Hustle Hotline #1: Career Burnout

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello, you've reached the Hustle Hotline.
I'm Layla Palmer and this isthe official career Q&A series
of Heart to Hustle.
You bring the questions, Ibring the answers.
Hi, I'm Layla Palmer and thisis the Hustle Hotline.
How's my lighting?
Could it be better?
We're going to and this is theHustle Hotline how is my
lighting?
Could it be better?
We're going to say that this isokay.

(00:28):
Heart to Hustle is a podcastthat I host and produce and edit
and all of the above, where Idig into the passions behind
people's careers.
It's where passion meetspurpose and I interview people
who try and lead their careerswith the things that they love
most, so that they can live alife that's worth living and not
just clocking into theirnine-to-fives until, basically,

(00:50):
they die.
Yeah, the Hustle Hotline isjust like a career Q&A bonus
episode series that I came upwith to have a little bit more
one-on-one time with my audience.
I'm a student.
I've been there.
I've been in the shoes ofpeople who are wondering what
the heck to do with theircareers.
You know what path to take,what degrees they need, should

(01:12):
they even go to, you know,college or university.
I've been through all of thatInternship, jobs, getting jobs,
classes, not doing well inclasses, maybe changing a major?
I have some experience in alittle bit of all of those
things, so I'm just here to givemy advice from someone who's
been there and who's also afellow Gen Z who gets it,
because Gen Z gets a lot offlack recently, especially in

(01:35):
the professional landscape, andI figure that this is just a
good opportunity to give us alittle bit of a leg up, some
advice, some tips and tricks.
Yeah, so the main point of theHustle Hotline is that you can
go to my SpeakPipe account.
A link will be in the shownotes, but there's this website
called SpeakPipe.
You, the listeners, can send invoicemails, anonymous or

(01:58):
include who you are.
Either is fine.
You can ask career questions.
So we're going to go throughone of those today as just like
an intro episode to what theHustle Hotline will look like
now and in the future.
Okay, so this first voicemailis a little bit interesting.
So let's hear our first everHustle Hotline voicemail.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Hi, leila, my name is Izzy.
I'm the type of person who getssuper duper passionate about
things and then I do them allthe time, and I usually find
ways to bring the things thatI'm passionate about into my
career setting, my work settingand things that, because they're
things that drive me forward,but I don't want to get burned
out in doing them.
So how do you suggest balancingbringing the things that you

(02:40):
love into your workspace withoutruining them in a way that
doesn't make you want to do itanymore?
Thank you, love your work.
You're amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, thank you, izzy , for calling in.
That's a great question andit's something I've struggled
with myself.
I haven't really done thatgreat of an introduction.
I'm Layla, I go to school atEmerson College, I'm about to
graduate, actually, and I havebeen in the same situation of
your career and then somethingthat you love doing that's a
hobby or a passion project oryou know anything in that realm.

(03:09):
So actually, my career inpodcasting began as a hobby
slash passion project In highschool.
I was a sophomore, didn'treally start taking it seriously
until I was like a senior inhigh school.
I had a series called HollywoodHero, did two seasons of that,
and that was like big senior inhigh school.
I had a series called HollywoodHero.
I did two seasons of that, andthat was like big passion
project and something that Ibasically fell in love with and

(03:30):
just was obsessed with doing andwas lucky enough to make
podcasting and audio stuff mycareer.
I got an internship at a stateagency in Boston at the end of
my freshman year at Emerson andthat was also for audio and
podcasting and I'm still doingthat to this day.
I'm coming up on three years,so I have been able to
transition from passion tocareer.

(03:50):
However, within that it is super, super tough to not burn out.
I guess For me it was less of aburnout and it was more of a
losing my passion.
I started to not do podcast andaudio stuff on my own for me
and it ended up just beingsomething I did for work and I
didn't like that.

(04:11):
It was a really slippery slope.
Eventually I did get out ofthat rut, but it wasn't until
like probably a year later.
And it was tough becausepodcasting started for me as a
passion project, as a hobby, assomething I just liked to do at
that internship, and that I wasable to get paid for what I
loved to do.
But within that there's a lotof difficulty separating the two

(04:35):
, you know, separating what ispassion and hobby and stuff that
I want to do on my downtime toenjoy, and then what is nine to
five workday related stuff, andwhen they're so deeply
intertwined, especially in termsof like at least for me in
podcasting it was all just audiopodcast stuff, so they're so
deeply intertwined, and when I'min wind down mode and want to,
you know, produce podcastingstuff for myself, then I feel

(04:59):
like I'm in work mode, becauseit's the exact same thing I do
for work.
So I would say if you'relooking to just fully separate
the two, the first thing I wouldrecommend is to just do things
in different spaces.
Another thing that has helpedme in the past is to honestly
have a schedule.
So if you know you're workingnine to five or maybe you're
part-time and you're workinglike less hours in the day,

(05:20):
having different days of theweek where you do your work and
where you do your hobbies issuper, super helpful in terms of
just like separating themmentally.
I've had a few guests on Heartto Hustle, the main series sorry
, shameless've had a few guestson Heart to Hustle, the main
series sorry, shameless plug.
A few guests on Heart to Hustlehave talked about this, about
the work-life balance and thenburnout as a whole.

(05:41):
It's really tough and I don'tthink it's something that anyone
ever fully masters.
I am actually like a few weeksago I was on the verge of
burnout myself and I think oncespring sprung and the sun came
out and the temperature went up,I was like, fine, I felt better
.
But it's really easy to getyourself caught in that rut of
just like you don't want to doanything, you're unmotivated,

(06:03):
and then everything feels like achore.
For the sake of our mentalwell-beings and you know our
hobbies and our mind not feelinglike chores we really need to
like separate physical space.
Do you work stuff at work?
Or if you work from homeremotely, do that in your home
office or go to a coffee shop orsomething, and then your hobby
stuff.
If you're like me and you liketo really be on the couch, do

(06:26):
all your hobby stuff on thecouch.
Or if you're someone that likesto do a lot of their work from
bed and you're really productivethat way, even though I don't
really recommend that, becausethen, like, we get some sleep
problems that get kind ofwishy-washy in there, but do
your work from bed but do not dowork, work and hobby work in
the same spot.
I would not recommend that.
And I'm not an expert, like Ijust said.

(06:47):
I am someone who has struggledwith this and still struggles
with this.
It's kind of just a learningcurve.
You have to figure out whatworks for you.
But the best thing I'll say isto just make a physical barrier
yeah, physical barrier and Iguess the other thing would
probably be just like have a settime for you to do hobby stuff

(07:07):
and not just when you're bored,because then it could feel like
you know, if it's scheduled intoyour day can make things a
whole lot easier.
And then I would just say don'twork when you don't need to be
working.
When you don't need to beworking if it's not in your work
day, that time is for you towind down and to reconnect with
yourself and your hobbies andthe things you love doing on

(07:28):
your downtime not working, andthat's a lot easier said than
done.
Like having an internship thatis remote and, like you know, I
have the Outlook and the Teamsapp on my phone.
Like after hours it can be hardto not check your email, answer
an email really quickly, likethat stuff's really tough.
But you have to createboundaries with your job and
also with yourself.
Like it just is healthy to havethe boundary physical and

(07:50):
mental boundary between hobbiesand work.
So, yeah, I don't know if anyof that made sense.
I think that's going to be allfor today.
Hustle Hotline episodes aregoing to be really bite-sized.
They will be video like this,hopefully every time, but
they're going to be reallybite-sized, really just like
quick and dirty advice for youto take away and if you want to

(08:11):
be featured in an upcomingepisode, then I highly recommend
going to the link in the shownotes and sending in a little
voicemail.
You can include your name, youcan include any information you
want about yourself.
That will help me answer thequestion better.
And yeah, so if you liked thispodcast, be sure to give us a
reading and a review, because usindie podcasters it's rough out

(08:33):
here, okay, and anything helpsother people find the podcast.
You leave a comment, you know,follow us on instagram heart to
hustle pod.
All of the things.
All the things will be in theshow notes and, yeah, I will see
you guys next time bye.