Anthony - From Meth Addiction to Personal Freedom: Navigating Incarceration and the Power of Forgiveness

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An inspiring narrative unfolds through Anthony's transformational journey from addiction to redemption. He reflects on his early encounters with drugs, the repeated cycles of incarceration, and the ultimate awakening that shifted his trajectory toward sobriety, as well as how forgiveness played a pivotal role in his healing process. 

• Early childhood trauma impacting life choices 
• Descent into addiction through peer influence 
• The cycle of incarceration and self-realization 
• Spiritual awakening in jail leading to change 
• Post-release challenges and rebuilding life 
• Recovery as a holistic process involving forgiveness 
• Importance of discipline and daily action 

Anthony offers listeners a message of hope: with commitment and faith, true transformation is possible.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hector Bravo unhinged chaos is now in session.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome back to our channels, warriors.
We are still growing.
Today we have another specialguest, Anthony from unchained
fit.
This guy has six years ofsobriety, has been to freaking
every county jail there is OC,San Diego, LA, and did some time
in the Fed.
So we're going to get into hisstory and how he ended up
getting sober.
What's up, Anthony?

(00:32):
How's it going?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
man what's?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
happening?
What's up, Hector?
How's your day going so far?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Pretty good man, blessed, super fortunate man.
Just life continues to grow.
That's right every aspect.
And you know, first andforemost I got to thank God man.
Just super grateful today andjust a blessing every day being
sober man.
It's just biggest game changerin the world.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Has God always been in your life?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I was born, raised Roman Catholic up until like a
little after 10 years old.
So I've always been a believer,but I definitely strayed away
from it up until I decided toget clean and that's when I had
a real epiphany.
God really sat me down and Ijust kind of, I just, I just, I

(01:16):
just quit.
I gave up, man, I quit bangingmy head against the wall Once.
I just kind of figured that,like I figured, my addiction was
a common denominator for allthe troubles I had got in.
He sat me down, I was in a jailcell and I just gave up.
I was like all right, man, I'mdone.
Like let's run it.
What was your drug of choice?
I've gone through pretty mucheverything.

(01:37):
What really really destroyed mylife was meth, and that didn't
happen until I was 30 years old.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Were you smoking it, snorting it, injecting it,
smoking it, smoking it, smokingit?
And you said that you were ableto identify your incarcerations
.
You were able to identify itwith meth usage.
That correct, yes, how were youable to identify that after did
?
Did it take a few times to tripto jail?
Did you finally get an epiphany?

(02:06):
I say that because my dad toldme one time Hector, every time
you've been to jail, alcohol hasbeen a factor.
Do you not see that?
And I was, like I don't know,still in denial.
How was it for you?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Absolutely.
It took a lot of times.
It took countless times.
I really don't even know thespecific count I could count, as
in years.
The first time I got in troublewas 26, 27, and it took about
10 years and there was constantincarcerations, getting out,

(02:39):
violating, going back and justrepeating that crazy cycle for
10 years.
So you grew up in Los Angeles,la yes, sir, what part I'm from.
The west side, like SantaMonica, venice area Spent a lot
of time in like mid-city area,but I grew up in the Palisades
just recently burned down, damndude really.
Yeah, I grew up in the Palisades, so it came from a good

(03:01):
middle-class home.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
So if you grew up there, how did you feel seeing
it all burn down on the newsrecently?
Yeah, it was a trip man, was it?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
It was a trip man.
My cousin still lives there,his grandma and his mom.
His mom partially lost herplace, grandma, they had to
remove from the house.
They removed her from the house.
That house burned down in theAlphabet Streets and then, like
two days later, she ended uppassing away.
Oh man, I think, just from likeall the trauma and everything.

(03:31):
Sorry to hear that, dude.
Yeah, it was.
Uh.
For the most part everybody wassafe, though everybody lost
everything, but everybody, youknow, stayed safe.
So right, yeah, damn dude.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
So you, you mentioned 10 years old.
A lot of you said that's whenyou started using drugs.
Yeah, how did that come about?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
seven years old.
Christmas Eve, our parents cometo the door of my bedroom and
uh come in and tell me thatthey're getting a divorce.
And I was like I laughed at him, I guess, and uh, but next
morning it was real wentdownstairs.
Mom was sitting there by theChristmas tree, kind of her head
in her hands, and uh I was likeokay, I guess this is real.

(04:06):
Went up kind of supported herand then my brother came running
down who was uh three yearsyounger and uh kind of grabbed
on to me.
I was like, damn bro, like justbecame the man of the house at
seven years old shit damn dude.
And you remember that at sevenyears old that they told you
they were getting a divorce yeah, I, I remember them telling me
that, and I don't rememberlaughing in their face, though

(04:27):
Fuck dude, did that harm thefamily dynamics between you 100%
?
You know I was too young toreally kind of understand the
whole thing, the whole thing.

(04:49):
But unfortunately I did realizethat I could use that as an
excuse for me to start screwingup as a kid or getting into
trouble Like that.
That year I was going to aprivate school and we got caught
in the bathroom with acelebrity.
Her first name is Kate I'm notgoing to drop her last name, but
I got caught with her in thebathroom and principal comes in
there and she's like oh, shetells her to go back to class

(05:11):
and then she tells me to waitand then sends me to the office.
She starts cussing me out.
And so I remember I like pickedup a basketball and threw it at
this assistant principal, but Igot kicked out of school.
And I remember using that Icould use that.
They would say like oh, hisparents are going through a
divorce, it's okay, he's havingtrouble.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
And so I was just like okay, I guess I can do what
I want now and not get introuble did you feel that
because there was a lack of amale, male authority figure that
you could a wild out like that?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I think that might have been an issue.
I don't think I really realizedit.
He was still.
My father was still prettypresent.
He just was not in the home.
He'd come, maybe like once ortwice a week, to pick us up,
take us to school.
He would still come to myplayed a lot of sports, so he
would still come.
We would throw the ball forbaseball.
He'd be at all my sportinggames.
Yeah, he'd still go with melike on a lot of the boy scout

(06:06):
stuff that I did.
So he was still pretty activebut wasn't really wasn't in the
house and I think that's kind ofthe main thing.
I'm a firm believer today that,like both roles a man and a
female needed to be present inthe house.
You know, raising a kid damndude.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
That scares me because I left my home freaking
six months ago through thedynamics that was happening
there, you know, and I do have asix-year-old daughter, but I
mean it's good to hear thisinsight, man.
Um so how did you getintroduced to dope at such a
young age?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
so a few.
Just a couple years after thatI was 10 years old and, um, it
was actually some of my buddiesthat I was in the boy scouts
with but also going school with.
A lot of them had oldersiblings, and so it all started
off just like smoking, weed,drinking alcohol, stuff like
that.
Unfortunately, some of theolder siblings got into heavy

(06:54):
drugs right away.
So I remember being like 12years old and my buddy, his
older brother, overdosed onheroin, and so there were kids
dying in this upper-classneighborhood, like the Palisades
, that were overdosing on heroinall the time.
So I ended up getting into allthe other stuff though
pharmaceuticals, hallucinogens,cocaine.

(07:16):
I had just stayed away from theheroin and I seen what the meth
was doing to people and I wasjust like I got to stay away
from that.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Now, did that affect your schooling?
Did you drop out?
Did you?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
stay.
Stayed in school.
Stayed in school.
I got kicked out of um.
Got kicked out of a few privateschools.
You know it was one afteranother after another.
Then started going to publicschools.
Uh, managed to um stay at thefifth grade one.
It didn't get kicked out.
Um got caught throwingfireworks at kids with my same
group of buddies that I wassmoking weed with.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Bro, you were like the problem child junior from
the movie Problem Child.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, you know, I didn't see it then, but I can
totally see it now.
You know what I mean.
In sixth grade I ended upgetting caught with weed, with a
sack of weed in class.
It was at Paul Revere MiddleSchool.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
How did you get caught?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
somebody told on you, my buddy wanted to see the sack
in the middle of class.
And I'm like, dude, likeseriously.
He's like, oh, let me see it.
So I slide it to him.
He gets it and then he likelooks at her or whatever.
And then like reaches over andhands it to me like this, and I
like snatch it real quick.
And the teacher sees it andshe's like what's that?
I'm like, uh, it's a note.
She's like it's a note.
She's like what does it say?

(08:26):
And I'm like, uh, we thinkyou're hot.
She's like let me see the note.
And I'm like, no, I can't dothat.
So she comes up and literallylike starts, like tackles me out
of my chair, out of the littledesk with the wood thing, yeah.
And so I like kick it back tomy buddy behind me.
He gets it and runs to the backdoor God damn, a bunch of

(08:46):
little inmates, bro, bro.
And he stops at the back door.
I'm like, dude, what are youdoing?
Like go run.
And she's like hey, come back,come here.
So he walks back up and handsit to her and she seizes a sack
of weed and she's like oh my,and.
And she's like oh my, and.
So this was a public school andso we had a school officer
there, so she calls them.

(09:07):
It was right before lunchtime,so they come up, put us in
handcuffs and walk us down infront of the school right at
lunchtime, in front of everybody.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
How'd that make you feel Like a badass?
Yeah, I thought.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I was kind of cool.
You know what I mean.
Damn bro.
Yeah, it was ridiculous.
And uh, didn't kick me out,just put me on a week suspension
.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Um, hung out with my dad at work for that week and
that was pretty much it now atany time, with your like dad
telling you stuff like hey, youshouldn't be doing this he
wasn't really.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
My dad was has been a pretty, you know, straight
laced.
He never got into drugs, neverreally drank too much.
He would have a couple of beersbut but never seen him
intoxicated.
He was a big martial arts guy.
He used to work out at Gold'sin Venice back in the day when
Arnold was there and all them.
So he never really got intothat.
So he didn't really know, Ithink really have much

(09:58):
experience so he didn't reallyknow much what to do about it
really.
Now would you say you're anaddict much what to do about it.
Really.
Now would you say you're anaddict for sure, absolutely, man
.
Yeah, it's just like once Ifirst started doing that, once I
first started smoking oranything, it was just like a
habitual thing and did itprogressively get worse?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
absolutely yeah.
So after high school, dude,like I can imagine that school
in itself should keep youstructured right in some sort of
fashion.
What happens after, when youhave no more structure?
What do you start doing, dude?
Imagine that school in itselfshould keep you structured right
in some sort of fashion.
What happens after, when youhave no more structure?
What do you start doing, dude?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
uh, again, it was like the older I get, so I
always had like a crew of guysthat I ran with when I was
getting into high school, had acrew of buddies, and we were,
we're in a crew, you know, likea like a tagging crew, you know
what I mean, and so, but we gotto be a pretty big crew and back
then like, uh, gangs wouldn'tbeef with crews, you know what I

(10:51):
mean, it would just kind of beseparate.
And but we ended up getting bigenough to where it was like
gangs started beefing with usand so, um, it got pretty wild,
man, it was like we were goingat it with gangs and stuff.
And, um, then by the time I'min the we're in the teenage
years, a lot of my buddiesstarted, you know, getting from
the neighborhood that we werearound, that we were in, and you

(11:14):
know that's when stuff startedgetting pretty real man did your
uh drug usage escalate duringthat time period?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
It moved in through all those substances became
pretty heavy Around.
That time I was doing a lot ofhallucinogenics.
I remember going we'd be likein mid-city area, We'd be going
to schools there and I'd begiving a bunch of the homies a
bunch of acid and mushrooms andthey'd be tripping out, going

(11:46):
all over the place.
And so it definitely progressed, got pretty heavy.
It got to the point where I wasdoing so many hallucinogens
that I would take a certainamount and it would be.
I'd only supposed to be trippedfor like a day or two and I
would end up tripping for likethree or four or five days.
No way, dude, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
And so I was like, oh , this isn't good, I need to
like stop doing this now, Idon't know anything about
hallucinogenics, I don't evenknow how to pronounce it, but I
thought it seemed like maybe acouple hours or one hour you can
you get the effects.
What do you mean like days ordays?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
yeah it can be like a day, depending on you know what
you're doing're doing Like youknow, like some mushrooms or
something.
If you do a little bit, it canbe like you know a few hours
stuff like that.
But if you take a decent amountit can be like a 24-hour period
.
And what if you have a bad tripfor 24 hours?
Is that?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
possible.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh yeah, Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
A lot of the time it's just due to like people
that you're with because youknow you feel a lot of energies
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
If somebody starts getting all bugged out, you can
start feeling that.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
And so, yeah, do you ever have a bad fucking trip?
Yeah, I've had bad trips, man,is it horrible?
I mean, can you describe one?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I don't know what that is uh, yeah, it's uh, it's
hard to describe man.
It's uh, like I said, you feela lot of energy and so, um, do
you, do you see things that arenot there?
Yeah, you can.
Yeah, absolutely, and it'sfunny like I'd even been to
places where um there was.
I used to go to Topanga Canyon,a lot uh, up in LA, which is

(13:17):
like up in the mountains thereclose to Malibu, and um, there'd
be certain areas in TopangaCanyon that used to be like
Indian burial grounds and likeand all sorts of stuff and you
can totally feel, feel thatenergy, um, which is.
It's a real trip, man, but a lotof it like comes down to if
you're, if you're like a goodperson, like you have a good,

(13:40):
good soul, like if you you knowit's.
It's hard to describe man, butuh, bad trips do happen.
You can't, you can't visuallysee stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Um, yeah, it's just not for me anymore, man I don't
mean to beat a dead horse, butlike, maybe people smoke weed to
relax, right.
Maybe people snort Coke to stayup and party.
What do people dohallucinogenics for?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I think it's a few different things.
Some people can want to reallylike have a connection with
whatever.
I'm a man of faith and sothat's where my belief system is
at but a lot of people feellike they can trip and have like
a connection with the world orthe earth.
Okay, okay, yeah.
So I mean you definitely feellike you know what is reality.

(14:23):
Technically, I mean, it's ahard thing to describe.
It's like we only see likevisual wavelength, I think, is
like 0.002.
I think everything else is likedark matter and stuff like that
.
So I mean there's a whole lotthat happens in our, in our
atmosphere that we don't see.
You know, we don't see likewi-fi, we don't see.
So it's like there's a lot ofthings taking place that we just

(14:45):
don't visually see, that we'renot conscious to, and so by
doing that stuff, sometimesyou're able to kind of tap in or
feel a lot of what other?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
what other things are going on damn bro, you're a
professional drug user man,unfortunately I was.
So tell us about the first timeyou got landed in the can bro
like, like a good long term, orwas this?
Which county was it?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
so first time man, I was a rookie man, it was biggest
mistake I made in my life.
Um, I had come back to la, umfrom from, I from, I'd left the
States.
I left, like in 2000,.
Stuff started getting prettyactive.
Man.
I had a few buddies of minegetting in a lot of trouble,
people looking at all day beinglocked up.
Some friends ended up missing,some friends died.

(15:29):
So I got out, got out ofCalifornia.
I was in Arizona for a couple ofyears, went to Texas for about
four and a half years, beinggone from family for so long,
decided to come back, came toSan, came here to San Diego.
My brother had started aconstruction company was with
him.
We got up into LA to work onsome custom spec houses in in

(15:49):
Bel Air, brentwood area Big, bigstuff, right, and ended up
getting hooked up with a girlthat I knew from high school.
Ended up getting hooked up witha girl that I knew from high
school and we started talking,we started dating and it turns
out that this girl is just likecrazy bro, like batshit crazy,
and so she was.

(16:09):
She used to drink a lot and sothere was a one night she was
drinking, wasted and basicallyattacks me and cops get called,
I get arrested.
I got like eight hematoma bitemarks all over me from where
she's you know.
And um, was she mexican?
No, she's a white girl.

(16:30):
I would have figured she wasmexican bro.
Yeah, she's a bro, that dude,yeah.
So, yeah, it was horrible man.
It's like so, whatever, like soI mean, I'm in there and I call
her and I'm like, hey, this iscrazy.
Like like.
She's like, okay, I'll takecare of it.
You know my, you know this is.
I know it's not right, I'lltake care of it.
I'm like okay, cool, so we goto court, like a week later or

(16:50):
whatever, and she shows up withher mom and her mom knows me
from back in the day when wewere in high school together and
she doesn't like me.
She's like, oh, this kid's bad.
Yeah.
So I guess apparently she wasbeing supported by her mom still
, and her mom was like if youdon't testify against this dude,
I'm gonna cut you off damn.
So she ends up flipping and saysI like put hands on her and

(17:10):
she's got no now.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Were you bailed out?
Were you in custody?
I was in custody holy shit Iwas in custody and uh.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
So that's like when I first started going to court.
I'm in the LA, I'm going toBoucher Street Court, ccb Court,
and so when I'm going to courtI was at first a trustee and so
I'd go to court, be in the courttanks and I'd get pushed up on.
They'd be asking me for myshoes or my thermal.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
And you know you're just not supposed to give this
stuff up, so I'd be in the coretanks.
I'd end up getting this in sandiego or in la, in la, in la,
yeah where did this, thisdomestic incident, happen, san
diego or in la?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
oh, it happened in la .

Speaker 1 (17:48):
This was in la, all right it's because you had said
your brother was workingconstruction down in san diego.
I had thought of right, yeah.
And then we moved up to la tostart working on the houses in
la so now you're in a trustyarea and you got the hispanics
pushing up on you because theylike your shoes, yeah, or they
want to take them from youpretty much.
You're a tall ass, dude.
Dude, how tall are you?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
uh, six three and change.
Yeah, yeah, I'll say like sixfour.
Yeah, I got some boots on soI'm probably right um, and they
just would all jump you.
Yeah, it was like 2008.
So I got in trouble actuallyJanuary 21st 2008.
And so this was going throughlike February, March, and they

(18:29):
would just ask me for your shoesand I would already know.
When I went in and I was housed, they're like, hey look, when
you go to court they're probablygoing to bump you up and you're
just not supposed to cough yourstuff up.
I'm like, OK, so I just, youknow, I just need to notch your
size, homeboy.
And so I end up getting smashedby a tank full of dudes.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Now, do they end up taking your shoes, or do they
just smash you?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean, they'll end up getting them.
You know what I mean.
Once, like you know, while I'mgetting stomped or whatever
they'll take them off your feet,yeah, yeah, and then they'll
end up somebody, somebody willtake them and they'll end up
giving you their blown out shoesthat are all got holes in them
and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
So it's all good, it's part of the game, you know
now do you think for the viewersout there that never been to
jail and they want to know howto survive, what would happen if
you just said like, oh yeah,you could have these shoes and
just handed them over?
Yeah, so what happens is you'llbe sucking dick like next week
no, but reputation carries quickright everywhere, like wherever
you go.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
So like trust and believe, like if you do that and
then when you get back to yourunit they will know what
happened, people will know andtalk about it and like so and it
follows you everywhere you go.
Like a lot of the time like I'dend up being places where I'd
end up having the pad and like Iwould know ahead of time.
Like that some guy was comingover that was like either no
good or something had happened,like I'd hear about it before

(19:46):
they'd even get to where theywere at.
Wow, dude, yeah, I mean, it's areal communication.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
So for the viewers out there, it's not in your best
interest to just giveeverything up right, there is
not in your best interest tojust give everything up, right,
right?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
no, uh, yeah, and it's not a, it's not a big deal,
I mean a lot of stuff.
Most of the time, like thoseones in the court tanks are
going to last a little bitlonger because you know it's a
while before the deputies comethrough, but usually, like, if
you're in a unit and something'sgoing to happen, you just got
to do what you got to do andit's not going to last long.
Before you know it, theythey'll be at the bars with the,
you know, with the paintballguns or the gas, and you know

(20:20):
all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
So talk to me about the different units and levels
of the LA County jail.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
So, um, initially so I ended up getting so like I I I
fought that case to April andat that point in time I had
brought in a private attorneyand it was at jury selection and
so he ended up not showing upthat day because he had another
case.
And so they were like you gotto take this deal or go to trial

(20:47):
.
And the deal was it would makeme a felon.
But they were like, if you takethis, you get out today a week
or like two weeks and I'm like,okay.
So I took the deal Worstdecision I ever made became a
felon.
You took the deal, you got astrike, no strike, but I took a
felony.
I took a felony a year incounty, 52-week anger management

(21:07):
course, three years probation.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Once you took the deal, did you?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
get released.
No, they told me.
They were like, if you take it,you could be gone today.
This is what they told me,verbim, I pull, I wanted to pull
the minute report.
I'm like they said today, aweek or in two weeks.
I'm like so, basically, if Itake this, I'm out of here in
two weeks.
And they're like yeah, I'm likeokay, shoot it.
Yeah, took it.
That was um April 10th, 2008.
My birthday's in May.

(21:30):
My birthday comes up May 24th.
I'm still in there.
I call my attorney.
I'm like dude, what's up?
Man, this is more than twoweeks.
He's like dude.
He's like I looked on the, uh,on the, on the in the computer.
Your date is August 3rd.
I was like what?
I was like how is that evenpossible, bro?
Like they told me in court likea week or two weeks.
Like what's, pull the minutereport.
And he's like that me asecurity level, I think seven.

(21:50):
La court, la County, has asecurity levels that goes from
one to 10.
And so, being a seven, it's ahigher end.
So whenever, so like at thatpoint in time after that case

(22:12):
happened, I got booted out toSupermax, which is at a North
County correctional facility, uh, wayside, uh pitches detention
center.
It's out there by magicmountain and so I would go there
.
So I mean, I've been to everyfacility in la county jail, um,
initially going there, uh, Istarted off.
I think it was in like the um,I think it was like the five or

(22:34):
six hundreds, something likethat, but they have like 500,
600, 700, 800.
Then is like high security, andthen nine hundreds is like high
power.
That's where, like, celebritiesare at.
While I was there, suge Knightcame through there.
And the nine hundreds, yeah, andthe nine hundreds.
And then Chris Brown camethrough there looking all smoked
out.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Now I've seen some pictures of LA County Jail.
Is it like the cells?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
and then you're staring at a wall, um, that,
yeah, that's, that's wherethat's at.
Is um, is downtown, that's inlike um, I think it's central or
old county where you have, orthere's the towers like in the
dungeons, because a lot of it islike subterranean.
Uh, you go down and I thinkit's like I think it's the two
thousand, 3000, 4000, roughlyabout that, but those are all

(23:22):
subterranean and so it's thecells, a small walkway and then
it's the wall right there.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, yeah.
What type of inmates go there?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Uh, it just everything depends, like uh,
security levels, um, if you'regoing to court, if you're not
going to court, uh, I got stuckthere, housed in um right around
one of those floors, uh, causeI had come down for medical, for
like a dental issue, and gotstuck there.
So I mean it just it just itjust depends where you're at If
you've been sentenced, notsentenced, if you're fighting

(23:51):
some, you know, uh, a lot ofvariables.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
And during that time?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
how were the deputies ?
How were the deputies?
How were the deputies, man, Iknow you mentioned what did you
call them?
What did you call them?
Yeah, so, uh, 3 000 boys, yeah,yeah, let's talk about that.
So, uh, around that time, likelate, late aughts, like 8, 2000,
I think might have been earlier, like 7, 8, 9, 10, um, there
were these sheriffs that allworked the 3000 floor, which was
part of that subterranean uhfloor, and uh, there were a
bunch of, uh, mostly white dudes, big dudes.

(24:24):
They were all juiced up, youknow, juiced out the game bigger
than you or your size, notbigger man big dudes.
Yeah, like had a.
Most of them had like an inchor two on me and they were like
yoked yoked and they wouldn'teven wear a belt.
You know a lot of deputies weara belt with everything on it
yeah they got no belt, they gota mag light in their back pocket
and they'd be walking aroundcarrying like a monster or a

(24:46):
rock star.
And they're all bald-headed,they're all blasted up, they're
all blasted.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
All blasted, sleeved out, next blasted and this is
the first I'm hearing about this, so now I'm super intrigued,
intrigued bro.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, and that was their gang and they would all
have three X's on them, 3,000boys, and they were smashing
people Like if you came, theywere like regular dudes, like if
you came through, they werelike what's up, man, you're like
what's up and like if you lookat them they'd be like what the
like?
If you went, you looked at them, they would.
They would smack you with themag light, bust your shit open

(25:19):
and now I know so.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Um sheriff vianueva, I know he was under a lot of
scrutiny for the alleged gangsin la county sheriffs.
Is that one of the gangs thatthey were bringing up?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
uh, I'm not sure.
I know that.
I think this was under when itwas like tanaka, when uh, tanaka
ended up getting indicted, okay, and uh yeah, because there was
actually tanaka who?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
who was that before?
So one of the sheriffs gotindicted?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
yeah, holy shit yeah, the, it was the main, I think
he was.
I don't know if he was thedirect direct under the sheriff,
but he was.
One of the top guys was tanaka,and then another guy, it was it
was an old guy, bro.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
I can't fucking remember his name right now,
though Was it Lee Baca, baca,baca.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Baca yeah, it was him dude.
Yeah, it was Baca he gotfucking federally indicted.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I believe, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Baca, and then Tanaka was under him, I think, and
then, but yeah, they were likewhat, and they smashed this dude

(26:25):
and he died and that's whatstarted the whole thing, this
like whole big thing with himnow, does that scare you as an
inmate like damn dude, theseguys ain't fucking around
absolutely man, it does.
Well, I mean, it's just like itjust caused me to just be really
on point, right?
You know, pay attention, don'tbe stupid.
Like what do you?
You know, just so.
I just was just had my head ona swivel.

(26:46):
Listen to whoever like.
Wherever you go, people giveyou the rundown like, hey, this
is the program, this is what you, this is what we do, this is
what you don't do, this is whereyou do that.
This, you shower, this is so.
I'm just taking notes and Ijust would follow the program.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Now, were you accepting of the program or did
you have a hard time adjusting?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
No, I just followed the program.
Just follow the program Ahundred percent and it wasn't an
issue to you.
No, uh-uh Cause you would seepeople that didn't follow the
program and what happens, andit's just, it's just better to
follow protocol yeah, for sure,dude.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Um, what about like day room activities or yard
recreational?
Did you have any of that whileyou were in jail?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
uh, yes, uh, everywhere was different.
You know it's like uh, so we'lljust talk like super max.
There's a lot of time in supermax and so, uh, there you don't
see any daylight.
It's all inside the facility,um, and so we ended up.
You get so their units.
It's kind of like a kind oflike a two, 70 yard.
Uh, you go and there's a fewunits within a corner, um, and

(27:48):
so you have a day room.
Uh, you have probably about,like you know, 50 racks on the
bottom floor, towards the back,you a few day room tables, and
then you have stairs that go upand then you have some racks
upstairs.
There's a shower upstairs, youknow, sink, pisser, and then the
same downstairs, so there's nottoo much activities that go on

(28:08):
with the day room and everything, um, and you would get yard
once a week for like about threehours, so you'd only see
daylight.
What did the yard look like?
Uh, supermax, you have a like afew different yards, depending
where you're, where you'rehoused at, but for the most part
, um, you come out, it's prettylike you come out, it's open,
it's pretty big, they have a fewbasketball courts, a couple

(28:31):
little volleyball, uh, nets, um,and then most of them,
depending.
Sometimes you have a fence orsometimes you have a wall, but
it's a pretty big open area, uha track that people walk around,
uh some pull-up bars, uhpissers and sinks, stuff like
that deputies on the groundlevel yeah, deputies on the
ground level, they have a uhthere's, there's uh towers, so

(28:52):
there'll be guys in the towerswith guns and then, uh, you have
a, a bubble not they call it abubble, but it's where it's like
a fence.
And uh, a lot of them were allright, some of them, they would
come in, they'd have, like,they'd bring music, they'd bring
an mp3 player or something backthen and they'd have a speaker.
So we did get to hear somemusic and stuff.
So, uh, you know, everybody'son there just doing pull-ups,

(29:13):
walking the track, um, whatabout mandatory workouts?
mandatory workouts?
Absolutely so if you're 36years old or younger, mandatory
to be working out.
Uh, I just kind of like I saidI would see I would just always
be observing and see like how,how people operated, you know,
see like what guys kind ofseemed like they had things

(29:34):
going for them, and just kind ofsee see what they did on their
day to day things and just kindof mocked that it was like okay,
you know, be up early, keep mybed or bed area in order, keep
my mat.
Like you know, usually forwhite guys it's not like
mandatory to have your matrolled up, but I would roll my
mat and have all my stuff foldedand put away, like you know.

(30:01):
Uh, so I just ran a real tightprogram or tight routine myself
and, um, just from being there,from from doing doing time, from
being in there, like eventuallya lot of times I'd end up
having pads, stuff like that Iend up running the, running the
unit, you know.
So you, you got used to it.
Then I did, got used to it.
I never used like my addictionwould always.
It's just it's just as easy toget high in there as it is on

(30:21):
the street.
You know, it's pretty.
It's pretty expensive, um, toget high in there, but people
are doing it all the time.
They'd have like in each unitthere'd be like one binky which
would be like a homemade needleand like everybody in the unit
would share that thing.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
God damn bro.
That's a good way to gethepatitis C and that's why a lot
of people have it All sorts ofstuff.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, it's MRSA, all sorts of crap, man, and so I
never got high just because ofeverything.
That's Staph infection, bro,like I dude guys would have
stuff so bad that.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
So the reason you didn't get high is just I wasn't
trying to get messed off.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
You know what I mean.
I just you know.
I just it was real serious.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
In there is, like you know, stuff would be popping
off all the time and so I justwas trying to make sure I just
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Now, you were telling me beforewe started the show that the
mexicans were trying toincorporate you guys into their
program, such as like adding tothe kitty.
Yeah, yeah, tell us about that.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, so each everywhere, like each facility,
was a little bit different.
People would, I mean it'd bedifferent in how they, how how
the homies Southsiders would tryto push up on on the whites.
In regards to because before Idon't know when it was, it was
maybe, like I don't know, maybeearly, it was early aughts, like
early aughts that it kicked offbecause before we would have to

(32:01):
contribute to the kitty, but wefought over it and it kind of
was declared that OK, we don'tcontribute, we run our own
program, they run their program,but we still back each other if
something pops off.
And so, depending on differentfacilities, they would press a
lot harder than other places.
So but I knew what it was andso I just always drew a line

(32:23):
down there.
I was like, hey, look, this iswhat it is.
And a lot of time, fortunately,just due to on the street, I
grew up with a lot of Hispanicdudes and so if it came down to
it, I would, you know, I wouldcall in like hey, you know in,
like hey, this is who I am, thisis where I'm from, this is who
I grew up with, and they wouldget found out and things would

(32:43):
be made all right.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
So, since you were not using in jail, how did you
view it?
Did you view it as a timeout?
Break away from the real world,getting yourself together?
How did you view that?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, I really always kept things real separate.
How did you view that?
Yeah, I really always keptthings real separate because I
would see people that wouldalways be on the stress box or
on the phone and they wouldreally be caught up in
everything that's taking placein the world.
And it didn't work out good forthem.
They would have a really hardtime, and so I knew I just had
to keep everything separate.
So it was basically likeeverything was just put on hold,

(33:17):
like I didn't think about theoutside world when I was in
there.
I just focused like that was myworld, that was my day to day,
like make sure I'm doing thisand this every day, um, just to
make sure everything was runningsmoothly for myself.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Now you told me, you landed yourself in federal
custody, was that?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
here.
Uh, yeah, eventually, so,eventually.
So I uh, I was doing thisnonsense man it was.
Uh, started smoking meth at 30and really started falling off.
Uh, eventually lost my job,lost the place I was living in
and then just was running thestreets like did you get sucked
up?
sucked up, bro.

(33:55):
Yeah, I got some pictures.
But, yeah, sucked up, yeah, notgood, no-transcript.
And I was with a buddy of mineand we were going and picking up
some stuff, doing some crap,and got stopped and basically
figured out that they had ourpictures in the car for LAPD

(34:17):
Pacific Division and I ended upbeing on their most wanted list,
I guess.
And it was crazy, bro, this wasright before I lost my place.
They came to my house, knockedon the door.
Long story short, they ended upchasing me through the apartment
, I like Superman, off the patio, really, in just my boxers, and
I'm running down the street injust my boxers, get away from

(34:38):
them.
And then a couple of days laterI'm over there by, like La
Cienega in Venice, at myhomeboy's house.
They see me on foot and I endup getting a foot pursuit,
outrun the unit.
Then the ghetto bird comes.
Got away from the ghetto bird,and it was crazy man.
Eventually they ended upsnatching me up and, um, it was.
I never realized how, like whatI was doing, or it was, I guess

(35:01):
, some sort of a big deal.
I remember being in the tank,uh, one of the substations in LA
, when they finally got me andlike dudes were coming, you know
, coming to their shift orleaving their shift, and they'd
see me in there and they werelike, yeah, hell, yeah.
And I'm like like over me, likewhat the yeah?
But um, yeah, so it got, it gotpretty out of hand and um,

(35:23):
eventually I was, uh, eventuallythey maxed me out one time I
was I had gotten a program andwas they ended up.
I didn't go back to the program, they stopped me and so I went
back to court and he was like,oh, you're back so soon.
I told you I'm gonna give youyour joint suspension.
So he gave me my prison termsuspension, which was three
years with half, so I get lockedup.

(35:44):
That was in january, this wasjanuary 2014, and then, and then
, uh, in april, I was at ummedium south yard, which is out
at uh at wayside as well, wheresupermax is at.
That's like the low securitycamp, snoopy, you got like a
sand volleyball court and, um,I'm there on a sunday and they
call, they call, they call meand I go outside and they're

(36:06):
like, hey, you need contact home.
What?
So?
I call home, I call my dad andhe's like hey, angelo's dead.
And I was like what?
And that's my younger brother.
Um, we had a owned aconstruction company.
He got into it with one of theguys that worked with us.
Dude, uh, knew where, knewwhere my brother lived, pulled
up to the pad, hopped out andjust started dumping on the way,

(36:28):
no way, dude yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, I'm sorry, and you were in jail at this time.
Yeah, I was in.
Yeah, could they let you?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
go, so started going through the process like you can
go to a funeral, you know whatI mean.
So I followed the paperwork,judge denied it and then
approved it, and then it endedup getting denied again because
they took the body from LA hereto San Diego and it was going to
be awake in LA but the bodywasn't going to be present, and

(36:55):
so they said that since aphysical body wasn't going to be
present, I couldn't go.
So missed all that and I didn'tget out until about a year and
a half after that.
Damn dude, yeah.
So at that point I was off paperand really wanted to stay clean
.
I came down here to San Diegoto be close to my mom, help

(37:17):
support her, and things didn'twork out.
I was starting to work for thefamily restaurants and me and
her husband we don't really getalong too well and so that
lasted a few weeks and the nextthing I know I had no job and,
uh, I take full responsibility.
All of this was my decisions,my choices, and I made a you
know, a bad decision to startgetting high again.

(37:39):
So started, you know, smokingmeth again and just ripping and
running in San Diego man turnedthis place into a playground,
like I did LA and um at thatpoint, do you believe you were
self-medicating?
for sure Self-medicating, and itwas like at that point.
It's just like that turns liketo the my.

(38:00):
My whole world is like just is,is keeping up with my addiction
and like supporting my, like mysurvival needs.
You know everything else is outthe window.
It's just like completelyconsumed by my addiction.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
So here in San Diego, I mean what were you doing,
dude Hopping on the trolleygoing around bouncing around
downtown?
I mean what were you just?
Uh, not, Santee, where were youat?
Just all?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
over.
I was, I was, uh, I was prettymuch like like mission Valley
downtown, uh, mostly out thisway.
Way didn't get out out eastcounty very much.
Um, I'd always have like a car.
I'd end up having like a stolencar.
Uh, I was staying at the momosall the time and uh just ripping
and running, peeling thingsfrom stores and selling them and

(38:41):
uh just living a crazylifestyle.
And uh, eventually then thatwent for a few years and then
2018, I got caught.
I was coming into downtown herein a G-Ride, in a new Audi, and
next thing, you know, I had aswarm of cop cars on me.
They called it in, I guess, andso I took them on a high-speed

(39:02):
pursuit through downtown on likea Friday at like 5.30 pm.
It's like people, carseverywhere.
Traffic everywhere, managed toget back up and get on the
freeway here and lost most ofthem.
But then somebody pulled intome, I caught a flat tire, got it
off the freeway around likeSassafras and then I ran and
started hopping fences.
I was going to run back acrossthe freeway but all the cars

(39:25):
were there, all the cop carsthere.
But they, all the cars werethere, all the cop cars.
There's like 15 of them orsomething.
And so I started doubling backand I can hear them coming.
Were you high, high, as high asa kite man?
Fuck dude.
So I've, I've found a crawlspace under a house.
I went under a crawl space.
Most of them came, went left.
Finally, one came in and, like,went up under there, found me,
pulled me out and, uh, that'sactually my clean date, so

(39:48):
that's october 5th 2018 october5th, 2018, the day you got
twacked out of your mind andwent on a fucking car chase from
hell crazy.
I had like a big bag full of carfobs.
I had like streets with carsparked all up and down them.
I was just madness, bro.
I had the key to a bentley inmy pocket and they like pat me
down.
They're like what is this?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I'm like I don't worry about it, you know dude
madness is that when you gotcharged with a federal crime, no
, so that's so they charged mewas a gta felony, evading,
felony, resisting, uh, blah,blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
And that's when I was in, uh, I was at, um, uh,
what's the name of it?
It's at george bailey, it's oneof the facilities right there
at George Bailey and and so I'min there and I just was like, so
this was October, it happenedOctober, so, like November, my
brother's birthday is inNovember and the holidays were
coming up and I'm like goingthrough it, man, I'm like dude,

(40:43):
what am I doing?
Like here, I am locked up again, the holidays are coming again
Like started counting and it waslike more holidays than I
wanted to admit to that I'd beenlocked up consecutively for.
And so I was going to churchservice there and had a
breakdown, bro, I just straightbroke down in the church service
.
I was like, just like, justjust hit me, man Just broke.

(41:03):
And I was like I'm done, man,like, and so I'd be in my cell
and I would just be talking toGod.
Man, that's when I firststarted talking to God, just
like he's my homeboy.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Let's back up real quick.
When you were using, at thatpoint in San Diego, did you have
a will to live?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, you did.
Yeah, it was just a will tolive, to get high, I don't know.
I mean, I just knew.
I knew, I've always known thatlike I'm, I was better than what
I was doing.
But I was just so consumed bymy addiction and then all the
relationships had kind of I hadkind of pushed them all the way
or they, you know, so I justdidn't really have it.
Did you want to?
stop but didn't know how, or youdidn't even want to stop.

(41:41):
I didn't want to live that lifeanymore, I know that, but you
kind of just didn't stop it.
Yeah, there was no.
There is no really way of likeof stopping it.
I get it, man.
Yeah, I get it.
Yeah, it was rough and um.
So I just started talking to godin my cell.
I was like man.

(42:01):
I was like I'm just done, man.
I was like that's, when it hitme, it's like my addiction.
I mean, I already knew it, butit was like that's when it was
really like okay, and I was.
I was like I was like, allright, god, I was like man.
I was like give me a program,bro, and I'm done, dude.
And there was no program optionon the table at court.
And uh, so I was on the busgoing to court talking to God

(42:23):
and I was like asking him for asign.
And I passed a church and I'mlike, okay.
I was like, but I need anothersign, god.
I was like you know, I'mhardheaded.
And so we passed another churchat that point and that one had
a crow on top of the cross and Ialways seen my brother in crows
.
We had lost another buddybefore my brother died and he
was would feel him in crows andstuff like that.

(42:43):
So there's always been aconnection there.
And so after that second one,I'm like all right, man, I hear
you talking, man, let's go.
So we got to court and uh, thejudge was like all right, he's
like for some reason I want tooffer this guy a program.
And I'm like he's like, wouldyou be interested in taking a
program?
I was like yes, sir, is that analternative to prison time?
Yeah, absolutely.
So.
I w that wasn't up a program,it hadn't been spoke about and

(43:13):
it was like, for some reason,the judge was just like you know
, I feel like.
I went off from a program I waslike man, let's go.
Yeah, took the program and, um,I'd been through programs
before and seeing how peoplewere successful so I just knew
that like get to the program andjust jump right in and be all
in like volunteer to help out.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Where was the?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
program located.
Just jump right in, be all inlike volunteer to help out.
Where was the program located?
Vista, vista, yeah, it wascalled Choices, choices, choices
in Recovery.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Now is that a halfway house.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
No, it's a residential drug program, so a
lot of they'll have.
They have a lot of people thatcome in that are referred from
the court systems and thenthere's also people that come
there for private.
You know, okay, okay.
So it was a live-in residentialdrug program Rehab, rehab.
Yeah, it was a three-monthresidential and then it would go
to outpatient, okay.
And so I'm there crushing it,doing really good, volunteering

(44:02):
to help out, do everything, justlike fast-tracking.
I was going to be like a housemanager, I was just doing really
good.
And um, a couple of weeks awayfrom graduating the program, and
, um, I'm in the house and theytell me I have a visitor.
And it's like the middle of theweek and we don't have visitors
during the middle of the week.
And so I get up and I look outthe window and I see a bunch of
black vehicles and I'm like, hmm.

(44:22):
And so then I sit back down andI see some dude come in the
house with a badge on his neckand I'm like, oh man, he's like
are you Anthony Autry?
I'm like, yeah, he's like I'm aU S Marshall, I got a federal
warrant for you.
I was like.
I asked him, like, I'm like,what does that mean?
And he's like he's like thatmeans you have to come with us.

(44:47):
And I'm like what's up?
And so I called my attorneywhen I'm in the car and he's
like not good.
I'm like what do you mean notgood?
And he's like not good.
He's like I don't know, butit's not good.
So it turns out the feds havefive years statute of
limitations.
So it was about like threeyears prior roughly that someone
made a control buy off of mefor two ounces.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
And so made a, made a control buy off of you, so you
were the seller, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yep and uh.
And why did they wait so longto snatch you up?
I think cause they seen I wasdone.
You know what I mean.
Like this dude's clean, he's onthe straight and narrow.
Like this guy's not going to bemessing around anymore, whether
I think there was like, okay,well, we need to get this dude
for something, so like we canget them on this, cause they
didn't give me on anything else.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
So and what County was that based out of?
It was here San Diego.
The control by was in San Diego, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, it was here in San Diego, the U S Marshalls
scaffold.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
You, was it the marshals?
Uh, they collect for the feds.
So, um, yeah, they just thoseare the ones that collect.
So then they freaking gaffleyou up.
Yep, well, that's embarrassing,like how do you tell the rehab?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
like it was it was tough man it was like you know,
because things are going reallygood at that point.
At that point I had like eightmonths clean.
So dude yeah, so relationshipsare restored with family, right,
everybody's super proud of me,everybody.
You know I was getting in goodshape.
I was going to the gym all thetime I was just like really
crushing it, um, and so it was atough pill to swallow, um, and

(46:22):
but I like I just I knew that itwas like to me, my opinion,
like everything in this worldcomes down to good versus evil
man.
Yeah, I feel that way 100.
And so I know that it was likeI had been playing for one team
for so long and then now, likeI'm all in, bro, like when I'm
in, I'm in, and so it's like nowit's like okay, like I'm, I'm
on god's side, bro, yeah.
And so I knew that it was justkind of like, you know, the evil

(46:46):
one stopped trying to just getme off course, give me to to.
So I was like, okay, like it'ssomething I did, I take
accountability for it, I takeownership for it, um, and I'm
just going to?

Speaker 1 (46:55):
at what point did you ?
Did they explain to you?
You did a control by threeyears ago and this is what we're
giving you for.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, when I, when I went to court and I talked to
the defense attorney, did youremember that by at?

Speaker 1 (47:05):
all Yup, I did.
Was it any different than anyother?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
it was.
It was like a dude that I knew,was like he had done something
for me, so I kind of owed him afavor.
Yeah, he was like, oh, this ismy home girl.
And I was like fuck dude.
And he was like, oh, I know, Iknow her from the, from the
neighborhood, from, because hewas from up north and this and
that and the other, and I wasjust like I don't know man.

(47:30):
But I was going through it atthat point and I needed as much
money as I could and so I justdid it and I knew and I just had
a bad feeling about it andturned out that I don't know she
was an undercover or something,and so, um, it was initially.
I walked in the courtroom andthey were like cause it's over
50 grams and that can carry amandatory minimum which is 10

(47:51):
years, over 50 grams, over 50grams of meth or heroin with the
feds can carry.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Now, I'm not a mathematician.
Grams and ounces.
Grams 50 grams, but grams andounces.
You said it was two ounces.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, so it was technically.
I just saw the paperwork theother day.
It was like 52.7 grams, Grams,Okay.
So cause I had pinched a littlebit of the two ounces and so it
was just over their 50 gramminimum.
Wow yeah, and so then they were.
They also had a charge that wasa criminal forfeiture, which
was like having things in yourname but I didn't have nothing

(48:26):
in my name.
So, um, I spoke to Jan Ronis,who's a friend of the family.
He's a how many grams is aneight ball Three?

Speaker 1 (48:33):
and a half.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Okay, yeah.
And so uh, jan Ronis, who's afriend of the family, he's a
super attorney, he defended,like the Arellano brothers, uh,
big time guy.
And so uh got on the phone withJan.
I'm like what's up, jan?
And he's like dude, no good.
I'm like what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (48:51):
All these people are telling me no good, I'm like
what?

Speaker 2 (48:52):
the fuck.
And he was like dude, he's likeyou just have to sign.
He's like, if you sign rightnow, they won't impose the
mandatory minimum.
And I'm like, okay, so whatdoes that mean?
He's like I don't know.
He's like but just sign and youwon't get the 10.
I was like, fuck, okay.

(49:15):
So I signed and, um, waiting forsentencing, I went, got housed
in orange county jail there forabout nine months waiting for
sentencing and, uh, I wentthrough.
I was at theo Lacey facilitythere I ended up.
You know I was running one ofthe units there F East.
I ran that unit there.
I got into the trustee unit,ran the trustee unit there for a

(49:39):
while.
They didn't like a guy from LArunning the unit there in Orange
County, of course, but samething, just run a good program.
You know what I mean.
It just makes everybody elserun a better program, so
deputies always supported it.
You know what I mean.
It just makes everybody elserun a better program.
Um, so deputies alwayssupported it.
You know what I mean.
Like I ran a tight ship and soit was like in our unit there
they usually wouldn't turn theTVs on until later and, like on
Sundays, you'd miss some of theearly morning football games.
And so, like in my unit, I'dhave the TVs on early because we

(50:01):
run a good program in there,and so I just always kept a good
relationship with the deputiesbecause we just took care of
business on our end and theyrespected that, you know, and
made their job easier, and soit's just how I operate.
You know, I've always had likea pretty good relationship with
with the authorities, justbecause it's it's a mutual
respect, there's a line thereand we don't cross it.
But it's like you already.
You already know what I'mtalking about.
So, um, it was in orange Countywaiting to get sentenced.

(50:25):
Uh, finally they sentenced me.
Um, the uh, the prosecution,kind of.
Seen what was up, I think theysaw that I was in the rehab, I'm
clean, changed my life, uh.
So they offered me 90 months.
I tried to ask him for like 50months and the judge was like no
, uh, what does 90 months equateto?
Uh, shoot, I don't even knowthat's.

(50:45):
Uh, I ended up.
I ended up getting 77 months,which was six and a half years.
God damn dude.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, for two ounces of dope.
You got sentenced for six and ahalf years For two ounces of
dope In the feds, in the feds.
How much time did you end up?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
doing so, I got the RDAT program, which is
Residential Drug Abuse Program,which is a year-long program but
it gives you a year off yoursentence and you do that at the
end of your term, and so I gotthat, uh.
So that ended up sending meonly a few facilities in the
Western region have the RDATprogram, so I ended up going to
FCI Sheridan, which is a mediumfacility in Oregon, uh, where

(51:20):
they have the RDAT program.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
So you did fed time in Oregon.
Yup, how was five years way outfreaking years, five years.
How was that dude, crazy dude.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Why because you got like you know feds are a little
different.
It's like everybody wouldalways tell me just keep your
blinders on there.
You know what I mean.
Because me it's like where I'mfrom, from la, like we run a
tight program and so it's likeeverything is kind of segregated
, but not like people like, likelike in LA County, like you

(51:51):
don't play cards with otherraces.
So it was a looser program, amuch looser program and that's
why they say keep her blind.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
On it You're a lot see a lot of shit you don't
agree with or it's foreign toyou Absolutely 100%.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
So it was a real learning experience.
I just kind of kept to myself,you know I didn't, you know,
didn't you know, I still kind ofran my normal program yeah you
know so which?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
but there was like how many other people were
running a tight fucking program?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
uh, a few, a few.
There was, you know some, butthere was a lot of man, there
was a lot of.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
You know, what's really bad in the feds is the is
the spice well then, now thatisn't really fucking bad in the
state as well, dude.
Okay, yeah, it's.
You seem to get fucked likelose their mind.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Epi and out.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Epi and out is like a psychotic episode did you ever
see the guards getting get intoit with the guys on spice and
try to subdue them?

Speaker 2 (52:35):
oh yeah, it sucks, dude, it's horrible dude, it
sucks man.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it'scrazy man.
You see guys, epi and out allthe time.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
That's a big thing in there they're hallucinating,
they're throwing up, they'refucking screaming, they're naked
.
Yeah, all that Dude.
All the time you got to fuckingwrestle them and put them in
handcuffs, man.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Dude.
It'd be a regular occurrence.
At least once a week or twice aweek somebody would be epiing
out and they'd lock everybodydown.
Yeah, it was crazy.
And then you see all thesedudes that you could tell they
just lie to their family andtheir family puts all their

(53:13):
money on their books and it'slike you know, it's like these
families are going through itout here trying to like make
money and put it on their booksand these dudes go to commissary
load up and they go to the dopeman's house dope man sell,
unload all their commissary andit's just like you know, that's
one thing that I never respected.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Now that you bring that up, the dudes that are
hustling their family members toput money on their books for
dope when the family members arestruggling out here.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Yeah, because everybody's struggling out here
yeah, I, I don't like it either.
It really bothered me, man, soI just really I wouldn't, that's
like I just kept to myself, ranmy own program, like I mean, I
ran, I ran the program.
I didn't run, like you know,but like I wouldn't associate
with a lot of people.
You, you know.
Yeah, it was interesting man.
I was in the unit there.
Big Meech was in my unit man.
He just got back recently.

(53:54):
He was a pretty good dude, rana good program.
You know, we'd, you know we'reall just like.
I'd be up early and I'd beworking out.
He'd be working out too, withhis little few dudes that he'd
work out with.
We'd go to the yard, I'd gostraight to the pull-up bar,
he'd go straight to the pull-upbar too.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Now were you guys racially segregated there in
Oregon?
In the feds.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah, it's still racially segregated for the most
part.
You have, like, in a unityou'll have like five TVs and
each race will have their own TV, and you have an MP3 player or
a radio and you can tune in andyou hear the TV that way, damn,
every race has a TV there.
Yeah, wow, dude, for the mostpart.
But, like where I landed at andthe unit I landed, sometimes

(54:35):
you'll have two TVs.
Like if you have a big, like ifa race is really big, you'll
have two TVs Right, and so theunit I landed in we only had one
TV, although we had a lot ofpeople in our car, and that's
because the dude that was thereprior had a dope debt and sold
the TV off to the other raceyeah.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yeah, so after you serve out your sentence, you're
still sober.
You're clean this whole time,yeah, and then what happens?
You get out.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah, so I'm doing the program, the RDAP program.
I was a mentor in that programand you have four months halfway
house that you have to do.
So I got out and within thefirst month I got home
confinement like house arrest,just because I just was doing
everything I was supposed to do.
I was talking to my casemanager hey, what do I need to
do?
What do I need to do to get, toget home?

Speaker 1 (55:20):
confinement Because you have an ankle monitor.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah, we've got an ankle monitor and so when I get
the first night, I get to thehalfway house.
So this was a real trip.
I get out Going to the feds,you would go on con air.
So it was like straight out themovies.
Man, you're shackled up.
There's dudes on the tarmacwith ARs.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
No way bro.
Straight up, bro, you left thatpart out, man.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah yeah.
So it's like con air, straight,con air going there.
They let some people off, getback on.
What does the inside of theplane look like?
Hollowed out.
It's like a.
It's a commercial plane butit's kind of hollowed out and
just has the seats.
It's kind of weird, yeah.
But then there's dudes.
There's, there's, you know,marshals every like like six

(56:02):
rows throughout the plane, armedor not armed.
I don't know if they're armedor not.
I don't think they Any Um armedor not armed, I don't know if
they're armed or not.
I don't think they.
Any cages in there no, therewas no cages, not like buses,
you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, um, it'sConair there, and then they give
you your itinerary and it waslike the dudes that take you in

(56:22):
the van from the meet, themedium, where I was at.
They're all from the camp, andthese dudes at the camp it's
like Disneyland over there.
I mean, they got everythingthere, right Alcohol, cigarettes
, they have like prostitutes,all sorts of stuff.
And so one of these dudes inthe van takes us to the airport
and they drop you off and youhave X amount of time to get
from there to the halfway house.

(56:43):
And so it was like we took theplane my first plane.
There was a connecting flight.
I almost missed the connectingflight because the times were so
close.
Landed here in San Diego andthen they say you can't take an
Uber, you have to take publictransportation, and there's all
this construction at the airport.
Yeah, and so I mean weliterally just made it to the
halfway house before our timewas up.
Like it was crazy, and like I'mwalking up to the halfway house

(57:06):
and I seen my mom.
That was the first time I seenmy mom in like five years man,
which was rough.
You know what I mean, becausepeople are older, they age a lot
quicker.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
You know.
And so, yeah, that was realtough, but I was just doing
everything I was supposed to do.
Got home confinement within thefirst month, so went home.
I just took the same program Iran in there of like being up
early.
I used to get up mad early.
Like I used to get up three orfour in the morning, read my
Bible, stretch, uh, bust down,do a workout, all before the

(57:40):
door opened.
And uh, ran that program for along time, for years, you know
you still wake up early today?
Uh, I I do.
Just recently.
Over the last month, man, Ihaven't been sleeping good and
so I've been sleeping until likesix or so, lately depending,
but usually I'm always up sameor right, you know, when it's

(58:00):
dark out, get up, run the sameprogram, you know I still get up
.
Get in my Bible, read someother stuff I journal, journal,
gratitude that's pretty muchwhere I'm at.
Just, I'm grateful todaybecause of everything I've been
through you know so.
I live in like gratitude,absolutely, and I just keep it
authentic.
Bro.
I, just like you know, Istarted running this program out

(58:21):
here.
I was up early, going to thegym.
I started working at theIronworkers Union, so I'd be at
the gym at like two.
I'd be at the yard wrenchingiron at like six 30, do that all
day.
Then I started going to victory.
MMA started rolling doingjujitsu, so I'd roll in the
afternoon, then I'd go home andjust repeat that.
I did that for like eightmonths no social media, nothing.

(58:43):
And then a guy I met was like,hey, there's people online, uh,
doing what you do, cause Ialways try to help people too,
you know.
And he was like, hey, this iswhat guys do.
And I'm like, oh, okay, so Istarted checking it out and, um,
I decided to just jump in.
Man, being selfless, helpingothers, absolutely yeah.

(59:03):
And that's one thing I alwaystalk about too is like investing
in oneself is a very selflessthing and people don't
understand that it's like.
But by doing so and investingin myself, whether it's
financially or just gettingmyself, I call it improper
alignment.
You know what I mean getting my, my faith dialed in, having
been dialed in emotionally,mentally, physically.

(59:24):
You know, getting in properalignment, running a good
program motivates others to runa better program themselves and
motivates others to do better.
You know what I mean.
So when I talk to people aboutgetting on this program and
bettering themselves, I say it'sa very selfless thing.
Absolutely, a hundred percent.
A lot of people struggle tograsp that, though it's good, oh
, I get it, man.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah, so where can people find you dude, on social
media?

Speaker 2 (59:47):
So on IG it's's unchained underscore fit.
I have a YouTube that I've juststarted doing.
It's at GFC dash, autry, andthen I just started a TikTok as
well.
There's links on everythingthere.
So, if you, ig is my main thing, that's where I do all my
marketing, that's where I talkto everybody at.
Yeah, I'll link it in thebottom For sure For you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, with all your life experiences.
Dude, good and bad man, whatclosing final words do you have
for the world to hear, dude?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
You know, if I'm able to do it with all the crap I've
done, man, then you can do ittoo, and you just really have to
make.
Nobody can make anybody doanything.
You know, all we have controlover is ourselves, and you have
control over yourself, and soyou just have to make the
decision to invest in yourself,find discipline.

(01:00:44):
Discipline is where it's at,man, and the biggest thing
really is to just take action.
Period Like, take action, goLike, stop reading about it,
stop researching it, stop doingall that stuff and actually do
something about it.
So the biggest thing I can sayis just take action, man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Can you elaborate on the taking action part, because
I know exactly what you'retalking about.
A lot of people talk a goodgame or come up with a million
excuses of why they can't do it,shouldn't do it.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Yeah, uh.
So best thing I can, best way Ican relate, it is like today
I'm 42 years old and so I reallyknow what decision needs to be
made in whatever situation thatcomes up.
And it's like so today we'regrown adults, we know what we're
supposed to do, so just do whatyou're supposed to do.

(01:01:34):
Like fuck your feelings, fuckwhat you're going through, and
just make the right choice anddo that daily.
Like focus on today.
Like take what tangible choicesyou have.
Like you can control what foodyou eat, you can control whether
you work out or not, right, sofocus.
So, focus on today.
Make the right, just make thechoices that you're supposed to
make.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Fuck your feelings, do what you're supposed to what
would you say for people thatare hesitant or don't act due to
being heavily influenced byoutsiders opinions?

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
probably one of the most liberating things that I've
come across myself is tofinally stop caring what other
people think.
Absolutely, dude, yeah, it'sbeen that.
That's been probably the one ofthe biggest freeing things, uh,
and then also forgiveness.
I'll touch, I'll.
I'll end on that.
Forgiveness is huge, uh, once Ilearned to to forgive myself,

(01:02:29):
it was a very freeing thing.
And then learning to forgiveothers, like I've learned to
forgive the dude that murderedmy brother.
I've learned to forgive myparents for, for I know they did
the best that they could, andso finding forgiveness has also
been a huge thing too.
And making amends Absolutely,100% man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Cool dude.
Well, it was an honor havingyou on here, bro.
Glad you were able to shareyour story, dude, and this is
why we do what we do, man, tohelp others, absolutely so.
Thanks for coming on the showman, yeah, thanks for having me
on there.
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Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Thank you.