May 19, 2025 • 47 mins
Stepping into the power of the present moment transforms everything. We've been conditioned to believe our worth comes from what we accomplish, constantly chasing future goals while missing the richness available right now. But what if true fulfillment isn't about doing more but about being more fully present?
Laura shares her recent personal evolution, describing it as "having a decade worth of personal growth condensed in a month." She's discovering the freedom that comes from not dragging past limiting beliefs into each new day. Rather than rushing through life on autopilot, she's learning to trust her intuition about which environments energize her and which deplete her—and making guilt-free pivots when necessary.
The conversation explores how seemingly small moments create profound impact. Laura recounts choosing to attend her young son's five-minute school event despite her busy schedule, recognizing that these "mustard seed moments" shape our relationships in ways productivity-focused thinking often misses. Similarly, Mondo reflects on how our character is truly revealed not when everything's going well, but in how we show up during challenges.
We discuss the beauty of understanding different roles in life's grand story. Some provide the steady foundation that allows others to take risks. Neither path is superior—they're complementary expressions of purpose in a larger design. The key is recognizing which character you're meant to play in this season and embracing it fully.
What story are you living? We invite you to pause and consider how you might touch more lives today through simple presence and connection. Your power to create meaningful change exists solely in the now moment—and that realization changes everything.
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Mondo (00:00):
Well, welcome to the Heavenly Human Podcast, where we
help you pause and pivottowards true fulfillment.
My name is Mondo and I am herewith the one and only Laura King
.
Laura (00:10):
Good afternoon.
Mondo (00:12):
Hey, we are here.
Laura (00:13):
Oh, can we just celebrate ?
Someone just had a little bigbirthday.
Happy birthday, Mondo.
Mondo (00:21):
Thank you, the big four zero.
You know, I grew up with somecousins who were a year older
than me, and so they always usedto bully me when I was a kid,
right, like I always got thelast cover when we made tents or
like a small chair or whatever.
So then when they turned 40before me, I got to mess with
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them like how old they were, andof course as soon as I turned
40, they hit me up like oh yeah,you're here with us now, you're
in your 40s.
And so I've been like having toonboard this like 40 year old
weight as if it's supermeaningful.
But I feel good, I feel wise, Ifeel wise.
I feel wise, like there's adifferent wisdom at 40.
Laura (01:06):
Maybe we'll see how it unfolds, but there was no like I
don't know.
I feel like some people likewhen they turn 40 it's like a
I've got to go change a bunch ofthings in my life, you know,
like almost like, almost like apanic oh no, it was uh yesterday
, yesterday, when my partner anddaughter came in with the
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balloons and the gifts and, ofcourse, the Trace Leche cake.
Yes.
Mondo (01:35):
It was such a just, meaningful moment because I'm
not even really a gift person,but there was just something
about how that exchange happenedthat like made me feel like
proud in our relationship, justlike, oh, you two humans I think
there's other people that valueme, but like you two humans
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just really like, value thisconnection and it was just a
good vibe, good spirit, goodenergy, and it was just the
three of us that had ourintimate celebration.
But I really felt loved and itwas just a memorable moment.
Laura (02:15):
And some of us want to throw big parties, and for you,
it was just the three of you.
Mondo (02:19):
Just the three of us.
So here we are 40.
I feel like my brother saidwhat's next?
My younger brother he is, Ithink, 19 he said now what?
And I was like had to use hislanguage.
So I was like, oh, you know, inlike dragon ball z, where
somebody gets out of thehyperbolic time chamber, it only
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makes sense to people thatwatch this anime.
Uh, like I feel like I just gotout of this hyperbolic time
chamber.
It only makes sense to peoplethat watch this anime.
Like I feel like I just got outof this chamber and now like I
can go and like execute onsomething because, like I've
been practicing by myself, I'mlike building a better character
and so I'm ready to like takeon whatever the next challenge
is.
So that's one of my- Lifebegins at 40.
Life begins at 40.
(03:03):
So, yeah, and in addition to mybirthday, I mean, you came in
here with a fresh haircut, soare we celebrating that too.
Laura (03:14):
I mean, I get a fresh haircut like every three months,
so it's fine.
Mondo (03:18):
It's fine, it's good, all right.
Laura (03:20):
Thank you for noticing Many men don't do that.
Thank you for noticing Many mendon't do that.
Mondo (03:25):
So, just if I'm being fully transparent, laura said,
hey, I'm getting my hair done,and so I was like, oh nice, you
got your hair done, because Itypically don't notice things
like that, but some other men doand applaud to those men who
notice that thing.
Outside of that, anything elsepositive been going on, some aha
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moments like what's beenhappening in life since
everything is accelerating.
Laura (03:49):
Okay, everything is accelerating like from a from a.
I'm learning this new way ofbeing and it's so different from
the old way that it's almostlike every morning oh my, am I
gonna do the new way or the oldway?
Oh no, like the new way thatit's almost like every morning,
am I going to do the new way orthe old way?
Oh no, like the new way is waymore fun, but it just seems so
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counter cultural that all of thedoing, the wrapped up in the
hurrying and the racing, and forme it's just like slowing
everything down and reallyshowing up for the things I do
say yes to and knowing like Godis just orchestrating stuff in
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the background that I don't evenhave to touch, that I just know
because I have it so in myspirit, like this is going to
happen if God wills it to happen, and I'm cool either way, but
it's just holding this intentionof.
I am meant to be thislighthouse for people and I'm
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getting so much better atknowing myself and knowing the
environments that I thrive andthe environments that I do not
thrive, and this is justcontinuously like the
reflections.
Every day I've been journalingmore than ever, both on the
computer and in my writtenjournal, and I'm just.
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I feel like I have had a decadeworth of personal growth
condensed in a month, likethat's how fast it feels in
terms of my evolution.
Mondo (05:37):
I love that.
I love that.
One of the things that you saidwas you know the environments
that you thrive in versus theones that you don't.
Can you say a little bit moreabout that?
Laura (05:49):
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to put into words, it's more of
a frequency.
I can just tell when Iliterally step into rooms, if
this is a room I'm meant to bein or not.
When I literally step intorooms, if this is a room I'm
meant to be in or not, because Ifeel the energy in there and I
don't know if that's just a justa new revelation that I'm
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having of really trusting myintuition, really trusting my
body to tell me, Um, but likeI'm cool with I.
I'm like, oh, I was going to goto this event, Just kidding.
I'm going to turn around and godo something else and feel
absolutely no guilt.
Mondo (06:30):
And that's different for you.
Laura (06:32):
Oh yeah.
Mondo (06:33):
Before you'd be like, oh, I guess I got to be here for an
hour and a half and gritthrough it and like, ah man, and
then leave and a little out ofbalance.
But now you're like, nope, I'mgoing to keep my balance, I'm
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going to prioritize my balance.
That's awesome.
You talked about this shift,this new you, this embodying
being more than doing somethingthat you say frequently.
Has this shift like did youlike pour everything out and
then like, let me put somethings back in?
Or did this shift happen inlike smaller, incremental steps?
Like how would you say thisshift has best work for you?
Does that question make sense?
Laura (07:22):
So my new analogy is like every morning I don't need to
drag any of the past into thenow moment, like you could
literally just burn it all down.
Think about all of the theselimiting beliefs that used to
hold me back, like I'm not goodenough, I'm not smart enough,
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I'm not whatever enough.
I literally like they don'tcarry over.
And when they do pop into myawareness, I can see them.
I can say, okay, I see you,this program of the.
I'm not good enough.
I'm going to feel that in mybody and I'm going to say bring
it to the light.
That's not the truth of who Iam and I'm just letting it pass
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through me.
And so every day I'm gettingbetter at recognizing when these
old programs are trying toinsert themselves.
But the analogy that I'm reallygetting better at is like your
power is in the now moment, likeyour power to create is in the
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now moment and you don't have todrag anything from your past
into the now moment.
Mondo (08:39):
Man, as you're talking, the thing that comes to me is,
honestly, bruce Lee.
The thing that comes to me is,honestly, bruce Lee and it's
more on.
Like Bruce Lee was, like yo,I'm competing against myself.
The self of an hour ago or theself of yesterday or whatever,
like these external things inthe world is no longer something
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that I feel like I need tocompete against, because I've
already conquered that.
Like I'm no longer chasing, I'mno longer the rabbit trying to
get the carrot.
It's literally me versus me.
And the old me got to die Right, or I got to sit set that old
me down in case I need him orher later.
But like you're talking aboutbeing in this now moment and
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saying like the only thing thatmatters is right now and
everything can be manifestedfrom.
Laura (09:28):
Like this moment, this moment, yeah, mm-hmm.
Mondo (09:33):
Are there any other, I guess, analogies or sayings that
you feel, like you say over andover and over that like really
help you stay in the now moment.
Laura (09:44):
I know who I am, I know who.
Now, moment I know who I am, Iknow who I am, I know who I am,
like, I anchor in that truth oflike and again.
It's like we are literallyspirits in a body.
We just happen to occupy thisbody.
Our true nature is abundanceand freedom and joy and
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possibility and limitless Like.
How can you embody that whilebeing in this human body?
Mondo (10:14):
What would you say is the last Laura challenge?
Because I hear a lot of likeLaura challenge, cause I hear a
lot of like I'm getting better.
I'm staying in the now.
Was there a moment recentlywhere you're like man, this was
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kind of challenging and itmight've been like a a bit of a
leap of faith to to get to theother side of this challenge.
And the reason why I'm askingis because, uh, the words that
you're saying are like awesomewords, but I'm trying to bring
in like a practical example yeah, because some people might be
like this sounds good, but likeit it doesn't align with this
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challenge.
Laura (10:57):
I'm hearing what you're saying.
It sounds good, but like I,just I still don't believe you
yeah okay, what would be anexample of a challenge?
Okay, say more words of likewhat are you envisioning?
Mondo (11:13):
There is a crossroad where you have to choose your
intuition versus the expectationof somebody else, where you
don't want to let somebody elsedown, or somebody may have
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expected the old version ofLaura to show up a certain way,
or, historically, somebody closeto you may have been able to
have access to two hours of yourtime because Laura's always
there for me.
But now you're like no, I'mprioritizing me, I'm practicing
being in the present and I canno longer be this person for you
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for two hours, this person foryou for two hours, but I can
give you 20 minutes Just.
I feel like the world sends uschallenges when we try to like,
pivot or elevate to a newerversion of ourselves.
So, for example, I was having acall with somebody earlier
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today and they were just talkingabout the best practices of
business and they're likebusiness is going really well,
like these, these deals keepcoming in, or potential deals
keep coming in, even though thisperson is like I know I can
lean into my faith a little bitmore, but these deals are coming
in, but my faith is saying bestill, but these deals are
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coming in, and so they're likejuggling.
Do I go pursue these deals or doI choose faith, and it's just
that juxtaposition of I know inmy spirit I should probably be a
little bit more patient, butbeing an entrepreneur is bottom
line, bottom line expectationsand so having to choose the
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tough choice to maybe pauseRight and say, instead of taking
this good deal, if I pause, isthe great deal going to be on
the other side, right?
Or if I just hurry up and I'mthat rabbit and I take that
first deal and now I go like onthat path, that great deal might
not even cross my path anymorebecause, like, I've already like
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left the station and so I justfeel like in our lives we say
universe, god, jesus Christ, Iwant to be better, jesus Christ,
I want to be better, I want todo better, I want to be in the
present moment and God saysthank you for putting in that
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effort.
Now let me send you a littlechallenge to see if you are just
saying that out loud or ifyou're actually going to embody
the things that you say you wantto become.
And so, yeah, I think I'm justreaching for more anecdotes or
examples where we cross thatchasm.
Laura (14:08):
Well, we could, you know, really take a very, very, very,
very.
What might seem like aninsignificant moment that turned
into a very big moment.
So in a lot of my reflectionsI'm realizing that, because I've
had a tendency to always thinkI will be something amazing in
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the future, I will be worthy inthe future, I will be famous in
the future, like whatever.
It's always in the future, andso that has prevented me from
living and enjoying what's infront of me, because I'm so
focused on the future.
So this week, having four kids,do I go to everything?
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I can't literally go toeverything, and so I usually
tell the kids I'm like, hey, ifyou really want me at something,
just make sure you tell me thatthis is really important to you
, make sure you tell me thatthis is really important to you.
And so my littlest, it wasmuffins for moms, muffins for
moms at daycare, and it was likea really short window and I
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already had something booked andso I thought, oh, he's going to
be fine, he doesn't care.
Normally dad's the one thatdrops him off.
So but Brian goes, laura, hereally wants you to go.
And that was the moment whereI'm like that was it.
I'm going to cry, like oldLaura made up an excuse that you
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know my, my schedule is tooimportant.
It's easier to work, yeah, butI didn't choose that, so I
rearranged stuff and I have apicture of me and Crosby
enjoying five minutes.
Five minutes together, that'sall it was, but he was so
excited to hand me his gift andhave me open it.
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And this is what this is like,working through these character
defaults, and I'm like, wow, howmany times have I done that
when I thought something was soinsignificant, glossed over it
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and missed it, and now I'mseeing it.
I'm seeing the moments.
Mondo (16:31):
One like.
Laura (16:33):
Is it very awesome that Mondo knows me well enough to
have like a box of tissues rightnext to me now.
Oh my gosh.
Mondo (16:41):
Oh man, about that story is when you go watch, like a TV
show or a movie that has some atleast PG-13 drama, that type of
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scenario you see play out a lotwhere, like, the daughter or
the son has this big event Right, and the active parent has this
big deal that they're supposedto close, and the conflict is
these two things happening atthe same time and which one are
you going to pick?
(17:23):
And clearly, in the beginningof the movie the parent or the
person of significance picks thebigger deal, because then
that's what makes the movieunfold.
But it sounds like you're onthe other side, right?
You're at the end of the moviewhere you're like I've seen how
this story plays out.
When I don't pick these smallmoments that seem insignificant,
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I've learned that they areactually like huge
transformative moments that pourinto my kids in a way that I
just didn't even know or didn'teven recognize before.
And now you're like I can't notbe here and do these things and
experience it, yeah.
Laura (18:03):
Yeah, and then, you know, it spilled over.
We had a last minute change tothe schedule and, um, we had
tickets to the saints game andit was supposed to be grandma,
grandpa, and then they decidedthey were going to go do
something else with some another, uh, grandkid.
And so Brian's like do you wantto come?
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And I'm like absolutely.
Mondo (18:25):
Yeah.
Laura (18:25):
Like I didn't even miss the beat.
Old Laura would have not comeDang and I had so much fun.
Mondo (18:35):
I had so much fun, it's so cool.
One of the things that I knowyou've been saying lately is
like tied to these micro momentsor just making these small
incremental changes and thesethings that you're saying.
It's not like groundbreaking,Like I had to go get rid of my
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car and my boat and do all thesethings Right.
Laura (18:57):
It's like I didn't have to blow up my life.
Mondo (18:59):
Yeah, and this thing that like I'll just call it a
mustard seed moment, right, likeit's so small when you really
look at like the grand scheme ofall the things happening in the
world to go to your son'sschool for five minutes, but
like that mustard seed that youplanted there is going to
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forever live in his heart, right.
And I feel like, as parents, wehave so many opportunities
where that type of situationpresents itself and making that
small pause and pivot and goingand doing that thing.
Laura (19:34):
Yeah.
Mondo (19:35):
Could literally change somebody's life.
Oh my gosh.
Laura (19:37):
And it even happened today.
So getting my haircuts, youknow, usually it's it's a whole
process and usually, as she'sdoing the foils, I'm working and
doing something.
I'm like you know what?
I'm going to, just chat.
I'm going to chat and we hadjust an amazing conversation and
things I would have neverlearned about this woman and we
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ended up having a moment aboutjust stuff with our kids and we
hugged and it was just beautiful.
I'm like I would have missedhaving an intimate moment with
another human being, and so Ithink the reframe for me is how
many lives can I touch today?
And it can be super small, likewaving to someone in the
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neighborhood I think about.
I'm like I wave to everyone now, just wave.
I'm like someone's walkingtheir dog, I'll wave.
It's just, it's so simple andwe miss.
We miss it.
Mondo (20:39):
Let me tell you how real that is.
So when you picked me up theother day to go to C9, and as I
was coming out, a person withtheir dog is walking by and you
just started waving and talkingto the dog and I'm like I would
never do that I'm like talkingand you're like what the heck?
what's going on here, but likeit's just your natural, just
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energy, your style.
You're just like.
This is me, this is what fillsmy cup and it works for laura.
The reason why I'm saying thisis because if you're listening
to this and you're like man, isLaura saying I have to be way
more extroverted and talk toeverybody, like, if that's you,
yes, but if not, absolutely not,because there's always a Mondo
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that's like he's just chillingin the backseat waiting for
Laura to be done, talking to thedog, and that's okay too, right
?
Oh man, it's so fun I think wecan.
Laura (21:32):
We can appreciate each other's gifts more yeah like
you're built so differently thanI am.
But I can look at you and saywow, like again, like we had
that whole conversation of we'reeach a creation, we're each a
masterpiece, like look at whatgod created in mondo and that's.
That doesn't work for me, but Ican still appreciate it.
Mondo (21:52):
Can we just make that the standard in the world, like,
like, really, I just feel likeas human beings, embodying that
standard, or leveling up ourstandard, where we look across
the room or across the street orin the next cubicle at work and
you're just like yo, you are amasterpiece, and then go in the
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bathroom and look in the mirrorand be like, oh, I'm a
masterpiece too, and just thatunconditional love type of lens
is what I feel like we need inthe world just in general.
When it comes to likefulfillment and being a heavenly
human.
We have to, I believe, justlevel up our standard on like
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how we show up for other humansjust in every single moment.
Like doing our best to show upwith unconditional love, even if
you don't say anything out loud, even if somebody walks by you
and you have this thought inyour mind that may be a judgy
thought, like how do you juststop that thought and just in my
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mind, create this mental storywhere I'm just slaying this
person that did nothing wrong tome, but like you're just
walking around with all thisjudgment?
It's what you've been sayingfor a long time, laura, which is
like it starts with yourthoughts.
Laura (23:22):
Yes.
Mondo (23:23):
Right.
And so how do you stop thosethoughts before?
Laura (23:27):
That's mine.
Mondo (23:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that, yeah, they're different.
You got the fly swatter, i'smine.
Yeah, yeah, um that, yeah,they're different.
You got the fly swatter.
Laura (23:33):
I'm more like Gumby and I'm trying to like do the
Play-Doh thing and make it work,but uh, but if, if you really
think about it I mean, I'm I'mreflecting on some of my
coaching conversations in thepast couple of months too, and a
lot of times we want to assignjudgment to another, like
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they're in the wrong, I'm in theright, and so what I've been
playing around with is okay.
Let's maybe think of a storyabout how that person came to be
that way, and so I make upthese stories.
I say, what if this person grewup in an environment where they
were beaten as a child, or theydidn't experience love in their
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home?
Or what, if, what, if, what, if, what, if?
Just to have someone think, oh,oh, maybe that's why they act
that way, you know, to see itfrom another lens, and so
whenever I see someone like withpoor behavior that's my default
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is I'm like oh, what happenedto you?
Mondo (24:46):
Yeah, yeah, somewhere along the way there was a
unhealthy relationship with loveor lack thereof.
Right, like, like if someone isjust bombarded and showered
with love, their entire lifethey become an embodiment of
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love they become an embodimentof love.
Laura (25:12):
I actually have a question for you because I've
been getting this a lot People.
I love this that I give away mycell phone, so cause I love
just doing the quick hits andtexting back and forth and and
um, sending voice memos.
So this is someone.
I'm not going to say who it is,but I think I want.
I'd love to hear your responseto this, because I've gotten
different iterations of thistype of text message a lot in
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the last few weeks.
Hi, friend, I'm having realintrusive thoughts about
quitting my job, even though Ihave literally nothing lined up
and bought a house and havehardly enough to sustain to not
have a job.
I'm so over the stress, I'm soover the chaos, the early
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mornings, the late nights.
It's not worth it.
I'm at a breaking point and Iwant to walk away.
But financially I needsomething until I get a new job.
Anyway, I know you know this sowell, so I feel like I should
message you.
That is coming at me left andright right now.
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So I'm going to A wise one Awise one A wise one A wise one A
wise one A wise one.
Mondo (26:30):
So I'm going to answer this question from a like.
I'm going to zoom out, and whenI zoom out, the question that I
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ask is what do I want mySuccessful story to say?
So you're at this intersection,you don't like your job, you
want to quit.
The story where you land, whereyou end up, is going to be the
perfect spot.
So if you, if your mindset is,in three years, I know I'm going
to be in this spot, that I wantto be in, my question then
becomes spot that I want to bein.
My question then becomes whatstory do you want to tell?
Or what story do you want toembody to fill in the gap
between now and three years.
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So if you have high risktolerance and you're like, yeah,
the people that I want toinfluence, I want to influence
the human who is willing to riskit all for this dream, that's
three years away, Like they justwant to like, like grind it out
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and lean into their faith, likeradical faith, Like they just
say to themselves I want to be arepresentative of radical faith
and put everything in God'shand.
And that story, how I endure,how I continue to show up for
other people with grace andkindness and care, how I still
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show up for my kids even thoughthings are stressful, to to say
you want to walk the path toembody that character.
That is a way.
Another way is less dramaticbut still equally as challenging
, which is, well, I'm going toendure staying in this role but
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trying to reorient myself, orhow I look at this job, or how
the money that comes in fromthis job gives me enough freedom
that I can start this sidehustle.
But I got to stay up from 10 to2 am every day to get this
other thing started.
It's still a story where it'slike I had to do something
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extremely challenging, extremelyhard.
I had to endure this stretchwhere, like I had to lean into
my faith so much to get it done.
I feel like both paths areequally as challenging.
Which story do you want?
Laura (29:22):
Which story do you want?
Mondo (29:24):
Just pick one, like it's going to be dope at the end, no
matter what, but you just got topick the story and then go all
in on the story that you pick.
So I feel like you and I havebeen great representatives of
that of just you're, you're theextreme.
Yeah, I'm the extreme extremeyeah, your radical faith looks
different than mine does, butstill it weighs the same.
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I always say this, this like Iwas built in a way that my risk
tolerance I can carry a thousandpounds right.
Your thousand pounds lookdifferent because you're
carrying weight and four kidsand a home and a husband.
Like it's a different thousandpounds.
I don't even know what it meansto make a decision with four
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kids to worry about.
I have no idea the stress thatcomes with that of like man, do
I quit my job?
Do I go have this courageousconversation with my boss?
Do I post stuff online onsocial media where other people
are like oh is Laura, you know?
Like those type of things thatyou had to qualify and say I'm
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going to be brave today, I'mgoing to do this thing, even
though I'm risking it all forthis family that I love and a
lot of things around my shoulder.
Like that's scary.
On the flip side, I'm like Ihave a lot of support in my
family and I have one kid and Iknow even if I hit rock bottom,
(30:59):
there's enough humans that willcatch her, and so like the faith
is equivalent right the radicalfaith is equivalent.
Right, the radical faith isequivalent, but they're two
completely different stories.
Laura (31:12):
I just feel so called to tell people your kids are
watching you.
They don't listen to what yousay.
They don't listen to what yousay, they watch what you do.
Period, End of sentence.
(31:32):
Oh yeah, you can go be what youwant.
You can go do what you want.
I want you to follow yourdreams, but, yeah, me I can't
because of insert the blank.
What are we teaching them?
And I just feel so called likewhat are you doing?
What are you teaching them?
Mondo (31:56):
One of the things that I would say to piggyback the 100%
accuracy of that statement, it'snot only like what are you
doing, it's also how are youshowing up when you do it?
So, like one of the privilegesthat I've had is middle class
(32:20):
life Right, like it doesn'tmatter if it was growing up or
in college or as an adult.
There were certain privilegesthat I have always had and
certain things that I had neverhad to worry about, ever had to
worry about, just with a middleclass, loving family, and
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because of that, my characterwas always able to show up as,
like the kind dude Right Like Ihad enough repetition of, I
flexed the muscle enough thatwherever I showed up like
Mondo's kind, he's a he's a goodguy.
So when I went through a seasonof like well, let me risk it
all, I feel like God was likeare you just a good guy Cause
(33:05):
you had middle-class privileges,or can you still be that good
guy at the bottom of the barrel,or can you still be that good
guy at the bottom of the barrel?
And it becomes that test to seelike what character are you
going to be in this story.
And so for me it was like veryimportant, no matter what, to
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always be that good guycharacter.
Without it, it didn't matterwhat I had.
I could not cuss somebody outbecause, like all of a sudden, I
, somebody, has more than me andI'm pissed off and whatever.
Like I just could not and Idon't want to say stoop to that
level, but I couldn't go below astandard that I set for myself.
And so when it just comesstrictly to your character right
(33:50):
, like when're like God isjudging my character and Jesus
is the standard when are youlanding as your character?
Are you coming home sofrustrated that you're taking
everything out on your kidsbecause of some choices that you
made?
Or are you saying I made thesechoices, god.
Laura (34:11):
I know.
And now I'm here, right?
Yeah, I mean, you want a reallife example.
Oh, my goodness, I had to catchmyself.
I was starting to complain atall these boys who don't know
how to pick up after themselves,and I was like I became my
mother, like poor me having toclean up after all you dudes.
(34:35):
And then I stopped myself.
I'm like it is a privilege, itis an honor.
I am going to miss this one dayas I am cleaning up and, yes, I
plenty of times get theminvolved but I had to stop
myself and think what are youdoing?
Laura?
(34:55):
You are so lucky you have sucha rich life with all of these
children and all of theseactivities.
And yeah, what did you expect?
Your house to be clean all thetime.
Like what?
You're the go-to house.
You're the house that kids feelcomfortable coming over.
You're the go-to house.
You're the house that kids feelcomfortable coming over.
And, yeah, they eat a lot offood and yeah, they have crumbs
(35:18):
all over the place.
Apparently, my son really likesthe seaweed stuff and the
seaweed gets everywhere, thedried seaweed.
I'm like dude.
Mondo (35:26):
Yeah, yeah.
But, I have to catch myself fromcomplaining.
One of the things that you justsaid about you being the go-to
house is it made me think aboutmy dad.
So my dad is the go-to house,the sanctuary for anybody at any
(35:53):
time, no matter what thesituation is Right.
And, as the person who isalways willing to risk it all,
my dad is instrumental in myjourney.
He's like, he is the rock that,no matter what, I can always
pivot back to.
So the reason why I'm bringingthis up is because, you know,
(36:15):
laura Breadwinner wants to help,support humans and influence
everybody.
She crossed paths with Mondo,our heavenly human.
I want to like, deliver andoffer a different framework to
the world.
And, yes, and the human, themother or father who goes to
(36:37):
work every day and endures a jobevery day, but they are the
security blanket, they are therock of the family.
Just know, you are so importantto the story Like.
I don't want to overlook thisperson at all because I used to
(37:00):
always say, like, like dad oruncles or whatever, like you
should go do more or be more orwhatever.
But I recognize that that's notthe story that they chose,
which gives me the freedom to gomake the big, audacious, crazy,
outside-the-box choices.
Laura (37:20):
And they love watching you.
Exactly, they love watching you, yes, yes, and that brings them
so much joy.
Mondo (37:26):
Man.
So if that's you, if you arethe person that's just like, I'm
here to be the rock to alloweveryone around you to perch on
your branches like I applaud you, I want to give you your
flowers because it's possiblethat the people who are still
out there running around doingall the stuff they may not
(37:47):
notice your value yet.
Laura (37:49):
Yeah.
Mondo (37:50):
And I just want to like really just shout you out and
say thank you.
Laura (37:54):
Thank you for being the firm foundation.
Mondo (37:55):
Yes, yeah, and I just want to like, like, really just
shout you out and say thank you,thank you for being the firm
foundation.
Yes, yes, everybody's role,everybody, is a masterpiece, as
we've been saying, right, andappreciate them Love them, oh
man.
Laura (38:07):
Don't want to change.
I remember.
I remember thinking like oh,that must be boring who?
I remember thinking like oh,that must be boring who would
want to do that?
Right, I'm like yes, becausewe're all different.
Mondo (38:17):
We're all different.
Laura (38:19):
So I also think that part of my role is just to stay so
close to all the humans.
So another, just this is justanother human.
Did God use you today to tellme something I needed to hear,
and this came out in the emailwhen your worth is
(38:40):
performance-based, your peace isalways at risk.
Mondo (38:47):
That's bars.
Laura (38:48):
That's why I'm here not to motivate you to do more, but
to invite you back to who youalready are beneath the doing,
and this person's like Laura.
Do you know how much I neededthis today?
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I echo you are not what you do,you are light, you are love,
(39:09):
you are whole, even when you'reresting, especially then, and
she's like I'm inviting morerest in this weekend.
I'm like, yeah, girl, youinvite more rest in how many of
you need to rest.
How many of you need to rest?
Mondo (39:27):
You walking us through that message just really makes
me think of how I don't want tosay how you see yourself, but
how I see you.
When you say those things outloud, it's like you know, laura
is an instrument for God'sdivine will first Like like.
(39:49):
You show up and you're like whatam I supposed to do, or what am
I supposed to say, to add valueto these other humans?
God, use me for a hug or a winkor a high five or something so
I can add value to as manyhumans as I possibly can.
And because you anchor on that,as you said when we started
(40:12):
this podcast, god is going tosolve a lot of the business
problems that you're no longerworried about, because he's like
oh, you want to choose to bethe greatest cheerleader of all
time for, like, like, a fruitful, fulfilling life.
Yes, oh, okay, cool, that's theseat you want to own, that's
(40:33):
the role you want to play.
I'll make sure I send you Jason, because Jason really likes to
build the system, right.
He wants to build the business,to allow you to go be that
person right, because you choseto want to be that person.
God's going to send you otherhumans to sit in the other seats
(40:53):
to make sure that you cancontinue to serve in the way
that you're serving.
Laura (40:58):
Okay, I'm going to try not to cry again, but that is
what's held me back is thinkingthat I have to do it all and
realizing that there's otherpeople who want to help when you
have a mission and people canfeel that people are people who
want to help when you have amission and people can feel that
people are attracted to want tohelp.
And I didn't get that.
I didn't understand, it, didn'tconnect until very recently and
(41:25):
it's I've been, I have beentaught how to give and give and
give and give, and the last fourweeks have been all this
receiving, receiving, and that'sthe uncomfortable feeling I
have.
Is like for someone who's soused to doing and giving, and
doing and giving, to rest and toreceive and to have these
(41:52):
moments of stillness where Iknow it's all being orchestrated
.
Like I am in awe, mondo, ofwhat's happening, like this
story is unfolding right now andI'm like what's going to happen
next?
What's going to be the nextchapter?
Mondo (42:09):
laura has really big dreams I swear I'm in my because
we've done a podcast at yourhouse before.
I just see you like runningdown the stairs every morning,
like it's christmas, like what'sgonna happen today.
That's just how I'm envisioningyour morning, but it's awesome.
Laura (42:30):
You also think I wake up like that your morning.
But it's awesome.
You also think I wake up likethat, not quite like popping out
of bed, like let's go, nothat's fair, that's it, but I'm
gonna keep the mental motto likelaura's ready after a coffee
then.
Mondo (42:47):
Um, so there must be a.
I know you talked about this inyour journal of just like being
in this receiving state andallowing other people to step in
, but like that kind of has tobe a little a different kind of
challenge, right, likesurrendering some of those
(43:10):
agreements that you've made,rendering some of those
agreements that you've made andso is there.
Is there a way for you to speakto that a little bit?
Because allowing, when you haveyou, when you have had your
hands on all the things, andsaying I can do all the things,
and then all of a sudden otherpeople stepping into your life
and saying take your hands offseven of the 10, that has to be
(43:34):
like.
This is all faith walk.
Laura (43:35):
There are people stepping into your life and saying take
your hands off seven of the ten.
That has to be like hard.
This is all a faith walk.
It's all a faith walk Like thatis.
The only answer to that is Ijust believe God is doing this
to serve a much, much, muchhigher.
Like.
This is not me.
This is me surrendering.
Mondo (43:55):
Yeah.
Laura (43:56):
And so I, like you know, I'm like telling my human, stop,
human from trying to figure itout, stop it.
Like I know you want to go inand figure it all out.
Mondo (44:10):
That's not supposed to be what you're doing right now.
You're doing right now Can?
Can we like you know how, inclassrooms, right In elementary
classrooms like when you givesomebody a star, like I feel
like what you just said is likelike let's star that because
there are some humans, like aLaura, like a Mondo, whose role
is not to figure it out, likewho have completely surrendered
(44:35):
to God's will and we are goingto pause and pivot and show up
for other humans and do thething that's going to make the
story better right now forourselves or whoever is in the
room.
Like that is our role to bepresent and show up in the best
way that we can right now.
And when we consistently dothat, there are other humans who
(44:59):
step in and figure out the nowand the later right, who build
the plan, who do the otherthings, and so when you
self-assess right, think, whereare you in that, are you the
right now person and you canlive in the present and you can
have this abundance, thisuncompromising faith that, like,
(45:21):
if you live in the moment,everything else is like, nah, I
need to, I need to plan for likea week or a month, or like I
need to build some systems, butI'm down to build those systems
for that person in the front whois the true believer and when I
(45:42):
say true believer I mean we'relike that is where their true
essence is to just believe andlisten to God, no matter what
Like know who you are in thestory, know the character that
you would love to be in thestory and just be that.
I think it's golden time, goldenhour, golden season, golden
(46:06):
everything.
Like there's so muchopportunity, as you've always
said.
Like there's a shift happeningin the world.
There's a shift happening, asyou've always said, like there's
a shift happening in the world.
Laura (46:11):
There's a shift happening .
Mondo (46:13):
And we have an opportunity to align with God's
will.
You can choose to go, do ithowever you want to do it and
think that you're in control.
But I'm telling you, the humans, or at least the team led by a
human who is being guided by Godand surrendering to God's plan,
(46:37):
they are going to have an epic,epic unfolding of their story.
Laura (46:45):
And happily ever after.
Mondo (46:50):
I love that close.
This is a happily ever afterepisode, happily.
Laura (46:52):
ever after episode, happily ever after until next
time, peace.
Well, welcome to the Heavenly Human Podcast, where we
help you pause and pivottowards true fulfillment.
My name is Mondo and I am herewith the one and only Laura King
.
Laura (00:10):
Good afternoon.
Mondo (00:12):
Hey, we are here.
Laura (00:13):
Oh, can we just celebrate ?
Someone just had a little bigbirthday.
Happy birthday, Mondo.
Mondo (00:21):
Thank you, the big four zero.
You know, I grew up with somecousins who were a year older
than me, and so they always usedto bully me when I was a kid,
right, like I always got thelast cover when we made tents or
like a small chair or whatever.
So then when they turned 40before me, I got to mess with
(00:42):
them like how old they were, andof course as soon as I turned
40, they hit me up like oh yeah,you're here with us now, you're
in your 40s.
And so I've been like having toonboard this like 40 year old
weight as if it's supermeaningful.
But I feel good, I feel wise, Ifeel wise.
I feel wise, like there's adifferent wisdom at 40.
Laura (01:06):
Maybe we'll see how it unfolds, but there was no like I
don't know.
I feel like some people likewhen they turn 40 it's like a
I've got to go change a bunch ofthings in my life, you know,
like almost like, almost like apanic oh no, it was uh yesterday
, yesterday, when my partner anddaughter came in with the
(01:28):
balloons and the gifts and, ofcourse, the Trace Leche cake.
Yes.
Mondo (01:35):
It was such a just, meaningful moment because I'm
not even really a gift person,but there was just something
about how that exchange happenedthat like made me feel like
proud in our relationship, justlike, oh, you two humans I think
there's other people that valueme, but like you two humans
(01:57):
just really like, value thisconnection and it was just a
good vibe, good spirit, goodenergy, and it was just the
three of us that had ourintimate celebration.
But I really felt loved and itwas just a memorable moment.
Laura (02:15):
And some of us want to throw big parties, and for you,
it was just the three of you.
Mondo (02:19):
Just the three of us.
So here we are 40.
I feel like my brother saidwhat's next?
My younger brother he is, Ithink, 19 he said now what?
And I was like had to use hislanguage.
So I was like, oh, you know, inlike dragon ball z, where
somebody gets out of thehyperbolic time chamber, it only
(02:42):
makes sense to people thatwatch this anime.
Uh, like I feel like I just gotout of this hyperbolic time
chamber.
It only makes sense to peoplethat watch this anime.
Like I feel like I just got outof this chamber and now like I
can go and like execute onsomething because, like I've
been practicing by myself, I'mlike building a better character
and so I'm ready to like takeon whatever the next challenge
is.
So that's one of my- Lifebegins at 40.
Life begins at 40.
(03:03):
So, yeah, and in addition to mybirthday, I mean, you came in
here with a fresh haircut, soare we celebrating that too.
Laura (03:14):
I mean, I get a fresh haircut like every three months,
so it's fine.
Mondo (03:18):
It's fine, it's good, all right.
Laura (03:20):
Thank you for noticing Many men don't do that.
Thank you for noticing Many mendon't do that.
Mondo (03:25):
So, just if I'm being fully transparent, laura said,
hey, I'm getting my hair done,and so I was like, oh nice, you
got your hair done, because Itypically don't notice things
like that, but some other men doand applaud to those men who
notice that thing.
Outside of that, anything elsepositive been going on, some aha
(03:45):
moments like what's beenhappening in life since
everything is accelerating.
Laura (03:49):
Okay, everything is accelerating like from a from a.
I'm learning this new way ofbeing and it's so different from
the old way that it's almostlike every morning oh my, am I
gonna do the new way or the oldway?
Oh no, like the new way thatit's almost like every morning,
am I going to do the new way orthe old way?
Oh no, like the new way is waymore fun, but it just seems so
(04:11):
counter cultural that all of thedoing, the wrapped up in the
hurrying and the racing, and forme it's just like slowing
everything down and reallyshowing up for the things I do
say yes to and knowing like Godis just orchestrating stuff in
(04:34):
the background that I don't evenhave to touch, that I just know
because I have it so in myspirit, like this is going to
happen if God wills it to happen, and I'm cool either way, but
it's just holding this intentionof.
I am meant to be thislighthouse for people and I'm
(05:01):
getting so much better atknowing myself and knowing the
environments that I thrive andthe environments that I do not
thrive, and this is justcontinuously like the
reflections.
Every day I've been journalingmore than ever, both on the
computer and in my writtenjournal, and I'm just.
(05:23):
I feel like I have had a decadeworth of personal growth
condensed in a month, likethat's how fast it feels in
terms of my evolution.
Mondo (05:37):
I love that.
I love that.
One of the things that you saidwas you know the environments
that you thrive in versus theones that you don't.
Can you say a little bit moreabout that?
Laura (05:49):
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to put into words, it's more of
a frequency.
I can just tell when Iliterally step into rooms, if
this is a room I'm meant to bein or not.
When I literally step intorooms, if this is a room I'm
meant to be in or not, because Ifeel the energy in there and I
don't know if that's just a justa new revelation that I'm
(06:13):
having of really trusting myintuition, really trusting my
body to tell me, Um, but likeI'm cool with I.
I'm like, oh, I was going to goto this event, Just kidding.
I'm going to turn around and godo something else and feel
absolutely no guilt.
Mondo (06:30):
And that's different for you.
Laura (06:32):
Oh yeah.
Mondo (06:33):
Before you'd be like, oh, I guess I got to be here for an
hour and a half and gritthrough it and like, ah man, and
then leave and a little out ofbalance.
But now you're like, nope, I'mgoing to keep my balance, I'm
(06:59):
going to prioritize my balance.
That's awesome.
You talked about this shift,this new you, this embodying
being more than doing somethingthat you say frequently.
Has this shift like did youlike pour everything out and
then like, let me put somethings back in?
Or did this shift happen inlike smaller, incremental steps?
Like how would you say thisshift has best work for you?
Does that question make sense?
Laura (07:22):
So my new analogy is like every morning I don't need to
drag any of the past into thenow moment, like you could
literally just burn it all down.
Think about all of the theselimiting beliefs that used to
hold me back, like I'm not goodenough, I'm not smart enough,
(07:45):
I'm not whatever enough.
I literally like they don'tcarry over.
And when they do pop into myawareness, I can see them.
I can say, okay, I see you,this program of the.
I'm not good enough.
I'm going to feel that in mybody and I'm going to say bring
it to the light.
That's not the truth of who Iam and I'm just letting it pass
(08:11):
through me.
And so every day I'm gettingbetter at recognizing when these
old programs are trying toinsert themselves.
But the analogy that I'm reallygetting better at is like your
power is in the now moment, likeyour power to create is in the
(08:32):
now moment and you don't have todrag anything from your past
into the now moment.
Mondo (08:39):
Man, as you're talking, the thing that comes to me is,
honestly, bruce Lee.
The thing that comes to me is,honestly, bruce Lee and it's
more on.
Like Bruce Lee was, like yo,I'm competing against myself.
The self of an hour ago or theself of yesterday or whatever,
like these external things inthe world is no longer something
(08:59):
that I feel like I need tocompete against, because I've
already conquered that.
Like I'm no longer chasing, I'mno longer the rabbit trying to
get the carrot.
It's literally me versus me.
And the old me got to die Right, or I got to sit set that old
me down in case I need him orher later.
But like you're talking aboutbeing in this now moment and
(09:22):
saying like the only thing thatmatters is right now and
everything can be manifestedfrom.
Laura (09:28):
Like this moment, this moment, yeah, mm-hmm.
Mondo (09:33):
Are there any other, I guess, analogies or sayings that
you feel, like you say over andover and over that like really
help you stay in the now moment.
Laura (09:44):
I know who I am, I know who.
Now, moment I know who I am, Iknow who I am, I know who I am,
like, I anchor in that truth oflike and again.
It's like we are literallyspirits in a body.
We just happen to occupy thisbody.
Our true nature is abundanceand freedom and joy and
(10:06):
possibility and limitless Like.
How can you embody that whilebeing in this human body?
Mondo (10:14):
What would you say is the last Laura challenge?
Because I hear a lot of likeLaura challenge, cause I hear a
lot of like I'm getting better.
I'm staying in the now.
Was there a moment recentlywhere you're like man, this was
(10:35):
kind of challenging and itmight've been like a a bit of a
leap of faith to to get to theother side of this challenge.
And the reason why I'm askingis because, uh, the words that
you're saying are like awesomewords, but I'm trying to bring
in like a practical example yeah, because some people might be
like this sounds good, but likeit it doesn't align with this
(10:56):
challenge.
Laura (10:57):
I'm hearing what you're saying.
It sounds good, but like I,just I still don't believe you
yeah okay, what would be anexample of a challenge?
Okay, say more words of likewhat are you envisioning?
Mondo (11:13):
There is a crossroad where you have to choose your
intuition versus the expectationof somebody else, where you
don't want to let somebody elsedown, or somebody may have
(11:34):
expected the old version ofLaura to show up a certain way,
or, historically, somebody closeto you may have been able to
have access to two hours of yourtime because Laura's always
there for me.
But now you're like no, I'mprioritizing me, I'm practicing
being in the present and I canno longer be this person for you
(11:59):
for two hours, this person foryou for two hours, but I can
give you 20 minutes Just.
I feel like the world sends uschallenges when we try to like,
pivot or elevate to a newerversion of ourselves.
So, for example, I was having acall with somebody earlier
(12:22):
today and they were just talkingabout the best practices of
business and they're likebusiness is going really well,
like these, these deals keepcoming in, or potential deals
keep coming in, even though thisperson is like I know I can
lean into my faith a little bitmore, but these deals are coming
in, but my faith is saying bestill, but these deals are
(12:44):
coming in, and so they're likejuggling.
Do I go pursue these deals or doI choose faith, and it's just
that juxtaposition of I know inmy spirit I should probably be a
little bit more patient, butbeing an entrepreneur is bottom
line, bottom line expectationsand so having to choose the
(13:09):
tough choice to maybe pauseRight and say, instead of taking
this good deal, if I pause, isthe great deal going to be on
the other side, right?
Or if I just hurry up and I'mthat rabbit and I take that
first deal and now I go like onthat path, that great deal might
not even cross my path anymorebecause, like, I've already like
(13:31):
left the station and so I justfeel like in our lives we say
universe, god, jesus Christ, Iwant to be better, jesus Christ,
I want to be better, I want todo better, I want to be in the
present moment and God saysthank you for putting in that
(13:54):
effort.
Now let me send you a littlechallenge to see if you are just
saying that out loud or ifyou're actually going to embody
the things that you say you wantto become.
And so, yeah, I think I'm justreaching for more anecdotes or
examples where we cross thatchasm.
Laura (14:08):
Well, we could, you know, really take a very, very, very,
very.
What might seem like aninsignificant moment that turned
into a very big moment.
So in a lot of my reflectionsI'm realizing that, because I've
had a tendency to always thinkI will be something amazing in
(14:28):
the future, I will be worthy inthe future, I will be famous in
the future, like whatever.
It's always in the future, andso that has prevented me from
living and enjoying what's infront of me, because I'm so
focused on the future.
So this week, having four kids,do I go to everything?
(14:53):
I can't literally go toeverything, and so I usually
tell the kids I'm like, hey, ifyou really want me at something,
just make sure you tell me thatthis is really important to you
, make sure you tell me thatthis is really important to you.
And so my littlest, it wasmuffins for moms, muffins for
moms at daycare, and it was likea really short window and I
(15:16):
already had something booked andso I thought, oh, he's going to
be fine, he doesn't care.
Normally dad's the one thatdrops him off.
So but Brian goes, laura, hereally wants you to go.
And that was the moment whereI'm like that was it.
I'm going to cry, like oldLaura made up an excuse that you
(15:41):
know my, my schedule is tooimportant.
It's easier to work, yeah, butI didn't choose that, so I
rearranged stuff and I have apicture of me and Crosby
enjoying five minutes.
Five minutes together, that'sall it was, but he was so
excited to hand me his gift andhave me open it.
(16:04):
And this is what this is like,working through these character
defaults, and I'm like, wow, howmany times have I done that
when I thought something was soinsignificant, glossed over it
(16:24):
and missed it, and now I'mseeing it.
I'm seeing the moments.
Mondo (16:31):
One like.
Laura (16:33):
Is it very awesome that Mondo knows me well enough to
have like a box of tissues rightnext to me now.
Oh my gosh.
Mondo (16:41):
Oh man, about that story is when you go watch, like a TV
show or a movie that has some atleast PG-13 drama, that type of
(17:03):
scenario you see play out a lotwhere, like, the daughter or
the son has this big event Right, and the active parent has this
big deal that they're supposedto close, and the conflict is
these two things happening atthe same time and which one are
you going to pick?
(17:23):
And clearly, in the beginningof the movie the parent or the
person of significance picks thebigger deal, because then
that's what makes the movieunfold.
But it sounds like you're onthe other side, right?
You're at the end of the moviewhere you're like I've seen how
this story plays out.
When I don't pick these smallmoments that seem insignificant,
(17:44):
I've learned that they areactually like huge
transformative moments that pourinto my kids in a way that I
just didn't even know or didn'teven recognize before.
And now you're like I can't notbe here and do these things and
experience it, yeah.
Laura (18:03):
Yeah, and then, you know, it spilled over.
We had a last minute change tothe schedule and, um, we had
tickets to the saints game andit was supposed to be grandma,
grandpa, and then they decidedthey were going to go do
something else with some another, uh, grandkid.
And so Brian's like do you wantto come?
(18:23):
And I'm like absolutely.
Mondo (18:25):
Yeah.
Laura (18:25):
Like I didn't even miss the beat.
Old Laura would have not comeDang and I had so much fun.
Mondo (18:35):
I had so much fun, it's so cool.
One of the things that I knowyou've been saying lately is
like tied to these micro momentsor just making these small
incremental changes and thesethings that you're saying.
It's not like groundbreaking,Like I had to go get rid of my
(18:56):
car and my boat and do all thesethings Right.
Laura (18:57):
It's like I didn't have to blow up my life.
Mondo (18:59):
Yeah, and this thing that like I'll just call it a
mustard seed moment, right, likeit's so small when you really
look at like the grand scheme ofall the things happening in the
world to go to your son'sschool for five minutes, but
like that mustard seed that youplanted there is going to
(19:21):
forever live in his heart, right.
And I feel like, as parents, wehave so many opportunities
where that type of situationpresents itself and making that
small pause and pivot and goingand doing that thing.
Laura (19:34):
Yeah.
Mondo (19:35):
Could literally change somebody's life.
Oh my gosh.
Laura (19:37):
And it even happened today.
So getting my haircuts, youknow, usually it's it's a whole
process and usually, as she'sdoing the foils, I'm working and
doing something.
I'm like you know what?
I'm going to, just chat.
I'm going to chat and we hadjust an amazing conversation and
things I would have neverlearned about this woman and we
(20:01):
ended up having a moment aboutjust stuff with our kids and we
hugged and it was just beautiful.
I'm like I would have missedhaving an intimate moment with
another human being, and so Ithink the reframe for me is how
many lives can I touch today?
And it can be super small, likewaving to someone in the
(20:24):
neighborhood I think about.
I'm like I wave to everyone now, just wave.
I'm like someone's walkingtheir dog, I'll wave.
It's just, it's so simple andwe miss.
We miss it.
Mondo (20:39):
Let me tell you how real that is.
So when you picked me up theother day to go to C9, and as I
was coming out, a person withtheir dog is walking by and you
just started waving and talkingto the dog and I'm like I would
never do that I'm like talkingand you're like what the heck?
what's going on here, but likeit's just your natural, just
(21:00):
energy, your style.
You're just like.
This is me, this is what fillsmy cup and it works for laura.
The reason why I'm saying thisis because if you're listening
to this and you're like man, isLaura saying I have to be way
more extroverted and talk toeverybody, like, if that's you,
yes, but if not, absolutely not,because there's always a Mondo
(21:22):
that's like he's just chillingin the backseat waiting for
Laura to be done, talking to thedog, and that's okay too, right
?
Oh man, it's so fun I think wecan.
Laura (21:32):
We can appreciate each other's gifts more yeah like
you're built so differently thanI am.
But I can look at you and saywow, like again, like we had
that whole conversation of we'reeach a creation, we're each a
masterpiece, like look at whatgod created in mondo and that's.
That doesn't work for me, but Ican still appreciate it.
Mondo (21:52):
Can we just make that the standard in the world, like,
like, really, I just feel likeas human beings, embodying that
standard, or leveling up ourstandard, where we look across
the room or across the street orin the next cubicle at work and
you're just like yo, you are amasterpiece, and then go in the
(22:15):
bathroom and look in the mirrorand be like, oh, I'm a
masterpiece too, and just thatunconditional love type of lens
is what I feel like we need inthe world just in general.
When it comes to likefulfillment and being a heavenly
human.
We have to, I believe, justlevel up our standard on like
(22:40):
how we show up for other humansjust in every single moment.
Like doing our best to show upwith unconditional love, even if
you don't say anything out loud, even if somebody walks by you
and you have this thought inyour mind that may be a judgy
thought, like how do you juststop that thought and just in my
(23:13):
mind, create this mental storywhere I'm just slaying this
person that did nothing wrong tome, but like you're just
walking around with all thisjudgment?
It's what you've been sayingfor a long time, laura, which is
like it starts with yourthoughts.
Laura (23:22):
Yes.
Mondo (23:23):
Right.
And so how do you stop thosethoughts before?
Laura (23:27):
That's mine.
Mondo (23:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that, yeah, they're different.
You got the fly swatter, i'smine.
Yeah, yeah, um that, yeah,they're different.
You got the fly swatter.
Laura (23:33):
I'm more like Gumby and I'm trying to like do the
Play-Doh thing and make it work,but uh, but if, if you really
think about it I mean, I'm I'mreflecting on some of my
coaching conversations in thepast couple of months too, and a
lot of times we want to assignjudgment to another, like
(23:59):
they're in the wrong, I'm in theright, and so what I've been
playing around with is okay.
Let's maybe think of a storyabout how that person came to be
that way, and so I make upthese stories.
I say, what if this person grewup in an environment where they
were beaten as a child, or theydidn't experience love in their
(24:23):
home?
Or what, if, what, if, what, if, what, if?
Just to have someone think, oh,oh, maybe that's why they act
that way, you know, to see itfrom another lens, and so
whenever I see someone like withpoor behavior that's my default
(24:43):
is I'm like oh, what happenedto you?
Mondo (24:46):
Yeah, yeah, somewhere along the way there was a
unhealthy relationship with loveor lack thereof.
Right, like, like if someone isjust bombarded and showered
with love, their entire lifethey become an embodiment of
(25:08):
love they become an embodimentof love.
Laura (25:12):
I actually have a question for you because I've
been getting this a lot People.
I love this that I give away mycell phone, so cause I love
just doing the quick hits andtexting back and forth and and
um, sending voice memos.
So this is someone.
I'm not going to say who it is,but I think I want.
I'd love to hear your responseto this, because I've gotten
different iterations of thistype of text message a lot in
(25:34):
the last few weeks.
Hi, friend, I'm having realintrusive thoughts about
quitting my job, even though Ihave literally nothing lined up
and bought a house and havehardly enough to sustain to not
have a job.
I'm so over the stress, I'm soover the chaos, the early
(25:57):
mornings, the late nights.
It's not worth it.
I'm at a breaking point and Iwant to walk away.
But financially I needsomething until I get a new job.
Anyway, I know you know this sowell, so I feel like I should
message you.
That is coming at me left andright right now.
(26:25):
So I'm going to A wise one Awise one A wise one A wise one A
wise one A wise one.
Mondo (26:30):
So I'm going to answer this question from a like.
I'm going to zoom out, and whenI zoom out, the question that I
(27:18):
ask is what do I want mySuccessful story to say?
So you're at this intersection,you don't like your job, you
want to quit.
The story where you land, whereyou end up, is going to be the
perfect spot.
So if you, if your mindset is,in three years, I know I'm going
to be in this spot, that I wantto be in, my question then
becomes spot that I want to bein.
My question then becomes whatstory do you want to tell?
Or what story do you want toembody to fill in the gap
between now and three years.
(27:38):
So if you have high risktolerance and you're like, yeah,
the people that I want toinfluence, I want to influence
the human who is willing to riskit all for this dream, that's
three years away, Like they justwant to like, like grind it out
(27:59):
and lean into their faith, likeradical faith, Like they just
say to themselves I want to be arepresentative of radical faith
and put everything in God'shand.
And that story, how I endure,how I continue to show up for
other people with grace andkindness and care, how I still
(28:21):
show up for my kids even thoughthings are stressful, to to say
you want to walk the path toembody that character.
That is a way.
Another way is less dramaticbut still equally as challenging
, which is, well, I'm going toendure staying in this role but
(28:45):
trying to reorient myself, orhow I look at this job, or how
the money that comes in fromthis job gives me enough freedom
that I can start this sidehustle.
But I got to stay up from 10 to2 am every day to get this
other thing started.
It's still a story where it'slike I had to do something
(29:06):
extremely challenging, extremelyhard.
I had to endure this stretchwhere, like I had to lean into
my faith so much to get it done.
I feel like both paths areequally as challenging.
Which story do you want?
Laura (29:22):
Which story do you want?
Mondo (29:24):
Just pick one, like it's going to be dope at the end, no
matter what, but you just got topick the story and then go all
in on the story that you pick.
So I feel like you and I havebeen great representatives of
that of just you're, you're theextreme.
Yeah, I'm the extreme extremeyeah, your radical faith looks
different than mine does, butstill it weighs the same.
(29:49):
I always say this, this like Iwas built in a way that my risk
tolerance I can carry a thousandpounds right.
Your thousand pounds lookdifferent because you're
carrying weight and four kidsand a home and a husband.
Like it's a different thousandpounds.
I don't even know what it meansto make a decision with four
(30:15):
kids to worry about.
I have no idea the stress thatcomes with that of like man, do
I quit my job?
Do I go have this courageousconversation with my boss?
Do I post stuff online onsocial media where other people
are like oh is Laura, you know?
Like those type of things thatyou had to qualify and say I'm
(30:35):
going to be brave today, I'mgoing to do this thing, even
though I'm risking it all forthis family that I love and a
lot of things around my shoulder.
Like that's scary.
On the flip side, I'm like Ihave a lot of support in my
family and I have one kid and Iknow even if I hit rock bottom,
(30:59):
there's enough humans that willcatch her, and so like the faith
is equivalent right the radicalfaith is equivalent.
Right, the radical faith isequivalent, but they're two
completely different stories.
Laura (31:12):
I just feel so called to tell people your kids are
watching you.
They don't listen to what yousay.
They don't listen to what yousay, they watch what you do.
Period, End of sentence.
(31:32):
Oh yeah, you can go be what youwant.
You can go do what you want.
I want you to follow yourdreams, but, yeah, me I can't
because of insert the blank.
What are we teaching them?
And I just feel so called likewhat are you doing?
What are you teaching them?
Mondo (31:56):
One of the things that I would say to piggyback the 100%
accuracy of that statement, it'snot only like what are you
doing, it's also how are youshowing up when you do it?
So, like one of the privilegesthat I've had is middle class
(32:20):
life Right, like it doesn'tmatter if it was growing up or
in college or as an adult.
There were certain privilegesthat I have always had and
certain things that I had neverhad to worry about, ever had to
worry about, just with a middleclass, loving family, and
(32:43):
because of that, my characterwas always able to show up as,
like the kind dude Right Like Ihad enough repetition of, I
flexed the muscle enough thatwherever I showed up like
Mondo's kind, he's a he's a goodguy.
So when I went through a seasonof like well, let me risk it
all, I feel like God was likeare you just a good guy Cause
(33:05):
you had middle-class privileges,or can you still be that good
guy at the bottom of the barrel,or can you still be that good
guy at the bottom of the barrel?
And it becomes that test to seelike what character are you
going to be in this story.
And so for me it was like veryimportant, no matter what, to
(33:26):
always be that good guycharacter.
Without it, it didn't matterwhat I had.
I could not cuss somebody outbecause, like all of a sudden, I
, somebody, has more than me andI'm pissed off and whatever.
Like I just could not and Idon't want to say stoop to that
level, but I couldn't go below astandard that I set for myself.
And so when it just comesstrictly to your character right
(33:50):
, like when're like God isjudging my character and Jesus
is the standard when are youlanding as your character?
Are you coming home sofrustrated that you're taking
everything out on your kidsbecause of some choices that you
made?
Or are you saying I made thesechoices, god.
Laura (34:11):
I know.
And now I'm here, right?
Yeah, I mean, you want a reallife example.
Oh, my goodness, I had to catchmyself.
I was starting to complain atall these boys who don't know
how to pick up after themselves,and I was like I became my
mother, like poor me having toclean up after all you dudes.
(34:35):
And then I stopped myself.
I'm like it is a privilege, itis an honor.
I am going to miss this one dayas I am cleaning up and, yes, I
plenty of times get theminvolved but I had to stop
myself and think what are youdoing?
Laura?
(34:55):
You are so lucky you have sucha rich life with all of these
children and all of theseactivities.
And yeah, what did you expect?
Your house to be clean all thetime.
Like what?
You're the go-to house.
You're the house that kids feelcomfortable coming over.
You're the go-to house.
You're the house that kids feelcomfortable coming over.
And, yeah, they eat a lot offood and yeah, they have crumbs
(35:18):
all over the place.
Apparently, my son really likesthe seaweed stuff and the
seaweed gets everywhere, thedried seaweed.
I'm like dude.
Mondo (35:26):
Yeah, yeah.
But, I have to catch myself fromcomplaining.
One of the things that you justsaid about you being the go-to
house is it made me think aboutmy dad.
So my dad is the go-to house,the sanctuary for anybody at any
(35:53):
time, no matter what thesituation is Right.
And, as the person who isalways willing to risk it all,
my dad is instrumental in myjourney.
He's like, he is the rock that,no matter what, I can always
pivot back to.
So the reason why I'm bringingthis up is because, you know,
(36:15):
laura Breadwinner wants to help,support humans and influence
everybody.
She crossed paths with Mondo,our heavenly human.
I want to like, deliver andoffer a different framework to
the world.
And, yes, and the human, themother or father who goes to
(36:37):
work every day and endures a jobevery day, but they are the
security blanket, they are therock of the family.
Just know, you are so importantto the story Like.
I don't want to overlook thisperson at all because I used to
(37:00):
always say, like, like dad oruncles or whatever, like you
should go do more or be more orwhatever.
But I recognize that that's notthe story that they chose,
which gives me the freedom to gomake the big, audacious, crazy,
outside-the-box choices.
Laura (37:20):
And they love watching you.
Exactly, they love watching you, yes, yes, and that brings them
so much joy.
Mondo (37:26):
Man.
So if that's you, if you arethe person that's just like, I'm
here to be the rock to alloweveryone around you to perch on
your branches like I applaud you, I want to give you your
flowers because it's possiblethat the people who are still
out there running around doingall the stuff they may not
(37:47):
notice your value yet.
Laura (37:49):
Yeah.
Mondo (37:50):
And I just want to like really just shout you out and
say thank you.
Laura (37:54):
Thank you for being the firm foundation.
Mondo (37:55):
Yes, yeah, and I just want to like, like, really just
shout you out and say thank you,thank you for being the firm
foundation.
Yes, yes, everybody's role,everybody, is a masterpiece, as
we've been saying, right, andappreciate them Love them, oh
man.
Laura (38:07):
Don't want to change.
I remember.
I remember thinking like oh,that must be boring who?
I remember thinking like oh,that must be boring who would
want to do that?
Right, I'm like yes, becausewe're all different.
Mondo (38:17):
We're all different.
Laura (38:19):
So I also think that part of my role is just to stay so
close to all the humans.
So another, just this is justanother human.
Did God use you today to tellme something I needed to hear,
and this came out in the emailwhen your worth is
(38:40):
performance-based, your peace isalways at risk.
Mondo (38:47):
That's bars.
Laura (38:48):
That's why I'm here not to motivate you to do more, but
to invite you back to who youalready are beneath the doing,
and this person's like Laura.
Do you know how much I neededthis today?
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I echo you are not what you do,you are light, you are love,
(39:09):
you are whole, even when you'reresting, especially then, and
she's like I'm inviting morerest in this weekend.
I'm like, yeah, girl, youinvite more rest in how many of
you need to rest.
How many of you need to rest?
Mondo (39:27):
You walking us through that message just really makes
me think of how I don't want tosay how you see yourself, but
how I see you.
When you say those things outloud, it's like you know, laura
is an instrument for God'sdivine will first Like like.
(39:49):
You show up and you're like whatam I supposed to do, or what am
I supposed to say, to add valueto these other humans?
God, use me for a hug or a winkor a high five or something so
I can add value to as manyhumans as I possibly can.
And because you anchor on that,as you said when we started
(40:12):
this podcast, god is going tosolve a lot of the business
problems that you're no longerworried about, because he's like
oh, you want to choose to bethe greatest cheerleader of all
time for, like, like, a fruitful, fulfilling life.
Yes, oh, okay, cool, that's theseat you want to own, that's
(40:33):
the role you want to play.
I'll make sure I send you Jason, because Jason really likes to
build the system, right.
He wants to build the business,to allow you to go be that
person right, because you choseto want to be that person.
God's going to send you otherhumans to sit in the other seats
(40:53):
to make sure that you cancontinue to serve in the way
that you're serving.
Laura (40:58):
Okay, I'm going to try not to cry again, but that is
what's held me back is thinkingthat I have to do it all and
realizing that there's otherpeople who want to help when you
have a mission and people canfeel that people are people who
want to help when you have amission and people can feel that
people are attracted to want tohelp.
And I didn't get that.
I didn't understand, it, didn'tconnect until very recently and
(41:25):
it's I've been, I have beentaught how to give and give and
give and give, and the last fourweeks have been all this
receiving, receiving, and that'sthe uncomfortable feeling I
have.
Is like for someone who's soused to doing and giving, and
doing and giving, to rest and toreceive and to have these
(41:52):
moments of stillness where Iknow it's all being orchestrated
.
Like I am in awe, mondo, ofwhat's happening, like this
story is unfolding right now andI'm like what's going to happen
next?
What's going to be the nextchapter?
Mondo (42:09):
laura has really big dreams I swear I'm in my because
we've done a podcast at yourhouse before.
I just see you like runningdown the stairs every morning,
like it's christmas, like what'sgonna happen today.
That's just how I'm envisioningyour morning, but it's awesome.
Laura (42:30):
You also think I wake up like that your morning.
But it's awesome.
You also think I wake up likethat, not quite like popping out
of bed, like let's go, nothat's fair, that's it, but I'm
gonna keep the mental motto likelaura's ready after a coffee
then.
Mondo (42:47):
Um, so there must be a.
I know you talked about this inyour journal of just like being
in this receiving state andallowing other people to step in
, but like that kind of has tobe a little a different kind of
challenge, right, likesurrendering some of those
(43:10):
agreements that you've made,rendering some of those
agreements that you've made andso is there.
Is there a way for you to speakto that a little bit?
Because allowing, when you haveyou, when you have had your
hands on all the things, andsaying I can do all the things,
and then all of a sudden otherpeople stepping into your life
and saying take your hands offseven of the 10, that has to be
(43:34):
like.
This is all faith walk.
Laura (43:35):
There are people stepping into your life and saying take
your hands off seven of the ten.
That has to be like hard.
This is all a faith walk.
It's all a faith walk Like thatis.
The only answer to that is Ijust believe God is doing this
to serve a much, much, muchhigher.
Like.
This is not me.
This is me surrendering.
Mondo (43:55):
Yeah.
Laura (43:56):
And so I, like you know, I'm like telling my human, stop,
human from trying to figure itout, stop it.
Like I know you want to go inand figure it all out.
Mondo (44:10):
That's not supposed to be what you're doing right now.
You're doing right now Can?
Can we like you know how, inclassrooms, right In elementary
classrooms like when you givesomebody a star, like I feel
like what you just said is likelike let's star that because
there are some humans, like aLaura, like a Mondo, whose role
is not to figure it out, likewho have completely surrendered
(44:35):
to God's will and we are goingto pause and pivot and show up
for other humans and do thething that's going to make the
story better right now forourselves or whoever is in the
room.
Like that is our role to bepresent and show up in the best
way that we can right now.
And when we consistently dothat, there are other humans who
(44:59):
step in and figure out the nowand the later right, who build
the plan, who do the otherthings, and so when you
self-assess right, think, whereare you in that, are you the
right now person and you canlive in the present and you can
have this abundance, thisuncompromising faith that, like,
(45:21):
if you live in the moment,everything else is like, nah, I
need to, I need to plan for likea week or a month, or like I
need to build some systems, butI'm down to build those systems
for that person in the front whois the true believer and when I
(45:42):
say true believer I mean we'relike that is where their true
essence is to just believe andlisten to God, no matter what
Like know who you are in thestory, know the character that
you would love to be in thestory and just be that.
I think it's golden time, goldenhour, golden season, golden
(46:06):
everything.
Like there's so muchopportunity, as you've always
said.
Like there's a shift happeningin the world.
There's a shift happening, asyou've always said, like there's
a shift happening in the world.
Laura (46:11):
There's a shift happening .
Mondo (46:13):
And we have an opportunity to align with God's
will.
You can choose to go, do ithowever you want to do it and
think that you're in control.
But I'm telling you, the humans, or at least the team led by a
human who is being guided by Godand surrendering to God's plan,
(46:37):
they are going to have an epic,epic unfolding of their story.
Laura (46:45):
And happily ever after.
Mondo (46:50):
I love that close.
This is a happily ever afterepisode, happily.
Laura (46:52):
ever after episode, happily ever after until next
time, peace.
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