Austin Hancock - From Marine to Real Estate Investor: Courage, Transition, and Financial Independence - Hector Bravo UNHINGED

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
hector, bravo.
Unhinged chaos is now insession.
Welcome back to our channels,warriors, we are still growing.
Today, another special guest,another banger man.
This dude rolled up in a badassride.

(00:21):
I had to open up the parkinggarage for him.
We have none other than austinhancock in the house.
What's up?
Had to open up the parkinggarage for him.
We have none other than AustinHancock in the house.
What's up, dude?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
What's up, man?
Thanks for having me on yourpodcast.
Thanks for showing up, man Forsure Good to connect with
like-minded people.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Definitely.
Yeah, we were chopping it upbeforehand.
And Austin the former Marine,right, there's no such thing as
the ex-Marine, that's right.
Former Marine, former Iraq Warveteran yes, sir, and now just
fricking, thriving in businessand in life.
Thanks brother.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, bro.
So you said you were originallyfrom Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, so born and raised.
I mean, I was born in Kansasbut my parents moved to Oklahoma
when I was eight.
So when you were eight it'spretty much grew up in Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
All right Were you.
Were you like a hyper kid backthen?
Cause I want to get into themindset.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
You know I tell people this I grew up, you know,
with the pretty middle class.
You know bread and butterfreaking conservative family.
You know riding my bicycle.
Like you've seen the moviesandlot.
That was kind of like my life,like I had a great suburban life
like a good kid, you know we'repretty much the same age.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, were you doing stunts?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
on the bike.
Oh yeah, do we jump each otherlike?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
we dig dirt jumps, and then you'd lay down I jump
you, and then we do it you knowthat the whole group of us.
That's how it was.
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, bro, of course I'm trying to see like there's
skating you know, bike riding,whatever you can do, swimming in
the summers absolutely swimmingin canals.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Did you guys ever swim in canals?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
yeah, there was.
There's creeks and everythingbehind that in the forest.
We just get lost.
We were just kids, I mean atthat time, you know, in early
2000s and all the 90s and evenbefore that.
But when we grew up you could,you know, your parents just let
you go and then when thestreetlights came on, you had to
check in a lot of times orfigure it out.
Call from a friend's phone.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
It builds character.
Yeah, it does A lot of freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
At that young of age you know a lot of responsibility
.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Elaborate on that?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, a lot of freedom as in like no cell
phones tied to you, no GPS cantrack you, nobody's videoing you
, like I mean all the stupidshit you do as a kid and it
could be like harmless stuff butit's a big deal to you.
You know hitting, you knowthrowing sticks, rocks, you name
it yeah, egging houses yeahyeah, teepeeing, knocking on
your buddy's doors, you knowrunning.

(02:22):
How were you in school as far asgrades-wise?
I mean, I'm a C student, dude.
On average right, some classeswere A's.
I mean I always got A's in woodtech, always got A's in PE, but
when it came to really sittingdown and being good at math and
stuff, you know I was a Cstudent.
I wasn't intrigued in it.
Honestly, I think it's one ofthose things that I thought back
onto it.
I was like if they would havetaught me that I needed money
and the money would have got methe things that I wanted, and

(02:44):
put a dollar sign in front ofthe math, maybe I would have
learned it faster.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
You were probably a C student because you didn't
apply yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I mean, I'm sure if you applied yourself, you would
have been a fucking A.
Some of that stuff doesn't comeeasy to me.
I just didn't.
I wasn't interested in it, man.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, that's nice, bro.
I've seen similarities.
Dude, at what point did youdecide to join the Marine Corps?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
So I always wanted to be in the military.
Like I feel like since I waswatching the Rambo movies as a
kid I was, you know, savingPrivate Ryan came out when we
were I think we're in highschool-ish, middle, maybe it was
middle school all these moviesyou know associated with it but
like I've always wanted to be inthe military of some capacity.
I would go to the library andtalk about not being a good
student, but I would go to thelibrary and I would check out

(03:26):
like Navy SEAL books, marinebooks, army books.
I got really hooked on, sinceyou're an Army guy.
I got really hooked on for awhile being an Army Ranger
because I was like I want tojump out of planes.
I had this infatuation withlike jumping out of an airplane
with a parachute.
I was like that's super sick,that's some bad dudes.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
man, I want to do that commando style that's crazy
, bro, because I got hooked oncarlos hathcock, the famous
sniper from vietnam.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Bro, with a feather, dude, that's sick and I didn't
think much about the marineshonestly at that time.
No, um, I don't know why, Iguess I I just didn't think much
about it but did you have?
Any knowledge on the military.
Oh yeah, I knew it, dude.
I knew weapon systems before Iwas in the military at all.
Yeah, I studied it that much.
I was kind of a nerd, like Iknew I would watch World War II
documentaries sometimes and Iwas like yeah, really.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I was like a war junkie.
So you made the consciousdecision to join the Marine
Corps.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, so funny enough.
So all the—I was a good kidthroughout my childhood.
You know, here and there,fistfights, trouble, normal boy
shit, um.
But senior year I got myself ina lot of trouble.
Before, before I graduated highschool, I got my hat, I landed
two felonies and twomisdemeanors.
Felonies, yeah, yeah, I wasn'tever convicted, but I was, uh, I
was charged.
So you were charged, yeah, butI was never convicted while you

(04:36):
were a senior in high school.
I was 17 years old, so I gottried as a youthful offender and
I was a senior in high schoolnow did, did that affect your
schooling?
No, surprisingly, it didn'taffect my schooling, but what it
did do is it paved the way formy little sister to go through
high school.
So the reason I say that isbecause what I did was
essentially I was at a party.
Honest story short, I was at aparty and I got jumped at the

(04:57):
party.
You and I go out back, it'sjust a college party and I was
the youngest there.
We're the youngest guys there,we're high school kids and I got
jumped, just punched and beatup and then, you know, surprise
attack, essentially for somereason, and we come back.
We left, we come back.
And then I stroked this dudeover a head with a tire iron,
busted out his windows andreally sought revenge with my
boys and I got going into theproperty.

(05:21):
I got burglary one because Ijust walked into the house, but
I didn't steal anything.
You know what I mean.
And I got assault with a deadlyweapon for hitting the guy over
the head.
Damn, but yeah.
So I led a pretty solid senioryear for my poor parents.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Now they charge you with assault with a deadly
weapon?
Did they charge you withattempted murder first and bring
you down?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
No, they didn't, Fortunately they didn't.
No, that's a good, because Iwas 17.
Yeah, yeah, because I was goingto get tried as a youthful
offender.
So I was looking at going to ajuvenile delinquent center for
like a minimum of six months.
Because I was kind of the lead,because I was the one that got
jumped, I brought the guys backlike come on, hector, let's go
bro.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
So I was kind of the antagonist to bring my homies
with me.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
But I was the youngest one, my that and so,
but I was going to get, I wasgoing to try to be a youthful
offender and at that time I waslike dude, I really wanted to
join the military.
And that summer I was workingconstruction, like I did every
summer growing up, working formy dad's company, doing concrete
work, tying rebar, you know,learning how to trim houses.
Whatever was needed, I would doit.
And I learned that high schoolyears, yeah.

(06:24):
And so I was working with thisguy and he's like dude, you
should join the Marines.
And he wanted to join theMarines.
His dad was in the Marines, hisbrother was in the Marines but
he couldn't join because hebusted his jaw bull riding and
he had steel plates in his jaw.
And then that was back in theeighties, you know older guy,
and he goes you should join theMarines.
And I was like, dude, I got allthis shit going on and he was
giving me some good life advice,right, like I didn't think
about it.
That's just this old timer oldguy that I worked with, that was

(06:47):
you know cool older guy, thatconstruction, um.
But he was right, he could seewhere I was going, what I was
doing and who I was hanging out.
And he was like, yeah, dude,you need to join, you should go
to the Marines, that'd be thebest place for you.
And he said something to methat's huge.
That I think helped change mylife because and this can go
into a longer conversation buthe said don't tell anybody, you

(07:09):
know, because my parents werealready strung out with it.
They're already upset.
I come from a very conservativehousehold no alcohol, church on
Sundays, you know it's.
My parents never really got introuble.
They owned their ownconstruction business.
My dad was a college graduate,like very square people, like in
all good sense of ways.
So I didn't want for, I didn'tneed for anything.
They're always there likemiddle-class good people.

(07:31):
You know, smart.
I mean they're still togethertoday.
My parents are married, likeboth sides of my grandparents
have been married, you know,until one passed, and so I come
from that kind of background.
And then I go and do this andit's like, oh dude, he's going
to go to prison, he's going,he's getting like.
I got a tattoo senior year.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, like the black sheep of the family.
Yeah, I get felonies.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I'm doing all this, and so they think it's over.
They're like, they're like wantmore control, they're like
putting the hammer down on me.
And so I just dialed up therecruiter, went to the Marine
Corps recruiter's office andtalked to him and, dude,
fortunately, like things happenfor a reason, god is there, the
universe, it aligns, and therecruiter staff sergeant he used

(08:17):
to, his dad, used to be thechief of police if I can spit it
out of my mouth chief of policefor the town that I lived in.
So, yeah, and so back when hegrew up, and so he was just
there on recruiting duty and herequested that area because he
grew up around it.
You know what I'm saying.
And so, anyways, he's like,yeah, I'll go with your attorney
.

(08:37):
I had an attorney, I waslawyered up, I mean, I'm going
through the whole thing insenior year and he goes, I'll go
with your attorney, me, therecruiter and my attorney go to
the judge.
And this is after two or three.
You know, trial takes a coupleof times, multiple times, and
I'm just sitting there, I can'tdo much, until it's my time to
speak, which we didn't get tothat point.
And so we're like, austin'sgoing to join the Marine Corps.
You know, if he falls throughwith everything he does what he
says, he's like old school bro.

(08:58):
Charges get expunged, holy shitman.
Yeah, they wrote on my like youcould look me up on OCN,
because when I was starting tomake money and be as an
entrepreneur and go do bankingand lending, they'd be like when
they would do their backgroundsearch.
I'd have to be like, all right,and this is like years after

(09:32):
today and they're like, oh, okay, so it maths out oh, this
conversation just got a hell ofa lot of interest.
Yeah, it's wild bro and so uh,yeah, so anyways, I did that.
And then my recruiter ends upgoing to freaking court for me
and with me, and then I that I,we make the deal and I shoot off
to boot camp in 2006 I thinkwhat played in your favor.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
And you're right, everything does happen for a
reason.
It was that surge in iraq.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Exactly what I tell people.
They're wavering people leftand right.
They were like pump as manypeople out there as possible.
Absolutely.
They're like well, the kid'sgonna go to juvie or he's gonna
go to war shit, send him to warif he wants to go to war.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, we need dudes in war right now.
I think it was bush at the timefucking that's it was a huge.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
It was a huge surge.
I remember that.
I mean, that was part of ityeah, I mean there was a ton of
dudes that were getting waveredin through boot camp and shit so
let's fast forward to the surge.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Um oh, six iraq.
Coming from your experience,your background, did you enjoy
that experience or did you feelat home being in the marine
corps?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
yeah, I did so.
Like I mean, honestly, joiningthe marines was the best thing
for me because that's what Ineeded.
Like I went from like fistfighting, drinking as a high
schooler which was leading menowhere, good, hanging out with
the wrong people, wrong crowds,chasing tail, and then I joined
the marines and it was likethat's all that everybody does,
but it's harnessed.
You know what I mean.

(10:46):
So it was harnessed and shapedand so I felt like you know, I
tell people this I'm like theMarine Corps.
I was like reborn in the MarineCorps.
Like I knew a bunch of thingsabout life because I'd been
working and I'd grew up inconstruction.
Like I had a lot of skillsalready as a young man from
doing things, but the MarineCorps was a really good place
because I got to meet peoplelike you, like like-minded
people.
It's very similar to what wetalked about off the show,

(11:08):
talked about how podcasts andsocial media can draw people
together that are like-minded.
Well, that being a Marine,being a Marine is like oh, we
all wanted to be that, and sonow you have a lot of
commonality with people fromTexas, new Jersey, wherever in
the United States states, andthat was awesome.
I loved it.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I was where I wanted to be, yeah especially at that
time frame, things hadn't takenthe far drastic left woke.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh, no, man, like, uh , like, we talked a little bit
off camera.
Um, my drill instructors werefreaking purple hearts, fallujah
vets, oh, they all came back.
So in 2006 they're all comingback and I mean I got guys with
a pretty large rap sheet of youknow, combat, I mean I mean
fallujah marines, and they'renow they're drill instructors

(11:51):
because they get sent to thedrill field because they picked
up sergeant um, and so it's adifferent type of preparation
for boot camp absolutely, bro.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
and let's think about the generations right, the
generations of the vietnamveterans that were drill
instructors or drill sergeantsfor oh yeah.
I was just thinking for you tohave been trained by Fallujah
War veterans.
Bro, that's Marines.
That's a huge fucking deal.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
There was hardcore.
Boot camp was hardcore.
This is my initial, so fory'all that don't know Marine
Corps boot camp.
Marine Corps boot camps 13weeks long.
First week is receiving, soeverybody just gets in mcrd
right here in san diego, okay,and west coast marine, uh.
And so we check in first weekis is just receiving.
You're just like paperwork, youknow, making sure you're
squared away.
You got all your medicalbullshit, uh.
And then you pick up, and thatfirst day you pick up is that

(12:34):
friday, and they call it blackfriday in the marine corps boot
camp, and so everybody, that'swhen the drill instructors get
introduced to you.
They do their whole thing andthen they just thrash you,
thrash you for the entire day.
They just throw your footlocker, they throw all your shit
around.
They're trying to justcompletely scramble your brain
and make you second guess whyyou're even here.
It's all psychological and it'sgreat.
It's needed, especially for menthat are going to go to war,

(12:55):
people that are going to go towar.
And so Black Friday we'refreaking doing the thing,
carrying our footlockers out, inand out, in and out, getting
yelled at, getting spit on,getting pushed over, getting
bashed over the heads onaccident.
You know all these things.
You know how it is.
And we're outside with our footlockers and I'm looking up.
I'm looking up and I'm wearingso, for I'm in the barracks,

(13:15):
right, and there's a three-storybarracks and at the very top
floor this is San Diego, sothere's no air conditioning,
there's only old heater heaterunits.
And there the windows are halfcracked open, like they slant
forward like old governmentbuildings, right, barracks.
And so I'm looking up andeverybody else is getting the
same treatment in our, in ourcompany, right, so my platoon,

(13:36):
and then there's multipleplatoons inside the company and
on each floor is a differentplatoon, right, and so you're
looking up, that floor isgetting fucked up.
These guys are getting thrashedLike all these kids.
I call them kids because we'rereally young, you know, I'm
freaking 18, 19, 18 years oldthis time.
Most Marines are very young and, um, I remember the oldest dude
in our, in our, uh, platoon,was 26.
And I was like bro, he's sofucking old, like why are you

(13:57):
here?
Yeah, yeah.
And so we're carrying our footlockers out.
The drill instructors make ustake them out, dump them out,
put them back together, takethem out, put them back in.
And so we're heading back intothe house, into the squad bay,
and I look up and this freakingrecruit jumps out of the third
story window and tries to killhimself right through the
fucking glass, lands like 10feet away from me with my
footlocker in my hands, on.

(14:17):
All the rest of us are doingthe same, all of us recruits,
and the drill instructor justlooks over and looks at him
after he smashed.
He's like good, I hope youfucking die, I hope he fucking
dies.
And we're all like, oh my god,bro, it's over for me holy shit,
I've heard of stories like thatyeah, boot camp was like that
you know, did he fucking jumpthrough the?
window.
He jumped through it.
He just like saw theopportunity and said I want the

(14:38):
fuck out, probably a lot.
You know how it is.
I mean, I'm assuming you guyswent through the same similar
stuff but people they want outand they don't.
There's no really way out.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Like the military is not letting you out.
I was about to say that thereis no getting out.
There's no, getting out whathappens is now they're on
suicide watch and now you got toput them in the kill zone and
we got to do security fuckingfire watch on them.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yes, to like real medical help and the tele can
get processed and then throughprocessing like they might as
well gone through boot camp,because it takes the same amount
of time if you're thinkingabout during the military.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
You want out.
Do not try to do anythingretarded.
You're not getting out.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
No, no, especially during boot camp.
Like the objective during bootcamp is you're not, it's like
you're not getting out, you knowand so, but these guys, they'll
do that.
They'll like claim suicide,they'll try to kill themselves
and all this stuff and they'llget med stepped out and it's
good.
Like I talked to my drillinstructors now and they, they,
they did that.
Like, uh, one of my drillinstructors actually I've talked
to a couple of them since I'vebeen out one of them jumped on

(15:32):
my program and started doingsome badass shit.
But uh, he was like, yeah, thatwas our goal.
Our goal is to break peoplethere because we knew that 99 of
you guys were going straight tofreaking war that we just got
back from.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Absolutely so 100?
Yeah, I don't say they takeyour boot.
Laces away too if you'resuicidal yeah, they do.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
You'll see them stomping around 100 and they put
them in a jumpsuit in themarine corps so they look like
they're in a flight suit or afucking orange vest bro yeah, so
you go to iraq.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
How was that experience?
Did you uh?
Did it change you in any way asa person?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
yeah, you know, at the time I didn't think it did.
It's funny because I went toiraq in 2007 and in 2008 and I
didn't see like heavy combat,like I wasn't like freaking the
movies right.
I mean there was definitely popshots, there was ieds and stuff
but I was fortunate more directmore.
I mean, yeah, all sorts ofrandom things like that, um, but

(16:24):
for I'm very fortunate that wecame home with everybody in our
platoon and in our company aswell.
And you know you wish that, youwant to challenge yourself, you
want to go to war.
That's what you think in yourhead, but the reality is like
I'm grateful for nobody gettinginjured and nothing happening,
right so.
But you're still under a lot ofpressure and a lot of stress
for a long period of timebecause you have a job to do.

(16:46):
You're worried about thefucking IEDs going off, you're
sweeping, you're clearing houses, you're going on operations and
you're just highly stressed out.
I mean, in a good way, it'swhat you wanted to do for your
job.
It is what it is.
But you know, being 19 years oldat the time that I was in Iraq
and I have a I'm a 249 machinegunner, so I'm a saw gunner and
we're pulling adults out oftheir cars.
I mean, you're pulling peopleout of their cars.

(17:08):
You take a big role in.
You're going from oh, you'rejust a 19-year-old in the United
States if you were just on thestreets as a civilian, to now
you're a 19-year-old and you'rein control of like these adults,
this family, this car, thisstop, this TTP, you know this,
this, you know transition point,things like that, and so you

(17:32):
kind of get it's intense right,like you know.
And so what we did was likestandard operating procedures
when we were in Iraq where carshad to stop when we would drive
through, so seven ton would pumpthrough and then three vehicles
, humvees, would come behind it,and that's, that was our convoy
.
We were a pretty small convoyand everybody had to get out of
their car.
We would do pin flares, popshots, make them get out bull
horns you know a whole nineyards man you're the king of the
road and uh, but during thetime that I was in Iraq, we were

(17:55):
actually transitioning andpulling back on the standard
operating procedures, trying toget the Iraqi army to take more
of a role and the Iraqi policeto have a little more control
and to give them back theirterritory and pull outside the
city.
Um, but that, all that beingsaid, coming back home, you know
I, I went back home and Istarted and I got out swiftly

(18:15):
after that, and so now I'mhanging out with friends from
high school again, but they'reall young 19, 20 years old, 21.
We're partying again.
It went right back to that, um,and I have my mindset's
completely different, bro.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Probably had your money saved up from your
deployment.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
The smartest thing I did, I did buy a house.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
So I bought a house at 21.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Uh, I got a roommate.
He helped me.
He was helping me essentially,he was paying half the mortgage
or more, um, and so that waskind of my first real estate.
We'll get into that in a minute.
Absolutely Venture, but stilllike just doing, you know, these
stupid shit drinking, partying,yeah, living more of a bachelor
life at this time.
And I got in a lot of fightsafter that too, did you?

(18:56):
I'm fortunate that I never gotlike in trouble again, yeah, but
just picking fights, doingstupid shit, just drinking
alcohol.
I struggled a lot, um, that Ididn't even know that I
struggled with until I lookedback upon it like almost 10
years later, bro.
Um, with just like really beinghigh, strong, you know, and
then being worried about thestupidest things.

(19:16):
You know, I say stupid things,but this is what happens.
You know me driving down theroad and be worried about a box,
thinking my mind was thinkingdifferent than my friends were
from high school and I couldtell and I lost a lot of friends
, bro.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I still think that to this day.
Bro, if I see trash, a box oreven a parked car on the side of
the road, first thought is ID,yeah 100% First thought, then I
think to myself oh, that wasfucked.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Why it is how it is.
I mean because it's soingrained into your brain and it
is such a life or death.

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So did your record get expungedwhen you got out, or that
didn't ever happen.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
It expunged like essentially while I was in, but
you could still see it like afully erased, I think one at a
time period.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Okay, cool, cool.
Now you said you werestruggling.
Did you ever get in serioustrouble or were you able to
bounce?
Were you able to bounce intosuccess at that period in time?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
So I think I could have easily gotten in serious
trouble.
I think it missed me.
There was many of times, um,that I was doing things that
would that I should have orcould have, if I would have been
caught, gotten in serioustrouble again and would have
gone right back down to where itwas um, but fortunately I
didn't.
And, uh, this isn't likehurting people or fighting
anymore, but just dumb shitdrinking, driving, freaking,
rolling vehicles over and likejust doing heinous, stupid shit,

(20:48):
bar stuff.
There's even I.
I went back to construction,that's all I knew that's what I
was.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Next question was gonna ask you what were you
doing for a living?

Speaker 2 (20:56):
yeah, no, I was just doing construction, working for
my dad again uh, growing, youknow.
So I was.
Now I started trying to move upa little bit, do a little more,
make a little more.
Money is really what I wantedto do.
My dad's not one of those guysthat's going to give me.
You know, you can be a projectmanager, you're working with the
crew, you're making an hourlypay.
You're dying the rebar, youknow, and that's good.
I'm glad, because it pushed meto want more.
But like I got back where Irode bulls.

(21:25):
Like amateur bulls, yeah, tostart getting into it.
The eight second yeah bulls,yeah, like bucking them out of
the freaking chutes andeverything.
I did that for a little bitbecause I went down that rodeo
scene.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
You were just doing like looking for an adrenaline
rush.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
I was looking for an adrenaline rush.
I was looking for an adrenalinerush because after you get out
of the Marine Corps, I meanlife's so fast.
When you're in there, you'redoing stuff, you're moving,
things are happening, you, youknow, uh, you feel like life's
really, you're living it Right.
And then when you get back andif you have a job, even if it's
a construction job and it's notlike a desk job, you're still
just like the mundane cycle ofthe same thing over and over.

(22:01):
I feel was this, and that's whatvets struggle with a lot, and I
try to provide as much clarityand help for them on this.
It's the I'll never be as goodas I once was syndrome, you know
, and it's like because we didall this cool shit or you did
all these things, you have theseaccolades.
And then you get out, and thenyou're like and I didn't even
stay in that long, but there'llbe dudes that stay in 10, 15, 20
years lifers.
And then they get out and maybethey were this bad-ass Marine

(22:24):
or bad-ass soldier or whatever.
They have all these accolades.
And then it's like okay, nowyou have to work here at Walmart
behind the desk because youhave no other credibility.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
And they feel that they don't have that identity
anymore or they lost theiridentity.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
They lose themselves.
They lose their identitybecause their entire identity is
attached to that.
A hundred percent Correct, yeah, and I, and I didn't have that
because I was got out young, youknow in and out type deal, but
uh, yeah, I struggled but I'mgoing back.
What kept me back in line, gotme back in line, was when I met
my wife.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Was this all around the same timeframe that you were
doing construction?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, so I got out of the Marine Corps like 21 and
then I met my wife at 23.
And so there's about a two yearspan of bachelor and it up with
my roommate and the drink youknow drinking and problems and
doing construction Right, and Ireally didn't want for more
because I was making, you know,hourly pay typical construction

(23:15):
guy.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Enough to buy beer on the weekend, enough for a truck
.
Elaborate on that mindset.
Elaborate on that mindsetbecause I feel that 98% of
Americans are stuck in thatmindset.
They are I have a job, I canafford beer, I'm paying the
bills.
Elaborate on that mindset andwhat it feels like to be stuck.
It's the biggest trap.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know, you hear all these rags to riches stories
and now that I speak toaudiences and I coach a lot of
people, these rags to richesstories, the zero to hero story
we really love that as Americans.
And I love it too.
Foreigner that comes fromnothing to freaking
multimillionaire, or guy thatwas beat up in high school.
Now he's a professional fighter.

(23:51):
Whatever it is.
We love that story.
It's something I think we wereas humans we find passionate.
But what gets glossed over isthe comfort zone of just being
okay with where you're at, andso so many people get stuck,
whether it's financially most ofthe time it's financially
attached but with their ownmindset and own limiting beliefs

(24:12):
, that this is enough.
Like you said, I have enoughmoney for beer on the weekend.
I drive a pretty cool truck andI can fix it.
You know, maybe some wheels andtires whatever it is, all sorts
of shit for my super trucks, youknow, back in the day and then
and I like cars like not, not,not any disadvantage to that,
you should get what you want.
But you get stuck and then likemaybe they even move up in
their job and they go from.

(24:32):
For example, for me, maybe Imove up to a project manager and
now I'm making a salary, maybea little bit more money, and
then I get a three bedroom, twobath house and now I'm locked
into a 30 year mortgage and thenI have a wife and then I have
kids.
And then now what happens isfear sets in, the fear of
leaving all of that, the fear offailure, the fear, fear of
these things that you feelyou've worked so hard for which

(24:54):
you have like and you've.
The problem is, like in myscenario with construction, you
work really hard for it, like,physically, like trucks, truck
driving, freaking, shoveling.
When you're starting out, youknow late nights, early mornings
.
So you're working physicallyreally hard to make that dollar,
so that dollar has much morevalue to you at that point in

(25:16):
your life and so you're soscared to lose what you have
that you're not willing to takethe next step and risk it on the
line again to go through theglass ceiling, to break the next
barrier, to figure out more,and so that's where people get
really stuck, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
But how much of the government system play a role in
, you know, creating thishamster on the wheel, as I call
it.
I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
it's an ingenious business model, to be honest,
like if you're the government orhigh paying jobs or companies.
It's an ingenious model to keeppeople in there and there's a
need for it.
Not everybody needs to be anentrepreneur.
Not everybody goes needs to be,you know, a multi,
multi-millionaire or to do allthis crazy stuff.
But the people I'm specificallytalking to are the ones that

(26:01):
want it but deny themselves ofit because of the beliefs and
the track record that they have.
You know, and that's okay tohave a great time with your
family, have a three-bedroom,two-bath house, have the new
F-150.
That's okay.
But my question to peoplewatching this and to most people
when I coach them is like areyou selling yourself that that's
what you want or is that reallywhat you want?

(26:21):
Are you selling yourself thatthat's what you want because you
don't feel like you can achieveX, or is that really what you
want?
You're selling yourself thatthat's what you want because you
don't feel like you can achieveX, or is that really what you
want?
And if it's really what youwant, then I give you a pat on
the back and commend you all daylong and I think that's amazing
.
But if you never self-developand you never analyze what you
really want and why you want it,then you're just gonna live

(26:43):
life with what you have in frontof you.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Do you believe some of that anxiety or unsettling
feeling of unhappiness seepsinto those individuals because
they feel and they know they cando more and yet they're stuck
in that.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think that they don't know how to get out.
I don't think they know theycan do more.
I think that they don't want tofind out if they're going to
try really hard and fail.
Like, think about it this wayIf I tell myself I'm going to do
something, let's say it's go tothe gym and I've never gone to
the gym in my life but if I tellmyself in my head I'm going to
go to the gym, I'm going to lose20 pounds, but I don't tell

(27:19):
anybody else, and then I don'twake up and no harm, no foul.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh, I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, but if I tell you and I tell my wife and I
tell my friends, I telleverybody and I tell the world
that I'm going to go out thereand I go to the gym because I'm
like fuck, I told everybody, soI go tomorrow and then I go the
next day and then I go 14 moredays and then I kind of dial off
and I skip the weekend becauseI want to hang out with the.
Like the simplest thing withfitness, right, that's the.

(27:48):
They just don't want.
The fear of failure in front ofother people is what I'm
getting at.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Let's talk about other discouraging factors.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Well, other discouraging factors, exactly
what we're rolling into, becauseanother discouraging factor
would be finding commonality inother people that have quit the
gym as well, and it's like, ah,it's all right.
So you hang out with thosepeople and then they're just
giving you a pat on the back forthe life that you have.
And so when you surroundyourself it's the same concept
with money, it's the sameconcept with self-development
and growth you and all yourneighbors with your three

(28:15):
bedroom, two bath houses andyour F-150s and your half-assed
gym exercises, are all sittingthere circle, jerking the fuck
out of each other, because allyou want to do is solidify that
what you're doing is okay, andtaking a big risk can lose
everything in your life, and sothat's the big fear.
And what happens is, thefurther down the road you get,
there is more risk involved.
Right, you don't want to betthe yard when you have two kids

(28:38):
to take care of at the house andthe home goes to foreclosure
and all of these things.
But what I would challengepeople to think about is that
you think that you have securitywhere you're at and you don't.
You could lose your job at anytime.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Absolutely, if it's a government job.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
you're going to get capped 100%.
So you're going to be through aslow pain most of the time, but
the true security truefinancial security and true
security in general is learninghow to make your own dollar,
learning how to earn your ownmoney, make your own money and

(29:14):
learning how, who you are andwhat you really want, and it
could be anything right.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I mean, if you're good at baking you now with
social media, it's amazingopportunities right now, man
sky's the limit yeah, but I, I,it's just like this.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I can tell you how to go swim.
I could, I could, I could showyou books on how to swim, but I
can't go swim for you, right?
And that's what most people do.
Most people just like talkabout it and they don't go try
it themselves or do it, and youknow.
But here's the thing, no onecan take that away from you once
you learn it, right?
That's the same with money.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I want to come back to what we're talking about
right now, but let's, I lovehistory, bro.
Sure, not like the nerdy kindof shit, more like you know,
fucking spartans, cavemen, ourancestors and stuff like that.
The, the man right, the man,the alpha male.
Do you think american men in2025 have come a long way from
what the fuck we're supposed tobe doing?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
yes, but I still feel like there's optimistic,
there's men out there.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, yes, yeah, we have forsure, we definitely have.
But I think that if you shineda light on history, there was a
lot of issues then too.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
You think so?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, I mean, if I were to think back how my
grandfathers grew up and theirdads treated them, I think that
men back then had a hard timewith communication Right, and I
feel like I see one thing that'smassively beneficial today's
time is that men have betterrelationships with their
children and they're moreinvolved and more conscious of
that than back in the day whenit was fucking Clint Eastwood
style kick your kid, smack yourson and tell him to get a job at

(30:41):
14.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I'm glad you said that bro, because that's
knowledge to me, dude, I justreally put that in perspective.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
It's huge because, like our grandfathers were
probably had their ass whoopedfor stuff like big time, like
and and but.
But what happens is like youcould take what you said a
second ago and go too far and belike, yeah, old school, back
how it was.
You know, you need a littlegrit and grind.
Right, and I'm a huge advocatefor it in the.
You could still have that gritand grind.
You could still have that.
You push through things.

(31:06):
We do hard shit but at the sametime there has to be love there
and communication.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I stand corrected, bro, but I like it, dude.
It makes fucking total sense,man.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, yeah.
But I think what you're kind ofhitting on was also about, like
the Blue Ribbon Award for everykid.
The first place, everybody getsan award, a participation
trophy, and that's where, youknow, honestly, kind of our

(31:34):
generation comes in, right,that's where it started, like
the 80s and the 90s and then inthe 2000s, and so everybody it's
like well, timmy fucking sucksand you know, johnny's really
good.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
uh, well, let's just give everybody an award I was
aiming more towardsself-preservation as being
physical fit oh, okay, okay,that's what I was like you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Okay, like back then you're you needed to be
physically able to outrunfucking saber-toothed tiger yeah
, yeah, back then for sure,right, you know, like our
grandfather's generation, youknow, uh, you know they had to
too, because a lot of times theyworked with their hands.
Facts, you know a lot more jobsthat were physically demanding,
you know so there's individualsthat are unhappy.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I mean you, you coach , I coach as well, and we've
come across this man.
It's like fucking a dime adozen.
They say they're unhappy.
They, we know they're unhappy,we can clearly see evidence
they're unhappy and they reachout for information, but they
don't follow through.
How do you deal with that?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I think there's always going to be a percentage
of people that don't followthrough.
I think what I've seen the mostof is it's not the program,
it's not the diet, it's not theinformation or education we're
going to give you or I'm goingto give you, or the book or
anything like that.
Most of the time, people havetwo problems, and one I touched

(32:49):
on a minute ago the fear offailure in front of other people
.
So their fear of trying hardand hard.
They're hard, not being enoughand failing.
And now all of their friendssaid told you, you shouldn't
have fucking invested in thatguru.
Look at you now.
You're a dumb ass and you're$10,000 out of pocket, right.
So the fear of failure.
Or start the business.
You could use a business as anexample.
Oh, you're going to go startyour business and quit your job?
Yeah right, good luck.

(33:09):
And then all their people atthe office tell them good luck.
And then now they're like soworried about what the people at
the office will think when theydo if they ever had the
situation of failing.
So they're like fuck that.
And then the other factor,which is a huge component, is
that they may's.
They don't believe that theycan do it right.
They don't have enoughself-belief.
They've never had anybody sayyou can do it like cheerlead

(33:34):
them on.
You know, one of the thingstalking about men in this
generation versus prior is thata lot of guys grow up without a
father figure and withoutsomebody that's stable there.
And some people have a lot ofhistory or issues or
subconscious issues or priortraumas that they have from
growing up or lack of fathers orlack of encouragement or all
these things, and so they havethis track record.
You talked about school with meand stuff a minute ago.

(33:55):
You have this track record ofwho Austin Hancock was up until
today and that's the story thatI've told myself.
Now this is an example, butthis is the story I've told
myself and over and over,austin's not good at math.
I was never really athletic Inever.
You know, I grew up poor, soI'll probably be poor.
Like there's just theregurgitating story.
That's over and over.
I'm not well good at speaking,I'm uncomfortable on camera,

(34:18):
like I can make up all thesethings, and then what I'm doing
is for the.
My whole story is like I'mconstantly replaying the story
every single day and that'sgiving me the results that I
don't want, but it's giving methe life that I have.
So in order to change that, youhave to change the story.
You have to rewrite the story.
You have to rip the page out ofthe book and start the story
that you want to.
And in order to do that, youhave to fucking have clarity on

(34:44):
what you want in life.
Paint a picture, close youreyes, meditate about it.
What do you want in life?
No fucking restraints.
No financial restraints, zerorestraints.
You want to live in San DiegoFucking.
Paint that picture in your head.
You want to have this.
You want to have this car.
You want to have your wife looklike this.
You want your wife to look atyou like this.
You want to be in this shape.
You want your mind to thatpoint and then ask yourself who

(35:10):
do you have to become in orderto have that?
That's it, and most peopledon't ever fucking think that
way.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
They just keep telling the story and one of the
easiest things to do is toreach out to somebody that's
already fucking done that and iswhere you want to be, yeah, and
ask them how did you do that?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I think that's one of the biggest advantages that I
had is I was always somebodythat asked questions Right,
always, like from the verybeginning of me wanting to learn
how to be better at wrestlingin school or me doing.
How do I become a bodybuilder,how do I get more muscles?
I'd ask the dude in the gym hey, hector, how'd you get those
biceps?
Bro you back?
oh, dude, I do a bunch of curlslike this.
That's how it started for me,literally, and I would just take

(35:45):
what you said and I would justdo it.
I'll back roger, that, bro, I'min closed mouths don't get fed
and I'll ask all the questions.
Dude, I did the same thing aboutwith with money and I wasn't.
I was not scared to go try itand look stupid.
You know, I would go do it andthen, and if I fail there or
something happened, it didn'twork for me.
I'm a hacker.
Uh, I, I did exactly what yousaid.
I've been eating chicken andrice and I'm how do you fucking

(36:06):
eat this every day?
I'm doing it for two weeks.
You're like, oh bro, I only dothis, and then I'll eat beef at
dinner and then I'll go do that.
And it's like adjust, adjust,adjust, ask question, adjust,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
It's fucking magic, dude.
Yeah, and then I, I signed upfor tons of mentorships and I
got a lot of mentorships frompeople.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Let me dive into that right now, from the after the
Marine Corps workingconstruction to the bad-ass dude
that just drove up in thatbad-ass ride.
What steps did you take?
And you said you soughtmentorship.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I did, and it started there, though, like where I
kind of said that where I wasgoing to the gym, the gym was
really I like to equate that toit because you can see physical
change right.
It's the easiest thing.
It doesn't really cost you anymore money to eat better, to eat
less, to stay leaner, itdoesn't.
Gym memberships are pretty costeffective.
So, changing your physical bodyand it's one of the biggest
confidence producers that youcan get.

(36:57):
So shaping your body, you knowif you want to be jacked and big
or if you want to be athleticand lean, whatever it may be,
you just want to lose the weightOnce you can form the body that
you're proud of.
Now you can go forward and haveconversations with people.
You gain confidence a littlebit more to ask the business
question and you have a trackrecord to lean back on.
That says, when I asked Hectorthe question about biceps, I

(37:18):
fucking did it for two years andnow I got biceps.
You know what I'm saying andit's like.
So I know that if I do the samesystem, the same process, if I
ask the right question and Iimplement it, that there will be
a result, and if I don't likethe result.
I need to get new information,then I need to apply it again,
and so that's I mean that kindof sums up what you're asking,

(37:39):
right?
What was that your question?

Speaker 1 (37:39):
That was now.
You mentioned two years, rightWith your mindset and my mindset
.
We understand that nothinghappens over overnight.
No, no, no, nothing happensovernight, man.
So what do you have to say forthose that get discouraged and
they do something once?
Oh fuck, I don't got the biceps.
Oh fuck, I'm not rich.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, nothing good it happens overnight.
It doesn't happen overnight.
It's going to take longer thanyou expect and it's going to
cost more than you want to spend, and so but I think that was
your question a minute ago.
I didn't elaborate all the waythrough.
But so how do I go from the guythat gets out of the Marines to
being who I am today?
It w it's not overnight, man.
I've been an entrepreneur forover 10 years.
I've been lifting for 20 plusyears in some capacity, whether

(38:18):
it's the gym, jujitsu, crossfit,you know whatever.
It is Um, and so it's a longerrun.
You know it's a longer run.
And one day, when you have that, going back to what I said, if
you have that clarity on who, onthe life you want to have so
often, if you're revisiting itevery single day, you're
painting that picture, you'rebeing intentional about what you
do, you're reading the books,you're listening to the podcasts
.
You know you're.

(38:38):
You're paying for mentorships,you're just chugging on every
day, every minute, every day,day, you're constantly growing.
One day you're going to liftyour head up and you're going to
realize that you're that man,that you're that person, and
that's literally how my life hasevolved, and so I wanted the
same concept of learning how togain the biceps we talked about
a minute ago.
I did with business.
I went from workingconstruction and labor to

(39:00):
starting a building company as abuilder, so I built my own
house, I sold it.
I made 45 grand on one sale inmy mid twenties, mid to late
twenties, and I was like, oh myGod, this is after being married
and after having two kiddos,and so my kids are real young.
I went off and did it and I wasfortunate.
I mean, I had support around me, right, like my dad was in
construction so I could ask hima ton of questions.

(39:22):
There was people in my life thatwere willing to help me out,
because they saw that I wasgoing to do what I said I was
going to do and they want to seeme win.
Right, you know what I mean.
And so I would do this.
Made 45 grand on that one deal.
That's more than I made theentire year working hourly for
my dad, and I was like so.
But my mindset shifted thereboom, glass ceiling broken.
Because I was like, oh, this ishow bigger money can be made.

(39:42):
Now I can actually see what canbe made.
Now I can actually see howpeople can make $300,000 a year.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
I just have to do X amount of these.
Did you sell the house you wereliving in or it was a separate?
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
So I.
So I had the house I was livingin and then I built one for
sale.
So a spec house went and got aloan.
You know how to, uh, somebodygoes.
My father helped me co-sign onthe loan.
Nice, he didn't have to put anymoney down, but I had to
co-sign on this loan and Ifigured it out and then we sold
it and then I made 45 grand andthat was like an epiphany.
Now I like dude, I could be,I'm going to be a builder, and

(40:14):
so I go all in pretty much I'mlike.
So I stopped.
I slowly stopped working for mydad.
I start building homes.
I get a couple of custom homes,meaning houses I built for other
people.
I would build these from groundup, do a little bit of mini
development, build a few spechouses which are like houses for
sale, and I was like, man, thisis awesome, I'm grooving, I
have a company, I'm like doingthe thing.

(40:35):
And then it kept growing andgrowing and I got to a point
where we were doing big numbersand I was doing big high-end
homes and I was in magazines, Iwas doing creative homes.
I was doing all this butanother pinnacle point happened.
So this is this is crazy.
Like you'll see, most peoplethought like dude, you've made
it.
People like you're up around,like you're the builder, you
know you have show homes.
I, of course, during thistransition I had built my own

(40:58):
homes, so I'm living in somepretty sick pads at a young age.
You know I'm doing well, butthat business this is a little
bit more deep on business thatbusiness wasn't going to still
provide me the life that Iwanted.
Why?
Because it still required meand it required the clients were
emotional about the investment.
It's their home, it's theircustom home.

(41:19):
If I'm building it for them, um, and higher end product people
are more picky about.
They will not buy a milliondollar home with the countertops
not the colors that they want.
They want it to be morecustomized to them, and million
dollars in Oklahoma isdefinitely relatively different
than a million dollars here inSan Diego County Plus like minus
five years ago, you know soyeah.
So I started.

(41:39):
So I was like, boom, I need tolearn new information.
And I didn't have it.
My dad wasn't a real estateinvestor.
He was a construction guy.
He's smart, he knows what he'sdoing, but he doesn't know real
estate investing.
So I didn't have any of thoseresources around me.
So I've had to go out and seekmentorship from people that had
that right, that had alreadydone what I wanted to do and I
had to pay to play, and so mywife and I at the time, with two

(42:02):
young kids, had some houses onthe market that weren't selling.
We weren't in the bestfinancial position to do this.
I invested $52,000 in atwo-year real estate program
where I went out this is beforeInstagram, when I was like 2015,
.
Maybe Instagram was out, but itwasn't what it is today.
We would go out and we would goto these classes and we would
learn about how to invest inreal estate and how to buy

(42:23):
property, how to fix and flipproperty, how estate and how to
buy property, how to fix andflip property, how to hold
property and build portfolios,and I started implementing it
and slowly got myself out ofbeing a builder to becoming an
investor.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Now did you find that mentorship and course is
beneficial Massively?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, I think there's two ways to look at it.
You'll hear people you knowthat'll invest in a mentorship
or a program or whatever.
I didn't get any value out ofthat.
That was the worst.
Well, there's negative people,half-splash, empty-type people.
I go into any of this anymoreand I still invest.
I probably invested over$150,000 in 2024 in mentorships.
I go into it now If I can takeone piece away that saves me 50

(43:01):
grand or makes me 50 grand, or100 grand or 300 grand.
Bro, what about the time periodbetween now and the next five,
10 years?
What can I do with that?
So I just need one piece ofinformation and that's.
That's all I need.
And so, or or just to be ableto see you do it, I want to like
hey man, can you mind if Ishadow you for a day and watch
you do this podcast?
I don't know anything aboutthem.
Yeah, dude.
Then boom, now you're going tosee it done.

(43:22):
How else are you going to learnthat stuff?
You're going to go try the hardway.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I'm definitely tracking, bro.
I get it, bro, I see it, man,and that's why I love you know
doing this.
So I love giving knowledge tothe audience, to the people
watching, cause I know there's abunch of unhappy motherfuckers
out there.
I mean, I just left the prisonsystem full of it, you know what
.
I mean and it's like hey, dude,there's fucking a way out.
I showed you the way out, man,other dudes are showing you the

(43:47):
way out.
If other people have done it,you can do it, you know.
And we're just average normaldudes.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Maybe we're not anymore.
Yeah, you're correct.
I think we're perceived.
I know for a fact like I've hada realization recently.
One of my reels went viral andI said something that offended a

(44:13):
bunch of people, not like in aracist way or anything or not
bad, but in a way that theydisagree with.
It was about money, and thepeople that want to be more
dependent on minimum wage orgovernment checks were offended
by it, and so I was reallyshocked.
So they only have a perceptionof me looking through me on
social media.
They don't know any of myhistory.
They don't even know I was aveteran.
They don't know that I workedconstruction growing up or
anything like that, and by Isaid I didn't have a hard life,
but they just don't know that Iput in the work.

(44:34):
They think that, like this guy,they see me today, they judge me
for who I am today.
Immediately they're like a guythat has a freaking Rolls Royce,
lives here, he's a Lamborghini,he has all this shit.
And then they judge that guyand so they get.
They're very hostile and soyou're right, people see that
and they get.
They don't think that thatperson did hard work, that it
was a trust fund or somethinglike that, but whatever,

(45:11):
no-transcript work and they haveto be willing to clarify what
it is that they really want andthey have to be willing to.
This is the biggest part.
They have to get rid of the oldstory.
They have to be willing to saythat I was, that I'm not that
anymore, and you have tochallenge your beliefs.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Now would you agree that part of the old story um
includes people?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
A hundred percent.
I've lost tons of friends atevery level of every phase of
life that I've gone through.
Um I've lost a lot of friends.
I'm fortunate personally on myside of the family, that my
family is very supportive.
You know they're just, it'sfine Austin's doing his thing,
but I know a lot of other peoplethat would not be the case.
It would not be the case at all.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Two-part question what do you have to say to the
individuals that want to makethe change to better themselves,
but they're afraid of thecriticism and the people that
critique, and what do you do toface the?

Speaker 2 (46:10):
critics?
Great question.
This is usually one of thehardest things you know, and
I'll give you an example.
You ever heard of a crabs inthe bucket theory?
Absolutely Okay.
Yeah, for those of you watchingthat don't know what that means
is if you put one crab in abucket, the crab can get out,
but if you put five crabs in thebucket and one crab tries to
get out of the bucket, the othercrabs will pull that crab back
down in the bucket, and so ifyou really want to change, the

(46:34):
best thing you can do is takethe advice that I got when I
joined the Marine Corps andfucking shut up, block them out,
stop talking to them, blockthem on social media if you have
to cut them out of your lifeand put your head down and go
after what you're wanting to do.
And I know a lot of people, um,especially family oriented

(46:54):
people Hispanics, a lot of times, are family oriented, right,
yeah, yeah, and I've and I'vementored and coached some of
them because I've gone throughthese scenarios with them, and
they feel very obligated to like, help their siblings out or
their mothers and things likethat, cause maybe the father
left or something.
This is just specific to thescenario.
I shouldn't even.
It's not even a race thing, butI'm just telling you.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
it's more family oriented.
The shoe fits for me.
Trust me, yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
And so what I'm saying is they feel obligated to
like well, I have to stay hereCause my mom doesn't have
anybody to help with this.
If that young man in thisscenario went out and became
massively successful, put theirhead down for three, four, five
years and then came back, youcan actually help people, but
you're not helping anybody bystill being the same person that

(47:35):
you are, by being the baby boy.
Say it again for the people inthe back bro.
It's like when you get on acommercial airline and they all
tell you when the freaking planeif there's an oxygen problem,
you have to put your oxygen maskon first and then help other
people.
You know, if you were goingrushing around helping grandma,
helping the kids out, helpingall these people out, and then
boom, you're fucking passing out.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
You're not helping anybody.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Everybody's going to die Now big-ass Hector over here
is fucking passing out.
Now we can't pick him up andthen somebody else's mask fall
off.
So you have to put your liferight first.
You have to get your who youare corrected first, and once
you do that then you can goforth and actually start helping
people financially withwhatever it is.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
So funny story, dude.
Uh, I actually blocked my momon Instagram two years ago, not
because I don't love her Trustme, I love you.
I love you, trust me.
But we were not seeing eye toeye, she wasn't seeing my vision
, right.
But man, I'll tell you what.
She took a screenshot of thatand texted to me yesterday it's
like I don't need you texting methis.
Yeah, that's why I blocked you.

(48:33):
Yeah, um, but yeah, it's evenour own family members, not
because they hate you oranything, it's because here's
the deal they have fear about.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
they don't, and especially like let's let's view
it the military.
This is probably a lot ofmilitary events, this.
My parents didn't technicallynot want me to join the Marine
Corps, but they probably didn'twant me to, and they have a good
reason.
I don't want my son to go die.
They're in it for a differentreason than me.
I'm in it to fulfill my fantasyof life, of what I want to go
do, of being a Marine or asoldier or a special operations,

(49:01):
whatever that is.
And your parents have everyright to say self-preservation.
Their job as parents are toprotect you, keep you alive,
keep you safe, and so is itadvantageous for their agenda to
fucking send you off to be inthe Marine Corps, infantry or
the army entry Hell, no,absolutely not.
But what do you do?
You have to do what you that'saligned with the path that you
want to take.
It's the same concept withgoing out and doing your own

(49:24):
thing, and so you have to bewilling to shut out all that
noise and and go forward andstill do it, because they don't
have the same vision for you asyou have for you, and and that's
, that's okay.
If they had the life that youwanted, then you would admire
them for the life that they have.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
And it's a lot of noise, man, it's a lot.
It gets noisy, it getsextremely noisy.
Dude, dude, what can you talkabout?
How it almost seems like peoplewant to put their life how you
should live your life and howpeople like, okay, yeah, I
should get married, I shouldhave the house right and it's
hey, man, maybe that's not whatthe fuck you want, but that's

(50:01):
what society has.
Can you elaborate on that?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, that's, that is true, that happens all the time
.
That happens all the time andwe're probably guilty of it too.
Yeah, like you and I, I'mguilty of it by by wanting
people to to want more.
You know and maybe they don't,you know, and so I'm I'm guilty
for trying to be like.
You know you could grow more,you could have more, you could

(50:25):
freaking live where you want,have what you want, and there's
some people that honestly, likeI said a second ago, don't want
that.
But you have to ask yourself ifthat's truly what you don't
want.
And I don't think people evergive themselves the option.
They don't think it's an option.
They see the car, they don'tthink it's an option.

(50:52):
No-transcript.
Do well for themselves, right?
They're like the first gen ofsuccessful entrepreneurs and
have made what we would call, inthe average world, good money,
like really good money, but theynever thought that they would
even get there.
So they really have noafterthought of where they want
to go from there.

(51:13):
So they just kind of cap andstop.
And so you have to have some.
You have to get clear with whatyou really want.
Man, it's a self.
That's why self development isso important and it's not a
one-time thing.
Oh, I self-developed and Imeditated, like Austin said, and
now I figured out who I wantedCheckmate.
No, it's going to change.
Things are going to change,like the things I want now and

(51:33):
where I want to go, and myopportunities have grown with me
as I've gone through it.
But so many times people gethung on to the materialistic
things or the lifestyle thatthey have that they'll never let
go in order to get really,really what they want.
You know, the best thing in theworld is you have to be willing
to sacrifice the life that youhave now in order to get the

(51:54):
life that you want, and youcan't have both and it's going
to cost you a lot more andyou're going to be having,
you're going to have to bewilling to give up things that
you may have worked reallyfucking hard for.
You know you swung a hammer for15 years and you bought that
three bedroom, two bath houseand that F one 50 with that
fucking hammer, right Like we'reworking hard, working overtime,
framing houses or or doingconcrete work, so that money is

(52:17):
it's.
You're like dude.
You know how hard it was for meto get to where I am today, but
that's because of theinformation that you have, and
so you have to be willing to getrid of that and grow and expand
your mind.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Can you elaborate how important it is to reinvest?
Reinvest your earnings,reinvest in order to grow.
And you're right, people workso hard to obtain a level right.
But once you're at that level,you have the option you can hang
out there forever or you canreinvest, but it's going to cost
you to give that up.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah Well, I would challenge people to say this.
You said he can get thereforever, and I think what I
realized at a point in my lifewas that there is no forever,
because at one point in lifeeverybody watching this if you
have a home or you have clothesor you have cars, the clothes
are going to go in the trash oneday, the house will be somebody
else's one day and the car willeither be in the junkyard or

(53:05):
somebody else's as well, and soyou don't have forever things,
and the sooner you realize that,the easier it will be for you
to release it and give it up nowso that you could move to the
next level, because it may bethe very things that you're
hanging onto that holds you backfrom getting to the next level.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Are there levels to the game?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
A hundred percent and they're all here.
It's all mental, right, it'sall mental, right, it's all
mental.
But at the beginning it ismental, it is mental and I'll
tell you, I'll tell, I'llexplain why.
This is a good conversation.
You have to start learning newinformation at the beginning.
A lot of times we have tounlearn all of the programming
we have from.
Maybe it's our parents, it'sthe teachers, it's the school
system, all of these things,this old story, right, because

(53:44):
people, you know, a teacher inmiddle school told me I was
never good at math and that shitstuck.
I'll never be successfulbecause my daddy was a crackhead
.
This stuck, like all of thisstuff in this story, you know,
and people pat you on the backand say, oh, hector, every day,
it's okay, your dad was acrackhead, we will help you out.
You need money, and so youcreate this victim.
You create this personality andthis persona of being a victim,
and that's what the majority ofpeople walk around with, facts,

(54:06):
right?
So you have to cut that out andchange that, and the best way
to do that is.
One thing that the people needthe most at the very beginning
is money.
They need financial education,they need some financial
literacy and understand how toobtain or make more money.
That's what most people thinkthey want in the beginning or
need.
So you have to.
How are you going to do that?
How do you expect to do that?
Here's, here's how you don't doit.

(54:26):
If you want more money, youdon't go get more formal
education to avoid trying tomake more money, because now
what you're going to do isyou're just going to get a job
and then that job you're goingto have to ask permission to
make more money.
What you need to do is, Irealized, like I just want to
cut out all the shit in betweenand I just want to learn how to
make more money.
What will do that?
And then I said, okay, well,now there's these things let's

(54:48):
say we laid them out.
There's 10 things that show mehow to make more money Day
trading, real estate, starting acompany, service business,
doing all these things, whateverit is, selling watches,
whatever.
Okay, now I throw in the otherpiece and I say, hey, what's
going to also provide me thelifestyle I want?
Because if I started aninsurance firm and I wanted to
grow it to a hundred milliondollars, I'm not going to be

(55:08):
home a lot with my kids.
I'm going to have to trade alot of my thirties, forties and
maybe even fifties in order toget the business to where it
needs to be time-wise, and somepeople are willing to sacrifice
that.
That's fine.
That's not what I threw in thepot, and so you have to ask
yourself what are these thingsthat make more money?
How can I make more money andthen start focusing all of your

(55:29):
energy and efforts on that,instead of watching the fucking
NFL game, instead of going tothe beer drinking thing with
your buddy, buying the wheelsfor your car cars?
Even though I was making anhourly wage, I somehow came up
with enough money to go tobuffalo wild wings every weekend
and spend a couple hundredbucks on booze and wings, and

(55:51):
then I would buy new wheels andtires for my truck almost every
year, or get a new car or buy amotorcycle right like right.
But I never had any money to gohire a mentor facts and so what
I?
The pinnacle change in my lifewas like if I have money to go,
go do that.
Then I should just maybe, justmaybe be mature enough to try to

(56:12):
try this out and not buy thethings and see if I can change
this really works and dude itdoes it really does?
If you want it to, it will, andthat new information, then you
apply it and then it keepsgrowing.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Not only that, it almost seems like I became more
resourceful.
You know it's like you'remaking more, but now I'm
spending less.
Spending on less stupid shittrue, 100.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
I'm not spending money on dumb shit like I used
to yeah, but that's because alot of times, when you don't
make a lot and you don't likethe life you have, you're trying
to escape it.
So you try to use the time thatyou have available which may be
only the weekends or your timeoff or your two weeks or a year
vacation to maximize your lifeexperience.
That makes sense, because whenyou're an entrepreneur or you're

(56:55):
living your life now and we'rehere on a freaking Tuesday at
one o'clock and we can go wherewe want, we could have coffee
for another two hours, we couldhave had breakfast, it doesn't
matter Like when you're living amore free life, it's different,
it's totally different.
So they're maximizing, they'retrying to make the biggest
payoff, they're trying tojustify the position that
they're in that they hate.
That's fucking crazy, bro.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
The amount of wisdom.
You're dropping some fuckinggems dude.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I mean, it's been through coaching a lot of people
and then what happens is, whenI've coached a lot of money to
go and to do this that's crazy,can you teach me?
And so that's how it started.
But when I would get on thesecalls, when I would start
working with these guys andgirls, I was like there's a lot

(57:38):
of other things that need tocome first and that need to be
applied into these programs,because I didn't just snap my
fingers and just flip houses andbecome millions.
I had to become the person thatwas financially stable, that
was financially trustworthy forthe lenders to connect with me,
that was responsible with abusiness, and I had a lot of

(57:58):
lessons to be learned from stepone to where I was when I
started coaching and so on.
These calls you dive into thesethings and you give people
advice.
But when you hear these calls,you would.
You dive into these things andyou give people advice.
But when you hear you hear themtalk to you and tell you what's
going on in their life, itmakes you self-reflect on how
you really did do it, because myobjective and just who I am is
like I want to see you succeedIf you work with me.

(58:19):
I want to see you succeed inall ways, and so I'm like what
was it that Austin was dealingwith five years ago?
What was I thinking?
And I would look back, and soso much self-reflection of what
led me here has helped me guidepeople forward, if that makes
sense.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
No, 100% dude.
So I've considered doing realestate investing right.
As a matter of fact, you wantto grow your portfolio and stuff
like that.
Now I'm asking this questionbecause I genuinely want to know
you know some people have thatdid it make any sense to buy one
rental property?
And then it's like are youstuck?
Do people get stuck there?
Do they get?

Speaker 2 (58:55):
discouraged.
Yeah, If you get.
If you buy wrong, you can getstuck.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
If you buy wrong, mistakes a hundred percent, Yep,
Yep, Um.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
And so you have to learn.
It goes back to like newinformation, right, Right, and
so learning how to buy a deal.
I tell people this, I'm like it.
Just if you, just if I justcoached you on real estate right
now.
I said you're going to invest Xamount of dollars working with
me.
Let's call it.
Let's say you invest $10,000working with me and I'm going to
show you how to find deals.
I'm going to show you how toget the correct ones.
I'm going to show you how tobuild your portfolio or sell the

(59:24):
properties and make money.
Okay, you could buy the wrongdeal and you're going to go do
it with a realtor, a retailrealtor.
You're going to go do it with arealtor, a retail realtor.
You're going to buy it off themarket, maybe market value price
, which means today's price.
It's on Zillow.
Is this a good deal?
I know this neighborhood'sgreat.
That's what most people say.
I could rent this out if I hada 30-year mortgage, and so
that's what most people say.

(59:44):
I have to put 10%, 20% down.
Okay, so if it's a millionbucks, $100,000 house, it's
still a decent amount of moneydown.
And then the realtor is goingto catch a commission when you
buy it from her, when you buy itfrom the market, and that could
be anywhere from 3% to 6%depending on how it was
negotiated.
And that 3% to 6%, you're goingto pay more to buy a property

(01:00:07):
wrong to an agent that didn't doshit to turn the lights on than
you would be to invest with meand totally understand how real
estate investing works.
But people won't put that mathtogether.
You know the ones that havehave been super successful, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I'm going to hit you up, dude, for sure, man, yeah,
but you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Like the question you asked about, real estate is
huge.
So, yes, you can buy dealswrong and it can scorn you, but
most people there's a lot ofpeople that say they're real
estate investors it's a verybroad word like entrepreneur,
I'm an entrepreneur, it's reallyhype right now, right, but
they're not really buyingproperty at a discounted value
adding to it.
They don't understand thebusiness side of it.
A lot of people buy property.

(01:00:45):
Maybe they're a doctor, they'rea high-income earner, they do
something well, or they're abusiness owner.
They'll go buy property simplyfor the tax deductions and
they'll go buy at retail.
They'll buy it wrong andthey'll say they have a real
estate portfolio or they builtthis real estate portfolio but
they've taken active income andbought assets, which is okay,
that's okay.
That's an okay game to play.

(01:01:05):
But when you're a real realestate investor and you're
constantly doing it, you're alot of times you're doing value
add opportunities.
So you're taking a property,you know, you're tweaking it,
you're upping rents, you'reremodeling it if you need to and
you're taking it at a discount.
So let's just use round numbers.
Buy a property for 50 grand.
Bear with me.
I know properties aren't 50grand anymore.
They used to be when I started.

(01:01:25):
50 grand, you add $20,000 inrehab, but you knew before you
bought this property that it wasgoing to be worth $100,000.
Before you bought this propertythat it was going to be worth
$100,000.
So you just created $30,000 inequity instead of coming to that
deal and buying it for ahundred grand and putting
$30,000 down.
Okay, does that make sense?
Absolutely.
And if you go, if you have ajob and if you watch this you
have a W-2 job or acommission-based job you have to

(01:01:48):
ask yourself how long does ittake you to make $30,000?
Sometimes it takes people tosave an extra after your living
expenses.
It may take you a year, twoyears, maybe five years for some
people to save $30,000.
So, if that's the case, howmany properties are you going to
be able to accumulate over afive to 10 year span?
Very small amount.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
But does it get more complicated?
I mean flipping a house, buyingit for 50, adding, adding 20.
You got to be able to findcontractors and stuff like that.
Does that complicate matters oris it more?
Once you get in your foot inthe door, you get a little
network going oh, once you getyour foot in the door, you get
network going really just likeanything else.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Yep, just like anything else.
And uh, and I'm not saying wedo a whole rehab on property
like crazy rehab.
A lot of times it's justupdating property and things
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
But that's the beginning of it, you know yeah
yeah bro, I'm fucking stoked man, I just love, I love having
these fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
You could ask that question in reverse too and say,
yeah, does it take a little bitto learn this, or is it is it?
Is it, uh?
Is it going to be harder hiringconstruction?
that is an intimidating factorfor a lot of people, especially
if they don't have anyconstruction experience um,
construction experience.
But I would challenge that withgoing back to what I said a
second ago.
How long is it going to takeyou to save 30 grand?
Would you rather just learn howto make that?

(01:03:02):
Because if you can do it onceand you can do it twice, if you
can do it twice, you can do itfour times, and if you can do
that in a year, then you make 30grand times four in one year.
I mean even 30 grand times onedeal.
How much would that impact yourlife?
Like people watching this andadded $30,000 in one year let's
just say you did one deal at thenumbers I just gave you.
All right, how much would thatimpact most people's lives?

(01:03:22):
$30,000 in addition to whatthey're doing would make a big
deal for most people.
Right, you know, I wouldn't shyaway from $30,000 today.
Still, I mean, I don't shunmoney at all.
Correct, don't you know?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
at that point, what is Austin value where you're at
right now?
I mean, we got family wealth.
Uh, what do you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
value.
I value my health, health bigtime.
Yeah, I value my health.
I value, of course, my family.
I think that's a pretty goodgeneric response and that's true
I do.
I value my family.
Like I wouldn't want to go getrich or have the best body in
the world or have all thesethings and then be lonely at
night to have no family.
When you, when you go to die at60, 70, 80 years old, whatever

(01:04:01):
it may be, you know, no one'sthere.
Like wow, austin was rich andjacked, you know what I'm saying
?
Like so, but something that Ivalue from more of a personal
standpoint, that really excitesme and this has always been this
way and this is somethingprobably a lot of vets will
agree with is just adventure.
Maybe I was an adventure-drivenkid, from ramping bikes to

(01:04:22):
joining the Marines, to doingthese things.
You lived in Germany.
I love that.
I love the adventure, I loveseeing the world, I love
experiencing life.
I value it a lot.
I feel and maybe we have thatperception from going to war
that at a young age you're likeyou have to play two games, you
know?
Going back a little bit tofinances, you have to play two
games.
You have to play a short gamebecause it's like if I were to

(01:04:43):
die tomorrow, facts, would I bemad that I bought the lambo or
the rolls royce?
I mean, no, I'd fucking be gladI did it, absolutely, and my
daughter got to ride in it.
I thought we had a fun time, wehad an experience.
It's an experience thing, youknow, but you have to also play
the long game and the long gameis like well, what will set me
up for success 10, 15, 20 yearsfrom now?

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
so it's a, it's a balance with that I like that
dude fucking long game in theshort game, bro, yep, um.
What advice do you have toviewers that want to change and
are afraid to start?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I would ask them.
The first thing is to challengeyour beliefs.
Why do you believe what youbelieve from religion, from the
things that you feel that arefacts?
Ask yourself if they're trulyfacts or if they're just things
that you call facts because youhaven't self, you haven't dove
into these things, you know?
I think that's the number onething is.

(01:05:38):
And then, once you do that, Ithink what happens is and I know
for a fact, cause I've done itis you realize like I would like
to know more information aboutthis, because I don't know if I
really believe this without allthe information you know, you
call it a crazy conspiracytheories, lots of stuff like
that out right now.
But like this needs to be basedon, like your own life, right?
Not just what the fucking mediais telling you or the news or

(01:05:59):
what's going on in the world.
Ignore all that, for right nowyou need to figure out what you
believe to be facts.
And if you believe that, that'swhy it goes back to figuring
out you and who you are, becauseyou got to know how you tick,
because you're the only one thattalks to yourself over and over
for the rest of your life, andif you're not on your own side,

(01:06:19):
then who is?
You know?
Mom may be against you.
Like you said, when you startyour business, people might not
like what you do.
When you put yourself onYouTube or Instagram or whatever
it is, people don't believe youshould start a business because
you have a great life right now, but you're the person that has
to live with you.
So you have to figure out whoyou are and what you believe,
and so, in order to besuccessful, that's one of the
most important things.
What's crazy is I've sat attables and I've been in

(01:06:41):
entrepreneur groups of peoplethat make millions of dollars.
I know people that have exitedeight figure plus companies some
nine and made big, big, bigmoney, and I've been fortunate
to have qualified to get intosome of these rooms and sat down
at small tables with thesepeople, and they've made a lot
of money.
They've done really well inbusiness in this one space, but

(01:07:01):
I've also seen the backside ofit, to where they're insecure
about their body.
They feel very insecure aboutall these other factors of their
life, and so they'reessentially standing on one
vertical, one thing that they'regood at, instead of looking at,
you know, let's just say,health, wealth, relationships.
You know those things, all ofthose, and I think that for me I

(01:07:23):
want to be good at all of those, not just I'm just a rich guy
that's fat and I don't need tobe, have a bunch of, I don't
need to be ripped because I haveall this money.
You know, and we all know thebodybuilders out there that are
jacked, ripped, best physiquesin the world.
Dude at the beach, that's justlike dialed in.
You're like damn, that'sfucking the guy who looks jacked
but he doesn't know shit aboutmoney.
And then you need, like I said,then we all know the guy that

(01:07:46):
maybe has both of those, but atthe end of the day he's lonely,
he has no family, like he has nonothing.
You know, when it comes down toit and you held a gun to our
head I know you have a daughter,I have kids, you know, and you
were like you had to give up themoney, you had to go, every
materialistic thing you had, youcouldn't go to the gym for a
month, whatever all these thingsare, to save your kiddo.
We'd fucking do it in aheartbeat like second, like not

(01:08:08):
even a second thought, right,right, and so that's super
important to have thatperspective and understand, but
some people.
I'll get off the soapbox but Ipromise you this is the other I
could do is the fucking dadsthat stand on.
I'm the best dad.
That's why they don't go workhard and make the money and
that's why they don't work ontheir physique too.
But the reality is like youhave to go live your dreams.

(01:08:29):
You have to go and be the bestversion of you and understand
you, so that you can go aroundand actually teach your kids to
do the same thing.
They're following what you do,not listening to what you say.
Definitely dude, you know howcan a dad like, let's say, you
stayed in the correction systemand you fucking fall.
You went through it forever andyou're like, well, I'm married,
I have kids and I just shouldstay here because I'm afraid to
lose my job.
I don't want to do it, I don'twant to fail my family.

(01:08:51):
And you did it, but you did itmiserably.
But you never let anybody knowand you just fucking grunted it
out and your kids watch you dothat.
And then how are you going tobe able to tell your kid dude,
take the leap, go trust yourself, go do the thing.
They're going to look at youand be like, well, why haven't
you, dad, fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
You know why?
Because, hey, I got to givecredit where credit is due.
Man, back in the day, my father, that's all they knew, man.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
That's all they knew 100%.
We could challenge that too.
Yeah, Is that all they knew, oris that all they chose to look
for?

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
I'm from a small ass town, bro, but again, it's right
, it's a story.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
I'm from a small town .
You're selling the story, yeah,yeah, and you're giving them an
alibi which, which is fine.
I mean, I'm not saying weshould beat on the people before
us by all means we were wherewe're at because of them, so
we're very grateful for that.
But I'm saying this becauseyou're doing exactly what we're
talking about.
You're giving them a story, butat the same time, you changed
it.
I mean, this is just a timeblip in life right now, like
they were just born before you,so you're changing it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Why is it fucking different?
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
are you more special?

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
because you're changing it.
What a trip dude it is a trip,though, to think about you'll be
like that was the lack ofinformation.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
To be like no dude, there were people that fucking
went across the whole world backin 1919 you know what I'm
saying.
Like the United States is oneof the youngest countries,
Somebody, some fucking crazybastard, jumped on a ship and
and, and you know, went overhere to the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Fucking flying kites with keys and shit and
electrocuted.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
So it's the individual that challenges their
thought process and beliefs.
Right Like you could pick upand leave your hometown,
regardless of where you're at.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Do you have a daily routine that you fucking
mandatory hit, like you wake upat the same time and work out?

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
I'm huge on.
You know, one of the MarineCorps phrases that I like to
carry out is like improvise,adapt and overcome, and
sometimes there's seasons oflife that have to change, you
know, when I moved or my kidswere younger, or all these
things and so I'm kind of in atransition period.
This year I'm going to changeup my schedule, but normally I
wake up around four usually atfour and then I go straight to
the gym.
I'd just go work out, get myhead right, do cardio, listen to

(01:11:03):
an audio book I still try toprogram myself for positive,
right, Whether it's a YouTubevideo, whether it's a podcast,
whether it's, you know, anythingthat's motivational, getting me
into a positive state of mind.
That's huge.
It helps me a ton, and so thatwas kind of my routine before.
But what I'm jumping into now isI find that I'm a lot more
productive by jumping into abouttwo to three hours of work.
So I'll wake up, drink coffeeor caffeine, and then I'll just

(01:11:25):
get to work.
I'll look at like, thinkingabout, I get really creative, I
get into this deep workflowNobody's messing with me,
Everybody's asleep still andthen I get to go to the gym
after that and, uh, here inbeautiful San Diego.
You know the sun's out againnow, and so I find, oh, it feels
so good.
Um, but I still will usuallyprogram myself before I start

(01:11:45):
working, meaning listening tothese, to whether it's a book,
whether it's a podcast, whetheryou know all these things where
I'm like I'm inspired, I'mcreative, I'm ready to roll.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
So I don't have any I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
I'm not one of those guys.
It's like if I don't get afucking ice bath and you know,
stretch and do all these thingslike some of that, I think that
could be a weakness too.
Definitely it's something youand I both know as being in
military infantry dudes, dude, Imean, if you're hoping you're
not a professional athlete, like, oh, everything needs to be
dialed in and perfect no, dude,you're fucking sleeping on a, on

(01:12:18):
an iPad or a Mac on the mat onthe ground.
You may get into firefight oryou may go through training or
whatever.
You may not have child tonight,I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Exactly so.
You just deal with it, Fuckinga dude.
The military taught us thatimprovise overcome and adapt,
Improvise, adapt.
So, Austin dude, where can ourviewers find you?
Are you on the web, bro?
You got a website.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Absolutely dude.
So easiest thing to do isprobably just hit me up on
Instagram austinhancock1.
Hit me up there, I'll chat withyou Super fast response, or go
to wwwaustinhancockcom so adaptand overcome Austin.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Thank you for coming on the show, dude.
Holy shit, I knew it was goingto be a good conversation, man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
I love it.
I freaking knew it, dude,Definitely yeah we're going to
keep in touch, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
You're in San Diego now, yep, so we're right there.
Thank you guys for watching man.
Holy shit, another banger.
Right, we try to drop thatknowledge and wisdom subscribe
button.
Love you guys.
Keep pushing forward.
Story never ends you, thank you.

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