In this first of two episodes with Mark, he and Brent discuss growing up in James City County Virginia, Being the second best guitar player in his high school, being drawn to government classes in school and ending up with a degree in political science, the confluence of southern pride and punk rock, at one time wanting to be a professor, being "of" a place, Ozzy pantsing Bill Ward, Lil Boosie, L.O.G. having commercial success despite all their best efforts, finding a spiritual bottom and much more.
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