Held in Motion
Held in Motion: Breaking boxes, blurring lines, & imagining the possibilities. These recordings are my sense-making explorations of humans & their systems. Think, the multidimensional intersections of things like science, tech, psychology, sociology, language, the practice of philosophy, etc. No expertise, here. Just a curious mind that thrives on wrestling with the complex whys, because anything else isn't nearly as fun. If this sounds interesting, welcome! Hear something you'd like to chat about? Please visit my Swellcast website: https://www.swellcast.com/SeekingPlumb. (You can reply via the website or the Swell app.) This is the personal podcast of Christina (aka @SeekingPlumb). To learn more or to start your own personal or community podcast, please visit www.swellcast.com. Visit https://swellcast.com/SeekingPlumb to reply to my personal podcast, or to start your own podcast.
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"It wouldn't matter. Someone wouldn't have to justify that they're disabled enough. They wouldn't have to justify that they deserve support. We would just recognize and support one another. But we don't. Instead be obedient. Then maybe otherwise. Yeah."
"I'm just thinking, for example too, when I go to the doctor, I have chronic illnesses and it is a regular thing. It almost doesn't matter what country you are in. I'm only speaking about two that I've been in with respect to doctors. But if you don't, and this comes even culturally too, if you don't, quote, unquote, perform suffering, disability pain at the right ways, then you're not t...
"Okay, now you want to talk about humans as a group who have created systems to rank humans and their worth and then went into other spaces that were not where they were from to infiltrate, inject into those spaces these new framings from language to systems of how to do governing, how to do education, whatever it might be an individual trying to remake another individual in their image,...
"It's a lot of different things. Our taxes may be different, but we also get more out of it. But what is it really about the societal ideologies, the narratives that make things different? And I suppose not so surprising is that we haven't done nearly as much research into hatred, it seems, as we have into love of like what. What is the biological, physiological, neuro. Like, what's goin...
"I know a lot of the times when we hear the word podcast, it sounds very compartmentalized, and it's like someone on an island or on a stage, they are saying their piece, and all the rest of us are the audience. That is not how I think about this space. While it's nice to have the number of follows or likes or reviews or what have you in a typical podcast, it's more, for me about the ide...
"Like I think I mentioned this, I think I mentioned this somewhere here that the US government is a good example of attempting to create checks and balances for knowing that humans are not all going to operate good or in, in, what's the word? Collaboratively. That's the word I want. Together. Right. And so then you have to create because everyone's going to have different ambitions."
"But I think it's not that simple, actually. I think I've taken some external ideas, but I've rewritten those stories and then interlaced and interwoven them with myself. As in the labels are descriptors, but they're not definitive. Hmm. Maybe that's why I am not a fan of labels. Because when other people use them, they use them definitively and try to use broad strokes to understand me....
"And that divide is growing wider and larger as time goes by. You now give AI and depending on how someone approaches this tool, if they are using it from a mentality of democratizing access, rather than using it to hone their thinking, hone their ability to create, even their emotional intelligence, there's going to end up being those who. There's apparently a new term now called Vibe c...
"Not from a white woman asking for you to do the hard work and educate me and teach me, but from a perspective of I'm an autistic trying to navigate an alien species that operates so very differently from me that I want to meet you where you're at. And I don't know how to do that in these particular contexts because it's not a script I have heard or seen enough to be able to pick up on m...
"I think instead it's these baser desires, instincts, needs of the animal that is human that prevail. So there's a need for identity, there's a Need for belonging and constructs of what manhood are. And this phrase in particular, help to create the in group, help to create the identity."
"I can answer some questions, at least from lived experience to the research that I've done. But I'll also emphasize that I am an autistic. I am not a monolith. We are not a monolith. But knowledge is power. And anything I can do to help facilitate empowering you with knowledge, I would love to do so. Please, if you have questions, please feel free to ask."
"And what was really interesting is I actually saw someone post about this on threads. They had asked or talked to a friend, talked to a therapist, and talked to ChatGPT about whatever was going on in their lives. The most empathetic response they received was from AI, not a human. And this is interesting on multiple levels, right? Because AI can be very agreeable with us, which drives m...
"Former NASA rocket scientist, the journalist, TV personality slash journalist, the girlfriend, pop star, another scientist and activist, right? They made this narrative of who was going to go, but then whoever they got to do the suits decided it was important to make the suits flattering and sexy. These are two words you never heard when they're designing suits for men to go to space or...
"For example, collaborative storytelling, rotating of jobs I've been thinking about. But although I haven't put anything out there yet around, we see so much focus on being independent, don't be codependent. But not hardly anything about interdependence and wanting to dig into that anyway and the complex systems and what would be required to do this and. And scaling and everything else."
"How do we create something that fulfills, and this is a huge and maybe impossible ask, but fulfills the need and desire for status and reputation, something that can replace hierarchies and it may not end up being a thing to replace it, but more like an off ramp to just a different way of thinking. Just seeing that we, each one of us are worthy of existing, of taking up space, of having...
"And also if you have any concerns or questions about ChatGPT or anything other like another form of AI that this is one of those ways where they can help where because information's been siloed there's a de segregating I don't know if that's the word I want but like a a maybe a blending of that the large language models can do."
"You're choosing to communicate something to somebody else. You want that action, that expression to influence them if they're not influenced by it. That is inhuman. To teach young children, for example, to lean into this concept is to minimize part of their humanity, to elevate a part of their humanity, and also to compartmentalize and distance them from other humans."
"And I hate to put it that way, but at the same time, I think it's important that we reflect on whatever stories or narratives we tell ourselves. That's a difficult conversation. And like this is just me and my thoughts and my experiences. And I only have, what, limited feedback some guys will talk with me about. Other times there's a lot of silence because they want to let us women talk...
"I remember having a conversation several months ago now talking with some people about how important it is that we are even more thoughtful and intentional as we move forward. And I feel like that's, that's the bottom line of where I come to with this is that going forward with AI, I need to be even more thoughtful and intentional than I am say for using Google or something like that. B...
"Because as soon as you start to believe that, then you have to start either doing mental gymnastics or excusing the inconsistencies and then it becomes a matter of justifying your stances or your beliefs or your ideas around morals, God, etc, when the whole purpose of a belief is not to justify it to anyone else, it's a, it's for you."
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