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The latest episode of the HeadHunter's NW podcast, features a special discussion with Cindy Rooney, Vice President of the Oregon Hunters Association (OHA), and Amy Patrick, Policy Director at OHA. This episode highlights the mission and work of the Oregon Hunters Association, which boasts approximately 14,000 members and 26 chapters dedicated to hunting and wildlife conservation in Oregon. Cindy and Amy discuss the legislative and conservation efforts of OHA, the women-centric initiatives within the organization, and the newly created position of Executive Director.
Cindy and Amy share their experiences and involvement with OHA, providing an in-depth look at the organization’s impact and future goals. Whether you're a seasoned hunter, a conservation enthusiast, or simply interested in nonprofit work especially as a candidate for the Executive Director’s position, this episode offers valuable insights into the role and growth of OHA.
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(00:00):
Hi everyone.
Welcome to anotherHeadHunter's NW podcast.
This is pretty special.
We haven't done a podcast forquite a while with another
great nonprofit, so I think.
This is gonna be prettyfun, pretty special.
Not to mention I have twodynamic knockout ladies who are
of their own accord successful.
(00:22):
So this is kind of fun.
But even if you're not intononprofits, don't hang up because
this is gonna be really cool.
We're we are doing this to bringawareness to Oregon Hunters Association,
but also because we're excited toannounce that we're recruiting on.
A newly created position for theorganization, the really hard, hard
(00:46):
work of all the members and all the,the directors and the board members.
And, and Amy, who's the lobbyist policydirector, I think is the right term.
This has netted the organizationthe need for an executive director.
So we're gonna talk about that openposition at the end of the podcast.
(01:08):
But for now, I wanna welcome CindyRooney who is the Vice President
of Oregon Hunters Association ontheir board, and also Amy Patrick,
who is the policy director andthey're both located in Oregon.
And welcome ladies to the podcast.
Thank you.
Thank you guys.
(01:29):
Well maybe we could start with I'llleave this to either one of you.
We didn't really prep for this.
Who wants to tell our viewers aboutwhat Oregon Hunter's Association is?
I mean, I could do it,but I am not qualified.
Like you guys.
I will let Cindy, Cindy's the vicepresident, so I'll let her start.
(01:50):
Okay.
Sydney Oregon Hunters Association is anOregon nonprofit based around hunting
and conservation for Oregon Wildlife.
We are approximately 14,000 membersstrong, 26 chapters around the state.
And we are active all across the stateand different conservation projects.
(02:12):
We're active at the, at thecapitol with Amy being there.
We do tons of differentthings across the state.
It's important to, to do the conservationwork, to improve and, and enjoy
our hunting heritage and to ensurethat, so that's what Oregon Hunter's
Association really is truly about.
Yeah.
And it's made up of a lotof members and 26 chapters.
(02:36):
So it doesn't matter where you live,there's a chapter close to you.
Mm-hmm.
And it's not limited toonly people in Oregon.
This could be people who hunt in Oregon.
It could be people who visit.
It could be people whobelieve in conservation.
I mean, Oregon is one ofthe most beautiful states.
Our country.
It really is.
(02:56):
I mean, it's stunning andit's very diverse, right?
It's high desert and it's gotall kinds of different areas.
But Amy, maybe you could kind oftell us a little bit about the
legislative part of what you do,because OHA has almost three arms.
Is that right, Cindy?
The conservation, the legislative,and I forgot the other one.
(03:23):
That's too obvious.
See, it's too obvious.
So maybe Amy, you could fill us inon the legislative part and because
people don't probably realize, or ifthey do, it's really always changing.
It's never the same for you all.
Bet.
That's very true.
And OHA is pretty unique in that upuntil this last legislative session
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that we had here in Oregon we're theonly organization that has prioritized
having a full-time lobbyist on staff.
And so generally it's justbeen me in the capitol.
There's other organizations thatmaybe have some folks that come in
every once in a while to do testimony,but having a full-time person in the
building really makes a differencein, what you're able to track and
what you're able to get involved in.
(04:08):
I'd like to say that I thinkwe've, we've pushed OHA into some
conversations that maybe we haven'tbeen involved in in the past.
Really trying to make sure that the folksin Salem understand what conservation
really means and how that includes huntersand anglers and what that looks like.
And that has been a little bit of a,you know, a, a challenge at times.
(04:29):
I think there's a misnomer.
Particularly in urban settingsabout what conservation is and what
groups are part of conservation.
So there's a lot of education thatgoes on with legislators around that.
But so OHE has been in a veryunique position to really
lay some heavy groundwork.
As far as the, the legislativepiece, it does change frequently.
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Oregon is a blue state.
Our legislature is at,at a Democrat majority.
And so that makes it interesting towork within and try to prioritize
funding and just the attention thatnatural resources and conservation tend
to need from our general fund budget.
And just in general when we're trying toput forward new concepts for wildlife.
(05:11):
Yeah, that's a big job youtook on and it's needed.
It's really important, you know,our our political action committees,
our policy folks like yourself,lobbyists, you know, I think they
tend to get a bad name, and I don't,I don't think it needs to be that way.
They're super important because it'sreally about education and those
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bills and all that information.
By the time you hear about it,it's already down the line.
Yeah.
So I'm sure having someone thereon the ground is really important.
Well, and as an example, and we justcame out of our, our most recent long
session in June, and in the course of thatsession there were 4,000 bills drafted.
And so when you think aboutlegislators and the, just the amount
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of concepts that are thrown at them,they don't have time to really.
Understand or researcheverything that comes at them.
And so that's really where it pays tohave somebody in the building where
you can say, Hey, this is a, this billmaybe is a bad idea and this is why.
This is the second and third orderof what might happen here, or this
one, this bill, we actually think isa really good idea and this is why.
(06:20):
And it's just that educational pieceof helping legislators to grasp
that many concepts, you know, overthat such a short period of time.
Yeah.
And the, the members really they're reallyimportant in this, and I'm sure you, you,
it's hard to continue that education foryour members as well, so you know, if
that's something you're interested in.
(06:42):
It's kind of unusual to, like you said,to have a, a hunting organization.
That also you could, youreally participate as a
member and be a part of that.
Mm-hmm.
That's an interestingprocess in your state.
Certainly valuable.
Well, Cindy, there's a lotmore to OHA than legislative.
The, can you talk a little bit aboutthe conservation and I do wanna touch
(07:06):
on somewhere in here about, I wannaknow what your members get out of this.
It's so cool because you canbring your families to this.
There's even women of OHA.
Could you maybe touchon that a little bit?
Sure.
I can talk about the conservation first.
So we have, like I said, 26chapters around the state.
(07:26):
All of those chaptersare ran by volunteers.
Matter of fact.
Most of our board, all ofour board are volunteers.
Yeah.
And everybody that's involved inthis or organization does different
conservation projects around the state.
I wish I would've spoke to Tyler,who is our conservation director
just before this, but I think lastyear we logged, what, 26 projects.
(07:49):
I think so.
Wow.
I think it was the 20 same amount.
I remember it being like the sameamount of chapters as we do projects.
So we did 26 chapter, we did so26 projects around the state.
They did everything from planting, newfoliage in burned areas, which Oregon
has a lot of burned area right now.
They did.
Building fences around differentlocations, meadows so that we could
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open those during winter rangeseasons and close them, keep the
cattle out during the summers.
They did projects all over the state.
We also do projects where chapters go outand they man gates for private landowners
allowing hunters to access those, thosedifferent lands during hunting season.
So they open the gates at daylight, theyclose the gates at dust, and you, during
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that time, you're allowed to accessthat property to hunt where otherwise
we wouldn't have the ability to do that.
So.
There's different projects forall the way around the state.
Something for anybody who's interestedin that kind of work to get involved in.
I personally have friends that are nothunters, but that's what they like to
do is come to OHA and they like to godo those conservation projects so you
don't have to be a hunter in order togo out into the conservation portion.
(08:58):
The women of OHA is a great program.
Thanks to Amy a few years ago when shewas hired, seven or eight, I guess it's
not a few years ago now, seven or eightyears ago now, or maybe even longer.
When Amy was hired the very firstthing that she did was come down and
meet with me in Roseburg, and herand I sat down and talked, and our
dream was to start the women of OJ.
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And what this is, is a, is a special andsafe place for women of every different
level of hunting, skill and ability.
And even those that are not currentlyhunters that are just interested
in being outdoors to come and be ina safe place to talk about things
that we don't necessarily wanna talkwith all of our husbands and guy
friends that we hunt or fish with.
(09:41):
And to also have a place where we can talkabout those things that are really women.
Centric.
And so we want, we started this programand there's 225 members, I think is
what I seen last time currently on that.
And that includes people that arenot members of OHA that have signed
up for different projects or justto receive our newsletter that
(10:03):
eventually come over and become ofOregon Hunters Association member.
We have a yearly event.
This year we're having another one wherewe'll have approximately 30 women, 32
women out in the field on a chucker hunt.
We do this, this will be oursecond year of this event.
It's a great opportunity.
But we normally try to coincidethat with a conservation project.
(10:24):
Unfortunately, this year wejust weren't able to get the
conservation project portion in.
There's just a little bitof something for everybody.
There's also the Learn to Hunt programthat we have for adult onset hunters
that wanna learn, and that's somethingthrough Oregon Hunters Association and
OD FW that we're actively involved in.
Wow, that's amazing.
(10:44):
Ladies, I did not know that you, you twowere the founders of that, so congrats.
Yeah, that's huge.
You know, I mean, when I livedin Oregon, I would've loved that.
And I love that you, I love thatyou can go and do things outdoors.
You don't have to be a hunter.
You don't even need to own a gun.
(11:04):
Yep.
You don't have to worry.
Like I, I, the chucker hunt makesme think, oh, my shoulder, I'm
so afraid of shooting my shotgun.
But you, there's, that's not how it is.
You could go and just visit.
Mm-hmm.
Like what?
You know, what does it mean?
Or all those questions aboutbeing outdoors that you think,
oh, I don't wanna ask this.
Yeah.
What a great environment.
(11:25):
And it would be so great to have mothersand daughters to something like that.
What a great opportunity to bond.
We really
saw a lot
of cool interaction between our moreexperienced hunters and our new hunters.
So in our inaugural year last year,the the conservation project and
checker hunt we had some ladieswho are super accomplished hunters,
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and we had several ladies who hadnever picked up a shotgun before.
And the bonds that we saw formover the course of the three days.
A lot of those gals have gottentogether now on their own after the
event and gone out and done otherhunts together and other just come
along with me while I go scout orcome along with me while we do this.
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Getting them into the, the woods ina way that is really comfortable and
we really, that was one of the goalsis we really wanted to give women.
That dual space to learn and mentor.
And we've just seen, seen it grow.
It's only been operational forabout a year and a half, and so
we've seen so much growth in it.
What a great way to getoutdoors and be comfortable.
(12:30):
That's really cool.
That's really, really special.
Wow.
That's cool.
Well see.
Now I've told you I didn't need a list.
I knew we would go through these things.
I have this list of questions, everyonein front of me that I may not get to
half of them well because I knew we'dget, get off on a subject and I had no
idea you guys were so involved with that.
That's really, really special.
(12:52):
Let's talk a little bit about,what you think the challenges and
opportunities are for, if you don'tmind, maybe we could talk a little bit
about what the biggest threat facingOregon's hunting heritage is now and
what, what do you think OHA is doing?
Or maybe we could talk about just.
What do you think that the hot topics are?
(13:13):
I think there's several, andthat's why I'm kind of hesitating.
I'm like, I know we can't cover 'em all,but I, and I know Amy, there were some
legislative things that happened, butmaybe if you guys just have some thoughts.
I, I don't know what the biggestchallenges are, but it's pretty amazing.
You have 26 chapters and you've grownso much, so you're doing something
(13:36):
right to overcome these challenges.
I, and I think that one of the challengeswe see is the changing demographic in our
hunters and in that hunting community.
And so, you know, we've alwaysbeen very invested in youth and,
and bringing the youth along.
Every chapter does a lot of youthday events and things like that.
Now adding the women of OHA and theLearn to Hunt pieces, which are aimed
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at slightly different demographics,really working to try to do what we
can to help smooth that cliff that theytalk about with our age demographic
and bring more people into the fold.
One of those things too, I think thatis important is, again, going back to
that, that piece around conservationand what hunting means for conservation.
(14:20):
That's a really unique.
Place to start with people from a moreurban setting who maybe didn't grow up.
I didn't grow up hunting and soI, you know, I, I can relate to
that background of not havingthat generational understanding.
So that conservation piece andthe sustainability piece really
allow us to have some of thosebetter conversations in there.
(14:40):
So I think that piece, the changingdemographic in Oregon, I do think we face
some political challenges that will havea ripple effect on our hunting community.
Whether that is you know, some farreaching gun control bills, we've seen a
lot of those come through the legislaturethat would have the potential to impact.
Our, our hunting community.
Not all of them, but some of them.
(15:01):
And so that's something thatwe watch very closely as well.
And then I think the other one for me isjust our changing landscape as, as habitat
changes and how that affects our wildlife.
And then what do we need to be doingas conservationists to recognize
that and offset what we can.
So for me, I think those arekind of the top three things
(15:22):
that, that we're faced with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do you think?
Cindy?
Amy and I think a lot alike.
So
she actually touched on everythingthat I was gonna say, which is
kind of funny because you couldtell we work a lot together.
So but the other thing is, isOHA itself has a lot of struggles
as far as not, not struggles.
(15:43):
We need to improve on ourabilities for outreach.
And, and I see that we are doingthat with women of OHAI see that
we're doing that with Learn to Hunt.
But bringing those.
I hate to say younger members, but young.
The 30, 20 somethings, even the 40something members into the fold and
bring their families into the fold.
'cause OHA is a greatfamily oriented program.
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There's a lot of things for us todo as far as a family is concerned.
That's one of the challengesthat OHA itself has, and we're
working on that through, like Isaid, through different programs.
But overall, as the state, like Amy said,we have legislative, legislative problems,
we have struggles with conservation asthe landscape changes and especially
(16:28):
with all the fires that we've had,like over the last, what, five years.
There's just a ton of conservationwork to be done, and OHA 14,000 members
cannot cover all the acreage in Oregon.
And also just our ability to get morehunters involved with the organization.
You know, you know itself.
(16:48):
So those are some of the things that,that Amy touched on, but I'll just, that
I just wanna cover a little bit further.
Yeah.
It's, it's amazing though how it'sgrown and an OHA is actually pretty
progressive in a lot of areas.
The website is very good.
I know you're always looking toimprove it, but that's any website.
(17:09):
But you recently have launchedan app as well, and that's a new.
A new feature, and that'squite a big step to take.
Your 26 chapters, they're all going thesame direction and they're doing their
own fundraisers in their own areas,and that money goes to those areas.
(17:30):
So they have a lot of sayin where that spend is.
In those 26 chapters in their area.
So, I mean, it is pretty amazing.
You could easily bring a family tothese banquets and it's very family
friendly and you've got people thatyou have things in common with, right?
(17:50):
When you, when you start, Imean, you're right in the door.
You have things in common.
You're wondering how you'regonna find your, your like tribe.
This is a great way to do it.
The money stays in Oregon.
You know, this is whateverfundraising is done.
This isn't shipped off to another state.
This is right there in Oregon.
That is probably one of the mostunique things I think about OHA.
(18:12):
Because we're Oregon centric andall of that fundraising stays here.
We, we really focus on what wecan can get our hands around and
that keeps us, I think, it keepsus centered on what's important.
It keeps us centered on ourmission statement, and it keeps us
centered on our chapters and, andtheir local level pieces there.
So it, it makes us unique and Ithink it makes us very nimble also,
(18:36):
especially when it comes to thelegislative work and things like that.
I think it's very special, very unique.
It is.
Not everyone has this in their state andvery few have this power behind them.
You can actually see things happening.
And you guys are good about posting thaton your website, what you've accomplished.
Well, let's talk a little bitabout this executive director role.
(18:58):
I'm excited, of course.
This is a pretty big deal.
You know, this is and this is areally united board that I'm have
the opportunity to work with.
I am thrilled to workwith the hiring committee.
So it's only part ofthe board, right, Cindy?
Yep.
Yep.
But everyone is united and I think.
I think people don'trealize how unusual that is.
(19:21):
It's very unusual from myperspective to have a group that's
all going the same direction.
It doesn't mean every day everyoneagrees or that there aren't
things that we've worked through.
But from my exposure so farit's been pretty impressive.
So do you wanna talk a littlebit, Cindy, about what we're
looking for the, the key points.
(19:43):
Well, first of all, let's, let's back
up a little bit, Dwayne.
The reason we're doing this isbecause our current state coordinator,
Dwayne, has been with us for, for30 years and the poor guy, he's
decided that he wants to cut back.
We're not letting him go,but he wants to cut back.
So we're allowing him to do that.
And as part of that, we started talkingabout as a board, we started talking about
(20:04):
where is OHA going and what do we need?
And the executive director positionwas the first thing that came.
As part of the discussion.
So we're looking for somebodywho is interested in running a
nonprofit, I mean, and is interestedin hunting and conservation and
all the things that we stand for.
The job itself is gonnabe, I'm not gonna fly.
(20:26):
The job description is, is a lot.
However, you have lots of help.
You have great staff.
We have a wonderful staff, we have asmall staff, but they're wonderful staff.
One of which is Amy.
We have just a lot of opportunityhere for somebody to come in
and grow this organization andthat's what we're looking for.
Is this somebody who to come, come inand help us grow this organization.
(20:48):
'cause everybody wants to seeus get past that 14,000 strong
and bring the chapters in.
Not into the fold, but to bring everybodyinto more of a communicative situation.
'cause having chapters around thestate communication is difficult.
You got 26 chapters, or they range fromall corners and all areas of the state.
(21:08):
And so having an executivedirector to help with.
That will be wonderful as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bless Dwayne.
He is he's the one to thankfor all of the marketing.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, he's just in a little bitof everything and he's been great
to work with, so thankfully he has,he's going to be around to help this
(21:29):
transition, so you're not losing that.
Knowledge and that experience andyour staff, they're very experienced.
Like Amy, if Amy's the new person,she's been there seven years, right?
Yep.
So these are grownups that knowhow to do their own job, that
don't need to be micromanaged.
We're really looking for someone to help.
(21:50):
Take this organization to the nextlevel for the benefit of the members
and benefit conservation and the thingsthat are important to the members.
So I'm excited.
It is a big job description, but it'sreally our, you know, three-year plan.
Here's where we wanna go.
Here's, here's what we'd like to do.
(22:11):
So we don't expect someone towalk in and have all of that,
but this is where we wanna go.
And I think, we'll, you know,it's a really great opportunity.
It's so fun and it's gonnabe a lot of work for sure.
But you know, this is a really great jobbecause it's only the state of Oregon.
You know, there's a lot of otherpositions like this that you have to
(22:32):
travel all over the United States.
This is actually, you could, youcould live a normal life and do this
well.
And I also think this is a greatopportunity for somebody who wants to
come in and grow with an organization.
'cause this is a great time to do that.
We're not, you're not coming into ahuge organization that's nationwide,
that's, you know, hundreds ofthousands of members strong.
(22:52):
You're coming in.
Even though we're not a neworganization, we're still growing.
We're still.
Trying to advance.
We're still trying to get ourfooting into the new landscape
of all this wonderful technologythat we have available to us now.
Yeah, so there's a lot ofopportunity for somebody to grow
within the, within that position.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And to come into an established,like you said, established staff,
(23:15):
so they're, you're not coming in andhaving create necessarily new space.
But you're coming in with a supportstaff that is, is very invested in
seeing this position be successful.
Because we are all OHA membersand we wanna see the see it
grow, and we realize that we'rekind of on the cusp of something
great here and we just need this.
(23:35):
This right person to help us get there.
Yeah.
Good point, Amy.
Yeah, I think you guys, you know,you, you guys know what you're looking
for and I think we'll find them.
We're, I'm so excited.
I know it's taken us a little bit toget this podcast off the ground, but.
We have a lot of people who listento this and watch this on YouTube.
(23:57):
And I think it's a great way to talkabout this wonderful organization and
for people to get a feel for who thesepeople are that work there, you know,
because you guys are right there.
I mean, I've been, I don't know howmany video calls have we had already,
Cindy, and, you know, I mean these, thesepeople are working, you know, every day.
Even the volunteer board members are.
(24:20):
I don't know how they do it.
You've got nobody has any extratime and yet they find it.
I gotta say, Cindy's one of thehardest working people I know.
She is, she is always there andalways makes time, and I don't,
I don't know how she does it.
Well, thanks Amy, but Ifeel the same about you.
You can tell I keep trying to movebecause there's things behind me, all
(24:40):
my works behind me back there, so,
well, I think that the good news aboutthat is if you, you know, if I think
about it from the executive director'sposition coming into a position, I
would want to know that I have peoplewho are enthusiastic and committed
to the success of this because noone does anything alone and I think.
(25:04):
You know, this is one of the things Iwanted to highlight on this podcast,
and you guys of course exemplify that.
So I I, it's a good role.
Well, I just wanna say too, youknow, we have a wonderful staff.
I've said that before, but you alsohave a board that is a working board.
I mean, everybody's involved indifferent committees, everybody's
(25:24):
involved at a different level.
Everybody's busy.
So you're not coming in to,people that don't do anything.
Everybody's, and some of us,myself included, we're not
only on the state board, but weserve on our local boards too.
And we're involved withall the local events.
So you have a very active staff andyou have a very active board too.
(25:46):
And our staff volunteers at at differentchapters for different events and does all
sorts of things around the state as well.
So
yeah,
these people believe in our mission.
It's not uncommon
to hear the, the phrase ridefor the brand amongst the staff.
That's, that is the overriding.
But I think thought process amongstall of us is we ride for the brand.
(26:10):
That's really important to anyonewho's gonna come into this role.
Is to have that kind of support.
Because again, it's not common.
This is not always the case.
But this is a real actual workingboard and a real actual working staff.
So there's help.
So as we kind of wrap this up,I wondered if we, we might get
(26:30):
to one of my questions, I guess.
No, we covered a couple of them.
If someone who's listening is reallyinterested and they are inspired and
they wanna get involved with OHA,what's the first step they should take?
What do you think?
Well, they can get on the website andcontact one of the state board members or
one of their local chapters and take itfrom there or, or contact Michelle down
(26:55):
at our state office and she'll give youall sorts of instructions on who to call.
Mm-hmm.
It's
pretty simple really.
But my number's on the website,Amy's number's on the website, so
you can always call us to email us.
We're easy to contact.
Yeah, it's a great membership anda great, and this is not something
that has to break the bank here.
This is, this is not you know,you're not gonna have to sit here
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and pony up $10,000 to join the club.
That's not the kind ofthing we're talking about.
We're talking about something that is veryaffordable and you get way more back from
it by just even going to the banquets.
What a great.
Just what a yearly great event orwhatever gathering your local chapter has.
It's just a really, that'sgonna feed your soul.
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That's the kind of stuff that lifeis actually supposed to be about, not
necessarily your nine to five every day.
The local chapters have meetingmembership meetings every month where
they invite speakers and they have,most of the time it's at a restaurant
somewhere, so they eat together andthey have at some of these meetings.
So there's always something to do.
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That's great.
That's really great.
Well, I really appreciate you two beingwilling to do this and be on the podcast.
Thank you so much, your excellent guests.
Be careful you might be invited back.
I really appreciate it and I'm, and I'mhonored to be able to talk about Oregon
Hunters Association because I really dobelieve it's just an outstanding mission.
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Clearly outstanding people and I'mlooking forward to meeting your
new executive director when youguys decide who you're gonna hire.
So if you're listening to this and you'reinterested, go to the Oregon, hunters.org.
You can find the information there or youcan find it on, you can reach out to Head
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Hunters Northwest or anyone at Oregon.
Hunters they can direct you.
So thank you very much for beingon the podcast and until next
time, thanks for listening.
Thank
you.
Hi everyone.
Welcome to anotherHeadHunter's NW podcast.
This is pretty special.
We haven't done a podcast forquite a while with another
great nonprofit, so I think.
This is gonna be prettyfun, pretty special.
Not to mention I have twodynamic knockout ladies who are
of their own accord successful.
(00:22):
So this is kind of fun.
But even if you're not intononprofits, don't hang up because
this is gonna be really cool.
We're we are doing this to bringawareness to Oregon Hunters Association,
but also because we're excited toannounce that we're recruiting on.
A newly created position for theorganization, the really hard, hard
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work of all the members and all the,the directors and the board members.
And, and Amy, who's the lobbyist policydirector, I think is the right term.
This has netted the organizationthe need for an executive director.
So we're gonna talk about that openposition at the end of the podcast.
(01:08):
But for now, I wanna welcome CindyRooney who is the Vice President
of Oregon Hunters Association ontheir board, and also Amy Patrick,
who is the policy director andthey're both located in Oregon.
And welcome ladies to the podcast.
Thank you.
Thank you guys.
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Well maybe we could start with I'llleave this to either one of you.
We didn't really prep for this.
Who wants to tell our viewers aboutwhat Oregon Hunter's Association is?
I mean, I could do it,but I am not qualified.
Like you guys.
I will let Cindy, Cindy's the vicepresident, so I'll let her start.
(01:50):
Okay.
Sydney Oregon Hunters Association is anOregon nonprofit based around hunting
and conservation for Oregon Wildlife.
We are approximately 14,000 membersstrong, 26 chapters around the state.
And we are active all across the stateand different conservation projects.
(02:12):
We're active at the, at thecapitol with Amy being there.
We do tons of differentthings across the state.
It's important to, to do the conservationwork, to improve and, and enjoy
our hunting heritage and to ensurethat, so that's what Oregon Hunter's
Association really is truly about.
Yeah.
And it's made up of a lotof members and 26 chapters.
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So it doesn't matter where you live,there's a chapter close to you.
Mm-hmm.
And it's not limited toonly people in Oregon.
This could be people who hunt in Oregon.
It could be people who visit.
It could be people whobelieve in conservation.
I mean, Oregon is one ofthe most beautiful states.
Our country.
It really is.
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I mean, it's stunning andit's very diverse, right?
It's high desert and it's gotall kinds of different areas.
But Amy, maybe you could kind oftell us a little bit about the
legislative part of what you do,because OHA has almost three arms.
Is that right, Cindy?
The conservation, the legislative,and I forgot the other one.
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That's too obvious.
See, it's too obvious.
So maybe Amy, you could fill us inon the legislative part and because
people don't probably realize, or ifthey do, it's really always changing.
It's never the same for you all.
Bet.
That's very true.
And OHA is pretty unique in that upuntil this last legislative session
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that we had here in Oregon we're theonly organization that has prioritized
having a full-time lobbyist on staff.
And so generally it's justbeen me in the capitol.
There's other organizations thatmaybe have some folks that come in
every once in a while to do testimony,but having a full-time person in the
building really makes a differencein, what you're able to track and
what you're able to get involved in.
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I'd like to say that I thinkwe've, we've pushed OHA into some
conversations that maybe we haven'tbeen involved in in the past.
Really trying to make sure that the folksin Salem understand what conservation
really means and how that includes huntersand anglers and what that looks like.
And that has been a little bit of a,you know, a, a challenge at times.
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I think there's a misnomer.
Particularly in urban settingsabout what conservation is and what
groups are part of conservation.
So there's a lot of education thatgoes on with legislators around that.
But so OHE has been in a veryunique position to really
lay some heavy groundwork.
As far as the, the legislativepiece, it does change frequently.
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Oregon is a blue state.
Our legislature is at,at a Democrat majority.
And so that makes it interesting towork within and try to prioritize
funding and just the attention thatnatural resources and conservation tend
to need from our general fund budget.
And just in general when we're trying toput forward new concepts for wildlife.
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Yeah, that's a big job youtook on and it's needed.
It's really important, you know,our our political action committees,
our policy folks like yourself,lobbyists, you know, I think they
tend to get a bad name, and I don't,I don't think it needs to be that way.
They're super important because it'sreally about education and those
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bills and all that information.
By the time you hear about it,it's already down the line.
Yeah.
So I'm sure having someone thereon the ground is really important.
Well, and as an example, and we justcame out of our, our most recent long
session in June, and in the course of thatsession there were 4,000 bills drafted.
And so when you think aboutlegislators and the, just the amount
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of concepts that are thrown at them,they don't have time to really.
Understand or researcheverything that comes at them.
And so that's really where it pays tohave somebody in the building where
you can say, Hey, this is a, this billmaybe is a bad idea and this is why.
This is the second and third orderof what might happen here, or this
one, this bill, we actually think isa really good idea and this is why.
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And it's just that educational pieceof helping legislators to grasp
that many concepts, you know, overthat such a short period of time.
Yeah.
And the, the members really they're reallyimportant in this, and I'm sure you, you,
it's hard to continue that education foryour members as well, so you know, if
that's something you're interested in.
(06:42):
It's kind of unusual to, like you said,to have a, a hunting organization.
That also you could, youreally participate as a
member and be a part of that.
Mm-hmm.
That's an interestingprocess in your state.
Certainly valuable.
Well, Cindy, there's a lotmore to OHA than legislative.
The, can you talk a little bit aboutthe conservation and I do wanna touch
(07:06):
on somewhere in here about, I wannaknow what your members get out of this.
It's so cool because you canbring your families to this.
There's even women of OHA.
Could you maybe touchon that a little bit?
Sure.
I can talk about the conservation first.
So we have, like I said, 26chapters around the state.
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All of those chaptersare ran by volunteers.
Matter of fact.
Most of our board, all ofour board are volunteers.
Yeah.
And everybody that's involved inthis or organization does different
conservation projects around the state.
I wish I would've spoke to Tyler,who is our conservation director
just before this, but I think lastyear we logged, what, 26 projects.
(07:49):
I think so.
Wow.
I think it was the 20 same amount.
I remember it being like the sameamount of chapters as we do projects.
So we did 26 chapter, we did so26 projects around the state.
They did everything from planting, newfoliage in burned areas, which Oregon
has a lot of burned area right now.
They did.
Building fences around differentlocations, meadows so that we could
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open those during winter rangeseasons and close them, keep the
cattle out during the summers.
They did projects all over the state.
We also do projects where chapters go outand they man gates for private landowners
allowing hunters to access those, thosedifferent lands during hunting season.
So they open the gates at daylight, theyclose the gates at dust, and you, during
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that time, you're allowed to accessthat property to hunt where otherwise
we wouldn't have the ability to do that.
So.
There's different projects forall the way around the state.
Something for anybody who's interestedin that kind of work to get involved in.
I personally have friends that are nothunters, but that's what they like to
do is come to OHA and they like to godo those conservation projects so you
don't have to be a hunter in order togo out into the conservation portion.
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The women of OHA is a great program.
Thanks to Amy a few years ago when shewas hired, seven or eight, I guess it's
not a few years ago now, seven or eightyears ago now, or maybe even longer.
When Amy was hired the very firstthing that she did was come down and
meet with me in Roseburg, and herand I sat down and talked, and our
dream was to start the women of OJ.
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And what this is, is a, is a special andsafe place for women of every different
level of hunting, skill and ability.
And even those that are not currentlyhunters that are just interested
in being outdoors to come and be ina safe place to talk about things
that we don't necessarily wanna talkwith all of our husbands and guy
friends that we hunt or fish with.
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And to also have a place where we can talkabout those things that are really women.
Centric.
And so we want, we started this programand there's 225 members, I think is
what I seen last time currently on that.
And that includes people that arenot members of OHA that have signed
up for different projects or justto receive our newsletter that
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eventually come over and become ofOregon Hunters Association member.
We have a yearly event.
This year we're having another one wherewe'll have approximately 30 women, 32
women out in the field on a chucker hunt.
We do this, this will be oursecond year of this event.
It's a great opportunity.
But we normally try to coincidethat with a conservation project.
(10:24):
Unfortunately, this year wejust weren't able to get the
conservation project portion in.
There's just a little bitof something for everybody.
There's also the Learn to Hunt programthat we have for adult onset hunters
that wanna learn, and that's somethingthrough Oregon Hunters Association and
OD FW that we're actively involved in.
Wow, that's amazing.
(10:44):
Ladies, I did not know that you, you twowere the founders of that, so congrats.
Yeah, that's huge.
You know, I mean, when I livedin Oregon, I would've loved that.
And I love that you, I love thatyou can go and do things outdoors.
You don't have to be a hunter.
You don't even need to own a gun.
(11:04):
Yep.
You don't have to worry.
Like I, I, the chucker hunt makesme think, oh, my shoulder, I'm
so afraid of shooting my shotgun.
But you, there's, that's not how it is.
You could go and just visit.
Mm-hmm.
Like what?
You know, what does it mean?
Or all those questions aboutbeing outdoors that you think,
oh, I don't wanna ask this.
Yeah.
What a great environment.
(11:25):
And it would be so great to have mothersand daughters to something like that.
What a great opportunity to bond.
We really
saw a lot
of cool interaction between our moreexperienced hunters and our new hunters.
So in our inaugural year last year,the the conservation project and
checker hunt we had some ladieswho are super accomplished hunters,
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and we had several ladies who hadnever picked up a shotgun before.
And the bonds that we saw formover the course of the three days.
A lot of those gals have gottentogether now on their own after the
event and gone out and done otherhunts together and other just come
along with me while I go scout orcome along with me while we do this.
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Getting them into the, the woods ina way that is really comfortable and
we really, that was one of the goalsis we really wanted to give women.
That dual space to learn and mentor.
And we've just seen, seen it grow.
It's only been operational forabout a year and a half, and so
we've seen so much growth in it.
What a great way to getoutdoors and be comfortable.
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That's really cool.
That's really, really special.
Wow.
That's cool.
Well see.
Now I've told you I didn't need a list.
I knew we would go through these things.
I have this list of questions, everyonein front of me that I may not get to
half of them well because I knew we'dget, get off on a subject and I had no
idea you guys were so involved with that.
That's really, really special.
(12:52):
Let's talk a little bit about,what you think the challenges and
opportunities are for, if you don'tmind, maybe we could talk a little bit
about what the biggest threat facingOregon's hunting heritage is now and
what, what do you think OHA is doing?
Or maybe we could talk about just.
What do you think that the hot topics are?
(13:13):
I think there's several, andthat's why I'm kind of hesitating.
I'm like, I know we can't cover 'em all,but I, and I know Amy, there were some
legislative things that happened, butmaybe if you guys just have some thoughts.
I, I don't know what the biggestchallenges are, but it's pretty amazing.
You have 26 chapters and you've grownso much, so you're doing something
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right to overcome these challenges.
I, and I think that one of the challengeswe see is the changing demographic in our
hunters and in that hunting community.
And so, you know, we've alwaysbeen very invested in youth and,
and bringing the youth along.
Every chapter does a lot of youthday events and things like that.
Now adding the women of OHA and theLearn to Hunt pieces, which are aimed
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at slightly different demographics,really working to try to do what we
can to help smooth that cliff that theytalk about with our age demographic
and bring more people into the fold.
One of those things too, I think thatis important is, again, going back to
that, that piece around conservationand what hunting means for conservation.
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That's a really unique.
Place to start with people from a moreurban setting who maybe didn't grow up.
I didn't grow up hunting and soI, you know, I, I can relate to
that background of not havingthat generational understanding.
So that conservation piece andthe sustainability piece really
allow us to have some of thosebetter conversations in there.
(14:40):
So I think that piece, the changingdemographic in Oregon, I do think we face
some political challenges that will havea ripple effect on our hunting community.
Whether that is you know, some farreaching gun control bills, we've seen a
lot of those come through the legislaturethat would have the potential to impact.
Our, our hunting community.
Not all of them, but some of them.
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And so that's something thatwe watch very closely as well.
And then I think the other one for me isjust our changing landscape as, as habitat
changes and how that affects our wildlife.
And then what do we need to be doingas conservationists to recognize
that and offset what we can.
So for me, I think those arekind of the top three things
(15:22):
that, that we're faced with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do you think?
Cindy?
Amy and I think a lot alike.
So
she actually touched on everythingthat I was gonna say, which is
kind of funny because you couldtell we work a lot together.
So but the other thing is, isOHA itself has a lot of struggles
as far as not, not struggles.
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We need to improve on ourabilities for outreach.
And, and I see that we are doingthat with women of OHAI see that
we're doing that with Learn to Hunt.
But bringing those.
I hate to say younger members, but young.
The 30, 20 somethings, even the 40something members into the fold and
bring their families into the fold.
'cause OHA is a greatfamily oriented program.
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There's a lot of things for us todo as far as a family is concerned.
That's one of the challengesthat OHA itself has, and we're
working on that through, like Isaid, through different programs.
But overall, as the state, like Amy said,we have legislative, legislative problems,
we have struggles with conservation asthe landscape changes and especially
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with all the fires that we've had,like over the last, what, five years.
There's just a ton of conservationwork to be done, and OHA 14,000 members
cannot cover all the acreage in Oregon.
And also just our ability to get morehunters involved with the organization.
You know, you know itself.
(16:48):
So those are some of the things that,that Amy touched on, but I'll just, that
I just wanna cover a little bit further.
Yeah.
It's, it's amazing though how it'sgrown and an OHA is actually pretty
progressive in a lot of areas.
The website is very good.
I know you're always looking toimprove it, but that's any website.
(17:09):
But you recently have launchedan app as well, and that's a new.
A new feature, and that'squite a big step to take.
Your 26 chapters, they're all going thesame direction and they're doing their
own fundraisers in their own areas,and that money goes to those areas.
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So they have a lot of sayin where that spend is.
In those 26 chapters in their area.
So, I mean, it is pretty amazing.
You could easily bring a family tothese banquets and it's very family
friendly and you've got people thatyou have things in common with, right?
(17:50):
When you, when you start, Imean, you're right in the door.
You have things in common.
You're wondering how you'regonna find your, your like tribe.
This is a great way to do it.
The money stays in Oregon.
You know, this is whateverfundraising is done.
This isn't shipped off to another state.
This is right there in Oregon.
That is probably one of the mostunique things I think about OHA.
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Because we're Oregon centric andall of that fundraising stays here.
We, we really focus on what wecan can get our hands around and
that keeps us, I think, it keepsus centered on what's important.
It keeps us centered on ourmission statement, and it keeps us
centered on our chapters and, andtheir local level pieces there.
So it, it makes us unique and Ithink it makes us very nimble also,
(18:36):
especially when it comes to thelegislative work and things like that.
I think it's very special, very unique.
It is.
Not everyone has this in their state andvery few have this power behind them.
You can actually see things happening.
And you guys are good about posting thaton your website, what you've accomplished.
Well, let's talk a little bitabout this executive director role.
(18:58):
I'm excited, of course.
This is a pretty big deal.
You know, this is and this is areally united board that I'm have
the opportunity to work with.
I am thrilled to workwith the hiring committee.
So it's only part ofthe board, right, Cindy?
Yep.
Yep.
But everyone is united and I think.
I think people don'trealize how unusual that is.
(19:21):
It's very unusual from myperspective to have a group that's
all going the same direction.
It doesn't mean every day everyoneagrees or that there aren't
things that we've worked through.
But from my exposure so farit's been pretty impressive.
So do you wanna talk a littlebit, Cindy, about what we're
looking for the, the key points.
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Well, first of all, let's, let's back
up a little bit, Dwayne.
The reason we're doing this isbecause our current state coordinator,
Dwayne, has been with us for, for30 years and the poor guy, he's
decided that he wants to cut back.
We're not letting him go,but he wants to cut back.
So we're allowing him to do that.
And as part of that, we started talkingabout as a board, we started talking about
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where is OHA going and what do we need?
And the executive director positionwas the first thing that came.
As part of the discussion.
So we're looking for somebodywho is interested in running a
nonprofit, I mean, and is interestedin hunting and conservation and
all the things that we stand for.
The job itself is gonnabe, I'm not gonna fly.
(20:26):
The job description is, is a lot.
However, you have lots of help.
You have great staff.
We have a wonderful staff, we have asmall staff, but they're wonderful staff.
One of which is Amy.
We have just a lot of opportunityhere for somebody to come in
and grow this organization andthat's what we're looking for.
Is this somebody who to come, come inand help us grow this organization.
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'cause everybody wants to seeus get past that 14,000 strong
and bring the chapters in.
Not into the fold, but to bring everybodyinto more of a communicative situation.
'cause having chapters around thestate communication is difficult.
You got 26 chapters, or they range fromall corners and all areas of the state.
(21:08):
And so having an executivedirector to help with.
That will be wonderful as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bless Dwayne.
He is he's the one to thankfor all of the marketing.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, he's just in a little bitof everything and he's been great
to work with, so thankfully he has,he's going to be around to help this
(21:29):
transition, so you're not losing that.
Knowledge and that experience andyour staff, they're very experienced.
Like Amy, if Amy's the new person,she's been there seven years, right?
Yep.
So these are grownups that knowhow to do their own job, that
don't need to be micromanaged.
We're really looking for someone to help.
(21:50):
Take this organization to the nextlevel for the benefit of the members
and benefit conservation and the thingsthat are important to the members.
So I'm excited.
It is a big job description, but it'sreally our, you know, three-year plan.
Here's where we wanna go.
Here's, here's what we'd like to do.
(22:11):
So we don't expect someone towalk in and have all of that,
but this is where we wanna go.
And I think, we'll, you know,it's a really great opportunity.
It's so fun and it's gonnabe a lot of work for sure.
But you know, this is a really great jobbecause it's only the state of Oregon.
You know, there's a lot of otherpositions like this that you have to
(22:32):
travel all over the United States.
This is actually, you could, youcould live a normal life and do this
well.
And I also think this is a greatopportunity for somebody who wants to
come in and grow with an organization.
'cause this is a great time to do that.
We're not, you're not coming into ahuge organization that's nationwide,
that's, you know, hundreds ofthousands of members strong.
(22:52):
You're coming in.
Even though we're not a neworganization, we're still growing.
We're still.
Trying to advance.
We're still trying to get ourfooting into the new landscape
of all this wonderful technologythat we have available to us now.
Yeah, so there's a lot ofopportunity for somebody to grow
within the, within that position.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And to come into an established,like you said, established staff,
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so they're, you're not coming in andhaving create necessarily new space.
But you're coming in with a supportstaff that is, is very invested in
seeing this position be successful.
Because we are all OHA membersand we wanna see the see it
grow, and we realize that we'rekind of on the cusp of something
great here and we just need this.
(23:35):
This right person to help us get there.
Yeah.
Good point, Amy.
Yeah, I think you guys, you know,you, you guys know what you're looking
for and I think we'll find them.
We're, I'm so excited.
I know it's taken us a little bit toget this podcast off the ground, but.
We have a lot of people who listento this and watch this on YouTube.
(23:57):
And I think it's a great way to talkabout this wonderful organization and
for people to get a feel for who thesepeople are that work there, you know,
because you guys are right there.
I mean, I've been, I don't know howmany video calls have we had already,
Cindy, and, you know, I mean these, thesepeople are working, you know, every day.
Even the volunteer board members are.
(24:20):
I don't know how they do it.
You've got nobody has any extratime and yet they find it.
I gotta say, Cindy's one of thehardest working people I know.
She is, she is always there andalways makes time, and I don't,
I don't know how she does it.
Well, thanks Amy, but Ifeel the same about you.
You can tell I keep trying to movebecause there's things behind me, all
(24:40):
my works behind me back there, so,
well, I think that the good news aboutthat is if you, you know, if I think
about it from the executive director'sposition coming into a position, I
would want to know that I have peoplewho are enthusiastic and committed
to the success of this because noone does anything alone and I think.
(25:04):
You know, this is one of the things Iwanted to highlight on this podcast,
and you guys of course exemplify that.
So I I, it's a good role.
Well, I just wanna say too, youknow, we have a wonderful staff.
I've said that before, but you alsohave a board that is a working board.
I mean, everybody's involved indifferent committees, everybody's
(25:24):
involved at a different level.
Everybody's busy.
So you're not coming in to,people that don't do anything.
Everybody's, and some of us,myself included, we're not
only on the state board, but weserve on our local boards too.
And we're involved withall the local events.
So you have a very active staff andyou have a very active board too.
(25:46):
And our staff volunteers at at differentchapters for different events and does all
sorts of things around the state as well.
So
yeah,
these people believe in our mission.
It's not uncommon
to hear the, the phrase ridefor the brand amongst the staff.
That's, that is the overriding.
But I think thought process amongstall of us is we ride for the brand.
(26:10):
That's really important to anyonewho's gonna come into this role.
Is to have that kind of support.
Because again, it's not common.
This is not always the case.
But this is a real actual workingboard and a real actual working staff.
So there's help.
So as we kind of wrap this up,I wondered if we, we might get
(26:30):
to one of my questions, I guess.
No, we covered a couple of them.
If someone who's listening is reallyinterested and they are inspired and
they wanna get involved with OHA,what's the first step they should take?
What do you think?
Well, they can get on the website andcontact one of the state board members or
one of their local chapters and take itfrom there or, or contact Michelle down
(26:55):
at our state office and she'll give youall sorts of instructions on who to call.
Mm-hmm.
It's
pretty simple really.
But my number's on the website,Amy's number's on the website, so
you can always call us to email us.
We're easy to contact.
Yeah, it's a great membership anda great, and this is not something
that has to break the bank here.
This is, this is not you know,you're not gonna have to sit here
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and pony up $10,000 to join the club.
That's not the kind ofthing we're talking about.
We're talking about something that is veryaffordable and you get way more back from
it by just even going to the banquets.
What a great.
Just what a yearly great event orwhatever gathering your local chapter has.
It's just a really, that'sgonna feed your soul.
(27:41):
That's the kind of stuff that lifeis actually supposed to be about, not
necessarily your nine to five every day.
The local chapters have meetingmembership meetings every month where
they invite speakers and they have,most of the time it's at a restaurant
somewhere, so they eat together andthey have at some of these meetings.
So there's always something to do.
(28:03):
That's great.
That's really great.
Well, I really appreciate you two beingwilling to do this and be on the podcast.
Thank you so much, your excellent guests.
Be careful you might be invited back.
I really appreciate it and I'm, and I'mhonored to be able to talk about Oregon
Hunters Association because I really dobelieve it's just an outstanding mission.
(28:26):
Clearly outstanding people and I'mlooking forward to meeting your
new executive director when youguys decide who you're gonna hire.
So if you're listening to this and you'reinterested, go to the Oregon, hunters.org.
You can find the information there or youcan find it on, you can reach out to Head
(28:46):
Hunters Northwest or anyone at Oregon.
Hunters they can direct you.
So thank you very much for beingon the podcast and until next
time, thanks for listening.
Thank
you.
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