August 27, 2024 • 36 mins
Hey Heartbreakers! If you’ve ever seen Euphoria then you will have definitely seen our guest this week, if not, well go watch it and get back to us! Chole Cherry is sitting down with Elsa to explore the complex process of leaving the industry, what else Chole is doing in the mainstream media, and if one of our callers has a rather specific kink!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Media.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello, heartbreakers. I hope you all are doing good. I'm
really excited today because I get to interview Chloe Cherry.
I'm so happy. Steph actually, my makeup artist said, good
friend actually made this connection so well, I know you.
I just was too scared to ask, you know, so
(00:41):
Steph actually was like you got to interview her stuff.
I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yes, I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I haven't had and I don't, like I'm not like
against talking about the industry, of course, but like I
just don't. I feel like there's a million podcasts, so
I've like.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, it's like there literally are, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So many, Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, I find that like when I first like got
out of the industry and went on podcasts, all anybody
wanted to talk about was the porn industry, even though
I had just done an entire HBO show and like
done all these movies and like done all this stuff,
and like all anyone wanted to talk about was the industry.
And like, I'm sure you know how annoying it is.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
No, for sure, it's annoying. I Mean the only thing
that I like think I haven't talked to somebody about
or like really heard about is like the transition. Oh yeah,
and like cause like one of my questions actually is
it is like I've had girls in the industry be like, oh,
I got into the industry so I can go mainstream,
and I'm like, you understand that that's really super rare
and actually harder.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I mean I don't know how it is to do
it without the industry, but yeah, I feel like it's
one hundred times harder, like a yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, really hard. I remember I didn't get into the
porn industry thinking I would go into mainstream. I thought
I'd get into the porn industry like make money. Yeah,
of course I.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Actually said that though, because everyone's always like I just
love suck so much, like just.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Say it's really money. Yeah exactly. I've had so many
discussions with so many girls about how like that industry
the only reason anybody does it is for money, Like
no one cares, like literally there's money, and even the
men don't care about this. A, no, of course they don't.
They don't at all.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Clothes.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, it's like completely just about the money, because you
do make like way more money than you would at
like any other kind of like entry level job where
you don't need like a degree or something.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So yeah, and there's a bunch of hurry up and wait,
it's not like you really have to like do too much.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
From my experience, totally exactly. Yeah, but how did you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Then get into acting?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
If it was literally like I it was so random,
and I'm so lucky that I had this experience. But
I had been in the industry from like two thoy
fifteen to like twenty nineteen, and then in like twenty nineteen,
I decided that I wanted to quit, and like I
really didn't know what I was going to do. Like
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I thought I was going to like go back to college,
like do something, because like I just knew that, like
I really really didn't want to be in the porn industry, which.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Not even want to do the subscription site.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I was doing that that was like fine for me
for a little bit, just to kind of like transition me,
you know, And I think that was like all I
was doing. And I was living with my family back
in Pennsylvania because I was like didn't feel like dealing
with like paying la rent and all that stuff. But
I just wanted to like kind of transition and I
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was genuinely thinking of like going back to college, and
I was literally like taking like online courses, like I
was taking like medical courses.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Like I was gonna get into like the medical industry.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah. Yeah, I was just trying like anything I could
because I really wanted. Something that I really hated about
the porn industry was that I never felt like I
had this like just real job, you know, because it
felt like it was something that like anybody could do
with no skill, anybody could do it, and like it
wasn't always like guaranteed money, you know, Like for me personally,
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it was a very unstable industr to be in and
like didn't make me feel like confident with myself or anything.
So like I just knew that, like I wanted to
go back to school, so that way, by the time
I was like thirty, I would be like fully out
of the industry and doing something that I was actually
like really proud of. Yeah, And I was still doing
like social media and stuff because I really like social
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media and just kind of like being on the Internet.
And one day this casting company like contacts me through
my DMS and they're like, hey, will you audition for
the show Euphoria, and when I saw it, I was like, oh,
that's completely just like a phishing scam or.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Like season one was already out.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, season one was already out, yeah, And I had
seen it and I liked it, And I saw this
DM and I was like, that's weird, Like there's no
way that they actually want me to audition for you
for it.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Like there's no way.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Scared, I was, yeah, but I also just thought it
was fake. And then like I got an email that
said like, hey, we want you to audition for this show.
And I literally responded back to one of the emails
because they like kept emailing me, and I was like, no,
like I'm not interesting because I genuinely thought it was fake,
Like I thought it was a scam because like who
on earth would ever expect to have a show contact you.
(05:08):
That's just not Yeah, things good, that's true. I never
thought about that. And then they emailed me back and
they were like are you sure, like the director really
wants to see your tape and I was like, okay, fine,
Like if I'm just sending it a self tape, I
guess that's not gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Hurt me that So they were like, please record yourself
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah self tape.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah. And then they sent me a script. They were
like they literally sent me a scene from like another
movie and they wanted me to like recreate it. So
then I did that and I sent it in and
I was like, okay, whatever, like I don't know, we'll
see what this is. And they were like, we really
like it. Will you come in for the callback on
like Thursday And it was like Monday, and I was like, no,
I'm in Pennsylvania. They come to this callback and at
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that time, like I still wasn't sure if it was
a real thing.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
They like that about you, probably this girl thinks she's
too good.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And they yeah, I mean I just thought it just
seems like that's never happen ever really, anyone's just been
like contacted to be on a TV show like that.
So then I they were like come in for the
callback and they were like, oh, that's fine, we'll just
fly you out and I was like okay. And then
literally the next day I was like on a flight
to la and like flew there and like did the
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callback and then I had like a good feeling about it.
I don't know what it was. It's like a feeling
that like I haven't so yeah something. I just had
a feeling that like I was going to get it.
And then I did get it, and I was like wow,
like this just like it just made sense in the moment,
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like for some reason, because it was also like I
was looking for a way to get out of the industry,
and like it just really worked out. I was so lucky.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I just see your good karma.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
That's yeah what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean when I was watching, of course, I loved
you for you and I when I saw it, I
started watching as soon as season two came out. I
was one of those people like it's dropping today. And
then when I saw it, I was like, no way,
that's her because I remember you obviously industry and I
was like no way, and I googled it and it
popped up that it was you, and I was like
wait what because they're acting was so good, like I
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remember when you put the needle in the leg and
I was just like, no, that was too good, Like
I really genuine I was like, I just never not
that I didn't see you doing that, because I feel
like you're definitely someone that wasn't meant for the adult industry,
and I don't know that in a mean way.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Actually no, Yeah, but like I completely agree, But like,
are that many people really like meant for it, like
to really like stay in it and not be their hole?
I think so, Yeah, I guess there are some. I
think there's a.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Lot of people that that is like, and I think
that it's great and an empowering too, but I think
that's their calling in life.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
That's really the other ways more people would because I
remember like being in the industry and from like probably
like my first year and on, I was always like
trying to find some way out. But like you kind
of at least my experience was like I felt like
I kind of like got trapped in it, where like
suddenly I like had a lease on an apartment in
LA and like I just had.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
My wardrobe every time.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, and like suddenly I had like all these bills
that I had to pay and my only income was
the porn industry. And then I like, and it's also
impossible to be like a porn star and then just
go out and get like literally any job, like even
if it was like a Chipotle or like any job
that like people say is like easy for young people
to get Like nobody wants to hire like a twenty
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one year old who's never had a real job.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, like they really don't history exactly. I think about
that often with myself. I'm like I don't really have
to work history for.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Literally, and that's like what I'm going to do, so
like totally and that's like why I was going to
like go to college or do something and do anything
that I could.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, because like such a like a good career right now.
But I mean I feel like you're just smart and
you should do that just like expand your brain. Yeah,
you know, even if you don't get the actual degree.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, but what do you do?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Like what's what are you working on? Now?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Are you working right now? I'm working on.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I have like I do like a lot of like
indie movies, like a lot of them, and I've done
seven so far, and then I have like three more
that I'm cast in that like we're kind of just
waiting for it to like get fully put together so
we can start so hopefully like this coming fall, I'll
be shooting that. And then yeah, I have more stuff
(09:27):
that I can't talk about, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
True, I have like the more stuff can you do
commercials instead?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, I do like a lot of brand deals and
that kind of stuff, and yeah, that's really cool. I
used to do like a little bit of fashion stuff,
but I haven't done that in a while. That's like
such an interesting world to me, Like the runway modeling
and stuff like. That's also like a world that like
I it's impossible to be like thin enough, you know,
like tall enough, because I'm tall, but I'm still not
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even tall enough for that, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But I know they aren't like legit six foot yes exactly.
They do really want them a hundred pounds. But you
call the cover of Galore.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Right, Yeah, I did do Galore. Yeah, I've done a
bunch of covers actually. But the runway modeling, I remember,
like because in the adult industry I always felt very
tall and like thin, and then in the modeling industry,
like in runway, I felt like a circle. Like I
felt like I was literally like a circle, and you
feel so fat and sure because everyone's like, yeah, like
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six feet tall and under.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Pounds, I know. And then and then yeah, when they
put the outfits on you and it's and it's a
double zero and it's you know, and you're like, why'd
you send that? You know, I like not, Yeah, nobody can.
It's just ridiculous they I don't know why they do
that or like, you know, but you're just so unique
looking and so pretty you should do more than you
should do like Gucci or like something.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, that is.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Always like the goal, but it's kind of like, at
least in the side of the industry I'm in, like
it kind of works where like if you have like
a project out, then like brands like that want to
work with you. If I have a show out or
a movie out, then like me doing a shoot with them,
like it promotes their brand through the movie and stuff, and.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's all kind of cross promotion. Yeah, exactly, are you
guys working on season three or you're not allowed to
say that.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I can't say, Okay, but they are making season three.
I can say that, but I can't say like who
is involved and everything, but they are making it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Zadea is born on the same day as me. Oh wow,
I know everybody's birthday, like yours is August twenty three,
and happy birthday by anything, But.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I really don't know because my boyfriend's out of town
and like I don't know what else to do. I
don't know. It feels weird to like have like a
party or like a dinner without him, So like I
feel like I will just kind of decide on the
day and then when he's back, I'll like do like
something with my friends and him. So nice.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I was gonna ask you because obviously this podcast is
about dating, yes, and I was gonna ask to talk
about dating.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You are nice.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I was gonna ask like, was it hard? Because how
long have you been with your boyfriend?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Was I've been with him only for five months.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Or six months? Has it been hard dating mainstream? Like
do you get unique type of guys?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So when I was like in the porn industry, I
had like one boyfriend through the whole industry. He wasn't
in the industry, but like he was like an artist,
so like he kind of thought it was like interesting
or whatever. And like I had that boyfriend, and then
I was like single for a while and I had
like on and off like situationship things. And for the
longest time, I felt like so many guys like to me,
(12:41):
it felt like no guy was like interested in a relationship,
Like they were all interested in like hanging out, but
not like an actual relationship, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Was it like was it mainstream people?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Was Yeah, yeah, it was only I mean I actually
literally never had anything with anyone in the porn industry.
I've never like hooked up with them in like person, Like.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't anything that I have, nobody does that. People
would do that I think are like no offense to them.
And I gotta be careful talking about the industry, but
I think that people who go to set and sleep
with the like whoever their talent is and then want
to sleep But I just think it's weird, be like,
well that makes total sense. They just had sex.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I know. I think it's so I don't get it
at all. And like I never had like any even
the most vague feelings for anyone in that industry. But
like I hear face, I found like just people that
were yeah, like in mainstream, we're just kind of in
like mainstream is like huge, like there's so many you
can be like a photographer, like a million things behind
the scenes, and like I would meet a lot of
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people that way or people that were artists in some way,
and like I would just kind of like date around
for a while. But like nobody like really wanted, I mean,
and then I think also like maybe I didn't like
anybody enough to actually like give them my full self,
you know, like I would always end up like playing
games with people and just like not responding. Like we were.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Talking about the toxic one.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, like I would just be like, oh, well, he
didn't respond fast enough to me, so I'm just gonna
not respond to him or something. Always get yeah, And
like with my boyfriend now, like we've never had a
day that was like that, like, oh, like he's not
responding or something, and like.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
What does he do.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
He's a musician. He's in a band, and he's like
really busy, like constantly playing shows, and he's always out
of town, which is like hard. But then at the
same time, it's like I spend like every moment with
him when he is in town. Then when I leave town,
I like am just you know, doing my own things.
So like in a way, it like works, like we
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make it work.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
How is he young old?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He's thirty six, he's like ten years older than that.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I feel like that's a good age.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's a really good age. Like I wouldn't want to
I didn't realize this, but that's like the exact age
I want to be dating. Like, I don't want to
do anyone any younger.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I don't want to be with anybody too old just
because yeah, they get to be like a little boring
and a little too controlling totally, and then I don't
want too young because of just the immaturity.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yes, exactly, Like I don't really want to date somebody
especially like I'm like twenty six almost twenty seven, Like
I'm not going to date somebody who's like twenty three.
But I'm also not going to date somebody who's like
fifty three.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So like, yeah, I feel like, yeah, you've never dated
an old guy.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I've never dated like an old guy never ever.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I you know, no offense, and I don't know if
it's offensive, but I would have taken you for someone
that has always like you just seem so mature. So
it's like I would have taken always been with older.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I've like had like not even like a flink kind
of just like a you know, when you have like
a friendship with somebody where like they have a crush
on you or something with a bunch of older guys
actually like with like men in like their fifties or whatever,
where like we're like friends, but like they're like in
love with me. I've had that a couple.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You never had a sugar daddy?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
No, I never had like a real sugar daddy. I
literally like like you said earlier, like I didn't fit
in the industry, Like I genuinely do not know how
to navigate, Like oh yeah in history, Like I don't know,
Like what how do you even find a sugar daddy?
Like what do you ease?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
They just like they just I don't know. They just
like come to you, you'll be out and they just yeuck.
I'm crazy, But I don't know. That isn't it's that's exhausting. Yeah,
But what's your favorite date or do you have like
a horrible date that you went on.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That were like, oh my god. One time. I this
was back in like twenty twenty or twenty twenty one
or something. I met this girl who I really got
along with, and then she was like, I want to
set you up with this guy I know. And she
sets me up with this guy that she knows, and
he's like, I forget what his deal was. But then
we go out and he was like, I don't know
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like you know those I feel like I never meet them.
I only see them like on the internet, those like
kind of like really right wing guys that like really
like guns and.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Like yeah, like really Texas time.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Really Texas is a great way to play. Yeah, and uh.
And at first I was like, I was like very
single at the time, and I wasn't interested in anyone.
So I was like, Okay, I'll just go on this
date and meet this guy. And he was just so
like you know those guys that just say things like
well women, women shouldn't or like you know, yeah, and
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like they don't even need to be and it's just
was so strange. And then he took me back to
his place because he wanted to show me his guns.
He was like, yeah, I have a gun collection. Scared
and went back to his place and to see his
gun collection, and I'm not even kidding. He had like
this cabinet that had like a hundred guns in it,
like so many guns. It was just packed with guns.
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And that was the weirdest date I've been on.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That that is weird, and that's honestly, I'd be really scared.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, And I remember being like okay.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And he were like I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Home, or yeah, then I left and then I never
talked to Hi about it again. Yeah, I was just like,
I don't know why. I just thought it would be
interesting to see the guns. And I was just like,
I'm just never going to talk to this guy.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, you just have a curious mind.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yes, literally.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
This might get me in trouble, but yeah, you know
the same lip fast die pretty. I always say that
I like to get yourself in a bad situation. Why
not I'd rather die like that having fun. Yeah, I
know you wanted to. I loved your lip fillers, but
did you take them out or I know.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah I did take them out because the reason that
I took out the lip fillers was just because I
was trying to see if it would fit more roles,
like I wanted to see because I feel like the
big lip filler it doesn't exactly fit like every single
role because a lot of the auditions I would get
would be for like someone kind of like younger or
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like someone who just wouldn't have lip fillers. So I
just got the lip filler removed just to kind of see, like,
you know, where it led me, Like, what are the
roles I got and like still like all the roles
that I'm getting like could have lip film, yeah, like
all everything that I have right now, Like they all
those characters could have lip filler. But I also just
like now when I see photos of myself with like
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the really really big lip filler, like the biggest I
ever were, I don't think that it looks good anymore.
Like there was a point like they my lips have
been bigger than this and looked good, but like when
they were at their biggest, like they didn't look good
at all to me.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It was because how many years ago did the first
season come out?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Like was it those twenty twenty two Oh it came out, Yeah,
But I think the time when I had the big
lip filler was twenty twenty one and we were filming,
and I swear there was like a time like in
between us filming or whatever where I had like the
biggest lips ever. You just kept injecting them, yes, literally
left injecting them, and they just got like so big,
and like now I look back on it and like,
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I really just don't think that those big lips looked good, like,
but I remember at the time, like I don't know
how I had this like lip blindness, but I thought
that it just looked really good and really natural and
looked amazing. But like instead it just.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Got it looked good. I'm not gonna say it look natural.
I can't say that, but it did. I that was
back when lip fillers were like everybody had ridiculous lips
and like it was a thing. And I think it's
iconic for you that you had those, yeah, and euphoria.
It really works too. Total everything's so ridiculous. Yeah, like
even the outfits, like people wear those outfits, yes.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Exactly, stuff like that totally yeah, So I think it
totally worked for that. But what's funny is like when
I was getting my lips filled all those times, like
I didn't think like, oh, this is gonna like really
help my like acting a modeling career and this is
gonna like help me get more followers and stuff. Like
I genuinely just thought that, like I looked way better
with the lip filler, and like now it's like I
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still have lip filler, Like my lips are nowhere close
like than my natural lips. But I just don't know
how big I'll go again, because I don't know. I'm
not obsessed with like the overdone looking.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You never had anything else, just the filler.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
And then I get like botox, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Because I I've definitely done it all and I dissolved,
like I redid my lips. I just did half a syringe.
But I don't even know over the years how many
syringes were really like like, oh my god, I.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Don't swear I've gotten like twenty or like fifteen or
like something crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Oh, I definitely like but I would do my underwriting
and that I do my cheeks and then I would
do my chin. That it always convinced you to do
more when you get in there, you gotta be realstern
and I'm not like that. But dissolving it, I didn't
have a horrible experience. But I saw this thing recently
that they're saying that the filler's not really dissolving the
way we think it is, which I feel like mine
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did like go down, but it someone got like an
MRI or something like that, and it shows all the
fillers over the years, and like her whole face and
the floating filler thing, that's what I had, Like, yeah,
my lips looked like I would have like underneath, like
in the inside where it was like it fell down
and like it just looked so gross.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Right, Yeah, I actually have have been really lucky with
my lip filler. Even though I had like an insane
amount in my lips, It's still like nothing got like
super messed up with it because like clearly I was
able to get it removed and they look normal.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, we don't stretch your lips.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, And I'm like really lucky. But I remember like
the things that people would like say to me. It
would be like to my face, like on the internet
or anything, like you ruined your face. You ruined your face?
Ask you, Oh my god, yes, Like.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
How do you handle the heat?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It was so intense and so insane because like at
the time when Euphoury was like playing on TV and
people were actively watching it, I couldn't like leave my
house at all without people recognizing me. And then people
would constantly say something about my lips. And sometimes it
wouldn't be like me yeah, like sometimes they would be
like those lips are like so awful or whatever, and
(22:49):
like I really don't comprehend why like somebody else's features
or whatever. Fis you that much that you're you know,
and then like on the internet, it was like so crazy,
like people would just go on and on and on
about how it was just the most awful thing they've
ever seen. And it's also that's like another reason why
I got it removed, because like people would just I
(23:10):
even though like I loved it, Like people would just
give me so much shit all anytime I posted anything,
every comment would just lip filler is awful, lip filler
is awful, and you're you look so terrible, and like
I I just like literally couldn't handle it anymore. Like
it was just so hard to have so many yes,
(23:31):
oh my god, yeah, and it made me like really
like question my self worth and like just made it
like really really harsh myself. And I really thought that
like if I got the lip filler removed that people
would suddenly be like, oh, you're so pretty, But instead,
like now I get the comments of like what happened
to your lips? What happened to your lips? And it's
like what they love to you? People want people.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, people are never happy, And I'm sorry that people
are so mean. Like that is really hard and people
just they really truly want to be mean.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Just be because they're jealous and.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Like, I I hate having to acknowledge that because you
want to think that, like why do you care so much?
Like why do other people care so much? But they
people are really mean out a straight jealousy.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But I also because you're successful, That's what it really is.
And not only are you successful, but you're able to
be successful having being able to look however you want.
If you want to have ridiculous lips, you're going to
be able to be in every type of you.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Know, I honestly think that the thing made me more
successful because I think it was super unique, you know,
like it was a unique feature. Yeah, I don't know
what I'm going to do about the lips. I like
kind of I'm trying to see like just how this
kind of natural looking face does for me, But like
I do miss the lips, But then I also think, like,
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am I really just going to keep getting them done
that big like my whole life?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know, like absolutely, who cares?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I don't know, absolutely, But it's kind of like it's, yeah, yeah,
that is.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Not like how it used to be, you know, when
there was no dissolver. The first time I got my
lips done, and I was like, what did I do? Yeah,
at least they didn't offer it to me when I
didn't like you. They were like, just you know, three
months from now, it's not gonna.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Be so bad.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I'm like, Okay, my gosh, Wow, that's crazy. What year
did you first get.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh my god, I was eighteen nineteen. I don't know
if I've been out before that, but like fresh Fresh
to La why Yeah, a girl in the industry took me.
She was like, you need to get your lips done,
and my lips are naturally like like they're like.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, the same. I actually thin when I before I
got lip for I didn't think that I had no lips.
But now when I look back on like pictures of
me from when I was like nineteen or twenty, like
I really had like no lips at all. I didn't
even realize it.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, it's kind of like going back, you know. Yeah,
it's kind of just what it is, like the cycle
of natural. I just can't wait for flat booties to
come back and style because it's like it's a struggle
for me. Everyone's like, you're so funny, and I'm like, yeah,
that's because I have a flat ass. I have to
be funny for that to make up.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's a real thing that you're If you don't have
an ass, you should be funny. Yeah, because guys, if
you make him giggle, you know, should we ryan? Should
we do the what?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
It's true? You a flat ass.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Someone says, I cut this guy's dick with my teeth,
and now he won't leave me alone. I twenty two females,
recently went over to this guy's house for a hookup.
We met him bumble, and we hit it off. I
have a sensitive gag reflex, and I told him I
can't give head, as I might puke on him. I
also have weirdly sharp teeth, so it's risking a lot.
(27:09):
He said that he didn't care and really pushed me
to give him head. I caved, and the next thing
I knew, I was gagging and tasted blood and I
pulled back and there was a few teethmarks and a
lot of blood. I got dressed and ran out quickly.
It's been a week and he keeps wanting to hang
out and won't stop calling. He says he doesn't care
that mistakes happen. Is it weird? Do you think he
(27:29):
has a blood kink? What do I tell him?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
So?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Wow, it's like that's really interesting, really deep.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Hum.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I would probably like, if I liked the guy like
at all, I would probably just be like, okay, like,
I'm sorry that that happened. I'll try to do that again. Yeah,
I just go, you're so chill.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I think, yeah, accidents happened. I think she's just obviously
more embarrassed than you know. I saw this thing. It
was like ninety nine percent of the time, only one
percent of your thoughts are actually what the problem is? Yea,
So it was something like that. But here's a good example.
I think that this guy legit doesn't care. Yeah, and
I don't know, a blood kink sounds ridiculous, But I
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mean maybe I think he's trying to make her feel good.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I think that maybe like he just actually genuinely understood
it was an accent, but he could have actually just
been like, oh, yeah, like you obviously didn't purposely do
that to me, and that was just an accident. I
don't think it's like a blood king. I don't know.
I feel like it would have gone a bit differently
if you just had a yeah, like bite harder, yeah,
or like or he would have been like, can you
(28:41):
touch the blood and rub it on yourself? Please? Please?
I can't.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Anyways, I could go deep with this. If he had
a blood kink, then maybe like he'd be into period sex.
I think someone was like a blood kink. Okay. The
next one is polyculee. Right, that's what it's called poly cute.
I might have destroyed a polycule with my horny antics.
A polyculee. Do you know what that is? Because I
(29:07):
had to look at it, I guess it's a group.
It's not obviously it's like polyamorous, but it's like a
group of people that are dating. So let's see. I'm
twenty seven male, recently joined a poly dating app and
matched with a thirty six year old woman that's married,
that was recently in a polycule with three other people.
(29:27):
We went out for drinks and ended up at her
place while her husband was out of town. She told
me that everything was okay and that she was dating solo.
A few hours after that, I left her home and
I got a call from a random number. It was
her husband on a group call with the rest of
the polycule. That's interesting. It turns out they were on
(29:49):
a dating break and the thirty six year old woman
wasn't supposed to be going out. The husband wants me
to meet the rest of the group and talk things out.
Should I just ghost her and just forget about it
or should I talk to them and explain myself. I
feel bad as I help this woman cheat on her
husband and the group. I mean, no, that's on her.
(30:10):
That woman has.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I think totally, Yeah, he has no issues at all.
I feel like he should stop answering the calls from
random numbers, Like I just I don't know where that's
really going to get him. And I can't imagine joining
a polycule that doesn't That's just not the way that
I date at all. But there's some really interesting people
(30:33):
out there that, like I want to be married, but
then also dating other people, and that's just pretty excuse
to cheat.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think these people actually have cheating fetishes, which no
one wants to talk about. I've talked about it before,
and I think that that's a real thing, Like it's
cheating's a fetish, it's an addiction. Like people can be
addicted to drugs, whatever, people can be addicted to cheating.
And I think this because sometimes you're just like, why
can't you get it right? You have? How many more
people were part of this group? I don't know three
(31:00):
other people? Yeah, you have more than enough people. Do
you really need a fourth person to come?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I just can't imagine, like, because what I experience in
my dating life is like I have one boyfriend that
I'm like deeply in love with, and I don't want
to be anywhere near anyone else. I can't imagine wanting
to have multiple partners like that just would not be
fun to me at all.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Not to like like give you anxiety, But you don't
ever feel like because he's in the music industry that
you get nervous about.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I do get nervous about that. But then at the
same time, like he has like you know, girls that
come to a show, But then like I have like
a million dudes like in my dms that like if
I were to be like that, I could like respond
to me. But like, because we both have people that
do try to talk to us in that way, we
kind of trust each other more because like we both
(31:53):
can resist it, and like, yeah, I really I don't
worry about him at all, Like I don't worry this.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Get married too married. I have like a good feeling
about him.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Really work out, definitely, I will. Yeah, And I just
completely trust him. I've never trusted a man so much
in my life.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
You guys are gonna get married, Yeah, I really really
want to. I can't wait. It's going to be a
very unique way.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I actually talk about getting married like constantly. Just do it.
Yeah exactly, I say.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I mean I say, get married right away. Yeah, but
that's like bad advice.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Have you ever been married?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I've been married three times, three times. I know
I talk a lot about it because everyone has the
same reaction. But I love being married, and I think
it brings a different level and like it feels different
when you say my husband, Like I know, it's like
a stupid but for you to be like that's.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
My you know, let me call my husband, Like yes,
I know, that's like my dream and like I never
really felt that way before. But I just want to
call my husband because like, boyfriend doesn't cut okay, married,
tell him. We talk about it. We found places. We
found this place called one hour Marriage where you can
go there and you can get married an hour. Yeah yeah,
(33:04):
I mean in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, you would have to go all the way to Vegas,
but they do have the time slots and stuff. You
should text them right after this and be like, I
really I'm very yes, yes, I really want I'm reading
for you. I'm gonna get a DM and you're gonna
be like.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I got married, I hope. So that's my dream.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Do you want any to chat about anything else or
like plug anything?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Watch out for my new movie called The French Italian
and also my new movie Blood Barn. They're not fully
out yet, but they will be out and they're gonna
be great. And then watch out on my Instagram for
more announcements of different things that I'm going to be in.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
No, fashion Week, you're not doing fast. I don't mean
it's just I know you said your nets at a
lot of effort possibly, but we'll say you should do it.
I mean stuff will be there and force you're gonna
be there. Yeah, yeah, just to do stupid ship. There's
always like parties and it's fun for people like me
because yeah, I just go to ship like okay, fine,
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then I get dressed up.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I actually really am obsessed with the way that, like,
I feel like every year more and more girls from
the porn industry are like getting involved in like more
maztas and I absolutely love it, Like I love to
see that, like you're going to fashion Week and like
all these things. Like I really believe that, like the
adult industry just should be like I just think that
(34:23):
more girls should be able to move on, you know, yes,
everyone should be able to just move on and do
like anything.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I I agree, and I think that it actually is
getting a little bit more accepting. And honestly because of
Lana Roads, like she I feel she really has opened
up that door for a lot of people and then
people like you, and like there's so many people that
have really just like opened up that door. And I
have never had a bad experience in the means, like
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besides like people working for me that want to just
like steal and like dip your stuff. But that's just
with anything. I've always been really well respected. I've always
had really nice people. I've always had people that are like,
thank you so much for coming. Like I think people
think that I get shot one and it's like hard
for me out.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
There, but it's not not at all, Like it just
makes you like unique to come from the adult industry,
Like it makes you like just like different.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You should a poster girl for them, Like really, that's
so your like style they used Lana, should get them
up that would you have an agent?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah? I do have an agent. Should have them?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, that would be cool.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Do their next line? Yeah, and like off way like
I feel or maybe not off way. I'm just trying
to get something.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Like anybody with like interesting creative I'm always interested in
working with.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
For sure, poster girl. It's a little out there, a
little a little revealing. All right, guys, I can't wait
for you guys to check this out. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Heartbreakers songs same song,
Straw Media.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello, heartbreakers. I hope you all are doing good. I'm
really excited today because I get to interview Chloe Cherry.
I'm so happy. Steph actually, my makeup artist said, good
friend actually made this connection so well, I know you.
I just was too scared to ask, you know, so
(00:41):
Steph actually was like you got to interview her stuff.
I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yes, I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I haven't had and I don't, like I'm not like
against talking about the industry, of course, but like I
just don't. I feel like there's a million podcasts, so
I've like.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, it's like there literally are, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So many, Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, I find that like when I first like got
out of the industry and went on podcasts, all anybody
wanted to talk about was the porn industry, even though
I had just done an entire HBO show and like
done all these movies and like done all this stuff,
and like all anyone wanted to talk about was the industry.
And like, I'm sure you know how annoying it is.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
No, for sure, it's annoying. I Mean the only thing
that I like think I haven't talked to somebody about
or like really heard about is like the transition. Oh yeah,
and like cause like one of my questions actually is
it is like I've had girls in the industry be like, oh,
I got into the industry so I can go mainstream,
and I'm like, you understand that that's really super rare
and actually harder.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I mean I don't know how it is to do
it without the industry, but yeah, I feel like it's
one hundred times harder, like a yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, really hard. I remember I didn't get into the
porn industry thinking I would go into mainstream. I thought
I'd get into the porn industry like make money. Yeah,
of course I.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Actually said that though, because everyone's always like I just
love suck so much, like just.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Say it's really money. Yeah exactly. I've had so many
discussions with so many girls about how like that industry
the only reason anybody does it is for money, Like
no one cares, like literally there's money, and even the
men don't care about this. A, no, of course they don't.
They don't at all.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Clothes.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, it's like completely just about the money, because you
do make like way more money than you would at
like any other kind of like entry level job where
you don't need like a degree or something.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So yeah, and there's a bunch of hurry up and wait,
it's not like you really have to like do too much.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
From my experience, totally exactly. Yeah, but how did you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Then get into acting?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
If it was literally like I it was so random,
and I'm so lucky that I had this experience. But
I had been in the industry from like two thoy
fifteen to like twenty nineteen, and then in like twenty nineteen,
I decided that I wanted to quit, and like I
really didn't know what I was going to do. Like
(02:57):
I thought I was going to like go back to college,
like do something, because like I just knew that, like
I really really didn't want to be in the porn industry, which.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Not even want to do the subscription site.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I was doing that that was like fine for me
for a little bit, just to kind of like transition me,
you know, And I think that was like all I
was doing. And I was living with my family back
in Pennsylvania because I was like didn't feel like dealing
with like paying la rent and all that stuff. But
I just wanted to like kind of transition and I
(03:27):
was genuinely thinking of like going back to college, and
I was literally like taking like online courses, like I
was taking like medical courses.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Like I was gonna get into like the medical industry.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah. Yeah, I was just trying like anything I could
because I really wanted. Something that I really hated about
the porn industry was that I never felt like I
had this like just real job, you know, because it
felt like it was something that like anybody could do
with no skill, anybody could do it, and like it
wasn't always like guaranteed money, you know, Like for me personally,
(03:58):
it was a very unstable industr to be in and
like didn't make me feel like confident with myself or anything.
So like I just knew that, like I wanted to
go back to school, so that way, by the time
I was like thirty, I would be like fully out
of the industry and doing something that I was actually
like really proud of. Yeah, And I was still doing
like social media and stuff because I really like social
(04:19):
media and just kind of like being on the Internet.
And one day this casting company like contacts me through
my DMS and they're like, hey, will you audition for
the show Euphoria, and when I saw it, I was like, oh,
that's completely just like a phishing scam or.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Like season one was already out.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, season one was already out, yeah, And I had
seen it and I liked it, And I saw this
DM and I was like, that's weird, Like there's no
way that they actually want me to audition for you
for it.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Like there's no way.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Scared, I was, yeah, but I also just thought it
was fake. And then like I got an email that
said like, hey, we want you to audition for this show.
And I literally responded back to one of the emails
because they like kept emailing me, and I was like, no,
like I'm not interesting because I genuinely thought it was fake,
Like I thought it was a scam because like who
on earth would ever expect to have a show contact you.
(05:08):
That's just not Yeah, things good, that's true. I never
thought about that. And then they emailed me back and
they were like are you sure, like the director really
wants to see your tape and I was like, okay, fine,
Like if I'm just sending it a self tape, I
guess that's not gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Hurt me that So they were like, please record yourself
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah self tape.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah. And then they sent me a script. They were
like they literally sent me a scene from like another
movie and they wanted me to like recreate it. So
then I did that and I sent it in and
I was like, okay, whatever, like I don't know, we'll
see what this is. And they were like, we really
like it. Will you come in for the callback on
like Thursday And it was like Monday, and I was like, no,
I'm in Pennsylvania. They come to this callback and at
(05:49):
that time, like I still wasn't sure if it was
a real thing.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
They like that about you, probably this girl thinks she's
too good.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And they yeah, I mean I just thought it just
seems like that's never happen ever really, anyone's just been
like contacted to be on a TV show like that.
So then I they were like come in for the
callback and they were like, oh, that's fine, we'll just
fly you out and I was like okay. And then
literally the next day I was like on a flight
to la and like flew there and like did the
(06:16):
callback and then I had like a good feeling about it.
I don't know what it was. It's like a feeling
that like I haven't so yeah something. I just had
a feeling that like I was going to get it.
And then I did get it, and I was like wow,
like this just like it just made sense in the moment,
(06:36):
like for some reason, because it was also like I
was looking for a way to get out of the industry,
and like it just really worked out. I was so lucky.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I just see your good karma.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
That's yeah what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean when I was watching, of course, I loved
you for you and I when I saw it, I
started watching as soon as season two came out. I
was one of those people like it's dropping today. And
then when I saw it, I was like, no way,
that's her because I remember you obviously industry and I
was like no way, and I googled it and it
popped up that it was you, and I was like
wait what because they're acting was so good, like I
(07:08):
remember when you put the needle in the leg and
I was just like, no, that was too good, Like
I really genuine I was like, I just never not
that I didn't see you doing that, because I feel
like you're definitely someone that wasn't meant for the adult industry,
and I don't know that in a mean way.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Actually no, Yeah, but like I completely agree, But like,
are that many people really like meant for it, like
to really like stay in it and not be their hole?
I think so, Yeah, I guess there are some. I
think there's a.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Lot of people that that is like, and I think
that it's great and an empowering too, but I think
that's their calling in life.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
That's really the other ways more people would because I
remember like being in the industry and from like probably
like my first year and on, I was always like
trying to find some way out. But like you kind
of at least my experience was like I felt like
I kind of like got trapped in it, where like
suddenly I like had a lease on an apartment in
LA and like I just had.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
My wardrobe every time.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, and like suddenly I had like all these bills
that I had to pay and my only income was
the porn industry. And then I like, and it's also
impossible to be like a porn star and then just
go out and get like literally any job, like even
if it was like a Chipotle or like any job
that like people say is like easy for young people
to get Like nobody wants to hire like a twenty
(08:28):
one year old who's never had a real job.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, like they really don't history exactly. I think about
that often with myself. I'm like I don't really have
to work history for.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Literally, and that's like what I'm going to do, so
like totally and that's like why I was going to
like go to college or do something and do anything
that I could.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, because like such a like a good career right now.
But I mean I feel like you're just smart and
you should do that just like expand your brain. Yeah,
you know, even if you don't get the actual degree.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, but what do you do?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Like what's what are you working on? Now?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Are you working right now? I'm working on.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I have like I do like a lot of like
indie movies, like a lot of them, and I've done
seven so far, and then I have like three more
that I'm cast in that like we're kind of just
waiting for it to like get fully put together so
we can start so hopefully like this coming fall, I'll
be shooting that. And then yeah, I have more stuff
(09:27):
that I can't talk about, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
True, I have like the more stuff can you do
commercials instead?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, I do like a lot of brand deals and
that kind of stuff, and yeah, that's really cool. I
used to do like a little bit of fashion stuff,
but I haven't done that in a while. That's like
such an interesting world to me, Like the runway modeling
and stuff like. That's also like a world that like
I it's impossible to be like thin enough, you know,
like tall enough, because I'm tall, but I'm still not
(09:55):
even tall enough for that, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But I know they aren't like legit six foot yes exactly.
They do really want them a hundred pounds. But you
call the cover of Galore.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Right, Yeah, I did do Galore. Yeah, I've done a
bunch of covers actually. But the runway modeling, I remember,
like because in the adult industry I always felt very
tall and like thin, and then in the modeling industry,
like in runway, I felt like a circle. Like I
felt like I was literally like a circle, and you
feel so fat and sure because everyone's like, yeah, like
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six feet tall and under.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Pounds, I know. And then and then yeah, when they
put the outfits on you and it's and it's a
double zero and it's you know, and you're like, why'd
you send that? You know, I like not, Yeah, nobody can.
It's just ridiculous they I don't know why they do
that or like, you know, but you're just so unique
looking and so pretty you should do more than you
should do like Gucci or like something.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, that is.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Always like the goal, but it's kind of like, at
least in the side of the industry I'm in, like
it kind of works where like if you have like
a project out, then like brands like that want to
work with you. If I have a show out or
a movie out, then like me doing a shoot with them,
like it promotes their brand through the movie and stuff, and.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's all kind of cross promotion. Yeah, exactly, are you
guys working on season three or you're not allowed to
say that.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I can't say, Okay, but they are making season three.
I can say that, but I can't say like who
is involved and everything, but they are making it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Zadea is born on the same day as me. Oh wow,
I know everybody's birthday, like yours is August twenty three,
and happy birthday by anything, But.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I really don't know because my boyfriend's out of town
and like I don't know what else to do. I
don't know. It feels weird to like have like a
party or like a dinner without him, So like I
feel like I will just kind of decide on the
day and then when he's back, I'll like do like
something with my friends and him. So nice.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I was gonna ask you because obviously this podcast is
about dating, yes, and I was gonna ask to talk
about dating.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You are nice.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I was gonna ask like, was it hard? Because how
long have you been with your boyfriend?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Was I've been with him only for five months.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Or six months? Has it been hard dating mainstream? Like
do you get unique type of guys?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So when I was like in the porn industry, I
had like one boyfriend through the whole industry. He wasn't
in the industry, but like he was like an artist,
so like he kind of thought it was like interesting
or whatever. And like I had that boyfriend, and then
I was like single for a while and I had
like on and off like situationship things. And for the
longest time, I felt like so many guys like to me,
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it felt like no guy was like interested in a relationship,
Like they were all interested in like hanging out, but
not like an actual relationship, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Was it like was it mainstream people?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Was Yeah, yeah, it was only I mean I actually
literally never had anything with anyone in the porn industry.
I've never like hooked up with them in like person, Like.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't anything that I have, nobody does that. People
would do that I think are like no offense to them.
And I gotta be careful talking about the industry, but
I think that people who go to set and sleep
with the like whoever their talent is and then want
to sleep But I just think it's weird, be like,
well that makes total sense. They just had sex.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I know. I think it's so I don't get it
at all. And like I never had like any even
the most vague feelings for anyone in that industry. But
like I hear face, I found like just people that
were yeah, like in mainstream, we're just kind of in
like mainstream is like huge, like there's so many you
can be like a photographer, like a million things behind
the scenes, and like I would meet a lot of
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people that way or people that were artists in some way,
and like I would just kind of like date around
for a while. But like nobody like really wanted, I mean,
and then I think also like maybe I didn't like
anybody enough to actually like give them my full self,
you know, like I would always end up like playing
games with people and just like not responding. Like we were.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Talking about the toxic one.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, like I would just be like, oh, well, he
didn't respond fast enough to me, so I'm just gonna
not respond to him or something. Always get yeah, And
like with my boyfriend now, like we've never had a
day that was like that, like, oh, like he's not
responding or something, and like.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
What does he do.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
He's a musician. He's in a band, and he's like
really busy, like constantly playing shows, and he's always out
of town, which is like hard. But then at the
same time, it's like I spend like every moment with
him when he is in town. Then when I leave town,
I like am just you know, doing my own things.
So like in a way, it like works, like we
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make it work.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
How is he young old?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He's thirty six, he's like ten years older than that.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I feel like that's a good age.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's a really good age. Like I wouldn't want to
I didn't realize this, but that's like the exact age
I want to be dating. Like, I don't want to
do anyone any younger.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I don't want to be with anybody too old just
because yeah, they get to be like a little boring
and a little too controlling totally, and then I don't
want too young because of just the immaturity.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yes, exactly, Like I don't really want to date somebody
especially like I'm like twenty six almost twenty seven, Like
I'm not going to date somebody who's like twenty three.
But I'm also not going to date somebody who's like
fifty three.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So like, yeah, I feel like, yeah, you've never dated
an old guy.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I've never dated like an old guy never ever.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I you know, no offense, and I don't know if
it's offensive, but I would have taken you for someone
that has always like you just seem so mature. So
it's like I would have taken always been with older.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I've like had like not even like a flink kind
of just like a you know, when you have like
a friendship with somebody where like they have a crush
on you or something with a bunch of older guys
actually like with like men in like their fifties or whatever,
where like we're like friends, but like they're like in
love with me. I've had that a couple.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You never had a sugar daddy?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
No, I never had like a real sugar daddy. I
literally like like you said earlier, like I didn't fit
in the industry, Like I genuinely do not know how
to navigate, Like oh yeah in history, Like I don't know,
Like what how do you even find a sugar daddy?
Like what do you ease?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
They just like they just I don't know. They just
like come to you, you'll be out and they just yeuck.
I'm crazy, But I don't know. That isn't it's that's exhausting. Yeah,
But what's your favorite date or do you have like
a horrible date that you went on.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That were like, oh my god. One time. I this
was back in like twenty twenty or twenty twenty one
or something. I met this girl who I really got
along with, and then she was like, I want to
set you up with this guy I know. And she
sets me up with this guy that she knows, and
he's like, I forget what his deal was. But then
we go out and he was like, I don't know
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like you know those I feel like I never meet them.
I only see them like on the internet, those like
kind of like really right wing guys that like really
like guns and.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Like yeah, like really Texas time.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Really Texas is a great way to play. Yeah, and uh.
And at first I was like, I was like very
single at the time, and I wasn't interested in anyone.
So I was like, Okay, I'll just go on this
date and meet this guy. And he was just so
like you know those guys that just say things like
well women, women shouldn't or like you know, yeah, and
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like they don't even need to be and it's just
was so strange. And then he took me back to
his place because he wanted to show me his guns.
He was like, yeah, I have a gun collection. Scared
and went back to his place and to see his
gun collection, and I'm not even kidding. He had like
this cabinet that had like a hundred guns in it,
like so many guns. It was just packed with guns.
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And that was the weirdest date I've been on.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That that is weird, and that's honestly, I'd be really scared.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, And I remember being like okay.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And he were like I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Home, or yeah, then I left and then I never
talked to Hi about it again. Yeah, I was just like,
I don't know why. I just thought it would be
interesting to see the guns. And I was just like,
I'm just never going to talk to this guy.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, you just have a curious mind.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yes, literally.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
This might get me in trouble, but yeah, you know
the same lip fast die pretty. I always say that
I like to get yourself in a bad situation. Why
not I'd rather die like that having fun. Yeah, I
know you wanted to. I loved your lip fillers, but
did you take them out or I know.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah I did take them out because the reason that
I took out the lip fillers was just because I
was trying to see if it would fit more roles,
like I wanted to see because I feel like the
big lip filler it doesn't exactly fit like every single
role because a lot of the auditions I would get
would be for like someone kind of like younger or
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like someone who just wouldn't have lip fillers. So I
just got the lip filler removed just to kind of see, like,
you know, where it led me, Like, what are the
roles I got and like still like all the roles
that I'm getting like could have lip film, yeah, like
all everything that I have right now, Like they all
those characters could have lip filler. But I also just
like now when I see photos of myself with like
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the really really big lip filler, like the biggest I
ever were, I don't think that it looks good anymore.
Like there was a point like they my lips have
been bigger than this and looked good, but like when
they were at their biggest, like they didn't look good
at all to me.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It was because how many years ago did the first
season come out?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Like was it those twenty twenty two Oh it came out, Yeah,
But I think the time when I had the big
lip filler was twenty twenty one and we were filming,
and I swear there was like a time like in
between us filming or whatever where I had like the
biggest lips ever. You just kept injecting them, yes, literally
left injecting them, and they just got like so big,
and like now I look back on it and like,
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I really just don't think that those big lips looked good, like,
but I remember at the time, like I don't know
how I had this like lip blindness, but I thought
that it just looked really good and really natural and
looked amazing. But like instead it just.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Got it looked good. I'm not gonna say it look natural.
I can't say that, but it did. I that was
back when lip fillers were like everybody had ridiculous lips
and like it was a thing. And I think it's
iconic for you that you had those, yeah, and euphoria.
It really works too. Total everything's so ridiculous. Yeah, like
even the outfits, like people wear those outfits, yes.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Exactly, stuff like that totally yeah, So I think it
totally worked for that. But what's funny is like when
I was getting my lips filled all those times, like
I didn't think like, oh, this is gonna like really
help my like acting a modeling career and this is
gonna like help me get more followers and stuff. Like
I genuinely just thought that, like I looked way better
with the lip filler, and like now it's like I
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still have lip filler, Like my lips are nowhere close
like than my natural lips. But I just don't know
how big I'll go again, because I don't know. I'm
not obsessed with like the overdone looking.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You never had anything else, just the filler.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
And then I get like botox, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Because I I've definitely done it all and I dissolved,
like I redid my lips. I just did half a syringe.
But I don't even know over the years how many
syringes were really like like, oh my god, I.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Don't swear I've gotten like twenty or like fifteen or
like something crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Oh, I definitely like but I would do my underwriting
and that I do my cheeks and then I would
do my chin. That it always convinced you to do
more when you get in there, you gotta be realstern
and I'm not like that. But dissolving it, I didn't
have a horrible experience. But I saw this thing recently
that they're saying that the filler's not really dissolving the
way we think it is, which I feel like mine
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did like go down, but it someone got like an
MRI or something like that, and it shows all the
fillers over the years, and like her whole face and
the floating filler thing, that's what I had, Like, yeah,
my lips looked like I would have like underneath, like
in the inside where it was like it fell down
and like it just looked so gross.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Right, Yeah, I actually have have been really lucky with
my lip filler. Even though I had like an insane
amount in my lips, It's still like nothing got like
super messed up with it because like clearly I was
able to get it removed and they look normal.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, we don't stretch your lips.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, And I'm like really lucky. But I remember like
the things that people would like say to me. It
would be like to my face, like on the internet
or anything, like you ruined your face. You ruined your face?
Ask you, Oh my god, yes, Like.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
How do you handle the heat?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It was so intense and so insane because like at
the time when Euphoury was like playing on TV and
people were actively watching it, I couldn't like leave my
house at all without people recognizing me. And then people
would constantly say something about my lips. And sometimes it
wouldn't be like me yeah, like sometimes they would be
like those lips are like so awful or whatever, and
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like I really don't comprehend why like somebody else's features
or whatever. Fis you that much that you're you know,
and then like on the internet, it was like so crazy,
like people would just go on and on and on
about how it was just the most awful thing they've
ever seen. And it's also that's like another reason why
I got it removed, because like people would just I
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even though like I loved it, Like people would just
give me so much shit all anytime I posted anything,
every comment would just lip filler is awful, lip filler
is awful, and you're you look so terrible, and like
I I just like literally couldn't handle it anymore. Like
it was just so hard to have so many yes,
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oh my god, yeah, and it made me like really
like question my self worth and like just made it
like really really harsh myself. And I really thought that
like if I got the lip filler removed that people
would suddenly be like, oh, you're so pretty, But instead,
like now I get the comments of like what happened
to your lips? What happened to your lips? And it's
like what they love to you? People want people.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, people are never happy, And I'm sorry that people
are so mean. Like that is really hard and people
just they really truly want to be mean.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Just be because they're jealous and.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Like, I I hate having to acknowledge that because you
want to think that, like why do you care so much?
Like why do other people care so much? But they
people are really mean out a straight jealousy.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But I also because you're successful, That's what it really is.
And not only are you successful, but you're able to
be successful having being able to look however you want.
If you want to have ridiculous lips, you're going to
be able to be in every type of you.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Know, I honestly think that the thing made me more
successful because I think it was super unique, you know,
like it was a unique feature. Yeah, I don't know
what I'm going to do about the lips. I like
kind of I'm trying to see like just how this
kind of natural looking face does for me, But like
I do miss the lips, But then I also think, like,
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am I really just going to keep getting them done
that big like my whole life?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know, like absolutely, who cares?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I don't know, absolutely, But it's kind of like it's, yeah, yeah,
that is.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Not like how it used to be, you know, when
there was no dissolver. The first time I got my
lips done, and I was like, what did I do? Yeah,
at least they didn't offer it to me when I
didn't like you. They were like, just you know, three
months from now, it's not gonna.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Be so bad.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I'm like, Okay, my gosh, Wow, that's crazy. What year
did you first get.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh my god, I was eighteen nineteen. I don't know
if I've been out before that, but like fresh Fresh
to La why Yeah, a girl in the industry took me.
She was like, you need to get your lips done,
and my lips are naturally like like they're like.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, the same. I actually thin when I before I
got lip for I didn't think that I had no lips.
But now when I look back on like pictures of
me from when I was like nineteen or twenty, like
I really had like no lips at all. I didn't
even realize it.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, it's kind of like going back, you know. Yeah,
it's kind of just what it is, like the cycle
of natural. I just can't wait for flat booties to
come back and style because it's like it's a struggle
for me. Everyone's like, you're so funny, and I'm like, yeah,
that's because I have a flat ass. I have to
be funny for that to make up.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's a real thing that you're If you don't have
an ass, you should be funny. Yeah, because guys, if
you make him giggle, you know, should we ryan? Should
we do the what?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
It's true? You a flat ass.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Someone says, I cut this guy's dick with my teeth,
and now he won't leave me alone. I twenty two females,
recently went over to this guy's house for a hookup.
We met him bumble, and we hit it off. I
have a sensitive gag reflex, and I told him I
can't give head, as I might puke on him. I
also have weirdly sharp teeth, so it's risking a lot.
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He said that he didn't care and really pushed me
to give him head. I caved, and the next thing
I knew, I was gagging and tasted blood and I
pulled back and there was a few teethmarks and a
lot of blood. I got dressed and ran out quickly.
It's been a week and he keeps wanting to hang
out and won't stop calling. He says he doesn't care
that mistakes happen. Is it weird? Do you think he
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has a blood kink? What do I tell him?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
So?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Wow, it's like that's really interesting, really deep.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Hum.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I would probably like, if I liked the guy like
at all, I would probably just be like, okay, like,
I'm sorry that that happened. I'll try to do that again. Yeah,
I just go, you're so chill.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I think, yeah, accidents happened. I think she's just obviously
more embarrassed than you know. I saw this thing. It
was like ninety nine percent of the time, only one
percent of your thoughts are actually what the problem is? Yea,
So it was something like that. But here's a good example.
I think that this guy legit doesn't care. Yeah, and
I don't know, a blood kink sounds ridiculous, But I
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mean maybe I think he's trying to make her feel good.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I think that maybe like he just actually genuinely understood
it was an accent, but he could have actually just
been like, oh, yeah, like you obviously didn't purposely do
that to me, and that was just an accident. I
don't think it's like a blood king. I don't know.
I feel like it would have gone a bit differently
if you just had a yeah, like bite harder, yeah,
or like or he would have been like, can you
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touch the blood and rub it on yourself? Please? Please?
I can't.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Anyways, I could go deep with this. If he had
a blood kink, then maybe like he'd be into period sex.
I think someone was like a blood kink. Okay. The
next one is polyculee. Right, that's what it's called poly cute.
I might have destroyed a polycule with my horny antics.
A polyculee. Do you know what that is? Because I
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had to look at it, I guess it's a group.
It's not obviously it's like polyamorous, but it's like a
group of people that are dating. So let's see. I'm
twenty seven male, recently joined a poly dating app and
matched with a thirty six year old woman that's married,
that was recently in a polycule with three other people.
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We went out for drinks and ended up at her
place while her husband was out of town. She told
me that everything was okay and that she was dating solo.
A few hours after that, I left her home and
I got a call from a random number. It was
her husband on a group call with the rest of
the polycule. That's interesting. It turns out they were on
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a dating break and the thirty six year old woman
wasn't supposed to be going out. The husband wants me
to meet the rest of the group and talk things out.
Should I just ghost her and just forget about it
or should I talk to them and explain myself. I
feel bad as I help this woman cheat on her
husband and the group. I mean, no, that's on her.
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That woman has.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I think totally, Yeah, he has no issues at all.
I feel like he should stop answering the calls from
random numbers, Like I just I don't know where that's
really going to get him. And I can't imagine joining
a polycule that doesn't That's just not the way that
I date at all. But there's some really interesting people
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out there that, like I want to be married, but
then also dating other people, and that's just pretty excuse
to cheat.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think these people actually have cheating fetishes, which no
one wants to talk about. I've talked about it before,
and I think that that's a real thing, Like it's
cheating's a fetish, it's an addiction. Like people can be
addicted to drugs, whatever, people can be addicted to cheating.
And I think this because sometimes you're just like, why
can't you get it right? You have? How many more
people were part of this group? I don't know three
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other people? Yeah, you have more than enough people. Do
you really need a fourth person to come?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I just can't imagine, like, because what I experience in
my dating life is like I have one boyfriend that
I'm like deeply in love with, and I don't want
to be anywhere near anyone else. I can't imagine wanting
to have multiple partners like that just would not be
fun to me at all.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Not to like like give you anxiety, But you don't
ever feel like because he's in the music industry that
you get nervous about.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I do get nervous about that. But then at the
same time, like he has like you know, girls that
come to a show, But then like I have like
a million dudes like in my dms that like if
I were to be like that, I could like respond
to me. But like, because we both have people that
do try to talk to us in that way, we
kind of trust each other more because like we both
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can resist it, and like, yeah, I really I don't
worry about him at all, Like I don't worry this.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Get married too married. I have like a good feeling
about him.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Really work out, definitely, I will. Yeah, And I just
completely trust him. I've never trusted a man so much
in my life.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
You guys are gonna get married, Yeah, I really really
want to. I can't wait. It's going to be a
very unique way.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I actually talk about getting married like constantly. Just do it.
Yeah exactly, I say.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I mean I say, get married right away. Yeah, but
that's like bad advice.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Have you ever been married?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I've been married three times, three times. I know
I talk a lot about it because everyone has the
same reaction. But I love being married, and I think
it brings a different level and like it feels different
when you say my husband, Like I know, it's like
a stupid but for you to be like that's.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
My you know, let me call my husband, Like yes,
I know, that's like my dream and like I never
really felt that way before. But I just want to
call my husband because like, boyfriend doesn't cut okay, married,
tell him. We talk about it. We found places. We
found this place called one hour Marriage where you can
go there and you can get married an hour. Yeah yeah,
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I mean in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, you would have to go all the way to Vegas,
but they do have the time slots and stuff. You
should text them right after this and be like, I
really I'm very yes, yes, I really want I'm reading
for you. I'm gonna get a DM and you're gonna
be like.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I got married, I hope. So that's my dream.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Do you want any to chat about anything else or
like plug anything?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Watch out for my new movie called The French Italian
and also my new movie Blood Barn. They're not fully
out yet, but they will be out and they're gonna
be great. And then watch out on my Instagram for
more announcements of different things that I'm going to be in.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
No, fashion Week, you're not doing fast. I don't mean
it's just I know you said your nets at a
lot of effort possibly, but we'll say you should do it.
I mean stuff will be there and force you're gonna
be there. Yeah, yeah, just to do stupid ship. There's
always like parties and it's fun for people like me
because yeah, I just go to ship like okay, fine,
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then I get dressed up.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I actually really am obsessed with the way that, like,
I feel like every year more and more girls from
the porn industry are like getting involved in like more
maztas and I absolutely love it, Like I love to
see that, like you're going to fashion Week and like
all these things. Like I really believe that, like the
adult industry just should be like I just think that
(34:23):
more girls should be able to move on, you know, yes,
everyone should be able to just move on and do
like anything.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I I agree, and I think that it actually is
getting a little bit more accepting. And honestly because of
Lana Roads, like she I feel she really has opened
up that door for a lot of people and then
people like you, and like there's so many people that
have really just like opened up that door. And I
have never had a bad experience in the means, like
(34:50):
besides like people working for me that want to just
like steal and like dip your stuff. But that's just
with anything. I've always been really well respected. I've always
had really nice people. I've always had people that are like,
thank you so much for coming. Like I think people
think that I get shot one and it's like hard
for me out.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
There, but it's not not at all, Like it just
makes you like unique to come from the adult industry,
Like it makes you like just like different.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You should a poster girl for them, Like really, that's
so your like style they used Lana, should get them
up that would you have an agent?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah? I do have an agent. Should have them?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, that would be cool.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Do their next line? Yeah, and like off way like
I feel or maybe not off way. I'm just trying
to get something.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Like anybody with like interesting creative I'm always interested in
working with.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
For sure, poster girl. It's a little out there, a
little a little revealing. All right, guys, I can't wait
for you guys to check this out. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
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