April 21, 2025 • 54 mins
What if the most powerful way to heal your relationships isn't by trying to change others, but by taking radical responsibility for your own healing journey? In this episode, Laura shares a vulnerable moment with her seven-year-old son that becomes a powerful gateway to understanding deeper family dynamics. "I heard God tell me to heal yourself, Laura, and they will be healed," she reveals, setting the tone for a profound exploration of personal transformation.
Mondo introduces the compelling metaphor of the family tree, challenging listeners to consider whether they see themselves as branches or roots. "I chose to believe that I am a root for my family tree," he explains, "and so it is my responsibility to become the most healed version of myself, because then everything that sprouts from those roots will experience some type of transformation."
Whether you're navigating challenging family relationships, feeling called to personal transformation, or simply seeking greater fulfillment, this episode offers both practical wisdom and spiritual nourishment for your journey. Text us your questions or thoughts, and help us spread this message by rating and reviewing the show.
Checkout Laura King as a Peak Performance Coach + Speaker on her website:
Subscribe to Laura's Peak of the Week:
https://www.lauraeking.com/peak-of-the-week
Checkout Mondo Davison as a Believer Speaker on his website:
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Mondo (00:00):
Welcome to the Heavenly Human Podcast, where we help you
find fulfillment.
My name is Ahramondo, but youcan call me Mondo, and I am here
with the amazing Laura King.
What's up, Laura?
How are?
Laura (00:16):
you Good morning.
Good morning, happy Friday toyou.
Mondo (00:19):
Oh, it is Friday.
It is a good Friday for me,laura.
I got to tell you why it's agood Friday for me and I haven't
even let you know this yet.
It is a great Friday for mebecause 24 hours ago I got a
text from my daughter and shesays Dad, today I am committing
(00:40):
to Texas Southern University andI was like that's dope and so
just proud dad moment of youknow, figuring out what college
you want to go to during thevisit, feeling like there is
something about Houston, texas,that just aligns with her spirit
, and I just felt proud of her.
(01:02):
So yesterday was definitely aproud parent moment and I feel
good.
Laura (01:08):
That's amazing.
Yeah, I had not a great parentsmoment this morning.
One of my sons decided to startsaying things like you must
hate me, you must hate me, youmust hate me, in response to his
older brother making fun of him.
And then he just went on a rantand so I mean I, just before he
(01:31):
came here, I was almost intears.
I'm like, okay, there's clearlysomething with him that's
really he's, he's upset about,he's telling himself a story.
That's not true.
Mondo (01:44):
Yeah.
Laura (01:45):
And he's telling himself a story that mom and dad don't
love him as much as they lovehis other brothers.
So this is like okay, ding,ding, ding.
There's something here thatbrian and I need to be very
aware of.
With our third born, and he'sfeeling left out third born, so
there's a younger one, so he'sand and so, and he's not quite
(02:11):
as quote-unquote like athleticas his older brother yeah, old,
both of his older brothers andso he's finding his way.
He's finding his way.
He's finding his way of, youknow, even in this family, of
what's what's his identity.
Mondo (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, wow, and how old?
Seven, seven, okay.
So finding your identity atseven, that's a.
Thing.
Laura (02:36):
But, but you know, his first, his first reaction was
rage this morning, and so,whatever that happens, I know,
okay, that clearly shows methere's something in me that
isn't healed, because anytime,my oh, my gosh, yeah, anytime
they're acting up, that alwaysmeans there's something in me
that needs to be looked at.
(02:57):
So I'm going to be sitting outwith that this weekend.
Mondo (03:01):
Tell me why or how you got to a point in your journey
that you chose to agree withthat meaning.
Something is going on with myson.
There must be something wrong,not wrong.
There must be an imbalance inme.
How did you get there?
Laura (03:17):
um, I heard god tell me to heal yourself, Laura, and
they will be healed, Like Iheard that voice and every time
I see something in them, that isthe the first place I go is
where within you are you nothealed?
(03:40):
Are where with?
Where within you are you notloving yourself?
Mondo (03:47):
you not healed, or where within you are you not loving
yourself?
Oh, okay, yeah, one of thepieces of language that you said
was my son is telling himselfthis story, he's believing in a
certain story, and so he'sacting out because he has made
some agreements with this story.
And I was actually thinkingabout this this morning, just
around the stories that wechoose to agree with, right, the
(04:09):
things that are in our mind.
To your point.
Similarly, I didn't hear thisfrom God, but the connection
that I made in my life was,growing up, we always have this
family tree, right, like, createyour family tree and put your
brothers and your mom, dad,cousins, uncles, all on this
(04:30):
family tree.
And so the symbolism of thisfamily tree for me now is well,
how healthy is this tree?
And so you just said somethingthat was extremely profound to
me, which is well, if I healsomething in myself, is it going
to heal a piece of this tree?
(04:53):
And so then I had to startthinking to myself all right,
mondo, where in the tree do youbelieve you are?
Do you believe that you are abranch?
Believe you are?
Do you believe that you are abranch?
And so, if you heal yourself,then the extensions of your
branch will be healed?
Or do you believe that you area root, and if you heal yourself
(05:14):
, then the rest of the treebegins to heal itself?
And so I'm not telling anybodyelse what they have to believe.
I chose to believe that I am aroot for my family tree, and so
it is my responsibility tobecome the most healed version
of myself, because theneverything that sprouts from
(05:35):
those roots will experience sometype of transformation or some
type of healing.
And so, again to your pointwhat story are we telling
ourselves?
What are we choosing to believe?
And then are we going all in onthose beliefs?
Laura (05:52):
There's just something that really resonates with me,
and it relates to exactly whatwe wanted to talk about today.
How cool is that?
I didn't even plan this.
Radical responsibility, yes,radical responsibility.
Responsibility, yes, radicalresponsibility.
And so what I'm taking fromthis situation this morning with
my son is hmm, I'm going to sitwith this, I'm going to sit
with this and see where I'mbeing guided, because these,
(06:18):
these moments are so, and again,it doesn't matter if you have
kids or not, but if there arethings that are showing you that
like for me, just seeing thefear on his face, seeing the
unworthiness on his face, I'mlike that's not true.
(06:39):
That's not true.
True, but I, as a parent, needto take radical responsibility
for showing my son that he ispure love and that he is um
1000% worthy.
By the way that I make him feelso, are there things that I'm
(07:01):
doing maybe not even consciously, maybe it's subconsciously that
are making him believe thatstory?
So, that's the check with me.
I'm like, okay, what am I doing?
That's feeding into this story.
Mondo (07:17):
If you're listening to this part, this is where I
really do want you to pause andreflect, because I imagine there
is someone in your life arelative, a friend, just
somebody in close proximity andwhen you look at them or when
you think about theircharacteristics and your
behavior, you're thinking I needto fix them or they need to be
(07:40):
fixed it is something that isnot related to you, and what
Laura just said is she has madea conscious choice to believe.
The way for me to support thisother human that is not me is to
work on me and through mebecoming the most balanced
(08:01):
version of myself, the mostbalanced version of myself, my
expression of love will be amirror that they then are like
oh, it's happening.
I want some of that.
What do you get?
Right?
Like you then become a rolemodel, which is a word you use a
(08:21):
lot, right?
Yes, you then be the role modelmindset.
Right, they're just like.
They don't even know what it is,but they're just you know.
They're like what is Lauradoing?
What is she eating?
What is she thinking?
What is she drinking?
Like like, there's justsomething about Laura that I
want.
And then they then go on theirjourney to try to discover that
for themselves.
And so it's just.
It's so dope to hear you saythese words out loud, laura,
(08:44):
like I see something outside ofme that doesn't feel balanced,
and instead of trying to likeglue it together, you go within
and you're like let me find thispiece in me that might not be
fully healed or balanced yet,and when I do that I believe
that is it is going to helpserve this other human.
Laura (09:04):
And when he left, got on the bus, I was sitting here
doing the dishes, veryintentionally doing the dishes,
thinking I'm sending him love,I'm sending him love, I'm
sending him love.
I visualized him going throughhis day with smiles, with people
seeing his gifts, his friendsgiving him a high five for him
(09:26):
to experience so much love today.
Oh my gosh, that feels way moreimportant than answering 150
emails that I have to do.
Yeah, I mean, this is, this iswhat I'm talking about the old
Laura versus the new Laura.
Like old Laura would have juststuffed it under the rug and
like I'll deal with that later,that's you know.
(09:47):
Whatever I got, I've got quoteunquote more important things to
do.
What is more important thanmaking my son feel loved?
Mondo (09:56):
Nothing.
Laura (09:56):
I mean let's.
Mondo (09:58):
Let's say that with emphasis nothing right, like I'm
not big into scripture versesRight, but the few that I have I
like really embrace.
And the one that says, like yourtreasure is where your heart
will be.
Right Is, like, so real withthe tasks that you need to do,
(10:28):
to do work or whatever somebodyoutside of your household, or is
your heart with your kids oryour husband right?
And so when those things arestanding right in front of you
and you have to choose, you haveto prioritize one.
In spirit, you're saying God,this is what I am choosing in
this moment, right, and God'slike, ok, cool, if it is your
son, then that energy that youare putting out for your son
(10:49):
will be delivered.
If it is for work and if youchoose that path, cool, you're
going to reap all the benefitsof that in your work life.
But that other person who alsoneeds you might feel inadequate
because they don't feel thatpresence, they don't feel you
filling this, the world, withenergy and love when they get on
the bus, right, like, like yourson feels that and doesn't even
(11:11):
know that he feels it Right.
Laura (11:13):
But you are just that intentional to care for the
person that you love which islike really bringing me to like
the other aha that I'm justswimming in this week, which is
understanding how powerful likeI am from an energetic
(11:33):
standpoint and how my energy canactually affect other people's
energy.
And so, like that has been thiswhole journey of, even you know
, my healing and what's happenedin this household to see my
kids go from you know just, Imean rage and and and throwing
(11:57):
things and leaving the house andthreatening to to not come back
.
I mean, like it was, it was bad, mondo, it was bad and that was
at the height of my feeling.
So far from God, so far fromGod and like gosh, I just think
about, wow, think not that youneed to change anyone, but when
(12:22):
you change even your attitude,with, okay, checking in with my
energy right now, what kind ofenergy am I giving off?
And oh, wow, was I giving offthis fearful, anxious energy to
my kids?
You bet I was, and that was thehousehold, that was the energy.
(12:44):
And then now you know, becauseI'm consciously choosing it,
maybe this morning I felt maybeI was a little lazy, I don't
know, I was like not asintentional and engaged that
this occurred, occurred, but Iam really waking up to all of
(13:05):
these, um, these gifts that Ihave and gifts I see in others,
and like, oh my gosh, do werealize that we are, we are
meant to use our gifts to helpothers, like?
I know that sounds so basicwhen you listen to those words,
(13:26):
but no, truly.
Especially if you're in a jobright now, are you really using
your gifts?
And I think this is part ofthis.
This transformation that we'reon is a redirection, because if
you're not using your gifts,what are you doing?
(13:49):
Yeah, what are you doing?
And that's maybe where you feelthe lack of fulfillment is
because somewhere in you likesomewhere in your body,
somewhere in your spirit,somewhere in your mind, you're
like Like.
Somewhere in your body,somewhere in your spirit,
somewhere in your mind, you'relike I know there's more, I know
(14:09):
there's more, I know there'smore, and that push, pull, push,
pull, push, pull.
I'm telling you it sucks.
It sucks to be in this, like inbetween, when you're like well,
that sounds just too good to betrue, Laura.
Mondo (14:36):
Who's going to just pay me to use my gifts?
Yeah, yeah, who's going to payme to use my gifts?
Oh, one of the things that cameto me when you were telling
that story was in a past life.
I was an educator at anelementary school and it was one
of the most challengingelementary schools in St Paul,
quote unquote.
But we had some of the mostamazing teachers.
(15:00):
Like when it comes to putting astamp of approval on good
humans coming together to doamazing things to serve others,
I give this staff an a plus,plus, plus.
Like we were all in yes, andthat also meant we had some of
(15:22):
the most challenging students inthe district, and I remember
that also meant we had some ofthe most challenging students in
the district.
And I remember Parents wouldsay for some students well, my
kid doesn't act that way at home, right, and I had heard it so
(15:44):
much that it created thisdissonance of like.
So you're saying your kid is asaint at home, but they come to
school and their behavior is farfrom saint like OK, if I take
that as truth, why is thatstudent acting that way in
school?
Why is that student acting thatway in school?
And I think it was a counselorone day that said that just
(16:17):
means that that kid feels safeenough to do those behaviors
Like at home.
There's such a rigid Set ofrules that they never get to
fully express themselves, and sowhen they come to school and
they do these extra things, itis like literally their inner
spirit saying finally, I havesome freedom to discover who I
am.
And so when you're talking andsaying these things about your
(16:38):
son, I'm just like, oh yeah,like he feels safe enough to do
this at home because of yourpatience, because you are going
to continue to send them love.
And when that counselor told methat, I was like, oh OK, I
receive that.
So we as teachers, as educatorsour patience, our love, our
(17:00):
desire to pull out the bestpossible version we can of that
student, we are in alignmentwith that assignment and it's
extremely challenging, rightLike us, being patient and
(17:21):
forgiving that student day afterday after day after day.
That is what is hard to do,right?
All we can do, a whole bunch ofstuff to like try to change
their behavior, but having thepatience to forgive over and
over and over, like that is hard, but you know what else is
coming up for me that I thinkneeds to be just laid out.
Laura (17:58):
I bet there's some listeners who are having an aha
that they were not safe in theirhome to be themselves, to fully
express who they are.
Think about that.
How many of you and maybe thisis like a poll I'd love to know
how many people felt like, yeah,I grew up in a home where I was
100%.
Whether it was real or imaginedthat they could express who
(18:21):
they were.
Mondo (18:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I mean to piggyback that what if
they still haven't lived aseason of life where they have
explored those other versions ofthemselves?
Laura (18:34):
I want this for everyone.
I want this for everyone.
I want this for everyone todecide that you are going to
explore who you really are.
Mondo (18:44):
Yeah, it's that inner you that's locked in there like
banging at the door trying toget out, like please.
Laura (18:53):
And life is usually trying to tell you things Like.
That's why the quote unquotebad things happen.
It's trying to get you to wakeup.
Mondo (19:02):
Yeah, say more about that , cause I believe that with all
my beingness, oh gosh.
So lean into that a little bitfor us.
Laura (19:11):
Okay, this is a perfect example.
So a couple of weeks ago, um, awoman booked a call with me, um
to see if we were good fits towork together from a coaching
perspective, and, um, the firstthing that she shared with me is
(19:36):
that she is a two time breastcancer survivor and you know it
immediately came to my spiritwas whoa right, that is, dis
ease in the body.
Mondo (19:45):
Dis ease.
Laura (19:45):
That is, dis-ease in the body, dis-ease.
Our bodies are a tuning forkand our bodies will tell us when
we're not in alignment.
Mondo (19:57):
Laura, pause for a second , because you know I love words
and I have never did thedis-ease, never did the dis ease
.
Oh my gosh, did I just teachyou?
Laura (20:10):
You just taught me that.
Mondo (20:14):
That was dope.
Okay, all right, this is mebeing a fan boy.
It's like when you discoversomething new and you're just
like what Mind blown.
That was a mind blowing moment.
Thank you for that.
Happy Friday.
Laura (20:27):
And I'm not saying it's your fault either.
Mondo (20:32):
It's an invitation to explore, like what is going on
in my body that's telling me I'mnot living in alignment the
belief that God is all powerfuland everything is possible can
(20:56):
lead you to believe that somehow, some way, these things that
are happening, that seem like anegative experience, can be for
you and God is Starting to pushyou in a direction, to follow
(21:17):
his guidance, using these forcesthat are disruptive.
Because the whispers and wetalked about this before the
whispers you chose not to listento, right when God was like hey
, I'm over here.
Laura (21:36):
Maybe, maybe change your job, go, you know like, go this
way.
Mondo (21:40):
Yeah.
Laura (21:41):
Turn left.
Mondo (21:42):
Yeah, just you might.
It's free, it's free, it's open.
You can make this choice all byyourself.
And because you chose toprioritize money, because you
were fearful, right, like thisis not A Negative perception of
(22:05):
money, like you shouldn't goearn money, like I'm not saying
that.
What I am saying is, are youmaking decisions about money out
of fear and are youconsistently making the same
choices?
Because the lack of whatevernumber you believe you need to
have in the bank for security,because going below that creates
(22:26):
this level of fear, you neverdo anything that puts you in
position to experience lifeoutside of this container that
you set for yourself.
And so I'm saying that, because, if you would have listened to
God, say, hey, just come thisway, just take this brave step
and take a right, it may havebeen a pathway for an even doper
(22:51):
job or role, making more moneyor having more freedom or having
more control, but because youdidn't see it, you chose not to
pursue it, and so God was like,oh OK, I'll let you continue to
stay on this path, but the nexttime we come around, you're just
(23:15):
going to be fired.
Gosh, you know what I'm saying?
Like I gave you the opportunity.
Well, that's where radicalresponsibility.
Laura (23:23):
At what point are you going to take responsibility?
Mondo (23:27):
Exactly Because God knows your heart and your mind, knows
that you wake up every Mondayfrustrated Like God no, you
can't hide it from God.
So God is like oh, okay, well,like, come this way, like I can
help you resolve that.
But because you are choosingnot to listen, because you are
not taking radicalresponsibility for your energy
(23:49):
that you are showing up with,eventually God is like oh, I
guess I gotta, I gotta help youwith more force.
Um, and I feel like thathappens in our lives over and
over and over and over.
Laura (24:02):
I mean I feel called to share, like I feel super wobbly
right now because I don'tnecessarily know exactly what my
like the bulk of my income isgoing to be coming from.
Like it feels very like I'm ona limb here.
Holy cow, god, where do youhave?
(24:23):
You have me spending time what?
Doing podcasts and puttingcontent out for people,
finishing my book all of thesethings that don't necessarily
make sense because they're notrevenue generating.
And I come from a background oflike make how many outbound
(24:47):
phone calls and outbound emails?
Like every day, you need to behustling, hustling, hustling.
And I'm in this in-between timewhere and I'm in this in-between
time where, yes, I'm stilldoing some recruiting, yes, I am
doing quite a bit of coaching,but I still have these fears
(25:09):
that pop up and they're likewhat if everyone doesn't enjoy
working with you, laura?
Or what if you don't get theoutcomes that you're working
towards together?
And what if, what, if, what?
(25:30):
If I start going down the fear,I start like second guessing
myself.
I start feeling all the thingsthat in the past have held me
back.
In the past, I've held me backfrom really going for it, and I
feel like this is such a bigdeclaration this time, that I'm
(25:54):
supposed to do this to showother people that they can do it
too.
Supposed to do this to showother people that they can do it
too, even though it's reallyscary at times because I'm the
breadwinner for my family.
I just want people to know thatI'm choosing faith.
I'm walking this out in faith,fully expecting the money to be
(26:16):
there.
It's not like I don't havestrategies, but it feels hard
because I've never done thisbefore and so I have to become a
new person, the person whotrusts God 1000%, and that's the
(26:45):
adventure I'm on.
And some days I'm like no, thisis really exciting, but some
days it's really scary, and I'mjust being really honest because
I feel like there's otherpeople out there that need to
know the depth of the emotions,and the depth of it is real when
(27:21):
you can really access it.
There's an overwhelming peaceand overwhelming love that says
I created you to have thisamazing experience.
This gets to be exactly howyou've pictured it in your mind.
Because I know you, because Iam you, I really believe we're
(27:41):
all just mirrors of each other.
There have been dreams thathave been placed in your heart
and they keep eating at youbecause they're supposed to come
into your reality, and so I amallowing myself to dream, and
when they come true, you bet I'mgoing to come on and be like
(28:02):
guys, they came true.
They came true and like howcool is it to then experience
that Even I mean, it doesn'thave to be a big dream.
It could be like I was justtalking to Mano and I before we
got on here.
We're like okay, so we keeptrying to do video and the video
keeps failing.
(28:23):
What the heck?
Even the tripod today justbroke instantly.
Like what?
And so like oh well, one of mydreams is that we have a
beautiful studio.
One of the dreams is that, youknow, there's like professional
cameras and we get to reach somany more people.
(28:45):
So that gets to come true.
Mondo (28:49):
It's just a matter of when.
Laura, you just said so manywords.
One.
(29:21):
Laura, you just said so manywords.
One.
I want to applaud your effortto follow this.
I believe that the humans who gointo that darkness and walk by
faith 150,000% are just able torelate to the discomfort, the
unease, the fear, theuncertainty, like the ones, the
(29:50):
humans who choose to explore allthe versions of themselves,
which is what you are doingright now.
We just see each other right,like the things that you are
saying.
I'm like, I remember that, andso I just want to be your
biggest cheerleader and say keepon going, going, because God
(30:21):
continues.
My belief is God continues toput this fearful weight on top
of your shoulder and more weighton top of your shoulder, and if
you choose to consistently say,all right, god, I'm going to
carry this as many steps as Ican carry, but that step that
you know I'm going to fall andbreak, I know you're going to
take it off because you chooseto believe that and you only
(30:47):
focus on that next step when youbuild that muscle, when you
have so many reps taking thatnext step, that next step, that
next step, you recognize, mybelief is that all this extra
planning that we, as humansneeded to do for a season of our
(31:09):
life is absolutely necessary.
But all those ways that I usedto live, I don't have to live
that way anymore, because Godkept stretching me, stretching
my patience, stretching mybelief, stretching every fiber
of my being to just have faithand trust in him.
(31:32):
Because it happened so manytimes and every time you're like
I have nothing else, this isgoing to break.
Every time you got to thatmoment, god was like here you go
, here you go, here you go.
And it happens over and overand over.
And then eventually you're justlike oh well, the here you go
is just going to happen.
Because I have so much evidenceto back the moments of extreme
(31:58):
doubt that God was just like youmade it this far and so, man,
like the things that Laura aresaying are so real.
Laura (32:05):
But is it just?
I just got to keep.
It's like like the mother reps.
Mondo (32:09):
Yeah, it's just the reps.
It is.
I'll tell a short story BeforeI went through my journey.
I'll tell a short story BeforeI went through my journey.
I walked through the world withall the benefits of
middle-class lifestyle and thenI went from middle-class to
(32:32):
higher middle-class lifestyleand one of the things that I
discovered that I was missing iswhat is I don't want to say
real struggle, because, like all, struggle is real but I had no
(32:52):
idea what it was like to walkthrough the world, to walk
through the world without thefreedom to be able to, like do
what I want, purchase what Iwant, except for like college
and we all kind of experiencedthat in college, where we got a
ramen noodle season Right, butlike outside of that, it was
(33:15):
just like yo.
There are people in the worldwho have to make real dire
choices about life and eventhough I had empathy for that
type of human, I didn'tunderstand how they were
actually feeling, how hard thosechoices were, and I felt like
(33:35):
going through this walk whereyou're exploring the depths of
yourself, where you're riskingeverything, where you're like yo
my life is beautiful, but Ihave to take this risk to blow
it all up and just have faiththat my God is going to not take
this from me.
(34:09):
Embracing that level of faith tome is a type of faith that
somebody must have and walk with, who has next to nothing in
life, where they don't have theprivilege to think oh like, let
me go take these risks and ifthey don't work out, I'll lose
my five bedroom house out.
I'll lose my five bedroom house.
(34:29):
No, it's like, let me go takethis risk and if it doesn't work
, I don't have a place to sleeptonight.
Right, like, some people justhave a different level of
challenge and I felt as if I wasprivileged enough to live a
life where I was so removed fromthose challenges and shout out
to my parents and my family andall that Like I am grateful for
those things.
but for some reason, I believeGod was like if you are going to
(34:53):
be the leader that I need youto be, I need you to go
experience having less.
I need you to go experiencerisking it all and nobody else
understanding why you are makingthis choice.
But you are being obedient tomy words, mondo.
(35:15):
And so, similarly, I feel likeLaura, you are being obedient to
God's word, to his plan for you, and, as uncomfortable as it is
, I believe that it is almostimpossible for you to turn back
around and say I don't want todo it anymore.
Laura (35:34):
No, I've come this far, I didn't just come.
It's kind of like, when Brianlooked at me, we were moments
away from opening Rock U andit's just, it's classic Before
you're about to do somethingreally important in the world,
all this stuff comes at you.
It's like how bad, do youreally want this?
(35:55):
And we it was a season, I meanlike this kid got COVID and then
this kid got COVID, and youremember those times when you
had to keep him home for likethree weeks, four weeks
something like that.
And and they were fine.
They were totally fine.
Um, and then Brian startedgetting these, um, these
(36:18):
debilitating headaches thatwould just knock, and they
weren't.
They're kind of like migraines,but they.
He had to go remove himself andthe only thing that got him
better is if he laid down andslept for a couple hours and
imagine like, okay, I'm handlingall the kids.
He's laying upstairs in bed.
We're apparently supposed toopen next week, what, what.
(36:43):
And I remember, looking himstraight in the eye, I said I'm
like honey, we did not come thisfar to give up.
We did not come this far tojust throw in the towel.
Yeah, and I am so here to tellyou please don't give up on
yourself, because by giving upon yourself, you're giving up on
God.
We don't need to give up onyourself, you're giving up on
(37:05):
God.
We don't need to give up on God.
God is pointing you in theright direction.
He's always pointing you in theright direction.
It's just are you listening?
Are you being still?
And I know for me that has beenthe most transformative
practice is I've found how toget still because I'm the
(37:30):
classic go, go, go, do, do, do.
My performance is tied to howmuch stuff I get done in a day
that is how I would.
Was today a good day?
Yes, because I got 12 out ofthe 12 things checked off on my
list, and now it is so much moreabout the depth of the
(37:51):
conversations that I get to havewith people like touching
people's hearts in a way thatthey will never be the same.
I am here to just make surethat I touch your heart in a way
that, even if we never meetagain, if you hear my name I
hope you think fondly of me.
(38:12):
It is a soul, a deep, deep soulconnection that I am able to
help you.
And whatever that breakthroughis and maybe it's a really small
breakthrough and maybe at firstit rattles you because
(38:34):
sometimes truth at first ithurts it hurts because we think,
oh man, I got a characterdefect.
Shoot, I got a character defect.
I know that's where I was.
For a long time I was like, oh,I guess I'm just not good
enough.
I sat in that for a long timebefore I came across that lovely
(39:01):
journal that had my obituary inthere and I'm like oh, am I
really living into this person?
Am I being this person?
That was a moment of like,shoot, am I going to be this
person that I really want to be?
Really want to be and so that'sthe guiding light now is like
(39:29):
am I going about my day beingthe kind, loving, compassionate
person who can slow down andreally be with the people she
loves?
Mondo (39:39):
I love that.
I love that.
One of the things that hit me,as you were saying that, is if
somebody's like, okay, where doI start?
Right, Laura and I are bothabout three years in give or
take, and so the things that weare going through right now is
(40:01):
around that three year arc ofenergy spirit challenges is
around that three year arc ofenergy spirit challenges, and so
for the person who wants tostart right now, I want to offer
how or where I started, verysmall, and I say very small
because it gives you theopportunity to start there if
(40:23):
you would like to.
You don't have to make theseagreements, but this is just how
I started to retrain my brainto start and do things
differently.
So one of the things Laura justtalked about was stillness.
Without a doubt, it doesn'tmatter who you are or where
(40:43):
you're at, Eventually you aregoing to have to experience a
season of stillness.
How or when that happens, Idon't know what that plan is for
you, but just know stillness ispart of the experience.
For me, one of the things thathappened a few years ago was and
(41:15):
this goes to my play on words,which is why, when Laura said,
dis-ease blew my mind.
But there was a season a fewyears ago where I loved whiskey.
I'm talking about absolutely100%.
Everybody is coming to Mondo'shouse to get some good whiskey
and for some reason I can'tremember what I watched or what
(41:40):
I saw and something in my spiritwas like you need to stop
drinking whiskey for whateverreason.
And when I stopped, like when Imade the conscious choice to
stop, my spirit was like oh yeah, like when you go to the liquor
(42:01):
store, you're going to buyspirits and you like whiskey,
and that whiskey is dark, and soyou are choosing to put this
dark spirit into your being,into your body.
Once that thought hit, I waslike well, clearly I'm not going
(42:22):
to choose to do that again.
It was just something thatresonated with me.
(42:49):
It was a story that made sensethat this is a spirit.
God was like well, now you getto choose.
I gave you this framework thatI know hit.
Laura (42:58):
I know is vibing with you .
Mondo (43:01):
Are you going to ignore it or are you going to continue
to embrace it?
I chose to give up whiskey andgive up hard liquor.
This is the second part where Iget to stillness, and I'll lob
it back to Laura.
Because I gave up whiskey, godwas like oh, thank you for doing
(43:22):
that.
The thing that you were blindedto is you weren't actually
seeking whiskey, you are seekingthe wise key.
Right Like whiskey.
You seeing it over and over andover was just something that
every time you look, you wouldsee wise and you would see key.
(43:43):
Now that you don't have whiskeyin you anymore, I am going to
put you on this track to haveyour wise key.
You are going to start seeingthings in the world in a way
that others aren't able to seeit because you're not putting
this dark spirit into your body.
So I'm going to clear yoursight a little bit more To the
(44:11):
stillness piece.
God was like you love Superman.
Superman is the man of steel,can leap buildings and do all
these things or whatever.
And God was like not the man ofsteel, as in metal, the man of
(44:34):
steel, as in be still.
Do you have the discipline, thecourage to be still STILL.
And so I just want to like saythese, like moments of just
interactions with God that I had.
That really resonated with me.
It just hit.
I was just like, oh, that camefrom God, because I'd never
thought of those words that way.
If you in your life know thatthis thing keeps showing up for
(44:59):
you and you're like, why is thishere, why is this happening?
Be still, stop drinking for 30days, and I believe that God
will reveal what he is actuallytrying to tell you.
That thing is just there to bea trigger for you to pause, be
still and pivot to a differentdirection.
Laura (45:22):
Oh wow.
So that was just part of mystarting and I'm kind of what
I'm processing this.
We're not saying that.
That is exactly what you needto do, because here I am, going
on my journey.
I still drink whiskey time totime I mean not often, but every
(45:46):
once in a while.
My practices are different thanMondo's.
Your practices will bedifferent than ours.
The key is awareness, awareness.
Awareness awareness when youcan become conscious of things
(46:08):
that are unconscious.
So think about this when youwake up in the morning, what's
the first thing you do?
Are you checking your email?
Are you going to social mediaLike are you getting pulled into
what I call other programs, yesor are you being intentional
(46:30):
about what you want your day tolook and feel like?
This is the invitation.
Do you get pulled into the quote, unquote world and what they
say is important and they aretelling you and what they say is
important and they are tellingyou?
Or are you going to summon yourenergy and place it on yourself
(46:53):
and your direct relationshipwith God and say God, what do we
want to create today, what dowe want this day to feel like?
And that's what I do in themorning Now I just I go through
like this movie in my mind.
It's like I see the differentscenes from the day of me
interacting with people.
I know I'm going to see um andjust smiles and joy and like, oh
(47:18):
, so we get to create it throughour imagination and then it
like I know every day I'm likewow, that that scene in my mind
that actually happened.
Mondo (47:32):
That's awesome.
That is so awesome.
And this this is why I lovedoing this podcast with Laura
because of the contrast, becauseof how our approaches have been
different.
We chose to embrace differentthings.
God chose to talk to usdifferently and between the two
(47:53):
of us there's a lot of recipes.
Right, pick one.
And when she was talking aboutvisualizing her day and all the
things that she was going toexperience, I was like that's
such an awesome recipe and it'snot mine and I'm just like how
(48:15):
dope is that and how is thatplaying out in the world over
and over and over, when you havea recipe for yourself but you
are trying to project your wayon everybody else?
Laura (48:29):
This is exactly what we're talking about.
How do we seek to understandsomeone else?
Mondo (48:37):
Yes.
Laura (48:37):
Like again your ways.
If I were to adopt the way ofyour lifestyle, I'm like.
That just doesn't speak to meat all.
Mondo (48:45):
Yeah.
Laura (48:46):
But the invitation is how do I almost have these, um,
almost like like a childlikecuriosity, like, oh, I'd like to
be Mando, to walk through lifea day in the life, and how he
thinks and how he experiencesthings?
(49:06):
And that is the coolest partabout this thing called life is
because now, like wow, that's sodifferent from my experience,
but I can see how much joy itbrings you and if all,
ultimately, we can all live inthat world where we can
appreciate each other's choices.
Mondo (49:30):
I mean, yeah, it's a win to me.
It's a win, one of the thingsthat you said that made me think
of this analogy that I haveused in like a presentation one
time.
But let me try to paint thepicture to piggyback what Laura
just said.
I imagine going into a museumwith a bunch of paintings, right
(49:52):
, and you have this guidewalking you through the museum
and you see this piece of artand the art has a name, but
they're just like, oh, that's aPicasso.
And you go to the next thingand the art has a name, but
they're just like, oh, that's aPicasso.
And you go to the next thingand the art has a name and
(50:14):
they're like, well, that's aMichelangelo, right.
And then you just keep goingthrough this museum and then you
get to a point in the museumwhere they move back a curtain.
And a human is standing thereand they say that's laura king,
that's a god.
Not that laura is a god, butlaura is the work of art of the
(50:40):
creator, right my expression mycorrectness all the way of my
being everything about you apainting?
yep, is an expression of god'sart, right, and so it's like,
yeah, like every stroke of laurais so amazing and so unique and
(51:02):
is an expression of God'screativity.
My expression of God'screativity is different, and we
both can look at ourselves inthe mirror and at each other and
be like you're a beautiful art,right.
And if we just start looking atothers that same way and being
like that is God's expression ofart on a different canvas and a
(51:24):
different canvas, and adifferent canvas to Laura's
point, let me go find out how Iappreciate that canvas, right?
Oh man, that person looks sodifferent.
Ah, that doesn't really alignwith anything that I have
experienced before.
I then think, when we look atBasquiat as an artist so
(51:49):
abstract, we're like that.
That image is fire, we don'teven know why it's dope, but
we're just like that is a greatexpression of art.
So I do my best to look atother humans when they don't
look like me or they're sodifferent or removed from who I
am, and I'm just like that'sGod's version of Basquiat in
(52:12):
human form.
Right, that is his expression.
Like it's not supposed to fitin.
However, it is still beautiful,and so that mindset of
unconditional love, of showingup and just wanting to love on
everything around you, becauseyou recognize that everything
comes from the spirit of God,from the creativity of God.
(52:33):
When you start to seek to seethe world that way, fulfillment
is within reach, because thennothing around you is against
you.
Everything is just art for youto experience.
Laura (52:49):
It's all for you.
Mondo (52:50):
All of it.
Laura (52:51):
All of it.
Mondo (52:53):
All of it, and so that's a lot of words.
I feel like Laura and I threwout today.
Laura (53:03):
I am like still processing Holy cow.
That was a lot Mondo.
Mondo (53:09):
So for the listeners, like Laura and I, we started
this podcast.
We were like you know what, weshould find a way to go a little
bit deeper today, Like let'sjust really try to tune into the
spirit of God and figure outwhat we're supposed to say today
.
Laura (53:23):
And I feel like we did a good job Through the podcast.
Send us a text, let us know.
You know, we'd love, we'd loveyour ratings and reviews.
Seriously, like if we can helpmore people.
That's our intention here.
Like how can we, how can we bea trusted voice to more people?
Mondo (53:40):
How can we?
Please ask the questions.
Please send in suggestions.
We we want to keep going.
Yes, we Please ask thequestions.
Please send in suggestions.
We want to keep going.
Yes, we do.
And, as Laura said earlier, ifsomebody is sitting around like,
yeah, we've got a studio withcameras, we'll pull up.
Alright from Mondo and Laura,we're out of here.
(54:00):
Peace, peace.
Welcome to the Heavenly Human Podcast, where we help you
find fulfillment.
My name is Ahramondo, but youcan call me Mondo, and I am here
with the amazing Laura King.
What's up, Laura?
How are?
Laura (00:16):
you Good morning.
Good morning, happy Friday toyou.
Mondo (00:19):
Oh, it is Friday.
It is a good Friday for me,laura.
I got to tell you why it's agood Friday for me and I haven't
even let you know this yet.
It is a great Friday for mebecause 24 hours ago I got a
text from my daughter and shesays Dad, today I am committing
(00:40):
to Texas Southern University andI was like that's dope and so
just proud dad moment of youknow, figuring out what college
you want to go to during thevisit, feeling like there is
something about Houston, texas,that just aligns with her spirit
, and I just felt proud of her.
(01:02):
So yesterday was definitely aproud parent moment and I feel
good.
Laura (01:08):
That's amazing.
Yeah, I had not a great parentsmoment this morning.
One of my sons decided to startsaying things like you must
hate me, you must hate me, youmust hate me, in response to his
older brother making fun of him.
And then he just went on a rantand so I mean I, just before he
(01:31):
came here, I was almost intears.
I'm like, okay, there's clearlysomething with him that's
really he's, he's upset about,he's telling himself a story.
That's not true.
Mondo (01:44):
Yeah.
Laura (01:45):
And he's telling himself a story that mom and dad don't
love him as much as they lovehis other brothers.
So this is like okay, ding,ding, ding.
There's something here thatbrian and I need to be very
aware of.
With our third born, and he'sfeeling left out third born, so
there's a younger one, so he'sand and so, and he's not quite
(02:11):
as quote-unquote like athleticas his older brother yeah, old,
both of his older brothers andso he's finding his way.
He's finding his way.
He's finding his way of, youknow, even in this family, of
what's what's his identity.
Mondo (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, wow, and how old?
Seven, seven, okay.
So finding your identity atseven, that's a.
Thing.
Laura (02:36):
But, but you know, his first, his first reaction was
rage this morning, and so,whatever that happens, I know,
okay, that clearly shows methere's something in me that
isn't healed, because anytime,my oh, my gosh, yeah, anytime
they're acting up, that alwaysmeans there's something in me
that needs to be looked at.
(02:57):
So I'm going to be sitting outwith that this weekend.
Mondo (03:01):
Tell me why or how you got to a point in your journey
that you chose to agree withthat meaning.
Something is going on with myson.
There must be something wrong,not wrong.
There must be an imbalance inme.
How did you get there?
Laura (03:17):
um, I heard god tell me to heal yourself, Laura, and
they will be healed, Like Iheard that voice and every time
I see something in them, that isthe the first place I go is
where within you are you nothealed?
(03:40):
Are where with?
Where within you are you notloving yourself?
Mondo (03:47):
you not healed, or where within you are you not loving
yourself?
Oh, okay, yeah, one of thepieces of language that you said
was my son is telling himselfthis story, he's believing in a
certain story, and so he'sacting out because he has made
some agreements with this story.
And I was actually thinkingabout this this morning, just
around the stories that wechoose to agree with, right, the
(04:09):
things that are in our mind.
To your point.
Similarly, I didn't hear thisfrom God, but the connection
that I made in my life was,growing up, we always have this
family tree, right, like, createyour family tree and put your
brothers and your mom, dad,cousins, uncles, all on this
(04:30):
family tree.
And so the symbolism of thisfamily tree for me now is well,
how healthy is this tree?
And so you just said somethingthat was extremely profound to
me, which is well, if I healsomething in myself, is it going
to heal a piece of this tree?
(04:53):
And so then I had to startthinking to myself all right,
mondo, where in the tree do youbelieve you are?
Do you believe that you are abranch?
Believe you are?
Do you believe that you are abranch?
And so, if you heal yourself,then the extensions of your
branch will be healed?
Or do you believe that you area root, and if you heal yourself
(05:14):
, then the rest of the treebegins to heal itself?
And so I'm not telling anybodyelse what they have to believe.
I chose to believe that I am aroot for my family tree, and so
it is my responsibility tobecome the most healed version
of myself, because theneverything that sprouts from
(05:35):
those roots will experience sometype of transformation or some
type of healing.
And so, again to your pointwhat story are we telling
ourselves?
What are we choosing to believe?
And then are we going all in onthose beliefs?
Laura (05:52):
There's just something that really resonates with me,
and it relates to exactly whatwe wanted to talk about today.
How cool is that?
I didn't even plan this.
Radical responsibility, yes,radical responsibility.
Responsibility, yes, radicalresponsibility.
And so what I'm taking fromthis situation this morning with
my son is hmm, I'm going to sitwith this, I'm going to sit
with this and see where I'mbeing guided, because these,
(06:18):
these moments are so, and again,it doesn't matter if you have
kids or not, but if there arethings that are showing you that
like for me, just seeing thefear on his face, seeing the
unworthiness on his face, I'mlike that's not true.
(06:39):
That's not true.
True, but I, as a parent, needto take radical responsibility
for showing my son that he ispure love and that he is um
1000% worthy.
By the way that I make him feelso, are there things that I'm
(07:01):
doing maybe not even consciously, maybe it's subconsciously that
are making him believe thatstory?
So, that's the check with me.
I'm like, okay, what am I doing?
That's feeding into this story.
Mondo (07:17):
If you're listening to this part, this is where I
really do want you to pause andreflect, because I imagine there
is someone in your life arelative, a friend, just
somebody in close proximity andwhen you look at them or when
you think about theircharacteristics and your
behavior, you're thinking I needto fix them or they need to be
(07:40):
fixed it is something that isnot related to you, and what
Laura just said is she has madea conscious choice to believe.
The way for me to support thisother human that is not me is to
work on me and through mebecoming the most balanced
(08:01):
version of myself, the mostbalanced version of myself, my
expression of love will be amirror that they then are like
oh, it's happening.
I want some of that.
What do you get?
Right?
Like you then become a rolemodel, which is a word you use a
(08:21):
lot, right?
Yes, you then be the role modelmindset.
Right, they're just like.
They don't even know what it is,but they're just you know.
They're like what is Lauradoing?
What is she eating?
What is she thinking?
What is she drinking?
Like like, there's justsomething about Laura that I
want.
And then they then go on theirjourney to try to discover that
for themselves.
And so it's just.
It's so dope to hear you saythese words out loud, laura,
(08:44):
like I see something outside ofme that doesn't feel balanced,
and instead of trying to likeglue it together, you go within
and you're like let me find thispiece in me that might not be
fully healed or balanced yet,and when I do that I believe
that is it is going to helpserve this other human.
Laura (09:04):
And when he left, got on the bus, I was sitting here
doing the dishes, veryintentionally doing the dishes,
thinking I'm sending him love,I'm sending him love, I'm
sending him love.
I visualized him going throughhis day with smiles, with people
seeing his gifts, his friendsgiving him a high five for him
(09:26):
to experience so much love today.
Oh my gosh, that feels way moreimportant than answering 150
emails that I have to do.
Yeah, I mean, this is, this iswhat I'm talking about the old
Laura versus the new Laura.
Like old Laura would have juststuffed it under the rug and
like I'll deal with that later,that's you know.
(09:47):
Whatever I got, I've got quoteunquote more important things to
do.
What is more important thanmaking my son feel loved?
Mondo (09:56):
Nothing.
Laura (09:56):
I mean let's.
Mondo (09:58):
Let's say that with emphasis nothing right, like I'm
not big into scripture versesRight, but the few that I have I
like really embrace.
And the one that says, like yourtreasure is where your heart
will be.
Right Is, like, so real withthe tasks that you need to do,
(10:28):
to do work or whatever somebodyoutside of your household, or is
your heart with your kids oryour husband right?
And so when those things arestanding right in front of you
and you have to choose, you haveto prioritize one.
In spirit, you're saying God,this is what I am choosing in
this moment, right, and God'slike, ok, cool, if it is your
son, then that energy that youare putting out for your son
(10:49):
will be delivered.
If it is for work and if youchoose that path, cool, you're
going to reap all the benefitsof that in your work life.
But that other person who alsoneeds you might feel inadequate
because they don't feel thatpresence, they don't feel you
filling this, the world, withenergy and love when they get on
the bus, right, like, like yourson feels that and doesn't even
(11:11):
know that he feels it Right.
Laura (11:13):
But you are just that intentional to care for the
person that you love which islike really bringing me to like
the other aha that I'm justswimming in this week, which is
understanding how powerful likeI am from an energetic
(11:33):
standpoint and how my energy canactually affect other people's
energy.
And so, like that has been thiswhole journey of, even you know
, my healing and what's happenedin this household to see my
kids go from you know just, Imean rage and and and throwing
(11:57):
things and leaving the house andthreatening to to not come back
.
I mean, like it was, it was bad, mondo, it was bad and that was
at the height of my feeling.
So far from God, so far fromGod and like gosh, I just think
about, wow, think not that youneed to change anyone, but when
(12:22):
you change even your attitude,with, okay, checking in with my
energy right now, what kind ofenergy am I giving off?
And oh, wow, was I giving offthis fearful, anxious energy to
my kids?
You bet I was, and that was thehousehold, that was the energy.
(12:44):
And then now you know, becauseI'm consciously choosing it,
maybe this morning I felt maybeI was a little lazy, I don't
know, I was like not asintentional and engaged that
this occurred, occurred, but Iam really waking up to all of
(13:05):
these, um, these gifts that Ihave and gifts I see in others,
and like, oh my gosh, do werealize that we are, we are
meant to use our gifts to helpothers, like?
I know that sounds so basicwhen you listen to those words,
(13:26):
but no, truly.
Especially if you're in a jobright now, are you really using
your gifts?
And I think this is part ofthis.
This transformation that we'reon is a redirection, because if
you're not using your gifts,what are you doing?
(13:49):
Yeah, what are you doing?
And that's maybe where you feelthe lack of fulfillment is
because somewhere in you likesomewhere in your body,
somewhere in your spirit,somewhere in your mind, you're
like Like.
Somewhere in your body,somewhere in your spirit,
somewhere in your mind, you'relike I know there's more, I know
(14:09):
there's more, I know there'smore, and that push, pull, push,
pull, push, pull.
I'm telling you it sucks.
It sucks to be in this, like inbetween, when you're like well,
that sounds just too good to betrue, Laura.
Mondo (14:36):
Who's going to just pay me to use my gifts?
Yeah, yeah, who's going to payme to use my gifts?
Oh, one of the things that cameto me when you were telling
that story was in a past life.
I was an educator at anelementary school and it was one
of the most challengingelementary schools in St Paul,
quote unquote.
But we had some of the mostamazing teachers.
(15:00):
Like when it comes to putting astamp of approval on good
humans coming together to doamazing things to serve others,
I give this staff an a plus,plus, plus.
Like we were all in yes, andthat also meant we had some of
(15:22):
the most challenging students inthe district, and I remember
that also meant we had some ofthe most challenging students in
the district.
And I remember Parents wouldsay for some students well, my
kid doesn't act that way at home, right, and I had heard it so
(15:44):
much that it created thisdissonance of like.
So you're saying your kid is asaint at home, but they come to
school and their behavior is farfrom saint like OK, if I take
that as truth, why is thatstudent acting that way in
school?
Why is that student acting thatway in school?
And I think it was a counselorone day that said that just
(16:17):
means that that kid feels safeenough to do those behaviors
Like at home.
There's such a rigid Set ofrules that they never get to
fully express themselves, and sowhen they come to school and
they do these extra things, itis like literally their inner
spirit saying finally, I havesome freedom to discover who I
am.
And so when you're talking andsaying these things about your
(16:38):
son, I'm just like, oh yeah,like he feels safe enough to do
this at home because of yourpatience, because you are going
to continue to send them love.
And when that counselor told methat, I was like, oh OK, I
receive that.
So we as teachers, as educatorsour patience, our love, our
(17:00):
desire to pull out the bestpossible version we can of that
student, we are in alignmentwith that assignment and it's
extremely challenging, rightLike us, being patient and
(17:21):
forgiving that student day afterday after day after day.
That is what is hard to do,right?
All we can do, a whole bunch ofstuff to like try to change
their behavior, but having thepatience to forgive over and
over and over, like that is hard, but you know what else is
coming up for me that I thinkneeds to be just laid out.
Laura (17:58):
I bet there's some listeners who are having an aha
that they were not safe in theirhome to be themselves, to fully
express who they are.
Think about that.
How many of you and maybe thisis like a poll I'd love to know
how many people felt like, yeah,I grew up in a home where I was
100%.
Whether it was real or imaginedthat they could express who
(18:21):
they were.
Mondo (18:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I mean to piggyback that what if
they still haven't lived aseason of life where they have
explored those other versions ofthemselves?
Laura (18:34):
I want this for everyone.
I want this for everyone.
I want this for everyone todecide that you are going to
explore who you really are.
Mondo (18:44):
Yeah, it's that inner you that's locked in there like
banging at the door trying toget out, like please.
Laura (18:53):
And life is usually trying to tell you things Like.
That's why the quote unquotebad things happen.
It's trying to get you to wakeup.
Mondo (19:02):
Yeah, say more about that , cause I believe that with all
my beingness, oh gosh.
So lean into that a little bitfor us.
Laura (19:11):
Okay, this is a perfect example.
So a couple of weeks ago, um, awoman booked a call with me, um
to see if we were good fits towork together from a coaching
perspective, and, um, the firstthing that she shared with me is
(19:36):
that she is a two time breastcancer survivor and you know it
immediately came to my spiritwas whoa right, that is, dis
ease in the body.
Mondo (19:45):
Dis ease.
Laura (19:45):
That is, dis-ease in the body, dis-ease.
Our bodies are a tuning forkand our bodies will tell us when
we're not in alignment.
Mondo (19:57):
Laura, pause for a second , because you know I love words
and I have never did thedis-ease, never did the dis ease
.
Oh my gosh, did I just teachyou?
Laura (20:10):
You just taught me that.
Mondo (20:14):
That was dope.
Okay, all right, this is mebeing a fan boy.
It's like when you discoversomething new and you're just
like what Mind blown.
That was a mind blowing moment.
Thank you for that.
Happy Friday.
Laura (20:27):
And I'm not saying it's your fault either.
Mondo (20:32):
It's an invitation to explore, like what is going on
in my body that's telling me I'mnot living in alignment the
belief that God is all powerfuland everything is possible can
(20:56):
lead you to believe that somehow, some way, these things that
are happening, that seem like anegative experience, can be for
you and God is Starting to pushyou in a direction, to follow
(21:17):
his guidance, using these forcesthat are disruptive.
Because the whispers and wetalked about this before the
whispers you chose not to listento, right when God was like hey
, I'm over here.
Laura (21:36):
Maybe, maybe change your job, go, you know like, go this
way.
Mondo (21:40):
Yeah.
Laura (21:41):
Turn left.
Mondo (21:42):
Yeah, just you might.
It's free, it's free, it's open.
You can make this choice all byyourself.
And because you chose toprioritize money, because you
were fearful, right, like thisis not A Negative perception of
(22:05):
money, like you shouldn't goearn money, like I'm not saying
that.
What I am saying is, are youmaking decisions about money out
of fear and are youconsistently making the same
choices?
Because the lack of whatevernumber you believe you need to
have in the bank for security,because going below that creates
(22:26):
this level of fear, you neverdo anything that puts you in
position to experience lifeoutside of this container that
you set for yourself.
And so I'm saying that, because, if you would have listened to
God, say, hey, just come thisway, just take this brave step
and take a right, it may havebeen a pathway for an even doper
(22:51):
job or role, making more moneyor having more freedom or having
more control, but because youdidn't see it, you chose not to
pursue it, and so God was like,oh OK, I'll let you continue to
stay on this path, but the nexttime we come around, you're just
(23:15):
going to be fired.
Gosh, you know what I'm saying?
Like I gave you the opportunity.
Well, that's where radicalresponsibility.
Laura (23:23):
At what point are you going to take responsibility?
Mondo (23:27):
Exactly Because God knows your heart and your mind, knows
that you wake up every Mondayfrustrated Like God no, you
can't hide it from God.
So God is like oh, okay, well,like, come this way, like I can
help you resolve that.
But because you are choosingnot to listen, because you are
not taking radicalresponsibility for your energy
(23:49):
that you are showing up with,eventually God is like oh, I
guess I gotta, I gotta help youwith more force.
Um, and I feel like thathappens in our lives over and
over and over and over.
Laura (24:02):
I mean I feel called to share, like I feel super wobbly
right now because I don'tnecessarily know exactly what my
like the bulk of my income isgoing to be coming from.
Like it feels very like I'm ona limb here.
Holy cow, god, where do youhave?
(24:23):
You have me spending time what?
Doing podcasts and puttingcontent out for people,
finishing my book all of thesethings that don't necessarily
make sense because they're notrevenue generating.
And I come from a background oflike make how many outbound
(24:47):
phone calls and outbound emails?
Like every day, you need to behustling, hustling, hustling.
And I'm in this in-between timewhere and I'm in this in-between
time where, yes, I'm stilldoing some recruiting, yes, I am
doing quite a bit of coaching,but I still have these fears
(25:09):
that pop up and they're likewhat if everyone doesn't enjoy
working with you, laura?
Or what if you don't get theoutcomes that you're working
towards together?
And what if, what, if, what?
(25:30):
If I start going down the fear,I start like second guessing
myself.
I start feeling all the thingsthat in the past have held me
back.
In the past, I've held me backfrom really going for it, and I
feel like this is such a bigdeclaration this time, that I'm
(25:54):
supposed to do this to showother people that they can do it
too.
Supposed to do this to showother people that they can do it
too, even though it's reallyscary at times because I'm the
breadwinner for my family.
I just want people to know thatI'm choosing faith.
I'm walking this out in faith,fully expecting the money to be
(26:16):
there.
It's not like I don't havestrategies, but it feels hard
because I've never done thisbefore and so I have to become a
new person, the person whotrusts God 1000%, and that's the
(26:45):
adventure I'm on.
And some days I'm like no, thisis really exciting, but some
days it's really scary, and I'mjust being really honest because
I feel like there's otherpeople out there that need to
know the depth of the emotions,and the depth of it is real when
(27:21):
you can really access it.
There's an overwhelming peaceand overwhelming love that says
I created you to have thisamazing experience.
This gets to be exactly howyou've pictured it in your mind.
Because I know you, because Iam you, I really believe we're
(27:41):
all just mirrors of each other.
There have been dreams thathave been placed in your heart
and they keep eating at youbecause they're supposed to come
into your reality, and so I amallowing myself to dream, and
when they come true, you bet I'mgoing to come on and be like
(28:02):
guys, they came true.
They came true and like howcool is it to then experience
that Even I mean, it doesn'thave to be a big dream.
It could be like I was justtalking to Mano and I before we
got on here.
We're like okay, so we keeptrying to do video and the video
keeps failing.
(28:23):
What the heck?
Even the tripod today justbroke instantly.
Like what?
And so like oh well, one of mydreams is that we have a
beautiful studio.
One of the dreams is that, youknow, there's like professional
cameras and we get to reach somany more people.
(28:45):
So that gets to come true.
Mondo (28:49):
It's just a matter of when.
Laura, you just said so manywords.
One.
(29:21):
Laura, you just said so manywords.
One.
I want to applaud your effortto follow this.
I believe that the humans who gointo that darkness and walk by
faith 150,000% are just able torelate to the discomfort, the
unease, the fear, theuncertainty, like the ones, the
(29:50):
humans who choose to explore allthe versions of themselves,
which is what you are doingright now.
We just see each other right,like the things that you are
saying.
I'm like, I remember that, andso I just want to be your
biggest cheerleader and say keepon going, going, because God
(30:21):
continues.
My belief is God continues toput this fearful weight on top
of your shoulder and more weighton top of your shoulder, and if
you choose to consistently say,all right, god, I'm going to
carry this as many steps as Ican carry, but that step that
you know I'm going to fall andbreak, I know you're going to
take it off because you chooseto believe that and you only
(30:47):
focus on that next step when youbuild that muscle, when you
have so many reps taking thatnext step, that next step, that
next step, you recognize, mybelief is that all this extra
planning that we, as humansneeded to do for a season of our
(31:09):
life is absolutely necessary.
But all those ways that I usedto live, I don't have to live
that way anymore, because Godkept stretching me, stretching
my patience, stretching mybelief, stretching every fiber
of my being to just have faithand trust in him.
(31:32):
Because it happened so manytimes and every time you're like
I have nothing else, this isgoing to break.
Every time you got to thatmoment, god was like here you go
, here you go, here you go.
And it happens over and overand over.
And then eventually you're justlike oh well, the here you go
is just going to happen.
Because I have so much evidenceto back the moments of extreme
(31:58):
doubt that God was just like youmade it this far and so, man,
like the things that Laura aresaying are so real.
Laura (32:05):
But is it just?
I just got to keep.
It's like like the mother reps.
Mondo (32:09):
Yeah, it's just the reps.
It is.
I'll tell a short story BeforeI went through my journey.
I'll tell a short story BeforeI went through my journey.
I walked through the world withall the benefits of
middle-class lifestyle and thenI went from middle-class to
(32:32):
higher middle-class lifestyleand one of the things that I
discovered that I was missing iswhat is I don't want to say
real struggle, because, like all, struggle is real but I had no
(32:52):
idea what it was like to walkthrough the world, to walk
through the world without thefreedom to be able to, like do
what I want, purchase what Iwant, except for like college
and we all kind of experiencedthat in college, where we got a
ramen noodle season Right, butlike outside of that, it was
(33:15):
just like yo.
There are people in the worldwho have to make real dire
choices about life and eventhough I had empathy for that
type of human, I didn'tunderstand how they were
actually feeling, how hard thosechoices were, and I felt like
(33:35):
going through this walk whereyou're exploring the depths of
yourself, where you're riskingeverything, where you're like yo
my life is beautiful, but Ihave to take this risk to blow
it all up and just have faiththat my God is going to not take
this from me.
(34:09):
Embracing that level of faith tome is a type of faith that
somebody must have and walk with, who has next to nothing in
life, where they don't have theprivilege to think oh like, let
me go take these risks and ifthey don't work out, I'll lose
my five bedroom house out.
I'll lose my five bedroom house.
(34:29):
No, it's like, let me go takethis risk and if it doesn't work
, I don't have a place to sleeptonight.
Right, like, some people justhave a different level of
challenge and I felt as if I wasprivileged enough to live a
life where I was so removed fromthose challenges and shout out
to my parents and my family andall that Like I am grateful for
those things.
but for some reason, I believeGod was like if you are going to
(34:53):
be the leader that I need youto be, I need you to go
experience having less.
I need you to go experiencerisking it all and nobody else
understanding why you are makingthis choice.
But you are being obedient tomy words, mondo.
(35:15):
And so, similarly, I feel likeLaura, you are being obedient to
God's word, to his plan for you, and, as uncomfortable as it is
, I believe that it is almostimpossible for you to turn back
around and say I don't want todo it anymore.
Laura (35:34):
No, I've come this far, I didn't just come.
It's kind of like, when Brianlooked at me, we were moments
away from opening Rock U andit's just, it's classic Before
you're about to do somethingreally important in the world,
all this stuff comes at you.
It's like how bad, do youreally want this?
(35:55):
And we it was a season, I meanlike this kid got COVID and then
this kid got COVID, and youremember those times when you
had to keep him home for likethree weeks, four weeks
something like that.
And and they were fine.
They were totally fine.
Um, and then Brian startedgetting these, um, these
(36:18):
debilitating headaches thatwould just knock, and they
weren't.
They're kind of like migraines,but they.
He had to go remove himself andthe only thing that got him
better is if he laid down andslept for a couple hours and
imagine like, okay, I'm handlingall the kids.
He's laying upstairs in bed.
We're apparently supposed toopen next week, what, what.
(36:43):
And I remember, looking himstraight in the eye, I said I'm
like honey, we did not come thisfar to give up.
We did not come this far tojust throw in the towel.
Yeah, and I am so here to tellyou please don't give up on
yourself, because by giving upon yourself, you're giving up on
God.
We don't need to give up onyourself, you're giving up on
(37:05):
God.
We don't need to give up on God.
God is pointing you in theright direction.
He's always pointing you in theright direction.
It's just are you listening?
Are you being still?
And I know for me that has beenthe most transformative
practice is I've found how toget still because I'm the
(37:30):
classic go, go, go, do, do, do.
My performance is tied to howmuch stuff I get done in a day
that is how I would.
Was today a good day?
Yes, because I got 12 out ofthe 12 things checked off on my
list, and now it is so much moreabout the depth of the
(37:51):
conversations that I get to havewith people like touching
people's hearts in a way thatthey will never be the same.
I am here to just make surethat I touch your heart in a way
that, even if we never meetagain, if you hear my name I
hope you think fondly of me.
(38:12):
It is a soul, a deep, deep soulconnection that I am able to
help you.
And whatever that breakthroughis and maybe it's a really small
breakthrough and maybe at firstit rattles you because
(38:34):
sometimes truth at first ithurts it hurts because we think,
oh man, I got a characterdefect.
Shoot, I got a character defect.
I know that's where I was.
For a long time I was like, oh,I guess I'm just not good
enough.
I sat in that for a long timebefore I came across that lovely
(39:01):
journal that had my obituary inthere and I'm like oh, am I
really living into this person?
Am I being this person?
That was a moment of like,shoot, am I going to be this
person that I really want to be?
Really want to be and so that'sthe guiding light now is like
(39:29):
am I going about my day beingthe kind, loving, compassionate
person who can slow down andreally be with the people she
loves?
Mondo (39:39):
I love that.
I love that.
One of the things that hit me,as you were saying that, is if
somebody's like, okay, where doI start?
Right, Laura and I are bothabout three years in give or
take, and so the things that weare going through right now is
(40:01):
around that three year arc ofenergy spirit challenges is
around that three year arc ofenergy spirit challenges, and so
for the person who wants tostart right now, I want to offer
how or where I started, verysmall, and I say very small
because it gives you theopportunity to start there if
(40:23):
you would like to.
You don't have to make theseagreements, but this is just how
I started to retrain my brainto start and do things
differently.
So one of the things Laura justtalked about was stillness.
Without a doubt, it doesn'tmatter who you are or where
(40:43):
you're at, Eventually you aregoing to have to experience a
season of stillness.
How or when that happens, Idon't know what that plan is for
you, but just know stillness ispart of the experience.
For me, one of the things thathappened a few years ago was and
(41:15):
this goes to my play on words,which is why, when Laura said,
dis-ease blew my mind.
But there was a season a fewyears ago where I loved whiskey.
I'm talking about absolutely100%.
Everybody is coming to Mondo'shouse to get some good whiskey
and for some reason I can'tremember what I watched or what
(41:40):
I saw and something in my spiritwas like you need to stop
drinking whiskey for whateverreason.
And when I stopped, like when Imade the conscious choice to
stop, my spirit was like oh yeah, like when you go to the liquor
(42:01):
store, you're going to buyspirits and you like whiskey,
and that whiskey is dark, and soyou are choosing to put this
dark spirit into your being,into your body.
Once that thought hit, I waslike well, clearly I'm not going
(42:22):
to choose to do that again.
It was just something thatresonated with me.
(42:49):
It was a story that made sensethat this is a spirit.
God was like well, now you getto choose.
I gave you this framework thatI know hit.
Laura (42:58):
I know is vibing with you .
Mondo (43:01):
Are you going to ignore it or are you going to continue
to embrace it?
I chose to give up whiskey andgive up hard liquor.
This is the second part where Iget to stillness, and I'll lob
it back to Laura.
Because I gave up whiskey, godwas like oh, thank you for doing
(43:22):
that.
The thing that you were blindedto is you weren't actually
seeking whiskey, you are seekingthe wise key.
Right Like whiskey.
You seeing it over and over andover was just something that
every time you look, you wouldsee wise and you would see key.
(43:43):
Now that you don't have whiskeyin you anymore, I am going to
put you on this track to haveyour wise key.
You are going to start seeingthings in the world in a way
that others aren't able to seeit because you're not putting
this dark spirit into your body.
So I'm going to clear yoursight a little bit more To the
(44:11):
stillness piece.
God was like you love Superman.
Superman is the man of steel,can leap buildings and do all
these things or whatever.
And God was like not the man ofsteel, as in metal, the man of
(44:34):
steel, as in be still.
Do you have the discipline, thecourage to be still STILL.
And so I just want to like saythese, like moments of just
interactions with God that I had.
That really resonated with me.
It just hit.
I was just like, oh, that camefrom God, because I'd never
thought of those words that way.
If you in your life know thatthis thing keeps showing up for
(44:59):
you and you're like, why is thishere, why is this happening?
Be still, stop drinking for 30days, and I believe that God
will reveal what he is actuallytrying to tell you.
That thing is just there to bea trigger for you to pause, be
still and pivot to a differentdirection.
Laura (45:22):
Oh wow.
So that was just part of mystarting and I'm kind of what
I'm processing this.
We're not saying that.
That is exactly what you needto do, because here I am, going
on my journey.
I still drink whiskey time totime I mean not often, but every
(45:46):
once in a while.
My practices are different thanMondo's.
Your practices will bedifferent than ours.
The key is awareness, awareness.
Awareness awareness when youcan become conscious of things
(46:08):
that are unconscious.
So think about this when youwake up in the morning, what's
the first thing you do?
Are you checking your email?
Are you going to social mediaLike are you getting pulled into
what I call other programs, yesor are you being intentional
(46:30):
about what you want your day tolook and feel like?
This is the invitation.
Do you get pulled into the quote, unquote world and what they
say is important and they aretelling you and what they say is
important and they are tellingyou?
Or are you going to summon yourenergy and place it on yourself
(46:53):
and your direct relationshipwith God and say God, what do we
want to create today, what dowe want this day to feel like?
And that's what I do in themorning Now I just I go through
like this movie in my mind.
It's like I see the differentscenes from the day of me
interacting with people.
I know I'm going to see um andjust smiles and joy and like, oh
(47:18):
, so we get to create it throughour imagination and then it
like I know every day I'm likewow, that that scene in my mind
that actually happened.
Mondo (47:32):
That's awesome.
That is so awesome.
And this this is why I lovedoing this podcast with Laura
because of the contrast, becauseof how our approaches have been
different.
We chose to embrace differentthings.
God chose to talk to usdifferently and between the two
(47:53):
of us there's a lot of recipes.
Right, pick one.
And when she was talking aboutvisualizing her day and all the
things that she was going toexperience, I was like that's
such an awesome recipe and it'snot mine and I'm just like how
(48:15):
dope is that and how is thatplaying out in the world over
and over and over, when you havea recipe for yourself but you
are trying to project your wayon everybody else?
Laura (48:29):
This is exactly what we're talking about.
How do we seek to understandsomeone else?
Mondo (48:37):
Yes.
Laura (48:37):
Like again your ways.
If I were to adopt the way ofyour lifestyle, I'm like.
That just doesn't speak to meat all.
Mondo (48:45):
Yeah.
Laura (48:46):
But the invitation is how do I almost have these, um,
almost like like a childlikecuriosity, like, oh, I'd like to
be Mando, to walk through lifea day in the life, and how he
thinks and how he experiencesthings?
(49:06):
And that is the coolest partabout this thing called life is
because now, like wow, that's sodifferent from my experience,
but I can see how much joy itbrings you and if all,
ultimately, we can all live inthat world where we can
appreciate each other's choices.
Mondo (49:30):
I mean, yeah, it's a win to me.
It's a win, one of the thingsthat you said that made me think
of this analogy that I haveused in like a presentation one
time.
But let me try to paint thepicture to piggyback what Laura
just said.
I imagine going into a museumwith a bunch of paintings, right
(49:52):
, and you have this guidewalking you through the museum
and you see this piece of artand the art has a name, but
they're just like, oh, that's aPicasso.
And you go to the next thingand the art has a name, but
they're just like, oh, that's aPicasso.
And you go to the next thingand the art has a name and
(50:14):
they're like, well, that's aMichelangelo, right.
And then you just keep goingthrough this museum and then you
get to a point in the museumwhere they move back a curtain.
And a human is standing thereand they say that's laura king,
that's a god.
Not that laura is a god, butlaura is the work of art of the
(50:40):
creator, right my expression mycorrectness all the way of my
being everything about you apainting?
yep, is an expression of god'sart, right, and so it's like,
yeah, like every stroke of laurais so amazing and so unique and
(51:02):
is an expression of God'screativity.
My expression of God'screativity is different, and we
both can look at ourselves inthe mirror and at each other and
be like you're a beautiful art,right.
And if we just start looking atothers that same way and being
like that is God's expression ofart on a different canvas and a
(51:24):
different canvas, and adifferent canvas to Laura's
point, let me go find out how Iappreciate that canvas, right?
Oh man, that person looks sodifferent.
Ah, that doesn't really alignwith anything that I have
experienced before.
I then think, when we look atBasquiat as an artist so
(51:49):
abstract, we're like that.
That image is fire, we don'teven know why it's dope, but
we're just like that is a greatexpression of art.
So I do my best to look atother humans when they don't
look like me or they're sodifferent or removed from who I
am, and I'm just like that'sGod's version of Basquiat in
(52:12):
human form.
Right, that is his expression.
Like it's not supposed to fitin.
However, it is still beautiful,and so that mindset of
unconditional love, of showingup and just wanting to love on
everything around you, becauseyou recognize that everything
comes from the spirit of God,from the creativity of God.
(52:33):
When you start to seek to seethe world that way, fulfillment
is within reach, because thennothing around you is against
you.
Everything is just art for youto experience.
Laura (52:49):
It's all for you.
Mondo (52:50):
All of it.
Laura (52:51):
All of it.
Mondo (52:53):
All of it, and so that's a lot of words.
I feel like Laura and I threwout today.
Laura (53:03):
I am like still processing Holy cow.
That was a lot Mondo.
Mondo (53:09):
So for the listeners, like Laura and I, we started
this podcast.
We were like you know what, weshould find a way to go a little
bit deeper today, Like let'sjust really try to tune into the
spirit of God and figure outwhat we're supposed to say today
.
Laura (53:23):
And I feel like we did a good job Through the podcast.
Send us a text, let us know.
You know, we'd love, we'd loveyour ratings and reviews.
Seriously, like if we can helpmore people.
That's our intention here.
Like how can we, how can we bea trusted voice to more people?
Mondo (53:40):
How can we?
Please ask the questions.
Please send in suggestions.
We we want to keep going.
Yes, we Please ask thequestions.
Please send in suggestions.
We want to keep going.
Yes, we do.
And, as Laura said earlier, ifsomebody is sitting around like,
yeah, we've got a studio withcameras, we'll pull up.
Alright from Mondo and Laura,we're out of here.
(54:00):
Peace, peace.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.