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January 14, 2023 94 mins

Hero Chat Show with ZaneMan & Jonni Boy.

We're Talking about  #DC, #Marvel & #StarWars #Movies, #TVShows, #Video Game & #ComicCon Content on the Hero Chat Show.

On This Episode of the Hero Chat Show:

It's the Hero Chat Show, At the Movies Segment (Featuring) - Black Adam
A Breakdown & Commentary of the Warner Bros., New Line Cinema & DC Entertainment Motion Picture  a Soin-Off to Shazam! (2019) staring Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson: Black Adam; Aldis Hodge: Hawkman; Former James Bond: Pierce Brosnan: Dr. Fate. 

You are Watching TV on the Hero Chat Show Segment (Featuring) - She-Hulk: Attorney at Law
A Breakdown & Commentary of the Marvel Studios & Disney+ TV Show She-Hulk: Attorney at Law where ZaneMan & Jonni Boy discuss Episodes 5, 6, 7, 8, & 9.

We’re Gaming Together on the Hero Chat Show Segment (Featuring) - Gotham Knights
A Breakdown & Commentary of the WB Games Montreal & Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment Action-Adventure Video Game, Gotham Knights.

Special Guest: Patrick 

Next Up on Episode 11:
#Movie - Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
#TV Show - Star Wars: Andor 7,8,9, 10, 11, & 12
#VideoGame - Avengers

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Daddylacus (00:00):
Attention listener.
If you can hear this, thenyou've tuned into our top secret
radio frequency.
But not to be alarmed, kickback, relax, and enjoy.
We're talking down Marvel in dcbut they don't have it all at
Star Wars.
That's easy, but you who call?

(00:22):
I'm talking Jonni.
Boy Hero, Chat Show.

Jonni Boy (00:36):
Welcome to the Hero Chat Show, where we will share a
movie that we've seen, a moviecoming up, a TV show, one coming
soon, possibly a video game.
It's mostly dc Marvel and StarWars.
I'm Jonni Boy.

ZaneMan (00:49):
I'm ZaneMan.

Jonni Boy (00:51):
And today we have a special guest

ZaneMan (00:54):
again.
He came back,

Daddylacus (00:56):
welcomes our special guest.

Jonni Boy (01:01):
So we have P Lantern back with us.

P Lantern (01:04):
What's up guys?

ZaneMan (01:05):
He lantern.

P Lantern (01:06):
Yeah.
P Lantern.
That's a good one.

Jonni Boy (01:09):
Yes.
So today we are discussing BlackAdam.
Yep.
We are also discussing the SheHawk TV show.

ZaneMan (01:19):
That sounds right.

Jonni Boy (01:20):
5, 6, 7, 8, and nine.

ZaneMan (01:23):
It's gonna take really long time.

Jonni Boy (01:24):
It won't take that long.
It's a new year, new amount oftime we have.
And we'll also be looking at thegame Gotham Knights,

ZaneMan (01:32):
which we both me and P Lantern Black P here together.

P Lantern (01:36):
Yeah, it was a co-op there,

Jonni Boy (01:38):
We're gonna get right into it with the movie.

ZaneMan (01:40):
I guess it's up to you, Doug.
Let's do it.

Daddylacus (01:43):
It's the Hero movie.

Jonni Boy (01:49):
All right.
So Black Adam,

ZaneMan (01:52):
yeah.
I mean, usually he just goesright in, right into it.
I guess he's waiting for me tosay something.

P Lantern (01:56):
Yes, sir.
Black Adam.
Yep.
That was a movie.

Jonni Boy (01:59):
Yeah.
Warner Brothers New Line CinemaDC Entertainment.
Black Adam Release date wasOctober the 21st, 2022.
Now showing on H B O Maxstarring, you smell what the
rock is cooking.
Dwayne Johnson is Black Adam10th Adam.

ZaneMan (02:16):
Dwayne the Paper Johnson.
Everyone knows them.

P Lantern (02:18):
Yeah.
Dwayne.
Yeah.
Dwayne the Scissors Johnson.

Jonni Boy (02:22):
Aldi Hodge as Hawkman slash Carter Hall.

ZaneMan (02:26):
Yep.
I, I don't know who that is.
I forgot.

Jonni Boy (02:29):
Former James Bond himself, Pierce Bron as Dr.
Fate Kent Nelson.

ZaneMan (02:34):
Oh yeah, I knew that one.

Jonni Boy (02:35):
And it's directed by Hamme Collette, Sierra.
IM b d says nearly 5,000 yearsafter he was bestowed by the
Almaty powers of the Egyptiangods and imprisoned just as
quickly black Adam is freed fromhis earthly tomb ready to
unleash his unique form ofjustice on the modern world,

ZaneMan (02:55):
unique form of justice.
He is an anti-hero.

Jonni Boy (02:59):
And we'll probably get into this a little bit later
on, but there's been a lot of stgoing on in the new D C U, not
the Dceu.

ZaneMan (03:09):
Yeah.

Jonni Boy (03:10):
With, uh, the guy that was doing, um, you know,
that movie, guardians of theGalaxy.

ZaneMan (03:17):
James Gunn,

Jonni Boy (03:17):
James Gunn and Pete Saturn have taken over.
So we'll talk a little bit aboutthat in the middle of, I'm sure,
the black Adam.
So it starts off in conduct 200b c e before the common era.
King Octa uses the army to seizepower and become a tyrant
obsessed with dark magic.
Octa's real goal was to forgethe crown of sabic, infused with

(03:40):
the power of six demons to makethe crown he needed.
Etherium,

ZaneMan (03:45):
EUM,

Jonni Boy (03:45):
EUM.

ZaneMan (03:46):
is this the first time that's been brought up, like
chronologically?

Jonni Boy (03:50):
Probably within the DC shows?
I don't remember being broughtup before

P Lantern (03:55):
in the dC entertainment universe.
It's the first time it's beenbrought up, that's for sure.

Jonni Boy (04:00):
One of his enslaved people found the Etherium and is
killed by the king's men.
A boy who helped the old mansteals the Etherium, try to
unite the slaves.
And if you look close in thisscene, you will see the rock.

ZaneMan (04:16):
He's there.

Jonni Boy (04:17):
He's there.

ZaneMan (04:18):
Where is he?

Jonni Boy (04:19):
He's like he, when the boy goes to the other side
after the old man is killed,he's right beside him.

ZaneMan (04:26):
He's right beside him.
He's right there.
He's right there, right there.
He's right there.

Jonni Boy (04:29):
if you don't look quick enough, you might not have
realized that.
Who he is.

ZaneMan (04:32):
Like P You see him?

P Lantern (04:33):
Yeah.
I saw him.
I was watching the movie eatingfood and was like, oh,

ZaneMan (04:37):
oh.
He was right there.

Jonni Boy (04:38):
So the council warriors gave the boy the
stamina of Shu.
The swiftness of Haru, thestrength of Ahman, the wisdom of
Zeti, the power of aan, thecourage of Meehan Shaza.

ZaneMan (04:54):
are you surprised you got through that?

P Lantern (04:55):
He definitely pronounced something wrong.

ZaneMan (04:58):
Yeah, bud.
I'm surprised he got through itat all.
Like that was tough for him.

Jonni Boy (05:01):
Shazam

ZaneMan (05:02):
Shazam

P Lantern (05:05):
Shazam.

Jonni Boy (05:05):
the champion beat the king with the crown and the
wizards hid the crown of Sabecand the champion was never heard
from again

ZaneMan (05:12):
until today.

Jonni Boy (05:16):
You segued right into it.
Khandaq present day, inner gang,a group of international
mercies.
We see Ahman pulling a back tothe future, move using vehicles
to pull him on his skateboard.
Ahman almost rolls by the innergang.
Check boy with a van waiting toget checked out with three men.
Ahman was a diversion.

(05:37):
The van was hiding his motherAdriano.

ZaneMan (05:41):
Yeah, those, mercies they usually hiding someone.

Jonni Boy (05:44):
Van drives out to the desert while we find, out.
Adriana has a family heirloom ofEtherium, a necklace.

ZaneMan (05:51):
It's always like a necklace or a ring or something.
It's just like, oh yeah, this,this is important.

Jonni Boy (05:56):
We'll see that, later on in the movie.
They're looking for the crown ofSABIC inside a mountain.
And, Adriana's brother stayswith the van while the other
three journey into the mountainand Ishma vanishes and Samir
goes to look for him whileAdriana searches for the crown.

ZaneMan (06:15):
You waiting for me to say something?
I don't know.
Uike she has a necklace and thekid has a skateboard.

P Lantern (06:22):
Yeah.
Why is the necklace alwayssomeone's grandma's necklace?

ZaneMan (06:26):
Well, because someone's grandma is always like the most
important character, it's likeevery grandma is as important as
the ratin endgame.

Jonni Boy (06:35):
That is true.
So Samir falls to the grounddying near Kareem, who's out in
the van, and 10 armored menshoot him to make, make sure he
is dead.
Ishmael turns up andsaid Samirneeded some air.
It's the first indication thatsome, uh, nefarious things might
be going on.

ZaneMan (06:54):
Yeah.
I mean, they always be lying.
Yep.
I feel like this is a very basicmovie start.

P Lantern (06:59):
It is also, it's not armored, it's armed.
They did not have armor on.
They were armed with likeweapons and stuff.
You said 10 armored men.

Jonni Boy (07:10):
They have they had armor on too, didn't they
really?
No, they were not.
Like, they had like Kevlar on,didn't they?

P Lantern (07:14):
That's not armored though.

Jonni Boy (07:16):
Oh, well that's what I put down.

ZaneMan (07:17):
Seems like black p is taking my job of correcting him.

Jonni Boy (07:20):
I know.
He always does.
Just so you know, and just so, elantern will understand as well.
We might not go over everysingle aspect of the movie.
there probably some things we'regonna skip people can watch the
movie and look at the minutia ofthe,movie.

(07:50):
They continue to search, andfind a tomb of the 10th Adam
slave who became champion anddefeated the king.
They find the crown and Adrianaclimbs to get to it, and the men
with guns enter with Kareem andcapture isel.

P Lantern (08:06):
You mean the armed men?

Jonni Boy (08:08):
That's right.

ZaneMan (08:09):
He was worried he is gonna mess it up again.
So he avoided the wordaltogether.

Jonni Boy (08:12):
That's right.
That's what I do.
they shot at Adriana and shehides until they put a gun to
her brother Kareem's head.
They capture her over the tomb.
They take the crown, theysurround her and ask any last
words.
They're, they're just asking forit.
And what does she say?

ZaneMan (08:28):
she wants to thank her mom and dad and her grandma for
getting her here.
And her teachers.
I don't, I'm guessing

Jonni Boy (08:40):
she's like, hello there.

ZaneMan (08:42):
I'm assuming I'm right on the money right now.

Jonni Boy (08:43):
She's like, Shaza.

ZaneMan (08:45):
She said, Shazam.

Jonni Boy (08:46):
She said Shazam.
And a big explosion and amysterious figure up here.

ZaneMan (08:50):
Wait, what'd she say?
What?

P Lantern (08:50):
Yeah.
Repeat that

Jonni Boy (08:51):
Shazam

P Lantern (08:52):
one more time.

Jonni Boy (08:53):
Shazam.

ZaneMan (08:53):
Oh, Shazam.

P Lantern (08:56):
Oh, I didn't catch him.
The first few time

Jonni Boy (08:58):
the men with guns surround her and one goes to
check him out or surround theguy 10th, Adam electrocutes him
from skin to Bones.
They open fire and 10th Adamsays your magic is weak.

ZaneMan (09:14):
I mean, when you can disintegrate someone, you would
think that bullets are weak, Iguess.

Jonni Boy (09:21):
I mean, they're just shooting at him and he just
disintegrates that kid all theway down to his bone.

P Lantern (09:24):
So what's, what's his name again?

Jonni Boy (09:27):
Teth.
Adam.

P Lantern (09:28):
There you go.

Jonni Boy (09:28):
Teth Adam raises up off the ground and Adrian and
Kareem fl Teth adam takes on thearmed men and flies outside of
the cave.
Now, you know, we're in a cave,

ZaneMan (09:40):
uh oh.
Oh,

Jonni Boy (09:41):
That's where we were the whole time.

ZaneMan (09:45):
I was just confused.
I don't think you set up thescene very well.
Yeah.
I need you to tell me the exactdate, time, and, uh, area that
it's set in every time.

Jonni Boy (09:56):
So Adrian and, and Kareem take off in the van with
the Crown Teth.
Adam takes on two helicopters, adozen armored trucks, and many
mercenaries in slow motion withpainted black plane by the
Rolling Stones in thebackground.

ZaneMan (10:13):
I'm sorry, you said mercenary.
I thought these were mercies.

Jonni Boy (10:17):
Yep.
That.

ZaneMan (10:18):
Oh, okay.
They're, they're both there.

Jonni Boy (10:21):
One mercenary shoots him with an eter rocket in
wounds.
Teth Adam, but also makes himstronger.
He flies away and crashes downalmost immediately.
And Adriana has her brother gethim in the van because, you
know, he's an electrician.

ZaneMan (10:36):
I mean like Teth Adam, he has the powers electricity.
He's an electrician.

P Lantern (10:42):
Same thing.

ZaneMan (10:42):
You're the exact same thing

Jonni Boy (10:43):
at the same superpowers.
Two erum bikes in the sky andthey call the mercenaries.
Only Ishmail is alive.
Cause he shoots the main guy, Iguess, for not being able to
control of the situation.

ZaneMan (10:58):
That's his fault,

P Lantern (10:59):
honestly.
That's on him.
It's a skill issue.

ZaneMan (11:00):
I was gonna say, it's only a skill issue.

Jonni Boy (11:02):
Yeah.
So you know, no HR here.
Hawk Man's Estate in Louisiana.
Carter Hall Hawkman is watchingnews footage of Teth Adam,
Amanda Waller comes on thescreen.
He says wheels up in 30.
Amanda says, who's on the team?
We meet Maxine, a k a Cyclone,wind manipulation powers,

(11:24):
computer skills.
Smart as hell.

ZaneMan (11:27):
I think that you shouldn't have needed these many
people on a team.
I think like, like one or twopeople would've been fine.

Jonni Boy (11:35):
Well, they had her and they had Adam Smasher

ZaneMan (11:38):
because I think adam Smasher did a lot more damage
than he helped in this movie.

Jonni Boy (11:43):
True.

P Lantern (11:44):
And, that Cyclone girl was pretty bad as all
things go.
Ike she didn't really add much.

Jonni Boy (11:52):
She had that win element.
Yeah.
Tornado.
You know, Cyclone Al Rothsteinis the nephew to the original
Adam, Smasher plus Kent NelsonDr.
Fate Magic to fight Magic iswhat he says.
Carter tells Amanda to find acell to hold Teth Adam and
they'll take care of the rest.

ZaneMan (12:12):
I think the, I forgot all their names already.
Geez, man.
You're really, I mean, where arewe even, you didn't even set up
the location

P Lantern (12:20):
Cyclone.

Jonni Boy (12:21):
I said we were at Hawkeye's Estate.
I mean, haw Man's estate.

ZaneMan (12:24):
Hawkeye's Estate,

Jonni Boy (12:25):
yeah.

ZaneMan (12:26):
Are we in Marvel

Jonni Boy (12:26):
Christmas time?

P Lantern (12:27):
Yeah.
Hawkeye.

ZaneMan (12:28):
Oh, I think Dr.
Fate and his friend could haveall done this themselves.

P Lantern (12:35):
Oh yeah.
Big time.

ZaneMan (12:36):
so I don't know what the other two are there for.

P Lantern (12:39):
oh, we forgot the part where they were like
flirting with each other, theentire movie.

ZaneMan (12:45):
They were, but we didn't get to the entire movie
yet.

P Lantern (12:48):
Oh, sorry.

ZaneMan (12:50):
Yeah, it's fine.

Jonni Boy (12:51):
Cyclone asks what's the op Hawkman says they're
headed to conduct, to apprehendan, a class, metahuman Rogue
Metahuman.
We find out from Dr.
Fate, they're the JusticeSociety and they fly out on an
infant metal ship.
That launches from a man'sgarden

P Lantern (13:10):
like the X-Men ship from Professor Xavier.

Jonni Boy (13:13):
And I don't know when I should say this or when I
shouldn't say this, but I feellike the ship was shaped a
certain way.

ZaneMan (13:21):
what way is it shaped?
shaped

Jonni Boy (13:22):
like a penis.

ZaneMan (13:23):
Whoa, whoa.

Jonni Boy (13:25):
I'm just gonna say it.

ZaneMan (13:26):
whoa.
Yeah.
That's an opinion.

Jonni Boy (13:29):
Yeah, it was to me.
I mean, I know that's childishand everything, but that's what
every time I looked at the shipI was like, now come on.
They couldn't have been done abetter design than this.
See, seriously,

P Lantern (13:38):
I mean, it's probably aerodynamic

Jonni Boy (13:41):
That's probably true.

P Lantern (13:43):
That's with the term helicopter in this,

Jonni Boy (13:45):
when, you know, when resistant Teth Adam wakes up and
amman's, DC poster filled room.
And he burns a hole in theSuperman poster and fixes his
own injury.
Ahman talks to Teth, Adam saidhe's been in a tomb for 5,000
years until mom woke you upstopping bullets.
He's got that check, flyingcheck, lightning check.

(14:08):
I love how they, you know,always say what kind of powers
they have.

ZaneMan (14:13):
Yeah.
But it's important to set up andthey always choose to do it the
same way.
Set up the exact same time.

P Lantern (14:18):
They got some stupid nerd like in the Shaza movies.
Like, what powers do you have?

ZaneMan (14:24):
You liked Darla in the Shaza movies.

P Lantern (14:26):
Yeah.
Shas,

Jonni Boy (14:28):
Adriana comes home to read the inscription on the
crown.
Life is the only path to death.
This will come into play lateron.
Ahman is trying to talk, to TethAdam, to be conduct's Hero and
Teth Adam walks.
Through the wall to the otherroom with Kareem and Adriana.

(14:49):
and he fries a tv,

ZaneMan (14:50):
honestly, around the house.
That's exactly how Black PXjust,

Jonni Boy (14:54):
yeah, he just goes through the walls,

ZaneMan (14:56):
walking through walls, zap and tv.
I mean, it's all he does ever.

Jonni Boy (14:59):
Well, we, gotta get a new tv like every time we turn
around

P Lantern (15:02):
except one more thing.
Oh, yeah.
Raid the pantry every time Icome over.

Jonni Boy (15:07):
Oh, that's true too.
He brought his own food today,

ZaneMan (15:10):
but he also proceeded to steal our food as well.
I don't know if you know that.

Jonni Boy (15:14):
Well, I gave him some food, so.

ZaneMan (15:15):
No, he stole something from the pantry as well.

Jonni Boy (15:18):
Oh, that's all right.
I'm sure he put it in his coatpocket when he went in your
room.

P Lantern (15:21):
Hey, that's my thing.
You don't need to know that.

Jonni Boy (15:25):
I knew that he had gotten a Debbie cake.
Yeah.
Not, not sponsored by the way,just I know he got a Debbie
cake.

ZaneMan (15:32):
Yeah.
Well, just don't say that.
It's a Debbie cake.

Jonni Boy (15:35):
Okay.
I won't say it's a Debbie cakeBudge around.
Or Star Crunch.

ZaneMan (15:38):
Okay.
Don't say either of those thingscuz that I won't, they'll think
that we're sponsored and we'renot.

Jonni Boy (15:42):
I'm not gonna say that at all.

ZaneMan (15:44):
What was it though?

Jonni Boy (15:45):
It was a star crunch or a fudge round.

ZaneMan (15:47):
Okay.
Just avoid those two words tothe rest of,

Jonni Boy (15:49):
won't say it at all.
Okay.

ZaneMan (15:51):
Don't say Star Crunch or Fudge Round.

Jonni Boy (15:53):
I won't say Star Crunch or Fu Round anymore.
Okay.
Adriana wants the champion tofree conduct from inner gang
Teth.
Adam walks through another wallinto the hall, Ahman follows at
Teth Adam and says he needs anew, catchphrase and name and
should lead into the black sincehe wears it.

(16:13):
Teth Adam leaves the building.

ZaneMan (16:15):
are you gonna talk about?
The catchphrase that he saysthroughout the entire movie.

Jonni Boy (16:18):
Uh, but you can,

ZaneMan (16:19):
I don't remember what it was.
I was gonna ask you if you.

P Lantern (16:22):
I mean, you're the notes guy.

Jonni Boy (16:24):
Tell him the men in Black sent you.

ZaneMan (16:25):
Oh yeah.
Tell him the men black sent you.
That was, I mean, honestly,

Jonni Boy (16:29):
he was killing the guys before he could tell'em.

ZaneMan (16:32):
Yeah.
I liked that catch phrase.
I liked the part, uh, where hekilled the guy and then said it,
I don't like the where the kidcomes.
I was like, no, say it before.
I like the main part where hekilled the guy and said it
after.

Jonni Boy (16:43):
Yeah, it's pretty good.
The Justice Society flying toconduct with Dr., Fate and
Carter discussing their plan.
Bad plan is better than anyplanet.
No plan at all.
Dr., Fate knows if Teth Adamsays Shazam, he will lose his
power.

ZaneMan (16:59):
He's still like, powerful.
He's like, cool.
Yeah.
He's kind of, if you think aboutit, he's kind of sick with it.
So,

P Lantern (17:05):
oh, for real.

Jonni Boy (17:06):
True.
Teth, Adam flies out, to hisstatue.
Ahman gets inner gang to followhim.
Adriana saves her son Teth.
Adam then has a showdown withinner gang Zaps all five and
says, tell'em the men in blackssince you Yeah, after they were
already killed.

ZaneMan (17:24):
kid comes out, he's like, no, he had to saved before
it doesn't work.
And he's like, whining and, youknow, he's a kid.

Jonni Boy (17:30):
But it was like a showdown because he had, you
know, when he zapped a movie, itwas a movie where he was getting
ready to draw his pistol.
So he kind of had his hand near,uh, his hip before he did the
electricity.
I dunno if you, if you noticedthat or not, Justice Society
shows up with Teth Adam holdingtwo inner gang high up in the
air, and Carter jumps out of theplane as Hawkman and Dr.

(17:53):
Fate joins him, leaving Cycloneand Adam Smasher on the plane.
Hawkman saves the two inter gangTeth Adam kills them.

ZaneMan (18:03):
I mean, it's kind of in the name.
Well, did we say what Tethmeans?
No.
All right, well, we'll, we won'tspoil it.
It means death.

Jonni Boy (18:11):
There you go.
Just spoiled it.
Wait, wait.
We didn't tell'em there wasgonna be spoilers if they hadn't
seen the movie yet.

P Lantern (18:17):
since you're already like half an hour in, there will
be spoilers for the shows andmovies.

Jonni Boy (18:23):
Just wanna make sure that they realize there's a
couple spoilers we have to talkabout.
Aman tells Teth Adam that theyare the Justice Society.
Dr.
Fate tells him there's no placein the world of man.
Adam Hawkman and Dr.
Fate fighting the streets ofconduct.
Dr.
Fate strikes 10th Adam bysending him back to his time,

(18:44):
uh, 10th Adams time.
So Hawkman can punch him andtell him to say Suzanne so they
can go home.
But that doesn't happen.

ZaneMan (18:51):
Oh, I thought, I thought he was gonna do it.
So he could say, telling the menin black sent you.

P Lantern (18:56):
Oh yeah.

ZaneMan (18:58):
I mean, cuz that's the only reasonable thing to say.

Jonni Boy (19:00):
Yeah.
He hadn't said The men inBlacken, a man and Teth Adam
take their fight into the airwhile Cyclone and Adam Smasher
suit up on the plane.
Dr.
Fate calls them from the planeand they jump out.
Cyclone uses wind to whip up thescaffolding and throws it at
10th Adam and traps him.
Dr.
Fate saves Adriana and Ammanteleporting them to a higher

(19:20):
street level and releases, um,Adriana and finds out she has
the crown of.

ZaneMan (19:26):
I mean honestly, poor construction workers facts, they
had to set up all that stuff andthen here comes Cyclone just
being like, oops, winded away.

P Lantern (19:34):
Oops.
I threw it.
I threw it all in the trash

Jonni Boy (19:37):
and they're just knocking it down too, so

P Lantern (19:39):
And that was Adam Smasher.

ZaneMan (19:41):
Yeah, adam Smasher.
He just like got all big andthen he just fell in a building.
That's all he did.

P Lantern (19:46):
He just kept breaking stuff.

Jonni Boy (19:48):
Hawkman and Teth Adam continue to fight and many Dr.
Fate join in wrestling.
Teth Adam, just as Dr.
Fate, Cyclone and Hawkman areabout to do 10th Adam and a big
lightning explosion lights upthe sky while Adam Smasher
trying to find the fight.
He knows where it's at now.
Adam Smasher catches Teth Adamand knocks him out, or he kind

(20:10):
of holds him down.

ZaneMan (20:11):
So this is really off topic, but it's got my brain
going.
How do you think Adam Smasherwould stealth something?

Jonni Boy (20:19):
Probably couldn't.
He's too big.
Exactly.
Unless he was regular size andthen'Ched up.

P Lantern (20:23):
Well, I was gonna say you could like run in with like
regular stuff on and then getssuper big right in the middle of
everything and he would stealfor totally like say he was like
grabbing like a little box orsomething.
He runs and he grabs the box andthen do escape.
He just turned to, he's alreadyaccomplished what he needs to
stealth for.

ZaneMan (20:41):
Yeah, I guess so.
I mean, Imwe will get in hisstealth later with the video
game because someone heredoesn't know how to stealth a
mission.

Jonni Boy (20:48):
Yo, I'm goaded.

ZaneMan (20:50):
We'll talk about it later.

Jonni Boy (20:52):
the crowd in the streets.
Chant long-lived the championTeth Adam flies away and the
justice o discusses how theywere defeated Justices justice.
All right.
Change the name of the group.
Yeah.
You're society just sounds so.

(21:12):
Silly Sounds better.
Yeah,

ZaneMan (21:16):
I think I like Cisco.

Jonni Boy (21:18):
It brings a little bit of umph, you know, to the
name.

P Lantern (21:21):
Oh yeah.
Little something.

Jonni Boy (21:22):
A little bit of something.
Something.

ZaneMan (21:22):
Yeah, definitely.

Jonni Boy (21:23):
Yeah.
Dr.
Fate confronts Adriana about thecrown and she confronts them
right back about where they havebeen for 27 years.
Burn.
It's not until, they know thatthey have a champion that the
Justice Society shows up.
Burn.

ZaneMan (21:40):
Burn.

P Lantern (21:41):
Yeah.
Burn.

Jonni Boy (21:43):
She burned.

ZaneMan (21:44):
What are we talking?
I I'm completely lost.
I got distracted.

P Lantern (21:47):
Well, so they like talked to Adriana cuz she has
the crown and the Hawkman waslike you.
And she was like, wow, you got,we've been waging war on these
mercenary guys for like 27years.
Merc Mercer.
Mercers Mercies.
Mercery guys.
Mercies and guys show up nowlike,

ZaneMan (22:07):
right.
Yeah.
I remember.
And she was like, yeah, we gottaget Teth Adam over here.

Jonni Boy (22:12):
Yeah.
Teth.
Adam.
Yeah.
Justice Society follows Adrianato the temple.
10th Adam went, um, to after thecrowd chanting 10th Adam is
looking at the statue of himselfoutside the temple.
She says 10th Adam is afterrevenge and they flashback to

(22:34):
the king, almost getting thecrown.
And 10th Adam flying in with hisanger power Ru and he became
uncontrollable and he blew upthe temple.
The council wizards forced todeem you unworthy, she says, and
they trapped 10th Adam.
Adriana did not open deathAdam's tomb, but is prison.

(22:56):
She wants him to be a Hero.

P Lantern (22:59):
Hey, real quick, you missed a few things, not to get
in every minute Deep

Jonni Boy (23:05):
told you I wasn't gonna get in the minutia of the
Justice Society.

ZaneMan (23:08):
Where are we?

P Lantern (23:09):
Um, real quick?
Uh, It's Teth Adam.
You keep calling him 10th of

Jonni Boy (23:15):
I know.
I'm gonna say that the wholetime.
Probably

ZaneMan (23:17):
the 10th of the Adams.

P Lantern (23:18):
Oh.
Oh, okay.
Anyways, he killed a couple ofthe wizards while they were
trying to cage him.
You forgot that part, which isimportant for the Shazam movies.

Jonni Boy (23:27):
True, true.

P Lantern (23:28):
So that's one of those details.
It's not like as minute as youthink it is.
It's kinda like one of the onesit's like, well, all the other
wizards died.
Why?

Jonni Boy (23:37):
Yeah.
Cuz there was like one, one oldguy left.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At the, uh, at Shazam

P Lantern (23:43):
because he is the one who finally put him the prison
and then, you know.

Jonni Boy (23:46):
I did not realize that.
Ahman goes home and Ishmail isthere to get the crown.
Kareem tackles ishmail and getsshot.

ZaneMan (23:55):
He's dead.

Jonni Boy (23:56):
Bump bump.
Um,

ZaneMan (23:57):
well, they're dead.

Jonni Boy (23:58):
The Justice Society beats with Teth Adam.
Ahman calls Adriana to let herknow Ishma is alive and wants to
crown And inner gang is in thebuilding.
She wants Teth Adam to save herson.
Inner gang surrounds the insideof the building and Ahman
attempts to escape on hisskateboard.
A attorney bike captures him,uh, releases him with Teth Adam

(24:22):
attacks.
Ishmael captures Ahman to findnot any crown, and he escapes on
the attorney bike with Teth AdamIn Pursuit.
Several bikes are in the air andTeth Adam and the Justice
Society assists him.
Teth Adam crashes the lastspeeder bike and doesn't save
Amman.

ZaneMan (24:41):
You know, when I was watching this movie, I was
wondering where did the bikescome from and the entire time, I
was just wondering now they, cuzit kept being brought up and
they were just like, They'rereally powerful and they could
fly at the speed of light.
And I was like, where, where arethese bikes from?

P Lantern (24:59):
And then I was just, I was watching it and I was
like, what, what's the point?

Jonni Boy (25:04):
Well, they kind of didn't explain it, but then
later on as we'll find out,inter Gang has a, a big site
that they go to at the end thatis a mine.
And so they probably have minedEtherium cuz it, if you look at
the movie on captions it said,it says Etherium Bike.

P Lantern (25:23):
Right.
They also Hadum Cannons.

Jonni Boy (25:26):
Yes.

P Lantern (25:27):
So they had to, I just mind it.

ZaneMan (25:29):
I just feel like it should have been set up better.

P Lantern (25:31):
Yeah.

Jonni Boy (25:32):
Should have explained it a little bit better where
they came from.
Cuz they did just come outtanowhere and you're like, who are
these guys?
And you kind of knew they werewith Inner Gang, but they really
didn't, or with Ishma in InnerGang, but they never really
explained it.

ZaneMan (25:43):
Yeah.
They feel like they just keptgetting, gaining abilities
whenever they needed to.
Like they had a storagecompartment and they could go at
like the speed of light.
I didn't understand it as it washappening.

Jonni Boy (25:52):
Cyclone saves Kareem Teth.
Adam shows up to Adriana's housewith Dr., Fate and Hawkman, and
he has two prisoners.
Inter Gang has a mine in themountains.
Teth, Adam and Hawkman fight inthe apartment to discover the
Crown.
Adriana forces Teth Adam and theJustice Society team up to get

(26:13):
Amman.
They debrief and while they'redebriefing, this is funny.
Teth Adam takes off and takes oninner gang all by himself.
Yeah, starts killing everybody.

ZaneMan (26:22):
He can do it.

Jonni Boy (26:24):
AK man.
It want him to kill anybody.

ZaneMan (26:26):
Well, that's on him.

P Lantern (26:27):
Honestly, he's not Batman.
Come on now.

Jonni Boy (26:30):
Yeah, that's true

ZaneMan (26:31):
for real.

Jonni Boy (26:32):
Ishma has ahman behind an Etherium Shield in
that mine.
Teth.
Adam cannot break throughJustice Society and Adriana show
up and Ishma wants to crown,puts a gun to Ahman saying, and
Adriana says she has the crown.
Everyone gets covered as Teth.
Adam again explodes a lightningbomb basically around them.

(26:53):
And Teth Adam, actually did hurtIman and Ishma is holding onto
the crown and he's crushed now.

ZaneMan (27:01):
He's crushed.

Jonni Boy (27:02):
Well, he looked like he wasn't bones like the other
guy, but it was burnt.

ZaneMan (27:07):
Like pizza crust.

Jonni Boy (27:08):
Yeah, like burnt.

ZaneMan (27:10):
Oh, he burned it,

Jonni Boy (27:10):
like burned chicken.

ZaneMan (27:11):
Some people liked him to be burned.

Jonni Boy (27:14):
Yeah.

P Lantern (27:14):
Crispy,

Jonni Boy (27:15):
crispy, crispy chicken nuggets.

ZaneMan (27:17):
I like mine to have a lot of sauce on it.
That's how I like my pizza.

P Lantern (27:19):
That's sauce.
Ketchup.

Jonni Boy (27:21):
Ketchup is what we used to put on our, pizza at
school cuz it didn't have anytaste to it.

ZaneMan (27:26):
What?

Jonni Boy (27:27):
Yeah, like a sheet of cheese.
a man and Teth Adam meets at thetemple again.
We find out about a root.
And Teth.
Adam, he was the father of thetrue champion.
He is not the champion, he isthe father of the true champion,

(27:49):
which is Haru.
And the king went after him andhis wife because Haru was the
champion.
Haru the champion, had his dadrepeat the word.
Shaza.
Well, he and his dad became thechampion.

ZaneMan (28:07):
Yeah.
And then his dad, killed thewizards.

Jonni Boy (28:10):
that wasn't until a little bit later, but Yes.

ZaneMan (28:12):
he brought it up earlier.

P Lantern (28:13):
You should have mentioned why he had to repeat
Shazam.
That's cuz when they were comingafter him he got shot with an
arrow.
Yes.

Jonni Boy (28:22):
So he, does die.
and then 10th Adam goes into theair and because of his rage,
he's wearing some kind ofuniform but then it turns all
black.

ZaneMan (28:33):
Yeah.
Cuz he is bad now.

Jonni Boy (28:36):
Yeah.
He's supposedly not the Hero.
And that's a theme throughoutthis movie, heroes and Villains
and, and Hawkeye even saidsomething, we're the heroes not
the villain.

ZaneMan (28:46):
You say Hawkeye again.

Jonni Boy (28:48):
I did Hawkman.

ZaneMan (28:50):
Go back to the Marvel universe.

Jonni Boy (28:52):
And, you know, I'm glad that they paid attention to
detail, but if you noticed onhis ship, Hawkman had his logo
everywhere.
Yeah.
I mean, they were on the seats.
They were on the doors.
I mean, they were everywhere.
So you, you knew who ship itwas.
Didn't question that.
It would've been cooler, I thinkif they would've had the logos
of Dr., Fate or whoever on theseats they were sitting in.

(29:13):
But that, that didn't happen.

ZaneMan (29:14):
Well, you see, he didn't expect guests.

P Lantern (29:16):
He also like that wasn't his only team wasn't the
only people he worked with.
Cause he's like the worstsuperhero ever.

ZaneMan (29:26):
Yeah.
The worst teammates.

Jonni Boy (29:28):
Teth Adam says to Hawkman, some men aren't meant
to be heroes.
The Justice Society fly TethAdam to a task force Xite,
where, har court is there frompeacemaker and she takes over
the body of Teth Adam becausethey did get him to say Shazam

ZaneMan (29:46):
gross.

Jonni Boy (29:47):
And so he's gonna be locked up now.

ZaneMan (29:50):
Oh, right.

Jonni Boy (29:51):
Submerged in water with something over his face.
So he can't say any words.

ZaneMan (29:55):
I just remembered when we were watching this movie, I
thought it was gonna end likefour different times.

P Lantern (30:01):
Facts

Jonni Boy (30:01):
Yeah.
I think it was around this timewhen they captured him.
I thought the movie was overtoo, and I started to fall
asleep in a theater.

ZaneMan (30:08):
Yeah.
I thought this was already gonnaend.
There was another point where Ithought, I was like, all right,
can't be like more than fiveminutes.

Jonni Boy (30:14):
And I woke up and it was still going and I was like,
I thought that was the end.
They captured him.
That was the end.
And there was other thingsgoing.

ZaneMan (30:19):
So you intentionally fell asleep

Jonni Boy (30:21):
and intentionally Imwe

ZaneMan (30:22):
end.
So we would've to wake you up.

Jonni Boy (30:24):
No, I just, just fell asleep.
Sure.
Just, you know, old man passingout

P Lantern (30:29):
that movie, was super long.

ZaneMan (30:32):
It's like 17 hours.

Jonni Boy (30:34):
I think when I was doing the notes, I was like, I
got another hour and a halfleft.
I mean, didn't, didn't I alreadywatch an hour and a half?
Goodness Gracious gracious.

P Lantern (30:42):
I saw this movie in theaters.
Luckily I saw it at, a place, Idon't know the name of, that you
can order food while you watchedthe movie.

Jonni Boy (30:50):
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.

P Lantern (30:51):
Yeah.
And I got a full course meal.

Jonni Boy (30:54):
I'm sure you ate probably like four times.

P Lantern (30:56):
All.
Yeah.
I had enough for like a, it's, Igot a shareable thing.
I got wings, onion rings,chicken tenderers, corn, dog
nuggets, mozzarella sticks,

ZaneMan (31:08):
you, you know what it says, Cher with those artists,
supposed they're not sable

P Lantern (31:12):
nachos.
Uh, and like two pretzels.
And I ate it all myself.
And I like a Coke too.

Jonni Boy (31:18):
Yeah.
I wonder how he got outta theseat with all that stuff.

ZaneMan (31:21):
I know.
I thought it would just getstuck.

P Lantern (31:23):
I ate it in like the first hour and then I was hungry
after.

Jonni Boy (31:27):
Yeah.
I like those movies where youcan eat, but yeah, I could see
where you'd probably, youprobably would've had lunch,
dinner.
And breakfast all while watchingthis movie.

ZaneMan (31:37):
Within the span of the 17 hours,

Jonni Boy (31:38):
so Adriana figures out that the words on the Crown
did not read.
Life is the only path to death.
It actually reads death is theonly path to life.
And the reason why she figuresthat out, because when Ishmael
has the crown, he says itbackwards.
Death is the only path to light.
So they flip the crown upsidedown and they realize that its

(32:02):
death is the only path to light.
Then you're like, oh, crap.
And then Ishma they have thebody, of course, on the plane,
and he starts to light up andcomes back to life as sabic.
He says the word sabic andbecomes the Demonn sabic.
And he crashes the JusticeSociety's ship.

(32:24):
Dr., Fate, Cyclone, Hawkman,Adam, Smasher.
Take him on.

ZaneMan (32:30):
Wow.

Jonni Boy (32:31):
This is probably when I woke back up and I was like,
oh, we're still doing the movie.

ZaneMan (32:35):
You didn't fall asleep that long ago.

Jonni Boy (32:37):
was just kind of like, I shut my eyes and I
thought I was out for like anhour, but it was only a few
minutes.

ZaneMan (32:41):
That's me going to sleep at night.

Jonni Boy (32:43):
Yeah.
Dr.
Fate, puts up a force field and,he basically takes on Sabec
alone because he had seen avision of them dying.
And Dr.
Fate is gonna sacrifice himself.
He calls on Teth, Adam, givinghim the choice of to be a
destroyer or being a savior.

(33:03):
Dr.
Fate, bu bum bu dies.

ZaneMan (33:10):
Was it his f.
Sorry, I was doing the wholetheme song.

Jonni Boy (33:19):
Teth Adam swims to the surface.
The Justice Society witnessedDr.
Face Depp.
Saba brings Back the Dead bysitting on the throne that we
had seen in that same, sameplace.
The same

ZaneMan (33:36):
Oh, okay.
I was, I was like, where are we?
We been, yeah.
Haven't like introduced ourplace in a while.

Jonni Boy (33:42):
Teth Adam sees a vision of his family and his son
because he's probably on theverge of death and his son said
it's not his time.
Ahman inspires the crowd.
Teth.
Adam says Shazam.
Teth.
Adam fights Saba and savesHawkman.

ZaneMan (33:57):
Wait, what did he say?

Jonni Boy (33:59):
Shazam.

ZaneMan (33:59):
Shazam.

Jonni Boy (34:01):
Shazam.

ZaneMan (34:02):
Oh, Shazam.

Jonni Boy (34:03):
Hawkman picks up Dr.
Fate's helmet and many Hawkmantake on Saba.
Teth Adam and the crowd takes onthe Undead and Teth.
Adam helps injured Hawkman Dr..
Fate helmet disappears.
Justice Society leaves thecrowd.
They chance Long Live thechampion As Teth Adam sits on

(34:24):
the throne and destroys it.
He tells them to call himsomething else besides Teth
Adam.
And the movie ends on,

ZaneMan (34:31):
what'd they call him?

Jonni Boy (34:32):
Black Adam.

ZaneMan (34:34):
No, but they didn't say it.

Jonni Boy (34:35):
They didn't say it, but

ZaneMan (34:36):
what'd they call him?

Jonni Boy (34:37):
I don't know if you guys, you know, know of, you
know the older Batman, the onewith no heath legend played the
Joker and all that stuff.
So at the very end of the movieis when the movie begins.
So it's kind of like taking onDC legacy that Here it is at the
end of the movie.

ZaneMan (34:53):
Yeah.
Well, they can never be HeathLedger.

Jonni Boy (34:56):
True.
Hey, so at the end of the movie,he's black Adam

P Lantern (34:59):
Real quick.
You skipped over a lot.

Jonni Boy (35:02):
Number one told you I wasn't gonna talk about all the
minutia.

P Lantern (35:06):
I know

Jonni Boy (35:07):
people go watch the movie.
It's 14 hours long.
Yeah,

ZaneMan (35:10):
but only 17 hours today.

P Lantern (35:11):
But there are a few key parts that you skipped over,
like the throne.
You had never mentioned thatonce until the end.
You also didn't mention thatTeth Adam was a little dude and
he had to fight off all theguards as a little dude until he
could get the mouthpiece off andhe like broke out of prison.
So, you know, you gotta rememberto mention those parts.

Jonni Boy (35:34):
Like I said, you can take the 14 hours and order,
order all your 17 shareables.

P Lantern (35:40):
I actually went with somebody else and didn't share.

Jonni Boy (35:42):
I'm sure you did.

ZaneMan (35:43):
The shareables, they are shareable, they're, it's not
shareable in quotations like you

P Lantern (35:48):
No, it was quotations.
It was like 20 bucks though.
And I got it for

ZaneMan (35:52):
Yeah, it's, it's 20 bucks because it's shareable.

P Lantern (35:56):
But I got it for like free,

ZaneMan (35:57):
for like free.

Jonni Boy (35:59):
Because the movie was so long.

P Lantern (36:00):
No, cuz I know someone that works there.

Jonni Boy (36:02):
Oh, that, yeah, that's too, yeah.
There is an after credit scene.

ZaneMan (36:06):
No, there's none.

Jonni Boy (36:06):
Which I mean, after, you know, all of the, stuff that
we're gonna talk about here in asecond about the DC eu, going to
the DC u, we can just pour out alittle bit of for all the after
credit scene, cuz none of'em aregonna do anything now.
But anyway, a drone drops down,it's Amanda Waller and she says,
okay, black Adam and gives him awarning conduct is his prison.

(36:30):
She says she can send someonefrom other planets and he's
like, send them all.

ZaneMan (36:38):
Yeah, why not?

Jonni Boy (36:40):
And then Superman shows up and says, it's been a
while since anyone's made theworld, you know, nervous and, We
need to talk black Adam.

ZaneMan (36:49):
It's been a while since anyone has had a, an avenger
level threat is what she said.

Jonni Boy (36:54):
Yeah.
And so they're playing the whathe said to old Superman theme,
they all said it.
And so it, it doesn't make anydifference because there's not
gonna be another Superman andthere's not gonna be another
Aquaman, there's not gonna beall this stuff.
Wonder Woman three is up inlimbo and all kinds of D C U
stuff that, Mr.

(37:14):
Guns stopped

ZaneMan (37:15):
and then superman said, it's moron time.

Jonni Boy (37:19):
Yeah.
None of that is, none of that'shappening now.
because they decided to go in adifferent direction.

P Lantern (37:24):
Yeah.
And then Black Adam and Supermandid the fusion dance.

Jonni Boy (37:28):
he's not gonna, probably, he's gonna do other
things, but he might, you know,they're gonna, they're gonna
reboot probably Teth.
Adam.
They're probably gonna rebootthe whole.
DC you, how do you guys feelabout all of that stuff?
Not being part of the processanymore?
I didn't even know that wasfunny.

P Lantern (37:48):
No, you missed it.

ZaneMan (37:50):
I don't want that in there.

P Lantern (37:53):
Oh God.

ZaneMan (37:55):
Anyway, um, movie was pretty interesting.
Anyway,

Jonni Boy (38:07):
but what about all of that stuff going on with James
Gunn and Peter Saffron?
Okay.
And them canceling all the D CU.

P Lantern (38:17):
Yeah, that sucks.

Jonni Boy (38:20):
we're really concerned about it over here at
Hero.
Chat.
Show.
Anyway, it's like, you know,whatever.
We knew it wasn't gonna amountto anything.
They're all on different worldsand different places and blah,
blah, blah.

ZaneMan (38:33):
Yeah.
Yeah, I think, I think, man, youknow, Yeah.

Jonni Boy (38:42):
So how would you rate this movie?
Would you watch this 10 hourmovie again?

ZaneMan (38:47):
So the 17 hours took a lot of time.
It was like 17 hours outta myday.

P Lantern (38:52):
Yeah, I remember I went in at like 12 and got out
at seven the next morning.

ZaneMan (38:57):
That's 19 hours.

P Lantern (38:58):
Yeah.

Jonni Boy (38:59):
I think that's why the CDs they would make them in
different chapters.
Cause I could see watching likea chapter of this and then
coming back to it and watching.
Cause it would almost be likethree movies in one.

ZaneMan (39:09):
Does anyone do that?

P Lantern (39:10):
No.

ZaneMan (39:10):
Is that what you're supposed to do?

P Lantern (39:11):
No,

Jonni Boy (39:12):
you don't have to, but you can.

P Lantern (39:13):
Nobody does that.

ZaneMan (39:14):
But is that what the purpose is?
I've never known that it was thepurpose.

Jonni Boy (39:16):
You could start where, like on the chapter and
selection.

P Lantern (39:19):
Well, like start where you left off.

ZaneMan (39:21):
I don't remember the last time I remember seeing like
chapters is when you had likethe movies in the car.

P Lantern (39:26):
Yeah.

ZaneMan (39:26):
Yeah.
That's where I remember chapterscoming in.

Jonni Boy (39:28):
But you don't have to, but it's something that you
could do in this movie cuz it'slike three movies into one.

P Lantern (39:33):
It's not, it's one movie into one.

Jonni Boy (39:36):
Okay.
So what'd you guys think aboutthis movie?
What would you guys rate this,what, you know,

P Lantern (39:40):
the solid 6.5.
It was not worth the time.

ZaneMan (39:44):
I think I like the part where he goes, it's moron time.

P Lantern (39:49):
They do the fusion dance

ZaneMan (39:52):
Yeah.

P Lantern (39:53):
what's the name?

ZaneMan (39:54):
super adam I think.

P Lantern (39:55):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I thought.

ZaneMan (39:57):
I think that the movie's like five 4.5 4.7 8 9,
10, 11, 12.

Jonni Boy (40:06):
I liked it when it came out, but then when I was
rewatching it, I was like, man,this movie's so long.

P Lantern (40:12):
Yeah.

Jonni Boy (40:12):
And then after all the stuff with the D C E U going
into the D C U and them cuttingeverything.
Now it's like, why do you evenwanna watch it?
Like it's not gonna do, youknow?

ZaneMan (40:22):
Yeah.
I don't think I would watch itagain.

P Lantern (40:24):
I would not watch it again.
actually put off watching it,and then one of my friends was
like, I'll get you in there forfree.
And I was like, yeah, if youfeed me,

Jonni Boy (40:32):
so go watch it.
it's a good time to spend 17hours and get some shareables.

ZaneMan (40:36):
Yeah.

Jonni Boy (40:36):
Yeah.

ZaneMan (40:37):
Well, I mean, s shareables not in quotations.

P Lantern (40:40):
Sharables,

Jonni Boy (40:41):
yeah.

ZaneMan (40:41):
No,

Jonni Boy (40:42):
that you don't have to share and you can eat
yourself.

ZaneMan (40:44):
No, it's not, it.

Jonni Boy (40:45):
Did we want to discuss this movie any further?
We just want to go right intothe shows.

P Lantern (40:50):
Nah, we're, I think the movie's done for

Jonni Boy (40:52):
movie is done.
We're gonna go into the show.
Yes.
All right.
Well here we go.

Daddylacus (40:57):
You are watching tv.
Hero, Chat, Show.

Jonni Boy (41:03):
All right.

We have Marvel's She-Hulk: Attorney at Law Tatiana Mosley (41:04):
undefined
as Jennifer Walters and GingerGonzalez as Nikki Ramos, Mala
Ariana as she hawk on the set.
Reference.
Mark Rallo is Bruce Banner.
Tim Roth is the Abomination.
It's on a new day, it's onThursdays, and it's created for

(41:24):
television by Jessica Galen.
It was aired on Disney plus

ZaneMan (41:29):
That was like four months ago.

Jonni Boy (41:31):
Yes.
Jennifer Walters navigates thecomp complicated life of a
single 30 something attorney whoalso happens to be a green, six
foot tall inch superpoweredHulk.

ZaneMan (41:42):
before we get into it, I just wanna say bad show
wouldn't watch again,

Jonni Boy (41:46):
man.
Just already rating it.

ZaneMan (41:47):
Yeah.
Zero to 10.

Jonni Boy (41:49):
You're making people really wanna listen to this next
part.

ZaneMan (41:52):
I think that you could probably, you could probably
like not watch this show.
I mean, there's probablysomething interesting in there.

Jonni Boy (42:00):
let's talk a little bit about it before we tell
people not to watch it.

ZaneMan (42:03):
You should listen to our commentary though.

Jonni Boy (42:05):
We will talk about episode five, mean green and
straight port into these jeans,That's the way the girls
describe me.
She Hawk Discovers Tatiana ownsthe name she Hawk and is suing
her for trademark infringement.

ZaneMan (42:23):
Yeah.
That, I mean, that's whathappens.
I guess

Jonni Boy (42:26):
it opens with Tatiana, commercial for She-Hulk
tatiana.

ZaneMan (42:31):
Tatiana.
Yes.
Isn't it Titania?

Jonni Boy (42:33):
Exactly.

ZaneMan (42:34):
So why are you saying Tatiana?

Jonni Boy (42:35):
Because I wanted you to correct me.

ZaneMan (42:37):
You were waiting.

Jonni Boy (42:37):
You never correct me.

ZaneMan (42:39):
Never.

Jonni Boy (42:39):
Yeah.
Ever, ever.

ZaneMan (42:40):
I've never corrected you.

Jonni Boy (42:43):
Jennifer's driving to work and she sees she hawk by ta
Titania ta

ZaneMan (42:48):
Titania.
You waiting again?

Jonni Boy (42:50):
Yeah.

ZaneMan (42:51):
Titania

Jonni Boy (42:52):
Titania Billboard Sponsors on the podcast.
She's listening to everywhereshe looks.
It's she Hawk by Titania.

ZaneMan (43:00):
and then she's like, yo, that's not cool.

Jonni Boy (43:02):
Like, why are they doing that?
I don't understand what they'redoing.
your favorite, uh, Chad bustinto, Jen's apartment asking her
to sign She Hawk by Tatianaproducts.
Jen explains to Chad thatTitania trademarked the name She
Hawk Chad explains howtrademarks work basically that's
when the She Hawk titles say shehawked.

(43:25):
Bye Titania.

ZaneMan (43:27):
There you go.

Jonni Boy (43:29):
You're welcome.
Nikki and Jen find out whereTitania will be by social media.
Jen confronts Titania by buddingin line of her signing.
Autograph Jen tells Titania totake all of this down.
Take all this crap down.

ZaneMan (43:47):
I don't think she has a right to say that.

Jonni Boy (43:49):
at the law office, she Hawk is complaining to Nikki
about the name and Titaniatitania.

ZaneMan (43:54):
Titania

Jonni Boy (43:55):
Titania stealing it.
She says she Hawk is just athing that happens to me.
parts.
She likes a amazing hair and nohangover.
P Acts Nicki for a favor and tostand in line with him for a
sneaker drop.
The Ironman threes are comingout limited to one per customer,
and he wants one to rock and oneto stock.

ZaneMan (44:18):
Wow.

Jonni Boy (44:19):
So Nick finds out about Pugs Drip Broker, and she
asks about custom clothing.
She's thinking about somethingfor SheHulk at the cafe.
Nicki and Pug arrive at the BobaCafe, pug tells Nicki it's a
front for a superhero clothingbusiness.
The shop owner shows themAvengers.
And it's actually not Avengers.

(44:39):
It's Avengers and Avin.
I n g E R S.

ZaneMan (44:45):
Yeah,

Jonni Boy (44:46):
T-shirts and Collections.
They get some gear, because hemakes them before he sets up a
meeting with the next personthat's up a consultation with
the next person.
Cuz this is not the guy.

ZaneMan (44:58):
Yeah, the merch was pretty cool.

Jonni Boy (45:00):
It was pretty funny with the wrong names on it and
they were rocking it.

ZaneMan (45:03):
Yeah,

Jonni Boy (45:04):
she, Hawk's Ball says to fix Titania using she hawk
using herself.
Mallory she Hawk's coworkertakes on the case.
She Hawk says, did Dr.
Strange or Thor trademarkedtheir names and Amelia's like,
you used the two people who usedtheir real names.

ZaneMan (45:24):
Yeah.

Jonni Boy (45:26):
Mallory asked Nikki to help her since She hawk and
look at the dress.
And then in court Mallory andshe Hawk arrive at court with
Titania Jen using the name SheHawk is, come to be known by
this Monier.
The Fence shows a video of shehawk denying the name.

ZaneMan (45:44):
I think that Ironman probably would've trademarked
his name.

Jonni Boy (45:47):
It's true.

ZaneMan (45:48):
He probably knows the legal trouble he can get into

Jonni Boy (45:51):
Nicki and she Hawk arrive at an appointment with
Luke.
He's the guy that, they set upthe appointment with Nikki talks
to him about making a regularsuit for she Hawk Todd, one of
the guys that she formally datesis talking to.
Amelia, Todd is a client ofAmelia and Todd says they should
reconnect.

ZaneMan (46:09):
No.

Jonni Boy (46:09):
Yeah, Todd's not a good guy.

ZaneMan (46:11):
Yeah, no one likes Todd.

Jonni Boy (46:13):
Outside the law offices, Nikki and Jen are
eating lunch, discussing Toddand Nikki says she's telling her
friends, he's went out on a datewith her as she hawk Jen reveals
the dating app and several datesas a pattern.
this is how she wins her case.
So she found a way to beat it.

ZaneMan (46:31):
Yeah.
Ak,

Jonni Boy (46:32):
AK maybe the way she wanted to, but ak

ZaneMan (46:35):
it's a very weird way I would say.
Now I'm rhyming.

Jonni Boy (46:39):
I know you're doing all kinds of rhyming in court.
Use She hawk as a name on thedating app and they will get the
name of the, dates to testify.
And she tells them about usingshe Hawk as the name.
The court finds in favor of Jen.
Walters.

ZaneMan (46:54):
Of course they do.
She's the protagonist.

Jonni Boy (46:55):
Yeah.
And she hawk and all theproducts of Titans.
She hawk to be recalled.

ZaneMan (47:00):
Pridex,

Jonni Boy (47:01):
what did I say?
You said pride Ducks.
Yeah.
All the products.
Mallory says she hawk deservesbetter than those men at the
bar.
Jim, buys Amelia drink and Jenremembers her clothes.
Luke made, she hawks somethingextra and Luke moves around in
his office and guess what?
It's daredevil's mask, but it'snew, yellow and golden.

ZaneMan (47:25):
Did you like it?

Jonni Boy (47:27):
That was all right.

ZaneMan (47:27):
I think I like the normal red mower.

Jonni Boy (47:29):
Yeah, it's, I think the red's a little bit better.

ZaneMan (47:32):
It is what it is.

Jonni Boy (47:33):
So episode six is entitled Just Gin.
Gin is a brides made in afriend's wedding, a stressful
event compounded by uniquely shehawk issues.

ZaneMan (47:43):
Yeah, I mean,

Jonni Boy (47:44):
Zane liked the wedding.

ZaneMan (47:45):
Oh, for sure.

Jonni Boy (47:46):
For reals

ZaneMan (47:48):
is not one of the most boring episodes in the show.

Jonni Boy (47:51):
Jen, box, she gets asking Jen to be a bridesmaid
for Lulu Jen is packing andNikki is, saying not to, bring a
Luke suit.
Nikki wants to see the supersuit at Lulu's wedding.
She hawk shows up in a Lukedress.
Lulu the bride, says she Hawk istaking the attention away from

(48:12):
her and Lulu does not want herto be hawky.

ZaneMan (48:15):
I think that's a fair thing to say because like it is
her day.

Jonni Boy (48:19):
Exactly.
She hawk shouldn't be lookingall amazing.

ZaneMan (48:22):
Although I, think that the girl could have said it
nicer

Jonni Boy (48:26):
probably.
Just Jen title card.
And then Lulu tells Jen she'llbe walking with Jonathan and the
bridesmaids say, Jonathan is thebest at GLK&H.
Mallory is talking, and Mr.
Immortal, it's a divorce case.
Mr.
Immortal kills himself insteadof, um, ending.
and basically Mallory and Nikkigive him a hard time and he

(48:48):
jumps out the window, fallingand crashing a security guard
car and gets up and walks away.

ZaneMan (48:55):
yeah, that's rough.

Jonni Boy (48:57):
Lulu's wedding.
Tatiana shows up and she'sdating a friend of the groom.
Lulu and Tatiana tried toconvince Jen she's not there to
fight.

ZaneMan (49:05):
Did you just say Tatiana again?

Jonni Boy (49:07):
Probably.

ZaneMan (49:07):
There's no way of doing that on purpose anymore.

Jonni Boy (49:09):
Uh, well, you know, maybe I am.
Just to see if you're stillpaying attention over there.

ZaneMan (49:14):
Yeah.
I'm trying to,

Jonni Boy (49:16):
you sound so excited about doing this.
You're gonna have, like, peoplejust listening all there's gonna
get like two listens on thisepisode.

ZaneMan (49:23):
I know

Jonni Boy (49:23):
you're so excited about this.

ZaneMan (49:24):
Well, I mean, it's just, it's not a great show.
It's kind of boring.

Jonni Boy (49:27):
Well, you know, we're going over it, so we have to go
over it for the peoples.
Josh introduces himself to Jen.
Lulu breaks it up after askingfor help, cleaning up at GLK&H,
nine clients against Mr.
Immortal.
One of the clients find outabout his pattern of killing
himself on the website.
Inia.

ZaneMan (49:47):
oh yeah.
That guy I completely figure outabout him.

Jonni Boy (49:50):
No, it's a website.

ZaneMan (49:51):
Oh.

Jonni Boy (49:52):
So you forgot about the website.

ZaneMan (49:53):
Yeah, I forgot about the website.
Him

Jonni Boy (49:55):
Lulu's wedding she was asked to iron the groomsman
shirts because the bride istelling her to do all the menial
stuff.
Now Jen is walking down withJonathan and he's a little dog
that looks like he's about readyto die.
DJ in ChatAble Hawk has gin,dancing, and drinking.

ZaneMan (50:14):
Yeah.

Jonni Boy (50:14):
In ChatAble, GLK&H, Nicki sorts out the
individually.
Who wants clients for Mr.
Immortal?
Molly gives Nicki props atLulu's wedding.
Josh talks to drunk gin drunk.
Uh, Josh thinks gin is prettygreat.
Gin gets sick outside andTitania punches gin.

(50:37):
Titania says it's no fun unlessyou're she hawk.
'Ched, sorry.
Dj.
And ChatAble Hawk says, weddingfight and plays electric slide
while Tatiana and she hawk fightat the wedding.

(50:57):
Titania trips and breaks herveneers while people videotape
her with their phone and sheleaves

ZaneMan (51:04):
with their Why Do you specify their, do you think
someone out there has a videocamera?

Jonni Boy (51:08):
They could.
It is 1995.

ZaneMan (51:12):
1995,

Jonni Boy (51:12):
yeah.
Right?

ZaneMan (51:14):
You think it's 1995?

Jonni Boy (51:16):
It's 2005, right?
Two.
GLK&H, GLK&H, Valerie and Nicki.
Look at the intelligentsiawebsite.
Nicki leaves Jim a message aboutintelligentsia and at an unknown
lab in the next phase of theplan, ready to go all clean.
We see a busted needle and astronger needle being cased up.

ZaneMan (51:40):
Cased up,

Jonni Boy (51:41):
yeah.
Ready to go.

ZaneMan (51:43):
So, uh, black p what do you think of this show so far?
I know you haven't watched it,but out of our descriptions, I
know you've been diligentlylistening.

P Lantern (51:51):
Oh, yeah, big time.
I, uh, love listening to youguys talk about this show.
Um, actually I've seen a totalof maybe 30 seconds on the
internet and it looks like oneof the worst shows I would ever
have the pleasure of ignoring.

Jonni Boy (52:07):
So, you know, the way we normally do this show is we
talk about the show and at thevery end we talk about if we
liked it or didn't like it, sowe can have people listen all
the way through the show.
That's normally how this works.

ZaneMan (52:19):
well, he didn't watch the show, so I'm trying to get
out of the descriptions thatwe've given him so far.

P Lantern (52:24):
Yeah, it sounds super dumb.

Jonni Boy (52:26):
Okay, well let's continue on.
So people will continue tolisten

ZaneMan (52:30):
hopefully.

Jonni Boy (52:31):
Episode seven, the retreat.
Jen visits, blansky's WellnessRetreat.
Meets new friends and gets intouch with her inner SheHulk,
Jen's apartment.
Jen's getting ready.
Checks, messages from Josh.
Goes out with Josh.
More messages, more dates withJosh until she sleeps with him.
And on Friday he ghost her.

ZaneMan (52:50):
Gross.

Jonni Boy (52:51):
I know.
Sunday she checks.
And a Emil Blanche's paroleofficer calls about a
malfunction alert on Blansky'sinhibitor.

ZaneMan (52:59):
Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Jonni Boy (53:00):
Chuck wants gin she hawk to meet him there.

ZaneMan (53:03):
I thought so.
The Hulk can't have relations,but this one can.

Jonni Boy (53:08):
I know.

ZaneMan (53:09):
That doesn't seem fair.

Jonni Boy (53:10):
It doesn't, but wait, it is Sunday.
Let's see.
Jen checks her cell phone thewhole time.
Driving up to the summerTwilights Emil's retreat.
Chuck, recalibrates a Emil'sinhibitor and immediately he's
out.

ZaneMan (53:25):
Yeah, he gone.

Jonni Boy (53:26):
I'm out a Emil Walks Jen out and brings, two beans
are fighting near Jen's car.
She hawk breaks it up.
and then we meet man Bull and lAlia.

ZaneMan (53:38):
Yeah,

Jonni Boy (53:39):
yeah.

ZaneMan (53:40):
Yep.
That's how it's pronounced.
I guess.

Jonni Boy (53:42):
Jen's car is wrecked so she can't leave.
Jen checks her phone.
No service at the retreat asEmil shows.
Jen around.
Jen, wanders around trying tofind wifi and comes across a
meal.
fan Bull l Porcupine andSaccharin.
group session wrecker walks inand he's one of the guys who
attacked Jen for her blood, inthat first couple episodes.

(54:05):
And he was in the ut she hawkand record joined the group and
Jen explains her guy problems.
Guy problems.

ZaneMan (54:15):
Yeah.
Well I'm assuming that therapywould probably help, especially
if you can now turn into theHulk.

Jonni Boy (54:22):
Yeah.
And that's what she gets at theretreat,

ZaneMan (54:24):
releasing some of that pressure.
Yeah.
I mean she has like a meal torelate to since he can also turn
into the Abomination.

Jonni Boy (54:32):
Exactly.
Yeah.
Group suggests Jen stop usingshe Hawk as a shield and egg her
on to delete Josh's number.
Jen spends time sweating it outin the year a tow truck shows up
and Jen says goodbye to thegroup and then they show three
days earlier we see Joshcopying, stealing Jen's phone

(54:54):
info.
They take a picture, of Jen andtext Huling.
Blood in the shot chemical andthumbs up emojis.
So they got the, they got theblood

ZaneMan (55:06):
chemical and thumbs up emoji.

Jonni Boy (55:08):
They got the blood.

ZaneMan (55:10):
They must have, I mean they must have, I mean they must
have, I mean

Jonni Boy (55:15):
that's true.

ZaneMan (55:16):
Yeah.
I remember when we were watchingthat episode, I was like, yeah,
that man's going for the blood.
And you're like, no, he's notZane.
He probably loves her.
And I was like, no man, he'sgoing for the blood.

Jonni Boy (55:27):
And that's what he did.

ZaneMan (55:28):
He went for the blood

Jonni Boy (55:29):
and that's probably why she didn't want her to be.
She hawk at the wedding episodeRibbit and Rip it.
She hawk represents leapfrog,who was injured due to a
malfunction in his costume, madesuper suit outside a store.
And the GLK&H law officers, twoguys are stealing TVs and
leapfrog appears as guard frog,uh, shouted as catch fray time

(55:55):
to Rip it and Rip it.

ZaneMan (55:57):
Yeah, I, I knew Frogmen before I watched this episode,
and I was surprised to see himin here.
I liked the suit.
I thought it was funny, but I,think the character himself when
he was normal could have beenbetter.

Jonni Boy (56:10):
Yeah, he was pretty funny on the show, he turns on
his boots and then, flames uphis suit and it catches on fire
and he gets third degree burnson his legs.
he wants to sue Luke Jacobson,who specializes in super suits.
She hawks explains her conflictof interest with suing Luke to
her boss.
He says they need to keep allthe people happy and willing to

(56:32):
sign a conflict waiver.
Her boss suggests she hawk cometo an agreement with Mr.
Jacobson, so filing is notnecessary.
She hawk's visits Luke to tellhim of the dysfunctional suit.
Luke said he does not make suitsthat malfunction.
Luke tells she Hawk no moreclothes for her and she hawk
says she will see him in court.

(56:52):
Yeah, he's really dis satisfiedwith that.

ZaneMan (56:54):
I think She-Hulk should have gotten more information.

Jonni Boy (56:58):
True.

ZaneMan (56:58):
Something's gonna go wrong,

Jonni Boy (57:00):
something squirrely

ZaneMan (57:01):
and I definitely don't know that cuz I've already
watched the show and knowexactly what's gonna happen at
the end of that episode.
But you know,

Jonni Boy (57:08):
in court Luke's counsel shows up late and it's
Matt Murdoch.
You find out that theirdialogue.
Slow voia cords have beenrepealed.
Matt asked what kind of fuel didhe use in his boosters Jett
fuel?
He says, it's not what Luke'sinstructions said.
The judge as Mrs.
A case Jen, asked Luke to takeher back as a client.

(57:29):
Luke says no.

ZaneMan (57:31):
Well yeah, of course.
You mean you helped sue him?

Jonni Boy (57:34):
He's mad now.
Yeah.

ZaneMan (57:35):
I mean, if someone sued me I wouldn't like be awesome.

Jonni Boy (57:39):
Yeah.
I'd be like, Hey, I know youjust sued me, but I'll still
make your suits.

ZaneMan (57:43):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that.

Jonni Boy (57:44):
Soup a suit.
Yeah.
Uh, soup suit.

ZaneMan (57:47):
We should have an episode on the Incredibles at
some point.

Jonni Boy (57:50):
Yeah, we should do that.
Legalese bar and grill Gin isdrinking.
another drink.
and then a appletini from Mattat the bar.
Matt asked to join Gin.
They discussed the case andAppletini was a good choice, by
the way, cuz it was a greendrink.

ZaneMan (58:04):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because it's an appletini andit's green.

Jonni Boy (58:07):
Yeah.
Matt asked to join Jen.
They discussed the case.
Matt says to, he took Luke onbecause he made a few suits.
Matt says, gin can use the lawand she hawk can.
when the law fails them, Mattgets a call and Todd texts Jen.
They're at a restaurant and shehawk meets Todd.

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There was a Waka war spear.
He's acquired for a milliondollars and Todd gets fresh and
she hawk leaves, leapfrog callsand is being attacked on his way
to the Lily pad, his famoussecret layer.
Jen goes to meet Leapfrog.
She Hawk is in front ofLeapfrog's car and he hits her

(58:53):
and we see someone fly off hiscar.
Who could it be?

ZaneMan (58:59):
I don't know.

Jonni Boy (59:00):
Well, if you got Matt Murdoch, who do you got?

ZaneMan (59:02):
Uh, um,

Jonni Boy (59:04):
Daredevil

ZaneMan (59:04):
Punisher,

P Lantern (59:05):
Spiderman.

ZaneMan (59:06):
Daredevil

Jonni Boy (59:07):
Daredevil in a new red and yellow suit.
Gold, red and

ZaneMan (59:13):
Iron man.
Oh yeah, tm.

Jonni Boy (59:15):
She Hawk and Daredevil fight.
While Leapfrog gets away.
She hawk takes, um, andbasically, you know, hits Matt
Leapfrog is kidnapped.
Luke, are you the gold devil?
Jen ass?
No, he says I'm Daredevil.
Yeah,

ZaneMan (59:32):
no, he's the devil of

Jonni Boy (59:35):
Hell's kitchen.

ZaneMan (59:35):
Hell's Kitchen.

Jonni Boy (59:36):
That's right.
At the lily pad, leapfrog hasLuke making him a new suit.
Jen and Daredevil debate.
Goons and henchman.
Henchman believe in causes goonsare just for the paycheck.

ZaneMan (59:50):
True.
That's absolutely true.
I'm a Gothan.

Jonni Boy (59:54):
Daredevil says 25 are goons are in the building.
Seven below us, eight in front,nine in the hallway.

ZaneMan (01:00:00):
Imagine having to like make your ears figure out the
difference between them.

Jonni Boy (01:00:05):
Well, it's another sense that come up too, I guess.

ZaneMan (01:00:07):
Well, I mean, he is probably smelling the bo of like
all of'em since they'rehenchman.

Jonni Boy (01:00:14):
Daredevil has another cool hallway scene and black
light Leapfrog calls his goonstadpoles.
Five guys come towards Daredeviland she hawk drops from the
ceiling on top of them.
She hawks.
They're dead.
Smasher.

ZaneMan (01:00:28):
Well, they're dead.
So,

Jonni Boy (01:00:30):
Leapfrog has video games of Frogger, signal, and
more goons'Ched Hawk faces Lukeand talks to leapfrog while
doing kicks.
Everyone else's butts.
Leapfrog yells Ribbit and Rip Itand jumps out a window hurting
himself.

ZaneMan (01:00:46):
Yeah.

Jonni Boy (01:00:47):
Police and paramedics show up and, remove an injured
leapfrog.
Luke forgives she hawk.
She hawk says, will you make mygala dress?
Luke says, yes, Jen andDaredevil hang out.
the lily pad sign debate theirfighting styles.
Daredevil says he will take herout.
Jen says, to skip that.

(01:01:10):
And Daredevil and Jen make outand have sex.

ZaneMan (01:01:12):
Oh, ew.
Again,

Jonni Boy (01:01:14):
Daredevil is shown doing the walk of shame, holding
his shoes like over his.

ZaneMan (01:01:19):
I like that.
I like scene.

Jonni Boy (01:01:20):
That was pretty cool.

ZaneMan (01:01:21):
That's a funny scene.

Jonni Boy (01:01:22):
Jen is wondering why we are still here.
Nikki, shows up and gets Jenready for the gala.
Jen said it's the big twist.
Another hawk is red.
Nikki is makeup Wolverine withher brushes

ZaneMan (01:01:36):
Wolverine.

Jonni Boy (01:01:38):
She hawk shows up at the gala with Nikki and meets
mom and dad, female lawyer, theyear Jen and others.
Aline takes over the stagescreens truth by intelligentsia
and shows her cell phone dataretrieved by Josh and it shows a
video of sex with Josh.
She hawk smashes the TV screen,sees men and mask and heads

(01:02:00):
outside in anger, and isarrested by the DO DC

ZaneMan (01:02:05):
the Department of

Jonni Boy (01:02:08):
Damage Control.

ZaneMan (01:02:09):
Darn.

Jonni Boy (01:02:10):
Damage control.

P Lantern (01:02:11):
Country folk.

ZaneMan (01:02:12):
Country folk.
Whoa.

Jonni Boy (01:02:13):
Damage control.
Yo.
Yes.
The same ones that were on Ms.
Marvel.
And the same ones that were onThe

ZaneMan (01:02:22):
Homecoming.

Jonni Boy (01:02:23):
No way home.

ZaneMan (01:02:25):
What

Jonni Boy (01:02:26):
It was No Way Home.

P Lantern (01:02:27):
No, it was Homecoming.

ZaneMan (01:02:28):
It was Homecoming.

Jonni Boy (01:02:29):
Homecoming was the first one.

ZaneMan (01:02:30):
Yeah, the one with vulture.

Jonni Boy (01:02:32):
the second one was far from home.

ZaneMan (01:02:34):
Yeah.
The one with

Jonni Boy (01:02:35):
the third one was No Way Home Talking.

ZaneMan (01:02:37):
What are you talking about?

Jonni Boy (01:02:38):
So D O D C was in No Way Home.

ZaneMan (01:02:41):
What?

Jonni Boy (01:02:41):
Yes.

P Lantern (01:02:42):
No, you're still,

Jonni Boy (01:02:44):
yes.

ZaneMan (01:02:45):
Its in Homecoming

Jonni Boy (01:02:46):
episode nine.
Wait, whose show is this?
Jen finds herself in troublewith the law and struggles to
pick up the pieces of her life.
1970s Old Hawk TV series openingwith Jen instead of Bruce the
Savage.
She hawk.
D o D facility.
Jen is locked in a similar cagethat Abomination was in.

(01:03:07):
Mallory, Nicki Pug come in tovisit.
Jen asked if they got in touchwith Bruce.
Mallory tells Jen she was out ofcontrol.
Hulk that is witness what shesaw.
They have a plea, no charge ifshe wears an inhibitor like
Abomination.
Jen leaves D O D C and mom anddad greet her outside at GLK&H.

(01:03:28):
Jen pack's upper desk.
Nikki and Pug helper Jen'sapartment.
Jen watches news about the Galengate and she hawk and reporters
are outside of Jen house.
Jen's house.

ZaneMan (01:03:39):
Jen house.

P Lantern (01:03:39):
Jen house.

Jonni Boy (01:03:40):
Jen house,

ZaneMan (01:03:41):
Jen house,

Jonni Boy (01:03:42):
parents' house.
Dinner with, Jen's parents.
Jen leaves her empty apartmentand moves back in with her dad,
in her old room.
Nikki and Jen go over.
A board with intelligentinformation on it and Jen texts.
Email

ZaneMan (01:03:57):
a Emil.

Jonni Boy (01:03:58):
Yes, Blonsky GLK&H.
Nikki uploads a funny collegevideo to intelligentsia website
and gets a private message fromHuling private event tonight.
You should come.
Nikki.
Liz Pugs help.
wrecker meets, her that's Jen ata Emil's retreat and she reads
Am Emil's book, deep Haiku Nikkiand Pug arrive at the Huling

(01:04:24):
event.
Guys talking about why this is ashe Hawk or Lady Thor.
Nikki tells pug to talk to them.
Hug sees Todd's Phillips.
He says, welcome bro.
Todd says, she, better orstronger than the regular Hulk
Todd created Intelligentsia.
He's the Hawk King.

(01:04:45):
I know Jen wants to thank EmilWrecker.
Sid.
He's down at the lodge.
At some private event, Toddintroduces intelligentsia
members to a guest speakerAbomination.
A

ZaneMan (01:04:58):
Emil Blonsky.

Jonni Boy (01:05:00):
Abomination enters

ZaneMan (01:05:01):
breaking his, his

Jonni Boy (01:05:03):
parole.

ZaneMan (01:05:04):
Parole.
How dare he

Jonni Boy (01:05:05):
Jen Enters, sees Abomination, and he changes to a
Emil.
Todd says, Jen Walters, askabout the Abomination.
A Emil says he does speakingengagements.
Jen is upset.
Nicki comes in, pug tells, Jen,it's intelligentsia, and Todd is
hawking.
Todd tells Jen he's hired Josh,Jen's boyfriend, to steal her

(01:05:25):
blood.
Todd injects her blood and turnsinto a halk.
Jen breaks the fourth wall.
I know all this Todd Titaniabreaks in.
Todd's bro Hawk attacks GinAbomination.
Puts her up on his shoulders,Hawk breaks in Hawk, in
Abomination fight.
Jen says None of these, youknow, storylines make any sense.

(01:05:47):
And the episode goes to theDisney home screen.
Jen breaks through the She Hawkdescription box to the Marvel
assembled box.
She Hawk is on the Disney lotand goes to the She Hawk
production studios and thewriter's room, she Hawk says
it's a stupid finale, and thewriters are certainly thinking
that it, um, how did thishappen?

(01:06:08):
In a superhero story, Jen says,why don't we just do things our
own way?
The head writer says, it's thestory Kevin wants.

ZaneMan (01:06:19):
We all know who kevin is.

Jonni Boy (01:06:20):
she Hawk wants to talk to Kevin.
They all.
No one talks to Kevin She Hawk,goes to the receptionist and he
gets her to sign, a form like weall have to sign when you sign
up for any app on Apple.
And she hawk fights with foursecurity guards.
She Hawk goes into the screeningroom and meets K dot e Dov i n

(01:06:47):
an AI brain known as KnowledgeEnhanced Visual
Interconnectivity Nexus.

ZaneMan (01:06:53):
Oh, Kevin, it's Kevin.

Jonni Boy (01:06:55):
And it's funny that they use Nexus because of the
Loki show.

ZaneMan (01:06:59):
Yeah, for sure.

Jonni Boy (01:07:00):
For reals.
Kevin wants she hawk totransform back because of the
budget.
The gin.
Kevin makes the decision withthe most advanced entertainment
algorithm in the world andproduces near Perfect products.

ZaneMan (01:07:15):
Sure.

Jonni Boy (01:07:16):
Kevin leaves debate, up to the internet like what
we're doing today.
Gin tells Kevin she's unhappywith her story.
Kevin says she does not get tochoose.
It's my show.
No, it's Kevin's show

ZaneMan (01:07:29):
Facts.

Jonni Boy (01:07:30):
Jen wants to give her a, closing argument.
Kevin, ask an ending that Jenproposes.
No.
Todd gets to Hulk powers no Hulkand hold Abomination
accountable.
Ask about X-men.
Jen cannot access Kevin againfor season two.
Jen says she smashes the fourthwalls and bad endings and

(01:07:52):
somehow Mac murder.
Uh, and at the ending, the newending, Jen says she'll see Todd
in court.
He gets arrested.
Daredevil shows up.
Abomination a Emil.
It's 10 years.
And then we're at mom and dad'shouse, Chet and Matt, mom, dad,
auntie, and Uncle Hawk shows upand he says he's back from

(01:08:14):
Sakara and he introduces his sonScar.
She hawk was cleared after alawsuit and against Todd in
Intelligentsia.
If you attack arm or harassinnocent people, I'm coming for
you.
Um, she says to reporter in acourtroom and he says, or as a
superhero, and she says both.

(01:08:36):
And then there's an after creditscene.

ZaneMan (01:08:38):
Credit.

Jonni Boy (01:08:39):
Credit

ZaneMan (01:08:40):
after credit

Jonni Boy (01:08:40):
after credit.

ZaneMan (01:08:41):
Who's credit

Jonni Boy (01:08:42):
after credit scene.
Wonger shows up.

ZaneMan (01:08:47):
Wons

Jonni Boy (01:08:47):
to get a meal to com.
And that's she Hawk.

ZaneMan (01:08:52):
Yay.

P Lantern (01:08:53):
Woo.

Jonni Boy (01:08:54):
Yes.
So I thought, you know, I likeShe Hawk.

ZaneMan (01:08:58):
Yeah.
Did you

Jonni Boy (01:08:59):
Yeah.
You didn't like it?

ZaneMan (01:09:01):
I think I liked Hulk's son.

P Lantern (01:09:04):
I liked when you guys stopped talking about it.

ZaneMan (01:09:08):
That was my,

Jonni Boy (01:09:08):
that's the best part.

P Lantern (01:09:09):
Yeah, that was the best part.

Jonni Boy (01:09:11):
Best part is when we stopped talking about it.
So I guess out of all the shows,where would you put this show
Dead Last?

ZaneMan (01:09:18):
Out of all the shows where I put this show?
Yeah.
Let's see.
Name all the shows.
There was, Scarlet WitchEnvision and there was Low Carry
Loki.
and then they had, captainAmerican, the Winter Soldier.
That was a great one.
I was pretty goed I'm, I mean

P Lantern (01:09:33):
there was that one with the Bengal Tiger.

ZaneMan (01:09:36):
Talking about

P Lantern (01:09:37):
like the Bengal thing,

ZaneMan (01:09:39):
the bengals.

Jonni Boy (01:09:40):
He's talking about Miss Marvel.

P Lantern (01:09:42):
Yeah.

ZaneMan (01:09:43):
Oh, miss Marvel, of course.

P Lantern (01:09:45):
Moon Night.

ZaneMan (01:09:46):
Moon night.
Can't forget that one.
Yeah, I think

P Lantern (01:09:49):
Imwe won.

Jonni Boy (01:09:50):
All right.
So Wanda, Wanda vision, theFalcon and the Winter Soldier.
Loki.
What if Hawkeye Moon Night, Ms.
Marvel, she Hawk werewolf bynight.
The Guardians, the GalaxyHoliday special.
We haven't done those two, so wehave to only figure out, um,
Wanda Vision, the Falcon and theWinter Soldier.
Loki.
What if Hawkeye Moon Night, Ms.

(01:10:10):
Marvel and she hawk.

ZaneMan (01:10:11):
Okay.
so of course gotta start offwith the last, this show Dead
Last very by a lot.
There's a big margin there.
Let me think.
Miss

P Lantern (01:10:23):
Marvel probably second last.

ZaneMan (01:10:25):
I was thinking that, but yeah.
Okay.
I'm gonna put miss Marvel.
second last, and then I thinkI'm gonna do, I think I'm gonna
do, Wanda Vision and then insecond place I'm gonna put
Falcon in the Winter Soldier.
And at the top I'm gonna putLoki.
That's what I think.

P Lantern (01:10:45):
What about, what if,

ZaneMan (01:10:46):
what if, oh, what if was Goed?
Actually,

P Lantern (01:10:48):
what about Moon night?

ZaneMan (01:10:49):
Moon night?
I forgot about do Moon Night.
I think I put Moon night andsecond actually then

P Lantern (01:10:52):
Yeah, I figured.

ZaneMan (01:10:53):
And then probably what if above, Falcon and Winter
Soldier.
So that one's second and third.

P Lantern (01:10:59):
Yeah.
And then you still have,

ZaneMan (01:11:02):
I think I said

P Lantern (01:11:02):
Loki for first.

ZaneMan (01:11:03):
Yeah.
Loki's still first.
I, I really liked Loki.

P Lantern (01:11:06):
That was a good show.

ZaneMan (01:11:07):
I'm excited for the second season.

Jonni Boy (01:11:08):
Yeah, so I liked Loki too.
Um, so I'd say Loki's probablyfirst.
then what if, and then Hawkeyeand then probably Juan Division
Falcon, the Winter Soldier, moonNight Hawkeye and Ms.
Marvel.
And she Hawk,

ZaneMan (01:11:23):
yeah.
Hawkeye was All right.
I'll put that one in like fourthor something.
under Juan division, whateverthat was.
What about you?
Black Pee Pee Lantern.

P Lantern (01:11:32):
Okay.

ZaneMan (01:11:33):
out of all the shows you watched, how would you rate
them?

P Lantern (01:11:36):
Ooh, out of all the ones I've watched, I think.

ZaneMan (01:11:40):
Yeah.
I thought that'd be your list.
That honestly, exactly what Ithought.

P Lantern (01:11:44):
Yeah,

Jonni Boy (01:11:44):
exactly what I thought too.

ZaneMan (01:11:46):
Yeah.

P Lantern (01:11:46):
You weren't even looking

Jonni Boy (01:11:48):
Yeah, that's what I thought too.

ZaneMan (01:11:49):
The thing is, anyone who is just listening won't know
what you just did either.

P Lantern (01:11:52):
Yeah.
It's okay.
Makes sense.

Jonni Boy (01:11:54):
It's all good.
All right.
Are we ready to get into thegame?

ZaneMan (01:11:58):
We ready for the past 30 minutes?

Jonni Boy (01:12:00):
Oh yeah, baby.
Here we go.

ZaneMan (01:12:09):
Oh, hey, this is my section.

P Lantern (01:12:11):
Oh yeah, baby.

Jonni Boy (01:12:14):
Oh yeah.

P Lantern (01:12:18):
Alright.

ZaneMan (01:12:19):
Anyway,

P Lantern (01:12:19):
it's over.
Now

Jonni Boy (01:12:20):
I'll turn it over to you two guys.

ZaneMan (01:12:22):
Thanks dog.
All right.
So Gotham Knights.

P Lantern (01:12:27):
Yeah.
Gotham knights.

ZaneMan (01:12:29):
So first of all, just wanna say, I know we're supposed
to say it last, but go to thegame.
Go to the game.
Would play it again.

P Lantern (01:12:35):
Yeah.
Also, spoilers.
Spoilers.
Big spoilers.

ZaneMan (01:12:38):
We're gonna talk about the entire game.

P Lantern (01:12:40):
Every detail.

ZaneMan (01:12:41):
Every detail.

P Lantern (01:12:42):
Every single detail.

ZaneMan (01:12:43):
I'm gonna explain every pixel that I saw.

P Lantern (01:12:46):
Yeah.
I'm gonna explain every pixel.
I didn't see.

ZaneMan (01:12:49):
He is a very bad, he had a very be it.
It would be a lot better now.
Yeah.
so we're gonna talk about thegame that we played.
When we played it together andthen our individual

P Lantern (01:13:00):
experiences,

ZaneMan (01:13:01):
experiences playing different characters.
Because in this game you had thechoice between four characters.
Jason, Todd, bat Girl, nightWing,

P Lantern (01:13:09):
Jason Todd, Barbara Gordon, Dick Grayson, and

ZaneMan (01:13:14):
I always forget him.
it's

P Lantern (01:13:16):
Richard drake.
Tim Drake.
Tim drake.

ZaneMan (01:13:23):
Yeah.
Tim Drake.
So that's the Robin Bat Girl,red Hood and Night Wing.
Yeah.
So

Jonni Boy (01:13:28):
Oh, Batman.
Even as a zombie.

ZaneMan (01:13:30):
No, he is dead.
We didn't get into that yet.

P Lantern (01:13:32):
Come on,

Jonni Boy (01:13:33):
We already told him.
There's spoilers.

P Lantern (01:13:36):
Yeah, but we hadn't gotten to it yet.

ZaneMan (01:13:38):
so you get the choice between those four characters.
This, the information we hadgoing.

P Lantern (01:13:42):
Yeah.

ZaneMan (01:13:43):
and it's a two-person co-op, even though there's four
characters.
Yeah.
It doesn't make sense to eitherof us, but who cares.
so beginning of the game you geta little scene of Batman and
he's just like, so I'm dead.

P Lantern (01:13:55):
Yeah.
R i p this guy.

ZaneMan (01:13:58):
Yeah, it's me.
I'm dead.
Kind of if you think about it.
and then it cuts to a scene ofhim fighting Raj Al in the bat
cave.

P Lantern (01:14:07):
It's Ray SheHulk.

ZaneMan (01:14:09):
Raul.

P Lantern (01:14:09):
It's Ray SheHulk.

ZaneMan (01:14:10):
Ray SheHulk.

P Lantern (01:14:12):
There you go.

ZaneMan (01:14:12):
And the bat cave.
And then he absolutely murdershim.

P Lantern (01:14:16):
Absolutely merks him.
But they both died cuz Batman'slike,

ZaneMan (01:14:21):
Yeah, he blows at the bat cave.
And, and so like, kind of ruinsit for the other guys.
Oh God.
and then, the four of them getthere all at the same time.
Cuz I guess they were out tolunch or something

P Lantern (01:14:32):
and they were like,

ZaneMan (01:14:33):
oh shoot.
And then, you know, you see themrun over and they're like, oh
guys, he's dead, I think.

P Lantern (01:14:38):
And then Alfred comes outta nowhere as like, ah, guys,

ZaneMan (01:14:44):
for those of you, for audio listeners, he just held up
an L with his fingers.
Oh yeah.
So then they go to a funeral,they're all listening to like,
them speak and they're like,man, it's boring out here.

P Lantern (01:14:55):
Well, no, they don't go to a funeral.

ZaneMan (01:14:57):
They, they go to the funeral,

P Lantern (01:14:58):
they go to like the first funeral without their
costumes on.
And then they all like surroundhis grave later with their
costumes on.
And that's where you choose yourcharacter.

ZaneMan (01:15:06):
And then Yeah, as they're talking, they're all
just like, you don't even listento what they say.
Cause you're like, let me readabout my character, about to
choose,

P Lantern (01:15:12):
let me see what.

ZaneMan (01:15:15):
I don't remember exactly what they describe it
as, but when I was choosing I

P Lantern (01:15:18):
Lame.

ZaneMan (01:15:19):
Yeah, lame.
That was Bat girl.

P Lantern (01:15:21):
Um, yeah.
Night Wing was acrobatic andlike something ranged and then
you had bat girl who wasintelligent and like good at
hacking stuff.

ZaneMan (01:15:31):
Yeah.
She was a good hacker.

P Lantern (01:15:32):
And then Robin was stealthy.

ZaneMan (01:15:34):
Tim Drake was master of stealth.
He was good with, not ABO staff,but Was it ABO staff?
Yeah, it was, it was ABO staff.
And then, um, and then it saidthat he was also, oh, he was
also really smart.
Batman said that he was probablysmarter than him.

P Lantern (01:15:50):
Yeah.
And then, Jason Tar was like,this guy has

ZaneMan (01:15:53):
guns.
Yeah.
Now it's all, it's said.
And so he chose Red Hood cuzhe's always choosing that kind
of character.
And I chose Tim Drake, like he'salways

P Lantern (01:16:02):
choosing that kind of character, you know?
It's

ZaneMan (01:16:04):
true.
That's true.
Um, you had to play the firstmission and then go back to the,
you had to go somewhere to startto be co-op.
So this is gonna be our, we hadto the same mission, but
separately.

P Lantern (01:16:15):
Separately first.
At first we did it separately

ZaneMan (01:16:17):
and everyone knows if you played video games before,
this is the tutorial missionwhere they teach you everything.
So you walk into a building,they're talking in your ear,
they're like, there's gotta besome clues here.

P Lantern (01:16:27):
There's gotta be some clues around your petman.

ZaneMan (01:16:30):
And then if, when I was playing his Tim Drake, he's, he
said something like, jumpingjellyfish or something.
I was like, that's a goodreference.

P Lantern (01:16:37):
Yeah.
And then, you know, jump in Josafan.
And then, um, Jason Tyler waslike, yeah, of course there is.
And then,

ZaneMan (01:16:45):
wow, that was loud.
Sorry.
Audio listeners.
so you go through the missionand you're, you're investigating
this guy that had died?
Yeah.

P Lantern (01:16:54):
Um,

ZaneMan (01:16:55):
some scientist, some scientists, I don't think either
of us really remember thismission very well.

P Lantern (01:16:58):
I remember it pretty well.
I

ZaneMan (01:17:00):
then tell him what happened.

P Lantern (01:17:01):
So you're um, obviously it's a tutorial
mission.
So you're learning the controls.
It shows you how to find clues.
You follow the clues.
It's like a trail.
And then you go down and thenyou go to a main area and it's
just like this big area, thiscourtyard with a bunch of bad
guys and you gotta like take'emdown and it tells you the
controls.
And then you go inside where thehostages are and you let'em out

(01:17:24):
and then you run cuz the policeare there.
and you go down to the, policestation, which is the next part
of the mission.
And you go in and you get moreclues and you sneak into the
scientists like the morgue wherethe scientist is being held.
Oh, right.
And then further into themorgue, there's this place where

(01:17:47):
the scientists worked.
And it was, there was like clueand you had to figure out a key
to you pick up, you pick up akey card and it's just like a
secret entrance.
And then you go down to thebasement bunker where he is got
this creatures and all thatstuff.

ZaneMan (01:17:59):
Yeah.
And, and then you get to thefurnace room where they burn all
the bodies and um, Shaw, hisdead body's there, and nearly.
And then you see someonestanding over and you're like,
oh.
The legal assassin, they'regonna try to resurrect him, but
then you see that they stab andthey're like, nah, you're,
that's a good whatever.
While we were in this mission,we were still playing separately

(01:18:21):
cuz we couldn't play togetheryet.
and something happened in thissection where that Black p
talked about for the rest of thegame

P Lantern (01:18:28):
because, okay, so Jason Todd, it doesn't say as
many like dialogue lines as TimDrake or another person would,
and he isn't his witty.
he's kinda like me, me thewhole, like the whole game.

ZaneMan (01:18:41):
Yeah.
Like during this section, allTim Drake was doing was he kept
acting, asking questions to the.
By the way, it's Tali al.
We didn't mention that yet, butit was Tali Al Go and he just
keeps asking like, why and whywould you do this or whatever.
But you know, red hood,

P Lantern (01:18:57):
he was like those damn ninjas as soon as he walks
in.
And that was like, that was allwe said.
He was like those damn ninjas.
And that was it.

ZaneMan (01:19:07):
And he just talked about that for the rest of the
game

P Lantern (01:19:10):
because Why did he say it like that, bro?

ZaneMan (01:19:14):
yeah.
So after that you have to dodgeall the cops and then you get to
leave and go back to the bellfree, which is

P Lantern (01:19:22):
the watch tower,

ZaneMan (01:19:23):
which if not the watch tower, that's something
completely different if you callit.

P Lantern (01:19:27):
Nah, it's the watch tower.

ZaneMan (01:19:28):
The watch tower is a satellite in space.
Not technically a satellite.

P Lantern (01:19:32):
No, it's the watch tower for the Justice League.

ZaneMan (01:19:35):
The bell?
No it's not.
The bell free is a little clocktower.
It's not

P Lantern (01:19:40):
really little.
It's like that biggest building.

ZaneMan (01:19:43):
It's the biggest building in the game except for
Wayne Tower, I think.
Yeah.
and that's where you, that'slike your back cave of the game
and you can see all four of thesuits in there and you can
change your character in there.
And that's where, and then youcan finally play co-op and they
have like a little cut scenethere and it's just like, man,
we gotta do something

P Lantern (01:20:02):
Oh yeah, we got stuffed to do.

ZaneMan (01:20:04):
Do you remember what they say?

P Lantern (01:20:06):
No shot

ZaneMan (01:20:07):
Yeah.
We don't remember the story verywell.

P Lantern (01:20:10):
Um, cuz it was just for me, I was unable to really
follow with the story cuz a lotof my scenes were really
glitchy.

ZaneMan (01:20:19):
A horrible memory.

P Lantern (01:20:21):
Yeah.
This guy can't remember his ownname.
yeah, his name's Richard by theway.
Yeah.
but in the belfry there was alot of cut scenes that had to do
with like certain aspects of thebelfry and like memories and
they all got their own powersand blah, blah, blah.

ZaneMan (01:20:38):
Yeah.
So they were, everyone had theirown cut, you know, we're gonna
talk about that in a minute.
But the main story was that theywanted to find Talia Al because
they thought she had a plan andthey didn't want the league of
assassins to be here and, youknow, all of that stuff.
We're not gonna tell the storyof this game very well, but we
do really recommend that youplay it.

P Lantern (01:20:55):
It's really good game.

ZaneMan (01:20:56):
It's a good game, especially if you have someone
to play with.
It's a couple

P Lantern (01:20:59):
hours, like a good few hours of campaign ignoring
all the side missions.
It's a good few hours ofcampaign to do with a friend and
we didn't even like, fully gothrough like the extra at the
end.

ZaneMan (01:21:13):
So every character has the main story.
That they can go through.
But every character has theirown little cut scenes that they
can watch as well.
Right.
And I remember the first cutscene I had, let's see, it was
all right.
Well the first cut scene I hadwas when you get your, your
special ability that eachcharacter has and he looks at

(01:21:36):
the memorial that they had up inthe bell free for Batman, and
he's like tapping on his littletablet and he's just like, I
want, he sees somethingreflecting.
He's just like, I wonder if Icould use the watch.
Tells teleportation to do shortjumps across spans.
And so these are usually calledtheir knighthood abilities and
each character's a differentone.

(01:21:57):
And I chose Tim Drake mostly cuzhe had this ability.
he can tell port short distancesand it's really good ability.
right.
So you can take it over with redHood now.

P Lantern (01:22:07):
So Red hood's cut scene, he was like, Oh, that
whole thing.
It's like glowing.
He was at the Batman memorialand he went up and touched the
mask and then he like had aepileptic shock where he was
like, oh God, I'm having aseizure.
And he was like, whoa, huh, I'mmagical.
Uh, cuz he died and came back inthe Lazarus pit, which had

(01:22:29):
something to do with Grace Hallgo.
And then he got, you know,special powers, which allowed
him to jump on air.
That was it.
That's his special ability.
It's nothing cool liketeleporting.
He's just bouncing.

ZaneMan (01:22:42):
Yeah.
That's how he moves around thecity.
So you would think he'd beslower, but mine's a lot cooler
even though

P Lantern (01:22:48):
he is a lot cooler.
But I'm flying,

ZaneMan (01:22:51):
playing together and using these night abilities.
It's super sick to see eachperson going around, and doing
these things.
so cut scenes.
Yeah, cut scenes.
Um, go around the city and sincehe can teleport, I always wanted
to see what it was like on hisscreening, cuz I would just
disappear and then reappearsomeone else.
Whereas his was just a basicjump that he could just

(01:23:12):
continuously do.

P Lantern (01:23:13):
Yeah.
It looked the same, what myscreens did on his screen, but
on his screen, his whole like,name tag and everything
disappeared.
He would like flip in and thenblip out and blip in and blip
out, which was super sweet tosee.

ZaneMan (01:23:24):
And you could unlock an ability where you could, um,
stealth attack people whencoming out of it.
And so he would just see meappear, take someone out, and
then disappear again, which Ialways thought would look super
sick, but I never got to witnessit from his side.

P Lantern (01:23:38):
Yeah.
there were a lot of differentmissions that had to do with a
lot of the, old Batman villainslike Mr.
Freeze and the Penguin.
Yeah.
In the league of, uh, owls and,the League of the ninjas.

ZaneMan (01:23:49):
So anyway, you basically, find out, you see
this clue where it's just like,man, this must be like the court
of vowels and Yeah.
You find out that Batman wasinvestigating them.
Mm-hmm.
And so

P Lantern (01:24:00):
before he died,

ZaneMan (01:24:02):
you break into one of their layers and you, you see
that, you know the, what is it?
His uncle Batman's uncle.

P Lantern (01:24:07):
Yeah, his uncle.

ZaneMan (01:24:09):
Oh, sorry.
For anyone who doesn't knowBatman is Bruce Wayne.
I'm sorry, we said spoilers.
We said spoiler.
I'm so sorry.
and so Bruce Wayne's uncle,forget his name.
You know his name?

P Lantern (01:24:23):
he's the mayor.

ZaneMan (01:24:24):
Yeah, the mayor, whatever his name is.

P Lantern (01:24:26):
No, he, his wife is the mayor.
He's he's the mayor's wife.
Yeah.
He's the mayor's wife.

ZaneMan (01:24:34):
Yeah.
So, You find out that it's himand then, you know, the League
of Shadows.
We're skipping a lot, by theway.
Yeah.
Please play the game.
It's very good.
the Court of Owls and the Leagueof Assassins, they, they start a
fight yet to get out of there.
and then you realize like, Hey,the Court of owls, they're
really not the main bad guyshere.

(01:24:55):
Yeah.
It's the League of Assassins.

P Lantern (01:24:59):
The League of Shadows,

ZaneMan (01:25:00):
league of Shadows and assassins and shadows

P Lantern (01:25:03):
and ninjas.

ZaneMan (01:25:04):
So don't know what the next stuff

P Lantern (01:25:07):
You don't remember.
No.
Yeah, I know.
so they were ding it out andthen, you know, because the,
court of owls is such a bigthing.
They like control all of Gothamand those two like superpowers
were fighting.
and in order to take overGotham, which was.
Talia UL's plan, which was hersecret motive to helping them

(01:25:29):
out, get rid of the court ofours, um, was to revive Batman,
bring him back to life andcontrol him like a puppet, to
bring about a new rule of Gothamwith, Talia Ul in the League of
Shadows.
it was a big thing.
It was a big fight.
You had to fight Batman.

(01:25:50):
You had to fight T goul at thesame time,

ZaneMan (01:25:52):
and we were playing as, you know, as we were saying, we
were playing together andfighting Batman.
You'd have to do these littleparts where it's like, wake up.
You'd have to wake, wake up, saysomething to him.
and, you know, there would bethis nice little thing where I
would go up to him like, youcouldn't see all three by your,
unless you're playing byyourself.
But like, I think he, I did itone, and then he did one, and
then he pressed the third one,but it made me go on the cut

(01:26:14):
scene.
So like the first one, hebasically said something, it was
the same sentiment as like, man,you're my best son.
I love you so much.
And then he did it.
And what did he say?

P Lantern (01:26:26):
He was just like, oh, hey, you're, you're okay.

ZaneMan (01:26:33):
Yeah.
it was like not as sentimentalat all.
And the third one was just like,come on, dad.

P Lantern (01:26:39):
And Jason was just standing in the background, like

ZaneMan (01:26:41):
he was just standing around.
Um, and then the last cut scenewas, Batman gain full control of
himself.
Again, getting into the bat wingcuz it was really close to,

P Lantern (01:26:52):
because the talons were flooding in, which was a
core, ours like, Like Goum, likecreature.

ZaneMan (01:26:58):
Yeah.
And so he got in the bat wingand you know, he said it to
self-destruct and he recordedlast video again.
He was just like, man, guys, Ilove you, but I hate red hood.
Yeah, that guy.
and so he flew it into like allthe League of Shadows and killed
them all.
well like all the good guys gotout

P Lantern (01:27:18):
and then Batman died second time.
Second time.
Also a key aspect of this game,you know, since that was the
very end of the story and thenlike everything was just like,
oh yeah, whatever.
It's the end of everything.
Everything's back to normal.
It was very stealth heavy game.
Oh, very stealth heavy,

ZaneMan (01:27:37):
right?
Yeah.
You could stealth every singlemission self heavy if you wanted
to.
And I could.
I would be able to do it easilycuz I could jump, teleport, get
to somewhere easy, take someoneout and you know, I would say,
yo, please, this next mission,stealth it.
Come on.
It's so easy.

P Lantern (01:27:53):
Be quiet.
And there in each mission, likesubmission, there was a, a side
part of that mission where youhad to get little objectives and
a lot of them had to do withbeing stealthy and not getting
detected.
So me, Jason, tired, the guywith guns that are not stealthy.
I would try to take someone downand just,

ZaneMan (01:28:12):
so the two things that would happen, he would either
run in, get detected immediatelyand start killing everyone while
I was, I still stealth everyonecuz they didn't know I was there
or he stealth attacked oneperson either messed it up by
like, not by the game, notregistering, press the right
button or just killing someonein the middle of the room, and
everyone's seeing him.

P Lantern (01:28:33):
We would need like one more take down.
I would just be like, okay.

ZaneMan (01:28:38):
I just couldn't understand.
I was able to do it so easily.

P Lantern (01:28:42):
Yeah.
I was really like, I had a lotof strong moves but I was not
quiet.

ZaneMan (01:28:48):
Yeah.

Jonni Boy (01:28:49):
You guys, had me until Batman died again.

P Lantern (01:28:54):
So they brought him back.
You know how Jason Todd died?

ZaneMan (01:28:56):
The Lazarus pit?

P Lantern (01:28:57):
Yeah.
They brought him back with theLazarus pit, which was tied into
the court of owls and all thatstuff.
the Lazarus pit was wrapped upin that, and then they brought
him back from there, and then hegot killed again.

Jonni Boy (01:29:09):
Oh, okay.
Well, you guys had me untilBatman died again.
I was like, I wonder if he'll beback for a sequel.

ZaneMan (01:29:15):
He sacrificed himself again.
Which, destroyed the Lazaruspits that they had down there.
Yeah, because they wereflammable, I guess.
I don't know.
It's a good story.
It's a good game.
I think you should play it,especially if you have a friend
around.

P Lantern (01:29:30):
And if you don't have a friend like this guy, find
somebody, anybody off thestreet, pick'em up,

ZaneMan (01:29:36):
homeless man, buy him the game, buy him a PS five to
play it on.
And then like, ethernet cable.

P Lantern (01:29:41):
Ethernet cable.
H D M I court sue somebody, getthe H D M I court.
Exactly.
And then you got two people toplay it with.
It's a much better game to playwith Doso.
but yeah, I would very highlyrecommend this game.
I would rate it among one of thebest admin games.

ZaneMan (01:30:01):
Yeah.
I, think I really liked the oldAUM games.
Yeah.
And we have talked about it abit, but I think I liked even
more than Arkham Asylum.
Even

P Lantern (01:30:11):
Imwe agree.
I think it's definitely betterthan Aham Knight in Arkham City.
I will say that the collectibleswere a lot easier.

ZaneMan (01:30:21):
oh yeah, there was battering scattered around the
city and you could see'em fromliteral miles away.

P Lantern (01:30:25):
Yeah.
They would be like, Hey, is thatsomething shiny?

ZaneMan (01:30:28):
It's a purple shiny object.
and you see it and you're justlike, all right,

P Lantern (01:30:31):
well I guess that's a battering.
It was fun cause we'd be liketraveling to a screen and be
like, oh, something shiny.
And we'd run over.
and they're also like, art onthe walls.
So it was a really, it was fungame.

ZaneMan (01:30:44):
It was really fun.
I recommend it to anyonelistening if you have anything
or anyone to play with.

P Lantern (01:30:49):
And even if you don't, it's a still a enjoyable
game to play.

ZaneMan (01:30:52):
Find it.
Get the game.
Anyway.

P Lantern (01:30:54):
Solid 9.5 out of 10.

Jonni Boy (01:30:57):
Gotham Knights.

ZaneMan (01:30:59):
I'd probably give it like a 9.5 out 10 too.

P Lantern (01:31:01):
I wouldn't give it a 10.
Outta 10.
It was kind of short.
I feel like they could've donemore.

ZaneMan (01:31:05):
I think the game could be longer.
I wish it was for player, but wewere having when the game, we
played it when the first gamefirst came out and it was having
issues back then.

P Lantern (01:31:13):
Yeah.
The first couple days of itcoming out,

ZaneMan (01:31:15):
we couldn't even play together in the first day.

P Lantern (01:31:17):
Servers were all messed up.

ZaneMan (01:31:19):
Then the second day we had problems with crashing.

P Lantern (01:31:22):
Yeah,

Jonni Boy (01:31:22):
sounds like a pretty cool game.
When I saw the previews for it,I was thinking it'll be one that
I would like to play cuz I'minto the whole bath.
Man, those man.

ZaneMan (01:31:31):
Yeah, you should.

Jonni Boy (01:31:32):
Yeah.
I take a bath every now andagain too.

ZaneMan (01:31:33):
So old pin land who will play with you because he
wants to get it again on the PSfive that you just got for
Christmas.
That's Santa brought'em.

P Lantern (01:31:40):
It's on sale right now.
So we could both get it if you,you know, are broke as a joke,
lose.
Sorry.
Excuse me.

Jonni Boy (01:31:51):
All right, well, thank you guys.
Uh, anything else, we gotta sayabout any of the, movies, black

Adam, the TV show, She-Hulk: Attorney at Law, or Gotham (01:31:56):
undefined
Knights, the video game.
or, you know, our our lovelyspecial guest.

ZaneMan (01:32:05):
well, I have something to say about all of them.
Maybe if you have nothing to dofor like an entire day and you
hate yourself, watch Black Adam.

P Lantern (01:32:12):
And if you have nothing to do for an entire week
and you hate yourself even more,watch SheHulk, just

ZaneMan (01:32:17):
don't do that at all.
You will, it will not end wellif you have money.
Then play Gotham Nights

P Lantern (01:32:24):
factual

Jonni Boy (01:32:25):
and get shareable apps, right?

ZaneMan (01:32:27):
Yeah.
Share, share, share shareableapps and not in quotations.
and if you know, pain Lantern,ask him why he'd come onto this
stupid show again.
Why'd he beg me over the phonethis episode?

P Lantern (01:32:40):
I will be back.
Mark my words.
I'll be back on this show.

ZaneMan (01:32:45):
It's grounded right now,

P Lantern (01:32:46):
but I'm here.
I'll be back again.

Jonni Boy (01:32:49):
don't tell his mom he's out.

ZaneMan (01:32:51):
Yeah, she doesn't know.

Jonni Boy (01:32:52):
Don't wanna get in trouble anymore.
She going.
All right.
Well join us next time on HeroChat Show, where ZaneMan and
Jonni Boy will discuss BlackPanther.
star Wars Andor the laterepisodes and Avengers the game.
Check out Hero Chat Show onInstagram, Hero Chat Show.

(01:33:14):
And wherever you listen to yourpodcast, don't forget to check
out or other episodes of HeroChat Show, and tell a friend who
likes DC Marvel or Star Wars.
And I do have another podcastUnder the Influence with DJ
DJJonniBravo.
We will see you next time.
Goodbye.

ZaneMan (01:33:30):
And I'm zane, man.

Daddylacus (01:33:32):
Attention listener.
If you can hear this, thenyou've tuned into our top secret
radio frequency, but not to bealarmed, kick back, relax, and
enjoy.
We're talking down Marvel in dcbut they don't have it all at
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