February 11, 2025 • 47 mins
In this episode, we explore the trend of doctors leaving clinical settings and chat with Dasha Agoulnik about gut health's role in overall well-being. Dasha shares her nutrition background and critiques the medical system, highlighting dietitians' roles. She introduces CorePerform's unique approach, including their protein supplement and coaching services. We delve into defining a healthy gut, discussing gluten intolerance, glyphosate, and longevity. The conversation also covers bodybuilding, entrepreneurship, and balancing personal health, emphasizing community and accountability. The episode wraps up with insights on living a fully fueled life and Dasha's future goals.
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I recently saw a statistic that said, like,twenty six percent of doctors are going to
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leave the clinical setting in the next, like,five years.
And don't quote me on that, but it wassomething ridiculous where it was like, people
are leaving.
Even my friend lives in, Boston and is adietitian up there in Boston Children's, and
she was saying, like, the turnover there at inthe hospitals, like, no one wants to stay in
hospitals anymore.
No one wants to work there.
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Everyone's getting out as much as they can.
Welcome to Health Decoded, your number onesource for real health information with your
hosts, doctor Alessi and Matt Tack.
Welcome back to another episode of HealthDecoded.
I am your host, doctor Alfred Alessi, and I'vegot some exciting news.
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Today, we are rereleasing one of our morepopular episodes from the Full Fueled podcast
with none other than our friend, Dasha Agulnik.
Dasha is an expert in gut health, metabolism,and functional nutrition.
And in this episode, we dove deep into how yourgut impacts fat loss, hormone balance, and
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overall health and performance.
So if you've ever struggled with bloating,stubborn weight, or mystery symptoms that your
doctor brushes off, this episode is a mustlisten.
Trust me.
There's a reason this was one of our fanfavorites.
So whether you missed it the first time or youjust need a refresher, let's get to the
episode.
Back at it, man.
Hey.
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Back?
Good day, man.
Exciting stuff here.
Got a got a We got
a special guest with us today.
I'm super excited.
I'm actually really excited.
Yeah.
It's, it's been a long time coming.
So ladies and gentlemen, today, we have theprivilege of welcoming you a true powerhouse in
the fields of nutrition, entrepreneurship, andeducation.
So we're gonna we're gonna fill you in on allthree of those.
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Our guest, Dasha Angulich, is a trailblazerwhose remarkable achievements have left an
indebble mark on the world of nutrition and guthealth, which we're gonna be focusing on both
of those, and we're gonna be focusing on,obviously, the entrepreneurship piece because
she is amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tell a little bit about her.
Dasha is a registered dietitian, five timepublished nutrition researcher, two time award
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winning bikini athlete.
That's awesome.
She graduated from the top nutrition graduateprogram in the country, Tufts University, a
Friedman School.
Her research and coaching focuses on optimizingmetabolic and digestive health through
nutrition and exercise.
Core core perform has helped over 500 peopleand growing.
Right?
You're still you're still building this, andyou get results in just three months with a
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hundred percent success rate.
That's fantastic.
I love that those stats right there.
She recently won Friedman's one hundredthousand pitch competition for her patent
pending protein, which I wanna hear a lot moreabout, and was welcomed into The US Food And
Innovation Council with leaders in the industrylike Kellogg, Campbell, and Nestle.
That's freaking huge.
That's awesome.
Dasha, how are you?
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Welcome to the show.
Good.
Thank you guys for having me.
How are you guys doing?
We're doing awesome.
We are blessed today.
We're blessed to be on Friday.
It's a chilly day here in Tampa, Florida.
How's the how's the weather out there?
It's 46, but
Oh, dang.
This is weird.
We we wake up at with, like, 40 degrees, and byby afternoon, the sun heats us up to, to, like,
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72.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's that's Florida.
That's like Tampa right now.
We call that, like, 75, 50 five, I feel like.
So I wanna dig in.
We wanna get nerdy today.
But then we also wanna get like, I wanna Iwanna hear the entrepreneurship side as well.
But, you know, our focus is living full fueled,so we wanna make sure we focus on the pillars.
And that is the main thing is gut health.
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Gut health is so important, and, we know you'rean expert in that area.
So we wanna focus on that.
But, we also my first question is, can youshare a bit about your journey in the field of
nutrition and specifically gut health, fromyour academic side at maybe Tufts and and how,
like, how the thing evolved, the being cameabout, then also to the founding of
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CorePerform.
So if you could just give us a littlebackground there.
Sure thing.
So, my background is in nutrition research.
So I got my master's in nutritionalepidemiology from Tufts Nutrition, which is a
really fancy way of saying, how diet affectsdisease.
And so my thesis at Tufts was looking at thepaleo diet.
How was it created?
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Who created this concept?
Is it actually valid based off of the researchthat we have around it, which it's not?
Like, we didn't as human populations, we didn'treally eat like they say we did.
The research says that we ate, like, a 10 gramsof fiber a day, and and that's not realistic,
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which I can go into in a later on.
But, my research really focused on the paleodiet.
And at that time, I was getting diagnosed withceliac disease.
So I was going through my own gut issues atthat time, dealing with battling with doctors.
I remember one time I was sitting in Bostontraffic with if if any of you are from Boston,
you know that this is, like, a two hour, you'restuck in head to head car.
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I remember having such a spasm and, like,stabbing pain in my stomach.
I almost like, I was stuck because I was like,do I call an ambulance?
Because it's gonna take them just as long toget to me right now in the middle of traffic,
Or do I try and make it the at another thirtyminutes to the next exit?
Like, I was in so much pain during that time,and that really fueled a lot of my interest in
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gut health and understanding why the system isso broken in terms of the medical system.
I was wanting to be a doctor, and then, youknow, I was like, you know what?
I wanna be a dietitian because I can changepeople's lifestyle and diet in order to improve
their health.
I don't have to have them get on a medication.
I can actually change their life.
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And that is the most rewarding part of what Ido is I get to transform the actual human
being.
After people work with me, I get to see thebrightness that changes in their in their life.
I get to hear about how their coworkers arecommenting about how much nicer they are and
happier they look, and what's the magic trickthat's now going on.
So all of that research got me reallyinterested in, in gut health.
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And I remember when I was choosing my thesis atthe time, I was I I actually wanted at the time
to do the low FODMAP diet.
I was like, you know, this is gonna be the nextbig thing.
And my professors were like, no.
There's not enough research on it.
You shouldn't choose the low FODMAP diet.
No one knows about it.
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I've never heard about it.
And I was like, no.
I wanna do it.
And they were like, you don't you can't do thatone.
And funny enough, like, ten years later,everyone knows what the low FODMAP diet is, and
I was like, I should.
It's always been a huge passion of mine, and Ithen became a dietitian and opened my own
practice right after graduation.
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I I love that you you went that route, openyour own practice, and you went entrepreneurial
stuff.
Because, you know, a lot of dietitians getstuck in that medical system too.
Right?
Like, they just go work with a hospital system,and then it's just I mean, like, a hospital
nutritionist is giving people peanut butter andjelly's bedside.
Like you said, it's broken.
Right?
So you're you're, shifting the paradigm inanother direction, which is fantastic.
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So really, really love that.
I actually worked in a hospital for while I wasdoing my dietetic internship, and I remember my
like, the whole time I was like, I came in asan entrepreneur, and I was like, I'm going to
be an entrepreneur after this.
And my dietetic director, she was like, why areyou in one of the best clinical programs in
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this country if you're not gonna go clinical?
And I was like, because I need to learn what'sgoing on in those systems because all of my
patients have to understand and myself, like,we all go through that hospital system at some
point in our lives, and I need to understand itfrom the ground up.
I know I need to know internally how the teamsare working, how the dietitians are working in
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those teams, and that's why I love doing myinternship.
I hated it, but I loved, like, what I learnedout of it.
It was absolutely brutal, but I get it now.
Right?
Like, I get why the dietitians are feeding thempeanut butter sandwiches.
I get why they're feeding them ice creamsundaes.
Like, I get it.
If I was them, I would be doing the same thing.
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It's not because they want to be doing that.
It's because of how the system is set up thatthey have no better choice.
And at that point, when you're sick, caloriesare calories.
Like, we have to get something in them.
You know?
Yeah.
And that's where they're taught, and they kindajust follow that that model.
Right?
Like, very similar to many MDs.
And, again, like, I think doctors are are smartpeople for the most part, but you get taught
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what to think, right, versus how to think a lotof the of the time.
So I think, it's it's great to see people likeyourself, especially young people, like,
shifting that.
Right?
Like, we're kind of the next, I don't know,generation of of docs that are trying to do
something a little bit different and focus moreon the patient than the, like, the process.
This is right.
I recently saw a statistic that said, like,twenty six percent of doctors are going to
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leave the clinical setting in the next, like,five years or something.
Don't quote me on that, but it was somethingridiculous where it was like, people are
leaving the health.
I even my friend lives in, Boston and is adietitian up there in Boston Children's.
And she was saying, like, the turnover there atin the hospitals.
Like, no one wants to stay in hospitalsanymore.
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No one wants to work there.
Everyone's getting out as much as they can.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, like, what's the energy like in ahospital?
It's usually not great.
Right?
It's pretty negative.
It's very just I don't think people really get,like, healthier in a hospital.
Maybe they're, like, being saved from some kindof life threatening, like, injury or illness
acutely, but, like, you're not they're notultimately getting healthier.
Right?
And that that's gotta happen, honestly, like,at home, right, with your diet and and
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nutrition stuff, which is kinda segues rightinto what I wanted to ask.
Can you explain a little bit the the uniqueapproach that you have with the CorePerform
that, you know, helps people to optimize theirtheir metabolic and digestive health and and
how you kinda came up with that?
So while I was going through this, I kinda waslike, as a dietitian, what is the most
inclusive diet that I could create that wasleast inflammatory for the most amount of
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people?
Which means that, like, if I just gave it toJane May, who I don't even know Jane Doe.
That's the correct
I like May.
If I give it yeah.
Jane May.
If I give it to Jane May and I don't knowwhat's going on with her, will she see a
benefit from this diet?
And so what I did was I combined aspects ofpaleo, AIP, low histamine, low FODMAP.
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But what I did was those diets, a lot of themare actually they're not, like, changing any
carbohydrate intake or fat or protein intake.
Like, you can still eat all those things on allof the diets, but what changes is the specific
fruits and vegetables.
So I went through those lists and I made, like,a really, really, micronutrient dense foods
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list for my patients that's put into threecolumns a little bit mirrored from this WALLS
protocol.
If you've ever heard of the WALLS diet, whichis a clinical, evidence based.
She's done clinical trials on her diet,intervention.
And it's kind of picking up pieces of that aswell, where it's really focusing on the three
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phases of your liver detoxification system, bvitamins, antioxidants, and then proteins.
And, so I've created this diet.
Right?
And so everyone who comes to me, we typically,for the most part I mean, of course, there's
modulations based off the person, but we putthem on this elimination diet.
And as quickly as we can, we reintroduce thefood back into the diet.
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And the reason why we do this is because foodsensitivity tests are not accurate.
And the only true way to identify foodsensitivity and to heal from any food
sensitivities that might have come up is toeliminate and exchange whatever food that
you're eating.
So we see huge results without even needing todo expensive testing, put expensive supplements
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on you, do whatever it is.
It's truly a natural process that we try andfocus on.
I love that.
Yeah.
I do some some similar stuff in my practice,not as in-depth as you, but what's, like, the
buy in with patients?
Is that tough for you to get, you know, peopleto, hey.
Let's make sure we're eliminating this.
Is that what what's, like, what kind ofroadblocks do you come in into contact with?
Honestly, there's really it's not verydifficult for the first week or two.
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Right?
And the reason being that I think that mostpeople have there's really no roadblock to be
completely honest.
Yeah.
Because within the first week, people feel somuch better.
Like, I have people losing between zero to 10pounds.
I had a girl once lose 10 pounds of water.
I had her tracking her calories every day.
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I was like, you're hitting the same macro.
She came from a bodybuilding background.
She lost 10 pounds of water in a in a week.
I was like, how are you alive?
Like, how do
you Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That much information in your system?
Yeah.
I feel like one thing I love about you, youknow, there's a book.
I think they call it it's called the speed oftrust.
And it's one of those things when they'recoming to you, you're just, like, building that
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trust as fast as possible or already have itjust because, obviously, your background.
So they're coming to you and they're like,look.
I need help.
But the other thing that I love what you'resaying is, like, it's part of the reason why I
love doctor Lane Norton.
He's all about the science.
Give me the science first.
Like, I'm I'm I wanna be science forward.
I wanna figure out, like, the root, and thenand then we'll then we'll trace back, and and
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help you.
So this is another question.
In terms of, like, a hundred percent successrate in core perform.
Because, like, those when proteins, when we Itake proteins when I'm working out.
They majority of them do leave you bloated.
They there's some sort of digestive angle that,like, throws you off.
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But now you've helped over 500 clients.
I think it's more at this point in threemonths, but you've had a % success rate.
Can you share you've already shared a couple,but some inspiring stories or success
transformations that you've seen.
Do you wanna differentiate the differencebetween my protein supplement company and the
coaching side of the company?
Because Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Protein company, I only started because of myclients.
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Because when I started putting them on thiselimination, that was like, you know, the
basic, like, hey.
Let's not use processed whey proteins that makeyou fart all the time.
And they were like, okay, Dasha.
Well, what's the solution?
And I said, you know, I don't have one.
The plant based proteins on the market rightnow have heavy metals in them.
They have tons of gums and fillers, and they'refilled with, like, vegetable fibers and all
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this.
Like, the ingredients list is so long, and theamino acid intake is not optimized, which means
that I need you having double the amount.
Can you imagine someone with GI distress nowhaving to have double the amount of this chalky
protein and liking it?
Like, this just doesn't make sense.
So I was like, you know, I need to create anamino acid optimized formula that matches whey
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in a one to one scoop.
So just as much leucine, just as much essentialamino acids in this one scoop as this, whey
protein scoop does.
And that's why I created that that CorePerformformula that was top line, allergen friendly,
that could be digested, that didn't have gums,that didn't have artificial sweeteners, and
still tasted amazing.
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So that's why I created the CorePerform proteinpowder, but I do not require my patients to use
it at all.
I only use I only created it for them becausethey were asking me for that solution to begin
with.
And I say, hey.
This is one option, but, like, if you want totry beef isolate, you can try that.
I personally think that that tastes like metal,but you can try that.
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And, like, you can try all these other options.
That's awesome.
Nice.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, we've gone I've gonethrough in my past of, you know, being an
athlete, bodybuilding, and, like, just being ayou know, becoming a chiropractor and stuff.
I've gone through so many different brands ofproteins, and there's some I like better than
others.
But, you know, there's always, like Mhmm.
Yeah.
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Like, you're talking about the the toss-upbetween, like, ingredients that are most people
can't even pronounce it.
What the hell's in this thing?
And then is it coming from a clean source?
So that's fantastic.
I I I'm gonna I'm gonna get some of yourproduct too because I wanna try that.
Yeah.
For sure.
One thing I wanted to ask you too because I'veheard it in a previous podcast, and I'm so
interested because it's come up a number oftimes.
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And I, like, I'm always asked, like, why?
Why haven't why don't we know what a, like, ahealthy gut looks like?
Right?
One of those things we know what, like, anunhealthy gut looks like, but we don't know
what, like, what are the, like, the precursorsto make the healthy gut?
That's always been, like, a question for me.
Like, we know what a healthy artery looks like.
You know, a clean one.
Why can't we get to the point of, like, what ahealthy gut looks like?
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The reason being is because we have millionsand billions of these microbes and parasites
and yeast that create our microbe and or or ourmicrobiome.
And we would have to quantify and define everysingle strain in order for that to happen.
And we haven't even identified all the strains.
And they change
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Right.
On probably a week to week basis.
I mean, those strains are probably replicatingand creating new, like, strains on a monthly
basis in the population.
We don't know at this point.
I think that Harvard has done a great job withtheir human microbiome project.
So that's why we know a lot of the majorspecies families.
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We can't define quantitatively exactly whatconstitutes a healthy microbiome because we
just don't know enough yet.
And there's so much diversity biodiversitybetween people and from different places.
Right?
So, like, I have identical twin sons.
Most likely, their microbiomes are gonna bedifferent in some way.
Right?
Even though their identical twins are theirgenetics are the same.
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And, you know, we grew up in different areas,drinking different water, eating different
foods, different, like, social interactionsthat all influences it.
So there's yeah.
I I get what you're saying.
It's like, is it even possible?
Right?
Like, down the line.
Who would you define as the healthiest humanbeing to have the healthiest microbiome?
Is it the person that lived the longest, thathad the most kids, like, the female that was
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able to, like, reproduce as many times aspossible?
Like, what defines Which health reasons beenheathen.
I don't know.
I was watching this documentary on thecenturions, like, how to live to a hundred.
I don't know if you saw that, like, the bluezones.
Like, he went in and he, like, kinda measuredthings.
Yeah.
It was really interesting to see, but if I hadto say, I'd I'd look at those people's guts.
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I'd be like, those are the people I wanna lookat.
There was a there was a, like, a hundred yearold man in Costa Rica that was, like, hopping
up on a horse and just riding along.
He was a hundred and two.
I'm like, dude, I want that dude's gut.
I'm like, whatever that is.
But, dude, again, it's, like, also, like, thesoil in Costa Rica versus the soil in Sardinia,
Greece is, like, they're it's different.
Right?
So, like, their their crops are growing indifferent climates, different stuff.
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So they're you gotta imagine their microbiomeis gonna be different even though both these
guys are looked healthy at a hundred and two.
You know what I mean?
Like so, yeah, I I get what you're saying.
It's like like, how does how do we even start
Yeah.
Knowing that.
Well, just from a longevity perspective, Ialways think of of how it's not necessarily how
long I live, but how young I lived, right, tothe age.
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Right?
So if I'm 80 and I'm I'm living young, I kindawanna mimic, right, that as a staple and maybe
reverse engineer somebody that looks like thatversus somebody that gets to 80 or or even a
hundred.
Right?
But, man, they're not holding it together.
They're walking.
You know, I'd rather think of the imagery of,well, I got to 80, but I died as young as
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possible.
So from a longevity standpoint and how, like,we're learning Right.
Specifically from you, you know, just day afterday how important that gut layering is to the
rest of the body from an inflammatoryperspective.
It's, pretty pretty interesting.
Anyway, that was that was something that I'velearned over the past couple weeks.
I'm like, that'd be, that'd be cool.
Yeah.
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They've done.
So they have actually profiled, the microbiomeof, like, the Hadza population that they've
based the paleo diet off of, and they've alsodone a few more, profilings of I believe it's,
like, Italians and, other populations that seemto have the healthiest microbiome.
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So they're trying to put together the general,like, overviews and overlaps that they can see,
but still, we're not close to what exactquantitative amounts and what that really can
be defined as.
When you when you start talking about, like,these other countries and stuff, it's like they
have different standards than our country asfar as, like, what happens to the crop.
Right?
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Like, can I I I guess tell me your opinion onthis?
Like, somebody who is maybe especially glutenintolerant or sensitive to gluten here in this
country can somehow go to Italy and eat pastaand not have a reaction.
How much of that do you think?
And and, again, like, maybe we don't even knowthe answer, but how much of that do you think
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is actually the gluten or is this what they'respraying on the crops here in this country?
Right?
Even if you get organic, there's there's waterrunoff that can get into the soil and and, you
know, everything's basically laced nowadays.
Not a % sure, and I have not looked into theresearch on this.
However, I will say that when we haveallergenic reactions, we're reacting to the
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proteins.
Right?
So we're reacting to the proteins of thespecific crop that we're eating.
That's why people are allergic to fruits andvegetables.
When we react to it, we're responding to theproteins.
So I don't know that that specific species hasa different gluten creation, maybe.
I look at, like, a bodybuilding perspectivewhere if you repeatedly eat the same thing that
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is inflammatory, you will become sensitive toit.
A lot of people talk about this in bodybuildingwith, like, oats, for example, or something
like that.
And for us to say that it's the grain versusthe spray, I'm not sure.
Right.
Yeah.
There's been a recent study that said thatpeople who eat more fruits and vegetables in
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our country live longer.
And what's sprayed with glyphosate?
They had the highest amount of fruits andvegetables and of glyphosate in their system,
and they lived the longest.
So is that saying that glyphosate is safe?
And fruits and vegetables, no matter what, willmake you feel better?
Like, taking that knowledge and then applyingit to is it the spraying when we go abroad?
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I don't think we know the answer yet.
I would only assume that it has to do more withspecific species that we're consuming in in The
US, and I think that it has more to do withthat versus something abroad.
I don't wanna go off this topic because youmentioned something that I'd we didn't have in
our questions that I definitely wanna tap intois the bodybuilding.
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How did you get into that?
Like, how did you what was the antithesis?
Was that something like that it was alwaysprogrammed, and you're like, oh, I wanna get
into that?
Yeah.
I'm an optimizer.
I nerded out in college, so I
talked to
you about this call here.
I love optimizing, so I was looking at, like,what is the healthiest diet and what is the
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most effective effective exercise forlongevity?
And I think that during college, I was reallyfocusing on looks.
Right?
And at then and while I was going throughcollege, I realized, you know, fits has nothing
to do with how you look and everything.
And the I think because of bodybuilding, once Ikinda left that chapter almost, I was like,
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fitness is nothing about bodybuilding.
Fitness is about how long you live and how manytimes you can reproduce.
That in a biological standpoint is exactly whatfitness is.
How many offspring you can have and how longyou can live in order to come continue to have
those offspring and nurture a family.
So at that point, I was like, that's whatfitness is.
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And that's when I started focusing a little bitmore on adding in in hormone integration and
optimizing hormones and wanting to make sure weadd that into our gut and hormone life.
And I think that overall, what I've learnedfrom everything that I've studied and even,
like, diet and lifestyle and all the patientsI've seen is that there is a huge mental
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component and that every single one of those,like, blue zone communities, it's the
community.
The peep in a community last the longest.
They have the least amount of stress.
They are passively active.
They have stress resilience because they justthey can be stressed, and then they don't feel
stressed throughout the day.
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Like, they have a we have a siesta in themiddle of the day.
You know?
Like, we Three.
They're relaxed.
For sure.
And in The US, we live under constant pressure.
We have
so much to do.
So are you up at 4AM to get to your yourfamily?
That is
the opposite of what longevity is.
Right?
Yeah.
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That perspective is awesome becausebodybuilders and people who are performing like
these athletes like you did bikini shows.
Right?
Like, you get down to that, especially as a asa female, you get down to that, like, 10% body
fat.
Mhmm.
That is extremely low for a woman.
Hormones are gonna be dysregulated, right,because your body has to prioritize other
things, right, like keeping you alive and andyour your metabolism and stuff.
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So you're not gonna be primed for gettingpregnant and having children in that physical
state.
So, like, you said, is that fitness?
You might look amazing.
Right?
You might look like the specimen of a human,but, you know, what's the longevity, and how
many children can you produce that that exact,example you just made?
That that's a great way to look at it.
I've never actually thought of it like that.
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So thank you.
That's fantastic.
Yeah.
That's so cool to think of, like, fitness.
That is fitness.
Like, you said those words.
Like, that is that is true fitness.
I'd love that.
I mean, more people are moving into thatmobility style training.
I think, like, we can body build from, like, 20to 35.
And then once you hit 35, like, you reallygotta hit the mobility aspects, like, the Tai
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Chi kinda thing.
Like
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gotta start stress like, lowering stress,getting the gentle movements going, getting
ready for that kind of exercise.
My favorite trend right now that I've seen onsocial media is, like, the dad, like, filming
himself working out.
He's like, I don't work out to be thehealthiest guy or to be the fittest.
He's like, I work out so I can dominate my kidsfor in any in a athletic endeavor for as long
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as possible.
And I saw that.
I was like, that's awesome, man.
It's like being able whatever it is.
Right?
Whether it's, like, hiking up a mountain or,like, going for a run or swim.
You know?
Like, you gotta be well rounded and, like, youcan be in the best physical looking shape,
like, six pack, all that.
But if you can't bend over to pick up your kidwithout herniating a disc, how healthy are you?
Right?
Like alright.
So we we got a question here.
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This is a little bit shifted from from, like,the gut health stuff, but, you know, you're an
entrepreneur.
Right?
Being an entrepreneur is very demanding.
Right?
We're both entrepreneurs as well.
How do you balance that entrepreneurial lifeand those endeavors with the personal life with
the health and your own health?
Do you have aspiring entrepreneurs looking tomaintain a healthy work life balance that come
to you and maybe you coach them through thatkind of stuff as well?
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So I've been through, like, all phases ofentrepreneurship, and I think that every
entrepreneur has phases of isolation, and everyentrepreneur has, like, an epiphany and a a
realization of what balance truly looks like intheir life.
And the key to that is always community, in myopinion.
And I don't know if you guys have experiencedtoo because It's
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up.
When you're in the isolation, it might be agood point for you.
Right?
Like, maybe you're grinding, you're buildingthe business, etcetera, but you can't you can
build the business, but you can't grow thebusiness until you start talking to people,
laughing more, having that community, relaxingbecause you'll burn out.
Yep.
We'll burn out if you don't step out of thatzone.
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And so I think that's, like, my biggesttakeaway of it is being an entrepreneur.
And, like, now I just recently, like, three orfour weeks ago moved in with some of my best
friends.
One of them is an entrepreneur.
One of them is actually does, like, m and a foran a big company here.
So he knows a lot about, like, financialbusinesses and buying businesses and what makes
a good business, scaling a business.
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Cool.
And living with other entrepreneurs is a gamechanger.
Mhmm.
Mhmm.
Because now even every single week, we have wehave a team meeting on Sundays.
And on Sundays, we talk about all our houserules, about everything else, but we also talk
about our businesses.
And we get feedback from each other, and we getnew ideas from each other, and we're constantly
supporting each other to grow.
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And I think that that kind of environmentspecifically for entrepreneurs is so so
valuable and why I think the future ofentrepreneurship is gonna be more of these,
like, masterminds versus everyone working ontheir own thing and and getting angry at each
other or, like, competing against each other.
It's gonna be more like, hey.
We're all doing the same thing.
Like, let's talk to each other and growtogether because I don't wanna waste my time
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learning about what email copy has the bestopen rate if you've already spent three months
on that and have data.
Right.
You know?
Why learn something that somebody else can, youknow, kinda give you insight on?
And it doesn't have to be that lonely life,right, that, like, that is so portrayed.
It's like the entrepreneur grind is this lonelyhead down.
Because, like, I've almost burned out twice inmy business.
Like, in a I know what it feels like whenyou're just, like, not feeling that purpose,
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not feeling that that love for what you'redoing, not really wanting to go to work in the
morning.
It's not great, man.
And, like, you're like, damn, my name's on thedoor.
I kinda have to go now.
So it's like you know?
But, yeah, having the community is is huge.
That's awesome.
Another big thing that you had mentioned inthere, and it's just like it's part of the
reason why Alfie and I love doing this.
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Laughing.
Like, laughing is such a key component tolongevity of just, like, genuinely enjoying
the, like, laugh being intentional aboutlaughing and having a good time.
Yeah.
That, like, brings so much joy.
Ed Mylett was talking about this.
I got coached by him last year, and he was justlike, you're always chasing a feeling.
Right?
And laughter brings out a feeling that's, like,unparalleled to anything else.
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It's just like when you can laugh with peopleand just genuinely have that good time, like,
when you say that is fitness, like, that ishappiness, laughing.
It also will increase your full tone.
So it also will increase your vagal tone, andyour gut health will thank you.
Boom.
Look at that, everybody.
Laughing for it.
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Yeah.
So that that is also another big thing, that Iwanna tap into even a little bit more because
you said community.
Right?
Community is everything for you, but thenyou're also building community for other people
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and how important that is for, like,collaboration and to grow together and get
healthier together.
How has that been for you?
How how has Ben building what the core performcommunity that's utilizing your product because
that is a community of itself.
And then, obviously, your coaching side ofbuilding that community and elevating each
other and really getting people to respond.
Right?
Like, that cultivating piece.
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How has that been for you, and what's that beenlike?
Oh, there's so many things I can talk aboutthat we do.
I think the support is the biggest thing andjust knowing that you're not alone, especially
when you're sick is, like, showing up andfeeling like the first question people ask me,
how long will this how long until I feelbetter?
And the truth is I can't I can't tell you howlong until you feel better, honestly, because a
(32:59):
lot of people like, there's a fifty fifty shoton anything, even prescription medication for a
lot of those prescription medications.
Like, sometimes doctors just throw something atyou to see if it works.
And then if it doesn't, they'll change it upand use something else.
There's
there's a lot of things that every person'sthey will just respond differently to.
And so while you're teetering with that, it'sso important to have other people who have who
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can keep you motivated and who can say like,oh, yeah.
That that really helped me.
Or I really love this recipe because when I hadwas really had a stomachache, like, this really
helped me.
And making that community to have that support,making you feel less alone is truly what
building the community is all about, and havingfun.
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Like, having fun in the process.
So with our athletes for core perform, and ifanyone's listening to this and wants to be one
of our affiliates and athletes, we're alwayswelcoming new ones, but we have a WhatsApp
group.
And, like, I'll always, like, tell them, like,hey.
I'm debating between new flavors, like this oneor this one, and they get to vote on it.
Or they'll Cool.
Make new reels.
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And then we have, like, this competition everymonth, and we send them a PDF of, like, fun
challenges.
And they win free protein, and they win free,like, other things that we partner with other
companies for.
So just make it fun and make it supportive andgive as much as you can.
And I think that that builds community andcamaraderie.
We have a a similar mission too is trying togrow a community of people that are very like
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minded.
We're gonna be rolling out a a program in maybeby the time this episode airs, we'll be ready,
but, we're gonna call it the optimizersprogram.
And it's basically for people who are lookingto maybe, you know, maybe they're dialed in in
a lot of areas of their life, but notoptimized, and we're trying to take it to the
next level.
It's gonna be for high level people, maybemostly entrepreneurs or, people who have
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achieved success in many other areas, but maybetheir health has been on the side.
But it's gonna be a community.
So you're gonna have access to everyone else.
You're gonna be able to say, hey.
What are you struggling with?
And there's gonna be a lot of sharing, and it'sjust gonna be open open cohort forum where, you
know, you're you got accountability, and youalso have, like, you can be vulnerable and say,
hey.
I'm not feeling it today.
Like, who else is you know?
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You're not on your own doing it.
Right?
Like, I think a lot of the the struggles I'vehad at least with with, you know, doing any
kind of, like, nutrition coaching with patientshas been.
And even with chiropractic, it's like that buyin when they're on their own and me constantly
having to reaffirm reaffirm, hey.
You're you're doing well.
You're doing okay.
We're gonna get through this.
Right?
But when they got when you got someone doing itwith you, like, if I get, like, say, a a
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husband and wife come in for chiropractic careand they're doing it together and I put them on
a similar protocol where they're coming intwice a week together, the results are always
better.
It really is.
And I I should I should get a study done or dosome, like, internal work on, like, the
numbers.
But when you have, like, accountability buddy,man, it's it's night and day for sure.
Accountability will transform people's livesand make sure that there's different theories
(35:54):
of behavior change.
I took an entire class on it in my master's
Yes.
That that but there's, like, externalmotivators, internal motivators.
And in order to get to the external or theinternal, like, habit routine building, you
have to sometimes have, like, an externalmotivator like a friend or an accountability
partner who will get you there.
You you typically work one on one, or do youbring them collectively in the community almost
(36:18):
right away?
Or do you work with them one on one and thenbringing them into the community?
We have weekly calls in our community.
And then on top of that, if they want the extrasupport, and then on top of that, we have the
one on one check-in.
So they get the opportunity to feel part of acommunity.
Like, this on Monday, we did vision boardingfor 2024.
So we talked all about resolutions and whathappened last year, what we can look forward to
(36:44):
next year, and how we can create, OKRs for thatoutcome.
Are you
an EOS, entrepreneur organizational system, torun your KPIs and OKRs and
I do it myself.
You do it yourself.
I love it.
As a fellow entrepreneur, I am a lawyer.
I'm the lawyer.
I'm the operations manager.
I'm the cook.
I am the everything in the business.
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Are you familiar with traction?
Are you familiar, like, with any o the OSmodel?
You ever you ever read those?
Oh, really?
They're they're pretty good books.
So there's a book called Traction
I'll have it.
And that's scaling up by, Verne Harnish.
He's he's really good.
He's based out of Colorado.
But all these practical things, but that you'retalking about.
But, like, I do them personally.
So we actually, I met with, some guys thismorning, including Alfie, and we kinda have a
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scorecard of life that we build out things.
And those are kind of our OKRs and our KPIs forthe week of how we're focusing on faith,
family, relationship, finance, and business,and fitness, and health.
So we wanna make sure we're queuing those upand measuring those on a weekly basis.
But then in business, obviously, I wanna knowhow my you know, the sales department's doing,
the marketing department, the operations, andthen the finance.
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So that's, that was just from anentrepreneurship question, I wanted to tap into
real quick.
But you've had a, you've had a lot of accoladesand recognitions throughout your career.
So and it's short.
You're young.
Aren't you you're how how old are you, Rena?
Twenty nine.
You're 29.
You're so young.
It's still
And you've just had, remarkable, obviously,acceleration in your field.
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I love the research piece.
What achievements stand out for you, like, justright now and then that it from the past?
And then what what do you got on the horizon?
What what are you thinking of?
What next year and then maybe in the nextcouple years?
But what's one thing that really stands out toyou?
And then what do you what do you got some, whatwhat are some things that are coming up that
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you're really excited about?
So I've never felt proud in my life.
I think that this may be actually a commonthing with females and especially who have this
type a personality.
Like, I've never really felt out of my lifeexcept for one moment.
And that one moment was when I graduated Tufts,because so many people bash colleges and
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schools at nowadays.
They're like, no one needs that.
Honestly, that school changed my life.
They gave me opportunity and I'm foreverindebted for that opportunity and for those
connections and for the research and for theknowledge that they gave me.
And so graduating from that and feeling a partof that community, feeling a part of, like, a
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higher level of standards, feeling a part of,yeah, we have the White House on on the other
line, and we are all in a room with Kellogg andCampbell.
Like, giving me that opportunity to take me tothat higher level and graduating from that
school, that's the proudest moment I think I'vefelt.
And then second to that would be when Iactually won the pitch competition a year or
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two later, was I cried as I was when I didthat.
That's awesome.
That's so cool to hear about that.
What do you what do you have in the works forCorePerform and for your and for your coaching
program?
Like, what what are things that you're lookingin future tense?
Maybe some goals, that you have.
And it could be clients, or what what what aresome things that you're thinking of in the
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future?
We have some fun ideas.
I and and I and this is purely, like, socialmedia and reach, and we can get into the nitty
gritty of things.
But I think I we're we're looking to expand oursocial networks in the next the next year.
So we're looking at into more Facebookutilization, which I know a lot of people are
(40:31):
actually staying away from, but also YouTube.
And so we're just trying to test out thewaters, and I think entrepreneurship is
constantly a, like, a risk.
You kinda have to take risks in in differentareas and grow different channels.
So I think we've mastered Instagram at thispoint, and now it's a matter of okay.
We've had systems and operations set forInstagram.
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Let's now open up and now add a YouTubecomponent.
Now add whatever else component, a TikTokcomponent, whatever else.
And so we can increase our lead gen.
So that's what we're working on from a businessperspective, part of the next year, I think.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
Socials is such a massive strategy.
Yeah.
But then also, like, that piece and I wannafocus on this a little bit because, like, that
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product element that, like, that touches mebecause I feel like I have a really hard time
with that of enjoying the process so much that,like, I get these daily pride moments every
day.
I'm, like, trying to go back to that of, like,I like, man, I'm I was actually proud of
yesterday.
Like, I like, not one of those things where I'mconstantly driving forward.
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But literally, I'm going through this, like,scenario even even the, like, this week, right,
of, like, I'm so forward, forward bound that,like, these proud moments should be happening,
like, more often, I feel like.
Because we talk about that longevity componentof just being able to laugh and Yeah.
And enjoy that process of the journey.
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I don't wanna get to the point where, I'm I Ilike bringing this Tom Brady analogy, but,
like, when the next ring's always the best one,I wanna be able to process things, like, kind
of, like, as they happen and as things slowdown.
What's your, just what's your take on that?
You made me think of, like, gratitude gratitudejournaling.
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And Yeah.
I can tell my I am telling every single day.
I'm so freaking blessed of what I do.
I get to help so many people, and it made methink, what is the difference between gratitude
and pride?
And so I think gratitude and pride, they'reslightly different in that gratitude you are
thankful and grateful for the place that you'vebeen.
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Pride is taking accountability that youyourself have gotten you to this point.
Right?
It's more about you there's, like, a youcomponent versus anything else.
That's great.
Great perspective on that.
Hey.
So we we've loved having you on here.
This conversation was awesome.
This is the the best one we've had, man.
I wanna ask you one last question.
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We usually ask this of everyone that comes onthe show.
So we at Full Fueled here talk about, like, howare we living our life fully fueled?
We have these six pillars that we focus on,fuel, movement, sleep, mind, so, like, mindset,
work and purpose, and then spirit.
Tell me a little bit about, like, what doesthat mean to you to be full fueled, and and how
does that, how do you see yourself living yourlife full fueled?
(43:28):
I love that because we have the same verysimilar ones at CorePerform.
We have CorePerform five pillars, sleep,personal stress, environmental stress,
exercise, and diet.
And once you've mastered the stressors of thosefive things, you're living life free.
And so if I were to say what does living lifefully fueled mean, it means you're living life
free, full of love, and full of giving love.
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That was a knockout answer.
I love that.
Can you tell, the listeners a little bit about,you know, where they can learn more about you
online, website, Instagram, all of it?
Just kinda plug yourself here.
Absolutely.
So my Instagram is Dasha Fitness, d a s h afitness.
And then our website is coreperform.com.
And if you're interested in trying the protein,you can head right to our website.
(44:13):
You can get 15% off on your first order.
And we're on Amazon as well.
And you can always shoot me an email.
All my links and everything is gonna be linkedbelow.
I'm sure.
Everyone listening needs to follow Dasha Yeah.
At Dasha Fitness because
I'm a good man.
And it is like pure value.
Yeah.
Like, she she puts a lot of effort into herInstagram feed to provide a tremendous amount
(44:37):
of value.
So I couldn't encourage it more.
Please go follow her because she is absolutelyjust at, like, free value driven.
So if there's anyone you follow, please gofollow Dasha.
She's amazing.
Thank you so much.
And you're reminding me that we do have a freevalue opportunity.
If you guys wanna try out the core perform dietyourselves, we're gonna be running a challenge
(44:59):
next month.
January 7 is when we'll start.
So definitely head to my page becauseregistration will open the January, and we'll
be giving out free, like, coaching training fora whole week altogether in a WhatsApp community
and giving you all the recipes you need, how totackle your health, and all the things.
So if you want free for the next year, you canjoin us then.
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Well, awesome.
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Hey.
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Back?
Good day, man.
Exciting stuff here.
Got a got a We got
a special guest with us today.
I'm super excited.
I'm actually really excited.
Yeah.
It's, it's been a long time coming.
So ladies and gentlemen, today, we have theprivilege of welcoming you a true powerhouse in
the fields of nutrition, entrepreneurship, andeducation.
So we're gonna we're gonna fill you in on allthree of those.
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Our guest, Dasha Angulich, is a trailblazerwhose remarkable achievements have left an
indebble mark on the world of nutrition and guthealth, which we're gonna be focusing on both
of those, and we're gonna be focusing on,obviously, the entrepreneurship piece because
she is amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tell a little bit about her.
Dasha is a registered dietitian, five timepublished nutrition researcher, two time award
(02:12):
winning bikini athlete.
That's awesome.
She graduated from the top nutrition graduateprogram in the country, Tufts University, a
Friedman School.
Her research and coaching focuses on optimizingmetabolic and digestive health through
nutrition and exercise.
Core core perform has helped over 500 peopleand growing.
Right?
You're still you're still building this, andyou get results in just three months with a
(02:34):
hundred percent success rate.
That's fantastic.
I love that those stats right there.
She recently won Friedman's one hundredthousand pitch competition for her patent
pending protein, which I wanna hear a lot moreabout, and was welcomed into The US Food And
Innovation Council with leaders in the industrylike Kellogg, Campbell, and Nestle.
That's freaking huge.
That's awesome.
Dasha, how are you?
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Welcome to the show.
Good.
Thank you guys for having me.
How are you guys doing?
We're doing awesome.
We are blessed today.
We're blessed to be on Friday.
It's a chilly day here in Tampa, Florida.
How's the how's the weather out there?
It's 46, but
Oh, dang.
This is weird.
We we wake up at with, like, 40 degrees, and byby afternoon, the sun heats us up to, to, like,
(03:15):
72.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's that's Florida.
That's like Tampa right now.
We call that, like, 75, 50 five, I feel like.
So I wanna dig in.
We wanna get nerdy today.
But then we also wanna get like, I wanna Iwanna hear the entrepreneurship side as well.
But, you know, our focus is living full fueled,so we wanna make sure we focus on the pillars.
And that is the main thing is gut health.
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Gut health is so important, and, we know you'rean expert in that area.
So we wanna focus on that.
But, we also my first question is, can youshare a bit about your journey in the field of
nutrition and specifically gut health, fromyour academic side at maybe Tufts and and how,
like, how the thing evolved, the being cameabout, then also to the founding of
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CorePerform.
So if you could just give us a littlebackground there.
Sure thing.
So, my background is in nutrition research.
So I got my master's in nutritionalepidemiology from Tufts Nutrition, which is a
really fancy way of saying, how diet affectsdisease.
And so my thesis at Tufts was looking at thepaleo diet.
How was it created?
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Who created this concept?
Is it actually valid based off of the researchthat we have around it, which it's not?
Like, we didn't as human populations, we didn'treally eat like they say we did.
The research says that we ate, like, a 10 gramsof fiber a day, and and that's not realistic,
(04:44):
which I can go into in a later on.
But, my research really focused on the paleodiet.
And at that time, I was getting diagnosed withceliac disease.
So I was going through my own gut issues atthat time, dealing with battling with doctors.
I remember one time I was sitting in Bostontraffic with if if any of you are from Boston,
you know that this is, like, a two hour, you'restuck in head to head car.
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I remember having such a spasm and, like,stabbing pain in my stomach.
I almost like, I was stuck because I was like,do I call an ambulance?
Because it's gonna take them just as long toget to me right now in the middle of traffic,
Or do I try and make it the at another thirtyminutes to the next exit?
Like, I was in so much pain during that time,and that really fueled a lot of my interest in
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gut health and understanding why the system isso broken in terms of the medical system.
I was wanting to be a doctor, and then, youknow, I was like, you know what?
I wanna be a dietitian because I can changepeople's lifestyle and diet in order to improve
their health.
I don't have to have them get on a medication.
I can actually change their life.
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And that is the most rewarding part of what Ido is I get to transform the actual human
being.
After people work with me, I get to see thebrightness that changes in their in their life.
I get to hear about how their coworkers arecommenting about how much nicer they are and
happier they look, and what's the magic trickthat's now going on.
So all of that research got me reallyinterested in, in gut health.
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And I remember when I was choosing my thesis atthe time, I was I I actually wanted at the time
to do the low FODMAP diet.
I was like, you know, this is gonna be the nextbig thing.
And my professors were like, no.
There's not enough research on it.
You shouldn't choose the low FODMAP diet.
No one knows about it.
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I've never heard about it.
And I was like, no.
I wanna do it.
And they were like, you don't you can't do thatone.
And funny enough, like, ten years later,everyone knows what the low FODMAP diet is, and
I was like, I should.
It's always been a huge passion of mine, and Ithen became a dietitian and opened my own
practice right after graduation.
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I I love that you you went that route, openyour own practice, and you went entrepreneurial
stuff.
Because, you know, a lot of dietitians getstuck in that medical system too.
Right?
Like, they just go work with a hospital system,and then it's just I mean, like, a hospital
nutritionist is giving people peanut butter andjelly's bedside.
Like you said, it's broken.
Right?
So you're you're, shifting the paradigm inanother direction, which is fantastic.
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So really, really love that.
I actually worked in a hospital for while I wasdoing my dietetic internship, and I remember my
like, the whole time I was like, I came in asan entrepreneur, and I was like, I'm going to
be an entrepreneur after this.
And my dietetic director, she was like, why areyou in one of the best clinical programs in
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this country if you're not gonna go clinical?
And I was like, because I need to learn what'sgoing on in those systems because all of my
patients have to understand and myself, like,we all go through that hospital system at some
point in our lives, and I need to understand itfrom the ground up.
I know I need to know internally how the teamsare working, how the dietitians are working in
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those teams, and that's why I love doing myinternship.
I hated it, but I loved, like, what I learnedout of it.
It was absolutely brutal, but I get it now.
Right?
Like, I get why the dietitians are feeding thempeanut butter sandwiches.
I get why they're feeding them ice creamsundaes.
Like, I get it.
If I was them, I would be doing the same thing.
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It's not because they want to be doing that.
It's because of how the system is set up thatthey have no better choice.
And at that point, when you're sick, caloriesare calories.
Like, we have to get something in them.
You know?
Yeah.
And that's where they're taught, and they kindajust follow that that model.
Right?
Like, very similar to many MDs.
And, again, like, I think doctors are are smartpeople for the most part, but you get taught
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what to think, right, versus how to think a lotof the of the time.
So I think, it's it's great to see people likeyourself, especially young people, like,
shifting that.
Right?
Like, we're kind of the next, I don't know,generation of of docs that are trying to do
something a little bit different and focus moreon the patient than the, like, the process.
This is right.
I recently saw a statistic that said, like,twenty six percent of doctors are going to
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leave the clinical setting in the next, like,five years or something.
Don't quote me on that, but it was somethingridiculous where it was like, people are
leaving the health.
I even my friend lives in, Boston and is adietitian up there in Boston Children's.
And she was saying, like, the turnover there atin the hospitals.
Like, no one wants to stay in hospitalsanymore.
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No one wants to work there.
Everyone's getting out as much as they can.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, like, what's the energy like in ahospital?
It's usually not great.
Right?
It's pretty negative.
It's very just I don't think people really get,like, healthier in a hospital.
Maybe they're, like, being saved from some kindof life threatening, like, injury or illness
acutely, but, like, you're not they're notultimately getting healthier.
Right?
And that that's gotta happen, honestly, like,at home, right, with your diet and and
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nutrition stuff, which is kinda segues rightinto what I wanted to ask.
Can you explain a little bit the the uniqueapproach that you have with the CorePerform
that, you know, helps people to optimize theirtheir metabolic and digestive health and and
how you kinda came up with that?
So while I was going through this, I kinda waslike, as a dietitian, what is the most
inclusive diet that I could create that wasleast inflammatory for the most amount of
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people?
Which means that, like, if I just gave it toJane May, who I don't even know Jane Doe.
That's the correct
I like May.
If I give it yeah.
Jane May.
If I give it to Jane May and I don't knowwhat's going on with her, will she see a
benefit from this diet?
And so what I did was I combined aspects ofpaleo, AIP, low histamine, low FODMAP.
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But what I did was those diets, a lot of themare actually they're not, like, changing any
carbohydrate intake or fat or protein intake.
Like, you can still eat all those things on allof the diets, but what changes is the specific
fruits and vegetables.
So I went through those lists and I made, like,a really, really, micronutrient dense foods
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list for my patients that's put into threecolumns a little bit mirrored from this WALLS
protocol.
If you've ever heard of the WALLS diet, whichis a clinical, evidence based.
She's done clinical trials on her diet,intervention.
And it's kind of picking up pieces of that aswell, where it's really focusing on the three
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phases of your liver detoxification system, bvitamins, antioxidants, and then proteins.
And, so I've created this diet.
Right?
And so everyone who comes to me, we typically,for the most part I mean, of course, there's
modulations based off the person, but we putthem on this elimination diet.
And as quickly as we can, we reintroduce thefood back into the diet.
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And the reason why we do this is because foodsensitivity tests are not accurate.
And the only true way to identify foodsensitivity and to heal from any food
sensitivities that might have come up is toeliminate and exchange whatever food that
you're eating.
So we see huge results without even needing todo expensive testing, put expensive supplements
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on you, do whatever it is.
It's truly a natural process that we try andfocus on.
I love that.
Yeah.
I do some some similar stuff in my practice,not as in-depth as you, but what's, like, the
buy in with patients?
Is that tough for you to get, you know, peopleto, hey.
Let's make sure we're eliminating this.
Is that what what's, like, what kind ofroadblocks do you come in into contact with?
Honestly, there's really it's not verydifficult for the first week or two.
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Right?
And the reason being that I think that mostpeople have there's really no roadblock to be
completely honest.
Yeah.
Because within the first week, people feel somuch better.
Like, I have people losing between zero to 10pounds.
I had a girl once lose 10 pounds of water.
I had her tracking her calories every day.
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I was like, you're hitting the same macro.
She came from a bodybuilding background.
She lost 10 pounds of water in a in a week.
I was like, how are you alive?
Like, how do
you Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That much information in your system?
Yeah.
I feel like one thing I love about you, youknow, there's a book.
I think they call it it's called the speed oftrust.
And it's one of those things when they'recoming to you, you're just, like, building that
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trust as fast as possible or already have itjust because, obviously, your background.
So they're coming to you and they're like,look.
I need help.
But the other thing that I love what you'resaying is, like, it's part of the reason why I
love doctor Lane Norton.
He's all about the science.
Give me the science first.
Like, I'm I'm I wanna be science forward.
I wanna figure out, like, the root, and thenand then we'll then we'll trace back, and and
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help you.
So this is another question.
In terms of, like, a hundred percent successrate in core perform.
Because, like, those when proteins, when we Itake proteins when I'm working out.
They majority of them do leave you bloated.
They there's some sort of digestive angle that,like, throws you off.
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But now you've helped over 500 clients.
I think it's more at this point in threemonths, but you've had a % success rate.
Can you share you've already shared a couple,but some inspiring stories or success
transformations that you've seen.
Do you wanna differentiate the differencebetween my protein supplement company and the
coaching side of the company?
Because Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Protein company, I only started because of myclients.
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Because when I started putting them on thiselimination, that was like, you know, the
basic, like, hey.
Let's not use processed whey proteins that makeyou fart all the time.
And they were like, okay, Dasha.
Well, what's the solution?
And I said, you know, I don't have one.
The plant based proteins on the market rightnow have heavy metals in them.
They have tons of gums and fillers, and they'refilled with, like, vegetable fibers and all
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this.
Like, the ingredients list is so long, and theamino acid intake is not optimized, which means
that I need you having double the amount.
Can you imagine someone with GI distress nowhaving to have double the amount of this chalky
protein and liking it?
Like, this just doesn't make sense.
So I was like, you know, I need to create anamino acid optimized formula that matches whey
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in a one to one scoop.
So just as much leucine, just as much essentialamino acids in this one scoop as this, whey
protein scoop does.
And that's why I created that that CorePerformformula that was top line, allergen friendly,
that could be digested, that didn't have gums,that didn't have artificial sweeteners, and
still tasted amazing.
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So that's why I created the CorePerform proteinpowder, but I do not require my patients to use
it at all.
I only use I only created it for them becausethey were asking me for that solution to begin
with.
And I say, hey.
This is one option, but, like, if you want totry beef isolate, you can try that.
I personally think that that tastes like metal,but you can try that.
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And, like, you can try all these other options.
That's awesome.
Nice.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, we've gone I've gonethrough in my past of, you know, being an
athlete, bodybuilding, and, like, just being ayou know, becoming a chiropractor and stuff.
I've gone through so many different brands ofproteins, and there's some I like better than
others.
But, you know, there's always, like Mhmm.
Yeah.
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Like, you're talking about the the toss-upbetween, like, ingredients that are most people
can't even pronounce it.
What the hell's in this thing?
And then is it coming from a clean source?
So that's fantastic.
I I I'm gonna I'm gonna get some of yourproduct too because I wanna try that.
Yeah.
For sure.
One thing I wanted to ask you too because I'veheard it in a previous podcast, and I'm so
interested because it's come up a number oftimes.
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And I, like, I'm always asked, like, why?
Why haven't why don't we know what a, like, ahealthy gut looks like?
Right?
One of those things we know what, like, anunhealthy gut looks like, but we don't know
what, like, what are the, like, the precursorsto make the healthy gut?
That's always been, like, a question for me.
Like, we know what a healthy artery looks like.
You know, a clean one.
Why can't we get to the point of, like, what ahealthy gut looks like?
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The reason being is because we have millionsand billions of these microbes and parasites
and yeast that create our microbe and or or ourmicrobiome.
And we would have to quantify and define everysingle strain in order for that to happen.
And we haven't even identified all the strains.
And they change
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Right.
On probably a week to week basis.
I mean, those strains are probably replicatingand creating new, like, strains on a monthly
basis in the population.
We don't know at this point.
I think that Harvard has done a great job withtheir human microbiome project.
So that's why we know a lot of the majorspecies families.
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We can't define quantitatively exactly whatconstitutes a healthy microbiome because we
just don't know enough yet.
And there's so much diversity biodiversitybetween people and from different places.
Right?
So, like, I have identical twin sons.
Most likely, their microbiomes are gonna bedifferent in some way.
Right?
Even though their identical twins are theirgenetics are the same.
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And, you know, we grew up in different areas,drinking different water, eating different
foods, different, like, social interactionsthat all influences it.
So there's yeah.
I I get what you're saying.
It's like, is it even possible?
Right?
Like, down the line.
Who would you define as the healthiest humanbeing to have the healthiest microbiome?
Is it the person that lived the longest, thathad the most kids, like, the female that was
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able to, like, reproduce as many times aspossible?
Like, what defines Which health reasons beenheathen.
I don't know.
I was watching this documentary on thecenturions, like, how to live to a hundred.
I don't know if you saw that, like, the bluezones.
Like, he went in and he, like, kinda measuredthings.
Yeah.
It was really interesting to see, but if I hadto say, I'd I'd look at those people's guts.
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I'd be like, those are the people I wanna lookat.
There was a there was a, like, a hundred yearold man in Costa Rica that was, like, hopping
up on a horse and just riding along.
He was a hundred and two.
I'm like, dude, I want that dude's gut.
I'm like, whatever that is.
But, dude, again, it's, like, also, like, thesoil in Costa Rica versus the soil in Sardinia,
Greece is, like, they're it's different.
Right?
So, like, their their crops are growing indifferent climates, different stuff.
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So they're you gotta imagine their microbiomeis gonna be different even though both these
guys are looked healthy at a hundred and two.
You know what I mean?
Like so, yeah, I I get what you're saying.
It's like like, how does how do we even start
Yeah.
Knowing that.
Well, just from a longevity perspective, Ialways think of of how it's not necessarily how
long I live, but how young I lived, right, tothe age.
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Right?
So if I'm 80 and I'm I'm living young, I kindawanna mimic, right, that as a staple and maybe
reverse engineer somebody that looks like thatversus somebody that gets to 80 or or even a
hundred.
Right?
But, man, they're not holding it together.
They're walking.
You know, I'd rather think of the imagery of,well, I got to 80, but I died as young as
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possible.
So from a longevity standpoint and how, like,we're learning Right.
Specifically from you, you know, just day afterday how important that gut layering is to the
rest of the body from an inflammatoryperspective.
It's, pretty pretty interesting.
Anyway, that was that was something that I'velearned over the past couple weeks.
I'm like, that'd be, that'd be cool.
Yeah.
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They've done.
So they have actually profiled, the microbiomeof, like, the Hadza population that they've
based the paleo diet off of, and they've alsodone a few more, profilings of I believe it's,
like, Italians and, other populations that seemto have the healthiest microbiome.
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So they're trying to put together the general,like, overviews and overlaps that they can see,
but still, we're not close to what exactquantitative amounts and what that really can
be defined as.
When you when you start talking about, like,these other countries and stuff, it's like they
have different standards than our country asfar as, like, what happens to the crop.
Right?
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Like, can I I I guess tell me your opinion onthis?
Like, somebody who is maybe especially glutenintolerant or sensitive to gluten here in this
country can somehow go to Italy and eat pastaand not have a reaction.
How much of that do you think?
And and, again, like, maybe we don't even knowthe answer, but how much of that do you think
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is actually the gluten or is this what they'respraying on the crops here in this country?
Right?
Even if you get organic, there's there's waterrunoff that can get into the soil and and, you
know, everything's basically laced nowadays.
Not a % sure, and I have not looked into theresearch on this.
However, I will say that when we haveallergenic reactions, we're reacting to the
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proteins.
Right?
So we're reacting to the proteins of thespecific crop that we're eating.
That's why people are allergic to fruits andvegetables.
When we react to it, we're responding to theproteins.
So I don't know that that specific species hasa different gluten creation, maybe.
I look at, like, a bodybuilding perspectivewhere if you repeatedly eat the same thing that
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is inflammatory, you will become sensitive toit.
A lot of people talk about this in bodybuildingwith, like, oats, for example, or something
like that.
And for us to say that it's the grain versusthe spray, I'm not sure.
Right.
Yeah.
There's been a recent study that said thatpeople who eat more fruits and vegetables in
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our country live longer.
And what's sprayed with glyphosate?
They had the highest amount of fruits andvegetables and of glyphosate in their system,
and they lived the longest.
So is that saying that glyphosate is safe?
And fruits and vegetables, no matter what, willmake you feel better?
Like, taking that knowledge and then applyingit to is it the spraying when we go abroad?
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I don't think we know the answer yet.
I would only assume that it has to do more withspecific species that we're consuming in in The
US, and I think that it has more to do withthat versus something abroad.
I don't wanna go off this topic because youmentioned something that I'd we didn't have in
our questions that I definitely wanna tap intois the bodybuilding.
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How did you get into that?
Like, how did you what was the antithesis?
Was that something like that it was alwaysprogrammed, and you're like, oh, I wanna get
into that?
Yeah.
I'm an optimizer.
I nerded out in college, so I
talked to
you about this call here.
I love optimizing, so I was looking at, like,what is the healthiest diet and what is the
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most effective effective exercise forlongevity?
And I think that during college, I was reallyfocusing on looks.
Right?
And at then and while I was going throughcollege, I realized, you know, fits has nothing
to do with how you look and everything.
And the I think because of bodybuilding, once Ikinda left that chapter almost, I was like,
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fitness is nothing about bodybuilding.
Fitness is about how long you live and how manytimes you can reproduce.
That in a biological standpoint is exactly whatfitness is.
How many offspring you can have and how longyou can live in order to come continue to have
those offspring and nurture a family.
So at that point, I was like, that's whatfitness is.
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And that's when I started focusing a little bitmore on adding in in hormone integration and
optimizing hormones and wanting to make sure weadd that into our gut and hormone life.
And I think that overall, what I've learnedfrom everything that I've studied and even,
like, diet and lifestyle and all the patientsI've seen is that there is a huge mental
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component and that every single one of those,like, blue zone communities, it's the
community.
The peep in a community last the longest.
They have the least amount of stress.
They are passively active.
They have stress resilience because they justthey can be stressed, and then they don't feel
stressed throughout the day.
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Like, they have a we have a siesta in themiddle of the day.
You know?
Like, we Three.
They're relaxed.
For sure.
And in The US, we live under constant pressure.
We have
so much to do.
So are you up at 4AM to get to your yourfamily?
That is
the opposite of what longevity is.
Right?
Yeah.
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That perspective is awesome becausebodybuilders and people who are performing like
these athletes like you did bikini shows.
Right?
Like, you get down to that, especially as a asa female, you get down to that, like, 10% body
fat.
Mhmm.
That is extremely low for a woman.
Hormones are gonna be dysregulated, right,because your body has to prioritize other
things, right, like keeping you alive and andyour your metabolism and stuff.
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So you're not gonna be primed for gettingpregnant and having children in that physical
state.
So, like, you said, is that fitness?
You might look amazing.
Right?
You might look like the specimen of a human,but, you know, what's the longevity, and how
many children can you produce that that exact,example you just made?
That that's a great way to look at it.
I've never actually thought of it like that.
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So thank you.
That's fantastic.
Yeah.
That's so cool to think of, like, fitness.
That is fitness.
Like, you said those words.
Like, that is that is true fitness.
I'd love that.
I mean, more people are moving into thatmobility style training.
I think, like, we can body build from, like, 20to 35.
And then once you hit 35, like, you reallygotta hit the mobility aspects, like, the Tai
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Chi kinda thing.
Like
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gotta start stress like, lowering stress,getting the gentle movements going, getting
ready for that kind of exercise.
My favorite trend right now that I've seen onsocial media is, like, the dad, like, filming
himself working out.
He's like, I don't work out to be thehealthiest guy or to be the fittest.
He's like, I work out so I can dominate my kidsfor in any in a athletic endeavor for as long
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as possible.
And I saw that.
I was like, that's awesome, man.
It's like being able whatever it is.
Right?
Whether it's, like, hiking up a mountain or,like, going for a run or swim.
You know?
Like, you gotta be well rounded and, like, youcan be in the best physical looking shape,
like, six pack, all that.
But if you can't bend over to pick up your kidwithout herniating a disc, how healthy are you?
Right?
Like alright.
So we we got a question here.
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This is a little bit shifted from from, like,the gut health stuff, but, you know, you're an
entrepreneur.
Right?
Being an entrepreneur is very demanding.
Right?
We're both entrepreneurs as well.
How do you balance that entrepreneurial lifeand those endeavors with the personal life with
the health and your own health?
Do you have aspiring entrepreneurs looking tomaintain a healthy work life balance that come
to you and maybe you coach them through thatkind of stuff as well?
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So I've been through, like, all phases ofentrepreneurship, and I think that every
entrepreneur has phases of isolation, and everyentrepreneur has, like, an epiphany and a a
realization of what balance truly looks like intheir life.
And the key to that is always community, in myopinion.
And I don't know if you guys have experiencedtoo because It's
(27:43):
up.
When you're in the isolation, it might be agood point for you.
Right?
Like, maybe you're grinding, you're buildingthe business, etcetera, but you can't you can
build the business, but you can't grow thebusiness until you start talking to people,
laughing more, having that community, relaxingbecause you'll burn out.
Yep.
We'll burn out if you don't step out of thatzone.
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And so I think that's, like, my biggesttakeaway of it is being an entrepreneur.
And, like, now I just recently, like, three orfour weeks ago moved in with some of my best
friends.
One of them is an entrepreneur.
One of them is actually does, like, m and a foran a big company here.
So he knows a lot about, like, financialbusinesses and buying businesses and what makes
a good business, scaling a business.
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Cool.
And living with other entrepreneurs is a gamechanger.
Mhmm.
Mhmm.
Because now even every single week, we have wehave a team meeting on Sundays.
And on Sundays, we talk about all our houserules, about everything else, but we also talk
about our businesses.
And we get feedback from each other, and we getnew ideas from each other, and we're constantly
supporting each other to grow.
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And I think that that kind of environmentspecifically for entrepreneurs is so so
valuable and why I think the future ofentrepreneurship is gonna be more of these,
like, masterminds versus everyone working ontheir own thing and and getting angry at each
other or, like, competing against each other.
It's gonna be more like, hey.
We're all doing the same thing.
Like, let's talk to each other and growtogether because I don't wanna waste my time
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learning about what email copy has the bestopen rate if you've already spent three months
on that and have data.
Right.
You know?
Why learn something that somebody else can, youknow, kinda give you insight on?
And it doesn't have to be that lonely life,right, that, like, that is so portrayed.
It's like the entrepreneur grind is this lonelyhead down.
Because, like, I've almost burned out twice inmy business.
Like, in a I know what it feels like whenyou're just, like, not feeling that purpose,
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not feeling that that love for what you'redoing, not really wanting to go to work in the
morning.
It's not great, man.
And, like, you're like, damn, my name's on thedoor.
I kinda have to go now.
So it's like you know?
But, yeah, having the community is is huge.
That's awesome.
Another big thing that you had mentioned inthere, and it's just like it's part of the
reason why Alfie and I love doing this.
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Laughing.
Like, laughing is such a key component tolongevity of just, like, genuinely enjoying
the, like, laugh being intentional aboutlaughing and having a good time.
Yeah.
That, like, brings so much joy.
Ed Mylett was talking about this.
I got coached by him last year, and he was justlike, you're always chasing a feeling.
Right?
And laughter brings out a feeling that's, like,unparalleled to anything else.
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It's just like when you can laugh with peopleand just genuinely have that good time, like,
when you say that is fitness, like, that ishappiness, laughing.
It also will increase your full tone.
So it also will increase your vagal tone, andyour gut health will thank you.
Boom.
Look at that, everybody.
Laughing for it.
That's it, babe.
I love that.
Watching Adam Sandler movie.
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Yeah.
So that that is also another big thing, that Iwanna tap into even a little bit more because
you said community.
Right?
Community is everything for you, but thenyou're also building community for other people
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and how important that is for, like,collaboration and to grow together and get
healthier together.
How has that been for you?
How how has Ben building what the core performcommunity that's utilizing your product because
that is a community of itself.
And then, obviously, your coaching side ofbuilding that community and elevating each
other and really getting people to respond.
Right?
Like, that cultivating piece.
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How has that been for you, and what's that beenlike?
Oh, there's so many things I can talk aboutthat we do.
I think the support is the biggest thing andjust knowing that you're not alone, especially
when you're sick is, like, showing up andfeeling like the first question people ask me,
how long will this how long until I feelbetter?
And the truth is I can't I can't tell you howlong until you feel better, honestly, because a
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lot of people like, there's a fifty fifty shoton anything, even prescription medication for a
lot of those prescription medications.
Like, sometimes doctors just throw something atyou to see if it works.
And then if it doesn't, they'll change it upand use something else.
There's
there's a lot of things that every person'sthey will just respond differently to.
And so while you're teetering with that, it'sso important to have other people who have who
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can keep you motivated and who can say like,oh, yeah.
That that really helped me.
Or I really love this recipe because when I hadwas really had a stomachache, like, this really
helped me.
And making that community to have that support,making you feel less alone is truly what
building the community is all about, and havingfun.
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Like, having fun in the process.
So with our athletes for core perform, and ifanyone's listening to this and wants to be one
of our affiliates and athletes, we're alwayswelcoming new ones, but we have a WhatsApp
group.
And, like, I'll always, like, tell them, like,hey.
I'm debating between new flavors, like this oneor this one, and they get to vote on it.
Or they'll Cool.
Make new reels.
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And then we have, like, this competition everymonth, and we send them a PDF of, like, fun
challenges.
And they win free protein, and they win free,like, other things that we partner with other
companies for.
So just make it fun and make it supportive andgive as much as you can.
And I think that that builds community andcamaraderie.
We have a a similar mission too is trying togrow a community of people that are very like
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minded.
We're gonna be rolling out a a program in maybeby the time this episode airs, we'll be ready,
but, we're gonna call it the optimizersprogram.
And it's basically for people who are lookingto maybe, you know, maybe they're dialed in in
a lot of areas of their life, but notoptimized, and we're trying to take it to the
next level.
It's gonna be for high level people, maybemostly entrepreneurs or, people who have
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achieved success in many other areas, but maybetheir health has been on the side.
But it's gonna be a community.
So you're gonna have access to everyone else.
You're gonna be able to say, hey.
What are you struggling with?
And there's gonna be a lot of sharing, and it'sjust gonna be open open cohort forum where, you
know, you're you got accountability, and youalso have, like, you can be vulnerable and say,
hey.
I'm not feeling it today.
Like, who else is you know?
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You're not on your own doing it.
Right?
Like, I think a lot of the the struggles I'vehad at least with with, you know, doing any
kind of, like, nutrition coaching with patientshas been.
And even with chiropractic, it's like that buyin when they're on their own and me constantly
having to reaffirm reaffirm, hey.
You're you're doing well.
You're doing okay.
We're gonna get through this.
Right?
But when they got when you got someone doing itwith you, like, if I get, like, say, a a
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husband and wife come in for chiropractic careand they're doing it together and I put them on
a similar protocol where they're coming intwice a week together, the results are always
better.
It really is.
And I I should I should get a study done or dosome, like, internal work on, like, the
numbers.
But when you have, like, accountability buddy,man, it's it's night and day for sure.
Accountability will transform people's livesand make sure that there's different theories
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of behavior change.
I took an entire class on it in my master's
Yes.
That that but there's, like, externalmotivators, internal motivators.
And in order to get to the external or theinternal, like, habit routine building, you
have to sometimes have, like, an externalmotivator like a friend or an accountability
partner who will get you there.
You you typically work one on one, or do youbring them collectively in the community almost
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right away?
Or do you work with them one on one and thenbringing them into the community?
We have weekly calls in our community.
And then on top of that, if they want the extrasupport, and then on top of that, we have the
one on one check-in.
So they get the opportunity to feel part of acommunity.
Like, this on Monday, we did vision boardingfor 2024.
So we talked all about resolutions and whathappened last year, what we can look forward to
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next year, and how we can create, OKRs for thatoutcome.
Are you
an EOS, entrepreneur organizational system, torun your KPIs and OKRs and
I do it myself.
You do it yourself.
I love it.
As a fellow entrepreneur, I am a lawyer.
I'm the lawyer.
I'm the operations manager.
I'm the cook.
I am the everything in the business.
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Are you familiar with traction?
Are you familiar, like, with any o the OSmodel?
You ever you ever read those?
Oh, really?
They're they're pretty good books.
So there's a book called Traction
I'll have it.
And that's scaling up by, Verne Harnish.
He's he's really good.
He's based out of Colorado.
But all these practical things, but that you'retalking about.
But, like, I do them personally.
So we actually, I met with, some guys thismorning, including Alfie, and we kinda have a
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scorecard of life that we build out things.
And those are kind of our OKRs and our KPIs forthe week of how we're focusing on faith,
family, relationship, finance, and business,and fitness, and health.
So we wanna make sure we're queuing those upand measuring those on a weekly basis.
But then in business, obviously, I wanna knowhow my you know, the sales department's doing,
the marketing department, the operations, andthen the finance.
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So that's, that was just from anentrepreneurship question, I wanted to tap into
real quick.
But you've had a, you've had a lot of accoladesand recognitions throughout your career.
So and it's short.
You're young.
Aren't you you're how how old are you, Rena?
Twenty nine.
You're 29.
You're so young.
It's still
And you've just had, remarkable, obviously,acceleration in your field.
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I love the research piece.
What achievements stand out for you, like, justright now and then that it from the past?
And then what what do you got on the horizon?
What what are you thinking of?
What next year and then maybe in the nextcouple years?
But what's one thing that really stands out toyou?
And then what do you what do you got some, whatwhat are some things that are coming up that
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you're really excited about?
So I've never felt proud in my life.
I think that this may be actually a commonthing with females and especially who have this
type a personality.
Like, I've never really felt out of my lifeexcept for one moment.
And that one moment was when I graduated Tufts,because so many people bash colleges and
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schools at nowadays.
They're like, no one needs that.
Honestly, that school changed my life.
They gave me opportunity and I'm foreverindebted for that opportunity and for those
connections and for the research and for theknowledge that they gave me.
And so graduating from that and feeling a partof that community, feeling a part of, like, a
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higher level of standards, feeling a part of,yeah, we have the White House on on the other
line, and we are all in a room with Kellogg andCampbell.
Like, giving me that opportunity to take me tothat higher level and graduating from that
school, that's the proudest moment I think I'vefelt.
And then second to that would be when Iactually won the pitch competition a year or
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two later, was I cried as I was when I didthat.
That's awesome.
That's so cool to hear about that.
What do you what do you have in the works forCorePerform and for your and for your coaching
program?
Like, what what are things that you're lookingin future tense?
Maybe some goals, that you have.
And it could be clients, or what what what aresome things that you're thinking of in the
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future?
We have some fun ideas.
I and and I and this is purely, like, socialmedia and reach, and we can get into the nitty
gritty of things.
But I think I we're we're looking to expand oursocial networks in the next the next year.
So we're looking at into more Facebookutilization, which I know a lot of people are
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actually staying away from, but also YouTube.
And so we're just trying to test out thewaters, and I think entrepreneurship is
constantly a, like, a risk.
You kinda have to take risks in in differentareas and grow different channels.
So I think we've mastered Instagram at thispoint, and now it's a matter of okay.
We've had systems and operations set forInstagram.
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Let's now open up and now add a YouTubecomponent.
Now add whatever else component, a TikTokcomponent, whatever else.
And so we can increase our lead gen.
So that's what we're working on from a businessperspective, part of the next year, I think.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
Socials is such a massive strategy.
Yeah.
But then also, like, that piece and I wannafocus on this a little bit because, like, that
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product element that, like, that touches mebecause I feel like I have a really hard time
with that of enjoying the process so much that,like, I get these daily pride moments every
day.
I'm, like, trying to go back to that of, like,I like, man, I'm I was actually proud of
yesterday.
Like, I like, not one of those things where I'mconstantly driving forward.
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But literally, I'm going through this, like,scenario even even the, like, this week, right,
of, like, I'm so forward, forward bound that,like, these proud moments should be happening,
like, more often, I feel like.
Because we talk about that longevity componentof just being able to laugh and Yeah.
And enjoy that process of the journey.
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I don't wanna get to the point where, I'm I Ilike bringing this Tom Brady analogy, but,
like, when the next ring's always the best one,I wanna be able to process things, like, kind
of, like, as they happen and as things slowdown.
What's your, just what's your take on that?
You made me think of, like, gratitude gratitudejournaling.
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And Yeah.
I can tell my I am telling every single day.
I'm so freaking blessed of what I do.
I get to help so many people, and it made methink, what is the difference between gratitude
and pride?
And so I think gratitude and pride, they'reslightly different in that gratitude you are
thankful and grateful for the place that you'vebeen.
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Pride is taking accountability that youyourself have gotten you to this point.
Right?
It's more about you there's, like, a youcomponent versus anything else.
That's great.
Great perspective on that.
Hey.
So we we've loved having you on here.
This conversation was awesome.
This is the the best one we've had, man.
I wanna ask you one last question.
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We usually ask this of everyone that comes onthe show.
So we at Full Fueled here talk about, like, howare we living our life fully fueled?
We have these six pillars that we focus on,fuel, movement, sleep, mind, so, like, mindset,
work and purpose, and then spirit.
Tell me a little bit about, like, what doesthat mean to you to be full fueled, and and how
does that, how do you see yourself living yourlife full fueled?
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I love that because we have the same verysimilar ones at CorePerform.
We have CorePerform five pillars, sleep,personal stress, environmental stress,
exercise, and diet.
And once you've mastered the stressors of thosefive things, you're living life free.
And so if I were to say what does living lifefully fueled mean, it means you're living life
free, full of love, and full of giving love.
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That was a knockout answer.
I love that.
Can you tell, the listeners a little bit about,you know, where they can learn more about you
online, website, Instagram, all of it?
Just kinda plug yourself here.
Absolutely.
So my Instagram is Dasha Fitness, d a s h afitness.
And then our website is coreperform.com.
And if you're interested in trying the protein,you can head right to our website.
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You can get 15% off on your first order.
And we're on Amazon as well.
And you can always shoot me an email.
All my links and everything is gonna be linkedbelow.
I'm sure.
Everyone listening needs to follow Dasha Yeah.
At Dasha Fitness because
I'm a good man.
And it is like pure value.
Yeah.
Like, she she puts a lot of effort into herInstagram feed to provide a tremendous amount
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of value.
So I couldn't encourage it more.
Please go follow her because she is absolutelyjust at, like, free value driven.
So if there's anyone you follow, please gofollow Dasha.
She's amazing.
Thank you so much.
And you're reminding me that we do have a freevalue opportunity.
If you guys wanna try out the core perform dietyourselves, we're gonna be running a challenge
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next month.
January 7 is when we'll start.
So definitely head to my page becauseregistration will open the January, and we'll
be giving out free, like, coaching training fora whole week altogether in a WhatsApp community
and giving you all the recipes you need, how totackle your health, and all the things.
So if you want free for the next year, you canjoin us then.
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Well, awesome.
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