January 4, 2025 • 73 mins
Is "Die Hard" the ultimate Christmas movie, or is it just an action-packed romp with a holiday backdrop? Join us this Christmas Eve as we sip on Knob Creek bourbon and indulge in some Black Friday cannabis deals, while tackling this age-old debate with our signature high and dry flair. We reminisce about the 80s, fondly recalling TV classics and new panel shows featuring Michael Ian Black, before diving into our structured three-part method to dissect "Die Hard." From assessing the film's quality, to exploring its deeper themes, and finally imagining ourselves in the movie, it's a conversation filled with whiskey-fueled insights and spirited debates.
As the conversation unfolds, we don't shy away from the polarizing reception of films like "Avatar," juxtaposing its storytelling with classics like "Dances with Wolves" and discussing the audience's thirst for mature thrillers akin to "The Thomas Crown Affair." We dissect Bruce Willis's everyman appeal and Alan Rickman's villainous charm, sparking debates over his performances in other films like "Dogma" and "Galaxy Quest." A humorous critique of J.K. Rowling's characterization choices in the Harry Potter series adds a whimsical twist to our analysis, while the iconic elements of "Die Hard" — from its dynamic cinematography to its diagenic music choices — keep us hooked.
In the final chapters, we venture into the realm of societal norms, the notion of the ends justifying the means, and the evolution of character dynamics in "Die Hard." We muse over the film's surprising progressiveness, lack of outdated stereotypes, and the complexities of John McClane's relationships. With a speculative twist, we imagine how a new character could shake up the plot, and explore precision in handling dangerous situations, all while humorously reimagining "Die Hard" with fresh perspectives. As we plan our holiday movie lineup, we look forward to "Muppet Christmas Carol" for New Year's, wrapping up our episode with laughter, whiskey, and a nod to the classics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I feel like I don't have.
I mean, we've all seen thismovie a million fucking times
and I have not.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This was the first time I've ever watched this
movie through no kidding,beginning to end yeah.
I know right no wonder you'reso goddamn progressive
interesting, I still have to saythat guy interesting, I still
have to say that, hey, everybody, and merry christmas eve, or
(00:30):
whatever it is you'recelebrating this evening.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Welcome to high and dry podcast, the only podcast
keeping alive the fandom of uhthat 80s, the uh, the uh.
Fuck, what was the name of thatshow with the 80s show.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Really the, the, the like the spinoff of that 70s
show.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh, that was terrible .
I meant I love the eighties, oh.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I love the eighties.
Oh man, I watched so much.
I love the.
I love the eighties.
It's come up in conversationseveral times this month.
I don't know what nostalgiathing we're doing where
everybody's looking back, but Ilove the 80s come up several
times and, yeah, I liked that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I watched that show, for sure.
I watched it too, and it wasweird because, like I wasn't
even I didn't have any fuckingidea what they were talking
about and it was just like anexcuse to put Michael Ian Black
on in front of a camera.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, you mentioned Michael Ian Black.
That's, one of the reasons hecame up was because he's on.
He's a panelist on a cnn show,uh, that's like a uh, an
american version of a britishshow called have I got news for
you?
And it's hoisted by roy wood jr, who's very funny.
He was on the daily show for along time and it's got amber
(01:43):
ruffin and michael ian black.
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There's three of them michael ian black to me was
just always very off-putting heis he's.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They play that up so well because he, he likes, he,
he takes a lot of counterpointsor is like but what about?
Horrible, weird thing?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
huh, okay, well and well.
Then they also did the uh Ilove the 70s, and then the I
love the 90s, just trying tocash in on it, but I don't think
it ever.
It went down that way well,anyway.
So fucking out off the wall,though it was a bizarre time, it
was a bizarre time.
So, anyway, everybody, welcometo high and dry podcast.
(02:22):
We won't actually be talkingabout I love the 80s we might.
This is a movie that came out in1988, what we're actually going
to be talking about, um,because it is, uh, christmas eve
when this is dropping.
Thank you for spending yourchristmas eve not with your
family, friends and loved ones,but with us.
You thick kings, you, um, thankyou so much.
(02:46):
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Yeah, and our medium size kingsand the medium yep and the plus
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Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, any kind of monarch, anybody
who has their place at the topof a hierarchy.
Those are the people that welove.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Obviously.
So tonight we're going to betalking about Die Hard.
I'm your host, Ryan Baron North, With me, as always, James
Crosland.
Hi we're going to dive right oninto this thing.
So tonight we're going to betackling Die Hard.
All right.
Every year, the one thing thatmillennials have brought to this
world is that every year weargue about whether or not this
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is a Christmas movie.
And tonight we're going tosettle it, and we're going to do
it in a three-part method.
So first we're going to ratethis movie.
We're going to tell you howgood Die Hard is definitively
All right.
Then we're going to dive intosome of the deeper thoughts that
were embedded into Die Hardthat you probably missed Finally
.
Finally, we're going to reallyunpack this thing and then,
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finally, we're going to insertourselves into the film.
But what makes it so fun, sospecial, is that we're going to
be doing it drunk and high.
So, james, what do you?
What are you smoking on thisMary of evenings?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So I actually got a really good deal on black Friday
for weed and so I've boughtprobably a year's worth of
cannabis for me and I got like Igot like a large variety of
stuff, so finally I'm gonna havesome.
I'm gonna have some variety onthe on the podcast again.
So we got gush mints tonight.
(04:35):
It's an indica that iskaryophylline dominant and scott
limonene and humaline andlinalool, and so this should be
a very relaxing and euphoricsensation.
I would bet.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, yeah, so right in line with the emotions that
were offered up in diehard youknow we'll get to it, but all
right.
Well, I'll be joining you with aknob Creek selection tonight.
I've been on a knob Creek kindof thing lately, um, but this
one is a single barrel selectWith a Knob Creek selection
tonight.
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the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
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three in the morning.
That's going to be awesome,poisoning me.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I'll just be lying there in the dark, unable to
actually fall asleep.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You'll be unconscious , constantly digesting more
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Speaker 1 (05:40):
So I'll be unconscious, not getting any
actual restful sleep.
Merry Christmas.
So here's our first one, thisfirst shot, this first toast,
this one goes out to our filmDie Hard, cheers, cheers, that
is spicy John McTiernan movie.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
By the way, I was pretty excited when I saw that
because, uh, you know johnmctiernan has done some good
movies.
He did predator.
He did, uh, he did thomas crownaffair, which was pretty famous
for like the pierce brosnan ona boat scene I know they were
looking to do a predator uhcrossover with that one.
(06:22):
With Thomas Crown Affair, wherethe billionaire thief
encounters the Predator on oneof his.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Correct.
I know that's what they weregoing for.
They just could never find thefunding and at the time Danny
Glover was just too powerful andPredator did that.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know, in that Call of Cthulhu game we played
where where my characterdisrupted everything he was.
He was based on pierce brosnanfrom the thomas crown affair in
in like it's like not not ahundred percent, obviously his,
his demeanor was way different,but like I, he was a rich art
thief who stole for the joy ofstealing and not because he
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needed anything, and he built upall these skills around
stealing.
I'd base it on him, huh.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Wow Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I might have to go back and watch that movie.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Well, well, this, this second one goes out to the,
uh, the predator crossoversthat should have, could have,
would have.
Um, here's to those cheers,cheers, oh man.
So, on the second, go around umit.
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It's got an interesting flavor,because I've just I've recently
been tackling, tackling another120 proofer from Knob Creek
that I enjoyed that didn't havethe same kind of standout flavor
.
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end and I just keep kind ofcatching that oh, it's just
really really smoky.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
This one, yeah, very smoky.
I hate smoky.
Like it when it's too smoky.
It's so unappealing.
I like smoke flavored stuff,but tone it the fuck down, guys.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
This one's a little smoky.
Well, this final one goes outto our newest listeners out
there, and we actually have afew to jump around from.
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Uh, when we were just bashingdenzel, we got, uh, viewers from
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What?
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the fuck.
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Our biggest viewership came out of Germany.
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Wow, that's wild.
What the fuck is going on.
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Are people listening to?
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us on VPNs or something maybe.
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Tell him how you found us,please, and why you listened and
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Yeah, I would love to know.
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So yeah, here's to ourinternational listeners Cheers,
cheers.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Merry Christmas.
What the fuck are you doinghere?
Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah?
I don't know, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Kwanzaa.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
All the things, all those dudes are crushing it.
You're all crushing it, notfucking crushing it.
All right.
So it's time to dive into thefirst part of this podcast.
All right, we're gonna breakdown die hard.
All right, everyone's favoritefucking action movie and we're
gonna tell you if you aredelusional or if it is actually
a good movie.
Um, we're going to do it in amethod.
We're going to break this thingdown into five little parts.
We're going to rate it on ascale of one to five on story,
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acting, cinematography, scoreand re-watchability.
All right, we're going toaverage those things together
and we're going to give you thedefinitive five star well, hold
on, it was scoring actingcinematography score and rewatch
ability okay I got it so, ohjeez, I need to just have a
(11:36):
post-it note well, we're justgonna bounce back and forth here
.
So, uh, die hard.
The uh, the classic story.
James, I have to start withstory yeah, oh well, I thought
this.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I thought the story was uh, it left a little to be a
little.
It left me a little wanting inthe year 2024.
Um, I maybe, I maybe wish I sawthis movie, you know, when I
was younger or whatever, and hada more emotional attachment to
it, but the story was to me, allright, the uh.
I thought the dialogue wasmostly bad.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I thought that we're not on acting, writing, nothing
like that.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yet story is.
I mean, yeah, I feel likedialogue is part of story.
Maybe maybe that should be moreunderacting.
Um, but it turned out they werejust thieves.
I was like when they evenpointed out in the story like
this is all just a robbery, likethat's what all this is for and
and legitimately, that's like areally, uh, great point, they
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legitimately at their start waslike, oh yeah, they did.
They were like let's murder abunch of people and shit for for
a robbery.
We're gonna murder a buildingfull of people, or whatever huh,
I've all.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You just gave me a, a golden path, but we'll do that
in the next stage.
So what would you rank thediehard story out of five?
I?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
don't think it was like.
Well, I don't know In thecontext of the time, I wish
someone who had a moreattachment than me went first.
I was the person coming in late.
Well, I like that we couldbounce it back and forth.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I think that you know , look, the diehard fans of this
thing are fucking delusional.
All right, All right, and it'stime that that gets on record.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So so I'd heard, I'd heard about, I've seen clips of
diehard and I've seen themashups of diehard and the
memeification of it and so Iunderstood the story, the core
story, pretty pretty, you know,generally.
Uh, I didn't feel like Ilearned that much more or that
the twists were just sounbelievable or whatever.
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It was pretty rote for nowadaysstories, uh.
So I'd give it like a two.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
A two, okay, all right.
Well, there you go, it was long.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It was a long story.
It was so long, it was over twohours.
That story could have been toldin 80 minutes and I would have
been like die hard, it's thebest fucking movie ever.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Okay, all right, a little long, stretched it out a
little bit, okay, alright, yeah,for me, you know, I the story
is simple and I would definitelyagree that, yeah, we didn't
need that much time On it.
The story is very simple.
Um, I think there's a lot Iwant to unpack In the story in
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the second part of this, but Iwill also say about Simple
stories.
Um, it's like some of the bestsongs are the simplest.
You know three chords,memorable melody, you know just
something that gets stuck inyour head, and I think that's
why maybe this one is solongevity-ing.
(15:03):
Yeah, I could see that beingthe case as far as story goes.
I mean, like you know, if we'retalking, the top is, you know
fucking, you know godfather andum, citizen kane and all that
kind of fucking shit.
Um, avatar three, three.
Avatar was a diehard ass story.
(15:25):
All right, that was.
I'm not going to get into it.
I'm not going to get into thestudio.
All right, avatar left a lot tobe desired in a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I'm just going to say , best story of all time,
according to the box office.
Fucking dances with wolvesanyway, oh my god and this
should just go off the r rating.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Just show us, show us the blue breasts yeah, we
wanted to see the kitty kittiesyes, come on, all right, anyway.
Uh, I'm gonna give it a three.
I'm gonna give it a threesimple as that I give it a three
middle of the road, like, yeah,it's not the best story in the
world, it's not the best storyin the world, but let's talk.
You felt it was confidentlyexecuted yeah, yeah, it
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obviously was.
I mean it's been, you know, Ithink I think in part two is
when we'll really unpack whythis thing has lasted so long,
and I have some interestingcomparisons on 80s culture
compared to its sort ofresurgence right now, especially
in toxicity.
But we'll get to that later.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So you know what?
You know what I find very funnyyou mentioned, like you know,
the story holds up and stuff andyou know at least it's
confidently done.
But I got to tell you I thinkmaybe this kind of movie is not
for me, because Shara actuallygets on me like she, she laughs
at me all the time, because Ilike pause movies, like during
explosions, like it happens allthe time.
(16:53):
It's like when I'm like, okay,I gotta, like I feel like I need
to get up and do something.
it's always like during anexplosion or some kind of climax
of action and it's like that'swhere I'm feeling bored, like I
felt like the movie did not,like I feel like there's a way
to competently write action in astory that makes me engaged,
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but when you just rely onexplosions and like you know,
and car chases and stuff, itdoesn't.
I think that's why I gave it toto.
I just wanted to justify myselfbecause you kind of triggered
no, I feel you, it makes sense,it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Um, no, no, I I think that, uh, you and I, I think
generally, we sort of, it seemswe sort of drift closer towards
maybe taut sexy thrillers, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I like a taut sexy thriller, absolutely yeah, a
Thomas Crown affair, if you will.
A taut sexy thriller well,let's talk acting.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, who fucking brought it?
Bruce Willis was great, Ithought.
Bruce.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Willis did a really good job.
I mean he launched it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
He launched a career as uh, you know, he launched a
career as this every man, notevery man, it's the every man we
all thought we could be like.
Our delusional minds allowed usto accept that I could be this
impending divorcee man.
He's not really focused on hisabs.
(18:28):
He's not sylvester stalloningit.
He's not arnoldschwarzeneggering it.
He's just a dude.
His hairline is fucking gone.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Um but the 19 year old flight attendant will still
check you out on your way offthe plane, right, you still get.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You still got that danger, you know you know people
, just don't mistake, don'tmistake my kindness for weakness
, ma'am all right, I'm glad I'mI'm fucking glad that john
mcclain didn't have a facebook.
Um, it would be a.
It would be a fucking nightmare, but uh, he sold it.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
He sold it yeah, he did sell it.
Yeah, he sold it.
And alan rickman, I've people,people always say, you say he's
fantastic.
I thought honestly it was, thatwas shit.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I people always I think it was supposed to be.
I don't think it was.
It was like dude, you're likedude, you're a comic book
villain.
You're a comic book villain.
Fucking, do it.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh yeah, maybe I wasn't.
I wasn't so impressed, but Iknow it's a beloved role for him
and people love him in thatrole and when they see Alan
Rickman they think Hans Gruber,yeah, but, but it doesn't have
dogma.
Oh, you think Dogma?
Yeah, it's got Metatron.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, I thought he was awesome in that, honestly,
he was I thought that were,because like first he was Hans
Gruber and just super railroadedinto this comic bookie villain
and then after that he was Snapeand Snape sucks he's an asshole
.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, and we don't talk about it.
He did a great job with thecharacter, though he did a great
job he did, and I think that'swhat happened with Hans Gruber.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I think that's what happened with him.
Well, that's the thing.
What was weird is there waslike this redemption arc where,
like oh, he was a nice guy thewhole time and in love with
Italy.
No, no, like oh, he was a niceguy the whole time and in love
with italy.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, no, he was a toxic nice guy the whole fucking
time.
Well, we learned a lot about jkrowling and it really uh makes
sense.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Now, yeah, uh, it makes sense, and that I always
think of alan.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh good, no, no you go.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, just that, her, uh, you know that, her fucking
lead character, that you knowthe little asshole that launched
a, a billion in book sales, um,was a c student.
Given everything, becomes a cop.
Yeah, that's our hero, that'sexactly right but uh anyway, um
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my alan rickman.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It's always galaxy quest.
That, that's what I think.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh, fantastic yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, yeah, but low price.
He was incredible in Galaxy.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Quest.
I think Galaxy Quest is one ofthe most underrated films.
Yeah, yeah, not even not evenTim Allen could ruin it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I seriously like we've started like kind of an
old movie night with a group ofNot even Tim Allen could ruin it
.
Seriously, we've started likekind of an old movie night with
a group of Cindy's friends andnext time I'm going to suggest
Galaxy Quest.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I think they'd love it.
It even has Justin Long inthere no-transcript.
Um called sigourney weaver yesand weaver, she's looking
fantastic in that point uhrockwell sam rockwell, yep, yep,
yep um tony shalhoub.
Yeah, tony shalhoub.
(21:56):
Oh, my god um yeah, nofantastic movie.
Anyway, go watch galaxy quest.
Yeah, watch galaxy than DieHard.
He's great acting, you'll seeAlan Rickman kill it.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, he's doing hammy acting, but with a
self-awareness Like, if you wantto.
That's the reason why I havetrouble giving this like a super
high score is because I've seenhow good he can do it.
He can do it so much betterit's.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Galaxy.
It's roles like galaxy questthat make me think that.
So, like hans gruber, thedirector said, hey, you're a
comic book villain.
And then galaxy quest, thedirector's like, hey, you're, uh
, you know, just a sci-fifucking trope and you're sick of
it.
And he was able to, yeah, andhe was able to do.
Yeah, he, just he's able to dowhatever you fucking toss him
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into.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah for acting.
I'd give this a three and ahalf or four, I guess let's just
get.
Let me just give it a fourbecause we round up around.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
OK, all right, yeah, for me, I, yeah.
I think you know this launchedBruce Willis.
You know he's the first actorto sell his AI likeness.
Really, before he, like beforethe dimension, everything took
over he, he sold his image nice,we'll see how that turns out.
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I don't know if anyone wasreally clamoring for that image
at the end, but hey, who knows?
Yeah, who knows, maybe we wantto see him again.
Yeah, for the acting.
I think Bruce Willis wasawesome.
I think I liked.
I liked it for what it was andI'm going to go with you and I'm
going to do the four as well.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
So let's talk cinematography.
I thought the cinematographywas, uh, pretty good and I think
that this movie was pre-steadycam and you know you saw you
could see a lot of movement ofthe camera person, but it gave
it.
It gave it like a more personalfeel.
This came from a time beforemovies did this jump cut combat,
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you know, like where people getinto fistfights.
There's like cut, cut, cut, cutto cut to an elbow and they cut
to a hand, then cut to theirfaces.
You know it was.
It was a time where we wherethe camera person was actually
following the action had to getit all and, um, I liked it.
It felt pretty personal.
It was a little rough aroundthe edges though at times, um,
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we got, we.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Uh, you know, the cinematographer did a really
good job showing bruce willis'sfeet oh yeah, he loved them show
this is actually one of uh,this was one of uh tarantino's
actually first roles, like wherehe was credited um and they put
him behind the camera I didn'teven have to give him any tokens
(24:54):
, he just kept showing me hisfeet uh, tarantino, you're gonna
kill it in this town.
And off he went.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, cinematography, though I thought they had some
good shots.
The vent scene is pretty,pretty classic.
Yeah, you know they had reallygood blocking, like I felt.
I feel like I feel likeMcTiernan does an excellent job
with blocking a scene where he,where he places like the
environment around people andthe environment around people,
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he makes the space reallynavigable.
The floors that were underconstruction, you had an idea of
where everybody was.
Sometimes he'd play a fun gamewith the environment.
I thought the cinematographywas pretty good.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I also give it a four , okay, yeah, so I also enjoyed
it.
The scene in particular that Ithink of was when Bruce Willis
is underneath the executivetable and the terrorist is above
it.
Terrorist is above it.
(26:10):
I felt that they did a prettygood job of like, like, I like,
I liked how it it took this ceo,you know upper echelon, you
know top of the city, la, um,and I liked seeing, I thought it
was well done, I liked it a lot, um.
But then there were some sceneswhere I felt there was a lot of
strange open space, like, uh,when he finally hangs the one
terrorist, yeah, and it's justlike this sort of this wide shot
(26:34):
of, yeah, and he's off to theside, yeah, like it looked like
a halloween, like a hauntedhouse at that point.
Um, so you know, but so, yeah,I would also have to give it a
four, um, just because I thoughtit was really good.
I liked a lot of it, I liked alot of the work on it, um, but
just every once in a while therewas something that was just
reminded me that, oh, this isstill the 80s, they weren't
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quite where we should be at.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
That, uh was still fantastic did a pretty good job
for the stuff at their disposal,you know definitely that's the
thing that I'll give a four tosomeone who's trying hard on
cinematography and doing thesmall things that other, like
current studios seem to begrappling with being able to do.
You know cinema like any kind ofblocking or any kind of
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interesting shots.
I gave trap a good score forthe set, you know for its
cinematography, because it wastrying things and it was doing.
It was doing the basic shitthat makes cinematography good,
definitely.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh yeah, no, I agree Agreed.
So four on there, all right.
So let's talk about the score,the music.
How did it?
How did it make you feel?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So I I had high hopes because of the diagenic music
sequence at the beginning wherehe turns the you know radio on
in the car he took in the limoturns the radio on in the limo
and the radio begins to play forus.
Like it, it does double duty,as like in the story, and you
(28:01):
know, uh, and for the audience,first movie score, and so I had
high hopes for that, and thenafter that I didn't notice the
score at all.
Okay, and so you didn't likeChristmas and Hollis by run DMC.
I don't know I missed itentirely.
I I honestly I was pretty boredthroughout this movie, so I I
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took a lot of I was able tothroughout this movie, so I, I
took a lot of.
I was able to take notes onacting instead of talking to
stuff, but I just I just spacedon score.
It didn't touch me at all inone way or another, so I don't
know in a yeah Okay.
Give it an.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
N a score.
All right, yeah, and I wouldsay at the, the beginning of the
action sequences, I could feelthe swell I did like the, I did
like Christmas and Hollis beingin there and it's one of the
reasons why I'll argue that itis a Christmas movie.
Was it the?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
first song Was that.
The song that I heard when Iwas like this is a like this is
going to be good.
It was like it was probably,that was probably, it don't
remember probably.
Let's say so, that was probablyit.
That was being played on theradio and I was like, all right,
let's go you know, yeah, yeah,no, yeah, without a um.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, that was yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
They say they say christmas like 40 fucking times
and the last line of the movieis about christmas.
It's obviously a christmasmovie, guys yeah, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, yeah, without a doubt, but we'll save that for
the last 10 minutes.
Um, so anyway, um, yeah, for myscore, I'm just gonna give it a
three.
Um, it did what it was supposedto.
It didn't leave the movie insilence, and I like christmas
and hollis, so it is what it is.
So, finally, rewatch abilitywhere you at in a.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't think this movie was for me.
I don't know what to say.
I know people want to watchthis movie and for many people
this is a rewatchable movie.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I watch it once a fucking year, but who watches it
in?
June.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I don't know, I have no idea, I don't.
I've never seen this moviebecause I was really like I
think I've got the gist of thismovie.
And it turns out I did have thegist of this movie, uh, and so
I don't need to watch it everagain if I ever get the where
(30:17):
I'm ever like, oh yeah, I, Iwant to.
I want to watch die hard, I'llwatch.
Uh, there's a youtuber or there.
She worked for funny or die andshe did a series for funny or
die where she, where she wouldget drunk and watch movies and
she would do like a live watchof movies and then she'd cut it
down to the best parts and itwas called tam gets drunk and
(30:38):
watches.
And if I ever want to watch diehard, I'll go watch that
because it hits all the keyparts, it's enjoyable, and then
I, and then I feel like I'veseen die hard pretty much.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, no, you ain't wrong um and uh.
So, or you can listen to thispodcast there you go.
Well, my question uh, rememberlast christmas, uh, when I gave
you my heart um, we did, uh, wedid.
The one where santa was anordic entity oh yes, john
(31:10):
leguizamo.
Yeah, I remember that, whichwould you rather watch, oh like.
So like christmas eve istonight and so you've got to
decide on a movie that you'regoing to put on while you
fucking rip in bourbon andeggnog.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I probably watched die hard again.
Die hard is more competentlydone, I think.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I did not like that.
Is it John Leguizamo's fault?
John Leguizamo did not do agreat job in that movie, If I
remember correctly.
I feel like you really phoned itin, if I like, from what I
remember in this movie don'tquote me, go listen to the other
podcast, I guess but I feltlike that movie was really
phoned in.
I don't think I had a bunch offun with it, but I'd rather
(31:57):
watch this movie, even though Ijust saw it.
I'd rather watch Die Hard againand be like maybe I missed
something, maybe you mean, okay,just out of curiosity.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Alright, well, I have seen die hard.
I don't know how many times I,you know, I, I 11.
Yeah, that sounds accurate.
That sounds accurate.
So, um, and it has become sortof a you know, a, a tradition
for a lot of people.
Um, and if you told me tonightlike, hey, man, uh, come on over
(32:31):
, uh, we're gonna, we're gonnachill, we're gonna, shoulda,
coulda, would of our lives,drink a little bit and I'm gonna
have diehard on on thebackground, like all right, cool
, um, I'll watch it the 12thtime, um, and next year I'll
probably watch it the 13th time.
So I would honestly say therewatch ability, then, is a five
, because I've seen it moretimes than I have fingers and I
(32:53):
will probably see it more timesthan I have fingers.
Again, um, I've probably seendie hard not as much as rush
hour, two, um, but but, and notas much as shanghai nights, but,
or noon, what about big trouble, little china, or big trouble,
little china, but it's rightafter there.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So um, what about?
What about predator?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
it's after that too, but what about?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
what about underworld ?
What?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
about Underworld.
It's above Underworld, it'sabove Underworld.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
So for that I gotta give it a five Die.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Hard is under.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Underworld.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
for me You've had to watch Underworld.
I I've seen underworld moretimes k back in sales underworld
.
Oh shit, oh my god.
Well, so with that being thecase, as far as talent, high and
dry podcast gives die Hard a3.6.
We round up around here becausewe're nice guys like that.
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Die Hard gets a 4 out of 5.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Abomination Maybe we should start rounding down to
the.
Our system is destroyed.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
We start rounding down to the half.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I'd give it a 3.5.
It's gotta be rounded all theway down to3.
I gotta stop voting NA.
I should have voted with myheart and really destroyed this
movie.
That everyone loves.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You gave us a lot of N8s, which allowed it to
maintain a strong score.
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I don't care, none of this matters.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
It's definitive, though, and you can't argue it.
You can never argue it again.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Also, it doesn't matter, alright.
So there you go, folks.
Um, die hard gets a four out offive.
Congratulations, die hard.
The.
The indecision of one of ourvoters allowed you to maintain a
very strong score, if I'm notmistaken, the strongest score
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since we started scoring.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, I think this is possibly the strongest movie
we've scored.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's depressing, but it makes sense, because this
was a better movie than Trap.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, trap had me more engaged, but I didn't feel
like I'd seen Trap yet.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
But you were engaged in a way where, like just
fucking M Night Shyamalan wasjust fucking dick slapping you
and you were wondering if he wasgonna stop and then I turned to
you with him slapping his dickin my face and I'm like I'm
engaged right now, exactly, I'mpretty engaged which is a normal
(36:08):
way to feel when someone'sfucking smacking you with their
dick.
I love how uh m night shamalonuh came back to hear this
episode and we're still talkingshit.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, yeah, well, anyway, um so it's time for the
second part of this thing.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
It's time to dive to hear this episode, and we're
still talking shit.
Yeah, yeah, well, anyway, um.
So it's time for the secondpart of this thing.
It's time to dive into thedeeper meaning of diehard Um.
So, before we do that, it'stime to get a little more drunk,
it's time to get a little morehigh.
Let's line them up, ooh, causeI I do have some thoughts.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I do, oh, because I, I do have some thoughts, I do,
do you?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
yeah, do you want to go first?
Sure, okay, all right, here'sto uh the higher thoughts of uh.
Now, here's to m night shamlonsmacking you with his dick with
another movie.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Thanks for keeping my attention.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I'm not bored.
I'm not happy.
I'm not happy that this ishappening, but I am engaged, I
am engaged.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
He's doing his job.
He's doing his job.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Wish he'd stop calling me a good boy.
All right, so it's time to getonto the golden path.
I feel like we're there.
Yeah, I got four ounces of 120horsepower whiskey flowing
through in my I'm throwingflowing through my blood.
Um, so let's talk about thehigher thoughts that were behind
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diehard.
And uh, the first thing, um,this thing, this thing was a, a
crossfade album.
Before we had crossfade.
This was a creed album.
Before creed came out, um, thiswas, you know, fucking three
days, grace divorced dad.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I wasn't sure where you're going
with it, but yeah, divorced dadrock but a movie this was
divorce.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Dad rack in a movie.
Um, you know where.
You know she's the bad one.
She's the bad one for havingambition.
Um, she's the bad one for notwanting to fucking drag you
around.
You're the good one for being acop.
Um, we hate the press.
The press are fucking animalsand monsters.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
That's true, journalists are terrible.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Journalists are terrible, and I thought that was
weird Because I've been seeinga lot of things pop up on the
various social medias lately Oflike a celebration that, uh, you
(39:09):
could use the word retard again.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I mean who said like one, who said that you couldn't,
and two who's saying that youcan, who's saying you can't do
it.
There are people who are saying, hey, you know, using that word
when you say that makes my sonor daughter, who has a learning
(39:37):
disability, feel like anoutsider and it would be great
if you didn't do that.
And then there's another personsaying say whatever the fuck
you want, who cares what anybodyfeels?
Fuck that kid.
And you're like, oh, thank god,someone is finally telling me
(39:57):
that I give a shit about anyoneanymore yeah and uh, I'm seeing
this.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Uh, I mean especially , you know, we had that last
election.
Yep, uh, there was an electionrecently yeah, there was an
election recently, believe it ornot.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And so I'm seeing this vast.
It's like a lot of people feelthat permission has been granted
to be a dick bag.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Why are you always asking people for permission?
If you were a dick already,whatever you're a dick you don't
need, I would rather you didn'task for permission to be a dick
.
I'd rather you weren't a dickby your own volition.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
but why are?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
you?
Why are you asking forpermission to be a dick?
What kind of loser fuckingasked for permission to be a
dick?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
it's because they need that validation and they
need the okay um, because theydon't believe or want to be the
bad guy in the argument.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
So so it's like a, so it's like a self-delusion that
because they've got permission,that they are in the right like
inherently so.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Now that they can be the good guy again, they don't
like god.
It wasn't.
It wasn't that I'm a dick.
It wasn't that I'm a dick, it'sthat everyone around me has
become too sensitive.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
That's such fucking low energy thought Mm-hmm.
Yeah, these people need to burntheir calories on thinking.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
It's endemic, and so what I'm seeing here is a return
to a lot of the old stuff, andone of the things that Kaye
motherfucker.
Well, one of the things thatstruck me as interesting was how
blatantly evil press wasportrayed.
(41:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah and.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Just self-serving anything for a story, like it's
not capital, or or like you knowthe way careers are structured,
that that created this systemwhere a reporter has to be like
I need to be at the center ofaction immediately to advance my
career or I'm gonna be stuckyou doing shitty stuff my whole
(42:16):
life.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
But but by by doing this, this narrative of what a
reporter is, you know, the oneswho are telling us, hey, the
person you like is behaving likea dickbag, are now just
universally wrong.
You know you could do anything,you're going to do anything for
a story.
You're knocking on the door ofthat one place.
But then it was alsointeresting to see this strange
(42:47):
blend of what a dick bag is.
So we see him roll up to thehouse he's the dick bag.
He's part of journalism, he's apiece of shit.
But then he threatens to havethis woman deported.
He's a piece of shit, yeah, andit's like that's now that that
guy is now two sides of thisstrange little american aisle in
(43:12):
one dude at this woman's doorlike he's a piece of shit, part
of the press, and he's a pieceof shit for trying to get an
innocent woman deported I bet alot of people who love this
movie love the idea of doinganything to that.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
That that, uh, the ends make the means what's,
how's it go?
The ends justify the means.
Like they're those kind ofpeople and they would.
They would probably fuckingthreaten so to get someone
deported to get what they wanted.
If you, if they were like, Iwould never actually call them.
I'm just threatening them, it'sjust.
(43:47):
It's just, you know, to getwhat I want.
It's not like I'm gonnaactually do it.
Oh yeah, they don't think ofthemselves as bad guys.
They're just like I'm justgonna do.
I'm gonna do anything in mymeans to get the thing I want,
because it's doggy dog out hereyeah, yeah, which, yeah, it's,
uh, it's this perpetuatingcircumstance that, uh, yeah,
(44:09):
makes everything really sad.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
um, yeah and no.
Then it like I feel what'swhat's weird is?
I think that there's thisstrange reversal when it comes
to looking back at Die Hard,where you look at other movies
and you're like wow, that didn'tage well, yeah.
(44:31):
And then you look at Die Hardand go go wow, we didn't age
that well, we made this worsethan it was yeah, that's pretty
interesting.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I hadn't thought about that we made this bad.
Now, like 2024, made this bad Iloved that there were no gay or
trans jokes in this movie.
So often when you look back atat movies from that time, they
really they take a very easytarget on gay and trans people
(45:10):
and I was waiting for like acrocodile dundee moment or some
bullshit like that Predator hasa one gay joke, I think, and I
was like, oh, come on the firstfive minutes.
Yeah, like, oh, come, come onPredator.
But this one this one didn'thave any, and I was really
(45:31):
impressed by that.
Yeah, we slid, we slidbackwards from diehard, from
diehard.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
We are.
Yeah, we slid, we slidbackwards from diehard, from
diehard.
We are less progressive nowthan diehard, um, and it's, it's
strange because, like, thelines of just the morality of it
have been completely blurred.
Yeah, you know, just just inthat reporter's you know
thoughts and feelings alone.
He's evil as it is, but thenhe's doing evil shit that the
people who call reporters evildo.
And meanwhile we got thisdivorcee cop out there just
(46:05):
fucking giving these thieves thetime of their lives.
Do as much violence as possibleuntil your separated wife
forgives you and takes you back,dude, and that creates such a
wild delusion in like what justyou know potential partners and
(46:27):
and women want.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
It's like yeah, fucking what.
You don't have to directlyaddress your problems in your
relationship.
You can solve the problems inyour relationship by doing other
things that you value.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, it's like dude, john McClane, what if you
didn't happen to be there whenterrorist take took over?
How would you have saved yourmarriage?
You wouldn't have.
Yeah, there would be like hewould have refused therapy.
Uh this is the one thing I dowell the only thing I can do is
just kill people without shoeson, uh, me being the one without
(47:09):
the shoes, not them, in caseyou were confused I did word
that weirdly.
I will be the one not wearingshoes.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
The terrorists I kill of course, will be wearing
shoes, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
He would have had a lot easier time if he didn't
meet that guy on the airplane.
Well, so, if you ever watch.
So after that there was DieHard 2, where he saves his wife
who's trying to divorce himagain, but this time on a plane.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Really, yes, no, I thought die hard 2 was on like a
subway and stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
I thought they had that's die hard 3 and that and
die hard 3 is where he teams upwith sam jackson and and the
divorce has finally gone throughDie hardest.
There's only so many terroristsyou can kill to make me love
you, and it's just not workinganymore.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
I have to kill a small country to get my wife
back.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
This time, dude, why don't you just talk to her?
Hell, no, Never, I would refuse.
Have you seen that that?
Speaker 2 (48:22):
woman.
Have you listened to her talk?
Um, I'll talk to terrorists andthe audience and then we'll
just we'll pretend, like I didthat with my wife and then, uh,
when they returned with Die Hard4, like Die Harder or whatever,
the fuck Live Free or Die Hard,live Free or yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
It was With that one actor that they tried to force
on us, but it just wasn'thappening.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
I don't know, but I know Kevin Smith was in one of
the later ones.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Kevin Smith Well no, so Die Hard 4,.
So then they introduced JustinLong.
Oh yeah, justin Long.
It was this movie about how theold ways need to survive.
Because you can't do everythingwith a computer, sometimes you
need a divorcee willing to killa bunch of people.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, this is the one I watched.
This one has Kevin Smith.
It also has Mary ElizabethWinstead and Timothy Oliphant,
the bad guy.
This was the first Die Hard Isaw.
Oh, and it was terrible.
This is the first Die Hard Isaw.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Terrible.
Well, die Hard.
5 was a good day to die hard,where we encountered Jai
Courtney.
Jai Courtney is Bruce Willis'sson who refuses to talk to the
man.
But between each movie theyjust gloss over what a fucking
(49:55):
narcissistic individual johnmclean is, and then in the movie
his family forgives him becausehe kills a bunch of terrorists
yeah, nobody want.
Nobody in his family likes himor wants to be around him that's
so true there comes a pointwhere yo dude, it's not how many
(50:17):
terrorists you can kill, youneed to fucking talk to a
professional don't want to, andso you'll be tolerated for that.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
You should.
You should expect beingtolerated for that, because
eventually people will sufferwithout you to to rescue them
with by by scurious means yeah,and it's just like that's not,
for.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
that's not real life, dad and right.
That's not real life and peopleneed to stop looking at this as
more than just a shitty writtenaction movie.
This is not a role model.
John McClane is not a rolemodel.
Look, we just gave this moviefour out of five.
All right, we enjoy it.
(51:11):
We're going to watch it again.
I'm going to watch it probably20 more times before I die.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
I am never going to watch this movie again.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
You know, we all say that.
We all say that I feel prettyconfident.
Um, I'll probably see it thisyear.
Um, within the next week Imight come up, but, um, do not
turn this man into a role model.
He, you know, look, at the endof the day, we all like you.
You guys all carry, like youknow, your fucking uh gun around
because you hope one day you'llbe john mcclain and all the
pieces of shit part of you willbe justified as you murder a
(51:49):
bunch of people at a walmart.
Um, yeah, it's just not gonnahappen.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Instead, work on the piece of shit parts of you yeah,
make people like you not notfor you know, because you,
because you do things that theybegrudgingly accept in order to
save their lives or whateverlike you try, try to be a joy to
be around for the people inyour life.
(52:14):
People like that.
They don't like to begrudginglykeep people in their life.
They like to emphatically thepeople in your life, people like
that.
They don't like to begrudginglykeep people in their life.
They like to emphatically keeppeople in their life.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Your likability, your tolerability shouldn't hinge on
a fantasy scenario where youkill a bunch of people because
you are the one who is braveenough to do it.
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
It's crazy that there's like legitimately people
out there who, even if theyhaven't seen this movie, still
like personify that mindset.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, you're, yeah, you being a tool.
Yeah, you're an asshole, sorry,all right.
So, with that being said, Ithink the golden path has been
walked on this one.
It's now time to get into thefinal portion of this film.
It's time to insert ourselvesinto Die Hard.
So, james, how does Die Hardchange with the introduction?
Speaker 2 (53:23):
of you.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
I think you know immediately that you're the
flight, you're the flightattendant, damn it he's like
really girl, girl why.
Sir, you cannot have a gun onthis plane, arrest this man,
john McClane, goes to jail rightoff the plane.
(53:45):
Fucking sky marshals are on him.
Being a cop does not allow youto fucking concealed.
Carry across.
Flew with a loaded gun, whatthe fuck?
Speaker 2 (54:08):
so that's it I, you know, when we have a when we,
when we have a movie that Idon't particularly like, it
seems to be my strategy on howdo I end this movie as fast as
possible.
I think I could have ended thismovie in like a minute and 15
(54:29):
seconds.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
You flew with a loaded gun.
How did you get past TSA?
Speaker 2 (54:37):
Oh shit, Either that or I'm Holly.
I guess I could be Holly.
Pretty good job.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
But I could see for you, though, if you're Holly, he
does all the murder andeverything like that, and you're
like we still all the murderand everything like that, and
you're like we still need towork on our problems don't touch
me.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
Are you ready to have a conversation yet?
No, okay, man, I need, I needsome of that.
I need some of that new yorkschlub dick.
I can't wait that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Oh god, oh man.
I mean, maybe that's somethingwe haven't addressed with Holly.
Is that something in her pastallows her to continually bring
in this toxic male?
Speaker 2 (55:41):
I think he's just good at fucking.
I think she was like you wantto come over to the house.
I think the kids would love ifyou were over at the house.
So would I.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
The kids aren't even home right now.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah, I really need to get fucked.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
My hair hasn't been doing it around the office, so
if I got a sure thing Now I cansee that Maybe John McClane is
just a really good.
He's a very giving, very giving.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
His giving to receiving ratio.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Three to one no, he's not a giving lover.
I highly doubt that.
Three to one no, I've never methim.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
He's not a giving lover, but I'm sure he seems
physically capable, he seemslike he, you know.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
So he's just athletic enough, he just wants to be
thrown around the room.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's enough for him.
These West Coast guys, theyjust want to choke you or
whatever, but they're not strongenough to to get you, to get
you around the room.
It's you where you need to be.
Yeah, they just want to chokeyou or slap you or something.
It's like come on, I lift me upand and fuck me against the
(56:51):
wall.
They can't lift you up.
They're too coked out.
They can't concentrate longenough fantastic, all right.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Well, we're figuring out a lot about john mcclain in
this episode.
He's got a really weirdsituation going on um, he's
pretty focused.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
He's got an okay sense of humor.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Good enough of a lover, the best lover she could
get to in the corporate world um, yeah, and you know, I always
got to insert myself into the amain role and I think, uh, I'd
be wearing shoes, I wouldn't beshooting from the hip that guy
tells you that, what do you?
Speaker 2 (57:35):
what do you say when that guy tells you to do that on
the plane?
Speaker 1 (57:39):
I'd be like, okay, hey, that's cool man, uh.
But see, but I'm a generallycharismatic and likable guy, so
I would like make him feel heard.
I'd be like, hey, that's reallycool, and I'm happy that that
works for you, and then I wouldnever consider it.
I, I would get off the plane,um, I wouldn't be doing the
(58:00):
thing he said you'd look at thecarpet, look at the car.
That's okay um, and uh, yeah,then it would be, uh, if these,
so the guys that he was upagainst, they were just as
action movie as he was.
Right, they were out of theirfucking minds, yeah, and so what
(58:24):
would take place after thatwould be a bunch of very smart
murders.
You know, like I'm not runningout there shoeless, or anything
like that.
It would just be like I'm goingto out there shoeless, or
anything like that.
It would just be like I'm gonnaget right down here in this
little corner, here's oneterrorist, the patau.
He's dead.
Um, because I'm aiming.
(58:45):
You see, I use this site that'son the top here.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Um, that's what that's for seems like it could
be useful yeah, I'm gonna usethis site to begin with.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, so yeah, it would be like you know, have you
ever?
You know you don't have kids,but like if you ever take a
bunch of children to like lasertag have I ever taken no, but
I've been to laser tag so itwould be like taking a bunch of
(59:21):
children to laser tag, um, whereyou know you got this thing up
here on your cheek.
You're using the site.
Oh, there's one, he's dead.
There's one he's dead whilethey're trying to do this weird
thing.
Um, like the german.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
You turn this into a serious, kill as many people as
efficiently as possible.
You do that with every movieit'd be over in 10 minutes.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
Mine would also be very fast.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
How would you if you inserted yourself into elizabeth
town?
How would you?
How would you change that?
Speaker 1 (59:55):
all right, so it'd be like you got this thing up here
and you just um, we need tostop watching movies where it's
solved with gunplay, um, um, butlike that whole table scene,
(01:00:19):
I'd just shoot him you, just,you would just quietly sit in
one area and shoot people asthey come through the door.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Yeah, that would be the whole movie.
It would cut it down to about40 minutes.
As soon as you got, as soon asyou got, a precision rifle, you
just sit in one place every oncein a while I talk to alan how
you guys doing in there.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
You want to come in and handle this yet, or I don't
know I shot a kid, but you gottaforgive me, alan.
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
No, maybe you shouldn't be a police officer
anymore, alan.
Maybe, maybe, do, maybe.
Do a job where you don't have agun.
You shot a kid.
Go somewhere, do something else.
Be a manager at a jimmy johnsor something, I don't know, but
you should not be a cop anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Oh, hold on alan.
So alan, a terrorist justrolled in and I shot him in the
head and he wasn't a child hewas an adult man.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
He was an adult man with a real gun with a real gun.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I don't know if you've ever seen one of those.
They look very different, um sooh excuse me, Alan.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Alright, so there's another one.
Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
They keep coming at me.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Unless he's a balding child.
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
They keep running at me with their gun on their hips.
They fire at me, but it justfucking hits around me.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
It's a kind of force field.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Oh my god, yeah, so it's like I have a force field.
They sent the hockey puck thingat me, but I just kind of
kicked it back still camethrough the door.
Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
They always come through the door it's very weird
.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
when this dude tried to kick me, I shot him.
Yeah, that's how it would be.
I'd be sitting in a cornershooting terrorists as they ran
in the room and trying toconvince Alan that he shouldn't
be a police officer.
You killed a child, and killinga terrorist today does not
(01:02:38):
change that.
Yeah seriously.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
You know what it's also, that also fits into the
golden path of redemptionthrough the having them there
because they save your, they'rewilling to shoot someone for you
.
It's the same thing, it's thesame kind of.
They deserve redemption becausewhere would you be without them
?
Someone would have killed youin.
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
In that particular instance, where we were
surrounded by fbi lapd, any oneof those guys would have
recognized that the man about toshoot us A, not a child.
Two, that gun is real.
Three, I'm going to shoot himnow.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Also, that never would have happened because a
bunch of FBI people, you know,and police officers surrounding
the building wouldn't be like ah, we got him, everybody dust off
, we don't have to clear thebuilding or anything.
Everything's good.
We all.
We did it, mission accomplished, let's good.
We did it, mission accomplished, let's all load up.
Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
No Room by room.
Clear this bitch.
I don't believe that the NYPDguy got them all and we're going
to double check.
Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yeah, exactly Stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
That's how it would be different, there'd be a lot
more precision killing.
Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
You gotta forgive the cops that shoot children yeah
shooting people for the rightreasons, just made a mistake I
just I'm just trying to shootpeople out here.
Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
I'm a good man, I just want to shoot the right
people and I fucked up one time.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I'm shooting people on the right side Of the law.
If you fire me, I'm gonna haveto shoot people for the
criminals, and you don't wantthat.
Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
But it's like dude, alan.
I appreciate that it was amistake, dude, but that kid Is
just dead now.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah maybe that kid was going to grow up to be a
police officer who didn't shootany children get the fuck out of
here, alan, go home.
Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Find another job like look, I can appreciate that it
was an accident, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Find another job like look, I can appreciate that it
was an accident.
That's cool.
Find another job you.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
You're not a cop anymore.
That time is gone.
I'm sorry go work it up for youyeah, you're gonna find a job
where we don't put a gun in yourhands, because when we do, you
shoot children.
Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Please stop.
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Then it'd be hold on.
Alan, I just shot another adultman who meant me harm.
I will sleep tonight if I couldfix things with my wife, which
I plan on doing throughconversation and therapy, and
that's how it would change.
Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Perfect, I think, then, I think then it would
definitely still be a holidayclassic and not people being
like what the fuck is this movie, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
movie.
This is the strangest shit I'veever seen somebody get my wife
online.
Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Hey, I'm so sorry I didn't support you in your
career.
You know I'm seeing you hereworking with all these you know
high power people.
I see you're really in yourelement.
I should have been, you know Ishould.
You here working with all theseyou know high-powered people?
I see you're really in yourelement.
I should have been, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
I should have been more supportive.
Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
LA is a great town.
What I've seen of it, I thinkI'm going to move out of here.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I'd like to come out here and I'd like to support you
as well.
I'm sure LA Hold on, babe.
I'm sure LAPD Some guy was justfiring at the hip at me missed
every shot, but I'm sure LAPDhas a spot for me.
Fuck, I'm sure fucking any townsurrounding LA.
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
I was just talking to a child killer they hired.
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
so I mean we can make this work.
If you want to make this work,let's make it work.
I'm happy to support yourdreams, hold on Hold on Ben.
It's weird German dude justtrying to high kick me Also not
a child, alan.
Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
And that's how it would be so this movie got a
four.
Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Yeah, this movie gets what we got a four.
But I think that we gotta watchsome good movies that all of us
are gonna love soon, becausesomething's got to beat this
fucking has to be well, but Ithink, though, that our system
speaks to the fact that we couldnot like a movie.
Us is, you know, you and me andit be it's an alright movie,
(01:07:51):
like you know, yeah, I think itspeaks to that.
Like, yeah, like yeah, I'mgoing gonna rewatch Die Hard a
couple more times.
Am I gonna be excited about it?
No, do I think Alan needs to befired immediately?
Yeah, do I think Bruce Willisshould bring his weapon up to
(01:08:13):
his eye and talk to his wifeyeah, I do probably a good idea
both on both counts um.
Should you listen again?
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I don't know.
I don't know.
There's something about thismovie that I don't get.
I don't get it.
Please, somebody fuckingexplain it to me.
I don't get it.
Please somebody fucking explainit to me.
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Our fucking international audience needs to
get the fuck down here.
Email me something.
God damn, ryan Barron North,I'm everywhere.
High and Dry Podcast.
We're all over the place.
Actually, if you're listeningto this right now, there's a
link on Buzzsprout where you cantext us Really.
Yeah, that's a link onbuzzsprout where you can text us
(01:09:00):
Really.
Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
So yeah, that's a thing you can text you can text
high and dry podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Um, you can support the show.
You could do all these sorts ofthings, um, just from our
breast sprout website.
So yeah, take a look, that'spretty awesome, did you also?
Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
did you know diehard was adapted from a book?
Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
yes, I did actually I didn't know that I'm gonna
honestly wonder if the book'sfucking boring.
You know what?
Uh was also adapted from a bookfeaturing bruce willis.
The fifth element yeah, Ididn't know that, I just took a
guess yeah, the fifth elementand wow, honestly, I would rate
(01:09:41):
fifth element above diehard yeah, we've.
Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
We've watched a lot of movies that I would rate
above diehard, but it was beforethe rating system we just don't
have any, we have to watchanother really good movie to
knock diehard out of the topposition.
Actually, did Starship TroopersAlso get a four?
Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I believe it did.
I don't know it might have.
Yeah, go back.
Starship Troopers is when wefirst started Doing the rating
system, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Yeah, I think that was the one we started on.
We got to watch another reallygood movie.
Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
We need a five.
Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
We need to find a high and dry five.
Yeah, I think I think galaxyquest might be it if we watch
that one.
Really, you think so I.
I bet luke hasn't seen it, lukedoesn't he said he doesn't watch
a lot of comedy movies and uh,that one's, you know, a little
bit of a cult movie it is.
We watched the other movie thatour movie group watched last.
(01:10:45):
We just watched the Faculty,which everybody loved.
We had three people who hadnever seen the Faculty and one
who'd only maybe seen it once.
We watched the Faculty and hada really good time.
Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
More fun than Die Hard and Trap.
We had a great time.
Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Because that's what I thought when we were watching
Trap.
I was like man, I really wishthis was the Faculty.
Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
I find when I watch most movies, I'm God.
I wish this was the Faculty JonStewart gets his fingers cut
off and they all scurry away.
At least we can laugh at it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
It was a really playful movie.
The movie was like it wasn't,it wasn't up in some ass.
It was really playful abouteverything, which made it fun
yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Hey, well, well, that's the goal.
Um, I think, uh, the goal fromnow on, listeners at home.
Uh, we're gonna try and bringyou high and dry fives and uh,
because we we watch movieslately and like, wow m night,
jesus christ, dude, what thefuck?
Stop writing movies, justdirect it man, just stop it man.
(01:12:02):
So, yeah, I think that shouldbe the goal.
Um, next episode after this sothis is christmas eve.
You're talking about die hard.
You're probably watching diehard while you do it.
Um, the next episode after thatwill be trap, and then after
that, I thought it was gonna bemuppets, christmas, carol, or
was that?
Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
is that not gonna happen now?
Well, I'm too far behind, thatcould be our new year's movie.
Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
We'll try, we'll do our best.
I'm totally down becausethat'll be a five for me okay I
can tell you right now do what?
Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
what new year's movies are there?
Like?
Is get him to the greek?
A new year's movie?
I can't remember if that'sdon't make me watch that I don't
want to watch it.
Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Okay, I'm just trying to think of new year's movies
muppet, christmas, carol, it isall right, everybody.
Hey, thanks for listening.
This is high and dry podcast.
I'm ryan baron north, with me,as always, james grassland.
Uh, bye bye.
I feel like I don't have.
I mean, we've all seen thismovie a million fucking times
and I have not.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This was the first time I've ever watched this
movie through no kidding,beginning to end yeah.
I know right no wonder you'reso goddamn progressive
interesting, I still have to saythat guy interesting, I still
have to say that, hey, everybody, and merry christmas eve, or
(00:30):
whatever it is you'recelebrating this evening.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Welcome to high and dry podcast, the only podcast
keeping alive the fandom of uhthat 80s, the uh, the uh.
Fuck, what was the name of thatshow with the 80s show.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Really the, the, the like the spinoff of that 70s
show.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh, that was terrible .
I meant I love the eighties, oh.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I love the eighties.
Oh man, I watched so much.
I love the.
I love the eighties.
It's come up in conversationseveral times this month.
I don't know what nostalgiathing we're doing where
everybody's looking back, but Ilove the 80s come up several
times and, yeah, I liked that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I watched that show, for sure.
I watched it too, and it wasweird because, like I wasn't
even I didn't have any fuckingidea what they were talking
about and it was just like anexcuse to put Michael Ian Black
on in front of a camera.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, you mentioned Michael Ian Black.
That's, one of the reasons hecame up was because he's on.
He's a panelist on a cnn show,uh, that's like a uh, an
american version of a britishshow called have I got news for
you?
And it's hoisted by roy wood jr, who's very funny.
He was on the daily show for along time and it's got amber
(01:43):
ruffin and michael ian black.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
There's three of them michael ian black to me was
just always very off-putting heis he's.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They play that up so well because he, he likes, he,
he takes a lot of counterpointsor is like but what about?
Horrible, weird thing?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
huh, okay, well and well.
Then they also did the uh Ilove the 70s, and then the I
love the 90s, just trying tocash in on it, but I don't think
it ever.
It went down that way well,anyway.
So fucking out off the wall,though it was a bizarre time, it
was a bizarre time.
So, anyway, everybody, welcometo high and dry podcast.
(02:22):
We won't actually be talkingabout I love the 80s we might.
This is a movie that came out in1988, what we're actually going
to be talking about, um,because it is, uh, christmas eve
when this is dropping.
Thank you for spending yourchristmas eve not with your
family, friends and loved ones,but with us.
You thick kings, you, um, thankyou so much.
(02:46):
We love our thin kings also.
Yeah, and our medium size kingsand the medium yep and the plus
, all of them, all of them, justjust all the kings we only like
kings though but kings is alsogender neutral.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, any kind of monarch, anybody
who has their place at the topof a hierarchy.
Those are the people that welove.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Obviously.
So tonight we're going to betalking about Die Hard.
I'm your host, Ryan Baron North, With me, as always, James
Crosland.
Hi we're going to dive right oninto this thing.
So tonight we're going to betackling Die Hard.
All right.
Every year, the one thing thatmillennials have brought to this
world is that every year weargue about whether or not this
(03:35):
is a Christmas movie.
And tonight we're going tosettle it, and we're going to do
it in a three-part method.
So first we're going to ratethis movie.
We're going to tell you howgood Die Hard is definitively
All right.
Then we're going to dive intosome of the deeper thoughts that
were embedded into Die Hardthat you probably missed Finally
.
Finally, we're going to reallyunpack this thing and then,
(03:59):
finally, we're going to insertourselves into the film.
But what makes it so fun, sospecial, is that we're going to
be doing it drunk and high.
So, james, what do you?
What are you smoking on thisMary of evenings?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So I actually got a really good deal on black Friday
for weed and so I've boughtprobably a year's worth of
cannabis for me and I got like Igot like a large variety of
stuff, so finally I'm gonna havesome.
I'm gonna have some variety onthe on the podcast again.
So we got gush mints tonight.
(04:35):
It's an indica that iskaryophylline dominant and scott
limonene and humaline andlinalool, and so this should be
a very relaxing and euphoricsensation.
I would bet.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, yeah, so right in line with the emotions that
were offered up in diehard youknow we'll get to it, but all
right.
Well, I'll be joining you with aknob Creek selection tonight.
I've been on a knob Creek kindof thing lately, um, but this
one is a single barrel selectWith a Knob Creek selection
tonight.
(05:08):
I've been on a Knob Creek kindof thing lately, but this one is
a single barrel select that'sjust called Good Hits, I don't
fucking know Distilled in 2015.
This is 120 horsepower, so it'sgoing to get me where I need to
be Rather quickly, right beforebed.
That's good.
My heart's going to be justbeating all the way until 3 in
the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's going to be just beating all the way till
three in the morning.
That's going to be awesome,poisoning me.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I'll just be lying there in the dark, unable to
actually fall asleep.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You'll be unconscious , constantly digesting more
poison.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So I'll be unconscious, not getting any
actual restful sleep.
Merry Christmas.
So here's our first one, thisfirst shot, this first toast,
this one goes out to our filmDie Hard, cheers, cheers, that
is spicy John McTiernan movie.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
By the way, I was pretty excited when I saw that
because, uh, you know johnmctiernan has done some good
movies.
He did predator.
He did, uh, he did thomas crownaffair, which was pretty famous
for like the pierce brosnan ona boat scene I know they were
looking to do a predator uhcrossover with that one.
(06:22):
With Thomas Crown Affair, wherethe billionaire thief
encounters the Predator on oneof his.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Correct.
I know that's what they weregoing for.
They just could never find thefunding and at the time Danny
Glover was just too powerful andPredator did that.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know, in that Call of Cthulhu game we played
where where my characterdisrupted everything he was.
He was based on pierce brosnanfrom the thomas crown affair in
in like it's like not not ahundred percent, obviously his,
his demeanor was way different,but like I, he was a rich art
thief who stole for the joy ofstealing and not because he
(07:04):
needed anything, and he built upall these skills around
stealing.
I'd base it on him, huh.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Wow Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I might have to go back and watch that movie.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Well, well, this, this second one goes out to the,
uh, the predator crossoversthat should have, could have,
would have.
Um, here's to those cheers,cheers, oh man.
So, on the second, go around umit.
(07:36):
Like you feel this one at thefront of your mouth, oh, okay,
yeah, for those of you curious,you know, if you want to feel it
in the back of the throat or onthe front of your teeth.
Um, this is a front of yourteeth, kind of one, right on the
tip of the tongue that soundsenjoyable I don't know, I
(08:00):
couldn't tell you Well eitherway, you're not enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Is that the review so far?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's got a.
It's got an interesting flavor,because I've just I've recently
been tackling, tackling another120 proofer from Knob Creek
that I enjoyed that didn't havethe same kind of standout flavor
.
It's like it's like the I don'tknow what you call him, but the
distillery master uh ashed hiscigarette in the barrel at the
(08:29):
end and I just keep kind ofcatching that oh, it's just
really really smoky.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
This one, yeah, very smoky.
I hate smoky.
Like it when it's too smoky.
It's so unappealing.
I like smoke flavored stuff,but tone it the fuck down, guys.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
This one's a little smoky.
Well, this final one goes outto our newest listeners out
there, and we actually have afew to jump around from.
We got ones coming at us fromSan Francisco, we have some from
Madrid, we have a few inChelsea, alabama, we have
another one in Acre, northDistrict, wherever, and then one
in Malaga, malaga.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And Gainesboro, Lincolnshire.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Did you say Acer A-C-E-R?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, no, it's Acre A-C-R-E.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Oh, is it Acre In Syria?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Nope I think, oh, is it.
Akra the in in syria?
Uh, nope, I think, uh, oh, isit israel where is it at?
Oh, it's israel, I don't know.
We so we we saw, we saw viewerson this.
Uh, when we were just bashingdenzel, we got, uh, viewers from
israel, france, spain, unitedUnited Kingdom, australia and
Germany all crammed in there.
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What?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
the fuck.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Our biggest viewership came out of Germany.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Wow, that's wild.
What the fuck is going on.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Are people listening to?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
us on VPNs or something maybe.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Could be.
Could be, or just Germanyfucking hates denzel washington
um international audience.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
If you're, if you're out there and you're listening
to this, you got to reach out toryan baron north on where
where's the way to reach you now, ryan baron north?
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I'm the only one he's the only.
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He's the only, ryan baron north, reach out, tell him
.
Tell him how you found us,please, and why you listened and
, if you liked it.
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Yeah, I would love to know.
I would love to know.
So yeah, here's to ourinternational listeners Cheers,
cheers.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Merry Christmas.
What the fuck are you doinghere?
Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah?
I don't know, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Kwanzaa.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
All the things, all those dudes are crushing it.
You're all crushing it, notfucking crushing it.
All right.
So it's time to dive into thefirst part of this podcast.
All right, we're gonna breakdown die hard.
All right, everyone's favoritefucking action movie and we're
gonna tell you if you aredelusional or if it is actually
a good movie.
Um, we're going to do it in amethod.
We're going to break this thingdown into five little parts.
We're going to rate it on ascale of one to five on story,
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acting, cinematography, scoreand re-watchability.
All right, we're going toaverage those things together
and we're going to give you thedefinitive five star well, hold
on, it was scoring actingcinematography score and rewatch
ability okay I got it so, ohjeez, I need to just have a
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post-it note well, we're justgonna bounce back and forth here
.
So, uh, die hard.
The uh, the classic story.
James, I have to start withstory yeah, oh well, I thought
this.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I thought the story was uh, it left a little to be a
little.
It left me a little wanting inthe year 2024.
Um, I maybe, I maybe wish I sawthis movie, you know, when I
was younger or whatever, and hada more emotional attachment to
it, but the story was to me, allright, the uh.
I thought the dialogue wasmostly bad.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I thought that we're not on acting, writing, nothing
like that.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yet story is.
I mean, yeah, I feel likedialogue is part of story.
Maybe maybe that should be moreunderacting.
Um, but it turned out they werejust thieves.
I was like when they evenpointed out in the story like
this is all just a robbery, likethat's what all this is for and
and legitimately, that's like areally, uh, great point, they
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legitimately at their start waslike, oh yeah, they did.
They were like let's murder abunch of people and shit for for
a robbery.
We're gonna murder a buildingfull of people, or whatever huh,
I've all.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You just gave me a, a golden path, but we'll do that
in the next stage.
So what would you rank thediehard story out of five?
I?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
don't think it was like.
Well, I don't know In thecontext of the time, I wish
someone who had a moreattachment than me went first.
I was the person coming in late.
Well, I like that we couldbounce it back and forth.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I think that you know , look, the diehard fans of this
thing are fucking delusional.
All right, All right, and it'stime that that gets on record.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So so I'd heard, I'd heard about, I've seen clips of
diehard and I've seen themashups of diehard and the
memeification of it and so Iunderstood the story, the core
story, pretty pretty, you know,generally.
Uh, I didn't feel like Ilearned that much more or that
the twists were just sounbelievable or whatever.
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It was pretty rote for nowadaysstories, uh.
So I'd give it like a two.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
A two, okay, all right.
Well, there you go, it was long.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It was a long story.
It was so long, it was over twohours.
That story could have been toldin 80 minutes and I would have
been like die hard, it's thebest fucking movie ever.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Okay, all right, a little long, stretched it out a
little bit, okay, alright, yeah,for me, you know, I the story
is simple and I would definitelyagree that, yeah, we didn't
need that much time On it.
The story is very simple.
Um, I think there's a lot Iwant to unpack In the story in
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the second part of this, but Iwill also say about Simple
stories.
Um, it's like some of the bestsongs are the simplest.
You know three chords,memorable melody, you know just
something that gets stuck inyour head, and I think that's
why maybe this one is solongevity-ing.
(15:03):
Yeah, I could see that beingthe case as far as story goes.
I mean, like you know, if we'retalking, the top is, you know
fucking, you know godfather andum, citizen kane and all that
kind of fucking shit.
Um, avatar three, three.
Avatar was a diehard ass story.
(15:25):
All right, that was.
I'm not going to get into it.
I'm not going to get into thestudio.
All right, avatar left a lot tobe desired in a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I'm just going to say , best story of all time,
according to the box office.
Fucking dances with wolvesanyway, oh my god and this
should just go off the r rating.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Just show us, show us the blue breasts yeah, we
wanted to see the kitty kittiesyes, come on, all right, anyway.
Uh, I'm gonna give it a three.
I'm gonna give it a threesimple as that I give it a three
middle of the road, like, yeah,it's not the best story in the
world, it's not the best storyin the world, but let's talk.
You felt it was confidentlyexecuted yeah, yeah, it
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obviously was.
I mean it's been, you know, Ithink I think in part two is
when we'll really unpack whythis thing has lasted so long,
and I have some interestingcomparisons on 80s culture
compared to its sort ofresurgence right now, especially
in toxicity.
But we'll get to that later.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So you know what?
You know what I find very funnyyou mentioned, like you know,
the story holds up and stuff andyou know at least it's
confidently done.
But I got to tell you I thinkmaybe this kind of movie is not
for me, because Shara actuallygets on me like she, she laughs
at me all the time, because Ilike pause movies, like during
explosions, like it happens allthe time.
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It's like when I'm like, okay,I gotta, like I feel like I need
to get up and do something.
it's always like during anexplosion or some kind of climax
of action and it's like that'swhere I'm feeling bored, like I
felt like the movie did not,like I feel like there's a way
to competently write action in astory that makes me engaged,
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but when you just rely onexplosions and like you know,
and car chases and stuff, itdoesn't.
I think that's why I gave it toto.
I just wanted to justify myselfbecause you kind of triggered
no, I feel you, it makes sense,it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Um, no, no, I I think that, uh, you and I, I think
generally, we sort of, it seemswe sort of drift closer towards
maybe taut sexy thrillers, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I like a taut sexy thriller, absolutely yeah, a
Thomas Crown affair, if you will.
A taut sexy thriller well,let's talk acting.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, who fucking brought it?
Bruce Willis was great, Ithought.
Bruce.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Willis did a really good job.
I mean he launched it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
He launched a career as uh, you know, he launched a
career as this every man, notevery man, it's the every man we
all thought we could be like.
Our delusional minds allowed usto accept that I could be this
impending divorcee man.
He's not really focused on hisabs.
(18:28):
He's not sylvester stalloningit.
He's not arnoldschwarzeneggering it.
He's just a dude.
His hairline is fucking gone.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Um but the 19 year old flight attendant will still
check you out on your way offthe plane, right, you still get.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You still got that danger, you know you know people
, just don't mistake, don'tmistake my kindness for weakness
, ma'am all right, I'm glad I'mI'm fucking glad that john
mcclain didn't have a facebook.
Um, it would be a.
It would be a fucking nightmare, but uh, he sold it.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
He sold it yeah, he did sell it.
Yeah, he sold it.
And alan rickman, I've people,people always say, you say he's
fantastic.
I thought honestly it was, thatwas shit.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I people always I think it was supposed to be.
I don't think it was.
It was like dude, you're likedude, you're a comic book
villain.
You're a comic book villain.
Fucking, do it.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh yeah, maybe I wasn't.
I wasn't so impressed, but Iknow it's a beloved role for him
and people love him in thatrole and when they see Alan
Rickman they think Hans Gruber,yeah, but, but it doesn't have
dogma.
Oh, you think Dogma?
Yeah, it's got Metatron.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, I thought he was awesome in that, honestly,
he was I thought that were,because like first he was Hans
Gruber and just super railroadedinto this comic bookie villain
and then after that he was Snapeand Snape sucks he's an asshole
.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, and we don't talk about it.
He did a great job with thecharacter, though he did a great
job he did, and I think that'swhat happened with Hans Gruber.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I think that's what happened with him.
Well, that's the thing.
What was weird is there waslike this redemption arc where,
like oh, he was a nice guy thewhole time and in love with
Italy.
No, no, like oh, he was a niceguy the whole time and in love
with italy.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, no, he was a toxic nice guy the whole fucking
time.
Well, we learned a lot about jkrowling and it really uh makes
sense.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Now, yeah, uh, it makes sense, and that I always
think of alan.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh good, no, no you go.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, just that, her, uh, you know that, her fucking
lead character, that you knowthe little asshole that launched
a, a billion in book sales, um,was a c student.
Given everything, becomes a cop.
Yeah, that's our hero, that'sexactly right but uh anyway, um
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my alan rickman.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It's always galaxy quest.
That, that's what I think.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh, fantastic yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, yeah, but low price.
He was incredible in Galaxy.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Quest.
I think Galaxy Quest is one ofthe most underrated films.
Yeah, yeah, not even not evenTim Allen could ruin it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I seriously like we've started like kind of an
old movie night with a group ofNot even Tim Allen could ruin it
.
Seriously, we've started likekind of an old movie night with
a group of Cindy's friends andnext time I'm going to suggest
Galaxy Quest.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I think they'd love it.
It even has Justin Long inthere no-transcript.
Um called sigourney weaver yesand weaver, she's looking
fantastic in that point uhrockwell sam rockwell, yep, yep,
yep um tony shalhoub.
Yeah, tony shalhoub.
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Oh, my god um yeah, nofantastic movie.
Anyway, go watch galaxy quest.
Yeah, watch galaxy than DieHard.
He's great acting, you'll seeAlan Rickman kill it.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, he's doing hammy acting, but with a
self-awareness Like, if you wantto.
That's the reason why I havetrouble giving this like a super
high score is because I've seenhow good he can do it.
He can do it so much betterit's.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Galaxy.
It's roles like galaxy questthat make me think that.
So, like hans gruber, thedirector said, hey, you're a
comic book villain.
And then galaxy quest, thedirector's like, hey, you're, uh
, you know, just a sci-fifucking trope and you're sick of
it.
And he was able to, yeah, andhe was able to do.
Yeah, he, just he's able to dowhatever you fucking toss him
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into.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah for acting.
I'd give this a three and ahalf or four, I guess let's just
get.
Let me just give it a fourbecause we round up around.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
OK, all right, yeah, for me, I, yeah.
I think you know this launchedBruce Willis.
You know he's the first actorto sell his AI likeness.
Really, before he, like beforethe dimension, everything took
over he, he sold his image nice,we'll see how that turns out.
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I don't know if anyone wasreally clamoring for that image
at the end, but hey, who knows?
Yeah, who knows, maybe we wantto see him again.
Yeah, for the acting.
I think Bruce Willis wasawesome.
I think I liked.
I liked it for what it was andI'm going to go with you and I'm
going to do the four as well.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
So let's talk cinematography.
I thought the cinematographywas, uh, pretty good and I think
that this movie was pre-steadycam and you know you saw you
could see a lot of movement ofthe camera person, but it gave
it.
It gave it like a more personalfeel.
This came from a time beforemovies did this jump cut combat,
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you know, like where people getinto fistfights.
There's like cut, cut, cut, cutto cut to an elbow and they cut
to a hand, then cut to theirfaces.
You know it was.
It was a time where we wherethe camera person was actually
following the action had to getit all and, um, I liked it.
It felt pretty personal.
It was a little rough aroundthe edges though at times, um,
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we got, we.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Uh, you know, the cinematographer did a really
good job showing bruce willis'sfeet oh yeah, he loved them show
this is actually one of uh,this was one of uh tarantino's
actually first roles, like wherehe was credited um and they put
him behind the camera I didn'teven have to give him any tokens
(24:54):
, he just kept showing me hisfeet uh, tarantino, you're gonna
kill it in this town.
And off he went.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, cinematography, though I thought they had some
good shots.
The vent scene is pretty,pretty classic.
Yeah, you know they had reallygood blocking, like I felt.
I feel like I feel likeMcTiernan does an excellent job
with blocking a scene where he,where he places like the
environment around people andthe environment around people,
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he makes the space reallynavigable.
The floors that were underconstruction, you had an idea of
where everybody was.
Sometimes he'd play a fun gamewith the environment.
I thought the cinematographywas pretty good.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I also give it a four , okay, yeah, so I also enjoyed
it.
The scene in particular that Ithink of was when Bruce Willis
is underneath the executivetable and the terrorist is above
it.
Terrorist is above it.
(26:10):
I felt that they did a prettygood job of like, like, I like,
I liked how it it took this ceo,you know upper echelon, you
know top of the city, la, um,and I liked seeing, I thought it
was well done, I liked it a lot, um.
But then there were some sceneswhere I felt there was a lot of
strange open space, like, uh,when he finally hangs the one
terrorist, yeah, and it's justlike this sort of this wide shot
(26:34):
of, yeah, and he's off to theside, yeah, like it looked like
a halloween, like a hauntedhouse at that point.
Um, so you know, but so, yeah,I would also have to give it a
four, um, just because I thoughtit was really good.
I liked a lot of it, I liked alot of the work on it, um, but
just every once in a while therewas something that was just
reminded me that, oh, this isstill the 80s, they weren't
(26:56):
quite where we should be at.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
That, uh was still fantastic did a pretty good job
for the stuff at their disposal,you know definitely that's the
thing that I'll give a four tosomeone who's trying hard on
cinematography and doing thesmall things that other, like
current studios seem to begrappling with being able to do.
You know cinema like any kind ofblocking or any kind of
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interesting shots.
I gave trap a good score forthe set, you know for its
cinematography, because it wastrying things and it was doing.
It was doing the basic shitthat makes cinematography good,
definitely.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh yeah, no, I agree Agreed.
So four on there, all right.
So let's talk about the score,the music.
How did it?
How did it make you feel?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So I I had high hopes because of the diagenic music
sequence at the beginning wherehe turns the you know radio on
in the car he took in the limoturns the radio on in the limo
and the radio begins to play forus.
Like it, it does double duty,as like in the story, and you
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know, uh, and for the audience,first movie score, and so I had
high hopes for that, and thenafter that I didn't notice the
score at all.
Okay, and so you didn't likeChristmas and Hollis by run DMC.
I don't know I missed itentirely.
I I honestly I was pretty boredthroughout this movie, so I I
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took a lot of I was able tothroughout this movie, so I, I
took a lot of.
I was able to take notes onacting instead of talking to
stuff, but I just I just spacedon score.
It didn't touch me at all inone way or another, so I don't
know in a yeah Okay.
Give it an.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
N a score.
All right, yeah, and I wouldsay at the, the beginning of the
action sequences, I could feelthe swell I did like the, I did
like Christmas and Hollis beingin there and it's one of the
reasons why I'll argue that itis a Christmas movie.
Was it the?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
first song Was that.
The song that I heard when Iwas like this is a like this is
going to be good.
It was like it was probably,that was probably, it don't
remember probably.
Let's say so, that was probablyit.
That was being played on theradio and I was like, all right,
let's go you know, yeah, yeah,no, yeah, without a um.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, that was yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
They say they say christmas like 40 fucking times
and the last line of the movieis about christmas.
It's obviously a christmasmovie, guys yeah, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, yeah, without a doubt, but we'll save that for
the last 10 minutes.
Um, so anyway, um, yeah, for myscore, I'm just gonna give it a
three.
Um, it did what it was supposedto.
It didn't leave the movie insilence, and I like christmas
and hollis, so it is what it is.
So, finally, rewatch abilitywhere you at in a.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't think this movie was for me.
I don't know what to say.
I know people want to watchthis movie and for many people
this is a rewatchable movie.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I watch it once a fucking year, but who watches it
in?
June.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I don't know, I have no idea, I don't.
I've never seen this moviebecause I was really like I
think I've got the gist of thismovie.
And it turns out I did have thegist of this movie, uh, and so
I don't need to watch it everagain if I ever get the where
(30:17):
I'm ever like, oh yeah, I, Iwant to.
I want to watch die hard, I'llwatch.
Uh, there's a youtuber or there.
She worked for funny or die andshe did a series for funny or
die where she, where she wouldget drunk and watch movies and
she would do like a live watchof movies and then she'd cut it
down to the best parts and itwas called tam gets drunk and
(30:38):
watches.
And if I ever want to watch diehard, I'll go watch that
because it hits all the keyparts, it's enjoyable, and then
I, and then I feel like I'veseen die hard pretty much.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, no, you ain't wrong um and uh.
So, or you can listen to thispodcast there you go.
Well, my question uh, rememberlast christmas, uh, when I gave
you my heart um, we did, uh, wedid.
The one where santa was anordic entity oh yes, john
(31:10):
leguizamo.
Yeah, I remember that, whichwould you rather watch, oh like.
So like christmas eve istonight and so you've got to
decide on a movie that you'regoing to put on while you
fucking rip in bourbon andeggnog.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I probably watched die hard again.
Die hard is more competentlydone, I think.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I did not like that.
Is it John Leguizamo's fault?
John Leguizamo did not do agreat job in that movie, If I
remember correctly.
I feel like you really phoned itin, if I like, from what I
remember in this movie don'tquote me, go listen to the other
podcast, I guess but I feltlike that movie was really
phoned in.
I don't think I had a bunch offun with it, but I'd rather
(31:57):
watch this movie, even though Ijust saw it.
I'd rather watch Die Hard againand be like maybe I missed
something, maybe you mean, okay,just out of curiosity.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Alright, well, I have seen die hard.
I don't know how many times I,you know, I, I 11.
Yeah, that sounds accurate.
That sounds accurate.
So, um, and it has become sortof a you know, a, a tradition
for a lot of people.
Um, and if you told me tonightlike, hey, man, uh, come on over
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, uh, we're gonna, we're gonnachill, we're gonna, shoulda,
coulda, would of our lives,drink a little bit and I'm gonna
have diehard on on thebackground, like all right, cool
, um, I'll watch it the 12thtime, um, and next year I'll
probably watch it the 13th time.
So I would honestly say therewatch ability, then, is a five
, because I've seen it moretimes than I have fingers and I
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will probably see it more timesthan I have fingers.
Again, um, I've probably seendie hard not as much as rush
hour, two, um, but but, and notas much as shanghai nights, but,
or noon, what about big trouble, little china, or big trouble,
little china, but it's rightafter there.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So um, what about?
What about predator?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
it's after that too, but what about?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
what about underworld ?
What?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
about Underworld.
It's above Underworld, it'sabove Underworld.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
So for that I gotta give it a five Die.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Hard is under.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Underworld.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
for me You've had to watch Underworld.
I I've seen underworld moretimes k back in sales underworld
.
Oh shit, oh my god.
Well, so with that being thecase, as far as talent, high and
dry podcast gives die Hard a3.6.
We round up around here becausewe're nice guys like that.
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Die Hard gets a 4 out of 5.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Abomination Maybe we should start rounding down to
the.
Our system is destroyed.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
We start rounding down to the half.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I'd give it a 3.5.
It's gotta be rounded all theway down to3.
I gotta stop voting NA.
I should have voted with myheart and really destroyed this
movie.
That everyone loves.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You gave us a lot of N8s, which allowed it to
maintain a strong score.
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I don't care, none of this matters.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
It's definitive, though, and you can't argue it.
You can never argue it again.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Also, it doesn't matter, alright.
So there you go, folks.
Um, die hard gets a four out offive.
Congratulations, die hard.
The.
The indecision of one of ourvoters allowed you to maintain a
very strong score, if I'm notmistaken, the strongest score
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since we started scoring.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, I think this is possibly the strongest movie
we've scored.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's depressing, but it makes sense, because this
was a better movie than Trap.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, trap had me more engaged, but I didn't feel
like I'd seen Trap yet.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
But you were engaged in a way where, like just
fucking M Night Shyamalan wasjust fucking dick slapping you
and you were wondering if he wasgonna stop and then I turned to
you with him slapping his dickin my face and I'm like I'm
engaged right now, exactly, I'mpretty engaged which is a normal
(36:08):
way to feel when someone'sfucking smacking you with their
dick.
I love how uh m night shamalonuh came back to hear this
episode and we're still talkingshit.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, yeah, well, anyway, um so it's time for the
second part of this thing.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
It's time to dive to hear this episode, and we're
still talking shit.
Yeah, yeah, well, anyway, um.
So it's time for the secondpart of this thing.
It's time to dive into thedeeper meaning of diehard Um.
So, before we do that, it'stime to get a little more drunk,
it's time to get a little morehigh.
Let's line them up, ooh, causeI I do have some thoughts.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I do, oh, because I, I do have some thoughts, I do,
do you?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
yeah, do you want to go first?
Sure, okay, all right, here'sto uh the higher thoughts of uh.
Now, here's to m night shamlonsmacking you with his dick with
another movie.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Thanks for keeping my attention.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I'm not bored.
I'm not happy.
I'm not happy that this ishappening, but I am engaged, I
am engaged.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
He's doing his job.
He's doing his job.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Wish he'd stop calling me a good boy.
All right, so it's time to getonto the golden path.
I feel like we're there.
Yeah, I got four ounces of 120horsepower whiskey flowing
through in my I'm throwingflowing through my blood.
Um, so let's talk about thehigher thoughts that were behind
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diehard.
And uh, the first thing, um,this thing, this thing was a, a
crossfade album.
Before we had crossfade.
This was a creed album.
Before creed came out, um, thiswas, you know, fucking three
days, grace divorced dad.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I wasn't sure where you're going
with it, but yeah, divorced dadrock but a movie this was
divorce.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Dad rack in a movie.
Um, you know where.
You know she's the bad one.
She's the bad one for havingambition.
Um, she's the bad one for notwanting to fucking drag you
around.
You're the good one for being acop.
Um, we hate the press.
The press are fucking animalsand monsters.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
That's true, journalists are terrible.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Journalists are terrible, and I thought that was
weird Because I've been seeinga lot of things pop up on the
various social medias lately Oflike a celebration that, uh, you
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could use the word retard again.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I mean who said like one, who said that you couldn't,
and two who's saying that youcan, who's saying you can't do
it.
There are people who are saying, hey, you know, using that word
when you say that makes my sonor daughter, who has a learning
(39:37):
disability, feel like anoutsider and it would be great
if you didn't do that.
And then there's another personsaying say whatever the fuck
you want, who cares what anybodyfeels?
Fuck that kid.
And you're like, oh, thank god,someone is finally telling me
(39:57):
that I give a shit about anyoneanymore yeah and uh, I'm seeing
this.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Uh, I mean especially , you know, we had that last
election.
Yep, uh, there was an electionrecently yeah, there was an
election recently, believe it ornot.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And so I'm seeing this vast.
It's like a lot of people feelthat permission has been granted
to be a dick bag.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Why are you always asking people for permission?
If you were a dick already,whatever you're a dick you don't
need, I would rather you didn'task for permission to be a dick
.
I'd rather you weren't a dickby your own volition.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
but why are?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
you?
Why are you asking forpermission to be a dick?
What kind of loser fuckingasked for permission to be a
dick?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
it's because they need that validation and they
need the okay um, because theydon't believe or want to be the
bad guy in the argument.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
So so it's like a, so it's like a self-delusion that
because they've got permission,that they are in the right like
inherently so.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Now that they can be the good guy again, they don't
like god.
It wasn't.
It wasn't that I'm a dick.
It wasn't that I'm a dick, it'sthat everyone around me has
become too sensitive.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
That's such fucking low energy thought Mm-hmm.
Yeah, these people need to burntheir calories on thinking.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
It's endemic, and so what I'm seeing here is a return
to a lot of the old stuff, andone of the things that Kaye
motherfucker.
Well, one of the things thatstruck me as interesting was how
blatantly evil press wasportrayed.
(41:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah and.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Just self-serving anything for a story, like it's
not capital, or or like you knowthe way careers are structured,
that that created this systemwhere a reporter has to be like
I need to be at the center ofaction immediately to advance my
career or I'm gonna be stuckyou doing shitty stuff my whole
(42:16):
life.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
But but by by doing this, this narrative of what a
reporter is, you know, the oneswho are telling us, hey, the
person you like is behaving likea dickbag, are now just
universally wrong.
You know you could do anything,you're going to do anything for
a story.
You're knocking on the door ofthat one place.
But then it was alsointeresting to see this strange
(42:47):
blend of what a dick bag is.
So we see him roll up to thehouse he's the dick bag.
He's part of journalism, he's apiece of shit.
But then he threatens to havethis woman deported.
He's a piece of shit, yeah, andit's like that's now that that
guy is now two sides of thisstrange little american aisle in
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one dude at this woman's doorlike he's a piece of shit, part
of the press, and he's a pieceof shit for trying to get an
innocent woman deported I bet alot of people who love this
movie love the idea of doinganything to that.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
That that, uh, the ends make the means what's,
how's it go?
The ends justify the means.
Like they're those kind ofpeople and they would.
They would probably fuckingthreaten so to get someone
deported to get what they wanted.
If you, if they were like, Iwould never actually call them.
I'm just threatening them, it'sjust.
(43:47):
It's just, you know, to getwhat I want.
It's not like I'm gonnaactually do it.
Oh yeah, they don't think ofthemselves as bad guys.
They're just like I'm justgonna do.
I'm gonna do anything in mymeans to get the thing I want,
because it's doggy dog out hereyeah, yeah, which, yeah, it's,
uh, it's this perpetuatingcircumstance that, uh, yeah,
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makes everything really sad.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
um, yeah and no.
Then it like I feel what'swhat's weird is?
I think that there's thisstrange reversal when it comes
to looking back at Die Hard,where you look at other movies
and you're like wow, that didn'tage well, yeah.
(44:31):
And then you look at Die Hardand go go wow, we didn't age
that well, we made this worsethan it was yeah, that's pretty
interesting.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I hadn't thought about that we made this bad.
Now, like 2024, made this bad Iloved that there were no gay or
trans jokes in this movie.
So often when you look back atat movies from that time, they
really they take a very easytarget on gay and trans people
(45:10):
and I was waiting for like acrocodile dundee moment or some
bullshit like that Predator hasa one gay joke, I think, and I
was like, oh, come on the firstfive minutes.
Yeah, like, oh, come, come onPredator.
But this one this one didn'thave any, and I was really
(45:31):
impressed by that.
Yeah, we slid, we slidbackwards from diehard, from
diehard.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
We are.
Yeah, we slid, we slidbackwards from diehard, from
diehard.
We are less progressive nowthan diehard, um, and it's, it's
strange because, like, thelines of just the morality of it
have been completely blurred.
Yeah, you know, just just inthat reporter's you know
thoughts and feelings alone.
He's evil as it is, but thenhe's doing evil shit that the
people who call reporters evildo.
And meanwhile we got thisdivorcee cop out there just
(46:05):
fucking giving these thieves thetime of their lives.
Do as much violence as possibleuntil your separated wife
forgives you and takes you back,dude, and that creates such a
wild delusion in like what justyou know potential partners and
(46:27):
and women want.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
It's like yeah, fucking what.
You don't have to directlyaddress your problems in your
relationship.
You can solve the problems inyour relationship by doing other
things that you value.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, it's like dude, john McClane, what if you
didn't happen to be there whenterrorist take took over?
How would you have saved yourmarriage?
You wouldn't have.
Yeah, there would be like hewould have refused therapy.
Uh this is the one thing I dowell the only thing I can do is
just kill people without shoeson, uh, me being the one without
(47:09):
the shoes, not them, in caseyou were confused I did word
that weirdly.
I will be the one not wearingshoes.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
The terrorists I kill of course, will be wearing
shoes, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
He would have had a lot easier time if he didn't
meet that guy on the airplane.
Well, so, if you ever watch.
So after that there was DieHard 2, where he saves his wife
who's trying to divorce himagain, but this time on a plane.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Really, yes, no, I thought die hard 2 was on like a
subway and stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
I thought they had that's die hard 3 and that and
die hard 3 is where he teams upwith sam jackson and and the
divorce has finally gone throughDie hardest.
There's only so many terroristsyou can kill to make me love
you, and it's just not workinganymore.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
I have to kill a small country to get my wife
back.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
This time, dude, why don't you just talk to her?
Hell, no, Never, I would refuse.
Have you seen that that?
Speaker 2 (48:22):
woman.
Have you listened to her talk?
Um, I'll talk to terrorists andthe audience and then we'll
just we'll pretend, like I didthat with my wife and then, uh,
when they returned with Die Hard4, like Die Harder or whatever,
the fuck Live Free or Die Hard,live Free or yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
It was With that one actor that they tried to force
on us, but it just wasn'thappening.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
I don't know, but I know Kevin Smith was in one of
the later ones.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Kevin Smith Well no, so Die Hard 4,.
So then they introduced JustinLong.
Oh yeah, justin Long.
It was this movie about how theold ways need to survive.
Because you can't do everythingwith a computer, sometimes you
need a divorcee willing to killa bunch of people.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, this is the one I watched.
This one has Kevin Smith.
It also has Mary ElizabethWinstead and Timothy Oliphant,
the bad guy.
This was the first Die Hard Isaw.
Oh, and it was terrible.
This is the first Die Hard Isaw.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Terrible.
Well, die Hard.
5 was a good day to die hard,where we encountered Jai
Courtney.
Jai Courtney is Bruce Willis'sson who refuses to talk to the
man.
But between each movie theyjust gloss over what a fucking
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narcissistic individual johnmclean is, and then in the movie
his family forgives him becausehe kills a bunch of terrorists
yeah, nobody want.
Nobody in his family likes himor wants to be around him that's
so true there comes a pointwhere yo dude, it's not how many
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terrorists you can kill, youneed to fucking talk to a
professional don't want to, andso you'll be tolerated for that.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
You should.
You should expect beingtolerated for that, because
eventually people will sufferwithout you to to rescue them
with by by scurious means yeah,and it's just like that's not,
for.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
that's not real life, dad and right.
That's not real life and peopleneed to stop looking at this as
more than just a shitty writtenaction movie.
This is not a role model.
John McClane is not a rolemodel.
Look, we just gave this moviefour out of five.
All right, we enjoy it.
(51:11):
We're going to watch it again.
I'm going to watch it probably20 more times before I die.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
I am never going to watch this movie again.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
You know, we all say that.
We all say that I feel prettyconfident.
Um, I'll probably see it thisyear.
Um, within the next week Imight come up, but, um, do not
turn this man into a role model.
He, you know, look, at the endof the day, we all like you.
You guys all carry, like youknow, your fucking uh gun around
because you hope one day you'llbe john mcclain and all the
pieces of shit part of you willbe justified as you murder a
(51:49):
bunch of people at a walmart.
Um, yeah, it's just not gonnahappen.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Instead, work on the piece of shit parts of you yeah,
make people like you not notfor you know, because you,
because you do things that theybegrudgingly accept in order to
save their lives or whateverlike you try, try to be a joy to
be around for the people inyour life.
(52:14):
People like that.
They don't like to begrudginglykeep people in their life.
They like to emphatically thepeople in your life, people like
that.
They don't like to begrudginglykeep people in their life.
They like to emphatically keeppeople in their life.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Your likability, your tolerability shouldn't hinge on
a fantasy scenario where youkill a bunch of people because
you are the one who is braveenough to do it.
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
It's crazy that there's like legitimately people
out there who, even if theyhaven't seen this movie, still
like personify that mindset.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, you're, yeah, you being a tool.
Yeah, you're an asshole, sorry,all right.
So, with that being said, Ithink the golden path has been
walked on this one.
It's now time to get into thefinal portion of this film.
It's time to insert ourselvesinto Die Hard.
So, james, how does Die Hardchange with the introduction?
Speaker 2 (53:23):
of you.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
I think you know immediately that you're the
flight, you're the flightattendant, damn it he's like
really girl, girl why.
Sir, you cannot have a gun onthis plane, arrest this man,
john McClane, goes to jail rightoff the plane.
(53:45):
Fucking sky marshals are on him.
Being a cop does not allow youto fucking concealed.
Carry across.
Flew with a loaded gun, whatthe fuck?
Speaker 2 (54:08):
so that's it I, you know, when we have a when we,
when we have a movie that Idon't particularly like, it
seems to be my strategy on howdo I end this movie as fast as
possible.
I think I could have ended thismovie in like a minute and 15
(54:29):
seconds.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
You flew with a loaded gun.
How did you get past TSA?
Speaker 2 (54:37):
Oh shit, Either that or I'm Holly.
I guess I could be Holly.
Pretty good job.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
But I could see for you, though, if you're Holly, he
does all the murder andeverything like that, and you're
like we still all the murderand everything like that, and
you're like we still need towork on our problems don't touch
me.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
Are you ready to have a conversation yet?
No, okay, man, I need, I needsome of that.
I need some of that new yorkschlub dick.
I can't wait that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Oh god, oh man.
I mean, maybe that's somethingwe haven't addressed with Holly.
Is that something in her pastallows her to continually bring
in this toxic male?
Speaker 2 (55:41):
I think he's just good at fucking.
I think she was like you wantto come over to the house.
I think the kids would love ifyou were over at the house.
So would I.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
The kids aren't even home right now.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah, I really need to get fucked.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
My hair hasn't been doing it around the office, so
if I got a sure thing Now I cansee that Maybe John McClane is
just a really good.
He's a very giving, very giving.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
His giving to receiving ratio.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Three to one no, he's not a giving lover.
I highly doubt that.
Three to one no, I've never methim.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
He's not a giving lover, but I'm sure he seems
physically capable, he seemslike he, you know.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
So he's just athletic enough, he just wants to be
thrown around the room.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's enough for him.
These West Coast guys, theyjust want to choke you or
whatever, but they're not strongenough to to get you, to get
you around the room.
It's you where you need to be.
Yeah, they just want to chokeyou or slap you or something.
It's like come on, I lift me upand and fuck me against the
(56:51):
wall.
They can't lift you up.
They're too coked out.
They can't concentrate longenough fantastic, all right.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Well, we're figuring out a lot about john mcclain in
this episode.
He's got a really weirdsituation going on um, he's
pretty focused.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
He's got an okay sense of humor.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Good enough of a lover, the best lover she could
get to in the corporate world um, yeah, and you know, I always
got to insert myself into the amain role and I think, uh, I'd
be wearing shoes, I wouldn't beshooting from the hip that guy
tells you that, what do you?
Speaker 2 (57:35):
what do you say when that guy tells you to do that on
the plane?
Speaker 1 (57:39):
I'd be like, okay, hey, that's cool man, uh.
But see, but I'm a generallycharismatic and likable guy, so
I would like make him feel heard.
I'd be like, hey, that's reallycool, and I'm happy that that
works for you, and then I wouldnever consider it.
I, I would get off the plane,um, I wouldn't be doing the
(58:00):
thing he said you'd look at thecarpet, look at the car.
That's okay um, and uh, yeah,then it would be, uh, if these,
so the guys that he was upagainst, they were just as
action movie as he was.
Right, they were out of theirfucking minds, yeah, and so what
(58:24):
would take place after thatwould be a bunch of very smart
murders.
You know, like I'm not runningout there shoeless, or anything
like that.
It would just be like I'm goingto out there shoeless, or
anything like that.
It would just be like I'm gonnaget right down here in this
little corner, here's oneterrorist, the patau.
He's dead.
Um, because I'm aiming.
(58:45):
You see, I use this site that'son the top here.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Um, that's what that's for seems like it could
be useful yeah, I'm gonna usethis site to begin with.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, so yeah, it would be like you know, have you
ever?
You know you don't have kids,but like if you ever take a
bunch of children to like lasertag have I ever taken no, but
I've been to laser tag so itwould be like taking a bunch of
(59:21):
children to laser tag, um, whereyou know you got this thing up
here on your cheek.
You're using the site.
Oh, there's one, he's dead.
There's one he's dead whilethey're trying to do this weird
thing.
Um, like the german.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
You turn this into a serious, kill as many people as
efficiently as possible.
You do that with every movieit'd be over in 10 minutes.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
Mine would also be very fast.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
How would you if you inserted yourself into elizabeth
town?
How would you?
How would you change that?
Speaker 1 (59:55):
all right, so it'd be like you got this thing up here
and you just um, we need tostop watching movies where it's
solved with gunplay, um, um, butlike that whole table scene,
(01:00:19):
I'd just shoot him you, just,you would just quietly sit in
one area and shoot people asthey come through the door.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Yeah, that would be the whole movie.
It would cut it down to about40 minutes.
As soon as you got, as soon asyou got, a precision rifle, you
just sit in one place every oncein a while I talk to alan how
you guys doing in there.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
You want to come in and handle this yet, or I don't
know I shot a kid, but you gottaforgive me, alan.
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
No, maybe you shouldn't be a police officer
anymore, alan.
Maybe, maybe, do, maybe.
Do a job where you don't have agun.
You shot a kid.
Go somewhere, do something else.
Be a manager at a jimmy johnsor something, I don't know, but
you should not be a cop anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Oh, hold on alan.
So alan, a terrorist justrolled in and I shot him in the
head and he wasn't a child hewas an adult man.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
He was an adult man with a real gun with a real gun.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I don't know if you've ever seen one of those.
They look very different, um sooh excuse me, Alan.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Alright, so there's another one.
Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
They keep coming at me.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Unless he's a balding child.
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
They keep running at me with their gun on their hips.
They fire at me, but it justfucking hits around me.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
It's a kind of force field.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Oh my god, yeah, so it's like I have a force field.
They sent the hockey puck thingat me, but I just kind of
kicked it back still camethrough the door.
Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
They always come through the door it's very weird
.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
when this dude tried to kick me, I shot him.
Yeah, that's how it would be.
I'd be sitting in a cornershooting terrorists as they ran
in the room and trying toconvince Alan that he shouldn't
be a police officer.
You killed a child, and killinga terrorist today does not
(01:02:38):
change that.
Yeah seriously.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
You know what it's also, that also fits into the
golden path of redemptionthrough the having them there
because they save your, they'rewilling to shoot someone for you
.
It's the same thing, it's thesame kind of.
They deserve redemption becausewhere would you be without them
?
Someone would have killed youin.
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
In that particular instance, where we were
surrounded by fbi lapd, any oneof those guys would have
recognized that the man about toshoot us A, not a child.
Two, that gun is real.
Three, I'm going to shoot himnow.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Also, that never would have happened because a
bunch of FBI people, you know,and police officers surrounding
the building wouldn't be like ah, we got him, everybody dust off
, we don't have to clear thebuilding or anything.
Everything's good.
We all.
We did it, mission accomplished, let's good.
We did it, mission accomplished, let's all load up.
Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
No Room by room.
Clear this bitch.
I don't believe that the NYPDguy got them all and we're going
to double check.
Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yeah, exactly Stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
That's how it would be different, there'd be a lot
more precision killing.
Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
You gotta forgive the cops that shoot children yeah
shooting people for the rightreasons, just made a mistake I
just I'm just trying to shootpeople out here.
Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
I'm a good man, I just want to shoot the right
people and I fucked up one time.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I'm shooting people on the right side Of the law.
If you fire me, I'm gonna haveto shoot people for the
criminals, and you don't wantthat.
Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
But it's like dude, alan.
I appreciate that it was amistake, dude, but that kid Is
just dead now.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah maybe that kid was going to grow up to be a
police officer who didn't shootany children get the fuck out of
here, alan, go home.
Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Find another job like look, I can appreciate that it
was an accident, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Find another job like look, I can appreciate that it
was an accident.
That's cool.
Find another job you.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
You're not a cop anymore.
That time is gone.
I'm sorry go work it up for youyeah, you're gonna find a job
where we don't put a gun in yourhands, because when we do, you
shoot children.
Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Please stop.
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Then it'd be hold on.
Alan, I just shot another adultman who meant me harm.
I will sleep tonight if I couldfix things with my wife, which
I plan on doing throughconversation and therapy, and
that's how it would change.
Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Perfect, I think, then, I think then it would
definitely still be a holidayclassic and not people being
like what the fuck is this movie, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
movie.
This is the strangest shit I'veever seen somebody get my wife
online.
Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Hey, I'm so sorry I didn't support you in your
career.
You know I'm seeing you hereworking with all these you know
high power people.
I see you're really in yourelement.
I should have been, you know Ishould.
You here working with all theseyou know high-powered people?
I see you're really in yourelement.
I should have been, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
I should have been more supportive.
Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
LA is a great town.
What I've seen of it, I thinkI'm going to move out of here.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I'd like to come out here and I'd like to support you
as well.
I'm sure LA Hold on, babe.
I'm sure LAPD Some guy was justfiring at the hip at me missed
every shot, but I'm sure LAPDhas a spot for me.
Fuck, I'm sure fucking any townsurrounding LA.
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
I was just talking to a child killer they hired.
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
so I mean we can make this work.
If you want to make this work,let's make it work.
I'm happy to support yourdreams, hold on Hold on Ben.
It's weird German dude justtrying to high kick me Also not
a child, alan.
Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
And that's how it would be so this movie got a
four.
Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Yeah, this movie gets what we got a four.
But I think that we gotta watchsome good movies that all of us
are gonna love soon, becausesomething's got to beat this
fucking has to be well, but Ithink, though, that our system
speaks to the fact that we couldnot like a movie.
Us is, you know, you and me andit be it's an alright movie,
(01:07:51):
like you know, yeah, I think itspeaks to that.
Like, yeah, like yeah, I'mgoing gonna rewatch Die Hard a
couple more times.
Am I gonna be excited about it?
No, do I think Alan needs to befired immediately?
Yeah, do I think Bruce Willisshould bring his weapon up to
(01:08:13):
his eye and talk to his wifeyeah, I do probably a good idea
both on both counts um.
Should you listen again?
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I don't know.
I don't know.
There's something about thismovie that I don't get.
I don't get it.
Please, somebody fuckingexplain it to me.
I don't get it.
Please somebody fucking explainit to me.
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Our fucking international audience needs to
get the fuck down here.
Email me something.
God damn, ryan Barron North,I'm everywhere.
High and Dry Podcast.
We're all over the place.
Actually, if you're listeningto this right now, there's a
link on Buzzsprout where you cantext us Really.
Yeah, that's a link onbuzzsprout where you can text us
(01:09:00):
Really.
Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
So yeah, that's a thing you can text you can text
high and dry podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Um, you can support the show.
You could do all these sorts ofthings, um, just from our
breast sprout website.
So yeah, take a look, that'spretty awesome, did you also?
Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
did you know diehard was adapted from a book?
Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
yes, I did actually I didn't know that I'm gonna
honestly wonder if the book'sfucking boring.
You know what?
Uh was also adapted from a bookfeaturing bruce willis.
The fifth element yeah, Ididn't know that, I just took a
guess yeah, the fifth elementand wow, honestly, I would rate
(01:09:41):
fifth element above diehard yeah, we've.
Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
We've watched a lot of movies that I would rate
above diehard, but it was beforethe rating system we just don't
have any, we have to watchanother really good movie to
knock diehard out of the topposition.
Actually, did Starship TroopersAlso get a four?
Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I believe it did.
I don't know it might have.
Yeah, go back.
Starship Troopers is when wefirst started Doing the rating
system, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Yeah, I think that was the one we started on.
We got to watch another reallygood movie.
Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
We need a five.
Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
We need to find a high and dry five.
Yeah, I think I think galaxyquest might be it if we watch
that one.
Really, you think so I.
I bet luke hasn't seen it, lukedoesn't he said he doesn't watch
a lot of comedy movies and uh,that one's, you know, a little
bit of a cult movie it is.
We watched the other movie thatour movie group watched last.
(01:10:45):
We just watched the Faculty,which everybody loved.
We had three people who hadnever seen the Faculty and one
who'd only maybe seen it once.
We watched the Faculty and hada really good time.
Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
More fun than Die Hard and Trap.
We had a great time.
Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Because that's what I thought when we were watching
Trap.
I was like man, I really wishthis was the Faculty.
Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
I find when I watch most movies, I'm God.
I wish this was the Faculty JonStewart gets his fingers cut
off and they all scurry away.
At least we can laugh at it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
It was a really playful movie.
The movie was like it wasn't,it wasn't up in some ass.
It was really playful abouteverything, which made it fun
yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Hey, well, well, that's the goal.
Um, I think, uh, the goal fromnow on, listeners at home.
Uh, we're gonna try and bringyou high and dry fives and uh,
because we we watch movieslately and like, wow m night,
jesus christ, dude, what thefuck?
Stop writing movies, justdirect it man, just stop it man.
(01:12:02):
So, yeah, I think that shouldbe the goal.
Um, next episode after this sothis is christmas eve.
You're talking about die hard.
You're probably watching diehard while you do it.
Um, the next episode after thatwill be trap, and then after
that, I thought it was gonna bemuppets, christmas, carol, or
was that?
Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
is that not gonna happen now?
Well, I'm too far behind, thatcould be our new year's movie.
Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
We'll try, we'll do our best.
I'm totally down becausethat'll be a five for me okay I
can tell you right now do what?
Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
what new year's movies are there?
Like?
Is get him to the greek?
A new year's movie?
I can't remember if that'sdon't make me watch that I don't
want to watch it.
Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Okay, I'm just trying to think of new year's movies
muppet, christmas, carol, it isall right, everybody.
Hey, thanks for listening.
This is high and dry podcast.
I'm ryan baron north, with me,as always, james grassland.
Uh, bye bye.
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