December 5, 2025 • 25 mins
What does real public safety look like when a department hires for character, invests in officer wellness, and stays close to its community? Kalispell Police Chief Jordan Venezio joins host David Wigginton for a candid, story-driven look at leadership, purpose, and building trust in a fast-growing Flathead Valley. From his unconventional start in business and real estate to patrol, narcotics, and school resource officer work, Jordan’s path has given him a 360-degree view of service. His time at the FBI National Academy honed his focus on communication, wellness, and strategic decision-making—skills he now uses to guide a department rooted in collaboration and care.
Jordan shares how a local safety levy helped Kalispell PD cut response times nearly in half, strengthen visibility, and deepen relationships with residents and businesses. He talks about prioritizing youth safety, expanding school resource programs, and building partnerships like Special Olympics that foster community trust. From working alongside regional agencies to finding balance outdoors, his approach reveals what it takes to lead a healthy, human-centered police department in today’s Montana.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
Welcome to the Heart of the Flathead, where we sit
down with the change makers, theunstung heroes, and everyday
folks who give this place itspulse.
If you live here, love here, orjust want to know what makes
Callispo and the Valley tick,you're in the right place.
And now here's your host, DaveWigginton.
SPEAKER_00 (00:21):
Welcome everybody to another episode of Heart of the
Flathead.
Excited to have our guest heretoday.
We've got police chief for theCallisville Police Department,
Jordan Venestio.
I'm grateful to have him heretoday.
Jordan, thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER_02 (00:33):
Hey, thank you, David.
Glad to be here.
SPEAKER_00 (00:35):
Awesome.
So, you know, obviously thepolice department plays a huge
role in any community and in ourcommunity.
And I think it's one of thosethings that maybe is not fully
appreciated.
You hear about a lot of thepolice in the news, usually from
a negative perspective, butthere's positive press as well.
And I think we're superfortunate in our community to
have such a great policedepartment, have a great police
chief and you, Jordan.
(00:56):
But we want to take this timetoday, maybe to get to know you
a little bit and know a littlebit about what you do, how you
got to where you were, and thenwe can talk a little bit more
about what the police departmentdoes for the community, all the
great progress you guys havemade in in the last several
years.
But uh let's start by maybe justget to know a little bit more
about your background, whereyou're from, kind of your life
experience, how you got to uhwhere you are today, and maybe
(01:16):
what you've learned along theway.
SPEAKER_02 (01:18):
Yeah, that sounds great.
So my name is Jordan Venezio.
I'm the police chief for thecity of Calspell.
And I grew up in Montana.
Most of my life, my childhood atleast, I grew up in Troy,
Montana.
So over a little teeny town onthe Idaho border outside of
Libby there.
In high school, my family movedover to Columbia Falls, and
(01:38):
that's where I graduated highschool.
And, you know, at that point, Iwasn't, I wasn't certain what I
wanted to do, you know, as I asI grew up.
I ended up going to Flat ValleyCommunity College here in
Callspell and got an associate'sdegree in business and my real
estate license.
So that was my my plan uh rightafter high school.
(01:58):
And then the real estate marketcrashed in 2008, and it was one
of those things where I had tolook for something, and I had a
friend in law enforcement at KPDwho encouraged me to apply.
So at 20 years old, I threw inmy application at KPD, hadn't
really given it much thought,but it immediately I recognized
(02:19):
this as the profession that Iwas I was meant to do.
So I was fortunate enough to gethired and began my career with
the Calspow Police Department in2009.
SPEAKER_00 (02:28):
So who was the police chief that hired you?
SPEAKER_02 (02:30):
Roger Nassett.
And how many years did you serveunder him?
I would say my first seven yearswere under Roger Nassett.
And then he retired and ChiefDoug Overman took over.
Right.
And I believe I believe ChiefOverman, he was the chief for
five or six years.
SPEAKER_00 (02:47):
Got it.
And then you you succeeded ChiefOverman, then is that right?
SPEAKER_02 (02:51):
Yes.
Yes, I did.
SPEAKER_00 (02:52):
Right.
Okay, great.
Now, funny, funny story I thinkwould be good for everybody to
hear is I happened to be in ameeting where you were
presenting and several people inthe audience who knew who you
were, and there was stories thatwere, I guess, that you
confirmed that you you were kindof a skate rat growing up and uh
and had some fun, I'm not sayingagainst the law, but you know,
(03:13):
it was maybe you were so maybegive us a little bit of that
background about you know what'swhat that's about and maybe a
little bit more about yourchildhood in that regard.
SPEAKER_02 (03:23):
Yeah, you know, it's it's one of those things where I
think it had it gave me a goodperspective on moving forward
into a career of law enforcementof just understanding that we're
a lot more alike than we aredifferent.
And you know, as a as a kid, Ididn't have clear direction.
I wasn't I wasn't a criminal atall.
I wasn't a you know delinquent,but you know, definitely had
(03:44):
some fun.
And un until I think untilsomeone finds out what their
true purpose is and what theythey want to do in their life,
you feel the purpose in in yourprofession and you you have the
focus to be successful at thatpoint.
And and that's really what itcame down to me is as a as a
kid, I didn't have the focus andI didn't have purpose or clear
(04:07):
direction of what I wanted formy life.
And so when you're you'rereferring to some of those
interactions with the communitymembers, it was it was all in
good fun, and those are amazingpeople.
But as I look back on it and asI encounter some of my friends'
parents and and teachers, theylook at me and they they say,
Really?
(04:27):
You're the chief of police inCalusville.
And it's uh you know, they'rethey're happy and they're and
they're they're proud, but atthe same point, I don't think
they saw it coming.
SPEAKER_00 (04:36):
Absolutely.
I can relate with that.
That's why I it's kindredspirits in that regard.
Is like I remember growing upand you know, you just our
life's experiences help shape usand uh give us perspective once
we get a little bit older andthat uh our brains are a little
more developed and we can youknow see the world a little bit
more uh accurately.
So I think that that is a good,a great, great thing for just
(04:58):
the people to know is that weall have our way of getting to
where we are and we havedifferent experiences and and
we're I I I love the quote, youknow, we're we're more alike
than we're than we we're not.
And I think that is that thatthat rings true with me
definitely.
So okay, so you were thinkingabout going into business and
real estate.
What uh what what prompted thatwhen you when you graduated high
(05:19):
school?
SPEAKER_02 (05:19):
So my my stepfather was in real estate, and just
that opportunity presenteditself as a path forward.
I can tell you that was the timein my life where I was I was
searching for what I wanted inmy life.
I knew that I wanted to do good,I knew I wanted to be
successful.
So I I was working hard in areasthat I wasn't quite sure if it
(05:41):
was it or not.
And I do still love uh realestate.
I know that's something that Ithink was kind of just
fascinating.
And I I could see myself hadthat that market not changed, I
probably would have stuck withthat.
You know, I I enjoyed it.
But I was also getting marriedand needing to find a job with
(06:02):
income so I could, you know,support.
And so it just I kind of justlanded in law enforcement.
And a lot of people when Iinterview for for new positions,
they talk about how they hadthis lifelong dream of service
and law enforcement.
And if I'm being completelyhonest, I didn't I didn't have
that.
I didn't feel that until I wasalready hired.
(06:23):
But it was pretty it was prettyimmediate that I could feel it,
but it wasn't it wasn't alifelong goal of mine.
SPEAKER_00 (06:30):
That's powerful.
You felt it at that instant.
SPEAKER_02 (06:32):
So how long you've been married?
I have been married for going on16 years.
It'll be 16 years this year.
No, I lied.
It'll be 17 years this nextyear.
unknown (06:41):
Awesome.
SPEAKER_02 (06:42):
Hopefully she's not listening.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:44):
How many uh how many kids do you have?
SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
I have two kids.
I have a fifth grade daughterand a fourth grade son.
So my daughter will be 11 nextmonth, and my son will be 10 in
March.
SPEAKER_00 (06:55):
Kids are a blast.
That's that's that's great.
So okay, so you started offthinking business and real
estate just based on you knowexperience with you know the
adult figures in your life.
That's pretty typical.
You you applied to KPD because afriend tells you to, or or you
have a friend there, and you endup realizing right away pretty,
pretty quickly then that this iswhat your calling was in life
(07:17):
was to was to be in lawenforcement.
Yeah.
And what led you to want to bethe chief of police?
SPEAKER_02 (07:26):
I think that was another thing that just happened
over time.
I didn't have those aspirationsfrom the start.
I did have mentors, RogerNassett, Chief Overman both.
As my career progressed, theythey expressed that they
believed that that is somethingthat I could do if if I wanted
it.
And they would, you know, helpme work towards that with
(07:48):
different experiences andtrainings and things I could do
in my career.
SPEAKER_00 (07:53):
They saw your potential then, basically.
You you must have been a good, agood so you were on patrol and
you did different things uh whenyou were uh an officer, is that
right?
SPEAKER_02 (08:01):
Yeah.
So I started in patrol likeeverybody does, and I worked
probably five straight years ofthat.
After that, I was on themotorcycle traffic division.
So I worked on the motorcyclesfor a couple years.
I got to work a summer on theNorthwest Drug Task Force, and I
got to work as a school resourceofficer for a few years at
Calcewell Middle School.
(08:22):
And after that, I was promotedto patrol sergeant, where I
worked for a few years.
And then they had a new positionof a lieutenant, a patrol
lieutenant that I was fortunateenough to be selected for and
promoted to lieutenant.
And that is really the positionthat prepares you
administratively, is once youget to that lieutenant position.
And yeah, things just keptprogressing.
(08:44):
And as far as the the chiefposition, I was lucky enough to
be selected for the FBI NationalAcademy in Kwanico, Virginia.
And it's a you know pretty longprocess.
It can take years to beselected.
Only about 1% of law enforcementever gets to attend that.
And in April 2023, I was inVirginia for a few months
(09:06):
attending that when ChiefOverman announced his
retirement.
And so I I actually applied anddid my first interviews over
Zoom from Quantico, Virginia tobe the post chief here in Cal.
SPEAKER_00 (09:18):
So what what is what is the purpose of the the uh the
academy or the program inQuantico?
SPEAKER_02 (09:24):
Essentially it's executive leadership for law
enforcement.
So uh courses from publicspeaking to dealing with media,
officer wellness, leadership, awhole multitude of things that
they have experts from all overthe country come in and teach
these courses.
SPEAKER_00 (09:41):
And so only 1% of law enforcement professionals
get selected for that program?
Is that what you said?
Wow.
So we've got the 1% as our ourchief of police here in
Callispo.
That's pretty awesome.
That's that's really awesome.
So that's great.
So what was how was thatexperience?
I mean, do you feel like thatwas was a great experience?
And or what what did you takeaway from that?
SPEAKER_02 (10:02):
It you know, it was it was an amazing experience.
It was a challenge for me in asense of my wife and children
were here and a lot of burdenwas put on my wife's shoulders
for the house and the kids.
And so that was stressful beinggone, more stressful for her
than me.
But it was something that I'mfortunate that I was able to do
it.
(10:22):
I met lifelong friends.
The the networking that I've hadavailable to me as a police
chief.
I mean, essentially every statein the United States, I know a
high-level chief or sheriff allover the country.
And I can give them, you know,we we spend so much time
together that I have their phonenumbers and I can just call them
(10:43):
and ask them for their advice orpolicies or you know, things
that they've gone through thatwe're now going through to see
if they can help us navigate it.
And I think it's reallyinstrumental in a police chief
having the ability to lean in onother people that may have
answers for them.
The National Academy can dothat.
SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
Aaron Powell Does all law enforcement collaborate
like that then throughout thecountry, or is that kind of
unique to the people thatparticipate in in this program
in Quantico?
SPEAKER_02 (11:14):
You know, I think law enforcement is pretty
dependent, unfortunately, on theneed to collaborate.
And I can tell you here in theflathead, collaboration is the
only way that we find success.
You know, Sheriff Haino, myself,Chief Stevens, Chief Kelch, and
Whitefish, we need each otherand we and we know that.
So our relationships are arevery important.
(11:36):
And we have to use each other indifferent ways, whether it's
help on calls or differentcollaboration or large events
that are outside the scope thatwe can handle.
We have to have that.
Large agencies, they may havethe resources they need to
handle most things.
So I don't know that you see thecollaboration as much, but I can
tell you from my opinion,whether you're large or small,
(11:58):
collaboration is the only way totruly be successful in law
enforcement.
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SPEAKER_00 (13:17):
And so how do you how do you define success in law
enforcement?
I think success in lawenforcement is you know twofold.
SPEAKER_02 (13:25):
Is the community uh healthy and safe?
And are your police officershealthy and safe?
You have to, you know, identifyboth those things because that
is something that I'm happy tosee.
We are really focusing on thehealth of law enforcement as we
as this profession progresses.
But I think that was ignored fora long time.
(13:47):
And the negative impacts on thatare not, they don't stop at the
long at the law enforcementofficer.
They they trickle down in thewhole community when you don't
take care of police officers.
And if we have community membersthat feel safe outside their
house, the roads are safe, theythey know that there is
consequence for crime, right?
(14:07):
They believe in the justicesystem.
That to me is the true measureof whether we're doing a good
job.
SPEAKER_00 (14:12):
So as police chief, what what is your role on that
success chain?
SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
Well, we talked a little bit about collaboration
in a sense of law enforcementagencies collaborating, but
community collaboration is huge.
I want them to know me.
I want the community to be ableto reach out, call me, express
concerns, feel that even if theanswer they want is not the
answer they get, they at leastunderstand the challenges or or
(14:38):
why we do certain things.
I think that that's uh veryimportant.
And then my other job is toprepare police officers to do
the best job they can for theircommunity by putting the mission
first to keep the communitysafe.
But at the same time, I wantthem to know that we care about
them and we're going to takecare of them, you know, for the
hard job that they do, because apolice officer's job, especially
(16:13):
today, is tremendouslydifficult.
SPEAKER_00 (16:16):
As you know, I in preparation for our discussion
today, I did a ride along withone of your officers.
And I can just confirm that, youknow, we've got we've got some
great police officers here inCalispel that really want to do
the right thing and besuccessful in the way you
defined success for lawenforcement.
And I think that uh we're we'resuper fortunate, obviously, is a
(16:39):
credit to you and yourpredecessors, but also to the
individual officers who make thesacrifices and take the time to
learn their their their tradeand to implement and execute
that trade.
So I guess this is you know justme saying thank you for that
because I, you know, my my I smyself and my family, we feel at
least feel safe as a result ofthat and think you guys are
(16:59):
doing a great job.
So thank you for for all ofthat.
SPEAKER_02 (17:03):
Yeah, thank you.
I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_00 (17:05):
How I mean, you talked about safety, you talked
about community involvement orcommunity feedback and those
sorts of things.
What are the things does thepolice department do for the
community?
I mean, obviously public safetyis number one, but I feel like
they're involved in a lot ofdifferent ways.
And so you know anything elsethat we haven't touched on yet
in this discussion?
SPEAKER_02 (17:25):
Yeah, I mean, you'll see your police officers
involved heavily in the schooldistricts.
We have a pretty robust SROprogram.
So our elementary schools, highschools, and even the Flat
Valley Community College, wehave a school resource officer
program.
You know, if you're if you'relooking for things, you're gonna
see police officers fixing kids'bike chains, you know, when
they're on patrol.
You're gonna see them talking tokids at parks.
(17:47):
They they don't only focus onthe you know the criminal
component of the job.
We hire people mostly based offof who they are as as people.
And that is something that Iheard Chief Overman say
repeatedly was we can we cantrain police officers, but we're
gonna hire for character andwe're gonna hire good people
first and foremost.
(18:09):
And that is what I fully believeseparates KPD from other law
enforcement is we hiretremendous people.
Not that we're perfect, not thatyou know, sometimes we fall
short of that and there'sconsequences for that.
But by and large, we hire peoplethat care about their community
and are out there working everyday showing that.
Uh, we have volunteer programs.
(18:31):
I would say law enforcement uhspecifically, the largest law
enforcement area that we focuson is Special Olympics.
So athletes with uh varyinglevels of disabilities.
We participate in SpecialOlympics.
We have a Special Olympicscoordinator, we do penguin
plunges, law enforcement torchruns, and we volunteer our time
(18:52):
for that.
And that has built some prettyspecial relationships with that
program in our policedepartment.
SPEAKER_00 (18:58):
That's awesome.
And so youth, obviously, is abig focus.
You missed and mentioned the SROroles.
That's the school resourceofficer at the individual high
schools and at the middleschool.
Do you have school resourceofficers at the elementary
schools?
SPEAKER_02 (19:11):
Not specifically at the elementary schools.
We have our uh middle schoolSRO.
He'll spend some time with them,and then each high school has a
middle school that or anelementary school that they will
go down and you know, readbooks, have lunch with the kids,
just make sure that they knowthem.
SPEAKER_00 (19:26):
Right.
And so I, you know, my I mydaughter was at Calisbow Middle
School.
She is not flathead, but Iremember that uh Officer Allen
was the school resource officerfor her her tenure at Calisbow
Middle School.
My son's there now.
I actually don't know who theschool resource officer is at
this point, but I know thatthey've done a lot of great work
there.
I also, interesting, on when Iwas on patrol with Officer
(19:48):
Ormiston, we first thing we didon day patrol was go by the
elementary school in his patrolzone, which was ranking.
And he just talked about, yeah,we're we're always checking on
the kids.
We want to make sure the kidsare safe.
And and as a parent, that'ssuper reassuring.
And so it's great that we are sofocused on on our youth and our
community and and making surethat they're safe.
SPEAKER_02 (20:09):
I don't think there's anything more important
than the safety of our children.
And if and if I have onepriority as a chief of police,
it it is around our kids andmake sure that everything that
we do centers around that.
There's no more important thingto protect than our children.
They're, in my opinion, been inlaw enforcement for as long as I
have the only true victims inour world are our children.
(20:32):
They're innocent.
They're the only true innocentpeople.
So it's a high, high priorityfor KPD.
SPEAKER_00 (20:37):
So referring to that presentation that I had had the
opportunity to participate in acouple months back, you had
shared some statistics about howthe law enforcement success had
improved over the past severalyears as a result of the public
safety levy that passed a fewyears ago.
And I think some of the thingsthat stood out to me, response
times were down.
(20:58):
So you guys were able to get tosituations quicker as a result
of more staff and moreresources.
What are some of the highlightsfrom, I guess, the the benefits
that have accrued as a result ofthat public safety levy?
SPEAKER_02 (21:10):
Yeah, I would say the two biggest and most visible
benefits are those responsetimes you referred to.
We are getting to calls for helpfaster, significantly faster.
I would say we've already cutthem close to in half from when
the levy first was requested.
And the other thing is proactivepolice work.
We're seeing a big return tothat at KPD.
(21:32):
We had what does that mean?
Proactive police work?
Proactive policing is anythingfrom traffic stops to pedestrian
stops to business checks, justbeing out in the community and
without being called to help, weare we are looking for things to
keep the community safe or evenlooking for things to build
relationships with thecommunity.
(21:53):
So rather than just beingresponsive all the time to
crimes that are happening, weare taking steps to prevent
those crimes.
SPEAKER_00 (22:05):
So great.
Well, you obviously talked a lotabout police work here, but you
know, so as you think about yourlife, you know, we talked about
some of your motivations and youwant to you want to give back to
the community.
What are things that you dooutside of work to help you
recharge and refocus and and beon your A game when you when you
show up at the station?
SPEAKER_02 (22:25):
Anything outdoors in the flathead, that's that's what
I'm about.
So you'll see me rafting on therivers, you'll see me archery
elk hunting, you'll see me withmy my family, my children, and
my wife camping and fishing andjust the the simple things in
life that truly matter.
That's what I like to focus on.
And it's awesome.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (22:42):
It's a have you gotten an elk yet this year?
SPEAKER_02 (22:45):
I have I have not.
I I have a whole bunch ofexcuses why, but I I didn't get
an elk.
unknown (22:50):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (22:51):
I will though.
SPEAKER_02 (22:51):
I have I have time.
SPEAKER_00 (22:53):
Okay, good.
Did you get a chance to go outalready though, or have you not
been out yet?
SPEAKER_02 (22:56):
I I was able to get out a little bit.
I actually this last spring I Iruptured my Achilles tendon, so
I had surgery in in April, andit's it slowed me down a little
bit.
I'm not uh I'm not getting afterit as much as I usually can.
SPEAKER_00 (23:09):
Right.
And you're still young, Bach.
You man, you should berecovering quickly.
We gotta get you get you back upand going.
It gets it's worse than that.
SPEAKER_02 (23:17):
I can I can tell you how I ruptured it if if you want
to really be able to tease.
I was playing pickleball with my74-year-old stepdad.
So that was fun.
Yeah.
Who won?
Who won the game?
He did for sure.
Every game.
Okay.
That's why I was trying so hard.
SPEAKER_00 (23:34):
Right.
Yeah.
Use different muscles and andtendons, I guess, for
pickleball, right?
Yeah.
That's great.
Well, yeah, Jordan, what whatdoes uh a better, stronger
future for our community here inthe flathead look like to you?
SPEAKER_02 (23:49):
I think in our community, we're gonna continue
to focus on partnerships andmaking sure we have the
resources we need in the valley,safer roads, uh, mental health
resources, jail capacity,community involvement with our
police officers.
You know, over time, if we staythat course and we invest in
that, you're gonna see theflathead continue to get safer
and healthier.
SPEAKER_00 (24:09):
We're uh we're gonna move on to our our flathead
five, which are the fivequestions we ask all of our
guests.
And they're just rapid fire.
So we're we'll go go throughthat.
But speaking of a flathead, whatwhat is your favorite hidden gem
here in our community?
SPEAKER_02 (24:23):
Evergreen gas and deli breakfast burritos.
SPEAKER_00 (24:26):
Evergreen gas and deli breakfast burritos.
I like that one.
Haven't heard that one yet.
I'm not sure we'll hear that oneagain, but that's yeah, that's
awesome.
Great.
Are you a Grizz or Bobcat fan?
Grizz.
What is uh your favorite outdooractivity in the valley?
SPEAKER_02 (24:39):
Elk hunting.
SPEAKER_00 (24:41):
Where do you go elk hunting here in the valley?
Or do you go outside of it?
Both.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
I go, you know, west of Cowlspell a lot, but
sometimes I'll go outside thevalley.
SPEAKER_00 (24:50):
What do you know today that you wish you knew
when you started out?
SPEAKER_02 (24:54):
I think I mentioned this before, you know, in our
talk today, and just thateveryone is much more alike than
we are different, and we gottawe gotta focus on that because
the division that I see in myjob, it really magnifies how
unhealthy that is.
And we have to find a way tofocus on what we all agree on,
which is much more than wedisagree on, but we're not
(25:15):
focusing on that right now.
SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
Building bridges.
I like it.
So when your your story's over,what do you want the one or two
sentence review on your book tobe?
SPEAKER_02 (25:25):
I'd like it to read that I cared about other people
and that I was a good husbandand a good father.
SPEAKER_00 (25:30):
Jordan, thank you so much for uh being with us today.
Uh thank you for your service toour community and for all the
great work that you're doing atuh the police department.
And we thank your your force aswell.
I mean, uh like I said, you'vegot a great, great group of
officers over there.
And I know you know that, but uhas a community member, having
met several of them now, I justfeel super fortunate to have
them here and super fortunate tohave you in the steep that
(25:52):
you're in doing the things thatyou're doing.
So thank you again for all thatyou do, and thank you for being
on Heart of the Flathead.
SPEAKER_02 (25:57):
Thank you, David.
I appreciate the opportunity.
SPEAKER_01 (26:00):
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SPEAKER_00 (00:21):
Welcome everybody to another episode of Heart of the
Flathead.
Excited to have our guest heretoday.
We've got police chief for theCallisville Police Department,
Jordan Venestio.
I'm grateful to have him heretoday.
Jordan, thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER_02 (00:33):
Hey, thank you, David.
Glad to be here.
SPEAKER_00 (00:35):
Awesome.
So, you know, obviously thepolice department plays a huge
role in any community and in ourcommunity.
And I think it's one of thosethings that maybe is not fully
appreciated.
You hear about a lot of thepolice in the news, usually from
a negative perspective, butthere's positive press as well.
And I think we're superfortunate in our community to
have such a great policedepartment, have a great police
chief and you, Jordan.
(00:56):
But we want to take this timetoday, maybe to get to know you
a little bit and know a littlebit about what you do, how you
got to where you were, and thenwe can talk a little bit more
about what the police departmentdoes for the community, all the
great progress you guys havemade in in the last several
years.
But uh let's start by maybe justget to know a little bit more
about your background, whereyou're from, kind of your life
experience, how you got to uhwhere you are today, and maybe
(01:16):
what you've learned along theway.
SPEAKER_02 (01:18):
Yeah, that sounds great.
So my name is Jordan Venezio.
I'm the police chief for thecity of Calspell.
And I grew up in Montana.
Most of my life, my childhood atleast, I grew up in Troy,
Montana.
So over a little teeny town onthe Idaho border outside of
Libby there.
In high school, my family movedover to Columbia Falls, and
(01:38):
that's where I graduated highschool.
And, you know, at that point, Iwasn't, I wasn't certain what I
wanted to do, you know, as I asI grew up.
I ended up going to Flat ValleyCommunity College here in
Callspell and got an associate'sdegree in business and my real
estate license.
So that was my my plan uh rightafter high school.
(01:58):
And then the real estate marketcrashed in 2008, and it was one
of those things where I had tolook for something, and I had a
friend in law enforcement at KPDwho encouraged me to apply.
So at 20 years old, I threw inmy application at KPD, hadn't
really given it much thought,but it immediately I recognized
(02:19):
this as the profession that Iwas I was meant to do.
So I was fortunate enough to gethired and began my career with
the Calspow Police Department in2009.
SPEAKER_00 (02:28):
So who was the police chief that hired you?
SPEAKER_02 (02:30):
Roger Nassett.
And how many years did you serveunder him?
I would say my first seven yearswere under Roger Nassett.
And then he retired and ChiefDoug Overman took over.
Right.
And I believe I believe ChiefOverman, he was the chief for
five or six years.
SPEAKER_00 (02:47):
Got it.
And then you you succeeded ChiefOverman, then is that right?
SPEAKER_02 (02:51):
Yes.
Yes, I did.
SPEAKER_00 (02:52):
Right.
Okay, great.
Now, funny, funny story I thinkwould be good for everybody to
hear is I happened to be in ameeting where you were
presenting and several people inthe audience who knew who you
were, and there was stories thatwere, I guess, that you
confirmed that you you were kindof a skate rat growing up and uh
and had some fun, I'm not sayingagainst the law, but you know,
(03:13):
it was maybe you were so maybegive us a little bit of that
background about you know what'swhat that's about and maybe a
little bit more about yourchildhood in that regard.
SPEAKER_02 (03:23):
Yeah, you know, it's it's one of those things where I
think it had it gave me a goodperspective on moving forward
into a career of law enforcementof just understanding that we're
a lot more alike than we aredifferent.
And you know, as a as a kid, Ididn't have clear direction.
I wasn't I wasn't a criminal atall.
I wasn't a you know delinquent,but you know, definitely had
(03:44):
some fun.
And un until I think untilsomeone finds out what their
true purpose is and what theythey want to do in their life,
you feel the purpose in in yourprofession and you you have the
focus to be successful at thatpoint.
And and that's really what itcame down to me is as a as a
kid, I didn't have the focus andI didn't have purpose or clear
(04:07):
direction of what I wanted formy life.
And so when you're you'rereferring to some of those
interactions with the communitymembers, it was it was all in
good fun, and those are amazingpeople.
But as I look back on it and asI encounter some of my friends'
parents and and teachers, theylook at me and they they say,
Really?
(04:27):
You're the chief of police inCalusville.
And it's uh you know, they'rethey're happy and they're and
they're they're proud, but atthe same point, I don't think
they saw it coming.
SPEAKER_00 (04:36):
Absolutely.
I can relate with that.
That's why I it's kindredspirits in that regard.
Is like I remember growing upand you know, you just our
life's experiences help shape usand uh give us perspective once
we get a little bit older andthat uh our brains are a little
more developed and we can youknow see the world a little bit
more uh accurately.
So I think that that is a good,a great, great thing for just
(04:58):
the people to know is that weall have our way of getting to
where we are and we havedifferent experiences and and
we're I I I love the quote, youknow, we're we're more alike
than we're than we we're not.
And I think that is that thatthat rings true with me
definitely.
So okay, so you were thinkingabout going into business and
real estate.
What uh what what prompted thatwhen you when you graduated high
(05:19):
school?
SPEAKER_02 (05:19):
So my my stepfather was in real estate, and just
that opportunity presenteditself as a path forward.
I can tell you that was the timein my life where I was I was
searching for what I wanted inmy life.
I knew that I wanted to do good,I knew I wanted to be
successful.
So I I was working hard in areasthat I wasn't quite sure if it
(05:41):
was it or not.
And I do still love uh realestate.
I know that's something that Ithink was kind of just
fascinating.
And I I could see myself hadthat that market not changed, I
probably would have stuck withthat.
You know, I I enjoyed it.
But I was also getting marriedand needing to find a job with
(06:02):
income so I could, you know,support.
And so it just I kind of justlanded in law enforcement.
And a lot of people when Iinterview for for new positions,
they talk about how they hadthis lifelong dream of service
and law enforcement.
And if I'm being completelyhonest, I didn't I didn't have
that.
I didn't feel that until I wasalready hired.
(06:23):
But it was pretty it was prettyimmediate that I could feel it,
but it wasn't it wasn't alifelong goal of mine.
SPEAKER_00 (06:30):
That's powerful.
You felt it at that instant.
SPEAKER_02 (06:32):
So how long you've been married?
I have been married for going on16 years.
It'll be 16 years this year.
No, I lied.
It'll be 17 years this nextyear.
unknown (06:41):
Awesome.
SPEAKER_02 (06:42):
Hopefully she's not listening.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:44):
How many uh how many kids do you have?
SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
I have two kids.
I have a fifth grade daughterand a fourth grade son.
So my daughter will be 11 nextmonth, and my son will be 10 in
March.
SPEAKER_00 (06:55):
Kids are a blast.
That's that's that's great.
So okay, so you started offthinking business and real
estate just based on you knowexperience with you know the
adult figures in your life.
That's pretty typical.
You you applied to KPD because afriend tells you to, or or you
have a friend there, and you endup realizing right away pretty,
pretty quickly then that this iswhat your calling was in life
(07:17):
was to was to be in lawenforcement.
Yeah.
And what led you to want to bethe chief of police?
SPEAKER_02 (07:26):
I think that was another thing that just happened
over time.
I didn't have those aspirationsfrom the start.
I did have mentors, RogerNassett, Chief Overman both.
As my career progressed, theythey expressed that they
believed that that is somethingthat I could do if if I wanted
it.
And they would, you know, helpme work towards that with
(07:48):
different experiences andtrainings and things I could do
in my career.
SPEAKER_00 (07:53):
They saw your potential then, basically.
You you must have been a good, agood so you were on patrol and
you did different things uh whenyou were uh an officer, is that
right?
SPEAKER_02 (08:01):
Yeah.
So I started in patrol likeeverybody does, and I worked
probably five straight years ofthat.
After that, I was on themotorcycle traffic division.
So I worked on the motorcyclesfor a couple years.
I got to work a summer on theNorthwest Drug Task Force, and I
got to work as a school resourceofficer for a few years at
Calcewell Middle School.
(08:22):
And after that, I was promotedto patrol sergeant, where I
worked for a few years.
And then they had a new positionof a lieutenant, a patrol
lieutenant that I was fortunateenough to be selected for and
promoted to lieutenant.
And that is really the positionthat prepares you
administratively, is once youget to that lieutenant position.
And yeah, things just keptprogressing.
(08:44):
And as far as the the chiefposition, I was lucky enough to
be selected for the FBI NationalAcademy in Kwanico, Virginia.
And it's a you know pretty longprocess.
It can take years to beselected.
Only about 1% of law enforcementever gets to attend that.
And in April 2023, I was inVirginia for a few months
(09:06):
attending that when ChiefOverman announced his
retirement.
And so I I actually applied anddid my first interviews over
Zoom from Quantico, Virginia tobe the post chief here in Cal.
SPEAKER_00 (09:18):
So what what is what is the purpose of the the uh the
academy or the program inQuantico?
SPEAKER_02 (09:24):
Essentially it's executive leadership for law
enforcement.
So uh courses from publicspeaking to dealing with media,
officer wellness, leadership, awhole multitude of things that
they have experts from all overthe country come in and teach
these courses.
SPEAKER_00 (09:41):
And so only 1% of law enforcement professionals
get selected for that program?
Is that what you said?
Wow.
So we've got the 1% as our ourchief of police here in
Callispo.
That's pretty awesome.
That's that's really awesome.
So that's great.
So what was how was thatexperience?
I mean, do you feel like thatwas was a great experience?
And or what what did you takeaway from that?
SPEAKER_02 (10:02):
It you know, it was it was an amazing experience.
It was a challenge for me in asense of my wife and children
were here and a lot of burdenwas put on my wife's shoulders
for the house and the kids.
And so that was stressful beinggone, more stressful for her
than me.
But it was something that I'mfortunate that I was able to do
it.
(10:22):
I met lifelong friends.
The the networking that I've hadavailable to me as a police
chief.
I mean, essentially every statein the United States, I know a
high-level chief or sheriff allover the country.
And I can give them, you know,we we spend so much time
together that I have their phonenumbers and I can just call them
(10:43):
and ask them for their advice orpolicies or you know, things
that they've gone through thatwe're now going through to see
if they can help us navigate it.
And I think it's reallyinstrumental in a police chief
having the ability to lean in onother people that may have
answers for them.
The National Academy can dothat.
SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
Aaron Powell Does all law enforcement collaborate
like that then throughout thecountry, or is that kind of
unique to the people thatparticipate in in this program
in Quantico?
SPEAKER_02 (11:14):
You know, I think law enforcement is pretty
dependent, unfortunately, on theneed to collaborate.
And I can tell you here in theflathead, collaboration is the
only way that we find success.
You know, Sheriff Haino, myself,Chief Stevens, Chief Kelch, and
Whitefish, we need each otherand we and we know that.
So our relationships are arevery important.
(11:36):
And we have to use each other indifferent ways, whether it's
help on calls or differentcollaboration or large events
that are outside the scope thatwe can handle.
We have to have that.
Large agencies, they may havethe resources they need to
handle most things.
So I don't know that you see thecollaboration as much, but I can
tell you from my opinion,whether you're large or small,
(11:58):
collaboration is the only way totruly be successful in law
enforcement.
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SPEAKER_00 (13:17):
And so how do you how do you define success in law
enforcement?
I think success in lawenforcement is you know twofold.
SPEAKER_02 (13:25):
Is the community uh healthy and safe?
And are your police officershealthy and safe?
You have to, you know, identifyboth those things because that
is something that I'm happy tosee.
We are really focusing on thehealth of law enforcement as we
as this profession progresses.
But I think that was ignored fora long time.
(13:47):
And the negative impacts on thatare not, they don't stop at the
long at the law enforcementofficer.
They they trickle down in thewhole community when you don't
take care of police officers.
And if we have community membersthat feel safe outside their
house, the roads are safe, theythey know that there is
consequence for crime, right?
(14:07):
They believe in the justicesystem.
That to me is the true measureof whether we're doing a good
job.
SPEAKER_00 (14:12):
So as police chief, what what is your role on that
success chain?
SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
Well, we talked a little bit about collaboration
in a sense of law enforcementagencies collaborating, but
community collaboration is huge.
I want them to know me.
I want the community to be ableto reach out, call me, express
concerns, feel that even if theanswer they want is not the
answer they get, they at leastunderstand the challenges or or
(14:38):
why we do certain things.
I think that that's uh veryimportant.
And then my other job is toprepare police officers to do
the best job they can for theircommunity by putting the mission
first to keep the communitysafe.
But at the same time, I wantthem to know that we care about
them and we're going to takecare of them, you know, for the
hard job that they do, because apolice officer's job, especially
(16:13):
today, is tremendouslydifficult.
SPEAKER_00 (16:16):
As you know, I in preparation for our discussion
today, I did a ride along withone of your officers.
And I can just confirm that, youknow, we've got we've got some
great police officers here inCalispel that really want to do
the right thing and besuccessful in the way you
defined success for lawenforcement.
And I think that uh we're we'resuper fortunate, obviously, is a
(16:39):
credit to you and yourpredecessors, but also to the
individual officers who make thesacrifices and take the time to
learn their their their tradeand to implement and execute
that trade.
So I guess this is you know justme saying thank you for that
because I, you know, my my I smyself and my family, we feel at
least feel safe as a result ofthat and think you guys are
(16:59):
doing a great job.
So thank you for for all ofthat.
SPEAKER_02 (17:03):
Yeah, thank you.
I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_00 (17:05):
How I mean, you talked about safety, you talked
about community involvement orcommunity feedback and those
sorts of things.
What are the things does thepolice department do for the
community?
I mean, obviously public safetyis number one, but I feel like
they're involved in a lot ofdifferent ways.
And so you know anything elsethat we haven't touched on yet
in this discussion?
SPEAKER_02 (17:25):
Yeah, I mean, you'll see your police officers
involved heavily in the schooldistricts.
We have a pretty robust SROprogram.
So our elementary schools, highschools, and even the Flat
Valley Community College, wehave a school resource officer
program.
You know, if you're if you'relooking for things, you're gonna
see police officers fixing kids'bike chains, you know, when
they're on patrol.
You're gonna see them talking tokids at parks.
(17:47):
They they don't only focus onthe you know the criminal
component of the job.
We hire people mostly based offof who they are as as people.
And that is something that Iheard Chief Overman say
repeatedly was we can we cantrain police officers, but we're
gonna hire for character andwe're gonna hire good people
first and foremost.
(18:09):
And that is what I fully believeseparates KPD from other law
enforcement is we hiretremendous people.
Not that we're perfect, not thatyou know, sometimes we fall
short of that and there'sconsequences for that.
But by and large, we hire peoplethat care about their community
and are out there working everyday showing that.
Uh, we have volunteer programs.
(18:31):
I would say law enforcement uhspecifically, the largest law
enforcement area that we focuson is Special Olympics.
So athletes with uh varyinglevels of disabilities.
We participate in SpecialOlympics.
We have a Special Olympicscoordinator, we do penguin
plunges, law enforcement torchruns, and we volunteer our time
(18:52):
for that.
And that has built some prettyspecial relationships with that
program in our policedepartment.
SPEAKER_00 (18:58):
That's awesome.
And so youth, obviously, is abig focus.
You missed and mentioned the SROroles.
That's the school resourceofficer at the individual high
schools and at the middleschool.
Do you have school resourceofficers at the elementary
schools?
SPEAKER_02 (19:11):
Not specifically at the elementary schools.
We have our uh middle schoolSRO.
He'll spend some time with them,and then each high school has a
middle school that or anelementary school that they will
go down and you know, readbooks, have lunch with the kids,
just make sure that they knowthem.
SPEAKER_00 (19:26):
Right.
And so I, you know, my I mydaughter was at Calisbow Middle
School.
She is not flathead, but Iremember that uh Officer Allen
was the school resource officerfor her her tenure at Calisbow
Middle School.
My son's there now.
I actually don't know who theschool resource officer is at
this point, but I know thatthey've done a lot of great work
there.
I also, interesting, on when Iwas on patrol with Officer
(19:48):
Ormiston, we first thing we didon day patrol was go by the
elementary school in his patrolzone, which was ranking.
And he just talked about, yeah,we're we're always checking on
the kids.
We want to make sure the kidsare safe.
And and as a parent, that'ssuper reassuring.
And so it's great that we are sofocused on on our youth and our
community and and making surethat they're safe.
SPEAKER_02 (20:09):
I don't think there's anything more important
than the safety of our children.
And if and if I have onepriority as a chief of police,
it it is around our kids andmake sure that everything that
we do centers around that.
There's no more important thingto protect than our children.
They're, in my opinion, been inlaw enforcement for as long as I
have the only true victims inour world are our children.
(20:32):
They're innocent.
They're the only true innocentpeople.
So it's a high, high priorityfor KPD.
SPEAKER_00 (20:37):
So referring to that presentation that I had had the
opportunity to participate in acouple months back, you had
shared some statistics about howthe law enforcement success had
improved over the past severalyears as a result of the public
safety levy that passed a fewyears ago.
And I think some of the thingsthat stood out to me, response
times were down.
(20:58):
So you guys were able to get tosituations quicker as a result
of more staff and moreresources.
What are some of the highlightsfrom, I guess, the the benefits
that have accrued as a result ofthat public safety levy?
SPEAKER_02 (21:10):
Yeah, I would say the two biggest and most visible
benefits are those responsetimes you referred to.
We are getting to calls for helpfaster, significantly faster.
I would say we've already cutthem close to in half from when
the levy first was requested.
And the other thing is proactivepolice work.
We're seeing a big return tothat at KPD.
(21:32):
We had what does that mean?
Proactive police work?
Proactive policing is anythingfrom traffic stops to pedestrian
stops to business checks, justbeing out in the community and
without being called to help, weare we are looking for things to
keep the community safe or evenlooking for things to build
relationships with thecommunity.
(21:53):
So rather than just beingresponsive all the time to
crimes that are happening, weare taking steps to prevent
those crimes.
SPEAKER_00 (22:05):
So great.
Well, you obviously talked a lotabout police work here, but you
know, so as you think about yourlife, you know, we talked about
some of your motivations and youwant to you want to give back to
the community.
What are things that you dooutside of work to help you
recharge and refocus and and beon your A game when you when you
show up at the station?
SPEAKER_02 (22:25):
Anything outdoors in the flathead, that's that's what
I'm about.
So you'll see me rafting on therivers, you'll see me archery
elk hunting, you'll see me withmy my family, my children, and
my wife camping and fishing andjust the the simple things in
life that truly matter.
That's what I like to focus on.
And it's awesome.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (22:42):
It's a have you gotten an elk yet this year?
SPEAKER_02 (22:45):
I have I have not.
I I have a whole bunch ofexcuses why, but I I didn't get
an elk.
unknown (22:50):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (22:51):
I will though.
SPEAKER_02 (22:51):
I have I have time.
SPEAKER_00 (22:53):
Okay, good.
Did you get a chance to go outalready though, or have you not
been out yet?
SPEAKER_02 (22:56):
I I was able to get out a little bit.
I actually this last spring I Iruptured my Achilles tendon, so
I had surgery in in April, andit's it slowed me down a little
bit.
I'm not uh I'm not getting afterit as much as I usually can.
SPEAKER_00 (23:09):
Right.
And you're still young, Bach.
You man, you should berecovering quickly.
We gotta get you get you back upand going.
It gets it's worse than that.
SPEAKER_02 (23:17):
I can I can tell you how I ruptured it if if you want
to really be able to tease.
I was playing pickleball with my74-year-old stepdad.
So that was fun.
Yeah.
Who won?
Who won the game?
He did for sure.
Every game.
Okay.
That's why I was trying so hard.
SPEAKER_00 (23:34):
Right.
Yeah.
Use different muscles and andtendons, I guess, for
pickleball, right?
Yeah.
That's great.
Well, yeah, Jordan, what whatdoes uh a better, stronger
future for our community here inthe flathead look like to you?
SPEAKER_02 (23:49):
I think in our community, we're gonna continue
to focus on partnerships andmaking sure we have the
resources we need in the valley,safer roads, uh, mental health
resources, jail capacity,community involvement with our
police officers.
You know, over time, if we staythat course and we invest in
that, you're gonna see theflathead continue to get safer
and healthier.
SPEAKER_00 (24:09):
We're uh we're gonna move on to our our flathead
five, which are the fivequestions we ask all of our
guests.
And they're just rapid fire.
So we're we'll go go throughthat.
But speaking of a flathead, whatwhat is your favorite hidden gem
here in our community?
SPEAKER_02 (24:23):
Evergreen gas and deli breakfast burritos.
SPEAKER_00 (24:26):
Evergreen gas and deli breakfast burritos.
I like that one.
Haven't heard that one yet.
I'm not sure we'll hear that oneagain, but that's yeah, that's
awesome.
Great.
Are you a Grizz or Bobcat fan?
Grizz.
What is uh your favorite outdooractivity in the valley?
SPEAKER_02 (24:39):
Elk hunting.
SPEAKER_00 (24:41):
Where do you go elk hunting here in the valley?
Or do you go outside of it?
Both.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
I go, you know, west of Cowlspell a lot, but
sometimes I'll go outside thevalley.
SPEAKER_00 (24:50):
What do you know today that you wish you knew
when you started out?
SPEAKER_02 (24:54):
I think I mentioned this before, you know, in our
talk today, and just thateveryone is much more alike than
we are different, and we gottawe gotta focus on that because
the division that I see in myjob, it really magnifies how
unhealthy that is.
And we have to find a way tofocus on what we all agree on,
which is much more than wedisagree on, but we're not
(25:15):
focusing on that right now.
SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
Building bridges.
I like it.
So when your your story's over,what do you want the one or two
sentence review on your book tobe?
SPEAKER_02 (25:25):
I'd like it to read that I cared about other people
and that I was a good husbandand a good father.
SPEAKER_00 (25:30):
Jordan, thank you so much for uh being with us today.
Uh thank you for your service toour community and for all the
great work that you're doing atuh the police department.
And we thank your your force aswell.
I mean, uh like I said, you'vegot a great, great group of
officers over there.
And I know you know that, but uhas a community member, having
met several of them now, I justfeel super fortunate to have
them here and super fortunate tohave you in the steep that
(25:52):
you're in doing the things thatyou're doing.
So thank you again for all thatyou do, and thank you for being
on Heart of the Flathead.
SPEAKER_02 (25:57):
Thank you, David.
I appreciate the opportunity.
SPEAKER_01 (26:00):
Thanks for listening to this episode of Heart of the
Flathead.
We'd love to hear your thoughtsabout today's episode and the
podcast in general.
You can listen at heart of theflathead.com or wherever you
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