults have are mostly clueless.
Right.
So pretty much each of thecharacters in Stranger Things,
(11:34):
like how each character, youknow, goes back and forth with
both groups and um is prettymuch not a cop not a copy, but
definitely a a faithful rewrite.
Yeah, if you would.
JOE (11:51):
Yeah, there's yeah.
They and they intentionally didthat, which is fine.
Like I don't think that youknow, even if even if they said,
okay, you know, this characteris comes from this person, you
know, like there's a chunk,there's a mouth, there's a you
know um I can't remember hisname in Stranger Things, where
(12:15):
he he starts off as the bullybut then turns into an
overarching character throughoutYeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he becomes a overarchingcharacter throughout the the
series, but then you have theother one who um ends up dying
and his sister kind of goes onthrough the through the um the
(12:39):
series in it.
Am I spoiling things?
No.
DYLAN (12:46):
I uh can't afford Netflix enough to justify watching that
show over and over again, sowhere both of them take place,
um small town America and umboth use kind of realistic
neighborhoods and more worn downAmericana versus the the fresh
(13:14):
and shiny.
Right.
JOE (13:16):
And it's definitely it definitely bleens into more of a
you know that grimy adventurerealism compared to the overly
polished yeah, and the whole thewhole idea of being a goony is
a person who lives in thegoondocks, which is like the
boondocks, and and so like aboonie, you know, living in the
(13:38):
boonies, you know.
And so that whole that wholething with with the kids and in
Stranger Things, it's like okay,you have um okay, I don't have
everybody's name, but themetalhead guy who lives in a
trailer park, you know.
Yeah um who who does his wholelike Master of Puppets thing,
you know.
I mean, when was the lastepisode?
(14:00):
Like five years ago.
So don't get mad at me for notknowing these characters' names.
Right.
So bring it back already.
DYLAN (14:11):
Yeah, well, it's coming out next month.
Okay, and so um I have it timedout to where I watch one
episode a day and then the thevery like last episode of
previous seasons is the nightbefore the next one comes out.
JOE (14:31):
Yeah.
I mean, and you have to hand itto them because we just watch
Goonies and Who Shows Up in partof the series.
Sean Aston, Mikey, is inStranger Things.
Oh?
Yeah, he plays um, let's see.
All I remember is that um he hehe dies, but he's in uh scrubs.
(14:56):
He's uh um Oh, he's like in thelab.
Yeah.
No, no, he's no, he's acharacter.
Um I'm gonna look him up andsee what his name is.
DYLAN (15:07):
Oh, Bob Newby.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's um in season two.
Yeah.
Yeah, because they the uh theDuffer brothers cast him like
intentionally as a nod to theGoonies.
And okay.
Um he like in the show, Bobeven talks about growing up in
Hawkins and wanting to move toMaine.
(15:30):
Uh huh.
His yeah, his line, Bob's lineof what's at the center of the
maze, um, just it harkens backto the wholesome nature of
Mikey's earnest.
JOE (15:46):
Oh, okay.
DYLAN (15:46):
That's yeah, that's why it's written that way.
JOE (15:49):
Yeah, that's funny.
No, but yeah, I mean that's athat's a huge tribute to to
Goonies and even all the othermovies that he's been into to
put him in Stranger Things, likeyou know.
DYLAN (16:01):
Um yeah, going re-watching Stranger Things,
I'll definitely have to pay paymore attention to that.
JOE (16:10):
Yeah, and like you know, going back to comparison with
E.T.
Um you know, Stand By Me andsome of the Stephen King movies
were an influence on um StrangerThings, and uh you know, Corey
Feldman is in both Goonies, andthen he was in Stand By Me.
(16:33):
And he plays a much differentcharacter, and that group of
boys, man, like out of Goonies,there's some it's mostly a
comedy.
Yeah.
And um, you know, there's someheartfelt stuff in there, but
but stand by me, man, there'ssome deep like there's they're
(16:56):
little kids and there's somedeep wounds, you know, just
family stuff, getting bullied,trying to survive getting
bullied, like just um it's justit's just crazy.
Um we'll have to watch that onetoo, just to track along with
the Stranger Things stuff.
(17:16):
But yeah, but yeah, CoreyFelman, and then he he's in Lost
Boys later on, but you know, wecan talk more about that.
Okay, so well one of myfavorite performances by Sean
Aston was in fif uh 51st dates.
Yeah.
Because he plays the brother ofof this girl, and he plays this
(17:38):
like you know, muscle guy, andhe wears a uh like see-through
shirt half the time, like withyou know, one of those like it
looks like a um a jersey kind ofthing that you'd wear for
football.
And oh yeah, you know, he'sjust like pumping, yeah, pumping
the weights, and he's likeoiled, and you know, because
they live in Hawaii, so he'slike tanned and he you know one
(18:01):
of like muscle guys, and it'sjust it's just hilarious to see
him in that that characterbecause you don't really see him
that often that way.
Yeah.
And then also, you know, Ithink he trained in Goonies so
that he could be Samwise in Lordof the Rings.
And and you know, his again,his character, his softness, his
(18:25):
his heart, all that kind ofstuff, um shows through in Lord
of the Rings.
And I'm not even sure.
I mean, it seems like he's thattype of person when I've seen
interviews and things like that.
He just seems like a verysensitive, um, caring person,
you know, and so it just comesout in those characters, but uh
(18:45):
you know, in that 51st datesone, it's just not not the same,
yeah.
You know.
Um and then yeah, again, he isthe heart of the group for for
sure.
DYLAN (18:59):
Yeah, yeah.
And he he definitely keeps thattrue, you know, with Goonies
never say die.
JOE (19:09):
Right, right.
So this is our time right here.
Yeah.
And uh so then Josh Brolin isthat's this is his first movie.
Um, it was his first?
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
And his dad was James Brolin,so he was already he already
kind of grew up in the industry,but yeah, you know, he had to
(19:30):
make it his his own.
And for sure.
Yeah.
DYLAN (19:33):
So definitely good did good.
I think he's one of my favoritecharacters.
JOE (19:37):
Yeah, yeah.
And you can see that you know,just what was ahead of him, and
and I always thought he was themeaner older brother, and he
kind of was, but at the sametime, he was he was kind of
along for the ride too, becausehe he I think he had some faith
in his brother that I think heknows what he's doing.
DYLAN (19:54):
This this guy's on to something.
Well, and like it definitely hedefinitely starts off the movie
as not even necessarily themeaner older brother, but like
he you can definitely tell thathe cared.
And even if they did it in abrotherly fashion, yeah, you
know, he's you could still feelthat through the character.
JOE (20:17):
Yeah, having grown up, probably being more the Mikey to
to you know, my brother's uhbrand, yeah.
Uh, you know, you you kind ofsee where a caring brother will
follow his little brother to acertain extent, and then because
there's points where like,okay, he goes along with it, and
(20:37):
he's like, Alright, let's we'redone.
Let's, you know, and so it'sjust then when later on when
he's like, No, I'm the oldest, Iyou know I'm saying, yeah,
exactly.
So, yeah, there's justdefinitely a good play on that.
Um Yeah, and then CoreyFeldman, uh, again, like Lost
(20:59):
Boys, Stand By Me, uh, withMouth.
Um he auditioned, and um Iguess Jeff Cohen, who played
Chunk, auditioned for Mouth, butthey thought he would be a
better chunk.
Yeah, you know, yeah, and soand then Corey Fellman also ran
(21:21):
into Corey Haim, which CoreyHaim and Corey Fellman ended up
having multiple movies later on,but that was their first
meeting was this audition.
Yeah, and so it that was kindof like you know Laurel and
Hardy meeting, or John Lennonand you know Paul McCartney,
(21:41):
like they did so many moviestogether after this that it was
like it was just a chanceencounter kind of thing.
Like, this is gonna be yourfuture, guys.
Yeah.
DYLAN (21:51):
So yeah, I think Mouth was definitely probably one of
my lesser, lesser likedcharacters.
Oh yeah.
I I don't know.
I just I wasn't here for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But Chunk Chunk was funny.
Chunk has you written all overit.
Sorry, Joe.
JOE (22:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Oh yeah, Chunk definitely wasme.
I think, man, I think he wasactually more daring than I was,
uh, as far as like I I it'sfunny because I feel like Chunk
was also a mouth in in someways.
Yeah, you know, like he hewould say things and do things
(22:32):
that that were not, you know,like it's almost like they kept
the characters, but they stillswitched.
I don't know.
It's like uh I think mouth wasmeant to be more of a
impersonator, likeimpersonating, you know, at the
beginning you kind of get thatfeeling of him, you know,
quoting um uh Three Stooges andand other TV shows because it
(22:54):
seemed like he's always watchingTV, yeah.
Um, but I feel like that kindof dies down after a while, and
it's more it's more mouthy asfar as language, talking back,
yeah, talking back.
But yeah, Chunks great.
Um, you know, he he um I yeah,I can't I kind of say like I
(23:16):
definitely identify with himwith the eating.
DYLAN (23:20):
Yeah.
JOE (23:21):
I mean, there's not much to say about the truffle shuffle,
but I think it where they pickup, they throw you in the middle
of all these friends, right?
And so they have theseestablished things that they do,
and so they have this wholedevice to open the gate, and
Mouth doesn't want to open thegate until Chunk does the
(23:44):
trouble shuffle, and that'spicking up his shirt and moving
around his, you know, jigglingaround his fat essentially.
DYLAN (23:53):
And is that was that like a dance at the time, or just
something that they just threwin there?
JOE (23:59):
It was just something they threw in there.
It was just one of those thingsthat you know we're we're
friends and we all have thisthing.
DYLAN (24:07):
Right.
Here's an inside joke, yeah.
JOE (24:09):
Yeah, yeah.
There there was uh and I thinkthe cartons back to this, like
it calls back to um there usedto be uh the little rascals, and
it was like old black and whiteshow, and you had all these
kids that would play togetherand they would get in the all
these little adventures, right?
(24:30):
But they were like innocentlittle uh were kind of stealing
ice cream from the ice creamtruck or like you know, you
know, trying to get alfalfa intothe uh you know, talent show or
something, right?
And they had the the He-ManWoman Tators Club, yeah, and
they had this little clubhouse,and in order to get into the
(24:50):
clubhouse, you had to do thecall sign.
DYLAN (24:52):
Yep.
JOE (24:53):
And the call sign was basically you put your hand uh
under your chin and you wave,right?
DYLAN (24:58):
Yeah, yeah.
I love I I still do that topeople.
Exactly.
JOE (25:03):
Yeah, I grew up doing that.
My uncle used to do that to me,and and so we used to we used
to watch those um during theday, and so I think some of that
is built into this where theyhave these little like, you
know, it's Spielberger andDonner, so they grew up watching
these these uh old littlerascals and you know, our gang
and all that, and so they builtin these little things.
(25:26):
So I think that's kind of whereit came from.
Yeah, that that's where I canlogically um link back to link
back to it is just they have thethey kind of their house is
kind of the clubhouse when theparents are gone, and so they're
this is how they they treat it,you know, and and so that
truffle shuffle, I think, isjust that.
And I guess the funny thingjust a little Easter egg here,
(25:48):
uh since we're on it, but uh Iguess the actor had just gotten
the chicken pox and he didn'twant to lose his job, so he
showed up anyway.
And I guess if you if youreally look, you can see it on
his chest.
Oh funny.
Yeah.
DYLAN (26:07):
Speaking of that uh Mikey and Bran's house being used as
the clubhouse.
I love I love the intro fordata.
Yeah.
Not the intro, but yeah, hislittle entrance.
Right.
The entrance, thank you.
For data they're like thescreen door, and he screened
(26:27):
crashes right through it.
JOE (26:30):
That's right.
I I wonder how many screens theyyou know fixed uh uh along
their just hanging out, youknow.
Right.
But yeah, Keekwan as as uhdata.
And now he's in you know Marvelstuff and uh you know he he
took a long hiatus from actingand and just did other things,
(26:54):
and so now he's back and andit's kind of cool to see him,
you know.
I'm I'm hoping, you know,because he he he plays short
round in in the Indiana Jonesmovies, and I'm just hoping he
makes a comeback at some point,yeah, of of doing that and being
in an Indiana Jones movie.
DYLAN (27:15):
I think the the Fratellis, they're such a good
like bumbling villain group.
JOE (27:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they're so great.
Um, and as actors, um, youknow, they they've just done so
many things as actors and andjust have done um like I think
the biggest one that Joe PantPantaliano, everybody knows him
(27:45):
from Mate The Matrix.
Um but I everybody yeah, welleverybody who's seen movies,
everybody who's not in front ofme.
DYLAN (27:57):
Everybody who's not sitting across from the table
from me right now, yeah,exactly.
JOE (28:02):
But most people.
Uh but you know, he was in theMatrix, uh, and uh, you know,
for me, he was in Eddie and theCruisers, he was in La Bamba.
Uh there's just like and that'sa movie that you know I'm
hoping we can cover undermusicals, uh, because La Bamba
is just that that's just a ahome, like a culturally home
(28:28):
movie.
Like, you know, it's just it'sjust a reflection of um Hispanic
culture.
But uh, you know, he he plays ahuge part in that movie, and
and I knew him from thatprobably first, because I think
I s I didn't see Goonies rightaway.
Uh but then um but just yeah,he's just been in uh just so
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many so many good movies.
And then the funny thing withuh Robert Davi is he's you know
he was in die hard and he playshe plays so they have these
detectives come in to come andlike you know um like take down
this guy, right?
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They don't know who he is, theydon't care who he is, and so
they come to take and they'reboth named Johnson and Johnson.
And I don't know if they workedin an ad there, but but they
should have.
Right.
But uh that's that's kind ofwhere I know him mostly.
DYLAN (29:31):
Um what movies like what other movies did mama play in?
Um I I think this is the firstmovie I've actually seen her act
in, but I feel like I've seenher before, though.
JOE (29:47):
So oddly enough, she plays another mama.
She was in uh Throw Mama fromthe Train with Billy Crystal.
DYLAN (29:55):
Okay, I okay.
I think I think I rememberseeing the advertisement.
For that movie on VHS tapes ofmy grandma's house.
I think that's where that'swhere it comes from.
JOE (30:06):
Yeah.
I mean she did a lot ofcharacter acting, but I think
that was I I think that was herbiggest one, and she may have
even been nominated for thatrole.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah.
DYLAN (30:19):
She definitely takes on the motherly, motherly type of
role.
JOE (30:23):
Yes.
Yes, she does.
Yeah.
And it was crazy because uhRobert Davi would tell her to to
actually hit him.
Whenever, so whenever she wouldwas hitting him, yeah, she was
like going full, you know, goingto town because you know he's
trying to kind of be method andand really get the shtick that
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that like between the three ofthem trying to kind of do a uh
three stooges type of thing.
Right.
You know, and so like Joe andand Robert Dobby like um met at
the at the audition andinstinctively had this playful
uh brotherly type thing wherethey would like start pranking
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each other or really startmaking fun of each other, and um
Robert uh made fun of his uhJoe Joe Pantliano's toupee, and
so they just kind of just wentback and forth, and and and so
that's how they got the partbecause they instinctively just
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kind of went into it and andthey knew their roles, they knew
their roles going into it, andso they just played off of each
other and got the roles, andthen even on the set, they would
still prank each other.
DYLAN (31:39):
Uh so I could imagine it was it was a great time.
Yeah, chemistry on that one'sdefinitely it's definitely you
definitely feel that watchingthe movie, yeah.
JOE (31:49):
And then you throw in mama and she's just yeah.
Again, it's like the twobumbling guys, and then you have
the the the black and whiteperson who's you know keeping
order trying to keep it alltogether.
DYLAN (32:06):
But yeah, I think throughout the whole movie
though, they definitely itdefinitely does a great job of
balancing the the humor and thechaos and just the heart of it
all.
Because really they're they'redoing it to try to save their
you know their families' houses.
JOE (32:24):
Yeah, yeah.
And I think Spielberg really,you know, he he does give input
on a lot of movies, and you cansee where the three who were
involved really had someinvestment in that that idea of
like growing up as a boy, whatwhat's gonna happen if you lose
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your house, like and and even inyour mind growing up and
thinking, what would I do as akid to save my house, and how
far would I go to try to save myhouse and my parents' house?
Like, you know, obviouslythey're their parent the parents
are at their wit's end, they'redoing all they can, and you
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know, and so they want to help,they want to give, they wanna
you know, help with thatsituation.
Like growing up, you know, mymy brother and I grew up in you
know, on welfare and theapartments and things like that,
and we always wanted to find away to help and in that.
So like just being able to bean adult and go, you know, I I'm
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a kid now, what would I do andhow would I do this?
And they just yeah, it's inthis they get in this great
adventure.
DYLAN (33:39):
So yeah, I I definitely appreciated like all of the
practical sets that were made,and like you know, it just
overall sticks out to me as likethe pirate ship, but like you
could just tell the scale of itand you could feel it.
Yeah, and that's that's whatreally sells it.
JOE (34:02):
Yeah, and even going from the house, uh Richard Donner
said those those um what did youcall them?
The the the setups in front ofthe the yard, not the booby
traps, but the um the RubeGoldmer, yeah.
Exactly.
Um those were practical, sothey worked.
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So they you could play withthem on the set, like the kids
would play with them, and and soeverything was was was
practical on there, and they didas many practical effects as
possible to to yeah, immerse youin that, and you really do feel
like the whatever places you'rein, you're you're immersed in
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those places, you know.
DYLAN (34:49):
And then the booby traps or the booty traps, as Data
would say exactly like I I likedthat those parts of it when you
know when they were in the inthe um how's gonna say hallway
(35:10):
when they're in the um cavesystem and the they get to the
one that's the what's it whatwas his name?
Copper pot, the one that passedaway.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Um but you know, when they getto that one and they
(35:30):
accidentally trigger theremaining booby traps there.
Oh yeah.
Like whatching that you it feltreal.
Yeah.
You know, it it felt like therewas tension and that if you
don't get out of there, you'regoing to get hurt.
Yeah.
Um I like you s I feel like yousee other booby trap scenarios
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and it's it feels impossiblepretty much.
Like, how does the pressureplate that you step on suddenly
you know start spraying poisondarts at you or across the room?
Whereas with this one, it's hepulls on the trip rope, and then
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you see almost abehind-the-scenes shot of that
of it actually starting totrigger in the axe swinging and
like slowly cutting the rope andyou know moving down all on its
own.
JOE (36:29):
Yeah, I really feel empathy with um thinking through the
lens in the eyes of of my mywife's students who would be
approached by uh a ginormousorgan made of bones because
yeah, I know the keyboard prettywell.
You know, I I can I can prettymuch tell you um, you know, how
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many um you know how manystrings are in each each key on
a piano, right?
Uh looking inside it andknowing okay that this one has
three and yada yada.
But to see a piano set up inbones is a completely different
thing.
And then Andy's just likestressed because she's like, I
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haven't had piano lessons sincewhat, four or something like
that?
Yeah, and so she's trying tofigure out the keyboard and play
and and kind of be the hero atthat point for everybody, yeah.
And and so I just I'm like,wow, like they really thought of
everything.
DYLAN (37:30):
Well, and then to even add more to the stress of it,
it's an organ, so it has thedual keyboards on it, yeah.
And so you have two layers thatyou're also trying to figure
out, and even going like evengoing from a piano, a you know,
traditional piano to having theorgan, which is the dual layer,
(37:50):
you're it you have double thedouble the options, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
JOE (37:57):
It just that kind of thing that takes a little bit of
thinking behind it, butmeanwhile, when you come across
it, you know the stress, and soyou're automatically you know
thrown into that that stress.
DYLAN (38:14):
Yeah, I thought it was funny when she couldn't tell if
one of the notes was a A sharpor a B flat.
Yeah, because it's the samenote, yeah.
JOE (38:25):
An A sharp and B flat is known as an inharmonic.
DYLAN (38:32):
Is your wife a music teacher by chance?
Yeah, I should have been onetoo.
I guess with the water slide,like how could they not make a
Goonies water park?
Yeah, like you have you alreadyhave your slide, right?
So you have have your theming,pirate themed, obviously.
(38:52):
Right.
Your pirate ship can be yourmain centerpiece.
Yeah, you know, could youimagine like being in a wave
pool, and like that's kind ofthe the focal point of the whole
thing, right?
JOE (39:05):
The whole pirate ship there, the whole slide.
DYLAN (39:08):
Right.
JOE (39:08):
I I mean you got Spielberg, Universal, are you listening,
Orlando?
We're we're wanting sometheming.
Right.
We need to have it.
Right.
Epic doesn't have a water parknear it yet.
Yeah.
I mean they can even rehashsome some things over at the
other.
Expand.
(39:30):
Expand.
DYLAN (39:33):
Yeah, but with where Volcano Bay is, I don't know if
it it's like completelylandlocked, isn't it?
Like it doesn't have room forexpansion.
JOE (39:41):
Yeah, I guess not.
DYLAN (39:43):
I truly have never been there.
JOE (39:44):
Yeah, well, Epic does have more land.
Yeah.
So it it would be I don't knowif a water park is really their
focal point for being near Epic,though.
Unfortunately.
Oh, you can make a water ride,you know.
Just make it make it a looseloosely based water ride, kind
of like uh oh, what is thebiggest one?
(40:06):
The tall one.
DYLAN (40:08):
There's Pluto's barge, Dudley Dew rides ripsaw ripsaw.
What is it?
Dudley Dew rides Ripsaw FallsYeah.
And then yeah, I mean they'retaking aren't they working on
taking out um like all of thewhat is that area for the
(40:32):
forbidden?
It's where the like all themythos theming is.
Oh yeah.
The forbidden continent?
Right.
JOE (40:40):
Uh yeah.
DYLAN (40:40):
Is that what it's called?
JOE (40:41):
Forbidden continent, maybe?
DYLAN (40:42):
Because that's where um Poseidon's the Poseidon sand
was.
JOE (40:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Naked Goonies.
DYLAN (40:49):
Oh, that'd be cool.
Yeah.
You heard heard it here first,people, right?
Start spreading this rumor.
Start spreading the news.
JOE (41:00):
Goonies coming to Orlando.
But that's an adventure, uh,islands of adventure, but still.
Yeah, it's it's it's primeprime real estate.
Right.
DYLAN (41:12):
Yeah, but with the pirate ship and the the grand reveal
of it, I love that moment ofsitting there and the you know,
you get your first shot of thepirate ship, and you just hear
that music swell, and you canyou can just feel yeah, you're
like, oh, we've reached ourgoal.
JOE (41:31):
It's just this huge, yeah, yeah.
It's the denouement of of thefilm.
It's like you just yeah.
I know big words too.
Um yeah, and the way they setit up was they had the kids um
walk on the set backwards, likeso they wouldn't see ahead of
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them.
And they kind of knew what theywere, they kind of knew what
they were gonna see, but theyhadn't seen it yet.
Okay, and so they they rolled,started going, had them turn
around, and shot, you know,multiple angles so they could
get their actual physicalreaction.
Wow, and the only thing thatmessed it up was that um Josh
(42:16):
said the F-word in it becausethey were all so just blown away
by seeing this huge ship, thishuge physical ship um that they
would end up sh you know filmingon uh that they were just you
know, they were using you knowtheir real words.
(42:39):
And so Josh Brolin said theF-word, so they had to go back
and do some retakes because theyuh, you know, it they're like,
oh, okay, we got we wereplanning that, right?
DYLAN (42:51):
But uh so hey, it's that's his reaction, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, and then with withthe pirate ship, too.
Yeah, okay.
I have to ask, after the moviewas over, yeah, you made us
watch this the the full two-hourCindy Lauper music.
JOE (43:16):
Yeah.
The uh the epic uh what is itcalled?
Um epilogue.
Like if it was tied to if itwas tied to Goonies afterwards,
it would be like the way Lord ofthe Rings ends where there's
like five different endings.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was it was long evenfor MTV, and I'm not even sure
(43:37):
like if that was like a they didlike a world premiere at the
time.
Yeah, but part of the reasonwhy I wanted to show you is
because where things were at thetime is where that that video
was.
And so you have the the hugething about it was Cindy Lopper
(43:58):
was established and uh her kindof rival, because there's always
these rivals, right?
Sort of her rival was Madonna,but totally see that the the
biggest thing at the time thatwas going on was um wrestling,
and so WWF wrestling was likehuge at that point.
Oh, okay, and so all those guysin the in that video are all
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wrestlers.
Oh, yeah, so there's maybe if Iknew wrestling, I would have
noticed, yeah, and so somehowshe got paired up with them for
for quite a few videos and quitea few things.
Oh, really?
DYLAN (44:33):
Oh, that's funny.
JOE (44:34):
She would make appearances on there, and so there there was
just this whole thing, right?
DYLAN (44:39):
This whole tie together.
JOE (44:40):
So they do this whole 12-minute video of of this song
that I think two hours for forgo listen to some Cindy Lauper.
One of my favorite ones is TimeAfter Time.
I mean, as a kid, that made mecry.
Uh, this song to me was justmediocre.
DYLAN (45:00):
Well, and so funny too, because we finished the Goonies.
Um I was getting up to takesomething to the kitchen or
something, and you're like, no,don't move.
We have to watch this now.
I was like, okay, stopexpecting like some big thing.
And then it was like, it wasthis most like middle of the
(45:24):
road thing.
JOE (45:25):
The conversation was probably like, hey, you want to
want to watch this now?
Sure.
DYLAN (45:30):
Probably.
I mean, I'm not one toover-exaggerate brands, but if I
were, I was physicallyrestrained to the couch like
Brand was in the chair.
JOE (45:42):
By by a soft little gray blanket.
Right.
You didn't even have a cat onyou at that point.
Right.
Big fact.
So yeah, that video was 12minutes, and I mean the goodies
are.
DYLAN (46:02):
Did they air that video on MTV in two parts?
Because I thought it like cutit, it cuts it in the middle.
Right.
JOE (46:10):
There's a to the there's two parts to it, basically.
DYLAN (46:13):
So I was that's why I was wondering if they like and I'm
not sure like one and then theother.
JOE (46:18):
Because so at the time, you know, Thriller made a made a
dent in music videos.
Right.
And that whole video, I think,is probably around 12 minutes or
something, 15 minutes,something that that whole thing
was a whole, you know, you gofrom horror movie and zombie
(46:38):
movie, all that kind of stuff.
So I think a lot of videos werecoming out as world premieres,
and so like they could havepremiered as 12, but then they
dialed it down to I know there'slike a three-minute version,
yeah.
But the whole, you know, stillthe whole story arc for that was
they were trying to do Goonies,the Goonie uh script in 12
(47:00):
minutes, you know.
DYLAN (47:01):
And so you yeah, yeah, which you totally get that.
Yeah, the only part I wasconfused about, and I have this
written down even, but becauseDada says it later at the end.
Dada's talking to with thereporter and he talks about an
octopus.
Oh, you could in the movie?
Or yeah, in the movie at theend, he's he talks about an
(47:23):
octopus, and I'm like, where Iwas like, where in this movie
was there an octopus?
I'm like, did I fall asleep?
I've been known to do that.
Yeah, so I'm like, did I fallasleep for a little bit and just
miss part of it?
But then also in the CyndiLauper um music, you know, video
full two-hour music video, um,she she is wrapped in octopus
(47:48):
tentacle.
Yeah.
Like, where is this comingfrom?
Yeah.
JOE (47:55):
Yeah, they filmed the scene where um yeah, there was an
octopus in the you know, in thecave, like when they get in
there and they so they had toget out of it.
DYLAN (48:05):
Um is it the one where they're walking across the beam?
JOE (48:09):
I'm not sure where it was at exactly, but okay, you know,
because they're going throughall these basically this whole
labyrinth of trying to getthrough, right?
At some point, there's anoctopus.
And they filmed it, but RichardDonner went back and looked at
the footage and did not likewhat he saw.
Really?
And so they just kind of theythey trimmed out what they
(48:30):
could, yeah, but left in certainthings on accident that kind of
talked about that there was anoctopus.
Gotcha.
DYLAN (48:39):
So I didn't fall asleep.
Great.
Yeah, you didn't know goingback to the to the you know,
walk in the the beam though, theand not tight rope, but what
would you call that?
Like just like the scene wherethey're walking across the the
(49:02):
mast of the ship.
JOE (49:04):
Okay, yeah.
DYLAN (49:05):
And um, I love all of like data's gadgets and stuff.
Uh-huh.
Like when they're walkingacross and he's like, slippery
shoes.
And I'm like, does he haveslippery shoes?
And then he has like the littlepumps on it that squared out
the oil or whatever it was.
Oh, when they're walking theplank?
(49:26):
No, no.
When they're walking fromacross like the waterfall in
front of it, is I thought Idon't know, I thought it looked
like a ship mast.
JOE (49:38):
Oh, okay.
DYLAN (49:39):
And so then like the kids make it across and data does
his thing and then gets across,and then when the fratellis get
there, they start making theirway across and fall, and it
yeah, it hurts them greatly.
(50:01):
Yeah, and that that was a funnyscene.
JOE (50:05):
Yeah, I think uh my favorite scene that always makes
me laugh is Chunks confession.
I mean, because here's thething the way they set it up,
they don't give him specifics,and he's a little kid, so they
say, tell me everything.
And he literally tells themeverything.
(50:27):
Yep, and they almost like wantto adopt him at the end because
they're like, this kid's so bad,like I'm starting to like him,
you know.
One of my favorite points, um,you know, that kind of reminds
me of a thing in Standby Me, butwhen he when he talks about
he's at a movie theater and hestarts going and he makes
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everybody else sick and all thatkind of stuff, like apparently
that was something that StevenSpielberg had actually done as a
kid over there.
So it was just like it's justso great to hear him like
because again, they did not givehim specifics, so they're like,
tell us everything, okay.
I'll tell you everything,right?
(51:13):
They didn't ask, tell us aboutthe plan or tell us what you
guys are up to.
DYLAN (51:19):
Funny.
JOE (51:20):
So it just yeah, that's so good.
So yeah, a couple of behind thescenes that we haven't talked
about is there was the sequencewhere they're underneath that
country club and they're they'remessing with the pipes and
they're trying to, you know,they're wrenching at them.
DYLAN (51:37):
When the um handles get pulled backwards to the walls,
yeah, and they're all looking inlike what the heck.
JOE (51:44):
So like I guess it was gonna be multiple things, and
they they just set it on justthe country club.
But originally there was gonnabe uh Rick Baker had designed
some ape suits, and part of thatchaos was gonna somehow uh
release apes from the local zoo.
(52:05):
So like those pipes were gonnabe tied to multiple places, and
they were like there's justgonna be a thing, a whole
sequence of of uh again events.
Yeah, this again, this moviewas set it was you know,
seven-hour cut, so there's whoknows how much stuff was filmed
and wasn't, but those thosesuits went on to other movies
(52:26):
and stuff, but it was just theyou know, yeah, it was supposed
to be that.
And then there's there's alsouh Easter eggs to other movies,
and the main ones that I caughton is when Chunk calls the
police and he's like, you know,oh, is it is it this this story
again, and is you know, and allthat.
(52:48):
And so the cop tells Chunk, oh,like the the prank about
creatures multiplying if you getwater on them, and the movie
The Gremlins is based on thatpremise.
Oh and so it's just a throwbackto to the the gremlins.
DYLAN (53:04):
Wait, so you get you get water on them?
JOE (53:07):
Yeah, so you can multiply you have this little these
little furry gremlins that arecute, and when you if you get
water on them or feed them afteruh midnight, then they grow
these other like nasty gremlinsthat yeah, that like spawn
basically.
DYLAN (53:26):
And so that's crazy.
JOE (53:28):
Yeah, so that'll be one that we'll we'll watch, and it's
more in the the Goonies likekind of um genre of things, so
it's not wh a horror movie, it'smore of a okay yeah, can't kind
of campy funny.
Gotcha.
DYLAN (53:43):
I I was wondering, I was like, is it like super scary
then?
JOE (53:48):
Yeah, yeah, no, it sounds like it would be, or it could be
too.
And then uh a nod to Supermanand the theme is when uh sloth
shows his Superman shirt.
And that's a total that's atotal tribute to Richard Donner.
Yeah, it's a total they had tothrow that in because it's
Richard Donner.
And I mean they play the fullthat the cool thing about that
(54:11):
is they play the full Supermantheme.
You know, it's not even youknow, in other movies it would
have to be a uh like here's athree-second snippet of
something that sounds like it,you know, but they're like it's
Richard Donner's the director,he has the rights to the song,
boom, you know, we're we'redoing a Superman, so yeah.
And that that's the best thingabout this movie again, is is
(54:35):
having Richard Donner and StevenSpielberg and Chris Columbus on
these this movie, it's just Imean it makes it it makes it
what it is, you know.
DYLAN (54:47):
I I always appreciate practical effects.
You talked about that before,yeah.
So all of the practical sets onit.
I think the most that they usedum uh green screen or whatever
it was is in the organ room whenthe floor falls out.
And I feel like that's supernoticeable, or to me it was
(55:11):
super noticeable, um you know,but limited by the technology of
the diamond and such.
JOE (55:18):
Yeah.
Um there's a point when they'rewhen they first I think when
they first go in to the big caveor whatever, and you can or
when they hold up the coin,actually, when they're they're
just they're on the ridge,they're they're doing, you know,
they're on their bikes.
Um that's a cool scene,actually, because you can
(55:41):
actually notice if you rewatchit, Sean Aston drops the map.
But he but he like throws downhis bike real quick, runs back,
gets the map.
DYLAN (55:52):
I was wondering what that was about.
JOE (55:54):
Yeah, it was basically he dropped it on accident and he
tried to save the shot.
And so he did that whole thingto and it looks really cool.
DYLAN (56:02):
Like he Yeah, I mean it looks it looks like Mikey, you
know, accidentally dropped his.
Yeah, I gotta go back for it.
Yeah, okay.
I I couldn't see what hedropped or what really was going
on, but I did notice I waslike, why did he circle back
around?
JOE (56:17):
Yeah.
But when they get to the ridgeand they hold up the coin and
they're trying to figure outwhere where they're supposed to
be, um they do a shot where it'sof the kids and behind them is
the is the you know theforeground the you know the the
coast.
It's a blue screen shot and youcan tell like a lot and the
(56:41):
other cast gives Richard Johnnera bad time.
And I think Corey Felman says,you mean you could you could
make us think a man could umcould fly, but you couldn't pull
this off.
And so like you know, as far aspractical effects, I'm sure
they forgot to get the shot, andinstead of fly flying everybody
(57:02):
back to, you know, Oregon orwhatever, they just did it in a
in a studio, and that's that'sthe way it ended up.
But that's kind of how thingsgo.
Um with shooting a film, it'slike you know, you're going
through all your shots andyou're like, oh no, we forgot to
get this one, so you have to goback and do something that's
you know that's not normal ordoesn't look as you know um as
(57:28):
fit to when you were shootingeverything together.
And and I guess this movie theyshot chronologically, so oh
really?
Yeah, and that's very rare fora movie.
Like usually if you're you knowyou're on the set of this this
particular thing and it endshere and it ends there, yeah.
You you you shoot it, you shootall those scenes in that one
(57:51):
place, and then you go to thenext place and shoe all shoot
all the scenes, but they hadthey did it chronologically, so
I gotcha.
Yeah.
DYLAN (58:01):
So Joe, how many truffle shuffles out of ten would you
rate this?
JOE (58:07):
I think I'm gonna give it a six point five.
DYLAN (58:10):
Yeah, I would I would definitely have to agree on the
six point five.
Um for me, it's definitely notone that I would feel like
running back to to watch overand over again.
Um but I thought as kind of a aone-off, I thought it was a
good watch.
(58:30):
I mean, I was entertained, butI wouldn't go out of my way to
watch it again.
JOE (58:36):
Yeah, and I didn't I didn't grow up necessarily watching
it, so yeah, that's that's Ithink that's part of why too.
Some people yeah, they theygrew up watching it and all
that, and for me it was it itwas until later.
Um but I do like it, I do enjoyit, and I do appreciate the you
know, how it's as a moviehistorically has contributed to
(59:00):
cinema.
You know.
DYLAN (59:02):
Yep.
Yeah, because there's there'sdefinitely a lot of things that
had takeaways from it.
Is the Goonies the best kidkids on an adventure movie ever?
JOE (59:18):
It's out there.
DYLAN (59:22):
Yeah, I mean Yeah, I would agree with that.
I wouldn't say it would be mygo-to kids on adventure movie,
but I also can't think of oneright now that I would say like,
oh, you want a kids onadventure movie you know, here
(59:44):
it is.
JOE (59:44):
Yeah, right.
The only one that sticks in mymind that's really truly that is
Goonies that I can think of.
But that's not Stranger Things.
I mean Stranger Things is awhole different level of You
know.
Right.
But again, it it it tookGoonies to make Stranger Things.
(01:00:06):
Yeah, very true.
DYLAN (01:00:07):
So maybe it is the best kids on Adventure movie.
JOE (01:00:11):
Maybe it's the only one I can fathom his ever being one.
So uh we already determinedthat I'm chunk, and I would say
I'm probably a little bit ofmouth, but I'm probably a Mikey
too.
Where would you put yourself?
Um Yeah, I think out of Well,none of us are a Troy.
DYLAN (01:00:36):
Oh, absolutely not.
I think out of those ones,though, I would say that I
probably lean most towards data.
JOE (01:00:44):
Yeah.
Okay.
DYLAN (01:00:46):
So I I definitely like my my gadgets and gizmos.
JOE (01:00:51):
Yeah.
Next week we're trading pirateships for plutonium.
Join us as we head back to 1985for one of the most iconic
adventures ever made.
And I know that other podcastshave covered this movie, but
this was filmed in my backyard.
So back to the future, it is.
Because where we're going, wedon't need Rhodes.
DYLAN (01:01:12):
There it is.
He said it, folks.
Well, thank you all forlistening.
And if you have any favoriteGoonie moments that we did not
cover, let us know.
Check out our socials.
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Dylan, you Goonie.
I'm keeping that in there.
JOE (01:01:41):
That's it for this week.
So now go find your owntreasure map and remember
Goonies never say die.
Dylan you Goonie!
DYLAN (00:21):
Welcome to Have You Seen the Movie Podcast, where every
movie is a premiere.
JOE (00:26):
We're heading to the Oregon coast for a treasure map, a
pirate ship, and one of the mosticonic kid adventures ever
made.
The Goonies.
DYLAN (00:35):
This week's movie, The Goonies, came out in 1985 and is
rated PG.
But let's be honest, it's oneof those 80s PG movies that
probably wouldn't be PG today,so listener discretion is
advised.
So yeah, I to start it off, Iactually had one of my trainers
(00:57):
at work who she was, I told herthat I hadn't really seen
movies.
And so she she was saying,like, I need to go watch the
Goonies.
JOE (01:10):
She was saying you need to go watch the Goonies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
DYLAN (01:13):
Yeah, because she didn't know, you know, we did this.
Yeah.
And so um, but yeah, so she shewas saying that I need to go
watch the Goonies, and it's herfavorite, and both of her kids,
you know, their favorite, theywatch it all the time, she said.
JOE (01:28):
Yeah.
Yeah, it it is one of thoselike comfort food type movies.
Yeah.
You know, it's just, I mean,you know, even the setting is
kind of in that like, I want toget a bowl of soup and climb
into a blanket.
Uh it's you know, mid-80s, uhSpielbergs on the top.
(01:49):
Uh uh Richard Donner, uh, youknow, he he was the man who who
showed people that a man couldfly on film.
Yeah, you know, did Supermanone and two.
Um Chris Columbus was up andcoming as a writer.
He would go on to do Pirates ofthe Caribbean.
Oh yeah, yeah.
(02:11):
Um I have a story about himlater, but uh uh yeah, it it
just you have these this perfectstorm and a perfect uh you know
summer movie, and you know, umjust just a good good recipe for
a good movie.
DYLAN (02:31):
Yeah.
JOE (02:32):
So uh so yeah, quick plot rundown.
Group of kids find a treasuremap and go on a wild adventure
to save their home fromforeclosure, dodging criminals,
and booby traps along the way.
DYLAN (02:47):
One of my like favorite parts of this movie was watching
all of like the the RubeGoldberg machines.
JOE (02:54):
Oh, okay.
DYLAN (02:55):
That's that's what those are called with all the
different elements and stuff,and I love that.
Like that that was so cool,like just watching everything
get put together.
Yeah.
JOE (03:06):
Yeah, the even just getting into the house and all the
conjunctions.
Right.
Yeah, you know, the funny thingabout um the Goonies and the
whole adventure thing is thekids in that movie.
Uh I have pictures of mybrother at that time, and he
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dressed exactly like that.
DYLAN (03:32):
Oh yeah.
JOE (03:33):
Yeah.
I mean, um it if you lookaround, there is a lot of print
stuff.
Uh I even noticed in one of thekids' rooms there's a whole
like like poster of Prince andhis band.
You know, like in it's like, Idon't know if it's it looks like
it's a painting, but it mightbe a poster.
(03:54):
I'm assuming it's a poster, butuh Mouth is wearing a purple
rain shirt on, and you know,it's just like it's just the
setting of the times.
And I have like I said, I havepictures of my brother wearing
the exact same the um membersonly coat that that Mouth is
wearing with the with the purplerain shirt.
(04:15):
That was a thing.
Uh, you know, so it's justyeah, it just um the the way
they dress, the who they are.
Uh Mikey, I have a picture ofmy brother just completely in
denim, just like Mikey, and andjust yeah, it those kids
represented us at the time, youknow.
Yeah.
At least me, because that'sthat's the age I was.
DYLAN (04:38):
Right.
Yeah, I think I think for likea first watch through, I would
say, I would say it's prettygood.
Uh-huh.
I don't know if it wouldnecessarily if it would
necessarily be my run-to moviefor, you know, but you know,
chicken soup for the soul.
Yeah, right.
But like, but I would say it'sit's pretty good.
(05:02):
It there's definitely parts ofit that like given the PG rating
that it had and how loose theywere, you know, back then with
the rating system and stuff, I'dbe like, ooh, that's that
bumped it up a rating.
JOE (05:20):
Yeah, and I don't know, like, I guess you could say it
it was looser, but I don't thinkthat it was looser.
Um yeah, because some of themovies that are coming out right
now, it's just like, what inthe heck?
Like, how how is that even notrated worse than it is?
Yeah, it's just yeah.
(05:42):
Um, but yeah, the these arekids, and I think that's where
they were coming from.
Like Spielberg and Donner were,you know, it's like these kids
have a mouth, you know, and evenMouth is named Mouth for you
know uh before even all thedialogue that he has with the
with the movie.
DYLAN (06:02):
Yeah, it's like but yeah, how how do you feel like the
pacing holds up throughout themovie?
JOE (06:14):
It tells a lot, and it's crazy because I guess the
original was like seven hoursbecause there's all kinds of
other like if they would were tohave found all the footage to
make it seven hours, yeah, thethis day and age they could make
it a series, right?
You know, and actually havechapters and have a beginning
(06:38):
and end to each thing, but withit being what was it an hour and
a half, maybe?
DYLAN (06:44):
Um just under two hours, I think.
JOE (06:48):
So I think it does slow down a bit, and again, in these
times you could do that, and andthey got away with it,
obviously, back then.
Yeah, but and you also have toconsider we didn't have back
then Netflix or any of that TVwas pretty much like you had
(07:14):
your episodics and sitcoms, andyou wouldn't have something as
high budgeted, like all the proyou know, effects and props and
things like that.
Right.
So it's really hard to look atit from this lens of today,
because yeah, you can pace itbetter, you can write it better,
(07:36):
but again, you had all thesethree guys that were on the top
of their game.
Um so you kind of have to giveit some some leeway there, yeah.
Uh when you're looking at it.
Um but there are definitelysome even in the looking at it
(07:57):
through the time of the lens,and there are definitely some
slow parts.
And there are it feels likethere's some little subplots in
there that are like, okay, it'sI still feel like it's slowing
it down a little bit.
Yeah.
Uh there's a lot of buildupwith with like chunk and and sl
(08:17):
uh sloth and yeah, you know,that kind of stuff.
I think it could have been alittle faster.
DYLAN (08:24):
Yeah, you could have definitely tightened that up.
JOE (08:26):
Yeah.
And I don't really feel likethe boyfriend stuff, uh, the uh
what's his name?
The the son who's um the son ofthe the dad who's trying to
take away the house, how he'skind of interwoven into Tony.
Yeah, yeah.
(08:46):
So he's like interwoven intoeverything.
And it's like I think thatcould be faster too.
DYLAN (08:52):
Yeah, I did kind of wonder why he was he kept
popping up in things.
Uh-huh.
And I almost wonder if theywould have made him out to be
like kind of the the realtor oryou know, whoever he was, like
his son.
Uh-huh.
I think if they would have madethat out from the get-go, it
might have paid off more becausethen we already know that we
(09:16):
don't like this guy.
JOE (09:18):
Yeah.
DYLAN (09:18):
Other than the fact that they really made Tony to at the
beginning to really come acrossas just kind of a creep.
He's older, he drives, and thewhole time he was driving, he
was adjusting the mirror to lookdown her shirt.
Or there was one shot where itlooked like he was trying to see
(09:41):
up her skirt.
Yeah.
And it's like, that's that'sjust don't be don't be creepy,
dude.
Like Yeah.
JOE (09:49):
And I and you know, like people people would say that's
an ick today, and I think theywould say that's an ick back
then.
Yeah.
And and that was the point.
Right.
You know, like how they canbuild a build up a creepy
person.
Right.
You know.
Um, I mean, obviously StrangerThings took from all those
(10:10):
movies, you know.
The adventure, the um you know,the just the a bunch of kids
get together to um, you know,complete a task, whether it's
you know, killing aliens or orhelping an alien.
DYLAN (10:30):
Right.
Uh-huh.
Well, because with likeStranger Things is basically
like the grown-up 1980s remix ofthe Goonies and those different
Spielberg movies.
And um you can see a lot ofSpielberg's fingerprints just
all over Stranger Things.
(10:51):
And the Duffer brothers, whoare the creators of Stranger
Things, um pretty much said thattheir show is a love letter to
Spielberg for things like E.T.
and the poltergeist and thegoodies.
So, you know, it's like bothboth movies, or you know, the
(11:13):
movies and the show um center onjust ordinary kids in
extraordinary circumstances, um,you know, navigating you know,
supernatural threats while theadults have are mostly clueless.
Right.
So pretty much each of thecharacters in Stranger Things,
(11:34):
like how each character, youknow, goes back and forth with
both groups and um is prettymuch not a cop not a copy, but
definitely a a faithful rewrite.
Yeah, if you would.
JOE (11:51):
Yeah, there's yeah.
They and they intentionally didthat, which is fine.
Like I don't think that youknow, even if even if they said,
okay, you know, this characteris comes from this person, you
know, like there's a chunk,there's a mouth, there's a you
know um I can't remember hisname in Stranger Things, where
(12:15):
he he starts off as the bullybut then turns into an
overarching character throughoutYeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he becomes a overarchingcharacter throughout the the
series, but then you have theother one who um ends up dying
and his sister kind of goes onthrough the through the um the
(12:39):
series in it.
Am I spoiling things?
No.
DYLAN (12:46):
I uh can't afford Netflix enough to justify watching that
show over and over again, sowhere both of them take place,
um small town America and umboth use kind of realistic
neighborhoods and more worn downAmericana versus the the fresh
(13:14):
and shiny.
Right.
JOE (13:16):
And it's definitely it definitely bleens into more of a
you know that grimy adventurerealism compared to the overly
polished yeah, and the whole thewhole idea of being a goony is
a person who lives in thegoondocks, which is like the
boondocks, and and so like aboonie, you know, living in the
(13:38):
boonies, you know.
And so that whole that wholething with with the kids and in
Stranger Things, it's like okay,you have um okay, I don't have
everybody's name, but themetalhead guy who lives in a
trailer park, you know.
Yeah um who who does his wholelike Master of Puppets thing,
you know.
I mean, when was the lastepisode?
(14:00):
Like five years ago.
So don't get mad at me for notknowing these characters' names.
Right.
So bring it back already.
DYLAN (14:11):
Yeah, well, it's coming out next month.
Okay, and so um I have it timedout to where I watch one
episode a day and then the thevery like last episode of
previous seasons is the nightbefore the next one comes out.
JOE (14:31):
Yeah.
I mean, and you have to hand itto them because we just watch
Goonies and Who Shows Up in partof the series.
Sean Aston, Mikey, is inStranger Things.
Oh?
Yeah, he plays um, let's see.
All I remember is that um he hehe dies, but he's in uh scrubs.
(14:56):
He's uh um Oh, he's like in thelab.
Yeah.
No, no, he's no, he's acharacter.
Um I'm gonna look him up andsee what his name is.
DYLAN (15:07):
Oh, Bob Newby.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's um in season two.
Yeah.
Yeah, because they the uh theDuffer brothers cast him like
intentionally as a nod to theGoonies.
And okay.
Um he like in the show, Bobeven talks about growing up in
Hawkins and wanting to move toMaine.
(15:30):
Uh huh.
His yeah, his line, Bob's lineof what's at the center of the
maze, um, just it harkens backto the wholesome nature of
Mikey's earnest.
JOE (15:46):
Oh, okay.
DYLAN (15:46):
That's yeah, that's why it's written that way.
JOE (15:49):
Yeah, that's funny.
No, but yeah, I mean that's athat's a huge tribute to to
Goonies and even all the othermovies that he's been into to
put him in Stranger Things, likeyou know.
DYLAN (16:01):
Um yeah, going re-watching Stranger Things,
I'll definitely have to pay paymore attention to that.
JOE (16:10):
Yeah, and like you know, going back to comparison with
E.T.
Um you know, Stand By Me andsome of the Stephen King movies
were an influence on um StrangerThings, and uh you know, Corey
Feldman is in both Goonies, andthen he was in Stand By Me.
(16:33):
And he plays a much differentcharacter, and that group of
boys, man, like out of Goonies,there's some it's mostly a
comedy.
Yeah.
And um, you know, there's someheartfelt stuff in there, but
but stand by me, man, there'ssome deep like there's they're
(16:56):
little kids and there's somedeep wounds, you know, just
family stuff, getting bullied,trying to survive getting
bullied, like just um it's justit's just crazy.
Um we'll have to watch that onetoo, just to track along with
the Stranger Things stuff.
(17:16):
But yeah, but yeah, CoreyFelman, and then he he's in Lost
Boys later on, but you know, wecan talk more about that.
Okay, so well one of myfavorite performances by Sean
Aston was in fif uh 51st dates.
Yeah.
Because he plays the brother ofof this girl, and he plays this
(17:38):
like you know, muscle guy, andhe wears a uh like see-through
shirt half the time, like withyou know, one of those like it
looks like a um a jersey kind ofthing that you'd wear for
football.
And oh yeah, you know, he'sjust like pumping, yeah, pumping
the weights, and he's likeoiled, and you know, because
they live in Hawaii, so he'slike tanned and he you know one
(18:01):
of like muscle guys, and it'sjust it's just hilarious to see
him in that that characterbecause you don't really see him
that often that way.
Yeah.
And then also, you know, Ithink he trained in Goonies so
that he could be Samwise in Lordof the Rings.
And and you know, his again,his character, his softness, his
(18:25):
his heart, all that kind ofstuff, um shows through in Lord
of the Rings.
And I'm not even sure.
I mean, it seems like he's thattype of person when I've seen
interviews and things like that.
He just seems like a verysensitive, um, caring person,
you know, and so it just comesout in those characters, but uh
(18:45):
you know, in that 51st datesone, it's just not not the same,
yeah.
You know.
Um and then yeah, again, he isthe heart of the group for for
sure.
DYLAN (18:59):
Yeah, yeah.
And he he definitely keeps thattrue, you know, with Goonies
never say die.
JOE (19:09):
Right, right.
So this is our time right here.
Yeah.
And uh so then Josh Brolin isthat's this is his first movie.
Um, it was his first?
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
And his dad was James Brolin,so he was already he already
kind of grew up in the industry,but yeah, you know, he had to
(19:30):
make it his his own.
And for sure.
Yeah.
DYLAN (19:33):
So definitely good did good.
I think he's one of my favoritecharacters.
JOE (19:37):
Yeah, yeah.
And you can see that you know,just what was ahead of him, and
and I always thought he was themeaner older brother, and he
kind of was, but at the sametime, he was he was kind of
along for the ride too, becausehe he I think he had some faith
in his brother that I think heknows what he's doing.
DYLAN (19:54):
This this guy's on to something.
Well, and like it definitely hedefinitely starts off the movie
as not even necessarily themeaner older brother, but like
he you can definitely tell thathe cared.
And even if they did it in abrotherly fashion, yeah, you
know, he's you could still feelthat through the character.
JOE (20:17):
Yeah, having grown up, probably being more the Mikey to
to you know, my brother's uhbrand, yeah.
Uh, you know, you you kind ofsee where a caring brother will
follow his little brother to acertain extent, and then because
there's points where like,okay, he goes along with it, and
(20:37):
he's like, Alright, let's we'redone.
Let's, you know, and so it'sjust then when later on when
he's like, No, I'm the oldest, Iyou know I'm saying, yeah,
exactly.
So, yeah, there's justdefinitely a good play on that.
Um Yeah, and then CoreyFeldman, uh, again, like Lost
(20:59):
Boys, Stand By Me, uh, withMouth.
Um he auditioned, and um Iguess Jeff Cohen, who played
Chunk, auditioned for Mouth, butthey thought he would be a
better chunk.
Yeah, you know, yeah, and soand then Corey Fellman also ran
(21:21):
into Corey Haim, which CoreyHaim and Corey Fellman ended up
having multiple movies later on,but that was their first
meeting was this audition.
Yeah, and so it that was kindof like you know Laurel and
Hardy meeting, or John Lennonand you know Paul McCartney,
(21:41):
like they did so many moviestogether after this that it was
like it was just a chanceencounter kind of thing.
Like, this is gonna be yourfuture, guys.
Yeah.
DYLAN (21:51):
So yeah, I think Mouth was definitely probably one of
my lesser, lesser likedcharacters.
Oh yeah.
I I don't know.
I just I wasn't here for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But Chunk Chunk was funny.
Chunk has you written all overit.
Sorry, Joe.
JOE (22:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Oh yeah, Chunk definitely wasme.
I think, man, I think he wasactually more daring than I was,
uh, as far as like I I it'sfunny because I feel like Chunk
was also a mouth in in someways.
Yeah, you know, like he hewould say things and do things
(22:32):
that that were not, you know,like it's almost like they kept
the characters, but they stillswitched.
I don't know.
It's like uh I think mouth wasmeant to be more of a
impersonator, likeimpersonating, you know, at the
beginning you kind of get thatfeeling of him, you know,
quoting um uh Three Stooges andand other TV shows because it
(22:54):
seemed like he's always watchingTV, yeah.
Um, but I feel like that kindof dies down after a while, and
it's more it's more mouthy asfar as language, talking back,
yeah, talking back.
But yeah, Chunks great.
Um, you know, he he um I yeah,I can't I kind of say like I
(23:16):
definitely identify with himwith the eating.
DYLAN (23:20):
Yeah.
JOE (23:21):
I mean, there's not much to say about the truffle shuffle,
but I think it where they pickup, they throw you in the middle
of all these friends, right?
And so they have theseestablished things that they do,
and so they have this wholedevice to open the gate, and
Mouth doesn't want to open thegate until Chunk does the
(23:44):
trouble shuffle, and that'spicking up his shirt and moving
around his, you know, jigglingaround his fat essentially.
DYLAN (23:53):
And is that was that like a dance at the time, or just
something that they just threwin there?
JOE (23:59):
It was just something they threw in there.
It was just one of those thingsthat you know we're we're
friends and we all have thisthing.
DYLAN (24:07):
Right.
Here's an inside joke, yeah.
JOE (24:09):
Yeah, yeah.
There there was uh and I thinkthe cartons back to this, like
it calls back to um there usedto be uh the little rascals, and
it was like old black and whiteshow, and you had all these
kids that would play togetherand they would get in the all
these little adventures, right?
(24:30):
But they were like innocentlittle uh were kind of stealing
ice cream from the ice creamtruck or like you know, you
know, trying to get alfalfa intothe uh you know, talent show or
something, right?
And they had the the He-ManWoman Tators Club, yeah, and
they had this little clubhouse,and in order to get into the
(24:50):
clubhouse, you had to do thecall sign.
DYLAN (24:52):
Yep.
JOE (24:53):
And the call sign was basically you put your hand uh
under your chin and you wave,right?
DYLAN (24:58):
Yeah, yeah.
I love I I still do that topeople.
Exactly.
JOE (25:03):
Yeah, I grew up doing that.
My uncle used to do that to me,and and so we used to we used
to watch those um during theday, and so I think some of that
is built into this where theyhave these little like, you
know, it's Spielberger andDonner, so they grew up watching
these these uh old littlerascals and you know, our gang
and all that, and so they builtin these little things.
(25:26):
So I think that's kind of whereit came from.
Yeah, that that's where I canlogically um link back to link
back to it is just they have thethey kind of their house is
kind of the clubhouse when theparents are gone, and so they're
this is how they they treat it,you know, and and so that
truffle shuffle, I think, isjust that.
And I guess the funny thingjust a little Easter egg here,
(25:48):
uh since we're on it, but uh Iguess the actor had just gotten
the chicken pox and he didn'twant to lose his job, so he
showed up anyway.
And I guess if you if youreally look, you can see it on
his chest.
Oh funny.
Yeah.
DYLAN (26:07):
Speaking of that uh Mikey and Bran's house being used as
the clubhouse.
I love I love the intro fordata.
Yeah.
Not the intro, but yeah, hislittle entrance.
Right.
The entrance, thank you.
For data they're like thescreen door, and he screened
(26:27):
crashes right through it.
JOE (26:30):
That's right.
I I wonder how many screens theyyou know fixed uh uh along
their just hanging out, youknow.
Right.
But yeah, Keekwan as as uhdata.
And now he's in you know Marvelstuff and uh you know he he
took a long hiatus from actingand and just did other things,
(26:54):
and so now he's back and andit's kind of cool to see him,
you know.
I'm I'm hoping, you know,because he he he plays short
round in in the Indiana Jonesmovies, and I'm just hoping he
makes a comeback at some point,yeah, of of doing that and being
in an Indiana Jones movie.
DYLAN (27:15):
I think the the Fratellis, they're such a good
like bumbling villain group.
JOE (27:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they're so great.
Um, and as actors, um, youknow, they they've just done so
many things as actors and andjust have done um like I think
the biggest one that Joe PantPantaliano, everybody knows him
(27:45):
from Mate The Matrix.
Um but I everybody yeah, welleverybody who's seen movies,
everybody who's not in front ofme.
DYLAN (27:57):
Everybody who's not sitting across from the table
from me right now, yeah,exactly.
JOE (28:02):
But most people.
Uh but you know, he was in theMatrix, uh, and uh, you know,
for me, he was in Eddie and theCruisers, he was in La Bamba.
Uh there's just like and that'sa movie that you know I'm
hoping we can cover undermusicals, uh, because La Bamba
is just that that's just a ahome, like a culturally home
(28:28):
movie.
Like, you know, it's just it'sjust a reflection of um Hispanic
culture.
But uh, you know, he he plays ahuge part in that movie, and
and I knew him from thatprobably first, because I think
I s I didn't see Goonies rightaway.
Uh but then um but just yeah,he's just been in uh just so
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many so many good movies.
And then the funny thing withuh Robert Davi is he's you know
he was in die hard and he playshe plays so they have these
detectives come in to come andlike you know um like take down
this guy, right?
(29:16):
They don't know who he is, theydon't care who he is, and so
they come to take and they'reboth named Johnson and Johnson.
And I don't know if they workedin an ad there, but but they
should have.
Right.
But uh that's that's kind ofwhere I know him mostly.
DYLAN (29:31):
Um what movies like what other movies did mama play in?
Um I I think this is the firstmovie I've actually seen her act
in, but I feel like I've seenher before, though.
JOE (29:47):
So oddly enough, she plays another mama.
She was in uh Throw Mama fromthe Train with Billy Crystal.
DYLAN (29:55):
Okay, I okay.
I think I think I rememberseeing the advertisement.
For that movie on VHS tapes ofmy grandma's house.
I think that's where that'swhere it comes from.
JOE (30:06):
Yeah.
I mean she did a lot ofcharacter acting, but I think
that was I I think that was herbiggest one, and she may have
even been nominated for thatrole.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah.
DYLAN (30:19):
She definitely takes on the motherly, motherly type of
role.
JOE (30:23):
Yes.
Yes, she does.
Yeah.
And it was crazy because uhRobert Davi would tell her to to
actually hit him.
Whenever, so whenever she wouldwas hitting him, yeah, she was
like going full, you know, goingto town because you know he's
trying to kind of be method andand really get the shtick that
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that like between the three ofthem trying to kind of do a uh
three stooges type of thing.
Right.
You know, and so like Joe andand Robert Dobby like um met at
the at the audition andinstinctively had this playful
uh brotherly type thing wherethey would like start pranking
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each other or really startmaking fun of each other, and um
Robert uh made fun of his uhJoe Joe Pantliano's toupee, and
so they just kind of just wentback and forth, and and and so
that's how they got the partbecause they instinctively just
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kind of went into it and andthey knew their roles, they knew
their roles going into it, andso they just played off of each
other and got the roles, andthen even on the set, they would
still prank each other.
DYLAN (31:39):
Uh so I could imagine it was it was a great time.
Yeah, chemistry on that one'sdefinitely it's definitely you
definitely feel that watchingthe movie, yeah.
JOE (31:49):
And then you throw in mama and she's just yeah.
Again, it's like the twobumbling guys, and then you have
the the the black and whiteperson who's you know keeping
order trying to keep it alltogether.
DYLAN (32:06):
But yeah, I think throughout the whole movie
though, they definitely itdefinitely does a great job of
balancing the the humor and thechaos and just the heart of it
all.
Because really they're they'redoing it to try to save their
you know their families' houses.
JOE (32:24):
Yeah, yeah.
And I think Spielberg really,you know, he he does give input
on a lot of movies, and you cansee where the three who were
involved really had someinvestment in that that idea of
like growing up as a boy, whatwhat's gonna happen if you lose
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your house, like and and even inyour mind growing up and
thinking, what would I do as akid to save my house, and how
far would I go to try to save myhouse and my parents' house?
Like, you know, obviouslythey're their parent the parents
are at their wit's end, they'redoing all they can, and you
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know, and so they want to help,they want to give, they wanna
you know, help with thatsituation.
Like growing up, you know, mymy brother and I grew up in you
know, on welfare and theapartments and things like that,
and we always wanted to find away to help and in that.
So like just being able to bean adult and go, you know, I I'm
(33:32):
a kid now, what would I do andhow would I do this?
And they just yeah, it's inthis they get in this great
adventure.
DYLAN (33:39):
So yeah, I I definitely appreciated like all of the
practical sets that were made,and like you know, it just
overall sticks out to me as likethe pirate ship, but like you
could just tell the scale of itand you could feel it.
Yeah, and that's that's whatreally sells it.
JOE (34:02):
Yeah, and even going from the house, uh Richard Donner
said those those um what did youcall them?
The the the setups in front ofthe the yard, not the booby
traps, but the um the RubeGoldmer, yeah.
Exactly.
Um those were practical, sothey worked.
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So they you could play withthem on the set, like the kids
would play with them, and and soeverything was was was
practical on there, and they didas many practical effects as
possible to to yeah, immerse youin that, and you really do feel
like the whatever places you'rein, you're you're immersed in
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those places, you know.
DYLAN (34:49):
And then the booby traps or the booty traps, as Data
would say exactly like I I likedthat those parts of it when you
know when they were in the inthe um how's gonna say hallway
(35:10):
when they're in the um cavesystem and the they get to the
one that's the what's it whatwas his name?
Copper pot, the one that passedaway.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Um but you know, when they getto that one and they
(35:30):
accidentally trigger theremaining booby traps there.
Oh yeah.
Like whatching that you it feltreal.
Yeah.
You know, it it felt like therewas tension and that if you
don't get out of there, you'regoing to get hurt.
Yeah.
Um I like you s I feel like yousee other booby trap scenarios
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and it's it feels impossiblepretty much.
Like, how does the pressureplate that you step on suddenly
you know start spraying poisondarts at you or across the room?
Whereas with this one, it's hepulls on the trip rope, and then
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you see almost abehind-the-scenes shot of that
of it actually starting totrigger in the axe swinging and
like slowly cutting the rope andyou know moving down all on its
own.
JOE (36:29):
Yeah, I really feel empathy with um thinking through the
lens in the eyes of of my mywife's students who would be
approached by uh a ginormousorgan made of bones because
yeah, I know the keyboard prettywell.
You know, I I can I can prettymuch tell you um, you know, how
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many um you know how manystrings are in each each key on
a piano, right?
Uh looking inside it andknowing okay that this one has
three and yada yada.
But to see a piano set up inbones is a completely different
thing.
And then Andy's just likestressed because she's like, I
(37:15):
haven't had piano lessons sincewhat, four or something like
that?
Yeah, and so she's trying tofigure out the keyboard and play
and and kind of be the hero atthat point for everybody, yeah.
And and so I just I'm like,wow, like they really thought of
everything.
DYLAN (37:30):
Well, and then to even add more to the stress of it,
it's an organ, so it has thedual keyboards on it, yeah.
And so you have two layers thatyou're also trying to figure
out, and even going like evengoing from a piano, a you know,
traditional piano to having theorgan, which is the dual layer,
(37:50):
you're it you have double thedouble the options, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
JOE (37:57):
It just that kind of thing that takes a little bit of
thinking behind it, butmeanwhile, when you come across
it, you know the stress, and soyou're automatically you know
thrown into that that stress.
DYLAN (38:14):
Yeah, I thought it was funny when she couldn't tell if
one of the notes was a A sharpor a B flat.
Yeah, because it's the samenote, yeah.
JOE (38:25):
An A sharp and B flat is known as an inharmonic.
DYLAN (38:32):
Is your wife a music teacher by chance?
Yeah, I should have been onetoo.
I guess with the water slide,like how could they not make a
Goonies water park?
Yeah, like you have you alreadyhave your slide, right?
So you have have your theming,pirate themed, obviously.
(38:52):
Right.
Your pirate ship can be yourmain centerpiece.
Yeah, you know, could youimagine like being in a wave
pool, and like that's kind ofthe the focal point of the whole
thing, right?
JOE (39:05):
The whole pirate ship there, the whole slide.
DYLAN (39:08):
Right.
JOE (39:08):
I I mean you got Spielberg, Universal, are you listening,
Orlando?
We're we're wanting sometheming.
Right.
We need to have it.
Right.
Epic doesn't have a water parknear it yet.
Yeah.
I mean they can even rehashsome some things over at the
other.
Expand.
(39:30):
Expand.
DYLAN (39:33):
Yeah, but with where Volcano Bay is, I don't know if
it it's like completelylandlocked, isn't it?
Like it doesn't have room forexpansion.
JOE (39:41):
Yeah, I guess not.
DYLAN (39:43):
I truly have never been there.
JOE (39:44):
Yeah, well, Epic does have more land.
Yeah.
So it it would be I don't knowif a water park is really their
focal point for being near Epic,though.
Unfortunately.
Oh, you can make a water ride,you know.
Just make it make it a looseloosely based water ride, kind
of like uh oh, what is thebiggest one?
(40:06):
The tall one.
DYLAN (40:08):
There's Pluto's barge, Dudley Dew rides ripsaw ripsaw.
What is it?
Dudley Dew rides Ripsaw FallsYeah.
And then yeah, I mean they'retaking aren't they working on
taking out um like all of thewhat is that area for the
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forbidden?
It's where the like all themythos theming is.
Oh yeah.
The forbidden continent?
Right.
JOE (40:40):
Uh yeah.
DYLAN (40:40):
Is that what it's called?
JOE (40:41):
Forbidden continent, maybe?
DYLAN (40:42):
Because that's where um Poseidon's the Poseidon sand
was.
JOE (40:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Naked Goonies.
DYLAN (40:49):
Oh, that'd be cool.
Yeah.
You heard heard it here first,people, right?
Start spreading this rumor.
Start spreading the news.
JOE (41:00):
Goonies coming to Orlando.
But that's an adventure, uh,islands of adventure, but still.
Yeah, it's it's it's primeprime real estate.
Right.
DYLAN (41:12):
Yeah, but with the pirate ship and the the grand reveal
of it, I love that moment ofsitting there and the you know,
you get your first shot of thepirate ship, and you just hear
that music swell, and you canyou can just feel yeah, you're
like, oh, we've reached ourgoal.
JOE (41:31):
It's just this huge, yeah, yeah.
It's the denouement of of thefilm.
It's like you just yeah.
I know big words too.
Um yeah, and the way they setit up was they had the kids um
walk on the set backwards, likeso they wouldn't see ahead of
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them.
And they kind of knew what theywere, they kind of knew what
they were gonna see, but theyhadn't seen it yet.
Okay, and so they they rolled,started going, had them turn
around, and shot, you know,multiple angles so they could
get their actual physicalreaction.
Wow, and the only thing thatmessed it up was that um Josh
(42:16):
said the F-word in it becausethey were all so just blown away
by seeing this huge ship, thishuge physical ship um that they
would end up sh you know filmingon uh that they were just you
know, they were using you knowtheir real words.
(42:39):
And so Josh Brolin said theF-word, so they had to go back
and do some retakes because theyuh, you know, it they're like,
oh, okay, we got we wereplanning that, right?
DYLAN (42:51):
But uh so hey, it's that's his reaction, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, and then with withthe pirate ship, too.
Yeah, okay.
I have to ask, after the moviewas over, yeah, you made us
watch this the the full two-hourCindy Lauper music.
JOE (43:16):
Yeah.
The uh the epic uh what is itcalled?
Um epilogue.
Like if it was tied to if itwas tied to Goonies afterwards,
it would be like the way Lord ofthe Rings ends where there's
like five different endings.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was it was long evenfor MTV, and I'm not even sure
(43:37):
like if that was like a they didlike a world premiere at the
time.
Yeah, but part of the reasonwhy I wanted to show you is
because where things were at thetime is where that that video
was.
And so you have the the hugething about it was Cindy Lopper
(43:58):
was established and uh her kindof rival, because there's always
these rivals, right?
Sort of her rival was Madonna,but totally see that the the
biggest thing at the time thatwas going on was um wrestling,
and so WWF wrestling was likehuge at that point.
Oh, okay, and so all those guysin the in that video are all
(44:22):
wrestlers.
Oh, yeah, so there's maybe if Iknew wrestling, I would have
noticed, yeah, and so somehowshe got paired up with them for
for quite a few videos and quitea few things.
Oh, really?
DYLAN (44:33):
Oh, that's funny.
JOE (44:34):
She would make appearances on there, and so there there was
just this whole thing, right?
DYLAN (44:39):
This whole tie together.
JOE (44:40):
So they do this whole 12-minute video of of this song
that I think two hours for forgo listen to some Cindy Lauper.
One of my favorite ones is TimeAfter Time.
I mean, as a kid, that made mecry.
Uh, this song to me was justmediocre.
DYLAN (45:00):
Well, and so funny too, because we finished the Goonies.
Um I was getting up to takesomething to the kitchen or
something, and you're like, no,don't move.
We have to watch this now.
I was like, okay, stopexpecting like some big thing.
And then it was like, it wasthis most like middle of the
(45:24):
road thing.
JOE (45:25):
The conversation was probably like, hey, you want to
want to watch this now?
Sure.
DYLAN (45:30):
Probably.
I mean, I'm not one toover-exaggerate brands, but if I
were, I was physicallyrestrained to the couch like
Brand was in the chair.
JOE (45:42):
By by a soft little gray blanket.
Right.
You didn't even have a cat onyou at that point.
Right.
Big fact.
So yeah, that video was 12minutes, and I mean the goodies
are.
DYLAN (46:02):
Did they air that video on MTV in two parts?
Because I thought it like cutit, it cuts it in the middle.
Right.
JOE (46:10):
There's a to the there's two parts to it, basically.
DYLAN (46:13):
So I was that's why I was wondering if they like and I'm
not sure like one and then theother.
JOE (46:18):
Because so at the time, you know, Thriller made a made a
dent in music videos.
Right.
And that whole video, I think,is probably around 12 minutes or
something, 15 minutes,something that that whole thing
was a whole, you know, you gofrom horror movie and zombie
(46:38):
movie, all that kind of stuff.
So I think a lot of videos werecoming out as world premieres,
and so like they could havepremiered as 12, but then they
dialed it down to I know there'slike a three-minute version,
yeah.
But the whole, you know, stillthe whole story arc for that was
they were trying to do Goonies,the Goonie uh script in 12
(47:00):
minutes, you know.
DYLAN (47:01):
And so you yeah, yeah, which you totally get that.
Yeah, the only part I wasconfused about, and I have this
written down even, but becauseDada says it later at the end.
Dada's talking to with thereporter and he talks about an
octopus.
Oh, you could in the movie?
Or yeah, in the movie at theend, he's he talks about an
(47:23):
octopus, and I'm like, where Iwas like, where in this movie
was there an octopus?
I'm like, did I fall asleep?
I've been known to do that.
Yeah, so I'm like, did I fallasleep for a little bit and just
miss part of it?
But then also in the CyndiLauper um music, you know, video
full two-hour music video, um,she she is wrapped in octopus
(47:48):
tentacle.
Yeah.
Like, where is this comingfrom?
Yeah.
JOE (47:55):
Yeah, they filmed the scene where um yeah, there was an
octopus in the you know, in thecave, like when they get in
there and they so they had toget out of it.
DYLAN (48:05):
Um is it the one where they're walking across the beam?
JOE (48:09):
I'm not sure where it was at exactly, but okay, you know,
because they're going throughall these basically this whole
labyrinth of trying to getthrough, right?
At some point, there's anoctopus.
And they filmed it, but RichardDonner went back and looked at
the footage and did not likewhat he saw.
Really?
And so they just kind of theythey trimmed out what they
(48:30):
could, yeah, but left in certainthings on accident that kind of
talked about that there was anoctopus.
Gotcha.
DYLAN (48:39):
So I didn't fall asleep.
Great.
Yeah, you didn't know goingback to the to the you know,
walk in the the beam though, theand not tight rope, but what
would you call that?
Like just like the scene wherethey're walking across the the
(49:02):
mast of the ship.
JOE (49:04):
Okay, yeah.
DYLAN (49:05):
And um, I love all of like data's gadgets and stuff.
Uh-huh.
Like when they're walkingacross and he's like, slippery
shoes.
And I'm like, does he haveslippery shoes?
And then he has like the littlepumps on it that squared out
the oil or whatever it was.
Oh, when they're walking theplank?
(49:26):
No, no.
When they're walking fromacross like the waterfall in
front of it, is I thought Idon't know, I thought it looked
like a ship mast.
JOE (49:38):
Oh, okay.
DYLAN (49:39):
And so then like the kids make it across and data does
his thing and then gets across,and then when the fratellis get
there, they start making theirway across and fall, and it
yeah, it hurts them greatly.
(50:01):
Yeah, and that that was a funnyscene.
JOE (50:05):
Yeah, I think uh my favorite scene that always makes
me laugh is Chunks confession.
I mean, because here's thething the way they set it up,
they don't give him specifics,and he's a little kid, so they
say, tell me everything.
And he literally tells themeverything.
(50:27):
Yep, and they almost like wantto adopt him at the end because
they're like, this kid's so bad,like I'm starting to like him,
you know.
One of my favorite points, um,you know, that kind of reminds
me of a thing in Standby Me, butwhen he when he talks about
he's at a movie theater and hestarts going and he makes
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everybody else sick and all thatkind of stuff, like apparently
that was something that StevenSpielberg had actually done as a
kid over there.
So it was just like it's justso great to hear him like
because again, they did not givehim specifics, so they're like,
tell us everything, okay.
I'll tell you everything,right?
(51:13):
They didn't ask, tell us aboutthe plan or tell us what you
guys are up to.
DYLAN (51:19):
Funny.
JOE (51:20):
So it just yeah, that's so good.
So yeah, a couple of behind thescenes that we haven't talked
about is there was the sequencewhere they're underneath that
country club and they're they'remessing with the pipes and
they're trying to, you know,they're wrenching at them.
DYLAN (51:37):
When the um handles get pulled backwards to the walls,
yeah, and they're all looking inlike what the heck.
JOE (51:44):
So like I guess it was gonna be multiple things, and
they they just set it on justthe country club.
But originally there was gonnabe uh Rick Baker had designed
some ape suits, and part of thatchaos was gonna somehow uh
release apes from the local zoo.
(52:05):
So like those pipes were gonnabe tied to multiple places, and
they were like there's justgonna be a thing, a whole
sequence of of uh again events.
Yeah, this again, this moviewas set it was you know,
seven-hour cut, so there's whoknows how much stuff was filmed
and wasn't, but those thosesuits went on to other movies
(52:26):
and stuff, but it was just theyou know, yeah, it was supposed
to be that.
And then there's there's alsouh Easter eggs to other movies,
and the main ones that I caughton is when Chunk calls the
police and he's like, you know,oh, is it is it this this story
again, and is you know, and allthat.
(52:48):
And so the cop tells Chunk, oh,like the the prank about
creatures multiplying if you getwater on them, and the movie
The Gremlins is based on thatpremise.
Oh and so it's just a throwbackto to the the gremlins.
DYLAN (53:04):
Wait, so you get you get water on them?
JOE (53:07):
Yeah, so you can multiply you have this little these
little furry gremlins that arecute, and when you if you get
water on them or feed them afteruh midnight, then they grow
these other like nasty gremlinsthat yeah, that like spawn
basically.
DYLAN (53:26):
And so that's crazy.
JOE (53:28):
Yeah, so that'll be one that we'll we'll watch, and it's
more in the the Goonies likekind of um genre of things, so
it's not wh a horror movie, it'smore of a okay yeah, can't kind
of campy funny.
Gotcha.
DYLAN (53:43):
I I was wondering, I was like, is it like super scary
then?
JOE (53:48):
Yeah, yeah, no, it sounds like it would be, or it could be
too.
And then uh a nod to Supermanand the theme is when uh sloth
shows his Superman shirt.
And that's a total that's atotal tribute to Richard Donner.
Yeah, it's a total they had tothrow that in because it's
Richard Donner.
And I mean they play the fullthat the cool thing about that
(54:11):
is they play the full Supermantheme.
You know, it's not even youknow, in other movies it would
have to be a uh like here's athree-second snippet of
something that sounds like it,you know, but they're like it's
Richard Donner's the director,he has the rights to the song,
boom, you know, we're we'redoing a Superman, so yeah.
And that that's the best thingabout this movie again, is is
(54:35):
having Richard Donner and StevenSpielberg and Chris Columbus on
these this movie, it's just Imean it makes it it makes it
what it is, you know.
DYLAN (54:47):
I I always appreciate practical effects.
You talked about that before,yeah.
So all of the practical sets onit.
I think the most that they usedum uh green screen or whatever
it was is in the organ room whenthe floor falls out.
And I feel like that's supernoticeable, or to me it was
(55:11):
super noticeable, um you know,but limited by the technology of
the diamond and such.
JOE (55:18):
Yeah.
Um there's a point when they'rewhen they first I think when
they first go in to the big caveor whatever, and you can or
when they hold up the coin,actually, when they're they're
just they're on the ridge,they're they're doing, you know,
they're on their bikes.
Um that's a cool scene,actually, because you can
(55:41):
actually notice if you rewatchit, Sean Aston drops the map.
But he but he like throws downhis bike real quick, runs back,
gets the map.
DYLAN (55:52):
I was wondering what that was about.
JOE (55:54):
Yeah, it was basically he dropped it on accident and he
tried to save the shot.
And so he did that whole thingto and it looks really cool.
DYLAN (56:02):
Like he Yeah, I mean it looks it looks like Mikey, you
know, accidentally dropped his.
Yeah, I gotta go back for it.
Yeah, okay.
I I couldn't see what hedropped or what really was going
on, but I did notice I waslike, why did he circle back
around?
JOE (56:17):
Yeah.
But when they get to the ridgeand they hold up the coin and
they're trying to figure outwhere where they're supposed to
be, um they do a shot where it'sof the kids and behind them is
the is the you know theforeground the you know the the
coast.
It's a blue screen shot and youcan tell like a lot and the
(56:41):
other cast gives Richard Johnnera bad time.
And I think Corey Felman says,you mean you could you could
make us think a man could umcould fly, but you couldn't pull
this off.
And so like you know, as far aspractical effects, I'm sure
they forgot to get the shot, andinstead of fly flying everybody
(57:02):
back to, you know, Oregon orwhatever, they just did it in a
in a studio, and that's that'sthe way it ended up.
But that's kind of how thingsgo.
Um with shooting a film, it'slike you know, you're going
through all your shots andyou're like, oh no, we forgot to
get this one, so you have to goback and do something that's
you know that's not normal ordoesn't look as you know um as
(57:28):
fit to when you were shootingeverything together.
And and I guess this movie theyshot chronologically, so oh
really?
Yeah, and that's very rare fora movie.
Like usually if you're you knowyou're on the set of this this
particular thing and it endshere and it ends there, yeah.
You you you shoot it, you shootall those scenes in that one
(57:51):
place, and then you go to thenext place and shoe all shoot
all the scenes, but they hadthey did it chronologically, so
I gotcha.
Yeah.
DYLAN (58:01):
So Joe, how many truffle shuffles out of ten would you
rate this?
JOE (58:07):
I think I'm gonna give it a six point five.
DYLAN (58:10):
Yeah, I would I would definitely have to agree on the
six point five.
Um for me, it's definitely notone that I would feel like
running back to to watch overand over again.
Um but I thought as kind of a aone-off, I thought it was a
good watch.
(58:30):
I mean, I was entertained, butI wouldn't go out of my way to
watch it again.
JOE (58:36):
Yeah, and I didn't I didn't grow up necessarily watching
it, so yeah, that's that's Ithink that's part of why too.
Some people yeah, they theygrew up watching it and all
that, and for me it was it itwas until later.
Um but I do like it, I do enjoyit, and I do appreciate the you
know, how it's as a moviehistorically has contributed to
(59:00):
cinema.
You know.
DYLAN (59:02):
Yep.
Yeah, because there's there'sdefinitely a lot of things that
had takeaways from it.
Is the Goonies the best kidkids on an adventure movie ever?
JOE (59:18):
It's out there.
DYLAN (59:22):
Yeah, I mean Yeah, I would agree with that.
I wouldn't say it would be mygo-to kids on adventure movie,
but I also can't think of oneright now that I would say like,
oh, you want a kids onadventure movie you know, here
(59:44):
it is.
JOE (59:44):
Yeah, right.
The only one that sticks in mymind that's really truly that is
Goonies that I can think of.
But that's not Stranger Things.
I mean Stranger Things is awhole different level of You
know.
Right.
But again, it it it tookGoonies to make Stranger Things.
(01:00:06):
Yeah, very true.
DYLAN (01:00:07):
So maybe it is the best kids on Adventure movie.
JOE (01:00:11):
Maybe it's the only one I can fathom his ever being one.
So uh we already determinedthat I'm chunk, and I would say
I'm probably a little bit ofmouth, but I'm probably a Mikey
too.
Where would you put yourself?
Um Yeah, I think out of Well,none of us are a Troy.
DYLAN (01:00:36):
Oh, absolutely not.
I think out of those ones,though, I would say that I
probably lean most towards data.
JOE (01:00:44):
Yeah.
Okay.
DYLAN (01:00:46):
So I I definitely like my my gadgets and gizmos.
JOE (01:00:51):
Yeah.
Next week we're trading pirateships for plutonium.
Join us as we head back to 1985for one of the most iconic
adventures ever made.
And I know that other podcastshave covered this movie, but
this was filmed in my backyard.
So back to the future, it is.
Because where we're going, wedon't need Rhodes.
DYLAN (01:01:12):
There it is.
He said it, folks.
Well, thank you all forlistening.
And if you have any favoriteGoonie moments that we did not
cover, let us know.
Check out our socials.
All the links are down in thedescription of where you can
find us.
Like, subscribe.
Patreon.
Patreon.
(01:01:34):
Dylan, you Goonie.
I'm keeping that in there.
JOE (01:01:41):
That's it for this week.
So now go find your owntreasure map and remember
Goonies never say die.
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