Big Trouble in Little High n' Dry: Episode #79 (Feat. Reece Merritt)

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James Crosslin (00:00):
we should go, we should move forward because
we're high.
I'm getting higher by thesecond well then, let's dive on
in.

Ryan Baron North (00:05):
Hey everybody, welcome to high and dry podcast
, the only podcast keeping alivethe fandom of win ben stein's
money oh my god, I have notthought about win ben stein's
money in like 15 years he ranout of money.

Yeah, he became a real uh nut job.

I think he was always like deeply conservative
, but I think he became worse soI can't, I can I not confirm
nor deny, but like it justsounds like the the normal way
that everything's gonna go.

Reece Merritt (00:36):
I imagined mad scientists to be truthful with
you about ben stein, like hewould disappear into the
wilderness of appalachia andthen like ben stein yes, I don't
.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking
about, ryan.
What are we doing today?

I'm your host, ryan baron north, with me as
always, James Crosslin, andjoining us also in the studio,
Reece Merritt how you guys doingwhat's.

Pretty good.
We're all in person for thefirst time in a long time,
indeed.

Yeah, no, it's .
Uh, I'm excited about it.
We've been having a good timethis weekend.
This is gonna be a good show.

Yeah, we're actually.
We get to do this again,because we did it like six
months ago and the quality wasso bad that we couldn't use it.

Yeah, I can't and.

I don't remember what we talked about.
So it should work out just fine.
I'm so fucking glad you guysdon't remember.
This is so much fun.
I get to do my whole spiel overagain.
It's so good.

Well, so for those of you who joined us for
the first time, we're high anddry.
Today we're going to be talkingabout big trouble in little
China, about big trouble inlittle china, and we're going to
break it down a three-partmethod.
All right, we're going to startoff with our sober thoughts,
we're going to break down ontothe golden path and discuss a
little more in depth, um, andthen we're going to break into a
hypothetical and insertourselves and or drugs and

(01:55):
alcohol into the film.
But what makes us so specialand enjoyable is that we're
going to be doing it drunk andhigh.
So you guys smoked beforegetting into the studio.

Uh, what are you?

uh, what are you enjoying today?

we are enjoying.
The box just says marijuana onit really large marijuana brand
marijuana sativa, it's garlicbreath right, yes, this is no
hold on.
This is garlic crusher fromelevate deep roots, high purpose

(02:27):
.

Yeah.

We're not getting paid by them, that's how
.

I talk.
Well, uh, how is it?

Uh, we've been enjoying it all week.
Yeah, it's pretty, it's prettygreat.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's a soliduh 10 pack of dog walkers.
I enjoyed it All right, cool,yeah, no.

So I do have to catch up and get there and
I'm going to be doing that.
Sadly, with all, I have leftthe only bourbon I got left in
the house after this weekend,this essential bender we've been
on, I'll be going at it withbullet bourbon.
Yeah, for anyone who's had itbefore, it's fucking bullet.
Um, yeah, for anyone who's hadit before, it's fucking bullet.
You know you pay 20 bucks andit'll get you drunk.
It's a 90 horsepower.

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So this first one, first toast,first cheers to having the boys
back in town Doing this all inthe same room.
Love you guys, cheers.

Love you too.
Cheers, cheers, pretend noises.
Pretend noises.
You're shook for bucks.

I'm pretending to smoke right now.
Maybe I should have justfucking ripped them out there
and done it that way too, but no, no, this is good.

No, it's better watching you drink yeah, we're
having a fun time, that's good,oh, we got to do the uh, this is
great, we got to do the no facecontest oh yeah see if I can
pull it off that way so watchhis face, see it, see if he has
no reaction when drinking this.

Okay all right , but this second one and I've
done it again, I'll neverfucking remember to look it up
beforehand um, our second toast,second hit.
This one is going to go out toour newest listeners.
These ones were on, uh, ourlast episode, tactics of
Defeating the Invisible man,very depressing one.
Our newest listeners are fromwe lit up in Florida, yeah,

(04:13):
florida, woo, fort Myers.

Florida.
People had to find something tolisten to when they were in
their fucking flood shelters.
They were like, I guess, iodineDry, what is this?

Well, it also looks like I guess I'd dry.

What is this Dry that sounds nice.

It also looks like England has been jumping on
here.
We got one from London, we gotone from Letchworth Garden City
in Hertfordshire, and then wehave one from Oxford,
oxfordshire.

I wonder Cheers.

Cheers Delicious.

You did raise an eyebrow, but I don't think that
was a reaction.

No, it was more to.
Oh, we can try one more time.
This time I'll just stone it.

We can't prove it one way or another.

It's a bit like watching somebody sneeze with
their eyes open.
Alright well this.

I didn't think that.
I thought your eyes handled itreally well.
You just made a facial.

You just get lost .

Take a little sip of my whiskey and coke
chaser before I have some morewhiskey.

Alright, so this third one Cheers, well, this
one goes to our film today BigTrouble in Little China.

John Carpenter Classic Yep.

This one was really influential for you guys,
but I had never watched thismovie all the way through until
we prepared for this pod.
I watched it the first time allthe way through until we
prepared for this pod.
Yeah, yeah, I watched it thefirst time all the way through,
like close to when we recordedthe first episode.

you know it was wild for me.
Um, we watched it to the pointwhere I had memorized.
I had never seen the intro withegg Chen talking to the lawyer.

Oh, we're getting into it now, we're
getting into it now.

Take your drink, cheers.
So into it now we're gettinginto it.
Now take your drink.
Cheers.
So you had like a bootlegversion.
Yes, it was a memories of themovie.
It was a vhs recording noreaction.

By the way, he didn't have a single reaction.

Yeah, I didn't even notice.
Awesome, nailed it.
Sadly, this particular episodeis not a video recorded.
Excellent, um, but uh, so wewhen we were young, we were kids
, we had a vhs copy of it.
Yeah, that someone like off ofhbo or showtime or something
like that yeah that was recorded, but they didn't get in on time

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and so it always started withjust him in the truck and I
always missed egg chen in thebeginning.
Right, I didn't know that thatscene occurred.
It's a fair point until, until Iwas yeah this is central.

This scene is central to what I'm going to be
saying to you today, becauseit's going to blow your mind
about this movie, because youdidn't have that scene okay well
so uh already went over it once, but now it's time to get into
our sober thoughts.

So, gentlemen I mean guest guests first uh
race.
What are your sober thoughtsbefore uh you lose yourself?
Before I fully yeah, what areyour sober thoughts on big
trouble?

Release the rubber band, as it were.
My sober thoughts is that it'sone of my top three favorite
movies.
Uh, I bring it up in theconversation of uh three
favorite movies.
I bring it up in theconversation of best action
movies because it's got everyelement of not only a good movie
but a good action movie towhere I think it does Trump,

(07:35):
even Terminator two.
For that, for that title, Ilike everything that the
director tried doing.
We're remaking a John Waynestyle movie in a modern age.
Uh, you know, martial artsmovies were hitting the scene
very hard and John Carpentersaid you know what I'm done with
all this horror nonsense, let'shave some fun.

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And he made, in my opinion, oneof the best cult classics ever.

Yeah Well, just to now I'm thinking about
it just to John Carpenter'scredit, we've done two of his
movies before this on here, andwe've always has it only been
two.
Well, we did the Thing and wedid Halloween.
No, we didn't do Halloween, youdidn't do Halloween, no, so I
guess we've only done two.
Well, we did the Thing and wehad some very high praise for it

(08:28):
.

Yeah, it's a fantastic movie.

Yeah, I can't think of a single bad john
carpenter film well, I think theonly I I could, I could
probably give it some thought.
If you gave me imdb I bet Icould and there's probably some
like independent.

Yeah, you know quality ones.
He made it young in thisyounger years well, jane, what
about you?

what are your sober thoughts?

so I really enjoyed this movie.
I really enjoyed this movie.
I thought it was a.
I thought it was a very surrealmovie.
You know, I that's one of thethings I keep talking about
really enjoying on movies thatwe cover on this podcast is
movies that have this surrealquality, this like heightened
reality, um, uh, that is able touh make you feel uh whimsy

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about the world, you feel likelightened by the world yeah that
there could be this undergroundmagical society it's like.
It's like they're crafting amyth.

Yes, we had similar thoughts on Fifth
Element, just in that theycreated this world.
They spent effort and timebuilding this world with no
intentions of creating a sequel,a trilogy.
There's not going to be anaction figure, and we don't do
that anymore.

Exactly, we don't .
Nobody wants to build auniverse just for two hours.

Yeah, but that's what's necessary, right.

That's what you got, if you're going to
create a classic.

Yeah, that's a classic.

As D&D nerds, I think we know you have to build
the universe, Otherwise it'sjust dungeon crawling.

Yeah, oh yeah.
You have to make me invested byshowing me how real everything.

Yeah, and they do a good job of that.
Yeah, and I felt total recalldid a good job of that too.
That's the one I always thinkof from around this era of film.
Okay, I'll agree yeah it'ssuper surreal, super detailed.
Really.
The world feels lived in here'sthe setting yeah, and it was
really cool.
I didn't see it as a child, sowatching as an adult.
I came in and I was like, allright, first thing I gotta do is

(10:31):
for my buds.
I gotta try to look at thiswith a child's eyes, you know
like, look at this as aninnocent and take it at its face
value and it it brings up a lot.
You know, jack burden is superheroic.
He's really bawdy.
Is bawdy a good word If youdefine it, I'll be able to Like

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always shoving his elbow at youto be like did you catch the?

joke that I just yeah, okay, and I see where I
get that from.

And that's what I was about to say.
I was thinking, and this mightbe, I might be on the golden
path already, but oh, you wantto.

You want to go into it already.
Well, I don't know.

I'm thinking of just how formative maybe this
really was.
I think it was incredible.
We started seeing it as we.
We started watching this movieas children, oh yes, and we
children, oh yes, and we several.
So like I will, and you know,I'll talk to so many people my
age who still love disney andeverything like that and like we
didn't watch it like that much,but we did watch a shitload of

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big trouble in little china yeah, and then jackie chan.

Movies like rush hour and shanghai noon we're
constantly playing on our vhsplayer, but with with big
trouble in little china.

Specifically since we were children, we have
a huge like in your face.
Personality, yeah, um, combinedwith just world building and
fantasy and where kids probablyshould have been watching this.
I mean he, he literally rolled.
He goes undercover at a fuckinguh whorehouse at a brothel,

(12:09):
yeah and, but you just use your,your body.

Personality and work your way through things and
get it done.
Yeah, you guys saw this beforeyou had any conception of what
it was to be an adult man yeah,and so you know, so you, kind of
assume this is what it is justwhat you do.
This is what an adult man is,oh yeah no and uh, I made that

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connection when watching thismovie but also think about how
much.

Think about how good uh like jack burton would
be to like for all that.
He's great at communication,regardless of how stupid it
might make him look.

I got things to say this might be golden path
talk.

Alright, then it is time to enter the golden
path.
I don't know how you guys aregoing to join me on this one.

We're getting progressively higher, you don't
need to worry.

Alright, so then it's time for continuing to
get high constantly we'reprofessionals okay our fourth
toast, fourth shot smoking anentire joint of peace as it's
it's moment well then, I wouldsay that this one goes out to
those little things in life that, uh, formulate your personality

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that you yourself had nocontrol over.
It was just chosen bycircumstance and what your
parents were interested inwatching at the time, and then
you just got hooked and now yourentire life was veered into one
direction.

That's so funny man.

Maybe that's why I'm bad at dating.
I think it's why you're bad atdating man.
Now I've got this in thisinstinct deep down inside of me
to walk away from.

Well, she wants to get.
You know that little trailer inthe back and you know you turn
the trail.
You put a little apartment inthe back of your truck and
you're like, look, sooner orlater I rub everyone the wrong
way and we do so here's to uscheers.
Yeah, here's to yourpersonality.

That wasn't your fault, but uh, you have anyway
oh god damn it guys I got somuch to say about this, you're
going to fucking lose your minds.

You're going to love this.

Okay, yeah, why don't you start.

So we've entered the golden path.
You seem more excited than mesir, it's time to get into those
high thoughts.

I'm so fucking excited guys, because I remember
what a good conversation we hadlast time.
All right, so we've talkedabout how jack fucking whiffs it
.
This was not convincing at all,so, snake pliskin, I mean shit,
I'm gonna bring up snake.
Um, so this movie we talkedabout how jack burton is kind of

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a myth.
Right, he's like larger thanlife, he's like a representation
of America.
Yeah, right, an American man.
He's like the.
He's like the, the optimalAmerican man.

Specifically in the eighties, when they
didn't realize that they'd beendeclining since 1973.

Right, right, and it is kind of that October
1st actually.
It is that mindset ofheightened reality, of
heightened manliness that thatwas, is purposeful in this movie
and it's it all comes down tothat entry scene that you that
wasn't on your copy of of themovie, that entry scene with egg

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shen, what it is.
Let me.
Let me run through it realquick, because I've heard that I
I looked this up a lot ofpeople didn't know the beginning
, didn't have the beginning partin their copies, so I'll run
through our dad's old bootleg so.
So let me run through thesynopsis for everyone who had

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parents who bought bootlegs fromour father.
The opening scene is a lawyertalking to egg shin in a
lawyer's office and he's askingquestions, or or maybe a
detective I think it mightactually be a detective and
they're asking if I'm going torepresent you, I need to write
yes, so it is a lawyer.

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Yes, so you, I need to right yes, so he's a lawyer.
Yes, uh, so he's talking to eggshen and he's saying, he's
saying, like I need to know whathappened.
There was a, there was a ballof green flame that erupted yeah
, that erupted in theneighborhood.
People say that you're a verydangerous man, egg sh Shen.
What exactly happened here?

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And he's like and who is JackBurton?
And Egg Shen goes no, you leaveJack Burton out of this.
Jack Burton's a good man.
And that's how the movie starts.
And they're like tell me thestory of what happened.
And it starts with Egg Shentelling the story of Jack Burton
at a time that Egg Shen was notaround.

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He was driving.
He's driving alone on thehighway and, and, and he's
talking into a walkie-talkiewith one hand and eating a
sandwich with the other as heflies down the highway subway
sandwich.

By the way, I did zoom in as a child.

It is subway, yeah a full foot long sandwich
in one hand and the radio andthe other and no hands on the
wheel.
So what?
And?
And that's like, that's kind oflike that shows how risky he is
, and like how sure he is, andreally American.

Exceptional Is that he's willing to eat, to eat
while driving.
That's how I learned he's outof trouble eat while driving.
That's how I learned how todrive.

it takes so much energy to drive people.
You gotta keep your energy up,have a grinder in one hand at
all times my meatball.
But this is really importantbecause what's happening is
we're getting the story of JackBurton told as a folk tale, as

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like a myth, through the eyes ofan Asian American, an Asian
immigrant who came to thiscountry and is like how do I
craft a myth about America?
And these are the things thatan immigrant sees when they
think about America.
They see bodiness and surenessand physical exceptionalism,

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without like even trying how hecatches the things like I don't
work out or anything, I don'tknow, it's all in the reflexes.
Yeah, you know.
They see the way, the thingsthat we see as exceptional about
Americans and pick them out tomake a folk tale, like Eastern
culture does.

So are you saying that Jack Burton is Paul Bunyan
?

Yes, I'm saying that Jack Burton is Paul Bunyan.
It's like essentially the samepersonality.
It's how we build our folktales and it's through the eyes
of an Asian American, an Asianimmigrant who came here and is
like I need to tell a story.
My culture tells a story likethis.
How do I put american cultureinto that?

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No, why?
Why?
It's because egg shin is adangerous person.
Think about how this is thestory that they choose to, that
he chose to craft was where allof this stuff happening is, is
happening to and by asian people.
But this, this white,exceptional man, the best man,

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don't question this man, thisman's a great man.
He just is dragged along fromscene to scene until right at
the end he does the murder andthen leaves.
So you're saying, I'm saying Ishould murder this other chinese
businessman and create andcreated a story of magic and

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heroism to hide his murder, hiscrimes of another asian
businessman and that and I, andthe theory really checks out man
, the theory really checks outwhat.
But what?
The one, the thing thatconvinced you last time was the
was the line where he talksabout where they're about to go

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face lopin and he's like andthis one's for the military and
all our, all our brothers andsisters, all our brothers in the
military, what's the line?

I can't uh, here's to our army and navy and
the battles they have won.

Here's to america's colors, the colors
that never run nobody wouldfucking say that shit before
they go fight with just theirfriend.
But you know, who would wangchi, paul bunyan would say some
dumb shit like that.
But wang chi said it.
Yeah, he's telling this storyto create, to be like, listen,

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we and and jack burton, he, heloved the military.

Well, so there's a writer's concept
called contract with the reader,and contract with the reader
states that within the first fewlines you're stating the truth.
Originally that was meant toshow a reader what the voice and
tone style was going to beright, but then certain people

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took that and then gave you,like, those first few lines with
like an egg chen's thing in thebeginning.

yeah, told you the truth in their contract
right there, and then went offthe rails, right okay like, true
, like total recall did, when hesits down in the machine to
have his memory and theneverything turns surreal but in
total recall, the truth was toldright away that he is a bored
construction construction workeryeah and that and, and I think

(21:52):
you and I did in that totalrecall episode, I think you and
I did come to the conclusionthat in the original total
recall with arnoldschwarzenegger, because because
it turns into complete absurdity, right.
Right.

After that one scene, you and I can't, and, I
think, a lot of hopeful peoplewho just want to see Arnold win.

Yeah.

We're like no, no, no, it's true, it's all
true throughout.
But I think you and I came tothe conclusion, watching that
film in the modern day, thatArnold's brain fried when he
went to Total Recall.

I don't even think his brain fried.
He brain fried when he went tototal recall, I don't even think
his brain fried.
He just had the full experience.
Yeah, that the full experiencethat was the full, that was his
experience in total recall heordered this experience and he
got it, and that's where themovie ends, is where his
experience where's hisexperience at it.

So total recall didn't happen.
It was just a simulation, butlike big trouble in little china
.

What, what, what do we?
How do?
How are we linking that here?

I'm saying it didn't happen and like they said
in the movie that this contractwith the reader is that egg
shen, he's like listen, there'ssome holes in this story.
That's the first thing they sayin the movie.
Is there are some holes in thisstory.
What happened?
People say you're dangerous.

So from that perspective, the entire movie is
just egg chen's story yeah,that's, that's what we're
setting up.

Yes, it's egg chen's story and egg chen's
telling stories.
He for for things.

He's not there for, he just puts himself as
some innocent bus some innocentbus driver who happened to be
there at certain points, untilhalfway through, where his
contemporaries are in hiswarehouse, and say oh, he's a
very rich, powerful man.

He owns half a city block.

Was that just his ego that forced him to tell
that within the story?

Yeah, he's an unreliable narrator.
Is what they set up?

He's also magic.
That's how he's saying thingsthat he's not there for he's a
highly charismatic individual.
I don't know about that.

He owns the what you said he owns the I don't
know.

He's a very charming individual.
I've seen parts of his bus tour.

Solid pull.

Ripping the dead man pull solid, just saying he's
not, he's, it's not like he'suh, he's not billy holiday
flying out there.
He's, he's uh trying his best,but he's a very rich guy, not a
very charming guy, not a verywitty guy, not a very funny guy.

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You know he's got magic andmoney right, well.

Well, here's something then the that I'm
interested for.
The take on sure, and I feel inboth scenarios a mistake was
made, right, um, because youhave these cult films, yes,
where there is a strong desirefor a second, and then it's just
not going to pull the money inhollywood.

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So they create a graphic noveland, okay, I liked it.
And so they created a graphicnovel with big trouble in china.
They created a graphic novelwith fight club.

Oh, really okay that one needed to happen.
Um, they created a uh, I meanFight Club.

Oh, really Okay that one needed to happen.
They created a.
I would even like to take it toNeil Gaiman had Good and Evil
and it did so well that firstseason that they created a
second one and the reviews werein on the second one and it does
not hold up.

Oh it doesn't.
That's too bad.
That's too bad to hear.
I liked the first few episodesof of the good and evil one, but
uh, once the kids came in itgot really boring.

Well so in the uh graphic novel for big
trouble, little china.
The story continues and if weare to take the graphic novel as
canon, which they did, itfollows Jack coming in and
helping save the wedding fromevil forces that invaded his

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revenge for Lopan's downfall.

Okay, while pairing up with that thing that
was in the back of his truck.
Yeah, so you know, at the endof Big Trouble in Little China,
you see the monster creep up andhe's in the back, his truck.

Yeah, so you know, at the end of Big Show in
Little China you see the monstercreep up and he's in the back.
They become friends, Okay.

He gives them shirts.

This is clearly a folk tale right.

Well, but why would Egg Chen be talking to his
lawyer about this?

I want to know how it started.
That'd be interesting.
I never read this graphic novel.
We'll have to pull it up.

If I was a public defender and I was getting told
malarkey day in, day out, Ididn't murder her, my wife, she
killed herself.
And then some Chinese guy comesin here shooting lightning out
of his hands I don't know how hedid that and then tells me this
story, with Jack driving offinto the distance, and leaves me

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with a cliffhanger beforetaking off out of my office.
I'm gonna hey what happenednext asshole.

well, I'm thinking, do artists, after they
create a classic and amythology like this?
Do they just need to be fuckinggagged because the comic book
was signed off by john carpenter, who I'm sure just had dollar
signs in his eyes?

Sure Whatever.

I'm just trying to tell you that I know that you
watched this movie and seen itin a different light for a long
time.

Well, in that same vein, when they decided to
do the fight club graphic novelsright, they turned.
Tyler Durden became a spiritthat possesses people to start
periodic revolutions acrosshuman history what the fuck?

okay that maybe it didn't need to be, maybe
exactly that that's what I'msaying, so so maybe this graphic
novel didn't need to be, butthis, whatever this graphic
novel also fits the theme of,like the movie, where it's just
a truck driver, it putting us ina, in an.
He's a normal guy put in anexceptional circumstance and he,
he makes it out ahead.

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The thing is, that is what welike about the movie, that's
what we like about Jack Burton.

I like a different thing about this movie
, excuse me Ignore that.
But, man, the thing is, I likea different thing about this
movie.
Will you stay with me for oneminute and see how I appreciate
what I'm about to say?

I understand how you're coming to these
conclusions.
So, yes, I will, but understandthat you haven't convinced me,
I don't have to convince you.

I just want to explain to you how I enjoyed
that.
Jack Burton was essentiallykind of a, a mirror held up to
film and societies and society'sconcept of masculinity, and it
was like look at what we like ina, in a man.

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We like someone who's risky andwho's overconfident and takes
charge and orders people aroundand is successful and makes it
look easy.

Very difficult for an eight-year-old to absorb.

And everybody loves him and everybody loves
him.
You know, even if people areupset at him at first, they come
around eventually.
He can actually keep makingthem upset over and over and
they'll keep coming back.
And he's holding up a mirrorhere and saying like listen,

(29:28):
this is what you like in actionmovies.
Maybe think about what that isand how other people view us and
how we view ourselves.
That's the egg chin story andwhy this is a folk tale and why
it's crafted.
You know it's a crafted storyby a person.

Yeah.

Well then, and that's how I enjoyed it with
that first scene, I was sosurprised last time when I heard
your take on it, because thatfirst scene it was, like, so
instrumental to how I viewed themovie yeah, no for sure, and I
think there's a point there that, um, after the thing is made,
the artist in question needs tobe gagged um because, uh, so

(30:10):
like right now I'm cruisingbecause big trouble in Little
China had volumes in thisgraphic novel, wow, and there
was even a spinoff of thatcalled Old man Jack.

What.

And in which he and it says right at the
bottom, written by JohnCarpenter, with, and in each one
it's a with and it's withsomeone who's sort of in that
nerdy world, you know, yeah, whojust wants the content, who's
just give me, give me, give me,give me their style.
Who's just like give me thecontent.
I love this as a kid.
I cannot accept that.

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It's over right give me, giveme give me.

Jack burton would have never given up on
this series.
He would be out there writingletters saying give me more.

And so look, I'm looking at Old man Jack,
volume 2, over here, and thedescription here is getting old
ain't ever easy, especially whenyou're entering your golden
years during the apocalypse.
Love it.
Jack Burton's haphazard questto save the world and defeat the

(31:18):
evil, ching Dai dai, continueshere.
But to get the job done he'llneed help from some old friends,
wang chi and egg chen, thequestion is do they want to help
him?

is that the?

tagline.
That's the line I need to startreading.
Big trouble.

That actually sounds like a hoot and I feel
like we can both enjoy somethinglike that with the lens that we
have on the movie.
I loved this movie.
I thought this movie wasfantastic it's a great film.

Granted, you do have to watch it with an
understanding.
It's like great, it's a greatfilm, it, uh, it, it.
Granted, you do have to watchit with an understanding.
It's like 50 years old.
Yeah Right, isn't that wild.
This was made in a muchdifferent era.

Yeah, but I think, john, I think John
Comberter was ahead of his time.

I do, I know I would, I want.
I had a point for my own goldenpath on that.
I loved how at this point datedthe film is, but how cohesive
all the different cultures were.
Well, I enjoyed.

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Jack and Wang's relationship.
I enjoyed Jack and, oh my God,wang and Wang's relationship.
Yes, I enjoyed that.
They were those friends whohaven't seen each other for a
while but fall right intofriendship and they're going to
help each other, no matter what.
I enjoy that.
They immediately respect eachother's perspectives, beliefs

(32:52):
and everything like that.
I mean in the scene wherethey're, they're, they're tied
up and Wayne goes.
I don't want to insult you,he's like insult me, right?

And Jack just takes what Wayne says at face
value.

I appreciate that.
I like that Is it?
Is it entirely like?
Are some of the scenes entirelyup to date with 2024?
Definitely not no, no, butwe're talking.
This was made in the 1980s.

It's a reflection of masculinity at the
time.
So of course there's going tobe some problematic things, yeah
, and I think John Carpenter wasalso kind of aware of those
things.

Yeah, and because of that he also parodied
them.
Yes, he made Jack a buffoonwhen the fists started flying.

He sure did, absolutely.

You got the scene where he does the American
cowboy thing and shoots up intothe air.
The ceiling falls and knockshim unconscious for the first
half of the final battle.

Right and the second half he's messing around
with some dude in the in thefetal position yeah, but he's
always successful and I lovedyou brought up paul bunyan.

He didn't do that last time, but paul bunyan,
my bad, no, no, no, I said Ilove it.
I would have hated if you didit last time and not this time,
but you brought up paul bunyan.
Paul bunyan also has storieslike when he couldn't, when he
met blue, his ox, uh, when, whenit wouldn't behave and there

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was like a slapstick story aboutpaul bunyan.
Then they have all thesedifferent stories that take them
through and build this americanfolk tale.
I think that totally,absolutely, aligns with the
american folk tale tradition.
Is it aligns with the americanfolktale tradition?

is.
It aligns with a lot ofdifferent folk traditions.
Yeah like, even if you look at,like what's his, like monkey
king, keep monkey king.

He fails a couple times um kind of he's got
some serious stories and someslapstick stories.

He keep alonka.
His brother gets his head cutoff by a bat and then he
replaces it with a gourd, andthen they continue still having
adventures together.

These things happen, these things happen.

Buffoonery happens Shenanigans.

You know, in your 40s.

You know how it is?
Yeah, that's just a metaphorfor your 40s.

And I think they were aware of that.

You know you hit your 40s and it's like a bat
slices your head off andreplaces it with a gourd.
You know you start buyingpinball machines in the basement
and you don't talk to your wifeanymore.
It's the same thing.

It may not be you, it may just happen to your
friend.
You're the monkey king, yourfriend.

So yeah, no, for sure you have a weird conspiracy
theory about monkey.
Does it align with ourconspiracy theory here?
Not really, it's just.
Moana is a perfect rip off ofit.
I believe you.

Yeah, yeah.

I already believe you.

I don't need to see the math on that.

I believe that Disney steals all of of its
stories, every story it's evertold, ever correct.

Um, I'll bore you with it when the mics are
off.
Okay, so do you guys have anyfinal golden path thoughts?
Uh, any any drunken assthoughts you have about this
movie?

now that you're there, I think it was real, I
think.
Well, I wanted to add to thelast thing you said about about
it being progressive and himbeing aware of the satire,
especially some of the badpoints in this movie that we
could criticize, like the factthat there's an asian woman in
this movie who her name getsspoken once or twice and she
never says a line.

(36:31):
Yeah, that's not great.
Kim Cattrall is like overlynagging and while she is capable
at times, she is irresistible.

But on to your point, however, that this is
just Egg Chen talking In hisculture.
These American women, theywon't shut the fuck up.

You know that really does yeah it really does
it.
All of it fits and all of italso says that John Carpenter is
aware of this.
This is how we treat women andand ethnicities in movies and,
and how we think of our and, ina way, how we think of ourselves
.
All the good stuff, but not thebad stuff.

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You only see the bad stuff ifyou know it's sarcasm, no matter
what I do really appreciatethat nobody was really
sexualized in that movie.

There was so many opportunities for Hollywood
to do that inside of this movie, and the only one they did was
Jack Burton, when they putlipstick on him.

Well, he forcefully kissed her at one
point.
No, I mean, I'm talking like hekissed her against her will Are
you talking about making herlook sexy.

There wasn't any of that.
For the most part it was moremodest than other movies.
Oh, absolutely.
But even with the brothelthere's like half a boob that
you see, maybe if you pause itright.
Yeah, women were held captive,but there was no fan service.

No one was naked.
They weren't zooming in on anycell, I think.

I understand they were sexual, but not
degraded Exactly, and that's thekind of sexuality that we want,
that how America sees itself aslike.
There's a sexuality that isthat implies sexuality.
They're very sexual people andZach and I'm sorry, jack Byrne
over and over, is you know, hissexual potency is not denied,

(38:36):
even though he's not degradingto women or overly sexual to
them.
It.
It's so interesting, I did, you.
Did you see anything, any badqualities about jack when you
watch this movie?
Or do you think, or or have youthought of him as like a
paragon?

He's the buffoonery, definitely.

Did you see that as bad?

If you boast, then you're probably going to
get clonked on the head.

I agree with that entirely.
I always saw that too,especially when he would knock
himself out or he's trying toreload his gun.
It showed to me as a kid thatyou have wang, who spent his
time training, putting effort inright, respecting his like his
situation and doing that, he wasable to kill fujin like the god

(39:28):
of wind.
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, verycapable, great.
And for those of you not aware,mortal kombat's a ripoff of big
jungle china.

Um, but anyway but like also like when he uh,
when he stumbles with withgracie, like he came on, he came
on way too hard, his advanceswere rejected and then when he
tried again, right, he was madeto look a fool in front of his
friend.
They had a good laugh about it,but in that kind of vein he was

(39:59):
the buffoon again.

Yeah.

Because he went down.
He went where he shouldn't havekind of deal.

But he does eventually win.

And these are.
But in the end he won, notbecause of just trying a pickup
line.
He won because he showed thatwhen the because he showed up.
He showed up when the chips aredown he shows up, but he's
right there, he is like he'saware that he's never killed
someone.

He's aware that when the fight breaks out,
you're going to kick my ass.

Right.

But he still showed up to the fight.

Yeah, I'm going to but he still showed up to the
fight.
Yeah, when Thunder's there,somebody who has constantly
through this entire since Jackhas known him, has thrown him
around as if he's nothing Right.
And when it's go time he knifesup and gets ready to go.
Next to his buddy, Wang RightPlays.

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I Ain't as Good as I once was,but Toby Keith gets in there.

He's a goofball.
He's a goofball he talks louderthan he can back up.
But he's going to back up asmuch as If I was going to walk
into a place.
And let's say I'm Wang and I'mgetting ready to walk into
somewhere.
I know if I'm bringing jackhe's gonna come.

I mean, he's not gonna be always useful yeah but
he ain't about to run away andthere's a good chance he's got a
gun and or knife combo and thething is that it, like it's,
it's forgiving and almost sayingthat all of things, the
buffoonery and the oh, what'sthe other word?
The, the braggadocio, are likepart of the personality and

(41:43):
forgivably ongoing because it'spart of the personality of
success, of success and of uh uh, accomplishment you have to be
willing to try.

Well and I think I want to try that again.

You have to be willing to try.
Well, and I think I want to trythat again.

You have to be willing to try.
Yeah, and the other stuff isforgivable as time goes on.
Like Jack is going to run hismouth off is like something that
you attribute to Jack.
He's going to continue to rubhis.
He hasn't learned not to runhis mouth off.
By the end of the movie you seehim fail, but you accept that
it's part of him.

(42:19):
Yes, and I don't know if thatkind of thing.
I think that that is somethingthat maybe you guys modeled.
Yes, do you think that maybeyou also modeled that part?
no, the microphone itselftesting, testing, one, two,

(42:40):
we're good okay, well, I wasgonna say you said that you
modeled yourselves off of jackburton.
Like that's what you said islike this had like kind of an
effect on you where you feltlike you modeled behavior well.

So I mean, I wouldn't say I modeled myself,
but I would say that there's alevel of um bravado oh yeah, the
yeah actually the word I wasgonna use, that I that I took
away from that.
But I will also say that wangtaught me as much as jack did,
sure, especially when I wasyoung.
I didn't want to be jack.
No, I wanted to be wang.

(43:12):
Wang was a badass, you likejack, oh yeah are you kidding me
?

I didn't really have to do much and I have this
hidden talent that lets me killa god.
Yes, I want to be jack and andI get uh, sex in the city.
I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do,I'm gonna do that yeah, you like
it.

Yeah, she's.
Kim kachal is awesome.

She's really gorgeous in this movie.

I thought that I loved Wang's talent.
I loved his For me.
I saw this and I decided as ayoung boy that I wanted to be
the one who could do.
I still maintain a lot of thatbravado from Jack because I mean
he was like a second father tome yeah, second.

That's so fucking good man.
He was like a father to me.

Jack Burton raised him.
That's so fucking funny.
But Wang was my uncle and he ohfuck you.
Oh my gosh, and yeah, I alwayswanted to do and yeah.
And so you know, I was raisedby both those men.

(44:30):
I wish maybe that I had moretaken after egg and studied and
learned to craft a perfect storyand maybe I have because like,
I do that really well, so maybeI didn't take more after eggs
than I thought, but I wish I wasable to translate that into a
successful business that allowedme to comfortably do a tour bus

(44:53):
for fun.
Yeah, I wish, and so imaginemagic yeah, so so jack burton
was my father, wang was theuncle that I really wanted to be
myself, and then I took a lotof stuff from grandpa egg and I
just wish I had taken over hisempire.

Yeah well, I feel this is a beautiful movie
and I also wish you would haveknown I wish you would have
known that that you had theconcept of like.
This is a image of masculinitycrafted by a writer and director
, and they're doing it for aspecific reason and you're you
haven't experienced enough ofthe world to understand.

Well, the difference between Ryan and I is
that I took a lot from thatEddie guy.
Oh yeah.

Mater D.
Oh man Coming in with yourshirt, half tucked in Shirt half
tucked in.
Tooting my own horn A jacketthat's too big.

Oh my goodness.

But I mean mean he eventually gets with the
talkative one, but the otherreporter girl, yeah, yeah, well
that's normal for me, oh my gosh.

Oh no, first time you ever plugged somebody and
you know both of them have it Iam a people-pleasing person so I
know for a fact that if three,if there was a shotgun, a sub, a
submachine gun and a revolveron the table, I probably would
start off with the machine gunbut run in with the revolver.
I know, I know that downgradescale you gotta get the right.

Well, we can.
We can discuss the right specfor that scene.
Later I've got ideas.

It's time to get into the Third part of this
thing.
It's time for our what ifs whowrestles naked.
Exactly, and we're not going tobe filming this one visually,
so it won't be on YouTube, butyou'll be able to hear the
grunting we didn't have anyYouTube, but you'll be able to
hear the grunting.

We didn't have any olive oil, so we're just
going to use a salad.

We have vinaigrette.

You'll have to hold the mic.
For us, it's going to be prettyintense.

So it's time for our what-ifs.
It's time to take Big Troublein Little China, and each of us
are going to insert ourselvesinto the film with drugs and or
alcohol and determine how thefilm would change if we were
there.
So, james, uh, let's start withyou on this one.
So james has was in the back ofthe porkchop express.

(47:29):
Oh boy, how does the filmchange with the introduction of
you as a character?

so you know that first scene where they're uh,
where they're uh, where they'vegambled all night.
It's like it's like early inthe movie, where they gambled
all night and they're sittingand it's the final bet, it's the
final bed of the night wherehe's like I bet you I could cut
this bottle in half.
Yes, yeah, yeah, well, I, yeah,well, I would have.
I would have been the personserving them all night.

(47:57):
And when, when, when he doesthat shop with the bottle and
and Jack Burton catches it youknow it's all in the reflexes
have been like that was justlucky.
You can't rely on that.
You cannot rely on that.

Not take this man to any knife fights.
Okay, please don't rely on that.
Instead of going holy crap,what did I just witness?
Oh, fluke, fluke, do it twice.
Do it, anyone can do it once.

Let me see that bubble.
That's exactly what I'd do.
I'd bring the energy down forthe whole movie and then we'd
just get a real action movieinstead of this.

I was with that guy so you did you leave a tip
either?

no, so that's how it would have changed so you
would have taken a film I putyour car into the wharf at the
end, you would have taken a filmthat we've managed to have this
discussion on fucking modernmythology, race relations and
the difference between 1980s and2024, and turned it into a
forgettable action movie.

Yes, that's all I can do to deal with this
fucking film.
Yeah.

All right.
So, reece, let's insert youinto the film.
You can like, you know, you canbecome one of the roles
yourself, like how would it bedifferent if you were jack?
How would it be different ifyou were eddie?

um, you know, take it however you want to take
it I don't know if this is myfinal answer, but the thing that
would change if I were jackwould be the subway sandwich
order, because I always, Ialways thought it was a turkey
and I don't like that, so thatwould probably be like number
one.
Talk to the props, the cateringdepartment on that.

It needs meatballs so, but that would
actually butterfly effect thefilm.
He would spill the meatballs onhis lap crash before so yeah,
we don't want that.

That'd be very short.
You leave jack burton alone.

He cleared my gambling debt in one night
turkey is statistically thesafest meat to eat behind the
wheel, but I I always will getan italian bmt so you'd you'd
get off the truck and youcouldn't go straight to the
gambling thing because you haveheartburn, you have to take a

(50:28):
giant dump first.

It'd be like an hour.

I do It'd be like an hour.
I do like hot peppers.
Da-da-da, da-da-da.
You're just in the fuckingtoilet.

You know, in America we got big shitters.
It's true, we leave real logs.

It's another John Carpenter mirror society.

He got meatballs because he's a toxicly
masculine individual.
It hurts his digestion becauseobviously a diet consisting
solely of meatballs woulddestroy you.

I love how you guys' story don't exceed the
first scene.

I would also say if I was Jack Burton.

I would pull up for Wang.
If one of you guys, if one ofyou guys' wives, got stolen by
the triads and I had a truck,then yeah you're coming hot and
heavy absolutely I'm gonna dowhat I can, but uh I it'd
probably be a much more awkwardscene at the brothel if I was

(51:42):
jack.
I've I've never been a johnbefore.
He seemed comfortable enough todo a character.
I don't know if it would be thesame for me.

Yeah, interesting, solid points both.
I think if I were to beinserted into this movie.

I'd try to go through the movie.

You'd want to experience the movie, I'm
guessing.

You would make it to the backstreet fight,
where the storms show up andwhen each of them lift their
large hats to finally revealtheir faces, you would see me as
lightning and I wouldimmediately go off and use my
powers for crime.

You would be attacking Jack Byrne.

I would be like.

I don't give a shit about Lopin?

I don't give a shit about that truck.

I have lightning powers.
I have lightning powers.
The rest of the movie justfollows you doing crime.

I would become a supervillain, like we all
like to say that we would be thehero once you give us unlimited
power, but I know that's highlyunlikely.
So you would see Lightning asme ripping off a vault door at a
bank.

All of them seem very self-destructive and easy
to beat, though they really.

Well, Lightning only died because he
fucking took a statue to thehead.

As long as you don't get near any statuary
you'll be fine.

As long as I'm not some weird fucking dick
slowly stalking you with mypower, which is already
eliminated because I ran off todo crime as far away from me as
possible so I, I, yeah, it wouldbe.
You know, and you see my faceand like, first, this, this hats

(53:49):
, this doesn't work on me.
I, I feel like I'mappropriating, I'm going to take
this off.
I want to apologize.
So I would apologize to theChinese community and then go do
crime.

In the.

Chinese community In the greater San
Francisco area.
And that's how it wouldinitially change with me.
What would be your sandwichorder?
It was so if I, if I, if I hadto insert myself as jack, like,
if, if, like, those characterselections were denied, man, I

(54:24):
was jack.

how the thing would change he asked what your
favorite subway sandwich?

it wouldn't be turkey, because turkeys just
taste like napkins.
It really does, especially whenSubway's slicing it.
But then I don't know, I don'tlike Subway.

Did you know that their bread has a cup of
sugar in it?
It's fucking wild.
Oh yeah, it's insane.
It's fucking insane, it'sreally bad for you.

My Subway, my thing would change entirely
because, as a truck driver, Iwould never stop at Subway.

A quinoa bowl.

Yeah, I would have some sort of grilled
chicken bowl from somewhere else, or I would be trying a local
cuisine.
Because I'm crisscrossing theUnited States I'm like, oh, I'm
in fucking.

Philly.
Right now he's in the Bay Areayeah why would I and he's?
Eating at a fucking Subway.

You, jack Burtonton, you piece of shit
like you, piece of shit, likeyou could see the ocean and you,
yeah, damn jack burton and youwent for subway.
So, yeah, that's where it wouldchange immediately.

I, I you'd have sushi, you'd be.
You'd have one hand, on theother hand with chopsticks on
the radio not try with yourknees.

That's how it changes chopsticks I would be
sampling samples, franciscosushi Barreling through.

It's the same bravado.

Yeah, but then as the so, but the film would
alter in that.
You know.
You know I was, you know,raised by Jack Burton, but I
always modeled myself after Wang, as you know.
You got to be a doer, like ifyou're going to have the.
So that's what I learned fromthis movie.

(56:20):
That was my lesson from thismovie as a child was have the
bravado, but fucking back it upwhen shit goes down Right, and
so you would have a and it wouldturn into a boring movie at
that point because I would turninto a Jack Burton who could
back it up.
That wouldn't have the samecharm, that wouldn't have the

(56:42):
same longevity.

I totally disagree with that.
It's not that I don't think youcouldn't back it up.
I believe fully that you wouldwork for the guy who's offering
potential superpowers out.

We're talking if.

I'm lightning again.
No, no, no.
If you were Jack Burton andthen, you found out that there's
an evil warlock potentiallypassing out powers yeah, you
would turn evil.

Oh, I would turn evil, you would start
working for David Lopan.
No no.

The lure of power .

You would see a film where Jack Burton, the
Department of Defense marksman,on the M4.
The lure of power.
You would see a film where JackBurton, the Department of
Defense marksman, on the M4.
It's like it wouldn't be as fun.
You would have a Jack Burtonwho's competent once you hand
him a weapon.
I would definitely.

I think that it would be more of a modern
folktale.
It would be a modern folktaleyeah, which is that Ryan given a
weapon could be a cold killingmachine because we send young
men into the military to do that.

Yeah, but I would definitely stand with Wang
.
If you put me in the JackBurton role.
No, I'd be standing with Wangthe whole time.
I'd be standing with Wang thewhole time.
But Wang would have a much more, I guess, potent force behind
him.
He doesn't shower, not odorly,but Jesus.

(58:06):
Yeah, but no, like when.
I mean you would look at thatscene where Jack Burton is
getting ready to open the doorand he's trying to load up his
weapon and stuff like that, andthen they flood through and Wang
is able to use martial arts.
No, that's not how we go down.
I would take up a defensiveposition that was appropriately
aimed at the door to funnel theminward and they would all die

(58:29):
before they reached Wang.
I have a gun.
They would be slaughtered.
It would be a dark movie.

Yeah, can you imagine if jack held a gun
straight in the movie?

so many people would die not so like when that
, when that scene happens, wherehe like opens the door, closes
it and he says run, I'd be likerun back the fuck up they.
They saw me and they know Ihave a gun, but for some reason
they're going to run in and I'mgoing to kill them all.

They're going to stand in the way of a bunch of
bullets.

I'm not going to hold this gun at my hip.
It's going to be brought up tomy eye.
I'm going to be behind adefensive position.

You're not going to limp wrist the first four
shots.

And each shot is going to be hardhead,
hardhead, hardhead, hardhead.
It would be a militaryprocedural and that's how it
would change.
But that would change theentire film.
It would darken it.
It would move away from themythology.
We wouldn't be able to examinehow American culture is just

(59:34):
that bravado.
My film would start turninginto this fucking dark thing
where we now examine theheadspace you have to be in to
perform what I just did.

That's a modern.
That's like the modern folktale.
Yeah.

Because we're so fucking sick because we were
raised by fucking Jack Burtonand no one showed us the scene
with a kid.
No one showed us the scene withEgg Jed at the beginning, and
no one showed us the scene withEgg Jed.

Reece Merritt (01:00:00):
I don't think that would have changed too much
for me.

Ryan Baron North (01:00:03):
You never know , you never know, you never know
, because we didn't see it untilwe were adults and it did
change the movie.

Well, not really Deep down.
It didn't, for me it didn't, itdidn't change anything and
that's cool.

James Crosslin (01:00:20):
Yeah, I love.

If it is just, it's just.
If it is just an american folklegend, yeah, who got dropped
into chinese culture?
Who would come out ahead?

clearly not the american folk legend but well
that we don't think folk legendsfail at that time, like the
classical american folk legend.

No especially if we're talking 1982, I believe
, was this, I think it may havebeen 1980?
I don't know.
I mean, you're talking about anentirely different economic
situation for china absolutelyyeah also.

it's uh like, like yeah, even Oedipus fails a
couple times, oedipus was atragedy.

Let's not get into Oedipus.

Let's not Well with.
That being said, honestly, Ithink that's a perfect look at
this film.
We have a lot of perspectives.
If you are a fan of Big Troublein Little China and you haven't
seen the opening scene, Ihighly recommend you go back.

This movie is such art that it can be
perceived several different ways.

And that's what's incredible about it is,
we're still creating amythological film out of a time
when we were allowed to justcreate an hour and a half piece
of art, yeah, and then walk away.
Yeah, someone's like this isall it needs, because it's
perfect, but in 2024, you have abunch of assholes asking how

(01:01:46):
are we going to market this?
How are we going to make anaction figure?
How am I going to get into thetrilogy?

Somebody put my character in the metaverse fight
.
Shit on Playbook Multiversefight.
What the fuck was that?

Yeah, this new fucking WB metaverse Like how
is?

Egg.

Chen going to be able to fight Bugs Bunny?
Holy shit, that would be dope.

That would be so dope.
Fucking Egg.
Chen was throwing lightning atfucking Bugs Bunny.

I'm actually a little upset at Mortal Kombat
now.

When they did the Rambo.

Terminator and all that.

Where the fuck was Jack Burton?

Coming in.
You're going down just like mylast wife.

Yeah.

Well, if you could make up a murder-homicide
story for Eggshin, I could makeup a domestic abuse one for Jack
Well honestly that should besomething.

So I mean, high and Dry puts out the
thought trademark on it.
Right now we want the MortalKombat style fighting game that
incorporates the forgotten.
Want the mortal kombat stylefighting game that incorporates
the forgotten.
We're gonna have arnoldschwarzenegger of total recall.
Yeah, egg chen, jack burton.

Uh, I mean egg chen would be like an unlockable
yeah I mean, you got jackburton jack burton with a snake
plissken skin but all of those,because everyone like grabs
right like you.

Take all the mortal kombat games and they
grab right onto rambo.
They grab right onto, like the,just the, the nonsensical ones.
But there were so many thingsleft behind yeah and so, yeah,
let's see the fighting game withegg chen versus, you know, the
rest of the people that we leftbehind in that era yeah, I would
have to think of some moviesaround that time, uh, but there

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was a lot of action.

that was.
That was pretty action.
80s action got stale after thismovie.
Like this movie, I feel really,really called out exactly the
mythos Egg Chen versus the lastaction hero.

Yeah, there we go, yeah there you go and the
last.

That was a good movie, I enjoyed that that movie
I also saw as an adult and Ithought that movie was
incredibly insightful about.
About film yeah, it's aboutfilm.

Well, I mean well, I guess that's a point
about history is that you walkaway from the decade and you
only take the parody.

Right, yeah, that's very true, that well that
happened, yeah, yeah, I think Ithink a lot of times we we're
not smart enough to see what afilmmaker is telling us.

Yeah, let's pull out the intelligent, uh
well-rounded ideas of this, notjust the commercial yeah, we all
commercials got so big when wewere kids yeah do you remember
how many commercials on, likenickelodeon?

nickelodeon shows I look back to like 17
minutes long, which means thatthere were 13 minutes of
commercials in front of ourlittle eyes, just marketing,
yeah yeah, that's wild.

Well, so I would like to see the fighting
game that takes.
So we would have corbin dallasversus jack burton in our
fighting game.

Oh, corbin dallas, that's a great one
because it was a market bomb andwe only got it.
Looking back, corbin Dallasversus Jack Burton in our
fighting game oh, corbin Dallas,that's a great one because it
was a market bomb.

And we only got it looking back at it.
You take the masterpieces thatonly had the single film, that
build these worlds off of justthe single idea that this will
only ever be a film.
And then that's the fightinggame.
So Corbin Dallas against EggChen, you could use the.

Boondock saints, like the ice climbers in super
smash, where you could like ohyou fucking roll up and then he
throws him to stay under thering.
It's actually a pretty solidone um that's pretty good
franchise.

It's forced a continuation but they've, but
they forced it.
They forced it just like likewe were talking about with those
stupid graphic novels.
Oh, so you'd have Tyler Durdenversus Jack Burton.
Sure, oh, you haven't seenFight Club 2?

Wang Chi versus Tank Girl.

Oh, there you go.
Oh solid pull.

Solid pull yeah, I don't know.
Kim Cattrall versus the SurfNinja guy.
You guys remember Surf Ninjaguy?
You guys remember Surf Ninjas?
You guys remember when I madeyou watch Surf Ninjas?

We do, yes, we do.

Unsung hero movie.
I think if we watched it nowwith the new lens I would love
to see Rocky Balboa versus.
Leslie Nielsen as a cyborgsamurai which was in that movie
no no dude taking Versus thethree ninjas, no dude taking.
Oh the three ninjas, dope, I'mdown.

There you go.

Haru from the Takakura.

Dojo Beverly Hills Ninja.

Well, with that being said, everybody,
thank you for hanging out.
So this is High and Dry Podcast.
I don't know what do you takeaway from this one.
Not everything needs to be atrilogy, I guess, yeah.

Definitely.

Yeah, let art be art.
Our views on art also evolveover time.

Yeah.

And we're able to see more things in art as our
perspective changes.

And I would also say that it's an
interesting sort of continue.
It always comes up that theperson who thinks more
inclusively, the person whothinks more broadly, broadly,
less hatefully, their ideasalways seem to transcend the

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following decades.
Right, crazy how that works.
So everyone.

Good job, john carpenter.
Hats off to you again.

Yeah, I mean, even with the thing he was like,
they live like.
Yeah, it was all like johncarpenter always in every one of
his films.
The survivors are multiracialand he all, he always attempted
to go there.
It wasn't always completelyevolved, as obviously it's going
to be in 2024.
But I will also say this aboutfucking the, the, the culture.

(01:07:53):
When big troubleouble in LittleChina came up, there were no
one running around with a MAGAhat.

That's true.
Well, it's the same people.

They're just 40 years older.
Who?

raised their kids.
Oh my god.

You had kids right around this time.
They're all 40 years older andnow they have MAGA hats.

Well, thank you all for listening to the
anti joe rogan podcast.
Uh, catch y'all later.
Uh, yeah, I'm your host, ryanbaron north, with me all these
James Crosslin.
Special thanks to our guesttoday Reece Merritt.
Whoa, whoa yeah whoa yeah catchhim.

Catch him in las vegas, where are you performing
uh these days, you don't have tosay a specific date, just where
pretty much all over wise guysis one of my favorites.
I'm going to be on the JohnCaparillo what's that word?
Spotlight showcase thank youwith John Caparillo on the 7th

(01:08:56):
at the Wise Guys 7th of July.

Lovely.
So 7th of July, Catch ReeseMerritt with John Caparillo, Las
Vegas Fantastic.
Thank you all for hanging out.
Thank you all for listening.
We're High and Dry Podcast Bye.

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