October 10, 2025 • 30 mins
We explore how to turn vague goals into clear maps, protect energy with simple systems, and finish big moments strong on the course and at work. Dr. Pat shares practical tools: nine before nine, visualization, focused recovery, and how to use AI without losing your judgment.
• Women in business and the seaworthy boat mindset
• Mapping goals to real desires, not borrowed outcomes
• Keeping plans simple and “subject to change”
• Life integration across work, health and relationships
• Protecting energy and avoiding empathy hangovers
• Nine before nine daily structure and habit building
• AI as a concise tool, not a mental crutch
• Marathon prep: tissue release, extensors, pacing cues
• Visualization, self-talk and fueling for endurance
• Living fully as freedom built on discipline
Reach Dr. Pat on LinkedIn or visit healthteamnetwork.com
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Heather (00:12):
Welcome to Heather Ewing V CRE rundown.
Today from lovely New York, Ihave Dr.
Pat Bulloon.
She is none other than amindset mastery expert, both for
high-achieving professionalsand also for those athletes.
So personally, as a marathoner,I can't wait to talk to her
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about this and how we can allunlevel our careers and lives.
Dr.
Pat, welcome.
Dr. Pat (00:39):
Thank you very much.
I'm really glad to be here.
And I didn't know that.
So that's really that's reallyquite cool.
Cause I've worked marathons, Iprimarily the Boston Marathon,
and more than a few times.
So I have a lot of observationsabout that.
Heather (00:51):
Oh, that's fantastic.
And I finally ran it last year.
So after several attempts thatI hadn't made, I got it in last
year, which was tremendous.
So awesome.
Yeah, we'll have to dive intothat.
So we connected throughLinkedIn.
It's such a great emporium toconnect with solid professionals
that are really achieving andalso up-leveling community,
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people's lives, our nation, andfar beyond.
So if you could share a littlebit more about yourself with our
audience.
Dr. Pat (01:23):
Well, one of my things is I love to see women in
business and I love to see womenin business do well because
even in this day and time, it'sstill, I'm sorry, guys, but it's
still a man's world.
And, you know, and so one ofthe things, you know, about that
is that, you know, I think, youknow, back to the JFK um quote,
you know, which says, you know,rising tide lifts all boats,
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but all boats are not seaworthy.
So if you take the analogy ofboats being like our bodies and
our minds, then you've got tofind out where the holes are,
you know, and you've got torepair that area.
And you have to, you know, ifyou can change it so that it's
stronger than it was before,then you're b blue water worthy,
which is you can go across theAtlantic Ocean or Pacific Ocean,
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you know, and not just, youknow, be remain refined to the
with the area of where yourboat's at, like for instance,
like on the finger lakes, youknow, or you know, on a smaller
river or you know, that type ofthing, or a lake that you would
sail on.
So it would dictate the size ofyour life based upon where you
have the ability to sail.
Heather (02:30):
That's huge, right?
Because if you think about it,people's visions are extremely
limiting.
And small vision, small life,big vision, big life.
So, what are you noticing asfar as when people are coming to
you for advice of whether it'spersonal or career related, of
they're at point A, they want toget to point Z.
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What are the steps for this?
What's the process?
Because you've taken people onthis process, you've been highly
effective.
What's the map?
Dr. Pat (03:01):
The map is different for everybody.
You know, um, I was at awedding in England one time, and
I was very much a novice.
I was in chiropractic school,had no clue what I was going to
do with my life or what I wasgetting married or whatever,
whatever I was doing.
And I happened to meet thisgirl and befriend her.
And her father was the CEO ofum, you know, uh British
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Leyland.
And so her wedding was reallyspectacular.
And they invited me to come,and I did.
And the point of that is that,you know, like when, you know,
this gentleman who was there whowas her godfather was
explaining to me how to make amind map at the rehearsal
dinner.
Um, and I saw so much potentialin that that I kept on doing
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that anytime I had to do apresentation when I was in
school.
And so when I take that out andI apply that to my day and time
now, one thing I know is thatpart of my why is to help people
create solutions that aresimpler, they're safer, and
they're quicker.
You know, and when you do that,you know, because a lot of
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people get stuck in the emotionof thinking about it and they
don't really take a lot ofaction on that particular piece.
So when if you can create thatmotion or create it so that you
can funnel it down, becausewhere people think they want to
go is not necessarily reallywhere they want to go.
It's like one of my mentors inum health and wellness on the
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chiropractic side always saidthat, you know, what you got
isn't what you got.
You know, and it's just like ifyou think it, and he said,
maybe it's something else, andyou have to do something first.
So in looking it out, I thinkyou have to really stage it.
You have to figure what's thefirst thing that I really need
to do in order to get to where Iwant to go.
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And always, you know, my mentorof like 40 years, this um this
guy is like a father figure tome.
And he was uh he was a CEO of aimport-export business from
Detroit, which their big, youknow, um partner and
collaborator was Ford MotorCompany at the time.
And uh, he always said, what hegoes, all subjects, you know,
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excuse me, all, you know, whenyou're doing whatever you're
doing, right?
He goes, all plans are subjectto change.
That was his line, you know,and he goes, so never get upset
about if something doesn't workout.
Just look at what you learnfrom it and then take those
tools and put them in yourtoolbox, which you didn't learn,
you know, or it didn't makesense to you, just throw them
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away.
Don't waste time on spilt milk,you know, and then build upon
what you already have going.
I mean, I had that input sinceI was nine years old.
Um, and from this old.
Right.
And having and like, and youknow, there's no, I always think
that, you know, there's nothingby chance and there's no
processes that's not requiretime.
So having realistic, you know,goals, you know, and realistic
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like what is it that I reallywant to do, then, you know, I
help people make betterdecisions, you know, whether
it's travel plans, like theirpersonal life, um, their, you
know, business life, like whatis it that I have to do if I
want to go to my next level?
And sometimes the conversationis so simple because he's always
taught me to keep it simple andnot make it complicated.
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And we are so good as humanbeings at making things
complicated, especially if youknow you're trying to figure it
out yourself.
You know, I am guilty of thatmyself too.
Um, and so I like to see peoplehave that breakthrough and all
of a sudden that light go on,like, oh my God, you know, my
relationship, my, you know, whenI fix my business relationship,
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my home relationship totallychanged too.
You know, and I didn't expectthat as a you know a benefit or
of a bonus.
Um, but I just I love seeingthat.
Like, like I love that look insomeone's face when that, you
know, the dimmer switch goes up,you know, and it, you know,
that one little thing has suchtrickling effect that it's like,
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you know, a snowball starts outas one, you know, one little
piece of like snow, and then youkeep on packing it until you
have a larger one, you know, andyou know, depending upon the
quality of the snow, depends onthe quality of your snowball.
Heather (07:11):
Definitely right.
Well, and so a couple of thingsare jumping out at me.
So, one, backtracking a littlebit, that connection at age
nine, right?
Like, I do believe there aredivine interventions or what I
called it as divine discontent.
Yeah.
Years ago when I was in theoperations arena, where I just
remember driving home one nightand I was in my early 20s, but I
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just felt dead in the eyes.
And I just remembered, I waslike, wow, there is a long time
until retirement of find a way,right?
And I remember at the timereading an Oprah magazine of put
your goal and backtrack it.
And I was in the manufacturingarena, capacity planning, all
this.
So I was used to flow maps andall of that.
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So I was like, okay, endpointand back it up.
But I think that's really neat.
And I think each of us reallydo have inherent gifts, skills,
um, you know, amazing mentorsalong the way, some short term,
some really long, like yours, 40plus years.
And it's just such a beautifulway to give back and it really
up-levels people's lives becauseI mean, take a step back,
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right?
How many decisions do we makein a day?
I know it's a profound stat,but I think it's a huge
impediment to so many people.
And I've gotten better with itover the years, but I mean, talk
about getting stuck.
It's just so that's a that's ahuge gift that you're giving
people.
And two, life is not in silos.
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And I agree, I mean, I'm justin my early 50s at this point,
so there's still a lot to learn,but at least I have a lot in
the tool belt.
Is that I think the old way ofthinking is that life was
siloed.
Career is here.
This is your help, these areyour relationships, and it's as
you shared, it's allintermingled.
Dr. Pat (08:55):
It is, it's like it's and sometimes they parallel each
other.
I mean, you always seen that,like, you know, a stat on a
graph that you have this linegoing like this, and you have
the other line paralleling itbelow it, you know, or and
hopefully, like if it'sfinancial, you want it to be
going up, you know, and you wantwhatever those you know
interests are to be going alongwith that also, you know.
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And I learned a long time agoabout reading stats on a chart
is that you know, you want themclearly going up.
But when they start to go down,you know, like, you know,
because you have fluctuation,you know, if they start to go
down, you can go like, okay,that happened.
But if it happens again, thenyou start to have to go like,
okay, that's a red flag.
You know, what is it that youknow I'm missing or doing, or
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you know, or what's happening inmy environment?
And many times this comes fromwithin.
It's that voice from withinthat we had from childhood or
from, you know, it's just likewhen someone says something to
you, like, um, are you feelingwell?
When you feel great, you know,and you have to think it isn't
really about you, it's aboutthem, you know, and you know,
and you and there's there's alot of pieces to that puzzle.
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I mean, and and then evaluatinglike, you know, how do you feel
you're perceived and how how doyou want to be perceived, and
how are you like, what are youdoing to elevate that in your
the public eye of who you'reworking with and who you're
working for and who you'retrying to attract.
Heather (10:17):
Right, right.
Well, and I think that alsoties in quite nicely with your
you know, your statement ofpeople coming saying they want
this, but as you're using yourdifferent tools and resources,
right?
And when you drill down, thisis actually what they want.
And I think that's where youknow, we are.
I always say we are likesponges.
You take in your surroundingsof what's possible, what's not.
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And I think too, that's wherepeople come out with wanting to
be or have this when the emotionthat they really want is what
they want, not not a certainitem or thing or title.
Dr. Pat (10:52):
For sure.
And there's also a way toprotect your energy while you're
going through that process.
Because a lot of times, likeyou can, I mean, when I had my
personal private practice, Icould see up to 75 people in a
day, you know.
And so um I had a high volumepractice.
I and people, when I did mysurveys in my office, everyone
said thought, I go, Do you feellike you're being heard when
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you're in the office?
And they go, Oh, absolutely.
You know, and so I could talkand do an activity at the same
time, you know, and they wouldbe able to have that feeling,
like, you know, they did it.
If they didn't, you know,because I always called patients
up when I left to go home andmade sure that I touched space
with every new patient oranybody that um came to mind
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when I was going to leave, youknow, I would get a list of
their names and phone numbersand just say, Hey, I just want
to touch base with you.
How are you doing after youradjustment today?
And it was just one of thoselike really simple things.
It took me a half hour, youknow, to make some of those
calls.
And some of them were thefunniest conversations I ever
had.
I mean, you know, it's justlike maybe I should pull over
and not have this conversationwith a car, you know, and so
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that I can pay it pay attention.
But it's really lovely to beable to have that level of
communication, you know, and andbeing able that that touch
point, because we all think, youknow, so I think in this day
and time we have a tendency tobe a little too empathetic, you
know, and because we've beentrained that way, you know, and
there's a thing to being overlike, you know, you know,
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empathetic, right, you know, andso that and when you feel like
after you meet somebody or beenwith somebody that you want to
go home or you're exhausted, youknow, and you want to go home,
it isn't necessarily thatthey're toxic, but you lift
yourself open, you know, andit's like you know, how do you
protect it?
I teach my clients exactly howto do that so that you know
their peace of mind walks everymoment for 24 hours a day with
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them and it's not disturbed.
So when they go to sleep, theygo to sleep.
They're not chattering in theirhead.
And when they get up, they getup with, you know, hitting the
ground ready to run, you know,with whatever it is that they
want to do for that day thatthey deem is important, you
know.
And I teach a rule nine beforenine, um, and you know, which
helps people really organizetheir day and get the first
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thing off their plate so theycan focus on what really
matters.
Heather (13:10):
Definitely.
Yeah, I think it's one of thosetwo people's focus.
Like you said, one, the energy.
I think people are giving itall away, or a lot are not
everyone, right?
But a lot of people are, and Ithink it's unfortunate because
then they don't have time forthe things most important to
them, their dreams, their goals,because they're, if you want to
say being in service toeveryone and everything else.
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But um you know, tying in withall of this, how do you see AI
affecting this arena, right?
You have a really unique way ofhelping people flip that switch
and understanding their truestdesires and what that is,
creating the the plan.
Where do you see AI coming intothis?
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Or do you not?
Dr. Pat (13:53):
Well, you know, I don't really in in a way I could see
it coming into it because youknow, when people are looking
for bigger or better ideas, likeI need to maximize energy,
space, and time between likeseven o'clock in the morning and
eight o'clock.
What are the top five things Ipossibly could do?
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You know, and I like one, two,three, four, five.
You know, then, you know, andthen it's just like as long as
it doesn't go on and chit-chatforever, just like funnel that
down to a list.
I don't need to have anexplanation.
I need a list.
And then if I need anexplanation, I'll ask for the
explanation.
So I've I've used AI in my ownpractice for advertising and for
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content writing and forcorrecting grammar.
You know, so it's what I wentto a Catholic school for 12
years and I still think likeevery once in a while, I'll
think that doesn't look right.
Is it a semicolon or is it acolon?
Um and is that completesentences or is it run on?
And so you you, you know, it'syou know, it's a it's an easy
tool that takes off one thatthat pressure because you want
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to have your message deliveredpristinely and you want to have
it so that it's understandableby and you can people can like
let it seep into theirconsciousness or plant the seed
so that you know they can haveand those kind of pieces of
information can elevate.
And so I see it in that regard.
So, like, you know, and I thinkthat you know, artificial
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intelligence, um, you know, ifit's expertly given, has some
value to it.
It's just like how somebodychooses to put that in, like in
in chiropractic offices, forinstance, which I consult with
sometimes because I want to showthem where they're leaving
money on the table and wherethey're not, and like how to
make better engagement.
I did that with functionalmedicine doctors back when the
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thing was the functionalmedicine with this breaking out.
Because the communicationmatters when you have compliance
and you have people who want tosay, I want that, I want to
have better health and I want tohave this, and working with
that one individual.
So there's information, the wayto disseminate that information
to people can be helpful withthat, and helpful with you know,
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creating specific content thatsometimes, you know, I first
started using it, I had no cluehow to give it a command.
Um, but when I give a commandnow, it's just like I know who
I'm talking to, why I'm talkingto them, and what is the exact
single message I want to getout, whether it's 10 words or
whether it's 50.
And if I can do it in 10 words,I'd rather use the 10 word
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version.
Um, and you know, so there's Isee there's a a big potential,
but I also think that there is,you know, people can get too
used to it.
Right.
You know, is and um and theythey're they rely on it to do
their thinking for them, youknow, and what what AI really
gave me when I first startedusing it was like taking down
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two pages into a half a page.
You know, and that and Ithought that was cool because I
had a friend who was uh anattorney that taught me that
also, you know, but it took himmonths to teach me that.
And you know, and so and I cantake anybody's messaging that
they want to do and take it downto, you know, that half page or
those five sentences as opposedto writing that one piece.
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It's just a hobby of mine thatI like that, you know, for me I
like doing.
And when I see content, youknow, and copy, I go, that's
that's a waste of time.
It's in the wrong place forwhere my eye hits it, you know.
And and it's a better this is abetter word.
And the generalization of wordsthat you use, I mean, I could
go on, there's a whole list.
Um, but you know, I think thatAI serves a purpose, but I think
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we have to be mindful aboutwhat it is that we want AI to
do, you know, and then and thenhire it for that job only.
Definitely.
Heather (17:40):
And what's kind of interesting too, as you were
talking, it it wolf back intoearlier when you were talking
about it's really keeping thingssimple and not overcrowding,
not adding so much fluff thatyou that you lose the message.
So less is more.
And I know going back to myearlier years of karate, we
always learned keep your basicsstrong, like the high kicks and
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all these other things.
I wasn't into the flips, butthey're pretty, they're fun, you
know, they grab attention andwow, but the basics are where
the magic is.
So that ties in exactly withwhat you're saying.
Dr. Pat (18:17):
Right.
Absolutely.
Heather (18:20):
So when you were also talking about, you know, your
your nine before nine and wakingup and just hitting the ground
running, what it reminds me tooof is Napoleon Hills, right?
Think and Grow Rich, the the 1%at the razor's edge.
And I think it is in thosesimplistic, but yet consistency
is integral of it, ofmaintaining those simple
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practices on a daily basis.
Would you agree?
Dr. Pat (18:46):
Absolutely.
You know, um rituals, you know,it's the funny thing about
rituals when you ask peoplelike, what's your health hack?
You know, do you have a habitthat you do?
And because I did this wholesurvey for a year and a half,
and with the intention of takingthat information and creating
it into a book, which I have umin the process of consolidating
that information.
And I got to see if it's stillworthy of it.
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But what I found from people isthat um there are some people
who have are so ritualistic thatyou know they've taken brushing
your teeth into like a wholenother whole dimension, you
know.
And so the when I ask them, andthen people is always a lot of
people say to me they don't havea health hack.
I go, Do you take a shower inthe morning when you get up or
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you know, wash your hair or washyour face?
That's a ritual.
That's a health hack, you know,and uh because we we forget to
create the simplicity of it, youknow, and so when creating
habits, because you take thatone thing of brushing your
teeth, and now it's become aritual, whether when you're
going to bed, whatever, we'lljust use that as an example.
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But the thing is that becomesyou know a ritual after like 21
days or after 256 days, which isthe average time span, you
know, for somebody to takesomething, a habit, and to make
it so important to them thatthey do it every day.
Like if you do 200 sit upsversus 256 days versus like as
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little as 18 days.
But you know, it depends uponwhere your mind's at and how bad
you want it, you know, and soit's just it's like, or do I
want to make this into I want tomake brushing my teeth like a
non-existence issue?
I just want to do it.
You know, so when you choosethat, then it becomes a
non-existent issue.
So then when you get up in themorning morning and do whatever
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you do and you brush your teeth,you know, and take a shower,
brush your teeth, and you know,and you get done, you can say,
like, okay, now what's my nextthing to do?
You know, and that little voicein you, even if you don't
listen to it, um says, What'sthe next thing we have to do?
It's just like, oh, that'scould be one of the nine before
nine, you know, because I alwayssay, and I'll just, you know,
share with your listeners, thenine before nine is doing three
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things that you need to do foryourself that day to increase
your sustainability, you know,your energy, you know, and your
mindset.
Then you do three things foryour business and you do three
things for your family.
You know, and it's just like,and if you do that perpetually,
you know, and make thatimportant, they can change.
It doesn't have to be the samething.
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You know, and and so if youcan, you know, when you get that
into a rule, then that NapoleonHill piece comes in because,
you know, he talked about even,you know, when um he um hired
when Napoleon Hill was hired byCarnegie to go out and meet all
these very successful people andfind out what is it that they
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do, you know, it's just like Ijust want to keep that
information going so that peoplecan have that accessibility,
that information also.
Because you might say to me,you know, like, oh, I, you know,
you have a specific thing thatyou do in the morning, you do
yoga, you know, and you know,it's like I hate yoga, I'm never
gonna do yoga in the morning.
It's just like it's not it forme, my educated brain says
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there's too much flexion inyoga, and I don't want, as I get
older, I want to ex, I want toexercise the extensors of my
body, not the, you know, becauseI want to be able to stand up
straight and have great posture.
And if you exercise yourflexors, your flexors keep on
getting stronger, you know.
So in my head, it logicallydoesn't work, it has to be a
balance.
But you know, but for somepeople, it's just like so.
I wouldn't do that, I would doa different exercise.
Heather (22:25):
You know, and I like to meditate with coffee.
Good.
That's one of those.
I'm like, it sounds reallyweird, but it works for me.
So my journal and morningmeditation.
But you know, jumping back intothe the sports part, because
that's an area that I'm veryintrigued in too.
Um, I actually have the ChicagoMarathon coming up on the 12th.
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So we're just over two weeksout.
What is a mind hack that you'drecommend for me, any other
endurance athletes or any solidbusiness owners?
What's when you're coming andwhen you're approaching a big
right a big date, what is one ortwo things that we can uh keep
focused on to cross that finishline strong?
Dr. Pat (23:11):
So I think to um to cross that finish line strong,
something simple that you can dois really have a deep tissue
massage, especially focusing onreleasing uh trigger points and
adhesions in the calf, you know,and the the sides of the upper
legs with net muscular area isthe tensor fossilata.
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Because a lot of times nerveentrapment happens from the low
back.
And a lot of people have thatlow back pain when they're
running around maybe like the12th mile, like in Boston, you
have that, you know, heartbreakhill, and you have to you which
puts you in the slightly forwardtilt for running, which
stresses out the low back.
So I've always had people tellme that's my hardest point, you
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know, and also like making surethat you're well trained.
So the mental part of that isseeing your, you know, seeing
you going across the finish linewith a specific number in mind.
And the number that's and so ifyou say that like I can, I
will, and I'm going to have, youknow, I'm gonna run this race,
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the best race ever in my entirelife.
I'm gonna have the best timeever in my entire life.
I deserve to win, you know, andif you say that perpetually, I
mean when I went back to schoolto acupuncture school, I was
already in my 50s, you know.
So um, and all these youngpeople that are in in the class,
you know, and I I ended up witha 4.0 until one exam at the
very end, you know, and like Iended up graduating with a 3.96
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and studying Mandarin too, youknow.
And but I what I did is, youknow, when I went to go take a
test, you know, I talked tomyself.
You know, when I studied, Italked to myself.
And I said to myself, where didI get this from?
Maybe Napoleon Hill.
Um, you know, I said to myself,I'm gonna pass this test for
flying colors.
I'm gonna remember everythingthat I am reading right now, and
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I'll be able to there's nothere's no question that they're
gonna be able to ask me that Idon't know the answer to.
Right.
You know, and I said that and Ibelieve that because if you
believe it, it ups to the notch,you know.
So you already know that youcan complete a marathon, right?
Oh, yeah.
So take care of the physicalpart and have someone do some,
you know, like trigger releasebehind, you know, the their
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legs, you know, uh especiallythe cap, um, and make sure that
your ankles are in good shape,you know, and so that you can,
you know, don't have any, likeyou're not gonna be prone to
like, you know, outturn an anklewhen you're running.
Um and then just see yourself,keep yourself at a pace.
You know, when you're whenyou're going uphill, you know,
an uphill thing, just seeyourself see, don't look at
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where you're at, look at whereyou're going and keep focused on
where you're going and justsay, okay, I can change, keep my
pace for till that telephonepull, you know, and then do it.
You know, when you do that,then your body goes, reward, you
know, and your endorphin levelsgo up.
And then you can even and thenyou run like the wind.
You know, and and then that'llbe the tagline.
Heather (26:08):
Run with the wind.
I like it, Dr.
Kat.
Dr. Pat (26:10):
Right.
And it's just like then youhave that.
I worked with Kenyan runners,and I also like highly going to
recommend making sure that youeat the appropriate foods before
you run, because your bodyneeds foods that create
endurance.
So it needs the protein, youknow, not as many carbs as
people believe because proteinstake a lot longer to burn off.
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And when the Kenyan runnersran, they had a really specific
diet that they followed goinginto the race like five days
before, because they wanted tomake sure their body had that
energy and they were digestingthe foods that they already
have.
You know, and so and then youthey also, you know, we all know
that they run as a team.
So that team support is huge.
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So, you know, that's why havingan accountability buddy or a
running buddy, you know, hasalways been helpful, you know,
and also trying to get thataccountability or running buddy
who can run faster than you.
Heather (27:03):
Right.
Dr. Pat (27:03):
You know, I do have that.
Right.
You know, and then it's like,you know, always look where
you're going.
Right face where you're going.
Don't, you know, it's just likethe moment you look down, you
turn your flexors on, and wewant your extensors on because
your extensors are where youhave the power.
That's like when someone'splaying basketball and they
jump, right?
They're using their extensors,they're using their glutes, you
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know, they're using theirhamstrings in order to like push
up, you know, and be able tobounce up.
You need as a runner, those arecrucial muscles also.
Heather (27:34):
I like it.
That's that's a great tip.
You might chuckle at this, butsomething I've done is I I love
the color yellow.
I'll run that through me andbananas.
Dr. Pat (27:45):
And bananas?
Well, you know, because youwant the potassium, you know,
for sure.
Heather (27:50):
And I always look for those on the course.
But my final hard-hittingquestion, and I'll I will share
my great results from these tipsalso in just over two weeks.
Final question, Dr.
Pat.
What does living fully mean toyou?
Dr. Pat (28:05):
It's doing whatever you want to do when you want to do
it, you know, and never don'tsay no to a you know, to a great
invite.
Heather (28:14):
I like it.
Dr. Pat (28:15):
That's perfect.
Heather (28:16):
Well, thank you so much for joining me today.
Please share with our audiencehow they can reach out to you
and work with you.
Dr. Pat (28:24):
Um, one of the best uh ways to reach out to me is on
LinkedIn, um, on my LinkedInprofiles, like where we met, and
I meet a lot of reallyincredible, like how you know
people who have so much energyand they're doing so many
different things.
I would never have had thatopportunity without the platform
of LinkedIn.
Um, secondly, I I have you knowmy website, which is
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healthteamnetwork.com.
It's a little bit under theprocess of uh going to be going
into reconstruction.
So um that's a but there's alot of different venues about
how to reach out and you knowand ask me questions, you know,
there.
There's a microphone on myopening page so that you can tap
into that and ask me aquestion, which comes directly
to me, you know, and mycalendars are always there.
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So if you got a question, youknow, and you want to speak with
me personally, um, there's away for you to get in touch with
me for a short chat.
Um, and if you're looking tolike, should I do a detox or,
you know, like how like I'mtrying to find out just the
basic stuff, like, you know,where am I at without doing 20
tests, you know, um, thenbecause I'm go back to basics
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first, know your foundation, andthen you can decide what type
of biomarkers and blood workthat you really need to do.
And I have the accessibilityfor those tools to be able to
share them.
And you can find that, youknow, on my website also.
Heather (29:43):
Excellent.
Well, thank you so much forjoining me and in sharing that
too.
I've of course my mind, I havea lot of ideas of future things
that we could do together.
So not only personally, butalso uh with my community too.
So thank you so much, Dr.
Pat.
Dr. Pat (29:58):
Thank you.
I really appreciate being here.
This is uh I love today.
This is a really great day.
It was a true joy.
All right.
Thanks.
Bye.
Welcome to Heather Ewing V CRE rundown.
Today from lovely New York, Ihave Dr.
Pat Bulloon.
She is none other than amindset mastery expert, both for
high-achieving professionalsand also for those athletes.
So personally, as a marathoner,I can't wait to talk to her
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about this and how we can allunlevel our careers and lives.
Dr.
Pat, welcome.
Dr. Pat (00:39):
Thank you very much.
I'm really glad to be here.
And I didn't know that.
So that's really that's reallyquite cool.
Cause I've worked marathons, Iprimarily the Boston Marathon,
and more than a few times.
So I have a lot of observationsabout that.
Heather (00:51):
Oh, that's fantastic.
And I finally ran it last year.
So after several attempts thatI hadn't made, I got it in last
year, which was tremendous.
So awesome.
Yeah, we'll have to dive intothat.
So we connected throughLinkedIn.
It's such a great emporium toconnect with solid professionals
that are really achieving andalso up-leveling community,
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people's lives, our nation, andfar beyond.
So if you could share a littlebit more about yourself with our
audience.
Dr. Pat (01:23):
Well, one of my things is I love to see women in
business and I love to see womenin business do well because
even in this day and time, it'sstill, I'm sorry, guys, but it's
still a man's world.
And, you know, and so one ofthe things, you know, about that
is that, you know, I think, youknow, back to the JFK um quote,
you know, which says, you know,rising tide lifts all boats,
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but all boats are not seaworthy.
So if you take the analogy ofboats being like our bodies and
our minds, then you've got tofind out where the holes are,
you know, and you've got torepair that area.
And you have to, you know, ifyou can change it so that it's
stronger than it was before,then you're b blue water worthy,
which is you can go across theAtlantic Ocean or Pacific Ocean,
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you know, and not just, youknow, be remain refined to the
with the area of where yourboat's at, like for instance,
like on the finger lakes, youknow, or you know, on a smaller
river or you know, that type ofthing, or a lake that you would
sail on.
So it would dictate the size ofyour life based upon where you
have the ability to sail.
Heather (02:30):
That's huge, right?
Because if you think about it,people's visions are extremely
limiting.
And small vision, small life,big vision, big life.
So, what are you noticing asfar as when people are coming to
you for advice of whether it'spersonal or career related, of
they're at point A, they want toget to point Z.
(02:51):
What are the steps for this?
What's the process?
Because you've taken people onthis process, you've been highly
effective.
What's the map?
Dr. Pat (03:01):
The map is different for everybody.
You know, um, I was at awedding in England one time, and
I was very much a novice.
I was in chiropractic school,had no clue what I was going to
do with my life or what I wasgetting married or whatever,
whatever I was doing.
And I happened to meet thisgirl and befriend her.
And her father was the CEO ofum, you know, uh British
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Leyland.
And so her wedding was reallyspectacular.
And they invited me to come,and I did.
And the point of that is that,you know, like when, you know,
this gentleman who was there whowas her godfather was
explaining to me how to make amind map at the rehearsal
dinner.
Um, and I saw so much potentialin that that I kept on doing
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that anytime I had to do apresentation when I was in
school.
And so when I take that out andI apply that to my day and time
now, one thing I know is thatpart of my why is to help people
create solutions that aresimpler, they're safer, and
they're quicker.
You know, and when you do that,you know, because a lot of
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people get stuck in the emotionof thinking about it and they
don't really take a lot ofaction on that particular piece.
So when if you can create thatmotion or create it so that you
can funnel it down, becausewhere people think they want to
go is not necessarily reallywhere they want to go.
It's like one of my mentors inum health and wellness on the
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chiropractic side always saidthat, you know, what you got
isn't what you got.
You know, and it's just like ifyou think it, and he said,
maybe it's something else, andyou have to do something first.
So in looking it out, I thinkyou have to really stage it.
You have to figure what's thefirst thing that I really need
to do in order to get to where Iwant to go.
(04:45):
And always, you know, my mentorof like 40 years, this um this
guy is like a father figure tome.
And he was uh he was a CEO of aimport-export business from
Detroit, which their big, youknow, um partner and
collaborator was Ford MotorCompany at the time.
And uh, he always said, what hegoes, all subjects, you know,
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excuse me, all, you know, whenyou're doing whatever you're
doing, right?
He goes, all plans are subjectto change.
That was his line, you know,and he goes, so never get upset
about if something doesn't workout.
Just look at what you learnfrom it and then take those
tools and put them in yourtoolbox, which you didn't learn,
you know, or it didn't makesense to you, just throw them
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away.
Don't waste time on spilt milk,you know, and then build upon
what you already have going.
I mean, I had that input sinceI was nine years old.
Um, and from this old.
Right.
And having and like, and youknow, there's no, I always think
that, you know, there's nothingby chance and there's no
processes that's not requiretime.
So having realistic, you know,goals, you know, and realistic
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like what is it that I reallywant to do, then, you know, I
help people make betterdecisions, you know, whether
it's travel plans, like theirpersonal life, um, their, you
know, business life, like whatis it that I have to do if I
want to go to my next level?
And sometimes the conversationis so simple because he's always
taught me to keep it simple andnot make it complicated.
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And we are so good as humanbeings at making things
complicated, especially if youknow you're trying to figure it
out yourself.
You know, I am guilty of thatmyself too.
Um, and so I like to see peoplehave that breakthrough and all
of a sudden that light go on,like, oh my God, you know, my
relationship, my, you know, whenI fix my business relationship,
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my home relationship totallychanged too.
You know, and I didn't expectthat as a you know a benefit or
of a bonus.
Um, but I just I love seeingthat.
Like, like I love that look insomeone's face when that, you
know, the dimmer switch goes up,you know, and it, you know,
that one little thing has suchtrickling effect that it's like,
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you know, a snowball starts outas one, you know, one little
piece of like snow, and then youkeep on packing it until you
have a larger one, you know, andyou know, depending upon the
quality of the snow, depends onthe quality of your snowball.
Heather (07:11):
Definitely right.
Well, and so a couple of thingsare jumping out at me.
So, one, backtracking a littlebit, that connection at age
nine, right?
Like, I do believe there aredivine interventions or what I
called it as divine discontent.
Yeah.
Years ago when I was in theoperations arena, where I just
remember driving home one nightand I was in my early 20s, but I
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just felt dead in the eyes.
And I just remembered, I waslike, wow, there is a long time
until retirement of find a way,right?
And I remember at the timereading an Oprah magazine of put
your goal and backtrack it.
And I was in the manufacturingarena, capacity planning, all
this.
So I was used to flow maps andall of that.
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So I was like, okay, endpointand back it up.
But I think that's really neat.
And I think each of us reallydo have inherent gifts, skills,
um, you know, amazing mentorsalong the way, some short term,
some really long, like yours, 40plus years.
And it's just such a beautifulway to give back and it really
up-levels people's lives becauseI mean, take a step back,
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right?
How many decisions do we makein a day?
I know it's a profound stat,but I think it's a huge
impediment to so many people.
And I've gotten better with itover the years, but I mean, talk
about getting stuck.
It's just so that's a that's ahuge gift that you're giving
people.
And two, life is not in silos.
(08:36):
And I agree, I mean, I'm justin my early 50s at this point,
so there's still a lot to learn,but at least I have a lot in
the tool belt.
Is that I think the old way ofthinking is that life was
siloed.
Career is here.
This is your help, these areyour relationships, and it's as
you shared, it's allintermingled.
Dr. Pat (08:55):
It is, it's like it's and sometimes they parallel each
other.
I mean, you always seen that,like, you know, a stat on a
graph that you have this linegoing like this, and you have
the other line paralleling itbelow it, you know, or and
hopefully, like if it'sfinancial, you want it to be
going up, you know, and you wantwhatever those you know
interests are to be going alongwith that also, you know.
(09:17):
And I learned a long time agoabout reading stats on a chart
is that you know, you want themclearly going up.
But when they start to go down,you know, like, you know,
because you have fluctuation,you know, if they start to go
down, you can go like, okay,that happened.
But if it happens again, thenyou start to have to go like,
okay, that's a red flag.
You know, what is it that youknow I'm missing or doing, or
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you know, or what's happening inmy environment?
And many times this comes fromwithin.
It's that voice from withinthat we had from childhood or
from, you know, it's just likewhen someone says something to
you, like, um, are you feelingwell?
When you feel great, you know,and you have to think it isn't
really about you, it's aboutthem, you know, and you know,
and you and there's there's alot of pieces to that puzzle.
(10:01):
I mean, and and then evaluatinglike, you know, how do you feel
you're perceived and how how doyou want to be perceived, and
how are you like, what are youdoing to elevate that in your
the public eye of who you'reworking with and who you're
working for and who you'retrying to attract.
Heather (10:17):
Right, right.
Well, and I think that alsoties in quite nicely with your
you know, your statement ofpeople coming saying they want
this, but as you're using yourdifferent tools and resources,
right?
And when you drill down, thisis actually what they want.
And I think that's where youknow, we are.
I always say we are likesponges.
You take in your surroundingsof what's possible, what's not.
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And I think too, that's wherepeople come out with wanting to
be or have this when the emotionthat they really want is what
they want, not not a certainitem or thing or title.
Dr. Pat (10:52):
For sure.
And there's also a way toprotect your energy while you're
going through that process.
Because a lot of times, likeyou can, I mean, when I had my
personal private practice, Icould see up to 75 people in a
day, you know.
And so um I had a high volumepractice.
I and people, when I did mysurveys in my office, everyone
said thought, I go, Do you feellike you're being heard when
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you're in the office?
And they go, Oh, absolutely.
You know, and so I could talkand do an activity at the same
time, you know, and they wouldbe able to have that feeling,
like, you know, they did it.
If they didn't, you know,because I always called patients
up when I left to go home andmade sure that I touched space
with every new patient oranybody that um came to mind
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when I was going to leave, youknow, I would get a list of
their names and phone numbersand just say, Hey, I just want
to touch base with you.
How are you doing after youradjustment today?
And it was just one of thoselike really simple things.
It took me a half hour, youknow, to make some of those
calls.
And some of them were thefunniest conversations I ever
had.
I mean, you know, it's justlike maybe I should pull over
and not have this conversationwith a car, you know, and so
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that I can pay it pay attention.
But it's really lovely to beable to have that level of
communication, you know, and andbeing able that that touch
point, because we all think, youknow, so I think in this day
and time we have a tendency tobe a little too empathetic, you
know, and because we've beentrained that way, you know, and
there's a thing to being overlike, you know, you know,
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empathetic, right, you know, andso that and when you feel like
after you meet somebody or beenwith somebody that you want to
go home or you're exhausted, youknow, and you want to go home,
it isn't necessarily thatthey're toxic, but you lift
yourself open, you know, andit's like you know, how do you
protect it?
I teach my clients exactly howto do that so that you know
their peace of mind walks everymoment for 24 hours a day with
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them and it's not disturbed.
So when they go to sleep, theygo to sleep.
They're not chattering in theirhead.
And when they get up, they getup with, you know, hitting the
ground ready to run, you know,with whatever it is that they
want to do for that day thatthey deem is important, you
know.
And I teach a rule nine beforenine, um, and you know, which
helps people really organizetheir day and get the first
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thing off their plate so theycan focus on what really
matters.
Heather (13:10):
Definitely.
Yeah, I think it's one of thosetwo people's focus.
Like you said, one, the energy.
I think people are giving itall away, or a lot are not
everyone, right?
But a lot of people are, and Ithink it's unfortunate because
then they don't have time forthe things most important to
them, their dreams, their goals,because they're, if you want to
say being in service toeveryone and everything else.
(13:32):
But um you know, tying in withall of this, how do you see AI
affecting this arena, right?
You have a really unique way ofhelping people flip that switch
and understanding their truestdesires and what that is,
creating the the plan.
Where do you see AI coming intothis?
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Or do you not?
Dr. Pat (13:53):
Well, you know, I don't really in in a way I could see
it coming into it because youknow, when people are looking
for bigger or better ideas, likeI need to maximize energy,
space, and time between likeseven o'clock in the morning and
eight o'clock.
What are the top five things Ipossibly could do?
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You know, and I like one, two,three, four, five.
You know, then, you know, andthen it's just like as long as
it doesn't go on and chit-chatforever, just like funnel that
down to a list.
I don't need to have anexplanation.
I need a list.
And then if I need anexplanation, I'll ask for the
explanation.
So I've I've used AI in my ownpractice for advertising and for
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content writing and forcorrecting grammar.
You know, so it's what I wentto a Catholic school for 12
years and I still think likeevery once in a while, I'll
think that doesn't look right.
Is it a semicolon or is it acolon?
Um and is that completesentences or is it run on?
And so you you, you know, it'syou know, it's a it's an easy
tool that takes off one thatthat pressure because you want
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to have your message deliveredpristinely and you want to have
it so that it's understandableby and you can people can like
let it seep into theirconsciousness or plant the seed
so that you know they can haveand those kind of pieces of
information can elevate.
And so I see it in that regard.
So, like, you know, and I thinkthat you know, artificial
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intelligence, um, you know, ifit's expertly given, has some
value to it.
It's just like how somebodychooses to put that in, like in
in chiropractic offices, forinstance, which I consult with
sometimes because I want to showthem where they're leaving
money on the table and wherethey're not, and like how to
make better engagement.
I did that with functionalmedicine doctors back when the
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thing was the functionalmedicine with this breaking out.
Because the communicationmatters when you have compliance
and you have people who want tosay, I want that, I want to
have better health and I want tohave this, and working with
that one individual.
So there's information, the wayto disseminate that information
to people can be helpful withthat, and helpful with you know,
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creating specific content thatsometimes, you know, I first
started using it, I had no cluehow to give it a command.
Um, but when I give a commandnow, it's just like I know who
I'm talking to, why I'm talkingto them, and what is the exact
single message I want to getout, whether it's 10 words or
whether it's 50.
And if I can do it in 10 words,I'd rather use the 10 word
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version.
Um, and you know, so there's Isee there's a a big potential,
but I also think that there is,you know, people can get too
used to it.
Right.
You know, is and um and theythey're they rely on it to do
their thinking for them, youknow, and what what AI really
gave me when I first startedusing it was like taking down
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two pages into a half a page.
You know, and that and Ithought that was cool because I
had a friend who was uh anattorney that taught me that
also, you know, but it took himmonths to teach me that.
And you know, and so and I cantake anybody's messaging that
they want to do and take it downto, you know, that half page or
those five sentences as opposedto writing that one piece.
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It's just a hobby of mine thatI like that, you know, for me I
like doing.
And when I see content, youknow, and copy, I go, that's
that's a waste of time.
It's in the wrong place forwhere my eye hits it, you know.
And and it's a better this is abetter word.
And the generalization of wordsthat you use, I mean, I could
go on, there's a whole list.
Um, but you know, I think thatAI serves a purpose, but I think
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we have to be mindful aboutwhat it is that we want AI to
do, you know, and then and thenhire it for that job only.
Definitely.
Heather (17:40):
And what's kind of interesting too, as you were
talking, it it wolf back intoearlier when you were talking
about it's really keeping thingssimple and not overcrowding,
not adding so much fluff thatyou that you lose the message.
So less is more.
And I know going back to myearlier years of karate, we
always learned keep your basicsstrong, like the high kicks and
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all these other things.
I wasn't into the flips, butthey're pretty, they're fun, you
know, they grab attention andwow, but the basics are where
the magic is.
So that ties in exactly withwhat you're saying.
Dr. Pat (18:17):
Right.
Absolutely.
Heather (18:20):
So when you were also talking about, you know, your
your nine before nine and wakingup and just hitting the ground
running, what it reminds me tooof is Napoleon Hills, right?
Think and Grow Rich, the the 1%at the razor's edge.
And I think it is in thosesimplistic, but yet consistency
is integral of it, ofmaintaining those simple
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practices on a daily basis.
Would you agree?
Dr. Pat (18:46):
Absolutely.
You know, um rituals, you know,it's the funny thing about
rituals when you ask peoplelike, what's your health hack?
You know, do you have a habitthat you do?
And because I did this wholesurvey for a year and a half,
and with the intention of takingthat information and creating
it into a book, which I have umin the process of consolidating
that information.
And I got to see if it's stillworthy of it.
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But what I found from people isthat um there are some people
who have are so ritualistic thatyou know they've taken brushing
your teeth into like a wholenother whole dimension, you
know.
And so the when I ask them, andthen people is always a lot of
people say to me they don't havea health hack.
I go, Do you take a shower inthe morning when you get up or
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you know, wash your hair or washyour face?
That's a ritual.
That's a health hack, you know,and uh because we we forget to
create the simplicity of it, youknow, and so when creating
habits, because you take thatone thing of brushing your
teeth, and now it's become aritual, whether when you're
going to bed, whatever, we'lljust use that as an example.
(19:49):
But the thing is that becomesyou know a ritual after like 21
days or after 256 days, which isthe average time span, you
know, for somebody to takesomething, a habit, and to make
it so important to them thatthey do it every day.
Like if you do 200 sit upsversus 256 days versus like as
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little as 18 days.
But you know, it depends uponwhere your mind's at and how bad
you want it, you know, and soit's just it's like, or do I
want to make this into I want tomake brushing my teeth like a
non-existence issue?
I just want to do it.
You know, so when you choosethat, then it becomes a
non-existent issue.
So then when you get up in themorning morning and do whatever
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you do and you brush your teeth,you know, and take a shower,
brush your teeth, and you know,and you get done, you can say,
like, okay, now what's my nextthing to do?
You know, and that little voicein you, even if you don't
listen to it, um says, What'sthe next thing we have to do?
It's just like, oh, that'scould be one of the nine before
nine, you know, because I alwayssay, and I'll just, you know,
share with your listeners, thenine before nine is doing three
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things that you need to do foryourself that day to increase
your sustainability, you know,your energy, you know, and your
mindset.
Then you do three things foryour business and you do three
things for your family.
You know, and it's just like,and if you do that perpetually,
you know, and make thatimportant, they can change.
It doesn't have to be the samething.
(21:17):
You know, and and so if youcan, you know, when you get that
into a rule, then that NapoleonHill piece comes in because,
you know, he talked about even,you know, when um he um hired
when Napoleon Hill was hired byCarnegie to go out and meet all
these very successful people andfind out what is it that they
(21:39):
do, you know, it's just like Ijust want to keep that
information going so that peoplecan have that accessibility,
that information also.
Because you might say to me,you know, like, oh, I, you know,
you have a specific thing thatyou do in the morning, you do
yoga, you know, and you know,it's like I hate yoga, I'm never
gonna do yoga in the morning.
It's just like it's not it forme, my educated brain says
(22:02):
there's too much flexion inyoga, and I don't want, as I get
older, I want to ex, I want toexercise the extensors of my
body, not the, you know, becauseI want to be able to stand up
straight and have great posture.
And if you exercise yourflexors, your flexors keep on
getting stronger, you know.
So in my head, it logicallydoesn't work, it has to be a
balance.
But you know, but for somepeople, it's just like so.
I wouldn't do that, I would doa different exercise.
Heather (22:25):
You know, and I like to meditate with coffee.
Good.
That's one of those.
I'm like, it sounds reallyweird, but it works for me.
So my journal and morningmeditation.
But you know, jumping back intothe the sports part, because
that's an area that I'm veryintrigued in too.
Um, I actually have the ChicagoMarathon coming up on the 12th.
(22:48):
So we're just over two weeksout.
What is a mind hack that you'drecommend for me, any other
endurance athletes or any solidbusiness owners?
What's when you're coming andwhen you're approaching a big
right a big date, what is one ortwo things that we can uh keep
focused on to cross that finishline strong?
Dr. Pat (23:11):
So I think to um to cross that finish line strong,
something simple that you can dois really have a deep tissue
massage, especially focusing onreleasing uh trigger points and
adhesions in the calf, you know,and the the sides of the upper
legs with net muscular area isthe tensor fossilata.
(23:32):
Because a lot of times nerveentrapment happens from the low
back.
And a lot of people have thatlow back pain when they're
running around maybe like the12th mile, like in Boston, you
have that, you know, heartbreakhill, and you have to you which
puts you in the slightly forwardtilt for running, which
stresses out the low back.
So I've always had people tellme that's my hardest point, you
(23:54):
know, and also like making surethat you're well trained.
So the mental part of that isseeing your, you know, seeing
you going across the finish linewith a specific number in mind.
And the number that's and so ifyou say that like I can, I
will, and I'm going to have, youknow, I'm gonna run this race,
(24:16):
the best race ever in my entirelife.
I'm gonna have the best timeever in my entire life.
I deserve to win, you know, andif you say that perpetually, I
mean when I went back to schoolto acupuncture school, I was
already in my 50s, you know.
So um, and all these youngpeople that are in in the class,
you know, and I I ended up witha 4.0 until one exam at the
very end, you know, and like Iended up graduating with a 3.96
(24:40):
and studying Mandarin too, youknow.
And but I what I did is, youknow, when I went to go take a
test, you know, I talked tomyself.
You know, when I studied, Italked to myself.
And I said to myself, where didI get this from?
Maybe Napoleon Hill.
Um, you know, I said to myself,I'm gonna pass this test for
flying colors.
I'm gonna remember everythingthat I am reading right now, and
(25:02):
I'll be able to there's nothere's no question that they're
gonna be able to ask me that Idon't know the answer to.
Right.
You know, and I said that and Ibelieve that because if you
believe it, it ups to the notch,you know.
So you already know that youcan complete a marathon, right?
Oh, yeah.
So take care of the physicalpart and have someone do some,
you know, like trigger releasebehind, you know, the their
(25:24):
legs, you know, uh especiallythe cap, um, and make sure that
your ankles are in good shape,you know, and so that you can,
you know, don't have any, likeyou're not gonna be prone to
like, you know, outturn an anklewhen you're running.
Um and then just see yourself,keep yourself at a pace.
You know, when you're whenyou're going uphill, you know,
an uphill thing, just seeyourself see, don't look at
(25:46):
where you're at, look at whereyou're going and keep focused on
where you're going and justsay, okay, I can change, keep my
pace for till that telephonepull, you know, and then do it.
You know, when you do that,then your body goes, reward, you
know, and your endorphin levelsgo up.
And then you can even and thenyou run like the wind.
You know, and and then that'llbe the tagline.
Heather (26:08):
Run with the wind.
I like it, Dr.
Kat.
Dr. Pat (26:10):
Right.
And it's just like then youhave that.
I worked with Kenyan runners,and I also like highly going to
recommend making sure that youeat the appropriate foods before
you run, because your bodyneeds foods that create
endurance.
So it needs the protein, youknow, not as many carbs as
people believe because proteinstake a lot longer to burn off.
(26:32):
And when the Kenyan runnersran, they had a really specific
diet that they followed goinginto the race like five days
before, because they wanted tomake sure their body had that
energy and they were digestingthe foods that they already
have.
You know, and so and then youthey also, you know, we all know
that they run as a team.
So that team support is huge.
(26:53):
So, you know, that's why havingan accountability buddy or a
running buddy, you know, hasalways been helpful, you know,
and also trying to get thataccountability or running buddy
who can run faster than you.
Heather (27:03):
Right.
Dr. Pat (27:03):
You know, I do have that.
Right.
You know, and then it's like,you know, always look where
you're going.
Right face where you're going.
Don't, you know, it's just likethe moment you look down, you
turn your flexors on, and wewant your extensors on because
your extensors are where youhave the power.
That's like when someone'splaying basketball and they
jump, right?
They're using their extensors,they're using their glutes, you
(27:25):
know, they're using theirhamstrings in order to like push
up, you know, and be able tobounce up.
You need as a runner, those arecrucial muscles also.
Heather (27:34):
I like it.
That's that's a great tip.
You might chuckle at this, butsomething I've done is I I love
the color yellow.
I'll run that through me andbananas.
Dr. Pat (27:45):
And bananas?
Well, you know, because youwant the potassium, you know,
for sure.
Heather (27:50):
And I always look for those on the course.
But my final hard-hittingquestion, and I'll I will share
my great results from these tipsalso in just over two weeks.
Final question, Dr.
Pat.
What does living fully mean toyou?
Dr. Pat (28:05):
It's doing whatever you want to do when you want to do
it, you know, and never don'tsay no to a you know, to a great
invite.
Heather (28:14):
I like it.
Dr. Pat (28:15):
That's perfect.
Heather (28:16):
Well, thank you so much for joining me today.
Please share with our audiencehow they can reach out to you
and work with you.
Dr. Pat (28:24):
Um, one of the best uh ways to reach out to me is on
LinkedIn, um, on my LinkedInprofiles, like where we met, and
I meet a lot of reallyincredible, like how you know
people who have so much energyand they're doing so many
different things.
I would never have had thatopportunity without the platform
of LinkedIn.
Um, secondly, I I have you knowmy website, which is
(28:45):
healthteamnetwork.com.
It's a little bit under theprocess of uh going to be going
into reconstruction.
So um that's a but there's alot of different venues about
how to reach out and you knowand ask me questions, you know,
there.
There's a microphone on myopening page so that you can tap
into that and ask me aquestion, which comes directly
to me, you know, and mycalendars are always there.
(29:07):
So if you got a question, youknow, and you want to speak with
me personally, um, there's away for you to get in touch with
me for a short chat.
Um, and if you're looking tolike, should I do a detox or,
you know, like how like I'mtrying to find out just the
basic stuff, like, you know,where am I at without doing 20
tests, you know, um, thenbecause I'm go back to basics
(29:29):
first, know your foundation, andthen you can decide what type
of biomarkers and blood workthat you really need to do.
And I have the accessibilityfor those tools to be able to
share them.
And you can find that, youknow, on my website also.
Heather (29:43):
Excellent.
Well, thank you so much forjoining me and in sharing that
too.
I've of course my mind, I havea lot of ideas of future things
that we could do together.
So not only personally, butalso uh with my community too.
So thank you so much, Dr.
Pat.
Dr. Pat (29:58):
Thank you.
I really appreciate being here.
This is uh I love today.
This is a really great day.
It was a true joy.
All right.
Thanks.
Bye.
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