July 3, 2025 • 44 mins
What if the path to becoming whole begins with loving yourself first? Master healer NiyeNenu White reveals powerful truths about self-healing that transcend conventional wellness practices.
"Healing is love," NiyeNenu states simply, yet this profound insight opens doorways to understanding how authentic healing works across multiple dimensions—physical, emotional, and spiritual. As a Reiki master, herbalist, acupuncturist, and colon hydro therapist with over a decade of experience guiding transformational healing journeys, NiyeNenu brings unique wisdom to the conversation.
We explore the critical distinction between "niceness" (doing what's expected of you) and "kindness" (actions rooted in truth). This distinction becomes the cornerstone of authentic healing work—how can we genuinely heal others if we haven't learned to nurture ourselves first? NiyeNenu shares her personal journey of self-discovery following her divorce at 28, describing the sometimes painful but necessary process of breaking down false identities to rebuild based on truth.
The conversation takes fascinating turns through the metaphysical aspects of healing as NiyeNenu explains her gift of somatic empathy—physically feeling others' pain in her own body—and how combining healing modalities creates more effective results. She illuminates how all physical ailments begin as energetic disruptions, challenging us to recognize ourselves as spiritual beings occupying physical vessels.
Perhaps most powerfully, NyeNenu addresses the universal question about finding one's purpose: "That purpose is generated from the confidence of knowing who you are. If you don't know who you are, the confidence is shaky." This perspective shifts our quest from external searching to internal discovery through self-love. Ready to transform your relationship with yourself and unlock deeper healing potential? This episode offers both inspiration and practical wisdom for your journey.
If you're looking for a healing hero OR you are a healing hero and want to be listed on our directory click here to start your journey.
Don't forget to follow us on Social:
Instagram
Facebook
TikTok
YouTube
LinkedIn
If you enjoyed this podcast please like, comment and share with your community. Let's spread and create miracles together.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where
we gather to explore the art andscience of holistic healing,
uncovering the secrets to ahappier, healthier you.
I'm your host, nina Ganguly,and together we will delve into
the intriguing world of holistichealing, delving into the
mind-body connection, ancientwisdom and natural remedies to
(00:27):
the mind-body connection,ancient wisdom and natural
remedies.
Get ready for enlighteningstories, thought-provoking
expert interviews and practicaltips that will empower you to
unlock your true potential andembrace a vibrant, balanced life
.
Whether you're an experiencedwellness enthusiast or simply
curious about the power ofhealing, join us on this
exhilarating journey as we sharethe wisdom and insights that
(00:47):
can truly transform your life.
It's time to embark on a voyagetowards a happier, healthier
you.
So, without further ado, let'sdive into the captivating world
of Healers Talk Healing.
Welcome back to Healers TalkHealing.
On this episode, we welcome theincredible Nye Nienu White,
(01:09):
founder of Healing Hands, oasisWellness Center and apothecary,
reiki master, herbalist,acupuncturist, colon
hydrotherapist and publishedauthor.
For over a decade, nye Nienuhas guided individuals on deep
healing journeys of mind, bodyand soul, from her early work in
(01:29):
total body corrective therapyto creating her own organic
Reiki-infused herbal oils.
Her approach blends ancientEastern medicine, energy healing
and plant-based wellness.
She believes the body is wiseand is capable of healing itself
when given the rightenvironment.
In this transformationalconversation, we explore
(01:52):
Ninenu's self-love journey, theenergetic roots of physical pain
and how modalities like Reiki,acupuncture and herbal medicine
unlock new paths to balance andwell-being.
Whether you're seekinginspiration, clarity or tools to
support your own healing, thisepisode is a must listen.
(02:14):
Oh my goodness, I am super,super excited to have the
wonderful Nye Nenu White on withus.
I think I said it right after.
I repeated it four times and Iapologize if I did not say it
correctly, but it is so excitingto have you on here.
(02:34):
And for those of you who tunedin to the meditation on July
June, we're not.
We're not in July yet June.
You were wonderful and thankyou so much for facilitating
that for us.
And if you haven't joined theglobal meditation for wellness,
(02:55):
then please hop onto our siteand check it out and join.
It doesn't cost anything.
We do it on the first Saturdayof every month.
But I digress because I'mactually really excited to talk
to you.
And first question I asked allof our guests is what does
healing mean to you, or what'syour definition of healing?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Okay, healing really coincides with self-healing.
It is all inclusive, you have.
We're more than just physicalbodies, right?
So we're physical beings,emotional beings, spiritual
beings.
So healing encompasses morethan three dimensions, in my
(03:40):
opinion.
So healing is complete,holistic and you know, I guess,
understanding how the body worksfrom every aspect of life in
general.
So healing is love.
I mean, if you want to justbring it down to the simplest
word, healing is love, and we'reeven talking about self-love,
(04:04):
you know, like that's thefoundation of loving others
around you as well.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So and let's, let's go deep into that little bit,
into that conversation ofself-love, because I think many
of us struggle with self-loveand many of us, I think, we do
it like we'll sit at a surfacelevel.
You know self-love, have abubble bath, you know, go to a
(04:29):
spa, get our hair done, which,yes, is taking care of yourself
and loving yourself.
But there's a deeperconversation that I think we
miss sometimes around what itactually means, what that is in,
you know, and a lot of it doesstart with, I think, a healing
(04:50):
journey, and I'm going to talkspecifically about women, you
know.
You know we, we, we give somuch of ourselves out there, and
I don't think there's anythingwrong with that.
That's, you know, part of, Ithink, our, our, our nature is
to, to be those nurturers, to begiving, but we're always
(05:12):
missing out over here, righthere, you know.
And then, when we begin to lookin here, something, something,
sometimes something, somethinggoes on.
So for for you, you know, whenyou're talking about those that
demand the dimensions and goingdeeper, what is your
(05:34):
prescription for self-love?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
that has changed so many times over the years
because I'm still defining it.
But, um, I want to say one ofthe biggest things that I've
learned up until my journey nowis that I can't really give to
those around me if I'm depleted,right.
So when I thought I was puttingmyself out there giving, giving
(06:00):
, giving, giving, but I wasn'tdoing the same for me, then I
had to re-look at all of thoseinteractions and see was it
really genuine?
Because if self-love is themeasuring stick for what you can
give others, then that waspretty.
It was an interestingself-reflection like, wow, was
(06:21):
that really empty?
Was that really pure from myheart if I didn't even have it
for me?
So I know we've all heard loveis kind, right?
No one says love is nice, right, nice and kind are two
different things.
Niceties are what you feel areexpected of you, are expected of
(06:42):
you.
Kindness is rooted in truth andI had to look back at the truth
that all these things that Ithought I was doing for people
out of love, out of niceness,was not rooted in truth.
It wasn't something that Itruly that resonated with me,
because I didn't.
How can it resonate with youwhen you don't know you when you
(07:02):
don't spend time to love you,right?
So it's like I'm in thisjourney of really breaking down.
I guess you call it alchemy.
Alchemy is break, decompositionand then recomposition, right so
I'm breaking down who I thoughtI was and then rebuilding who I
(07:25):
am, and all of that is rootedin self love, rooted in truth.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So there is just like , oh, so many beautiful
soundbites in that.
What you just shared, which islike kindness, is truth.
And discovering the truth frommy own experience because I can
only really speak about mine isnot always easy or pretty, yeah,
(07:52):
pretty, pretty, not pretty, notpretty.
The parts that you know thatyou so nicely hide from yourself
not just others, but fromyourself is is something you
(08:12):
know it's called shadow work,and then there's inner child
work.
There's all these labels forall the works and they're all
very important.
And I think the benefit of thisconversation is what I'm
hearing you say is like that'swhere you want to go.
You want to go and be in thoseplaces and not, well, duck and
(08:36):
hide.
You know, duck and hide fromthe truth, like how can you be
kind to others if you don't knowhow to be kind to yourself?
Like from a true, authenticplace, I say I've said the same
thing in the past.
You know there's that sayinglike love your, love your
neighbor as you love yourself.
But how do you do that if youare not truly loving yourself?
(08:59):
And even at the question of,sometimes I question you.
You know, as a mother, you knowwe say we have unconditional
love for our children.
But do we?
You know, if you're, if, ifthere's a challenge of having
that unconditional love for selfand I know moms out there will
be like these are fighting words, but I'm coming from that
(09:22):
authentic place right now, afterdoing work and still doing the
work by the way, fyi, the worknever ends but doing the work is
seeing that.
Wait a minute.
I developed these relationshipsbased on who I didn't want to be
, who I did want to be, versuswho they needed me to be in
(09:47):
those moments, and if I wastruly coming from a place of
authenticity, that would havebeen so much more easier.
Not saying that, you know I,you know I wasn't going to
traumatize my children.
I was not a mother before.
I have no idea.
You know that that whole thingis a whole let's just that's a
(10:07):
whole different bowl of cherries.
But this conversation, I think,is so important to have, and for
women at any age, and oh mygosh, yes, I can say, the
younger you are, the easier itis.
I don't think so.
I think it's easy to say whenI'm, you know, on the other end
of being the young one, becausewe still have to have all of
(10:29):
those incredible I'm going tosay incredible lessons,
experiences, learnings, in orderto get to a place to say, oh,
yeah, okay, this is where I,this is where things started.
So you said you know, you weresaying there were many different
iterations of you going throughand, you know, beginning to
(10:53):
develop this relation withrelationship with yourself.
Where did it start for you?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
um, I guess you could say, the actualization of
seeing myself started after mydivorce and when I was 28.
So that year was the year Ireally recognized that I'm not
(11:21):
who I want to be, and I wasrooted in spirituality, asking
higher powers like why am I here?
So that journey is like itbegan at 28.
And 10 years ago.
I'm 38 this year, so-.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Or just by the way.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, but it wasn't an
easy journey because it was alot of.
I like to call them pies oftruth that were thrown in my
face.
Throw pies in your face, right,but they were truth pies.
So it was like delicious but ithurt.
(12:05):
It was like delicious, but ithurt, especially when, when,
when your internal desire is toknow yourself, it's easier to
accept the truth.
Right, I mean, it's hard still,but it's easier to accept the
truth.
But I also just want tohighlight that, even though
(12:25):
we're focusing on women, right,I like to make it more
metaphysical and say this is afeminine principle.
Yeah, let's talk about that,right?
So it's not something thatwomen just do.
It's something that women andmen do because we both have the
feminine, divine feminine andthe divine masculine in us.
So I don't want men to bedeterred like oh, here goes
women again talking aboutself-love, and I agree with you
(12:47):
let's be inclusive Everybody ifyou are a soul, a human soul,
right, you need self-love to getto the next level.
Actually, in this level of myjourney right now, my fiance has
been the greatest teacher withself-love.
I watch how he loves on himselfand.
(13:07):
I'm like I want that too.
So it's like we just just likehow a baby does when they're,
when they're growing up, theywatch their parents, they watch
their peers, they watch theirteachers and they're like that,
is that right?
Is that the right thing to do?
Is that?
No, that's wrong.
Okay, I can't do that right.
We're constantly, you know,exploring, giving, taking,
trying this out, experimentinghere, but we look to the people
(13:31):
that we trust around us, whoexude what we want in our lives,
right?
So this 10-year journey has,even though it's only been 10
years 10 years is short it feelslike it's been happening for a
lifetime.
I do believe in past lives whenI encountered my past lives
through past life regressions.
I have been on this journey formultiple lifetimes.
(13:53):
It's just in this lifetime Irecognize, at the age of 28,
that I'm like whoa, no, I got toget back to it.
I'm almost there.
I'm almost there, right?
So it's it's.
It's an arduous journey, butit's so rewarding because when
you can really break down all ofthose walls and expectations of
other societal expectationsmotherly, parent, parental
(14:15):
expectations, friendship, it allthose expectations and really
get down to the core of who youare, which I'm not there yet
Right, remember, this is this isa lifetime more than lifetime
journey, right, when you startreally getting that peephole of
like, oh, this is who I am, ooh,that confidence sets and
(14:35):
everybody's out there likewhat's my purpose?
What's my purpose?
That purpose is generated fromthe confidence of knowing who
you are.
If you don't know who you are,the confidence is shaky.
But all of that's rooted inloving yourself.
You have to accept yourself,love yourself.
You know what I mean.
So it's a beautiful journey andI believe that all humans, all
(15:00):
souls, all spirits are trying toreach that highest level of
consciousness, to integrate backto the great.
I am consciousness, right.
So, that's why it's more thanjust a lifetime's work, it is
multiple lifetimes.
Each time we come back, we'renext step closer, next step
closer, next step closer.
I mean, I got one more, onemore iteration.
(15:21):
It's just filling in my heartcoming back one more time and
then after that I'm like got itright.
Integrated with source energy,you know.
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I, I, totally, I get that, I, I, I do, I get that
there.
You know, like I said, it's,it's an, it's a never ending
journey until it is, and wedon't always necessarily know or
have the insight to when thatis.
And I loved what you said aboutmy purpose, because so many of
us walk around in this worldlike why am I here, what is it
(15:57):
all about?
And there's so many differentperspectives on why we are here.
I'm very in alignment with whatyou're talking about, you know,
and so for, as you were sharing, I was thinking, huh, okay,
I've done past, past liferegressions, but what I've
(16:21):
learned for myself, that myjourney has been all about
forgiveness, the that, that,that the road to self love for
me has been through forgiveness.
I've had some.
We could go real woo, woo and Icould tell you who I saw and
who I was.
And maybe that's for anothertime, or maybe I could, I don't
(16:42):
know.
People will be like, hmm,you'll cray cray, nina, but you
know, in one iteration of a pastlife I think I'm just going to
share, and if I, if you know, itis what it is.
But there's a big one forforgiveness, which is I was
Judas and so being trust me,that that took a long time for
(17:02):
me to digest and work throughand understand and I was like,
come on, now, this is just mybrain doing dumb stuff.
Because, just for those outthere who have heard about past
life regressions and maybe arethinking about it, it does
sometimes feel like your brainis playing tricks on you, like
(17:25):
is this real?
But then you flip to anotherone and you flip to another one
and you're thinking it's yourimagination and your facilitator
is walking along with you going.
I can see what you see and so Ijust I understand, just like
you understand, like whereyou're, what the direction is,
(17:45):
and I get for me what mydirection is.
And every time I'm working withanother healer for myself.
You know, being a healer iswonderful and I get to be that
space for others, but we needhealers in our lives too, like
coaches need coaches, doctorsneed doctors, teachers need
teachers we all need, you know,just that other person who's
there to help guide us along theway.
(18:06):
And I really just the reasonI'm sharing this with you is
because what you're sharing withme is landing and resonating so
strongly about the truth andthe authenticity and the
self-love gives you your purpose.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You know, I say this consistently, it's all an inside
job.
We need to well, I'm going tosay need to.
You can do whatever you want.
It's your journey, but we needto stop looking out there
outside of us for what's goingon in here, outside of us, for
what's going on in here.
And it is a wonderfullyinteresting, crazy journey that
(18:54):
takes a minute.
And there's one thing that yousaid that I agree with as well
there's got to be a willingnessto do the discovery.
There's got to be thatwillingness to be brave and
courageous, to walk, and youknow cause it will.
Some things will knock you down, some things you discover about
yourself, and then there's justlife that just happens and gets
(19:15):
in the way of yourself-ddiscovery and you're like,
wait a minute, I thought I wasa, uh, you know a higher self of
myself, and then you just findyourself being your old self and
things happen and give yourselfa break.
Um, but this, this, this isjust so wonderful.
So thank you for giving usthose nuggets, but I want to ask
(19:39):
you about you and your journeyof what had you get into the
healing arts and all thedifferent things that you do
that we shared earlier in yourintroduction, because I find
them all so fascinating.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Okay, shared earlier in your introduction, because I
find them all so fascinating.
Okay, so, since I was a kidreally young, I would say maybe
six, seven my aunt and my momused to give me a few dollars
here and there to massage theirfeet, right.
I've always been a touchy-feelyperson and as I got older I
learned that it's somaticempathy.
And for those who don't knowwhat somatic empathy is, is the
(20:24):
empathic person who feels orheals through feeling Meaning.
I like imagine watching a TVshow and the person gets stabbed
in the gut.
I Can feel.
It's like oh right, so I haveto be mindful of the things I
watch, the things that I hear,because if the minute I
(20:46):
visualize it in my head, it'salmost as if it's happening to
me.
Oh wow, I can feel it right.
So when I'm, when I'm workingwith my clients, I can actually
feel their pain.
Before they tell me where it is.
If I'm palpating on the body,I'm like, oh, you got sharp back
(21:06):
pain.
They're like yeah, how'd youknow?
I feel that's right.
So somatic empathy I've had itsince a kid, before I even
understood it was.
I used to get teased, calledwhat?
Do they call them?
A hypochondriac?
Ah yeah.
So all for all myhypochondriacs out there, if you
are a healer and an empath,just know that you're feeling
(21:30):
everybody around you,everybody's pain, everybody's
emotions, everybody's joy, joy,all of these random emotions
just kind of flooding you, andwhen you don't know yourself
it's hard to distinguish who areyou.
Why am I feeling all this stuff?
Confusion breeds from notknowing yourself, especially
when you feel so deeply right.
(21:51):
So I've been healing since Iwas a kid.
Um, I grew up in the church.
I was deemed a prayer warrior,like just the like.
I told you, if I can visualizeit, I'm manifesting it.
I'm also a manifester in thehuman design as well.
These like really sensitiveskills.
(22:19):
I guess in the psychology worldthey will call them highly
sensitive persons, hsps.
I don't know if you've heard ofthat before.
So, being so sensitive, I haveto really, really I'm motivated
to know myself, because if Idon't, I'm confused and I can't
really help anybody around me,right?
So the healing aspect startedwith trying to help others, you
(22:40):
know, through expectation, butthen discovering that I need to
know me first so I can helpothers more efficiently.
So as I got older, through theyears, just from my own physical
injuries, you know, focusing onthe here and now and the
present, because no one reallyteaches you the spirituality at
(23:01):
a young age, right, you feel it,but you don't fully consciously
understand it.
So I'm stuck in the physicalathletic injure myself.
I get frozen shoulder, kneeissues, tilted hip.
You, you know all that kind ofstuff.
Find a fascial stretchtherapist and she heals me of my
(23:23):
physical ailments.
I'm like I want that.
So I get certified, I cancertify as a fascial search
therapist, okay, and that is thestart of me soliciting my
healing services.
I learned really quick that mytouch is different than other
(23:43):
people's touch because of thetype of healer that I am.
I didn't know that in themeantime, right.
So I'm doing fascial stretchtherapy, stretching people out.
They're seeing results, likeinstantaneously, immediately,
but then deeper healing withinand I'm like, why?
So then I learn and discoverabout this thing called Reiki,
(24:04):
and that was probably like 2017.
When I find out about it, I alsolearned about past life
regressions at the same time.
So my Reiki practitioner wasalso a past life regression
facilitator and I decided to dothe past life regression first
(24:24):
because I was feeling feelingsof abandonment and like I'm just
going to be left alone.
I'm like I don't have thoseissues in this lifetime.
What is what's going on?
So after doing research, Idiscovered that maybe it's
remnants of a past life that'sseeping into this life, and
that's always been my motivationto do past life regressions in
(24:48):
conjunction with my healingjourney.
So I go do past life regression, find out who I was, could not
accept it, but recognize thatthat person that I was lived a
lonely life, didn't have anychildren, no siblings, and died
an old, lonely life.
So, those energies were seepinginto this lifetime, preventing
(25:12):
me from really connecting withpeople when I'm healing, because
I'm feeling a sense ofabandonment.
Once I was able to kind of talkto that version of me and let
it go, those feelings dissipated, you know another notch on the
journey to move forward.
So I get certified as a Reikipractitioner level two.
(25:32):
I went in for level one.
The practitioner was likeyou're already at level two.
I went in for level one.
The practitioner was likeyou're already at level two, you
probably should be a master.
But let me just go throwingthat in for free, we're just
going to certify you a level two.
So I get certified level tworight off the spot.
I start offering that servicealong with my fascial stretch
therapy.
(25:53):
But the type of healer that I am, it's hard for me to piecemeal
my services because I look at my, my abilities, as a tool belt
and as I'm doing fascial stretchtherapy, reiki is like my
locator spell.
That's.
That's how I always identifiedit.
So before I begin the stretch,I I lay my hands on people and
(26:15):
I'm like OK, because of thesomatic empathy Right I can feel
, and then I start the fascialstretch therapy.
So it was hard for me toseparate the services in the
beginning.
Going forward I startedseparating the services but just
focusing on Reiki alone andkind of not doing fascial
(26:36):
stretch therapy to see peoplewho, just you know, want Reiki.
I was doing it long distancetoo and that's what really built
up my confidence of offeringReiki as a separate services for
those who want it.
If you want fascial stretchtherapy, you're still going to
get Reiki the minute I put myhands on you.
I mean I know I can turn it off, but why would I want to do
(26:57):
that when that helps me be amore efficient fascial stretch
therapist?
So I just offered it separatefor those who don't want to be
stretched and just wantenergetic healing.
A few years later I getcertified as a master, learn how
to attune others, and I'mactually.
I got my certification throughPhoenix College and it was set
(27:18):
up so well.
Like it was four weekends andjust I'm an educator.
For those who don't know, I'vetaught for five years.
My mom had a home childcarecenter for 30 plus years.
I helped out in that.
So teaching I'm a natural bornteacher.
That is like a passion of mine.
Teaching I'm a natural bornteacher.
That is like a passion of mine.
So when I saw the certificationprocess being taught in that
(27:40):
environment, like school style,um, it really resonated with me.
Um, to the point where I'm like, oh I can, I can definitely
reattune people.
This is amazing, right, um, bigup to phoenix college, um,
after becoming a Reiki master, Istarted teaching myself
(28:00):
acupressure.
Those of you who don't know whatacupressure is it is just like
acupuncture, just no needles areinvolved.
You might use like a blunt toolor your fingertips I use my
fingertips and I use the sameapp that all of the other
traditional Chinese medicineschools teach use for their
(28:21):
students.
I didn't know that.
I learned that by happenstance.
So, by teaching myself that andbecause I have somatic empathy,
I can be an efficientacupressure with fascial stretch
therapy, even started pullingback on fascial stretch therapy,
focusing on acupressure andonly incorporating fascial
(28:41):
stretch therapy when necessary.
Because all ailments, alldisruptions of energy start in
the energetic space.
Remember, we're spirit beingsfirst occupying this physical
sleeve, right?
So if everything originatesspiritually, then I'm going to
(29:03):
focus on the meridian lines, thechakras, everything that's
energetic base first, to see ifthat unwinds physically and
whatever's left.
Then I'll tackle with thephysical.
Though that has been like the Iguess you say the gist of my
healing journey today.
I'm also a colon hydrotherapist.
(29:25):
For those who don't know ifthat is, um, you know it is
about that right.
Think about an enema on 100.
The difference the enema isgravity fed, whereas a colonic
is pressurized water.
So it becomes more efficientwhen you do a colonic.
(29:45):
And because I'm a certifiedcolon hydrotherapist, I work
currently work at the more cleancolon hydrotherapy.
Big ups to Elizabeth Joseph,the owner there.
She's also my friend, cleancolon hydrotherapy.
Big ups to elizabeth josephs,the owner of theirs.
She's also my friend.
Um, we, um.
I actually brought it to herattention to offer my energetic
(30:07):
services during colonics,because water is life and we are
70 water.
So we know that you can speaklife into water.
Water holds memory, right.
So if I'm working the energeticforce field of your being while
water is going in and out ofyou, man, that just makes the
energy work more efficient,right.
(30:28):
So I I actually build up myskills and efficiency.
Hence the.
You know um the guidedmeditation, um doing colonics
and reiki, doing colonics andacupressure at the same time.
So reiki is a service that Ioffer during the colonics and I
always start off with like a sixto seven minute guided
meditation of opening thechakras, which allows the person
(30:52):
it's self-account.
When you sit by that tree andyou are focusing on every chakra
, spinning and opening it, youare making yourself open to the
things you desire.
Most of us want to manifest anddesire, but we don't open
ourselves.
So, I truly believe, like all mymeditations, have that opening
(31:13):
your chakras.
It's actually on YouTube forfree.
I give it away like no, youneed this.
And the methodology that I useI learned from one of my
mediumship slash psychicteachers.
Her name is Tina.
She's a transmedium healer.
She works a lot with horses andshe initiated that process with
(31:38):
the spinning plates.
I then took that and then addedmy own flair to it and slowed
it down, because she worksreally fast, like she just go,
go go.
I'm like my ADHD brain Hold on.
I got to slow it down.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
for the rest, of my people who need to slow it down.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I got to do it for the rest of my people who need
to slow it down.
So my guided meditation isabout six to seven minutes long
of just sitting there, settingthe tone, feeling, hearing,
getting all your senses involvedand then opening your chakras.
So by doing that in the colonicsessions it helped me to speed
up my process, to be able to getmore efficient with helping
(32:16):
people to open themselves.
So, um, and then here we are.
Today I'm definitely focusingmore on offering my services of
reiki, acupressure, fascialstress therapy.
Um, I currently offer myservices out of my godmother's
crystal store called stardustand sage crystal store.
It it's also an herbal botanicaas well.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And where is that located, just so the people know
where you are.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
If you're in Phoenix, arizona, downtown Phoenix,
there's a street calledRoosevelt Street and they call
it Roosevelt Row, they call itroosevelt row, um, so it's right
off of roosevelt street andfifth street.
Uh, stardust and sage, uhherbal apothecary, so botanica,
so there's a bunch of herbalstuff there and uh, definitely
(33:05):
other spiritual services.
But that's where I offer myreiki acupressure and then I
sell my oils um next door aswell.
So I'm I'm a self-taughtherbalist, so lovely, lovely,
lovely.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I love it.
You're all encompassing allencompassing.
I say that you know, jack of alltrades, master of none, and
then there's a whole long thingthat comes after that, which
really means it's great to bejack of all trades.
Yes, I think the same thingabout myself I'm a jack of all
trades, master of none, and youknow it keeps things interesting
(33:41):
.
It keeps things exciting, andyour clients are must be so
blessed to be able to to workwith you with all of the tools
that you have in your tool belt.
I love that you said that,because I find myself doing the
same thing.
When I'm working with clients,either from they come in through
(34:01):
the coaching perspective orthey come from Reiki, I'm like,
okay, hold on a second, justpause for one moment.
We need to pause becausecoaching keeps you here, right,
reiki brings you here, andsometimes you need to move from
here and go back here for aminute and then go back front
(34:22):
and back.
So I love that you have thatapproach, and most healers that
I know who have multi-modalitieswill do the same thing Find a
unique perspective and a uniqueway to use all the tools when
they're needed.
Keep them separate if that'swhat people want, and so I think
for those of you who are in thePhoenix Arizona area, you need
(34:45):
to check this lovely, lovelywoman out.
And before we move on tosomething else, I want to talk
to you about your name.
Oh, yes, because you know Imess it up every single time,
right, and I also know that youhad a different name before, mm,
hmm.
So I was just saying before westarted recording I'm like can
we just call you that name?
It's just easier for me.
(35:06):
But it's not about me.
It's about me and I really wantto hear the story and the
journey of the name change.
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So for those who know me from when I was younger, my
birth name, the name that wasgiven to me, is June June White.
I never liked it growing upbecause everyone who I seen with
the name June did not look likeme.
So I was like, why did she nameme June?
And then I asked my parents thestory, why they named me June
(35:37):
and technically I was supposedto be a boy.
Even the doctors said I wassupposed to be a boy.
My mom carried low, you know,the sonograms, everything I was
supposed to be a boy when.
I came out, I was like surprisegirl and they didn't have a name
for me.
So they named me June.
And my mom says, no, that'sjust the name of one of my
(35:59):
favorite actors.
And I'm like, mm-hmm, sure theynamed me June because I was
born in June.
My birthday just passed June6th.
But also, I don't know ifpeople know, in the black
community, juniors are alsocalled June.
I did not know that.
Yes, so I was actually supposedto be my dad's first boy.
(36:21):
I was supposed to be CarlEdward White Jr.
I was supposed to be a junior.
So when I came out, I think hewas like yeah, we'll do June.
That's fine, because I'm likehis junior right so I'm like the
female version of my father,really um.
I am my daddy's daddy's girl, um, but June.
I never liked it and um, uh.
(36:43):
I've changed my name, actuallymultiple times, and not legally,
but all my names were given tome.
So I found an African circle,martial arts called capoeira.
People will say it's Brazilian,but it is African based and
from Angola.
And you get nicknames, okay,and then and the master or the
(37:07):
sensei who's teaching you givesyou your name.
Well, my master couldn't figureout a name for me.
So we had a big celebrationthey call it a baptizado, like a
baptism.
Right, the masters from aroundthe world came.
These two masters wereresponsible for bringing
Capoeira to the United States.
(37:27):
They named me.
They named me Nzinga and if youknow your Angolan history,
nzinga is the name of one of thequeens who kept her people from
slavery as long as she could.
So Queen Nzinga of Angola.
I knew who she was.
So when they named me that, Iwas like what I said?
Those are some big shoes tofill.
(37:48):
They were like yeah, we know.
So I'm like, okay, I'll acceptit humbly.
So Nzinga is one of the namesthat was given to me.
Ama is another name that wasgiven to me and it is she who
was born on Saturday In Ghanathey have these names called day
names.
Okay, and before I think, a fewdays before the child is given a
(38:09):
name, they are given their dayname based on the day they were
born, and it ama, a-m-a, basedon how it's spelled, tells you
which region in Ghana you'reactually from, right.
So I had a Ghanaian grandmotherwho, her daughter, owned a
restaurant.
She said, baby girl, what daywas you born?
And I said on saturday, shegoes.
I was like, oh, I'm about togive my day name my name she
(38:32):
goes.
You are alma and I said I'llaccept it.
So june, ama and zinga, theseare my names.
My last name that I received ismy um, my ifa spiritual name.
So ifa is a spiritual systemthat is practiced by the people
from the Yoruba nation, theYoruba peoples that are from in
(38:54):
West Africa.
They occupy different countriesbecause, you know, we don't.
We don't honor those lines thatwere given to us, if you know
what I mean.
So um niye ni nu, I was toldinitially, means she who has the
world within her.
Um.
I'm also studying europa rightnow and the linguist who is
(39:16):
teaching me asked me if I knewwhat my name meant and I told
him.
I was told it means she who hasthe world within her.
The world within is what?
The literal translation?
And then you know she who hasthe world within her, or the
world within is what?
The literal translation?
And then you know she who hasthe world within her and he goes
I just want you to know thatit's not just the physical world
, it is the life that existswithin world, within the world,
(39:38):
like the life of every beingthat exists, that you encounter,
that even once you don'tencounter that exists, that you
encounter, that, even ones youdon't encounter.
That is what that means.
Everything on the outsidealready exists inside of you.
I want you to make sure youknow that and I was like thank
you for adding that piece ofclarity to that, even though I
(39:59):
embodied that already.
It was just beautiful hearing anative Yoruba speaker who is a
linguist who teaches thelanguage break it down for me
that way, and I embody that namebecause the more I practice
self-love coming to me who I amwhen I encounter others, I can
(40:21):
show them that the world existswithin them as well.
I can show them that the worldexists within them as well.
Now, I was today years old whenI did some research on the name
June, because you know, I waslike that's a European name, I
don't want that name.
But even we know that Europeanculture, like Greek culture, all
(40:42):
of that is based off of Africanculture.
They've learned and studiedfrom African cultures, right?
And the name June has a Greekorigins, from the Greek goddess
Juno, and Juno was the goddessof fertility, goddess of love,
birthing children.
But also it said that she was,and if people know more, about
(41:08):
this.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Please correct me.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Like I said, I was 10 years old when I figured it out
research.
My name, yep um juno, was thegod, goddess of all the gods and
goddesses, and just from thatalone.
If, like that's what that is,then she encompasses everything
within her as well.
So if and like I said, I'm stilllearning, I'm not about being
(41:30):
corrected, but I like that itresonates with that Right,
because I can see that if that'swhat that is, then that's very
similar to me.
But just from a Greekperspective, I'm like, oh, maybe
I should embrace all my namesnames, you know, not just leave
out the European one, becauseI'm come from a source of, of
like telling you who you are.
(41:50):
You know the energy that wasbrought to you, so so, yeah, I
love.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Well, first of all, wow, what a story you know, and
I don't even know what.
I'm kind of speechless becausethat was a pretty darn good
story.
Because if it begins, my brainis like oh, my name is this and
da-da-da-da and da-da-da-da, andI go by a nickname, and
da-da-da-da, and what does allthat mean?
And who knows, maybe I'll godown that rabbit hole one day.
(42:17):
For sure, you know, it's beensuch a pleasure speaking with
you today.
I loved our conversation, sopowerful, so thought provoking,
and that's what we want to dohere.
We want to leave our listenerswith some information, some
questions, things to ponder.
(42:39):
We don't have all the answers.
We don't, and this is this.
Life is a journey.
Journey whether you are on ahealing journey or you're a
healer, or wherever you are.
It's a journey.
I think we need to just embraceit.
However it comes along, it'slike a roller coaster, right,
(42:59):
like some of it's fun and someof it makes you want to throw up
but think about it if had allthe answers, we wouldn't need
each other.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
We're not supposed to have all the answers, we're not
supposed to know everything.
We're supposed to shareinformation, share cultures, but
to share you have to knowyourself.
Self-love is the foundation ofeverything.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Amen to that sister.
That's all I have to say.
With that, we are coming to anend, and if you want to work
with Nien Nienu, then you are onour directory.
So come to miracleresourcescom,or, as we've been known in the
past, the miraclesdirectorycom.
(43:44):
You'll all come to the sameplace and you will be able to
find her.
And also, if you're in Phoenix,arizona, she told you where she
is, so go find her there.
This conversation has been sucha pleasure.
Thank you so much for your timeand enlightening us with your
journey and your life story.
(44:04):
Until next time.
Bye for now, thank you forjoining us today on Healers Talk
Healing.
We hope you've been inspiredand empowered on your holistic
healing journey.
If you've enjoyed today'sepisode and want to continue
learning and growing with us,don't forget to subscribe,
follow, rate and review ourpodcast.
(44:25):
Your feedback and support meanthe world to us.
Remember healing is a lifelongjourney and you have the power
to transform your life inprofound ways.
Stay curious, keep exploringand never stop believing in your
own capacity for healing.
Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where
we gather to explore the art andscience of holistic healing,
uncovering the secrets to ahappier, healthier you.
I'm your host, nina Ganguly,and together we will delve into
the intriguing world of holistichealing, delving into the
mind-body connection, ancientwisdom and natural remedies to
(00:27):
the mind-body connection,ancient wisdom and natural
remedies.
Get ready for enlighteningstories, thought-provoking
expert interviews and practicaltips that will empower you to
unlock your true potential andembrace a vibrant, balanced life
.
Whether you're an experiencedwellness enthusiast or simply
curious about the power ofhealing, join us on this
exhilarating journey as we sharethe wisdom and insights that
(00:47):
can truly transform your life.
It's time to embark on a voyagetowards a happier, healthier
you.
So, without further ado, let'sdive into the captivating world
of Healers Talk Healing.
Welcome back to Healers TalkHealing.
On this episode, we welcome theincredible Nye Nienu White,
(01:09):
founder of Healing Hands, oasisWellness Center and apothecary,
reiki master, herbalist,acupuncturist, colon
hydrotherapist and publishedauthor.
For over a decade, nye Nienuhas guided individuals on deep
healing journeys of mind, bodyand soul, from her early work in
(01:29):
total body corrective therapyto creating her own organic
Reiki-infused herbal oils.
Her approach blends ancientEastern medicine, energy healing
and plant-based wellness.
She believes the body is wiseand is capable of healing itself
when given the rightenvironment.
In this transformationalconversation, we explore
(01:52):
Ninenu's self-love journey, theenergetic roots of physical pain
and how modalities like Reiki,acupuncture and herbal medicine
unlock new paths to balance andwell-being.
Whether you're seekinginspiration, clarity or tools to
support your own healing, thisepisode is a must listen.
(02:14):
Oh my goodness, I am super,super excited to have the
wonderful Nye Nenu White on withus.
I think I said it right after.
I repeated it four times and Iapologize if I did not say it
correctly, but it is so excitingto have you on here.
(02:34):
And for those of you who tunedin to the meditation on July
June, we're not.
We're not in July yet June.
You were wonderful and thankyou so much for facilitating
that for us.
And if you haven't joined theglobal meditation for wellness,
(02:55):
then please hop onto our siteand check it out and join.
It doesn't cost anything.
We do it on the first Saturdayof every month.
But I digress because I'mactually really excited to talk
to you.
And first question I asked allof our guests is what does
healing mean to you, or what'syour definition of healing?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Okay, healing really coincides with self-healing.
It is all inclusive, you have.
We're more than just physicalbodies, right?
So we're physical beings,emotional beings, spiritual
beings.
So healing encompasses morethan three dimensions, in my
(03:40):
opinion.
So healing is complete,holistic and you know, I guess,
understanding how the body worksfrom every aspect of life in
general.
So healing is love.
I mean, if you want to justbring it down to the simplest
word, healing is love, and we'reeven talking about self-love,
(04:04):
you know, like that's thefoundation of loving others
around you as well.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So and let's, let's go deep into that little bit,
into that conversation ofself-love, because I think many
of us struggle with self-loveand many of us, I think, we do
it like we'll sit at a surfacelevel.
You know self-love, have abubble bath, you know, go to a
(04:29):
spa, get our hair done, which,yes, is taking care of yourself
and loving yourself.
But there's a deeperconversation that I think we
miss sometimes around what itactually means, what that is in,
you know, and a lot of it doesstart with, I think, a healing
(04:50):
journey, and I'm going to talkspecifically about women, you
know.
You know we, we, we give somuch of ourselves out there, and
I don't think there's anythingwrong with that.
That's, you know, part of, Ithink, our, our, our nature is
to, to be those nurturers, to begiving, but we're always
(05:12):
missing out over here, righthere, you know.
And then, when we begin to lookin here, something, something,
sometimes something, somethinggoes on.
So for for you, you know, whenyou're talking about those that
demand the dimensions and goingdeeper, what is your
(05:34):
prescription for self-love?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
that has changed so many times over the years
because I'm still defining it.
But, um, I want to say one ofthe biggest things that I've
learned up until my journey nowis that I can't really give to
those around me if I'm depleted,right.
So when I thought I was puttingmyself out there giving, giving
(06:00):
, giving, giving, but I wasn'tdoing the same for me, then I
had to re-look at all of thoseinteractions and see was it
really genuine?
Because if self-love is themeasuring stick for what you can
give others, then that waspretty.
It was an interestingself-reflection like, wow, was
(06:21):
that really empty?
Was that really pure from myheart if I didn't even have it
for me?
So I know we've all heard loveis kind, right?
No one says love is nice, right, nice and kind are two
different things.
Niceties are what you feel areexpected of you, are expected of
(06:42):
you.
Kindness is rooted in truth andI had to look back at the truth
that all these things that Ithought I was doing for people
out of love, out of niceness,was not rooted in truth.
It wasn't something that Itruly that resonated with me,
because I didn't.
How can it resonate with youwhen you don't know you when you
(07:02):
don't spend time to love you,right?
So it's like I'm in thisjourney of really breaking down.
I guess you call it alchemy.
Alchemy is break, decompositionand then recomposition, right so
I'm breaking down who I thoughtI was and then rebuilding who I
(07:25):
am, and all of that is rootedin self love, rooted in truth.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So there is just like , oh, so many beautiful
soundbites in that.
What you just shared, which islike kindness, is truth.
And discovering the truth frommy own experience because I can
only really speak about mine isnot always easy or pretty, yeah,
(07:52):
pretty, pretty, not pretty, notpretty.
The parts that you know thatyou so nicely hide from yourself
not just others, but fromyourself is is something you
(08:12):
know it's called shadow work,and then there's inner child
work.
There's all these labels forall the works and they're all
very important.
And I think the benefit of thisconversation is what I'm
hearing you say is like that'swhere you want to go.
You want to go and be in thoseplaces and not, well, duck and
(08:36):
hide.
You know, duck and hide fromthe truth, like how can you be
kind to others if you don't knowhow to be kind to yourself?
Like from a true, authenticplace, I say I've said the same
thing in the past.
You know there's that sayinglike love your, love your
neighbor as you love yourself.
But how do you do that if youare not truly loving yourself?
(08:59):
And even at the question of,sometimes I question you.
You know, as a mother, you knowwe say we have unconditional
love for our children.
But do we?
You know, if you're, if, ifthere's a challenge of having
that unconditional love for selfand I know moms out there will
be like these are fighting words, but I'm coming from that
(09:22):
authentic place right now, afterdoing work and still doing the
work by the way, fyi, the worknever ends but doing the work is
seeing that.
Wait a minute.
I developed these relationshipsbased on who I didn't want to be
, who I did want to be, versuswho they needed me to be in
(09:47):
those moments, and if I wastruly coming from a place of
authenticity, that would havebeen so much more easier.
Not saying that, you know I,you know I wasn't going to
traumatize my children.
I was not a mother before.
I have no idea.
You know that that whole thingis a whole let's just that's a
(10:07):
whole different bowl of cherries.
But this conversation, I think,is so important to have, and for
women at any age, and oh mygosh, yes, I can say, the
younger you are, the easier itis.
I don't think so.
I think it's easy to say whenI'm, you know, on the other end
of being the young one, becausewe still have to have all of
(10:29):
those incredible I'm going tosay incredible lessons,
experiences, learnings, in orderto get to a place to say, oh,
yeah, okay, this is where I,this is where things started.
So you said you know, you weresaying there were many different
iterations of you going throughand, you know, beginning to
(10:53):
develop this relation withrelationship with yourself.
Where did it start for you?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
um, I guess you could say, the actualization of
seeing myself started after mydivorce and when I was 28.
So that year was the year Ireally recognized that I'm not
(11:21):
who I want to be, and I wasrooted in spirituality, asking
higher powers like why am I here?
So that journey is like itbegan at 28.
And 10 years ago.
I'm 38 this year, so-.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Or just by the way.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, but it wasn't an
easy journey because it was alot of.
I like to call them pies oftruth that were thrown in my
face.
Throw pies in your face, right,but they were truth pies.
So it was like delicious but ithurt.
(12:05):
It was like delicious, but ithurt, especially when, when,
when your internal desire is toknow yourself, it's easier to
accept the truth.
Right, I mean, it's hard still,but it's easier to accept the
truth.
But I also just want tohighlight that, even though
(12:25):
we're focusing on women, right,I like to make it more
metaphysical and say this is afeminine principle.
Yeah, let's talk about that,right?
So it's not something thatwomen just do.
It's something that women andmen do because we both have the
feminine, divine feminine andthe divine masculine in us.
So I don't want men to bedeterred like oh, here goes
women again talking aboutself-love, and I agree with you
(12:47):
let's be inclusive Everybody ifyou are a soul, a human soul,
right, you need self-love to getto the next level.
Actually, in this level of myjourney right now, my fiance has
been the greatest teacher withself-love.
I watch how he loves on himselfand.
(13:07):
I'm like I want that too.
So it's like we just just likehow a baby does when they're,
when they're growing up, theywatch their parents, they watch
their peers, they watch theirteachers and they're like that,
is that right?
Is that the right thing to do?
Is that?
No, that's wrong.
Okay, I can't do that right.
We're constantly, you know,exploring, giving, taking,
trying this out, experimentinghere, but we look to the people
(13:31):
that we trust around us, whoexude what we want in our lives,
right?
So this 10-year journey has,even though it's only been 10
years 10 years is short it feelslike it's been happening for a
lifetime.
I do believe in past lives whenI encountered my past lives
through past life regressions.
I have been on this journey formultiple lifetimes.
(13:53):
It's just in this lifetime Irecognize, at the age of 28,
that I'm like whoa, no, I got toget back to it.
I'm almost there.
I'm almost there, right?
So it's it's.
It's an arduous journey, butit's so rewarding because when
you can really break down all ofthose walls and expectations of
other societal expectationsmotherly, parent, parental
(14:15):
expectations, friendship, it allthose expectations and really
get down to the core of who youare, which I'm not there yet
Right, remember, this is this isa lifetime more than lifetime
journey, right, when you startreally getting that peephole of
like, oh, this is who I am, ooh,that confidence sets and
(14:35):
everybody's out there likewhat's my purpose?
What's my purpose?
That purpose is generated fromthe confidence of knowing who
you are.
If you don't know who you are,the confidence is shaky.
But all of that's rooted inloving yourself.
You have to accept yourself,love yourself.
You know what I mean.
So it's a beautiful journey andI believe that all humans, all
(15:00):
souls, all spirits are trying toreach that highest level of
consciousness, to integrate backto the great.
I am consciousness, right.
So, that's why it's more thanjust a lifetime's work, it is
multiple lifetimes.
Each time we come back, we'renext step closer, next step
closer, next step closer.
I mean, I got one more, onemore iteration.
(15:21):
It's just filling in my heartcoming back one more time and
then after that I'm like got itright.
Integrated with source energy,you know.
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I, I, totally, I get that, I, I, I do, I get that
there.
You know, like I said, it's,it's an, it's a never ending
journey until it is, and wedon't always necessarily know or
have the insight to when thatis.
And I loved what you said aboutmy purpose, because so many of
us walk around in this worldlike why am I here, what is it
(15:57):
all about?
And there's so many differentperspectives on why we are here.
I'm very in alignment with whatyou're talking about, you know,
and so for, as you were sharing, I was thinking, huh, okay,
I've done past, past liferegressions, but what I've
(16:21):
learned for myself, that myjourney has been all about
forgiveness, the that, that,that the road to self love for
me has been through forgiveness.
I've had some.
We could go real woo, woo and Icould tell you who I saw and
who I was.
And maybe that's for anothertime, or maybe I could, I don't
(16:42):
know.
People will be like, hmm,you'll cray cray, nina, but you
know, in one iteration of a pastlife I think I'm just going to
share, and if I, if you know, itis what it is.
But there's a big one forforgiveness, which is I was
Judas and so being trust me,that that took a long time for
(17:02):
me to digest and work throughand understand and I was like,
come on, now, this is just mybrain doing dumb stuff.
Because, just for those outthere who have heard about past
life regressions and maybe arethinking about it, it does
sometimes feel like your brainis playing tricks on you, like
(17:25):
is this real?
But then you flip to anotherone and you flip to another one
and you're thinking it's yourimagination and your facilitator
is walking along with you going.
I can see what you see and so Ijust I understand, just like
you understand, like whereyou're, what the direction is,
(17:45):
and I get for me what mydirection is.
And every time I'm working withanother healer for myself.
You know, being a healer iswonderful and I get to be that
space for others, but we needhealers in our lives too, like
coaches need coaches, doctorsneed doctors, teachers need
teachers we all need, you know,just that other person who's
there to help guide us along theway.
(18:06):
And I really just the reasonI'm sharing this with you is
because what you're sharing withme is landing and resonating so
strongly about the truth andthe authenticity and the
self-love gives you your purpose.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You know, I say this consistently, it's all an inside
job.
We need to well, I'm going tosay need to.
You can do whatever you want.
It's your journey, but we needto stop looking out there
outside of us for what's goingon in here, outside of us, for
what's going on in here.
And it is a wonderfullyinteresting, crazy journey that
(18:54):
takes a minute.
And there's one thing that yousaid that I agree with as well
there's got to be a willingnessto do the discovery.
There's got to be thatwillingness to be brave and
courageous, to walk, and youknow cause it will.
Some things will knock you down, some things you discover about
yourself, and then there's justlife that just happens and gets
(19:15):
in the way of yourself-ddiscovery and you're like,
wait a minute, I thought I wasa, uh, you know a higher self of
myself, and then you just findyourself being your old self and
things happen and give yourselfa break.
Um, but this, this, this isjust so wonderful.
So thank you for giving usthose nuggets, but I want to ask
(19:39):
you about you and your journeyof what had you get into the
healing arts and all thedifferent things that you do
that we shared earlier in yourintroduction, because I find
them all so fascinating.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Okay, shared earlier in your introduction, because I
find them all so fascinating.
Okay, so, since I was a kidreally young, I would say maybe
six, seven my aunt and my momused to give me a few dollars
here and there to massage theirfeet, right.
I've always been a touchy-feelyperson and as I got older I
learned that it's somaticempathy.
And for those who don't knowwhat somatic empathy is, is the
(20:24):
empathic person who feels orheals through feeling Meaning.
I like imagine watching a TVshow and the person gets stabbed
in the gut.
I Can feel.
It's like oh right, so I haveto be mindful of the things I
watch, the things that I hear,because if the minute I
(20:46):
visualize it in my head, it'salmost as if it's happening to
me.
Oh wow, I can feel it right.
So when I'm, when I'm workingwith my clients, I can actually
feel their pain.
Before they tell me where it is.
If I'm palpating on the body,I'm like, oh, you got sharp back
(21:06):
pain.
They're like yeah, how'd youknow?
I feel that's right.
So somatic empathy I've had itsince a kid, before I even
understood it was.
I used to get teased, calledwhat?
Do they call them?
A hypochondriac?
Ah yeah.
So all for all myhypochondriacs out there, if you
are a healer and an empath,just know that you're feeling
(21:30):
everybody around you,everybody's pain, everybody's
emotions, everybody's joy, joy,all of these random emotions
just kind of flooding you, andwhen you don't know yourself
it's hard to distinguish who areyou.
Why am I feeling all this stuff?
Confusion breeds from notknowing yourself, especially
when you feel so deeply right.
(21:51):
So I've been healing since Iwas a kid.
Um, I grew up in the church.
I was deemed a prayer warrior,like just the like.
I told you, if I can visualizeit, I'm manifesting it.
I'm also a manifester in thehuman design as well.
These like really sensitiveskills.
(22:19):
I guess in the psychology worldthey will call them highly
sensitive persons, hsps.
I don't know if you've heard ofthat before.
So, being so sensitive, I haveto really, really I'm motivated
to know myself, because if Idon't, I'm confused and I can't
really help anybody around me,right?
So the healing aspect startedwith trying to help others, you
(22:40):
know, through expectation, butthen discovering that I need to
know me first so I can helpothers more efficiently.
So as I got older, through theyears, just from my own physical
injuries, you know, focusing onthe here and now and the
present, because no one reallyteaches you the spirituality at
(23:01):
a young age, right, you feel it,but you don't fully consciously
understand it.
So I'm stuck in the physicalathletic injure myself.
I get frozen shoulder, kneeissues, tilted hip.
You, you know all that kind ofstuff.
Find a fascial stretchtherapist and she heals me of my
(23:23):
physical ailments.
I'm like I want that.
So I get certified, I cancertify as a fascial search
therapist, okay, and that is thestart of me soliciting my
healing services.
I learned really quick that mytouch is different than other
(23:43):
people's touch because of thetype of healer that I am.
I didn't know that in themeantime, right.
So I'm doing fascial stretchtherapy, stretching people out.
They're seeing results, likeinstantaneously, immediately,
but then deeper healing withinand I'm like, why?
So then I learn and discoverabout this thing called Reiki,
(24:04):
and that was probably like 2017.
When I find out about it, I alsolearned about past life
regressions at the same time.
So my Reiki practitioner wasalso a past life regression
facilitator and I decided to dothe past life regression first
(24:24):
because I was feeling feelingsof abandonment and like I'm just
going to be left alone.
I'm like I don't have thoseissues in this lifetime.
What is what's going on?
So after doing research, Idiscovered that maybe it's
remnants of a past life that'sseeping into this life, and
that's always been my motivationto do past life regressions in
(24:48):
conjunction with my healingjourney.
So I go do past life regression, find out who I was, could not
accept it, but recognize thatthat person that I was lived a
lonely life, didn't have anychildren, no siblings, and died
an old, lonely life.
So, those energies were seepinginto this lifetime, preventing
(25:12):
me from really connecting withpeople when I'm healing, because
I'm feeling a sense ofabandonment.
Once I was able to kind of talkto that version of me and let
it go, those feelings dissipated, you know another notch on the
journey to move forward.
So I get certified as a Reikipractitioner level two.
(25:32):
I went in for level one.
The practitioner was likeyou're already at level two.
I went in for level one.
The practitioner was likeyou're already at level two, you
probably should be a master.
But let me just go throwingthat in for free, we're just
going to certify you a level two.
So I get certified level tworight off the spot.
I start offering that servicealong with my fascial stretch
therapy.
(25:53):
But the type of healer that I am, it's hard for me to piecemeal
my services because I look at my, my abilities, as a tool belt
and as I'm doing fascial stretchtherapy, reiki is like my
locator spell.
That's.
That's how I always identifiedit.
So before I begin the stretch,I I lay my hands on people and
(26:15):
I'm like OK, because of thesomatic empathy Right I can feel
, and then I start the fascialstretch therapy.
So it was hard for me toseparate the services in the
beginning.
Going forward I startedseparating the services but just
focusing on Reiki alone andkind of not doing fascial
(26:36):
stretch therapy to see peoplewho, just you know, want Reiki.
I was doing it long distancetoo and that's what really built
up my confidence of offeringReiki as a separate services for
those who want it.
If you want fascial stretchtherapy, you're still going to
get Reiki the minute I put myhands on you.
I mean I know I can turn it off, but why would I want to do
(26:57):
that when that helps me be amore efficient fascial stretch
therapist?
So I just offered it separatefor those who don't want to be
stretched and just wantenergetic healing.
A few years later I getcertified as a master, learn how
to attune others, and I'mactually.
I got my certification throughPhoenix College and it was set
(27:18):
up so well.
Like it was four weekends andjust I'm an educator.
For those who don't know, I'vetaught for five years.
My mom had a home childcarecenter for 30 plus years.
I helped out in that.
So teaching I'm a natural bornteacher.
That is like a passion of mine.
Teaching I'm a natural bornteacher.
That is like a passion of mine.
So when I saw the certificationprocess being taught in that
(27:40):
environment, like school style,um, it really resonated with me.
Um, to the point where I'm like, oh I can, I can definitely
reattune people.
This is amazing, right, um, bigup to phoenix college, um,
after becoming a Reiki master, Istarted teaching myself
(28:00):
acupressure.
Those of you who don't know whatacupressure is it is just like
acupuncture, just no needles areinvolved.
You might use like a blunt toolor your fingertips I use my
fingertips and I use the sameapp that all of the other
traditional Chinese medicineschools teach use for their
(28:21):
students.
I didn't know that.
I learned that by happenstance.
So, by teaching myself that andbecause I have somatic empathy,
I can be an efficientacupressure with fascial stretch
therapy, even started pullingback on fascial stretch therapy,
focusing on acupressure andonly incorporating fascial
(28:41):
stretch therapy when necessary.
Because all ailments, alldisruptions of energy start in
the energetic space.
Remember, we're spirit beingsfirst occupying this physical
sleeve, right?
So if everything originatesspiritually, then I'm going to
(29:03):
focus on the meridian lines, thechakras, everything that's
energetic base first, to see ifthat unwinds physically and
whatever's left.
Then I'll tackle with thephysical.
Though that has been like the Iguess you say the gist of my
healing journey today.
I'm also a colon hydrotherapist.
(29:25):
For those who don't know ifthat is, um, you know it is
about that right.
Think about an enema on 100.
The difference the enema isgravity fed, whereas a colonic
is pressurized water.
So it becomes more efficientwhen you do a colonic.
(29:45):
And because I'm a certifiedcolon hydrotherapist, I work
currently work at the more cleancolon hydrotherapy.
Big ups to Elizabeth Joseph,the owner there.
She's also my friend, cleancolon hydrotherapy.
Big ups to elizabeth josephs,the owner of theirs.
She's also my friend.
Um, we, um.
I actually brought it to herattention to offer my energetic
(30:07):
services during colonics,because water is life and we are
70 water.
So we know that you can speaklife into water.
Water holds memory, right.
So if I'm working the energeticforce field of your being while
water is going in and out ofyou, man, that just makes the
energy work more efficient,right.
(30:28):
So I I actually build up myskills and efficiency.
Hence the.
You know um the guidedmeditation, um doing colonics
and reiki, doing colonics andacupressure at the same time.
So reiki is a service that Ioffer during the colonics and I
always start off with like a sixto seven minute guided
meditation of opening thechakras, which allows the person
(30:52):
it's self-account.
When you sit by that tree andyou are focusing on every chakra
, spinning and opening it, youare making yourself open to the
things you desire.
Most of us want to manifest anddesire, but we don't open
ourselves.
So, I truly believe, like all mymeditations, have that opening
(31:13):
your chakras.
It's actually on YouTube forfree.
I give it away like no, youneed this.
And the methodology that I useI learned from one of my
mediumship slash psychicteachers.
Her name is Tina.
She's a transmedium healer.
She works a lot with horses andshe initiated that process with
(31:38):
the spinning plates.
I then took that and then addedmy own flair to it and slowed
it down, because she worksreally fast, like she just go,
go go.
I'm like my ADHD brain Hold on.
I got to slow it down.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
for the rest, of my people who need to slow it down.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I got to do it for the rest of my people who need
to slow it down.
So my guided meditation isabout six to seven minutes long
of just sitting there, settingthe tone, feeling, hearing,
getting all your senses involvedand then opening your chakras.
So by doing that in the colonicsessions it helped me to speed
up my process, to be able to getmore efficient with helping
(32:16):
people to open themselves.
So, um, and then here we are.
Today I'm definitely focusingmore on offering my services of
reiki, acupressure, fascialstress therapy.
Um, I currently offer myservices out of my godmother's
crystal store called stardustand sage crystal store.
It it's also an herbal botanicaas well.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And where is that located, just so the people know
where you are.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
If you're in Phoenix, arizona, downtown Phoenix,
there's a street calledRoosevelt Street and they call
it Roosevelt Row, they call itroosevelt row, um, so it's right
off of roosevelt street andfifth street.
Uh, stardust and sage, uhherbal apothecary, so botanica,
so there's a bunch of herbalstuff there and uh, definitely
(33:05):
other spiritual services.
But that's where I offer myreiki acupressure and then I
sell my oils um next door aswell.
So I'm I'm a self-taughtherbalist, so lovely, lovely,
lovely.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I love it.
You're all encompassing allencompassing.
I say that you know, jack of alltrades, master of none, and
then there's a whole long thingthat comes after that, which
really means it's great to bejack of all trades.
Yes, I think the same thingabout myself I'm a jack of all
trades, master of none, and youknow it keeps things interesting
(33:41):
.
It keeps things exciting, andyour clients are must be so
blessed to be able to to workwith you with all of the tools
that you have in your tool belt.
I love that you said that,because I find myself doing the
same thing.
When I'm working with clients,either from they come in through
(34:01):
the coaching perspective orthey come from Reiki, I'm like,
okay, hold on a second, justpause for one moment.
We need to pause becausecoaching keeps you here, right,
reiki brings you here, andsometimes you need to move from
here and go back here for aminute and then go back front
(34:22):
and back.
So I love that you have thatapproach, and most healers that
I know who have multi-modalitieswill do the same thing Find a
unique perspective and a uniqueway to use all the tools when
they're needed.
Keep them separate if that'swhat people want, and so I think
for those of you who are in thePhoenix Arizona area, you need
(34:45):
to check this lovely, lovelywoman out.
And before we move on tosomething else, I want to talk
to you about your name.
Oh, yes, because you know Imess it up every single time,
right, and I also know that youhad a different name before, mm,
hmm.
So I was just saying before westarted recording I'm like can
we just call you that name?
It's just easier for me.
(35:06):
But it's not about me.
It's about me and I really wantto hear the story and the
journey of the name change.
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So for those who know me from when I was younger, my
birth name, the name that wasgiven to me, is June June White.
I never liked it growing upbecause everyone who I seen with
the name June did not look likeme.
So I was like, why did she nameme June?
And then I asked my parents thestory, why they named me June
(35:37):
and technically I was supposedto be a boy.
Even the doctors said I wassupposed to be a boy.
My mom carried low, you know,the sonograms, everything I was
supposed to be a boy when.
I came out, I was like surprisegirl and they didn't have a name
for me.
So they named me June.
And my mom says, no, that'sjust the name of one of my
(35:59):
favorite actors.
And I'm like, mm-hmm, sure theynamed me June because I was
born in June.
My birthday just passed June6th.
But also, I don't know ifpeople know, in the black
community, juniors are alsocalled June.
I did not know that.
Yes, so I was actually supposedto be my dad's first boy.
(36:21):
I was supposed to be CarlEdward White Jr.
I was supposed to be a junior.
So when I came out, I think hewas like yeah, we'll do June.
That's fine, because I'm likehis junior right so I'm like the
female version of my father,really um.
I am my daddy's daddy's girl, um, but June.
I never liked it and um, uh.
(36:43):
I've changed my name, actuallymultiple times, and not legally,
but all my names were given tome.
So I found an African circle,martial arts called capoeira.
People will say it's Brazilian,but it is African based and
from Angola.
And you get nicknames, okay,and then and the master or the
(37:07):
sensei who's teaching you givesyou your name.
Well, my master couldn't figureout a name for me.
So we had a big celebrationthey call it a baptizado, like a
baptism.
Right, the masters from aroundthe world came.
These two masters wereresponsible for bringing
Capoeira to the United States.
(37:27):
They named me.
They named me Nzinga and if youknow your Angolan history,
nzinga is the name of one of thequeens who kept her people from
slavery as long as she could.
So Queen Nzinga of Angola.
I knew who she was.
So when they named me that, Iwas like what I said?
Those are some big shoes tofill.
(37:48):
They were like yeah, we know.
So I'm like, okay, I'll acceptit humbly.
So Nzinga is one of the namesthat was given to me.
Ama is another name that wasgiven to me and it is she who
was born on Saturday In Ghanathey have these names called day
names.
Okay, and before I think, a fewdays before the child is given a
(38:09):
name, they are given their dayname based on the day they were
born, and it ama, a-m-a, basedon how it's spelled, tells you
which region in Ghana you'reactually from, right.
So I had a Ghanaian grandmotherwho, her daughter, owned a
restaurant.
She said, baby girl, what daywas you born?
And I said on saturday, shegoes.
I was like, oh, I'm about togive my day name my name she
(38:32):
goes.
You are alma and I said I'llaccept it.
So june, ama and zinga, theseare my names.
My last name that I received ismy um, my ifa spiritual name.
So ifa is a spiritual systemthat is practiced by the people
from the Yoruba nation, theYoruba peoples that are from in
(38:54):
West Africa.
They occupy different countriesbecause, you know, we don't.
We don't honor those lines thatwere given to us, if you know
what I mean.
So um niye ni nu, I was toldinitially, means she who has the
world within her.
Um.
I'm also studying europa rightnow and the linguist who is
(39:16):
teaching me asked me if I knewwhat my name meant and I told
him.
I was told it means she who hasthe world within her.
The world within is what?
The literal translation?
And then you know she who hasthe world within her, or the
world within is what?
The literal translation?
And then you know she who hasthe world within her and he goes
I just want you to know thatit's not just the physical world
, it is the life that existswithin world, within the world,
(39:38):
like the life of every beingthat exists, that you encounter,
that even once you don'tencounter that exists, that you
encounter, that, even ones youdon't encounter.
That is what that means.
Everything on the outsidealready exists inside of you.
I want you to make sure youknow that and I was like thank
you for adding that piece ofclarity to that, even though I
(39:59):
embodied that already.
It was just beautiful hearing anative Yoruba speaker who is a
linguist who teaches thelanguage break it down for me
that way, and I embody that namebecause the more I practice
self-love coming to me who I amwhen I encounter others, I can
(40:21):
show them that the world existswithin them as well.
I can show them that the worldexists within them as well.
Now, I was today years old whenI did some research on the name
June, because you know, I waslike that's a European name, I
don't want that name.
But even we know that Europeanculture, like Greek culture, all
(40:42):
of that is based off of Africanculture.
They've learned and studiedfrom African cultures, right?
And the name June has a Greekorigins, from the Greek goddess
Juno, and Juno was the goddessof fertility, goddess of love,
birthing children.
But also it said that she was,and if people know more, about
(41:08):
this.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Please correct me.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Like I said, I was 10 years old when I figured it out
research.
My name, yep um juno, was thegod, goddess of all the gods and
goddesses, and just from thatalone.
If, like that's what that is,then she encompasses everything
within her as well.
So if and like I said, I'm stilllearning, I'm not about being
(41:30):
corrected, but I like that itresonates with that Right,
because I can see that if that'swhat that is, then that's very
similar to me.
But just from a Greekperspective, I'm like, oh, maybe
I should embrace all my namesnames, you know, not just leave
out the European one, becauseI'm come from a source of, of
like telling you who you are.
(41:50):
You know the energy that wasbrought to you, so so, yeah, I
love.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Well, first of all, wow, what a story you know, and
I don't even know what.
I'm kind of speechless becausethat was a pretty darn good
story.
Because if it begins, my brainis like oh, my name is this and
da-da-da-da and da-da-da-da, andI go by a nickname, and
da-da-da-da, and what does allthat mean?
And who knows, maybe I'll godown that rabbit hole one day.
(42:17):
For sure, you know, it's beensuch a pleasure speaking with
you today.
I loved our conversation, sopowerful, so thought provoking,
and that's what we want to dohere.
We want to leave our listenerswith some information, some
questions, things to ponder.
(42:39):
We don't have all the answers.
We don't, and this is this.
Life is a journey.
Journey whether you are on ahealing journey or you're a
healer, or wherever you are.
It's a journey.
I think we need to just embraceit.
However it comes along, it'slike a roller coaster, right,
(42:59):
like some of it's fun and someof it makes you want to throw up
but think about it if had allthe answers, we wouldn't need
each other.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
We're not supposed to have all the answers, we're not
supposed to know everything.
We're supposed to shareinformation, share cultures, but
to share you have to knowyourself.
Self-love is the foundation ofeverything.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Amen to that sister.
That's all I have to say.
With that, we are coming to anend, and if you want to work
with Nien Nienu, then you are onour directory.
So come to miracleresourcescom,or, as we've been known in the
past, the miraclesdirectorycom.
(43:44):
You'll all come to the sameplace and you will be able to
find her.
And also, if you're in Phoenix,arizona, she told you where she
is, so go find her there.
This conversation has been sucha pleasure.
Thank you so much for your timeand enlightening us with your
journey and your life story.
(44:04):
Until next time.
Bye for now, thank you forjoining us today on Healers Talk
Healing.
We hope you've been inspiredand empowered on your holistic
healing journey.
If you've enjoyed today'sepisode and want to continue
learning and growing with us,don't forget to subscribe,
follow, rate and review ourpodcast.
(44:25):
Your feedback and support meanthe world to us.
Remember healing is a lifelongjourney and you have the power
to transform your life inprofound ways.
Stay curious, keep exploringand never stop believing in your
own capacity for healing.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!