Class, Comedy, And Keanu: Unpacking Good Fortune’s Hollow Hope

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We rate Good Fortune a 3.5 while praising Keanu Reeves and questioning the film’s soft landing on class. Humor and heart land, but the “rich learns a lesson” wrap leaves us hungry for real stakes, worker power, and change that lasts.

• Keanu’s performance as a near-human mirror
• Why mid-tier cinematography still works
• Soundtrack energy without memorability
• The ending’s rich-savior problem
• Class, shareholders and who the system serves
• Gig work, recession fallout and flooded labor markets
• What meaningful change might look like
• How we’d rewrite the boardroom for workers

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SPEAKER_02 (00:15):
Alright.
I came right out.
Doctor went to spank me.
I said, I'm fucking ready.
Alright.

SPEAKER_01 (00:21):
Get your hands off me.
I appreciate it.
I know what I'm here for.

SPEAKER_03 (00:27):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
Alright.
Well, hey everybody.
Welcome to High and Dry Podcast.
We know what we're here for.
We're getting ready to do thisthing.
I'm your host, Ryan BarronNorth.
With me as always, JamesCrossland.
Luke, how are you guys doingtoday?
Good, good.

SPEAKER_02 (00:41):
How are you?

SPEAKER_01 (00:42):
Doing good.
Sunday.
Yeah, it's Sunday.
So I got the uh that Sundayanxiety knowing that I'm heading
towards uh that fucking fivesevenths of my life that I hate.

SPEAKER_02 (00:54):
See, the good thing for me is I've got a I'm going
into a four-day work week, so Iyou know I have this light at
the end of the tunnel.
Um, so this Sunday is not as youknow dreadful as usual.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08):
No, I'm actually.
I had a mental breakdown and I'moff work.
For like a month.
What?
Yeah.
So so I've got dread, but it'snot about going back to work
tomorrow.
It's about I don't know,everything everything else
besides that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26):
Dealing with the mental breakdown part.
Okay.
Well, we're gonna circle backaround that piece, James, later
after the show.
Well, no, it'll be during theshow.

SPEAKER_02 (01:36):
A lot to do, I'm sure a lot of my anxieties got
to do it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I agree.
Okay, cool.
Cool, cool, cool.

SPEAKER_02 (01:42):
The very obvious nail that they kept hitting on
the head during this film.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:46):
Yeah.
No, alright.
Well, I'm excited for that.
Um sounds good to me.
Sounds good to me.
So, anyway.
All right.
So, anyway, uh, this is High andDry Podcast, the only podcast uh
dedicated to the fandom of 1980to 1988's contact.
321 contact, that is.

(02:08):
Uh, we're still keeping thatalive.
I don't know if anyone isfamiliar with that that show at
all.
I have no idea what you'retalking about.
It's not it's not the movie withJody Foster.
No, no.
Alright, fine.
How about the only podcastdedicated to the following with
uh Kevin Bacon?
Where he chases a serial killerfor uh three seasons.

(02:31):
No, okay, all right.
How about the only podcastdedicated to 1987's Beauty and
the Beast?

SPEAKER_02 (02:37):
Yeah, there we go.
The mini-series, yeah, I've seenthat mini-series.

SPEAKER_01 (02:41):
Yep.
Yep.
Where he looks like a lion.
So 1987's Beauty and the Beast.
That's what we're all about.
That's what we're all about.
Practical effects are good.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
Um, I actually wound up uhwatching uh the original Conan

(03:03):
recently with uh fucking ArnoldSchwarzenegger.
And uh I was looking at some oflike the stunts and practical
effects and that.
I've been on the Dark Fantasykick recently, and I I've
watched uh Excalibur, I'vewatched uh Legend with Tim
Curry, I've watched um likeWolves Among U.
Like I've watched so muchfucking Dark Fantasy, it's all

(03:26):
fucking trash, and then today Iwatched the original Conan with
Schwarzenegger, and I'm like, Iget it, I get it.
I give this movie a solid B, butthis is the first good Dark
Fantasy movie from the 80s I'vefucking seen.
Um, and did you practical DeathStalker in your uh I did it that
the it made me sick, it made mefucking sick with all the sexual

(03:49):
assault?
Oh my god, oh my god, DeathStalkers uh they saw Conan and
were like, Well, let's get thetitties and the swords, and
that's what people want, right?
Not world building, not anythinglike that, just sexual assault.
That's what people want, right?
And nope, but they made five ofthem.

SPEAKER_02 (04:09):
So did did you see that they made um they
essentially rebooted DeathShocker and they just put it
they just put it out.
I haven't seen it yet, though.
I haven't either.

SPEAKER_01 (04:19):
Oh, it's already been released.
Oh shit.
Yeah, I I'm actually hearinggood things though.
I'm hearing good things, likethey were.

SPEAKER_02 (04:24):
Maybe they pulled less less SA and more world
building.
That's all that they needed.
They had they were on the thecusp of greatness back then.

SPEAKER_01 (04:35):
Yeah.
Well, believe it or not, folksat home, we're not actually a
podcast about Beauty and theBeast.
That was simply a ruse.
And the Dark Fantasy stuff wasyet another ruse.

SPEAKER_02 (04:45):
Well, all of my notes are on the Beauty and the
Beast, so uh.

SPEAKER_01 (04:50):
Also a clever ruse.
This week we're actually gonnabe talking about the film Good
Fortune.
Uh came out uh a couple weeksago.
This one featuring uh SethRogan, Keanu Reeves, Azizon,
sorry.
Um we're gonna break it downthree parts, guaranteed to you
know give you your podcast bangfor the buck.
First off, we're gonna rate thisthing, the definitive score out

(05:12):
of five stars.
Then we're gonna jump onto ourgolden path and really dive into
the deeper meanings of this.
I feel like this particularmovie is gonna bring out our
anarch side.
Um, and then finally, we'regoing to insert ourselves drugs
or alcohol into the film.
But what makes us so special, sogreat, so fun, is we're gonna be
doing it drunk and high.

(05:32):
So, fellas, uh, what are you uhwhat are you drinking this uh
sorry, what are you smoking thisweekend?
I'm the drinker.
I've already been drinkingtoday, so bear with me.
Great, perfect.

SPEAKER_02 (05:43):
I don't know.
It's whatever was in my grinder.
Uh cave.
I don't know what it's probablygelato.
I have no idea though.
Funny, because mine is gelato.
Oh, nice.
Perfect segue.

SPEAKER_01 (06:00):
Well, I'll be joining you boys with smoke
wagon.
This is a full strength,straight bourbon whiskey, no
water added.

SPEAKER_02 (06:13):
What the fuck does full strength mean?

SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
Um, it's uh it's but this is from Las Vegas.
This is a Las Vegas bourbon.
This is Remy.
Um and the uh the proof at thebottom here is written with a
permanent marker.

SPEAKER_02 (06:27):
It's not real bourbon if it's from Las Vegas.
It's just sparkling whiskey.
Yeah, it's just sparklingwhiskey.

SPEAKER_01 (06:39):
That was a solid one.

SPEAKER_03 (06:40):
Yes, I'll be drinking uh good.

SPEAKER_01 (06:43):
That was really good.
I'll be just drinking Las Vegassparkling whiskey.
Um 118 horsepower, 118horsepower.
So this will get me fucked.

SPEAKER_02 (06:55):
Oh fuck, that one tickles.
That was a good one, James.
That one fucking good.
That was really good, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (07:03):
Oh fuck.
So line them up, fellas.
Let's take our first toasts,first shots, first hits.
Ooh, this one is going to go outto our newest listeners, um,
which we actually have quite afew.
Um, so that's pretty cool.

(07:25):
I've been enjoying seeing uhthat this podcast is hitting
listeners, and you know, if youare one of those It's hitting
our listeners, it's hitting themhard, like in the fucking face.
Our listeners like it, they'reinto it.

SPEAKER_02 (07:39):
They're into that.
Okay, I can get with that.
I don't kink shame.

SPEAKER_01 (07:43):
No, but we're uh we're seeing a lot of action,
and I'm excited to see it.
But our newest listeners, theseones are from and we got a few.
Um so we got uh Rodistro SaoPaulo, we got Al Mansura of
D'Acalia.

SPEAKER_02 (08:01):
So Sao Paulo would be Brazil.
I I don't know where Dacalia is,though.
We have Walsall.
I was already impressed that yougot one of them, James.
So Brisbane of Bishop.
Uh that's Australia.
So so what was the what was thethird one you said, Ryan?

SPEAKER_00 (08:19):
Uh it's not that Itaporonga of Gauss, uh Registro
of Sao Paul, um I don't know.
Almansura of Decalia.
Okay.
Melbourne, Victoria, Pat Not.

SPEAKER_02 (08:36):
Oh, a couple that's a couple different regions of
Australia.

SPEAKER_03 (08:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (08:40):
Uh Silhari of West Bengal.
Um and then North Bangles.
So yeah.
We're we're seeing uh stuff allover North America.
Um so hey.
Um welcome to the new age.
Yeah, cheers to all of our newlisteners.
Welcome back.
Cheers to all of our newlisteners.

SPEAKER_02 (08:57):
Cheers to all of our VPN users.

SPEAKER_00 (08:59):
That's obviously VPNs.
Uh, because if you're listeningto Well, we appreciate that.
Yeah, you probably shouldn't letthe government know.
So cheers.
Cheers to Antifa.

SPEAKER_01 (09:09):
Oh, God.
Yeah, for all of our Antifalisteners, the sheep stalks at
midnight.
I repeat, the sheep stalks atmidnight.

SPEAKER_02 (09:17):
Uh never uh never known a sheep to stalk.
That was a covenant.
To be a hunt the sheep thathunts.

SPEAKER_01 (09:25):
That's what we are, the sheep that hunts.

SPEAKER_02 (09:28):
Ryan's from a weird part of the United States where
the sheep are very hyperbloodthirst that hunts.

SPEAKER_01 (09:37):
That's pretty apropos, honestly.
That's that's pretty solid.

SPEAKER_02 (09:41):
It's actually because where he's from, it's
just a bunch of wolves dressedas sheep, and he just associates
those wolves with with uh withsheep.

SPEAKER_01 (09:48):
So honestly, I think I'm making our new high and dry
podcast shirts, uh, antique forthe sheep that hunts.

SPEAKER_02 (09:56):
Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 (09:58):
Uh yeah, so we're that kind of podcast.
Um it's a good thing you're allusing VPNs.
Um, so our second toast, secondshot, line them up, boys.
This one goes after the filmthis week.
Good fortune.
Cheers.

SPEAKER_02 (10:16):
Speaking of dark fantasy and uh you know
practical effects.
Yeah, I like the practic I likedthe practical wings in this one.

SPEAKER_01 (10:24):
I didn't it added to it.
It added to it.
I was I was happy to see a lotof it.
I was happy to see a lot of it,but we'll get into that in a
moment.

SPEAKER_02 (10:35):
So I liked how the the wings were symbolic of their
power.

SPEAKER_01 (10:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, our uh final toast, finalshot, final hit.
Um I I guess this one just goesout to practical effects.
Small wings, and you assumepower, I suppose.

SPEAKER_02 (10:54):
We love power, we love practical effects here.

SPEAKER_01 (10:57):
Here's the practical effects.
Cheers.
Well I'm excited to jump intothis one.
I I I I have I have a prettystrong feeling um about a lot of

(11:17):
where it's gonna go, but uh I'mexcited nonetheless.
Um let's see what happens.
So part one, let's rate thisfilm, the definitive rating out
of five, guaranteed to get youtrue results.
Remember always, Fandango, uh abunch of pieces of shit.
And IMDB, garbage, yeah, RottenTomatoes.

SPEAKER_02 (11:40):
None of them know what they're doing.

SPEAKER_01 (11:41):
None of them, none of them.
Um don't trust Amazon Prime.
No, that's the worst of all ofthem.
Of all of them.
We've already beat back Bezos'assassins, so we could say that
now with impunity.

SPEAKER_02 (11:55):
I think it's what, like ten times now?

SPEAKER_01 (11:57):
Yeah, easily.
Easily.
Honestly, they're just sopathetic at this point.
I stopped counting.
Um, I like grip their wrist anddrop the pistol out of it and
slowly press a screwdriver intohis lobe.
Um, like again.

SPEAKER_02 (12:11):
They always have piss bottles with them because
they can't take a break.
It's it's gross.

SPEAKER_01 (12:16):
That's probably why I keep winning, is because the
dude is so desperate for thebathroom.
I just get him as he's runningfor my toilet.
Well, um, so uh who wants tostart this one?
Let's rate this thing.
Uh Luke, uh, you want to gofirst?

SPEAKER_02 (12:31):
Yeah, I can kick it off.
So this is uh comedy filmwritten uh directed by Aziz and
Zari.
Um so he kind of started anddirected in the movie.
Um and it's essentially about umif uh these two gentlemen who
switch lives, the angel whofeels like it'll show Aziz and
Zari his uh the the airs of hislife, um, and that his life

(12:54):
isn't so bad, but when uhobviously like we are well
aware, money fix it does fix alot of problems, and that's what
uh you know kind of where itgoes.
So with that being said, I um Ikind of knew from the previews
that I would enjoy this movie,um, but I definitely just knew
it wasn't gonna be anything thatwas like um I don't know.

(13:15):
Like there was not gonna beanything past what you see kind
of in the preview.
You really understand what thismovie's gonna be about from that
from that two-minute trailerthat you see.
So yeah, seriously.
Yeah, you're like, okay, cool,got it.
Like, but with that being said,I still found it very enjoyable.
And I I found that the storylike at least had some sort of

(13:38):
depth, and I think that theykind of showed some um, you
know, the concept of like lifehas a lot of different meanings
and and things that make itworth living.
Um, and I I like that concept,obviously.
You know, it's sometimes it'shard to watch rich assholes
making fun of rich assholes.
Um, because like at the end ofthe day, all these guys are rich
and they're kind of playing likethese they're playing the poor

(14:01):
man, and it's like you're not afucking poor guy.
Like, you don't like I'mlaughing at these jokes because
I I've been there.
Like, I've literally when theywere talking about the cars
getting towed and like, oh,you're gonna pay this.
I was I had that happen.
It was two grand for me to getmy car back, and then it was
gonna be 150.

SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
I I've been left on the side of the road.

SPEAKER_02 (14:21):
Yeah, so we've all we've all been there, so like
it's sometimes hard to watchthat.
But I will say that I did likethe concept of the you know,
life, you know, and Keanu Reevesat least is someone who's at
least shown in a positivespotlight in Hollywood.
He seems like a relativelydecent human being.
Um so him portraying it made iteasier to swallow.
Because if it was somebody thatwas like a known asshole, like a

(14:42):
known rich asshole, I like itwouldn't have even been
palatable, genuinely.
It would have been like so.
The casting was important inthis movie.
So acting, I ended up um, I likeI said, kind of middle of the
road.
I gave it a 3.5.
Um, I think Keanu Reeves did doexceptionally well.
Um, and his like his uhignorance of how humans live and

(15:02):
just like him experiencing lifefor the first time and
experiencing tacos and dancing,and I'm like, oh, he's it he's
into the Latins.
I'm like, I get it, I've beenthere.
You know, I when I discoveredtacos and dancing with Latin
women for the first time, too.
I I fell in love myself.
I was like, life isn't that bad.
All right, yeah, I couldn't paymy car payment last month, but
you know, it's it's not thatbad.

SPEAKER_01 (15:22):
Tacos on the ts.

SPEAKER_02 (15:25):
So so yeah, but I did, I thought he did well, but
not everybody like was standout,and I don't necessarily think
this was a movie to giveeveryone standout, so I gave it
a 3.5.
Um the cinematography, again,it's it's kind of in the middle
for me.
It's not anything there wasnothing bad about it, but there
it is.
Truly, I don't remember onesingle shot where I was like,

(15:45):
wow, that was cool.
None zero, not not nothing inthe movie where I really, really
um pulled from the movie, and Iwas like, that's the only one
that I guess I saw was what itwas like a low angle shot of a Z
Zanzari when Kiki Palmer wasstanding over him on the dance
floor.
Um, and I don't know why I Idon't even know if it fit the
scene, but I liked the shotbecause it made Kiki like in

(16:06):
this like almost position ofpower, like even though he is a
rich guy, like he's like stilldefenseless to this pretty I
don't know, like it was the onlything that actually like made me
think anything.
So I gave it a 3.5.
Um score soundtrack.
I actually kind of liked thescore and soundtrack.
Um there was nothing there'snothing iconic.
They're using songs that arealready made and stuff, but I

(16:27):
think it fit mood and it was agood time.
Like some of the dance scenes Ienjoyed, like the disco, like
when he's stealing the dance.
Like that was like it was thethe music kept a good energy.
I gave it a 3.5 as well.
Are you guys sensing a trendhere?
Yeah, it seems pretty prettymiddling.
Pretty middly.
Yeah.
Um, but then from there, I uhdid give the story a four.

(16:50):
And the reason being is I thinklike it was kind of fun and it
it made me laugh.
It's a comedy, and that's likewhat it's meant to do.
Um, and there was points where Idid laugh.
I I associated with some ofthose like sentiments and and
things, and just like it'sfunny.
Like, I was a service worker,and just like seeing fucking
Gabriel experience being aservice worker, but from the

(17:11):
perspective of someone who'snever got to experience it life
and who's really appreciatingthe small things, it was kind of
cool because like there werepoints in my life where I was
man, I was struggling verydeeply struggling, but I don't
remember being fully miserable.
Like there were points where Iwas upset and obviously had bad
days, but like there was alsoreally good days when I was with
friends and experience, youknow, we were were experiencing

(17:33):
life.
Um, but I gave it a four.
And then the rewatchability,it's not, you know, it's such a
middling movie, it's hard to saythat I'll ever like actively put
this one on.
Um, but as we always say,there's like scenarios where I
would watch this again.
Um, so I don't think it can getlike low, low.
And I did enjoy it enough wherelike I'm not actively arguing

(17:54):
against it.
It's not like everyone has toput like if someone was like put
it on, I'd be like, Yeah, let'ssee.
Oh, you haven't seen that yet?
Let's watch it.
Like it's it's funny, like it'sa good good watch.
Um you should put it on wheneveryou're trying to convince some
people to go out for tacosbecause they showed tacos like
10 fucking times, and then assoon as we got up, I was like,

(18:15):
We gotta go eat.
I need some fucking streak.
And we went we went immediately,went immediately to get Tijuana
style tacos.

SPEAKER_01 (18:23):
Yeah.
Well, I I wish I didn't haveAlpha Gal, and I wish I wasn't
on a diet because I would havefucked up some tacos.

SPEAKER_02 (18:29):
They were they were I loved the last scene where
they did leave the taco, and Ilike Cam literally almost cried
over it.
I was like, Yeah, that was thatwas nice.
Like he left, but it was such anice like the shot of that taco
at that scene.
I was like, damn, raising intothe air.
Are they selling us tacos?
That's so funny.
This I think this is mostly paidfor by Big Taco.

(18:52):
Big Taco Corporation.
God damn it, they got it.

SPEAKER_01 (18:54):
And that's the thing about Big Taco is that they've
always like back in the 90s andthe early 2000s, we forgave Taco
Bell putting sawdust into tacosbecause of big taco propaganda.
And it's traditional, yeah.
And like, fuck it, I'll have achalupa.

(19:15):
That's how they make it fucknow.
I'll tear Chalupa live.
And that's because of Big Taco.

SPEAKER_02 (19:22):
100%.
Well, what what about you, Ryan?
What did you think of the movie?

SPEAKER_01 (19:27):
If you so this movie, so I'm I'm I have a lot
to say when we jump on thegolden path, because this movie
This movie pissed me off to nofucking end.

SPEAKER_02 (19:41):
I felt it was a battle a little bit.
I I agree.

SPEAKER_01 (19:45):
But when I left the theater, I it it took everything
in me uh not to be like fuckinglike kicking over a trash can
and burn down the theater.
I I was burning down thetheater, I was so mad.
I was so mad because well, I'llget into the golden path.
What I'll say right now, uh interms of my overall, was that it

(20:09):
was so um empathetic, but RabbitIt was so empathetic.
My dog was ripping up a carpet,but it was so empathetic, but
lacked any sense of cool, youunderstand what I'm going

(20:32):
through, but what the fuck areyou gonna do?
Agreed, yeah.
Um that's yeah.
So but but it feels more likepity at that point.

SPEAKER_02 (20:41):
It's no longer I I felt like a Zan Sari was a very
good thing.

SPEAKER_01 (20:44):
Because they don't they yeah, uh, but but that
that's for the golden path.
Uh you know, that's when youknow this is gonna turn into a
you know fucking terroristpodcast in the second half.

SPEAKER_02 (20:56):
But um we do we are not a terrorist podcast.
I would like to just make thatstatement, guys.

SPEAKER_01 (21:01):
I'm I'm an independent terrorist, um but um
I would say so acting.
I felt that this was the firsttime that any film had said we
need Kiana Reeves, and they wereso fucking right.

SPEAKER_02 (21:26):
I agree, the casting was perfect with him.

SPEAKER_01 (21:28):
I do he will like we're we're we need a we need a
guy who just can't quite acthuman.
Yeah, that's true, and itfucking crushed.
Um I I say give the fucking OsOscar to Keanu.

(21:49):
Everyone else in like Seth Roganwas Seth Rogan, you know, we're
always be like like Zensariwasn't Zensari, like they very
much were playing the standardcharacter scene, but then Keanu
Reeves was cast into a role thatrequired Keanu Reeves.
Yeah.
Um like we could have recastAzizansari as anyone.

(22:12):
We could have recast Seth Roganas anyone, but Keanu Reeves was
made for this role.

SPEAKER_02 (22:21):
Agreed.

SPEAKER_01 (22:21):
Um, and for that I give the acting a four out of
five.
Um cinematography, um nothingwas you know, nothing was like,
oh, that's a beautiful shot, oryou know, uh they obviously
brought down cinematography totry and tell this story that, in

(22:46):
my opinion, needs to be told.

SPEAKER_02 (22:48):
And it's a simple, straightforward story, and I
think that that's it's veryclear with its intentions.
Like it is Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (22:55):
I I I felt the story needs to be told.
I felt that it's gonna touch alot of people in this country,
specifically those who can'tafford to go and see a movie.
Um, so that's another thing I'mgonna talk about in the uh the
golden path.
Um so cinematography, it did itsjob.

(23:18):
It captured everything it neededto capture.
It did it in a competent way.
For that, I give it a 3.5.
Um score and soundtrack, I'mgonna have to agree um with Luke
entirely.
Um that it was it was good.
And it did its job.
So 3.5.

(23:39):
Um the story and plot.
Solid.
Um, very, very strong.
Um, it said a lot of things thatneed to be said, but maybe not
as powerfully as they needed tobe said.
Um I'm speaking specifically touh when Seth Rogan is saying

(24:00):
there's more of them than us.
And it is like I felt like atthat point he was kind of just
tossing me a fucking bone.
And for that scene specifically,when the revolution comes, I
will dine on the corpse of SethRogan.

SPEAKER_02 (24:17):
But that would be delicious.
But personally, and I I wasgonna say this more toward that,
but I think that it should havebeen more of a story because
they kind of let me talk aboutthis in the yeah, golden pat.

SPEAKER_01 (24:29):
Golden Pat.
Seth Rogan, your days arefucking numbered, and this is
coming from Antifa.
Um But uh story and plot, it itwas a story that is relevant,
that needs to be given.
Like if Homer was sitting arounda campfire, this is something

(24:52):
that needed to be said for thistime period.
So for that I give it a four.
And rewatchability, this moviepisses me off to my deepest
fucking like internal soul.
I will rewatch it if I need to.
So, like, what is that?
Like a three, two?

SPEAKER_02 (25:10):
I was gonna say a two, probably.
Two?
I give it a two.
Okay.
Alright, so so we got Ryan'sdown.
I'm gonna speedrun mine becauseeverybody wants to talk about
the implications of the movie.
So acting 3.5.
Everybody's already saideverything about the acting.
Cinematography, I mean, KikiPalmer was good in it.

(25:31):
No one's really mentioned her,but she but yeah, everyone was
good.
Uh cinematography, mmm.
I actually do agree that KikiPalmer was pretty like pretty
solid in it as well.
And I don't think they're yeah.
It's just because everyone wasalright.
Yeah.
Uh every everyone was solid.
Uh Cinematography, mmm.

(25:53):
3.5.
Score and soundtrack, I don'tremember it.
3.5.
Story and plot, uh yeah, I Ifelt like I felt like they they
shared a lot of really necessaryinformation about what it's like
to struggle financially in theUnited States in the 21st

(26:13):
century.
And they uh but yeah, they kindof left some problematic things
at the end.
Like, what happens when AzizAnsari like quit quits his job
and like can't find another one?
He says he's gonna go piss offor whatever, and all the people
quit.
Yeah, they're gonna, they'rejust what are they gonna do?
They're just going back to whatthey like what they left.

(26:37):
There's nothing there.
Um, and so that that kind of thewhen a when a movie doesn't end
very well, it kind of bragbrings a lot down.
Um so I really think that's likea 3.5 again.

SPEAKER_01 (26:52):
And and I'll I'll say this again the goal, like
because just because I'llprobably forget half.
Because we're well, we haveanother we have another shot to
take, but like the ending wasjust based on this thought,
like, hey, it eventually worksout, homie.
Don't worry.

SPEAKER_02 (27:07):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm I uh you know hadtrouble with certain parts of
this movie that made me anxious,or uh, you know, I I enjoyed and
then laughed a lot of the movietoo because I I found it very
relatable.
Um I was like kind of a personalassistant to a guy for a time,

(27:29):
and it definitely reminded me ofthat, and it sucked ass.
And uh he he wanted me to dig afucking ditch on one of his
properties, and I was like, I'mnot gonna do that.
And and so that was the end ofthat relationship.

SPEAKER_01 (27:43):
Uh well, just on that point, just on that point,
if I may, because I'm gonnaforget it in a minute.
We have another shot.
Um, I I I have uh a previousrelationship who worked for one
of these rich people, and I wason their property of you know
marble stone of fucking moat andriver that ran through their Las

(28:06):
Vegas property, and I walk intohis office where there's Ayn
Rand quotes stapled onto thewall, and it's just are you
fucking kidding me?

SPEAKER_02 (28:19):
Well, that's how you know they're it's a cultural
group that they're in, andthat's how they maintain their
wealth.
Exactly.
Uh but yeah, so I probably won'tre-watch this movie very much.
Uh probably like it too, becauseit was distressing.
Um yeah, maybe I'll watch itagain.
Who knows?
So what do we got, Luke?

(28:40):
A grand total of 3.5 out offive.
Surprise, surprise.
Yeah.
I felt it would land.
A competent movie that wasenjoyable, but like, you know,
not nothing that wasrevolutionary, like as a film.
That's the problem is it was notrevolutionary in the end.

SPEAKER_01 (28:59):
Exactly.
And what makes High and Dry soincredible and so credible is
that our ratings are alwaysright.

SPEAKER_02 (29:11):
Yeah, no matter what.

SPEAKER_01 (29:13):
When we start discussing it, we know where
this is gonna land because oursystem is flawless.

SPEAKER_02 (29:20):
Yeah.
And if we're ever wrong, thenwhen we revise it, that's
correct, also.
If we're ever wrong, we're rightup until the point where we
change it.
I actually just changed my Ijust changed my K-pop demon
hunter mo uh score because I waslike, I think I rated this too
harshly.
It doesn't matter.
Well, you were you were rightright up until you changed the

(29:41):
score, and then you were right.
You were right.
You were right the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 (29:45):
Because culture shifts, culture changes.

SPEAKER_02 (29:48):
Yeah, I mean it it was the the album went platinum.
I had to go adjust thesoundtrack score to a five.
It got a four point, it neededit needed its true five out of
five.
It is iconic.

SPEAKER_01 (29:59):
You you were correct the entire time, Lou.
Do not worry about that.
Do not do not for a second worrythat you were wrong.
Chef's kiss, perfect.

SPEAKER_02 (30:10):
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, you're live like live likeSeth Rogan and And be right.
Always.
Yeah, and just assume you'reright.
Everything you say is right.
Everything's right.

SPEAKER_01 (30:20):
You're on high and dry, baby.
You are correct.
So, with that being said, highand dry was always correct.
It is time to move into thesecond portion of this podcast.
It is time now for the goldenpath.
Let's delve into the deepermysteries of this film.
Let's show the world why we arethe terrorist organization that

(30:44):
Trump claims we are.
No.
No.
Line up your final shot, finaltoast, final hit of the night.
Here is to culturalsocioeconomic inequality.
Here is to surviving thatbullshit.
For everyone who has ever beenon the side of the road when a

(31:05):
cop took your car away and youjust did not have money to get
it back.
For everyone who's ever sleep intheir car, for everyone who has
dealt with a rich person whodoesn't understand, this one is
to you.

SPEAKER_02 (31:16):
Cheers.
Yeah, after dealing with thatrich person, I ended up working
as an overnight security guardin a truck, a truck lot.
I remember that.
I remember that.
Remy.
Remy, my love.
All I had to protect myself wasa tire thumper.

(31:37):
I was like, uh yeah, yeah, it'swild.

SPEAKER_01 (31:40):
Wild times.
For the folks at home, here'sRemy.
The unofficial fourth member ofthe podcast because I can't kill
him.
Tried.
Tried.
I tried.
I drowned him in a tub.
He came back the next day.
Fucking Stephen King animals.

(32:01):
God damn it.
Animal style.
Thank you, Remy.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I have to finish my podcast,baby.
Alright, there we go.
So alright.
It isn't time now for the It'stime for the second part of this
podcast.
It is time to jump onto thegolden path.

SPEAKER_02 (32:21):
The path that's golden.
I'm down.

SPEAKER_01 (32:23):
The path that is golden.
What are the deeper thoughts ofthis podcast?
And I feel like there's a ton.
Um we're a bunch of millennialswho probably really identified
with this fucking movie.
And it probably pissed us off.
So what do we got?

(32:44):
What happened?

SPEAKER_02 (32:46):
So I have to uh it's been on the tip of my tongue.
I've been chomping at the bit.
The I hate the way this movieended.
And the reason being is becauseit made it seem like, oh, the
rich guy learns a lesson andhe's gonna figure it out and
save the people, and itshouldn't have been portrayed
that way.
I liked the fact that he walkedout.
Yes, it was like a poordecision, but it is I think it's

(33:07):
just like taking the suit ofhaving to drive change, which I
kind of liked, that symbolicgesture.
But the fact that they made therich guy a like kind of a hero
in the end is bullshit.
Yes.
Um, I would have much, much,much preferred them portray him
as a villain and just go backright to his back to his old
ways, because that's how it'dgo, because they're pieces of
shit, and that's how they wouldact, um, and just go right back

(33:31):
to it, and then the fucking allthe the robots literally like
fuck him because they like losecoding and stuff, and like they
lose like a million dollars aday, and then uh they the
workers end up having to fightfor their rights, and because
they have so much leverage,because the robots have fucked
up, that's why they're able todrive change, but it's not
because the CEO wanted it tohappen.
Um, people are just gonna startdestroying the robots, it

(33:53):
already started happening.
Yeah, people people pry open therobots and take food out of
them.
Yeah, like it's no, we haven't,but I I I read an article about
it.
Well, yeah, the three of ushaven't, but there's that's what
it sounded like was that wepersonally have broken into food

(34:13):
robots.
But no, I I just I I hated thefact that they finished it like
that because that's just likeyou know, I love you know, I
love a pretty bow and uhwhatever, but I feel like that
was the difference of likereally making this a fucking,
you know, like a point in astory versus like everything

(34:36):
works out.

SPEAKER_01 (34:37):
But the point of that food robot was there was an
article where the food robot wassent out from Canada, it
survived all of Canada, and thesecond it hit the United States,
it was fucking destroyed androbbed.
Like because we we are 50 thirdworld countries in a trench boat

(34:58):
pretending to be a first worldcountry.
Yeah, it's free wild.

SPEAKER_02 (35:04):
And I do, but yeah, I just I'm I did not like a nice
tight-knit bow on top top of thestory because it was not you
know, it like you said, it wasdifficult to watch.
It does piss you off.
Like throughout the movie,you're like, oh my god, like so
mad.
Yeah, you're like so fuckingmad.
You're like, I'm sick and tired,because it is bullshit.
It's not the fact, and likeAzizan Sari says, I don't want,

(35:26):
and you know, this is somethingit was a hard pill to swallow
coming from someone who I knowis well off.
Um, was the line where theysaid, like, um, I am um I I
don't I didn't want to be rich,I just wanted enough to like be
comfortable and get by.
And that's a sentiment that Iknow I've felt deeply
personally, where I'm like, God,I don't I'm not trying to be

(35:47):
rich.
I just wanna I just wanna beable to cover all my bills and
and you know have a little bitof fun with friends and and shit
like that.

SPEAKER_01 (35:54):
I just want the fucking life that my parents
had.

SPEAKER_02 (35:57):
Yeah.
So in a it is a hard pill toswallow.
You want to be a slove lord?
Not my parents, the parents ofeveryone else.
You're talking about what theAmerican dream look, look, look.

SPEAKER_01 (36:11):
My my father was just part of the Gestapo of the.
Oh, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (36:15):
He didn't he didn't own anything, he was just the
thug.
He was the thug, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it uh it definitely.

SPEAKER_01 (36:27):
But it's let's get your facts straight.

SPEAKER_02 (36:33):
But it did make it hard to uh watch it coming from
somebody who is rich and welloff.
But I did like again that thatsentiment, and I feel like they
did bring across some of thosethings that like uh so many
people have felt.
It's just again, Hollywood is anindustry where it's they're
very, very, you know, it'sthere's a lot of money going
around um in Hollywood.

(36:54):
And I understand that you know,there's writers not being paid
well, and there's actors noteven being paid fair wages and
um all sorts of differentthings.
How you know it's still it likethe rich assholes that we're
worried about, the ones who areon the board, the guy that um
I'm sorry, what's his oh hisname is Seth Rogan.
Seth Rogen, but I I would hischaracter Jeff.

(37:14):
Um yeah, the guy that Jeff'sportraying the you know, this
board, like those are the piecesof shit.
Like we're talking about likehyper rich scumbags.
Don't get me wrong.

SPEAKER_01 (37:24):
I'm definitely not worried about Seth Rogan.

SPEAKER_02 (37:26):
Yeah, like like a Zanzari and Seth Rogan, yes,
they they you know make goodmoney, they're actors, blah,
blah, blah.
But I don't think they're thethe true, true problem with this
fucking the world.
They've just been well off.
Like, yeah, we're talking aboutpeople who are hyper
billionaires, like the fuckingrich.
Like and Seth Rogan is not goingto have an ayahuasca trip and
learn a lesson.

(37:46):
What's gonna happen is that he'she's when all these people are
starving in the street, whathe's gonna do is he's gonna pump
a bunch of money into privatesecurity robots so that if
anyone tries to attack him,they're just gonna get blasted
down by unthinking machines.
Yep.
And and that's how society'sgonna change.
They're not gonna they're notgonna care about us.

(38:07):
Yeah, they're not he he's neverdepressing.
That's why at the end of themovie I hate it where they're
like, hey, you changed.
No, he didn't.
He doesn't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_01 (38:14):
Just on that point.
I'm on that point.
Seth Roger.
It's like undercover boss.
So for whatever reason, SethRogan, you listen to this
podcast.
Your role in good fortune, whenthe revolution comes, I will
find you.
Oh, you're gonna get Seth Roganbecause of this role?

(38:36):
Because of good fortune.
Because like you you claim tounderstand, but you didn't
change your lifestyle.

SPEAKER_02 (38:45):
I don't know if it was supposed to be an appeal to
the rich who can't who need tothink it's their idea.
I don't know if that's maybewhat they were going for, but it
feels pretty changeless.

SPEAKER_01 (38:58):
Which scares me because that I think that's why
I left the theater so angry isbecause everyone involved in
this film was pretending uh hey,and and I uh honestly, there I'm
happy that this happened becauseit shows us that we are not

(39:22):
divided by race, creed, anythinglike that.
We are divided by class.
Yeah.
And we just watched a work ofart, essentially, portrayed and
perpetrated by the class aboveus when the revolution comes,
they all need to die.

(39:44):
And it made me sick.

SPEAKER_02 (39:46):
Unless they give up all unless they give up their
their position.
If they give up their position,they're totally super cool.
Like, great, join us, you know.
Let's all be here.
Welcome to the party.

SPEAKER_01 (39:59):
Welcome to the party.
Keanu, I knew you're gonna behere.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 (40:03):
But but all these executive executives are not
going to agree to that.
No, they're gonna flee to othercountries.
It's what happens when they gointo a place and ruin
everybody's lives and then getdriven out.
It's happened all over theworld, like hundreds of times.
Yeah, where people and I cannotwait to dine on their flesh.

(40:27):
They get to be really cruel andterrible and overly greedy
instead of having agreement.
Um, you know, philosophically,ideologically, I think it's fair
to want to promote equality.
You know, it's a good it's agood idea to want to promote

(40:47):
fairness of outcome.
A lot of times people talk aboutthat as like it's like the
cardinal sin of like individual,rugged individualism is the idea
of an equal outcome becausethey're like, oh, well, you
know, uh unequal work, equaloutcome, that won't that'll make
it so that people don't want towork any any harder.

(41:07):
You know, they don't want toinnovate and stuff.
And it's like, no, that's nottrue.
Like people, when people areinterested in doing things and
their brains are working, theywill innovate in stuff,
especially when they feel likemore comfortable.
When when when people feel morecomfortable, they allow their
minds to expand instead of beingworried about stupid little
shit, and that's when weinnovate.
But the rugged individualismideology is one that is

(41:31):
primarily pushed by rich peopleand is followed by people who
are presenting themselves to befucked by these rich people, you
know, they're they're buyinginto it and supporting it when
they really should not be.
It is against their interests.

SPEAKER_01 (41:49):
Exactly.
And and that's that was like theI walked out of this film angry
because I I watched a bunch ofpeople who are getting checks
signed by the people that weneed to murder in a film that

(42:11):
was describing how theyvictimize us.
And it it it was just soupsetting.
It was so upsetting, especiallyfrom Aziz Ansari, because I know
he came from immigrant parentsof Muslims, and well, I don't
know if they were Muslim.

SPEAKER_02 (42:32):
They definitely uh I think I I know he's Indian, but
there are people who are Indianwho are Hind.
The majority of Indians areHindu.

SPEAKER_01 (42:41):
No, Aziz Ansari's parents were Muslim.
They're yeah, and I didn't knowthat.
He he himself identifies asnon-religious now.
Um, and but the the problem Ihave is like Aziz, you came from
us.

SPEAKER_02 (43:01):
Um Well, his his parents were doctors.
It's kind of it's kind of thepoint they made in the movie
about Zebrogan's character,about his dad was an orthopedic
surgeon.
So he's on sorry, comes from twodoctor parents.

SPEAKER_01 (43:17):
That's why that's why I left this film so angry.
Because the message was what weneed to hear, but it came off
hollow.
Um if this was given to us bymaybe an independent director,
if this was given to us bysomeone who truly understood,

(43:39):
you know, someone like NzizAnsari was fucking chewed up
during the Me Too movement.
He had allegations.
Um and and I was also confusedby that.
Like, I thought we were donewith Nziz.
Like he uh was very sexuallyaggressive to a young woman that

(44:00):
he took on a date, and then I'mwatching a movie about him on
first dates.
It's like, no.
Yeah.
Um, no.
And I think that's that is whythis movie gets a 3.5, is
because we're watching richpeople pretend to be us.

SPEAKER_02 (44:19):
Yeah.
Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 (44:29):
Exactly.
Exactly.
And it's like, Aziz, I have notforgotten that in 2018 that
woman claimed you're sexuallyaggressive, um, and that you
spent the next four years tryingto say that you're sorry.
Um, and then you put out a movieabout us poor people, um, when

(44:53):
you yourself are a child ofdoctors, and it's and so, and
that's why I get like themessage was good, but the people
who put it out and what theyrepresent themselves, it came
out hollow.
You don't know what it's like tobe us.
And so for that, I I give thismovie two middle fingers out of

(45:17):
two middle fingers.

SPEAKER_02 (45:19):
Wow, that's the most middle fingers any movie's
gotten.
Seth Rogan actually came fromnothing.
His parents were like a socialworker, and the other one worked
at a nonprofit, and and he hadhe had like financial
instability in his youth.

SPEAKER_01 (45:34):
Then it's really that actually and what's weird
is that I keep coming well.
So like Seth Rogan completelydivorced himself from uh um
Franco.
Yeah.
When all those things happened,and Seth Rogen is the one in
this movie who's saying there'smore of them than us, and

(45:58):
they're eventually gonna kill usall.
Yeah.
Um, so if that's the case, I'mhappy for it, and I think that's
why that movie got a 3.5 insteadof a 2.

SPEAKER_02 (46:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (46:08):
Um, because at least he did say the thing.
Because it at least one of themunderstood.
I believe the Keanu doesunderstand.
I think I was gonna say that.
I I think the Keanu, though, I Ithink he's undiagnosed on the
spectrum, and I hope heeventually, you know.
Uh I think he's fine.

(46:29):
Um I think he's doing great.

SPEAKER_02 (46:31):
I think he's having a good great time.

SPEAKER_01 (46:33):
I think I think Keanu's great.
Um, he's the highest performingof all Sling Blades.

SPEAKER_02 (46:40):
Um yeah, he looks homeless.
I don't think he is, though.

SPEAKER_01 (46:44):
I think he's probably doing fine.
Well, I also know that he wentthrough a lot.
I know that he went through alot.
Uh, and every like relationshipthat he gets into, he's he's one
of us.
And I will unless he's asufferer.
He's a sufferer.
He's a sufferer.
So here's to him.

SPEAKER_02 (47:03):
You know, it's actually the trick of Keanu's
face is that you you can it'slike the good boy juxtaposition,
where because there's no changein the features, whatever you
put him next to, he fits in.
Just like in the matrix.
It's just juxtaposition, sowe're ascribing whatever we want
to Keanu Reeves.

SPEAKER_01 (47:25):
Keanu Reeves is the mirror.

SPEAKER_02 (47:29):
Oh, yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (47:31):
Yeah.
Well, hey, here's to him.
Yeah, cheers.

SPEAKER_02 (47:36):
Um I'll I'll line it up.

SPEAKER_01 (47:39):
Yeah, here's one to Keanu Reeves, here's to the
mirror, and I think that's whatRich Boy Aziz understood was
that I need a mirror because I'mobviously a piece of shit.
So here's Keanu.

SPEAKER_02 (47:58):
Uh yeah, yeah.
It really, yeah, this movie uhlacked teeth.
It pointed out good things.
Yes.
But it just it just didn't havethe teeth to to make it so that
there's a surreal solution.
Yeah.
Yes.
Another interesting plot endingor toward like an ending would
have been if Zan's already, andthis is this is the difference.

(48:22):
This is how somebody who'sactually been there would think.
Because I always think to myselfhow I would be with my money
like that.
Would I and I would love tothink, because I do have a good
moral compass built from beingable to be grounded, um, that I
would be able to do and thenmaybe not because money changes
people.

SPEAKER_01 (48:40):
Well, well, well, Luke, the yeah, the reason I'm
pausing real quick is becauseyou're touching on the next
section of this, and we're gonnastart with you, Luke.

SPEAKER_02 (48:49):
I got one more for this, though, for for this
section before we leave.
Yeah, but Golden Pack.
But yeah, the but what I wassaying is like at the end of the
day, I think like it'd beinteresting to see that the
character of uh the Zanzari'scharacter um uh go in or Arge.
What?

(49:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Um, but that character um tolike go in and like act and be
like, no, fuck no changinglives, you're a piece of shit.
Like, no, I'm gonna like takeover now and I am gonna like be
a good person.
Yeah, I'm gonna like actually dowhat like Seth Rogan's character
ended up doing, which is like,oh, we're gonna pay them all
good.
No, like have the poor person bethe hero in the end and be like,

(49:32):
no, fuck you.
You can make self-make yourselfagain.
You're so talented.
Have fun with that, you're therenow, and then let's see, you
know, like and then have him dogood with money.
I would have liked to see thatending.
I feel like it could have reallygiven a better bow, but also not
portraying some some hyper richas a hero.

SPEAKER_01 (49:52):
Yeah, you brought up a fantastic point, and I cannot
wait to talk about it in thethird portion.

SPEAKER_02 (49:59):
James, you want to well, James had one more thing
to say.
Well, yeah, James, you said thatyou had one more point for the
sli there was uh there was somenice symmetry where uh uh uh
Keanu Reeves's character wasGabriel was born with smaller
wings, and so there's like animplicit hierarchy in the angels
as well, where some people arejust born with with larger

(50:21):
wings, which equates moresuccess.
And you have like the the Azraelat the top, and then and then
his boss, Gabriel's boss, andthe the wings get progressively
smaller, and and and it's justsomething you're born with, and
you can't escape out of it.
Because essentially what you'relike even making based on the
hierarchy.
Yeah, the even making the jokethough, to to you know, like,

(50:42):
oh, it's not a size with thewings.
No, it is.
It actually is, it matters a lotin this culture.
Yeah, yeah, it's it makes agreat point about you know where
you're born makes the mostdifference.

SPEAKER_01 (50:54):
No, and if you got lucky well, me being, you know,
I'm one inches long and sixinches wide, they call me the
slab.
It's hard, it's hard.
But that being said, it's timeto get into the third portion of
this thing.
It's time to insert ourselvesinto the film.

(51:15):
Good fortune.
So, fellas, how does it changeif we are there?
If uh if you guys don't mind,I'll kick it off.

SPEAKER_02 (51:24):
Sure.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (51:26):
Let's hear it.
So for me, um, and why at theend of this movie I left angry
is because um Aziz Ansariliterally got to do what we do
in the third portion of thispodcast, and was insert

(51:47):
ourselves into the narrative.
And he did help his dad.
He bought like he bought likehis dad a house and invited him
to a party.
He you know, he did that.
He helped his homeless friendget off the streets.

SPEAKER_02 (52:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (52:04):
He helped the homeless friend get off the
streets, but that the end of theday, he still had the two lives
impacted opposed to what likecould have been done if this guy
again.

SPEAKER_02 (52:15):
I assume just based on the the level of house and
and the the job and position andhow his growth had gone, I
assume this guy has a fuck tonof money.
Yeah, the impact that it couldhave had.

SPEAKER_01 (52:27):
He brought two guys up to his level, yeah, and then
still had the money to do hisown fucking choreograph dance
for his birthday.
Yeah.
Um, fuck you.

SPEAKER_02 (52:42):
I couldn't even afford the time to learn a
choreograph dance for my exactlyinstead of.
Let alone somebody to teach me.

SPEAKER_01 (52:54):
If you inserted me into this film, I would be not
as easy as sorry.
I would be Satan.

SPEAKER_02 (53:06):
And I I would show up as a as Lucifer, the angel of
righteous vengeance.

SPEAKER_01 (53:14):
Yes, I would show up as the angel of righteous
vengeance.
I thought you all at home werethinking that I would start
giving my wealth to otherpeople.
No, I would show up as Luciferand I would approach Azizansari
and I would say, I gave you anopportunity.
I gave you an opportunity tohelp the world.

(53:36):
To you, I gave you everything.
You, a person who lived in yourfucking car, and all you did was
choreograph a dance for yourbirthday and help your dad.
Guess what?
Yeah, my demons are gonnatorture you forever, you piece

(53:59):
of fucking shit.

SPEAKER_02 (54:02):
You know, people really want comfort and they
really want to, especially ifyou have never experienced it,
they really want to experienceit.

SPEAKER_01 (54:11):
You know, having a plant opportunity to breathe.
Well, and for that, you enterinto my realm, Lucifer.
So welcome to hell, baby.
Um so I would drag Aziz Ansaridown to hell, and I would
torture him for all eternity.

(54:32):
And then I would spend my timewith Seth Rogan, and um like,
hey, you know how you like youyourself in this movie claimed
that if I stole your watches,I'd be set for life, and you
just collect them like trophies.

(54:53):
I would then torture foreternity.
No, no, I would I would um Iwould turn into my demon form
with cloven hooves andpitchfork, and I would just fuck
the shit out of him.
Um that's not enjoyable foreither of you.
No, I'm not having fun, but thisis my job.

(55:14):
Alright, this is my job.
Um none of us enjoy our job, butthis is my job.
I'm fucking Lucifer.
And I would fuck the shit out ofSeth Rogan, and it would be more
torture for him becauseobviously I'm not gonna come.
I'm not having a good time.

SPEAKER_02 (55:33):
Um, Rogan or Aziz?

SPEAKER_01 (55:37):
No, Aziz has already burned in hell.
I sent him straight down thehell.
I'm trying to come into SethRogan's ass, but I can't because
I'm unattracted to him.
And that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 (55:48):
Not because of his body, because of his
personality.

SPEAKER_01 (55:51):
Because of his personality.
Because of his personality.
I can't.
It's very unattractive.
It's very unattractive.
He's got all these watches andshit, so I'm just fucking him
mindlessly.
And we're both in our own hell.
Um, as I fuck the shit out ofSeth Rogan and he gets fucked,

(56:13):
and I'm like, please justfucking come.
And I can't because he's such apiece of shit.
Um, and that's how the moviewould say.

SPEAKER_02 (56:23):
And that's how the movie I feel like that for the
first time ever, the movieactually gets worse.
It goes down in rating based on.
I don't know if I would enjoywatching that.
Or the rewatchability would godown a little.
Yeah, one three.
I'm not watching.
I'm not watching 35 minutesstraight of Seth Rogan getting

(56:44):
fucked by Satan.
It's it's important to watch itat least once, but I don't know
if I just turn it off.

SPEAKER_01 (56:51):
Yeah, you need to watch it once because it's
important.

SPEAKER_02 (56:57):
Oh my fuck.
Well, that's a it's a goodmovie.
I'd well do I have to be in thatmovie or can it be my own
separate edition?

SPEAKER_01 (57:05):
It's yeah, Luke, bring it where you need to bring
it.
What do you got?
What do you got?

SPEAKER_02 (57:09):
Yeah.
Um, well, you know, like youkind of said, I I would love to
I'd like to see myself get intothe to the rich person's
position, and I'd like to umthink that I would work to make
those impacts within in mybusiness.
Um, and obviously with the withthem being such a large
corporation, I I couldpotentially impact the lives of

(57:32):
so many.
And I would love to think thatas you pay workers, and there's
other companies that have donethis and seen success, as you
pay your workers higher wages,um, they end up you know putting
in more effort for you, and itactually ends up working out for
the company, and I can create adomino effect in the world and
change it.
And that's how that's how I'dlike to change it.
But what would end up probablyhappening is that I'd run the

(57:54):
company um into the fuckingground because I don't know what
the fuck I'm doing.
Umfortunately, there is an artto running a company and I ruin
it.
Um, but I do change a bunch ofpeople's lives before taking
that bitch down with me.
You know what I'm saying?
I won't I fucking I'm givingmoney to people, we're changing
lives, but um I'm I'm probablygonna burn everything to the

(58:15):
ground.

SPEAKER_01 (58:16):
I will say that that's a lie that's been fucking
fed to us.
None of these, none of thesefucking rich people know how to
run a company, they just ownthings.
So I think Luke in thatposition.
He was on the board.
He wasn't running the company.

SPEAKER_02 (58:33):
Yeah, yeah, you are right.
He just goes, yes, no, yes, no.

SPEAKER_01 (58:38):
Yeah, I think Luke, you you would do what I would I
think you would make yourchanges and you would change the
world for the better, and youkeep expecting the company to
fall apart, but the money justkeeps it moving.
I think, yeah, I I think itwouldn't fall apart.

SPEAKER_02 (58:54):
So every board meeting, it's the movie just
becomes every board meeting, megoing in and being like, so
guys, what's going on?
And then every time they'relike, no, everything's doing
good, guys.
Yeah, we the employees fuckinglove their lives.
We're fucking it's it'sphenomenal.
I think that's what wouldhappen.
Well, no, the shareholders theshareholders will be upset.
You will not have friends in theboardroom because they want

(59:15):
more, they want that money.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (59:18):
The shareholders, the shareholders would be
pissed, but Luke, I think yourcompany would be amazing.

SPEAKER_02 (59:25):
Perfectly, yeah, it would just run floor.
Your company would lose allvalue.
People would people would belike, oh, this company is not
gonna have the same returns asit was anymore.
And so people will divest fromyour company because we did this
crazy thing.
That we respect humanity.
No, no, no, no.
Companies in the we in theUnited States did this crazy

(59:46):
thing and it was really bad,where we said that corporations
that were publicly traded have alegal obligation to uh to
generate profit forshareholders, like they need to
make decisions to for on behalfof shareholders.
And it's like the we don't haveany laws about companies making

(01:00:10):
good decisions on behalf ofemployees or anything like that.
No, it's just shareholders.
Which is insane.
It's fucking crazy.
And uh and we did a bad, andthat needs to change, I think.
And that's what would change inmy Yeah.
It would be all based onemployees, nothing with
shareholders.

(01:00:30):
They decide second.
A it would become a co-op.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:35):
An effective culture, an effective society
would be one that is capable ofseeing that this system doesn't
work.
Let's alter it.
But we are completely incapableof that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:52):
Well, not completely incapable.
It's just when things happen.
You know, it happens severaltimes when the world order has
changed, you know, like the movefrom like medieval uh kingdoms
to a capitalist, you know, uhdemocratic system.
Uh, and before that it waswarlords and emperors, and you

(01:01:14):
know, you go back and forth andyou see changes in the world
order several times, but they'realways really harrowing.
Uh, you know, it's really hardfor people.
They have they have there'sthere's a time of upheaval where
everyone's gonna suffer.
Like, I know it's coming, andI'm like, you know, part of this
movie was me going, like, ohshit, like when the good jobs
dry up, am I gonna have to go bea Door Dasher competing with all

(01:01:38):
of these people, you know,living out of my car?
Because who knows?
I'm just a few paychecks awayfrom that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:44):
Who knows?
I I remember a time, especiallyduring COVID, when James, you
were doing the DoorDash world.
I I had decided to.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:54):
Oh, I was doing Uber.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:56):
I liked Uber.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:57):
I thought Uber was a lot of fun.
I joined the fucking uh Uber,like you drove you drove riders
and not uh delivery.
Yeah, I didn't do any delivery.
I drove riders, and it wasreally good in Las Vegas around
that time.
I was only having to work likethree days a week, and I was
make and Sherra was workingthree days a week, and we were
making more than enough moneyfor our expenses.

(01:02:17):
We can make like$300 a night,and in 2019 money, that was like
really good.
Yeah.
Yeah,$300 a night's reallysolid.
Yeah, yeah, that was reallyawesome.
And we do the overnight shift.
Well, but that that's just not athing anymore.
Yeah, that's not a thinganymore.
You know, it there's no you'renot making phenomenal.

(01:02:38):
Don't get me wrong, it's socompetitive.
That's the thing, is there's alot of fucking people who are
like, ooh, let me get on that.
Because it is, you know, it'snice being able to make your own
schedule.
It's nice being able to do thosethings, but yeah.
Desperate and overcrowdedbecause a lot of people there's
a lot of people.
I remember this around the 2008financial crisis where people
who had you know like reallygood office jobs ended up losing

(01:03:00):
their jobs because theircompanies had money tied up in
the real estate market, whichcrashed, and and so and so a
bunch of people lost their jobs,and then they had to move into
labor jobs, and then so the likethe labor market was
overflooded, and and it wasreally hard with Ryan and I
coming out of high school uh toget work because we were

(01:03:24):
competing with a bunch ofprofessionals who were like
coming from offices to do ourrandom bullshit job.
We were supposed to be we weresupposed to have secured
unskilled labor that we just gointo and make enough to get by,
and then and then promises weremade.
And that yeah, you are right,like it just fucking floods

(01:03:44):
every other job market, andyeah, promises were fucking
made.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:48):
And I mean, like, that's why we're so fucking
offended when you have uh aboomer's like just bring your
resume in and talk to the bossface to face, shake his hand.
I'm like, well, first I noticedyou said his.
You made an assumption right offthe bat.
Second, that's not how it worksanymore.

(01:04:10):
You said hands, anotherassumption right off the bat.
Shake their flipper.
Exactly.
The world is run by orcas, andboomers don't understand that
anymore.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:28):
They don't get it.
They don't get it, they don'tget it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:31):
They don't get it.
Every every CEO I've had was anorca.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:35):
Um that's why they're CEOs.
It doesn't stand for C A.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:43):
It's not Charlie Echo October, it's fucking C
World Echo.
But anyway.
Um but yeah, I I think thatstrikes at the core of it is
that there was a message here,but it was said by the wrong

(01:05:06):
people, and it uh to the wrongconclusion.
To the wrong conclusion.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:11):
We want a different conclusion.
Give us something different.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:13):
Yeah, like Azizan Sari was okay because he fell
back on his dream.
That's not the life we live in,that's not how it works.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:23):
He he got to be he he did it for love.
He was like, okay, if I go backto my other life, I'll have a
chance with Kiki Palmer, and soand so it it works on two crazy
premises that one, someone'sgonna give a bunch of comfort
and shit to for for a possiblelove, right?
And then two, that a very richperson is going to uh give up

(01:05:44):
money bec just out of thegoodness of their heart.
Yeah, because yeah, because ofan angel.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:52):
Keanu Reeves is one man, he can't save us all.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:57):
Yeah.
But this is this is like uh wedidn't mention it, but this is
like it's a it's like uh anattempt to for it's a wonderful
life.
Yes, right, yes, a little bit.
Yeah, it's it's like a it's likea combination of a wonderful
life and something.
It's the hopelessness, and youknow, maybe this world would be
better without me, but also butthey did a little twist where

(01:06:17):
they gave him money.
Uh yeah, yeah.
It's like a trading places mixedwith a one it's a wonderful
life.
Yeah Freaky Friday with it's awonderful life.
Yeah, but it's wrongconclusions.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
But that's not how things aregonna get solved.
Things are not gonna get solvedthis way.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:36):
No, I've I left this movie, felt like someone was
trying to placate me.
Like like someone was serving meup like a hey, I know you're
thinking about killing the rich,but chill out, bro.
Chill out.
An angel is gonna find you, andit's gonna be Keanu Reeves.

(01:06:57):
That'll be fun, right?
You get to meet Keanu Reeves.
And I'm like, no, no, that's notgonna happen.
I've I'd meet Keanu Reeves.
I'd kiss Keanu Reeves.
I would too.
Keanu Reeves would help.
Yeah, like if me and KeanuReeves got together and killed

(01:07:19):
Seth Rogan and served him up ona platter, and then refused to
forget that Azizensari wasaccused of uh sexual aggression.
Um, yeah.
I'd be down.
But I thought the world wasthat's the movie.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:41):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:42):
Yeah.
Sorry, rich people.
I'm not over it.
Sorry, Azizan.
Sorry.
I'm not over it.
And I feel that's where we land.
Congratulations on your 3.5movie.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:54):
But other than that, he's gonna be so bad when he
hears that.
He's gonna be embarrassed whenhe hears this.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:59):
Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:59):
I know it's gonna be our our weekly meetings with him
are gonna be very awkward.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:07):
Very awkward, very awkward.
We the three of us shouldprobably plan for that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:13):
I'm calling out sick.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:16):
I recommend it.
The three of us call out, butthen it would be it would just
be a Z sitting at the board, andthat's gonna be very awkward.
He's just gonna reschedule.
He's just gonna reschedule.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:26):
He is gonna reschedule.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:28):
Yeah, so hey, uh, well, we're high and dry
podcast, and we're gonna have toreschedule.
Um, we'll see you all next week.
Thank you all so much forlistening.
I'm your host, Ryan BarronNorth, with me as always, James
Crossland, Luke.
Um, yeah, keep fighting topower.
We're not terrorists.
We're not terrorists.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:47):
We just uh we just believe in doing the right
fucking thing, Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:51):
Yeah, yeah, we just believe in doing the right
thing.
So, cheers, boys.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:56):
Cheers, cheers, cheers.
Goodbye.
Bye bye bye.