May 5, 2025 • 44 mins
The spiritual battle between darkness and light affects us all, but how do we navigate it without being overwhelmed? Laura vulnerably shares her experience as a "deep feeler," describing how she absorbs others' pain while maintaining her own protective shield. This leads to a profound discussion about consciousness as awareness – recognizing ourselves as eternal beings living temporarily in physical bodies.
The conversation takes an unexpected turn when examining the balance between heart and mind. Using the film "Lucy" as a metaphor, Mondo suggests that as AI handles more intellectual tasks, perhaps humanity's next evolution involves leading more from the heart than the head. This shift requires courage but offers a more authentic and fulfilling existence.
One of the most touching moments comes when Laura describes watching a sunset with her five-year-old, fully present and overwhelmed with emotion as she realized how many similar moments she'd missed while prioritizing work. This revelation sparked a commitment to "burn down" old patterns and choose differently moving forward.
Whether you're feeling spiritually adrift or simply questioning if you're climbing the right ladder in life, this episode offers practical wisdom for reconnecting with your divine purpose. The hosts suggest starting with a simple exercise: describe your dream day in writing, then identify small elements you can incorporate immediately.
Throughout the conversation, Mondo and Laura weave together spiritual insights with practical applications, creating a roadmap for anyone seeking greater fulfillment. Their vision of "heavenly humans" coming together – creative souls, teachers, chefs, and others all aligned in their divine purpose – offers hope that individual transformation can ultimately create collective change.
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Mondo (00:00):
Welcome to the Heavenly Human Podcast, where we help you
pause and pivot to a morefulfilling life.
My name is Mondo and I amjoined with Laura King, and we
got cameras and lights goingthis time.
Laura (00:15):
Oh, we're fancy now yeah we are.
We put it out to the universe.
Mondo (00:19):
We did, we did, we put it out, we did we put it out and,
if I remember correctly, yousaid it on a podcast and was it
an hour or two later?
Laura (00:38):
yes, our dear friend jason said uh, I got some space.
Mondo (00:39):
And stuff and lights and we could just make it happen,
and so the power of just puttingthings out there.
Laura (00:45):
Yeah, ask.
Mondo (00:46):
Ask and you shall receive it's a real thing, you shall
find.
Okay, Look, we're a wholesymphony out here you know, how
was your day today Do?
Laura (00:59):
you want me to be honest.
Mondo (01:00):
I want you to be honest.
I mean, just go there.
Laura (01:04):
I'm feeling, to be honest , I want you to be honest.
I mean, just go there.
I'm feeling all the feels, I'mrealizing how much I am taking
in.
Oh my gosh, it's just the wavescome over me.
Mondo, I just like I, I feel itso deeply that this is a it's a
spiritual warfare between thedarkness and the light, and I
(01:26):
have so many humans that arereaching out to me and I'm so
happy that they do, but I canget taken down and forget how
powerful we are and how we getto choose intentionally to bring
the light.
But I'm telling you, I'm a deepfeeler and people are going
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through it.
People are going through it.
Mondo (01:56):
People are going through it and I just feel like that's a
real thing in just the world ingeneral.
Right, Like, as a society,things are just happening.
What would you say to just jumpright in is something that has
kept you balanced or has allowedyou to maybe sidestep it, avoid
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it, or have a strong enoughshield so you're not being
smacked with that negativeenergy every day.
I don't know if that questionis the right question, but I
just know I open up social mediaor if I open up the news, it's
just a lot of stuff, right?
A lot of people shouldering alot of stuff.
And so has Laura beenshouldering this stuff every day
(02:46):
and she just learned how tocarry it?
Or has Laura been like Neo inthe matrix and like just dodging
it?
or whatever right Like how are Iguess?
How do you handle that energycoming your way?
Laura (03:01):
I literally envision I've got this like protective shield
around me.
Mondo (03:06):
Okay, I mean sometimes I forget Like sometimes I forget.
So, like people call you and isit a?
Or reach out or you cross paths, is it a?
Does it feel like a dump?
Does it feel like they'reasking for help?
Do you just naturally just feelwhat they feel like, what's
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happening?
Laura (03:29):
Help us understand just the Laura experience to get
people who resonate with yourstory.
And there's this gentleman likeI worked with well over a
decade ago and we just recentlyreconnected and it was like an
(03:52):
SOS text.
This morning, like Laura, I'mbeing just sucked up by the
darkness and I can't stop allthese negative thoughts and I
just resonate so deeply withthat because that was me.
Mondo (04:07):
Yeah.
Laura (04:08):
That was me two years ago , and so I just I like
viscerally feel his pain BecauseI think, in a way, like we're
all connected, and so of courseI'm going to say, yep, let's
talk, yep, I'm here for you,let's pray together.
Mondo (04:27):
Yeah, yeah.
I think the thing that reallystuck out to me was the word
thoughts, and so before wehopped into this podcast, I know
we went back and forth likewhat is the key word, and we
felt like consciousness was thekey word.
Is consciousness and thoughtsequivalent to you or is it
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different?
Laura (04:51):
I think consciousness, and I actually think of the word
awareness, like when you'reaware that you are an eternal
being living in this physicalbody and it's almost remembering
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the truth of who you are at alltimes.
Mondo (05:15):
Okay.
Laura (05:17):
That, to me, gives me comfort in knowing that, like
I'm limitless, I'm unbreakable.
Mondo (05:28):
Yeah.
Laura (05:29):
There's actually nothing here that's going to hurt me.
Mondo (05:32):
Yeah.
Laura (05:34):
And I just have been able to hear so many stories of
people who have shared with melike they've literally died and
they've gone to the other sideand they're like Laura, there's
nothing to fear.
There's absolutely nothing tofear.
Mondo (05:53):
So, as part of our responsibility to ourselves, to
come to a point in our journeywhere we truly believe that all
the way is it actually likefacing enough fears?
To know that they're illusionsfair, yeah, I mean like when I
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think about the story of jesus,it's I faced death and conquered
it right like I would.
Resurrection was real, so likethere's no reason to be afraid
of death.
If you're a believer in Christand Christ beat death, then
where is the fear?
Laura (06:31):
Right and so.
Mondo (06:32):
I think there is some Some reality to anchor on or
some beliefs to anchor on, ifyou actually want to take that
next step right.
So we talk about fulfillmentand I believe that part of that
fulfillment martial arts rightlike happens in the mind, right?
And rather you say thoughts andconsciousness are the same or
(06:56):
they're different.
Right, it is.
Are you fulfilled enough thatyou are not in battle with your
mind and you're more in syncwith the thoughts that are going
through your mind, even ifthey're negative thoughts, like?
Are you dancing with them,right?
Or are you just like, like Ihave to purge them or I'm scared
of them, or I won't do thesethings because I have these
thoughts?
I feel like part of thisenhanced conscious experience is
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really building a more healthy,intimate relationship with the
words that come in and go out.
And so I'm curious for you wasthere a season where you really
had to get a lot of reps in withthe words that were coming in,
that didn't, that shouldn't havebeen there, or that like you
had to wrestle with?
(07:44):
Like, was there a season inyour life where that was true?
Laura (07:47):
Absolutely, absolutely, and it's.
I mean that's those are thetimes that I've been the most
depressed or anxious, becauseI'm, I'm living in my head and
it's when you, when you dropfrom your head to your heart,
that you're able to see.
Oh my gosh, here's a thought,and, like you know, we've talked
(08:07):
about the fly swatter, rightLike, that's not from me, that's
not my, I don't think that'sjust a thought.
But when I have a higher levelof awareness and I know myself
as this divine, eternal being,then I have power over those
thoughts and I can choose whichones I want to believe in.
Mondo (08:26):
Yeah, do you believe that the and I don't want to say
thoughts that come to your heart, from your heart, but the
feeling or energy or essencethat comes from your heart is in
conflict with your mind, or wasthere a season where they were
in conflict?
Laura (08:42):
Oh yeah, hello, the human experience.
Mondo (08:49):
The reason why I framed that up is just for somebody
that might be struggling withthat, because, like that is the
majority, I believe, of thatinner work is finding the
balance between your heart andyour mind.
So, like, last night I waswatching Lucy, a Scarlett
Johansson movie.
I don't know if you've seen it,but essentially it's one of the
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greatest movies, it's one of myfavorite movies.
So Scarlett Johanssonessentially like, gets pumped
with all these drugs, and thedrugs like enhance her awareness
, and so the theme is we onlyuse 10% of our brain and she was
pumped with so many drugs thatit unlocks certain parts of her
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brain, and so the movie kind ofgoes through a series of.
This is what it would be likeif you use 20%, 30%, 50%, and it
really does a great artisticexpression of like showing a
human who completely like, blowsit out of the water and just
hits that next level.
But what's interesting to me,if you really like pay attention
(09:56):
to the details of that movie,is as she goes from 10 to 20 to
50 to 70, she loses herrelationship with her heart, and
so it's a great example of it'snot about seeking all the
knowledge and knowing everythingand being connected to like
only the intellectual side ofyourself, because the end of the
(10:19):
movie is she essentially turnedherself into like a cosmic
flash drive right and gave it toMorgan Freeman Like this is
everything in the universe, thisis all the knowledge.
And I guess I'm telling thestory is because the number one
thing that I took away is shelost her humanness.
She gained all the knowledgeand lost her connection to like
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want to have a intimaterelationship with humans, and so
, as we continue to like pushfor a smarter society we got AI
doing all the intellectual workI feel like we are entering a
season where finding balancewith our heart, or leading with
our heart, may be the next likeevolution of humans, to like
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start there or, like you said,drop from your head to your
heart, and I feel like a lot ofus are being called to do that,
to lead in that way, and I justwant to like applaud you because
I feel like every day, you'rejust like yeah, mind all, I'm
finding that balance or I'mliving in that balance.
I'm doing my best to do thesame too, but I just feel like
that is next up.
There's going to be certainhumans who just have that.
Laura (11:30):
Well, I had a moment yesterday.
I'm going to try not to crybecause I can't tell you how
many years that I spent with mylaptop, thinking I had to do the
next thing, and the next thing,and the next thing, and I
missed out.
I missed out on my kids and thespecial moments.
And last night we were at thepark and the sun was setting and
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I was holding my five-year-old.
I was like nothing like this.
Is it Like this moment?
This, is it Like this moment?
How many more moments of likethis can I experience?
Oh, mom, look at all thedifferent colors.
And then, like this flock ofbirds came and just like
(12:15):
everything was perfect, it wasperfect, and I just like weeped
Because I had to forgive oldLaura for missing out on that.
Mondo (12:28):
Yeah.
Laura (12:29):
But it's like okay, now that I know better, I'm going to
do better, so I'm going to shutthat laptop down.
All those emails can wait,these strangers that want my
time.
I'm like what's more important?
Getting back to strangers thatwant my time, or my kids who are
right in front of me, and howmany years I chose all these
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people wanting my time and theyall deserved a response and I'm
just burning that down yeah justburning it down choosing that.
Mondo (13:01):
So so what Laura just said I feel like is so key
because me loving media, if youwatch amazing movies, I feel
like there's typically a parentin amazing movies where they
have to make that choice or not,right, like I always go back to
a hook or Peter Pan or RobinWilliams and it's like the movie
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is all about him losing his kidself and not paying attention
to his kids and having to goback to is it never, never land?
Is it never, never land?
Can't remember, but like hejust has to find himself, find
his kid version of himself andrecognize.
Like all these things that I'vebeen doing at work is not
bringing me joy, it's irrelevant.
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And so again, if anybody want,go watch 94 Hook.
Laura (13:49):
If you want to cry, yes, oh my gosh, it's just such a
great movie and such a greatrepresentation of what you're
saying.
Mondo (13:57):
Because when that clarity hits, when you believe it, it's
like in the movie, like he canfly again or he can see again.
Laura (14:07):
But it truly is.
I am seeing colors differently,I experience this amazing
oneness with all around me, andI'm having these moments of oh,
this is what I came here for toexperience this beauty in this
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moment, wow, and I allowedmyself to just play.
Just play.
Oh mom, you want to do likefloor is lava?
Sure, let's do floor is lava.
Mondo (14:41):
Yeah, what you know how people like project and plan out
a a story or see the dominoesfall.
The contrast to that is, if youdon't do that, if you don't
spend time with your kids, yourkids are going to grow up and
they are going to feel like theyare inadequate or felt like
they missed out because theydidn't receive that love, and so
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then they then bring that same,maybe energy, to their kids,
and then the cycle repeats.
It repeats, and so choosing tohave faith and say I'm going to
be the best mom or the best dadfirst Right, I know I still have
these other responsibilities,but to the best of my ability
I'm going to be the best parent,and then everything else is
(15:25):
secondary is a huge choice tomake, but I think it completely
like changes the fabric of yourreality.
Laura (15:32):
But it's so interesting too to see like we're all just
kind of finding our way.
I like I look at my husband.
He's so great at being in thepresent moment Unbelievable and
somehow I knew that when Ipicked him, because he is just
always in the present moment andI didn't appreciate that until
(15:54):
this year.
It took me that long to see.
I used to get so upset why canyou just sit on the couch when
there's all of these otherthings to do around the house?
I would be like, excuse me,lazy butt, come on and now, oh,
there's something reallybeautiful about his ability just
(16:17):
to tune it all out and just behere now, even though that is
he's just watching sports orhe's watching something with the
kids.
Like just we're all given thesedifferent gifts and like how
can we really learn from eachother?
Mondo (16:34):
so would you say that, because relationships matter.
Were you and brian on oppositeends of the spectrum and did you
talk about it back then?
Nope, okay, it just.
You just just was.
Yeah.
Laura (16:49):
And he has noticed such a difference in me and he's like
you're fun to hang out with.
Not that I wasn't, but I wasvery high strung Like things
needed to be the way that Lauraneeded them to be, like a little
more controlling, and I'm justso much more go with the flow
(17:11):
and accepting of what is versusfighting against what is.
I think so many times I didn'taccept that what is and like
there's just a beauty aboutwhatever's coming in.
Just accept it.
Accept it and there's peace inthat, versus fighting against it
(17:33):
.
Mondo (17:34):
Yeah, I think we talked about this before and you
brought it up the other day howwe can go into a big meeting or
an environment where we're justlike, we prep for it.
We did a lot of stuff and thensomebody who may have been
perceived as a key stakeholderdecided to be late or to not
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show up Right, and a lot of thetimes, our immediate response
would be like defensive and likehow could you do that?
Why are you not here?
And all these other things.
And I believe we made thispivot to choose to believe it is
what it is.
Everybody that's supposed to behere is here, right, and so I
just wanted to say that out loud, because that's a prime example
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of accept what is choose tobelieve that whatever is
happening, whoever is on yourteam, whoever's in your house,
whoever you see in the morningwhen you wake up, is exactly who
is supposed to be there.
There is some gift there foryou.
You two are supposed to helpeach other grow or learn from
each other, or something like.
Whatever is right now is 100%right for you and everyone
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around you, and choosing that isthe choice.
Laura (18:51):
You crossed my mind.
I sent you that voice memo theother day because we were having
a meeting and this one womancouldn't attend and again, old
Laura would have been pissedlike so pissed.
And then I was like no, acceptit.
Accept it Like the people thatare in the room are the people
that need to be in the room.
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And it is what it is Pureacceptance.
Mondo (19:17):
Pure acceptance.
It's so funny because thesimplicity of it, like you know,
when you're growing up and likea I don't want to call somebody
old, so I'll say a season likea seasoned human would say
something that's like so simple,but it's like some old wisdom
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that they got from, like theirgreat grandparents or something,
and for some reason you justdon't get it until you're like
40.
I feel like the things that wesay on this podcast is like that
, because we're just like,except what is like there's
nothing mind blowing about that.
It is actually that simple butfor some reason, like we
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conflate it and make it waydeeper than that.
For some reason, like we needto understand.
Actually, let me go there.
I was watching the Chosen.
I watch the Chosen so much.
I was watching the Chosen andJesus was essentially trying to
get his disciples to follow hisguidance without understanding.
Essentially saying, right now,given the information you have,
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you cannot understand it.
You have to make this choice byfaith, because that is the
muscle that I need you to workout.
Up until this point this is menow kind of elaborating on
Jesus's point in the show Upuntil this point, every choice
you made was qualified throughlogic made sense to you.
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I need you to make choices thatdon't make sense and you're
following your heart, right.
And so how many of us arecalled in a season to follow our
heart when we're sitting nextto somebody that is driven by
logic?
And so the reason why, like,I'm really emphasizing this
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right now, is because I call, orI challenge, the logical mind
and the heart mind to believethat in this season, they're
both right, like the logicalmind that's worrying about
everything being in the rightplace and money is being brought
in and all that stuff like thatis 100 percent necessary.
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Thank you for doing that work.
And this person that has towander in the wilderness
spiritually, like they have todo that work and lean on the
person that is stable, andbecause that Batman and Robin
happens on the other side, whenthe blessings come from that
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spiritual journey, then thatperson who was the stability,
it's their turn.
Or they get to sit back and belike, oh, I can receive these
fruits because you went and didsomething that made no sense to
me, but I chose to have faith.
What do you say to the peoplewho say I don't have anyone?
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That's good.
I believe that there is astretch.
Right For my track stars, ifyou're running that 400,
eventually you get to that finalstretch, that final 100.
And it is, it is will, right.
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It's just like your will versusthe will of other people on
that track.
And I feel like some people, ofall people, eventually in their
spiritual journey feels likethere is nobody else that gets
it or gets them, even ifsomebody is sitting right next
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to them.
So, to answer your question,some people are like I have
nobody and there may be sometruth to that.
Like they're looking around,they're like I don't have
anybody to turn or to lean on.
Okay, then the flex might bethe church is right across the
street.
I need you to walk in there, Ineed you to take the next step
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to go find that community thathas always been there, but
you've been too stubborn to doit Right.
There's always somebody there,but you've been too stubborn to
do it right, there's alwayssomebody.
However, there's also adifferent person who might be
surrounded by people and I'msaying this because I found
myself in this seat many timesover who's surrounded by loving
people but still feel isolatedbecause nobody else quite
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understands.
So it still feels like there'sthis island there understands,
so it still feels like there'sthis island there, and so I have
to then make the choice to belike God.
It's just me and you which Isent you the audio message the
other day.
I was just like I just talked toGod.
We were just sitting and I wasjust like all right, god, I
literally this is what I said.
I was like I was like God, Ifeel like I'm called to talk to
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you because I don't out loud asmuch as I probably should.
And I was, like I always say, Ifelt like I've been on heaven,
on Earth's porch, right Like toconvince myself that everything
is working out the way that it'ssupposed to work out.
Like I've made these words workfor me.
But I was like, just in case.
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Like I've made these words workfor me, but I was like, just in
case I'm confused or I'm misled, please align me so I am
following your will.
And then, in Jesus name, amen,being in a position where I felt
like I was in isolation or Ifelt like there was nobody else
(24:47):
that I could actually talk tothat could give me the right
words back that I needed, I hadto use my imagination or my
belief or my faith, to just talkto the spirit of the universe
the creator to give me somepeace or give me some guidance
or give me some words, and sothat's a long way of saying if
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you are alone and you feel likeyou don't have anybody, it is to
flex and stretch you so you gotalk to God independently.
Over and over and over, that waslong Amen, amen.
Laura (25:23):
I also have noticed a trend in many people I've spoken
with recently and I talk to alot of people.
And it's so great to hear a lotof individuals who have had
these jobs where they get towork from home and they're
remote, coming out and they'relike I want to meet people, I
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want to get out of my house, Iwant to go be with people in
real life.
Yeah, and that is somethingthat, oh my gosh, think about
over time what that does to thehuman spirit when you really
aren't in a community or notphysically seeing other beings.
Mondo (26:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's interesting because I havethis.
I'm definitely an omnivert.
Like I can go be extrovert andstand on stage and speak to
people for 60 minutes, 90 minutemax.
After that don't call me to thenext event.
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I gotta go recharge.
But on the flip side, I feellike yo, you're marathon when it
comes to people, like theybring you energy yeah and like
you can keep going and so I feellike I just like, I'm like like
a hop.
Laura (26:45):
It's just like fill up, fill up, fill up, fill up.
I think at a networking event Iliterally I'm like, oh my gosh,
I'm just like hopping.
And at one point I was like Iwas like dancing.
I'm like, am I dancing at anetworking event?
What's happening right now?
But I was so joyful and I justfelt like that is exactly my
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role to play.
And later that day two peopletext me and they're like I just
want you to know that you hadsuch an amazing effect on me and
just, oh yeah, just be you.
Be, weird, quirky, authentic youand you have no idea how that's
going to impact another human.
Mondo (27:23):
Man, that's so contrastingly good to hear.
Right, I know we always justtalk about the mandalora
different and for some reason wejust touch in the middle.
But it's like if I go to anetworking event I am moving as
slow as a turtle, like you'rehopping around and I'm just like
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I'm staying here and eventuallyI'm going to catch eyes with
the one person I'm supposed totalk to for the next 15 minutes,
and then it just happens, orsomebody just pulls up, and so
it's yeah, it's funny how it'sweird, like it's it's volume
almost yeah it's.
Laura (28:01):
It almost feels like an adrenaline rush.
Mondo (28:05):
I want, man.
If I go to a networking event,I just want to have this one
really deep conversation, whileeverybody else is just talking
about a whole bunch of stuff.
I want somebody to be like man,what are they talking about?
That's where I get my joy from.
Not that it's right or wrong,I'm just highlighting what fills
my cup and how.
(28:26):
It's just different.
Mm, hmm, mm, hmm.
Moving forward, though, I thinkwe need to highlight something
that is extremely important,being that we are leaning into
it more on this podcast, whichis your book.
Laura (28:44):
Oh, this podcast which is your book.
Mondo (28:47):
So can you just highlight for a minute why did Laura King
choose to write a book?
Why is that even a thing thathas manifested into reality?
Laura (29:09):
It doesn't make logical sense.
It was not even my choice.
It felt choiceless.
It felt choiceless because I'vealways felt like I have a call
in my life to share, because I'min the trenches, going through
these really hard times, and Notthat I've figured everything
out, but, holy cow, I haveunlocked this new way of
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operating in the world and whenyou get that, you want to share,
you genuinely want to share.
But initially the book was away for me to just start
processing what I was goingthrough.
Okay, yeah it was a way ofalmost accessing my higher self,
(29:55):
and I'm telling you that it'sone of those things where it's
the discipline, and so manytimes I would get these
downloads of like okay, laura,you actually wrote this already.
Go back and read it and I wouldsit with my own words and I'm
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like thank you, god.
So I literally feel like it'schanneled from God.
These are not even my words andthey were my lessons to learn,
some of which I'm still in theprocess of learning, and yet
it's almost given myself aroadmap of like oh, all the
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answers are actually within me.
For so many years, I thought Ihad to go out there to find it.
It's all out there andrealizing it's all in here, and
then to now know like oh yeah, Ithink I got a chapter on that.
Mondo (31:00):
Hey, that's funny.
I think I got a chapter on that.
Laura (31:04):
But it's honestly, it's the repetition of it.
It's repetition.
I think right now we are beingbombarded with so much
information when the best thingI've done is things that I
really want to learn, reallywant to embody.
I read the same couple pagesover and over, and over and over
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and over, because repetition isthe mother of all skill, mother
of all skill.
The repetition of it somehowgets into just the way, like the
integration of it.
It's one thing to know it, it'sanother thing to actually live
it.
Mondo (31:46):
Mm.
Yeah, it reminded me of kind ofthat repetition piece.
I remember this probably likefive years ago at this point,
but Eric Thomas still, I think,the number one motivational
speaker in the world.
He did an album, maybe eight toten tracks.
That's like some of hisspeeches or motivational moments
(32:11):
, and one of them something thatI never forgot he was like I'd
rather you read a thousand pagesWell, no one page a thousand
times than a thousand pages once.
To your point like getting thatrepetition and believing those
words all in, so like it becomesthis unbreakable shield force
(32:35):
thing that you just you can'tget around it because you've
integrated it so much into yourbeingness that it just is.
So, yeah, that repetition pieceis key.
I love that piece is key.
Laura (32:49):
I love that Part of it too is like when I really
thought about it.
I've had such an intimateinside view of what's going on
in the world, at least with alot of professionals in the work
that I do as a recruiter,because I have these people who
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are unhappy in their job or forwhatever reason they're open to
a new opportunity, talking to meand they share stuff about
their job.
But inevitably we learn abouteach other's lives and I watch
them and I see them light upwhen they talk about their
passions, their interests, whatbrings them alive, and then I
(33:32):
see them talk themselves out ofthat.
Well, that's just not possible.
Hello, I did it.
How many years?
Talk myself out of it?
That's just not possible.
I've got four kids.
My husband left his job to goopen a music school Money's
tight.
All this kids.
(33:52):
My husband left his job to goopen a music school Money's
tight, all this.
And I thought what are we doing?
What are we showing our kids?
Yep, it's possible for otherpeople, but not me, not us Like
following your dreams.
Mondo (34:07):
It's good for those people, but not me.
Okay, so you always talk aboutold Laura versus new Laura.
Is there a?
It's a two part question.
Is there a or do you envision?
Is there a newer Laura?
Is there a newest Laura?
And the reason why I say thatis because there was a season in
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your life where you didn'tbelieve that you could follow
your dream.
Then you changed your mind andthen you followed it, and now
you're at a different checkpoint.
So is there even a?
Laura (34:41):
newer dream.
Oh, it's whatever.
I mean.
God's highest will on, you know, call on my life and I.
You know I get clues and so Ihave.
You know I've told you abouthow I love experiences.
(35:03):
So wouldn't it be so cool tohave a conference one day and
just the music and the movementand the people coming alive.
And you know I love personaldevelopment, development.
So there's something with howcan I bring more personal
development to the masses, butultimately it's like it's a
full-on faith walk yeah, yeah, I.
Mondo (35:21):
I receive that all all the way, and the reason why I
receive it all the way isbecause I feel like we god gives
us the freedom to go create ourown dream, go do a thing
without him I am a prime exampleof that and then to reset or to
(35:42):
then go follow his will.
For some it's just a slightpivot because it's parallel to
what they've been doing.
To others it's a vastlydifferent journey.
It's just like I think one of JCole's favorite, or one of my
favorite quotes from J Cole isbro, you went a long way, but
(36:05):
you went the wrong way, and solike there's been some times
where I'm like man, I've climbedthis ladder.
If I keep climbing, I feel likeit's up against the wrong wall,
so like I got to do asomersault off of it.
Um, but I say that because, forthe humans who who have always
(36:30):
been driven and have alwaysbelieved in the unimaginable
thing I'm saying thissubjectively that it's likely
the thing that we anchor on, thesuccess, the money, the fame,
the fortune, like those thingsseem to be the thing that we are
(36:57):
called to do.
Yes, and God's like yo, theperson who has all that money
it's hard for them to get intoheaven.
It's like what is it like?
A, an elephant going throughthe pin of a needle or something
like some analogy, becausesurrendering all the things that
(37:18):
you thought for the mostfulfilling thing is actually
going to be extremely hard.
And so I'm just saying thesewords because there's some
somebody, young, hungry, on theway of like I'm going to go
conquer the world and do allthese things and become the next
Bill Gates, elon Musk, whateverlike do and cool, like money is
going to be, there is going tohit.
(37:38):
But I'm asking you to pause andbe like all right, god, is this
what you want me to do?
Because if it's not, I might goand do all this stuff and then
be too scared to let it go.
And so I say that because I gotto a point where I had just got
far enough that I wasn't tooafraid to let it go.
(38:00):
But if I would have had a couplemillion, a bank, or 20 million
a bank or a hundred million abank, would I have made the
choice that I made?
I don't know.
And so, man, wherever you're atright now, to Laura's point
like, eventually, the final stepis following God's will.
So, like, ask God, am I doingthe thing you want me to do
(38:21):
right now?
And if it's not a resoundingyes, then like, like, do some
deep reflection and figure outwhat that next step is, because
you want to hear it now asopposed to later.
Laura (38:35):
Well, insert almost all of my coaching clients.
I mean it's so fun, so fun tosee people who have had these
like the stirrings or therustlings or like something
feels off and I'm able to sitdown with them and we have just
a conversation and I see exactlywhere they light up.
(38:59):
And I'm thinking of this onewoman shout out to Tia, if
you're listening.
She loves home organization,all organization, and she was
laid off from her marketing role.
She has an MBA.
She's just unbelievable andeverything that she's learned up
(39:22):
till now she's applying now inher home organizational business
and it brings her so much joybusiness and it brings her so
much joy.
And she was literally in myhouse last week and it was just
so magical to see her operate inher element and then to share
(39:43):
all these ideas she has abouthow she could market it and all
these other different productideas.
And she's got some marketingcontracts on the side.
So she's building thisportfolio career and it's just
so lit up.
It's so fun to be around peoplethat are joyous.
Mondo (40:00):
Yeah.
Laura (40:01):
And this is happening with so many other people who
are starting what they may calla side hustle, but it's the
intention of well, one day day,I'd love for this to be my main
hustle.
Mondo (40:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that.
I, yes, and I feel like thelike, the human that that person
turns into, is like a differenthuman.
Yeah, I think that's why wecalled this podcast heavenly
human, cause there's justsomething about making these
(40:32):
choices and like evolving as acharacter.
The business of things that wecreate and do is one thing, but
who we become it's who we become.
Laura (40:42):
Yeah, Because we were at an Easter egg hunt another
mutual friend over the weekendand I got to meet Tia's husband,
who thanked me, and I'm like ifI played a small part in this
transformation in this household, I'm like Ed, it's all worth it
(41:02):
.
It took me stepping outside mycomfort zone to say, oh, I think
I can coach people, To theninvite a Tia into a coaching
relationship for her to thenmake these changes and like
think about that entire rippleeffect.
Mondo (41:21):
Okay, well, as we, as we wrap this up, what would you,
what would be your call toaction to a budding Tia, to
another Tia that's out there onthe fence, or kind of stewing in
it, a little bit Like whatwould you call them to do today
or tomorrow?
Laura (41:42):
I would call them to pen and paper, Like, just what does
a dream day look like for you?
Like what does a perfect daylook like?
And then begin to say, hmm,what small piece of that dream
day can I start doing today?
(42:04):
Small, small steps.
Baby steps, baby steps, gerbersteps, small, small steps, baby
steps, baby steps, gerber steps,cause what you're, what that
person's going to find out, isthat when they're operating in
their full expression, who Godcreated them to be, they're
going to get the feedback fromall people around them to say
(42:24):
yeah.
Mondo (42:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
The the last thing that I'llclose with that I think is
starting to mature a little bitmore, is those humans who are in
their right seat, their divineseat, and how I do think we're
coming together other randomlyand I think there is a kind of
(42:53):
like new I don't want to sayrevolution, evolution like
there's just something else kindof nurturing in humanity to
contrast the negativity that hasbeen bubbling up for the last
decade.
And if you believe that you areone of those people or want to
(43:15):
be one of those people, like,continue to tune into this
podcast or send this podcast toanother person, because
hopefully we start to be atrusted voice to those humans.
And eventually, thoseserendipitous moments where
other heavenly humans stumbleupon others and it's like, oh
man, like oh you too, you too,you too, and like these little
(43:39):
pockets in different communities, like these good humans that
just want to do good, cometogether.
Somebody that is super creative, somebody that is sitting on
$100 million, somebody that's achef, somebody that's a chef and
somebody that's a teacher,right, like are just all in
relationship with each other andsomehow, you know, the Avengers
(44:01):
assembled.
Laura (44:03):
And to that I'll end with this, a text message I got
yesterday.
If we're not here to lift eachother up and give each other
some love, I'm not sure whatwe're here for.
Mondo (44:18):
Well, I would say, drop the mic, but you just bought
that mic, so don't drop it.
Well to the listeners, Lauraand I are out of here.
Peace.
Welcome to the Heavenly Human Podcast, where we help you
pause and pivot to a morefulfilling life.
My name is Mondo and I amjoined with Laura King, and we
got cameras and lights goingthis time.
Laura (00:15):
Oh, we're fancy now yeah we are.
We put it out to the universe.
Mondo (00:19):
We did, we did, we put it out, we did we put it out and,
if I remember correctly, yousaid it on a podcast and was it
an hour or two later?
Laura (00:38):
yes, our dear friend jason said uh, I got some space.
Mondo (00:39):
And stuff and lights and we could just make it happen,
and so the power of just puttingthings out there.
Laura (00:45):
Yeah, ask.
Mondo (00:46):
Ask and you shall receive it's a real thing, you shall
find.
Okay, Look, we're a wholesymphony out here you know, how
was your day today Do?
Laura (00:59):
you want me to be honest.
Mondo (01:00):
I want you to be honest.
I mean, just go there.
Laura (01:04):
I'm feeling, to be honest , I want you to be honest.
I mean, just go there.
I'm feeling all the feels, I'mrealizing how much I am taking
in.
Oh my gosh, it's just the wavescome over me.
Mondo, I just like I, I feel itso deeply that this is a it's a
spiritual warfare between thedarkness and the light, and I
(01:26):
have so many humans that arereaching out to me and I'm so
happy that they do, but I canget taken down and forget how
powerful we are and how we getto choose intentionally to bring
the light.
But I'm telling you, I'm a deepfeeler and people are going
(01:52):
through it.
People are going through it.
Mondo (01:56):
People are going through it and I just feel like that's a
real thing in just the world ingeneral.
Right, Like, as a society,things are just happening.
What would you say to just jumpright in is something that has
kept you balanced or has allowedyou to maybe sidestep it, avoid
(02:23):
it, or have a strong enoughshield so you're not being
smacked with that negativeenergy every day.
I don't know if that questionis the right question, but I
just know I open up social mediaor if I open up the news, it's
just a lot of stuff, right?
A lot of people shouldering alot of stuff.
And so has Laura beenshouldering this stuff every day
(02:46):
and she just learned how tocarry it?
Or has Laura been like Neo inthe matrix and like just dodging
it?
or whatever right Like how are Iguess?
How do you handle that energycoming your way?
Laura (03:01):
I literally envision I've got this like protective shield
around me.
Mondo (03:06):
Okay, I mean sometimes I forget Like sometimes I forget.
So, like people call you and isit a?
Or reach out or you cross paths, is it a?
Does it feel like a dump?
Does it feel like they'reasking for help?
Do you just naturally just feelwhat they feel like, what's
(03:28):
happening?
Laura (03:29):
Help us understand just the Laura experience to get
people who resonate with yourstory.
And there's this gentleman likeI worked with well over a
decade ago and we just recentlyreconnected and it was like an
(03:52):
SOS text.
This morning, like Laura, I'mbeing just sucked up by the
darkness and I can't stop allthese negative thoughts and I
just resonate so deeply withthat because that was me.
Mondo (04:07):
Yeah.
Laura (04:08):
That was me two years ago , and so I just I like
viscerally feel his pain BecauseI think, in a way, like we're
all connected, and so of courseI'm going to say, yep, let's
talk, yep, I'm here for you,let's pray together.
Mondo (04:27):
Yeah, yeah.
I think the thing that reallystuck out to me was the word
thoughts, and so before wehopped into this podcast, I know
we went back and forth likewhat is the key word, and we
felt like consciousness was thekey word.
Is consciousness and thoughtsequivalent to you or is it
(04:48):
different?
Laura (04:51):
I think consciousness, and I actually think of the word
awareness, like when you'reaware that you are an eternal
being living in this physicalbody and it's almost remembering
(05:11):
the truth of who you are at alltimes.
Mondo (05:15):
Okay.
Laura (05:17):
That, to me, gives me comfort in knowing that, like
I'm limitless, I'm unbreakable.
Mondo (05:28):
Yeah.
Laura (05:29):
There's actually nothing here that's going to hurt me.
Mondo (05:32):
Yeah.
Laura (05:34):
And I just have been able to hear so many stories of
people who have shared with melike they've literally died and
they've gone to the other sideand they're like Laura, there's
nothing to fear.
There's absolutely nothing tofear.
Mondo (05:53):
So, as part of our responsibility to ourselves, to
come to a point in our journeywhere we truly believe that all
the way is it actually likefacing enough fears?
To know that they're illusionsfair, yeah, I mean like when I
(06:13):
think about the story of jesus,it's I faced death and conquered
it right like I would.
Resurrection was real, so likethere's no reason to be afraid
of death.
If you're a believer in Christand Christ beat death, then
where is the fear?
Laura (06:31):
Right and so.
Mondo (06:32):
I think there is some Some reality to anchor on or
some beliefs to anchor on, ifyou actually want to take that
next step right.
So we talk about fulfillmentand I believe that part of that
fulfillment martial arts rightlike happens in the mind, right?
And rather you say thoughts andconsciousness are the same or
(06:56):
they're different.
Right, it is.
Are you fulfilled enough thatyou are not in battle with your
mind and you're more in syncwith the thoughts that are going
through your mind, even ifthey're negative thoughts, like?
Are you dancing with them,right?
Or are you just like, like Ihave to purge them or I'm scared
of them, or I won't do thesethings because I have these
thoughts?
I feel like part of thisenhanced conscious experience is
(07:23):
really building a more healthy,intimate relationship with the
words that come in and go out.
And so I'm curious for you wasthere a season where you really
had to get a lot of reps in withthe words that were coming in,
that didn't, that shouldn't havebeen there, or that like you
had to wrestle with?
(07:44):
Like, was there a season inyour life where that was true?
Laura (07:47):
Absolutely, absolutely, and it's.
I mean that's those are thetimes that I've been the most
depressed or anxious, becauseI'm, I'm living in my head and
it's when you, when you dropfrom your head to your heart,
that you're able to see.
Oh my gosh, here's a thought,and, like you know, we've talked
(08:07):
about the fly swatter, rightLike, that's not from me, that's
not my, I don't think that'sjust a thought.
But when I have a higher levelof awareness and I know myself
as this divine, eternal being,then I have power over those
thoughts and I can choose whichones I want to believe in.
Mondo (08:26):
Yeah, do you believe that the and I don't want to say
thoughts that come to your heart, from your heart, but the
feeling or energy or essencethat comes from your heart is in
conflict with your mind, or wasthere a season where they were
in conflict?
Laura (08:42):
Oh yeah, hello, the human experience.
Mondo (08:49):
The reason why I framed that up is just for somebody
that might be struggling withthat, because, like that is the
majority, I believe, of thatinner work is finding the
balance between your heart andyour mind.
So, like, last night I waswatching Lucy, a Scarlett
Johansson movie.
I don't know if you've seen it,but essentially it's one of the
(09:12):
greatest movies, it's one of myfavorite movies.
So Scarlett Johanssonessentially like, gets pumped
with all these drugs, and thedrugs like enhance her awareness
, and so the theme is we onlyuse 10% of our brain and she was
pumped with so many drugs thatit unlocks certain parts of her
(09:33):
brain, and so the movie kind ofgoes through a series of.
This is what it would be likeif you use 20%, 30%, 50%, and it
really does a great artisticexpression of like showing a
human who completely like, blowsit out of the water and just
hits that next level.
But what's interesting to me,if you really like pay attention
(09:56):
to the details of that movie,is as she goes from 10 to 20 to
50 to 70, she loses herrelationship with her heart, and
so it's a great example of it'snot about seeking all the
knowledge and knowing everythingand being connected to like
only the intellectual side ofyourself, because the end of the
(10:19):
movie is she essentially turnedherself into like a cosmic
flash drive right and gave it toMorgan Freeman Like this is
everything in the universe, thisis all the knowledge.
And I guess I'm telling thestory is because the number one
thing that I took away is shelost her humanness.
She gained all the knowledgeand lost her connection to like
(10:43):
want to have a intimaterelationship with humans, and so
, as we continue to like pushfor a smarter society we got AI
doing all the intellectual workI feel like we are entering a
season where finding balancewith our heart, or leading with
our heart, may be the next likeevolution of humans, to like
(11:07):
start there or, like you said,drop from your head to your
heart, and I feel like a lot ofus are being called to do that,
to lead in that way, and I justwant to like applaud you because
I feel like every day, you'rejust like yeah, mind all, I'm
finding that balance or I'mliving in that balance.
I'm doing my best to do thesame too, but I just feel like
that is next up.
There's going to be certainhumans who just have that.
Laura (11:30):
Well, I had a moment yesterday.
I'm going to try not to crybecause I can't tell you how
many years that I spent with mylaptop, thinking I had to do the
next thing, and the next thing,and the next thing, and I
missed out.
I missed out on my kids and thespecial moments.
And last night we were at thepark and the sun was setting and
(11:54):
I was holding my five-year-old.
I was like nothing like this.
Is it Like this moment?
This, is it Like this moment?
How many more moments of likethis can I experience?
Oh, mom, look at all thedifferent colors.
And then, like this flock ofbirds came and just like
(12:15):
everything was perfect, it wasperfect, and I just like weeped
Because I had to forgive oldLaura for missing out on that.
Mondo (12:28):
Yeah.
Laura (12:29):
But it's like okay, now that I know better, I'm going to
do better, so I'm going to shutthat laptop down.
All those emails can wait,these strangers that want my
time.
I'm like what's more important?
Getting back to strangers thatwant my time, or my kids who are
right in front of me, and howmany years I chose all these
(12:50):
people wanting my time and theyall deserved a response and I'm
just burning that down yeah justburning it down choosing that.
Mondo (13:01):
So so what Laura just said I feel like is so key
because me loving media, if youwatch amazing movies, I feel
like there's typically a parentin amazing movies where they
have to make that choice or not,right, like I always go back to
a hook or Peter Pan or RobinWilliams and it's like the movie
(13:24):
is all about him losing his kidself and not paying attention
to his kids and having to goback to is it never, never land?
Is it never, never land?
Can't remember, but like hejust has to find himself, find
his kid version of himself andrecognize.
Like all these things that I'vebeen doing at work is not
bringing me joy, it's irrelevant.
(13:45):
And so again, if anybody want,go watch 94 Hook.
Laura (13:49):
If you want to cry, yes, oh my gosh, it's just such a
great movie and such a greatrepresentation of what you're
saying.
Mondo (13:57):
Because when that clarity hits, when you believe it, it's
like in the movie, like he canfly again or he can see again.
Laura (14:07):
But it truly is.
I am seeing colors differently,I experience this amazing
oneness with all around me, andI'm having these moments of oh,
this is what I came here for toexperience this beauty in this
(14:28):
moment, wow, and I allowedmyself to just play.
Just play.
Oh mom, you want to do likefloor is lava?
Sure, let's do floor is lava.
Mondo (14:41):
Yeah, what you know how people like project and plan out
a a story or see the dominoesfall.
The contrast to that is, if youdon't do that, if you don't
spend time with your kids, yourkids are going to grow up and
they are going to feel like theyare inadequate or felt like
they missed out because theydidn't receive that love, and so
(15:02):
then they then bring that same,maybe energy, to their kids,
and then the cycle repeats.
It repeats, and so choosing tohave faith and say I'm going to
be the best mom or the best dadfirst Right, I know I still have
these other responsibilities,but to the best of my ability
I'm going to be the best parent,and then everything else is
(15:25):
secondary is a huge choice tomake, but I think it completely
like changes the fabric of yourreality.
Laura (15:32):
But it's so interesting too to see like we're all just
kind of finding our way.
I like I look at my husband.
He's so great at being in thepresent moment Unbelievable and
somehow I knew that when Ipicked him, because he is just
always in the present moment andI didn't appreciate that until
(15:54):
this year.
It took me that long to see.
I used to get so upset why canyou just sit on the couch when
there's all of these otherthings to do around the house?
I would be like, excuse me,lazy butt, come on and now, oh,
there's something reallybeautiful about his ability just
(16:17):
to tune it all out and just behere now, even though that is
he's just watching sports orhe's watching something with the
kids.
Like just we're all given thesedifferent gifts and like how
can we really learn from eachother?
Mondo (16:34):
so would you say that, because relationships matter.
Were you and brian on oppositeends of the spectrum and did you
talk about it back then?
Nope, okay, it just.
You just just was.
Yeah.
Laura (16:49):
And he has noticed such a difference in me and he's like
you're fun to hang out with.
Not that I wasn't, but I wasvery high strung Like things
needed to be the way that Lauraneeded them to be, like a little
more controlling, and I'm justso much more go with the flow
(17:11):
and accepting of what is versusfighting against what is.
I think so many times I didn'taccept that what is and like
there's just a beauty aboutwhatever's coming in.
Just accept it.
Accept it and there's peace inthat, versus fighting against it
(17:33):
.
Mondo (17:34):
Yeah, I think we talked about this before and you
brought it up the other day howwe can go into a big meeting or
an environment where we're justlike, we prep for it.
We did a lot of stuff and thensomebody who may have been
perceived as a key stakeholderdecided to be late or to not
(17:56):
show up Right, and a lot of thetimes, our immediate response
would be like defensive and likehow could you do that?
Why are you not here?
And all these other things.
And I believe we made thispivot to choose to believe it is
what it is.
Everybody that's supposed to behere is here, right, and so I
just wanted to say that out loud, because that's a prime example
(18:17):
of accept what is choose tobelieve that whatever is
happening, whoever is on yourteam, whoever's in your house,
whoever you see in the morningwhen you wake up, is exactly who
is supposed to be there.
There is some gift there foryou.
You two are supposed to helpeach other grow or learn from
each other, or something like.
Whatever is right now is 100%right for you and everyone
(18:42):
around you, and choosing that isthe choice.
Laura (18:51):
You crossed my mind.
I sent you that voice memo theother day because we were having
a meeting and this one womancouldn't attend and again, old
Laura would have been pissedlike so pissed.
And then I was like no, acceptit.
Accept it Like the people thatare in the room are the people
that need to be in the room.
(19:11):
And it is what it is Pureacceptance.
Mondo (19:17):
Pure acceptance.
It's so funny because thesimplicity of it, like you know,
when you're growing up and likea I don't want to call somebody
old, so I'll say a season likea seasoned human would say
something that's like so simple,but it's like some old wisdom
(19:40):
that they got from, like theirgreat grandparents or something,
and for some reason you justdon't get it until you're like
40.
I feel like the things that wesay on this podcast is like that
, because we're just like,except what is like there's
nothing mind blowing about that.
It is actually that simple butfor some reason, like we
(20:02):
conflate it and make it waydeeper than that.
For some reason, like we needto understand.
Actually, let me go there.
I was watching the Chosen.
I watch the Chosen so much.
I was watching the Chosen andJesus was essentially trying to
get his disciples to follow hisguidance without understanding.
Essentially saying, right now,given the information you have,
(20:27):
you cannot understand it.
You have to make this choice byfaith, because that is the
muscle that I need you to workout.
Up until this point this is menow kind of elaborating on
Jesus's point in the show Upuntil this point, every choice
you made was qualified throughlogic made sense to you.
(20:51):
I need you to make choices thatdon't make sense and you're
following your heart, right.
And so how many of us arecalled in a season to follow our
heart when we're sitting nextto somebody that is driven by
logic?
And so the reason why, like,I'm really emphasizing this
(21:11):
right now, is because I call, orI challenge, the logical mind
and the heart mind to believethat in this season, they're
both right, like the logicalmind that's worrying about
everything being in the rightplace and money is being brought
in and all that stuff like thatis 100 percent necessary.
(21:32):
Thank you for doing that work.
And this person that has towander in the wilderness
spiritually, like they have todo that work and lean on the
person that is stable, andbecause that Batman and Robin
happens on the other side, whenthe blessings come from that
(21:53):
spiritual journey, then thatperson who was the stability,
it's their turn.
Or they get to sit back and belike, oh, I can receive these
fruits because you went and didsomething that made no sense to
me, but I chose to have faith.
What do you say to the peoplewho say I don't have anyone?
(22:18):
That's good.
I believe that there is astretch.
Right For my track stars, ifyou're running that 400,
eventually you get to that finalstretch, that final 100.
And it is, it is will, right.
(22:39):
It's just like your will versusthe will of other people on
that track.
And I feel like some people, ofall people, eventually in their
spiritual journey feels likethere is nobody else that gets
it or gets them, even ifsomebody is sitting right next
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to them.
So, to answer your question,some people are like I have
nobody and there may be sometruth to that.
Like they're looking around,they're like I don't have
anybody to turn or to lean on.
Okay, then the flex might bethe church is right across the
street.
I need you to walk in there, Ineed you to take the next step
(23:19):
to go find that community thathas always been there, but
you've been too stubborn to doit Right.
There's always somebody there,but you've been too stubborn to
do it right, there's alwayssomebody.
However, there's also adifferent person who might be
surrounded by people and I'msaying this because I found
myself in this seat many timesover who's surrounded by loving
people but still feel isolatedbecause nobody else quite
(23:42):
understands.
So it still feels like there'sthis island there understands,
so it still feels like there'sthis island there, and so I have
to then make the choice to belike God.
It's just me and you which Isent you the audio message the
other day.
I was just like I just talked toGod.
We were just sitting and I wasjust like all right, god, I
literally this is what I said.
I was like I was like God, Ifeel like I'm called to talk to
(24:06):
you because I don't out loud asmuch as I probably should.
And I was, like I always say, Ifelt like I've been on heaven,
on Earth's porch, right Like toconvince myself that everything
is working out the way that it'ssupposed to work out.
Like I've made these words workfor me.
But I was like, just in case.
(24:26):
Like I've made these words workfor me, but I was like, just in
case I'm confused or I'm misled, please align me so I am
following your will.
And then, in Jesus name, amen,being in a position where I felt
like I was in isolation or Ifelt like there was nobody else
(24:47):
that I could actually talk tothat could give me the right
words back that I needed, I hadto use my imagination or my
belief or my faith, to just talkto the spirit of the universe
the creator to give me somepeace or give me some guidance
or give me some words, and sothat's a long way of saying if
(25:09):
you are alone and you feel likeyou don't have anybody, it is to
flex and stretch you so you gotalk to God independently.
Over and over and over, that waslong Amen, amen.
Laura (25:23):
I also have noticed a trend in many people I've spoken
with recently and I talk to alot of people.
And it's so great to hear a lotof individuals who have had
these jobs where they get towork from home and they're
remote, coming out and they'relike I want to meet people, I
(25:46):
want to get out of my house, Iwant to go be with people in
real life.
Yeah, and that is somethingthat, oh my gosh, think about
over time what that does to thehuman spirit when you really
aren't in a community or notphysically seeing other beings.
Mondo (26:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's interesting because I havethis.
I'm definitely an omnivert.
Like I can go be extrovert andstand on stage and speak to
people for 60 minutes, 90 minutemax.
After that don't call me to thenext event.
(26:33):
I gotta go recharge.
But on the flip side, I feellike yo, you're marathon when it
comes to people, like theybring you energy yeah and like
you can keep going and so I feellike I just like, I'm like like
a hop.
Laura (26:45):
It's just like fill up, fill up, fill up, fill up.
I think at a networking event Iliterally I'm like, oh my gosh,
I'm just like hopping.
And at one point I was like Iwas like dancing.
I'm like, am I dancing at anetworking event?
What's happening right now?
But I was so joyful and I justfelt like that is exactly my
(27:10):
role to play.
And later that day two peopletext me and they're like I just
want you to know that you hadsuch an amazing effect on me and
just, oh yeah, just be you.
Be, weird, quirky, authentic youand you have no idea how that's
going to impact another human.
Mondo (27:23):
Man, that's so contrastingly good to hear.
Right, I know we always justtalk about the mandalora
different and for some reason wejust touch in the middle.
But it's like if I go to anetworking event I am moving as
slow as a turtle, like you'rehopping around and I'm just like
(27:45):
I'm staying here and eventuallyI'm going to catch eyes with
the one person I'm supposed totalk to for the next 15 minutes,
and then it just happens, orsomebody just pulls up, and so
it's yeah, it's funny how it'sweird, like it's it's volume
almost yeah it's.
Laura (28:01):
It almost feels like an adrenaline rush.
Mondo (28:05):
I want, man.
If I go to a networking event,I just want to have this one
really deep conversation, whileeverybody else is just talking
about a whole bunch of stuff.
I want somebody to be like man,what are they talking about?
That's where I get my joy from.
Not that it's right or wrong,I'm just highlighting what fills
my cup and how.
(28:26):
It's just different.
Mm, hmm, mm, hmm.
Moving forward, though, I thinkwe need to highlight something
that is extremely important,being that we are leaning into
it more on this podcast, whichis your book.
Laura (28:44):
Oh, this podcast which is your book.
Mondo (28:47):
So can you just highlight for a minute why did Laura King
choose to write a book?
Why is that even a thing thathas manifested into reality?
Laura (29:09):
It doesn't make logical sense.
It was not even my choice.
It felt choiceless.
It felt choiceless because I'vealways felt like I have a call
in my life to share, because I'min the trenches, going through
these really hard times, and Notthat I've figured everything
out, but, holy cow, I haveunlocked this new way of
(29:35):
operating in the world and whenyou get that, you want to share,
you genuinely want to share.
But initially the book was away for me to just start
processing what I was goingthrough.
Okay, yeah it was a way ofalmost accessing my higher self,
(29:55):
and I'm telling you that it'sone of those things where it's
the discipline, and so manytimes I would get these
downloads of like okay, laura,you actually wrote this already.
Go back and read it and I wouldsit with my own words and I'm
(30:16):
like thank you, god.
So I literally feel like it'schanneled from God.
These are not even my words andthey were my lessons to learn,
some of which I'm still in theprocess of learning, and yet
it's almost given myself aroadmap of like oh, all the
(30:40):
answers are actually within me.
For so many years, I thought Ihad to go out there to find it.
It's all out there andrealizing it's all in here, and
then to now know like oh yeah, Ithink I got a chapter on that.
Mondo (31:00):
Hey, that's funny.
I think I got a chapter on that.
Laura (31:04):
But it's honestly, it's the repetition of it.
It's repetition.
I think right now we are beingbombarded with so much
information when the best thingI've done is things that I
really want to learn, reallywant to embody.
I read the same couple pagesover and over, and over and over
(31:29):
and over, because repetition isthe mother of all skill, mother
of all skill.
The repetition of it somehowgets into just the way, like the
integration of it.
It's one thing to know it, it'sanother thing to actually live
it.
Mondo (31:46):
Mm.
Yeah, it reminded me of kind ofthat repetition piece.
I remember this probably likefive years ago at this point,
but Eric Thomas still, I think,the number one motivational
speaker in the world.
He did an album, maybe eight toten tracks.
That's like some of hisspeeches or motivational moments
(32:11):
, and one of them something thatI never forgot he was like I'd
rather you read a thousand pagesWell, no one page a thousand
times than a thousand pages once.
To your point like getting thatrepetition and believing those
words all in, so like it becomesthis unbreakable shield force
(32:35):
thing that you just you can'tget around it because you've
integrated it so much into yourbeingness that it just is.
So, yeah, that repetition pieceis key.
I love that piece is key.
Laura (32:49):
I love that Part of it too is like when I really
thought about it.
I've had such an intimateinside view of what's going on
in the world, at least with alot of professionals in the work
that I do as a recruiter,because I have these people who
(33:10):
are unhappy in their job or forwhatever reason they're open to
a new opportunity, talking to meand they share stuff about
their job.
But inevitably we learn abouteach other's lives and I watch
them and I see them light upwhen they talk about their
passions, their interests, whatbrings them alive, and then I
(33:32):
see them talk themselves out ofthat.
Well, that's just not possible.
Hello, I did it.
How many years?
Talk myself out of it?
That's just not possible.
I've got four kids.
My husband left his job to goopen a music school Money's
tight.
All this kids.
(33:52):
My husband left his job to goopen a music school Money's
tight, all this.
And I thought what are we doing?
What are we showing our kids?
Yep, it's possible for otherpeople, but not me, not us Like
following your dreams.
Mondo (34:07):
It's good for those people, but not me.
Okay, so you always talk aboutold Laura versus new Laura.
Is there a?
It's a two part question.
Is there a or do you envision?
Is there a newer Laura?
Is there a newest Laura?
And the reason why I say thatis because there was a season in
(34:30):
your life where you didn'tbelieve that you could follow
your dream.
Then you changed your mind andthen you followed it, and now
you're at a different checkpoint.
So is there even a?
Laura (34:41):
newer dream.
Oh, it's whatever.
I mean.
God's highest will on, you know, call on my life and I.
You know I get clues and so Ihave.
You know I've told you abouthow I love experiences.
(35:03):
So wouldn't it be so cool tohave a conference one day and
just the music and the movementand the people coming alive.
And you know I love personaldevelopment, development.
So there's something with howcan I bring more personal
development to the masses, butultimately it's like it's a
full-on faith walk yeah, yeah, I.
Mondo (35:21):
I receive that all all the way, and the reason why I
receive it all the way isbecause I feel like we god gives
us the freedom to go create ourown dream, go do a thing
without him I am a prime exampleof that and then to reset or to
(35:42):
then go follow his will.
For some it's just a slightpivot because it's parallel to
what they've been doing.
To others it's a vastlydifferent journey.
It's just like I think one of JCole's favorite, or one of my
favorite quotes from J Cole isbro, you went a long way, but
(36:05):
you went the wrong way, and solike there's been some times
where I'm like man, I've climbedthis ladder.
If I keep climbing, I feel likeit's up against the wrong wall,
so like I got to do asomersault off of it.
Um, but I say that because, forthe humans who who have always
(36:30):
been driven and have alwaysbelieved in the unimaginable
thing I'm saying thissubjectively that it's likely
the thing that we anchor on, thesuccess, the money, the fame,
the fortune, like those thingsseem to be the thing that we are
(36:57):
called to do.
Yes, and God's like yo, theperson who has all that money
it's hard for them to get intoheaven.
It's like what is it like?
A, an elephant going throughthe pin of a needle or something
like some analogy, becausesurrendering all the things that
(37:18):
you thought for the mostfulfilling thing is actually
going to be extremely hard.
And so I'm just saying thesewords because there's some
somebody, young, hungry, on theway of like I'm going to go
conquer the world and do allthese things and become the next
Bill Gates, elon Musk, whateverlike do and cool, like money is
going to be, there is going tohit.
(37:38):
But I'm asking you to pause andbe like all right, god, is this
what you want me to do?
Because if it's not, I might goand do all this stuff and then
be too scared to let it go.
And so I say that because I gotto a point where I had just got
far enough that I wasn't tooafraid to let it go.
(38:00):
But if I would have had a couplemillion, a bank, or 20 million
a bank or a hundred million abank, would I have made the
choice that I made?
I don't know.
And so, man, wherever you're atright now, to Laura's point
like, eventually, the final stepis following God's will.
So, like, ask God, am I doingthe thing you want me to do
(38:21):
right now?
And if it's not a resoundingyes, then like, like, do some
deep reflection and figure outwhat that next step is, because
you want to hear it now asopposed to later.
Laura (38:35):
Well, insert almost all of my coaching clients.
I mean it's so fun, so fun tosee people who have had these
like the stirrings or therustlings or like something
feels off and I'm able to sitdown with them and we have just
a conversation and I see exactlywhere they light up.
(38:59):
And I'm thinking of this onewoman shout out to Tia, if
you're listening.
She loves home organization,all organization, and she was
laid off from her marketing role.
She has an MBA.
She's just unbelievable andeverything that she's learned up
(39:22):
till now she's applying now inher home organizational business
and it brings her so much joybusiness and it brings her so
much joy.
And she was literally in myhouse last week and it was just
so magical to see her operate inher element and then to share
(39:43):
all these ideas she has abouthow she could market it and all
these other different productideas.
And she's got some marketingcontracts on the side.
So she's building thisportfolio career and it's just
so lit up.
It's so fun to be around peoplethat are joyous.
Mondo (40:00):
Yeah.
Laura (40:01):
And this is happening with so many other people who
are starting what they may calla side hustle, but it's the
intention of well, one day day,I'd love for this to be my main
hustle.
Mondo (40:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that.
I, yes, and I feel like thelike, the human that that person
turns into, is like a differenthuman.
Yeah, I think that's why wecalled this podcast heavenly
human, cause there's justsomething about making these
(40:32):
choices and like evolving as acharacter.
The business of things that wecreate and do is one thing, but
who we become it's who we become.
Laura (40:42):
Yeah, Because we were at an Easter egg hunt another
mutual friend over the weekendand I got to meet Tia's husband,
who thanked me, and I'm like ifI played a small part in this
transformation in this household, I'm like Ed, it's all worth it
(41:02):
.
It took me stepping outside mycomfort zone to say, oh, I think
I can coach people, To theninvite a Tia into a coaching
relationship for her to thenmake these changes and like
think about that entire rippleeffect.
Mondo (41:21):
Okay, well, as we, as we wrap this up, what would you,
what would be your call toaction to a budding Tia, to
another Tia that's out there onthe fence, or kind of stewing in
it, a little bit Like whatwould you call them to do today
or tomorrow?
Laura (41:42):
I would call them to pen and paper, Like, just what does
a dream day look like for you?
Like what does a perfect daylook like?
And then begin to say, hmm,what small piece of that dream
day can I start doing today?
(42:04):
Small, small steps.
Baby steps, baby steps, gerbersteps, small, small steps, baby
steps, baby steps, gerber steps,cause what you're, what that
person's going to find out, isthat when they're operating in
their full expression, who Godcreated them to be, they're
going to get the feedback fromall people around them to say
(42:24):
yeah.
Mondo (42:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
The the last thing that I'llclose with that I think is
starting to mature a little bitmore, is those humans who are in
their right seat, their divineseat, and how I do think we're
coming together other randomlyand I think there is a kind of
(42:53):
like new I don't want to sayrevolution, evolution like
there's just something else kindof nurturing in humanity to
contrast the negativity that hasbeen bubbling up for the last
decade.
And if you believe that you areone of those people or want to
(43:15):
be one of those people, like,continue to tune into this
podcast or send this podcast toanother person, because
hopefully we start to be atrusted voice to those humans.
And eventually, thoseserendipitous moments where
other heavenly humans stumbleupon others and it's like, oh
man, like oh you too, you too,you too, and like these little
(43:39):
pockets in different communities, like these good humans that
just want to do good, cometogether.
Somebody that is super creative, somebody that is sitting on
$100 million, somebody that's achef, somebody that's a chef and
somebody that's a teacher,right, like are just all in
relationship with each other andsomehow, you know, the Avengers
(44:01):
assembled.
Laura (44:03):
And to that I'll end with this, a text message I got
yesterday.
If we're not here to lift eachother up and give each other
some love, I'm not sure whatwe're here for.
Mondo (44:18):
Well, I would say, drop the mic, but you just bought
that mic, so don't drop it.
Well to the listeners, Lauraand I are out of here.
Peace.
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