May 17, 2024 • 43 mins
When Shanaz "Shaz" Kalantar, an ex-National Olympic gymnast turned gut health sage, graced our podcast, it wasn't just an interview; it was a masterclass on the resilience of the human spirit and the body's ability to heal. Battling ailments like acne and IBS, Shaz's life-altering pivot from traditional medicine to naturopathy unveiled the symbiotic relationship between our gut and brain, a revelation that has since fueled her mission to educate and empower. Through her narrative, learn how she transformed her struggles into a beacon of hope for others, reinventing her wellbeing and, in the process, helping countless individuals navigate their own journeys to health.
Our conversation took an intriguing turn as we explored the generational divide in health perceptions, particularly in gut wellness. The younger crowd's push for self-care and informed advocacy contrasts sharply with the bygone era's blind reliance on prescriptions and doctor's orders. We took a deep look at how lifestyle changes and modern diets have affected our internal ecosystems, offering a compass for those ready to step up and take control of their health. Shaz's wisdom extends beyond her own experiences, serving as a guidepost for listeners who are keen to elevate their health literacy and find solace in a community of like-minded seekers.
As we wrapped up this enlightening session, we delved into the power of intentional eating and the silent war against inflammation. Every bite holds the promise of healing, and Shaz shared gems on navigating food labels and choosing anti-inflammatory paths. We considered the profound influence of mental health on our eating habits and how to resist the siren call of comfort foods in moments of stress. Our discourse on the benefits of detoxification and the importance of holistic approaches to health left us with actionable insights and a reminder that every meal is an opportunity to nurture our bodies and minds. Follow Shaz's vibrant Instagram journey and join our podcast family for a regular dose of inspiration on the path to a balanced, holistic lifestyle.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where
we gather to explore the art andscience of holistic healing,
uncovering the secrets to ahappier, healthier you.
I'm your host, nina Ganguly,and together we will delve into
the intriguing world of holistichealing, delving into the
mind-body connection, ancientwisdom and natural remedies.
(00:24):
Get ready for enlighteningstories, thought-provoking
expert interviews and practicaltips that will empower you to
unlock your true potential andembrace a vibrant, balanced life
.
Whether you're an experiencedwellness enthusiast or simply
curious about the power ofhealing, join us on this
exhilarating journey, as weshare the wisdom and insights
(00:47):
that can truly transform yourlife.
It's time to embark on a voyagetowards a happier, healthier
you.
So, without further ado, let'sdive into the captivating world
of Healers Talk Healing.
Welcome to Healers Talk Healing.
On this episode, I'm thrilledto introduce to you Shehnaz
Kalantar, a prominent gut health, wellness and nutrition
(01:11):
educator who has turned herpersonal struggles into a
pathway for healing.
Others Known affectionately asShaz, she's become an
influential coach through aunique blend of education and
life experiences.
From a young age, shaz facednumerous health challenges,
including acne, candida and IBS,which were further complicated
(01:33):
during her time as a NationalOlympic gymnast.
Despite these hardships,including severe dizziness and
multiple concussions, shaz'sresilience shone through.
It was through these trialsthat Shaz found her true calling
, transitioning from a corporatefitness and wellness consultant
to an entrepreneur.
In our conversation, shazshares how she overcame her
(01:57):
health obstacles and nowempowers others to take control
of their wellness.
She advocates for a committedapproach to health
transformation, emphasizing guthealing, mental clarity and
overall health management.
Join us as Shaz unfolds herinspiring journey and actionable
strategies for a healthier life.
(02:18):
So I am excited for thisepisode because I have one of my
besties, daughter.
On, shannaz, I'm sure that'show you wanted to be introduced.
Everyone heard the bio before,so we're all good, but it's
exciting because we have neverhad like really alone time.
(02:38):
So to have this conversation inthis format is pretty cool, I
think.
And so, shuna, as I always askevery one of our guests, what is
your definition of healing?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think healing is going through the dark to get to
the light and finding, like,more pockets of peace in your
chaos and just in the chaos ofworld.
That's what I feel like healingis to me.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, so you know, I know that you know your well
part of your healing journeycertainly started with you
dealing with some certaincircumstances that you had that
you were trying to discover youknow some solutions for.
So I'd really love to hearabout you know, what was that
(03:35):
impetus for you to start on, youknow creating the business.
Now that you've created, youknow a big, successful business
helping, you know women dealwith you know gut issues but
what was the catalyst for you?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
That led me to like doing it as a business or to
heal myself, like healing, Likeyeah, just like what was, what
was your.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
You know, we all have something right, something that
helps us, something that getsus on this healing journey.
For me, it was experience, uh,experiencing abuse for many
years, and then you know,something's always like that
thing.
That's like okay, this is whatI need to do in order to start
feeling better.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah for sure.
So for me it was adult acnethat was like very persistent.
But then more concerning wasbrain fog, lightheaded spells
and fainting at quite a youngage.
So it was concerning because itheld me back from achieving a
lot of my goals.
It was stopping me from doingwell in school and it was also
(04:41):
just dangerous.
You know, like I could getbehind a wheel and feel fine and
then all of a sudden get theselightheaded and dizzy spells.
So that really made me realize,like you know, like I'm 20
years old, I shouldn't beexperiencing these symptoms.
And what really propelled meinto healing myself and also
like helping other people is notgetting any help with
(05:06):
traditional doctors in thisspecific situation because it's
not well known, it's not wellstudied about the gut microbiome
and how the gut brainconnection is.
So I realized that it wasn'treally getting answers.
When I went to the doctorsthey'd say you know, just rest
more, just sleep more, justexercise more.
(05:29):
And it was very surface and Iwas like these are really
concerning symptoms and I'm notreally getting an answer.
So it forced me to learn how toheal myself, which in turn
helps me heal other people.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So what was that journey like?
Because I think there's there'sso many people I've heard this
story about going to you knowwho we think are supposed to
help us work out your symptomsthat we don't understand and
we're not getting answers.
So what was the first step thatyou took out, you know, once
you felt that the doctorsweren't supporting you in a way
(06:05):
that would give you a solution?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
My first step was trying to switch to holistic
medicine and going throughnaturopathic doctors and getting
the necessary testing that Ineeded to understand my root
causes.
And I did learn a lot in thatpath of like understanding that
my gut was a big component to alot of my symptoms and my
hormones, because a naturopathicdoctor can look at the same
(06:31):
blood result as a traditionalphysician and give you very
different results.
To that like learning on my ownand just seeking answers within
like I would ask like what do Ineed to do?
Please attract the right people, places, medicines, supplements
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, food in order for me to likeheal.
So it was very inward and Ifeel like that's what really
helped me heal, too, is likeasking the right questions and
then praying that I wasattracted to the right people,
places and things.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I love.
I love that because it's notthe first time I've I've heard
that, inside of looking for, uh,physical health, uh solutions,
is to start looking at well, arewe asking the right questions?
Are we at the right, likeenergetic level?
Are we putting out there whatwe really want to get back?
(07:30):
So, when you start, when youstarted this journey and you
started working with anaturopath, um, I I want the
listeners to get like there's somany, there are so many people
that can support out there thatit's not.
It doesn't um, that can becauseI don't want to diminish our
medical community.
There is definitely a place forthem.
(07:50):
Like, in the event of anemergency, I don't think your
naturopath can actually help you.
You need to go to the hospital,yeah, but the thing is that I
don't know if enough peopleunderstand that it's a
multi-pronged approach.
Like you need a team as well asthat connection between your
(08:12):
mind, your body, your spirit,your soul, where you're, where
you're, um, uh, what was?
When did you discover that it'smore than just physical?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, so it was actually working with a
naturopathic doctor because theyagain, I love their work, I
admire their knowledge and I'mreally grateful for my
experience.
But I asked them aboutnutrition and they they were
saying that nutrition didn'thave much impact on my healing,
which I thought was a bitconcerning because I studied
nutrition and I knew there was abig correlation.
(08:45):
And then also ask veryspiritual questions, like you
know, I know trauma and pain,can you know, revert inside and
that could cause physicalsymptoms to like what are your
takes on that?
And of course that's not theright place to ask those
questions.
And I quickly realized okay, Igot what I needed from this
experience and now I need tofigure out the mental, spiritual
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side and get more supportbecause a naturopathic doctors
you don't have to just call themand text them, you know, like,
again, very respectful of theirpractice, but legally they can't
give advice outside theiroffice.
So there's only so much supportthat you can get.
(09:27):
And I studied a lot.
I learned a lot from my mom, Ilearned a lot from Deepak Chopra
, just studying how you can talkto your cells, and all my free
time I would listen toaffirmations to heal myself and
heal my body.
So if I drove anywhere, I waslistening to that.
(09:48):
If I was, you know, at the gym,I was listening to that and I
feel like that was reallypowerful of me trying to rewire
my conscious and subconscious tolearn how to heal myself too.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's it's.
It's so important and I thinkI'm glad that you're sharing
that because for our listeners,I think it's important for us, a
state in a, in a space ofhealing or at full health, but
there's so much that we we do orwe experience things that we
(10:35):
have control over, things thatwe don't have control over, that
impact us at all levels and wedon't realize it.
But I was, I just myselfstarted learning how much trauma
can impact like years and yearsdown the road.
You know, you think you've,you've dealt with everything,
and then, all of a sudden, whyis my back hurting all the time?
(10:56):
For no reason, why is this outof sorts?
And it's uh, it's physical, andyou know, know, my brain goes
to wait a minute, though, but Ithought I dealt with all this,
maybe mentally, but not on, youknow, at a deep level.
So when you're working withwith some, with your clients,
where, like where, do youusually start with them?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So, uh, typically we just start to make sure we're a
good fit.
You know, like I want to makesure that what they're
experiencing I've experiencedpersonally, because I love
having the empathy and I loveand I love showing them like,
hey, I was in your position andI'm on the other side and I've
helped heal so many people inthis exact same position.
So I really specialize in likepeople that have hormonal
imbalances, candida overgrowth,parasitic infections for a
(11:49):
specific reason because I wentthrough that and then we can do
a stool test.
So oftentimes if a doctorhasn't conducted a stool test, I
can set that up for them sothat we can see exactly what's
going on physically in the gut.
I do like a really deep healthassessment with them which asks
these important questions aboutyou know what is your trauma?
(12:10):
How do you practice self love?
How do you practice self care?
Do you have support?
What are your main stressfactors?
What is your relationship withfood?
You know what foods make youfeel sick, like all these kind
of things on a mind, body andsoul level.
And then for me, support iseverything I always offer, like
unconditional love and unlimitedtech support, because I think
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love heals and I think supportis everything when you're going
through such a difficult time.
So that's pretty much myprocess and we do lots of check
ins, of course.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So so how do you actually you know what I'm going
to ask you a different question.
My question, my next question,is well, what is your routine,
now that you are sort of on theother side, what's actually what
?
What do you do in order to keepeverything balanced?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
and spiritual aspects , because that is the foundation
.
You know, and when you areunder a lot of stress and you
can find, like I said, you canfind peace in the chaos and you
learn that power, then that cannever be taken away from you
because you can't control theexternal factors, you can only
control the inside.
So I still make a lot of timeto practice my meditation, my
breathing, watching my thoughtsif they're getting to a point
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where they feel really fearfuland overwhelming.
And nutrition for me is like mypassion, my love.
So it's very easy for me to eatlike healthy foods and keep a
good gut microbiome, which meanslike really making sure I'm not
indulging in sugar, becausethat's like the biggest trigger
for gut dysbiosis and alsohormonal imbalances, just it's
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causes so much inflammation.
So I eat mostly like a glutenfree diet and again, this is not
for everybody, but it's justwhat works for me.
Everyone has their own unique,you know, diet and what works
for them.
But yeah, I just I practice alot of gratitude, I eat well, I
exercise, I try to connect withnature.
(14:22):
I think that's where my powerlies.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, I think what I'm hearing is like that.
You know, the, the, the multi,the multi approach.
Now I think that you know I'mnot sure if you agree with me
but I feel like the, you know,healing and looking at gut
health and looking at your liverand looking at, you know, your
physicality, is something that'sfairly new in the Western world
(14:48):
.
You know, two or three or fouryears ago I wouldn't have heard
about gut health and theconnection, mind-body connection
to that.
Um, what do you, what?
What do you?
Why do you think that is nowthat this is now becoming a huge
topic of conversation?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
yeah, I think it's really sad that it's only now,
because your gut is 70% of yourimmune system, which is a very
big portion, and so muchhormonal activity happens in the
gut.
But why it's happening now is afew reasons.
One, there were a lot ofinfluencers like me that started
openly talking about it.
(15:30):
Like I started a YouTube pagein 2015, being like, hey, I'm
Shaz and nobody knows what'swrong with me, but I have these
symptoms and I'm going to sharemy experience and that's kind of
how, like my business started.
And so many people commentedlike I have those symptoms too
and you know.
All that kind of stuff and guthealth really started trending,
(15:51):
to be honest, not just becauseof me, but because a lot of
people started opening up andbeing honest about it.
And I do think our generation,as they're getting younger,
being having more freedom tospeak without feeling so fearful
, so I think that helps.
We have a lot more ability tosay what we need to say and
share this information oversocial media.
(16:11):
But also the way we grew up isvery important to analyze.
You know, we were a generationthat grew up on a lot of candy
and it doesn't matter where youlive, we all somehow had the
same childhood.
Like we all ate Dunkaroos, weall had Gushers, all you know
what I mean.
We all had Dairy Queen andMcDonald's and all the things,
(16:33):
which is fine, you know.
But I think we were also overprescribed antibiotics.
A lot Like back then if you hadan ear infection, antibiotics.
If you had a little bit of asore throat, antibiotics like
there was no hesitation on giventhe antibiotics, and that
heavily damages the gut.
And then not only that, we area generation that has a lot of
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depression, a lot of anxiety,and that requires a lot more
medication.
We are very much forced thebirth control pill again, which
is a huge distributor for guthealth, you know.
So there's a lot of reasons whythe gut is more damaged in
general, because there are a lotof older generations that are
like what is gluten-free.
(17:13):
I've eaten bread my whole lifeand had never had a stomach
issue.
So I think it's a generationalthing and that we're
experiencing more gut issues andthat we have the ability to
speak on social media and andinternet to share what we're
suffering with yeah, you knowit's funny because I am a I'm of
your mother's generation.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, so.
I think one of the things that,um, I can say about that is we
did not learn to advocate forourselves.
We, we are a generation of.
If the doctor says a, you don'tquestion the doctor, you do a,
even if you're like I'm not, I'mnot sure.
Like I'm at the point with mydoctor now where I go and I say,
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okay, this is what's happening,I think this is what I need,
and she just does a couple ofchecks and balances and she's
like here okay, yeah, you'reright, uh, but when I was your
age, if my doctor said to methis, this and this, yeah, like
I was prescribed tetracyclinefor acne, now that's like, if
anybody knows now whattetracycline does, it kills
(18:19):
everything and you're like good,bad, not.
Yes, terrible.
Yeah, that's still beingprescribed, by the way yeah, you
know it's so funny because I Ididn't know that because I was
on the birth control at time.
We were not told that.
Oh, by the way when you're onthat, oh, by the way, when
you're on birth control, by theway, your pills don't you're,
and you're on antibiotics, yourpills don't work.
Be nice if someone said thatexactly.
(18:41):
Yeah, I suffered with so manyyeast infections and I didn't
know why.
Right, yeah, and it was becauseof, you know, being on
tetracycline being on.
I shouldn't have even been onthe pill if I was on
tetracycline.
I think that's right.
You know now that I'm thinkingabout it.
Gosh, I've never actually toldanybody about that.
So, yeah, I think you know, for, for you know, women and men of
(19:03):
of my age, we were in a, in aspace where you, like, you
listen to your teachers, youlisten to the doctor, you did
not question anything because wewere brought up that way.
You don't question,quote-unquote, experts or
authority.
So I think that there is abenefit, yeah, to being of.
You know how we say oh, thisgeneration, yeah, every
(19:25):
generation, by the way says thatabout the next generation yeah,
I know, really we should all beworking together, yeah
absolutely, absolutely, and Ithink there's a lot to learn
cross-generationally fromeveryone.
But what was it?
Okay?
So what advice would you giveto people who are unsure, like
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they're not feeling 100%, sothey're not going to the doctor.
So we're not feeling a hundredpercent, so they're not going to
the doctor, so we're nottalking about it?
I'm I'm trying to, you know,ask this.
Basically, I want to know whatdo we do when we're not feeling
(20:10):
that great and we don't want togo tell anybody or talk to
anybody but you're not feelinggood?
You know, there are people whostill are afraid to even talk to
a naturopath or a healer or adoctor or anything, because
they're they're they're afraid.
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Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, afraid, and also like money can be a big
factor too.
Um, I think the best thing,like is utilize what is free on
the internet and I know that canbe not the best advice either,
because there's so much on theinternet.
But even if you can startfinding people that you feel
called to, listening you feeltheir energy from their video
(21:07):
and you go back to what I saidis like ask the the right
questions, ask who am I, what doI need to heal you know?
What are the root causes ofwhat is causing these, these
pains?
And just starting having thatconversation with yourself and
allow yourself to receiveinformation that to come to you.
If you're afraid to go out, youknow, and I think that's like
(21:30):
the bravest thing you can do isjust be open to receiving.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So true.
So I have some actual technicalquestions to ask you yes, of
course let's talk about sugar.
Yeah, let's talk about thesugar Because, from my own
personal research andunderstanding, sugar can be the
enemy, but it's also not alwaysthe enemy, from my understanding
(21:59):
.
It depends on what kind ofsugar you're filling your body
with, because our bodies do needglucose to actually survive.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Okay.
So, firstly, sugar isn'tglucose, it's sucralose, so
that's just glucose is fruit,glucose is vegetables, you know.
So you, you need that type ofglucose to survive.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You don't need sugar to survive, but sugar, yeah,
just clarify that more, for formy listeners for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't think anyone should be afraid of sugar and I
think there's so much power inenjoying treats and, you know,
enjoying festivals and holidays,like that is not something to
be afraid of, but what youconsume on an everyday basis is
is.
It's unfortunate, but it is ourresponsibility to understand
what we're putting in our body.
(22:50):
So sugar on its own, cane sugarthere's nothing wrong with that
.
But where sugar is put in is aproblem.
Sugar is put in ketchup.
Sugar is put in barbecue sauce.
Sugar is put in teriyaki sauce.
Sugar is put in every singlegranola bar.
Sugar is put in bread.
Sugar is put in your milk.
Sugar is in everything.
(23:11):
And so they know, and you knowscience, they know that we're
it's something that's veryaddictive, like there's so many
studies that show that it's moreaddictive than cocaine, and you
know it's.
Also you also have to understand, like why is it that apples are
more expensive than gummy bears?
Right, because there's a motivethere, and it's again, it's
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unfortunate that it's ourresponsibility, because it
shouldn't be, but that issomething that we have to be
aware of.
And again, these are thequestions you have to ask, like
why is that?
You know, why is it that gummybears are cheaper than apples,
right, and I don't think sugar'senemy.
Like I said, cane sugar is notan enemy.
But when you mix cane sugar witha hydrogenated oil like canola
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oil, and then you add in dairythat's processed and heavily
filled with hormones, and thenyou add in some flour, that that
straight white flour with nofiber, and you say here's a
muffin, there's no nutritionalvalue in that and it's just
going to cause a lot ofinflammation.
(24:24):
But again, if you're havinglike cake on your birthday or
it's like, it's not to be afraid.
But again, it's that rule ofunderstanding Every time you eat
you're either healing yourselfor you're increasing your
inflammation.
It's every single time You'reeither healing or you're
increasing your inflammation.
That's profound, it's it's justa choice every single day.
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And if you decrease yourinflammation to a point where
you can enjoy a treat and yourinflammation bar is not
exploding amazing.
But if your entire body is soinflamed and you just keep
eating all these things, that'swhen all these symptoms are so
persistent and they won't goaway until you decrease all that
inflammation okay, so let's goback to the difference between
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glucose.
Yeah, glucose is what you need.
It is brain power, that's whatyou hear.
It's energy.
Yes, you know, glucose is avery complex molecule.
That is bread and that is fruitand that is vegetables.
You know, people forget thatvegetables are carbohydrates.
(25:32):
I think, like people justassume, vegetables are just like
vitamins and minerals, but,like, if you eat cucumber,
that's still brain food, that'sstill energy.
Although it's not caloric dense, it's not going to give you too
much energy.
It's still energy.
So glucose is a complexmolecule.
Sucralose is a branch ofglucose and it's just the sugar,
(25:56):
just like this fructose, whichis also another form of sugar.
And they'll try and trick you.
In the ingredient list there'slike over 20 different names for
sugar alone.
Wow, just to keep you confused.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Okay, what are the top three confusing names?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
corn syrup is like one that you would think isn't
sugar, but it is.
I mean, most people would knowcorn syrup is, but they'll,
they'll do that also.
Another thing to remember inthe ingredient list is it goes
from most to least, so if sugaris ever in the first ingredient,
then that's always somethingyou should never have, because
that means it's mostly sugar.
That's the number oneingredient.
(26:35):
Nothing, yeah, but yeah,there's sucralose, there's
fructose, I think those areprobably the biggest ones.
Um, but yeah, cane sugar is isnatural and that is how you know
it's made plant.
That's the plant cane sugar andit's just what they do.
And how they make sugar likecorn is a problem.
(26:56):
They process that a lot andthat's where they get that high
fructose corn syrup and that'svery inflammatory to the body
yeah, I, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I've also myself been hearing a lot about
inflammation, and there are somany of us who walk around we
have no idea that we're eveninflamed, until it gets to a
point where it's like whoa nowwe've got to like put the like
the emergency button becausewe've got to stop everything and
reset.
So for for, from myunderstanding, from some of the
(27:27):
readings that I've done and theresearch that I've done, like
most of us, just because of theway the world works and the way
things are now, we're alreadyinflamed.
So we like kind of like we'vegot this base level of
inflammation.
Yeah, so for those of us whoare like base level inflammation
, you know we're not really, wedon't really know if we're
inflamed or not yeah, what are,what can we do to reduce our
(27:51):
inflammation, like when we'renot in a space of, you know, 911
situation?
Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, there's definitely things like anti
inflammatory diets right, whereyou eliminate a lot of
inflammation, foods like that,the, the canola oils, the sugars
, the gluten, the processedgluten, right, the processed
food in general.
That's one of the best powersyou can give.
And I think it's hard because alot of us struggle to be
(28:23):
disciplined enough becausethere's too many temptations and
we, a lot of us, aren't trainedmentally to understand that
we're doing this to benefit usand we start to slip into victim
mentality and like, oh, like, Ihad a hard day, I deserve a
donut, like it sucks, you know,and that's fine.
But again, that's how we'retrained, so it's again it comes
(28:47):
back to that mental health.
It's like what do you want?
What is best for you, what isyour priority?
And you have to keep that inmind every time you make a
choice and remind yourself everytime I eat, I'm either cause
I'm helping my healing or I'mcausing more inflammation.
So nutrition there's.
What I do specifically is helppeople heal gut dysbiosis, which
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is so.
That's something that's veryimportant, because if you can
heal any pathogens in the gut,like you said, yeast infections,
that's a big sign of candida.
If you have parasites or if youhave any type of symptoms that
are concerning you taking thetime to clear your gut, do a gut
cleanse or a liver cleanse,like?
I know there's a lot of tabooaround those things, but I
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always try to remind you, like,or my clients, and remind people
that every time we eat, like Isaid, if you've been eating
inflammatory foods for years andyears and years and years,
years you think it could take onall.
It's like someone who'sconstantly being hit every
single day like how much can youtake, how much?
When are you?
When's your body going to be?
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Like, when is it my turn tobreathe?
And have something to help mebreathe and just take a rest.
You know so.
Your gut will always need thatbecause it's constantly working
for you.
Your liver is constantlyworking for you.
All your detox organs theycrave a little bit of that
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refresh, restart and a week ofdedication.
A month of dedication, threemonths of dedication, is nothing
compared to the years of all ofthe inflammatory foods you've,
even choices you know, yeah,it's.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It's interesting because you touched a little bit
upon, you know, the I'm gonnasay this, I'm just gonna say it
like capitalism, right, you knowwhere are we gonna spend our
like, you know where are wegonna spend the money?
How can we get?
And it's a?
It's funny because I justearlier, you know, recorded
another um, another guest, andwe ended up talking about the
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same thing.
It just keeps coming up is, youknow, we are not a society that
is at the base level, lookingat health and as as preventative
care, absolutely yeah.
We're a society, specificallyin North America, that is really
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more about let's just, you know, take care of the symptoms and
keep just taking care of thesymptoms.
So, you know, I have the three,the big three, the top three.
I have high blood pressure,which I've had since I was in my
twenties.
I have recently, in the lastyear, been diagnosed with type
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two diabetes and highcholesterol, which I know are
both things that I can take careof and I'm beginning to work on
it.
But I, you know, I asked mydoctor.
I said, okay, I'm well awarethat diabetes, especially if I'm
getting it in at this age, inmy fifties, is something that I
can take care of.
I know there's also the wholemenopause thing.
That's a whole other thing,that's a whole nother show.
(31:51):
It is yeah, you know.
So when I asked her okay, sowhat can I do so that I can get
off these?
I don't want to stay on thesepills.
I know I need them right nowbecause my levels are now at
like a 9-1-1 level, so I need tomake sure I get that down quick
.
And she said yeah, you'reprobably not going to be able to
come off those pills yeah,right, I'm like, but just
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everyone else out there sayingit's possible, so I don't get it
right.
Yeah, so what do you think aboutthat?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Again, you have to understand that, like the, the,
they don't get trained innutrition, they're not trained
on a holistic level, and that'sokay.
Like we said, we need them inemergency situations.
We have to understand theirstrengths.
They study disease and medicine.
They always have a medicine,that's for sure, and that's also
that's how they make theirmoney and, again, respectable.
But if you are looking for thatholistic, that preventative,
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that healing, it's just.
This is why I extend my serviceand this is where you're gonna
have to understand who do I goto for help?
How do I understand how tonourish my body, to decrease my
insulin levels, to bring myblood pressure back down?
What do I need to do on aconsistent level?
Because, again, people arelooking.
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When they come to me, I'malways like I'm not your quick
fix girl.
Okay, I am not.
You're not going to come to meand get a special supplement, a
special pill, like it does takework.
That's why I always say it'sgoing through dark to get to the
light, because you have tocompletely reprogram yourself,
you have to sit in thediscomfort, you have to feel an
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uncomfortable symptom, eventhough you are working so hard,
even though you're exercising,you're eating all the right
things and you haven't dropped apound in a week.
That's that's how it's going togo.
That's healing, that's goingthrough the dark to get to the
light.
It's trusting that process.
So it's it's hard.
It's hard, it's very, verytriggering.
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It's very difficult.
Like you said, people wantwhat's comfortable, they want to
surface, but there are so manypeople out there and there are
lots of, lots of things you cando nutritionally.
Go inward, ask your, go inward,ask your body, ask your body
what it needs.
I talk to your own cells andsay, like what do?
What do we need?
What do we need cells?
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You know like the doctors arenot helping you anymore, so you
help yourself and you.
You reach out for support whenyou need it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
you know I love that you said that, because I think
you know when we're, when we'retalking, to know listeners who
are just maybe delving into thisworld of holistic healing and
holistic health and the wholegamut of of looking at more of a
natural lifestyle, is the powerof connecting and listening to
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your body.
Yes, yes, like literally askingokay, because your body, you're
right, your body will tell youif you're willing to listen.
It's not Lulu, it's not crazy.
It's called that that you knowintuition that's going to tell
you and speak to you of what'sgoing to work.
I just did that the other dayabout something.
(35:03):
I can't remember what it was.
Oh today while I was cooking.
I wish I remembered, so I couldshare, that I was asking my
body about something.
My ear started ringing and I'mlike oh, the guides are knocking
on my door.
What do you need to tell me?
Yes, I thought about this.
Oh, I should remember this frommy conversation with Shanaz,
and I can't remember it now, ofcourse, but I do want to.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I do want to emphasize that, yes, ask
yourself, but you should never Idon't believe anyone should
heal alone, because we'restrongest in a community, we're
stronger when we work togetherand, again, the way our system
is set up is to to divide us.
So I do believe that everyonehas someone that could guide
them, that could help them ontheir healing journey.
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No one can heal you.
You heal you, but I do feelthat there's definitely someone
that's always a good fit for youout there that can help, guide
you and support you on yourhealing journey for sure 100%.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'm glad that you said that, because there it's
not possible.
Honestly, from my ownexperience it's not possible
because you don't know what youdon't know Right.
You know I'm not a nutritionist, nutritionalist, I'm not a gut
health expert, I'm not a liverexpert, you know, I'm not even
like a somatic expert.
So to release energy from mybody, I'm not an expert in that.
(36:21):
I had to learn to do breathwork to start to understand.
Oh, you know, I went to anenergetic healer, so there's a
lot of it is important.
You have a team.
You know, even like yourmedical doctor needs to be part
of your team.
You know your naturopathicdoctor, your, your, whoever your
experts are in your corner tohelp, because I, you just know
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there's something's not working.
Yeah, that's for sure.
I think we all know whensomething's not working and when
something is physically, evenmentally, we know it's a matter
of of just asking for help,which many of us have a lot of
difficulty doing.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I am one of those people scared to pay for this,
so I can't pay for this.
And then that come.
I always am like make sure youknow that you know your worth,
if you feel like I'm the goodfit for you because money is
just energy and if it means thatwe can exchange and you live
your best self and then youvibrate higher and you attract
more money.
Like that's how it would workfor you.
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But it's really hard.
It takes a lot of strength toget to the point of being like
okay, I I'm willing to investinto myself and I'm trusting.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
That's a big one, especially for women.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's like we'llinvest.
And sometimes it's sosubconscious you don't even
realize you're doing it.
You don't realize how you'reputting everybody first, because
there's a little bit of likeyou get something from that too,
right.
Even realize you're doing it.
You don't realize how you'reputting everybody first, because
there's a little bit of likeyou get something from that too,
right yeah when you're giving,then you're like oh, you know,
(38:11):
I'm spending time with my kids,I'm giving to my kids.
Oh, my husband, oh, I'm givingto all my mother and my
mother-in-law and everybody andthen all of a sudden, you're
like, oh, it's 10 o'clock atnight, I ain't got time to
invest in myself now.
I need to go to bed so that Ican rest, and everybody else
tomorrow?
Yes, exactly A challenge, and Iknow you have two young ones.
I was just before we startedrecording.
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I was like I don't know how youdo all this and still work at
home and get it all done.
But I can tell by what you'resharing.
It's like you are ensuring thatyou are taking care of your
mental health and you knowpairing that with your physical
health and your spiritual health.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And it's not just a one.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Like I said before, it's not a one pronged approach
and I'm really glad that youhave those conversations with.
You know the clients who say,well, oh, I don't have the money
, cause a lot of times, we knowa lot of times, sometimes it
truly is about the money and alot of times it is about the
value.
And it's not that, it's notyour value, it's the value you
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see in yourself.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, and fear.
Fear of not it not working,fear of you know you feel like
you're always going to be stuckin the symptoms and position
you're going to be in, rightLike, look, look at the power of
what your doctor told you andhow it imprints you consciously,
subconsciously, saying itdoesn't matter what you do,
you're going to be on thesepills forever.
So now imagine you invest$1,000 into someone that says we
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can heal nutritionally, butyour subconscious is still like,
well, I don't think this isgonna work, because doctor said
I'm gonna be on pills forever.
So that's, that's the power andthat's the fear and that's what
we have.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
We have all those imprints yes, indeed, and you
know, it's funny because there'sa level of belief that you have
to have subconsciously.
Even if I say to you no, shedoesn't believe that you can
help me, and the little voice islike no, she can't, no, she
can't, no, she can't.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, that's how it's just again going through the
dark to get to the light.
It's you facing yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's how I that's powerful, because it's not just
about your gut health, no, it isfacing yourself, and I'm glad
that you're saying that, becausea doctor won't say, okay, well,
you got to get your emotions incheck, right?
Because, like, if you don'thave your emotions in check, I
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can give you all this medication.
Nothing's going to work, right?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You're willing to say listen, okay, I get that you
have this, but do you see thatthere's all of this buildup that
has happened over years, allthe trauma that you've held in,
all all of the on the thingsthat you've never communicated,
that you should perhapscommunicate and say and hold in
your body, that impacts.
It's not just the eating.
(41:06):
I think that's what I want toget at before you know, as we
come to a close, this is whatyou've been saying the whole
time it's not just the eating.
It is, and but it's not theonly thing yeah, well, it can't
be.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
When we are spiritual being inside a physical body,
how can we only focus on thephysical?
That doesn't make any sense.
It's we have to focus on all ofthose aspects to to heal for
sure.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Amazing.
Well, she knows this has beensuch a fabulous conversation.
It was so nice talking to you,but how can we find you aside
from the miracles directory?
How can people connect with youand get your magic?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
yes, okay, so my name is shanaz, but I mostly go by
shaz, which is s-h-a-z, so allof my platforms are shazness
wellness, um, and I have awebsite shazness wellness.
Instagram.
Shazness wellness.
Youtube.
Shazness wellness it's allaround tiktok.
Shazness wellness.
You can find me on shaznessWellness Instagram.
Shazness Wellness.
Youtube.
Shazness Wellness it's allaround TikTok.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Shazness Wellness.
You can find me on ShaznessWellness Amazing.
And, by the way, I've seen alot of your Instagram posts, a
lot of your reels.
So for those of you who are,you know, wanting to step into
the water, tip your toe and youcan find her on the miracles
directory, but you can alsocheck her out on instagram.
I love your reels.
I love when the kids are in thereels.
They're, they're so cute.
Yeah, you want to see her kidscheck it out, because they're
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adorable so thank you again somuch.
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From a young age, shaz facednumerous health challenges,
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Join us as Shaz unfolds herinspiring journey and actionable
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So I am excited for thisepisode because I have one of my
besties, daughter.
On, shannaz, I'm sure that'show you wanted to be introduced.
Everyone heard the bio before,so we're all good, but it's
exciting because we have neverhad like really alone time.
(02:38):
So to have this conversation inthis format is pretty cool, I
think.
And so, shuna, as I always askevery one of our guests, what is
your definition of healing?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think healing is going through the dark to get to
the light and finding, like,more pockets of peace in your
chaos and just in the chaos ofworld.
That's what I feel like healingis to me.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, so you know, I know that you know your well
part of your healing journeycertainly started with you
dealing with some certaincircumstances that you had that
you were trying to discover youknow some solutions for.
So I'd really love to hearabout you know, what was that
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impetus for you to start on, youknow creating the business.
Now that you've created, youknow a big, successful business
helping, you know women dealwith you know gut issues but
what was the catalyst for you?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
That led me to like doing it as a business or to
heal myself, like healing, Likeyeah, just like what was, what
was your.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
You know, we all have something right, something that
helps us, something that getsus on this healing journey.
For me, it was experience, uh,experiencing abuse for many
years, and then you know,something's always like that
thing.
That's like okay, this is whatI need to do in order to start
feeling better.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah for sure.
So for me it was adult acnethat was like very persistent.
But then more concerning wasbrain fog, lightheaded spells
and fainting at quite a youngage.
So it was concerning because itheld me back from achieving a
lot of my goals.
It was stopping me from doingwell in school and it was also
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just dangerous.
You know, like I could getbehind a wheel and feel fine and
then all of a sudden get theselightheaded and dizzy spells.
So that really made me realize,like you know, like I'm 20
years old, I shouldn't beexperiencing these symptoms.
And what really propelled meinto healing myself and also
like helping other people is notgetting any help with
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traditional doctors in thisspecific situation because it's
not well known, it's not wellstudied about the gut microbiome
and how the gut brainconnection is.
So I realized that it wasn'treally getting answers.
When I went to the doctorsthey'd say you know, just rest
more, just sleep more, justexercise more.
(05:29):
And it was very surface and Iwas like these are really
concerning symptoms and I'm notreally getting an answer.
So it forced me to learn how toheal myself, which in turn
helps me heal other people.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So what was that journey like?
Because I think there's there'sso many people I've heard this
story about going to you knowwho we think are supposed to
help us work out your symptomsthat we don't understand and
we're not getting answers.
So what was the first step thatyou took out, you know, once
you felt that the doctorsweren't supporting you in a way
(06:05):
that would give you a solution?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
My first step was trying to switch to holistic
medicine and going throughnaturopathic doctors and getting
the necessary testing that Ineeded to understand my root
causes.
And I did learn a lot in thatpath of like understanding that
my gut was a big component to alot of my symptoms and my
hormones, because a naturopathicdoctor can look at the same
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blood result as a traditionalphysician and give you very
different results.
To that like learning on my ownand just seeking answers within
like I would ask like what do Ineed to do?
Please attract the right people, places, medicines, supplements
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, food in order for me to likeheal.
So it was very inward and Ifeel like that's what really
helped me heal, too, is likeasking the right questions and
then praying that I wasattracted to the right people,
places and things.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I love.
I love that because it's notthe first time I've I've heard
that, inside of looking for, uh,physical health, uh solutions,
is to start looking at well, arewe asking the right questions?
Are we at the right, likeenergetic level?
Are we putting out there whatwe really want to get back?
(07:30):
So, when you start, when youstarted this journey and you
started working with anaturopath, um, I I want the
listeners to get like there's somany, there are so many people
that can support out there thatit's not.
It doesn't um, that can becauseI don't want to diminish our
medical community.
There is definitely a place forthem.
(07:50):
Like, in the event of anemergency, I don't think your
naturopath can actually help you.
You need to go to the hospital,yeah, but the thing is that I
don't know if enough peopleunderstand that it's a
multi-pronged approach.
Like you need a team as well asthat connection between your
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mind, your body, your spirit,your soul, where you're, where
you're, um, uh, what was?
When did you discover that it'smore than just physical?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, so it was actually working with a
naturopathic doctor because theyagain, I love their work, I
admire their knowledge and I'mreally grateful for my
experience.
But I asked them aboutnutrition and they they were
saying that nutrition didn'thave much impact on my healing,
which I thought was a bitconcerning because I studied
nutrition and I knew there was abig correlation.
(08:45):
And then also ask veryspiritual questions, like you
know, I know trauma and pain,can you know, revert inside and
that could cause physicalsymptoms to like what are your
takes on that?
And of course that's not theright place to ask those
questions.
And I quickly realized okay, Igot what I needed from this
experience and now I need tofigure out the mental, spiritual
(09:07):
side and get more supportbecause a naturopathic doctors
you don't have to just call themand text them, you know, like,
again, very respectful of theirpractice, but legally they can't
give advice outside theiroffice.
So there's only so much supportthat you can get.
(09:27):
And I studied a lot.
I learned a lot from my mom, Ilearned a lot from Deepak Chopra
, just studying how you can talkto your cells, and all my free
time I would listen toaffirmations to heal myself and
heal my body.
So if I drove anywhere, I waslistening to that.
(09:48):
If I was, you know, at the gym,I was listening to that and I
feel like that was reallypowerful of me trying to rewire
my conscious and subconscious tolearn how to heal myself too.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's it's.
It's so important and I thinkI'm glad that you're sharing
that because for our listeners,I think it's important for us, a
state in a, in a space ofhealing or at full health, but
there's so much that we we do orwe experience things that we
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have control over, things thatwe don't have control over, that
impact us at all levels and wedon't realize it.
But I was, I just myselfstarted learning how much trauma
can impact like years and yearsdown the road.
You know, you think you've,you've dealt with everything,
and then, all of a sudden, whyis my back hurting all the time?
(10:56):
For no reason, why is this outof sorts?
And it's uh, it's physical, andyou know, know, my brain goes
to wait a minute, though, but Ithought I dealt with all this,
maybe mentally, but not on, youknow, at a deep level.
So when you're working withwith some, with your clients,
where, like where, do youusually start with them?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So, uh, typically we just start to make sure we're a
good fit.
You know, like I want to makesure that what they're
experiencing I've experiencedpersonally, because I love
having the empathy and I loveand I love showing them like,
hey, I was in your position andI'm on the other side and I've
helped heal so many people inthis exact same position.
So I really specialize in likepeople that have hormonal
imbalances, candida overgrowth,parasitic infections for a
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specific reason because I wentthrough that and then we can do
a stool test.
So oftentimes if a doctorhasn't conducted a stool test, I
can set that up for them sothat we can see exactly what's
going on physically in the gut.
I do like a really deep healthassessment with them which asks
these important questions aboutyou know what is your trauma?
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How do you practice self love?
How do you practice self care?
Do you have support?
What are your main stressfactors?
What is your relationship withfood?
You know what foods make youfeel sick, like all these kind
of things on a mind, body andsoul level.
And then for me, support iseverything I always offer, like
unconditional love and unlimitedtech support, because I think
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love heals and I think supportis everything when you're going
through such a difficult time.
So that's pretty much myprocess and we do lots of check
ins, of course.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So so how do you actually you know what I'm going
to ask you a different question.
My question, my next question,is well, what is your routine,
now that you are sort of on theother side, what's actually what
?
What do you do in order to keepeverything balanced?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
and spiritual aspects , because that is the foundation
.
You know, and when you areunder a lot of stress and you
can find, like I said, you canfind peace in the chaos and you
learn that power, then that cannever be taken away from you
because you can't control theexternal factors, you can only
control the inside.
So I still make a lot of timeto practice my meditation, my
breathing, watching my thoughtsif they're getting to a point
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where they feel really fearfuland overwhelming.
And nutrition for me is like mypassion, my love.
So it's very easy for me to eatlike healthy foods and keep a
good gut microbiome, which meanslike really making sure I'm not
indulging in sugar, becausethat's like the biggest trigger
for gut dysbiosis and alsohormonal imbalances, just it's
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causes so much inflammation.
So I eat mostly like a glutenfree diet and again, this is not
for everybody, but it's justwhat works for me.
Everyone has their own unique,you know, diet and what works
for them.
But yeah, I just I practice alot of gratitude, I eat well, I
exercise, I try to connect withnature.
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I think that's where my powerlies.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, I think what I'm hearing is like that.
You know, the, the, the multi,the multi approach.
Now I think that you know I'mnot sure if you agree with me
but I feel like the, you know,healing and looking at gut
health and looking at your liverand looking at, you know, your
physicality, is something that'sfairly new in the Western world
(14:48):
.
You know, two or three or fouryears ago I wouldn't have heard
about gut health and theconnection, mind-body connection
to that.
Um, what do you, what?
What do you?
Why do you think that is nowthat this is now becoming a huge
topic of conversation?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
yeah, I think it's really sad that it's only now,
because your gut is 70% of yourimmune system, which is a very
big portion, and so muchhormonal activity happens in the
gut.
But why it's happening now is afew reasons.
One, there were a lot ofinfluencers like me that started
openly talking about it.
(15:30):
Like I started a YouTube pagein 2015, being like, hey, I'm
Shaz and nobody knows what'swrong with me, but I have these
symptoms and I'm going to sharemy experience and that's kind of
how, like my business started.
And so many people commentedlike I have those symptoms too
and you know.
All that kind of stuff and guthealth really started trending,
(15:51):
to be honest, not just becauseof me, but because a lot of
people started opening up andbeing honest about it.
And I do think our generation,as they're getting younger,
being having more freedom tospeak without feeling so fearful
, so I think that helps.
We have a lot more ability tosay what we need to say and
share this information oversocial media.
(16:11):
But also the way we grew up isvery important to analyze.
You know, we were a generationthat grew up on a lot of candy
and it doesn't matter where youlive, we all somehow had the
same childhood.
Like we all ate Dunkaroos, weall had Gushers, all you know
what I mean.
We all had Dairy Queen andMcDonald's and all the things,
(16:33):
which is fine, you know.
But I think we were also overprescribed antibiotics.
A lot Like back then if you hadan ear infection, antibiotics.
If you had a little bit of asore throat, antibiotics like
there was no hesitation on giventhe antibiotics, and that
heavily damages the gut.
And then not only that, we area generation that has a lot of
(16:53):
depression, a lot of anxiety,and that requires a lot more
medication.
We are very much forced thebirth control pill again, which
is a huge distributor for guthealth, you know.
So there's a lot of reasons whythe gut is more damaged in
general, because there are a lotof older generations that are
like what is gluten-free.
(17:13):
I've eaten bread my whole lifeand had never had a stomach
issue.
So I think it's a generationalthing and that we're
experiencing more gut issues andthat we have the ability to
speak on social media and andinternet to share what we're
suffering with yeah, you knowit's funny because I am a I'm of
your mother's generation.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, so.
I think one of the things that,um, I can say about that is we
did not learn to advocate forourselves.
We, we are a generation of.
If the doctor says a, you don'tquestion the doctor, you do a,
even if you're like I'm not, I'mnot sure.
Like I'm at the point with mydoctor now where I go and I say,
(17:56):
okay, this is what's happening,I think this is what I need,
and she just does a couple ofchecks and balances and she's
like here okay, yeah, you'reright, uh, but when I was your
age, if my doctor said to methis, this and this, yeah, like
I was prescribed tetracyclinefor acne, now that's like, if
anybody knows now whattetracycline does, it kills
(18:19):
everything and you're like good,bad, not.
Yes, terrible.
Yeah, that's still beingprescribed, by the way yeah, you
know it's so funny because I Ididn't know that because I was
on the birth control at time.
We were not told that.
Oh, by the way when you're onthat, oh, by the way, when
you're on birth control, by theway, your pills don't you're,
and you're on antibiotics, yourpills don't work.
Be nice if someone said thatexactly.
(18:41):
Yeah, I suffered with so manyyeast infections and I didn't
know why.
Right, yeah, and it was becauseof, you know, being on
tetracycline being on.
I shouldn't have even been onthe pill if I was on
tetracycline.
I think that's right.
You know now that I'm thinkingabout it.
Gosh, I've never actually toldanybody about that.
So, yeah, I think you know, for, for you know, women and men of
(19:03):
of my age, we were in a, in aspace where you, like, you
listen to your teachers, youlisten to the doctor, you did
not question anything because wewere brought up that way.
You don't question,quote-unquote, experts or
authority.
So I think that there is abenefit, yeah, to being of.
You know how we say oh, thisgeneration, yeah, every
(19:25):
generation, by the way says thatabout the next generation yeah,
I know, really we should all beworking together, yeah
absolutely, absolutely, and Ithink there's a lot to learn
cross-generationally fromeveryone.
But what was it?
Okay?
So what advice would you giveto people who are unsure, like
(19:50):
they're not feeling 100%, sothey're not going to the doctor.
So we're not feeling a hundredpercent, so they're not going to
the doctor, so we're nottalking about it?
I'm I'm trying to, you know,ask this.
Basically, I want to know whatdo we do when we're not feeling
(20:10):
that great and we don't want togo tell anybody or talk to
anybody but you're not feelinggood?
You know, there are people whostill are afraid to even talk to
a naturopath or a healer or adoctor or anything, because
they're they're they're afraid.
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Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, afraid, and also like money can be a big
factor too.
Um, I think the best thing,like is utilize what is free on
the internet and I know that canbe not the best advice either,
because there's so much on theinternet.
But even if you can startfinding people that you feel
called to, listening you feeltheir energy from their video
(21:07):
and you go back to what I saidis like ask the the right
questions, ask who am I, what doI need to heal you know?
What are the root causes ofwhat is causing these, these
pains?
And just starting having thatconversation with yourself and
allow yourself to receiveinformation that to come to you.
If you're afraid to go out, youknow, and I think that's like
(21:30):
the bravest thing you can do isjust be open to receiving.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So true.
So I have some actual technicalquestions to ask you yes, of
course let's talk about sugar.
Yeah, let's talk about thesugar Because, from my own
personal research andunderstanding, sugar can be the
enemy, but it's also not alwaysthe enemy, from my understanding
(21:59):
.
It depends on what kind ofsugar you're filling your body
with, because our bodies do needglucose to actually survive.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Okay.
So, firstly, sugar isn'tglucose, it's sucralose, so
that's just glucose is fruit,glucose is vegetables, you know.
So you, you need that type ofglucose to survive.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You don't need sugar to survive, but sugar, yeah,
just clarify that more, for formy listeners for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't think anyone should be afraid of sugar and I
think there's so much power inenjoying treats and, you know,
enjoying festivals and holidays,like that is not something to
be afraid of, but what youconsume on an everyday basis is
is.
It's unfortunate, but it is ourresponsibility to understand
what we're putting in our body.
(22:50):
So sugar on its own, cane sugarthere's nothing wrong with that
.
But where sugar is put in is aproblem.
Sugar is put in ketchup.
Sugar is put in barbecue sauce.
Sugar is put in teriyaki sauce.
Sugar is put in every singlegranola bar.
Sugar is put in bread.
Sugar is put in your milk.
Sugar is in everything.
(23:11):
And so they know, and you knowscience, they know that we're
it's something that's veryaddictive, like there's so many
studies that show that it's moreaddictive than cocaine, and you
know it's.
Also you also have to understand, like why is it that apples are
more expensive than gummy bears?
Right, because there's a motivethere, and it's again, it's
(23:37):
unfortunate that it's ourresponsibility, because it
shouldn't be, but that issomething that we have to be
aware of.
And again, these are thequestions you have to ask, like
why is that?
You know, why is it that gummybears are cheaper than apples,
right, and I don't think sugar'senemy.
Like I said, cane sugar is notan enemy.
But when you mix cane sugar witha hydrogenated oil like canola
(24:04):
oil, and then you add in dairythat's processed and heavily
filled with hormones, and thenyou add in some flour, that that
straight white flour with nofiber, and you say here's a
muffin, there's no nutritionalvalue in that and it's just
going to cause a lot ofinflammation.
(24:24):
But again, if you're havinglike cake on your birthday or
it's like, it's not to be afraid.
But again, it's that rule ofunderstanding Every time you eat
you're either healing yourselfor you're increasing your
inflammation.
It's every single time You'reeither healing or you're
increasing your inflammation.
That's profound, it's it's justa choice every single day.
(24:46):
And if you decrease yourinflammation to a point where
you can enjoy a treat and yourinflammation bar is not
exploding amazing.
But if your entire body is soinflamed and you just keep
eating all these things, that'swhen all these symptoms are so
persistent and they won't goaway until you decrease all that
inflammation okay, so let's goback to the difference between
(25:09):
glucose.
Yeah, glucose is what you need.
It is brain power, that's whatyou hear.
It's energy.
Yes, you know, glucose is avery complex molecule.
That is bread and that is fruitand that is vegetables.
You know, people forget thatvegetables are carbohydrates.
(25:32):
I think, like people justassume, vegetables are just like
vitamins and minerals, but,like, if you eat cucumber,
that's still brain food, that'sstill energy.
Although it's not caloric dense, it's not going to give you too
much energy.
It's still energy.
So glucose is a complexmolecule.
Sucralose is a branch ofglucose and it's just the sugar,
(25:56):
just like this fructose, whichis also another form of sugar.
And they'll try and trick you.
In the ingredient list there'slike over 20 different names for
sugar alone.
Wow, just to keep you confused.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Okay, what are the top three confusing names?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
corn syrup is like one that you would think isn't
sugar, but it is.
I mean, most people would knowcorn syrup is, but they'll,
they'll do that also.
Another thing to remember inthe ingredient list is it goes
from most to least, so if sugaris ever in the first ingredient,
then that's always somethingyou should never have, because
that means it's mostly sugar.
That's the number oneingredient.
(26:35):
Nothing, yeah, but yeah,there's sucralose, there's
fructose, I think those areprobably the biggest ones.
Um, but yeah, cane sugar is isnatural and that is how you know
it's made plant.
That's the plant cane sugar andit's just what they do.
And how they make sugar likecorn is a problem.
(26:56):
They process that a lot andthat's where they get that high
fructose corn syrup and that'svery inflammatory to the body
yeah, I, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I've also myself been hearing a lot about
inflammation, and there are somany of us who walk around we
have no idea that we're eveninflamed, until it gets to a
point where it's like whoa nowwe've got to like put the like
the emergency button becausewe've got to stop everything and
reset.
So for for, from myunderstanding, from some of the
(27:27):
readings that I've done and theresearch that I've done, like
most of us, just because of theway the world works and the way
things are now, we're alreadyinflamed.
So we like kind of like we'vegot this base level of
inflammation.
Yeah, so for those of us whoare like base level inflammation
, you know we're not really, wedon't really know if we're
inflamed or not yeah, what are,what can we do to reduce our
(27:51):
inflammation, like when we'renot in a space of, you know, 911
situation?
Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, there's definitely things like anti
inflammatory diets right, whereyou eliminate a lot of
inflammation, foods like that,the, the canola oils, the sugars
, the gluten, the processedgluten, right, the processed
food in general.
That's one of the best powersyou can give.
And I think it's hard because alot of us struggle to be
(28:23):
disciplined enough becausethere's too many temptations and
we, a lot of us, aren't trainedmentally to understand that
we're doing this to benefit usand we start to slip into victim
mentality and like, oh, like, Ihad a hard day, I deserve a
donut, like it sucks, you know,and that's fine.
But again, that's how we'retrained, so it's again it comes
(28:47):
back to that mental health.
It's like what do you want?
What is best for you, what isyour priority?
And you have to keep that inmind every time you make a
choice and remind yourself everytime I eat, I'm either cause
I'm helping my healing or I'mcausing more inflammation.
So nutrition there's.
What I do specifically is helppeople heal gut dysbiosis, which
(29:09):
is so.
That's something that's veryimportant, because if you can
heal any pathogens in the gut,like you said, yeast infections,
that's a big sign of candida.
If you have parasites or if youhave any type of symptoms that
are concerning you taking thetime to clear your gut, do a gut
cleanse or a liver cleanse,like?
I know there's a lot of tabooaround those things, but I
(29:31):
always try to remind you, like,or my clients, and remind people
that every time we eat, like Isaid, if you've been eating
inflammatory foods for years andyears and years and years,
years you think it could take onall.
It's like someone who'sconstantly being hit every
single day like how much can youtake, how much?
When are you?
When's your body going to be?
(29:51):
Like, when is it my turn tobreathe?
And have something to help mebreathe and just take a rest.
You know so.
Your gut will always need thatbecause it's constantly working
for you.
Your liver is constantlyworking for you.
All your detox organs theycrave a little bit of that
(30:11):
refresh, restart and a week ofdedication.
A month of dedication, threemonths of dedication, is nothing
compared to the years of all ofthe inflammatory foods you've,
even choices you know, yeah,it's.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It's interesting because you touched a little bit
upon, you know, the I'm gonnasay this, I'm just gonna say it
like capitalism, right, you knowwhere are we gonna spend our
like, you know where are wegonna spend the money?
How can we get?
And it's a?
It's funny because I justearlier, you know, recorded
another um, another guest, andwe ended up talking about the
(30:46):
same thing.
It just keeps coming up is, youknow, we are not a society that
is at the base level, lookingat health and as as preventative
care, absolutely yeah.
We're a society, specificallyin North America, that is really
(31:09):
more about let's just, you know, take care of the symptoms and
keep just taking care of thesymptoms.
So, you know, I have the three,the big three, the top three.
I have high blood pressure,which I've had since I was in my
twenties.
I have recently, in the lastyear, been diagnosed with type
(31:30):
two diabetes and highcholesterol, which I know are
both things that I can take careof and I'm beginning to work on
it.
But I, you know, I asked mydoctor.
I said, okay, I'm well awarethat diabetes, especially if I'm
getting it in at this age, inmy fifties, is something that I
can take care of.
I know there's also the wholemenopause thing.
That's a whole other thing,that's a whole nother show.
(31:51):
It is yeah, you know.
So when I asked her okay, sowhat can I do so that I can get
off these?
I don't want to stay on thesepills.
I know I need them right nowbecause my levels are now at
like a 9-1-1 level, so I need tomake sure I get that down quick
.
And she said yeah, you'reprobably not going to be able to
come off those pills yeah,right, I'm like, but just
(32:15):
everyone else out there sayingit's possible, so I don't get it
right.
Yeah, so what do you think aboutthat?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Again, you have to understand that, like the, the,
they don't get trained innutrition, they're not trained
on a holistic level, and that'sokay.
Like we said, we need them inemergency situations.
We have to understand theirstrengths.
They study disease and medicine.
They always have a medicine,that's for sure, and that's also
that's how they make theirmoney and, again, respectable.
But if you are looking for thatholistic, that preventative,
(32:49):
that healing, it's just.
This is why I extend my serviceand this is where you're gonna
have to understand who do I goto for help?
How do I understand how tonourish my body, to decrease my
insulin levels, to bring myblood pressure back down?
What do I need to do on aconsistent level?
Because, again, people arelooking.
(33:10):
When they come to me, I'malways like I'm not your quick
fix girl.
Okay, I am not.
You're not going to come to meand get a special supplement, a
special pill, like it does takework.
That's why I always say it'sgoing through dark to get to the
light, because you have tocompletely reprogram yourself,
you have to sit in thediscomfort, you have to feel an
(33:31):
uncomfortable symptom, eventhough you are working so hard,
even though you're exercising,you're eating all the right
things and you haven't dropped apound in a week.
That's that's how it's going togo.
That's healing, that's goingthrough the dark to get to the
light.
It's trusting that process.
So it's it's hard.
It's hard, it's very, verytriggering.
(33:51):
It's very difficult.
Like you said, people wantwhat's comfortable, they want to
surface, but there are so manypeople out there and there are
lots of, lots of things you cando nutritionally.
Go inward, ask your, go inward,ask your body, ask your body
what it needs.
I talk to your own cells andsay, like what do?
What do we need?
What do we need cells?
(34:12):
You know like the doctors arenot helping you anymore, so you
help yourself and you.
You reach out for support whenyou need it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
you know I love that you said that, because I think
you know when we're, when we'retalking, to know listeners who
are just maybe delving into thisworld of holistic healing and
holistic health and the wholegamut of of looking at more of a
natural lifestyle, is the powerof connecting and listening to
(34:43):
your body.
Yes, yes, like literally askingokay, because your body, you're
right, your body will tell youif you're willing to listen.
It's not Lulu, it's not crazy.
It's called that that you knowintuition that's going to tell
you and speak to you of what'sgoing to work.
I just did that the other dayabout something.
(35:03):
I can't remember what it was.
Oh today while I was cooking.
I wish I remembered, so I couldshare, that I was asking my
body about something.
My ear started ringing and I'mlike oh, the guides are knocking
on my door.
What do you need to tell me?
Yes, I thought about this.
Oh, I should remember this frommy conversation with Shanaz,
and I can't remember it now, ofcourse, but I do want to.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I do want to emphasize that, yes, ask
yourself, but you should never Idon't believe anyone should
heal alone, because we'restrongest in a community, we're
stronger when we work togetherand, again, the way our system
is set up is to to divide us.
So I do believe that everyonehas someone that could guide
them, that could help them ontheir healing journey.
(35:46):
No one can heal you.
You heal you, but I do feelthat there's definitely someone
that's always a good fit for youout there that can help, guide
you and support you on yourhealing journey for sure 100%.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'm glad that you said that, because there it's
not possible.
Honestly, from my ownexperience it's not possible
because you don't know what youdon't know Right.
You know I'm not a nutritionist, nutritionalist, I'm not a gut
health expert, I'm not a liverexpert, you know, I'm not even
like a somatic expert.
So to release energy from mybody, I'm not an expert in that.
(36:21):
I had to learn to do breathwork to start to understand.
Oh, you know, I went to anenergetic healer, so there's a
lot of it is important.
You have a team.
You know, even like yourmedical doctor needs to be part
of your team.
You know your naturopathicdoctor, your, your, whoever your
experts are in your corner tohelp, because I, you just know
(36:44):
there's something's not working.
Yeah, that's for sure.
I think we all know whensomething's not working and when
something is physically, evenmentally, we know it's a matter
of of just asking for help,which many of us have a lot of
difficulty doing.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I am one of those people scared to pay for this,
so I can't pay for this.
And then that come.
I always am like make sure youknow that you know your worth,
if you feel like I'm the goodfit for you because money is
just energy and if it means thatwe can exchange and you live
your best self and then youvibrate higher and you attract
more money.
Like that's how it would workfor you.
(37:39):
But it's really hard.
It takes a lot of strength toget to the point of being like
okay, I I'm willing to investinto myself and I'm trusting.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
That's a big one, especially for women.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's like we'llinvest.
And sometimes it's sosubconscious you don't even
realize you're doing it.
You don't realize how you'reputting everybody first, because
there's a little bit of likeyou get something from that too,
right.
Even realize you're doing it.
You don't realize how you'reputting everybody first, because
there's a little bit of likeyou get something from that too,
right yeah when you're giving,then you're like oh, you know,
(38:11):
I'm spending time with my kids,I'm giving to my kids.
Oh, my husband, oh, I'm givingto all my mother and my
mother-in-law and everybody andthen all of a sudden, you're
like, oh, it's 10 o'clock atnight, I ain't got time to
invest in myself now.
I need to go to bed so that Ican rest, and everybody else
tomorrow?
Yes, exactly A challenge, and Iknow you have two young ones.
I was just before we startedrecording.
(38:32):
I was like I don't know how youdo all this and still work at
home and get it all done.
But I can tell by what you'resharing.
It's like you are ensuring thatyou are taking care of your
mental health and you knowpairing that with your physical
health and your spiritual health.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And it's not just a one.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Like I said before, it's not a one pronged approach
and I'm really glad that youhave those conversations with.
You know the clients who say,well, oh, I don't have the money
, cause a lot of times, we knowa lot of times, sometimes it
truly is about the money and alot of times it is about the
value.
And it's not that, it's notyour value, it's the value you
(39:16):
see in yourself.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, and fear.
Fear of not it not working,fear of you know you feel like
you're always going to be stuckin the symptoms and position
you're going to be in, rightLike, look, look at the power of
what your doctor told you andhow it imprints you consciously,
subconsciously, saying itdoesn't matter what you do,
you're going to be on thesepills forever.
So now imagine you invest$1,000 into someone that says we
(39:41):
can heal nutritionally, butyour subconscious is still like,
well, I don't think this isgonna work, because doctor said
I'm gonna be on pills forever.
So that's, that's the power andthat's the fear and that's what
we have.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
We have all those imprints yes, indeed, and you
know, it's funny because there'sa level of belief that you have
to have subconsciously.
Even if I say to you no, shedoesn't believe that you can
help me, and the little voice islike no, she can't, no, she
can't, no, she can't.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, that's how it's just again going through the
dark to get to the light.
It's you facing yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's how I that's powerful, because it's not just
about your gut health, no, it isfacing yourself, and I'm glad
that you're saying that, becausea doctor won't say, okay, well,
you got to get your emotions incheck, right?
Because, like, if you don'thave your emotions in check, I
(40:41):
can give you all this medication.
Nothing's going to work, right?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You're willing to say listen, okay, I get that you
have this, but do you see thatthere's all of this buildup that
has happened over years, allthe trauma that you've held in,
all all of the on the thingsthat you've never communicated,
that you should perhapscommunicate and say and hold in
your body, that impacts.
It's not just the eating.
(41:06):
I think that's what I want toget at before you know, as we
come to a close, this is whatyou've been saying the whole
time it's not just the eating.
It is, and but it's not theonly thing yeah, well, it can't
be.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
When we are spiritual being inside a physical body,
how can we only focus on thephysical?
That doesn't make any sense.
It's we have to focus on all ofthose aspects to to heal for
sure.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Amazing.
Well, she knows this has beensuch a fabulous conversation.
It was so nice talking to you,but how can we find you aside
from the miracles directory?
How can people connect with youand get your magic?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
yes, okay, so my name is shanaz, but I mostly go by
shaz, which is s-h-a-z, so allof my platforms are shazness
wellness, um, and I have awebsite shazness wellness.
Instagram.
Shazness wellness.
Youtube.
Shazness wellness it's allaround tiktok.
Shazness wellness.
You can find me on shaznessWellness Instagram.
Shazness Wellness.
Youtube.
Shazness Wellness it's allaround TikTok.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Shazness Wellness.
You can find me on ShaznessWellness Amazing.
And, by the way, I've seen alot of your Instagram posts, a
lot of your reels.
So for those of you who are,you know, wanting to step into
the water, tip your toe and youcan find her on the miracles
directory, but you can alsocheck her out on instagram.
I love your reels.
I love when the kids are in thereels.
They're, they're so cute.
Yeah, you want to see her kidscheck it out, because they're
(42:39):
adorable so thank you again somuch.
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