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August 18, 2025 112 mins

What are the gifts and the challenges of being a Human Design Projector? What does it mean to guide others? How might Projectors orient towards success as a non-sacral being?

As a Generator, I’ve been blessed to be surrounded by wise Projectors and their unique perspectives on life. I’ve also witnessed firsthand some of the difficulties that Projectors work through as they decondition from societal definitions of success and discover the authentic flow of their energies.

In this conversation, my dear friend Joanne Chen, a 2/4 Splenic Projector, joined me to discuss all things Projectors. We talked about Joanne’s journey – from pursuing a career as a classical musician in NYC to living in Bali and guiding others on their spiritual journey.

We also discussed the relationship between Projectors and Generators: how they can support one another in the process of deconditioning, while appreciating each other’s natural gifts.

Here’s Joanne’s bio:

Joanne is an energy refinement mentor and spiritual guide known for her clarity, resonance, and multidimensional approach to transformation.

Rooted in decades of experience as a professional pianist and teacher, she brings the same precision and depth to her current work, supporting clients of all ages worldwide in recalibrating their energetic systems and realigning with their natural frequency.

Her guidance weaves together universal laws, Taoist wisdom, Human Design, Gene Keys, QHHT, breathwork, and nervous system attunement.

She is also trained in Yin yoga and Reiki with a background in cognitive behavior-based teaching and emotional pattern recognition. However, it is her intuitive clarity and ability to hold a safe, potent space that clients often describe as a “breath of fresh air.”

Whether working with high-level visionaries or those undergoing profound personal shifts, Joanne’s work helps people experience their own energy as the architect of reality - and return to truth without bypassing.

Joanne is also offering a special discount for Healing The Spirit listeners for her signature programs. Reach out to her directly for details and mention the podcast!

Find out more about Joanne and her work through her website divinehumangrid.com, her offerings list, and Instagram.

If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.

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This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

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