October 21, 2025 • 25 mins
Hey BOSS Ladies,
In today’s episode, I’m sitting down with Rachel Dorsey, a Certified Working Genius Facilitator and leadership coach, to talk about how to reignite your workday and find joy in what you do, without sacrificing your sanity.
We dive deep into how Rachel went from a virtual assistant student to thriving in executive leadership, and the mindset shifts that helped her grow into her boss status. She also shares her signature 3 Simple Shifts that can help you reignite your passion for your work starting today.
Whether you're leading a team or building your empire solo, this conversation will leave you energized, aligned, and ready to boss up in a whole new way.
🔥 What We Talked About:
- Rachel’s journey from VA student to executive leadership at The Virtual Savvy
- How small moments of investment can lead to major growth
- The power of saying YES to yourself and your purpose
- Why aligning your work with what energizes you changes everything
- The 3 Simple Shifts to Reignite Your Workday
- The Working Genius Assessment and how it transforms teams
- The importance of building energizing habits into your routine
- Real talk about leaving unfulfilling work and making empowered pivots
- Embracing self-awareness as a path to joy-filled productivity
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Hey boss lady.
(00:01):
Welcome to the Hey Boss Ladypodcast.
We're real conversation,powerful connection and
intentional growth collide.
I'm your host, Candace boss,founder, community builder, and
your biggest hype lady aroundhere.
We don't do surface level.
We talk strategy, systems,success, and the real stuff that
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happens in between.
Whether you're tuning in on yourmorning walk during that client
work, sprint.
For a late night hustle session.
I'm glad you're here.
Let's get into today's episodeand boss up together.
Candice Dorsey (00:40):
Hey boss ladies, and welcome to another episode
of the Hey Boss Lady podcast.
I have Rachel Dorsey here on thepodcast today, certified working
genius, facilitator andleadership coach of the Eaton
Candle and uh, leadership.
Hi Rachel.
How are you doing today?
Rachel Dorsey (00:57):
I am doing fabulous, Candace.
This is a full circle moment forus.
I am so excited to be here.
Thanks for having me today.
Candice Dorsey (01:06):
Yay.
I'm so excited.
So tell everyone who you are andwhat you do.
Rachel Dorsey (01:11):
Absolutely.
My name is Rachel Dorsey.
Um, I am a working Geniusfacilitator.
Uh, I got certified back inDecember of 24.
So I work with individuals,small and medium sized teams,
and I help them identify thework that lights them up, gives
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them joy so that they canbetter, um.
Work together bettercommunicate, work through work.
My goal is to change the waythat people look at work and see
it in a positive light.
Uh, so I love what I get to doOnce I tapped into that and I
figured out, Ooh, I can do thisand make money from it.
(01:54):
Absolute game changer.
Candice Dorsey (01:56):
I love it.
Rachel Dorsey (01:57):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (01:58):
I cannot wait to dive into it.
So
Rachel Dorsey (02:00):
Yeah.
Candice Dorsey (02:00):
tell us about, how'd you get the boss status?
What was their journey like foryou?
Rachel Dorsey (02:06):
Oh, great question.
I don't know if I can say thatI've actually arrived.
Um, but the journey has beensuper fun.
So I think for me.
The key in my journey has justbeen paying attention to the
opportunities that are presentedin front of me.
And they may not be a specificjob offer.
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It may not be, um, you know, arequest to be interviewed on an
amazing podcast.
It may just be smallopportunities to invest in
myself or invest in others.
So I am currently working at theVirtual Savvy, as well.
They're my employer.
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Love my job, love what I get todo, and, but I didn't start in
executive leadership at thecompany.
I first started as a student andlearning how to be a virtual
assistant, but then I joined theteam about almost two years
after I started my business andI was given opportunities to
interact with.
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Coach other students that weregoing through the same program
that I was, it wasn'tnecessarily an official job
offer.
It was something that wasavailable to me inside of, of
the position that I was alreadyin, you know, and there were
other opportunities along theway.
Um, several years ago afterrealizing and tapping into my
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love for coaching and mentoring.
There were opportunities toinvest in myself and learn more
about coaching and mentoring.
Again, wasn't necessarilyanother job offer, but it was an
opportunity to explore and learnand invest.
And so I did that.
John Maxwell has a certificationprogram.
I did that.
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In, um, late 23, early 24.
And then, like I mentionedearlier, I did my Working Genius
certification in December of2024, and just paying attention
to those opportunities forgrowth and learning and
investment that just step intomy path and, and looking at
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those opportunities as is thisthe next right thing that I need
to do?
Focus on the next right thingand then the next right thing
after that will, will comeforward.
Um, but just looking and payingattention to, and stepping into
those, those opportunities haveallowed me to continue in this
journey of boss lady.
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So, yeah.
Candice Dorsey (04:41):
love it.
I love it so much.
And I think that's one of thethings that we don't pay
attention to, like what is thenext right thing?
And we was just talking aboutthe book,
Rachel Dorsey (04:50):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (04:51):
The next right thing, which I'm definitely
gonna pick that up.
Rachel Dorsey (04:54):
Yes.
Yes.
Candice Dorsey (04:55):
just having, just having that, I guess that.
You know that help
Rachel Dorsey (05:02):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (05:03):
steps.
'cause oftentimes we don't know
Rachel Dorsey (05:06):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (05:08):
we think it's this, but then it is not this.
But then it's like, oh, well welike all different places.
I can speak that for myself.
Rachel Dorsey (05:16):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (05:17):
know.
Like I think by five differentthings is the next right thing.,
Rachel Dorsey (05:20):
I totally agree and sometimes, sometimes we have
to step out in faith.
Not know what the very next stepafter that is going to be.
And that can be super, superscary.
And so, like, you know, evenlooking at my own journey and,
and you, Candace and yourlisteners as well, like you can,
retrospect is a powerful thing,right?
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You can look backwards and seethe different steps that you've
taken, but each one of thosenext steps that you've taken is
a part of your journey that'sgoing to be.
Forever ongoing and you know,putting on the name tag or
claiming the title of, of BossLady is just one of those steps.
We're never going to finallyarrive at the status.
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It's no, I'm claiming that thisis who I am and this is what I
want to be.
I want to be in charge of my ownlife and I'm going to take that
next step, whatever it is foryou.
But also, you know, kind oftying in the working genius is
making sure that you are lovingwhat you're doing.
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That what you do brings you joyand energy and fulfillment.
If you're leaving your daydrained and exhausted and
frustrated, there's somethingout of alignment that we need to
dive into.
Not that life is always going tobe easy and life is always going
to be.
Happy.
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Um, it's not a good word to use,but, um, the work that you do
can energize you.
It can bring you joy, it canbring you fulfillment, and so
you also want to make sure thatthose are aligned as well.
Candice Dorsey (07:02):
I was totally getting ready to segue into
something, but I better sit ontopic because you know, the
thing of it is, it's so funnybecause we were taught and told
our all of our lives to get ajob and.
We always were like, oh, I don'tlike that.
I've been the one that I've beenlike, I don't like this.
I'm leaving.
And then, you know, I had tolearn to, even though I don't
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like it, I still need to do itbecause it pays the bills or it
brings in the money.
So even though you don't likesomething, you know, you still
have to do it.
And I think we're programmed
Rachel Dorsey (07:41):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (07:42):
To stay in something that we don't like
Rachel Dorsey (07:45):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (07:46):
we have to
Rachel Dorsey (07:47):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (07:48):
in the money.
You get what I'm saying?
Rachel Dorsey (07:50):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Candice Dorsey (07:51):
that is, is stuck there, that's still doing
things that they don't likedoing
Rachel Dorsey (07:56):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (07:57):
they have to.
And my mom, she gets on my case,
Rachel Dorsey (08:00):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (08:01):
she gets on my case about it.
She was like, if you don't likethe client work, then tell them
bye.
I am like, but mom,
Rachel Dorsey (08:07):
Oh
Candice Dorsey (08:08):
getting money.
Rachel Dorsey (08:09):
mm.
I like Mama.
Candice Dorsey (08:12):
You my mama.
She is, she's totally differentperson now.
Like as I got older, she waslike, no, you need to get rid of
that.
You
Rachel Dorsey (08:19):
Oh, that's so good.
Candice Dorsey (08:20):
in money, you
Rachel Dorsey (08:21):
Yeah.
Candice Dorsey (08:22):
she's like, no.
Rachel Dorsey (08:23):
Yeah.
If we recognize that we actuallydo have the choice.
We can take control then it's a,it's a game changer.
Now, I'm not going to tell youto just up and quit your job and
leave today and go chase aftersomething.
No, no, no, no.
We're going to be reasonable.
We're gonna make a plan.
We're gonna, what's the nextright thing that I need to do
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and, and figure that out.
But you do not have to staytrapped.
In a toxic environment, you donot have to be trapped in work
that does not light you up, thatdoes not energize you.
And, uh, just identifying it,putting a label on it can bring
that self-awareness to help youmake the next right choice for
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you in whatever that is.
Whether.
You're an employee, uh, whetherit's something that you're going
to be doing with anorganization, maybe your church
or volunteering somewhere, ormaybe it's a business and, and
what you're doing and whatyou're offering your clients,
all of that, uh, can be alignedwhen you identify what you love
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to do and just labeling it canbe a game changer.
Candice Dorsey (09:38):
Uh, I
Rachel Dorsey (09:38):
Hmm.
Candice Dorsey (09:39):
so much.
love it.
Rachel Dorsey (09:41):
Yeah.
Candice Dorsey (09:41):
what was one pivot that surprised you the
most and taught you something,game changing about yourself?
Rachel Dorsey (09:48):
Such a great question and I, I think for me
it was kind of in the same lineof what we were just talking
about is saying yes to myself.
Like I, I can say yes to myself.
I can, I can make the choicethat this is what I want to do
because this is what I lovedoing.
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And when I made that choice ofsaying yes to myself, I was
pleasantly surprised by how funit was and how much joy I was
receiving.
And not in a selfish way.
And this is what I was meant todo.
This is, I, I don't believe thatwe are meant to, to grind and be
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miserable and be stuck.
No, I is grind and gritrequired.
Yes it is, but let's, let's havejoy and fulfillment while we're
doing that, right?
It's going to take hard work.
It's going to take grit, butthat doesn't mean that we can't
enjoy it.
And so.
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Pivotal for me was saying yes tomyself, being a little selfish
in essence and saying, no, Iwant to do this.
I want to invest in myself.
I want to put the energy behindthis.
And then on the backside ofthat, receiving the fulfillment
and be like, oh, this is, thisis what it's supposed to be
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about.
This is good.
And continuing down that path.
Candice Dorsey (11:23):
I love that.
Oh, love it so much.
So we're going to dive intoReignite your workday.
Three simple shifts to energizeyour work.
Can you tell us more about that?
Rachel Dorsey (11:38):
I'm gonna give you three simple steps.
Um, if you're a writer, writethis down.
If you're a typer, get yourphone out and type it out.
Whatever this looks like foryou.
I'm gonna give you three simplesteps to reignite your workday.
So, Candace introduced, the nameof my business.
It's in Kindle.
Leadership in Kindle, is asynonym for Ignite.
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So think of a fire.
I love the analogy of a.
Fire.
I also love a real fire.
Um, no, I'm not a pyro, but I dolove like sitting around a
campfire.
One of my favorite treats,s'mores, um, growing up, I
remember, I distinctly rememberSunday evenings, we would, we
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would have a fire on the backporch and we would roast hot
dogs and have s'mores.
And those memories, that feelingof comfort and joy around a fire
started very, very young.
And as I've gotten older, I'vehad amazing conversations with
family, with my husband, withfriends sitting around a fire.
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But if you also look at a fire,it can be used in very powerful
ways in nature when usedappropriately and used in the
right way.
Fire is a source of light.
Fire is a source of warmth.
All of those things.
And so.
In Kindle, I want to ignite andhelp others ignite that within
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themselves and, and the passionand, uh, identify their purpose
and identify what brings themjoy and fulfillment.
And one of the areas in which wespend a lot of time is our work.
So how can we reignite that joyand fulfillment inside of our
work?
I'll give you three things.
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The first one.
Prioritize your energizingtasks.
Believe it or not, it's actuallymore important that you start
with the things that energizeyou versus getting the grunt
work out of the way.
Sometimes the phrase is used,eat the frog first.
I'm not necessarily on thattrain.
Um, I think that if you canstart with the things that
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energize you, prioritize those,make those the bulk of your day,
that's going to keep themomentum going now.
Can you take away all the workthat you don't enjoy doing?
No, that's not reality.
There are going to be thingsthat you don't want to do.
There are going to be thingsthat you don't like to do, but
if you can prioritize work, 80%.
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What you love doing.
Then we can look at the other20%.
We can time block it.
We can figure out when thosetasks are best, put in our day
and and schedule those out.
We can also do the second tip,which is.
We can, delegate those tasks outthat we don't like to do, or we
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can simplify those tasks that wedon't like to do.
So first we're gonna prioritizethe tasks that energize us, that
bring us joy.
bring us fulfillment, bring usenergy.
And then second, we're gonnalook at those tasks that don't.
Is there a way that we cansimplify them?
There are tools and platformsout there.
Um, ai, we won't even get intothat train, but like.
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There are so many ways that wecan simplify the things that we
don't love doing.
Maybe you can even delegate and,you know, I know we're focused
on our workday, but I delegatemy grocery shopping to others.
Like, I don't want to spend thehour walking down the crowded
aisles to find the spaghettisauce or the cereal, or.
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The milk that's not going toexpire tomorrow.
Like, I don't want to do that.
I'm gonna delegate that tosomebody else and I'm gonna
simplify it for myself.
And so, looking at thoseopportunities to simplify or
delegate.
And number three is to buildenergizing tasks into your day.
Like look at those things thatyou can, uh, do in your day,
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start your day, that light, thatenergy, and build into it.
So a personal example for me is,and I was telling Candace this
in a earlier conversation, wasmy gratitude journal.
I have never necessarily claimedto be a journaler.
I, it never has been a habitthat I have necessarily, uh,
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kept up with.
I've tried to, but I've neverfound something that I could
stick with.
Until most recently, I figuredout I love expressing the things
that I'm grateful for, and thatbrings me joy and that brings me
energy.
And I also love a list.
I'm, I love a good to-do listand all the things I, so I took
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those two joys and I combinedthem.
And so I start my day with agratitude list.
I write down.
I'm thankful for.
I'm thankful for, I'm thankfulfor, and I name specific things,
both present and future.
And so I recognized expressinggratitude.
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I know I love a good list.
And building into that, thatenergizing task.
It could be exercise, it couldbe yoga, it could be meditating
or prayer.
It.
It could be reading, it could bea whole myriad of things, but
find those things that energizeyou at the beginning and build
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into that.
Build habits.
Build structure around that.
So number one, we're gonnaprioritize the work, the tasks
that give us joy.
We're gonna focus on those,identify the ones that don't.
We can do that even throughgreat tools like the Working a
Genius assessment, right?
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Like that's a tool that can helpyou identify the work, the tasks
that you love.
And like I said earlier, put alabel on it.
Are you a wonderer or are you anenabler?
Are you an inventor or are you agalvanizer?
If you can just label what youare.
And not in a negative way, quitethe opposite, in a very positive
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way.
It can help you to prioritize,simplify, or delegate, and build
upon.
Those are the three tips.
Reigniting your workday.
Candice Dorsey (18:11):
I love this.
And, you know, while you weretalking, I was like, I do
something that I didn't realizeI do until a client brought it
outta me.
Rachel Dorsey (18:19):
Mm.
Candice Dorsey (18:20):
in the morning time, I don't like to do work
right away.
Rachel Dorsey (18:25):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (18:25):
I,
Rachel Dorsey (18:26):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (18:26):
say, Candice, you're lollygagging.
But no, I actually like to dolike more.
Well, my client told me, shesaid, I do more of the, the, the
planning or
Rachel Dorsey (18:39):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (18:40):
uh, the planning
Rachel Dorsey (18:41):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (18:41):
morning and then the implementation in the
afternoon.
'cause I have like this lunchperiod and sometimes I'll go for
a walk and then after that,that's when I actually like will
do the client work and task andeverything.
I'm like, candy, did you.
saying, unless I can, you gottastop doing that because you're
doing your, your client worklater on in the day.
Rachel Dorsey (19:01):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:02):
so hard for me just to get up
Rachel Dorsey (19:04):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:05):
my client work in the morning.
And then it's kind of like I'mnot there because I have other
things on my mind
Rachel Dorsey (19:11):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:11):
'cause I'm a creative,
Rachel Dorsey (19:13):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:14):
I like to do all of my creative stuff in the
morning and that's like.
You know, building out pages,all you know, or whatever I need
to do for my business creativewise.
Rachel Dorsey (19:22):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:23):
I do the implementation for my
Rachel Dorsey (19:24):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:25):
I'm going to go ahead and do this for
Rachel Dorsey (19:26):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:27):
this, this,
Rachel Dorsey (19:27):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:28):
I need
Rachel Dorsey (19:28):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:29):
So when you were saying that, I was like, oh my
goodness, I am kind of doingthat.
Rachel Dorsey (19:34):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:34):
to add in that that extra, that third one.
Rachel Dorsey (19:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
And it's just, it's theself-awareness piece.
And I, if you knew me two yearsago, you would not have heard
from somebody who loves a goodassessment and telling you who
you are and, what you love doingor what your personality is.
I was quite the opposite.
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I kind of.
Pushed against and said, no, Idon't.
I don't wanna be told all ofthat.
But what's so different aboutthe working genius is that it's
not focused on my personality,it's focused on what I love
doing the work like Prote.
Activity, um, and identifyingthat because that's it, it it's
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part of the bigger picture.
Yes, there is an element ofpersonality in that for sure,
but we're looking at what's thework, what's, what types of
things light me up and give mejoy and that self-awareness can
give us.
And arm us with the information.
When we're looking at bigdecisions like, is this
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opportunity, is this client thatI'm looking at?
Is this gonna allow me tooperate within my geniuses?
No.
Then why would I even considerit?
Because it's not going to bejoyful or fulfilling for me.
Right, and looking at, okay, isthis opportunity to serve all?
Although it's a greatopportunity to serve and serving
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is good, and volunteering isimportant, and giving of
ourselves, absolutely.
But is that gonna allow me tooperate and thrive within my
geniuses?
Then I'm not gonna show up in mybest person, right?
If it's yes, then heck yes.
Let's do it.
And it's okay to make a decisionbased on that.
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It's giving your.
Yourself permission to say yes.
Candice Dorsey (21:24):
Now I'm thinking, ah, Rachel has had me
thinking
Rachel Dorsey (21:29):
thinking is good.
Thinking is good.
Candice Dorsey (21:31):
just be going.
Rachel Dorsey (21:32):
Yes.
Good, good, good.
Candice Dorsey (21:34):
Awesome.
So as you know here at HayballSlaves, we're all about
connection and collaboration.
What type of collaborations areyou looking for right now?
Rachel Dorsey (21:43):
I love that you asked this, Candace, because,
uh, you know me, I'm very much arelational person, so building
connections, helping otherpeople build connections is a
value of mine.
It's a joy of mine.
I want to connect, um, with youif you are wanting to explore
more of what's the work thatlights me up., And so I wanna
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connect with you if that's yourthing, or maybe, you know, or
you're part of a team where thiscould be helpful for your team,
then I would love to connectwith you and learn more about
that as well.
Um, as far as, uh, my personalgrowth and who I want to
interact with and learn from,surprisingly enough, I want to
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be connected and learn fromother people doing something of
the same.
I am one that strongly believesthere's room in this world for
everyone because we're alldifferent and we're all unique,
even though we might be doingsimilar things.
And so maybe you know, ofsomebody that does, uh,
leadership consulting or, um,works with small, medium sized
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teams, I would love to interactand, and be connected with you
or someone else that you mayknow.
Candice Dorsey (22:59):
Awesome.
how can people connect with you?
Rachel Dorsey (23:03):
You simply reach out to me.
You can find me on LinkedIn,slash in Kindle leadership.
I'm sure Candace will give youall the spelling, all the
things.
Uh, you can email me directly athello@inkindleleadership.com.
And I even have a special offerfor the listeners, um, as well.
And Candace can give you thatlink and you can reach out if
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that's something of interest toyou as well.
Candice Dorsey (23:27):
Awesome.
Well, thank you Rachel so muchfor being.
On the podcast today, it isalways a joy to sit with you
Rachel Dorsey (23:33):
Hmm
Candice Dorsey (23:34):
conversations.
I always learn so much from you.
Rachel Dorsey (23:36):
Hmm.
Thanks Candace so much.
It's been a joy.
I.
And that's a wrap for today'sepisode of Hey Boss Ladies, if
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a review or share with abusiness bestie.
And if you're ready for deeperconversation and powerful
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The link is in the show notesbelow.
Until next time, stay bold, staybrilliant, and keep showing up
like the boss you are.
Hey boss lady.
(00:01):
Welcome to the Hey Boss Ladypodcast.
We're real conversation,powerful connection and
intentional growth collide.
I'm your host, Candace boss,founder, community builder, and
your biggest hype lady aroundhere.
We don't do surface level.
We talk strategy, systems,success, and the real stuff that
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happens in between.
Whether you're tuning in on yourmorning walk during that client
work, sprint.
For a late night hustle session.
I'm glad you're here.
Let's get into today's episodeand boss up together.
Candice Dorsey (00:40):
Hey boss ladies, and welcome to another episode
of the Hey Boss Lady podcast.
I have Rachel Dorsey here on thepodcast today, certified working
genius, facilitator andleadership coach of the Eaton
Candle and uh, leadership.
Hi Rachel.
How are you doing today?
Rachel Dorsey (00:57):
I am doing fabulous, Candace.
This is a full circle moment forus.
I am so excited to be here.
Thanks for having me today.
Candice Dorsey (01:06):
Yay.
I'm so excited.
So tell everyone who you are andwhat you do.
Rachel Dorsey (01:11):
Absolutely.
My name is Rachel Dorsey.
Um, I am a working Geniusfacilitator.
Uh, I got certified back inDecember of 24.
So I work with individuals,small and medium sized teams,
and I help them identify thework that lights them up, gives
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them joy so that they canbetter, um.
Work together bettercommunicate, work through work.
My goal is to change the waythat people look at work and see
it in a positive light.
Uh, so I love what I get to doOnce I tapped into that and I
figured out, Ooh, I can do thisand make money from it.
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Absolute game changer.
Candice Dorsey (01:56):
I love it.
Rachel Dorsey (01:57):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (01:58):
I cannot wait to dive into it.
So
Rachel Dorsey (02:00):
Yeah.
Candice Dorsey (02:00):
tell us about, how'd you get the boss status?
What was their journey like foryou?
Rachel Dorsey (02:06):
Oh, great question.
I don't know if I can say thatI've actually arrived.
Um, but the journey has beensuper fun.
So I think for me.
The key in my journey has justbeen paying attention to the
opportunities that are presentedin front of me.
And they may not be a specificjob offer.
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It may not be, um, you know, arequest to be interviewed on an
amazing podcast.
It may just be smallopportunities to invest in
myself or invest in others.
So I am currently working at theVirtual Savvy, as well.
They're my employer.
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Love my job, love what I get todo, and, but I didn't start in
executive leadership at thecompany.
I first started as a student andlearning how to be a virtual
assistant, but then I joined theteam about almost two years
after I started my business andI was given opportunities to
interact with.
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Coach other students that weregoing through the same program
that I was, it wasn'tnecessarily an official job
offer.
It was something that wasavailable to me inside of, of
the position that I was alreadyin, you know, and there were
other opportunities along theway.
Um, several years ago afterrealizing and tapping into my
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love for coaching and mentoring.
There were opportunities toinvest in myself and learn more
about coaching and mentoring.
Again, wasn't necessarilyanother job offer, but it was an
opportunity to explore and learnand invest.
And so I did that.
John Maxwell has a certificationprogram.
I did that.
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In, um, late 23, early 24.
And then, like I mentionedearlier, I did my Working Genius
certification in December of2024, and just paying attention
to those opportunities forgrowth and learning and
investment that just step intomy path and, and looking at
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those opportunities as is thisthe next right thing that I need
to do?
Focus on the next right thingand then the next right thing
after that will, will comeforward.
Um, but just looking and payingattention to, and stepping into
those, those opportunities haveallowed me to continue in this
journey of boss lady.
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So, yeah.
Candice Dorsey (04:41):
love it.
I love it so much.
And I think that's one of thethings that we don't pay
attention to, like what is thenext right thing?
And we was just talking aboutthe book,
Rachel Dorsey (04:50):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (04:51):
The next right thing, which I'm definitely
gonna pick that up.
Rachel Dorsey (04:54):
Yes.
Yes.
Candice Dorsey (04:55):
just having, just having that, I guess that.
You know that help
Rachel Dorsey (05:02):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (05:03):
steps.
'cause oftentimes we don't know
Rachel Dorsey (05:06):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (05:08):
we think it's this, but then it is not this.
But then it's like, oh, well welike all different places.
I can speak that for myself.
Rachel Dorsey (05:16):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (05:17):
know.
Like I think by five differentthings is the next right thing.,
Rachel Dorsey (05:20):
I totally agree and sometimes, sometimes we have
to step out in faith.
Not know what the very next stepafter that is going to be.
And that can be super, superscary.
And so, like, you know, evenlooking at my own journey and,
and you, Candace and yourlisteners as well, like you can,
retrospect is a powerful thing,right?
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You can look backwards and seethe different steps that you've
taken, but each one of thosenext steps that you've taken is
a part of your journey that'sgoing to be.
Forever ongoing and you know,putting on the name tag or
claiming the title of, of BossLady is just one of those steps.
We're never going to finallyarrive at the status.
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It's no, I'm claiming that thisis who I am and this is what I
want to be.
I want to be in charge of my ownlife and I'm going to take that
next step, whatever it is foryou.
But also, you know, kind oftying in the working genius is
making sure that you are lovingwhat you're doing.
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That what you do brings you joyand energy and fulfillment.
If you're leaving your daydrained and exhausted and
frustrated, there's somethingout of alignment that we need to
dive into.
Not that life is always going tobe easy and life is always going
to be.
Happy.
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Um, it's not a good word to use,but, um, the work that you do
can energize you.
It can bring you joy, it canbring you fulfillment, and so
you also want to make sure thatthose are aligned as well.
Candice Dorsey (07:02):
I was totally getting ready to segue into
something, but I better sit ontopic because you know, the
thing of it is, it's so funnybecause we were taught and told
our all of our lives to get ajob and.
We always were like, oh, I don'tlike that.
I've been the one that I've beenlike, I don't like this.
I'm leaving.
And then, you know, I had tolearn to, even though I don't
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like it, I still need to do itbecause it pays the bills or it
brings in the money.
So even though you don't likesomething, you know, you still
have to do it.
And I think we're programmed
Rachel Dorsey (07:41):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (07:42):
To stay in something that we don't like
Rachel Dorsey (07:45):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (07:46):
we have to
Rachel Dorsey (07:47):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (07:48):
in the money.
You get what I'm saying?
Rachel Dorsey (07:50):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Candice Dorsey (07:51):
that is, is stuck there, that's still doing
things that they don't likedoing
Rachel Dorsey (07:56):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (07:57):
they have to.
And my mom, she gets on my case,
Rachel Dorsey (08:00):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (08:01):
she gets on my case about it.
She was like, if you don't likethe client work, then tell them
bye.
I am like, but mom,
Rachel Dorsey (08:07):
Oh
Candice Dorsey (08:08):
getting money.
Rachel Dorsey (08:09):
mm.
I like Mama.
Candice Dorsey (08:12):
You my mama.
She is, she's totally differentperson now.
Like as I got older, she waslike, no, you need to get rid of
that.
You
Rachel Dorsey (08:19):
Oh, that's so good.
Candice Dorsey (08:20):
in money, you
Rachel Dorsey (08:21):
Yeah.
Candice Dorsey (08:22):
she's like, no.
Rachel Dorsey (08:23):
Yeah.
If we recognize that we actuallydo have the choice.
We can take control then it's a,it's a game changer.
Now, I'm not going to tell youto just up and quit your job and
leave today and go chase aftersomething.
No, no, no, no.
We're going to be reasonable.
We're gonna make a plan.
We're gonna, what's the nextright thing that I need to do
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and, and figure that out.
But you do not have to staytrapped.
In a toxic environment, you donot have to be trapped in work
that does not light you up, thatdoes not energize you.
And, uh, just identifying it,putting a label on it can bring
that self-awareness to help youmake the next right choice for
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you in whatever that is.
Whether.
You're an employee, uh, whetherit's something that you're going
to be doing with anorganization, maybe your church
or volunteering somewhere, ormaybe it's a business and, and
what you're doing and whatyou're offering your clients,
all of that, uh, can be alignedwhen you identify what you love
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to do and just labeling it canbe a game changer.
Candice Dorsey (09:38):
Uh, I
Rachel Dorsey (09:38):
Hmm.
Candice Dorsey (09:39):
so much.
love it.
Rachel Dorsey (09:41):
Yeah.
Candice Dorsey (09:41):
what was one pivot that surprised you the
most and taught you something,game changing about yourself?
Rachel Dorsey (09:48):
Such a great question and I, I think for me
it was kind of in the same lineof what we were just talking
about is saying yes to myself.
Like I, I can say yes to myself.
I can, I can make the choicethat this is what I want to do
because this is what I lovedoing.
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And when I made that choice ofsaying yes to myself, I was
pleasantly surprised by how funit was and how much joy I was
receiving.
And not in a selfish way.
And this is what I was meant todo.
This is, I, I don't believe thatwe are meant to, to grind and be
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miserable and be stuck.
No, I is grind and gritrequired.
Yes it is, but let's, let's havejoy and fulfillment while we're
doing that, right?
It's going to take hard work.
It's going to take grit, butthat doesn't mean that we can't
enjoy it.
And so.
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Pivotal for me was saying yes tomyself, being a little selfish
in essence and saying, no, Iwant to do this.
I want to invest in myself.
I want to put the energy behindthis.
And then on the backside ofthat, receiving the fulfillment
and be like, oh, this is, thisis what it's supposed to be
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about.
This is good.
And continuing down that path.
Candice Dorsey (11:23):
I love that.
Oh, love it so much.
So we're going to dive intoReignite your workday.
Three simple shifts to energizeyour work.
Can you tell us more about that?
Rachel Dorsey (11:38):
I'm gonna give you three simple steps.
Um, if you're a writer, writethis down.
If you're a typer, get yourphone out and type it out.
Whatever this looks like foryou.
I'm gonna give you three simplesteps to reignite your workday.
So, Candace introduced, the nameof my business.
It's in Kindle.
Leadership in Kindle, is asynonym for Ignite.
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So think of a fire.
I love the analogy of a.
Fire.
I also love a real fire.
Um, no, I'm not a pyro, but I dolove like sitting around a
campfire.
One of my favorite treats,s'mores, um, growing up, I
remember, I distinctly rememberSunday evenings, we would, we
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would have a fire on the backporch and we would roast hot
dogs and have s'mores.
And those memories, that feelingof comfort and joy around a fire
started very, very young.
And as I've gotten older, I'vehad amazing conversations with
family, with my husband, withfriends sitting around a fire.
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But if you also look at a fire,it can be used in very powerful
ways in nature when usedappropriately and used in the
right way.
Fire is a source of light.
Fire is a source of warmth.
All of those things.
And so.
In Kindle, I want to ignite andhelp others ignite that within
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themselves and, and the passionand, uh, identify their purpose
and identify what brings themjoy and fulfillment.
And one of the areas in which wespend a lot of time is our work.
So how can we reignite that joyand fulfillment inside of our
work?
I'll give you three things.
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The first one.
Prioritize your energizingtasks.
Believe it or not, it's actuallymore important that you start
with the things that energizeyou versus getting the grunt
work out of the way.
Sometimes the phrase is used,eat the frog first.
I'm not necessarily on thattrain.
Um, I think that if you canstart with the things that
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energize you, prioritize those,make those the bulk of your day,
that's going to keep themomentum going now.
Can you take away all the workthat you don't enjoy doing?
No, that's not reality.
There are going to be thingsthat you don't want to do.
There are going to be thingsthat you don't like to do, but
if you can prioritize work, 80%.
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What you love doing.
Then we can look at the other20%.
We can time block it.
We can figure out when thosetasks are best, put in our day
and and schedule those out.
We can also do the second tip,which is.
We can, delegate those tasks outthat we don't like to do, or we
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can simplify those tasks that wedon't like to do.
So first we're gonna prioritizethe tasks that energize us, that
bring us joy.
bring us fulfillment, bring usenergy.
And then second, we're gonnalook at those tasks that don't.
Is there a way that we cansimplify them?
There are tools and platformsout there.
Um, ai, we won't even get intothat train, but like.
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There are so many ways that wecan simplify the things that we
don't love doing.
Maybe you can even delegate and,you know, I know we're focused
on our workday, but I delegatemy grocery shopping to others.
Like, I don't want to spend thehour walking down the crowded
aisles to find the spaghettisauce or the cereal, or.
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The milk that's not going toexpire tomorrow.
Like, I don't want to do that.
I'm gonna delegate that tosomebody else and I'm gonna
simplify it for myself.
And so, looking at thoseopportunities to simplify or
delegate.
And number three is to buildenergizing tasks into your day.
Like look at those things thatyou can, uh, do in your day,
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start your day, that light, thatenergy, and build into it.
So a personal example for me is,and I was telling Candace this
in a earlier conversation, wasmy gratitude journal.
I have never necessarily claimedto be a journaler.
I, it never has been a habitthat I have necessarily, uh,
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kept up with.
I've tried to, but I've neverfound something that I could
stick with.
Until most recently, I figuredout I love expressing the things
that I'm grateful for, and thatbrings me joy and that brings me
energy.
And I also love a list.
I'm, I love a good to-do listand all the things I, so I took
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those two joys and I combinedthem.
And so I start my day with agratitude list.
I write down.
I'm thankful for.
I'm thankful for, I'm thankfulfor, and I name specific things,
both present and future.
And so I recognized expressinggratitude.
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I know I love a good list.
And building into that, thatenergizing task.
It could be exercise, it couldbe yoga, it could be meditating
or prayer.
It.
It could be reading, it could bea whole myriad of things, but
find those things that energizeyou at the beginning and build
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into that.
Build habits.
Build structure around that.
So number one, we're gonnaprioritize the work, the tasks
that give us joy.
We're gonna focus on those,identify the ones that don't.
We can do that even throughgreat tools like the Working a
Genius assessment, right?
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Like that's a tool that can helpyou identify the work, the tasks
that you love.
And like I said earlier, put alabel on it.
Are you a wonderer or are you anenabler?
Are you an inventor or are you agalvanizer?
If you can just label what youare.
And not in a negative way, quitethe opposite, in a very positive
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way.
It can help you to prioritize,simplify, or delegate, and build
upon.
Those are the three tips.
Reigniting your workday.
Candice Dorsey (18:11):
I love this.
And, you know, while you weretalking, I was like, I do
something that I didn't realizeI do until a client brought it
outta me.
Rachel Dorsey (18:19):
Mm.
Candice Dorsey (18:20):
in the morning time, I don't like to do work
right away.
Rachel Dorsey (18:25):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (18:25):
I,
Rachel Dorsey (18:26):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (18:26):
say, Candice, you're lollygagging.
But no, I actually like to dolike more.
Well, my client told me, shesaid, I do more of the, the, the
planning or
Rachel Dorsey (18:39):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (18:40):
uh, the planning
Rachel Dorsey (18:41):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (18:41):
morning and then the implementation in the
afternoon.
'cause I have like this lunchperiod and sometimes I'll go for
a walk and then after that,that's when I actually like will
do the client work and task andeverything.
I'm like, candy, did you.
saying, unless I can, you gottastop doing that because you're
doing your, your client worklater on in the day.
Rachel Dorsey (19:01):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:02):
so hard for me just to get up
Rachel Dorsey (19:04):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:05):
my client work in the morning.
And then it's kind of like I'mnot there because I have other
things on my mind
Rachel Dorsey (19:11):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:11):
'cause I'm a creative,
Rachel Dorsey (19:13):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:14):
I like to do all of my creative stuff in the
morning and that's like.
You know, building out pages,all you know, or whatever I need
to do for my business creativewise.
Rachel Dorsey (19:22):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:23):
I do the implementation for my
Rachel Dorsey (19:24):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:25):
I'm going to go ahead and do this for
Rachel Dorsey (19:26):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:27):
this, this,
Rachel Dorsey (19:27):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:28):
I need
Rachel Dorsey (19:28):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:29):
So when you were saying that, I was like, oh my
goodness, I am kind of doingthat.
Rachel Dorsey (19:34):
Mm-hmm.
Candice Dorsey (19:34):
to add in that that extra, that third one.
Rachel Dorsey (19:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
And it's just, it's theself-awareness piece.
And I, if you knew me two yearsago, you would not have heard
from somebody who loves a goodassessment and telling you who
you are and, what you love doingor what your personality is.
I was quite the opposite.
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I kind of.
Pushed against and said, no, Idon't.
I don't wanna be told all ofthat.
But what's so different aboutthe working genius is that it's
not focused on my personality,it's focused on what I love
doing the work like Prote.
Activity, um, and identifyingthat because that's it, it it's
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part of the bigger picture.
Yes, there is an element ofpersonality in that for sure,
but we're looking at what's thework, what's, what types of
things light me up and give mejoy and that self-awareness can
give us.
And arm us with the information.
When we're looking at bigdecisions like, is this
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opportunity, is this client thatI'm looking at?
Is this gonna allow me tooperate within my geniuses?
No.
Then why would I even considerit?
Because it's not going to bejoyful or fulfilling for me.
Right, and looking at, okay, isthis opportunity to serve all?
Although it's a greatopportunity to serve and serving
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is good, and volunteering isimportant, and giving of
ourselves, absolutely.
But is that gonna allow me tooperate and thrive within my
geniuses?
Then I'm not gonna show up in mybest person, right?
If it's yes, then heck yes.
Let's do it.
And it's okay to make a decisionbased on that.
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It's giving your.
Yourself permission to say yes.
Candice Dorsey (21:24):
Now I'm thinking, ah, Rachel has had me
thinking
Rachel Dorsey (21:29):
thinking is good.
Thinking is good.
Candice Dorsey (21:31):
just be going.
Rachel Dorsey (21:32):
Yes.
Good, good, good.
Candice Dorsey (21:34):
Awesome.
So as you know here at HayballSlaves, we're all about
connection and collaboration.
What type of collaborations areyou looking for right now?
Rachel Dorsey (21:43):
I love that you asked this, Candace, because,
uh, you know me, I'm very much arelational person, so building
connections, helping otherpeople build connections is a
value of mine.
It's a joy of mine.
I want to connect, um, with youif you are wanting to explore
more of what's the work thatlights me up., And so I wanna
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connect with you if that's yourthing, or maybe, you know, or
you're part of a team where thiscould be helpful for your team,
then I would love to connectwith you and learn more about
that as well.
Um, as far as, uh, my personalgrowth and who I want to
interact with and learn from,surprisingly enough, I want to
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be connected and learn fromother people doing something of
the same.
I am one that strongly believesthere's room in this world for
everyone because we're alldifferent and we're all unique,
even though we might be doingsimilar things.
And so maybe you know, ofsomebody that does, uh,
leadership consulting or, um,works with small, medium sized
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teams, I would love to interactand, and be connected with you
or someone else that you mayknow.
Candice Dorsey (22:59):
Awesome.
how can people connect with you?
Rachel Dorsey (23:03):
You simply reach out to me.
You can find me on LinkedIn,slash in Kindle leadership.
I'm sure Candace will give youall the spelling, all the
things.
Uh, you can email me directly athello@inkindleleadership.com.
And I even have a special offerfor the listeners, um, as well.
And Candace can give you thatlink and you can reach out if
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that's something of interest toyou as well.
Candice Dorsey (23:27):
Awesome.
Well, thank you Rachel so muchfor being.
On the podcast today, it isalways a joy to sit with you
Rachel Dorsey (23:33):
Hmm
Candice Dorsey (23:34):
conversations.
I always learn so much from you.
Rachel Dorsey (23:36):
Hmm.
Thanks Candace so much.
It's been a joy.
I.
And that's a wrap for today'sepisode of Hey Boss Ladies, if
you love what you heard, don'tforget to follow the show, leave
a review or share with abusiness bestie.
And if you're ready for deeperconversation and powerful
connection, join us inside thehey boss ladies collaboration
(23:56):
experience happening everymonth.
The link is in the show notesbelow.
Until next time, stay bold, staybrilliant, and keep showing up
like the boss you are.
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