April 18, 2024 • 41 mins
Ever wonder how tapping into your intuition can revolutionize your health? This is exactly what my guest, Mary Jonaitis, an artist and medical intuitive, achieves through her profound connection with the spiritual entity Michael. Join us as Mary shares her incredible transition from a traditional Catholic upbringing to a life embracing Eastern philosophies and holistic healing approaches. Our conversation illuminates the powerful possibilities that lie within the spiritual realms, showing how a reconnection to pure consciousness can guide us toward true well-being. Mary's unique consultation method, involving energetic scans and customized natural remedies, demonstrates the untapped potential in harmonizing the spiritual with the physical.
The words we speak and the cultures we immerse ourselves in shape not just our thoughts, but also our capacity for self-healing. In this episode, dive into the transformative power of embodiment and discover how pranayama and breathwork can deepen our connection with our heart and Mother Earth. As I share my personal experience overcoming back pain through energetic cleansing, we traverse the principles of Ayurveda and the importance of daily soul care—akin to physical training for the inner self. The takeaway is a profound recognition of how practices steeped in ancient wisdom can cultivate a sense of balance and harmony within our modern, compartmentalized lives.
We wrap up with a look at the mind-body connection and the ancient practices that help us attune to it, exploring how teachings from various traditions can lead us to a more harmonious state. Delving into the concept of raising one's energy frequency, I discuss how embracing simple, yet profound practices, like the Taoist meditation of 'smiling on the organs,' can transform our relationship with our bodies. This episode is not just a conversation but a journey into the essence of holistic health, inviting you to replace negative self-talk with gratitude and kindness. Tune in for a dose of inspiration that just might redirect your intentions towards a vibrant path to overall health and vitality.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where
we gather to explore the art andscience of holistic healing,
uncovering the secrets to ahappier, healthier you.
I'm your host, nina Ganguly,and together we will delve into
the intriguing world of holistichealing, delving into the
mind-body connection, ancientwisdom and natural remedies.
(00:24):
Get ready for enlighteningstories, thought-provoking
expert interviews and practicaltips that will empower you to
unlock your true potential andembrace a vibrant, balanced life
.
Whether you're an experiencedwellness enthusiast or simply
curious about the power ofhealing, join us on this
exhilarating journey, as weshare the wisdom and insights
(00:47):
that can truly transform yourlife.
It's time to embark on a voyagetowards a happier, healthier
you.
So, without further ado, let'sdive into the captivating world
of Healers Talk Healing.
Welcome to this episode ofHealers Talk Healing, where
we're joined by Mary Janitis, anextraordinary artist and
(01:08):
medical intuitive who has spentover four decades honing her
ability to channel thebenevolent.
Being known as Michael, mary'sjourney into the spiritual and
healing arts began with afascination for Eastern
philosophies and medicalpractices.
Began with a fascination forEastern philosophies and medical
practices, including Qui-Gon,tai Chi, chow, shiatsu and the
(01:30):
Meridian System.
Her ongoing study andconnection with the entity
Michael have allowed her toaccess profound insights into
the spiritual dimensions ofhealth, providing answers and
guidance to those seeking helpwith their health issues.
In today's episode, we'll delvedeep into Mary's unique
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consultation process, which goesbeyond the typical medical
advice.
Through her exceptionalchanneling skills, mary, with
the assistance of Michael,performs energetic scans of the
body to identify where energy isblocked or flowing, pinpointing
the emotional, mental andspiritual imbalances that
manifest as physical ailments.
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Each consultation is tailoredto the individual, ensuring that
the advice on herbal remedies,nutritional supplements and
other natural treatments areuniquely suited to each person's
needs.
Join us as Mary shows how shetransforms these insights into
practical healing strategies,offering both immediate relief
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and long-term health solutionsToday.
I am so excited to have MaryJanitis with us here today.
You know, mary, I was doing alittle bit of reading up before
we, you know, started recording,and I am so intrigued by what
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you do.
So this is going to be anamazing conversation.
But I always ask the startingquestion, which is what is your
definition of healing?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Could be a lot of things.
Thank you, nina, it's great tobe with you.
I'm excited.
I'm super excited just to haveheard that your podcast is
called from victim to victory,because to me that's a good
example of healing right there,and I guess my idea of healing
would be to reconnect to pureconsciousness through going
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deeply into yourself, soreconnecting to your own truth
in every way, whether it's aphysical way or an emotional way
, psychological, spiritual and,through that, coming into
connection to divine mystery,pure consciousness, god creator,
however it is for you, yeah, tome that's full healing.
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It's a restoring of what I'dcall the true order of things.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I like what you said, the restoring the true order of
things.
I think that happens to be, Ithink, the search for everyone
what is the true order of thingsfor yourself, for your?
You know, people are alwayslike why am I here, what's my
purpose?
(04:25):
And then we have this journeyto kind of unravel that, I guess
, and it is well.
In my experience it's been ajourney of healing.
Like things happen then you tryand work through them and find
different ways to do it, and I'mfascinated, like I said before,
about the work that you do.
And I'm fascinated, like I saidbefore, about the work that you
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do.
I've recently come across themedical medium and some of his
work and so you know I thinkit's fascinating because there's
information there that's notout there in the average medical
world and the connection tosource and the connection to
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consciousness and how thatimpacts how our bodies work.
I'm just, it's so fascinating.
I'd love to hear from you a bitof your journey and how you got
to where you are today, butalso really about how this all
works and how how it can help tocreate a better connection with
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self.
Okay, yeah, that was a bigmouthful right, it's a lot.
This is what my brain does.
It's like this and this, andthis and this, and so why don't
we just start with where?
How did this all start for you?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh my gosh.
Well, okay, so I'm my nextbirthday, I'll be 70.
And, uh, don't look at at all.
Well, so far, so good.
Um, but I started when I was 23.
(06:06):
And and before that, mybackground is in terms of
culture.
I was raised in a in a workingclass factory family in
Wisconsin, on the lake betweenChicago and Milwaukee.
Very humble beginnings mymother did house cleaning, my
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father worked in a foundry and Iwas raised as a Catholic.
My parents were very wonderfulpeople, older people believed
very strongly in a very clearethic and moral approach to life
.
With very loving hearts, theyreally lived what they preached.
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In other words, and that was mybackground, only child born to
older parents, and my firstmemory that I really hold that's
very strong is walking down thedriveway and looking out at all
the little manicured lawns andall the little you know brick
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bungalows.
They were tiny but well-kept,but everything was sort of
separate and it was.
I just looked at it all andthought this is a weird way for
people to live.
It all looks so separate to me.
So, when I look back I think,well, I was, I had a.
I had other lives bleeding intomy awareness as a, as a young
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child, like, I think, a lot ofchildren do.
So I had the point of view fromvery early on that was
different than what I was beingraised in, let's put it that way
.
So once I started to be able toread, I started reading
everything I could about worldreligions.
And you know, I was in fifthand sixth grade and I'm reading
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about world religions because itinterested me.
So that's the background.
And then some psychicexperiences as a teenager made
me understand there's, there'sthis whole other world that most
of us aren't taught about, butit's there.
We just don't see it, ornecessarily sometimes some
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people see it, some people hearit, but I felt it.
And then it's a long story.
I'm not going to go into thewhole thing, but I found myself,
after going through college, asan artist and learning also to
be an educator.
I found myself in this wholeother place of being asked
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because of things that justhappened and came through, being
asked to um by a friend who hadbecome an acupuncturist to make
myself available basically asnot just a medical intuitive but
as someone who could helppeople, as he said, there are a
lot of.
I have a number of patients andtheir situation of uh, you know
(09:04):
, the healing situation, ortheir issues that were in the
way of healing, actually aren'tphysical, they're actually more
spiritual or something to dowith a relationship or something
from the past.
And I said, oh, I, you know, Idon't think I could do that.
And he said, oh yes, you could.
I've.
You know, I've experienced whatyou do inadvertently, what you
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know, in a meditative state,when people ask, and he said, so
I'm going to set it up, I'mgoing to help you set up a
business, I'm going to help youset up structure, and you know
you schedule people, you knowthat sort of thing.
So he was a big brother to meand that's how it started and
it's been word of mouth eversince.
Wow, and it's my main gig, it'show I raised a child as a
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single mom and it's extremely,you know, fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It's.
That is that's actually verycool, and it's so nice to have
you know, someone to give you ahand up when you're, when you're
discovering this new path.
And for those of you who arelistening, who are maybe new
practitioners, who are peoplewho are also looking for some
support and help on your healingjourney, I think it's important
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for people to understand thereis something about the growth in
yourself as you begin todevelop and you begin to learn
how this all works.
And so for you I know you saidit's a long story, but what was
the first catalyst for you tounderstand that you were like a
medical intuitive?
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And and what does that actuallymean?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, I don't know what that means.
It could mean anything and I'mactually not a psychic in the
sense of the way most people usethat term.
I channel a teacher and that isa very big teacher.
The teacher's named Michael.
It's a group soul.
They come through a number ofpeople all over the world.
(11:12):
There are many books written onby different Michael channels
and I think that there aredifferent because it's such a
big soul.
There are different aspects ofthat group soul that come
through the different channels.
You know, depending on thatperson who's bringing it through
, my sort of my hardware willwill then sort of determine
(11:34):
which software is better forthem to bring through, so to
speak.
Right, okay, um, they readenergy, they scan energy.
They say it's a little bit likesonar, but not.
But it's.
They're scanning energy becauseultimately, everything, even we
know this from the quantumphysics, you, you know studies
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and research when it gets downto the tiniest little quark,
then there's just nothing butenergy.
It's all just energy patternsand energy will.
Reading energy, apparently,according to these teachers, is
really straightforward to them.
It's like they say it's like amelody that you recognize and or
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a song you recognize, and ifthe melody is the melody that
you know, that is, you know, inrhythm and in the proper tone
and everything, it sounds right.
But when it's off in some way,then you really can tell it's
obvious.
Okay, that's that's how theyequate it, that's the analogy
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they give and that makes senseto me, you know.
So when they read someone, theycan read the patterns that
their soul, the soul, shows tothe teachers, and then they read
the body as it connects to thepatterns of the body and the
energy patterns as it connectsto the soul pattern, and then
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they can begin to see wherethings are off.
And it's layer by layer, so it,it's never just off in one
place, it, it, it will go, go,you know, sort of back to the
core.
And most what I've learnedthrough many years 46, 47 years
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is that it, it all has to dowith our connection to the
divine, to what some people callthe dao.
I have studied martial arts andTai Chi for years and I'm kind
of a Taoist, I guess, and it'sthat sense of connection to
everything.
And when we cut ourselves off,which we tend to do because we
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think, I think, nina, becauseyou're over there and you seem
to be encapsulated in thisbeautiful, gorgeous skin and
colors and everything.
I think you're separate from mebecause I have this
encapsulation, but we're not andwe're.
We're not separate from nature.
We are nature as well as thebeautiful trees and everything.
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So the more we begin to notjust get that as a concept but
begin to feel it, then we comeinto greater harmony and with
ourselves and with you know,because we're in harmony with
our true mother, so to speak,our true parents.
You know the Navajo have somebeautiful all Native American
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practices traditionally are verybeautiful and I've done a
little study in many of them andstudy with a Native American
woman for 30 years about.
You know their that view of ofenergies.
But the Navajo have prayersthat they say every morning and
they ask in their own way may Iplease walk in beauty today?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's lovely.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And, and the idea is that by walking in beauty, you
restore harmony, and, again,that's what healing is.
But it's our responsibility, Ithink, if we want to heal
ourselves, to find the time tomake that intention every single
day.
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Yeah, I agree with you.
I also just recently my tribeof I'll call them girlfriends,
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but I think we're soul friendsand we have just started
stepping into the Indigenousculture and just understanding
that connection with nature andthe connection with one another.
Understanding that connectionwith nature and the connection
with one another.
It's, it's so interesting thatwhen one of us is going through
something, we're all goingthrough kind of this, a similar
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thing.
You know, right now we're kindof all dealing with the deeper
roots of our I'm going to saytrauma, because it's the only
word I can think of right now,and it's funny because we're not
talking about it to each other.
But you know, we'll have an offday and it's like all of us are
having an off day at the sametime and it's teaching me that
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we are so interconnected andthey do say, right, birds of a
feather flock together and thenfools don't differ.
But anyways, aside from that, Ithink for me I'm also beginning
to learn that life force is thesame life force for all.
It's not.
My life force is different thanyours.
You know we may come in and outat different times, but it's
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still the same force.
And recognizing that, like myquestion to you is, but you know
, recognizing that, how willthat help us to heal on a
grander scale?
You know just, we are in aspace in time.
I think we're always in a spacein time, but it feels like we
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are uniquely in a space and timewhere things seem to be getting
a little more worse and alittle more agitated and a lot
faster than before.
You know, shift theconsciousness, or how does the
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work that you do begin to shiftconsciousness so that we are
creating a different frequencyfor the entire, for the whole?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
A really important fundamental question.
Nina, I love your questions,you know I think it has a lot to
do with how we unconsciously dothings and shifting that to a
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conscious and, like I said,intentional way of operating.
So our and I mean I've alwaysbeen interested in anthropology
it was my, you know, minor incollege and you know you learn
early on and studying differentcultures, that the way that
people think and they operate inlife has a lot to do with their
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language, language.
So their language is formed outof a particular point of view
and also practicality.
But then they're formed fromthe language you know, and and
we tend in our culture to be ina very highly defined,
compartmentalized language thatkeeps us in our heads, keeps us
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um heads, keeps us um.
It's practical, you know, butit tends to.
And then the way the culture hasformed to this date, where we
have all kinds of digital mediaand so much information and
we're constantly distracted byimages and ideas and oh my lord,
you know, yeah, and so we'rejust always up here, and then we
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we try to like, heal or fixfrom up here and it we just run
into a wall, and so it's to meit's bringing the sort of where
we hold our consciousness downinto embodiment, into the heart
and into the belly and thenultimately also connecting to
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the earth.
And when we, when we arewilling I keep saying willing to
take the time, because youcan't, the way we're raised by
our society, you, it's notautomatic, you don't just come
from the heart all the time, butif you can take the time to be
feeling more in your heart,using breath work, the heart,
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math breathing or real, simplepranayamas, they put you in your
heart and then from your heartyou kind of instantly know,
there's a sense like, oh, thingsare good, or oh, it's a little
touchy today, you know, but youhave a sense of it in a way
that's more real than up here.
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And and then if you go evendeeper and put your hands on
your belly and feel the warmthof yourself, your spirit, really
filling out your body, then youcan start to get.
You know, I think I just needto drink a bit extra water today
and I'm feeling like maybe someelectrolytes extra would be,
you know.
So you start to get more intune with your own body.
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You know, this is what Ayurvedateaches.
Yeah, other thing I've been astudent of for many years, and
and that's Ayurveda is all aboutteaching you to be in more in
touch with your own body so thatyou can then welcome in divine
mystery.
But to me, the way that youwill change the world for a
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better place, which is going inthat direction, whether we will
it to or not, we're being sweptalong and there's a whole other
thing about that.
We could talk at another timeabout it.
We can talk whatever you wantto about it right now.
But I feel like again it comingback to the idea of sound and
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harmony and music and you knowwhen, when people are able to be
centered and sort of emittingtheir true frequency, because we
all are doing, we're all justradiating frequency, whether we
want to or not, we are, and ifwe're in a good place, you know,
so we're loving to ourselvesand then we tend to be loving
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and generous to others, and thenthat just increases.
But when we're, when we'refeeling like victims, when we're
feeling like somebody else hasdone something to me and I can't
find my power and I don't, youknow, I don't, I don't have, I,
you know, I need all of thatthen we separate out and then we
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see other situations and otherpeople as challenges and
sometimes threats, and then wemove apart.
So it's it's got to start withliterally feeling good in your
body, at whatever place you'reat, through using your breath
and just taking the time toenter in.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I love what you said.
It's so important because a lotof us I'm assuming a big
assumption here, but I think I'mnot off base is taking time,
and it's like, first of all, weall have something about time.
I think Time is a construct andwhen you begin to understand
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time is not linear, time is aman-made function and you can
wrap your head around that,which I'm in the world of,
wrapping my head around that andlearning that that's like the
most important thing.
That's like the most importantthing.
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It's.
It's like if, if you don't feedyourself with, with the, the,
the space to take care of what'shappening in your world, it's
like just not eating, yeah Right, Like physically not eating is
going to, is going to impact you, but there's something on top
of the basics of survival, thatthat I have found over.
You know, the last little while, that I've been doing this work
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for about 17 years, I think, 17years of of like healing myself
.
So, for those of you who arelistening, yet, I've been
working on this for 17 years andI think I'll be working on it
until my soul leaves my body.
Right, it's just like it's acontinuous, a continuous thing
that we do.
It's like you exercise everyday, you work on healing a
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little more every day, gettingbetter at it.
But what I've, what I've found,is even with me where I am, it's
like, oh yeah, I've got to takethe time, I've got to put it
aside to simple things like, youknow, a face routine.
You know, you know doing thestretches and the exercises that
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I need to do.
I had some some back issuesrecently and I had an energetic
cleansing and I'd love to shareabout that on another episode,
just where I just talk by myself.
But this and I could talk bymyself for hours, I think I'm
pretty sure, but learning howthat energetic cleansing within
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five days I think all the painin my back had disappeared and I
didn't do anything really thatdifferent.
You know, I've been going tophysiotherapy for almost six
months and it would like release, get better, but not really and
just get worse.
But doing the, the additionalwork of the cleansing and having
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someone like yourself tell meyou know you've got a lot,
you're hanging on to a lot ofanger and um, yeah, and you you
think, like in my brain and uphere in my brain, I thought I
had worked it all out becauseit's not something I'm thinking
about all the time.
I'm not in that space everymoment of the day or even every
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moment of the week, but if wedon't actually release it from
my, from our bodies which I'mlearning more and more we are
still out of alignment and itjust, it impacts us.
So when my back is hurting I'mnot very nice person my back is
hurting and I and I, you know,and I can't do all the things
that I want to do, and so it's,there's this spiral effect, and
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I'm, I'm just, I think I'mthinking out loud and processing
as we're speaking, which Ithink is like so magical when
you can begin to see that wearen't separate from self or
others.
I think we separate our brainand our heart and our bodies.
So mind, body, spirit, they'reseparate entities.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, we like to compartmentalize, yeah, and
again, that's the nature of ourculture, it's the nature of how
people are.
In my point of view and this isnot the teachers necessarily I
bring through, but I thinkpeople are herded in that
direction, because I really dofeel there's an overall uh
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agenda.
To enslave humans these dayshas a long time and, and humans
are at a very critical junctureright now yes, humans really
have to decide, you know, are wegoing to?
Are we going to, are we goingto connect?
Are we going to be connective?
Are we going to be, you know,compartmentalizing everything,
separating everything out, likeyou say.
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And like you say, when you takea moment and just reconnect back
in again, just sitting or justusing your breath or taking your
shoes off and putting your feeton the earth, simple five
minutes doesn't take long, itfeels good, it really does.
Yeah, and like the teacher,abraham you know, great teacher,
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uh, you know, for years,abraham says you know how does
it feel?
You know how does it feel?
Do you feel good?
Do you feel, you know, sort ofbalanced?
Okay, then that's a, that's aclue, that's good.
Go in that direction.
Yeah, there's nothing wrongwith feeling good.
(27:46):
Yeah, we shouldn't feel guiltyabout feeling good.
Right, that's how bad it'sbecome.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I'm just hearing you say this, and it's so true.
When we feel good, we do thiscrazy thing which is when's it?
How long is it going to last?
When's it going to go?
Like we're not used to being ina space where we can,
regardless of our circumstanceshere and out there there, feel
good.
And what comes to mind is thoseyoung children you see in
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Africa who are just so happy andthey're in like what we would
consider to be direcircumstances.
You know the poverty, the, thehunger, the famine, and yet
they're there, dancing andlaughing and smiling when they
can, because they feel good well, they're in their bodies,
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number one.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
They're not up here trying to figure things out.
They're just like they're justthere.
Yeah, and they got the earthcoming up through them yeah,
because they're not wearingshoes.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I'm just like I know it sounds ridiculous, but I've
been hearing this over and overand I have this thing I can't
walk on grass.
It just freaks me out because Iknow what my animals do on my
grass and I don't want to walkon it.
But I have a.
I just bought a grounding mat,which has been helpful, um, but
there's, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It's just it's here, yeah it.
You know it's so remarkablymundane and simple that our
brains just think how could thatmake any?
You know, how could that betrue?
How could it be true that someold anger that you stuck down in
the bottom of your liver iskeeping your back hurting you?
How could that be true?
How could it be true that someold anger that you stuck down in
the bottom of your liver iskeeping your back hurting?
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You know, how could that?
But that's the thing.
When we start to feel into allof ourselves, we get it.
And again, this is the lastplace to know, last, and we tend
to put it first.
And really the first place toknow is and we and we tend to
put it first, and really thefirst place to know is the in
the belly, your gut feeling.
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That's the seed of theintuition in the body.
It's not up here, or you knowno.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So so it you know.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
you say I have a gut feeling so if you know, you say
I have a gut feeling, it's forreal.
You have a gut feeling.
Yeah, it's true.
And and this idea of takingtime, you know many of the.
I've studied, you know again,70 years.
I've studied with a lot ofpeople over my lifetime and
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ultimately it all comes down tothem saying it's not so much how
long you spend in your practice, it's the purity of heart and
the clarity of intention thatyou put into those moments it's
not about quantity, it's aboutquality.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, that's, it's.
It's so true.
I've meditated for an hour andI've meditated for 10 minutes,
and sometimes that 10 minutes ismore powerful because I know
when I have 10 minutes it's gotto be intentional.
You know, I only have that muchtime and I have found them much
more powerful than when I'msitting, for after like 20
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minutes in an hour meditation,my mind starts wandering.
I'm going for a walk somewhere,you know, bringing myself back,
but those 10 minutes have mademake a big difference, right,
exactly, yeah, and just you know, for for our, our, our
listeners.
I just wanted to get back to thequestion about the medical,
(31:39):
intuitive part of what you do,because I don't think a lot of
people understand.
I know we kind of talked, we'retalking about it like you know,
I got an energy cleansing andshe was like yeah, you know your
liver is bad and it's this andwell, not bad, but there's some
issues going on there.
You're holding some stuff there, you're holding some stuff in
your colon and I'm like okay, soyou know, how does that?
(32:00):
From what I understand, I'm alittle over the place, sorry.
From what I understand, youknow, many of most of us have
issues going on with our liversjust because of the way the
world is working.
So what?
I guess?
What type of how do you do whatyou do?
And then what can we?
What's one small thing thateach of us can do to begin to
(32:25):
connect more to our bodies?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, again, every tradition has so many practices
and they're, and they're all.
They all work if you do them.
So, in terms of how I do what Ido, I'm bringing a teacher
through and they're doing it andI'm I'm pretty much just
letting it happen.
Okay, whether it's informationor whether they're doing an
(32:50):
actual bit of healing orwhatever it is, so it's so
different.
What I'm trying to say is personto person, and with one person
it might be.
The teacher.
Michael is giving them a littlenice but definite lecture on
becoming more willing to cookfood.
Okay, like you would.
(33:13):
You would be surprised how manypeople don't cook they'll say
well, I don't cook, right well,there's a, there's an inherent
problem with that, and so thethey will teacher, will go into
sort of the you know again theidea of self-care, self-respect,
you know, feeling connectedthrough, actually, through Nate
(33:39):
to nature, through the food thatyou prepare and many things.
So it could be that level, orit could be, michael, helping
someone to understand that theyhave to bring their energy
frequency up to a higher dailylevel, to what it's truly is, by
(34:03):
intention and by certainpractices, so that they are not
many people are, everybody'spsychic, everybody's intuitive.
It's just most people haveblocked it or don't believe it.
But what a lot of people do isthey morph, they change their
frequency to meet whomeverthey're in love with, or whoever
they're taking care of, or orwhoever they hate, ah, to be
(34:28):
either way, and then they bringtheir whole frequency I'm going
to use the term down, or downyou know, constricted is another
way to think about it from whatit really should be, based on
their soul, age and their bodyand everything.
So they could that person, theycould be cooking the perfect
(34:50):
food and taking all the rightsupplements and doing all the
right exercise and doing theright mantra, and if they are
keeping their frequency so muchsmaller or lower, however you
want to say it, than what theirsoul really is, they will never
get well.
They will never get well.
Yeah, so just see what I mean.
(35:11):
It depends.
But to answer that lastquestion, and maybe then we're
close to the end here.
Um, there's a.
There's a very simple practice.
That's an old, ancient,thousands of years old Taoist
practice that, I think, is oneof the best ways to do exactly
what you're asking about, whichis to how to get in touch with
(35:32):
your own body, and it's calledsmiling on the organs.
I love that or smiling on theinner, you know, inner.
You could say it in differentways, but the idea is that it's
a very sort of light, littlemeditation and you're, it's
visual, it's like a littlevisual journey meditation and
(35:54):
you imagine yourself like in alittle tiny spaceship or in a
little canoe, and you're, you'regoing inside of your body and
you're starting at the brain andyou're, you're, you know,
you're noticing the how it feelsin there, the energy of it, and
this could be, you could, onceyou've learned to do this, you
could do it very quickly, butI'll just talk through it.
(36:16):
It'll take a little more timethrough it, but you go into your
brain and then you just feellike, oh, oh, my gosh, what an
amazing, you know, organism.
This is, thank you.
So the idea of smiling on yourbrain is gratitude, gratitude,
yeah Right.
So what you're doing?
By smiling on the organs, you're, you're feeling gratitude for
(36:36):
this amazing organism.
Then you go to your, let's say,you go to your eyes and again
that sense of gratitude and justsmiling on your eyes, thank you
.
Go to your, let's say you go toyour eyes and again that sense
of gratitude and just smiling onyour eyes, thank you.
And then you're basically going.
You know, the more you knowabout anatomy, the more specific
you can make it.
But you can also just do it interms of the chakras so you can
say all of you team in there inthat chakra, thank you.
(37:00):
You know, and even here all theteam working here, which
there's some important stuffgoing on a lot.
I love you, thank you, and youdo this through the whole body
and then you notice also, whenyou've done this a few times and
again, just you could do thisin two, three minutes, when you
know, after you get a littlepractice with it, you'll notice
(37:22):
that certain organs, like, let'ssay, the liver, like it doesn't
want you to leave right away ohwe need a little more attention
there.
We need a little more love.
We need to raise the frequencyof that organ to its true
potential frequency, rather thanit being constricted and low
and not working right.
(37:42):
So then you spend more timeloving on that organ.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Basically, that's just you're speaking to me
because of the things that I'vebeen working on I don't want to
say dealing with, because I'mworking on them and I caught
myself today.
My knee was hurting as I waswalking up the stairs.
I was like, oh, stupid knee.
I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, stupid knee.
No, I love you.
Thank you, please, keep working.
(38:06):
Right, exactly, we do this likeoh my stupid, this is hurting,
or this damn back pain, orwhatever words we use.
Right we?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
we don't realize that we're inflicting pain or sorrow
in our own bodies and demeaningourselves, and therefore, so
it's.
It's.
There's a lot to that you justsaid, and, and when you've done
the whole thing, putting yourhands on your belly and then
also feeling a connection to theearth and to the energy that
(38:39):
wants to feed you from the earth, and that end of it, and again
it's, it's a really good way totune in and your body will begin
to tell you oh, this area, thisneeds a little more attention
right now.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Thank you so much for that and, you know, thank you
on behalf of the listeners.
Thank you so much for what youdo, who you are, you know.
For what you do who you are,you know expanding the
consciousness of the collective.
It's not an easy task andsometimes it is Enjoyable task.
Yes, it is an enjoyable task,but that's why I love talking
(39:13):
about it.
You know, I love to have tolearn.
I'm always learning.
I'm coming with fresh eyes toevery conversation and I hope
that you know I'm coming withfresh eyes to every conversation
and I hope that, uh, you knowthose.
The listeners have gotten abetter idea of how this can work
and how they can, uh, connectmore to self.
And if someone wants to connectwith you aside from the
(39:33):
miracles directory, mary, howcan we find you?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Well, at the moment I don't have a website and I
apparently don't care that muchabout that.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
I'm laughing Cause I looked and I don't have a
website and I apparently don'tcare that much about that.
I'm laughing because I lookedand I couldn't find one.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, I know I should get around to it.
I probably will at some point.
I don't have one now.
Anyway, if people areinterested in scheduling a
session, they can go to Mary.
If people are interested inscheduling a session, they can
go to marymichaelgroupsoul atgmailcom.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Perfect.
Thank you so much.
It was such a pleasure havingyou on here.
I think we're going to have tohave you back so we can get a
little deeper into a bit moreconversation about how we can
continue to connect to ourconsciousness.
So thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Been a wonderful pleasure, Nina.
You are so much fun to talk to.
I could do it for a while Thankyou.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
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Welcome to this episode ofHealers Talk Healing, where
we're joined by Mary Janitis, anextraordinary artist and
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medical intuitive who has spentover four decades honing her
ability to channel thebenevolent.
Being known as Michael, mary'sjourney into the spiritual and
healing arts began with afascination for Eastern
philosophies and medicalpractices.
Began with a fascination forEastern philosophies and medical
practices, including Qui-Gon,tai Chi, chow, shiatsu and the
(01:30):
Meridian System.
Her ongoing study andconnection with the entity
Michael have allowed her toaccess profound insights into
the spiritual dimensions ofhealth, providing answers and
guidance to those seeking helpwith their health issues.
In today's episode, we'll delvedeep into Mary's unique
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consultation process, which goesbeyond the typical medical
advice.
Through her exceptionalchanneling skills, mary, with
the assistance of Michael,performs energetic scans of the
body to identify where energy isblocked or flowing, pinpointing
the emotional, mental andspiritual imbalances that
manifest as physical ailments.
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and long-term health solutionsToday.
I am so excited to have MaryJanitis with us here today.
You know, mary, I was doing alittle bit of reading up before
we, you know, started recording,and I am so intrigued by what
(02:58):
you do.
So this is going to be anamazing conversation.
But I always ask the startingquestion, which is what is your
definition of healing?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Could be a lot of things.
Thank you, nina, it's great tobe with you.
I'm excited.
I'm super excited just to haveheard that your podcast is
called from victim to victory,because to me that's a good
example of healing right there,and I guess my idea of healing
would be to reconnect to pureconsciousness through going
(03:37):
deeply into yourself, soreconnecting to your own truth
in every way, whether it's aphysical way or an emotional way
, psychological, spiritual and,through that, coming into
connection to divine mystery,pure consciousness, god creator,
however it is for you, yeah, tome that's full healing.
(03:58):
It's a restoring of what I'dcall the true order of things.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I like what you said, the restoring the true order of
things.
I think that happens to be, Ithink, the search for everyone
what is the true order of thingsfor yourself, for your?
You know, people are alwayslike why am I here, what's my
purpose?
(04:25):
And then we have this journeyto kind of unravel that, I guess
, and it is well.
In my experience it's been ajourney of healing.
Like things happen then you tryand work through them and find
different ways to do it, and I'mfascinated, like I said before,
about the work that you do.
And I'm fascinated, like I saidbefore, about the work that you
(04:47):
do.
I've recently come across themedical medium and some of his
work and so you know I thinkit's fascinating because there's
information there that's notout there in the average medical
world and the connection tosource and the connection to
(05:08):
consciousness and how thatimpacts how our bodies work.
I'm just, it's so fascinating.
I'd love to hear from you a bitof your journey and how you got
to where you are today, butalso really about how this all
works and how how it can help tocreate a better connection with
(05:32):
self.
Okay, yeah, that was a bigmouthful right, it's a lot.
This is what my brain does.
It's like this and this, andthis and this, and so why don't
we just start with where?
How did this all start for you?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh my gosh.
Well, okay, so I'm my nextbirthday, I'll be 70.
And, uh, don't look at at all.
Well, so far, so good.
Um, but I started when I was 23.
(06:06):
And and before that, mybackground is in terms of
culture.
I was raised in a in a workingclass factory family in
Wisconsin, on the lake betweenChicago and Milwaukee.
Very humble beginnings mymother did house cleaning, my
(06:28):
father worked in a foundry and Iwas raised as a Catholic.
My parents were very wonderfulpeople, older people believed
very strongly in a very clearethic and moral approach to life
.
With very loving hearts, theyreally lived what they preached.
(06:49):
In other words, and that was mybackground, only child born to
older parents, and my firstmemory that I really hold that's
very strong is walking down thedriveway and looking out at all
the little manicured lawns andall the little you know brick
(07:11):
bungalows.
They were tiny but well-kept,but everything was sort of
separate and it was.
I just looked at it all andthought this is a weird way for
people to live.
It all looks so separate to me.
So, when I look back I think,well, I was, I had a.
I had other lives bleeding intomy awareness as a, as a young
(07:35):
child, like, I think, a lot ofchildren do.
So I had the point of view fromvery early on that was
different than what I was beingraised in, let's put it that way
.
So once I started to be able toread, I started reading
everything I could about worldreligions.
And you know, I was in fifthand sixth grade and I'm reading
(07:57):
about world religions because itinterested me.
So that's the background.
And then some psychicexperiences as a teenager made
me understand there's, there'sthis whole other world that most
of us aren't taught about, butit's there.
We just don't see it, ornecessarily sometimes some
(08:18):
people see it, some people hearit, but I felt it.
And then it's a long story.
I'm not going to go into thewhole thing, but I found myself,
after going through college, asan artist and learning also to
be an educator.
I found myself in this wholeother place of being asked
(08:40):
because of things that justhappened and came through, being
asked to um by a friend who hadbecome an acupuncturist to make
myself available basically asnot just a medical intuitive but
as someone who could helppeople, as he said, there are a
lot of.
I have a number of patients andtheir situation of uh, you know
(09:04):
, the healing situation, ortheir issues that were in the
way of healing, actually aren'tphysical, they're actually more
spiritual or something to dowith a relationship or something
from the past.
And I said, oh, I, you know, Idon't think I could do that.
And he said, oh yes, you could.
I've.
You know, I've experienced whatyou do inadvertently, what you
(09:30):
know, in a meditative state,when people ask, and he said, so
I'm going to set it up, I'mgoing to help you set up a
business, I'm going to help youset up structure, and you know
you schedule people, you knowthat sort of thing.
So he was a big brother to meand that's how it started and
it's been word of mouth eversince.
Wow, and it's my main gig, it'show I raised a child as a
(09:54):
single mom and it's extremely,you know, fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It's.
That is that's actually verycool, and it's so nice to have
you know, someone to give you ahand up when you're, when you're
discovering this new path.
And for those of you who arelistening, who are maybe new
practitioners, who are peoplewho are also looking for some
support and help on your healingjourney, I think it's important
(10:27):
for people to understand thereis something about the growth in
yourself as you begin todevelop and you begin to learn
how this all works.
And so for you I know you saidit's a long story, but what was
the first catalyst for you tounderstand that you were like a
medical intuitive?
(10:47):
And and what does that actuallymean?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, I don't know what that means.
It could mean anything and I'mactually not a psychic in the
sense of the way most people usethat term.
I channel a teacher and that isa very big teacher.
The teacher's named Michael.
It's a group soul.
They come through a number ofpeople all over the world.
(11:12):
There are many books written onby different Michael channels
and I think that there aredifferent because it's such a
big soul.
There are different aspects ofthat group soul that come
through the different channels.
You know, depending on thatperson who's bringing it through
, my sort of my hardware willwill then sort of determine
(11:34):
which software is better forthem to bring through, so to
speak.
Right, okay, um, they readenergy, they scan energy.
They say it's a little bit likesonar, but not.
But it's.
They're scanning energy becauseultimately, everything, even we
know this from the quantumphysics, you, you know studies
(11:58):
and research when it gets downto the tiniest little quark,
then there's just nothing butenergy.
It's all just energy patternsand energy will.
Reading energy, apparently,according to these teachers, is
really straightforward to them.
It's like they say it's like amelody that you recognize and or
(12:21):
a song you recognize, and ifthe melody is the melody that
you know, that is, you know, inrhythm and in the proper tone
and everything, it sounds right.
But when it's off in some way,then you really can tell it's
obvious.
Okay, that's that's how theyequate it, that's the analogy
(12:42):
they give and that makes senseto me, you know.
So when they read someone, theycan read the patterns that
their soul, the soul, shows tothe teachers, and then they read
the body as it connects to thepatterns of the body and the
energy patterns as it connectsto the soul pattern, and then
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they can begin to see wherethings are off.
And it's layer by layer, so it,it's never just off in one
place, it, it, it will go, go,you know, sort of back to the
core.
And most what I've learnedthrough many years 46, 47 years
(13:25):
is that it, it all has to dowith our connection to the
divine, to what some people callthe dao.
I have studied martial arts andTai Chi for years and I'm kind
of a Taoist, I guess, and it'sthat sense of connection to
everything.
And when we cut ourselves off,which we tend to do because we
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think, I think, nina, becauseyou're over there and you seem
to be encapsulated in thisbeautiful, gorgeous skin and
colors and everything.
I think you're separate from mebecause I have this
encapsulation, but we're not andwe're.
We're not separate from nature.
We are nature as well as thebeautiful trees and everything.
(14:11):
So the more we begin to notjust get that as a concept but
begin to feel it, then we comeinto greater harmony and with
ourselves and with you know,because we're in harmony with
our true mother, so to speak,our true parents.
You know the Navajo have somebeautiful all Native American
(14:33):
practices traditionally are verybeautiful and I've done a
little study in many of them andstudy with a Native American
woman for 30 years about.
You know their that view of ofenergies.
But the Navajo have prayersthat they say every morning and
they ask in their own way may Iplease walk in beauty today?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's lovely.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And, and the idea is that by walking in beauty, you
restore harmony, and, again,that's what healing is.
But it's our responsibility, Ithink, if we want to heal
ourselves, to find the time tomake that intention every single
day.
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Yeah, I agree with you.
I also just recently my tribeof I'll call them girlfriends,
(15:42):
but I think we're soul friendsand we have just started
stepping into the Indigenousculture and just understanding
that connection with nature andthe connection with one another.
Understanding that connectionwith nature and the connection
with one another.
It's, it's so interesting thatwhen one of us is going through
something, we're all goingthrough kind of this, a similar
(16:05):
thing.
You know, right now we're kindof all dealing with the deeper
roots of our I'm going to saytrauma, because it's the only
word I can think of right now,and it's funny because we're not
talking about it to each other.
But you know, we'll have an offday and it's like all of us are
having an off day at the sametime and it's teaching me that
(16:26):
we are so interconnected andthey do say, right, birds of a
feather flock together and thenfools don't differ.
But anyways, aside from that, Ithink for me I'm also beginning
to learn that life force is thesame life force for all.
It's not.
My life force is different thanyours.
You know we may come in and outat different times, but it's
(16:49):
still the same force.
And recognizing that, like myquestion to you is, but you know
, recognizing that, how willthat help us to heal on a
grander scale?
You know just, we are in aspace in time.
I think we're always in a spacein time, but it feels like we
(17:13):
are uniquely in a space and timewhere things seem to be getting
a little more worse and alittle more agitated and a lot
faster than before.
You know, shift theconsciousness, or how does the
(17:39):
work that you do begin to shiftconsciousness so that we are
creating a different frequencyfor the entire, for the whole?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
A really important fundamental question.
Nina, I love your questions,you know I think it has a lot to
do with how we unconsciously dothings and shifting that to a
(18:07):
conscious and, like I said,intentional way of operating.
So our and I mean I've alwaysbeen interested in anthropology
it was my, you know, minor incollege and you know you learn
early on and studying differentcultures, that the way that
people think and they operate inlife has a lot to do with their
(18:30):
language, language.
So their language is formed outof a particular point of view
and also practicality.
But then they're formed fromthe language you know, and and
we tend in our culture to be ina very highly defined,
compartmentalized language thatkeeps us in our heads, keeps us
(18:54):
um heads, keeps us um.
It's practical, you know, butit tends to.
And then the way the culture hasformed to this date, where we
have all kinds of digital mediaand so much information and
we're constantly distracted byimages and ideas and oh my lord,
you know, yeah, and so we'rejust always up here, and then we
(19:16):
we try to like, heal or fixfrom up here and it we just run
into a wall, and so it's to meit's bringing the sort of where
we hold our consciousness downinto embodiment, into the heart
and into the belly and thenultimately also connecting to
(19:36):
the earth.
And when we, when we arewilling I keep saying willing to
take the time, because youcan't, the way we're raised by
our society, you, it's notautomatic, you don't just come
from the heart all the time, butif you can take the time to be
feeling more in your heart,using breath work, the heart,
(19:59):
math breathing or real, simplepranayamas, they put you in your
heart and then from your heartyou kind of instantly know,
there's a sense like, oh, thingsare good, or oh, it's a little
touchy today, you know, but youhave a sense of it in a way
that's more real than up here.
(20:19):
And and then if you go evendeeper and put your hands on
your belly and feel the warmthof yourself, your spirit, really
filling out your body, then youcan start to get.
You know, I think I just needto drink a bit extra water today
and I'm feeling like maybe someelectrolytes extra would be,
you know.
So you start to get more intune with your own body.
(20:45):
You know, this is what Ayurvedateaches.
Yeah, other thing I've been astudent of for many years, and
and that's Ayurveda is all aboutteaching you to be in more in
touch with your own body so thatyou can then welcome in divine
mystery.
But to me, the way that youwill change the world for a
(21:07):
better place, which is going inthat direction, whether we will
it to or not, we're being sweptalong and there's a whole other
thing about that.
We could talk at another timeabout it.
We can talk whatever you wantto about it right now.
But I feel like again it comingback to the idea of sound and
(21:28):
harmony and music and you knowwhen, when people are able to be
centered and sort of emittingtheir true frequency, because we
all are doing, we're all justradiating frequency, whether we
want to or not, we are, and ifwe're in a good place, you know,
so we're loving to ourselvesand then we tend to be loving
(21:51):
and generous to others, and thenthat just increases.
But when we're, when we'refeeling like victims, when we're
feeling like somebody else hasdone something to me and I can't
find my power and I don't, youknow, I don't, I don't have, I,
you know, I need all of thatthen we separate out and then we
(22:14):
see other situations and otherpeople as challenges and
sometimes threats, and then wemove apart.
So it's it's got to start withliterally feeling good in your
body, at whatever place you'reat, through using your breath
and just taking the time toenter in.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I love what you said.
It's so important because a lotof us I'm assuming a big
assumption here, but I think I'mnot off base is taking time,
and it's like, first of all, weall have something about time.
I think Time is a construct andwhen you begin to understand
(22:56):
time is not linear, time is aman-made function and you can
wrap your head around that,which I'm in the world of,
wrapping my head around that andlearning that that's like the
most important thing.
That's like the most importantthing.
(23:16):
It's.
It's like if, if you don't feedyourself with, with the, the,
the space to take care of what'shappening in your world, it's
like just not eating, yeah Right, Like physically not eating is
going to, is going to impact you, but there's something on top
of the basics of survival, thatthat I have found over.
You know, the last little while, that I've been doing this work
(23:38):
for about 17 years, I think, 17years of of like healing myself
.
So, for those of you who arelistening, yet, I've been
working on this for 17 years andI think I'll be working on it
until my soul leaves my body.
Right, it's just like it's acontinuous, a continuous thing
that we do.
It's like you exercise everyday, you work on healing a
(24:00):
little more every day, gettingbetter at it.
But what I've, what I've found,is even with me where I am, it's
like, oh yeah, I've got to takethe time, I've got to put it
aside to simple things like, youknow, a face routine.
You know, you know doing thestretches and the exercises that
(24:21):
I need to do.
I had some some back issuesrecently and I had an energetic
cleansing and I'd love to shareabout that on another episode,
just where I just talk by myself.
But this and I could talk bymyself for hours, I think I'm
pretty sure, but learning howthat energetic cleansing within
(24:50):
five days I think all the painin my back had disappeared and I
didn't do anything really thatdifferent.
You know, I've been going tophysiotherapy for almost six
months and it would like release, get better, but not really and
just get worse.
But doing the, the additionalwork of the cleansing and having
(25:12):
someone like yourself tell meyou know you've got a lot,
you're hanging on to a lot ofanger and um, yeah, and you you
think, like in my brain and uphere in my brain, I thought I
had worked it all out becauseit's not something I'm thinking
about all the time.
I'm not in that space everymoment of the day or even every
(25:34):
moment of the week, but if wedon't actually release it from
my, from our bodies which I'mlearning more and more we are
still out of alignment and itjust, it impacts us.
So when my back is hurting I'mnot very nice person my back is
hurting and I and I, you know,and I can't do all the things
that I want to do, and so it's,there's this spiral effect, and
(25:58):
I'm, I'm just, I think I'mthinking out loud and processing
as we're speaking, which Ithink is like so magical when
you can begin to see that wearen't separate from self or
others.
I think we separate our brainand our heart and our bodies.
So mind, body, spirit, they'reseparate entities.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, we like to compartmentalize, yeah, and
again, that's the nature of ourculture, it's the nature of how
people are.
In my point of view and this isnot the teachers necessarily I
bring through, but I thinkpeople are herded in that
direction, because I really dofeel there's an overall uh
(26:39):
agenda.
To enslave humans these dayshas a long time and, and humans
are at a very critical junctureright now yes, humans really
have to decide, you know, are wegoing to?
Are we going to, are we goingto connect?
Are we going to be connective?
Are we going to be, you know,compartmentalizing everything,
separating everything out, likeyou say.
(27:01):
And like you say, when you takea moment and just reconnect back
in again, just sitting or justusing your breath or taking your
shoes off and putting your feeton the earth, simple five
minutes doesn't take long, itfeels good, it really does.
Yeah, and like the teacher,abraham you know, great teacher,
(27:25):
uh, you know, for years,abraham says you know how does
it feel?
You know how does it feel?
Do you feel good?
Do you feel, you know, sort ofbalanced?
Okay, then that's a, that's aclue, that's good.
Go in that direction.
Yeah, there's nothing wrongwith feeling good.
(27:46):
Yeah, we shouldn't feel guiltyabout feeling good.
Right, that's how bad it'sbecome.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I'm just hearing you say this, and it's so true.
When we feel good, we do thiscrazy thing which is when's it?
How long is it going to last?
When's it going to go?
Like we're not used to being ina space where we can,
regardless of our circumstanceshere and out there there, feel
good.
And what comes to mind is thoseyoung children you see in
(28:16):
Africa who are just so happy andthey're in like what we would
consider to be direcircumstances.
You know the poverty, the, thehunger, the famine, and yet
they're there, dancing andlaughing and smiling when they
can, because they feel good well, they're in their bodies,
(28:41):
number one.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
They're not up here trying to figure things out.
They're just like they're justthere.
Yeah, and they got the earthcoming up through them yeah,
because they're not wearingshoes.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I'm just like I know it sounds ridiculous, but I've
been hearing this over and overand I have this thing I can't
walk on grass.
It just freaks me out because Iknow what my animals do on my
grass and I don't want to walkon it.
But I have a.
I just bought a grounding mat,which has been helpful, um, but
there's, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It's just it's here, yeah it.
You know it's so remarkablymundane and simple that our
brains just think how could thatmake any?
You know, how could that betrue?
How could it be true that someold anger that you stuck down in
the bottom of your liver iskeeping your back hurting you?
How could that be true?
How could it be true that someold anger that you stuck down in
the bottom of your liver iskeeping your back hurting?
(29:35):
You know, how could that?
But that's the thing.
When we start to feel into allof ourselves, we get it.
And again, this is the lastplace to know, last, and we tend
to put it first.
And really the first place toknow is and we and we tend to
put it first, and really thefirst place to know is the in
the belly, your gut feeling.
(29:58):
That's the seed of theintuition in the body.
It's not up here, or you knowno.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So so it you know.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
you say I have a gut feeling so if you know, you say
I have a gut feeling, it's forreal.
You have a gut feeling.
Yeah, it's true.
And and this idea of takingtime, you know many of the.
I've studied, you know again,70 years.
I've studied with a lot ofpeople over my lifetime and
(30:29):
ultimately it all comes down tothem saying it's not so much how
long you spend in your practice, it's the purity of heart and
the clarity of intention thatyou put into those moments it's
not about quantity, it's aboutquality.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, that's, it's.
It's so true.
I've meditated for an hour andI've meditated for 10 minutes,
and sometimes that 10 minutes ismore powerful because I know
when I have 10 minutes it's gotto be intentional.
You know, I only have that muchtime and I have found them much
more powerful than when I'msitting, for after like 20
(31:13):
minutes in an hour meditation,my mind starts wandering.
I'm going for a walk somewhere,you know, bringing myself back,
but those 10 minutes have mademake a big difference, right,
exactly, yeah, and just you know, for for our, our, our
listeners.
I just wanted to get back to thequestion about the medical,
(31:39):
intuitive part of what you do,because I don't think a lot of
people understand.
I know we kind of talked, we'retalking about it like you know,
I got an energy cleansing andshe was like yeah, you know your
liver is bad and it's this andwell, not bad, but there's some
issues going on there.
You're holding some stuff there, you're holding some stuff in
your colon and I'm like okay, soyou know, how does that?
(32:00):
From what I understand, I'm alittle over the place, sorry.
From what I understand, youknow, many of most of us have
issues going on with our liversjust because of the way the
world is working.
So what?
I guess?
What type of how do you do whatyou do?
And then what can we?
What's one small thing thateach of us can do to begin to
(32:25):
connect more to our bodies?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, again, every tradition has so many practices
and they're, and they're all.
They all work if you do them.
So, in terms of how I do what Ido, I'm bringing a teacher
through and they're doing it andI'm I'm pretty much just
letting it happen.
Okay, whether it's informationor whether they're doing an
(32:50):
actual bit of healing orwhatever it is, so it's so
different.
What I'm trying to say is personto person, and with one person
it might be.
The teacher.
Michael is giving them a littlenice but definite lecture on
becoming more willing to cookfood.
Okay, like you would.
(33:13):
You would be surprised how manypeople don't cook they'll say
well, I don't cook, right well,there's a, there's an inherent
problem with that, and so thethey will teacher, will go into
sort of the you know again theidea of self-care, self-respect,
you know, feeling connectedthrough, actually, through Nate
(33:39):
to nature, through the food thatyou prepare and many things.
So it could be that level, orit could be, michael, helping
someone to understand that theyhave to bring their energy
frequency up to a higher dailylevel, to what it's truly is, by
(34:03):
intention and by certainpractices, so that they are not
many people are, everybody'spsychic, everybody's intuitive.
It's just most people haveblocked it or don't believe it.
But what a lot of people do isthey morph, they change their
frequency to meet whomeverthey're in love with, or whoever
they're taking care of, or orwhoever they hate, ah, to be
(34:28):
either way, and then they bringtheir whole frequency I'm going
to use the term down, or downyou know, constricted is another
way to think about it from whatit really should be, based on
their soul, age and their bodyand everything.
So they could that person, theycould be cooking the perfect
(34:50):
food and taking all the rightsupplements and doing all the
right exercise and doing theright mantra, and if they are
keeping their frequency so muchsmaller or lower, however you
want to say it, than what theirsoul really is, they will never
get well.
They will never get well.
Yeah, so just see what I mean.
(35:11):
It depends.
But to answer that lastquestion, and maybe then we're
close to the end here.
Um, there's a.
There's a very simple practice.
That's an old, ancient,thousands of years old Taoist
practice that, I think, is oneof the best ways to do exactly
what you're asking about, whichis to how to get in touch with
(35:32):
your own body, and it's calledsmiling on the organs.
I love that or smiling on theinner, you know, inner.
You could say it in differentways, but the idea is that it's
a very sort of light, littlemeditation and you're, it's
visual, it's like a littlevisual journey meditation and
(35:54):
you imagine yourself like in alittle tiny spaceship or in a
little canoe, and you're, you'regoing inside of your body and
you're starting at the brain andyou're, you're, you know,
you're noticing the how it feelsin there, the energy of it, and
this could be, you could, onceyou've learned to do this, you
could do it very quickly, butI'll just talk through it.
(36:16):
It'll take a little more timethrough it, but you go into your
brain and then you just feellike, oh, oh, my gosh, what an
amazing, you know, organism.
This is, thank you.
So the idea of smiling on yourbrain is gratitude, gratitude,
yeah Right.
So what you're doing?
By smiling on the organs, you're, you're feeling gratitude for
(36:36):
this amazing organism.
Then you go to your, let's say,you go to your eyes and again
that sense of gratitude and justsmiling on your eyes, thank you
.
Go to your, let's say you go toyour eyes and again that sense
of gratitude and just smiling onyour eyes, thank you.
And then you're basically going.
You know, the more you knowabout anatomy, the more specific
you can make it.
But you can also just do it interms of the chakras so you can
say all of you team in there inthat chakra, thank you.
(37:00):
You know, and even here all theteam working here, which
there's some important stuffgoing on a lot.
I love you, thank you, and youdo this through the whole body
and then you notice also, whenyou've done this a few times and
again, just you could do thisin two, three minutes, when you
know, after you get a littlepractice with it, you'll notice
(37:22):
that certain organs, like, let'ssay, the liver, like it doesn't
want you to leave right away ohwe need a little more attention
there.
We need a little more love.
We need to raise the frequencyof that organ to its true
potential frequency, rather thanit being constricted and low
and not working right.
(37:42):
So then you spend more timeloving on that organ.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Basically, that's just you're speaking to me
because of the things that I'vebeen working on I don't want to
say dealing with, because I'mworking on them and I caught
myself today.
My knee was hurting as I waswalking up the stairs.
I was like, oh, stupid knee.
I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, stupid knee.
No, I love you.
Thank you, please, keep working.
(38:06):
Right, exactly, we do this likeoh my stupid, this is hurting,
or this damn back pain, orwhatever words we use.
Right we?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
we don't realize that we're inflicting pain or sorrow
in our own bodies and demeaningourselves, and therefore, so
it's.
It's.
There's a lot to that you justsaid, and, and when you've done
the whole thing, putting yourhands on your belly and then
also feeling a connection to theearth and to the energy that
(38:39):
wants to feed you from the earth, and that end of it, and again
it's, it's a really good way totune in and your body will begin
to tell you oh, this area, thisneeds a little more attention
right now.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Thank you so much for that and, you know, thank you
on behalf of the listeners.
Thank you so much for what youdo, who you are, you know.
For what you do who you are,you know expanding the
consciousness of the collective.
It's not an easy task andsometimes it is Enjoyable task.
Yes, it is an enjoyable task,but that's why I love talking
(39:13):
about it.
You know, I love to have tolearn.
I'm always learning.
I'm coming with fresh eyes toevery conversation and I hope
that you know I'm coming withfresh eyes to every conversation
and I hope that, uh, you knowthose.
The listeners have gotten abetter idea of how this can work
and how they can, uh, connectmore to self.
And if someone wants to connectwith you aside from the
(39:33):
miracles directory, mary, howcan we find you?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Well, at the moment I don't have a website and I
apparently don't care that muchabout that.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
I'm laughing Cause I looked and I don't have a
website and I apparently don'tcare that much about that.
I'm laughing because I lookedand I couldn't find one.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, I know I should get around to it.
I probably will at some point.
I don't have one now.
Anyway, if people areinterested in scheduling a
session, they can go to Mary.
If people are interested inscheduling a session, they can
go to marymichaelgroupsoul atgmailcom.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Perfect.
Thank you so much.
It was such a pleasure havingyou on here.
I think we're going to have tohave you back so we can get a
little deeper into a bit moreconversation about how we can
continue to connect to ourconsciousness.
So thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Been a wonderful pleasure, Nina.
You are so much fun to talk to.
I could do it for a while Thankyou.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
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