What Happens When Good Cops Leave?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hector Bravo unhinged .

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Chaos is now in session.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome back to our channel Warriors.
We are still growing Today.
Another banger for you guys.
Man, I have a former Mendocinocop turned actor.
I have none other than Trent.
What up, trent?
How's it going, dude?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's good man, Glad to finally meet you in person.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Definitely bro, as fuck.
Man six, three, yeah, no bigdeal makes me look short, man 5,
11, mexican you know it's allgood, bro, with the hair.
It's like salt six foot, though, you know, true, yeah, yeah so,
uh, I know you're in la now,but prior to that, where did you
grow up?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I grew up in ukiah, which is in mendocino county in
northern california.
It's like three hours north ofsan francisco, out in the
fucking woods in the middle ofnowhere.
It's part of the emeraldtriangle.
It was like us trinity countyand humboldt county um, it's
where all the weeds at how closeis humboldt county to there?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
it's just the next county up.
Okay, because I'm familiar withhumboldt county with the
netflix series the Wii.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, yeah.
So Alder Point, where they didwhat the hell was that show
called?
Yeah, I forgot, but it was thatshow.
Yeah, people Disappear and Shit.
People Murder and Shit, yeah.
So when I watched that shit, Iwas still on the street and I
was working in a very similararea, but it was way more
hardcore and I was just laughingand I was at my shitty resident

(01:22):
deputy house um, watching it onnetflix and I'm like bro, they,
they fucking should have camedown here and did that.
bro, that was like a standardtuesday, you know where I was at
so really, oh yeah, yeah, itwas fucking chaotic why do you
think it is a humble that?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
why do you think that area got the limelight as
opposed to the other one?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
just I don't know and I'm not taking anything away
from that story whatsoever.
Right, it was fucking crazyshit, but I'm just saying, like
all three of those county,including ours, it was just
nothing but homicides andkidnappings, all weed and money
related, not these days, butback then.
Yeah, great man, this is goingto be interesting conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I mean, people love true crime.
Yeah, I'm fucking infatuated byit, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
So growing up I'm assuming youweren't privy and I'm talking
about, like adolescent age Wereyou privy to crime, of what was
transpiring in the area.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh dude, growing up I was a hellion man.
I was always in trouble.
I was flipping off cops.
Tell me to fuck off.
Oh yeah, yeah, I hated cops bro.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Is it a small town or a larger town?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
city.
Yeah, it's really small.
Um, where I grew up in, yucayis probably well, uh shit, I
don't know 15 000 something likethat pretty small.
Yeah, yeah, very rural.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
If you're flipping off cops, don't you know who the
cops are?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
yeah.
Yeah, it was like a reallysmall, you know, local, local pd
, local police department.
Um, they hated me.
I didn't like them.
You know I'm talking like youknow, 16, 17, when I was
starting to drive and all that,so yeah.
But they were looking backthough, bro, like once I became
a cop.
I still maintained that mindset.
Those guys were just straightfucking assholes.
Not that I was cool.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I get you.
Yeah, we'll elaborate into that, but I get where you're.
Did you have a problem withauthority?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, that's probably a big part of that.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's probably a big part of that.
Yeah, were you rebellious?
Yeah, in general, because I'mrebellious as well, but I don't
like dumb authority.
Are you willing to listen tocertain things that make sense?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, Logic and common sense resonates very well
with me.
For sure I'm able to takecriticism, but especially during
my time in law enforcement youcan definitely attest to this
pretty much everybody we workedfor knows less than we did facts
.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
so oh, this is gonna be a juicy fucking interview,
bro, because we're talking thesame language, man.
Yeah, a lot of the peopleunderstand.
Yeah, yeah, it's just, you know.
Very few people have come outand spoken on on this.
Yeah, I don't, I don't give afuck.
So I'll say whatever Right.
So, I myself also like commonsense, you know, and logic.
So how the hell did you go fromflipping off cops to wanting to

(03:56):
even become a cop?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Um, long story short.
So when I was 17, I got intosome major shenanigans and my
parents at the time made me moveto Utah where I had relatives
there, thinking that it wasgoing to pull me out of that
environment, it would save mefrom jail or whatever.
I later came back.
Long story short, I got reallyinto fitness and working out and
that's when I stopped partyinga lot because I was seeing

(04:21):
progress doing that shit and Iwas feeling good partying a lot
because I was seeing progressdoing that shit and I was
feeling good.
And then I moved away to SonomaCounty, which is an hour south,
started going to college andgraduated from college and then
I went to an administrative ofjustice class when I was at
college and just the subjectmaterial was so fascinating,

(04:41):
interesting to me and I hatedeverything else and I was like,
holy fuck, this is kind ofinteresting.
Then I went on a ride alongwhen I was like 20, nice did
like a code three run and shitwith the lights and sirens and I
was like, is this what youfucking dudes do all day?
And of course that's not trueat all.
He's like oh yeah, dude, it'ssick as fuck.
You should apply.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Um, and then I just kind of fell in love with that
so your parents moved you away,uh, to get you out of trouble or
to save you?
Yeah, did that work?
Was it an effective move?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
no, because I ended up moving back when I was like
18, gotten even more shit.
And then, um, I've beenarrested twice, once when I was
17, once when I was 18, nothingbig.
When I was 18, I like walkedinto a store and stole a 30 pack
of beer, walked out the copthat got me was the one that
hated me growing up.
He showed up.
I was like suck my dick, tookme in.

(05:28):
But then, like I said, once Istarted getting into fitness and
shit like that, I realized thatI was drinking a lot and
partying and smoking a lot ofweed and I was like, well, this
is affecting the gains, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Definitely so.
Gains, bro, you know what I'msaying, definitely so.
That really helped me mature alittle bit more.
And then, like I said, Istarted going to school and then
I kind of got out of that,those bad habits.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Now did you have a criminal record that would
eventually come up during yourhiring process?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, yeah, for sure I had bad.
You know I had a street biketoo when I was 16, 17, had my
license suspended, driving likea dick.
But it's all about time, right?
So they look at the backgroundinvestigators what you've done
since you stopped that behavior.
So I went to college.
I got a bachelor's degree.
My driving history was clean bythe time I graduated the
academy.
Like what have you done to showus that you're maturing and

(06:16):
becoming more responsible, right?
So I didn't have any majorhiccups that like prevented me
once I finally did get hired forobviously to to get in the job
no felonies or crazy shit is it?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
uh?
Did you know anybody in thedepartment for like word of
mouth purposes or references?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
no, um, I didn't.
But when I graduated theacademy I got hired right away
as a probation officer inmendocino county, so I just took
that as an in.
Then I got to kind of know somepeople and then they just
picked me up.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Was that a peace officer position?
The probation yeah, it was.
So what do you get?
You get a gun and a badge.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, so uh, yeah, basically I had a caseload of
just random nonsense.
You know, drug offenders,domestic violence guys, um, and
you know, go out and searchtheir search theirings, have
them come in p test them, and itwas such a small town.
It was so awkward, bro, becausetwo of these dudes on my
caseload when I was brand newwere like two of my best friends

(07:15):
growing up.
Yeah, one of them was a fuckingstraight tweaker and the other
one was on probation for beatingup his his, uh, girlfriend, and
I'm like this is really fuckingawkward, but sounds about white
yeah, sounds about rightstraight up.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, pun intended, yeah, pun intended,
bro.
Yeah, so what kind of drugswere prevalent up there?
Was it the methamphetamines?
What else was in that area?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
yeah, so when I was growing up it was just weed.
Everyone was smoking weed, butuh, yeah, these days a lot of
meth then it was probably likethe old school weed huh.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, as opposed to what's now.
Yeah, it was shit.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, it was shit, but yeah, now it's straight.
Just meth, fentanyl, all thegood shit.
Yeah, standard issue.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
So how was it doing the probation gig?
Was it fulfilling for you, orwere you like nah, I'm missing
something else.
Or was that always part of yourplan to go to become a cop?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
No, dude, it was just .
They offered me a job and Ijust took it while I was still
in the process, with a couple ofplaces, um, but no, it wasn't
fulfilling at all.
I wanted the fun, dude, Iwanted the chases, I wanted the
crazy shit and to be an actualcop.
But the main reason is I did ascliche and kind of cringe as it
sounded I did want to helppeople and I wanted to.

(08:28):
I had reflected back on copsthat I interacted with growing
up and I wanted to make surethat I was not going to be like
those guys Nice, they couldn'tdevelop rapport to save their
lives with anybody in thecommunity, couldn't talk to
people like they were humans,and so I kind of wanted to go a
different route.
With that have you?

Speaker 1 (08:45):
always been a risk taker.
Yeah, Every time or sinceyou've since the beginning,
since you've known.
Yeah, how do you feel about?
How do you feel about takingrisks, cause a lot of people are
risk adverse and don't evenwant to try for, for various
reasons fear of failure, man,you miss a hundred percent of
the shots you don't take.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Dude, you know what I'm saying.
Like I always had that mindsetwhere what's the worst that's
going to happen someone's goingto tell me, no, I'm not going to
get that job or I'm not goingto get this.
You know, when I moved out tola, to to pursue acting, and I'm
like what's the worst that'sgoing to happen?
I've already been through theworst facts.
That's how.
That's how I looked at it.
I'm like this is fuckingDisneyland, bro, all of it.

(09:25):
You know what I'm saying, yeah,so no, I agree, man, I agree.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
So how long were you a probation officer before you
became?
What was the next step afterthat?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, so the timeline I graduated college in like
2012.
And then, shortly after that, Iput myself through the Academy,
got hired as a PO and then itwasn't very long dude.
It was like less than a yearwhere I got picked up as a
deputy with the sheriff's officeand the vast majority of that
time I spent as a residentdeputy.
So I policed an entire townalone in the national forest and

(09:56):
the nearest backup was like anhour away.
When I first lived out there,there was like one X on the cell
phones.
We didn't have internet, yeah,and it was predominantly native
American reservation.
Then you had the cartel dudesfrom Mexico up there paying the
natives to grow on tribal land,and that was just battle after
battle, after homicide, afterwhatever.
I had a canine too, so I was acanine handler.

(10:18):
And then, um, I did that for along time, got majorly burnt out
up here, and then I was kind ofburnout coming from just
cumulative fucking trauma, bro.
You know what I'm saying.
Like, just you know, cause,cause that that post.
Well, first of all, it's themost dangerous place in the

(10:40):
entire County, like we had a copget smoked up there.
We had a couple of dudes thatlived out there before me, both
shot themselves, died and um it,you know, just for the safety
element, right?
So, uh, working at anassignment like that for that
long it's just very stressfuland taxing.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Dude, let me do it Like I was just about to ask you
, like how sketchy is that?
You're up there with NativeAmericans.
You're by yourself, fuckingzero phone coverage, zero comms,
probably with a dispatcher ofany sort.
Your nearest help is probablyhow far away, is it?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
If someone's hauling ass 45 minutes, well, so I'd get
dude.
I was getting in pursuitsweekly out there, bro, by
yourself.
Oh yeah, fuck yeah, dude, likefour to and I'm not trying to
sound cool, bro, no no, say itbro.
Yeah, this is just facts.
Everyone's like, oh, the guy'strying to sound like he's a
badass.
No, no, no, I'm just, I'll juststay in the facts, all right,

(11:33):
there's a lot of better copsthan I was, for sure, okay, yeah
, so I'd get in a pursuit, youknow, and dispatch would be like
, or you know, those thingslasted like five, ten minutes
max and go to calls thatrealistically, I needed four
other dudes with me.
Right, you go to a loan.
You go to a domestic violencecall.
You know one of the like themale half's like beating down

(11:57):
the door with a fucking axeChicks inside, and you got to go
to that and deal with that.
You know what I'm saying Alone.
And you know I would justcancel.
I'm like we're going to seeanother unit and I'm like
there's no point Because ifanything bad is going to happen,
it's going to be within thefirst 20 fucking seconds.
I get there.
You know what I'm saying, youdon't strike me as a dummy man.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
You're very smart and privy.
How much do you have to useyour mind in situations?
It's your best weapon bro sowhat were some things you would
look for?
Like you just said, man, you'relike, hey, if something bad's
gonna happen, it's gonna happenwithin the first 20 seconds.
Yeah, what kind of shit wouldyou see where, like, oh fuck,
where your spidey senses wouldgo off, or what kind of approach
is oh fuck, everything, bro,like it was.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I think that part of the burnout too is my adrenaline
was jacked 24 7 and it nevercame down.
So everyone had guns out there.
It was all the indian pridedudes, the nortenio shot callers
with the xiv across the fuckingthroat, um, and those guys were
my best snitches too, were they?
Oh yeah, but you, dude, thattook years, bro, to get in with

(12:58):
those prison guys like that,yeah, but they're all make
manufacturing their own shittyRes, aks and ARs and all that
bullshit.
Nobody has a driver's license,and so you had to police it way
differently.
First of all, I can't be outthere pulling over people and
writing them little dorky-ass,fucking sir.
You don't have a front licenseplate and it's some dude with
like face tattoos that just gotout of prison after 20 fucking

(13:20):
years.
Right, because they know whereI live, because I live in town
after 20 fucking years.
Right, cause they know where Ilive, cause I live in town, and
it was in a little shitty shack,basically, with no insulation
and froze my ass off, and theywould, if we had prior cops out
there, do?
They would get like drive-byson their crib, dude, you know
what I'm saying oh yeah, uh, oneguy in particular.
So and, like I said, one gotsmoked out there.
So you have to treat you dothis anyway Everybody with

(13:43):
fucking respect, you know thatlike in the prison system.
So I had to handle shitdifferently.
So I pull them over for alittle bullshit, even if they're
on parole, they're driving on asuspended license, I don't
fucking care, I'm not doing shitwith that.
I'm going to say I'll see youlater.
You know what I'm saying?
Or that you owe me one Strategy, oh, oh yeah, and spirit of the

(14:21):
law.
But and there was like twohouses right on the res and the
call was there was like a 415,so a verbal disturbance between
two families there.
And I show up and there's like10 family members at one another
same shit, like big monster,motherfuckers.
You know some of these dudes.
And I show up like hey, how'sit going?
Everyone you know like brandnew rookie cop and they're all

(14:43):
like fuck you white, you, whiteboy, what the fuck are you doing
on the res?
This is tribal, you see, yougot to deal with that.
Oh, you got to deal with that.
That's one of the things.
Yeah, because people get ittwisted too.
So California is a public law280 state meaning that the
sheriff's office has ultimatejurisdiction over reservation
land.
It's not like Wyoming, theDakotas, montana, so we had the

(15:04):
ultimate jurisdiction, meaningthat, like the tribal police,
there were basically justsecurity guards.
They didn't have powers ofarrest, so we dealt with
literally every crime.
Good information on the res.
Yeah, I didn't even know that.
Yeah, cause a lot of otherplaces like Wyoming, um, they
have their own tribal cops thathave like kind of peace officer
power, so to speak, and the onlytime an outside law enforcement

(15:24):
entity will come in is formajor crimes like homicide,
kidnapping, shit like that.
That's generally going to bethe fbi bro your life.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
This experience reminds me of grand theft auto
bro it was literally grand theftauto you got fucking crazy
native americans on that firewater.
You got nortenual, fucking nfmembers.
You got fucking white methaddicts.
Oh yeah, bro, was it like that?

Speaker 2 (15:49):
yeah, hey, don't get me wrong.
There was like a lot of goodpeople out there, including um
dude.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I was cool as fuck with the guys I was arresting
bro, but as a cop, you're as acop, I would imagine you're not
dealing with the best ofhumanity in general.
I'm assuming you deal with youknow you get those calls where
you have to show up um enforcethe law yeah, no 100, bro.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
So how I, how I worked it out, there is I wasn't
just letting shit go left andright, it was, and especially
when um bag of shit gavin newsomstarted decriminalizing
everything, bro, and so I reallyhad to.
You have to alter your tactics,right.
Right, but I was just goingafter, but even before that,
what was a major quality of lifeissue or like major crimes and

(16:30):
shit like that?
You know, definitely handlingbusiness, and people knew that I
would right and because I gaverespect and they knew that I was
going to do my job when it camedown to it, I generally got
that in return and I was prettycool with fucking everybody.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Now, at this point in time, are you still maintaining
your physical fitness level?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh fuck, yeah, You're fucking killing it.
Oh yeah, dude, like there wasno excuse.
I hated that shit, dude.
I worked with a couple of fatmotherfuckers and they'd drive
me nuts because they were justlike an officer safety issue,
bro.
And yeah, there was no.
So I was working, you know, 12to 16 hour days and shit, and
sometimes it's on duty.
Sometimes I'm waking up at 3 amand I'm fucking, even if it's a
30 minute workout, but I alwayseat really healthy too.

(17:09):
These guys are like one of mypartners like his lunch would be
like a fucking gas station,fucking you know thing of donuts
and a Red Bull.
And I'm like, dude, you'reliterally going to have a heart
attack Absolutely, while we'regoing to have a heart attack
while we're going to the mostbasic call and we're going to
run into an issue Absolutely.
Um.
So yeah, you have to.
But working out also helped mestay in the game longer, like

(17:32):
mentally.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, dude, it sounds taxing, man.
I mean just, I was never there,but just hearing these stories.
Like I said, I'm hearing thisfor the first time.
Dude, I didn't realize it waslike that up there.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, bro, you know, time dude, I didn't realize it
was like that up there.
Yeah, bro, you know.
And so what's hard, though, isthat, like there's no days off,
dude, like, if I want to take aday off, the nearest town was an
hour away, that's 4 000population.
The next actual bigger town isan hour and a half away, and
then if I want to go tosomewhere where there's like
shit to do, that's like twohours out.
So right, so I'm really thereand I'm on call.
So you know you get called outat like two in out.
So right, so I'm really thereand I'm on call.
So you know you get called outat like two in the morning.
Hey, trent, so-and-so, just gotshot in the head on the res.
Go deal with it.
Suspect's outstanding.

(18:11):
So I got to go figure that outNow.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
during that period of time, was your leadership
decent, good?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
or was it a problem, Bro?
Leadership's a problem at 99.9%of agencies in America.
It was horrible.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Even your leadership was bad during those times.
Leadership Correct, yeah, ohfuck.
Yeah, see, I didn't.
I was as you're telling me thestory.
I'm thinking well fuck, maybethey gave him some slack, maybe
they gave him some leash.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
That is the only reason I probably stayed with
that agency as long as I did, soprobably stayed with that
agency as long as I did.
So I chose to quit that place.
By the way, I gave a month anda half notice, but, um, because
I was so effective out there, Imean, I got deputy of the year
in 2018, the community.
You were the only deputy brofor the whole department, bro,
but I mean, like, in the wholeCounty, I got deputy of the year

(18:59):
for that year, yeah, but like,uh, I would go to all the town
meetings and do all this shit.
I was going to the high schools, the middle schools, talking to
the kids, the principals, goingto the businesses.
Well, yeah, a place like that,it's only 1500 people.
You got a community police, theshit out of a place like that
to get to know everybody, andeveryone out there has fucking
nicknames, especially the prisonguys, right, so you got to

(19:19):
learn those, yeah, but um, thoseyeah, but um, no, the
leadership sucked, dude, butthey, uh, they left me alone
because, before I moved outthere, that was a major problem
area and I had a direct impacton the crime stats and the
community wasn't complaining asmuch to the sheriff.
So they just like turns outthere he'll figure it out.
He's nobody, he knows what he'sdoing so cool man, but that's

(19:43):
that to me.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's not like a good case scenario it helped.
Yeah, wow yeah, when theultimately.
Well, I know you mentioneddwellings.
Could you describe what adwelling looks like out in the
middle of fucking nowhere manwith like a mud hut?
Are there drug paraphernalia?
Is there a mess like?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
hoarders.
Yeah, so they had housing onthe res, bro, where the housing
authority would rent thoseplaces out.
But yeah, a lot of placespeople were living no
electricity, no running water,there's fucking holes in the
floor, there's human shit allover the place.
You got to watch where you'rewalking Just piles of trash in

(20:20):
the front yard broken down, carseverywhere, dogs, lots of res
dogs, bro, like just runningaround aimlessly.
You got to make sure you don'tget bit by those motherfuckers.
I always had like nine cans ofOC.
I had like a one time like acrazy goose.
Dude, those things are nastydude.
I try to me and my partner, tryto go to this house to fucking
see if this dude was there.

(20:41):
He had a warrant.
They hiss at you and I, dude,it wouldn't get out of the way.
So I was like you know, andthen it fucked off.
But yeah, all kinds of crazyshit bro.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
So like uh, dude, this is a good opportunity.
So like are you in the essencelike a detective as well?

Speaker 2 (20:58):
like there's a homicide and you got to solve
that fucking case um, yeah, sobecause we were so rural and we
only had like 65 sworn officersyou wear a lot of hats yeah, a
lot of bigger agencies, likelapd or, you know, new york,
whatever you have your ownseparate units for a lot of
things, right, property crimes,domestic violence units which

(21:20):
sounds really cool and fancyeven corners units.
So us on the street yeah, you'rea detective, we were the own
corner.
So when somebody died, dipshit,trent james, as a regular
street guy, you do the entiredeath investigation, from the
very start to the end, next token notification.
Wow, and you do that for years.
It sucks, wow, um, homicidesand shit.

(21:41):
You show up up front.
You take the initial, but thedetective unit will come in and
take those over.
But everything else, yeah, dude, like a lot of the sex crime
stuff and because they're shorttoo you know the detective
unit's really small they'reinundated with a whole bunch of
nonsense as well, so kind ofeveryone just has to to share
the case case work did you everhave to go to like a suicide

(22:04):
call or anything?
yo, yeah, I lost count on that,yeah really oh, fuck, yeah, yeah
, every way.
Uh, overdoses, hangings um amillion different ways people.
Somebody shot themselves, oneof which I went to.
The guy was still fucking alivedoing the snoring thing.
You know well.
Yeah, you shoot yourself in thehead, man.
A lot of times it doesn't gothe way you planned, correct, so

(22:25):
you shut up like and then youknow, he died too.
But, um, oh yeah, yeah, a lot,a lot of those, for sure,
jumping off of whatever thingsand what about?

Speaker 1 (22:36):
um, you know because I watched the first 48 hours
from time to time or shows wherethe fucking there'll be a dead
body for days, weeks, months.
You ever go to that shit Dude.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
yeah, those sucked bro, especially when it's like
the middle of summer, over 100degrees out Bro, I know this is
fucked up, but go ahead and walkus through an experience like
that man I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
before you enter a house, you start smelling shit
outside.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, like a telltale sign when you show up.
So generally it'll be like hey,I haven't heard from my uncle
in months and he lives alone.
Can you go check on him?
He lives in your county.
Sure, you go there.
It's 100 degrees outside.
You see like the windows areclosed, doors closed, and
there's fucking flies on theoutside of the window.

(23:16):
That's usually a sign someone'ssuper dead inside, right.
So you go in and someone's beencooking.
Yeah, a in there, dude, it ishorrendous the smell in there
and they get all bloated and fatand black.
A lot of times you have likemaggots and insects eating, you
know, in their eyes and theirmouths and their nose.
Sometimes their pets are eat,have been eating their limbs

(23:36):
because they're stuck inside andthere's nothing to eat.
Um, and then, yeah, then themortuary guys show up and you
have to help.
Uh, put them in the red bag andand then ship them off.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
It's dope do you think that would affect anybody
working that line of work?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
it affected me, right , right I just wasn't affecting
me as well.
I wasn't a pussy, and I canadmit it correct?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
no, that's fucking brave of you, man.
I'm glad you're.
This is why we're having thisconversation.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah, that shit drives me nuts, bro, the the
macho boomer dudes that I usedto work for to be like oh, just
suck it up, because, uh, one ofmy friends dude um, it was like
one of my close friends at thetime, deputy as well when I was
working, my shitty residentdeputy post bro um, I got a work
email and it said that he wassuspended from duty.

(24:22):
I was like what the fuck?
And it turns out he had.
Um, he came home from duty andI was like what the fuck?
And it turns out he had.
Um, he came home from dinnerwith his girlfriend, went in the
bathroom and just slammed afucking thing of heroin into his
arm and he almost died.
Um, they showed up in ourkingdom back to life but he was
just fucked Like.
He went to a bunch of fucked upshit and lost his marbles and
he was trying to kill himself.

(24:43):
But all the older dudes that Iworked for at the time like I'd
hear them be like oh, he's apussy, what's he crying about?
What the fuck?
That wouldn't have affected meand I'm like here's my whole
thing.
We all are brought updifferently Genetics, different
environments, differentsocioeconomic statuses and just

(25:04):
different walks of life,religion, all those kinds of
things, and our brain chemistrybecause we're not fucking robots
is all different, since we'rehumans.
Therefore, it is literally justbecause something affects
somebody, it's stupid to saythat it wouldn't affect that
other person.
Facts it doesn't even make anysense, facts.
So it's like yeah, bro, yousound really cool and macho
saying that.

(25:25):
But those guys that would saythat they were the biggest
alcoholics right, usuallybeating their wives divorced,
divorced two or three timesright, paying 12 1300 a month in
child support.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Facts um, it was just a giant hypocritical joke no,
you're right, so you're talkingabout like yeah, I see you, man
the ogs playing the tough guy.
Yeah, talking shit about thenew cop that couldn't handle the
trauma.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
However, their life is shit bro they're
self-medicating in their own way, bro.
A lot of them are doing pillstoo, behind closed doors,
drinking, getting blacked outdrunk six, seven days a week.
Some dudes I worked with werecome to work drunk as fuck.
I get it.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
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(26:30):
that, um, in law enforcementthere's a high suicide rate,
just as well as the military.
Do you believe in the lawenforcement side, that that is a
result of all those accumulatedtrauma?
Yes, really, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, dude, yes, really, oh yeah, yeah, dude,
it's um, yeah, it's tough, bro,because not all, but a lot of
cops I work, like I know when Iworked with like their personal
lives are a train wreck,dumpster fire, bro.
So there you know, we're goingto these calls.
Not that mine was perfect, butyou're going to these calls and
trying to educate adults on howto be adults, but then you go

(27:04):
home and your shit's fucked up.
It's even worse, and so it'slike how can you really lecture
people on anything?
But, yeah, so you go to theshift work where, dude, we were
so short-staffed always.
Most agencies are Six, sevendays a week for me and a lot of
guys I worked with 12-plus hourdays, no days off, no time for
anything.
Yeah, and a lot of guys Iworked with 12 plus hour days,

(27:25):
no days off, no time foranything.
You have shitty supervisors ontop of that that don't know shit
, that are on your assthreatening to write you up for
everything.
Going to these calls, that thecalls you go to, it's like most
of these people that are calling911.
It's literally the worst daythat they're ever going to have
in their entire life and yourdumb ass is there to deal with
it.
So you have to see and hear andsmell the worst things that,

(27:48):
like most people, only dreamabout in their nightmares.
You know what I'm saying, so youdo that for years and years and
years.
Your home life falls apartbecause you come home from a
13-hour day you had to deal withlike a dead kid, and your
girlfriend's like you know ohhey, how was your day, oh hey,
how was your day, and you'relike you go in the room and
close the door, then she leavesyou eventually.

(28:11):
I'm just saying in general,that's how usually a lot of this
shit happens and then you startdrinking a lot and that leads
to just bad shit and, yeah,sometimes dudes just smoke
themselves Just alone with yourpistol in the fucking house.
I worked a couple operationswith an FBI guy in the town that
I work because we were alwayshaving other outside agencies
come in the DEA task force guysand stuff just running major ops

(28:32):
out there that I would getattached to as well, like a lot
of the weed shit, and he was onthere a couple times and, yeah,
he just nasty divorce and toomuch stuff and he just smoked
himself in his county whip dudeor his federal car.
The FBI agent, yeah, yeah, andI think about that stuff

(28:54):
differently, bro.
Like I don't.
I understand it.
I understand it when you go toso many suicides and you talk to
so many families and friendsand you see it like that.
And then you see the lawenforcement side of the military
dudes.
Obviously that's reallyprevalent as well.
I fully understand and I do notjudge that at all correct.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I'm in the same boat and I once heard a psychologist
speak to us and tell us that,like we, we're all like a bucket
and if it gets too full,eventually that bucket's gonna
overflow.
Yeah, that's when you knowpeople make those drastic
decisions yeah, it happened tome too, bro.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I just I didn't.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
You know, I'm still here so you mentioned all this
overtime hours, all these extrashifts.
Did you also have to show up incourt?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
oh yeah, that too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And dude court for me was anhour and a half away for my no
way yeah bro, it was nuts yeahso you arrest somebody?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
holy shit, bro.
What did your jail look like?
Small tiny.
Yeah, was there a jail cell inthat motherfucker?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
yeah, they got cells in that bitch, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it was small small andshitty.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Is the jail the same place you book somebody into?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
yeah, it is yeah, yeah, so we would.
Yeah, take them.
Yeah, we don't.
We didn't take them to thestation.
Yeah, we would.
I didn't even have a station, Ijust I guess that's what I was
asking.
You guys didn't have a stationno, I mean, we had stations, but
we didn't take anybody therefor any reason it was just
straight to county jail straightto county, straight to fucking
jail, bro, okay yeah, and whatdo you do, man?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
you?
Do you just drop them off tothe deputies in there, or do you
have to like, do you have tostart doing anything?

Speaker 2 (30:27):
just not.
Maybe just fill out the bookingsheet.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Uh, hopefully you search their ass before you
fucking get there and there'slike not knives and shit and
drugs, you know do you watchthese videos on youtube of weird
shit happening with these cops,meaning like they didn't do a
correct pat down?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
yeah, I worked with some guys that had that happen
Really.
Yeah, this one guy that heworked at a neighboring agency
but same county.
He missed a whole ass bottle ofalcohol in this fool's pant leg
.
Bro booked him in, so he's astreet cop.
Arrested some guy, the COs, thecorrectional officers, once
they took custody of him in thejail were searching him and he

(31:02):
had a big ass bottle right herethat the cop just missed and
obviously you just get a bunchof shit for that.
He got in trouble, but you knowit's it's it's.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's a fine line because somebody could get
killed.
If it's a gun, a knife, yeah,it seems like in 2025, maybe
2024, a lot of these cops areinexperienced.
Um, do you watch that on theYouTube or anything like that?
Or you don't really watch thosetypes of videos dude I a little

(31:33):
bit.
I don't really watch cop stuffto be honest with you, kind of
had your fucking, you lived italready.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, yeah, like my girlfriend, she likes to watch,
uh like the body cam videos andshit you don't like watching
them.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Did you guys have body cameras in your area?
No, that's a good thing, right?
Or or would you not have mindedthem?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
um, I didn't have.
I didn't dude, in all the yearsI was a cop I didn't generate
one complaint from a member ofthe public, right, just because
how I treated everybody right.
But uh, we just didn't have aman.
They just recently got him,within the last couple years, I
think, up there.
I don't know if it was a moneyissue.
I know the sheriff was veryadamant, the new one that works

(32:15):
there now I'm in Decino County.
He's a piece of shit and hecame out publicly and said I
don't want my deputies to havebody cams.
I'm like why?
Why is that?
When I lateral to a PD, when Iwas a patrol Sergeant, we had
them, um, at that department,but for us, yeah, I wouldn't
have minded them.
I mean, there was a lot of shit, like a lot of conversations
that you just it doesn't matterto me, um, but like when I'm

(32:40):
talking to my informants anddoing shit like that, like I
don't want to film that bro, I'mtrying to protect their privacy
, dude Cause, like if I were todime them out, that could get
them killed.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, it's an ethical thing.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
There's some cops or there'ssome agencies that don't give a
fuck about the informants andthey don't give a fuck, careless
, if they get them killed, bro,like that is like one of the
most crucial assets I had,because out there there wasn't a
lot of like there was nosecurity cameras.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
There was.
If somebody gets stabbed onHollywood Boulevard, like where
I live now, there's going to be400 people that see it.
There's fucking cameraseverywhere, right, but out there
there's no light pollution, soyou could see a full sky of
stars and there's not.
It's so rural and just woods,right.
It's so rural and just woods,right.
So there's nobody around.
And there was a lot of shitthat nobody was around to see.
So I had to rely on those dudeslike hey, did you hear about

(33:28):
this?
Yeah, okay, what happened?
I was this guy and then, so Ihad to solve all those crimes
like that oh damn dude, so youwere like doing old school
policing straight up.
yeah, it was.
It was like, for example, likeon a night shift, two of my
partners uh, uh, we're out inthe town I worked with called
Covolo, also known as roundValley, so they had someone
broke into a local Napa autothing, stole a generator it's

(33:51):
like a couple thousand dollars,cameras didn't work, no one saw
shit.
They show up and take thereport.
I come on shift and they'relike dude, we don't even know
how to to begin to do this.
And an hour and a half later Iarrested the guy that did it and
I got the generator back.
Hell yeah, with no information.
But that's just because youhave to know the game exactly.
You're like the fucking trainingday bro yeah, well, again, lots

(34:12):
of guys can do that and lots ofguys did do that before my time
.
I'm just saying that's whatthat takes to be successful oh,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, I get it.
100.
Now, since we're talking aboutyour style, was there people
that didn't have your style,like maybe squares, or yeah, I
will write you that ticket ordidn't know how to communicate
effectively with people?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
yeah, not really that .
I worked with bro.
I found that each agency hasits own personality.
Like police department guys aredifferent than deputies and
different than highway guys arethey?
in my opinion.
Yeah, it's just a different, adifferent breed, bro, like chp
guys, a lot of those dudes.
I got pulled over a coupletimes while I was still in law

(34:54):
enforcement and those guyscannot not all of them, because
I got a couple close friendsthat are chp but they cannot
talk to people properly to savetheir fucking life, bro, bro,
like when I was a cop, I alwayshad nice cars, dude, and I was
mobbing down the road one day,um, in my Range Rover, and I had
a white tank top on.
I know what I look like.
I look like I'm selling Coke.

(35:14):
Yeah, all right, but I wasstill a deputy at the time.
So I get pulled over by ahighway guy in the middle of the
day.
I had crossed over a line asecond.
So when he comes up to myvehicle, I had already rolled
everything down because myshit's tented.
He approaches and he's like sowhat was all that about?
Back there I don't even get ahello or anything.
What the fuck just started theinteraction?

(35:37):
Like that younger dude, clearlya fucking rookie, and I was
like you have no fucking cluewho you're talking to, bro.
But I was like what are youtalking about?
And he's like, oh, you crossedthe yellow line.
And I'm like, oh, sorry aboutthat, I was texting.
And he's like, okay.
He's like, well, what's up?
All of this tent on your car,see what I mean?
And I'm like, what the fuck?
Just straight up and I can saythat because I this point Right.

(36:01):
He's like did you pay to havethat put on, or was it like that
when you bought it, thinkingI'm going to lie?
I'm like, no, I paid to havethis shit put on.
I know it's illegal.
And he was so confused becausesomebody is telling him the
truth, absolutely.
And I was like, hey bro, Idon't know where the fuck this
is going, but I haveanbrotherhood dude he code for a
code for them and he took offand then it was like a normal

(36:29):
interaction and then he let mego.
But if I had not been a cop hewould have definitely written me
up for everything.
And that's my point, man, I'mlike why do you got to be a
right out the gate?
Yeah, cause of my parents.
Another dude pulled me over CHPSame car that I was driving at
the time and he ran me and hefound out I was a cop later.
He was a lot nicer.

(36:50):
But when he looked at me at theconclusion of the stop he was
like oh, you're really lookingthe part today.
That's why I pulled you over.
I'm like I know why you pulledme over.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
What the fuck You're really looking the part today.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, because he profiled me, Because my plates
came back to that town I livedin, which is known for, you know
, rapscallions and prison dudesand shit, and I'm all tatted out
in a nice-ass car.
He thought I was fucking movingweight, probably right Damn so.
But yeah, and they tell youthat you know when the
interaction's done so in thatarea are there people driving

(37:22):
nice cars pushing mad weight?
Oh, fuck.
Yeah, there is 150 000 trucks,the big ass ones jacked up, with
those fat fucking wheels onthem.
It's all weed money now arethey like?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
a lot of the mexican dudes but is it one of those
things where they just leavethem alone until they do commit
an infraction?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
well, so those dudes don't mob around with like
pounds and pounds in their whip.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
They're the ones that are overseeing a lot of the
operations but every but it's awell-known fact that those guys
are connected.
Yes, yeah, um, it depends.
What do their homes look like?
Mansions, ranches?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
no, a lot of times they were just living in regular
houses, dude.
So so they spent all theirtheir dough on like cars and
motorcycles and random shit, Idon't know.
Um, some of them were prettybig balling, but the dudes that
were they, you know they'd getother people to do that for them
.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Now this timeframe that you worked in that area
around the weed, what was thefederal laws with marijuana it
had?
They had already been.
It was still illegal illegal.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, illegal it still is.
It's just that, um yeah.
So when I first started, weedwas a felony in the state of
California, like to cultivate,to have over a certain weight in
your, in your vehicle and allthis sort of thing.
And then, you know, at the tailend of my time it became
basically legal or a very shittylittle misdemeanor.
Right, and the only time itwould turn into a felony is if

(38:43):
you had prior convictions forsales.
You were a sex registrant orsomething like that.
Like if you were caught withsales for weed.
But, dude, I was pulling overU-Hauls with like undocumented
Mexicans that were just drivingout of town with like just
pounds and pounds and pounds,and a lot of times you're just
letting them go.
What, yeah, toward the tail end.

(39:04):
Because it's like that's stilltechnically a misdemeanor, right
, they could have a thousandpounds in that thing, unless
they have something else goingon.
And, like, what am I going todo?
Am I going to go book that shitin?
I can't even fit it in my car.
Tow the U-Haul and all that.

(39:32):
Now, encouraging factors for youto want to leave the department
seeing the crimes change.
Yeah, it got toward the end.
I mean, I mostly was mental,but, um, that was a large
component of it because Istopped, I realized I wasn't
able to really do my job anymore.
Right, we're going to calls andpeople are getting mad at me
because I'm the face they see,and I totally understand that.
Like, hey, why did this guybreak into my house?
You couldn't even arrest him,or you did arrest him and he got
out the same day back whenthere was no bail.
Thanks, newsome.
Um, fucking asshole dude.

(39:53):
Fuck that guy anyway.
Uh, but I saw that real time onthe street, bro, all those laws
that were ceasing to exist, allthe guys that were coming out
of prison for the nonviolentoffenses yeah, it was AB 109,
Prop 57, it was 47.
Yeah, and I'm like what peopledon't understand is the vast
majority of the crimes on thestreet that affects your
day-to-day are quality of lifeissues.

(40:15):
They are not violent crimes.
The homicides and all thatcrazy shit.
Those are usuallyperson-specific.
It's a very personal situationPeople breaking into houses,
stealing cars, getting superhigh and squirrely on meth and
doing a bunch of randomshenanigans that affects, like,
the regular citizen.
Those aren't going to be theviolent offenses.
So just letting all thosepeople out we all saw it on the

(40:37):
street just go through.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
What did you see?
What was the difference?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
All crime increased and I was arresting guys.
They like, bro trent, like I'mgonna be out.
This one guy fucking he's likeI'm gonna be out by the time
before you even finish yourfucking report.
Homie, I'm like facts, I agree,I don't even know what the fuck
I'm doing anymore, bro, I don'teven know what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
And that dude was a bad motherfucker dude.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Right when he got out he went back out and did a
drive-by same day ak-47 dudejust up some dude's house, got
him again, went back in.
Do this one.
This one girl on the res, bro,uh, this was my case.
She.
She's in prison now because, uh, for another double homicide
out there.
But, um, she stabbed this girlon the res seven times in the

(41:24):
back with a fucking kitchenknife.
Dude Like da da da had it onvideo.
She went into prison,chowchilla, for 18 months and
she was on parole when she didthat.
Comes back out.
Some time goes by and I heard afew of her homies all of which
I knew was part of that case tookilled two people with a

(41:44):
fucking axe to the face, one ofwhich was one of my partner's
brothers and his girlfriend.
Really, yeah, were theyinvolved in?
No, no, no, no, he didn'treally talk to his brother like
that because he was involved inlike some weed shit, but it's
like, yeah, good, call on that,you know I mean, we've seen it
yeah but it's like's.
Like, yeah, I'm just like I'mputting my life on the line now,

(42:05):
but I can't even help peoplereally, because they're getting
out right away or in somecircumstances, you can't even
arrest them.
So people that had likemisdemeanor warrants, you know,
I contact somebody on the street, I run them out.
Dispatch is like oh, they havea misdemeanor warrant for their
arrest.
No sight Meaning, they have amisdemeanor warrant for their
arrest.
No sight Meaning.
A judge signed an order sayingyou cannot cite and release that
person.

(42:25):
They want to be seen.
Wow, but when all that shitchanged, our administration said
no, we're still not taking them, just leave them or cite them
on the no site.
It was wild, bro, it was wild.
It's almost like they wantedAmerica to fail, yeah, but but
all the criminals most of themare not insanely stupid, so they

(42:46):
know that.
Right, they're like dude, I canpretty much do it or the fuck I
want.
Now, like, the consequences areway less.
Let me ask you this like whatis the incentive for them not to
do the same shit?
Right, they don't have onecorrect.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, now I know you mentioned coming across drugs,
like in in houses and in stops,but what about fields?
Or, like the growing part, theagricultural?
Were you coming?

Speaker 2 (43:08):
across that shit.
I was always in grows, bro.
Yeah, everyone had grows outthere.
Are they armed?
Do they have armed security?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Armed security, Well you know what I mean.
I can imagine like a bicep withan AK-47 or something.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got a lot of
dudes like that man.
Yeah, so where I live, bro,like because it was so quiet at
night, right, and I was kind ofin the middle of town, so at
nighttime it sounded like a warzone.
It's likedo-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do
it just fire off fully autoguns into there, a cause.

(43:42):
They were all high on fuckinggoof crystals like meth and shit
, but also letting peoplewarning them don't come over
here and fuck with our crop,Right, so, but that was every.
I lived right next door to afat grow.
Really, yeah, it's like youreally couldn't avoid it.
And those dudes were cool, Likeyou know I.

(44:08):
Yeah, there wasn't any problemsat that one.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
But yeah, dude right behind my house on a dirt road
some dude got smoked in thefucking head broad daylight over
just some weed nonsense.
Was there ever any multi agencylike takedowns of those groves
that you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah, yeah, they would come in, yeah, we would
get Would it be the DEA?
Dea deputies from outside,counties, fbi, yeah, just a lot
of outside.
And yeah, we would cometogether out there.
And then, you know, I would gowith them as well, because I
knew the area.
Like a lot of those roads, bro,didn't even have names, like I

(44:37):
had to make them up and telldispatch hey, this is what this
is gonna be called.
Yeah, bro, you just have toknow, just like you know like
hey, uh, like this one guy'snickname was fucking poop.
It's like, hey, bro, like poopcommitted like some dude, I'd go
to a call, right, I'd be like,okay, who did this?
Oh, poop did it.
And I'm like, who the fuck ispoop when I'm a rookie, right,
they're like, uh, I actuallydon't know his real name.

(44:58):
And I'm like, well, I gotta gofind this motherfucker poop
right now, bro.
And so there's a lot of.
You just have to figure allthat out too.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
So, as you're kicking ass and taking names and living
the fucking life of Grand TheftAuto, bro, and Far Cry, the
video game Far Cry, I play videogames, man.
This is reminding me of almostlike the hills have eyes, in a
way, with gangs and, and yeah,drugs and violence, yeah, and
cops.
Uh, are you expected to remainproficient in your training and

(45:28):
weapons qualification?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
you're expected to yeah that answered your question
yeah, I mean, I just dry firedevery day.
Um, I, I trained, uh, mixedmartial arts for you like during
college and shit for years, soI knew how to handle myself and
you know this too.
But, um, you're getting sizedup by those, those, the real

(45:51):
ones, like this dude.
So if you're a shit sloppy oruniform, um, you look like
you're out of shape, you don'thave any command presence.
You're going to get eaten alivein a matter of seconds, right?
So they, they know that theycan get that over you.
So, maintaining a certain levelof fitness, command presence,
being clean-shaven, looking likeyou take care of yourself, that

(46:13):
goes miles.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Could you elaborate for the crowd, especially these
new law enforcement officers,what command presence is and
what it's not meaning?
What it's not is like hey, youdon't have to act fucking tough
or pretend there's somebody.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
You're not yeah, and I think that that's where a lot
of people get it twisted.
Man, you don't need to walk upto somebody and be like, hey,
what's up, bitch, sit the fuckdown, right.
No, you're not going to getanywhere like that, bro.
I will say, some people need toget talked to like that and
that's the only language theyunderstand.
Correct, but command presenceis.
You know pretty much just whatI said.
Do like having a nice tailoreduniform.

(46:51):
Don't look sloppy, don't havefucking shit all over your boots
.
Look like you are in some sortof decent shape.
You know, like I said, if youhave hair which I you know,
obviously don't make sure it'slike nice and tidy and neat.
Uh, some departments allowbeards, but if you do have one,
make sure just like.
Look like you take care ofyourself and you know what the

(47:11):
fuck you're doing.
And when you talk, just treatpeople with respect.
Act like you know what you'retalking about.
Dude, some calls.
I had no fucking clue what Iwas doing, but you better act
like you know what you're doing.
You know what I'm saying, butit's just like.
Uh, it's more of an attitudetoo, man, just, you're in charge
of that situation and peoplehave to listen to you and don't
be.
You know, when someone's talkingto you, like those guys, like

(47:31):
dude, like when I was a rookie,this dude, middle of the night,
riding his shitty little BMXbicycle down the middle of the
road, he was like 45.
I didn't know who he was.
I'm like, oh, I'll stop thatguy.
He's committing a crime.
Tattoos, big native guy tattooseverywhere.
So, right, so I pulled him overin my crown Vic, may she rest

(47:54):
in peace.
And um, right, when he gets offhis BMX bike, he's like what the
fuck do you want, motherfucker?
Right, when I step out of thecar and I'm like, all right,
well, you better sit the fuckdown, bitch, I'm going to fuck
you up.
So that's how you have to talkto that guy.
Right, right, when I did, hesat on the ground, crossed his
ankles and muscle memory, yeah,right.
Then I walk over and I'm likeyo, so what's up, man?
Like what's the issue?
And I take it down, right, andI start talking to him, calm.
And then he comes down and he'slike, oh, my bad, bro, you know

(48:16):
my bad, you're.
You seem cool, but if you waver, you know what I mean, or you
flinch in a second.
They're going to see that youknow what I mean and you're
going to get fucked up.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I'm really surprised you were able to pick that up
like working in the streets man,because I've heard a lot of
people that worked inside ofjails or prisons say hey, I'm
glad I started there because Ilearned how to maneuver like
that.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Dude, where I worked, you get like 80 years
experience in a week.
So you just it's not.
You know, I do it a lot oftrial and error, bro.
Yeah, I fucked up a lot ofcalls, so, but I also, just from
my upbringing, I had thatmentality anyway and I wasn't
gonna let somebody talk to melike that.
You know what I mean, okay, soit's kind of like my natural
instinct, right.
And then, you know, I did havesome decent um, ftos, field

(49:03):
training officers, that kind ofone in particular.
He's dead now, but he hadworked in that area before me
and he had told me like hey,this is kind of how this shit
works out here.
Dude, you're not in fuckingKansas anymore.
You has its own rules on theres, you are in charge, but you
have to abide by that.
You have to understand Right,and it's not mean like they

(49:25):
don't tell me what to do.
I'm not letting shit go, that Idon't want to, but it's just a
different world.
Oh, I get it, yeah, yeah, justlike inside is too.
You have a different rule,right, rules of operation in
there, correct, yeah, and thenthey have their own rules.
Exactly that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah so what would you tell a new police
officer that said like hey,trent, I'm new to the job, man,
I have fucking zero experience,but I have this fear.
I have this fear of I don'teven know how to establish
command presence.
Don't be a cop.
I'm glad you said that man.
Don't be a cop.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
I'm glad you said that when something that kind of
drives me nuts is these nerdreddit keyboard warrior trolls.
That's the.
That's what you signed up for.
They're fucking just fat asfuck eating cheetos in their
mom's basement and shit.
Yeah, I didn't sign up for alot of things that I had to see,
bro, right, because you don'tknow, and no academy, no
training can prepare you enoughmentally for what you're going

(50:16):
to undertake.
It didn't for me, um, becausethere's every call is different.
You know what I'm saying, butwhat I will say is I went into
it with the mentality Like I'mgoing to just deal with this
shit Whatever's going to come myway.
So if you don't have that, youshouldn't be a fucking cop
because you're going to getkilled or hurt, or you're going
to get somebody else killed oryour partner, yeah, or an
innocent person, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Do you think that?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
bad guys can sense that in somebody.
100, that's what I mean, bro,those ones that are that have
been in and out of the systemtheir whole life they sniff that
shit out in two fucking seconds.
Man, I'm telling you they'refucking pros, dude.
Yeah, because once I got coolwith a lot of those guys, um,
especially my, my informants,bro.
Um, because that's how youlearn.
You ask questions, facts.

(50:59):
Every meth addict I came across, even the thousands, you know,
know in my in my time, hey, bro,how long you been smoking meth?
How often do you smoke meth?
How much does it cost you tobuy it every time?
Cause that's how you developyour training and experience,
right?
So the other dudes, I'd be likeyo.
So you know, you have thoseconversations and they would
admit to the fact like dude,yeah, we, these fucking rookie

(51:21):
guys, we can tell in two secondsthat they're gonna fucking make
it out here.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
You know what sucks man is that, with the current
culture or climate that wasgoing on, it pushed all the good
cops out, man.
Yeah, bro, because I can tellyou were fucking great at your
job, dude, just from having thisconversation.
It's like those are the peoplethat got pushed out, bro,
because they can no longerstomach it.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah uh, dude, most of my my, my homies I worked
with that were barn burners dude, like, just kind of like me, um
, just goons.
We were goons.
We're street goons, bro, right,so it just was.
It is what it is like.
We didn't like the commandstaff.
We did our own thing and wearrested the actual bad guys.
We protected the fuckinginnocent people when we could

(52:02):
and we did our jobs and we'reall gone, most of us.
A couple of my other homiestheir brain doesn't work right
anymore either that I workedwith their medical retired out
for psych, um, some injury.
But, yeah, they're, they did,bro, and a lot of it is
administrative base to guys thatleave.

(52:23):
But the current climate yeah, Ihad people when I was still
running my podcast they'd hit meup that I didn't even know,
right, they'd be like hey, trent, I'm thinking about getting
into law enforcement.
Don't do it, bro, right, andthey'll do it.
I'm telling you you missed theshit.
Those times are gone.
You know what I mean?
That's a good way of putting it, dude.

(52:43):
Yeah, sorry, like it just iswhat it is facts.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Do something else yeah, and there ain't no shame
in that either man.
It's not that we're like you'reputting anybody down, you're
just keeping it real, like, hey,dude, probably go do something
else, you're gonna be better off, you're gonna better quality of
life.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Yeah, I'm like, if you want to do it, go do it.
I'm just you asked my opinion,right, go work at costco, bro.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I mean.
So earlier in this segment wetalked about common sense.
How you love some common sense.
Well, while you're working foryou went over the sheriff's, or
during your law enforcementcareer, were you watching the
administration lack the commonsense?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, bro, because none of those people had the
qualifications.
They shouldn't have been inthose positions Then how did
they get there?
They shouldn't have been inthose positions, then how did
they get there?
So the longer I worked thereand this is part of the reason I
left at the Mendocino CountySheriff's Office, the more I
found out.
So all of my lieutenants wereundocumented felons, all right.

(53:42):
One of them got fired before hegot hired at my agency for
sexually assaulting a woman onduty.
So he got fired later, throughhis daddy and his mommy, who
were supervisors at my agency,hired him.
This was back in like 99, right.
These guys are all in their midforties, early fifties, right.
Another one got fired from hisfirst agency for having sex with
a I think she was 14 or 15 yearold girl while he was a cop.

(54:02):
Sex with a I think she was 14or 15 year old girl while he was
a cop, terminated or, I'm sorry, got to quit in lieu of never
went to court.
Another one was a prior Nortenofucking kind of wannabe Norteno
gang member.
Used to sell a lot of meth inhis 20s, got hooked up.
So, like a lot of guys, thatgot.
And another one, he was runningour IAs, bro, and he had gotten

(54:25):
fired from his prior agency forhitting somebody with his
patrol car.
Their vehicle lied about it inhis IA and got fired because his
dad-in-law was the captain atmy agency the father-in-law.
He later got a job there.
But it's like you're a Bradyissue already, homie, you
fucking lied in your own IA butyou're putting guys in is so it

(54:45):
was just like the more I learned, you know, but that I felt that
the, the, the undersheriff andthe sheriff, they wanted guys
that they could control, guysthat they have dirt on.
It's better to have that.
Yes, men, company men, guysthat couldn't get hired anywhere
else, and this was very.
That was all my, all mysupervisors.

(55:07):
I had a one-on-one talk with mycaptain before I left because
he was okay and I'm like, bro,I'm dipping out, you're fucked,
cause that town out there isgoing to go to shit.
I'm lateraling to the PD and,um, he, he understood and he
agreed with me about hislieutenants, but nothing changed
.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
You know, what's crazy is that as you lifted off
all these LTs and it's like one,I'm pretty sure they're facts,
which you just said, but alsoI'm not really surprised, which
is a scary thing.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
It's nationwide.
It's a nationwide issue, dude.
I've talked to cops in multipleStates, especially during my
time doing the podcast, and weall have the same complaints
about our admin facts.
And these dudes you look intheir careers never did anything
substantial on the fuckingstreet, bro, facts and and
they're they're just bitches atthe end of the day, and I think
a lot of it like shit that Iwould get, especially from one

(55:59):
of my lieutenants, andrew Porterjust a pile of shit.
He would try to take credit fora lot of things that I did and
detectives did, cause he used torun that unit too, and those
guys would tell me that in therejust to make himself look
better, but they just didn'tknow what they were doing,
absolutely.
And he would try to tell me howto do my job in a town that he
visited maybe twice.
And I'm like, bro, I'm livinghere full time and I have for

(56:20):
years like you don't know whatthe fuck you're talking about.
And I had to tell him that I'mlike I'm not going to do
whatever you tell me to dobecause it's going to have a
negative impact on thatcommunity and those people and
you're doing it wrong.
So it's like, when it comesdown to common sense and people
knowing less.
Just because somebody hasstripes or whatever, dude, that
doesn't mean that they know morethan you.
Very often, even in the middle,especially in the military too,

(56:43):
same thing.
That's not the case, right?
Did these superiors have bigegos?
Oh yeah, dude, that, like thatone guy was telling you about.
Like, all they do is worshipfucking jocko and they talk
facts, dude, I'm not even joking.
When I lateraled out, dude, uh,I went to a coroner's case
because it was in the samecounty as a patrol sergeant.

(57:05):
One of my old b partners showedup.
It's still with that samesheriff's office.
We did the coroner's case.
He had his door open and Iheard him listening to something
in his patrol car.
I'm like is that fucking Jocko,bro?
I've never listened to Jocko inmy life.
And he's like yeah, I didn'tpass my sergeant test and they

(57:25):
told me that they the fuck didyou just say to me.
He's like I don't know.
And I'm like you should fuckingkill yourself, bro, like in
your patrol car.
I'm just joking.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Well, you should fucking.
Yeah, you get it, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Like I'm like what the fuck?
He was so defeated to reallycool guy.
But that that's what they do.
Like you have to be this leaderand emulate Jocko.
But the thing is like first ofall, I'm my own man, I don't
need to fucking look up toanybody.
Number two like they don't evendo you know, they don't even,

(57:58):
uh, like put forth any of thosethings that he preaches.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Are those superiors, those types of superiors?
Are they receptive to feedbackor constructive criticism?
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
No, you don't ask why , bro, and I always did that,
trying to ask why too much.
I'm like because it doesn'tmake sense.
Bitch, what the fuck Right?
Like you guys that out of touch?
And it's because you're in youroffice on your little computer
watching Jocko fucking YouTubevideos when I'm in the fucking
trenches in the hills chasingdown hard motherfuckers alone
and I have to hold my fuckingradio up here to get some
service.
That's wild dude.

(58:32):
You don't know what you'retalking.
So it's like one of my otherbuddies, jeremy Mason.
He came on our podcast a bunchof times, hard motherfucker dude
.
He was a canine guy too.
Same thing.
He'd just be out there fuckingoff the grid running around
chasing guys and he had thosesame beefs with these guys.
Like it's the best cops dogenerally do not get along with

(58:52):
their administration because theadmin is weak.
They don't know how to beleaders.
They think that because theytest well to get promoted which
is all fake anyway they pick whothey want, correct?
Um, that that makes themqualified.
It's like it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Does a poor leadership in a police agency?
Can it lead to loss of life or?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
dangerous situations, dangerous situations.
For sure, man, it can lead todangerous situations.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,like dude, I've had I had
sergeants at the time,lieutenants that yeah, they try
to tell you, like, what to do oncertain situations, and I'm
like, dude, you don't knowthat's what I mean.
I'm like, are you even a cop?
Like they're, they're, they'redesk jockeys, dude, like they're

(59:37):
not even doing shit and theygot promoted so fast.
Um, that they, they never didthat.
Like none of them ever held myresident deputy post alone.
And I'm like you don't knowthis.
Just for me, specifically, I'mlike you don't know this town,
you don't know these people.
This isn't you know, we're notdoing it that way.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
So yeah, so did you ever get in any trouble as a
result of them retaliatingagainst you or targeting you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
No, because they didn't have shit on me.
I did my job.
I did it very well.
I had the support of thecommunity and I later ran for
sheriff actually that's how muchsupport I had because I wanted
to fire everybody.
Yeah, but no, dude.
I think the one write-up I hadwas I totaled my car off the
side of a highway one time.

(01:00:28):
They wrote me up for that, andthen I had a Mohawk one time I
got in trouble, but no, nothingsubstantial.
That's why I quit.
I'm leaving in a month and ahalf.
I'm going to go be a patrolsergeant at a PD, and that was
its own fucking nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Talk to me about the patrol sergeant position.
Did you lateral into thatposition, mm-hmm?
Were you ever a police officeror you went straight to a
supervisor?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
rank Because of my training and experience.
I just automatically qualified.
I had a bachelor's degree Sweet.
And my homie well, not anymore.
He's now a fucking major enemy.
But my friend at the time.
He was the lieutenant there andI had worked with him at the
sheriff's office too.
So years prior he had gone overand he's like I want to hire
you as a patrol sergeant.
Get these fools in check.
But yeah, I hated it, bro, itwas.

(01:01:16):
It was dumb, it.
We had quotas.
Ticket quotas are a real fuckingthing.
I'm tired of people saying thatthey don't.
So when you get reprimandedverbally, written right up your
lieutenant.
If you don't go tell your guy,if your guys aren't writing
tickets, trent, the city manageris on the chief's ass, the
chief is on my ass, so I'm goingto be on your ass.

(01:01:36):
Go tell your guys to write moretickets and if they don't,
people are going to startgetting written up.
We call that a fucking quotaand I'm tired of hearing that
there's not one.
So you don't have to have theword quota, right?
Is that to generate money forthe county?
100% Generated money for thecity?
Highway Patrol has the samething.
They had a whiteboard in theirfucking offices, bro with who
had the most seatbelt tickets,speeding tickets, little tally

(01:01:59):
marks, and they would getbitched at by their sergeants If
they fail.
Your two perform.
It's in your policy okay.
If it's in your policy okay.
If you're not doing your jobfunction which for highway guys
is issuing citations, duis andshit you're going to get written
up or counseled.
So I didn't like quotas, becauseI wasn't a nerd, I was a deputy
.
So I didn't like giving ticketsfor shit that I did myself.

(01:02:20):
I didn't have a front plate, Ihad window tint on my cars.
I'm not going to get people introuble for doing the same shit
that I'm doing.
I'm talking on my phone, right,but we were basically forced to
do it and I told him I'm notdoing that, bro, and at the time
he was my friend.
And then that's when I reallybro, when I came back and you
could probably talk about thistoo, like in the military, when
I came back out of my assignmentand I went to the PD, which was

(01:02:43):
like a pretty normal town incomparison, it was so slow and I
just stopped.
I felt like I hit a brick wall,just like boom, and because I
wasn't busy all the time, myadrenaline was gone, my body
didn't know what to do withitself and all of a sudden, I'm
alone with my fucking thoughts,which is never good.
That's the bad part, right.
And I just, I was like just, Ijust sat there and I'm like,

(01:03:05):
whoa, what the fuck?
What do I do now?
And then that's when all thememories and you know Were you
living alone.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Yeah, yeah, were you drinking at that time?

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I've never no, I've never been like that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
What were you doing to process those memories?

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Nothing, bro.
I fucking was having like panicI don't even give a fuck I've
said this too like I was havingpanic attacks on the street,
dude, and it's a major liabilitybecause, um, I was a supervisor
while employed, you were havingpanic attacks, yeah.
So I, yeah, I was like, uh,well, I was.
I was like suicidal for a while, dude, like when I was living
out where I lived.
Yeah, especially during 2020.

(01:03:45):
That was a grim time.
I'm glad you said that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I'm glad you said that, because I recently had an
LAPD guy, youngster too, andhe's like dude.
I was having panic attacks atwork where I would have to undo
my vest.
It gives me chills, bro,because that's unfortunate man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Yeah, it is what it is.
And so I was like well, this isa major liability because I
have to, not only in charge ofmyself, and I have a badge and a
gun and a patrol car, but Ihave to look after my guys,
right, and I can't be trippingso.
But you have to mask it becausein law enforcement, in the
military, anything it is verytaboo.
It is a huge no-no to have anymental issues.

(01:04:21):
You are a pussy.
Verbatim from some of mylieutenants, including that
stupid re, that fuck I just saidright, so you can't do anything
about it, you have to suck itup.
But it got so bad that I walkedinto my lieutenants office one
day who again was my friend atthe time, and I was like bro, I,
I need to fucking take sometime.
And he's like why I'm like I'mall fucked up?

(01:04:42):
And he's like, he's like whatthe fuck are you talking about?
And I'm like bro, I'm probablygonna kill myself straight to
his face.
And he's just like Trent, youknow what this is going to do to
your fucking career, everythingyou fucking worked for.
Are you serious?
What do you have to bitch about?
And I was like and he was aroundthat whole all those years I
was like you know what the fuckI've done, bro?
My assignment, shit, are youkidding me?
And he's just like are youfucking serious?

(01:05:05):
Blah, blah, blah.
And then he wasn't having itand I was like you can keep this
job, bitch, like I'm fuckinggoing home.
And so I went home and afterthat it was, you know, we just
battled and battled, bro,because I ended up coming back
to work when I wasn't ready,because, as a cop, when you go

(01:05:27):
off you don't get any help.
Workers' comp wasn't readybecause, as a cop, when you go
off I didn't, you don't get anyhelp.
Workers comp wasn't covering myshit.
I had to burn through myvacation time, my sick time and
I had a mortgage, car paymentsand stuff for same time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I'm trying to battle upstairs and then I have HR Her
name's Karen hit me up.
Hey, we need a doctor's notefor your dog to say that you're
mentally able to still give himfood and water, otherwise we're
going to come take him.
And I had brought him over fromthe sheriff's office and I was
like dude, I will fucking don'teven think about coming to my

(01:05:59):
house.
So I have to text my, my, mylieutenants like dude, don't,
don't come up here and fuck withmy dog, bro.
So, and he's harassing me too.
And then it got to a point whereI ran out of money.
So I had to go get psyched upto go back to work.
So I texted my Lieutenant I'mall, I'm all better, bro.
It's been like a month and ahalf, I'm straight, fuck it.
No counseling, no, nothing.
So I went to see a psychiatristwho actually was a prior cop.

(01:06:21):
That happens sometimes.
He was a cop for like 20 years,went and got his fucking PhD
and shit.
And I lied.
It's easy to do.
I know a lot of guys I workedwith that lied on those things
after they got in shootings tocome back to work.
I've lied Exactly, yeah, andit's really easy to get away
with.
And I was like, oh no, dude, Iwas just, I'm all good, I'm just
, I was just tired and shit, youknow.

(01:06:42):
And then go back, the problemsdon't go away.
And yeah, it was just downhillfrom there, man, and then he was
telling my subordinates behindmy back I was a pussy, he's like
he's out for fucking psych,he's being a bitch Because they
would tell me, because theyliked me, right, yeah, yeah, it
was crazy, it was crazy.
But then karma bit his assbecause he's been fired, he's

(01:07:12):
had his house searched byfucking cops with a warrant.
He's investigating, beinginvestigated by the feds right
now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Really, yeah, everyone up there's a fucking
criminal, bro.
Everyone I worked for tellingyou from the da the sheriff
would you classify that ascorruption?

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
it's the one of the most correct.
People think that cities arecorrupt, which they are la is
horrendous.
But did you get into the ruralfucking departments, especially
where it's all fucking weed Dude?
It's horrible.
The good old boys club isfucking thriving up there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
How did that make you feel?
You took pride in having abadge and understanding penal
code.
You said you went to collegeand learned administrative
justice.
How did that make you feel inknowing that your own people
were fucking criminals?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
It was very eye opening man.
It was shocking.
That's why I said, the longer Iworked there, the more that I
found out I'm like no fuckingway, no fucking way.
And when I used to tell peoplethat they would, they wouldn't
believe me.
Because people in general youwant to believe that cops are
all boy scouts and I'm like youguys don't know what you're
talking about.
Man, like I know a lot ofpeople in a lot of agencies.
Um, like most of the streetguys I worked with were all

(01:08:08):
legit, right, but it's when youget to the brass is where you
run into the fucking problems.
Absolutely so when I firststarted working there on
training, the older boomer dudeswere like hey, trent, do you
know about the DA?
His name's Dave Eister.
Do you know about the DA hereand his pay to play scheme?
And I'm like what does thatmean?
So what he does and this iscommon knowledge back when weed

(01:08:28):
was still a felony, we'd havethe task force guys go hit a
crop of marijuana felony levelshit.
Then the DA would have talkedto the suspect hey bro, do you
want to buy the fuckingmisdemeanor or do you want to go
?
And I'm going to charge you.
You're going to catch a felonyin court and I could send you to
prison.
So you buy a misdemeanor, sothat dope grower would give cash

(01:08:49):
money to the da 50 g's, 100 g's.
So you're buying a lesserfucking crime.
Where did that money go?
Nobody fucking knows man.
Holy shit, dude, it's just by amisdemeanor.
Yeah, there's been likearticles and shit written about
it.
Nobody does anything.
When I was doing my would belike dude, why does the AG not

(01:09:11):
get involved in all this shit?
I'm like you think it stops atthat level, oh bro.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Dude, you already know.
Office of Inspector General,bro.
Yeah, I'm like I've seen it.
It goes to the top homie withit for so long, because they
controlled the narrative for solong.
Yeah, recently social media,people like me and you can pick
up a cell phone and say, hey,this is happening.
But when enough, when enough,people are saying, hey, this is
happening over here too, they'rehappening in new york, they're

(01:09:36):
happening in florida, yep, it'slike holy shit, we have a
fucking problem here yeah,they've lost a lot of their
power and weed's not worth shitanymore.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Um, and those guys are on their way.
A lot have been fired since mytime there arrested.
Sometimes everything I ever putout on the internet before came
to fruition.
And then it did.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, yeah, fuck yeah um, when you left, you know,
I'm fucking sorry to hear thatyou went through all that
fucking shit, bro, becausethat's not easy, it's not easy
yeah, no, dude, he uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
So what ultimately happened, though, bro, is um, I
had actually applied to go backto the sheriff's office because
it was.
I was so miserable at the pd.
I'm like, bro, I don't want, Ican't do this anymore.
I'm writing tickets like a nerd.
I hate my lieutenant, and thisis when I just come back from
ptsd leave.
Yeah, so I had applied to goback.
He found out about it and hestopped talking.

(01:10:28):
Well, he stopped talking to mefor two weeks, even though we
worked the same shift.
He was telling my subordinatesto come tell me what to do.
Go tell your sergeant.
I said to do this, right, andso one day because probation,
there was 18 months I get calledinto the chief's office, and it
was the chief, and him.
The chief's also been fired.
Now, by the way, damn, yeah,that's what I mean.
They're all fucking crooks, bro.
The chief's actually from LA,he was from LA, but they're like

(01:10:51):
yeah, it's not working out,we're going to let you go.
And I'm like oh, really, forwhat?
We don't have to give you areason.
You're on probation.
Oh, so I didn't do anythingwrong.
You know what?

(01:11:13):
I all your shit.
And I'm like all right, it was ahundred percent retaliatory for
trying to go back to the PD, tothe SO, but my plan?
I hated the SO, but I was justgoing to go back shortly until I
could figure out my next move,cause at that point I was so
checked out of law enforcementbut I needed to pay shit still,
right, right.
So I had just done like 20,000,$25,000 worth of work on my
home, so I didn't have a lot ofmoney in the bank.
I had like five G's.
So they fired me, took my dogright away, didn't even let me
say goodbye to him.
I had him for years and I waslike they're like, yeah, we're

(01:11:37):
keeping your dog and yourpartner's, giving you right home
.
And so I had no money and I hadto.
I sold my house, thankfullywithin like 30 days, because I
found someone that wanted it.
So I lost my fucking career andmy house dog, everything in
like a month.
It was crazy, bro, but like Isaid, karma fucked those guys up

(01:11:57):
absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Yeah, now was that the end of your law enforcement
career yeah, there was nothingprohibiting me from going back.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Uh, I didn't have any policy violations, no
complaints from the public.
No, anything, bro, I was juststraight.
Did you have a?

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
backup plan, or did you kind of have to just start
figuring shit out on your own?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
No, dude, it's one of those things where people get
very comfortable in lawenforcement.
Most guys I worked with wantedto leave, but the common
narrative is but what the fuckwould I do?
I'm not good at anything elseand I wanted to leave for a long
time but I was in that sameboat.
I'm like fuck, dude, I workedso hard, I'm getting paid a lot
of fucking money.
You know, I was making like upthere, cost of living was super
cheap and I was like I'm making150 K a year.

(01:12:41):
God damn.
Yeah, I had a Corvette, a RangeRover, a sick ass crib by myself
, because you could buy a dopehouse up there at the time for
like 350 g's, bro.
I was on a half an acre and anice ass, yeah so, but it was
like different cost of living,but you still make good money,
right and um, but yeah, it wasjust.
I was like fuck, because thenyou get comfortable with that
too, a certain way of lifestyle.

(01:13:02):
But I'm glad that it happenedto me, because had that not
happened, I would still eitherbe dead or I would still be
stuck at a miserable, miserable,hating it.
And I found that everythingthat's happened to me since 2021
like it happened for a reason,otherwise I wouldn't be here.
Facts and I'm very I dude.
I I thank all those guys, man,because they're all fat,

(01:13:23):
worthless and suck and they'restill in that shitty ass job
that they fucking hatethemselves.
You know, it's crazy manbecause we have similar man,
because they're all fat,worthless and suck and they're
still in that shitty-ass jobthat they fucking hate
themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
You know it's crazy, man, because we have similar
experience.
Dude, it's a very similarexperience, along with a lot of
other people too, and you saidthere's people still working
that do not know how to leave.
It's like you're stuck, you'rea hamster on a hamster wheel.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Yeah, dude, like a lot of guys, one of my homies up
there, he's a Sergeant now, buthe's like, dude, I can't.
I have a wife and kids and ahouse.
You're like what the fuck am Igoing to do?
Fortunately for me, I didn'thave all that, so I could just.
I just dipped out, I threwclothes in my trunk and I was
dating a girl in Florida at thetime and I drove straight to
Orlando and that didn't work out.
And then I was living out inHouston the last two and a half

(01:14:07):
years and then I became aprivate investigator and opened
my own business doing that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
So how long after you leaving law enforcement did you
get on that podcast?
Or did you create a podcast,Bro?
I chilled for like a year and,initially, what type of content
were you putting out on yoursocial media platforms?

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Oh well, right when I got out of law enforcement I
started my YouTube channel.
That I don't really fuck aroundwith that much, it's more of
like a hobby.
Yeah, Blasting all my admindude.
All the dirty laundry came out,bro, and then, um, real quick?

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
did you receive feedback while you were blasting
the admin?

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah, a lot of people that were local said I was full
of shit.
I was a disgruntled ex-employee.
I was like how was Idisgruntled, bro?
I quit.
Yeah, I didn't get fired fromthe, so I fucking quit that
bitch.
I was like I had noterminations, even at the PD.
They just they, they.
They had no reason to fire me.
So I was like I didn't do shit.
But I was like someone needs tosay it.
But ever since they said I wasfull of shit that's not really

(01:15:09):
happening died off because, likeI said, people started getting
fired.
Another police chief there inthat county he got fired while
he was on duty.
He went to some chick's houseand made her basically give him
oral sex caught a case on that.
We had another one that brokeinto some hookers hotel room
sexually assaulted her.
He got arrested and fired.
So there's been like a lot ofcrazy shit that's gone on in a
small ass County and now thateveryone's seen all of it like

(01:15:33):
everyone shut the fuck up onthat.
Now they're like what else isgoing on?
And I'm like, well, that's whyI don't upload anymore.
I don't have the time.
I'm like I had to move on.
I have to live my life at somepoint.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Will a Google search pull up those fucking arrests of
those?

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Dude, mendocino County cops, or just type in
fucking Trent James, mendocinoCounty, bro, like I'm all over
that bitch, especially because Iran for sheriff.
So when I moved to Orlando, itwas the 2022 election you know
what I'm saying, right?
And I was doing YouTube alittle bit and I had hell of
people hit me up Dude, come backand run for sheriff, yeah.
And I was like like all right,fuck it.

(01:16:11):
But because it was so lastminute, bro, I had to run as a
write-in candidate.
Yeah, so you had to write myname on the ballot.
Know that I was running.
I only got to campaign for sixdays, so thousands of people had
already voted and I still got20 of the vote, holy shit.
So if I would have done itmonths prior, yeah, it'd have
been close man.
I tried to debate the sheriff.
He wouldn't do it because he isjust an inarticulate redneck
that just talks like he haspeanut butter in his mouth and

(01:16:32):
shit, so he wouldn't debate me,acted like it wasn't real.
But I did all the interviewswith, like, the media, people
and all that shit.
Went around, met with thepublic.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
You said, acted like it wasn't real.
Yeah, do you believe that thosetypes of leaders, so-called
leaders are disconnected fromreality?

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
A hundred percent, man.
I think that they know in theback of their mind what's really
going on, but the egos are soinflated and they like to just
know what they just know.
Oh, my way is the best way.
We've always done it this waybefore.
Dude, those words will killyour ass, man.
It's incompetence, incompetence.
But they're so full ofthemselves.

(01:17:12):
They don't like criticism, likeyou know.
You try to say like hey, man, Ihave a better idea.
They'd be like what the fuckdid you just say better, take
your idea, shove it up your assand get the fuck out of my
office.
Don't come around here withideas.
We're sticking with shit we'vebeen doing since 1937, bitch,
yeah, you know.
So you got?

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
did you?
Um, you said you got kind oftired talking about it on your
YouTube.
Did you experience like aburnout about that content?

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Yeah, yeah, Uh yeah, dude Cause I was just living
that same life over and over andover man and I wasn't even
living in the same state at thetime and I had so many people
hitting me up all the time withquestions or needing stuff and I
helped so many people for freeand did so much shit.
But at a certain point in time,for once in my life, when I was
in Texas, I'm like I need tojust take a step back and become

(01:18:01):
selfish for once.
It's not even selfish.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
I remember I think you made a video saying that,
hey, I got gotta fucking becomeyou know work on myself, and I
totally understood it when youput that out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Yeah, man, exactly, and like I, I just I I had to
fucking move on, dude, and I'mlike I came out.
And then I came out here to doto pursue, you know shit in the
entertainment industry and, um,I'm like I can't.
I do it every once in a whilebecause it's still fun for me,
but, uh, I like to go on, letthem know what's up, talk a
little shit and then dip out,but I don't do it like full-time
like that anymore.

(01:18:33):
How did you get your foot intothe entertainment industry, dude
?
It was like weird as fuck.
So I've always wanted to be anactor, but I grew up in the
woods no opportunities, right.
And then I did what everyonetold me to do hey, go to college
and buy a house, it's gonna besick.
And then I did what everyonetold me to do hey, go to college
and buy a house, it's going tobe sick.
And then I did all that and Iwas like this is it, this is
fucking trash, dude.
And I, so I did all that, right, and I was like sitting around,

(01:18:55):
I'm like 30 years old with twocars, a fat house by myself, a
career, retirement?
You ever been married?
No?
People say that's also a goodidea, but uh, it's funny All my
partners said they always tellme Trent don't ever get married,
Right, but so I did everythingand I'm like, damn, this, still,
this is whack, dude, what thefuck.
And I'm like this, this sucks.
But um, so, anyway, I alwayswanted to do it.

(01:19:18):
But when I was in Houston in2023, very long story short,
this guy in 2017 got pulled overin my County and he got robbed
on the side of the road by twooff-duty cops, one of which I
used to work with because theywere just doing highway
robberies up there like in themovies, jacking people's weed,
jacking their money, sendingthem on their way.

(01:19:38):
He used to be a cop back in theday in San Antonio, so he knew
what that was.
Long story short, the ATF gotinvolved, the feds got involved.
Those two like a lot of copsgot wrapped up in that.
They all got arrested.
There's still a federal RICOcase going right now in San
Francisco.
Yeah, it was a huge deal, butanyway, when I got out of cop

(01:20:01):
world in 2021, I started puttingout videos.
He saw it hit me up.
We became friends.
He was also like a lower levelfilm producer, mostly based out
of Atlanta at the time, but in2023, fast forward a couple
years.
We're really close.
We're like best friends.
Now he's like, hey, I have somemodeling thing with Bam Margera

(01:20:23):
, so his now ex-wife they werestill married at the time, Nikki
.
He's like she's starting herown clothing line, blah, blah,
blah.
And we also had another mutualfriend that owns a clothing
company.
I was posting some pictures ofmyself on Instagram.
She saw them, she hit me up andshe's like hey, I'm doing this
clothing thing with your friend,Zeke.

(01:20:44):
Do you want to come out to LAand be the guy model for it?
And I was like, fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Where were you living at?

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
at the time, houston, okay.
So I came out here, did thatand I've kind of just fell in
love with the Hollywood shit.
I'm like, dude, I need tofucking be out here.
And then I talked to a bunch ofpeople when I was out here and
they're like you should probablymove out here, bro, you're
missing an opportunity.
And I hated private PI shit, bro, being a private investigator
like it was insane.
Money, dude, like the mostmoney I've ever made in my life

(01:21:15):
without really ever leaving myhouse, if you know what you're
doing, right, but I wasn't happydoing it.
Another baller ass house I wasliving in and out there I had a
brand new like Durango SRT andshit like, but I wasn't
passionate about any of it andit was still investigation,
investigation, still dealingwith law enforcement, sometimes
attorneys, um.
And also while I was out here,he introduced me to another guy
who was in the middle of filming, starting to film a movie, and

(01:21:38):
he saw me and he's like, hey, doyou want to part in this?
And so that's when I reallyjust said fuck it.
I sold all my shit in like twomonths and drove out here and
restarted again for the secondtime.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
I think I was talking to you during that period of
time also, when you're like, hey, I just moved to fucking
hollywood.
Yeah, like cool, we gotta meetup, dude and that's when I
realized nothing matters.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Dude, like your furniture, your fucking cars,
your houses, like it, it it'sall just nonsense, man.
I mean, it's so easy.
It's just you can't take any ofit with you to the fucking
great beyond.
So I always tell guys cause Igot hit up a lot like bro, like
I'm so miserable, I'm depressedas a cop what do I do?
And I'm like we're alldifferent.

(01:22:18):
Man, I would just say try tofind something you're passionate
about and try to get creativeand see if you can make money
off of doing that.
Yeah.
Doing that, yeah, because lifeis what you know.
This way too damn short, it'llget snatched away from you in a
blink of an eye.
To be miserable, doing whatyou're doing, if it's not
fulfilling your soul, you knowwhat I mean, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
What's your take on the American dream?
As far as you already said someof it, people employ you to go
to college, get a job, getmarried, get a house shut up and
be miserable.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
What's your take on that?
I think that's a very oldschool, tired like.
It's just not practical anymore.
Man, we're in a new time.
That doesn't even work.
First of all, this isn't the1950s, where it's all like the
housewife situation, right, like, a lot of women are way more
successful than men.
They have their own careers.
People, a lot of people thesedays don't even want kids,

(01:23:13):
whereas they but I think it wassuch a uh, a social norm for so
long that you were looked at asyou're ostracized or looked at
as some weirdo.
If that's not the path that youwere taking, what do you mean?
You don't want to go to college, a house and get married and
have four kids?
What are you talking about?
What the fuck's wrong with you?
But that works for a lot ofpeople and that's great.

(01:23:34):
I would say if that's what youwant to do, do it.
If you don't want to do it,don't fucking do it.
Your decision doesn't affect meand vice versa.
Right, but for me, when, um, itwasn't fulfilling and I don't

(01:23:55):
know, but I had a lot of othermental shit going on too, bro, I
still do but it was way worsethen.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
but it's like, yeah, I was just battling fucking
demons, man, I couldn't evenenjoy anything.
How important is internal peace, internal mental health, as
opposed to outside things likeoh, if I get this car, it's
going to make me feel better.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
It's.
It's momentary dopamine hitsman and that's why a lot of cops
I'm not going to say this guy'sname, but I'm still best
friends with him.
He works in A-Law enforcementcapacity, but he is a fucking
deviant.
A lot of those dudes like usbecause we're so addicted to the

(01:24:28):
adrenaline I'm sure you cantalk about this too.
You need like a lot of thoseguys are like sex addicts
driving around drunk, fucking,going and doing all kinds of
crazy shit because you have to.
Your brain is so wired to liveevery moment as if it's your
last and if you're not alwaysliving on the edge, you're
sitting alone with the fuckingmonsters in your brain and dude,

(01:24:49):
that's.
You know, I've been there andbut yeah, some of these guys
that are still carrying a gun,dude that I know that a lot of
them, a lot of them that arethat nobody knows man.
The public does not understandwhat this is.
Not all cops, we know, we know,we know, but you don't
understand, they don'tunderstand and that's why it's
hard to talk to people.
That's why, like one of my exeswhen I was still a cop man,

(01:25:12):
it's like the how's your daything.
It's like I can't.
You're trying to be a nice, youknow, loving girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
I can't what am I gonna say?
Yeah, and it's not that we'retrying to put a blanket
statement or a stereotype on alllaw enforcement.
No, it's not the case.
What we're saying is there'sthere's motherfuckers that have
some demons in in lawenforcement.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
There's motherfuckers that are criminals in law
enforcement yeah, there's a lotof good dudes that are, that are
cops, that are doing it theright way, that aren't mentally
fucked.
I'm just saying myself and alot of dudes I worked with, a
lot of guys I've talked to yeah,it's common are blasted out,
bro, and most of us, even if dohave problems, you'll never know
it because, again, it's sotaboo.
You, you hide that as best youcan.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
It's almost like the ones that cared the most got
fucked over the most.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh, dude, I gave like my heart and
soul to fucking everybody inthat community, dude, for years
and years, and years and I'llnever get it back and I don't
want it back.
Right, I was happy to do it andit made me feel good to help
somebody with a problem thatthey needed help with that they
couldn't get.
Dude, I was doing all kinds ofshit.
Man Like hey Trent, my kid'snot going to school.

(01:26:16):
I think he's going down thewrong path.
Can you come over and talk tohim, Because it was such a small
community?
Fuck, yeah, I can.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
That's what's up, dude into people's houses eating
dinner and shit on duty.
You get a call, you leave, butI believe in god, bro, I'm a
believer in god, but I seethings like.
That's how I see things.
Yeah, you know that they putthat.
You were put in certainpositions like that to help
others.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I, yeah,yeah, I guess.
So you know what I mean.

(01:26:40):
Because there's only certainpeople that can reach out to a
certain fucking people, man,certain individuals that can
reach out to people that do notlisten or are on the wrong path.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Yeah, you know, at the time, you know I didn't
drink the law enforcementKool-Aid, so I wasn't like I
actually didn't even hang outwith cops off duty bro, I didn't
really care, I had my ownfriends, yeah.
But it wasn't until recently.
You know, really, when I cameout to LA, that I really looked
back and reflected and kind of Iwasn't always a believer in
like everything happens for areason kind of a thing.
It always seemed kind of cringeand corny to me.
But looking back at how my lifehas worked out, I definitely

(01:27:15):
feel that way now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Oh, bro, like I mean, this is the first time I met
you in person and I can clearlysee your path was paved for you,
bro.
Yeah, your path was fuckingpaved for you to include all
that bullshit you went throughin the PD.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
Well, like dude, for about a year and a half before I
moved to California, when I wasstill in Texas and shit,
looking back, I had littlenudges from different places
about coming to fucking LA.
Yeah, for the entertainmentindustry, like somebody
mentioning something, I was in apost office in Houston.
The guy's like you look like anactor.

(01:27:49):
When I was out here doing adocumentary when I was still in
Houston.
This lady, she's like youbelong in Hollywood, you know.
So it was like little differentpoints of time spread out.
And then I finally had thatopportunity come up and I'm like
dude, what the fuck am I doing?
You know, maybe nothing willcome out of it, but at least I
can say I tried to do something.
Oh, you're killing it bro.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
You're killing it, You're just starting out.
So just imagine, you know youknow things take time, dude.
Nothing happened overnight.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
No man, people like back to like people back home.
Some of them think like, oh,you just go out to Hollywood and
you start starting and shitwith fucking Johnny Depp and Tom
Cruise.
I'm like that's not how itworks, bro.
Very fortunate because all of2024, the entertainment industry
it's still kind of fucked, butit was horrible with the strikes
and everything.
But I've been very fortunate tonetwork, which I love to do,

(01:28:35):
and that's what you have to do,and I've been grateful and
fortunate to get into a lot ofprojects that I shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
I shouldn't have what role do they always have you
casting for man?

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
because I see your instagram clips obviously the
fucking stay-at-home dad withthe minivan driving the kids to
soccer practice.
What are you fucking askingcrazy questions?
No, it's like yeah, you knowthe, the fucking motorcycle dude
, the gang guy, the fuckingwhite supremacist guy, the
fucking um, you know, uh,mercenary dude, contractor,
fucking prior military dudesometimes.
I just shot a film called lasthit and I was pretty much that

(01:29:08):
you know yeah, I always see youputting thug number one, or
that's a joke yeah, yeah, yeah,but yeah, a lot of those.
But that's awesome because Iwasn't that in real life.
Who wants to fucking playthemselves?
What's funny is I've never oncebeen cast as a fucking cop and
I'll tell my bro, I have a lotof fucking experience because a
lot of these actors I'm on setswith them that play cops and I'm
like, dude, what do you?

(01:29:28):
Your gun doesn't go behind yourback, bro like they ask you for
advice.
Yeah, yeah, I'm like let me, letme unfuck your whole fucking
duty belt here for you, homie,yeah this is how you hold the
gun, you know.
so it's like some mild technicaladvising shit.
But they don't cast you becausewhat people don't understand?
I make fun of myself for thethug roles, but everyone, for

(01:29:48):
the vast majority of them, aretypecast in this industry.
What does that mean?
Like you go, you're, they'regoing to see you.
You look like a fuckinginsurance salesman or whatever.
Right, yeah, you're going toget cast in a lot of those roles
, bro, like a lot of dudesaren't going to get my roles
that you know have theAbercrombie and Fitch fucking
polo and fucking the full headof hair and they're like huh,

(01:30:11):
I'm super white guy.
They're not going to get myroles right.
They're getting the fuckingones that I'm not getting.
So people based on certainlooks like.
When I first moved here, I got ascholarship um at the Stella
Adler acting school and one ofour exercises we did our teacher
had us do is we had to writedown and judge every single
person in our class and we did.

(01:30:32):
This chick looks like a bitch.
This guy looks like an asshole.
Were you guys allowed to behonest like that?
Yeah, this guy looks like apsychopath, me and it's like.
But none of them are like that.
It's just off of physicalappearance.
It's like profiling as a cop.
Right, you're going to get moreoften than not into those roles
based on your look If you'reright for it.

(01:30:53):
Like I know a lady that wascasting for a commercial.
She's like Trent, I saw you putin for this homeowner
commercial for some lawn carecompany and I was casting for it
and I saw your profile and Iwas like, yeah, sometimes I do
that just to be a silly goose,cause it's funny to me because I
know I'm not going to get it.
She's like, yeah, I saw it andI couldn't put you in it because
you do not match that lookwhatsoever.
Yeah, they're looking for theyou know ron swanson type guy

(01:31:14):
with the fucking, you know alittle cardigan and the fucking
hair and you know, just likeregular old average joe guy bro,
I was thinking if we ever did aprison movie, bro, I could be
the lieutenant.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
You could be like the ab fucking shot caller man.
Dude, there's so much shit I'mtrying.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
People say that too, like, oh, dude, go do a movie
about your time in lawenforcement.
Yeah, like, didn't you know howhard it is?
One of my really close friendsright now was the executive
producer on law and order, swat,chicago PD, big time showrunner
guy and even though I have thatconnect, I can't do shit still
with anything.

(01:31:48):
Man, there's like a certainit's really complicated and I'll
probably, you know we'll dosome shit in the future.
But he even knows about myhistory.
He's like fuck, that soundsawesome Because he likes to.
He's a writer, he's written andsold 13 movie pilot or sorry,
tv pilots Very successful.
But yeah, that's the wholeprocess bro.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
But that'd be sick, definitely yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
What advice do you have for people out there that
are tired of where they're atbut don't know how to change
their circumstance?
If I can do it, literallyanyone can.
Man and my other homies thatgot fucked over, if they got
fired too, lost their jobs,broke their brains, they're all
doing all right.
You know what I mean,definitely, so it's within your
power.
It's a mental block, man.
It's a comfortability aspect,like I said, a complacency,

(01:32:36):
where you get accustomed to alifestyle, the consistent
paychecks, try to have a plan,but if you're not happy, like I
said, life's too short to beliving like that man.
You're right, dude, because itaffects everything.
It affects your relationshipswith your family, your friends.
You're just a nobody wants tobe around you because you're
miserable all the time.
Facts, dude.
Yeah, yeah, and not that I'mall better now, like I'm still

(01:32:59):
fucked up, but I'm much betteroff than I was.
I mean, you're pleasant to bearound bro Thanks, man, energy
wise, yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure when you're a copit probably different feel.
I mean, you know we putdifferent energy out into the
world it is.
I still have a lot of intensitythat I don't know that I have,
because I go into a lot of thesesets and a lot of people tell
me like whoa, like they'rescared or they like you're
really intense and I'm like I'm,I'm just actually chilling, bro

(01:33:19):
, you know.
You see, I'm scanning still.
You know what I mean and who'splotting against me in this
fucking, you know room.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
But yeah, definitely so, uh, is there any last words
you want to say to the crowd,maybe, where they what could
reach out to you if you're onsocial media or anything like
that another time?

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
oh, yeah, yeah, uh.
I just, I mean, I have youtube,whatever.
It's just the trent james onthere, my channel, but it's not
even big and I don't really fuckaround with it.
But I have instagram, it's justtrent james, one thing and
that's pretty much it.
Cool man, I'm the bald guy onthere.
You see my shit right away, soyeah hey, well, thank you for
coming, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
I fucking appreciated this one.
It was a good one, yeah thanksfor having me, man, yeah thanks.
Well, there you guys have it,folks.
Another banger for you guys.
Man, if you guys like what yousaw, make sure you hit that
subscribe button.
Love you guys, keep pushingforward.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Unhinged line.
Hector's legend engraved Livinglife raw, never been tamed.
From the hood to the pen.
Truth entails pen.
Hector Bravo, unhinged storynever ends, thank you.

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