October 18, 2023 • 66 mins
*Please note the views and opinions expressed in this episode are a discussion about personal beliefs and experiences of the host and guest.
Christianity and manifestation can indeed go in the same sentence–it’s about allowing the positive flow of energy to create abundance, which essentially what prayer is all about.
I believe that God is the Great Creator...of all. And with that, we can take the steps to live in a way that aligns with where we want to be in life, but ultimately it is up to God.
We can't create anything from nothing, it is all God-given. And yet, there is a way of being or living in this world that also allows for us to create the mindset and open heart to connect with the goodness that the love of God has to offer.
In this podcast episode, my guest, Rachel Bayford, and I discuss the compatibility of Christianity and manifesting. We explore the idea that manifesting is about being open to creative possibilities, making intentional requests, and connecting with inner guidance. The episode highlights our personal stories related to manifesting and emphasizes the importance of positivity and faith in this practice, suggesting that it can indeed align with Christian beliefs.
Here's what you'll learn in today's episode:
- What manifesting is
- Why it's OK to manifest even if you're Christian
- The steps to manifest
- What manic manifesting is and why it won't work for you.
A little about Rachel:
Having studied Wayne Dyer's work for many years Rachel believes that “everything is perception and when we change the way we look at things, those things we look at, change!” Rachel prides herself in reframing and turning negative emotions into positive feelings and thoughts.
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Cathy (00:00):
Can Christianity and manifesting go in the same
sentence?
I believe they can and we'regoing to talk all about that
today with my guest, rachelBayford./ Welcome to episode 88
(01:26):
of the show.
I am grateful that you're hereand taking a listen today.
This is a little bit longerepisode, so you might have to
break it up into a couple oflistening sessions, but it's a
great one to take along with youon the walk or when you're
making dinner or in a car ride.
So.
Have a listen.
Today, we are talking all aboutmanifestation now as a
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Christian.
In my mind, I've kind of hadquestions about this in my life.
I don't think I've probably evershied away from it or thought it
was dark arts or Wrongnecessarily.
But.
I just had questions about it.
And questions about whether ornot.
It works, what it means, whatit's about.
(02:11):
And you might have those samequestions too.
Whether it's something that weeven should be doing, I guess.
And I'll tell you what, as Ihave dived into reading the
Bible this year.
I'm reading the Bible in a year.
If I haven't told you that yet.
But, um, You know, the thingthat I can take away from this
(02:34):
podcast episode.
And from reading the Bible isthat it's.
A positive flow of energy.
And that's the kind of love thatGod wants us to have for each
other and especially for him.
And that's the kind of lovethat.
He wants us to know that he hasfor us, is this positive?
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Love and forgiveness.
And.
Manifesting is really all aboutbeing open to the positivity of
abundance that we can have inour lives.
Yes, there are going to be hardtimes and also we can still keep
that clear vision that clearhope that.
(03:16):
Positivity and abundance can bea part of our lives and can
exist.
So, let that be a little bit ofa nudge.
If this episode is one that youmight even be questioning
whether or not to listen to,because it is really beautiful.
And my guest, Rachel buffered.
Is brilliant.
And she's super fun to listen tobecause of course she has an
(03:38):
English accent.
So it is.
Just a lovely time to listen to,but like I said, you might need
to break it up into smallerbits.
Here's what you'll learn intoday's episode.
You'll learn what manifestingis, why it's okay to manifest,
even if you're Christian.
The steps to manifest and whatmanifest.
And what manic manifesting isand why it won't work for you.
(04:02):
The one last little bit of info.
I want to tell you aboutmanifesting before we jump in,
is that I've done some work withmanifesting and had some pretty
amazing results, quite honestly.
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In my thoughts on this over theyears, I have basically come to
the conclusion that As God beingthe creator of all and all
things good.
That's what manifesting involvesis positive energy.
(04:44):
A positive outlook and beliefand opening the channels for
that positivity to actually comeinto your life.
The Bible states, even that.
God will grant you the desiresof your heart.
If you believe and trust in him.
Now that might not always be inthis lifetime.
(05:08):
But.
When we opened the channels ofpositivity.
When we open our hearts.
And treat others how we want tobe treated.
Positive things happen.
And we can begin to call thosein with the actions that we
take, whether that'svisualization, whether that's
meditating, whether that'sprayer, whether that is
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physically moving our bodies totake action.
We have the ability to call inwhat we want in this life.
It doesn't always mean that whatwe ask for, we are going to
receive.
But what if there is somethingeven better waiting for us?
Something to think about...
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And before we go any further, Ialso want to invite you to be a
part of my weekly breathe toflow class.
This is a class that takes placeevery week.
On Wednesdays it's currently at1:00 PM.
I'm not opposed to moving it toa different time.
1:00 PM central time.
But it is basically$9 a classand I will link to it in the
(06:13):
show notes.
It's a 30 minute guided breathwork class, and you're saying,
why would I need that?
I breathe every day on my own,without somebody telling me how
to breathe.
Let me tell you friends.
It is super beneficial to takethat little bit of a pause.
And honestly, I would encourageyou to do some form of
intentional breath work everysingle day.
(06:34):
But this is just offering theopportunity for you to have the
space held for you for someoneelse to take you through a
guided breath work, practicethat.
Can alter how you feel.
That's a midweek reset, kind of,it can connect you with
yourself.
It can connect you with spirit.
It can connect you with theintention that maybe You need to
(06:57):
let go, or you want to moveforward or whatever your
intention may be.
It just gives you a.
Place.
And a held pause in your week.
To reset.
And to recharge so that you'reready for the rest of the week.
And it's all virtual, so anybodycan take part in it.
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And that's the great thing.
You don't have to come to thestudio.
You don't even have to leaveyour desk at work.
You could just take a 30 minutebreak.
Tune in and listen, your cameradoesn't even have to be on when
you're on the zoom.
It's a zoom call.
So you camera doesn't have to beon.
You could go to your car andtake a little bit of a break.
If you're working.
And sit in your car and do thebreath work.
(07:37):
But I will tell you.
That.
Nine times out of 10 whensomebody else leads me through a
Breath work practice.
It is so much more beneficial tome.
Then when I lead myself throughit.
Even though I have the tools andI have the skills and I have the
ability to do it on my own, hereis just a different energy and
(07:59):
just a different experience whenyou are.
In community and held in thatspace where someone else.
Gets to guide you throughsomething.
That can help you and hold yourhand in a sense.
In letting go.
In creating the vision that youwant to create.
There's accountability in that.
(08:20):
And there's also encouragementand the feeling of being lifted
up and supported by someoneelse.
So I want to invite you to be apart of that weekly class.
It happens.
Right here on your device,whatever you're listening to,
you can tune in or you can tunein on your computer.
And I would love to have you, soI'll drop a link in the show
(08:41):
notes.
On with the show.
Welcome to the show, Rachel.
We are talking manifestingtoday, and I asked you to be on
the show because you have abeautiful show that that kind of
led me to believe that, youknow, a little bit of something
about manifesting.
(09:02):
And so I just wanted to get yourtake on it.
We've also had someconversations about just
believing in a lot of differentthings and being open to
receiving different ideas anddifferent thoughts out there.
So my initial thought in havingyou on was that I wanted to talk
out this idea of Christianityand manifesting.
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I've told you that I amChristian and yet I still also
believe in manifesting.
And for some people that canseem outrageously wrong.
I also believe that when we aresomeone who believes in this
higher divine power or energeticforce that resides within us, we
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have to be curious with what itcan do and with how we can use
that energy.
And it's all a matter ofconnecting the energy around us
and connecting the energy that'savailable to us.
And that's kind of how I seemanifesting and also I believe
that that's, as a Christian, theHoly Spirit, the energy of that
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Holy Spirit living or residingwithin us, and then we get to
choose and we get to use how weuse that positive light, how we
use that positive energy to callforth abundance and positivity
that we might desire in thisworld.
Well, that doesn't mean thatwe're not going to have trouble
and things are always going tobe easy breezy, but we do have
(10:36):
the ability to transcend intothis higher state of perception
and experiencing life.
Does that make sense?
Rachel (10:45):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And I just want to say thank youfor having me over on your show.
It's a pleasure to be here.
I am absolutely so excited totalk about this topic.
It's one of my favorite thingsand I absolutely love the whole
idea of manifesting.
And I love your thoughts on it.
So that's awesome.
And I love your spin and how youkind of, just brought that
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Christianity into it.
And it's interesting conceptbecause one of my beliefs is it
doesn't really matter whatreligion we are.
Essentially, it's the samething.
And you picked up on two wordsthat I absolutely resonate with.
And when you were saying that, Iwas like, yes.
So one of the words is curious.
(11:30):
And I think in terms ofmanifesting, it's essentially
like being curious.
And that curiosity is where itbegins, I think.
And then you also mentioned likethe Holy Spirit within us.
So, yeah.
Everything is energy.
We are just energetic beings.
(11:51):
And, yeah, it's my belief thatwe have spirit within us.
I think, yeah, the curiosity,going back to that, one of the
main phrases that I wouldassociate with manifesting is
being open to creativepossibilities.
Cathy (12:08):
how do you define manifestation?
Rachel (12:10):
How do I define manifestation?
Asking the universe, makingwishes it's just knowing that we
can create our reality andtrusting that.
I think, yeah, that's hard tosay how I would define it, but
yeah, I'll go
Cathy (12:32):
with that.
That sounds pretty good.
Sounds pretty good.
Being open to receiving it andbeing curious about it
Rachel (12:39):
I read that somewhere a while back.
I don't know who coined thephrase.
I think that is really kind ofwhat manifesting is, right?
It's just being open and beingcurious about creative
possibilities.
But I mean, manifesting hasbecome such a popular term
nowadays.
And it's funny because we seelike manifesting 101, manifest
(13:02):
this.
I don't know about you, but Iremember as a kid.
It wasn't called that, but itwas still a thing.
So for example I remember in myteens, I would call it cosmic
ordering.
And essentially I, yeah, and Iremember one of my first jobs, I
just knew I had this sense ofbeing like, I just had this
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feeling inside me that it'sabsolutely going to happen.
It's absolutely like nonnegotiable.
And I remember saying to my momand she was like, how are you so
certain?
You know, your CV, your resumeisn't.
Up to scratch, and I was like,nope, it's gonna happen.
And she was like, but how do youknow?
Because I asked the clouds.
And she was like, what?
And this was before I knewanything about manifesting.
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I didn't know what it wascalled.
But I just knew that I was beingguided.
And it just felt right.
And that's happened with amillion things.
Like I could give you so manyexamples from all of my life.
Yeah.
So is that
Cathy (14:03):
you, it's tuning into this inner guidance, right?
Yeah.
Honestly, I like to think of theinner guidance as the voice of
God within you.
And it's like the, and when youcan get quiet enough to just
hear that and to just know, butwe have to stop all the
busyness, like we have to slowdown and stop all the chaos that
we tend to create or invite intoour lives.
(14:24):
We have to be quiet and then wecan hear that voice.
And it's really interesting.
So if you, it wasn't calledmanifestation and you called it,
what did you say?
Cosmic ordering?
Rachel (14:34):
Cosmic ordering.
But even before I knew thatphrase, it was just asking the
clouds, speaking to the sky andmaking wishes.
Cathy (14:45):
Some people call that prayer, right?
Like absolutely.
Rachel (14:48):
And I guess.
Yeah, it was, I guess it isprayer.
And I remember as a small child,the first thing I learned at
school in the way of God wasLord, the Lord's prayer.
And very often as a child, if Ifelt scared or a little bit
uncertain.
I straight away was like, I'lldo the Lord's prayer.
(15:10):
And so I guess that, and thatkind of that energy was always
around me because my mom used togo to church, my grandma my
great grandmother, she believedin God and would go to church
and very Christian family.
Yeah.
It was kind of.
But also a little bit witchy.
Yes,
Cathy (15:29):
yes.
And I think that's what of whenthey think of manifesting.
Like, ooh, you're summoning youknow, evil spirits or something.
Yeah.
Which, it is all how you theintention you place behind it.
Like,
Rachel (15:47):
it's intentional.
And again, even referring to awitch my mum used to say, oh
yeah, I'm a witch but a whitewitch.
And it would make it acceptable.
What is that supposed to meaneven?
Yeah, what does that even mean?
But I go to church so it's okaybecause it kind of like
counterbalances this out.
She's a clean witch, it's okay.
Clean, I'm white.
(16:10):
But yeah I guess I used to seeit happening as well as a child
because I remember my greatgranny passed away and I
remember that my mom would stilltalk to her, and so her spirit
was still around us.
And then we would ask her forstuff, even as simple as just a
parking space.
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And I remember my mom would go,Oh, there's no parking anywhere.
And she'd be driving around theparking lot, and then she'd be
like, Come on, granny, where'sthe space?
And then right before our eyes,somebody would back out of the
space, and vroom, we would goin.
And it was like, oh.
This stuff works.
Beautiful.
Next time I need something,let's ask granny.
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Granny was spirit.
It was just source.
It was just something.
And then that was become abelief.
And even to this day, like Iwill still tap into that and be
like, oh, granny, help me out.
You know?
Yeah.
And isn't that amazing then?
I don't know whether it's justgranny or whether it's
collective or who
Cathy (17:09):
it is.
But when you slow down and pauseand then ask and invite.
The energy in or invite the theopenness for receiving whatever
you're asking for.
It's that openness and that askand ask and ask and ask and ask,
or manifest manifest and liketry and try and try, but.
(17:30):
Often, I think that there's somesort of little blockage that
might still be there.
And lots of times it's a littlelimiting belief that we just
have a little bit of doubt thatfor whatever reason, it's not
truly possible what you'reinterested in.
And it's
Rachel (17:45):
really interesting that you say that, and I can resonate
with that story because justtalk about myself a little bit
here.
So I've manifested everythingfrom such a young age, including
houses.
jobs, moving cities, like movingto London was a really big deal.
Like London is bloody expensive,right?
(18:06):
And it always seems so far off,but I was like, nope, where
there's a will, there's a way.
I've seen it in my life path.
It's going to happen.
I'm going to manifest and overtime I did.
I've manifested cars, I'vemanifested money, I've
manifested friends, I'vemanifested to do training, do my
NLP practitioner.
You name it, I manifested it,except...
(18:27):
Men.
And I can't manifest a bloodyboyfriend.
I am so not successful atfinding a man and finding love.
Cathy (18:38):
So what is the link there?
Rachel (18:40):
You just nailed it.
Limiting beliefs.
Because For the longest time andI've done some work around this
and it's getting better, and Ican see it coming now, but for
the longest time, I never feltworthy.
I never saw myself as a wife.
I never saw myself as like afamily person.
I never I couldn't see it.
(19:01):
And of course, the universeisn't gonna just deliver it if I
can't see it happening.
Like, how can I possibly bloomand manifest when it's just non
existent to me right now?
Cathy (19:11):
Yes! Like I was just saying, with my vision of it's
fuzzy.
Well, yeah.
What's getting in the way then?
Rachel (19:20):
So this is it.
let's talk about.
Suggestions on how we manifest,and one of the first thing I say
is be clear, and this is athing, like, it's all about
intention, and you have to beclear, and you have to be open,
and this is the problem with mefinding a man.
Is realistically, if I'm honestlet's get truthful.
I've been on billions of datingapps, Tinder, Bumble you name
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it.
I've stalked people on Facebook.
I've stalked people onInstagram, but really...
But let's get clear.
You're not really a stalker.
It's okay.
Yeah, I'm not a real stalker,just a, you know, a stalker
stalker.
But when we actually really getdown to it, I'm not giving a
clear message to the universe.
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Because it's fuzzy, like youjust said, and my intention is
all over the place because Idon't really know what I want.
If someone said to me, have yougot a type?
I'm like, no, I haven't got atype.
I don't know who I want.
One minute I want a British guy,then I want an American guy,
then I'm like, oh no, actuallymaybe someone from Egypt.
It'd be quite nice.
(20:24):
You know, you were saying this.
to me the other day.
Go ahead.
My friend said to me the otherday, right, it's the new moon,
let's set our intentions.
What do you want?
Tall, dark and handsome.
I'm like, no, I don't mind ifthey're short.
I don't know what I want.
So how the hell can the universedeliver this to me?
I can't call it in because Ireally have no clue.
Cathy (20:47):
Yeah.
You know, that's funny that yousay all of this, because I
remember being in this space, inthe same space that you are.
I don't know what, before Imarried my husband and like just
dating guys.
And I mean, back then therewasn't dating apps, but it was
this point where I finally justsat down and I made a list.
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What are the things that I findimportant?
What do I want in my partner?
And.
Made this list and some of thethings are not there with my
husband But for the most partlike he fits the bill like he
not good And that was a I don'tknow my friend said hey, I've
(21:31):
got the guy you're gonna marrySo whenever you're ready to meet
him, you just let me know.
So Oh, wow Anyway, it worked outbut I've written so many.
I had to get clear on These arethe things Yeah.
But you need to actually getclear maybe and say, no, this is
what I really want.
I absolutely do.
And I don't want this because ofthis.
Rachel (21:51):
Yeah.
I absolutely.
Well, this is the thing.
Cause there's there's part of mewhere I've almost called in the
wrong energy, but I focused onwhat I don't want.
So then I'm essentially tellingthe universe that's where the
energy is.
I need to raise my vibrationaround that.
And like you say, get clear,but, and also be open again,
going back to what we said aboutbeing open to creative
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possibilities.
And I think that I'm very closedbecause, potentially, even if
Mr.
Wright knocked on my door, Iwould be like, Oh, sorry, I'm
busy, I've got to go to the gym,then I'm doing a podcast, and
then I'm doing this, and like,everything, you name it, I can
give you an excuse.
I have got every excuse in thebook.
So what
Cathy (22:32):
are you afraid
Rachel (22:32):
of?
Ah, yeah.
Where's the fear lie, hey?
Yeah.
And this is it.
It comes down to me.
I'm like, believing in myself,self esteem.
Am I even worthy of love?
You know, I wouldn't recognizelove if it whacked me in the
face or knocked on my front doortoday.
So,
Cathy (22:49):
yeah.
So, when we're talkingmanifesting, you first have to
be clear.
You do.
Yeah.
And you have to also be open toexploring what it is you really
want in order to get clear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rachel (23:04):
Yeah, definitely.
It is funny because again, likeI said, I'm going back to
manifesting jobs.
I was so clear I was adamant itfrom the age of seven.
I knew that's what I wanted todo Don't ask me how or why but I
just knew I was like that's inmy life path.
That's what I'm gonna do Myschool teachers thought I was
(23:25):
crazy They're like don't youwant to train to be a nurse or a
vet or you know, I didn't knowpilot and I'm like, nope I know
what I want and so it was veryclear and that's why when it
came into my life, it was nosurprise.
It was like, yeah, well, I askedfor that.
Cathy (23:40):
Yeah.
So it's almost like, do you feellike some of these things we
know at a young age I think wehave better access to the, to
that inner guidance andintuition at a young age before
we have been cheated and beforewe've been clouded by like life
and people.
Not believing in our dreams andour hopes and our wants and
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desires so that we shut themdown and then we don't take the
opportunity to actually getquiet enough and listen and to
give ourselves permission to beokay with saying yes to what we
really want.
Yeah, for sure.
Because we put these limits andwe put them in a box and say,
(24:23):
nope, that's not okay.
That's not what I really want.
Rachel (24:27):
Yeah, absolutely.
The limiting beliefs.
But yeah, as a kid, definitely,we're more open aren't we?
Because in the creativepossibilities, because we're
magical and everything's anadventure.
And like you say, before we getjaded and before someone says,
well, no, you can't do that.
Like, you know, there's ahundred rules and, oh, okay.
(24:47):
Well, before the relationshipthat hurts you so therefore you
are then fearful of like, oh mygod.
Yeah, let's move away from thatidea.
Let's avoid pain Becausenaturally we want to you know
It's easier to kind of almostavoid pain than it is to move
toward pleasure
Cathy (25:07):
Yeah, oh for sure.
Rachel (25:09):
So even though we know oh, that would be such a nice
experience over there Butactually, no, I'm gonna sit here
and just avoid that happeningagain and then Almost while
we're focusing on that, we'rethen telling the universe,
telling source, telling ourinner beings going, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, like that'sscary.
And then that's where the energygoes.
Cathy (25:31):
So yeah, it's interesting.
How do you unblock that?
It is.
Yeah.
Rachel (25:36):
I mean, how do you unblock that?
That's another topic.
I
Cathy (25:40):
know, I know it is.
Okay.
Back to this manifesting the jobthing though.
Yeah.
I can relate.
When I was in high school, I,Went to, went on a college
visit, I feel like, or I don'tknow if I went on a college
visit or just went to visit mysister where she was going to
college and we went into the reccenter and I was like, I'm going
to work here like this is whereI'm going to work when I come to
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college.
But then I was adamant thatlike, I was not going to that
school.
I went through this phase whereit was like, no, I'm going to
look at all these other schools.
I'm not going to go to thatschool.
But in the end.
That one just felt like I knewthat that was where I needed to
go to school.
That was like my home that feltlike home when I went to visit
the, when I went to visit mysister there, when I don't know
(26:23):
how it went exactly, but sureenough, like I knew I was going
to work at the rec center.
My freshman year of college,then where did I get a job?
And it was a piece of cake.
Like my sister's sorority sisterhad a job there and she was
like, yeah, we're hiring rightnow.
Come to this, whatever you'regoing to, you'll be hired.
Love it.
I was hired and it was myfavorite job to this day.
(26:45):
I'm not even kidding you.
That's the favorite job I'veever had in my entire life.
So many great memories.
I worked there all five years.
I went to school, it was, it waslike, it was one of those
moments where I knew.
This is where I'm...
Supposed to be, and I think youhave those also, I had this
conversation last week withsomeone with houses.
(27:06):
I think often when you go into ahouse or an environment, you
just know this is where I'msupposed to be.
I mean, you work in real estate,so you know, people get that
feeling.
Absolutely.
And
Rachel (27:17):
if you don't feel it, it's not happening.
Right.
Cathy (27:20):
Right.
Rachel (27:21):
Yeah.
Interesting that you just saidabout where you worked and the
place, and then you knew that.
And you just said it felt likehome.
Yeah, so Yeah, that's I wasgonna touch on that like when it
comes to manifesting the topmost important thing is feel it
People talk about vision boardsall the time, but more
(27:43):
importantly, I think we need toattach the emotion So it's all
like we talked about being clearand being open, but then the
next step is Feel it Like, youjust hit the nail on the head
there with the feel like home.
You just knew it was going tohappen you knew we were going to
work there, because as soon asyou went there, you're like,
yeah, it feels right.
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Like you just said, with walkingto a house, you're viewing and
you're like, yeah, it feelsright, it feels like home.
And then, yeah, then you canvisualize and go, oh yeah, I can
see my couch over there, I cansee myself living here, I can
see myself sunbathing in thatgarden.
Great.
The feeling, like, the emotionhas to be there.
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And then I think when you'regoing to manifest anything, it
is so important to attach theemotion to it.
And then that ties in with theNLP, like the Neuro Linguistic
Programming, because it's aboutall of our senses, our five
senses and our map of the world.
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Throw that into manifestation,it adds to it, like it adds a
flavor to it.
Like it's all really good.
Like you've got them to manifestthings like the recipe.
And you're asking and you say,right, here are the ingredients,
but then you chuck in theemotion.
You're like, that's when we getthe actual delicious food.
Cathy (29:11):
That's when the cohesion happens.
Yes.
Everything comes together.
It comes together.
Yeah.
I love it.
Rachel (29:18):
Yeah.
Okay.
Because it's that feeling as thefeeling as like of certainty.
You can feel that in your gut,can't you?
Like, when something feelsright, you just know.
And then again, when somethingfeels off, equally, you're like,
Nope, this is not for me,thanks, bye.
Get out of here.
Cathy (29:38):
How do you get to that point where you can feel that
though?
I'm sure people have been to theplace where they feel like they
know something is supposed tohappen and then it doesn't, it's
not really great results or it'snot, you know, it doesn't, life
doesn't unfold how they thoughtit would.
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So then they start to doubttheir intuition or that inner
guidance because.
Oh, well, I trusted this,though.
That felt good in the moment.
It's not just a surface levelfeeling.
Rachel (30:11):
Uh, yeah, no, it's really deep.
But again, it's that when youjust said that, that trusting
it, that's the biggest thing aswell is having trust, having
unwavering faith.
Absolutely.
Even the unanswered prayers,even the unanswered
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manifestations, intentions,whatever we call it, We have to
trust that actually, you knowwhat, the greater power, God,
source, whatever we want to callit, actually has a plan much
grander than our own.
So whilst we think, oh yeah,like I really, really want that.
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If that's not meant to be, wehave to trust that actually, you
know what, that's not meant tobe.
Cathy (30:58):
I'm so glad you brought that up because we have freedom.
Yeah, it's so hard that one.
Rachel (31:02):
Yeah.
Cathy (31:03):
We still have to take action and make the steps
towards moving towards what wewant.
Yeah.
It's not, and I said this at thebeginning, like we can't, we are
not God or source or whateverthat creates out of thin air.
Yeah.
We have to take the steps andput this, put the steps in
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motion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, we do, because it can't
Rachel (31:29):
just magically happen on its own, like we, we're having a
human experience, so we have togo through, like you said, a
certain amount of steps.
And, yes, it's all well and goodputting the thought out there,
putting the manifestation,asking the clouds, as we called
it earlier, but, like you say,yeah, absolutely, we have to
take action.
Take, for example my move toLondon.
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I knew in my head, in my mind,in my thoughts, I'd visualized
it, I had the feeling, I just, Icould see myself.
Spending the summer in the parktime and time again.
And I had this feeling I couldalmost feel the sun on my skin.
I could smell the air, likeeverything added up.
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But if I didn't physically getoff my ass and go and view the
house and make some calls, isn'tjust going to happen.
Like I had to pack my car fullof all my worldly belongings,
had to physically drive toLondon, view the house, you
know, pay the deposit, sort mystuff out, get the job, like.
(32:30):
Yeah.
Take action.
It was all well and gooddreaming about it, but true
manifesting is when you are,again, open to the creative
possibility, but also preparedto take action.
You can't just sit there andmagically just think, Oh yeah,
it will just land on my lap.
No, this
Cathy (32:50):
is human experience.
And yeah, and that's the balancein harmony in life, right?
Is in taking action and inreceiving.
And having them blend together.
Yeah.
But then, and
Rachel (33:06):
Then the best bit comes when you have to surrender.
And you have to just let go andgo.
Exactly.
I've done my bit.
I've took action.
Now I just have to chill out andwait.
Yeah.
Cathy (33:18):
And there's no set time.
There is no set time on whenthese things happen.
Big things obviously take alittle bit longer, right?
Rachel (33:29):
Absolutely.
They, yeah, they do.
I mean, that took a
Cathy (33:31):
couple of years.
You're simmering and you're,it's like the energy is just
making sure that everything isin the right place.
It's the most annoying thing.
Because so often, if we are allenergy and interconnected, all
the, the things have to alignfor the other people that are
involved as well.
Rachel (33:51):
Absolutely.
Yes.
And that's where I call itdivine timing.
Yeah, yeah, because like you sayit has to align and like you say
anyone else that's involved Idon't know the landlord of the
house or whatever it might be orthe person that's gonna give you
the job or like the personbefore you have to leave or some
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whatever it might be I've seenthat happen and I'm sitting
there impatiently.
'cause patience is not my strongpoint.
I have to admit, I'm like, whenthis gonna happen?
Oh, I've had to learn patience.
It's a long old journey, thatone.
But it's like you, yeah, youhave to be ready to be ready and
ready to receive, but equallylet go and surrender.
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So ask and then let go.
Mm-hmm.
I read, I read somewhere, wherewas it?
Uh, I'm just thinking.
I think it was like OprahWinfrey or somebody, and she's
Make the wish, ask, let go.
Yeah.
Cathy (34:53):
Let go of all expectation.
Yes, surrender.
Just put it out there and thenrelease attachment to it.
Yeah,
Rachel (35:00):
release attachment.
That's a great way of explainingit.
And just being like open againto, okay.
And just knowing if it's meantto be, it will be.
And I always say, if it's meantto be, it will be, and if it
isn't, if it doesn't happen,then it wasn't meant to be, but
I'm going to be open to whateverthe outcome is, and then that's
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when the stuff that's meant foryou aligns with you.
And that having that unwaveringfaith and leaning into, I trust
the universe, no matter what theoutcome is, because at the end
of the day, God's got a planmuch grander than my own.
Exactly.
He knows
Cathy (35:39):
more than I do.
Rachel (35:40):
Yes, thy will be done, not my will.
That's a hard lesson.
Exactly.
The amount of times that?
Cathy (35:51):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
We can do all the things.
It's something larger than us.
It's an energetic connectionthat is larger than us.
Have you ever had it
Rachel (36:06):
where you really, really think that you want something,
and then it doesn't happen, andat first you're, like, really
disappointed.
You're like, oh, thismanifesting doesn't work.
I'll just give up.
Oh, I'm not spiritual.
It doesn't exist.
Yeah.
And then literally, like, a fewdays later, or...
Something else will come andyou're like, Oh my God, that's
so much better than I could haveever imagined.
(36:28):
Yes.
Wow, because this happened to meactually with funnily enough,
again, just going back to a job.
It happened to me.
Like I went for this interview.
I thought I'd nailed it.
I was like in this place.
I was really vibing with thisgirl.
We were like having the besttime.
Best interview.
Like it wasn't even aninterview.
In fact, she was really intowellbeing and we were talking
about all this stuff as well.
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And I was like, this girl justgets me.
This is amazing.
I love this place.
I love this building.
I love this.
This is the best, this isopportunity.
Like it can't not happen.
Like I've seen this, this ishappening.
And then a few days later, shecalls me up and she's like, I'm
actually leaving the company andwe need to re interview with the
guy that's taking over.
I'm like, Oh my gosh, what?
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And I was like, oh, well, that'sfine.
She loved me.
So they're bound to love me.
My ego stepped in.
I'm like, don't worry.
I've nailed it.
Like, it's all good.
I've lost the universe.
Like, this is manifested.
Cool.
It's happening.
Definitely.
I get there.
This guy literally hates me.
Oh.
What?
(37:30):
I'm like you can't even makethis up.
And I was so disappointed.
I, I cried.
I was like, I manifested that.
I've worked so hard.
I'd like, you know, I'd saw, Isaw myself there.
I'd visualized it.
I had the feeling.
I had everything.
I've taken the steps.
I've taken the action.
Oh my goodness, like this stuffdoesn't work anymore.
(37:50):
Oh, that's it.
Now what am I gonna do?
I don't know.
My faith, like, oh my god,everything I've ever believed in
is rubbish.
And I sat there for a few daysand I was like.
And then I had the voice going,Rach, remember yet God has a
plan much grander than your own.
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And at the time I was using anintention, an affirmation,
actually, I'll tell you what itis.
I wrote this down earlier.
It goes, what is meant for you?
No, what is it?
It's yeah.
What it's meant for me will findme exactly where I am and the
path that I'm on is aligning mewith everything that I need.
(38:32):
All as well.
Yeah.
So I stopped being disappointed.
I got quiet.
I went with d and I kid you notthat afternoon, I received a
phone call and they said, we'veseen your resume, we've got this
job.
You will absolutely alignperfectly.
Come and see us.
I kid you not amazing.
(38:54):
I went there and that's where Iwork now.
And my boss is a dream.
I absolutely love what I do.
And he was just amazing in withthe interviews.
Like he interviewed me afterhours because I was like, Oh my
God, I'm still at this otherjob.
I can't sneak around.
I'm no good at lying.
And he was like, that'sabsolutely fine.
And honestly, after that, I waslike.
(39:16):
Wow.
My commute is easier.
It's closer.
It was more pay.
It was everything.
And I was like,
Cathy (39:23):
See, you've had to get through that other thing.
Yeah.
I had to get through that otherthing.
Get that energy out of there.
Rachel (39:31):
Absolutely.
I had to, and I had to deal withthat disappointment and that
letdown and that, and my ego waslike, ha ha ha.
I had to move my ego out the wayI had to get quiet and I had to
trust and go, okay, what ismeant for me?
will come to me.
And then that was it.
(39:52):
Like, it did.
So you have to believe even whenyou think, well, it's not
working and
Cathy (39:57):
be patient.
And remember this right now, myfriend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, no, be speaking this toyourself as well.
Note to self.
Rachel (40:07):
Note to self.
Cathy (40:08):
Yeah.
So these steps that you have,you have be open, clear, feel
it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Trust.
What else?
Yep.
The surrender.
Rachel (40:18):
Surrender.
Yeah.
And remember that we can'tcontrol everything and just
accept that because otherwiseit's called manic manifesting.
If we start forcing stuff allover the place.
Yeah.
Tell me about that.
Manic manifesting.
Well, that was just, thatexample that I gave you was me
manic manifesting, I guess.
(40:38):
Oh, yeah.
It was just that whole, thatcrazy phase.
I wasn't quiet.
I wasn't listening.
I thought I knew best, but Ididn't.
Cathy (40:46):
I feel like this, you see this, or this happens in
relationships at times as well.
You know, like we want so muchto be in a relationship, or we
want to be sometimes.
The trauma bonding will takeover, or the, you know, the
things will happen
Rachel (41:03):
that...
Oh, yeah, I call it fantasizingand idealizing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's ideal, I think, so I'llfantasize about this, and then I
miss all of the red flags.
Yeah.
And then, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
Demonic manifesting inrelationships, 100 percent
resonate with that.
Cathy (41:22):
So do you have any tips on how to develop a
manifestation practice?
Yes.
Or the
Rachel (41:30):
other thing that I was going to touch on in that list
you just made there was onemajor thing that we haven't
spoken about yet is be grateful.
So we need to act like italready exists, get excited and
be grateful as if it's alreadygiven.
(41:52):
And if we love affirmations, Ihave another one.
And essentially, I know I lovethem, they're the best.
Essentially, this one is.
I believe I receive gratefullyand graciously.
Amen.
So I'm, I believe that I'm goingto receive it and I'm already
grateful.
(42:13):
So having absolute gratitude,I'm not just talking about, oh
yeah, thanks.
To the point of tears in myeyes, pure joy, gratefulness,
Cathy (42:23):
feeling it as much as you are saying,
Rachel (42:27):
it's the same feeling, feeling the emotion that you are
so overwhelmingly grateful andact like it already exists.
Yeah.
You know what?
I need to take that tip with therelationship thing, don't I?
You know what?
I know.
Act like my husband alreadyexists.
Cathy (42:45):
That's so hard to like it already exists.
It's so hard because what ifyou're trying to like manifest.
More money in your life, right?
You can't just live like youalready have all that money,
because...
Rachel (42:58):
Ah, well, interestingly you say that.
But you can be grateful for whatyou already have.
And you can be grateful forabundance.
And you can kind of start livinglike it exists.
I mean, I don't know about you,but I've actually been reading
loads about money lately.
And I've been doing a lot ofwork around that because again,
it just comes from that lackmentality, the self esteem
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stuff.
And I read a few books recently,as you know, Oh, and actually
some Bob Proctor again,affirmation.
One of the things that I say ismoney comes to me freely.
From expected and unexpectedsources.
Me too.
Cathy (43:38):
That's what I'm going to say a lot.
Funnily
Rachel (43:41):
enough, right, this is a real story.
Last, was it last year?
I was actually teaching thisyoung lad.
This, I had a rookie come andwork with me and I was training
him up.
And he started showing interestin self development and all of
this stuff.
We were talking about TonyRobbins and blah, blah.
And then we got talking aboutmoney and mindset and I was
like, Here, I'll give you anaffirmation and I'll do it with
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you.
And for 21 days straight, we aregoing to say this in the office,
right?
Our boss wasn't around.
I was supposed to be traininghim doing other stuff, but I'm
like, this is really important.
After our morning meeting, we'regoing to say these affirmations.
I started doing it and I waslike, okay, I know I talk the
talk, but okay, I can, this,something's happening.
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I could feel a shift and lo andbehold, both of us after 21
days, he got a check.
Something happened.
I do.
I think he was due some likeinheritance or something.
I don't know whether it's likean uncle passed away.
He got like 55, 000 pounds.
He's a 19 year old boy.
Oh my gosh.
(44:45):
I know.
It just came to him from anunexpected source.
He wasn't expecting that.
Then really weirdly I went to myparents for the weekend and
funny enough, and I was textingthat lad on the way to my
parents.
I was texting him.
We were out of work and we wouldtalk about something else.
And I was like, don't forget tosee your affirmation.
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So I'm not there.
And he was like, yeah, make sureyou do as well.
And I was like, yeah, I'm on it,blah, blah.
And I was just kind of givinghim a pep talk.
I didn't really take much noticeof myself.
I got to my parents and my momwas like, Oh, you've got a
letter here in a brown envelope.
And I'm like, Oh, like whatstill goes to my mom's house?
Like, Oh, this is going to be amassive check or like a bill.
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Like, Oh, what do I owe?
I've got a fine.
Oh my God.
I start thinking like, then Iwas like, before I opened it, I
went, no, this is going to be acheck to me.
And I honestly, I opened it andit wasn't the biggest amount in
the world, but it was like over800 pounds.
That I was completely notexpecting.
And I was like,
Cathy (45:52):
that's huge.
It's funny that you say thatbecause I was saying this
affirmation, something verysimilar to it, like I just add
on every day.
So money comes to me in moneycomes to me every day and
expected in unexpected ways orsomething like that.
Right.
Similar thing.
I had bought a, I had purchaseda, like a fundraising coupon
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book from one of my friends for.
Her child's football fundraiserand a 25, like not a big amount.
I get to the football game onFriday night and she's like, and
it had been 25.
Right.
I knew that, gave her a checkearlier in the day for it, got
there that night.
And she's like, Oh, here's 5back.
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They're selling them for 20 nowinstead of 25.
And I was like, boom, wasn'texpecting that.
I know it's only 5, but moneyjust came back to me.
Like I've been using it, like,yeah, it's those little things,
it's like the little, we were atthe store the other day, even in
my daughter pulled out of the,you know, the little change
thing where if you pay in cash,then like you get your change
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back.
She pulled out a penny while shetried to put it back in, it spit
it back out at her.
But it was a, you know, onecent.
That's nothing.
But I'm like, here it is.
That's the universe giving youabundance, giving you money in
just a little way.
Rachel (47:06):
This is it.
And so it's about being gratefulagain for what we already have.
And okay, like we haven't gotthe million dollars.
But we're grateful for the 5 youjust got back.
Cathy (47:23):
Exactly.
Yeah.
Rachel (47:26):
And it's about being in the energy, the vibration of
receiving, and that kind of,that pure joy and gratitude and
everything that's attached tothat.
That's when the juicy stuffhappens.
Cathy (47:41):
That's beautiful.
Yeah, I love that.
It's so true.
So true.
Okay, well I have to tell thestory then about the keyboard
that I just told you becauseYes.
We need to hear that.
It's such a good one.
So I, a few weeks ago was typingat my computer and had the
thought, like it merely passedthrough my head.
(48:03):
I really should get or need toget a Bluetooth keyboard or
wireless keyboard so I can justmove my keyboard down to my lap,
move it down lower.
It's not as high as my monitoris.
And not even two days later, myfriend messages me and said,
Hey, I have an extra Bluetoothkeyboard because my son doesn't
need it for school this year.
They come with their iPads.
So do you have any use for aBluetooth keyboard?
(48:24):
I know that's a weird request,but I was like, yes, the thought
just went through my head, I doneed one.
It might not have even been twodays.
It might've been the next day oreven later that day.
And she's like, great, I'll getit to you tomorrow.
And the keyboard, it's exactlywhat I wanted.
And she.
Did all the research for me andtook all the work out of it.
And I just got to receive thebenefits and the mere thought
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had just gone through my head.
I had never thought that thoughtbefore, but for whatever reason,
I thought, wow, I should reallyget a wireless keyboard, not
just a wireless mouse, but awireless keyboard.
And then one appeared.
So it's kind of a beautifulthing.
Rachel (49:02):
It is a beautiful thing.
And what's amazing is when thestuff happens quickly, because
like we did talk about patience,we've talked about sometimes
it's about like justsurrendering, let go, wait,
divine timing.
Sometimes it's quick and it'sthose little wins that we go, Oh
my God, I only asked for thatlike two days ago.
Or you didn't even likepurposely set that you just
(49:23):
thought it because thoughtsbecome things.
That's all manifesting is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's true.
The thought is there.
Cathy (49:33):
It's true.
So negative or positive thoughtsbecome things.
Yeah.
So if we're thinking negativelyabout ourselves or about others,
it happens.
It can
Rachel (49:43):
happen.
And that, again, that goes backto, and ties in with the
relationship situation is Ihaven't been able to thus far
manifest man is because mythoughts are not aligned.
With that, my thoughts have notalways been that positive about
myself, for many other reasons.
I'm sure we'll cover thatanother day.
(50:05):
Yeah, But essentially that'swhat it boils down to is yeah,
thoughts become things andmanifesting has to start with
the thought.
Anything that ever exists nowwas once a thought.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yeah.
It's kind of dangerous thatthoughts become things, right?
Right.
(50:25):
Right.
It's like, oh, what am Ithinking?
Right.
We might not have to think
Cathy (50:30):
stuff all the time.
Keep your clean, keep your mind.
Yeah.
What did your mom say?
She's a white witch.
White witch.
Yes.
Keep your mind clean and whiteand like just the positive
things that you want.
Rachel (50:42):
Yeah.
Good vibes
Cathy (50:43):
only.
Exactly.
Okay.
So if someone wants to developor to start a practice of
manifesting, what's a good wayto go about
Rachel (50:51):
doing that?
Get quiet.
Just be still.
Even just three minutes in themorning to begin with.
I can't tell you enough, likehow important that is.
It's because we can't createanything like we can't be open
to those creative possibilitiesif we're just chaotic.
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And we're running around frompillar to post, from job to day
job, to this and that, and thekids, and the school run, and
the homework, and then thehusband, and then the da da da.
We just need to get quiet.
So if you want to develop apractice of manifestation, like
to get manifesting, go within.
It's that simple.
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And I think it's...
Cathy (51:34):
Easiest to do that, if you can tie it to something
else, you know, I talk abouthabits and if you can tie that
habit of stillness to anotheractivity that you're already
doing.
So maybe it's at the end of yourworkout when you're stretching
and you take just a little bitof time to lie down, sit down,
whatever it may be.
But if you're.
Yeah, I mean, stretching is notalways a habit that people have
(51:56):
when they're done working out.
So here I'm encouraging you toalso stretch, but that would be
a time that you could also bestill enough or following that.
Maybe it's right.
Like you said, right.
When you get up in the morning,maybe it's just waking three
minutes earlier than younormally do so that you have
three minutes of stillness.
Rachel (52:15):
Yeah.
And if you're worried aboutthat, just set the alarm five
minutes earlier and then, youknow, you've got an extra two if
you need.
I did it this morning.
I, you know, I thought I need todo that before I go to work.
I didn't miss a train because Imade sure I got my ass up.
But I went to the bathroom.
I did what I need to do.
And then I sat there on mymeditation cushion just three
(52:37):
minutes because I knew.
Okay I need to rush for thetrain.
There's like strikes and stuffgoing on here in London.
It's an absolute drama to getanywhere, but I know I needed to
do that.
And that set me up perfectlybecause everyone else on that
train was stressed.
They were shouting, swearing,everything else.
And I was just like, Hmm,today's going to be a good day.
(53:00):
And people will often say to melike, wow, how are you so calm?
Would you know why?
It's because I set my alarmfive, 10 minutes earlier, I sat
on the cushion and just gotstill.
It's funny, actually, lastnight, because I normally, I try
and do a little bit in themorning, just a quick one in the
morning because I like my sleepbut before I go to bed at night,
(53:21):
I usually try and do about 20minutes as a routine, like
sometimes if I've got time, thenthey'll be longer, and the
longer ones are like a treat,but as a ritual, it's like 20
minutes before bed, and lastnight, I ended up on the phone,
and I was having a chat withsomeone, and then I was like,
ugh, I can't be bothered tomeditate now.
I'm just going to turn the lightoff and go to sleep while I'm
(53:41):
here, cozy, and just put thephone down.
And I laid there for like anhour tossing and I was like, Oh,
I'm just going to have to get upand get on the cushion because I
haven't done it.
And my body was telling me like,no, you need to just have that
moment before.
And yeah.
Cathy (54:04):
I had to do that.
What does that look like?
And not just not necessarilymeditating, but if you're waking
up and you're setting theintention of visualizing or
manifesting, it is, what doesthat include?
Does it include visualization?
Does it include imagining orknowing the sentence, all the
other senses that come intoplay?
What does that include?
(54:27):
For me now,
Rachel (54:28):
like coupled with like my impatience and stuff like
that, I've really had to work onthat.
And so I tend to just let go.
I'm not.
Specifically calling in anythingright now, so I will just
personally, I just get still andI will say that what is meant
for me will find me exactlywhere I am and the path that I
(54:50):
am on is aligning me witheverything that I need all as
well because for me I'm just ina place where I'm very happy.
I'm content.
I don't feel like anything'smissing.
I don't feel there's anythingparticularly majorly coming my
way right now.
I'm just in the path of, I amactually truly grateful for how
things are in my life.
And that's just for mepersonally.
(55:12):
I would say that if someone wastrying to call something in,
then take that time and maybejust sit and, like you just
said, add the senses, add thefeeling and the visualization.
I always, I say visualization,don't close my eyes there.
Because for me, it's like...
The third eye visualize it therein your mind's eye.
(55:33):
Yeah.
And hopefully the audience,people that are listening to
this will understand what wemean by that.
Cathy (55:40):
Yeah.
Oh, they
Rachel (55:41):
will.
Yeah.
I'm sure that the people thatare listening are already
aligned with this message, butyeah.
Is it, I think, so if there'ssomething particularly that you
want to manifest, it's, yeah,getting that visual and
imagining yourself, imagining itcoming towards you.
(56:02):
If it's a house, for example,imagine yourself in that place,
you know, what are your things?
Where do you want them?
What does it look like?
I don't know.
What color are the walls?
All of those
Cathy (56:15):
things.
I think the thing is even if itdoesn't make sense to you, it's
okay.
You know, even if you haveimages or hear things or see
words or whatever it may be,that may not make any sense.
That's and allow them to just bethere.
That's beautiful.
And you need to be able to dothat.
(56:36):
Yep.
Rachel (56:37):
Again, being open to the creative possibilities.
Yeah.
Being curious.
Right.
What you said at the beginningof this.
Cathy (56:44):
Yeah.
The other thing is, is there anywrong way to go about
manifesting?
Don't suppose
Rachel (56:53):
there is.
I'm just thinking that.
that's a really thoughtprovoking question.
That's, yeah, I don't thinkthere's a right or wrong.
I think it's really personal.
It's a journey.
Mm hmm.
If you follow the steps, like Isay, it's like ask, let it go,
(57:15):
wait, be grateful.
Mm hmm.
Boom.
That's
Cathy (57:19):
it.
Gratitude is such a huge part ofit.
Huge, huge part of it.
Rachel (57:24):
Yeah.
I done a whole episode on mypodcast about gratitude and I
will do more because it's ahuge, huge part.
Count your blessings.
Cathy (57:36):
Perfect.
I will link to that.
Exactly.
I will link to that episode.
I think I've got probably acouple.
Gratitude one, maybe two.
I
Rachel (57:43):
scanned, scanned through it and had a little look.
Cathy (57:46):
Yeah.
I think I've got some.
You've got loads.
I'll find
Rachel (57:49):
them.
I'll link to them.
You've got
Cathy (57:50):
loads of episodes.
Wow.
Okay.
Is there anything else we needto talk about with manifesting
today?
Um,
Rachel (57:57):
I mean, if people really still need some advice or tips,
then YouTube's great.
Gabby Bernstein is great.
Cathy (58:09):
And there's so many, you know, like on Insight Timer,
there are so many manifestation.
So the Insight Timer app is afree app or you can pay for it.
And it's got so many differentmeditations and manifestation.
Activations and all sorts ofthings that you can explore on
that app as well.
That's a great place to start.
Rachel (58:30):
That's a cool place to start.
And yeah, YouTube literally justtype in manifestation or
manifesting meditation, forexample.
But one great book is theuniverse has got your back by
Gabby great place to start.
And also her, one of her otherbooks super attractor.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's
Cathy (58:49):
a really, really great book.
I've heard of it.
It's been on my list.
Oh,
Rachel (58:52):
yeah.
That's a great book.
And because as well, that reallycovers where we talked about
manic manifesting and also thatreally covers a huge part of
being able to let go andremembering you're not in
control because she was actuallytrying to manifest a child and
she was having IVF and she waslike asking the universe for
signs and she wouldn't see thesigns.
(59:13):
And we have to remember that nosign is a sign.
Because we need to accept, like,okay, I haven't seen, like, ten
chickens or whatever my neighborhas bought.
Okay we need to accept that isthe answer.
The unanswered question.
Yeah, still the answer.
But yeah, that's a great bookbecause then it covers a lot
(59:36):
about...
Asking for signs and theneventually seeing them and then
accepted divine timing andbecause eventually she did have
a baby So it's a fascinatingstory But yeah, definitely as
well Wayne Dyer.
Dr.
Wayne Dyer is a great one Verymuch.
So again linking theChristianity and God part of it
(01:00:01):
and the I am affirmations Soyeah, there's there's a lot of
resource out there Just type inmanifesting and we're good to
go.
Well, you have given
Cathy (01:00:12):
us a whole lot of good tips and resources as well.
So thank you.
And I will link to your podcast,which is Life Re Framed.
Um, right?
Yep, absolutely.
I will link to your contactinformation, but where can we
find you on?
Um, I hang out
Rachel (01:00:30):
mostly on Instagram.
Yep.
And, uh, Instagram is my vibe.
It's life underscore reframed77.
Nice.
Like, when I read this thingjust the other day that was, and
we should know this anyway, butit's nice to have a reminder.
When you keep seeing things,synchronicity.
(01:00:50):
That is your sign from theuniverse from God from whoever
you're on the right path rightnow This is exactly like the nod
from the universe to go.
Yeah, you've got this Keep doingwhat you're doing.
But yeah, 77 just kept showingup for me.
I did look it up I think againit has to do with Manifesting
and it has to do withsynchronicity and it was just
(01:01:14):
like, of course, like, yeah,that just fits right now.
Cathy (01:01:17):
I have two questions before we wrap up today.
I have two questions.
So first tell us how everythingthat we've talked about today,
how all the manifesting stuffcultivates greater health,
harmony, and happiness in yourlife.
And you can either separate eachof those qualities out health,
harmony, and happiness, or youcan lump them together as this
(01:01:38):
idealistic thing that we are.
Seeking.
Okay, that's a great question.
So it cultivates health.
Yep, tell us how manifesting, orhow what we've talked about
today, cultivates greaterhealth, harmony, and happiness
(01:01:59):
in your life.
Well,
Rachel (01:02:01):
essentially, it can manifest health and be grateful
for the health we already have.
So, it definitely does that, andjust recently in the last few
months, I've actually, being onthat journey myself and gone
back to the gym, been eatinghealthily.
But again, I had to kind ofmanifest that and I had to
really think about it.
(01:02:21):
And yeah, I would do some workon the resistance around that as
well, but like visualize myselfin the gym and visualize myself
eating healthily, preparingmeals, dah, dah, dah, dah.
So I would say that, yeah, youcan definitely use manifesting
to cultivate health in terms ofharmony, getting still
listening.
(01:02:43):
Doing all the things we justspoke about will bring greater
harmony within your life and mylife personally I 100 percent
and like so harmonized and sobalanced because of I believe in
this stuff right and because Ipractice it regularly,
happiness, of course like whynot like it's It brings great,
(01:03:08):
great happiness when even justthe keyboard arriving on the
doorstep of your friend.
How happy were you?
Cause it's like, wow.
And the same with me when I thenlanded the better job and it's,
wow.
And that wow, and that kind ofin awe of the universe and kind
(01:03:29):
of just that, wow, it's mindblowing.
And that for me is purehappiness.
Cathy (01:03:38):
They all work together.
Right?
They all work together.
They all work together.
Um, and the last question iswhat's one thing you're doing
right now to invite moreintention into your life?
Oh,
Rachel (01:03:56):
well, we just had the new moon and I have to kind of
focus on letting go of some oldbeliefs and surrendering that
kind of surrender to theuniverse and to strengthen my
relationship with myself.
And look at self esteem andworthiness and those things.
(01:04:20):
And that has meant that I've hadto let go of some old patterns
and some old beliefs becausethey just, they don't suit me
anymore, right?
So I'm letting that shit go.
Just
Cathy (01:04:29):
the fact that you took the time to set intentions with
the new moon.
Yes.
Is the way you're beingintentional.
I mean, that's a beautifulrepresentation of how to be more
intentional and then to begin towork towards those intentions
for sure.
Rachel (01:04:45):
And I have them sat right next to me here with my
little green adventuringcrystal.
Cathy (01:04:51):
I love it.
And I have a
Rachel (01:04:52):
rose quartz over there with my telling myself I've
always believed in true love andit will find me when I'm
Cathy (01:04:59):
ready.
I love it.
I love it.
I have all my crystals in acircle here on my desk in a
little kind of circle of life,wheel of life type circle here.
That's beautiful.
And I love it.
With an inspire stone in themiddle of them.
So this to remind me, inspire.
(01:05:19):
Oh, wow.
Love that.
Okay, Rachel, thank you so muchfor taking the time today and
for being here and for sharingyour insights and wisdom on
manifesting.
Rachel (01:05:29):
It's been amazing.
Thank you for inviting me onyour show, Kathy.
I'm so proud to be here and justabsolutely grateful, let's say,
gratitude, attitude ofgratitude.
Cathy (01:05:42):
Good.
Well, absolutely.
I'm glad to have you.
Such a fun episode with Rachel.
I hope that you were able totake something away from it.
Her podcast is life reframed,and it's got kind of a pink
cover with a triangle on it andalmost like it looks like a
smiley face underneath thetriangle.
So.
Catch that wherever you catchyour podcasts.
(01:06:05):
And I will also link to it herein the show notes.
So remember that just because.
Sometimes manifestation isassociated with witchy, Venus.
This or dark arts.
It's really just about allowingthe positive flow of energy.
To create abundance, and that'sessentially what prayer is all
(01:06:30):
about, right.
It's asking for blessings.
So however you do that, whetherthat's to the universe, to God,
to Jesus, the holy spirit, to,Spirit in general.
Whatever it is.
It's simply opening yourself upto the potential and the
possibility for positivity toflow in your life.
(01:06:54):
And that's a beautiful way toreframe a topic that might
actually otherwise Leave peoplequestioning its place in this
world.
Until next time...you've beenlistening to health harmony and
happiness with Cathy.
Cheers to cultivating your ownversion of health harmony and
happiness in your life.
Can Christianity and manifesting go in the same
sentence?
I believe they can and we'regoing to talk all about that
today with my guest, rachelBayford./ Welcome to episode 88
(01:26):
of the show.
I am grateful that you're hereand taking a listen today.
This is a little bit longerepisode, so you might have to
break it up into a couple oflistening sessions, but it's a
great one to take along with youon the walk or when you're
making dinner or in a car ride.
So.
Have a listen.
Today, we are talking all aboutmanifestation now as a
(01:49):
Christian.
In my mind, I've kind of hadquestions about this in my life.
I don't think I've probably evershied away from it or thought it
was dark arts or Wrongnecessarily.
But.
I just had questions about it.
And questions about whether ornot.
It works, what it means, whatit's about.
(02:11):
And you might have those samequestions too.
Whether it's something that weeven should be doing, I guess.
And I'll tell you what, as Ihave dived into reading the
Bible this year.
I'm reading the Bible in a year.
If I haven't told you that yet.
But, um, You know, the thingthat I can take away from this
(02:34):
podcast episode.
And from reading the Bible isthat it's.
A positive flow of energy.
And that's the kind of love thatGod wants us to have for each
other and especially for him.
And that's the kind of lovethat.
He wants us to know that he hasfor us, is this positive?
(02:56):
Love and forgiveness.
And.
Manifesting is really all aboutbeing open to the positivity of
abundance that we can have inour lives.
Yes, there are going to be hardtimes and also we can still keep
that clear vision that clearhope that.
(03:16):
Positivity and abundance can bea part of our lives and can
exist.
So, let that be a little bit ofa nudge.
If this episode is one that youmight even be questioning
whether or not to listen to,because it is really beautiful.
And my guest, Rachel buffered.
Is brilliant.
And she's super fun to listen tobecause of course she has an
(03:38):
English accent.
So it is.
Just a lovely time to listen to,but like I said, you might need
to break it up into smallerbits.
Here's what you'll learn intoday's episode.
You'll learn what manifestingis, why it's okay to manifest,
even if you're Christian.
The steps to manifest and whatmanifest.
And what manic manifesting isand why it won't work for you.
(04:02):
The one last little bit of info.
I want to tell you aboutmanifesting before we jump in,
is that I've done some work withmanifesting and had some pretty
amazing results, quite honestly.
(04:23):
In my thoughts on this over theyears, I have basically come to
the conclusion that As God beingthe creator of all and all
things good.
That's what manifesting involvesis positive energy.
(04:44):
A positive outlook and beliefand opening the channels for
that positivity to actually comeinto your life.
The Bible states, even that.
God will grant you the desiresof your heart.
If you believe and trust in him.
Now that might not always be inthis lifetime.
(05:08):
But.
When we opened the channels ofpositivity.
When we open our hearts.
And treat others how we want tobe treated.
Positive things happen.
And we can begin to call thosein with the actions that we
take, whether that'svisualization, whether that's
meditating, whether that'sprayer, whether that is
(05:30):
physically moving our bodies totake action.
We have the ability to call inwhat we want in this life.
It doesn't always mean that whatwe ask for, we are going to
receive.
But what if there is somethingeven better waiting for us?
Something to think about...
(05:52):
And before we go any further, Ialso want to invite you to be a
part of my weekly breathe toflow class.
This is a class that takes placeevery week.
On Wednesdays it's currently at1:00 PM.
I'm not opposed to moving it toa different time.
1:00 PM central time.
But it is basically$9 a classand I will link to it in the
(06:13):
show notes.
It's a 30 minute guided breathwork class, and you're saying,
why would I need that?
I breathe every day on my own,without somebody telling me how
to breathe.
Let me tell you friends.
It is super beneficial to takethat little bit of a pause.
And honestly, I would encourageyou to do some form of
intentional breath work everysingle day.
(06:34):
But this is just offering theopportunity for you to have the
space held for you for someoneelse to take you through a
guided breath work, practicethat.
Can alter how you feel.
That's a midweek reset, kind of,it can connect you with
yourself.
It can connect you with spirit.
It can connect you with theintention that maybe You need to
(06:57):
let go, or you want to moveforward or whatever your
intention may be.
It just gives you a.
Place.
And a held pause in your week.
To reset.
And to recharge so that you'reready for the rest of the week.
And it's all virtual, so anybodycan take part in it.
(07:17):
And that's the great thing.
You don't have to come to thestudio.
You don't even have to leaveyour desk at work.
You could just take a 30 minutebreak.
Tune in and listen, your cameradoesn't even have to be on when
you're on the zoom.
It's a zoom call.
So you camera doesn't have to beon.
You could go to your car andtake a little bit of a break.
If you're working.
And sit in your car and do thebreath work.
(07:37):
But I will tell you.
That.
Nine times out of 10 whensomebody else leads me through a
Breath work practice.
It is so much more beneficial tome.
Then when I lead myself throughit.
Even though I have the tools andI have the skills and I have the
ability to do it on my own, hereis just a different energy and
(07:59):
just a different experience whenyou are.
In community and held in thatspace where someone else.
Gets to guide you throughsomething.
That can help you and hold yourhand in a sense.
In letting go.
In creating the vision that youwant to create.
There's accountability in that.
(08:20):
And there's also encouragementand the feeling of being lifted
up and supported by someoneelse.
So I want to invite you to be apart of that weekly class.
It happens.
Right here on your device,whatever you're listening to,
you can tune in or you can tunein on your computer.
And I would love to have you, soI'll drop a link in the show
(08:41):
notes.
On with the show.
Welcome to the show, Rachel.
We are talking manifestingtoday, and I asked you to be on
the show because you have abeautiful show that that kind of
led me to believe that, youknow, a little bit of something
about manifesting.
(09:02):
And so I just wanted to get yourtake on it.
We've also had someconversations about just
believing in a lot of differentthings and being open to
receiving different ideas anddifferent thoughts out there.
So my initial thought in havingyou on was that I wanted to talk
out this idea of Christianityand manifesting.
(09:28):
I've told you that I amChristian and yet I still also
believe in manifesting.
And for some people that canseem outrageously wrong.
I also believe that when we aresomeone who believes in this
higher divine power or energeticforce that resides within us, we
(09:53):
have to be curious with what itcan do and with how we can use
that energy.
And it's all a matter ofconnecting the energy around us
and connecting the energy that'savailable to us.
And that's kind of how I seemanifesting and also I believe
that that's, as a Christian, theHoly Spirit, the energy of that
(10:13):
Holy Spirit living or residingwithin us, and then we get to
choose and we get to use how weuse that positive light, how we
use that positive energy to callforth abundance and positivity
that we might desire in thisworld.
Well, that doesn't mean thatwe're not going to have trouble
and things are always going tobe easy breezy, but we do have
(10:36):
the ability to transcend intothis higher state of perception
and experiencing life.
Does that make sense?
Rachel (10:45):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And I just want to say thank youfor having me over on your show.
It's a pleasure to be here.
I am absolutely so excited totalk about this topic.
It's one of my favorite thingsand I absolutely love the whole
idea of manifesting.
And I love your thoughts on it.
So that's awesome.
And I love your spin and how youkind of, just brought that
(11:09):
Christianity into it.
And it's interesting conceptbecause one of my beliefs is it
doesn't really matter whatreligion we are.
Essentially, it's the samething.
And you picked up on two wordsthat I absolutely resonate with.
And when you were saying that, Iwas like, yes.
So one of the words is curious.
(11:30):
And I think in terms ofmanifesting, it's essentially
like being curious.
And that curiosity is where itbegins, I think.
And then you also mentioned likethe Holy Spirit within us.
So, yeah.
Everything is energy.
We are just energetic beings.
(11:51):
And, yeah, it's my belief thatwe have spirit within us.
I think, yeah, the curiosity,going back to that, one of the
main phrases that I wouldassociate with manifesting is
being open to creativepossibilities.
Cathy (12:08):
how do you define manifestation?
Rachel (12:10):
How do I define manifestation?
Asking the universe, makingwishes it's just knowing that we
can create our reality andtrusting that.
I think, yeah, that's hard tosay how I would define it, but
yeah, I'll go
Cathy (12:32):
with that.
That sounds pretty good.
Sounds pretty good.
Being open to receiving it andbeing curious about it
Rachel (12:39):
I read that somewhere a while back.
I don't know who coined thephrase.
I think that is really kind ofwhat manifesting is, right?
It's just being open and beingcurious about creative
possibilities.
But I mean, manifesting hasbecome such a popular term
nowadays.
And it's funny because we seelike manifesting 101, manifest
(13:02):
this.
I don't know about you, but Iremember as a kid.
It wasn't called that, but itwas still a thing.
So for example I remember in myteens, I would call it cosmic
ordering.
And essentially I, yeah, and Iremember one of my first jobs, I
just knew I had this sense ofbeing like, I just had this
(13:23):
feeling inside me that it'sabsolutely going to happen.
It's absolutely like nonnegotiable.
And I remember saying to my momand she was like, how are you so
certain?
You know, your CV, your resumeisn't.
Up to scratch, and I was like,nope, it's gonna happen.
And she was like, but how do youknow?
Because I asked the clouds.
And she was like, what?
And this was before I knewanything about manifesting.
(13:47):
I didn't know what it wascalled.
But I just knew that I was beingguided.
And it just felt right.
And that's happened with amillion things.
Like I could give you so manyexamples from all of my life.
Yeah.
So is that
Cathy (14:03):
you, it's tuning into this inner guidance, right?
Yeah.
Honestly, I like to think of theinner guidance as the voice of
God within you.
And it's like the, and when youcan get quiet enough to just
hear that and to just know, butwe have to stop all the
busyness, like we have to slowdown and stop all the chaos that
we tend to create or invite intoour lives.
(14:24):
We have to be quiet and then wecan hear that voice.
And it's really interesting.
So if you, it wasn't calledmanifestation and you called it,
what did you say?
Cosmic ordering?
Rachel (14:34):
Cosmic ordering.
But even before I knew thatphrase, it was just asking the
clouds, speaking to the sky andmaking wishes.
Cathy (14:45):
Some people call that prayer, right?
Like absolutely.
Rachel (14:48):
And I guess.
Yeah, it was, I guess it isprayer.
And I remember as a small child,the first thing I learned at
school in the way of God wasLord, the Lord's prayer.
And very often as a child, if Ifelt scared or a little bit
uncertain.
I straight away was like, I'lldo the Lord's prayer.
(15:10):
And so I guess that, and thatkind of that energy was always
around me because my mom used togo to church, my grandma my
great grandmother, she believedin God and would go to church
and very Christian family.
Yeah.
It was kind of.
But also a little bit witchy.
Yes,
Cathy (15:29):
yes.
And I think that's what of whenthey think of manifesting.
Like, ooh, you're summoning youknow, evil spirits or something.
Yeah.
Which, it is all how you theintention you place behind it.
Like,
Rachel (15:47):
it's intentional.
And again, even referring to awitch my mum used to say, oh
yeah, I'm a witch but a whitewitch.
And it would make it acceptable.
What is that supposed to meaneven?
Yeah, what does that even mean?
But I go to church so it's okaybecause it kind of like
counterbalances this out.
She's a clean witch, it's okay.
Clean, I'm white.
(16:10):
But yeah I guess I used to seeit happening as well as a child
because I remember my greatgranny passed away and I
remember that my mom would stilltalk to her, and so her spirit
was still around us.
And then we would ask her forstuff, even as simple as just a
parking space.
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And I remember my mom would go,Oh, there's no parking anywhere.
And she'd be driving around theparking lot, and then she'd be
like, Come on, granny, where'sthe space?
And then right before our eyes,somebody would back out of the
space, and vroom, we would goin.
And it was like, oh.
This stuff works.
Beautiful.
Next time I need something,let's ask granny.
(16:52):
Granny was spirit.
It was just source.
It was just something.
And then that was become abelief.
And even to this day, like Iwill still tap into that and be
like, oh, granny, help me out.
You know?
Yeah.
And isn't that amazing then?
I don't know whether it's justgranny or whether it's
collective or who
Cathy (17:09):
it is.
But when you slow down and pauseand then ask and invite.
The energy in or invite the theopenness for receiving whatever
you're asking for.
It's that openness and that askand ask and ask and ask and ask,
or manifest manifest and liketry and try and try, but.
(17:30):
Often, I think that there's somesort of little blockage that
might still be there.
And lots of times it's a littlelimiting belief that we just
have a little bit of doubt thatfor whatever reason, it's not
truly possible what you'reinterested in.
And it's
Rachel (17:45):
really interesting that you say that, and I can resonate
with that story because justtalk about myself a little bit
here.
So I've manifested everythingfrom such a young age, including
houses.
jobs, moving cities, like movingto London was a really big deal.
Like London is bloody expensive,right?
(18:06):
And it always seems so far off,but I was like, nope, where
there's a will, there's a way.
I've seen it in my life path.
It's going to happen.
I'm going to manifest and overtime I did.
I've manifested cars, I'vemanifested money, I've
manifested friends, I'vemanifested to do training, do my
NLP practitioner.
You name it, I manifested it,except...
(18:27):
Men.
And I can't manifest a bloodyboyfriend.
I am so not successful atfinding a man and finding love.
Cathy (18:38):
So what is the link there?
Rachel (18:40):
You just nailed it.
Limiting beliefs.
Because For the longest time andI've done some work around this
and it's getting better, and Ican see it coming now, but for
the longest time, I never feltworthy.
I never saw myself as a wife.
I never saw myself as like afamily person.
I never I couldn't see it.
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And of course, the universeisn't gonna just deliver it if I
can't see it happening.
Like, how can I possibly bloomand manifest when it's just non
existent to me right now?
Cathy (19:11):
Yes! Like I was just saying, with my vision of it's
fuzzy.
Well, yeah.
What's getting in the way then?
Rachel (19:20):
So this is it.
let's talk about.
Suggestions on how we manifest,and one of the first thing I say
is be clear, and this is athing, like, it's all about
intention, and you have to beclear, and you have to be open,
and this is the problem with mefinding a man.
Is realistically, if I'm honestlet's get truthful.
I've been on billions of datingapps, Tinder, Bumble you name
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it.
I've stalked people on Facebook.
I've stalked people onInstagram, but really...
But let's get clear.
You're not really a stalker.
It's okay.
Yeah, I'm not a real stalker,just a, you know, a stalker
stalker.
But when we actually really getdown to it, I'm not giving a
clear message to the universe.
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Because it's fuzzy, like youjust said, and my intention is
all over the place because Idon't really know what I want.
If someone said to me, have yougot a type?
I'm like, no, I haven't got atype.
I don't know who I want.
One minute I want a British guy,then I want an American guy,
then I'm like, oh no, actuallymaybe someone from Egypt.
It'd be quite nice.
(20:24):
You know, you were saying this.
to me the other day.
Go ahead.
My friend said to me the otherday, right, it's the new moon,
let's set our intentions.
What do you want?
Tall, dark and handsome.
I'm like, no, I don't mind ifthey're short.
I don't know what I want.
So how the hell can the universedeliver this to me?
I can't call it in because Ireally have no clue.
Cathy (20:47):
Yeah.
You know, that's funny that yousay all of this, because I
remember being in this space, inthe same space that you are.
I don't know what, before Imarried my husband and like just
dating guys.
And I mean, back then therewasn't dating apps, but it was
this point where I finally justsat down and I made a list.
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What are the things that I findimportant?
What do I want in my partner?
And.
Made this list and some of thethings are not there with my
husband But for the most partlike he fits the bill like he
not good And that was a I don'tknow my friend said hey, I've
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got the guy you're gonna marrySo whenever you're ready to meet
him, you just let me know.
So Oh, wow Anyway, it worked outbut I've written so many.
I had to get clear on These arethe things Yeah.
But you need to actually getclear maybe and say, no, this is
what I really want.
I absolutely do.
And I don't want this because ofthis.
Rachel (21:51):
Yeah.
I absolutely.
Well, this is the thing.
Cause there's there's part of mewhere I've almost called in the
wrong energy, but I focused onwhat I don't want.
So then I'm essentially tellingthe universe that's where the
energy is.
I need to raise my vibrationaround that.
And like you say, get clear,but, and also be open again,
going back to what we said aboutbeing open to creative
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possibilities.
And I think that I'm very closedbecause, potentially, even if
Mr.
Wright knocked on my door, Iwould be like, Oh, sorry, I'm
busy, I've got to go to the gym,then I'm doing a podcast, and
then I'm doing this, and like,everything, you name it, I can
give you an excuse.
I have got every excuse in thebook.
So what
Cathy (22:32):
are you afraid
Rachel (22:32):
of?
Ah, yeah.
Where's the fear lie, hey?
Yeah.
And this is it.
It comes down to me.
I'm like, believing in myself,self esteem.
Am I even worthy of love?
You know, I wouldn't recognizelove if it whacked me in the
face or knocked on my front doortoday.
So,
Cathy (22:49):
yeah.
So, when we're talkingmanifesting, you first have to
be clear.
You do.
Yeah.
And you have to also be open toexploring what it is you really
want in order to get clear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rachel (23:04):
Yeah, definitely.
It is funny because again, likeI said, I'm going back to
manifesting jobs.
I was so clear I was adamant itfrom the age of seven.
I knew that's what I wanted todo Don't ask me how or why but I
just knew I was like that's inmy life path.
That's what I'm gonna do Myschool teachers thought I was
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crazy They're like don't youwant to train to be a nurse or a
vet or you know, I didn't knowpilot and I'm like, nope I know
what I want and so it was veryclear and that's why when it
came into my life, it was nosurprise.
It was like, yeah, well, I askedfor that.
Cathy (23:40):
Yeah.
So it's almost like, do you feellike some of these things we
know at a young age I think wehave better access to the, to
that inner guidance andintuition at a young age before
we have been cheated and beforewe've been clouded by like life
and people.
Not believing in our dreams andour hopes and our wants and
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desires so that we shut themdown and then we don't take the
opportunity to actually getquiet enough and listen and to
give ourselves permission to beokay with saying yes to what we
really want.
Yeah, for sure.
Because we put these limits andwe put them in a box and say,
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nope, that's not okay.
That's not what I really want.
Rachel (24:27):
Yeah, absolutely.
The limiting beliefs.
But yeah, as a kid, definitely,we're more open aren't we?
Because in the creativepossibilities, because we're
magical and everything's anadventure.
And like you say, before we getjaded and before someone says,
well, no, you can't do that.
Like, you know, there's ahundred rules and, oh, okay.
(24:47):
Well, before the relationshipthat hurts you so therefore you
are then fearful of like, oh mygod.
Yeah, let's move away from thatidea.
Let's avoid pain Becausenaturally we want to you know
It's easier to kind of almostavoid pain than it is to move
toward pleasure
Cathy (25:07):
Yeah, oh for sure.
Rachel (25:09):
So even though we know oh, that would be such a nice
experience over there Butactually, no, I'm gonna sit here
and just avoid that happeningagain and then Almost while
we're focusing on that, we'rethen telling the universe,
telling source, telling ourinner beings going, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, like that'sscary.
And then that's where the energygoes.
Cathy (25:31):
So yeah, it's interesting.
How do you unblock that?
It is.
Yeah.
Rachel (25:36):
I mean, how do you unblock that?
That's another topic.
I
Cathy (25:40):
know, I know it is.
Okay.
Back to this manifesting the jobthing though.
Yeah.
I can relate.
When I was in high school, I,Went to, went on a college
visit, I feel like, or I don'tknow if I went on a college
visit or just went to visit mysister where she was going to
college and we went into the reccenter and I was like, I'm going
to work here like this is whereI'm going to work when I come to
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college.
But then I was adamant thatlike, I was not going to that
school.
I went through this phase whereit was like, no, I'm going to
look at all these other schools.
I'm not going to go to thatschool.
But in the end.
That one just felt like I knewthat that was where I needed to
go to school.
That was like my home that feltlike home when I went to visit
the, when I went to visit mysister there, when I don't know
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how it went exactly, but sureenough, like I knew I was going
to work at the rec center.
My freshman year of college,then where did I get a job?
And it was a piece of cake.
Like my sister's sorority sisterhad a job there and she was
like, yeah, we're hiring rightnow.
Come to this, whatever you'regoing to, you'll be hired.
Love it.
I was hired and it was myfavorite job to this day.
(26:45):
I'm not even kidding you.
That's the favorite job I'veever had in my entire life.
So many great memories.
I worked there all five years.
I went to school, it was, it waslike, it was one of those
moments where I knew.
This is where I'm...
Supposed to be, and I think youhave those also, I had this
conversation last week withsomeone with houses.
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I think often when you go into ahouse or an environment, you
just know this is where I'msupposed to be.
I mean, you work in real estate,so you know, people get that
feeling.
Absolutely.
And
Rachel (27:17):
if you don't feel it, it's not happening.
Right.
Cathy (27:20):
Right.
Rachel (27:21):
Yeah.
Interesting that you just saidabout where you worked and the
place, and then you knew that.
And you just said it felt likehome.
Yeah, so Yeah, that's I wasgonna touch on that like when it
comes to manifesting the topmost important thing is feel it
People talk about vision boardsall the time, but more
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importantly, I think we need toattach the emotion So it's all
like we talked about being clearand being open, but then the
next step is Feel it Like, youjust hit the nail on the head
there with the feel like home.
You just knew it was going tohappen you knew we were going to
work there, because as soon asyou went there, you're like,
yeah, it feels right.
(28:04):
Like you just said, with walkingto a house, you're viewing and
you're like, yeah, it feelsright, it feels like home.
And then, yeah, then you canvisualize and go, oh yeah, I can
see my couch over there, I cansee myself living here, I can
see myself sunbathing in thatgarden.
Great.
The feeling, like, the emotionhas to be there.
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And then I think when you'regoing to manifest anything, it
is so important to attach theemotion to it.
And then that ties in with theNLP, like the Neuro Linguistic
Programming, because it's aboutall of our senses, our five
senses and our map of the world.
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Throw that into manifestation,it adds to it, like it adds a
flavor to it.
Like it's all really good.
Like you've got them to manifestthings like the recipe.
And you're asking and you say,right, here are the ingredients,
but then you chuck in theemotion.
You're like, that's when we getthe actual delicious food.
Cathy (29:11):
That's when the cohesion happens.
Yes.
Everything comes together.
It comes together.
Yeah.
I love it.
Rachel (29:18):
Yeah.
Okay.
Because it's that feeling as thefeeling as like of certainty.
You can feel that in your gut,can't you?
Like, when something feelsright, you just know.
And then again, when somethingfeels off, equally, you're like,
Nope, this is not for me,thanks, bye.
Get out of here.
Cathy (29:38):
How do you get to that point where you can feel that
though?
I'm sure people have been to theplace where they feel like they
know something is supposed tohappen and then it doesn't, it's
not really great results or it'snot, you know, it doesn't, life
doesn't unfold how they thoughtit would.
(29:59):
So then they start to doubttheir intuition or that inner
guidance because.
Oh, well, I trusted this,though.
That felt good in the moment.
It's not just a surface levelfeeling.
Rachel (30:11):
Uh, yeah, no, it's really deep.
But again, it's that when youjust said that, that trusting
it, that's the biggest thing aswell is having trust, having
unwavering faith.
Absolutely.
Even the unanswered prayers,even the unanswered
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manifestations, intentions,whatever we call it, We have to
trust that actually, you knowwhat, the greater power, God,
source, whatever we want to callit, actually has a plan much
grander than our own.
So whilst we think, oh yeah,like I really, really want that.
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If that's not meant to be, wehave to trust that actually, you
know what, that's not meant tobe.
Cathy (30:58):
I'm so glad you brought that up because we have freedom.
Yeah, it's so hard that one.
Rachel (31:02):
Yeah.
Cathy (31:03):
We still have to take action and make the steps
towards moving towards what wewant.
Yeah.
It's not, and I said this at thebeginning, like we can't, we are
not God or source or whateverthat creates out of thin air.
Yeah.
We have to take the steps andput this, put the steps in
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motion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, we do, because it can't
Rachel (31:29):
just magically happen on its own, like we, we're having a
human experience, so we have togo through, like you said, a
certain amount of steps.
And, yes, it's all well and goodputting the thought out there,
putting the manifestation,asking the clouds, as we called
it earlier, but, like you say,yeah, absolutely, we have to
take action.
Take, for example my move toLondon.
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I knew in my head, in my mind,in my thoughts, I'd visualized
it, I had the feeling, I just, Icould see myself.
Spending the summer in the parktime and time again.
And I had this feeling I couldalmost feel the sun on my skin.
I could smell the air, likeeverything added up.
(32:10):
But if I didn't physically getoff my ass and go and view the
house and make some calls, isn'tjust going to happen.
Like I had to pack my car fullof all my worldly belongings,
had to physically drive toLondon, view the house, you
know, pay the deposit, sort mystuff out, get the job, like.
(32:30):
Yeah.
Take action.
It was all well and gooddreaming about it, but true
manifesting is when you are,again, open to the creative
possibility, but also preparedto take action.
You can't just sit there andmagically just think, Oh yeah,
it will just land on my lap.
No, this
Cathy (32:50):
is human experience.
And yeah, and that's the balancein harmony in life, right?
Is in taking action and inreceiving.
And having them blend together.
Yeah.
But then, and
Rachel (33:06):
Then the best bit comes when you have to surrender.
And you have to just let go andgo.
Exactly.
I've done my bit.
I've took action.
Now I just have to chill out andwait.
Yeah.
Cathy (33:18):
And there's no set time.
There is no set time on whenthese things happen.
Big things obviously take alittle bit longer, right?
Rachel (33:29):
Absolutely.
They, yeah, they do.
I mean, that took a
Cathy (33:31):
couple of years.
You're simmering and you're,it's like the energy is just
making sure that everything isin the right place.
It's the most annoying thing.
Because so often, if we are allenergy and interconnected, all
the, the things have to alignfor the other people that are
involved as well.
Rachel (33:51):
Absolutely.
Yes.
And that's where I call itdivine timing.
Yeah, yeah, because like you sayit has to align and like you say
anyone else that's involved Idon't know the landlord of the
house or whatever it might be orthe person that's gonna give you
the job or like the personbefore you have to leave or some
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whatever it might be I've seenthat happen and I'm sitting
there impatiently.
'cause patience is not my strongpoint.
I have to admit, I'm like, whenthis gonna happen?
Oh, I've had to learn patience.
It's a long old journey, thatone.
But it's like you, yeah, youhave to be ready to be ready and
ready to receive, but equallylet go and surrender.
(34:37):
So ask and then let go.
Mm-hmm.
I read, I read somewhere, wherewas it?
Uh, I'm just thinking.
I think it was like OprahWinfrey or somebody, and she's
Make the wish, ask, let go.
Yeah.
Cathy (34:53):
Let go of all expectation.
Yes, surrender.
Just put it out there and thenrelease attachment to it.
Yeah,
Rachel (35:00):
release attachment.
That's a great way of explainingit.
And just being like open againto, okay.
And just knowing if it's meantto be, it will be.
And I always say, if it's meantto be, it will be, and if it
isn't, if it doesn't happen,then it wasn't meant to be, but
I'm going to be open to whateverthe outcome is, and then that's
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when the stuff that's meant foryou aligns with you.
And that having that unwaveringfaith and leaning into, I trust
the universe, no matter what theoutcome is, because at the end
of the day, God's got a planmuch grander than my own.
Exactly.
He knows
Cathy (35:39):
more than I do.
Rachel (35:40):
Yes, thy will be done, not my will.
That's a hard lesson.
Exactly.
The amount of times that?
Cathy (35:51):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
We can do all the things.
It's something larger than us.
It's an energetic connectionthat is larger than us.
Have you ever had it
Rachel (36:06):
where you really, really think that you want something,
and then it doesn't happen, andat first you're, like, really
disappointed.
You're like, oh, thismanifesting doesn't work.
I'll just give up.
Oh, I'm not spiritual.
It doesn't exist.
Yeah.
And then literally, like, a fewdays later, or...
Something else will come andyou're like, Oh my God, that's
so much better than I could haveever imagined.
(36:28):
Yes.
Wow, because this happened to meactually with funnily enough,
again, just going back to a job.
It happened to me.
Like I went for this interview.
I thought I'd nailed it.
I was like in this place.
I was really vibing with thisgirl.
We were like having the besttime.
Best interview.
Like it wasn't even aninterview.
In fact, she was really intowellbeing and we were talking
about all this stuff as well.
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And I was like, this girl justgets me.
This is amazing.
I love this place.
I love this building.
I love this.
This is the best, this isopportunity.
Like it can't not happen.
Like I've seen this, this ishappening.
And then a few days later, shecalls me up and she's like, I'm
actually leaving the company andwe need to re interview with the
guy that's taking over.
I'm like, Oh my gosh, what?
(37:10):
And I was like, oh, well, that'sfine.
She loved me.
So they're bound to love me.
My ego stepped in.
I'm like, don't worry.
I've nailed it.
Like, it's all good.
I've lost the universe.
Like, this is manifested.
Cool.
It's happening.
Definitely.
I get there.
This guy literally hates me.
Oh.
What?
(37:30):
I'm like you can't even makethis up.
And I was so disappointed.
I, I cried.
I was like, I manifested that.
I've worked so hard.
I'd like, you know, I'd saw, Isaw myself there.
I'd visualized it.
I had the feeling.
I had everything.
I've taken the steps.
I've taken the action.
Oh my goodness, like this stuffdoesn't work anymore.
(37:50):
Oh, that's it.
Now what am I gonna do?
I don't know.
My faith, like, oh my god,everything I've ever believed in
is rubbish.
And I sat there for a few daysand I was like.
And then I had the voice going,Rach, remember yet God has a
plan much grander than your own.
(38:11):
And at the time I was using anintention, an affirmation,
actually, I'll tell you what itis.
I wrote this down earlier.
It goes, what is meant for you?
No, what is it?
It's yeah.
What it's meant for me will findme exactly where I am and the
path that I'm on is aligning mewith everything that I need.
(38:32):
All as well.
Yeah.
So I stopped being disappointed.
I got quiet.
I went with d and I kid you notthat afternoon, I received a
phone call and they said, we'veseen your resume, we've got this
job.
You will absolutely alignperfectly.
Come and see us.
I kid you not amazing.
(38:54):
I went there and that's where Iwork now.
And my boss is a dream.
I absolutely love what I do.
And he was just amazing in withthe interviews.
Like he interviewed me afterhours because I was like, Oh my
God, I'm still at this otherjob.
I can't sneak around.
I'm no good at lying.
And he was like, that'sabsolutely fine.
And honestly, after that, I waslike.
(39:16):
Wow.
My commute is easier.
It's closer.
It was more pay.
It was everything.
And I was like,
Cathy (39:23):
See, you've had to get through that other thing.
Yeah.
I had to get through that otherthing.
Get that energy out of there.
Rachel (39:31):
Absolutely.
I had to, and I had to deal withthat disappointment and that
letdown and that, and my ego waslike, ha ha ha.
I had to move my ego out the wayI had to get quiet and I had to
trust and go, okay, what ismeant for me?
will come to me.
And then that was it.
(39:52):
Like, it did.
So you have to believe even whenyou think, well, it's not
working and
Cathy (39:57):
be patient.
And remember this right now, myfriend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, no, be speaking this toyourself as well.
Note to self.
Rachel (40:07):
Note to self.
Cathy (40:08):
Yeah.
So these steps that you have,you have be open, clear, feel
it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Trust.
What else?
Yep.
The surrender.
Rachel (40:18):
Surrender.
Yeah.
And remember that we can'tcontrol everything and just
accept that because otherwiseit's called manic manifesting.
If we start forcing stuff allover the place.
Yeah.
Tell me about that.
Manic manifesting.
Well, that was just, thatexample that I gave you was me
manic manifesting, I guess.
(40:38):
Oh, yeah.
It was just that whole, thatcrazy phase.
I wasn't quiet.
I wasn't listening.
I thought I knew best, but Ididn't.
Cathy (40:46):
I feel like this, you see this, or this happens in
relationships at times as well.
You know, like we want so muchto be in a relationship, or we
want to be sometimes.
The trauma bonding will takeover, or the, you know, the
things will happen
Rachel (41:03):
that...
Oh, yeah, I call it fantasizingand idealizing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's ideal, I think, so I'llfantasize about this, and then I
miss all of the red flags.
Yeah.
And then, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
Demonic manifesting inrelationships, 100 percent
resonate with that.
Cathy (41:22):
So do you have any tips on how to develop a
manifestation practice?
Yes.
Or the
Rachel (41:30):
other thing that I was going to touch on in that list
you just made there was onemajor thing that we haven't
spoken about yet is be grateful.
So we need to act like italready exists, get excited and
be grateful as if it's alreadygiven.
(41:52):
And if we love affirmations, Ihave another one.
And essentially, I know I lovethem, they're the best.
Essentially, this one is.
I believe I receive gratefullyand graciously.
Amen.
So I'm, I believe that I'm goingto receive it and I'm already
grateful.
(42:13):
So having absolute gratitude,I'm not just talking about, oh
yeah, thanks.
To the point of tears in myeyes, pure joy, gratefulness,
Cathy (42:23):
feeling it as much as you are saying,
Rachel (42:27):
it's the same feeling, feeling the emotion that you are
so overwhelmingly grateful andact like it already exists.
Yeah.
You know what?
I need to take that tip with therelationship thing, don't I?
You know what?
I know.
Act like my husband alreadyexists.
Cathy (42:45):
That's so hard to like it already exists.
It's so hard because what ifyou're trying to like manifest.
More money in your life, right?
You can't just live like youalready have all that money,
because...
Rachel (42:58):
Ah, well, interestingly you say that.
But you can be grateful for whatyou already have.
And you can be grateful forabundance.
And you can kind of start livinglike it exists.
I mean, I don't know about you,but I've actually been reading
loads about money lately.
And I've been doing a lot ofwork around that because again,
it just comes from that lackmentality, the self esteem
(43:20):
stuff.
And I read a few books recently,as you know, Oh, and actually
some Bob Proctor again,affirmation.
One of the things that I say ismoney comes to me freely.
From expected and unexpectedsources.
Me too.
Cathy (43:38):
That's what I'm going to say a lot.
Funnily
Rachel (43:41):
enough, right, this is a real story.
Last, was it last year?
I was actually teaching thisyoung lad.
This, I had a rookie come andwork with me and I was training
him up.
And he started showing interestin self development and all of
this stuff.
We were talking about TonyRobbins and blah, blah.
And then we got talking aboutmoney and mindset and I was
like, Here, I'll give you anaffirmation and I'll do it with
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you.
And for 21 days straight, we aregoing to say this in the office,
right?
Our boss wasn't around.
I was supposed to be traininghim doing other stuff, but I'm
like, this is really important.
After our morning meeting, we'regoing to say these affirmations.
I started doing it and I waslike, okay, I know I talk the
talk, but okay, I can, this,something's happening.
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I could feel a shift and lo andbehold, both of us after 21
days, he got a check.
Something happened.
I do.
I think he was due some likeinheritance or something.
I don't know whether it's likean uncle passed away.
He got like 55, 000 pounds.
He's a 19 year old boy.
Oh my gosh.
(44:45):
I know.
It just came to him from anunexpected source.
He wasn't expecting that.
Then really weirdly I went to myparents for the weekend and
funny enough, and I was textingthat lad on the way to my
parents.
I was texting him.
We were out of work and we wouldtalk about something else.
And I was like, don't forget tosee your affirmation.
(45:05):
So I'm not there.
And he was like, yeah, make sureyou do as well.
And I was like, yeah, I'm on it,blah, blah.
And I was just kind of givinghim a pep talk.
I didn't really take much noticeof myself.
I got to my parents and my momwas like, Oh, you've got a
letter here in a brown envelope.
And I'm like, Oh, like whatstill goes to my mom's house?
Like, Oh, this is going to be amassive check or like a bill.
(45:28):
Like, Oh, what do I owe?
I've got a fine.
Oh my God.
I start thinking like, then Iwas like, before I opened it, I
went, no, this is going to be acheck to me.
And I honestly, I opened it andit wasn't the biggest amount in
the world, but it was like over800 pounds.
That I was completely notexpecting.
And I was like,
Cathy (45:52):
that's huge.
It's funny that you say thatbecause I was saying this
affirmation, something verysimilar to it, like I just add
on every day.
So money comes to me in moneycomes to me every day and
expected in unexpected ways orsomething like that.
Right.
Similar thing.
I had bought a, I had purchaseda, like a fundraising coupon
(46:13):
book from one of my friends for.
Her child's football fundraiserand a 25, like not a big amount.
I get to the football game onFriday night and she's like, and
it had been 25.
Right.
I knew that, gave her a checkearlier in the day for it, got
there that night.
And she's like, Oh, here's 5back.
(46:33):
They're selling them for 20 nowinstead of 25.
And I was like, boom, wasn'texpecting that.
I know it's only 5, but moneyjust came back to me.
Like I've been using it, like,yeah, it's those little things,
it's like the little, we were atthe store the other day, even in
my daughter pulled out of the,you know, the little change
thing where if you pay in cash,then like you get your change
(46:53):
back.
She pulled out a penny while shetried to put it back in, it spit
it back out at her.
But it was a, you know, onecent.
That's nothing.
But I'm like, here it is.
That's the universe giving youabundance, giving you money in
just a little way.
Rachel (47:06):
This is it.
And so it's about being gratefulagain for what we already have.
And okay, like we haven't gotthe million dollars.
But we're grateful for the 5 youjust got back.
Cathy (47:23):
Exactly.
Yeah.
Rachel (47:26):
And it's about being in the energy, the vibration of
receiving, and that kind of,that pure joy and gratitude and
everything that's attached tothat.
That's when the juicy stuffhappens.
Cathy (47:41):
That's beautiful.
Yeah, I love that.
It's so true.
So true.
Okay, well I have to tell thestory then about the keyboard
that I just told you becauseYes.
We need to hear that.
It's such a good one.
So I, a few weeks ago was typingat my computer and had the
thought, like it merely passedthrough my head.
(48:03):
I really should get or need toget a Bluetooth keyboard or
wireless keyboard so I can justmove my keyboard down to my lap,
move it down lower.
It's not as high as my monitoris.
And not even two days later, myfriend messages me and said,
Hey, I have an extra Bluetoothkeyboard because my son doesn't
need it for school this year.
They come with their iPads.
So do you have any use for aBluetooth keyboard?
(48:24):
I know that's a weird request,but I was like, yes, the thought
just went through my head, I doneed one.
It might not have even been twodays.
It might've been the next day oreven later that day.
And she's like, great, I'll getit to you tomorrow.
And the keyboard, it's exactlywhat I wanted.
And she.
Did all the research for me andtook all the work out of it.
And I just got to receive thebenefits and the mere thought
(48:47):
had just gone through my head.
I had never thought that thoughtbefore, but for whatever reason,
I thought, wow, I should reallyget a wireless keyboard, not
just a wireless mouse, but awireless keyboard.
And then one appeared.
So it's kind of a beautifulthing.
Rachel (49:02):
It is a beautiful thing.
And what's amazing is when thestuff happens quickly, because
like we did talk about patience,we've talked about sometimes
it's about like justsurrendering, let go, wait,
divine timing.
Sometimes it's quick and it'sthose little wins that we go, Oh
my God, I only asked for thatlike two days ago.
Or you didn't even likepurposely set that you just
(49:23):
thought it because thoughtsbecome things.
That's all manifesting is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's true.
The thought is there.
Cathy (49:33):
It's true.
So negative or positive thoughtsbecome things.
Yeah.
So if we're thinking negativelyabout ourselves or about others,
it happens.
It can
Rachel (49:43):
happen.
And that, again, that goes backto, and ties in with the
relationship situation is Ihaven't been able to thus far
manifest man is because mythoughts are not aligned.
With that, my thoughts have notalways been that positive about
myself, for many other reasons.
I'm sure we'll cover thatanother day.
(50:05):
Yeah, But essentially that'swhat it boils down to is yeah,
thoughts become things andmanifesting has to start with
the thought.
Anything that ever exists nowwas once a thought.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yeah.
It's kind of dangerous thatthoughts become things, right?
Right.
(50:25):
Right.
It's like, oh, what am Ithinking?
Right.
We might not have to think
Cathy (50:30):
stuff all the time.
Keep your clean, keep your mind.
Yeah.
What did your mom say?
She's a white witch.
White witch.
Yes.
Keep your mind clean and whiteand like just the positive
things that you want.
Rachel (50:42):
Yeah.
Good vibes
Cathy (50:43):
only.
Exactly.
Okay.
So if someone wants to developor to start a practice of
manifesting, what's a good wayto go about
Rachel (50:51):
doing that?
Get quiet.
Just be still.
Even just three minutes in themorning to begin with.
I can't tell you enough, likehow important that is.
It's because we can't createanything like we can't be open
to those creative possibilitiesif we're just chaotic.
(51:13):
And we're running around frompillar to post, from job to day
job, to this and that, and thekids, and the school run, and
the homework, and then thehusband, and then the da da da.
We just need to get quiet.
So if you want to develop apractice of manifestation, like
to get manifesting, go within.
It's that simple.
(51:33):
And I think it's...
Cathy (51:34):
Easiest to do that, if you can tie it to something
else, you know, I talk abouthabits and if you can tie that
habit of stillness to anotheractivity that you're already
doing.
So maybe it's at the end of yourworkout when you're stretching
and you take just a little bitof time to lie down, sit down,
whatever it may be.
But if you're.
Yeah, I mean, stretching is notalways a habit that people have
(51:56):
when they're done working out.
So here I'm encouraging you toalso stretch, but that would be
a time that you could also bestill enough or following that.
Maybe it's right.
Like you said, right.
When you get up in the morning,maybe it's just waking three
minutes earlier than younormally do so that you have
three minutes of stillness.
Rachel (52:15):
Yeah.
And if you're worried aboutthat, just set the alarm five
minutes earlier and then, youknow, you've got an extra two if
you need.
I did it this morning.
I, you know, I thought I need todo that before I go to work.
I didn't miss a train because Imade sure I got my ass up.
But I went to the bathroom.
I did what I need to do.
And then I sat there on mymeditation cushion just three
(52:37):
minutes because I knew.
Okay I need to rush for thetrain.
There's like strikes and stuffgoing on here in London.
It's an absolute drama to getanywhere, but I know I needed to
do that.
And that set me up perfectlybecause everyone else on that
train was stressed.
They were shouting, swearing,everything else.
And I was just like, Hmm,today's going to be a good day.
(53:00):
And people will often say to melike, wow, how are you so calm?
Would you know why?
It's because I set my alarmfive, 10 minutes earlier, I sat
on the cushion and just gotstill.
It's funny, actually, lastnight, because I normally, I try
and do a little bit in themorning, just a quick one in the
morning because I like my sleepbut before I go to bed at night,
(53:21):
I usually try and do about 20minutes as a routine, like
sometimes if I've got time, thenthey'll be longer, and the
longer ones are like a treat,but as a ritual, it's like 20
minutes before bed, and lastnight, I ended up on the phone,
and I was having a chat withsomeone, and then I was like,
ugh, I can't be bothered tomeditate now.
I'm just going to turn the lightoff and go to sleep while I'm
(53:41):
here, cozy, and just put thephone down.
And I laid there for like anhour tossing and I was like, Oh,
I'm just going to have to get upand get on the cushion because I
haven't done it.
And my body was telling me like,no, you need to just have that
moment before.
And yeah.
Cathy (54:04):
I had to do that.
What does that look like?
And not just not necessarilymeditating, but if you're waking
up and you're setting theintention of visualizing or
manifesting, it is, what doesthat include?
Does it include visualization?
Does it include imagining orknowing the sentence, all the
other senses that come intoplay?
What does that include?
(54:27):
For me now,
Rachel (54:28):
like coupled with like my impatience and stuff like
that, I've really had to work onthat.
And so I tend to just let go.
I'm not.
Specifically calling in anythingright now, so I will just
personally, I just get still andI will say that what is meant
for me will find me exactlywhere I am and the path that I
(54:50):
am on is aligning me witheverything that I need all as
well because for me I'm just ina place where I'm very happy.
I'm content.
I don't feel like anything'smissing.
I don't feel there's anythingparticularly majorly coming my
way right now.
I'm just in the path of, I amactually truly grateful for how
things are in my life.
And that's just for mepersonally.
(55:12):
I would say that if someone wastrying to call something in,
then take that time and maybejust sit and, like you just
said, add the senses, add thefeeling and the visualization.
I always, I say visualization,don't close my eyes there.
Because for me, it's like...
The third eye visualize it therein your mind's eye.
(55:33):
Yeah.
And hopefully the audience,people that are listening to
this will understand what wemean by that.
Cathy (55:40):
Yeah.
Oh, they
Rachel (55:41):
will.
Yeah.
I'm sure that the people thatare listening are already
aligned with this message, butyeah.
Is it, I think, so if there'ssomething particularly that you
want to manifest, it's, yeah,getting that visual and
imagining yourself, imagining itcoming towards you.
(56:02):
If it's a house, for example,imagine yourself in that place,
you know, what are your things?
Where do you want them?
What does it look like?
I don't know.
What color are the walls?
All of those
Cathy (56:15):
things.
I think the thing is even if itdoesn't make sense to you, it's
okay.
You know, even if you haveimages or hear things or see
words or whatever it may be,that may not make any sense.
That's and allow them to just bethere.
That's beautiful.
And you need to be able to dothat.
(56:36):
Yep.
Rachel (56:37):
Again, being open to the creative possibilities.
Yeah.
Being curious.
Right.
What you said at the beginningof this.
Cathy (56:44):
Yeah.
The other thing is, is there anywrong way to go about
manifesting?
Don't suppose
Rachel (56:53):
there is.
I'm just thinking that.
that's a really thoughtprovoking question.
That's, yeah, I don't thinkthere's a right or wrong.
I think it's really personal.
It's a journey.
Mm hmm.
If you follow the steps, like Isay, it's like ask, let it go,
(57:15):
wait, be grateful.
Mm hmm.
Boom.
That's
Cathy (57:19):
it.
Gratitude is such a huge part ofit.
Huge, huge part of it.
Rachel (57:24):
Yeah.
I done a whole episode on mypodcast about gratitude and I
will do more because it's ahuge, huge part.
Count your blessings.
Cathy (57:36):
Perfect.
I will link to that.
Exactly.
I will link to that episode.
I think I've got probably acouple.
Gratitude one, maybe two.
I
Rachel (57:43):
scanned, scanned through it and had a little look.
Cathy (57:46):
Yeah.
I think I've got some.
You've got loads.
I'll find
Rachel (57:49):
them.
I'll link to them.
You've got
Cathy (57:50):
loads of episodes.
Wow.
Okay.
Is there anything else we needto talk about with manifesting
today?
Um,
Rachel (57:57):
I mean, if people really still need some advice or tips,
then YouTube's great.
Gabby Bernstein is great.
Cathy (58:09):
And there's so many, you know, like on Insight Timer,
there are so many manifestation.
So the Insight Timer app is afree app or you can pay for it.
And it's got so many differentmeditations and manifestation.
Activations and all sorts ofthings that you can explore on
that app as well.
That's a great place to start.
Rachel (58:30):
That's a cool place to start.
And yeah, YouTube literally justtype in manifestation or
manifesting meditation, forexample.
But one great book is theuniverse has got your back by
Gabby great place to start.
And also her, one of her otherbooks super attractor.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's
Cathy (58:49):
a really, really great book.
I've heard of it.
It's been on my list.
Oh,
Rachel (58:52):
yeah.
That's a great book.
And because as well, that reallycovers where we talked about
manic manifesting and also thatreally covers a huge part of
being able to let go andremembering you're not in
control because she was actuallytrying to manifest a child and
she was having IVF and she waslike asking the universe for
signs and she wouldn't see thesigns.
(59:13):
And we have to remember that nosign is a sign.
Because we need to accept, like,okay, I haven't seen, like, ten
chickens or whatever my neighborhas bought.
Okay we need to accept that isthe answer.
The unanswered question.
Yeah, still the answer.
But yeah, that's a great bookbecause then it covers a lot
(59:36):
about...
Asking for signs and theneventually seeing them and then
accepted divine timing andbecause eventually she did have
a baby So it's a fascinatingstory But yeah, definitely as
well Wayne Dyer.
Dr.
Wayne Dyer is a great one Verymuch.
So again linking theChristianity and God part of it
(01:00:01):
and the I am affirmations Soyeah, there's there's a lot of
resource out there Just type inmanifesting and we're good to
go.
Well, you have given
Cathy (01:00:12):
us a whole lot of good tips and resources as well.
So thank you.
And I will link to your podcast,which is Life Re Framed.
Um, right?
Yep, absolutely.
I will link to your contactinformation, but where can we
find you on?
Um, I hang out
Rachel (01:00:30):
mostly on Instagram.
Yep.
And, uh, Instagram is my vibe.
It's life underscore reframed77.
Nice.
Like, when I read this thingjust the other day that was, and
we should know this anyway, butit's nice to have a reminder.
When you keep seeing things,synchronicity.
(01:00:50):
That is your sign from theuniverse from God from whoever
you're on the right path rightnow This is exactly like the nod
from the universe to go.
Yeah, you've got this Keep doingwhat you're doing.
But yeah, 77 just kept showingup for me.
I did look it up I think againit has to do with Manifesting
and it has to do withsynchronicity and it was just
(01:01:14):
like, of course, like, yeah,that just fits right now.
Cathy (01:01:17):
I have two questions before we wrap up today.
I have two questions.
So first tell us how everythingthat we've talked about today,
how all the manifesting stuffcultivates greater health,
harmony, and happiness in yourlife.
And you can either separate eachof those qualities out health,
harmony, and happiness, or youcan lump them together as this
(01:01:38):
idealistic thing that we are.
Seeking.
Okay, that's a great question.
So it cultivates health.
Yep, tell us how manifesting, orhow what we've talked about
today, cultivates greaterhealth, harmony, and happiness
(01:01:59):
in your life.
Well,
Rachel (01:02:01):
essentially, it can manifest health and be grateful
for the health we already have.
So, it definitely does that, andjust recently in the last few
months, I've actually, being onthat journey myself and gone
back to the gym, been eatinghealthily.
But again, I had to kind ofmanifest that and I had to
really think about it.
(01:02:21):
And yeah, I would do some workon the resistance around that as
well, but like visualize myselfin the gym and visualize myself
eating healthily, preparingmeals, dah, dah, dah, dah.
So I would say that, yeah, youcan definitely use manifesting
to cultivate health in terms ofharmony, getting still
listening.
(01:02:43):
Doing all the things we justspoke about will bring greater
harmony within your life and mylife personally I 100 percent
and like so harmonized and sobalanced because of I believe in
this stuff right and because Ipractice it regularly,
happiness, of course like whynot like it's It brings great,
(01:03:08):
great happiness when even justthe keyboard arriving on the
doorstep of your friend.
How happy were you?
Cause it's like, wow.
And the same with me when I thenlanded the better job and it's,
wow.
And that wow, and that kind ofin awe of the universe and kind
(01:03:29):
of just that, wow, it's mindblowing.
And that for me is purehappiness.
Cathy (01:03:38):
They all work together.
Right?
They all work together.
They all work together.
Um, and the last question iswhat's one thing you're doing
right now to invite moreintention into your life?
Oh,
Rachel (01:03:56):
well, we just had the new moon and I have to kind of
focus on letting go of some oldbeliefs and surrendering that
kind of surrender to theuniverse and to strengthen my
relationship with myself.
And look at self esteem andworthiness and those things.
(01:04:20):
And that has meant that I've hadto let go of some old patterns
and some old beliefs becausethey just, they don't suit me
anymore, right?
So I'm letting that shit go.
Just
Cathy (01:04:29):
the fact that you took the time to set intentions with
the new moon.
Yes.
Is the way you're beingintentional.
I mean, that's a beautifulrepresentation of how to be more
intentional and then to begin towork towards those intentions
for sure.
Rachel (01:04:45):
And I have them sat right next to me here with my
little green adventuringcrystal.
Cathy (01:04:51):
I love it.
And I have a
Rachel (01:04:52):
rose quartz over there with my telling myself I've
always believed in true love andit will find me when I'm
Cathy (01:04:59):
ready.
I love it.
I love it.
I have all my crystals in acircle here on my desk in a
little kind of circle of life,wheel of life type circle here.
That's beautiful.
And I love it.
With an inspire stone in themiddle of them.
So this to remind me, inspire.
(01:05:19):
Oh, wow.
Love that.
Okay, Rachel, thank you so muchfor taking the time today and
for being here and for sharingyour insights and wisdom on
manifesting.
Rachel (01:05:29):
It's been amazing.
Thank you for inviting me onyour show, Kathy.
I'm so proud to be here and justabsolutely grateful, let's say,
gratitude, attitude ofgratitude.
Cathy (01:05:42):
Good.
Well, absolutely.
I'm glad to have you.
Such a fun episode with Rachel.
I hope that you were able totake something away from it.
Her podcast is life reframed,and it's got kind of a pink
cover with a triangle on it andalmost like it looks like a
smiley face underneath thetriangle.
So.
Catch that wherever you catchyour podcasts.
(01:06:05):
And I will also link to it herein the show notes.
So remember that just because.
Sometimes manifestation isassociated with witchy, Venus.
This or dark arts.
It's really just about allowingthe positive flow of energy.
To create abundance, and that'sessentially what prayer is all
(01:06:30):
about, right.
It's asking for blessings.
So however you do that, whetherthat's to the universe, to God,
to Jesus, the holy spirit, to,Spirit in general.
Whatever it is.
It's simply opening yourself upto the potential and the
possibility for positivity toflow in your life.
(01:06:54):
And that's a beautiful way toreframe a topic that might
actually otherwise Leave peoplequestioning its place in this
world.
Until next time...you've beenlistening to health harmony and
happiness with Cathy.
Cheers to cultivating your ownversion of health harmony and
happiness in your life.
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