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April 15, 2025 30 mins

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What happens when an HR pro leaves the corporate grind to build a business rooted in ethics, empathy, and real talk? In this episode, I sit down with Kirsten Ziegler, an HR consultant who’s rewriting the rules of people management for small business owners. From navigating the difference between contractors and employees (without a legal headache) to building better hiring practices from the inside out, Kirsten breaks it all down in a way that’s clear, calm, and incredibly helpful.

Plus: Kirsten’s sharing a free job description template that’s as practical as it is thoughtful.

Whether you're building your first team or cleaning up some messy legacy systems, this conversation is here to remind you: HR doesn’t have to feel heavy—it can feel human.

Topics:

  • Transitioning from Corporate to Entrepreneurship (3:35)
  • The Role of HR in Small Businesses (7:54)
  • Navigating Contractor vs. Employee Relationships (10:42)
  • Hiring Practices and Avoiding Bias (19:01)

You can find Kirsten at:

Website: kdzhrconsulting.com

LinkedIn: /in/kirsten-zeigler-humanresources/

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Job Description Template

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