April 7, 2025 • 41 mins
Fulfillment isn't something that happens to you—it's something you cultivate through courage and authenticity. Mondo and Laura King dive deep into what true fulfillment actually feels like and how to recognize when you're living at 97% of your potential rather than fully stepping into your divine purpose.
Laura shares her powerful story of breaking through fear to have a courageous conversation with her employer about her calling. What she discovered changed everything: "It was only me that saw myself small." This revelation led to a complete shift in how she shows up in the world—with childlike joy, authenticity, and a magnetic energy that transforms rooms.
The duo explores practical mindset techniques like Laura's "fly swatter" method for dealing with negative thoughts. When we catch ourselves thinking disempowering thoughts like "this is so hard," we can physically act out swatting them away and replace them with more compassionate perspectives: "This is just a season."
Most compelling is the conversation about awakening to who we truly are—eternal spirits having a human experience. This perspective shift allows us to experience life with heightened awareness and appreciation, from the vibrant colors of a sunset to the richness of flavors in our food. We're not just going through motions; we're alive to feel and experience everything this world offers.
For those feeling called to make changes but worried about practical concerns like finances, Laura offers hope through her own story of surrender and trust. When she finally released her grip on how things "should" work out, unexpected provision appeared.
Whether you're questioning your current path, feeling stuck in negative thought patterns, or simply curious about living with more intention and joy, this episode offers both inspiration and practical wisdom for becoming a truly heavenly human.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What we are back at it.
Welcome to the Heavenly HumanPodcast, where we help you find
fulfillment what Fulfillment.
My name is Ara Mondo, but youcan call me Mondo, and now I
have tag teamed up with one ofmy dearest friends, my partner
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in divine not crime goodness,miss Laura King.
Laura, welcome welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh, what a delight, mondo, what a delight this is.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
this is a.
This is a divine timing moment.
I, if you're just tuning in, ifthis is your first podcast, you
might want to at least go backone episode, to episode zero,
when Laura and I were like youknow what we should try out a
podcast together.
And that episode highlightsthat, where Laura tells this
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epic story of her journey andsprinkles how she broke through
to hit that next level, and itjust feels so good.
There's so much energy, there'sso much depth there.
But fast forward, god called usto come back together again,
and so I just have to ask you,laura, just today, like what's
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on your heart, what's on yourspirit?
How are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I feel like I'm just giddy with excitement.
It's just this energy of I'vegot so much to give.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I just feel so on purpose.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So one of the things that Laura and I have been, I
guess, volleying back and forth,like we're stepping into this
podcast, but we have to havesome type of reason, some type
of purpose, like what are weactually trying to add value to?
Like we're trying to helphumans get where or do what, and
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one of the words that reallyhit us was fulfillment, this
idea of fulfillment.
And so, laura, the first thingI'll ask you is like what does
fulfillment mean to you?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Fulfillment is inner peace.
Fulfillment is leading withyour heart instead of your head.
Fulfillment is those momentswhere you're like, yep, this is
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who I've been created to be.
It's the process of becoming be?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's the process of becoming.
Would you say that you feltfulfilled for a long time or you
knew to this fulfilling type ofenergy, like, was there a
certain intersection?
Do you wake up feelingfulfilled every day now?
Like what?
What is that?
It is a process of allowing.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Like what?
What is that?
It is a process of allowing itis.
I was definitely fulfilled inparts of my life.
I would go through the motionsa lot, though, and tell my I
would tell myself that I wasfulfilled, but now that I'm on
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this side and looking at my life, that is just so in flow that
there is a higher or more peaklevel to fulfillment.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well, look, so she just sprinkled in that word peak
, which is key to Laura'sjourney.
So let's catch people up,because when we had our last
conversation in September, yourlife looked a certain kind of
way, and today it looks a littlebit different.
And so can you wrap us intothis peak thing that's just in
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your spirit these days?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Tell us about this, oh, my gosh, I am just like
bursting to share that it'sliving with such courage to be
yourself, and we'll look at evenjust the makeup of my day.
I had the courage to share withmy employer where I felt led
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and called, and I was met withoverwhelming support.
And so I felt like in the past.
I had to hide pieces of me, andwhether I needed someone to
give me permission or truly, theonly person's permission I
needed was my own, allowing thespirit to guide everything,
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everything.
And so when I'm feeling stuck,I'm letting a bigger part of me
direct my next move, and so it'sso interesting to move from
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this game of logic to this gameof I'm calling it flow and
really letting my intuitionguide what the next right move
of integrity is.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Ooh, right move of integrity.
I love the word integrity, bythe way, but let's go a little
bit deeper into what you justkind of highlighted, because
it's bigger than you kind of setit up, I think.
So you having this conversation, this courageous conversation
because there's something aboutcourage that helps with this
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breakthrough so can you kind ofbring us in a little bit deeper?
How are you feeling having thisconversation?
How challenging was it?
Did you have to convinceyourself to do it?
What fears did you have?
Because a lot went into youtaking that step forward and it
may have took a second for youto get there, but once you had
it, how did you feel?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I asked a lot of questions.
I still have this visual of medriving down the highway on 494,
cranking up my Christian music,losing myself in losing myself
in the spirit and just feelingso connected with God, like I
know you're not going to letlike you got me.
You got me, but I had so muchfear and anxiety leading up to
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this.
But this has been coming for along time.
It had been coming for a longtime because I felt these pangs
of like you're not doing what Iwant you to be doing, laura.
Yeah, and now I'm like doingwhat I'm supposed to be doing,
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in that I am using my gifts intrue service of others.
Gifts in true service of othersand the results that are
happening in their lives aretruly astounding.
Some of my clients are startingbusinesses.
One left a relationship thatwasn't serving her and now is
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flourishing.
She's got a new space, she'sgot a new job, she's got a new
car.
The external results of mepouring into my clients and not
just pouring in but asking themreally hard truths and for them
to get in touch with themselvesis what I meant to do and
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stories from others that we arehelping with the intention of
allowing you listener to liveyour most fulfilled life.
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Because did we really come hereto suffer?
Does that sound like any fun?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Right, right, there is.
There's so much Love in whatyou just said that I want to
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circle back a little bit, justin case the listener, whoever
you are, if you missed it thereis a point in your journey where
you are doing things thatalmost feel like you're at peak
potential, but you knowsomething is missing.
It might be 92%, 97%, it mightbe 99.9%, but you know this one
piece is missing from the puzzle.
We all have this feeling.
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Eventually we we reach thisintersection where we're
supposed to break through tosomething else.
If you are at that point inyour journey, you are not alone.
Laura is just highlighting manyways that she broke through in
her journey when she reached herintersection.
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One of those breakthroughs washaving a courageous conversation
with an amazing employer thatis fully supportive, but she had
a little fear on like sayingthe thing out loud that she
actually needed to say.
That was just on her heart.
So what I heard Laura say is Iwas, I was called to do
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something more or do somethingdifferent to get in full, 100%,
complete alignment with my peakself.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And the thing that I had to do scared me and I had to
find the courage and theresilience to go face this fear.
And you did.
After you did that, then whatLike?
What happened?
What?
How did you?
Did you celebrate?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh yes, oh yes, because I realized, all this
time, mondo, I had been lookingat myself very small, the doubt,
the anxiety, the less than allof these things that have
haunted me most of my life.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
In that moment I realized that they saw me as big
.
It was only me that saw myselfsmall.
Is we are looking at oursituation or the broader world
with these certain type ofgoggles on that aren't.
It's not 20-20 vision right,it's slightly off, but when we
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go do the courageous thing, whenwe face the fear like that what
do I want to call it?
That fog is removed and when welook in the mirror, we're able
to see our true selves, andthat's what I'm hearing you say.
It's like once I went and hadthis courageous conversation.
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It was as if God removed thefog and I was able to see my
full self, I was able to see.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yes, yeah, I was able to fully see.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And so, if you're listening to this, this is this
is so important.
When I think about, one of themost important things that you
should consider leaning into is,when you face your fears, God
removes some blinders from yourperipheral.
You are able to see yourself inthis divine light that you just
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couldn't see before.
And it's not.
It's not even.
It's not bad, right.
I saw myself as super cool, andthen God was like I challenge
you to do this thing that you'resuper scared to do.
And then I did it and I waslike, oh, you're even cooler
than you thought.
You were Right, and it's notlike egotistical me saying that,
it's just, I already thought Ihad it, but God was like you
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don't have it all the way.
There's always more, and so,whoever you are, wherever you're
at, there is more.
If you feel like there is more,there is, just go, do the thing
.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And this is so critical because I am so lucky
to talk to so many people for aliving.
I can tell you with the utmostcertainty that you are not alone
in this.
One of my gifts is allowingpeople to open up, so I become
just authentic me right away,and they show me their authentic
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self, and so I learn a lotabout someone in a short period
of time, more than maybe atypical human, and everyone
thinks they're the only one.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And I'm here to say this is universal, yeah, that we
all have these fears, and manytimes they're illusions, and
when you face it, there is ablessing and that blessing is
exactly what Mondo said in beingable to see things from a
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different perspective and, moreimportantly, see yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
How many times do you see someone else's potential
and you speak into them?
Yeah, they see that in you andyou dismiss it Story of my life
Until now.
But I actually I'm like, ohyeah, oh yeah, it's go time.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, yeah.
One of the words that's hittingme right now is authenticity,
and so it sounds like this peakversion of Laura is the most
authentic version of you, and Iimagine that when this authentic
version of you shows up intospaces, other people just
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recognize it, they just feel it.
Can you speak to that?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It's, and I think it's just operating at a
different frequency, or just.
I now realize that I caninfluence a room, not for evil
but for good, like I can walkinto a room and change the
energy of that room.
But it's not like I'mpretending to be something else,
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I'm goofy, I'm kind of weird,like I I tell my boys this all
the time Just be weird, Just beweird, just be weird.
Goofy, and I almost think thatI go around now with the
playlike nature of a child.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah.
I remember I was having aconversation with one of my
spiritual buddies and he waslike yeah, mondo, one of the one
of the key attributes of Likefinding that divine essence is
going back to your kid self, andso hearing you say I'm pretty
much a kid self in an adult bodyall day, it reminds me of the
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movie Big with Tom Hanks back inthe day or like Elf with Will
Ferrell, Like you're justshowing up, just you're
disrupting the system withgoodness and love and that
infectious energy has otherpeople being like yeah, I want
some of that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I tested it at the gym the other day, because I
sometimes just decide I have avideo I'm watching to do some
different moves, but then I justdecided to do my own and I just
was kind of dancing and doingall these.
This guy on the treadmill hegot off the treadmill and he
came over to me he said ma'am, Ijust want to tell you that you
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look like you're having a lot offun and that's really cool to
see.
And it made me think I'm goingto get off the treadmill and I'm
going to go do something elseright now, Cause I'm going to do
something that's more fun.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Wow, yeah, yeah, that that that one of the things
that I believe, as humans, wewant to do is we want to
positively impact other humanswith our gifts, whatever that is
One of the things that we cando is we can just show up as
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love and because we are love, weare impacting the other,
because we're just showing upwith our authentically full,
loving self and they're justlike, yeah, that changed my day,
like you just did with thatperson, but do you also realize
the gift in that is?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
it comes right back to you that when you emanate
love everywhere you go and youknow I do it all the time at
supermarket or I just I'm like Isee someone who looks down and
I'm like I'm sending you love inmy, in my head, who looks down
and like I'm sending you love.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
In my head I just bless them, but I'm the one that
gets blessed, yeah, yeah, let'sgo there a little bit deeper.
Then you consciously, even ifyou don't say it out loud, you
are sending good energy and justgood thoughts to others loud.
You are sending good energy andjust good thoughts to others.
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So just talk about thatpractice of just always
practicing this positive mind,positive like your whole essence
is positive.
Has that always been a thing,or did you have to learn that?
Did you have to nurture thatlike help somebody that may be
working through that understandmaybe?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
it's something that you've done to like get there
yeah, it's a, it's a spiritualgift and it needed to be
practiced and intentionallyhoned in.
And and I I'm also, for therecord, not positive all the
time.
I'm also very human but Irealized that my energy and my
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positivity is really one of mybiggest gifts that I can impart
on others and I sense I havethis ability to sense when
someone's going throughsomething, whether they're with
me or not physically with me,and sometimes, actually a lot of
times, I send people voicememos and it's so cool.
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To Several times it's just beenbecause I've been obedient and
acting in the moment whensomeone was on my spirit and I
sent something.
They were like Laura, you hadno idea how much I needed that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
How much I needed that.
Yeah, how much I needed that.
And so it's been a practice ofme trusting myself because I
would feel silly doing this.
I'm like what I don't know.
I've met you twice.
Now I'm going to send you avoice memo, cool.
But I've practiced this enoughtimes.
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I've done the reps that I don'teven think twice.
And so, perfect example, a womanwho I've met once.
We were supposed to meet againand I wasn't able to make it and
I said, oh, I'm going on springbreak, but I could meet with
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you these other times.
And she sent me back an emailthat basically, she just poured
out all the things like whatshe's going through, like in
very big detail, and I was like,whoa, I can't detail.
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And I was like whoa, I can't.
I mean, first of all, I'm like,wow, she feels comfortable
enough to share this with me.
And her phone number was on thebottom of the email and so I
programmed it in my phone and Isent her this essentially prayer
and the response back justbrought me to tears because I
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helped her heal Not all the way,but I helped her.
And this was someone who Ibarely know, and this was
someone who I barely know andthe amount of love that I felt
while delivering that messageand the amount of love I
received in getting her textmessage five days later saying
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she choked up, she couldn't makeit through the whole audio
message, but she kept doing itevery day that there's no amount
of money.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
That that is fulfillment for me, like when my
heart is just.
It feels like it's going toburst because I've been obedient
and using my gifts to serve.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, one of the things that we were talking
about before this podcaststarted.
We were talking about, yes,jesus healed others through
these miraculous moments, butmany of the things that he said
was what transcended time.
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And so, to your point, you saidthese words that completely
changed the trajectory of thatperson's life in that moment.
Life in that moment, and allyou did not as if it was
insignificant, but all you didwas string together the right
words that came from a place oflove.
The reason why I'm emphasizingthat is because we can all do
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that.
It is purely a choice to havethis feeling like, hey, that
cousin that I haven't talked toin a long time, or my mom or dad
, or a person that is kind oflike my enemy, and every time we
see each other, we avoid eachother in the room, right, like
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I'm just going to send them avoice message or a text or an
email or write them a letter,and just doing it out of a place
of love and not having anyexpectation of how they are
going to respond, just knowingthat that is for you, it's for
you to do for your ownbreakthrough, and after you do
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it, things just start to happenfor you differently when you
continue to, as you said, put inmore reps with that type of
behavior, yep, it's like, oh, Ihaven't worked that muscle.
It's like you're not going toget abs unless you work on your
core, and so, in the same way,you're not going to get the
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blessings if you're not workingon certain blessings of others.
Right, and so that was just so,that was just so profound kind
of how you laid that out and you, just you went to a place where
you said the right words thatchanged that added value, right
and it's, and, like you said,you didn't heal her.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
No but.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
But it's what she needed in that moment, and so I
feel like we all have a piecethat we can add to another that
can help them through a moment.
It can help them pause andpivot and appreciate like man,
like that was.
Those words were so good andprobably seven years later
they're going to be in positionto then share a word with
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somebody who is also strugglingBecause they're like.
I remember when Laura said thisthing to me.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
At this time.
It's my turn now, and so yeah,and it's.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Is that leadership?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Is that leadership?
It's a good question.
Is that leadership?
So my question back would bewhere are we leading people to
Right?
Because most of the time it'slike leadership of a business or
leadership of a team, or, andso are we just leading as caring
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, loving humans, like?
Is that what we're actuallycalled to do?
Is that the most fulfillingthing?
We're like?
We're leading as heavenlyhumans, and that might be what
what we're edging towards onthis podcast.
Where you have your life, youhave the thing that you do as an
occupation, or you're a parent,like, you're all these things,
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you have all these things tiedto your identity, but just as a
human, like in your relationshipwith God, are you leading and
doing the thing to help healothers or to pour love into
others?
And I think what you're sayingis the more reps that you do in
that space, the more fulfilledyou actually feel, and so I
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don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
The.
I think that I don't know ifthis is true, but what came to
my spirit was like leadership ispointing back to yourself.
There's nothing outside of youthat's going to make you whole
and complete.
It's all in you.
And so all these leaders arelike follow me, Only me, I have
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the answers for you.
Like no, because only I havethe answers for me.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah, it reminds me of, like that,
striving for the external thing,right.
Like where are we actually going?
Do you so in your journey?
You talked about it in ourepisode zero.
You talked about being a highperformer 900K for your company
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that you're working for, andthen in that season, things
change.
But if you compare that 900Klifestyle not that you had 900K
in the bank, I don't want to saythat, but that 900K high
performing executive lifestyle,whatever you were living, the
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things that you were doing, thethings that you were thinking
about, the stress that you mayor may not have had, how do you
compare that to this fulfillmentthat you have now?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I am so much more present.
I think about how many times Itold my kids oh, mom's got to
work, I got to do this otherthing, I got to do this other
thing.
I wasn't with them.
I wasn't with them.
I just think about my life nowis I am so filled up in living
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in the present moment.
I don't worry about the futurelike I used to.
I don't dwell on pastsituations.
I think about I would spend somuch time thinking about what my
clients thought about me.
I would ruminate and ruminate.
Oh, I said this in the meeting.
I wonder, oh, I should havesaid that.
Oh, I wonder if this colleaguethinks I'm weird how much time I
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lost to amazing memories Icould have been making with my
kids because my mind wassomewhere else.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That doesn't happen anymore, and when it does, I've
got my fly swatter.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Okay, okay, let's talk about the fly swatter,
because that is a Lauraspecialty.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Okay.
So if you're a coaching client,you know this.
But whenever a thought comes uplike it goes here's the thought
, here's the thought.
I want you to grab your flyswatter and.
I want you to whack that thoughtwith all of your might.
If you could see me now.
I'm just like and you reallyget your body into it right,
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really get your physiology,because you're like this is not
how we think anymore.
This is not how we thinkanymore.
And what I'm really good at islistening to people's words,
because it starts as a thoughtand then it comes out as words
and a real life example we heardtoday no, a couple of days ago
a woman say nine times in a rowthis is so hard, this is so hard
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, this is so hard, this is sohard.
And I had later an opportunityto point this out with love.
That that's your invitation.
That's your invitation toevolve, because what's coming
out of your mouth started as athought that this is so hard,
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and then that perpetuates, andso we get to choose.
And so what is a more lovingthought?
And you might not believe thisyet, so maybe choose something
that you can believe.
It might be hard right now, butthis is not going to last
forever.
This is just a season.
Oh, I like that thought betterthan this is so hard, this is so
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hard, this is so hard.
And this is the work.
This truly is the work is howcan I reprogram my thoughts,
that turn into my words, thatturn into my behaviors, my
actions and my external reality?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Um, if you are sitting down right now, I need
you to just raise up your righthand and then, like, drop the
mic.
You know that that was, thatwas a mic drop moment.
Uh, so the reason why I saidraise your hand and drop the mic
is because that is yourinvitation to start changing
your behavior, right, like whatLaura just said is a strategy
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that she offers others to startchanging their mindset.
But what she said feels odd orfeels weird or like why would I
do that?
Right, it doesn't necessarilyhave to be that, but you have to
be open enough to start doingthings that's outside of your
norm.
And so me saying raise yourhand and do a mic drop right now
is literally a call to action.
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Like, oh yeah, that was a bar,laura mic drop.
And your body now is just likeoh okay, I'm willing to do
something a little different, alittle goofy, just because I'm
listening to a podcast and theysaid just do this thing right
now, just to opt in.
And so, whatever the things arefor you, whatever you come up
with, right, whatever strategyyou're just like, you know,
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every time I have a thought thatI don't like, I'm going to get
down and do two pushups Right,like if that's it cool, but then
just commit to that andeventually you're going to be
like I'm getting buff, I'mgetting real buff.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Also, I want to give the moms out there something
else.
Okay, so I've dealt with a lotof rage because that's just been
part of stuff that's beenhanded down to me, and so why do
you think God gave me four boys?
We are solving this rage thingin this generation.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So whenever I feel the rage coming up in my body,
I'm like, oh, that means I'msupposed to dance it out, and so
I turned it into dance.
So, like the rage comes up andrather than it like me like
terrorizing, I'm like, ah right,I'm like oh, I, usually it's
what you used to.
I want to dance with somebody.
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And this is why I sayauthenticity wins, because being
weird is so cool oh man, well,if, if, if, you knew how my
brain worked.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think a lot about superheroes.
And so, as I thought about yourrage, I'm thinking about you
turning into this green hawk andthen, right when you get to
this hawk peak, you just startdancing think of them the hulk
dancing or like doing like themacarena, right, right it's just
like that's definitely going tobring that rage down, because,
one, it's going to be fun,especially if you'd like to
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dance, and two, like just thegoofiness, it just it's
infectious, yeah, in a good wayyeah that's awesome.
Um, one of the things about kindof like changing your mind or
changing your belief is thisthis idea of awakening.
Do you one like how do youdefine that word?
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How do you define awakening?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I don't think anyone's ever actually asked me
that.
Oh okay, how do I defineawakening?
Awakening is coming into theawareness of who you really are,
which I know is you're not justthis human body.
That you are an eternal spirit,eternal, infinite, limitless,
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and you're hanging out in ahuman body playing this game.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Okay, okay.
So you are hanging out in thishuman body, this eternal
experience, and you're just like, yeah, I'm going to go play
human real quick.
And so we go play human.
And so we're here playing humanhuman real quick.
And so we go play human.
And so we're here playing human.
What is, what is your purposeplaying human today?
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What?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
does Laura feel like is her purpose as an awakened
human To experience the joys,like all that this has to offer?
Think about using our senses.
I mean the way that I look at asunset now it literally takes
my breath away.
And I'm like boys, do you seethe sunset?
And I'm like, look at all thedifferent shades of the clouds.
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They're like cool, mom, awesome.
And I'm just obsessed with this.
I mean, I think about therichness of even how I can taste
my food.
Right, I used to just shovestuff in and like on the go.
We are allowed to experienceall that this beautiful earth
(34:27):
has to offer us and we get to bea part in deciding how we want
to feel, how we want this to go.
And that's like it's theunfolding, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, yeah, this, uh, this word feeling is, so I
embrace it now more than I usedto, because when I think about
all this AI stuff right andwe're creating these I don't
know what you want to call themthese intellectual things,
(35:04):
language models and all thisstuff, and I'm like man, but
they don't fully have theability to feel.
We do, which is a gift, right.
And since we have this extralayer, this ability to feel,
let's start taking advantage ofchoosing how we want to feel.
And so when you're saying, likeyo, I want to go watch this
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sunset because the feeling of itbrings me so much peace and joy
and fulfillment, like you'rechoosing to embark on journeys
and choices, that's going tohelp you feel that way.
And so what I hear Laura sayingis take control of the things
that make you feel a certainkind of way, and if you no
longer want to feel those thingsand you want to feel something
(35:49):
different, let's start makingnew choices, start changing our
minds so we can start feelingdifferently, because filling is
the gift right, you know howwe're shifting to our spending
behavior and it's more onexperiences instead of stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
This is the yes, we came here to experience and I
think about all the time.
This is the yes, we came hereto experience and I think about
all the time.
I don't really do it muchanymore, but I would just sit
and watch TV, Like, yeah, okay,there's a time and place for
that, but like, let's goexperience life.
Yeah, you know, I convinced myhusband to go take a dance class
with me the other day.
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That was a really funexperience.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Right Like, come alive again, feel the day again,
embrace these gifts that we'vebeen given and I think that
that's because I've been so incorporate America.
I just look at so many peopleand I just want them to feel the
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day again.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah.
So these things that we'retalking about fulfillment and
experiencing life and startingto change your mind, to just be
a heavenly human right To lovethis experience more than you're
loving it right now Laura and Iwould love to add value in as
(37:18):
many positive ways as we can andwe're going to have
conversations, but one of thethings we are looking for is,
like yo submit certain questionsright, like like ask us to talk
about certain topics so we cango deep on those topics, because
one of the things that Lauraand I believe is, the more
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authentic we are right, the morefreedom and space we give for
other people to have theconfidence to also be authentic,
to also share their truth, andso there are going to be some,
some questions that you ask thatyou're like, you know nobody is
answering this question,nobody's talking about this
topic, and I would really likesome support in this.
We're open to have thoseconversations back and forth
(38:01):
because I believe for the mostpart we've escaped caring about
being judged by others and sowe'll say the things out loud to
like start to mature thatconversation so more of us are
having it.
So if you have any topics,ideas, things you are navigating
here, like I really want somehelp with that, you know, drop
(38:24):
it in an email or text thispodcast because you can do that
right in the podcasting app.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Uh, things that you disagree with too.
I mean, I think what I, what iscoming up for me now, is there
probably a lot of people, um,and their ego is saying must be
nice to be you, must be nice tobe, mondo, you know, you have it
all figured out?
Oh, please, let me tell youthat is not the case.
Like I have been thebreadwinner in my household, my
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husband left corporate Americaand opened a music school, so we
have a lot of debt.
And this is what's held me backfor so long is because, okay,
yes, we can make certainlifestyle adjustments Absolutely
.
Okay, yes, we can make certainlifestyle adjustments Absolutely
, but there was still thisnumber hanging over my head.
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This number hanging over myhead how God am I supposed to
make this kind of money doingthe work you want me to do?
I don't know.
I don't know.
And the story I told myself isthere's not a way, there's not a
way.
And I sat in that for way toolong, and that was part of my
(39:38):
unhappiness and my uneasiness isbecause the story I told myself
was it wasn't possible.
And then something lifted lastspring.
No, no fall, it was last fall,where I heard it's like Laura,
would you just trust me, wouldyou just trust me?
And a series of events unfoldedthat just blew my mind.
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And the money came and Brianwas like Laura, I don't feel
comfortable you doing anythinguntil we have like six months of
income built up.
And you know we got four kidsand we, you know we've got all
these things.
And then God just provided, hedid, he provided and he wants
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you to do the thing that's inyour heart, the thing that, like
you, sing for, that makes yoursoul sing.
And I know you might be likeagain sort of, yeah, laura, that
must be nice, right?
I believe wholeheartedly thatthis is the exact opportunity
(40:47):
that you have when you believeit's possible and tell me it
took me a long time to believeit was possible.
So I get that.
I get that.
You can sit in there like Idon't know how this is going to.
But when you finally surrenderand say, okay, god, show me, I'm
listening, prepare to be amazed.
What we are back at it.
Welcome to the Heavenly HumanPodcast, where we help you find
fulfillment what Fulfillment.
My name is Ara Mondo, but youcan call me Mondo, and now I
have tag teamed up with one ofmy dearest friends, my partner
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in divine not crime goodness,miss Laura King.
Laura, welcome welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh, what a delight, mondo, what a delight this is.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
this is a.
This is a divine timing moment.
I, if you're just tuning in, ifthis is your first podcast, you
might want to at least go backone episode, to episode zero,
when Laura and I were like youknow what we should try out a
podcast together.
And that episode highlightsthat, where Laura tells this
(00:55):
epic story of her journey andsprinkles how she broke through
to hit that next level, and itjust feels so good.
There's so much energy, there'sso much depth there.
But fast forward, god called usto come back together again,
and so I just have to ask you,laura, just today, like what's
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on your heart, what's on yourspirit?
How are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I feel like I'm just giddy with excitement.
It's just this energy of I'vegot so much to give.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I just feel so on purpose.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So one of the things that Laura and I have been, I
guess, volleying back and forth,like we're stepping into this
podcast, but we have to havesome type of reason, some type
of purpose, like what are weactually trying to add value to?
Like we're trying to helphumans get where or do what, and
(02:00):
one of the words that reallyhit us was fulfillment, this
idea of fulfillment.
And so, laura, the first thingI'll ask you is like what does
fulfillment mean to you?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Fulfillment is inner peace.
Fulfillment is leading withyour heart instead of your head.
Fulfillment is those momentswhere you're like, yep, this is
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who I've been created to be.
It's the process of becoming be?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's the process of becoming.
Would you say that you feltfulfilled for a long time or you
knew to this fulfilling type ofenergy, like, was there a
certain intersection?
Do you wake up feelingfulfilled every day now?
Like what?
What is that?
It is a process of allowing.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Like what?
What is that?
It is a process of allowing itis.
I was definitely fulfilled inparts of my life.
I would go through the motionsa lot, though, and tell my I
would tell myself that I wasfulfilled, but now that I'm on
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this side and looking at my life, that is just so in flow that
there is a higher or more peaklevel to fulfillment.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well, look, so she just sprinkled in that word peak
, which is key to Laura'sjourney.
So let's catch people up,because when we had our last
conversation in September, yourlife looked a certain kind of
way, and today it looks a littlebit different.
And so can you wrap us intothis peak thing that's just in
(04:01):
your spirit these days?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Tell us about this, oh, my gosh, I am just like
bursting to share that it'sliving with such courage to be
yourself, and we'll look at evenjust the makeup of my day.
I had the courage to share withmy employer where I felt led
(04:27):
and called, and I was met withoverwhelming support.
And so I felt like in the past.
I had to hide pieces of me, andwhether I needed someone to
give me permission or truly, theonly person's permission I
needed was my own, allowing thespirit to guide everything,
(04:54):
everything.
And so when I'm feeling stuck,I'm letting a bigger part of me
direct my next move, and so it'sso interesting to move from
(05:21):
this game of logic to this gameof I'm calling it flow and
really letting my intuitionguide what the next right move
of integrity is.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Ooh, right move of integrity.
I love the word integrity, bythe way, but let's go a little
bit deeper into what you justkind of highlighted, because
it's bigger than you kind of setit up, I think.
So you having this conversation, this courageous conversation
because there's something aboutcourage that helps with this
(05:54):
breakthrough so can you kind ofbring us in a little bit deeper?
How are you feeling having thisconversation?
How challenging was it?
Did you have to convinceyourself to do it?
What fears did you have?
Because a lot went into youtaking that step forward and it
may have took a second for youto get there, but once you had
it, how did you feel?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I asked a lot of questions.
I still have this visual of medriving down the highway on 494,
cranking up my Christian music,losing myself in losing myself
in the spirit and just feelingso connected with God, like I
know you're not going to letlike you got me.
You got me, but I had so muchfear and anxiety leading up to
(06:36):
this.
But this has been coming for along time.
It had been coming for a longtime because I felt these pangs
of like you're not doing what Iwant you to be doing, laura.
Yeah, and now I'm like doingwhat I'm supposed to be doing,
(06:58):
in that I am using my gifts intrue service of others.
Gifts in true service of othersand the results that are
happening in their lives aretruly astounding.
Some of my clients are startingbusinesses.
One left a relationship thatwasn't serving her and now is
(07:22):
flourishing.
She's got a new space, she'sgot a new job, she's got a new
car.
The external results of mepouring into my clients and not
just pouring in but asking themreally hard truths and for them
to get in touch with themselvesis what I meant to do and
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stories from others that we arehelping with the intention of
allowing you listener to liveyour most fulfilled life.
(08:12):
Because did we really come hereto suffer?
Does that sound like any fun?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Right, right, there is.
There's so much Love in whatyou just said that I want to
(08:44):
circle back a little bit, justin case the listener, whoever
you are, if you missed it thereis a point in your journey where
you are doing things thatalmost feel like you're at peak
potential, but you knowsomething is missing.
It might be 92%, 97%, it mightbe 99.9%, but you know this one
piece is missing from the puzzle.
We all have this feeling.
(09:06):
Eventually we we reach thisintersection where we're
supposed to break through tosomething else.
If you are at that point inyour journey, you are not alone.
Laura is just highlighting manyways that she broke through in
her journey when she reached herintersection.
(09:27):
One of those breakthroughs washaving a courageous conversation
with an amazing employer thatis fully supportive, but she had
a little fear on like sayingthe thing out loud that she
actually needed to say.
That was just on her heart.
So what I heard Laura say is Iwas, I was called to do
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something more or do somethingdifferent to get in full, 100%,
complete alignment with my peakself.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And the thing that I had to do scared me and I had to
find the courage and theresilience to go face this fear.
And you did.
After you did that, then whatLike?
What happened?
What?
How did you?
Did you celebrate?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh yes, oh yes, because I realized, all this
time, mondo, I had been lookingat myself very small, the doubt,
the anxiety, the less than allof these things that have
haunted me most of my life.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
In that moment I realized that they saw me as big
.
It was only me that saw myselfsmall.
Is we are looking at oursituation or the broader world
with these certain type ofgoggles on that aren't.
It's not 20-20 vision right,it's slightly off, but when we
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go do the courageous thing, whenwe face the fear like that what
do I want to call it?
That fog is removed and when welook in the mirror, we're able
to see our true selves, andthat's what I'm hearing you say.
It's like once I went and hadthis courageous conversation.
(11:37):
It was as if God removed thefog and I was able to see my
full self, I was able to see.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yes, yeah, I was able to fully see.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And so, if you're listening to this, this is this
is so important.
When I think about, one of themost important things that you
should consider leaning into is,when you face your fears, God
removes some blinders from yourperipheral.
You are able to see yourself inthis divine light that you just
(12:11):
couldn't see before.
And it's not.
It's not even.
It's not bad, right.
I saw myself as super cool, andthen God was like I challenge
you to do this thing that you'resuper scared to do.
And then I did it and I waslike, oh, you're even cooler
than you thought.
You were Right, and it's notlike egotistical me saying that,
it's just, I already thought Ihad it, but God was like you
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don't have it all the way.
There's always more, and so,whoever you are, wherever you're
at, there is more.
If you feel like there is more,there is, just go, do the thing
.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And this is so critical because I am so lucky
to talk to so many people for aliving.
I can tell you with the utmostcertainty that you are not alone
in this.
One of my gifts is allowingpeople to open up, so I become
just authentic me right away,and they show me their authentic
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self, and so I learn a lotabout someone in a short period
of time, more than maybe atypical human, and everyone
thinks they're the only one.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And I'm here to say this is universal, yeah, that we
all have these fears, and manytimes they're illusions, and
when you face it, there is ablessing and that blessing is
exactly what Mondo said in beingable to see things from a
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different perspective and, moreimportantly, see yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
How many times do you see someone else's potential
and you speak into them?
Yeah, they see that in you andyou dismiss it Story of my life
Until now.
But I actually I'm like, ohyeah, oh yeah, it's go time.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, yeah.
One of the words that's hittingme right now is authenticity,
and so it sounds like this peakversion of Laura is the most
authentic version of you, and Iimagine that when this authentic
version of you shows up intospaces, other people just
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recognize it, they just feel it.
Can you speak to that?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It's, and I think it's just operating at a
different frequency, or just.
I now realize that I caninfluence a room, not for evil
but for good, like I can walkinto a room and change the
energy of that room.
But it's not like I'mpretending to be something else,
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I'm goofy, I'm kind of weird,like I I tell my boys this all
the time Just be weird, Just beweird, just be weird.
Goofy, and I almost think thatI go around now with the
playlike nature of a child.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah.
I remember I was having aconversation with one of my
spiritual buddies and he waslike yeah, mondo, one of the one
of the key attributes of Likefinding that divine essence is
going back to your kid self, andso hearing you say I'm pretty
much a kid self in an adult bodyall day, it reminds me of the
(15:42):
movie Big with Tom Hanks back inthe day or like Elf with Will
Ferrell, Like you're justshowing up, just you're
disrupting the system withgoodness and love and that
infectious energy has otherpeople being like yeah, I want
some of that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I tested it at the gym the other day, because I
sometimes just decide I have avideo I'm watching to do some
different moves, but then I justdecided to do my own and I just
was kind of dancing and doingall these.
This guy on the treadmill hegot off the treadmill and he
came over to me he said ma'am, Ijust want to tell you that you
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look like you're having a lot offun and that's really cool to
see.
And it made me think I'm goingto get off the treadmill and I'm
going to go do something elseright now, Cause I'm going to do
something that's more fun.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Wow, yeah, yeah, that that that one of the things
that I believe, as humans, wewant to do is we want to
positively impact other humanswith our gifts, whatever that is
One of the things that we cando is we can just show up as
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love and because we are love, weare impacting the other,
because we're just showing upwith our authentically full,
loving self and they're justlike, yeah, that changed my day,
like you just did with thatperson, but do you also realize
the gift in that is?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
it comes right back to you that when you emanate
love everywhere you go and youknow I do it all the time at
supermarket or I just I'm like Isee someone who looks down and
I'm like I'm sending you love inmy, in my head, who looks down
and like I'm sending you love.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
In my head I just bless them, but I'm the one that
gets blessed, yeah, yeah, let'sgo there a little bit deeper.
Then you consciously, even ifyou don't say it out loud, you
are sending good energy and justgood thoughts to others loud.
You are sending good energy andjust good thoughts to others.
(17:49):
So just talk about thatpractice of just always
practicing this positive mind,positive like your whole essence
is positive.
Has that always been a thing,or did you have to learn that?
Did you have to nurture thatlike help somebody that may be
working through that understandmaybe?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
it's something that you've done to like get there
yeah, it's a, it's a spiritualgift and it needed to be
practiced and intentionallyhoned in.
And and I I'm also, for therecord, not positive all the
time.
I'm also very human but Irealized that my energy and my
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positivity is really one of mybiggest gifts that I can impart
on others and I sense I havethis ability to sense when
someone's going throughsomething, whether they're with
me or not physically with me,and sometimes, actually a lot of
times, I send people voicememos and it's so cool.
(18:47):
To Several times it's just beenbecause I've been obedient and
acting in the moment whensomeone was on my spirit and I
sent something.
They were like Laura, you hadno idea how much I needed that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
How much I needed that.
Yeah, how much I needed that.
And so it's been a practice ofme trusting myself because I
would feel silly doing this.
I'm like what I don't know.
I've met you twice.
Now I'm going to send you avoice memo, cool.
But I've practiced this enoughtimes.
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I've done the reps that I don'teven think twice.
And so, perfect example, a womanwho I've met once.
We were supposed to meet againand I wasn't able to make it and
I said, oh, I'm going on springbreak, but I could meet with
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you these other times.
And she sent me back an emailthat basically, she just poured
out all the things like whatshe's going through, like in
very big detail, and I was like,whoa, I can't detail.
(20:10):
And I was like whoa, I can't.
I mean, first of all, I'm like,wow, she feels comfortable
enough to share this with me.
And her phone number was on thebottom of the email and so I
programmed it in my phone and Isent her this essentially prayer
and the response back justbrought me to tears because I
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helped her heal Not all the way,but I helped her.
And this was someone who Ibarely know, and this was
someone who I barely know andthe amount of love that I felt
while delivering that messageand the amount of love I
received in getting her textmessage five days later saying
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she choked up, she couldn't makeit through the whole audio
message, but she kept doing itevery day that there's no amount
of money.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
That that is fulfillment for me, like when my
heart is just.
It feels like it's going toburst because I've been obedient
and using my gifts to serve.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, one of the things that we were talking
about before this podcaststarted.
We were talking about, yes,jesus healed others through
these miraculous moments, butmany of the things that he said
was what transcended time.
(21:44):
And so, to your point, you saidthese words that completely
changed the trajectory of thatperson's life in that moment.
Life in that moment, and allyou did not as if it was
insignificant, but all you didwas string together the right
words that came from a place oflove.
The reason why I'm emphasizingthat is because we can all do
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that.
It is purely a choice to havethis feeling like, hey, that
cousin that I haven't talked toin a long time, or my mom or dad
, or a person that is kind oflike my enemy, and every time we
see each other, we avoid eachother in the room, right, like
(22:28):
I'm just going to send them avoice message or a text or an
email or write them a letter,and just doing it out of a place
of love and not having anyexpectation of how they are
going to respond, just knowingthat that is for you, it's for
you to do for your ownbreakthrough, and after you do
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it, things just start to happenfor you differently when you
continue to, as you said, put inmore reps with that type of
behavior, yep, it's like, oh, Ihaven't worked that muscle.
It's like you're not going toget abs unless you work on your
core, and so, in the same way,you're not going to get the
(23:09):
blessings if you're not workingon certain blessings of others.
Right, and so that was just so,that was just so profound kind
of how you laid that out and you, just you went to a place where
you said the right words thatchanged that added value, right
and it's, and, like you said,you didn't heal her.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
No but.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
But it's what she needed in that moment, and so I
feel like we all have a piecethat we can add to another that
can help them through a moment.
It can help them pause andpivot and appreciate like man,
like that was.
Those words were so good andprobably seven years later
they're going to be in positionto then share a word with
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somebody who is also strugglingBecause they're like.
I remember when Laura said thisthing to me.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
At this time.
It's my turn now, and so yeah,and it's.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Is that leadership?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Is that leadership?
It's a good question.
Is that leadership?
So my question back would bewhere are we leading people to
Right?
Because most of the time it'slike leadership of a business or
leadership of a team, or, andso are we just leading as caring
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, loving humans, like?
Is that what we're actuallycalled to do?
Is that the most fulfillingthing?
We're like?
We're leading as heavenlyhumans, and that might be what
what we're edging towards onthis podcast.
Where you have your life, youhave the thing that you do as an
occupation, or you're a parent,like, you're all these things,
(24:51):
you have all these things tiedto your identity, but just as a
human, like in your relationshipwith God, are you leading and
doing the thing to help healothers or to pour love into
others?
And I think what you're sayingis the more reps that you do in
that space, the more fulfilledyou actually feel, and so I
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don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
The.
I think that I don't know ifthis is true, but what came to
my spirit was like leadership ispointing back to yourself.
There's nothing outside of youthat's going to make you whole
and complete.
It's all in you.
And so all these leaders arelike follow me, Only me, I have
(25:43):
the answers for you.
Like no, because only I havethe answers for me.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah, it reminds me of, like that,
striving for the external thing,right.
Like where are we actually going?
Do you so in your journey?
You talked about it in ourepisode zero.
You talked about being a highperformer 900K for your company
(26:11):
that you're working for, andthen in that season, things
change.
But if you compare that 900Klifestyle not that you had 900K
in the bank, I don't want to saythat, but that 900K high
performing executive lifestyle,whatever you were living, the
(26:33):
things that you were doing, thethings that you were thinking
about, the stress that you mayor may not have had, how do you
compare that to this fulfillmentthat you have now?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I am so much more present.
I think about how many times Itold my kids oh, mom's got to
work, I got to do this otherthing, I got to do this other
thing.
I wasn't with them.
I wasn't with them.
I just think about my life nowis I am so filled up in living
(27:03):
in the present moment.
I don't worry about the futurelike I used to.
I don't dwell on pastsituations.
I think about I would spend somuch time thinking about what my
clients thought about me.
I would ruminate and ruminate.
Oh, I said this in the meeting.
I wonder, oh, I should havesaid that.
Oh, I wonder if this colleaguethinks I'm weird how much time I
(27:27):
lost to amazing memories Icould have been making with my
kids because my mind wassomewhere else.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That doesn't happen anymore, and when it does, I've
got my fly swatter.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Okay, okay, let's talk about the fly swatter,
because that is a Lauraspecialty.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Okay.
So if you're a coaching client,you know this.
But whenever a thought comes uplike it goes here's the thought
, here's the thought.
I want you to grab your flyswatter and.
I want you to whack that thoughtwith all of your might.
If you could see me now.
I'm just like and you reallyget your body into it right,
(28:13):
really get your physiology,because you're like this is not
how we think anymore.
This is not how we thinkanymore.
And what I'm really good at islistening to people's words,
because it starts as a thoughtand then it comes out as words
and a real life example we heardtoday no, a couple of days ago
a woman say nine times in a rowthis is so hard, this is so hard
(28:39):
, this is so hard, this is sohard.
And I had later an opportunityto point this out with love.
That that's your invitation.
That's your invitation toevolve, because what's coming
out of your mouth started as athought that this is so hard,
(29:01):
and then that perpetuates, andso we get to choose.
And so what is a more lovingthought?
And you might not believe thisyet, so maybe choose something
that you can believe.
It might be hard right now, butthis is not going to last
forever.
This is just a season.
Oh, I like that thought betterthan this is so hard, this is so
(29:24):
hard, this is so hard.
And this is the work.
This truly is the work is howcan I reprogram my thoughts,
that turn into my words, thatturn into my behaviors, my
actions and my external reality?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Um, if you are sitting down right now, I need
you to just raise up your righthand and then, like, drop the
mic.
You know that that was, thatwas a mic drop moment.
Uh, so the reason why I saidraise your hand and drop the mic
is because that is yourinvitation to start changing
your behavior, right, like whatLaura just said is a strategy
(30:06):
that she offers others to startchanging their mindset.
But what she said feels odd orfeels weird or like why would I
do that?
Right, it doesn't necessarilyhave to be that, but you have to
be open enough to start doingthings that's outside of your
norm.
And so me saying raise yourhand and do a mic drop right now
is literally a call to action.
(30:28):
Like, oh yeah, that was a bar,laura mic drop.
And your body now is just likeoh okay, I'm willing to do
something a little different, alittle goofy, just because I'm
listening to a podcast and theysaid just do this thing right
now, just to opt in.
And so, whatever the things arefor you, whatever you come up
with, right, whatever strategyyou're just like, you know,
(30:50):
every time I have a thought thatI don't like, I'm going to get
down and do two pushups Right,like if that's it cool, but then
just commit to that andeventually you're going to be
like I'm getting buff, I'mgetting real buff.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Also, I want to give the moms out there something
else.
Okay, so I've dealt with a lotof rage because that's just been
part of stuff that's beenhanded down to me, and so why do
you think God gave me four boys?
We are solving this rage thingin this generation.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So whenever I feel the rage coming up in my body,
I'm like, oh, that means I'msupposed to dance it out, and so
I turned it into dance.
So, like the rage comes up andrather than it like me like
terrorizing, I'm like, ah right,I'm like oh, I, usually it's
what you used to.
I want to dance with somebody.
(31:45):
And this is why I sayauthenticity wins, because being
weird is so cool oh man, well,if, if, if, you knew how my
brain worked.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think a lot about superheroes.
And so, as I thought about yourrage, I'm thinking about you
turning into this green hawk andthen, right when you get to
this hawk peak, you just startdancing think of them the hulk
dancing or like doing like themacarena, right, right it's just
like that's definitely going tobring that rage down, because,
one, it's going to be fun,especially if you'd like to
(32:21):
dance, and two, like just thegoofiness, it just it's
infectious, yeah, in a good wayyeah that's awesome.
Um, one of the things about kindof like changing your mind or
changing your belief is thisthis idea of awakening.
Do you one like how do youdefine that word?
(32:45):
How do you define awakening?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I don't think anyone's ever actually asked me
that.
Oh okay, how do I defineawakening?
Awakening is coming into theawareness of who you really are,
which I know is you're not justthis human body.
That you are an eternal spirit,eternal, infinite, limitless,
(33:13):
and you're hanging out in ahuman body playing this game.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Okay, okay.
So you are hanging out in thishuman body, this eternal
experience, and you're just like, yeah, I'm going to go play
human real quick.
And so we go play human.
And so we're here playing humanhuman real quick.
And so we go play human.
And so we're here playing human.
What is, what is your purposeplaying human today?
(33:42):
What?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
does Laura feel like is her purpose as an awakened
human To experience the joys,like all that this has to offer?
Think about using our senses.
I mean the way that I look at asunset now it literally takes
my breath away.
And I'm like boys, do you seethe sunset?
And I'm like, look at all thedifferent shades of the clouds.
(34:03):
They're like cool, mom, awesome.
And I'm just obsessed with this.
I mean, I think about therichness of even how I can taste
my food.
Right, I used to just shovestuff in and like on the go.
We are allowed to experienceall that this beautiful earth
(34:27):
has to offer us and we get to bea part in deciding how we want
to feel, how we want this to go.
And that's like it's theunfolding, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, yeah, this, uh, this word feeling is, so I
embrace it now more than I usedto, because when I think about
all this AI stuff right andwe're creating these I don't
know what you want to call themthese intellectual things,
(35:04):
language models and all thisstuff, and I'm like man, but
they don't fully have theability to feel.
We do, which is a gift, right.
And since we have this extralayer, this ability to feel,
let's start taking advantage ofchoosing how we want to feel.
And so when you're saying, likeyo, I want to go watch this
(35:26):
sunset because the feeling of itbrings me so much peace and joy
and fulfillment, like you'rechoosing to embark on journeys
and choices, that's going tohelp you feel that way.
And so what I hear Laura sayingis take control of the things
that make you feel a certainkind of way, and if you no
longer want to feel those thingsand you want to feel something
(35:49):
different, let's start makingnew choices, start changing our
minds so we can start feelingdifferently, because filling is
the gift right, you know howwe're shifting to our spending
behavior and it's more onexperiences instead of stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
This is the yes, we came here to experience and I
think about all the time.
This is the yes, we came hereto experience and I think about
all the time.
I don't really do it muchanymore, but I would just sit
and watch TV, Like, yeah, okay,there's a time and place for
that, but like, let's goexperience life.
Yeah, you know, I convinced myhusband to go take a dance class
with me the other day.
(36:27):
That was a really funexperience.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Right Like, come alive again, feel the day again,
embrace these gifts that we'vebeen given and I think that
that's because I've been so incorporate America.
I just look at so many peopleand I just want them to feel the
(36:54):
day again.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah.
So these things that we'retalking about fulfillment and
experiencing life and startingto change your mind, to just be
a heavenly human right To lovethis experience more than you're
loving it right now Laura and Iwould love to add value in as
(37:18):
many positive ways as we can andwe're going to have
conversations, but one of thethings we are looking for is,
like yo submit certain questionsright, like like ask us to talk
about certain topics so we cango deep on those topics, because
one of the things that Lauraand I believe is, the more
(37:38):
authentic we are right, the morefreedom and space we give for
other people to have theconfidence to also be authentic,
to also share their truth, andso there are going to be some,
some questions that you ask thatyou're like, you know nobody is
answering this question,nobody's talking about this
topic, and I would really likesome support in this.
We're open to have thoseconversations back and forth
(38:01):
because I believe for the mostpart we've escaped caring about
being judged by others and sowe'll say the things out loud to
like start to mature thatconversation so more of us are
having it.
So if you have any topics,ideas, things you are navigating
here, like I really want somehelp with that, you know, drop
(38:24):
it in an email or text thispodcast because you can do that
right in the podcasting app.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Uh, things that you disagree with too.
I mean, I think what I, what iscoming up for me now, is there
probably a lot of people, um,and their ego is saying must be
nice to be you, must be nice tobe, mondo, you know, you have it
all figured out?
Oh, please, let me tell youthat is not the case.
Like I have been thebreadwinner in my household, my
(38:54):
husband left corporate Americaand opened a music school, so we
have a lot of debt.
And this is what's held me backfor so long is because, okay,
yes, we can make certainlifestyle adjustments Absolutely
.
Okay, yes, we can make certainlifestyle adjustments Absolutely
, but there was still thisnumber hanging over my head.
(39:17):
This number hanging over myhead how God am I supposed to
make this kind of money doingthe work you want me to do?
I don't know.
I don't know.
And the story I told myself isthere's not a way, there's not a
way.
And I sat in that for way toolong, and that was part of my
(39:38):
unhappiness and my uneasiness isbecause the story I told myself
was it wasn't possible.
And then something lifted lastspring.
No, no fall, it was last fall,where I heard it's like Laura,
would you just trust me, wouldyou just trust me?
And a series of events unfoldedthat just blew my mind.
(40:03):
And the money came and Brianwas like Laura, I don't feel
comfortable you doing anythinguntil we have like six months of
income built up.
And you know we got four kidsand we, you know we've got all
these things.
And then God just provided, hedid, he provided and he wants
(40:25):
you to do the thing that's inyour heart, the thing that, like
you, sing for, that makes yoursoul sing.
And I know you might be likeagain sort of, yeah, laura, that
must be nice, right?
I believe wholeheartedly thatthis is the exact opportunity
(40:47):
that you have when you believeit's possible and tell me it
took me a long time to believeit was possible.
So I get that.
I get that.
You can sit in there like Idon't know how this is going to.
But when you finally surrenderand say, okay, god, show me, I'm
listening, prepare to be amazed.
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