Healthcare Rap

Healthcare Rap

Healthcare Rap is the leading podcast about consumer-centered care, a.k.a. how the frontiers of digital, retail, and traditional care can work together to make healthcare easier for everyday people. It ranks in the top 5% of all podcasts globally, has been named a Top 20 Healthcare Podcast, and is one of the longest-lasting shows in the industry, with more than 380 episodes and 6 years on the air. Join provocative thinkers Jared Johnson and Zain Ismail as they profile disruptors and trends that are impacting the consumer experience of healthcare. The podcast reached new heights in 2024: 380+ episodes 250k downloads 2024 Top Healthcare Podcasts (Bright Inventions) #2 on 30 Best Healthcare Innovation Podcasts (Feedspot) 16 Healthcare Podcasts You Shouldn’t Miss (b2Cast) Multiple episodes on Healthcare Now Radio's Top 10 Episodes of the Year Topics for 2025: Connected fitness GLP-1's / weight loss Food as medicine / nutrition Sleep management Mental and behavioral health Preventive health and wellness Nontraditional care models - direct primary care, retail care, health at home, digital health, functional health, concierge medicine, etc. How those nontraditional care models can work together with traditional health systems Consumer-facing digital health All other consumer-facing aspects of healthcare Topics that we don't cover: Clinical leadership Cybersecurity Health information management Interoperability Revenue cycle

Episodes

September 2, 2025 28 mins

Maz Brumand, VP of Product at Oura, gives us a first-hand look at how Oura’s Glucose and Meals features work, how they change the game when viewed with other personal health data, and whether wearables are the new digital front door. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the start of Season 12, and the launch of our free new online community. How will these two things help bridge the gap between sick care and well ...

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(Originally aired in February 2022) Re-live our 200th episode with our most provocative thinking yet! Jared and Zain welcome friends Jill McCormick (TechSpring/Baystate Health), Victor Reiss (UNC Health), and Teri Sun (White Rhino) for an exclusive preview of the Consumer-First Health Group’s upcoming Manifesto, a letter to the healthcare industry outlining what needs to change and how to realistically get it done. In between...

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Karthik Ganesh, CEO of OnMed, talks about how their “Clinic in a Box” is addressing care gaps in underserved areas, why they pivoted to a B2B play, and how consumers and patients seem to have split personalities. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the launch of Town Square Health. When will we learn more details about this startup, and can their model deliver on providing consumer-driven care? 

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(Originally aired in December 2022) Ben Dillon guides us through Geonetric’s Consumer Health Survey and shares what the data says about consumers' preferences for engaging with providers. You’ll want to hear Ben’s takeaways from the research, what he would do as a marketing leader, and the need for consumer-centered strategy to become more mainstream. 

The majority of these insights are just as relevant today...

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Tanay Tandon, CEO of Commure, shares the value of giving providers back time in their day, the difference between augmenting providers and automating care, and how to simplify aspects of the patient experience that seem invisible. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about a new research paper on the Apple Watch. How far away are we from fitness devices actually detecting diseases at scale, and could the Apple Watch actually ...

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(Originally aired in November 2022) Justin Wartell, Managing Principal at Monigle, walks through his agency's Humanizing Brand Experience report. Their extensive research identifies personas in ways that healthcare leaders can use to design consumer-first experiences. 

These personas are just as relevant today, so it’s worth another listen!

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You heard it here: Dr. Tim Church, Chief Medical Director at Wondr Health, believes that the popularity of GLP-1's will surge much higher once pill offerings are approved in the coming months. He also shares the current state of preventive health, why it’s easy for everyday people to feel confused about new weight loss options, and what he recommends to do when you feel like your personal health is stuck. 

All that, plus...

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(Originally aired in August 2022) Rob Klein shares key findings from his firm’s omnibus research report that illustrate how consumers are thinking differently about healthcare and how it impacts everything from attention spans to brand recall. 

These consumer insights continue to shape service design today, so anyone who is championing consumer experience will want to pay attention to what this research tells us about ch...

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Michael Dalton, Founder and CEO of Ovatient, shares how we should be talking about digital front doors in 2025, how to move from a patient portal to a patient journey, and the tech that’s needed to connect beyond episodes of care. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the Whoop’s warning letter from the FDA. What are both sides claiming about Whoop’s Blood Pressure Insights feature, and what could be th...

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(Originally aired in August 2023) Dr. Justin Norden, now CEO of Qualified Health was an adjunct professor at Stanford Medicine and a partner at GSR Ventures. 

He shares highlights from the first-ever collaborate state of healthcare generative AI report. 

We thought it would be interesting now that Justin returned as a guest earlier this week (#440) and generative AI has progressed so quickly, so let us know what you think...

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In the next 12-24 months, most patient journeys will start with an AI-powered question about their health information, says Dr. Justin Norden, CEO of Qualified Health. He also shares highlights from the company’s launch, where he is seeing generative AI deliver real ROI right now, and how leaders should be thinking about governance and safety, especially as policy is constantly changing. 

All that, plus the Flava of the ...

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(Originally aired in October 2023) Dr. Creagh Milford was Senior Vice President of Retail Health at CVS Health and is now President of Oak Street Health, the CVS subsidiary. His vision for the role of retail health clinics still serves as a true north for consumer-driven collaboration and reducing fragmentation of care. 

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Sina Arham, Co-Founder of Fridays Health, describes the success stories that come when we humanize weight management. He shares how living with obesity in our country feels like living as a second-class citizen, how metabolic health is about more than just prescriptions, and why Fridays blends coaching, community, and habit design in their approach. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Samsung acquiring Xealth. Will the...

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(Originally airing in January and May 2023) This double episode is a compilation of two of the first interviews with Sam Seering, offering exclusive looks at Epic Cheers shortly after it was first announced.

We can all probably use a refresher of where Cheers fits in enabling consumer experiences!

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Neel Bhargava, Partner at NB Group, shares why his firm is investing in fitness and consumer wellness and why their targets also include OnePeak Medical, hospice, and direct primary care. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Woebot Health pivoting away from its direct-to-consumer mental health app. Why is Jared focusing on different lessons from the app’s shutdown, and how can we all pivot to build something bette...

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(Originally airing in march 2022) Dr. Bon Ku discusses providing spaces for healthcare teams to exercise their creative muscles. Dr. Bon is the co-author of Health Design Thinking, and we apply his thinking to scaling human-centered innovations in healthcare design.

These insights serve as the foundation for consumer-centered healthcare design and marketing, so a refresher can benefit everyone! 

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Kurt Knight, CEO of Foodsmart, helps us understand food-as-medicine beyond the buzzwords, what "eating well made simple" actually looks like, and where he sees GLP-1’s fitting into the nutrition conversation. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Walmart and Soda Health’s new personalized nutritional guidance program. What leads us to believe that the program can gain traction, and what can healthcare leaders...

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(Originally airing in August 2023) Executive recruiter David Clark shares keys for approaching staffing, tips for job seekers, and traits that make a good healthcare executive in today’s up-and-down environment.

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In one of the most candid conversations ever on the show, Aaron Watkins and Chris Pace join Jared to discuss careers and leadership at the intersection of healthcare, marketing and technology. As the three of them recently found themselves in career transitions at the same time, they don't hold back as they talk stages of grief, how to evaluate new opportunities, encouraging and discouraging aspects of career transitions, the uniqu...

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(Originally airing in August 2023) Executive recruiter Kelly Gill from August 2023 shares the high stakes of healthcare organizations hiring for new positions as they strive to become more consumer-oriented, and how it’s more important than ever to be equally optimistic and realistic about job descriptions, qualifications, and contributions. 

As this week’s main episode with Aaron Watkins and Chris Pace dives ...

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