In this deeply personal and vulnerable conversation, Eva is pulling back the curtain on her relationship with her partner, Tom, an incredibly special and unique human by all accounts. He’s also the man she once had on a spiritual pedestal, who also happens to be 26 years older than her, a wildly private human. In other words… not your average “how we met” story.
In this conversation with Kyley, Eva spill’s on all the odd and beautiful circumstances that come with their love — from navigating projections (“isn’t that the cliché of the teacher dating the student?”) to dismantling conditioning about what’s “right,” to learning how to actually let ourselves be loved without condition.
It’s juicy, hilarious, and rooted in something much bigger than just romance: it’s about self-love, joy, and trusting life enough to let the good all the way in.
The meet-cute that took seven years — from a Costa Rica retreat crush to living together in a surf shack in Brazil
Love without conditions: how it feels to be in a partnership where both people are exploring whether there’s any limit to love or joy.
Pedestals are prisons: how putting someone “above” you is unkind to them and to yourself, and what happens when you smash the hierarchy.
Self-love as subtraction, not addition: letting go of self-condemnation, judgment, and the “I” story so Source can pour in.
Being willing to be disliked — and why your joy might be the medicine that irritates someone right into their own healing.
Living under the influence of good: the simple but terrifying practice of trusting life right now, in this moment.
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