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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for
watching so hi everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yvette rose here and
welcome to Reset your Life
Summit here with me and guys,I'm so excited to have an
amazing guest speaker here withme today.
Today we have Will Paulson.
Will.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's an absolute
pleasure.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm really looking forward toit.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Me too, and so, guys,
you know I'm sure most of you
here also know Will, but he'salso one of the UK's leading
business strategists and alsoperformance coaches.
He's also a member of theInternational Coach Federation
and in the last five years, he'sworked with more than 2000
business owners and alsoentrepreneurs, clocking up more
than 300, what is it 300,?
(01:21):
3500 hours Goodness, that's alot.
Will 101 coaching hours andhe's also a very well-respected
keynote speaker.
He's also a Huffington Postauthor and a TEDx speaker.
He's a company owner, owner ofmake it happen, and in 2016, he
was also a finalist for thecoach of the year at the
association of professionalcoaches, trainers and consultant
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awards.
And, last but not least, heeven has an airplane pilot
license.
Well, I'm always seeing youflying around on facebook.
It's amazing.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
I know you're a busy man, soI'm really honored that you know
you put this time aside for us.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It's an absolute
pleasure.
I'm really looking forward toit and uh and yeah, what a
phenomenal summit you puttogether, so it's a privilege to
be a part of it thank you somuch.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So well, you know,
with the way that life has
changed, I'm sure your businessstructure has changed, mine
absolutely has changed and alsobeing a coach such as yourself,
being a speaker, everything hasgone online and the way that we
and the way that we approachbusiness, the way that we
approach life I mean even ourrelationships, even our
relationship with ourselves havechanged so drastically and I've
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seen that we have to reallycome up with new, innovative
ways.
That even surprises me to thisday where I'm thinking, wow,
look at the creativity of whatpeople are coming up with when
there's a problem.
But, as you know, you knowCOVID has been going on for so
long and lockdown has been goingon for so long that we kind of
get stuck in coping strategies,we kind of get stuck in a state
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of patterns and cycles.
And one thing that I've noticedhere, because there's so much
fear around you know theconspiracy around the stress
that's been going on, you knowjust the absolute loss of income
for some people and and justyou know, people just feeling a
sense of loss that we've lostour ability to be and feel clear
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in our lives.
We lost the not really lost,it's just more suppressed
because of stress.
You know, when we're allstressed, we can't really think
straight and we've been all in astate of distress for such a
long period of time.
And one thing that you said thatstrike me really.
You know, that was very untruefor me, that I kind of was like,
yeah, I kind of lost a bit oftouch with that during this time
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of luck and are now coming outof that, and that's clarity.
That is about being clear onceagain about where it is that we
want to move to and go to in ourlives, because everything has
been about survival but nowwe're slowly starting to click
back into a normal sense ofcivilization well, at least to a
certain degree.
And what, in your opinion, interms of you know, would you say
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that clarity is important andwhy we need to reconnect back to
that in today's time?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
What an incredible
question to start with.
So one of the things that I'vedone about for many, many years,
like yourself, is I've studiedlots of different modalities.
You know everything fromneurolinguistic programming to
stoicism, to quantum physics andmetaphysics, and lots and lots
and lots of different modalities, and one of the things that I
always try to do is simplifyeverything down the best way I
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can.
And in my experience, what,what I found is that it it
always starts with clarity.
You know, it always starts withclarity.
That's clarity of thinking,clarity of direction and for
what?
Whilst the, the goal may um.
Well, if you get clear on your,your ultimate goal, the, the
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actual route to get there maychange, and that's, I mean, a
prime example over the lastcouple of years.
I'm a big believer if you setyour goals in stone and your
methods in sand, then you you'lllive a?
Um, a much, much moreharmonious life, and I think it
really, really is key.
So for me, when we break itdown, for me, clarity creates
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certainty.
Certainty creates confidence.
Now, a lot of people they'vesaid they felt fearful, they've
not felt confident, they'reuncertain of what the terrain's
gonna look like and, in myopinion, a lot of the time
that's because they haven't gotclarity.
Now that might be short termclarity If you imagine a snow
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globe, for example.
You take a snow globe and youshaketerm clarity for ourselves,
which might mean a tacticalchange of direction to then be
able to move forward andprogress.
Yeah, I think it's hugelyimportant, hugely important.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Because one thing
that I love, that I know about
you as well, is that from a veryyoung age, like I really want
to kind of like dissect yourbrain because you're so
brilliant at what you do.
It's almost like what I'mseeing is is a is a very
positive pattern for you.
It's like whatever you do,whatever you set your mind to,
it succeeds.
You seem to just do really wellat whatever it is that you want
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to do.
And something that reallystriked me also is that you
already had the sense of justneeding to have clarity about
something before you actuallytake action.
Because from a young age, youknow, there was a part of you
that had a sense of clarity, ofknowing I want to be successful,
not necessarily pinpointingexactly what it is, but just
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feeling that feeling of the wishfulfilled, of being successful.
And what you did was I can onlyimagine is that you felt that
feeling and you're thinking howdo I gain more clarity in
relationship to this feeling ofsuccess?
How do I achieve that?
And I can almost see you asthis little kid looking around
at other successful people andthen thinking what are their
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mindsets like?
How do they create success?
What do they do to get to wherethey need to be, and what can I
copy of that?
This is kind of like from anearly age, you just knew that,
and what I would love to hearfrom you is what can you say to
someone who is feeling a littlebit like I know I need clarity,
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but I'm so stuck in a state ofdistress.
Is there something that you canshare with them that you went
through yourself when you were achild, like tips and techniques
, perspectives and approachesthat you had to really dive into
this?
You know, feeling the feelingof the wish fulfilled and then
going for it, but finding thesteps and breaking it down in
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terms of how do I get to thefeeling that I have and then
applying the knowledge to get meto that place, that end
destination.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, that's a great
question.
It's so funny you picked up onthat.
So I suppose, where I like somany people, their journey, the
catalyst for it is a form ofpain of some sort.
You know, when you go back tochildhood.
In a lot of instances that'sthe case.
Now, what was quite unique forme was that growing up I had a
belief that money equaledhappiness.
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So I went off on a tangent tomake as much money as I could as
early as I could, and thereason for that was I've got two
very wealthy uncles.
One of my uncles is abillionaire, the other one's a
multi-multi-millionaire.
And one of the things I alwaysremember growing up was my dad
saying they just got lucky.
So that was his excuse theyjust got lucky, they just got
lucky.
Anyway, long story short, oneday I came home from school I
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was about 11 years old.
My dad had quit his job to setup a business one of my uncles
that never ended up doinganything, never ended up getting
started.
My dad had already left his job.
He ended up falling into adepression.
And all the stereotypical stuffsteps in separate rooms.
My mom curtain shut all day,didn't leave the house, all the
usual stuff.
Now, 11 years old, I started toconnect the dots on well, uncle
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Mark, he's a billionaire, he'sreally happy.
There's uncle Steve he's amulti-millionaire, he's really
happy.
There's dad when he worked inLondon right, he's a billionaire
, he's really happy.
There's uncle steve he's amulti-millionaire, he's really
happy.
There's dad when he worked inlondon right, he's stressed and
frustrated, but he's a lothappier than he is now.
Well, for me it's obvious,money equals happiness.
So that was my first experienceof modeling other people,
connecting the dots and sayingwell, and just basically
creating an assumption and andgoing off on a trajectory, and
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that that was the very firstexperience that I had of setting
my mind to things.
And what I had heard growing upwas about my uncle, who's gone
on to do very, very well.
He literally started sellingt-shirts on Venice Beach and
then went on and on and on andon.
So he's got really quite anentrepreneurial story and that
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was one of my big inspirations.
So it very much was havingthose people around me as
inspiration that that took meoff on the tangent now fast
forward, sort of 12 plus yearslater.
Then I had my big realizationand realized it was nothing to
do with money, it was never todo with money, it was also my
dad, how my dad hadn't achievedcertain things he was capable of
and the impact that had on me,and that's kind of led me to
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doing the work that I do now.
But um have, having that rolemodel around me was, was, was
definitely something thatinfluenced me, for sure.
And in relation to your questionaround well, how else can
people um, how else can peoplesurround themselves with people?
One of the best things that youcan do is surround yourself
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with people.
If you haven't got people thatare in your immediate family, or
even people in your local area,then there's these wonderful
resources called books.
You know where you get to spend.
You can spend um some.
Some learn so much from someoneby reading their autobiography,
by listening to them on podcasts, watching them on youtube.
You can surround yourself withthese people and be influenced
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in in that respect.
To start to learn how theythink because that is exactly
what I've become obsessed withis not only do what people do in
terms of their actions, butwhat is it that's going on
between their ears?
That means they take theactions they do, that means they
make the decisions that they doand that, for me, has become
part of my lifelong quest oflearning from people that
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influence me, that I admire andtrust, and I look to learn the
process of thinking that theyhave, so that I can just apply
that little bit to me and I canadopt some of that way of
thinking that just enables me tobecome a better version of me,
and then obviously share thatwith my clients too.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I love that.
That's actually really, reallyinsightful.
So and and how did you do that?
Like I know for me sometimes,when I when I was thinking of,
like reading a book and you know, trying to look at someone who
is successful and taking thetraits that some people have,
what I see sometimes a lot ofpeople do is they will try to
copy someone who they deeplyadmire, but sometimes it's
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traits that they cannot identifyreally with.
They can't really relate to it,so it's almost like they try to
box them into trying tobecoming someone that they're
not.
But what I'm hearing from youis that you actually went with
the traits that felt good to you, the ones that made you feel
you, the ones that made you feelpowerful, the ones that made
you feel stronger, that you felt.
I can actually run with thisconcept.
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I can run with this type ofmindset.
I can run with this type ofapproach.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, I think, as
years have gone on, I've
understood it a little bit more,and there's a number of
universal laws, and one of theuniversal laws is the, the
universal law of reflection andtransparency.
So whatever we see in otherpeople, we see in ourselves,
right, so what?
What I'm I'm aware of now isthat if I'm looking at someone
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that I admire, so I don't know,I admire whoever the person
might be.
What?
What it actually is is there'scertain traits and
characteristics of that personthat I'm being too humble to
acknowledge in myself, that arein them.
So there's a process that wecan work through to realize that
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, but it acts as a reallypowerful awareness tool to look
at that person and go, wow, yeah, I'm, I'm.
And when you do this process andyou, you realize these things,
then what it does is it bringsyou up to an even playing field.
Now, it may be differentquantitatively and qualitatively
, but every, in every instanceI've ever done this.
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When people do it, profoundthings happen, because no longer
are they, because, but, but byum, by just the default.
If you're putting someone on apedestal, you're putting
yourself below them.
So for as long as you staybelow them, then you're going to
keep yourself in that space,whereas when you see yourselves
as equal and actually see someof their drawbacks because
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everybody's got drawbacks right,there's no one-sidedness we see
their drawbacks, we see their,their maybe negative traits that
we've been blind to in the pastbecause we've been infatuated
with them then we can bringourselves to an even, even
playing field and it's um, it'sa really humbling process to do.
Now.
What's also really interestingis the opposite works as well.
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So if there's someone that youdon't like and there's someone
that you're judging, then youcan do the same process, which
can also be equally powerful wow, wow, that was actually
powerful.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I never actually
thought about that, because now
I also understand why you saidthat.
You deeply, you know, felt thatmoment when Tony Roberts also
talked about, when he was, youknow, in his low moment, and
there was a part of you thatalmost like I think there was
something that you said therethat striked me quite um, it was
quite an emotional tone therefor me in the sense of relating
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deeply to that point in timewhere he was in that life.
What, what was it that was sosignificant for you?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
yeah, so.
So what I refer to as mylightning moment was I was at a
Tony Robbins event, upw 2013.
And he was when he was sharingthe Thanksgiving story.
And if you're not familiar withthe Tony Robbins Thanksgiving
story, go and check it out onYouTube.
You can watch the full video.
(15:04):
It's about 15 minutes long, butthe long the the short version
of it is that.
So this spoiler alert I'm goingto share it is that he?
Um one Thanksgiving he was athome, he was a child and a
stranger knocked at the doorwith a Thanksgiving dinner
because his dad couldn't affordto give them Thanksgiving dinner
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.
And when they opened the door,tony opened the door and he said
look, I've got someThanksgiving dinner for you here
.
Um, we understand that you, youhaven't got dinner and this is
from a stranger.
So he ran and grabbed his dadand his dad come to the door and
his dad tried to slam the doorin the the stranger's face, said
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we don't accept charity.
And then, from memory, whatthen happened was, um, his, his
dad left, and it must have beenfrom embarrassment or whatever
else he decided to leave andthen and that was a pivotal
moment in in Tony's life nowwhat I heard when that happened
was my dad, so that it was aform of metaphor for me, if you
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like, because what I heard wasmy dad always said they just got
lucky.
So that excuse that we don'taccept charity for my dad was
they just got lucky.
So my dad always said about myuncles but they just got lucky,
they just got lucky.
That was his excuse for notbeing able to have the life that
he would have maybe liked tohave had.
And it was in that moment, thatexact moment, that I was like
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wow, tony, that was part of thereason, one of the catalysts
that Tony's gone on to do whathe's done.
It was the origin story ofBasket Brigade, which has
literally fed millions of peoplearound the world.
And I remember thinking tomyself wow, if that moment was
so similar to my moment and Tonygoing and having the impact
that he's having on the worldbecause of that, then I could
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look at doing something similar.
So it was such a profoundexperience nine years ago,
whatever it was, and from thatmoment on, life has never been
the same.
It completely altered thetrajectory of my life.
That 15 minute story, havingthat moment on life has never
been the same.
It completely altered thetrajectory of my life.
That 15-minute story, havingthat moment, crying my eyes out
for about 15 minutes that thensent me off on that different
trajectory.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, because I
really felt that, even though it
was tight, I really felt thatemotion in that explanation that
you added there and I reallywanted to go a bit into that.
That's really powerful.
And so another part also herethat I wanted to talk to you
about you know also kind of likehow you were leading up to you
know how you related to Tony inthat way and you know the
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incident with dad.
So you progressed and youcontinued, you know, to study
other people and to follow yourpath, but at the age of 23, that
is when you actually identifiedyour ultimate goal in life and
that you wanted to help as manypeople as possible by getting
them to really unlock their fullpotential and how to help them
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to make it happen.
What was that moment like foryou?
Because so many of us have lostour feeling and connectedness
to what is our purpose, what isour ultimate goal, and almost
like I feel like we need tobacktrack a little bit and
connect back to our emotions,connect back to the mental
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awareness, mindfully live moremindfully to recognize wow, this
is it, and it's not just afleeting fantasy, but this can
actually become my reality.
What is it in that moment thatreally grabbed your attention
and made you realize this is itso it comes back to that word
that we started talking about,which was clarity.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So in that moment
I've only had two of them,
really that have been that thatpowerful was.
It was like the best way I candescribe it was, like, you know,
in movies, when the clouds partand the sun sort of beams down
on people.
It was it was like that onsteroids.
And it was this moment ofclarity where just every, every,
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it was almost like the dotsjoined up.
I could see perfectly clear,moving forward.
Everything was crystal clear,and I I call it inspired thought
, because that that inspiredthought released a rush of
energy that, like I said, I'veonly experienced that on a
handful of times in my wholelife.
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So that that was where I kind ofjust knew this, this is a, this
isn't just a normal fleetingidea, this is, it's, it's a
thought that's charged with somuch energy.
I just need to act on it.
And it was a right, a knowingthat's the only way I can
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describe.
It was a knowing, and and inover years, I've, I've, I've
become, I suppose, more skillfulat helping people create these
moments.
And it's when the, the, whenthe alignment comes in to play,
and people, via appropriatequestion.
I call it strategicintervention, which is just a
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couple of fancy words forquestions that get people
thinking in a particular way.
Then, all of a sudden, theyhave these realizations and the
unconscious becomes consciousand people can can move forward
and in that way, so yeah I lovethat because that ultimately, is
also about leading into howintelligent action leads to
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fulfillment.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Because when you have
this urge, when you have what I
would call like this push right, you felt that that jolt of
energy and this excitement likeyour body was bracing itself to
take action and you had thatclarity.
But then it also requires tohave, you know, clarity and
sense of the next steps, thegoals it is, that you're going
to take.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Within that, yeah,
absolutely is to have, you know,
clarity and sense of the nextsteps, the goals it is that
you're going to take.
Within that, yeah, absolutely.
So I I kind of use the termintelligent action because so
many people have become obsessedwith taking massive action.
You know, like let's takemassive action, let's just make
sure we take massive action.
But for me, you can take, youcan put loads of hard work and
you can take loads of action.
But if it's action that's goingin the wrong direction and what
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I mean wrong meaning is that thething that doesn't inspire you
most then it's going to feeldifficult and ultimately, it's
not going to get you closer towhere you ultimately want to be.
So for me, intelligent actionis action that's aligned with
your values and your goals.
If it's action that's alignedwith your values and your goals,
great, let's take it, let'smove forward.
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It's going to feel easier.
I'm not saying it's alwaysgoing to be easy, but it's going
to feel easier.
It'll feel like things willjust happen.
You know when you have thosemoments and you're like, wow,
how is that?
Like it just almost feels toogood to be true.
It's.
It's a moment of um.
Some people might call it acoincidence.
I don't believe in coincidence,I believe in synchronicity,
sort of everything's happening,but these, these moments that
just feel aligned and uh andyeah, that's that's really where
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the intelligent action piececomes in I love that and that
alignment also.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I mean, we've all
been there and we can probably
all relate to this that it's onething to feel alignment, but
it's also another step oranother process within to feel
worthy of accepting andreceiving and inviting that
alignment into our lives.
Because so many of us have feltthe desire or the need to take
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action, we feel clear, we haveclarity about what we need to do
and sometimes even the supports.
I've seen people where supportis thrown at them and they are
an absolute, like a deer inheadlights, like they freeze.
It's like they can't embody it,they can't take action on that,
and it's almost like sometimesmissed opportunities come in and
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I mean call it maybe divinetiming, maybe it wasn't the
right time, but maybe it couldalso be where there's a block in
terms of us finding ourself-worth to really step into
that.
Has that been something that'salso been a challenge for you,
to really just receive what yousee that's being just set out in
front of you?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
absolutely.
I think so.
When we talk aboutmanifestation, you know, if you
were to take the manifestationformula, if you like, there's
going to be having a vision,there's going to be knowing your
purpose, there's going to bewriting goals, doing
affirmations, you're going to befeeling grateful, you're going
to have all these differentthings, but the final hurdle
that most people fall down on isdeserve level.
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So they can, they can have thevision, they can do the
affirmations, they can writegoals, they can be taking action
, they can do the affirmations,they can write goals, they can
be taking action, they can befeeling grateful, they can be
doing all of these things, butif they don't feel worthy and
deserving they're, then theywill fall down on that hurdle
and that that, for me, in moreinstances than not, comes down
to guilt and shame.
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So it's, it's people having deepfeelings of um guilt, which my
perception of.
Guilt, is when you perceivethat you're causing more
negative than positive tosomeone else, and shame is when
you perceive that you're causingmore negative than positive to
yourself.
And what what's?
What's quite interesting isthat chronic lack of deserve
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level generally, generally, willmanifest itself long term in in
lack of finances, because it'sthe easiest thing, where people
have it, and even if they getlots of money, if they don't
feel deserving of it, they giveit all away yeah they give it
all away, they spend it all.
They find themselves insituations where it's gone.
So a indication of deservelevel will be people's financial
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situation.
They're chronic, so over a longperiod of time, not necessarily
in a moment in time, but yeah,that's a, an indication and um,
it's, it's extremely powerfulwhen you start working on
deserving.
I've got a number ofaffirmations I read out to
myself daily.
One of those is I'm worthy oflove, yeah, yeah it's.
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One of those is I'm worthy anddeserving of love, money and
success because the, the, thethat deserve every day.
Affirming that to myself overand over and over again is one
of the ways that helps me moveforward and be able to work
towards improving that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
That's powerful.
I love that.
I love powerful affirmations.
It's something that's also apart of my life and I find also
sometimes the affirmationschanges based on my business and
, you know, depending on whereI'm at in my career and also my
personal life, but there'salways a fundamental core values
and positive affirmations thatI also keep coming back to, and
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so much of it has to do withself-worth, because sometimes
what we also do is and and I'msure many people here who's
watching can also relate that wecompare ourselves to other
people, we see someone else'ssuccess and you know your dad
also stepped into that trap alittle bit, where you know he
would compare himself maybe noto to your uncles and thinking,
you know, that's just luck, butsaying that because maybe he
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didn't feel worthy or deservingof achieving or aspiring to that
and then sometimes we just justself-sabotage that with
negative thinking.
And it's quite interestingbecause, you know, when you
talked about your dad like that,I really saw my dad in the
exact same pattern.
You know he just did not havethe capacity to be happy for
someone else, anyone who wasremotely successful.
He would break that person downand of course it was, you know,
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just his reflection of himfeeling absolutely awkward and
inadequate, of, you know, seeingsomeone being in such a state
of success and that person'sstate and energy almost pulls
you into that potential.
But if you can't receive thatpotential, of course it's going
to make you feel awkward andinadequate.
And the first thing that we dowhen we are in that state is to
attack and to sabotage and tofeel feelings of unworthiness.
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And then we, subconsciously, wereject it or we push it away or
we we ruin it.
We ruin the opportunities thatwe have with that.
And this is something where Iactually found myself as I was
maturing and growing into mycareer as well, as you know,
trying to relate to these peoplearound me.
That was successful, and what Iwanted to ask you also here is
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what are reasons in that case?
You know why people might notbe taking action.
You know that they know theywant to be, or that they should
be taking.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
So that's really
interesting.
I'm going to pick up the wordshould there, but before I do I
want to take one step back.
You mentioned luck, again Right, and this for me kind of comes
back to that that deserve levelpiece again.
Because if, if people say, well, they just got lucky, they,
what they're doing is thatthey're making an assumption is
something that's outside ofthemselves.
Now, I've said for years Idon't believe in luck Right.
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Luck for me is when preparationmeets opportunity.
Luck, right.
Luck for me is when preparationmeets opportunity.
But what?
I read a book earlier this yearby Gay Hendricks, one of his new
books, called Conscious Luck,and it's a phenomenal book, but
again, I'm going to spoil thesort of the underpinning it for
a lot of people.
Go and check it out.
Yeah, yeah, he's come andspoken at our events and see
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we've done a podcast and you'rea wonderful, wonderful man and
incredibly wise.
And one of the things that thethe basic, the thing that I took
from it is it's not whether youbelieve in luck or not, it's
whether you believe that you'relucky, because if you believe
that you're lucky, which in myopinion, is a form of increasing
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your deserve level, that's whyI wanted to bring this up is
because if you believe, or I'mlucky, what you're really saying
to the universe is good stuffcan happen to me.
Yeah, and it's.
It's that belief.
In my opinion, that is thecomponent.
The important component is abit like our reticular
activating system.
Our reticular accessing systemis the part of our brain that
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enables us to focus.
It's look constantly on thelookout for opportunities.
And if we believe that we'relucky and we believe in luck,
then all of a sudden theseopportunities can happen.
We open ourselves up to these.
Now, like I say, I I don'tbelieve in luck per se, but I
believe in the concept of beingopen to opportunities and being
worthy to receiving, because I'malso a huge believer as I know
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you are, yvette of putting greatstuff out, the law of
reciprocity, just constantly,every day, pouring out, knowing
in some way somehow it's goingto come back tenfold in the long
run.
And that if, if I can focusevery day on doing the right
thing not always the easy thing,but the right thing in the
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moment then it's going to comeback eventually and that's the
beauty of of these, thesesituations.
But sorry, I I sort of deviatedslightly from from your
question, so you'll have toremind me um no, no, this is
where you're actually going isperfect.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
We can get back to
what I was actually wanted to
ask, because, um, I love whereyou were actually moving towards
with this, because you saidthat this will come back to you.
Now this also brings up anothergreat topic.
We will come full circle again.
Guys, hang in with us.
This is one minute, becausethis is actually really great.
Where it's going to it's trust.
Oh my god.
Now you know trust is reallyhard, especially after
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everything that we've been goingthrough and having to trust our
intuition and having to trustso many things, after so many
conflicting things have beentaking place in our environment.
What did you do to reallystrengthen that sense of trust
in your core so that you canfeel confident with what you're
doing?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
what?
What an incredible question.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You're so good like I
want to.
I want to dissect you.
I want to.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
We need to clone you
so there's one key, fundamental,
that if people embody this onebelief, it's like a core belief
that I believe that there's acore belief, that I believe that
there's certain core beliefsthat I believe that people are
wise to have, and this is one ofthem Life happens for you, not
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to you.
Because if you can have 100%faith that in any given moment,
no matter how it feels, life ishappening for you, not to you,
then it's a beautiful world.
And in that moment, if you havethat as an underpinning core
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belief, global belief, anoverarching belief of everything
else that you do, then in anygiven moment, you can then say
well, well, what's the lesson orthe blessing here?
And then, in any given moment,in anything in life, there is a
lesson or a blessing, no matterwhat's going on.
So that, that, for me, is oneof the keys is adopting that
belief.
Now, for years I didn't havethat belief, and it was when I
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made that shift.
All of a sudden, it was likethings just clicked and I could
be more at peace and I could beat more at harmony, whereas
before I resisted.
So what it what it actually didis it made the transition,
because we talk about all thetime you've got an option to
choose fear or to choose faith,and if you have that as an
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overarching belief is that lifehappens for you, not to you,
then it makes it so much easierto choose faith and then you can
move with that and you can rollwith that.
So, um, yeah, that's, that'sone of the uh, one of the keys,
um, that makes, makes that whole, that whole way of thinking so
much easier.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
It's such a powerful
statement that you made when you
said you know that life is nothappening to you, it's happening
for you.
Because even just when, themoment you said that and I
repeated that silently to myselfI could actually feel my body
just going into the flow of myimmediate environment.
And I'm like because I havebeen a bit stressed with things
that's going on lately, but it'sgood stress.
You know, sometimes we havelike really negative stress
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because you you dread whatyou're doing, but then you have
stress because you're just soexcited, you're so passionate
and sometimes it weighs you alittle bit down at the same time
because of, you know, timemanagement which is one other
thing which I'm going to beasking you about soon, because I
know you're really good withthat is that you know you start
to resist even the good thingsbecause you're so stressed.
But the moment you said thatlife is happening for you, and
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that feeling of flow just easedthrough me and I'm like, okay,
so life is happening for me.
Where's the opportunity in howlife is happening for me right
now?
And I kind of just and I didthis just right now're here,
live on the spot as we weredoing it because, just based on
everything that you're sayingand I'm starting to slowly put
it together I feel like I'm astudent right now.
It's great and I love that.
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I love that.
Just those two simplestatements, it's just to really
bring out the positive in whatis happening right now.
What is the opportunity?
Because if you're constantlygoing to be seeing a problem but
you said with the RAS, andthat's what I teach myself as
well, so we're so in alignmentwith that I fully agree If all
that you see is a problem, thenthat is exactly what you're
going to be filtering in more of.
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So it's about instead oflooking at what's going wrong
all the time, let's look at whatis going right.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Shift your focus to
that immediately first and get
into a positive state first,even if there's one thing that
you can mention perfect, atleast.
Now you're at a much betterplace in space than what you
were one second ago, and that'sa great place to slowly start to
move forward absolutely the.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
The chinese have two
brush strokes for the word
crisis.
One means danger and the othermeans opportunity.
And what when we?
When we take that perspectiveand we go right, well, let's
look for the opportunity ratherthan look at the danger.
Let's look at the opportunitythat that's presented to us.
And coming back, this kind ofcomes back to gratitude, right.
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So, in in any given moment, nomatter what's going on, we will
have things to be grateful for.
People go well, there's nothingI can be grateful for.
My world is terrible right now.
Well, we can always come backto basics.
So I have five areas that Iencourage people to look into
each day.
So literally my little blackjournal here.
Most days I write out a minimumof 10 things I'm grateful for
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when I start my day.
I write out a minimum of 10things I'm grateful for when I
start my day because what itdoes is it gets me to focus on
the positive and start lookingfor the positive in the negative
and the highlights and thelowlights in any given moment.
But the real key here isfinding the blessings in the
things that we don't think havegone as well, because when we
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can shift that and we can getreally good at finding the
positives in the negatives, notjust going well.
I'm grateful becauseeverything's amazing in my life,
because when that is happeningthat's wonderful.
But we also find ourselves insituations where more often than
not, maybe everything isn'tperfect, so we then have to be
able to look for that.
So I get, I encourage people tolook in, um, who are the people
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in their life?
What are the experiencesthey've had, what are the
belongings they've got, what aretheir expectations and what are
their privileges?
Because we've all hadsituations where the, the simple
thing that we we thought wouldhappen, doesn't happen.
It becomes a real inconvenience, like, for example, you, you
get home to realize that youleft the keys indoors so you're
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locked out.
Or you, um, the toilet doesn'tflush.
Or the you you go to turn thelights on and the electricity's
gone, whatever it is.
But there's so many things thatare happening in our life every
day that we're taking forgranted and when we can get
really grateful for all of thosesmall, tiny things that are
going well, like today, I'mgrateful for that.
I opened up my laptop and theinternet just worked.
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You know, this would have madethis whole situation so much
more difficult if it hadn't, itwould have been so much more
difficult.
If I don't know, my um, the,the, the, the electricity wasn't
working, the building orwhatever it would have been.
So we can start to to getgrateful for those things and we
can operate from that place.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
So, yeah, powerful I
love that, that that's that I'm
going to be adding that flashcard here in this interview,
because that was absolutelywonderful.
So I really want people to takethat away, because that is the
fundamental part where youalways will find something in,
absolutely without fail.
That's very powerful.
Thank you for sharing that.
So, just to bring the last partthat we will bring full circle,
(36:59):
where I asked you a few reasonswhy we're not taking the action
that we know that we should betaking, because, ultimately,
even though we do get stuck withyou know, seeing life in a
certain way, and then we changeour perspective of okay, well,
life is now not happening to me,it's happening for me and we,
and we feel like we're doingeverything, right, right, but
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they're still in that momentwhere we should have done
something.
We, maybe, we, we, we need totake an action.
Then we know we should be doingit, but we're not like what?
What would you?
What advice can you give there?
Because I get stuck in this allthe time.
Like this is me yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
So there's, there's
two, two things, and I'm going
to go a bit deeper on this andgo go granular on it.
So, in my over simplistic mind,the reason that people don't
take action is because of one ortwo things.
It's lack of clarity or lack ofaccountability.
Right, and it's most simpleform.
It's one of those two reasons,but then we can break that down
(37:59):
a layer deeper.
So, when people use languagelanguage for me as a coach, when
I'm listening to my clients,I'm listening to their body
language, the words they'resaying, the tonality, everything
.
But there's, there's a few keyindicators and one of them, like
I say, is that the languagethey're using, when you're using
the word should, that's anindication.
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Or anyone's using the wordshould, it's an indication that
you may not be living to yourvalues.
So using language like I haveto, I ought to, I should, I need
to is an indication that youmay be living to somebody else's
values.
And when I say somebody else'svalues, that could be parents,
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society, old school teachers,friends, you name it, so that
that's something that I test.
So when people say to me, well,I should be doing this, then
the question I will ask them isaccording to who, and it stumps
them.
A lot of the time.
They go well, according to myfriends.
Everybody says that I should bedoing it All right.
(39:04):
Ok, so that's what they think.
But what do you think you oughtto be doing?
Well, what I would really wantto be doing is X, y and Z, and
it's quite often it's somethingdifferent.
So when, when people are livingsomeone else's values, they'll
be using language like I have to, I should, I ought to, I need
to, and they'll constantlyrequire external motivation.
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When we're living our own valuesand this is why I talk about
intelligent action, what'sactions aligned with your values
and your goals then you'll uselanguage like I love to, I
choose to, I desire to, andthere's a different energy that
comes with that.
Now, when you're living yourvalues, you don't require
motivation because you're ininspiration.
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So motivation is external,coming in.
Inspiration is internal, comingout.
Now let's take the wordinspiration, inspiration in
spirit.
What's another word for spirit?
Energy.
So we're in energy when we feelmost energized.
So all of a sudden, the actiontaking becomes easy and
effortless.
Now, there's a few ways of doingthat, and one of the ways of
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doing that is when we're clearon our values.
So I break values down into twodifferent ways.
I talk about end values, whichare you've got end away values
things we're moving.
I talk about end values, whichare end away values, things
we're moving away from and endtowards values, things we're
moving towards.
And then I talk about meansvalues.
So these are things that weactually do that give us energy
and when we see, come back toclarity, when we can see that
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the action that we're taking isgoing to get us closer to the
thing that we desire most.
So I talk a lot about having anorth star.
I'm a big believer in having agoal that's so big that you
never achieve it within yourlifetime and that that in itself
, when you're connected withthat, when you're truly
connected with that, that provthat it's like a renewable
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energy source.
You can keep striving towardsum and the the.
What you can do in thatinstance is that you can.
You can link how the action umwill serve you long term and you
can do what I call a benefitstack.
So we keep stacking it up, westack up, we find all of the
benefits to that particularaction.
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So then we're drawn into doingit rather than having resistance
to it.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
That's fantastic.
And you know, with all thesethings that you do and that you
want to achieve and all theseamazing things that you have
done yourself, because you,basically, you practice what you
preach and you, how do you justdo everything?
I don't even know how to askthe question.
There's so much that you dothat we all get overwhelmed when
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we want to set our mind to agoal.
We have the clarity Now, ourvalues are starting to get in
alignment, we feel good about itand we start to slowly move
towards taking action, to startto create what it is that we
want.
Taking action, you know, tostart to create what it is that
we want.
But time is always, always aproblem.
(42:13):
I kid you not last week I wouldbe walking into my house and
even sometimes the neighbor'slike hi, man, how you doing?
And I'm like I don't have time,like I didn't even listen to
the fact that they just said hi,all that I'm hearing is someone
is going to take time away fromme and I don't have it and it's
just like what?
What advice can you give us,especially probably for me.
I'm a bigger, big but selfishhere.
But you know how do you manageyour time, because one thing
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that striked me is that youactually said wasn't?
I heard you say that is thattime management does not exist.
So how, how?
Now you really have to explainto me like yeah for sure, yeah,
so, so.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
So I so, in answer to
your question, um, of course,
many of the people that I'vestudied over the years, one of
the people that I come acrosswas a guy called eric potterat.
Now, eric potter Potter was apsychologist that specialized in
working with Navy SEALs andNavy SEALs are one of the sort
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of elite special forces on theplanet and there was four things
that he identified that theseNavy SEALs did that were
successful in getting throughHell Week was successful in
getting through Hell Week.
So if you're not familiar withHell Week, it's a process that
sort of aspiring Navy SEALs haveto go through to be able to be
sort of qualified, if you like,as Navy SEALs, and it's a very,
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very rigorous process.
But he found those fourqualities that they had.
One of them was what he calledclosed focused goal setting.
So you can imagine you're aNavy SEAL, you've got a mission.
Now that mission could be goingon for hours, days, weeks,
whatever it might be, but one ofthe qualities that he found was
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that they had the ability toeffectively put the blinkers on
and focus on the very next taskat hand.
So one of the things that I'vebecome quite good at using the
process that I use with clarityis I get people to get clear on
their North Star.
Then we reverse, engineer theprocess 10-year, 5-year, 3-year,
1-year, 90-day, 30-day, monthlygoals, weekly goals, what are
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we doing today?
And I use a process linkingwhat I call a default diary and
a must-do list that gives usreally clear, focused direction
on what has to happen.
So we we as human beings have alimited amount of bandwidth, as
I call it, a little bit likeyour ram on your computer when
you've got lots of apps open andtabs open.
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I'm either like 30 tabs open onmy chrome browser.
Uh, it uses a lot of of memoryon your computer and we do the
same in our brain.
So one of the things I'm hugeon is getting people to get out
of their head and writeeverything down, and there's a
structured process that I usewith people to get them really,
really clear to make sure theydo what they do.
(44:59):
Now to come back to the pointthat you made about time
management, I don't believe intime management.
Time management is fast.
We cannot manage time.
Every single one of us have thesame amount of minutes in an
hour, hours in a day, days in aweek and so on.
So what what it's really aboutis priority management.
So what we have to becomereally good at is priority
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management.
Well, how can we become good atpriority management?
We have to then know what ourhighest priorities are.
If we know what our highestpriorities are, then we can look
at identifying effectively andwe and make decisions like what
is it that I really need to doand what is that I need to
delegate?
One of my mantras that I get myclients tattooed into their
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brain is it needs to be done,but I don't need to do it and
we're all guilty.
We're all guilty of well, Ineed to do it, I can do it
better.
I can do it better.
Well, the problem is when you,when you try to be good at
everything, it means that youcan't be excellent at certain
things.
So it's a case well, who can Iget to do this that's better
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than me, and mean that I can dothe things that I'm excellent at
, and do the things that Iabsolutely love doing, and other
people can take on those tasksthat they love doing for me?
Speaker 2 (46:17):
that's so true.
And you know one thing that yousaid there that I'm sure people
, and especially me, was also aproblem, and I know you probably
had this as well it's controlissues.
You know, delegating now I'mgreat at delegating, I'm really
really great at it, and Istarted.
I had to learn the past week toreally learn to delegate and
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just let go.
You know it was my controlissues, but did you also find
yourself in that position whereyou knew you had to delegate and
it was a?
There was a part of it, justlike you know you just can't get
the project over like yeah and,and there's two, there's two,
two parts for this.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
So, first of all,
what I've realized now from of
years of messing it up is thatit's not just about delegating,
it's about delegating.
What the hell is delegating?
Delegating to great people?
The difference betweendelegating to a great person, a
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person that's got the skills,got the ability, got the drive
to do it, the difference thatwill make to your life, because
a lot of people go, yeah, butI've delegated before and it was
more hassle and it was worth.
They wasn't as good as me,there wasn't this.
Well, if we come back to taking100 responsibility, so in any
given moment, if we choose totake 100 responsibility, what's
my part to play here?
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Did I not choose the rightperson?
Did I not choose the personwith the right experience?
Did I choose the person withthe right experience but they
didn't have the right attitude?
Did I um?
Have I not committed totraining them to the effective
standard?
Have I not communicated how Ireally want things done?
Happiness is equal to or greaterthan our expectations.
If our expected, if ourexpectations are met, we're
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happy.
If our expectations are not met, then we're unhappy.
Or how clearly have Icommunicated the expectations of
the outcomes that I want andthe competencies of the person,
um, and some.
When we come back and we askourselves those questions, oh
actually, yeah, no, I did tellthem what I wanted, but I I'm
moaning because they didn't getto me on.
They didn't get it to me onThursday afternoon, but did I
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tell them I wanted them onThursday afternoon, or did I
just assume that they're a mindreader?
And when we start asking thosequestions of ourselves once
we've done that quite a fewtimes, then we know in the
future what we need tocommunicate to get the outcome
that we want.
So it's, um, it is definitelysomething that can make a huge
difference.
And also, the other thing is aswell is that a lot of people
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they look at things um, binary,so they go right, well, there's
me doing it all or someone elsedoing it all.
They forget that there's aspectrum.
You know, like when you used tohave a the, the sliders in your
car that went from hot to cold.
You know you don't really havethem anymore, but it's well
yeah, once upon a time.
(49:01):
Uh, but you, you imagine thatsliding scowl, what it's a
little bit like if, if you, ifyou were training a dog to to be
a flea.
You, you take the dog out for awalk, first of all when it's a
little puppy and it's going tobe on the lead, and then
eventually you might get to asafe space where you let the dog
off for a little bit and thenyou bring it back, you put it on
the lead and then you let itoff the lead a little bit longer
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and you might be going for oneday and you decide to give it a
slightly longer lead and alonger lead and longer lead.
You go actually.
Well, no, I'm willing to takethe dog off the lead for a
little bit longer.
So it's that process oftraining that person and not
having the expectation that it'sgoing to go from you doing it
exactly how you want to do it tothem taking over and doing it
perfectly, because again, thenwe're creating a fantasy for
ourselves where we're likely tofeel let down if that that
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doesn't happen absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
It's not just about
taking it and then just going
boom and then expecting thingsto just magically happen.
You also have to be a bitinvolved in terms of how you
would like it to happen.
You know, not assuming peoplecan read your mind, because most
of the time people cannot.
You know, we think that we mindreaders by thinking if someone
acts or reacts a certain way,then we think, oh, they must be
thinking this or that, and 99%of the time we're actually wrong
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.
But we kind of like base thewhole reality on that assumption
.
And you know, this is exactlyalso where we make an assumption
, assuming that people mightknow certain things, and then we
end up setting ourselves fordisappointment.
It's almost like a subconscious, self-fulfilling prophecy if we
don't invest in that as well.
Delegating is not just aone-way street, but there's a
certain steps, as you said, thatalso needs to be taken when you
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do delegate.
So it's delegating withdiscernment absolutely, yeah,
absolutely well, this wasamazing golden nugget moments,
absolutely golden nugget moments, absolutely golden nugget
moments.
And just for anyone that'smaybe stuck right now in their
life, where the borders are open, you know, life is kind of like
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coming back to a certain degreeof normality and they're just
sitting there and they're like,oh my God, now, what, now what?
What message do you have forthem, just to kind of like shake
them a little bit out of theirout of their state of stuckness?
Speaker 3 (51:09):
yeah, absolutely so.
I think the the key, the keything, is that it comes back to
that comment before that life'slife is happening for us, not to
us in any given moment and whenwe find ourself in a position
when we're unsure, having faith,that light, that um, it's
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darkest just before dawn, sosomething just around the corner
is about to happen.
But we have the ability tocreate in any given moment when
we get clear.
So, in my experience we spokeabout clarity right at the
beginning it's that that we'retalking about it at the end is
that we can create clarity forourselves by identifying what
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that future looks like.
People typically will feelinspired and want to take action
when they have a clear visionfor themselves and what their
future could look like.
And people say to me well, howdo I possibly know what my
vision would look like?
Well, by starting with whatwould you absolutely love to do?
In fact, there's a process thatI love I'm a huge fan of that
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helps people identify what theirvision might look like, which
is the concept of the Ikigai.
Now, for people that aren'tfamiliar with it, it's a
Japanese concept we don't have adirect translation for it in
English, but it means reason forbeing.
And what's fascinating aboutthe Ikigai is that it originated
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from a little island just offof Okinawa in Japan and there's
more centurionsions, so morepeople that lived over 100 years
old in this particular regionthan anywhere else in the world.
Because they live by this, thisikigai concept, and the way
that you identify what that isfor you is.
(52:57):
It's like a venn diagram, right?
So four circles that meet inthe middle to create the ikigai
in the middle is what do youlove?
So an exercise for people to dois what do you love?
Identify all the things thatyou love doing.
What are you really good at?
What are your strengths?
And you, you write those down.
People go well, I haven't gotany strengths.
Well, there's um over 12 000words in the english language
that describe a strength.
Trust me, you've got plenty ofstrengths.
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Then, identifying what what doesthe world need?
What do you feel that there isa problem that you could solve
and you could help fix?
And then, what could you bepaid for?
And when we look at that sweetspot, forget about how you're
going to make money, how it'sgoing to happen.
We start to look at that and westart creating our dream life.
(53:40):
What would our dream, whatwould our ideal day look like?
If you were to grab a journal,write down.
If I was to close my sorry, ifI was to open my eyes and wake
up in the morning, where would Ibe?
What would I be doing?
Who would I be hanging out with?
What would I be havingbreakfast?
What would be the thing I'd begoing and doing in the morning?
What would my partner be like?
How would we be acting?
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What sort we'd be acting?
What sort of social things we'dbe getting up to?
And we just start to have fun.
You know, when you're a kid andyou just play make-believe,
just have fun, go absolutelycrazy with this process, no
limitations.
If money was no object, if timewas no object, you could do
whatever you want, and what willstart to happen is you get
little green shoots ofinspiration when you do this
exercise.
What I recommend people do isthey get a bit of music that
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they absolutely love, one oftheir favorite bits of music.
Put it on repeat for three orfour times and just spend 15
minutes.
Don't get get a pen and paperand don't take the pen off the
page writing about all thesedifferent things.
What would the dream life belike.
And that will start thisprocess of enabling them to feel
energized.
So, uh, yeah, hopefully thathelps I love that.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
I'm actually gonna do
that, that that you really
inspired me.
Now, like you know, as you talkabout it and I'm thinking, I'm
visualizing, like I can actuallyfeel, you know, myself getting
into that moment and justgetting into the, to the flow of
it and like it almost likehelps you to feel like I love
that statement.
You feel the feeling of thewish fulfilled because it's like
you know you're sharing suchpowerful steps in easy steps to
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to create that and then tocreate what it is that you want
from that beautiful well, thankyou so much.
What an absolute pleasure tohave you here today.
And you also have a wonderfulcontribution here for the summit
.
And that's free 30-daymembership to the evolve network
.
I'm so excited.
Can you tell us just brieflywhat can people find in there?
(55:27):
And that's free 30-daymembership to the Evolve Network
.
I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
Can you tell us just
briefly what can people find in
there?
Yeah, absolutely so.
The Evolve Network is ourmembership.
We've got members from all overthe world that want to be part
of a community ofpositive-driven, light-minded
group of ambitious people thatthat are striving forward in
their life, that have got a keeninterest in personal
development.
We run coaching sessions withme.
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I run events where we haveworld-class experts that come
and deliver phenomenal workshops.
Every month we have two guestspeakers at our our event.
We've had, I mean, gay hendrixyou mentioned.
We've had marissa peer, we'vehad yourself.
We've had dr john d martini.
We've had some Hendricks youmentioned.
We've had Marisa Peer, we'vehad yourself.
We've had Dr John Demartini.
We've had some phenomenal,phenomenal guests that come and
speak at our events.
There's modules of lots ofdifferent training stuff that
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we've spoken about today, likehow to create your North Star,
how to cultivate an attitude ofgratitude.
There's a whole Master yourTime module of what you can do
to master your time, so all ofthat content's in there.
We hold time module of what youcan do to master time, so all
of that content's in there.
Um, we hold people accountable.
It's just a wonderful communityto connect with like-minded
people and uh, yeah, there's a,there's a gift for people to
come experience it for 30 days,experience it for themselves,
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and um, yeah, we'd love to havethem part of it what a gift.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Thank you so much.
That's so generous.
Thank you so so much.
Well, thank you for your love,your time and your energy and
everything that you do andcontribute also to the world.
You're an absolute light worker.
Like I said, we need to cloneyou.
We need more wheels runningaround, ambassadors of you
everywhere that can move andshake, because you're absolutely
a mover and a shaker and justkeep being you.
(57:01):
And thank you for thisbeautiful, positive influence
that you are in the world andinto people's lives as well,
because it's it's so needed, soneeded thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (57:11):
Thank you very much.
It's been a been an honor tohave you um part of the um.
It's been an honor to have youpart of the uh, to be able to be
part of this and, uh, yeah,I'll look forward to speaking
with you very soon and I hopeeverybody's enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yes, so thank you so
much, everyone for being here,
and another big thank you toWill and guys.
Until next time, be the lifethat you are.