April 28, 2025 • 50 mins
Have you ever felt an inexplicable shift within—where external accomplishments suddenly feel hollow and something deeper calls to you? This conversation with Laura King explores the unmistakable signs of spiritual awakening and offers guidance for those navigating this profound transformation.
Laura shares her personal catalyst moment: learning she was losing her hearing forced her to confront deeper questions about her purpose and relationships. This wake-up call mirrors what many experience—a moment that demands we see beyond our carefully constructed identities and recognize something more meaningful calling us forward.
We dive into the challenging transition from self-sufficiency to surrender, where Laura admits, "I can't believe I'm 42 years old and I've never allowed people to truly help me before." This vulnerability reveals how awakening often requires us to shed the very traits we once wore as badges of honor—our independence, our ability to "do it all."
For those feeling stuck while watching others accelerate, we offer perspective on the sacred purpose of waiting seasons. There's profound wisdom in learning to be last, in developing patience that eventually reveals unique gifts only accessible through this humbling experience.
Perhaps most powerful is our discussion of slowing down to catch "God's wave." When we stop frantically paddling and surrender to divine timing, we discover a force ready to carry us further than our own striving ever could. This metaphor beautifully captures the essence of spiritual awakening—learning to partner with something greater than ourselves rather than exhausting ourselves through force and control.
Whether you're beginning to question your purpose, feeling called to something deeper, or already in the midst of transformation, this conversation offers both validation and practical guidance for your journey. What might become possible if you stopped paddling so hard and allowed yourself to be carried?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we are back.
Miss Laura King shout out tothe podcast listeners Thanks for
joining us as we lean into thisheavenly human podcast where we
help you find fulfillment.
And we said we're just going togo with the flow.
(00:29):
No notes, just flow.
And so, podcast listeners, thisis a flow session, and so we
will start like we normallystart and just check in with
each other.
So, laura, as I check in withyou, how are you feeling?
I am having a great day, Fondoyou feeling I am having a great
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day, Mondo, that is amazing,because the last session you
were just like I almost criedbefore we started.
And so a couple of weeks later,you're just like, nope,
everything has rebounded, eventhough you rebounded right after
that, uh, the other week.
But but you're feeling good,You're feeling great.
Why is?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
that there's not.
It's going to sound so bizarre,but there's really nothing in
my external world that's changed.
It's all my internal work thatis keeping me.
So grounded is the word.
I have a tendency I get reallyexcited and I just like I think,
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all this energy above myswirling above my head and my
thing, it's like I have toground it into the earth, and so
, um, for me it's just been thiscontinual.
I'm trusting you God.
I'm trusting you God, and, likeevery day, it gets easier with
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this faith walk.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, would you ?
We probably talked about thisbefore, but just to refresh the
memory of the audience, when youactually wake up in the morning
, is there a conversation or aroutine that, like you and God
have to?
Like?
Start your day off that way soyou can feel grounded?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So, before my two feet hit the ground, it's always
a thank you, cause it's a thankyou Like I have this beautiful
gift of life and I'm thankfulthat I have this day, and I'm
grateful, and so I usuallybefore I get out of bed.
I've told this to many peoplebefore, but I'd love for you to
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know.
This too, is that I play amovie in my mind before I get up
, and that movie is all themajor scenes of the day and,
like I've already like thisscene we've already done.
Okay, it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But no, like we're laughing, we're smiling, we're
having a great time, and I getto do that throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's dope.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And like moments of I think about when I'm greeting.
Oh my gosh, it's so fun when Ipick up my son Crosby.
Every day we do this runninghug and it's just our thing.
Like he goes across theclassroom and he just runs at me
and I lift him up and I lifthim all the way up and then we
just hug and I'm like I lookforward to that, like that is a
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highlight of my day and, um,like I'm like literally tearing
up just thinking about it,because these are the moments
that I want to emphasize, likethese are the life moments.
It's not me answering 50 emails, it's like the moments with the
humans that I love.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So here's a.
So here's a super, just curiousquestion, because I love cinema
.
So when you just explained thatmoment, the way I visualized it
, it was in slow motion.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Is it in slow motion for you?
Duh, it's always in slow motion.
There's always some amazingsong in the background.
Like I literally love momentscoupled with music, there's
something that just that makesmy soul just sing.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And yeah, I don't even know Like there's other
moments during the day I'm like,yeah, that should be set to
music.
Like, yeah, that should be setto music.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Okay, oh man.
So you have a whole theater inyour mind in the morning before
you get out to bed.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
But then I do it throughout the day too, where,
let's say, I'm going into animportant meeting, I like, will
close my eyes and I will askmyself how did this get to go?
It's that pause, the intentionsthat I set.
You know like before entering ameeting that could be a really
important meeting.
I'm like God, give me the words, give me the right words that
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you would like me to use, and soeverything feels like it's just
a surrender at this point in mylife.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I think that is that's so telling.
Yes, and we have a similarstrategy.
I don't play the scene in mymind, but I am intentionally
asking God to give me the words,because I look at the story as
like all right, god, your willis going to be done regardless,
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right?
It's like an ocean wave thatnobody can stop, and so I have
made the choice to, like figureout how do I tag team with that
wave?
Like, how, how am I in serviceof that wave, which means I have
to learn how to surf it.
So I'm always asking God, likeplease give me the words to
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compliment this wave where,historically, I thought I was
the wave.
You know, I thought I createdeverything around me.
And then God was like well, letme smack you with this wave and
now you recognize that you'renot going to smack you.
Yeah, wipeout moment.
I don't know if anybody servesI never have.
But what I've experiencedthrough this journey is really
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embracing the idea of like, howdo I become a tag team partner
with God?
Of like, how do I become a tagteam partner with God?
And the environments that I'mgoing to be in are the
environments.
The outcome is the outcome, butwhat words am I saying to
support the narrative?
And for me, it's really aboutthose words, because the right
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words can change the trajectoryof the room or shift the energy.
And so to your point, god, whatwords do you want me to use?
Right In the beginning, withGod, was the word so like cool,
please help me deliver the wordsthat you would like me to use
to be in service to you.
So, tag team high five to that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
The other thing that I think is a really healthy
practice is I try to get outsideas quickly as possible in the
morning.
I mean get like sunlight on myeyes, be outside.
I mean my neighbors know thatI'm the weird one.
I take off my shoes and Iliterally ground in the grass.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Like that.
I mean, that's how much Lauraneeds to ground is.
I take off my shoes and I'mdoing my yoga poses in my front
yard.
I mean it's.
It's at this point where I'vegot neighbors that like they
love it, they absolutely love it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I'm the.
I am the oddball.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, definitely.
If you have new neighbors, movein.
They're going to be like honey.
Do you see that lady outsideevery morning?
What is she doing?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I was like why would I want to be inside when I can
be outside?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's what's going through my head.
Yeah, because my husband'sasked me like Laura, you can do
that inside.
I'm like I know, but I wouldprefer to be with the nature.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, yeah, we are opposite in that, for I, for the
most part, I am never barefootoutside.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh, you should try it , man.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
like the bottom of my feet are so sensitive, I just I
have to have socks oneverywhere.
I don't even know why.
It's been that way my wholelife, but you know, such is life
, I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Okay, whenever my boys are acting up, this is my
strategy Take off your shoes andyour socks and let's go run
around outside.
That changes their super hyperenergy and it like anytime
there's any behavior problems.
My go-to is how quickly can Iget these humans outside?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
dang, that's cool.
That's cool.
I just feel like maybe myenergy never gets that high.
I'm so chill yeah, different,like my energy needs to be
grounded yeah, yeah, andsomebody's probably like mondo,
can you come with a little bitmore energy and you're like so
chill, so maybe I should startturning on some loud music and
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rocking it out or something, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You, do you.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, what else we got?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, remember I told you I said what I would have
loved to listen to three yearsago was a podcast episode.
That was like how do you knowif you're going through an
awakening?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yes, how do you know?
How do we know?
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So not that we have all the answers, but let's ask.
I mean, think about this.
Like you told me and you'vesaid this, it's like you were
asking God for a better story,correct, this is like you were
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asking god for a better story,correct?
Right?
and I am looking back and I'mlike whoa, that was similar to
me too like god, help me write adifferent story yeah, yeah it
like what used to be satisfying,what used to fill me up, what
used to fill me up just didn'tfill me up anymore, and for me
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it was more of I wouldaccomplish something, and then I
would feel empty.
It was all the doing, doing,doing.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, let me piggyback that for a second,
because I watched a short clipfrom Will Smith the other day
because he just put out a newalbum.
I haven't listened to it, buthe's doing a lot of interviews.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
He's still making music.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right, it's like the first album he's made in 20
years or something.
I guess he challenged himselflike I'm not supposed to be able
to do this in my late 50s orwhatever, so let me make an
album, because everybody saysthat I'm not supposed to.
But in this interview he talksabout what you just said.
He's like some peopleexperience rock bottom and they
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have to make that shift.
And he was like for him heidentified cliff top and he was
like he was at the top of thecliff and going and producing a
new movie or winning an award orwhatever the thing was.
He didn't get the satisfactionthat he once got.
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And so he reflected he was justlike I clearly have to do
something different, becausethere's not a higher cliff to
climb, I have to now go down.
And so he just it was reallyfascinating because that going
down is kind of like now youhave to lean into that
introspective part, right, likeit's not about jumping off of a
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cliff, but it's just like you'veclimbed the ladder enough that,
like now you need to go withinand figure out how you find that
sense of peace without all theextra stuff.
And what I hear you say is yougot to a point in your journey
where you were like these thingsthat I'm doing is not bringing
me the type of joy that maybethey once did, because I've
accomplished these things overand over and over and if I do
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this for the next 30 years, thisis going to be a not so good
story.
And you decided to make achange.
My question to you then is wasthere a defining moment where,
like the shift that you made,you were like this is an
awakening journey, like?
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How did like that word evenenter into your awareness?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That's such a great question.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
How did I even come, even enter into your?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
awareness.
That's such a great question.
How did I even come up with theword awakening?
Because, if I'm looking back, Ithink it first actually started
when I found out that I waslosing my hearing.
That was a huge shock to think,gosh, there could be a day
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where I can't hear things.
And so I went there.
I'm like what would that belike to experience life without
sound?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Dang, that is when you talk about alarm going off
wake up?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That was a wake up.
Yeah, what, what?
Alarm going off.
Wake up?
That was a wake up like, yeah,what?
And now that I can reflect onthat, that allowed me to just
again it's like it's just askdifferent questions.
Am I it just had me pause andreflect?
I'm like, am I being who I'msupposed to be?
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Am I it just had me pause andreflect?
I'm like, am I being who I'msupposed to be?
Am I showing these people thatI love, that I love them?
Like I just I almost went, notthat I was even dying, but I
almost went towards the.
This is the end.
What would I do differently?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
How would I show up differently?
And that may.
I made some pretty big changes.
Um, that was what 2000, 17, 18.
And that's really where I was.
Um, I was pretty selfish.
I was, um, I was wanting to dothings in my time and I wasn't
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always respectful for otherpeople's time.
There was some major characterflaws that I began working on.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well, now I am starting to recognize why you
and I might be so close.
I am starting to recognize whyyou and I might be so close.
This is the first time in theentire time that I've known you
that I heard you say oh yeah, Iwas selfish, I was selfish.
I've never heard you say thatbefore, and I pretty much had
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selfish written on my forehead,and so that's fascinating.
We both had this intersectionas a moment where we had to
choose to not be selfish andembrace a life that was more
selfless and prioritizing othersin a way that we haven't done
historically and that changesthings.
I'll tell you, for me, itDriving in today, right to come
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to this podcast, I was like God.
You know I am spent, like Idon't want to use the word
exhausted because I don't thinkit's exhausted.
I don't think it's exhausted,but I'm just at this
intersection where I'm like God.
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I feel like you've taught me orguided me through a journey to
learn everything that I neededto learn being last.
And so I'm bringing this upbecause All the years of my life
where I was selfish, it wasbecause I felt it was my duty to
be in front, to lead, and sothe contrast of that was like
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nope, be last.
So surrendering all this stuffand still showing up for people.
I was always a last in the room, like everybody had quote,
unquote, more than me, moresuccess, more stuff, more
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whatever, and I had to offer away or an opportunity to pivot
being last.
And so it was like like this ishow I am coaching you to put
other people first, you have tofirst recognize what it feels
like to be last in line, and sofor me, it was this extreme
version of having to experienceselflessness by being last in
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the line.
And so I'm coming full circle,I'm driving up, and I was so
much in my head driving here Iactually went a different way.
I like missed the exit I wassupposed to take, and God knows
my mind, because I have alwayssaid like yo, god, if there's a
heaven on earth, I'm definitelyon the porch right, it's just
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something that I've always said.
And coming up this other backway or whatever, I'm like God,
you got to give me something.
And then I see a street andit's like porch way, and I'm
like I started crying because Iwas like, oh, thanks God for
giving me a sign.
Like yeah, mondo, you are spent, but you're also on the porch,
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so keep going, and so putting abow on that.
To me, that's what I feel likethe awakening process is like
Right, it's going through thisseason where you are in union,
in concert with the wisdom ofGod, and like that's what you
have awakened to, where it's notjust your thoughts, it's a
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dance with you and the creator.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And I think with all.
I think about all the thingsgoing on in the outside world
right now and I am not an avid,I'm not reading all, I'm not
getting consumed by it, but I'mlike I watch headlines.
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I'm not reading all, I'm notgetting consumed by it, but I'm
like I watch headlines.
I think about old Laura used toget so caught up in things that
were outside of her, all thethings happening in the external
world.
I let the external dictate howI felt inside, and I think the
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difference in doing this work is, oh, it's way more important
for me to generate thesefeelings inside, because that
inner world creates my outerworld.
Yeah, and so I'm like I'minteracting with just the best
people.
Like I feel like, even likeyesterday, I'm like everywhere I
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went, everyone had a smile ontheir face, everyone was kind
and compassionate and all of myinteractions were full of joy
and I had some incrediblymeaningful conversations.
I'm like, if that's heaven onearth, like let's sign me up for
a bunch more of those days.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Like there was nothing from the external that
entangled me Right, like it gotme into a fear and separation
and lack and limitation.
I'm like I was able to maintainmy vibration, my like vibration
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, unconditional love.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Right, like I get to emanate that and be that.
And then I'm seeing itreflected back at me and I'm
also like do other peopleexperience this?
Yeah, because the day beforewas not a great day.
Yeah, the day before I was well, this is going wrong and this
is going wrong, and this isgoing wrong and this is going
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wrong, and all I focused on wasall the things that were going
wrong and that was a prettycrappy day.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, one thing that you just said and it struck me
when I was on my trip lastweekend to Kentucky for
volleyball with cadence.
It was after a game we got inand Black Panther 1 and Black
Panther 2 were on just someregular TV, and I had always
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been connected to the wordWakanda because I was just like,
well, you rearrange that andit's awakened, right.
And so, as I was watching it,and so, as I was watching it,
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the material, that kind of like,separates their culture or
whatever the thing that theyhave is called vibranium.
And as I was watching it, itwas just like, yeah, that's just
symbolic, like vibranium isjust their vibration, right,
like they found a way to vibratein this way that allows them to
live this divine life orwhatever.
And so, when you were justtalking, you were just like,
yeah, like I went through thisawakening process and I choose
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to vibrate at this way andwherever I'm at, I then become
the vibe I lead because of how Iam showing up.
And so I'm just highlightingthat, because we all have our
own, like random ways in whichwe make sense of the world.
World, for me, it's story,right, find a way Like what am I
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watching, and how is it aidingor supporting my belief that
every story everywhere is aversion or a variant of the same
story, pointing to Christ, orthat vibration or that heavenly
kind of essence that you livewith right, where God is just
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walking within you.
And so I just wanted tohighlight that you saying these
words and just talking aboutyour vibration and you having
control of your environment,because your environment is just
you right and then everythingthat happens in your life is the
response to how you arechoosing to vibe that day.
Agreeing with that or a versionof that statement is part of
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the awakening process.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's am I?
Am I a victim or am I helpingcreate this?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Right, victimhood or creatorship.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Let me ask a question .
What would you say as youTurned into a creator and you
started this awakening process?
Can you think of a moment whereyou you knew for sure like all
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right, God, this is my way, thisis Laura's selfish way, you
want me to go this other way?
And you had to choose to followGod's wisdom as opposed to
yours, the way that you had beendoing it historically?
Does that question make sense?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, it does make sense.
Well, if I rewind to 2023,.
Well, if I rewind to 2023, Iwanted what is about to unfold
this year, so in 2023,.
It was why I felt like I wassupposed to do something really
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important in the world.
Why am I not doing it already?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I was so mad I wanted and the thing is like I
couldn't even put my finger onwhat it was, but I knew that it
was like I mean, this is soweird to say, but I, when I
first put up, put out my firstpursue your purpose workshop,
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I'm like everyone should sign up.
Everyone like everyone needsthis, everyone needs this.
And I was so like people justneed to sign up and I will have
three a month and I will make.
I will make all the money Ineed to make and that be good.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And in my head I'm like that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And then no one signed up, that was because I
was forcing it.
It was all in my ego.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Whereas if I think about what I'm preparing for a
purpose workshop now I pray, Ipray God, who needs to be here,
who needs to be in this room?
And people's names just come tome oh my gosh, and I just have
to nudge them.
Oh my gosh, and I just have tonudge them.
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And so many have accepted thenudge and their life is totally
different now than it was beforethat workshop.
And I don't want to say that itwas me.
I want to say that it was allGod.
So me being obedient to lettinghim dictate my actions makes
all the difference.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh, like, why did I think I had to strive and
struggle and force it, whentruly it's just allowing it like
, not forcing, and it can beeasy Like.
And then I'm just so touched bythese individuals,
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transformations, and some I playa big part in, because we
continue on and we have a, youknow, a coaching relationship
and others, you know, maybe not,but it's still a hey, I see you
doing this, I'm cheering you on, like, it's so fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's dope.
I want to talk to um, I don'teven know what I call you, but
I'm just going to say numberfour.
This is something that just iskind of in my spirit.
So Laura just talked abouthaving this belief that she was
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supposed to do something in 2023and it didn't manifest until
2025.
And through that journey, shewas like it's supposed to happen
now, now, now, now, now, andnow that it's happening two
years later, there's someexcitement around it, and when I
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say I want to talk to thisnumber four person, it's because
in my life, I feel like I'm thenumber four person, like last.
So like Laura's winning, otherpeople in my life are winning
and God is still saying Mondo,it's not your time yet.
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And so I just really want totalk to that person who notices
a bunch of people starting toaccelerate, but you're still on
pause.
I'm talking to you and I'mtalking to myself at the same
time Continue to have patience,continue to trust in God's plan,
because there's just no otherway around it.
And so, like it's just it'sresonating with me right now a
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lot because, like I'm just inthat season of enduring being
last this long, but also knowingthat there's purpose to it
Right.
So Laura said now, when I startmy purpose workshops, like I,
pray like I there's a differenttype of spirit that I bring.
And so I believe that, becauseI've chosen to be last, and some
other people who may have to belast in their circle, because
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you choose to be last, there'sgoing to be a unique gift, a
unique thing that, like you have, and you have alone, simply
because you were the one who wascalled to be last in your
circle- so, oh, that is sobeautiful, that is so.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And there are so many people that need to hear that,
yeah, the awakening, oh, that isso beautiful, that is so.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And there are so many people that need to hear that.
Yeah, the awakening.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And then I'm called to speak to the person that
things are starting toaccelerate, yeah, and some of
the things that you've beendreaming about are coming true,
coming true.
So do not forget what this isall about.
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Do not go back into ego, yeah,do not go back into ego, and ego
, I heard the other day, isedging God out.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I think that came from Wayne Dyer.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I don't know who Wayne Dyer is Edging God out.
Oh, that came from Wayne Dyer.
I don't know who Wayne Dyer isthat you got out.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Oh, I'll just Wayne Dyer.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I think I've read a dozen of his books.
He was way before his time inbringing spirituality to the
masses.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's dope.
So let me ask what, what wouldor what does it look like for
like your ego creeping back inright now?
So somebody is like okay, Laura, you've shifted.
So, like you say, don't let myego creep back in, Do you have a
?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
control, all control.
Okay, like I need to knowexactly how this turns out.
I need to have all these steps,like it's so it's all control.
It's like me gripping thesteering wheel and not letting
anyone else influence me andwhat I'm learning in real time
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is, oh my gosh, there's a muchbigger mission and movement and
I got to let people in and so,oh my God, I'm learning Laura,
who has just been the, you know,I'll figure it out on my own
(30:11):
and I don't need anyone's help.
I really I kind of liked thatfor so many years.
Like I stood in my own pride of, yeah, I got four kids and I do
this and I do that, and yeah, Ido it all.
But now I get to allow the help, allow people that want to help
(30:36):
me, and I've never done thatbefore.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
That's big.
It's big one because yourecognize like, yeah, my pride,
like you wore that like a badgeof honor.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Sure did.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I can do all this stuff, Everything.
I am undefeated and you're like.
But having a squad and leaningon other folks that you may not
have historically makes thejourney more fun.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's the richness of the relationships and I'm
getting to know people at suchan intimate level and seeing
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where they are getting hung upand like their breakthroughs and
just the shared learnings thatwe can have together.
I mean that's the richness ofthis life.
It's like when you get to do itwith other people and I don't
know, I just love to hear theirstories.
I love to just experience thewins together and the losses too
.
It's just um, I can't believe.
(31:46):
I'm 42 years old and I've neverallowed people to truly help me
before.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of humans that
have experienced somethingsimilar, but would you say that
it was more your ego and pride,you wanting to be number one in
front, or was it a distrust?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
in the capabilities of others.
I thought I could do everythingbetter I would one.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Let me shout out coalition nine, because laura
just said yes so.
Similarly, I thought I was themost capable and competent human
in the world.
So I was like, oh, all thesethings that need to happen, like
I can do them all at a solidenough level that I'm going to
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win.
And I noticed what mastery look, sound and felt like around me
in different verticals.
I was like, oh, bro, you're soconfused, meaning to myself,
you're so confused to think orbelieve that you're even close
(33:07):
to touching the greatness ofthat person in their arena,
right.
And so to Laura's point.
Sometimes our biggest blind spotis us not recognizing what
greatness or mastery is outsideof ourselves.
And like somebody next door toyou or up the street has put in
so much work on a specialized,like gift that they've nurtured
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for the last 30 years, like giftthat they've nurtured for the
last 30 years, you can't touchthat Right.
But you partnering with them islike what's necessary to bring,
like God's gift, the biggestgift, the biggest blessings to
the world.
Because you were open enough tolean on somebody and say you
know, I know I can't see whatyou see.
And vice versa, you believe youcan't see what I see.
(33:52):
Great, we are just able tohonor each other's gifts.
I know I can't see what you see, and vice versa you believe you
can't see what?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I see Great things happen.
We are just able to honor eachother's gifts so beautifully.
Now, like I'm so eyes wide openinto, like, what's your gift?
What's your gift?
What's your gift?
Like I want to understandeveryone's gifts.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, yeah.
So okay, what would you say isyour one or one-two gift, like,
what's your top gift?
If Laura walks into a room incontrast to everyone else, what
is Laura's gift?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
The positive energy that I bring.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Hmm, hmm.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Like I just bring that belief, like in everyone
and everyone, and like a let'sgo, let's go yeah, take your
shoes off, let's run outside.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Okay, I love that.
I think for me it is just beingan active listener and then
being able to reflect back whatI heard as a mirror but
reflected back in somebody'sblind spot.
I remember growing up,everybody used to talk about my
(35:02):
big ears.
My ears were huge.
I'll probably have to post apicture of my ears as a kid on
this podcast because they werejust out there and so, like when
I think about how God plantsseeds in the story way before
you even recognize it, right,like everybody, talking about my
big ears was just like seedsbeing planted.
(35:25):
Like no, don't run away fromthat, be an active listener.
Like shut your mouth, be quietand listen.
And uh, now I like receive thatwith all glory and I just try
to be active.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
How much is that gift needed right now?
Yeah, for sure how many peopleneed to truly be be heard.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Mm-hmm, and I feel like we're offering that on this
podcast, right.
Hence send in your questions.
Yes, help guide us on thingsthat you may want us to talk
about, because hopefully we canunravel or unwrap some of these
taboo things that may not betalked about in a theme that we
have.
This is a subjective question.
(36:19):
Is there a completion, like canyou be done with being awakened
?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Like.
What does that look like foryou?
The word that's coming to mindis realization.
Realization, and when we heedthe guidance that comes from
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above and we begin to look andact and just go about our days a
little bit differently than weused to, you are in full
realization.
It's almost the embodiment ofthis new you.
Yeah, and I think again.
(37:22):
I mean, I'm still very muchlike a student, a sponge.
I'm like I'm here for it, right.
I'm like I'm here for it, right.
The coolest part about the lastfew months for me is I'm
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literally witnessing my ownbecoming.
There's moments where I have tojust like stop.
I'm like this ideal version ofLaura.
I am her in this scene, likewith my kids, or handling a
certain situation, Like I am her, wow.
(38:10):
And I just have to like pauseand really take that in, because
that's that's the beauty ofthis awakening is that you're
slowing down.
You're slowing down to realizethese moments where old you
would have done this and new youdoes this.
(38:33):
And by slowing down andbringing that awareness so front
and center, you are buildingthe circuitry.
This feels good.
More of this, please.
Circuitry, muscle memory, likerepetition, repetition.
(38:55):
Okay, I can do that again Inthe next situation.
I can pause, and that I thinkof Viktor Frankl, of the space
between stimulus and response.
That's your choice.
(39:18):
You can choose Between stimulusand response.
There is a space.
What are you going to do withthat space?
Old Laura, kids doing somethingI would rage Rage.
(39:41):
I was not proud of her.
New Laura we dance it out.
Remember, we're dancing and Ihave to reflect at the end of
the day that that is my biggestaccomplishment.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
It's nothing external , like I won an award at work or
I got the most I mean you canfill in the blank of whatever
these other was practicing myLaura morning routine and
visualizing something in mybrain and it tied back to the
(40:36):
earlier statement of like God'swave, to the earlier statement
of like God's wave, and so I wasenvisioning Laura in the middle
of the ocean, like paddlingsuper fast, super fast, super
fast, and like feeling like shewas going to get to the bank
faster because of how fast herarms were going to like get
(40:58):
there.
But she said then she chose toslow down.
And because she chose to slowdown, like God's wave started to
like merge beneath her and thenshe was able to ride that wave.
And because she slowed downthat was the only reason she was
able to ride the wave wasbecause she paused and she
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reflected and she looked aroundlike I'm going too fast.
And the reason why I wanted toreiterate that is because the
things that Laura and I say, ifyou just listen to every podcast
in succession or in order justlike quick, like in a day you
would be like they're saying alot of the same things.
(41:40):
Just like quick, like in a day,you would be like they're saying
a lot of the same things.
And the reason is because, likethis is not new wisdom, right?
Like slowing down and pausingand focusing on the present is
something that you can findother wise people say all over
the globe, all throughouthistory, and so we're just doing
our best to say it in a waythat you might receive it this
(42:00):
time.
Like slowing down is just partof the process.
Like just slow down Literally,like I've been moving this fast,
I need to slow down.
But you might be thinking, if Islow down, I am going to miss
something.
I'm not going to be able toreach the goals that I have set
because my goals require me tohustle all day, every day.
(42:24):
Yes, your goals require you tohustle all day, every day.
God's goals requires you toslow down to find that wave and
once you find it, then becreative with your hustle right.
But you just have to haveenough patience to slow down and
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catch that wave.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
So, do you know, what I found myself doing is because
I'm integrating all this wisdom.
I re-listened to this podcast.
I like I think I said something, probably a couple weeks ago,
but I need to hear again.
And it's like my higher selfknows like okay, laura, go
listen to that again.
(43:09):
And it's so bizarre and coolthat I'm like, oh, yep, thanks
God needed to hear that.
And I literally hear it frommyself hey, that's Yep, thanks
God.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Needed to hear that and I literally hear it from
myself.
Hey, that's so real, all right.
Another like tactical thingthat somebody might want to
choose to do.
So Laura was a writer.
I was a like audio verbaldocumenter.
So like, when you start goingthrough this awakening season,
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like document how you feel someway, put it into a drop box, put
it into a journal, put itsomewhere, but, to Laura's point
, eventually you're going to goback to it somehow some way and
there's going to be some nuggetsthat your higher self dropped
in there for you and there'sgoing to be some nuggets that
your higher self dropped inthere for you.
So like for me, I narrated myjourney on Patreon, but let me
(44:10):
be like real, intentional andtell you why I did it on Patreon
.
The reason why I put my contenton Patreon was because,
subconsciously, if I were to putit on a LinkedIn or YouTube or
Facebook or IG, I know that Iwould have been trying to talk
to somebody else, like I wouldhave been saying language to try
to get a like or to a love orsomebody to hop in my comments.
(44:33):
But because I just knew I wastalking to me, I had to put it
in a place where I wasn'tgetting that external validation
or response.
It was just coming outnaturally.
So not saying that you need toput it on Patreon.
I'm saying you can just recordon your phone every Sunday a
message to self and then a yearlater just start listening to
those Sunday messages back Like,oh man, like I did say that, oh
(44:57):
, thanks for thanks God forhelping me say that 12 months
ago, because now that appliesright now and so it's just a
super hack that God plant seedsfor us through our own words,
and it's quite wild how ithappens that, oh my gosh, if I
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don't say yes to the dreams thatGod's placed in my heart, then
the whole plan like I'm leavingpeople behind or I'm like I'm
not doing my duty to helphumanity as we ascend.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
There's so much.
It's so much more than abusiness.
It's like what I came down.
It's like, laura, this is notabout winning a business, this
is so much bigger.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
This is not about winning in business.
There is so much significancein that statement for so many
reasons.
Let me try to piggyback it in away that is hitting me in this
moment.
So I remember back when I wasin my hustle season as an
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entrepreneur and I, like hadbusiness partners or people I
work with closely, and Iremember, you know, we would
have like strategic sessions allthe time and like I would say
something that I thought wasbrilliant and it wouldn't hit in
that moment, and then, likefour months later, somebody that
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was in that room would say thesame thing and forget where it
came from, as if there was theirown brilliant idea.
And I was like, it's okay, it'sgood, yeah, cool, you're
supposed to have that, whatever.
But it happened so frequentlythat I was like, well, mondo,
maybe that's just your role,like maybe you are supposed to
plant a seed and then let thatseed blossom down the line.
(47:01):
And the reason why I bring thatup is because in this awakening
kind of spiritual quest, thereare things that we or you are
going to say out loud tosomebody else, that you're going
to be like this is truth, likemy mind was blown so much.
This is it, but you saying itto this other person or other
(47:25):
people, you're just planting aseed, like knowing that they are
probably not going to get itright now, because it's not time
for them to get it.
They have to put sunlight on it, they have to water it for it
to start to mature in their mind.
And so to Laura's point.
(47:47):
This is not like business whereyou can win, like you say
something or you go do something, put out a product and you get
a return right away.
Like it doesn't work that way.
It is like you pouring out somuch love and compassion and
kindness and just being presentin hopes that three years later,
somebody's like man.
Laura, when we had thatconversation in July of 2022,
(48:08):
like I noticed that that was themoment that changed my life,
right.
And so this awakening season ifyou are in it or you are
anticipating, wanting to stepinto it, just be aware that a
lot of people around you aren'tgoing to receive your words
right away.
It's just not how it works, andyou have to be responsible to
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not let your ego be bruisedenough that you stop or get
frustrated or remove yourself ina way, because you can't take
it personal, and I'm saying thiswith every fiber in my being
because, being last, I have hadto endure saying words so many
times over and over, and overand over and feel like that did
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absolutely nothing, but havingfaith that, like, god has a plan
for that person in those words,six months from now, and I have
to be okay with that.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
So again getting to your immense amount of patience,
immense amount of patience.
So, I think of you often whenI'm like, if I'm getting
impatient, I think of Mondo.
I'm like, if I'm gettingimpatient, I think of Mondo.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
I need, I need.
I need another role model tolook Not actually like like
watching sci fi stuff does likehelp support my patience,
because it helps me just look atthe broadness of the universe
and just how big, how longeverything has been around.
And it's just like Mondo, it'sstill only been three years,
right, like in a grand scheme ofthings.
(49:45):
And so, like, continue to bepatient, continue to endure, but
anyways I lean on.
I don't know what Matthew verseit is, but eventually, like the
first will be last and the lastwill be first, like I hang my
hat on that Like, eventuallythere is going to be a moment
where somehow, some way, godjust changes the story and that
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person who knew they were inlast place and stayed there, and
did their best to supporteverybody else in last place
will somehow find themselves ina position that is first.
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
But I have faith that that is going to be the outcome
.
All right, we are back.
Miss Laura King shout out tothe podcast listeners Thanks for
joining us as we lean into thisheavenly human podcast where we
help you find fulfillment.
And we said we're just going togo with the flow.
(00:29):
No notes, just flow.
And so, podcast listeners, thisis a flow session, and so we
will start like we normallystart and just check in with
each other.
So, laura, as I check in withyou, how are you feeling?
I am having a great day, Fondoyou feeling I am having a great
(00:49):
day, Mondo, that is amazing,because the last session you
were just like I almost criedbefore we started.
And so a couple of weeks later,you're just like, nope,
everything has rebounded, eventhough you rebounded right after
that, uh, the other week.
But but you're feeling good,You're feeling great.
Why is?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
that there's not.
It's going to sound so bizarre,but there's really nothing in
my external world that's changed.
It's all my internal work thatis keeping me.
So grounded is the word.
I have a tendency I get reallyexcited and I just like I think,
(01:24):
all this energy above myswirling above my head and my
thing, it's like I have toground it into the earth, and so
, um, for me it's just been thiscontinual.
I'm trusting you God.
I'm trusting you God, and, likeevery day, it gets easier with
(01:46):
this faith walk.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, would you ?
We probably talked about thisbefore, but just to refresh the
memory of the audience, when youactually wake up in the morning
, is there a conversation or aroutine that, like you and God
have to?
Like?
Start your day off that way soyou can feel grounded?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So, before my two feet hit the ground, it's always
a thank you, cause it's a thankyou Like I have this beautiful
gift of life and I'm thankfulthat I have this day, and I'm
grateful, and so I usuallybefore I get out of bed.
I've told this to many peoplebefore, but I'd love for you to
(02:32):
know.
This too, is that I play amovie in my mind before I get up
, and that movie is all themajor scenes of the day and,
like I've already like thisscene we've already done.
Okay, it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But no, like we're laughing, we're smiling, we're
having a great time, and I getto do that throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's dope.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And like moments of I think about when I'm greeting.
Oh my gosh, it's so fun when Ipick up my son Crosby.
Every day we do this runninghug and it's just our thing.
Like he goes across theclassroom and he just runs at me
and I lift him up and I lifthim all the way up and then we
just hug and I'm like I lookforward to that, like that is a
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highlight of my day and, um,like I'm like literally tearing
up just thinking about it,because these are the moments
that I want to emphasize, likethese are the life moments.
It's not me answering 50 emails, it's like the moments with the
humans that I love.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So here's a.
So here's a super, just curiousquestion, because I love cinema
.
So when you just explained thatmoment, the way I visualized it
, it was in slow motion.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Is it in slow motion for you?
Duh, it's always in slow motion.
There's always some amazingsong in the background.
Like I literally love momentscoupled with music, there's
something that just that makesmy soul just sing.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And yeah, I don't even know Like there's other
moments during the day I'm like,yeah, that should be set to
music.
Like, yeah, that should be setto music.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Okay, oh man.
So you have a whole theater inyour mind in the morning before
you get out to bed.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
But then I do it throughout the day too, where,
let's say, I'm going into animportant meeting, I like, will
close my eyes and I will askmyself how did this get to go?
It's that pause, the intentionsthat I set.
You know like before entering ameeting that could be a really
important meeting.
I'm like God, give me the words, give me the right words that
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you would like me to use, and soeverything feels like it's just
a surrender at this point in mylife.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I think that is that's so telling.
Yes, and we have a similarstrategy.
I don't play the scene in mymind, but I am intentionally
asking God to give me the words,because I look at the story as
like all right, god, your willis going to be done regardless,
(05:30):
right?
It's like an ocean wave thatnobody can stop, and so I have
made the choice to, like figureout how do I tag team with that
wave?
Like, how, how am I in serviceof that wave, which means I have
to learn how to surf it.
So I'm always asking God, likeplease give me the words to
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compliment this wave where,historically, I thought I was
the wave.
You know, I thought I createdeverything around me.
And then God was like well, letme smack you with this wave and
now you recognize that you'renot going to smack you.
Yeah, wipeout moment.
I don't know if anybody servesI never have.
But what I've experiencedthrough this journey is really
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embracing the idea of like, howdo I become a tag team partner
with God?
Of like, how do I become a tagteam partner with God?
And the environments that I'mgoing to be in are the
environments.
The outcome is the outcome, butwhat words am I saying to
support the narrative?
And for me, it's really aboutthose words, because the right
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words can change the trajectoryof the room or shift the energy.
And so to your point, god, whatwords do you want me to use?
Right In the beginning, withGod, was the word so like cool,
please help me deliver the wordsthat you would like me to use
to be in service to you.
So, tag team high five to that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
The other thing that I think is a really healthy
practice is I try to get outsideas quickly as possible in the
morning.
I mean get like sunlight on myeyes, be outside.
I mean my neighbors know thatI'm the weird one.
I take off my shoes and Iliterally ground in the grass.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Like that.
I mean, that's how much Lauraneeds to ground is.
I take off my shoes and I'mdoing my yoga poses in my front
yard.
I mean it's.
It's at this point where I'vegot neighbors that like they
love it, they absolutely love it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I'm the.
I am the oddball.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, definitely.
If you have new neighbors, movein.
They're going to be like honey.
Do you see that lady outsideevery morning?
What is she doing?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I was like why would I want to be inside when I can
be outside?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's what's going through my head.
Yeah, because my husband'sasked me like Laura, you can do
that inside.
I'm like I know, but I wouldprefer to be with the nature.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, yeah, we are opposite in that, for I, for the
most part, I am never barefootoutside.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh, you should try it , man.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
like the bottom of my feet are so sensitive, I just I
have to have socks oneverywhere.
I don't even know why.
It's been that way my wholelife, but you know, such is life
, I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Okay, whenever my boys are acting up, this is my
strategy Take off your shoes andyour socks and let's go run
around outside.
That changes their super hyperenergy and it like anytime
there's any behavior problems.
My go-to is how quickly can Iget these humans outside?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
dang, that's cool.
That's cool.
I just feel like maybe myenergy never gets that high.
I'm so chill yeah, different,like my energy needs to be
grounded yeah, yeah, andsomebody's probably like mondo,
can you come with a little bitmore energy and you're like so
chill, so maybe I should startturning on some loud music and
(09:03):
rocking it out or something, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You, do you.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, what else we got?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, remember I told you I said what I would have
loved to listen to three yearsago was a podcast episode.
That was like how do you knowif you're going through an
awakening?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yes, how do you know?
How do we know?
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So not that we have all the answers, but let's ask.
I mean, think about this.
Like you told me and you'vesaid this, it's like you were
asking God for a better story,correct, this is like you were
(09:47):
asking god for a better story,correct?
Right?
and I am looking back and I'mlike whoa, that was similar to
me too like god, help me write adifferent story yeah, yeah it
like what used to be satisfying,what used to fill me up, what
used to fill me up just didn'tfill me up anymore, and for me
(10:09):
it was more of I wouldaccomplish something, and then I
would feel empty.
It was all the doing, doing,doing.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, let me piggyback that for a second,
because I watched a short clipfrom Will Smith the other day
because he just put out a newalbum.
I haven't listened to it, buthe's doing a lot of interviews.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
He's still making music.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right, it's like the first album he's made in 20
years or something.
I guess he challenged himselflike I'm not supposed to be able
to do this in my late 50s orwhatever, so let me make an
album, because everybody saysthat I'm not supposed to.
But in this interview he talksabout what you just said.
He's like some peopleexperience rock bottom and they
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have to make that shift.
And he was like for him heidentified cliff top and he was
like he was at the top of thecliff and going and producing a
new movie or winning an award orwhatever the thing was.
He didn't get the satisfactionthat he once got.
(11:17):
And so he reflected he was justlike I clearly have to do
something different, becausethere's not a higher cliff to
climb, I have to now go down.
And so he just it was reallyfascinating because that going
down is kind of like now youhave to lean into that
introspective part, right, likeit's not about jumping off of a
(11:38):
cliff, but it's just like you'veclimbed the ladder enough that,
like now you need to go withinand figure out how you find that
sense of peace without all theextra stuff.
And what I hear you say is yougot to a point in your journey
where you were like these thingsthat I'm doing is not bringing
me the type of joy that maybethey once did, because I've
accomplished these things overand over and over and if I do
(12:00):
this for the next 30 years, thisis going to be a not so good
story.
And you decided to make achange.
My question to you then is wasthere a defining moment where,
like the shift that you made,you were like this is an
awakening journey, like?
(12:20):
How did like that word evenenter into your awareness?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That's such a great question.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
How did I even come, even enter into your?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
awareness.
That's such a great question.
How did I even come up with theword awakening?
Because, if I'm looking back, Ithink it first actually started
when I found out that I waslosing my hearing.
That was a huge shock to think,gosh, there could be a day
(12:47):
where I can't hear things.
And so I went there.
I'm like what would that belike to experience life without
sound?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Dang, that is when you talk about alarm going off
wake up?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That was a wake up.
Yeah, what, what?
Alarm going off.
Wake up?
That was a wake up like, yeah,what?
And now that I can reflect onthat, that allowed me to just
again it's like it's just askdifferent questions.
Am I it just had me pause andreflect?
I'm like, am I being who I'msupposed to be?
(13:24):
Am I it just had me pause andreflect?
I'm like, am I being who I'msupposed to be?
Am I showing these people thatI love, that I love them?
Like I just I almost went, notthat I was even dying, but I
almost went towards the.
This is the end.
What would I do differently?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
How would I show up differently?
And that may.
I made some pretty big changes.
Um, that was what 2000, 17, 18.
And that's really where I was.
Um, I was pretty selfish.
I was, um, I was wanting to dothings in my time and I wasn't
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always respectful for otherpeople's time.
There was some major characterflaws that I began working on.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well, now I am starting to recognize why you
and I might be so close.
I am starting to recognize whyyou and I might be so close.
This is the first time in theentire time that I've known you
that I heard you say oh yeah, Iwas selfish, I was selfish.
I've never heard you say thatbefore, and I pretty much had
(14:43):
selfish written on my forehead,and so that's fascinating.
We both had this intersectionas a moment where we had to
choose to not be selfish andembrace a life that was more
selfless and prioritizing othersin a way that we haven't done
historically and that changesthings.
I'll tell you, for me, itDriving in today, right to come
(15:05):
to this podcast, I was like God.
You know I am spent, like Idon't want to use the word
exhausted because I don't thinkit's exhausted.
I don't think it's exhausted,but I'm just at this
intersection where I'm like God.
(15:26):
I feel like you've taught me orguided me through a journey to
learn everything that I neededto learn being last.
And so I'm bringing this upbecause All the years of my life
where I was selfish, it wasbecause I felt it was my duty to
be in front, to lead, and sothe contrast of that was like
(15:50):
nope, be last.
So surrendering all this stuffand still showing up for people.
I was always a last in the room, like everybody had quote,
unquote, more than me, moresuccess, more stuff, more
(16:10):
whatever, and I had to offer away or an opportunity to pivot
being last.
And so it was like like this ishow I am coaching you to put
other people first, you have tofirst recognize what it feels
like to be last in line, and sofor me, it was this extreme
version of having to experienceselflessness by being last in
(16:36):
the line.
And so I'm coming full circle,I'm driving up, and I was so
much in my head driving here Iactually went a different way.
I like missed the exit I wassupposed to take, and God knows
my mind, because I have alwayssaid like yo, god, if there's a
heaven on earth, I'm definitelyon the porch right, it's just
(16:59):
something that I've always said.
And coming up this other backway or whatever, I'm like God,
you got to give me something.
And then I see a street andit's like porch way, and I'm
like I started crying because Iwas like, oh, thanks God for
giving me a sign.
Like yeah, mondo, you are spent, but you're also on the porch,
(17:20):
so keep going, and so putting abow on that.
To me, that's what I feel likethe awakening process is like
Right, it's going through thisseason where you are in union,
in concert with the wisdom ofGod, and like that's what you
have awakened to, where it's notjust your thoughts, it's a
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dance with you and the creator.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And I think with all.
I think about all the thingsgoing on in the outside world
right now and I am not an avid,I'm not reading all, I'm not
getting consumed by it, but I'mlike I watch headlines.
(18:04):
I'm not reading all, I'm notgetting consumed by it, but I'm
like I watch headlines.
I think about old Laura used toget so caught up in things that
were outside of her, all thethings happening in the external
world.
I let the external dictate howI felt inside, and I think the
(18:25):
difference in doing this work is, oh, it's way more important
for me to generate thesefeelings inside, because that
inner world creates my outerworld.
Yeah, and so I'm like I'minteracting with just the best
people.
Like I feel like, even likeyesterday, I'm like everywhere I
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went, everyone had a smile ontheir face, everyone was kind
and compassionate and all of myinteractions were full of joy
and I had some incrediblymeaningful conversations.
I'm like, if that's heaven onearth, like let's sign me up for
a bunch more of those days.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Like there was nothing from the external that
entangled me Right, like it gotme into a fear and separation
and lack and limitation.
I'm like I was able to maintainmy vibration, my like vibration
(19:27):
, unconditional love.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Right, like I get to emanate that and be that.
And then I'm seeing itreflected back at me and I'm
also like do other peopleexperience this?
Yeah, because the day beforewas not a great day.
Yeah, the day before I was well, this is going wrong and this
is going wrong, and this isgoing wrong and this is going
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wrong, and all I focused on wasall the things that were going
wrong and that was a prettycrappy day.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, one thing that you just said and it struck me
when I was on my trip lastweekend to Kentucky for
volleyball with cadence.
It was after a game we got inand Black Panther 1 and Black
Panther 2 were on just someregular TV, and I had always
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been connected to the wordWakanda because I was just like,
well, you rearrange that andit's awakened, right.
And so, as I was watching it,and so, as I was watching it,
(20:43):
the material, that kind of like,separates their culture or
whatever the thing that theyhave is called vibranium.
And as I was watching it, itwas just like, yeah, that's just
symbolic, like vibranium isjust their vibration, right,
like they found a way to vibratein this way that allows them to
live this divine life orwhatever.
And so, when you were justtalking, you were just like,
yeah, like I went through thisawakening process and I choose
(21:06):
to vibrate at this way andwherever I'm at, I then become
the vibe I lead because of how Iam showing up.
And so I'm just highlightingthat, because we all have our
own, like random ways in whichwe make sense of the world.
World, for me, it's story,right, find a way Like what am I
(21:29):
watching, and how is it aidingor supporting my belief that
every story everywhere is aversion or a variant of the same
story, pointing to Christ, orthat vibration or that heavenly
kind of essence that you livewith right, where God is just
(21:50):
walking within you.
And so I just wanted tohighlight that you saying these
words and just talking aboutyour vibration and you having
control of your environment,because your environment is just
you right and then everythingthat happens in your life is the
response to how you arechoosing to vibe that day.
Agreeing with that or a versionof that statement is part of
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the awakening process.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's am I?
Am I a victim or am I helpingcreate this?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Right, victimhood or creatorship.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Let me ask a question .
What would you say as youTurned into a creator and you
started this awakening process?
Can you think of a moment whereyou you knew for sure like all
(22:52):
right, God, this is my way, thisis Laura's selfish way, you
want me to go this other way?
And you had to choose to followGod's wisdom as opposed to
yours, the way that you had beendoing it historically?
Does that question make sense?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, it does make sense.
Well, if I rewind to 2023,.
Well, if I rewind to 2023, Iwanted what is about to unfold
this year, so in 2023,.
It was why I felt like I wassupposed to do something really
(23:28):
important in the world.
Why am I not doing it already?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I was so mad I wanted and the thing is like I
couldn't even put my finger onwhat it was, but I knew that it
was like I mean, this is soweird to say, but I, when I
first put up, put out my firstpursue your purpose workshop,
(23:54):
I'm like everyone should sign up.
Everyone like everyone needsthis, everyone needs this.
And I was so like people justneed to sign up and I will have
three a month and I will make.
I will make all the money Ineed to make and that be good.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And in my head I'm like that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And then no one signed up, that was because I
was forcing it.
It was all in my ego.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Whereas if I think about what I'm preparing for a
purpose workshop now I pray, Ipray God, who needs to be here,
who needs to be in this room?
And people's names just come tome oh my gosh, and I just have
to nudge them.
Oh my gosh, and I just have tonudge them.
(24:59):
And so many have accepted thenudge and their life is totally
different now than it was beforethat workshop.
And I don't want to say that itwas me.
I want to say that it was allGod.
So me being obedient to lettinghim dictate my actions makes
all the difference.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh, like, why did I think I had to strive and
struggle and force it, whentruly it's just allowing it like
, not forcing, and it can beeasy Like.
And then I'm just so touched bythese individuals,
(25:42):
transformations, and some I playa big part in, because we
continue on and we have a, youknow, a coaching relationship
and others, you know, maybe not,but it's still a hey, I see you
doing this, I'm cheering you on, like, it's so fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's dope.
I want to talk to um, I don'teven know what I call you, but
I'm just going to say numberfour.
This is something that just iskind of in my spirit.
So Laura just talked abouthaving this belief that she was
(26:26):
supposed to do something in 2023and it didn't manifest until
2025.
And through that journey, shewas like it's supposed to happen
now, now, now, now, now, andnow that it's happening two
years later, there's someexcitement around it, and when I
(26:49):
say I want to talk to thisnumber four person, it's because
in my life, I feel like I'm thenumber four person, like last.
So like Laura's winning, otherpeople in my life are winning
and God is still saying Mondo,it's not your time yet.
(27:09):
And so I just really want totalk to that person who notices
a bunch of people starting toaccelerate, but you're still on
pause.
I'm talking to you and I'mtalking to myself at the same
time Continue to have patience,continue to trust in God's plan,
because there's just no otherway around it.
And so, like it's just it'sresonating with me right now a
(27:32):
lot because, like I'm just inthat season of enduring being
last this long, but also knowingthat there's purpose to it
Right.
So Laura said now, when I startmy purpose workshops, like I,
pray like I there's a differenttype of spirit that I bring.
And so I believe that, becauseI've chosen to be last, and some
other people who may have to belast in their circle, because
(27:55):
you choose to be last, there'sgoing to be a unique gift, a
unique thing that, like you have, and you have alone, simply
because you were the one who wascalled to be last in your
circle- so, oh, that is sobeautiful, that is so.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And there are so many people that need to hear that,
yeah, the awakening, oh, that isso beautiful, that is so.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And there are so many people that need to hear that.
Yeah, the awakening.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And then I'm called to speak to the person that
things are starting toaccelerate, yeah, and some of
the things that you've beendreaming about are coming true,
coming true.
So do not forget what this isall about.
(28:37):
Do not go back into ego, yeah,do not go back into ego, and ego
, I heard the other day, isedging God out.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I think that came from Wayne Dyer.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I don't know who Wayne Dyer is Edging God out.
Oh, that came from Wayne Dyer.
I don't know who Wayne Dyer isthat you got out.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Oh, I'll just Wayne Dyer.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I think I've read a dozen of his books.
He was way before his time inbringing spirituality to the
masses.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's dope.
So let me ask what, what wouldor what does it look like for
like your ego creeping back inright now?
So somebody is like okay, Laura, you've shifted.
So, like you say, don't let myego creep back in, Do you have a
?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
control, all control.
Okay, like I need to knowexactly how this turns out.
I need to have all these steps,like it's so it's all control.
It's like me gripping thesteering wheel and not letting
anyone else influence me andwhat I'm learning in real time
(29:50):
is, oh my gosh, there's a muchbigger mission and movement and
I got to let people in and so,oh my God, I'm learning Laura,
who has just been the, you know,I'll figure it out on my own
(30:11):
and I don't need anyone's help.
I really I kind of liked thatfor so many years.
Like I stood in my own pride of, yeah, I got four kids and I do
this and I do that, and yeah, Ido it all.
But now I get to allow the help, allow people that want to help
(30:36):
me, and I've never done thatbefore.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
That's big.
It's big one because yourecognize like, yeah, my pride,
like you wore that like a badgeof honor.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Sure did.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I can do all this stuff, Everything.
I am undefeated and you're like.
But having a squad and leaningon other folks that you may not
have historically makes thejourney more fun.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's the richness of the relationships and I'm
getting to know people at suchan intimate level and seeing
(31:25):
where they are getting hung upand like their breakthroughs and
just the shared learnings thatwe can have together.
I mean that's the richness ofthis life.
It's like when you get to do itwith other people and I don't
know, I just love to hear theirstories.
I love to just experience thewins together and the losses too
.
It's just um, I can't believe.
(31:46):
I'm 42 years old and I've neverallowed people to truly help me
before.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of humans that
have experienced somethingsimilar, but would you say that
it was more your ego and pride,you wanting to be number one in
front, or was it a distrust?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
in the capabilities of others.
I thought I could do everythingbetter I would one.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Let me shout out coalition nine, because laura
just said yes so.
Similarly, I thought I was themost capable and competent human
in the world.
So I was like, oh, all thesethings that need to happen, like
I can do them all at a solidenough level that I'm going to
(32:45):
win.
And I noticed what mastery look, sound and felt like around me
in different verticals.
I was like, oh, bro, you're soconfused, meaning to myself,
you're so confused to think orbelieve that you're even close
(33:07):
to touching the greatness ofthat person in their arena,
right.
And so to Laura's point.
Sometimes our biggest blind spotis us not recognizing what
greatness or mastery is outsideof ourselves.
And like somebody next door toyou or up the street has put in
so much work on a specialized,like gift that they've nurtured
(33:31):
for the last 30 years, like giftthat they've nurtured for the
last 30 years, you can't touchthat Right.
But you partnering with them islike what's necessary to bring,
like God's gift, the biggestgift, the biggest blessings to
the world.
Because you were open enough tolean on somebody and say you
know, I know I can't see whatyou see.
And vice versa, you believe youcan't see what I see.
(33:52):
Great, we are just able tohonor each other's gifts.
I know I can't see what you see, and vice versa you believe you
can't see what?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I see Great things happen.
We are just able to honor eachother's gifts so beautifully.
Now, like I'm so eyes wide openinto, like, what's your gift?
What's your gift?
What's your gift?
Like I want to understandeveryone's gifts.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, yeah.
So okay, what would you say isyour one or one-two gift, like,
what's your top gift?
If Laura walks into a room incontrast to everyone else, what
is Laura's gift?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
The positive energy that I bring.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Hmm, hmm.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Like I just bring that belief, like in everyone
and everyone, and like a let'sgo, let's go yeah, take your
shoes off, let's run outside.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Okay, I love that.
I think for me it is just beingan active listener and then
being able to reflect back whatI heard as a mirror but
reflected back in somebody'sblind spot.
I remember growing up,everybody used to talk about my
(35:02):
big ears.
My ears were huge.
I'll probably have to post apicture of my ears as a kid on
this podcast because they werejust out there and so, like when
I think about how God plantsseeds in the story way before
you even recognize it, right,like everybody, talking about my
big ears was just like seedsbeing planted.
(35:25):
Like no, don't run away fromthat, be an active listener.
Like shut your mouth, be quietand listen.
And uh, now I like receive thatwith all glory and I just try
to be active.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
How much is that gift needed right now?
Yeah, for sure how many peopleneed to truly be be heard.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Mm-hmm, and I feel like we're offering that on this
podcast, right.
Hence send in your questions.
Yes, help guide us on thingsthat you may want us to talk
about, because hopefully we canunravel or unwrap some of these
taboo things that may not betalked about in a theme that we
have.
This is a subjective question.
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Is there a completion, like canyou be done with being awakened
?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Like.
What does that look like foryou?
The word that's coming to mindis realization.
Realization, and when we heedthe guidance that comes from
(37:01):
above and we begin to look andact and just go about our days a
little bit differently than weused to, you are in full
realization.
It's almost the embodiment ofthis new you.
Yeah, and I think again.
(37:22):
I mean, I'm still very muchlike a student, a sponge.
I'm like I'm here for it, right.
I'm like I'm here for it, right.
The coolest part about the lastfew months for me is I'm
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literally witnessing my ownbecoming.
There's moments where I have tojust like stop.
I'm like this ideal version ofLaura.
I am her in this scene, likewith my kids, or handling a
certain situation, Like I am her, wow.
(38:10):
And I just have to like pauseand really take that in, because
that's that's the beauty ofthis awakening is that you're
slowing down.
You're slowing down to realizethese moments where old you
would have done this and new youdoes this.
(38:33):
And by slowing down andbringing that awareness so front
and center, you are buildingthe circuitry.
This feels good.
More of this, please.
Circuitry, muscle memory, likerepetition, repetition.
(38:55):
Okay, I can do that again Inthe next situation.
I can pause, and that I thinkof Viktor Frankl, of the space
between stimulus and response.
That's your choice.
(39:18):
You can choose Between stimulusand response.
There is a space.
What are you going to do withthat space?
Old Laura, kids doing somethingI would rage Rage.
(39:41):
I was not proud of her.
New Laura we dance it out.
Remember, we're dancing and Ihave to reflect at the end of
the day that that is my biggestaccomplishment.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
It's nothing external , like I won an award at work or
I got the most I mean you canfill in the blank of whatever
these other was practicing myLaura morning routine and
visualizing something in mybrain and it tied back to the
(40:36):
earlier statement of like God'swave, to the earlier statement
of like God's wave, and so I wasenvisioning Laura in the middle
of the ocean, like paddlingsuper fast, super fast, super
fast, and like feeling like shewas going to get to the bank
faster because of how fast herarms were going to like get
(40:58):
there.
But she said then she chose toslow down.
And because she chose to slowdown, like God's wave started to
like merge beneath her and thenshe was able to ride that wave.
And because she slowed downthat was the only reason she was
able to ride the wave wasbecause she paused and she
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reflected and she looked aroundlike I'm going too fast.
And the reason why I wanted toreiterate that is because the
things that Laura and I say, ifyou just listen to every podcast
in succession or in order justlike quick, like in a day you
would be like they're saying alot of the same things.
(41:40):
Just like quick, like in a day,you would be like they're saying
a lot of the same things.
And the reason is because, likethis is not new wisdom, right?
Like slowing down and pausingand focusing on the present is
something that you can findother wise people say all over
the globe, all throughouthistory, and so we're just doing
our best to say it in a waythat you might receive it this
(42:00):
time.
Like slowing down is just partof the process.
Like just slow down Literally,like I've been moving this fast,
I need to slow down.
But you might be thinking, if Islow down, I am going to miss
something.
I'm not going to be able toreach the goals that I have set
because my goals require me tohustle all day, every day.
(42:24):
Yes, your goals require you tohustle all day, every day.
God's goals requires you toslow down to find that wave and
once you find it, then becreative with your hustle right.
But you just have to haveenough patience to slow down and
(42:45):
catch that wave.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
So, do you know, what I found myself doing is because
I'm integrating all this wisdom.
I re-listened to this podcast.
I like I think I said something, probably a couple weeks ago,
but I need to hear again.
And it's like my higher selfknows like okay, laura, go
listen to that again.
(43:09):
And it's so bizarre and coolthat I'm like, oh, yep, thanks
God needed to hear that.
And I literally hear it frommyself hey, that's Yep, thanks
God.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Needed to hear that and I literally hear it from
myself.
Hey, that's so real, all right.
Another like tactical thingthat somebody might want to
choose to do.
So Laura was a writer.
I was a like audio verbaldocumenter.
So like, when you start goingthrough this awakening season,
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like document how you feel someway, put it into a drop box, put
it into a journal, put itsomewhere, but, to Laura's point
, eventually you're going to goback to it somehow some way and
there's going to be some nuggetsthat your higher self dropped
in there for you and there'sgoing to be some nuggets that
your higher self dropped inthere for you.
So like for me, I narrated myjourney on Patreon, but let me
(44:10):
be like real, intentional andtell you why I did it on Patreon
.
The reason why I put my contenton Patreon was because,
subconsciously, if I were to putit on a LinkedIn or YouTube or
Facebook or IG, I know that Iwould have been trying to talk
to somebody else, like I wouldhave been saying language to try
to get a like or to a love orsomebody to hop in my comments.
(44:33):
But because I just knew I wastalking to me, I had to put it
in a place where I wasn'tgetting that external validation
or response.
It was just coming outnaturally.
So not saying that you need toput it on Patreon.
I'm saying you can just recordon your phone every Sunday a
message to self and then a yearlater just start listening to
those Sunday messages back Like,oh man, like I did say that, oh
(44:57):
, thanks for thanks God forhelping me say that 12 months
ago, because now that appliesright now and so it's just a
super hack that God plant seedsfor us through our own words,
and it's quite wild how ithappens that, oh my gosh, if I
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don't say yes to the dreams thatGod's placed in my heart, then
the whole plan like I'm leavingpeople behind or I'm like I'm
not doing my duty to helphumanity as we ascend.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
There's so much.
It's so much more than abusiness.
It's like what I came down.
It's like, laura, this is notabout winning a business, this
is so much bigger.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
This is not about winning in business.
There is so much significancein that statement for so many
reasons.
Let me try to piggyback it in away that is hitting me in this
moment.
So I remember back when I wasin my hustle season as an
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entrepreneur and I, like hadbusiness partners or people I
work with closely, and Iremember, you know, we would
have like strategic sessions allthe time and like I would say
something that I thought wasbrilliant and it wouldn't hit in
that moment, and then, likefour months later, somebody that
(46:37):
was in that room would say thesame thing and forget where it
came from, as if there was theirown brilliant idea.
And I was like, it's okay, it'sgood, yeah, cool, you're
supposed to have that, whatever.
But it happened so frequentlythat I was like, well, mondo,
maybe that's just your role,like maybe you are supposed to
plant a seed and then let thatseed blossom down the line.
(47:01):
And the reason why I bring thatup is because in this awakening
kind of spiritual quest, thereare things that we or you are
going to say out loud tosomebody else, that you're going
to be like this is truth, likemy mind was blown so much.
This is it, but you saying itto this other person or other
(47:25):
people, you're just planting aseed, like knowing that they are
probably not going to get itright now, because it's not time
for them to get it.
They have to put sunlight on it, they have to water it for it
to start to mature in their mind.
And so to Laura's point.
(47:47):
This is not like business whereyou can win, like you say
something or you go do something, put out a product and you get
a return right away.
Like it doesn't work that way.
It is like you pouring out somuch love and compassion and
kindness and just being presentin hopes that three years later,
somebody's like man.
Laura, when we had thatconversation in July of 2022,
(48:08):
like I noticed that that was themoment that changed my life,
right.
And so this awakening season ifyou are in it or you are
anticipating, wanting to stepinto it, just be aware that a
lot of people around you aren'tgoing to receive your words
right away.
It's just not how it works, andyou have to be responsible to
(48:33):
not let your ego be bruisedenough that you stop or get
frustrated or remove yourself ina way, because you can't take
it personal, and I'm saying thiswith every fiber in my being
because, being last, I have hadto endure saying words so many
times over and over, and overand over and feel like that did
(48:59):
absolutely nothing, but havingfaith that, like, god has a plan
for that person in those words,six months from now, and I have
to be okay with that.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
So again getting to your immense amount of patience,
immense amount of patience.
So, I think of you often whenI'm like, if I'm getting
impatient, I think of Mondo.
I'm like, if I'm gettingimpatient, I think of Mondo.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
I need, I need.
I need another role model tolook Not actually like like
watching sci fi stuff does likehelp support my patience,
because it helps me just look atthe broadness of the universe
and just how big, how longeverything has been around.
And it's just like Mondo, it'sstill only been three years,
right, like in a grand scheme ofthings.
(49:45):
And so, like, continue to bepatient, continue to endure, but
anyways I lean on.
I don't know what Matthew verseit is, but eventually, like the
first will be last and the lastwill be first, like I hang my
hat on that Like, eventuallythere is going to be a moment
where somehow, some way, godjust changes the story and that
(50:06):
person who knew they were inlast place and stayed there, and
did their best to supporteverybody else in last place
will somehow find themselves ina position that is first.
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
But I have faith that that is going to be the outcome
.
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