May 27, 2024 • 61 mins
Embark on a revealing exploration of "The Invisible Man" as Ryan Baron North and James Crosslin take you through the film's chilling portrayal of domestic violence and its cultural reverberations. Our latest episode promises a blend of humor and grave reflection, delivering insights into the nuances of abuse and the responsibility of men in confronting these issues.
This conversation is not for the faint of heart; we dissect the terror and control wielded by the unseen abuser and discuss how Elizabeth Moss's portrayals, from "The Invisible Man" to "The Handmaid's Tale," compel society to look inward. We'll contrast Moss's artistry in cinematography with the harsh realities victims face in the justice system, all the while navigating this heavy terrain with an occasional light-hearted detour. Our unique podcast format ensures you're in for an evening of smart, punchy analysis that may just change the way you see movies and the world around you.
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
this uh review of the biopic of john invisible man
good old john invisible man ohman, hey, everybody, before we
get started, today we're goingto be doing the invisible man
2020, which, you know, coverssome kind of nasty things.
So if you or anyone you know isgoing through any sort of
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domestic violence, uh always,you can reach out to
1-800-799-SAFE, and that's anational domestic violence
hotline.
And because this show stillgets its main audience from
Vegas, vegas offers SafeNest,the crisis support services in
Nevada, the Shade Tree and SafeHouse, and so we'll just knock
that out of the way.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah.
And so let's say that one ofthe greatest things of our time
is that there are a lot ofresources to help people in need
.
You know, in the past we didn'thave a lot of ways to connect,
but with the Internet, you know,you can Google up ways to get
help in lots of different ways.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's really good, hell, yeah, so let's dive on
into it.
Hey everybody, I'm your host,ryan Barron North, with me, as
always, james Crossland.
This is High and Dry Podcast,james, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Not much, just avoiding the shimmers and whirs
in my periphery since watchingthis movie last night.
I don't know if I've pissed offsome tech billionaire it's very
possible.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's very possible.
So this is high and dry podcast, the only podcast keeping alive
the fandom of quantum leap,because I still got to do my
little bit uh, this is quantumleap.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
already I already I already said Scott Bakula.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
That's right has a following.
You were right.
You were right.
Whatever, whatever, we skippedover it last time, let's just do
Quantum.
Leap now.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
There are 100% people who still watch Quantum Leap
and reruns, but whatever, Idon't believe it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It probably reruns on like cbs or something.
They're 80 years old, they'relike what's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
something out there.
All right, so, um, so this iswhat we're going to do today.
So, uh, high and dry podcast.
What we do is we're going totake a movie and we're going to
dissect the philosophy, we'regoing to dive into the pop
culture of it and we're gonna dothat into a three-part segment
here.
First we're going to go overour sober thoughts, then we're
going to go into our enlightenedthoughts and we're going to
finish it off with a what if?
And we're going to make it sofun and enjoyable because we're
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doing it drunk and high.
So, james, what are you smokingthis week?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
This week I've got I think it's pineapple diesel,
which the diesel ones are alwaysgood for for a for a nice
euphoric head high.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Okay, yeah, no, and I think that could really work
for the invisible man 20, I andmyself.
I'm just glad that finally twomen are talking about this yeah,
I, uh.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think it's about time that that men take the
spotlight when it comes to womenfacing domestic violence,
because just gotta say we knowbetter, it's biological that was
satire.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
everybody, everybody, dear God.
But yeah, I'll be joining you.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Women don't know how to dress themselves.
What to eat?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You gotta let them know when to leave the house.
It's hard.
It's hard being a man, oh God.
And welcome to our finalepisode.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And then they, they try to kill you about it.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't know I didn't understand this film.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I did not understand it was a real horror from that
poor tech billionaire'sperspective dude was just trying
to take care of everybody, Iswear, even his fucking brother.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
But um, so anyway.
Uh, I'll be joining you.
I'm just going to be rocking uhold Forrester again.
I still got that uh standard,uh hundred proof barrel.
I'm working through a hundredhorsepower and I feel it really
got me there last time, sohopefully it'll do this.
Do the trick this time.
Oh, nice this first one.
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It's going out to uh the filmand uh, I guess, the lessons
they're in cheers this one goesout to domestic violence we are
a comedy podcast, but anyway, oh, that was, that was pretty
(04:51):
smooth.
That was pretty smooth.
I enjoyed that one.
It uh, let's see, it's alwaysthat second shot that gets me it
, just something changes yeah, Igotta tell you, this one
doesn't taste anything likepineapple I'm getting more.
I'm getting way more dieselwell, this second shot, second
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hit, second toast, this one goesout to our newest listeners,
coming to us from the russianfederation, moscow oh nice yeah,
yeah, so we're still comingthrough there.
It's probably all the thoughtswe had just a moment ago oh nice
, yeah, yeah, so we're stillcoming through there.
It's probably all the thoughtswe had just a moment ago,
allowing us to break through thegood old Russian censors.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Blat To Moscow, cheers, cheers.
I saw that Putin just recentlywon his fifth election.
Congratulations.
I know that was a hard-foughtcampaign.
He was probably up late thenight before just fucking
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panicking over it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'm sure he was furiously masturbating to the
scenes in this movie where she'sbeing terrorized.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Sounds about right.
Sounds about right, and goodbyeto our Moscovian listeners.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I can't imagine that someone listening to a podcast
where someone is smokingmarijuana is a supporter of food
.
It's true.
Like his regime.
His regime is like way overzealous about, about prosecuting
, uh, you know, minor drug use.
(06:38):
What was her name, um?
Is she still in?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
prison.
No, she's out, she's out.
Uh, she actually just had a newdocumentary come out on Hulu.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I said Brittany Ger, that's not coming to me now.
Griner, there it is.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Brittany Griner.
Yes, she was in prison inRussia for nearly 300 days.
Brittany Griner, Big shout out.
She was in a prison in Russiafor nearly 300 days.
Uh, Brittany Griner, big shoutout.
Fellow fellow pot smoker,Brittany Griner.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well, our, our one viewer in Moscow, it's it's
actually Putin.
He's like all right, it's abouttime I I checked this out, make
sure it's safe for my new, uh,my people.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And it's like, oh heavens.
Truly, they are representativeof the moral decay of the west
cheers here's to that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So our third one to being that moral decay.
That's how I've always viewedmyself an agent of decay.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
yeah, yeah, that's how I've always viewed myself An
agent of decay.
Yeah yeah, that's how I'vealways viewed you too.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I know what I'm about All right, so it's time to dive
into it.
I know we've said it a fewtimes, but we're tackling the
Invisible man 2020.
This one is starring Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Oh, oh my god, it's already gone elizabeth moss.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Um, first, you know sober thought.
I love her, I think she's greatin pretty much everything I've
seen of hers.
Um, and you know, that's justwhere I was going to start.
But, james, uh, what are yoursober thoughts on this?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Well, no, I think that's a great place to start.
She does a great job of beingoppressed and then getting
revenge, like that seems to beher.
That seems to be her typecastnow.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, now she handmade and tailed the shit out
of it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah yeah, Elizabeth Moss is great.
I feel like this was a reallygood domestic violence movie.
I feel I'm well.
No, there's domestic, it's myfavorite genre.
I think about domestic violenceabout a thousand times a day.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Um, those are rookie numbers, man.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But, uh, like domestic violence movies are
like a whole genre.
There's like so many.
There's so many movies thatlike I think like gothica, or uh
, let me think, what are someother domestic violence movies?
There's the ones that are likeuh, in the home, like that one
with shia labeouf and and johntravolta do you remember that
one?
Yeah, but there's like, uh,there's domestic violence.
(09:33):
Swim fan was like domesticviolence.
What was that?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
one with vince vaughn where he's like the stepdad,
and then that was the one withjohn travolta, wasn't it?
Maybe, maybe they're.
John travolta was the one withJohn Travolta wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Maybe, maybe they were the same.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, and John Travolta was the estranged
divorced father who realizesthat the man his bitch of an
ex-wife brought into their homeis now hurting his kids Was
pretty much what I gathered fromthat movie.
It looked like that's what theywere going for.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think in that movie she was also being deceived,
right?
Yeah, she was the victim aswell and then but it was also
like divorce debt.
It's like a divorce oh, it wasdivorce for sure yeah, some
someday they're gonna realizethat I was right all along and
my family is gonna come runningback to me being, like we love
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you, competent and successful.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And I get to solve this whole situation with
violence.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I get to kill my replacement.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Oh yeah, no, it was definitely.
It was definitely divorced dadporn, you know.
He turned down the creed in hismotel and rushed to save the
day, and luckily he's always abetter fighter than the man who
replaced him yeah yeah, good theinvisible man this little man
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good, a very good domesticviolence type movie.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You know well when do I talk about how it's shot.
Is that in the next section?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
well, no, I would say , that's that.
That's definitely a soberthought.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Just talking about the cinematography oh, amazing
cinematography in this movie.
So the way that they positiontheir cameras and when they
choose to use like narrow viewsversus wide views, long shots
versus wide shots, like.
A few scenes that pop out to meare when she's making breakfast
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, they start off the scene whereshe's off to the side cooking
breakfast and they have thewhole kitchen open because she's
paranoid, right, she believesthere's something in her
periphery.
It's almost like.
It's almost like the paranormalactivity series where they have
the static camera, right.
They're kind of showing you aroom and you're like what's
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gonna happen?
Like you're waiting forsomething to happen, and there's
this empty space and it leavesyou with this sense of anxiety
about like not knowing what'sgoing to happen.
Yeah, and they did that in thescene with the kitchen.
They did that in the scenewhere she's folding laundry.
I didn't catch anything in thefolding laundry scene, did you
(12:15):
Like?
I was like.
I watched that scene twicewhere I was like is there
something?
Is there something?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think it was just a red herring and that's good.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They did a great job.
They really built the suspenseand made me feel paranoid.
Yes, they also chose to doshots like from like at the
entrance to hallways at an angle, like voyeuristic shots.
They did so many voyeuristicshots of her like living her
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life and it makes you you'relike, even when she's not
thinking about the paranoia.
There's that voyeuristic kindof someone spying on you feeling
just hanging around.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
They did good with the suit's noises, yeah, so they
would sort of every once in awhile they would confirm it with
those little clicks that hissuit does.
Yeah, I enjoyed that.
I don't understand why heinstalled a growl function on
the suit.
What do you mean?
So they're like, especially inlike the violent scenes and
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things like that, would growland I'm like is that the guy?
Is that the suit?
Does he have a button for that?
I think that's the guy.
It's just the guy, all right,and he's just.
He's just a fucking dog.
Yeah he's?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
well, I guess he he's .
So he's like devolved as soonas he couldn't be seen anymore.
He like kind of devolved intolike he was already.
We already have stories of hiscruelty, right, but he becomes
like unhingely cruel once hebecomes unable to be seen well.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
With that being said, I think we should.
Movie was fantastic,cinematography was great.
Uh, elizabeth moss obviouslyawesome, but I feel like we were
slamming right into some moregolden path thoughts here and I
I don't want to like, I don'twant to edge us, I kind of want
to just dive on in, are you, areyou down?
Yeah, sure, all, let's loadthem up.
(14:22):
So, this last shot here, thisone, let's do this one to
Elizabeth Moss, okay sure.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Good job, Elizabeth Moss.
Great job being awell-recognized great actress.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, she kills it.
Uh, cheers, cheers.
So I uh, when I'm doing theediting for these things, I'm
pretty sure the uh, the aiprogram that I run it through
automatically maintains focus onme while you're smoking weed.
That's cool, yeah, I think,like because I was watching it,
I'm like, wow, it hasn't jumpedback for me in a minute, and
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then he's even talking, but itstill hasn't jumped to him and I
realized that you got a pipe,like oh damn so it knows, it
knows not to do that yeah, so,so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Taking away the jobs of hardworking editors.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Right, oh, thank God, who has time?
So, anyway, it's time for thesecond part of this podcast.
It is time to dive in onto thegolden path and discuss our high
thoughts.
So, james, I think you're onthe.
You're just about to dive intoone.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
actually, I'm not sure Was I just saying that the
way this was shot was reallyvoyeuristic, or what was I?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
saying no, we had moved past that.
Oh, we were talking about howhe has devolved Right and he
starts fucking growling.
Even my subtitles were likegrowolved Right and he starts.
He starts fucking growling.
Um, even my subtitles were likegrowls.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah.
So I think this is a reallyclear, a really clear
conversation about power andabout how those who seek power
and control are never satisfied.
They're never satisfied, and asyour power increases, so does
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your dissociation from thesubjects of your power.
Yes, the greater the powerimbalance, the less you can
identify with who you'reexpressing that power upon.
And so he likes, after he isessentially invisible, he can no
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longer be seen, he can doanything.
Yeah, he, he drops anysemblance of of being a person.
He like he dies.
Essentially.
That like the, the part wherehe fakes his own death.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
He's removed himself from the world to be this thing
no, especially in the uh, Iguess the hospital scene where
he just decides it's time to goon a rampage because what the
fuck are are you going to doabout it?
I could do whatever I want.
I like um.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I mean, I wrote down that invisibility is a super OP
power.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Oh yeah, no, invisibility is terrifying, and
I mean this whole thingstretches off of, you know, hg
Wells, the invisible man, andthat's what they're keeping here
, and I mean the originalmessage of that was just when a
human being lacks any sort ofaccountability for his actions,
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he becomes a monster.
Yeah depressing take on it and Ithought it was particularly an
interesting take to move it intothe realm of domestic violence.
You know, take it away from thegenerality of just humanity and
how we'd be monsters if no onewas watching us.
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And then to kind of put it inthis and for a lot of, you know,
domestic abuse survivors likewhat they showed in the film,
like everyone was just sort ofnot trusting her or turning
against her and they, theyreally were able to kind of
drive that home with the conceptof invisibility.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, yeah, people are very willing to trust what
they see and distrust what theycan't see, which I think is
important.
You know, it's important tohave like verifiable things, and
I also, I, I, I do, I, you know, all of this stuff is really
good, but I think now it has tobe brought up that this that
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cecilia elizabeth moss'scharacter, made some stupid
fucking decisions throughout ohyeah and I hate when that
happens in movies, where it'slike why do you have to make the
the person who's fleeingincompetent?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
well, I'm glad you brought it up because I felt, um
, the abuser was a bitch, likeit was very rudimentary abuse,
like it was stuff that I feellike a lot of people see right
away.
But then I would also say thatexperiences I've had recently
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and being in a different part ofthe world that this movie is a
good conversation to have.
Like I mean, they described theinvisible man, the billionaire
dude, as someone who's able toget in your head no matter what,
but then when they showed hisabusive tactics, it was very
juvenile ones.
(19:55):
But I feel that to a generalthey're effective, yes, and I
feel that to the generalaudience, I think it's good to
showcase them because they're sowidely utilized and they're so
widely just around, and thereare groups within our culture
that argue in favor of them thathe was a bitch abuser, but it's
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a good conversation to haveregardless.
But I agree with you, though.
I feel that if you're writingsomething, your antagonist
should rise to a level wherethey're competent.
You should not bring down ordegrade your protagonist to fit.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, there were a bunch of just like really poor
sections of really poorcommunication, and I don't know
if I mean people like that exist.
Right, there are people outthere who communicate poorly and
people who, people who, whenthey're stressed, you know, have
a breakdown in their ability tofunction.
(21:01):
But I don't feel like that wasshown enough.
It I just it just had mescreaming at the television,
tell them, show them the, thephone, as the pictures of you
asleep, yeah, like number one.
You have like a bunch ofevidence.
You have so much evidence by athermal camera, by figure,
(21:28):
figure something out.
Lady, yeah, and and she, uh,after the incident where the,
where the little girl got hit,and it was, it was the invisible
man, of course, but he blamed,but the girl didn't see anyone
else in the room blamed it oncecilia.
In that scene I was like howthe fuck are you gonna go back
(21:53):
to that house without some planalready?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
right, I can't believe you're going back?
Yeah, straight, leave the houseyeah, well, I guess I'll get
back to bed.
What the fuck, what a weirdnight this was, huh guys it's,
it's fucking crazy yeah, I don'tknow I feel like they're.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I think that made the movie a little too long.
There were there were sometimes where it was wasted like
that, where she we could havemoved, we could have segued
between sections of her beingcompetent, where she set
remember, she set up this wholeplan to beat him and stuff and
eventually she got to the pointwhere she beat him at the end,
where she utilized the, the uhsuit that she hid away
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originally.
She utilized that and sheplanned and beat him.
But we saw lots of not planning, which, okay, I'm sure people
who have been in domesticviolence relationships will be
like.
Sometimes you're not thinkingstraight and I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I get that she's not thinking straight.
But she's got so much evidenceand she she proved that she got
out of this relationship beforeoh yeah, and not to delve too
deeply into the insertingourselves into it, but like the
email that was sent to hersister, the email you could just
be like like literally I dudelike this is really weird,
(23:15):
because I did not send you anemail.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I have no idea what the contents of that email are
dude like so like I know.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I know if reese, can I please?
Sit and talk with you, right,right, I know if reese, my
brother, got an sit and talkwith you, right, I know if Rhys,
my brother, got an email likethat, first he wouldn't be
waiting for me to knock on thedoor, then to just unload how
angry he is about me, this email.
And then, when I'm like yo,that wasn't me, we gotta figure
this out.
He's like, oh shit, alright,yeah, war room time, let's
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figure this out.
You know, like they, theyportrayed these sisters as girls
who were looking out for eachother.
But then the second, the second, an email is sent.
It's like no, no, I hope youdie, I hope you're in another
abuse situation.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So there was clearly.
They talked about the historyof them or when she got into
relationship with this guy, theybroke contact because he was
super controlling right.
It was from Kate Moss's Ceciliaside, so they do have history.
But despite that history I meansure there's spiteful people
out there.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I I just hate.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I hate when movies you didn't highlight the
spitefulness enough.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
He didn't there there was something missing there,
where it was just like portrayedas this is how it happens,
where it's not really yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think,yeah, I agree and I mean I think
it did play.
They.
I know what they were trying todo.
They were trying to illustratethe isolation that people who
are dealing with a situationlike this can feel.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh, oh yeah, for sure .
I just think they made her looklike an idiot in the process,
which is unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, which the writer should have done a little
bit better on that, I believe,but I do.
Kate Moss needs brain for smartmaking Give it to her, not Kate
Moss, elizabeth Moss, elizabethMoss.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Damn the Mosses.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
The Mosses.
I will give it to ElizabethMoss, though.
I love that she gets into theseroles that are just showing
very base level things of abuse.
And then I love that her filmsare these perfect excuses for
the pieces of shit in oursociety to tell on themselves,
(25:32):
right, I love.
I loved the response tohandmaiden's tale when all of a
sudden, right-wingers across thecountry were like that's not
what it would be like if trumpwas elected and like yo dude, yo
dude.
No one said that.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It's hilarious that you brought that up unprovoked
though this was written waybefore Trump, Like it has
nothing to do with Donald Trump.
You are inserting yourself intothe role of villain.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, oh, and they, oh, my God, and they just feed
into it.
It's, oh, it's.
It is a joy to watch it.
I mean like it sucks, but likeif you step back for a second
and just watch these people tellon themselves uh, it's
hilarious.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, I people talking about.
We need to ban the handmaid'stale Just like they're trying to
.
They're trying to ban protestsfor Palestine.
It's like, oh, why?
What the fuck you're telling on?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
yourself.
Yeah, no, you're saying some.
And hands made in tail, handsmaidens to handmaid's tale was
written in 1985.
Yeah, it's not what we weretalking about.
But thank you for identifyingyourself.
I hope every young woman aroundyou saw that and now knows
(26:57):
better than to be anywhere inyour fucking orbit no, they're,
uh, they're just happy that.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
They happy that their strong man is crushing the libs
and fighting off thoseblue-haired, tattooed alpha
people, transsexuals, yeah sofucking stupid.
I hate these people so much sofucking stupid.
(27:26):
Oh shit, it's a shame becausethey're so self-destructive,
it's like you want to help thesepoor women who have been
brainwashed since birth aboutwhy they need to be a part of
the Jesus cult and do thingsthat way or else they'll burn in
hell forever.
From a very young age told thatand and you want to help them.
(27:52):
But the the disdain that theyshow to people who are like I
listen, I just, I'm just tryingto explain.
You can't teach me nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Oh, it's rough, it's rough.
It's definitely a sad state ofaffairs.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You will never teach me.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh my God.
I mean, at the end of the day,we're just a bunch of half
monkeys on a cooled down ball,and it's hurtling through
nothingness.
So not every idea is going tobe a good one, I suppose.
But, elizabeth Moss, yeah,that's true, hurtling through
nothingness so not every idea isgoing to be a good one, I
suppose.
But uh, elizabeth moss, yeah,that's true, what a revelation.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, too late for the revelation.
She's been going strong?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
yeah, no, and she's got a new one coming out, but uh
, this isn't the elizabeth mosspodcast.
So, um, what other, uh, whatother high thoughts today?
It is, why don't you?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
yeah, well, fuck it, but uh, well what other, uh,
what other high thoughts fortoday it is?
Why don't?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
yeah, fuck it, but uh , well, what other, uh
enlightened thoughts do you haveon this, on your, on your
golden path?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
well, over the course of the movie it has has so many
shots of elizabeth boss, like Imentioned this earlier about,
uh, her like off to the side offrames, but as she begins to
take control of of the situation, she starts to move closer to
the center of the frame and thenfinally, at the end, the final
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shot is just a full frontal viewof her in center frame with no
periphery.
Yeah, which I which I think isa was a really great visual
journey toward her being able tofocus on herself freely, be it
be freely the focus of the, ofthe camera.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, speaking of her finally being free, I would
like to kind of bring up how, inorder to do so, she totally
used her friend, the dude whowas with her like from the
get-go, and she like uses himand unwittingly makes him
(30:03):
accomplice and accessoryAccomplice to murder, fucking
murder.
And it's like holy shit andit's like, I know we're supposed
to think that she's, you know,can do no wrong right now.
She's killing this piece ofshit and he's a piece of shit,
but damn.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
It's a piece of shit.
Murder, yeah, like.
I don't know it was prettythoughtless.
It was pretty thoughtless ofher to do that to her friend.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And she didn't even try and like, for his sake, hide
it.
You know, just here's theinvisible suit.
I had a second one.
It's in my bag.
I didn't even try and closethat on you.
I want you to know that you'reaccessory to my murder.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh, and he's a cop, and he's a cop, and while I,
have no love for police officers.
It puts him who was trying tohelp her and gave her a place to
stay, and stuff puts him in areally shitty situation.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, he's now.
He is now.
So I mean, and they go intothat early with the champagne
where his underage daughter, whohe has the power to arrest the
rest of us for, is drinkingchampagne, and now, at the end
of this movie, he is a cop whohas looked the other way to
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murder.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So that happens in a lot of movies.
By the way, there's so manymovies about about renegade cops
that were like, yeah, renegadecops, yeah, shoot those
criminals, shoot them all Don'tworry about the law.
You don't need the law.
You got a gun.
Get out there and shoot them.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Shoot them all.
Yeah, and it's like all right.
So hopefully, when I kill myabuser this cop right here he's
like well, it's no longer a lawas long as I'm here, so off you
go.
I'm glad you got him there have.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
There have been instances recently of like
people killing their abusers.
There was, um, do you rememberthe one of the like 16 year old
girl who was forced intoprostitution, who killed her
rapist, yeah, and.
And then she was convicted ofhis murder, which is fucking
crazy?
Oh yeah, it's fucking crazy,without a doubt without I just
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so maybe she was just protectingherself by forcing this other
cop.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
She's like the only thing I can do is force an agent
of the state to be complicit sothat he he can't share which,
like damn, like like don't getme wrong, I was rooting for her
when, uh, she slices his throatopen Like hell yeah, get that
piece of shit.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
But yeah, it was great to see the it was.
It was great to see thesurprise expression when, upon
seeing a floating knife a secondtime, god he was against him.
I liked, I like that they gavehim like a divine karmic
punishment yeah, which I waslike hell, yeah, fucking, get it
.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
you know this piece of shit's gotta go.
But but now I, as the viewer,am an accomplice to this shit
because of that scene with yourcop friend and like you didn't
give him a heads up, a whoop,whoop, nothing, you just fucking
.
Hey, dude, you and I committedmurder tonight and she pats him
on the shoulder and walks off afree woman and he's just left
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with that.
He's got to go home to hisdaughter knowing like yo, auntie
cc just slid a homie's throat.
I walked in and did my, do myjob, fuck is?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
is she?
Is she becoming a monster fromthe suit?
Is she going to be theinvisible woman next?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
which, if we're going to stick to uh hg wells, the
invisible man, if we're going tostick to the theme, then yeah,
and I would enjoy that.
I would have liked to have thatbe a more clearer message that
it doesn't matter Victimpunisher, abuser, whoever this
(34:27):
power falls into the hands ofthey themselves will become a
monster.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I would have liked her to give a almost, like you
know, a Frodo type.
Stare at the, at the suit, atthe end, like you know, like
like on my end, like, yeah youknow, like like on my precious,
or you know, yeah, yeah like hereyes, like light up with the
possibilities of freedom rightin this suit.
(34:56):
I would have liked to have seenthat she walks off with that
suit that's just hers now.
She does not throw that thingaway.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, yeah, like fuck .
And uh, there's a lot of shityou could do with that suit.
None of them are good.
Right there, there's absolutelynothing good that could come of
that.
Did adrian lose track of thissuit?
That's also a solid question.
(35:27):
It was clearly linked viabluetooth to the fucking thing
on the wall.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, your ipad like has a camera.
You can see like it shows acamera of whatever.
So so he probably he shouldhave been able to find this suit
or I was like I said, it waslike a tracking device on it.
That would probably be right orwell I mean like you can make
it do its worrying.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
this is worth billions to a defense contractor
.
There's no way His iPad wasn'ttracking it and he saw her
hiding in the closet.
A plus B equals the things inthe closet.
Somewhere.
My billion dollar suit is inthe closet.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, I said at that point of the movie put the suit
on.
I was yelling, put the suit on,put the suit on, put the suit
on, because then they could havedone something really cool with
two invisible people.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Fighting each other in a billion dollar house.
That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Marvel, that would be pretty cool, right, the scenery
just starts crashing andflipping over and shit oh yeah,
that would be great.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
That'd be a great time, um, and I loved how the
suit was one size fits all butum like I.
I would have liked to have seenyou know how she and like she
mastered clothing change in thatfinal scene there.
It took her, yeah, 10 secondsto dress to invisible suit she's
never put on before, and so Iwould have loved to have seen
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her in the bathroom where, likethe feet are going a foot out
from her toes and like it'shanging off her hands yeah, like
there's wrinkles in it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
The, the, the hem is rolled up.
You can just see the inside ofthe suit.
She rolled it up like she alsobecame super.
She became super comfortablewith killing a man, like really
quickly.
Dude especially with a man'soverpowering a man's, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Overpowering a man to slit his throat.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, like there's murder.
And then there's murder, holyshit.
Like yeah, yeah, she's good atpremeditating.
Yeah, no, she thought thatwhole.
Thing through.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
She built a whole plan.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I'm going to walk in here tonight.
I'm going to slit a man'sthroat, fucking ear to ear.
Joker, smile, let's fucking go,and that's it.
Dude, like you heard the squeakof his fucking bones and shit,
that jugular just snapped Likeyeah, no, that was brutal, yeah,
just snap like yeah, no, thatwas brutal yeah that was brutal,
yeah, well.
(38:17):
Well, with that being said,let's let's dive into our what
ifs.
So I'm excited is that whiskey?
So, james, you've been insertedinto the Invisible man 2020.
What's this movie look like?
Now I'm going to pour a littlesomething for myself for this
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one.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Let's see what would happen if I was inserted into
the movie.
I would be.
I assume that my role would bethe little girl.
The bill is who I associatewith most.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, no, the little girl I just want to go to school
, man that's who I associatewith the most.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I'd be the girl who's like going off to college and
she like she's the one who runsin the kitchen.
No, no, no, no, you don't putwater on a grease fire and she
grabs the fire extinguisher andsprays the grease fire because
it's like great, good job, kid,good job knowing what to do this
.
This fucking adult lady doesn'tknow what to do when a grease
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fire happens right, good job.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Well, that's how.
That's why she didn't recognizethese rudimentary abuse styles
that this dude was employing.
No one told her yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
And she, after she, after she gets hit, she, she
sets a strong boundary.
She's like I want to go, I wantto leave.
You know, I want to figure thisout.
And then later in the movie shecomes back and she's like she,
she's like I missed you, Imissed you, you know, even even
when they haven't resolved ityet, like shown that there's
like an invisible guy.
She already is back to you know, she's like I think that
(39:59):
something happened.
You know, she took a second andshe thinks, she stops and thinks
and figures it out.
Yeah, and she makes gooddecisions.
This, this little girl.
If I, if I was in the place ofElizabeth Moss, I would have not
gone back to the house.
No, I would have not gone backto the house after the first one
(40:22):
or two instances.
There are times where I've beenlike in my own life, where I've
been like something's weird andI leave immediately.
You know, we were talking Idon't know if it was on the last
podcast or just personally Iwas at like a small party.
I was at a small party one timeand and people were drinking
and a guy pulled out a gun and I, to the people around me who
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seemed concerned, but also notconcerned enough to leave, I was
like I'm going to, I'm going toget the fuck out of here.
Yeah, it'd be great if'm goingto.
I'm going to get the fuck outof here.
Yeah, it'd be great if you camealong, cause I'm driving, uh,
so I'm going to get the fuck outof here.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, no, the last thing I need is to fucking get
shot.
It's ridiculous, jesus Christ,but yeah, no, I feel you for
sure.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
And for sure, yeah and uh.
And then I put on the suit.
After uh, after I found thesuit, the first thing I do is
put it on.
There's a guy hunting me who'sinvisible.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It's time to be invisible, to be invisible.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, put the suit on no, I'm with you there.
Yeah, no, insert me as soon asI discovered this, I'd be like
oh, this, I'm, I'm, I, I wasright in the suit, suit
immediately oh yeah, and I'mglad that it immediately
stretches down to any size Irequire.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
No, I uh, yeah, no, so I mean, if I was in it, I
mean, insert me in any of thesepositions, things are going to
go vastly different.
Um, I mean, like, make me thefucking billionaire.
Uh, elizabeth Moss wants toleave.
I'm like, well, that breaks myheart and I'm sorry it didn't
work.
Goodbye.
Uh, I'm going to go sell mybillion dollar defense contract
(42:07):
here.
Um, and that would be it.
There'd be no movie, um, butthen so let's make it more
interesting.
Let's say that I'm someone else.
I guess I'm.
I'm now elizabeth moss.
I'm going to.
Yeah, I'm the first fuckingthing I'm going to do as soon as
I find this suit is.
Put it on hands down, jesuschrist, what the fuck?
(42:31):
And then it?
What would I do with aninvisible suit it become?
It turns then into hg wells ofinvisible man.
How long can I maintain mymorality with no scrutiny?
I don't know.
30 seconds, 40?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
I don't know you know , when you it's a, it's a, it's
an idea that doesn't really holdup with this suit.
Uh, because, like what happensif you're like stalking a person
inside their home and stuff andyou can't just like open.
Our viewers are going to wantto hear this one yeah, if you're
stalking people inside theirhome and you're invisible and
(43:16):
you, the whole point is that,like maybe you're not there,
right?
How do you eat and how do youshit?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
could you imagine she makes it up into the fucking
attic and it's just fuckingcurled shits that he's or she's
in the in the bedroom late atnight and just the toilet
flushes right, it smells likesomeone took a huge dump in here
she said wait a minute.
(43:50):
I reckon I lived with him forfive years.
She's explaining to the coplike no, he took his shit in
your bathroom.
I could recognize that stenchfrom anywhere where and when do
you sleep?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
wait, how do you read ?
When do you recharge your suit,right, do you?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
good questions.
Good questions uh, these are.
This is what our viewers wantto know where does the?
Man shit.
Well, he's got a uh, visibleshits, yeah.
So you can amazon prime it likeas accessory.
It's the invisible shit napkinwhere you throw it over any of
(44:37):
your excrement and it acts justas a suit for it.
It's the cutting edge of fiberoptics.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Oh, my God $29.95.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Package 3.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
The point is the suit is untenable.
Living in this suit is not athing that you can do for more
than like four hours.
Then you've got to go to thebathroom.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Well, and I feel that they lost something here.
That the HGG Wells one and eventhe Kevin Bacon one maintained
was that he could not go back.
Right, this guy, he couldswitch back and forth, and you
know, we saw him then justdecimate a hospital, various
(45:30):
orderlies, all very well armedalso, but Well, those are police
officers.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
The the orderlies weren't armed.
It was, it was, it was security, who's well?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I don't know why there were so many armed
security officers in apsychiatric shit, like I love
the john wickian style that theywould run into the headlong,
into the danger they didn't know.
See, I liked that.
They didn't know there was thedanger, right.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
It's the only time where it the danger they didn't
know.
See, I liked that they didn'tknow there was the danger, right
.
It's the only time where itmakes sense, where you can't see
the other person.
This is why you run headlong,and people were really hesitant
to believe that there was someforce other than Elizabeth Moss
in that hallway, which isrealistic.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
And in that scene I also like that they showed that
a few of the guards were sort ofempathetic towards her yeah,
like the one who's like Cecilia,don't do something just put
your hands and he like tries tolook around.
I thought that was cool, like sothere was things like the
writers realized that there'd bestuff that happened off camera.
They didn't need to spoon feedus three scenes of this guard
(46:34):
talking to her.
We were just able to pick thatup.
So I did appreciate that.
Um, and then he just gotfucking john wicked, yeah sure
did.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, that was really brutal scene.
It was, it was.
But I'm down for thebillionaires versus cops war, go
for it.
Oh yeah, I'd watch that allfucking day let's do it.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, like hey, uh, elizabeth moss, uh, you did it
billionaires versus cops, let'sgo, let's go, and I'm happy the
ratio is turning out that way,because what?
There's only so manybillionaires, but we got a
fuckload of cops.
(47:17):
So Right, let's keep it going.
Yeah, it's good for all of us.
It's good for all.
Good, good for this family.
Oh, what a weird show.
Yeah, yeah, no, you got anyfinal.
What ifs then?
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Let's see other what ifs?
Let me see, do I have anythingelse here?
I would have?
I would have taken care of Zeusimmediately.
She goes back to that house andshe goes hey, zeus, who?
Who the fuck is taking care ofZeus, right?
If you, who is taking care ofZeus?
Right?
Who is taking care of Zeus?
You essentially abandoned thatdog.
(47:59):
Yeah, who's taking care of Zeus?
Speaker 2 (48:06):
No, and you brought it up that fucking I hate him, I
hate him, I hate them, though,and so, like listeners, I get
that they're culturallyacceptable, but those fucking
bark collars just know that if Isee your dog is wearing a bark
collar, I empathize that it'sculturally acceptable, but I'm
(48:26):
also kind of thinking aboutputting it on you.
Um, just so you're aware.
Yeah, that's where I'm at withthose.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, continue please train your dog.
Train your dog instead of usinga constant negative
reinforcement.
Constant negative reinforcementis bad yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
If you wouldn't throw a bark collar on your kid, you
probably shouldn't put one onthe animal either.
But then a lot of people would,a lot of people would, a lot of
people would, yeah.
So I retract my statement.
So you're about to go intoanother point.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I would have reacted a lot more quickly to everything
.
I would have reacted a lot morequickly to everything.
And did you get really annoyedin this movie and how Elizabeth
Moss did everything incrediblyslowly?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Uh, just for a minute .
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Man to woman, uh audience here, let me explain
what you should have done Didn'tyou need to act with a fucking
sense of urgency.
You have no concept of urgency,no no, she was super chill
about it and when she slowlywalks in the room and slowly
(49:43):
turns off the faucet of the sinkfull of paint and then slowly
turns around.
It's like what the fuck lady?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I would have been stabbing shadows.
I would have been stabbingshadows.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Exactly.
I would have been slashingeverywhere I walked.
I would have been swingingaround.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, you're going to get cut and leaving.
And so in the kitchen.
She was much more safe in aconfined space versus going
outside into the intersection,where he could fucking be
anywhere in the kitchen.
You got a what a 12 foot byeight foot to work with here and
(50:23):
I'm just fucking hurricaning aknife around this goddamn
kitchen.
I'm a catch him Eventually, you, you fucking bet on it, but I
just goes, it goes and watchesyou from the hallway now that
I'm moving out in the hallwayafter after she, she poured the
coffee everywhere, which wassmart to put something.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, that was flour would have been better.
Yeah, I would have done flourfor sure something she never saw
paranormal activity?
Speaker 2 (50:48):
obviously yeah, paranormal activity.
They use the flour.
When he had those fuckingreally obvious's really obvious
it's white.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, the contrast ratio with her floors.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
They were dark floors and you put a dark powder, I
don't know Whatever.
Well, it's also impressive thathis suit that utilized just
cameras to essentially show youthe other side of him, we're
able to cancel out his shadowyeah, exactly yeah, like he was
able to bend light aroundhimself.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
I don't know if that's like.
I don't know if that'sreasonable when we're talking
about a theoretical invisiblesuit that cancels out shadow,
because what he is is he isintercepting light and then
projecting light.
He's intercepting and thenprojecting light, so maybe the
light projection behind himtakes care of that shadow, but
that means he has to havecameras on the soles of his feet
(51:44):
.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
It's a fantasy.
It's a fantasy, no.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah Well, it's nonsense.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
It's total nonsense, it is.
It is.
See, no, yeah, well.
Well, that's nonsense.
It's total nonsense it is.
It is that he would have ashadow.
He'd have a shadow and yeah,that's enough.
That's also a reason why I Iwill appreciate hg wells version
more, because he didn't try toexplain it.
It's like I'm not a scientist,it's just the premise of we have
(52:12):
an invisible person and we goover this.
A bunch in this show is ifyou're introducing a fantasy
element, don't try and explainit, because then you're going to
poke holes in yourself, and soby just putting all those
cameras everywhere, trying tomake it as realistic as possible
, they created their own plothole.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah, yeah, I still think this is a really good
domestic violence movie.
Yes, yeah, but but it's not agood like science fiction movie
because it's not really.
I think it's.
I think it's still a goodinvisible man movie in that.
Well, it's not about theinvisible man first off, which I
think is really important it'snot about the invisiblevisible
man.
(52:51):
But it's almost like when wetalk about a Dracula movie.
Those movies usually don'tfollow Dracula.
Some of them do, some of themdon't.
Some of them follow Harkness,you know, or Harker John Harker.
Right, yes, yes, yes, well Iwould have loved for Keanu
(53:13):
Reeves.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
I would have loved for counter-reeves.
I would have loved, speaking ofwhich, we need to do the
dracula episode with kind ofleaves, just because I want to
talk about the train ride home,but sure I um want, uh, I think
it would have been cool ifwarner brothers was able to pull
it off, because every once in awhile, warner brothers puts,
puts out a Dracula film and theyput out an invisible man and
they put out a werewolf, just tomaintain the copyright and
(53:40):
everything like that.
I think it would have been coolto see Adrian standing next to
the Dracula that they created inDracula Untold, standing next
to the Dracula that they createdin Dracula Untold, and to see
(54:01):
that play out, because DraculaUntold created a Dracula.
That was a good guy, yeah, andI would.
I would have loved to have seenthat, where the Dracula Untold
is gathering these people, heruns into Adrian a fucking, a
optics billionaire, um, andrealizes what kind of a person
he is that would be like I'mstill good.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I'm good if they do that, with that, with elizabeth
moss, if they take thatdirection.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Oh yeah, because she's the one who has the suit
now yeah, she's now theinvisible man.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Oh my god, why aren't we?
Speaker 2 (54:31):
working at one warner brothers.
Jesus christ, we could justsave the whole fucking world.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Is it Warner brothers or universal?
Are those the same company.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yes, yeah they're.
I'm pretty sure they were theunit universal monsters.
Well, yeah, universal studios,but that's owned by Warner
brothers.
Um, it's all in the same thingAnimaniacs, superman, it's all
all right there.
Yeah, we're all owned by thesame fucking two people that's
right yeah, but we havesteamboat mickey now, so that's
(55:02):
hooray, but you can't use thegloves because disney has a
patent on menstrual racism fromthe.
From the 1800s, early 1900s,yeah, no.
Well, there's my final.
What if, though, dracula,portrayed by what's the actor's
(55:24):
name?
Dracula, untold the guy?
He was in Lord of the Rings?
Well, not Lord of the Rings, hewas in the Hobbit.
He was the human in Hobbit.
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
I just don't remember his name.
He has.
He been doing much lately lukeevans has he been doing much
lately.
He was a.
He was an up-and-comer duringhe was told, which I think
dracula untold killed his career, even though I thought it it
was, I loved it.
You, you have a.
You do have a predisposition tovampire.
It's media.
(55:54):
It's true, it's my blood Ienjoyed it as well, but a lot of
people did not enjoy this movieI thought it was.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
You know what?
I'm gonna go fucking watch itright after this show is done.
I'll tell you that right nowI'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
Drag on until fuck y'all give luke evans a you know
10 cents and residuals orwhatever.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Elizabeth Moss, luke Evans, let's bring Invisible man
and Dracula together again onthe silver screen.
But yeah, that would be myfinal.
What if?
Is Elizabeth Moss walks offwith the Invisible man suit, she
obviously enters into a morallygray area.
(56:36):
We find her at a men's fuckingwalmart bathroom, just killing
dudes she saw be um abusive inthe parking lot because I I feel
like that's where I would go,sure.
And then dracula finds her andhe's like sure.
(56:57):
And then dracula finds her andhe's like you could be useful,
because I have an older vampirethan me that needs to go down.
And then they find, they find,uh, fucking uh, benicio del
toro's wolf man.
And they, they fucking marvelit up and take on the bad father
from game of thrones as avampire.
It's going to be awesome,charles dance, that's the guy.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Yeah, yeah, I know Charles dance.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Great, yeah, I, that's.
That's my what if.
And Warner brothers I know, ifyou go to our buzzsprout link
now you can text the podcast.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
So, uh, warner, warner brothers feel free to hit
me up.
Fans, don't touch it.
I would come come murder you.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
If you know I'm just kidding, please put on my
invisible suit and slice yourfucking throat only warner
brothers, executives or theirpeons.
And we'll save Superman toowhile we're at it.
I see you guys went with areally weird choice on that.
So yeah, hit us up, we'llfigure this out, we'll fix
everything.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
I'm not kidding you.
Luke Evans has been workinglike nonstop for the past decade
.
He has like 35 movies in thepast 10 years.
Oh, that poor bastard.
I swear to God.
And I knew he was doing thattoo.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Oh my God, he still looks great.
We just got to dye his hair alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
I did not know how many movies he was doing.
I had no fucking idea he was inBeauty and the Beast in 2017.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Anna 2019.
Holy shit.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Murder Mystery I've heard of that one, but didn't
watch Murder Mystery, oh my.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
God.
He even did a in 2023, he did afucking gay father adoption
piece.
Yeah, I see that.
He's just fucking throwing itat the wall.
All right, yeah, luke Evans,man, I know you're listening to
everyone that ats you.
I'm at you.
Fucking, text us, man, we'llfigure this out.
(58:59):
We'll get you back in there.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
Oh, he was in Ma.
I didn't see Ma either, but heseems to be in movies like,
where he comes in and is like adad.
He's a great dad huh.
He's a great dad.
Huh, he's a great dad.
He's a great dad, and he was adad in dracula.
Yeah, I'd love for him to be mydad.
He, yeah, the dads.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
He portrayed pretty good dads.
I'd let luke evans be my dad.
How old are you, luke evans?
Speaker 1 (59:23):
hold on real quick 45 years old not old enough to be
my dad, stepdad and I'd be down.
Yeah, so luke evans is mystepdad.
Yeah, you want to be my stepdadand I'd be down.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah so you want to be my stepdaddy, but that means
he could still fucking bedracula.
We can make this happen, lukeevans, reach out high and dry
podcast, we'll figure this out.
Man, you're younger than keanureeves and keanu reeves is doing
uh, fucking, uh, constantinetwo 60 years old yeah, luke
evans, reach out, we'll figurethis out.
(59:54):
We'll use our backdoor intoWarner Brothers.
We'll get this done.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Yeah, Keanu Reeves is 59 years old.
He's still shuffling around,having people run at him and
shooting him in the head.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Yeah, Luke Evans, we got 15 years to make this happen
.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Hit us up, man.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
For you to be Dracula .
Hit us up, we'll get this done.
Fucking Bela Lugosi did ituntil he was a corpse they just
painted his corpse and put himon screen.
I'm pretty sure he's buried inthe Dracula outfit.
We'll get this done, shitalright.
Well, there you have it, folks.
(01:00:33):
We're High and dry podcast.
Uh, thank you all for listening.
Uh, I'm your host, ryan barronnorth, with me, as always, james
crossland.
I still gotta finish what I gotleft here.
This last one goes out to youguys listening.
Um, thank you so much forlistening to two dudes talk
about, uh, women stuck indomestic violence situations.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
It had to happen sometime.
I'm glad it's now.
It's about time.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
It's about time.
Thank you everybody, bye, bye.
this uh review of the biopic of john invisible man
good old john invisible man ohman, hey, everybody, before we
get started, today we're goingto be doing the invisible man
2020, which, you know, coverssome kind of nasty things.
So if you or anyone you know isgoing through any sort of
(00:21):
domestic violence, uh always,you can reach out to
1-800-799-SAFE, and that's anational domestic violence
hotline.
And because this show stillgets its main audience from
Vegas, vegas offers SafeNest,the crisis support services in
Nevada, the Shade Tree and SafeHouse, and so we'll just knock
that out of the way.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah.
And so let's say that one ofthe greatest things of our time
is that there are a lot ofresources to help people in need
.
You know, in the past we didn'thave a lot of ways to connect,
but with the Internet, you know,you can Google up ways to get
help in lots of different ways.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's really good, hell, yeah, so let's dive on
into it.
Hey everybody, I'm your host,ryan Barron North, with me, as
always, james Crossland.
This is High and Dry Podcast,james, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Not much, just avoiding the shimmers and whirs
in my periphery since watchingthis movie last night.
I don't know if I've pissed offsome tech billionaire it's very
possible.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's very possible.
So this is high and dry podcast, the only podcast keeping alive
the fandom of quantum leap,because I still got to do my
little bit uh, this is quantumleap.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
already I already I already said Scott Bakula.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
That's right has a following.
You were right.
You were right.
Whatever, whatever, we skippedover it last time, let's just do
Quantum.
Leap now.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
There are 100% people who still watch Quantum Leap
and reruns, but whatever, Idon't believe it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It probably reruns on like cbs or something.
They're 80 years old, they'relike what's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
something out there.
All right, so, um, so this iswhat we're going to do today.
So, uh, high and dry podcast.
What we do is we're going totake a movie and we're going to
dissect the philosophy, we'regoing to dive into the pop
culture of it and we're gonna dothat into a three-part segment
here.
First we're going to go overour sober thoughts, then we're
going to go into our enlightenedthoughts and we're going to
finish it off with a what if?
And we're going to make it sofun and enjoyable because we're
(02:33):
doing it drunk and high.
So, james, what are you smokingthis week?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
This week I've got I think it's pineapple diesel,
which the diesel ones are alwaysgood for for a for a nice
euphoric head high.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Okay, yeah, no, and I think that could really work
for the invisible man 20, I andmyself.
I'm just glad that finally twomen are talking about this yeah,
I, uh.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think it's about time that that men take the
spotlight when it comes to womenfacing domestic violence,
because just gotta say we knowbetter, it's biological that was
satire.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
everybody, everybody, dear God.
But yeah, I'll be joining you.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Women don't know how to dress themselves.
What to eat?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You gotta let them know when to leave the house.
It's hard.
It's hard being a man, oh God.
And welcome to our finalepisode.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And then they, they try to kill you about it.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't know I didn't understand this film.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I did not understand it was a real horror from that
poor tech billionaire'sperspective dude was just trying
to take care of everybody, Iswear, even his fucking brother.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
But um, so anyway.
Uh, I'll be joining you.
I'm just going to be rocking uhold Forrester again.
I still got that uh standard,uh hundred proof barrel.
I'm working through a hundredhorsepower and I feel it really
got me there last time, sohopefully it'll do this.
Do the trick this time.
Oh, nice this first one.
(04:26):
It's going out to uh the filmand uh, I guess, the lessons
they're in cheers this one goesout to domestic violence we are
a comedy podcast, but anyway, oh, that was, that was pretty
(04:51):
smooth.
That was pretty smooth.
I enjoyed that one.
It uh, let's see, it's alwaysthat second shot that gets me it
, just something changes yeah, Igotta tell you, this one
doesn't taste anything likepineapple I'm getting more.
I'm getting way more dieselwell, this second shot, second
(05:12):
hit, second toast, this one goesout to our newest listeners,
coming to us from the russianfederation, moscow oh nice yeah,
yeah, so we're still comingthrough there.
It's probably all the thoughtswe had just a moment ago oh nice
, yeah, yeah, so we're stillcoming through there.
It's probably all the thoughtswe had just a moment ago,
allowing us to break through thegood old Russian censors.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Blat To Moscow, cheers, cheers.
I saw that Putin just recentlywon his fifth election.
Congratulations.
I know that was a hard-foughtcampaign.
He was probably up late thenight before just fucking
(05:58):
panicking over it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'm sure he was furiously masturbating to the
scenes in this movie where she'sbeing terrorized.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Sounds about right.
Sounds about right, and goodbyeto our Moscovian listeners.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I can't imagine that someone listening to a podcast
where someone is smokingmarijuana is a supporter of food
.
It's true.
Like his regime.
His regime is like way overzealous about, about prosecuting
, uh, you know, minor drug use.
(06:38):
What was her name, um?
Is she still in?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
prison.
No, she's out, she's out.
Uh, she actually just had a newdocumentary come out on Hulu.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I said Brittany Ger, that's not coming to me now.
Griner, there it is.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Brittany Griner.
Yes, she was in prison inRussia for nearly 300 days.
Brittany Griner, Big shout out.
She was in a prison in Russiafor nearly 300 days.
Uh, Brittany Griner, big shoutout.
Fellow fellow pot smoker,Brittany Griner.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well, our, our one viewer in Moscow, it's it's
actually Putin.
He's like all right, it's abouttime I I checked this out, make
sure it's safe for my new, uh,my people.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And it's like, oh heavens.
Truly, they are representativeof the moral decay of the west
cheers here's to that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So our third one to being that moral decay.
That's how I've always viewedmyself an agent of decay.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
yeah, yeah, that's how I've always viewed myself An
agent of decay.
Yeah yeah, that's how I'vealways viewed you too.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I know what I'm about All right, so it's time to dive
into it.
I know we've said it a fewtimes, but we're tackling the
Invisible man 2020.
This one is starring Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Oh, oh my god, it's already gone elizabeth moss.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Um, first, you know sober thought.
I love her, I think she's greatin pretty much everything I've
seen of hers.
Um, and you know, that's justwhere I was going to start.
But, james, uh, what are yoursober thoughts on this?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Well, no, I think that's a great place to start.
She does a great job of beingoppressed and then getting
revenge, like that seems to beher.
That seems to be her typecastnow.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, now she handmade and tailed the shit out
of it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah yeah, Elizabeth Moss is great.
I feel like this was a reallygood domestic violence movie.
I feel I'm well.
No, there's domestic, it's myfavorite genre.
I think about domestic violenceabout a thousand times a day.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Um, those are rookie numbers, man.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But, uh, like domestic violence movies are
like a whole genre.
There's like so many.
There's so many movies thatlike I think like gothica, or uh
, let me think, what are someother domestic violence movies?
There's the ones that are likeuh, in the home, like that one
with shia labeouf and and johntravolta do you remember that
one?
Yeah, but there's like, uh,there's domestic violence.
(09:33):
Swim fan was like domesticviolence.
What was that?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
one with vince vaughn where he's like the stepdad,
and then that was the one withjohn travolta, wasn't it?
Maybe, maybe they're.
John travolta was the one withJohn Travolta wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Maybe, maybe they were the same.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, and John Travolta was the estranged
divorced father who realizesthat the man his bitch of an
ex-wife brought into their homeis now hurting his kids Was
pretty much what I gathered fromthat movie.
It looked like that's what theywere going for.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think in that movie she was also being deceived,
right?
Yeah, she was the victim aswell and then but it was also
like divorce debt.
It's like a divorce oh, it wasdivorce for sure yeah, some
someday they're gonna realizethat I was right all along and
my family is gonna come runningback to me being, like we love
(10:23):
you, competent and successful.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And I get to solve this whole situation with
violence.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I get to kill my replacement.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Oh yeah, no, it was definitely.
It was definitely divorced dadporn, you know.
He turned down the creed in hismotel and rushed to save the
day, and luckily he's always abetter fighter than the man who
replaced him yeah yeah, good theinvisible man this little man
(10:58):
good, a very good domesticviolence type movie.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You know well when do I talk about how it's shot.
Is that in the next section?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
well, no, I would say , that's that.
That's definitely a soberthought.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Just talking about the cinematography oh, amazing
cinematography in this movie.
So the way that they positiontheir cameras and when they
choose to use like narrow viewsversus wide views, long shots
versus wide shots, like.
A few scenes that pop out to meare when she's making breakfast
(11:34):
, they start off the scene whereshe's off to the side cooking
breakfast and they have thewhole kitchen open because she's
paranoid, right, she believesthere's something in her
periphery.
It's almost like.
It's almost like the paranormalactivity series where they have
the static camera, right.
They're kind of showing you aroom and you're like what's
(11:55):
gonna happen?
Like you're waiting forsomething to happen, and there's
this empty space and it leavesyou with this sense of anxiety
about like not knowing what'sgoing to happen.
Yeah, and they did that in thescene with the kitchen.
They did that in the scenewhere she's folding laundry.
I didn't catch anything in thefolding laundry scene, did you
(12:15):
Like?
I was like.
I watched that scene twicewhere I was like is there
something?
Is there something?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think it was just a red herring and that's good.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They did a great job.
They really built the suspenseand made me feel paranoid.
Yes, they also chose to doshots like from like at the
entrance to hallways at an angle, like voyeuristic shots.
They did so many voyeuristicshots of her like living her
(12:43):
life and it makes you you'relike, even when she's not
thinking about the paranoia.
There's that voyeuristic kindof someone spying on you feeling
just hanging around.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
They did good with the suit's noises, yeah, so they
would sort of every once in awhile they would confirm it with
those little clicks that hissuit does.
Yeah, I enjoyed that.
I don't understand why heinstalled a growl function on
the suit.
What do you mean?
So they're like, especially inlike the violent scenes and
(13:23):
things like that, would growland I'm like is that the guy?
Is that the suit?
Does he have a button for that?
I think that's the guy.
It's just the guy, all right,and he's just.
He's just a fucking dog.
Yeah he's?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
well, I guess he he's .
So he's like devolved as soonas he couldn't be seen anymore.
He like kind of devolved intolike he was already.
We already have stories of hiscruelty, right, but he becomes
like unhingely cruel once hebecomes unable to be seen well.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
With that being said, I think we should.
Movie was fantastic,cinematography was great.
Uh, elizabeth moss obviouslyawesome, but I feel like we were
slamming right into some moregolden path thoughts here and I
I don't want to like, I don'twant to edge us, I kind of want
to just dive on in, are you, areyou down?
Yeah, sure, all, let's loadthem up.
(14:22):
So, this last shot here, thisone, let's do this one to
Elizabeth Moss, okay sure.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Good job, Elizabeth Moss.
Great job being awell-recognized great actress.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, she kills it.
Uh, cheers, cheers.
So I uh, when I'm doing theediting for these things, I'm
pretty sure the uh, the aiprogram that I run it through
automatically maintains focus onme while you're smoking weed.
That's cool, yeah, I think,like because I was watching it,
I'm like, wow, it hasn't jumpedback for me in a minute, and
(15:12):
then he's even talking, but itstill hasn't jumped to him and I
realized that you got a pipe,like oh damn so it knows, it
knows not to do that yeah, so,so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Taking away the jobs of hardworking editors.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Right, oh, thank God, who has time?
So, anyway, it's time for thesecond part of this podcast.
It is time to dive in onto thegolden path and discuss our high
thoughts.
So, james, I think you're onthe.
You're just about to dive intoone.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
actually, I'm not sure Was I just saying that the
way this was shot was reallyvoyeuristic, or what was I?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
saying no, we had moved past that.
Oh, we were talking about howhe has devolved Right and he
starts fucking growling.
Even my subtitles were likegrowolved Right and he starts.
He starts fucking growling.
Um, even my subtitles were likegrowls.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah.
So I think this is a reallyclear, a really clear
conversation about power andabout how those who seek power
and control are never satisfied.
They're never satisfied, and asyour power increases, so does
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your dissociation from thesubjects of your power.
Yes, the greater the powerimbalance, the less you can
identify with who you'reexpressing that power upon.
And so he likes, after he isessentially invisible, he can no
(16:58):
longer be seen, he can doanything.
Yeah, he, he drops anysemblance of of being a person.
He like he dies.
Essentially.
That like the, the part wherehe fakes his own death.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
He's removed himself from the world to be this thing
no, especially in the uh, Iguess the hospital scene where
he just decides it's time to goon a rampage because what the
fuck are are you going to doabout it?
I could do whatever I want.
I like um.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I mean, I wrote down that invisibility is a super OP
power.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Oh yeah, no, invisibility is terrifying, and
I mean this whole thingstretches off of, you know, hg
Wells, the invisible man, andthat's what they're keeping here
, and I mean the originalmessage of that was just when a
human being lacks any sort ofaccountability for his actions,
(17:55):
he becomes a monster.
Yeah depressing take on it and Ithought it was particularly an
interesting take to move it intothe realm of domestic violence.
You know, take it away from thegenerality of just humanity and
how we'd be monsters if no onewas watching us.
(18:15):
And then to kind of put it inthis and for a lot of, you know,
domestic abuse survivors likewhat they showed in the film,
like everyone was just sort ofnot trusting her or turning
against her and they, theyreally were able to kind of
drive that home with the conceptof invisibility.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, yeah, people are very willing to trust what
they see and distrust what theycan't see, which I think is
important.
You know, it's important tohave like verifiable things, and
I also, I, I, I do, I, you know, all of this stuff is really
good, but I think now it has tobe brought up that this that
(18:59):
cecilia elizabeth moss'scharacter, made some stupid
fucking decisions throughout ohyeah and I hate when that
happens in movies, where it'slike why do you have to make the
the person who's fleeingincompetent?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
well, I'm glad you brought it up because I felt, um
, the abuser was a bitch, likeit was very rudimentary abuse,
like it was stuff that I feellike a lot of people see right
away.
But then I would also say thatexperiences I've had recently
(19:34):
and being in a different part ofthe world that this movie is a
good conversation to have.
Like I mean, they described theinvisible man, the billionaire
dude, as someone who's able toget in your head no matter what,
but then when they showed hisabusive tactics, it was very
juvenile ones.
(19:55):
But I feel that to a generalthey're effective, yes, and I
feel that to the generalaudience, I think it's good to
showcase them because they're sowidely utilized and they're so
widely just around, and thereare groups within our culture
that argue in favor of them thathe was a bitch abuser, but it's
(20:21):
a good conversation to haveregardless.
But I agree with you, though.
I feel that if you're writingsomething, your antagonist
should rise to a level wherethey're competent.
You should not bring down ordegrade your protagonist to fit.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, there were a bunch of just like really poor
sections of really poorcommunication, and I don't know
if I mean people like that exist.
Right, there are people outthere who communicate poorly and
people who, people who, whenthey're stressed, you know, have
a breakdown in their ability tofunction.
(21:01):
But I don't feel like that wasshown enough.
It I just it just had mescreaming at the television,
tell them, show them the, thephone, as the pictures of you
asleep, yeah, like number one.
You have like a bunch ofevidence.
You have so much evidence by athermal camera, by figure,
(21:28):
figure something out.
Lady, yeah, and and she, uh,after the incident where the,
where the little girl got hit,and it was, it was the invisible
man, of course, but he blamed,but the girl didn't see anyone
else in the room blamed it oncecilia.
In that scene I was like howthe fuck are you gonna go back
(21:53):
to that house without some planalready?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
right, I can't believe you're going back?
Yeah, straight, leave the houseyeah, well, I guess I'll get
back to bed.
What the fuck, what a weirdnight this was, huh guys it's,
it's fucking crazy yeah, I don'tknow I feel like they're.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I think that made the movie a little too long.
There were there were sometimes where it was wasted like
that, where she we could havemoved, we could have segued
between sections of her beingcompetent, where she set
remember, she set up this wholeplan to beat him and stuff and
eventually she got to the pointwhere she beat him at the end,
where she utilized the, the uhsuit that she hid away
(22:40):
originally.
She utilized that and sheplanned and beat him.
But we saw lots of not planning, which, okay, I'm sure people
who have been in domesticviolence relationships will be
like.
Sometimes you're not thinkingstraight and I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I get that she's not thinking straight.
But she's got so much evidenceand she she proved that she got
out of this relationship beforeoh yeah, and not to delve too
deeply into the insertingourselves into it, but like the
email that was sent to hersister, the email you could just
be like like literally I dudelike this is really weird,
(23:15):
because I did not send you anemail.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I have no idea what the contents of that email are
dude like so like I know.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I know if reese, can I please?
Sit and talk with you, right,right, I know if reese, my
brother, got an sit and talkwith you, right, I know if Rhys,
my brother, got an email likethat, first he wouldn't be
waiting for me to knock on thedoor, then to just unload how
angry he is about me, this email.
And then, when I'm like yo,that wasn't me, we gotta figure
this out.
He's like, oh shit, alright,yeah, war room time, let's
(23:42):
figure this out.
You know, like they, theyportrayed these sisters as girls
who were looking out for eachother.
But then the second, the second, an email is sent.
It's like no, no, I hope youdie, I hope you're in another
abuse situation.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So there was clearly.
They talked about the historyof them or when she got into
relationship with this guy, theybroke contact because he was
super controlling right.
It was from Kate Moss's Ceciliaside, so they do have history.
But despite that history I meansure there's spiteful people
out there.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I I just hate.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I hate when movies you didn't highlight the
spitefulness enough.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
He didn't there there was something missing there,
where it was just like portrayedas this is how it happens,
where it's not really yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think,yeah, I agree and I mean I think
it did play.
They.
I know what they were trying todo.
They were trying to illustratethe isolation that people who
are dealing with a situationlike this can feel.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh, oh yeah, for sure .
I just think they made her looklike an idiot in the process,
which is unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, which the writer should have done a little
bit better on that, I believe,but I do.
Kate Moss needs brain for smartmaking Give it to her, not Kate
Moss, elizabeth Moss, elizabethMoss.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Damn the Mosses.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
The Mosses.
I will give it to ElizabethMoss, though.
I love that she gets into theseroles that are just showing
very base level things of abuse.
And then I love that her filmsare these perfect excuses for
the pieces of shit in oursociety to tell on themselves,
(25:32):
right, I love.
I loved the response tohandmaiden's tale when all of a
sudden, right-wingers across thecountry were like that's not
what it would be like if trumpwas elected and like yo dude, yo
dude.
No one said that.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It's hilarious that you brought that up unprovoked
though this was written waybefore Trump, Like it has
nothing to do with Donald Trump.
You are inserting yourself intothe role of villain.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, oh, and they, oh, my God, and they just feed
into it.
It's, oh, it's.
It is a joy to watch it.
I mean like it sucks, but likeif you step back for a second
and just watch these people tellon themselves uh, it's
hilarious.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, I people talking about.
We need to ban the handmaid'stale Just like they're trying to
.
They're trying to ban protestsfor Palestine.
It's like, oh, why?
What the fuck you're telling on?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
yourself.
Yeah, no, you're saying some.
And hands made in tail, handsmaidens to handmaid's tale was
written in 1985.
Yeah, it's not what we weretalking about.
But thank you for identifyingyourself.
I hope every young woman aroundyou saw that and now knows
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better than to be anywhere inyour fucking orbit no, they're,
uh, they're just happy that.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
They happy that their strong man is crushing the libs
and fighting off thoseblue-haired, tattooed alpha
people, transsexuals, yeah sofucking stupid.
I hate these people so much sofucking stupid.
(27:26):
Oh shit, it's a shame becausethey're so self-destructive,
it's like you want to help thesepoor women who have been
brainwashed since birth aboutwhy they need to be a part of
the Jesus cult and do thingsthat way or else they'll burn in
hell forever.
From a very young age told thatand and you want to help them.
(27:52):
But the the disdain that theyshow to people who are like I
listen, I just, I'm just tryingto explain.
You can't teach me nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Oh, it's rough, it's rough.
It's definitely a sad state ofaffairs.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You will never teach me.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh my God.
I mean, at the end of the day,we're just a bunch of half
monkeys on a cooled down ball,and it's hurtling through
nothingness.
So not every idea is going tobe a good one, I suppose.
But, elizabeth Moss, yeah,that's true, hurtling through
nothingness so not every idea isgoing to be a good one, I
suppose.
But uh, elizabeth moss, yeah,that's true, what a revelation.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, too late for the revelation.
She's been going strong?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
yeah, no, and she's got a new one coming out, but uh
, this isn't the elizabeth mosspodcast.
So, um, what other, uh, whatother high thoughts today?
It is, why don't you?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
yeah, well, fuck it, but uh, well what other, uh,
what other high thoughts fortoday it is?
Why don't?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
yeah, fuck it, but uh , well, what other, uh
enlightened thoughts do you haveon this, on your, on your
golden path?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
well, over the course of the movie it has has so many
shots of elizabeth boss, like Imentioned this earlier about,
uh, her like off to the side offrames, but as she begins to
take control of of the situation, she starts to move closer to
the center of the frame and thenfinally, at the end, the final
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shot is just a full frontal viewof her in center frame with no
periphery.
Yeah, which I which I think isa was a really great visual
journey toward her being able tofocus on herself freely, be it
be freely the focus of the, ofthe camera.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, speaking of her finally being free, I would
like to kind of bring up how, inorder to do so, she totally
used her friend, the dude whowas with her like from the
get-go, and she like uses himand unwittingly makes him
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accomplice and accessoryAccomplice to murder, fucking
murder.
And it's like holy shit andit's like, I know we're supposed
to think that she's, you know,can do no wrong right now.
She's killing this piece ofshit and he's a piece of shit,
but damn.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
It's a piece of shit.
Murder, yeah, like.
I don't know it was prettythoughtless.
It was pretty thoughtless ofher to do that to her friend.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And she didn't even try and like, for his sake, hide
it.
You know, just here's theinvisible suit.
I had a second one.
It's in my bag.
I didn't even try and closethat on you.
I want you to know that you'reaccessory to my murder.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh, and he's a cop, and he's a cop, and while I,
have no love for police officers.
It puts him who was trying tohelp her and gave her a place to
stay, and stuff puts him in areally shitty situation.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, he's now.
He is now.
So I mean, and they go intothat early with the champagne
where his underage daughter, whohe has the power to arrest the
rest of us for, is drinkingchampagne, and now, at the end
of this movie, he is a cop whohas looked the other way to
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murder.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So that happens in a lot of movies.
By the way, there's so manymovies about about renegade cops
that were like, yeah, renegadecops, yeah, shoot those
criminals, shoot them all Don'tworry about the law.
You don't need the law.
You got a gun.
Get out there and shoot them.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Shoot them all.
Yeah, and it's like all right.
So hopefully, when I kill myabuser this cop right here he's
like well, it's no longer a lawas long as I'm here, so off you
go.
I'm glad you got him there have.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
There have been instances recently of like
people killing their abusers.
There was, um, do you rememberthe one of the like 16 year old
girl who was forced intoprostitution, who killed her
rapist, yeah, and.
And then she was convicted ofhis murder, which is fucking
crazy?
Oh yeah, it's fucking crazy,without a doubt without I just
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so maybe she was just protectingherself by forcing this other
cop.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
She's like the only thing I can do is force an agent
of the state to be complicit sothat he he can't share which,
like damn, like like don't getme wrong, I was rooting for her
when, uh, she slices his throatopen Like hell yeah, get that
piece of shit.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
But yeah, it was great to see the it was.
It was great to see thesurprise expression when, upon
seeing a floating knife a secondtime, god he was against him.
I liked, I like that they gavehim like a divine karmic
punishment yeah, which I waslike hell, yeah, fucking, get it
.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
you know this piece of shit's gotta go.
But but now I, as the viewer,am an accomplice to this shit
because of that scene with yourcop friend and like you didn't
give him a heads up, a whoop,whoop, nothing, you just fucking
.
Hey, dude, you and I committedmurder tonight and she pats him
on the shoulder and walks off afree woman and he's just left
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with that.
He's got to go home to hisdaughter knowing like yo, auntie
cc just slid a homie's throat.
I walked in and did my, do myjob, fuck is?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
is she?
Is she becoming a monster fromthe suit?
Is she going to be theinvisible woman next?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
which, if we're going to stick to uh hg wells, the
invisible man, if we're going tostick to the theme, then yeah,
and I would enjoy that.
I would have liked to have thatbe a more clearer message that
it doesn't matter Victimpunisher, abuser, whoever this
(34:27):
power falls into the hands ofthey themselves will become a
monster.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I would have liked her to give a almost, like you
know, a Frodo type.
Stare at the, at the suit, atthe end, like you know, like
like on my end, like, yeah youknow, like like on my precious,
or you know, yeah, yeah like hereyes, like light up with the
possibilities of freedom rightin this suit.
(34:56):
I would have liked to have seenthat she walks off with that
suit that's just hers now.
She does not throw that thingaway.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, yeah, like fuck .
And uh, there's a lot of shityou could do with that suit.
None of them are good.
Right there, there's absolutelynothing good that could come of
that.
Did adrian lose track of thissuit?
That's also a solid question.
(35:27):
It was clearly linked viabluetooth to the fucking thing
on the wall.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, your ipad like has a camera.
You can see like it shows acamera of whatever.
So so he probably he shouldhave been able to find this suit
or I was like I said, it waslike a tracking device on it.
That would probably be right orwell I mean like you can make
it do its worrying.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
this is worth billions to a defense contractor
.
There's no way His iPad wasn'ttracking it and he saw her
hiding in the closet.
A plus B equals the things inthe closet.
Somewhere.
My billion dollar suit is inthe closet.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, I said at that point of the movie put the suit
on.
I was yelling, put the suit on,put the suit on, put the suit
on, because then they could havedone something really cool with
two invisible people.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Fighting each other in a billion dollar house.
That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Marvel, that would be pretty cool, right, the scenery
just starts crashing andflipping over and shit oh yeah,
that would be great.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
That'd be a great time, um, and I loved how the
suit was one size fits all butum like I.
I would have liked to have seenyou know how she and like she
mastered clothing change in thatfinal scene there.
It took her, yeah, 10 secondsto dress to invisible suit she's
never put on before, and so Iwould have loved to have seen
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her in the bathroom where, likethe feet are going a foot out
from her toes and like it'shanging off her hands yeah, like
there's wrinkles in it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
The, the, the hem is rolled up.
You can just see the inside ofthe suit.
She rolled it up like she alsobecame super.
She became super comfortablewith killing a man, like really
quickly.
Dude especially with a man'soverpowering a man's, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Overpowering a man to slit his throat.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, like there's murder.
And then there's murder, holyshit.
Like yeah, yeah, she's good atpremeditating.
Yeah, no, she thought thatwhole.
Thing through.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
She built a whole plan.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I'm going to walk in here tonight.
I'm going to slit a man'sthroat, fucking ear to ear.
Joker, smile, let's fucking go,and that's it.
Dude, like you heard the squeakof his fucking bones and shit,
that jugular just snapped Likeyeah, no, that was brutal, yeah,
just snap like yeah, no, thatwas brutal yeah that was brutal,
yeah, well.
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Well, with that being said,let's let's dive into our what
ifs.
So I'm excited is that whiskey?
So, james, you've been insertedinto the Invisible man 2020.
What's this movie look like?
Now I'm going to pour a littlesomething for myself for this
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one.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Let's see what would happen if I was inserted into
the movie.
I would be.
I assume that my role would bethe little girl.
The bill is who I associatewith most.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, no, the little girl I just want to go to school
, man that's who I associatewith the most.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I'd be the girl who's like going off to college and
she like she's the one who runsin the kitchen.
No, no, no, no, you don't putwater on a grease fire and she
grabs the fire extinguisher andsprays the grease fire because
it's like great, good job, kid,good job knowing what to do this
.
This fucking adult lady doesn'tknow what to do when a grease
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fire happens right, good job.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Well, that's how.
That's why she didn't recognizethese rudimentary abuse styles
that this dude was employing.
No one told her yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
And she, after she, after she gets hit, she, she
sets a strong boundary.
She's like I want to go, I wantto leave.
You know, I want to figure thisout.
And then later in the movie shecomes back and she's like she,
she's like I missed you, Imissed you, you know, even even
when they haven't resolved ityet, like shown that there's
like an invisible guy.
She already is back to you know, she's like I think that
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something happened.
You know, she took a second andshe thinks, she stops and thinks
and figures it out.
Yeah, and she makes gooddecisions.
This, this little girl.
If I, if I was in the place ofElizabeth Moss, I would have not
gone back to the house.
No, I would have not gone backto the house after the first one
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or two instances.
There are times where I've beenlike in my own life, where I've
been like something's weird andI leave immediately.
You know, we were talking Idon't know if it was on the last
podcast or just personally Iwas at like a small party.
I was at a small party one timeand and people were drinking
and a guy pulled out a gun and I, to the people around me who
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seemed concerned, but also notconcerned enough to leave, I was
like I'm going to, I'm going toget the fuck out of here.
Yeah, it'd be great if'm goingto.
I'm going to get the fuck outof here.
Yeah, it'd be great if you camealong, cause I'm driving, uh,
so I'm going to get the fuck outof here.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, no, the last thing I need is to fucking get
shot.
It's ridiculous, jesus Christ,but yeah, no, I feel you for
sure.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
And for sure, yeah and uh.
And then I put on the suit.
After uh, after I found thesuit, the first thing I do is
put it on.
There's a guy hunting me who'sinvisible.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It's time to be invisible, to be invisible.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, put the suit on no, I'm with you there.
Yeah, no, insert me as soon asI discovered this, I'd be like
oh, this, I'm, I'm, I, I wasright in the suit, suit
immediately oh yeah, and I'mglad that it immediately
stretches down to any size Irequire.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
No, I uh, yeah, no, so I mean, if I was in it, I
mean, insert me in any of thesepositions, things are going to
go vastly different.
Um, I mean, like, make me thefucking billionaire.
Uh, elizabeth Moss wants toleave.
I'm like, well, that breaks myheart and I'm sorry it didn't
work.
Goodbye.
Uh, I'm going to go sell mybillion dollar defense contract
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here.
Um, and that would be it.
There'd be no movie, um, butthen so let's make it more
interesting.
Let's say that I'm someone else.
I guess I'm.
I'm now elizabeth moss.
I'm going to.
Yeah, I'm the first fuckingthing I'm going to do as soon as
I find this suit is.
Put it on hands down, jesuschrist, what the fuck?
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And then it?
What would I do with aninvisible suit it become?
It turns then into hg wells ofinvisible man.
How long can I maintain mymorality with no scrutiny?
I don't know.
30 seconds, 40?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
I don't know you know , when you it's a, it's a, it's
an idea that doesn't really holdup with this suit.
Uh, because, like what happensif you're like stalking a person
inside their home and stuff andyou can't just like open.
Our viewers are going to wantto hear this one yeah, if you're
stalking people inside theirhome and you're invisible and
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you, the whole point is that,like maybe you're not there,
right?
How do you eat and how do youshit?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
could you imagine she makes it up into the fucking
attic and it's just fuckingcurled shits that he's or she's
in the in the bedroom late atnight and just the toilet
flushes right, it smells likesomeone took a huge dump in here
she said wait a minute.
(43:50):
I reckon I lived with him forfive years.
She's explaining to the coplike no, he took his shit in
your bathroom.
I could recognize that stenchfrom anywhere where and when do
you sleep?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
wait, how do you read ?
When do you recharge your suit,right, do you?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
good questions.
Good questions uh, these are.
This is what our viewers wantto know where does the?
Man shit.
Well, he's got a uh, visibleshits, yeah.
So you can amazon prime it likeas accessory.
It's the invisible shit napkinwhere you throw it over any of
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your excrement and it acts justas a suit for it.
It's the cutting edge of fiberoptics.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Oh, my God $29.95.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Package 3.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
The point is the suit is untenable.
Living in this suit is not athing that you can do for more
than like four hours.
Then you've got to go to thebathroom.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Well, and I feel that they lost something here.
That the HGG Wells one and eventhe Kevin Bacon one maintained
was that he could not go back.
Right, this guy, he couldswitch back and forth, and you
know, we saw him then justdecimate a hospital, various
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orderlies, all very well armedalso, but Well, those are police
officers.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
The the orderlies weren't armed.
It was, it was, it was security, who's well?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I don't know why there were so many armed
security officers in apsychiatric shit, like I love
the john wickian style that theywould run into the headlong,
into the danger they didn't know.
See, I liked that.
They didn't know there was thedanger, right.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
It's the only time where it the danger they didn't
know.
See, I liked that they didn'tknow there was the danger, right
.
It's the only time where itmakes sense, where you can't see
the other person.
This is why you run headlong,and people were really hesitant
to believe that there was someforce other than Elizabeth Moss
in that hallway, which isrealistic.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
And in that scene I also like that they showed that
a few of the guards were sort ofempathetic towards her yeah,
like the one who's like Cecilia,don't do something just put
your hands and he like tries tolook around.
I thought that was cool, like sothere was things like the
writers realized that there'd bestuff that happened off camera.
They didn't need to spoon feedus three scenes of this guard
(46:34):
talking to her.
We were just able to pick thatup.
So I did appreciate that.
Um, and then he just gotfucking john wicked, yeah sure
did.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, that was really brutal scene.
It was, it was.
But I'm down for thebillionaires versus cops war, go
for it.
Oh yeah, I'd watch that allfucking day let's do it.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, like hey, uh, elizabeth moss, uh, you did it
billionaires versus cops, let'sgo, let's go, and I'm happy the
ratio is turning out that way,because what?
There's only so manybillionaires, but we got a
fuckload of cops.
(47:17):
So Right, let's keep it going.
Yeah, it's good for all of us.
It's good for all.
Good, good for this family.
Oh, what a weird show.
Yeah, yeah, no, you got anyfinal.
What ifs then?
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Let's see other what ifs?
Let me see, do I have anythingelse here?
I would have?
I would have taken care of Zeusimmediately.
She goes back to that house andshe goes hey, zeus, who?
Who the fuck is taking care ofZeus, right?
If you, who is taking care ofZeus?
Right?
Who is taking care of Zeus?
You essentially abandoned thatdog.
(47:59):
Yeah, who's taking care of Zeus?
Speaker 2 (48:06):
No, and you brought it up that fucking I hate him, I
hate him, I hate them, though,and so, like listeners, I get
that they're culturallyacceptable, but those fucking
bark collars just know that if Isee your dog is wearing a bark
collar, I empathize that it'sculturally acceptable, but I'm
(48:26):
also kind of thinking aboutputting it on you.
Um, just so you're aware.
Yeah, that's where I'm at withthose.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, continue please train your dog.
Train your dog instead of usinga constant negative
reinforcement.
Constant negative reinforcementis bad yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
If you wouldn't throw a bark collar on your kid, you
probably shouldn't put one onthe animal either.
But then a lot of people would,a lot of people would, a lot of
people would, yeah.
So I retract my statement.
So you're about to go intoanother point.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I would have reacted a lot more quickly to everything
.
I would have reacted a lot morequickly to everything.
And did you get really annoyedin this movie and how Elizabeth
Moss did everything incrediblyslowly?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Uh, just for a minute .
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Man to woman, uh audience here, let me explain
what you should have done Didn'tyou need to act with a fucking
sense of urgency.
You have no concept of urgency,no no, she was super chill
about it and when she slowlywalks in the room and slowly
(49:43):
turns off the faucet of the sinkfull of paint and then slowly
turns around.
It's like what the fuck lady?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I would have been stabbing shadows.
I would have been stabbingshadows.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Exactly.
I would have been slashingeverywhere I walked.
I would have been swingingaround.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, you're going to get cut and leaving.
And so in the kitchen.
She was much more safe in aconfined space versus going
outside into the intersection,where he could fucking be
anywhere in the kitchen.
You got a what a 12 foot byeight foot to work with here and
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I'm just fucking hurricaning aknife around this goddamn
kitchen.
I'm a catch him Eventually, you, you fucking bet on it, but I
just goes, it goes and watchesyou from the hallway now that
I'm moving out in the hallwayafter after she, she poured the
coffee everywhere, which wassmart to put something.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, that was flour would have been better.
Yeah, I would have done flourfor sure something she never saw
paranormal activity?
Speaker 2 (50:48):
obviously yeah, paranormal activity.
They use the flour.
When he had those fuckingreally obvious's really obvious
it's white.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, the contrast ratio with her floors.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
They were dark floors and you put a dark powder, I
don't know Whatever.
Well, it's also impressive thathis suit that utilized just
cameras to essentially show youthe other side of him, we're
able to cancel out his shadowyeah, exactly yeah, like he was
able to bend light aroundhimself.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
I don't know if that's like.
I don't know if that'sreasonable when we're talking
about a theoretical invisiblesuit that cancels out shadow,
because what he is is he isintercepting light and then
projecting light.
He's intercepting and thenprojecting light, so maybe the
light projection behind himtakes care of that shadow, but
that means he has to havecameras on the soles of his feet
(51:44):
.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
It's a fantasy.
It's a fantasy, no.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah Well, it's nonsense.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
It's total nonsense, it is.
It is.
See, no, yeah, well.
Well, that's nonsense.
It's total nonsense it is.
It is that he would have ashadow.
He'd have a shadow and yeah,that's enough.
That's also a reason why I Iwill appreciate hg wells version
more, because he didn't try toexplain it.
It's like I'm not a scientist,it's just the premise of we have
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an invisible person and we goover this.
A bunch in this show is ifyou're introducing a fantasy
element, don't try and explainit, because then you're going to
poke holes in yourself, and soby just putting all those
cameras everywhere, trying tomake it as realistic as possible
, they created their own plothole.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah, yeah, I still think this is a really good
domestic violence movie.
Yes, yeah, but but it's not agood like science fiction movie
because it's not really.
I think it's.
I think it's still a goodinvisible man movie in that.
Well, it's not about theinvisible man first off, which I
think is really important it'snot about the invisiblevisible
man.
(52:51):
But it's almost like when wetalk about a Dracula movie.
Those movies usually don'tfollow Dracula.
Some of them do, some of themdon't.
Some of them follow Harkness,you know, or Harker John Harker.
Right, yes, yes, yes, well Iwould have loved for Keanu
(53:13):
Reeves.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
I would have loved for counter-reeves.
I would have loved, speaking ofwhich, we need to do the
dracula episode with kind ofleaves, just because I want to
talk about the train ride home,but sure I um want, uh, I think
it would have been cool ifwarner brothers was able to pull
it off, because every once in awhile, warner brothers puts,
puts out a Dracula film and theyput out an invisible man and
they put out a werewolf, just tomaintain the copyright and
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everything like that.
I think it would have been coolto see Adrian standing next to
the Dracula that they created inDracula Untold, standing next
to the Dracula that they createdin Dracula Untold, and to see
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that play out, because DraculaUntold created a Dracula.
That was a good guy, yeah, andI would.
I would have loved to have seenthat, where the Dracula Untold
is gathering these people, heruns into Adrian a fucking, a
optics billionaire, um, andrealizes what kind of a person
he is that would be like I'mstill good.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I'm good if they do that, with that, with elizabeth
moss, if they take thatdirection.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Oh yeah, because she's the one who has the suit
now yeah, she's now theinvisible man.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Oh my god, why aren't we?
Speaker 2 (54:31):
working at one warner brothers.
Jesus christ, we could justsave the whole fucking world.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Is it Warner brothers or universal?
Are those the same company.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yes, yeah they're.
I'm pretty sure they were theunit universal monsters.
Well, yeah, universal studios,but that's owned by Warner
brothers.
Um, it's all in the same thingAnimaniacs, superman, it's all
all right there.
Yeah, we're all owned by thesame fucking two people that's
right yeah, but we havesteamboat mickey now, so that's
(55:02):
hooray, but you can't use thegloves because disney has a
patent on menstrual racism fromthe.
From the 1800s, early 1900s,yeah, no.
Well, there's my final.
What if, though, dracula,portrayed by what's the actor's
(55:24):
name?
Dracula, untold the guy?
He was in Lord of the Rings?
Well, not Lord of the Rings, hewas in the Hobbit.
He was the human in Hobbit.
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
I just don't remember his name.
He has.
He been doing much lately lukeevans has he been doing much
lately.
He was a.
He was an up-and-comer duringhe was told, which I think
dracula untold killed his career, even though I thought it it
was, I loved it.
You, you have a.
You do have a predisposition tovampire.
It's media.
(55:54):
It's true, it's my blood Ienjoyed it as well, but a lot of
people did not enjoy this movieI thought it was.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
You know what?
I'm gonna go fucking watch itright after this show is done.
I'll tell you that right nowI'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
Drag on until fuck y'all give luke evans a you know
10 cents and residuals orwhatever.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Elizabeth Moss, luke Evans, let's bring Invisible man
and Dracula together again onthe silver screen.
But yeah, that would be myfinal.
What if?
Is Elizabeth Moss walks offwith the Invisible man suit, she
obviously enters into a morallygray area.
(56:36):
We find her at a men's fuckingwalmart bathroom, just killing
dudes she saw be um abusive inthe parking lot because I I feel
like that's where I would go,sure.
And then dracula finds her andhe's like sure.
(56:57):
And then dracula finds her andhe's like you could be useful,
because I have an older vampirethan me that needs to go down.
And then they find, they find,uh, fucking uh, benicio del
toro's wolf man.
And they, they fucking marvelit up and take on the bad father
from game of thrones as avampire.
It's going to be awesome,charles dance, that's the guy.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Yeah, yeah, I know Charles dance.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Great, yeah, I, that's.
That's my what if.
And Warner brothers I know, ifyou go to our buzzsprout link
now you can text the podcast.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
So, uh, warner, warner brothers feel free to hit
me up.
Fans, don't touch it.
I would come come murder you.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
If you know I'm just kidding, please put on my
invisible suit and slice yourfucking throat only warner
brothers, executives or theirpeons.
And we'll save Superman toowhile we're at it.
I see you guys went with areally weird choice on that.
So yeah, hit us up, we'llfigure this out, we'll fix
everything.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
I'm not kidding you.
Luke Evans has been workinglike nonstop for the past decade
.
He has like 35 movies in thepast 10 years.
Oh, that poor bastard.
I swear to God.
And I knew he was doing thattoo.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Oh my God, he still looks great.
We just got to dye his hair alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
I did not know how many movies he was doing.
I had no fucking idea he was inBeauty and the Beast in 2017.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Anna 2019.
Holy shit.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Murder Mystery I've heard of that one, but didn't
watch Murder Mystery, oh my.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
God.
He even did a in 2023, he did afucking gay father adoption
piece.
Yeah, I see that.
He's just fucking throwing itat the wall.
All right, yeah, luke Evans,man, I know you're listening to
everyone that ats you.
I'm at you.
Fucking, text us, man, we'llfigure this out.
(58:59):
We'll get you back in there.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
Oh, he was in Ma.
I didn't see Ma either, but heseems to be in movies like,
where he comes in and is like adad.
He's a great dad huh.
He's a great dad.
Huh, he's a great dad.
He's a great dad, and he was adad in dracula.
Yeah, I'd love for him to be mydad.
He, yeah, the dads.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
He portrayed pretty good dads.
I'd let luke evans be my dad.
How old are you, luke evans?
Speaker 1 (59:23):
hold on real quick 45 years old not old enough to be
my dad, stepdad and I'd be down.
Yeah, so luke evans is mystepdad.
Yeah, you want to be my stepdadand I'd be down.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah so you want to be my stepdaddy, but that means
he could still fucking bedracula.
We can make this happen, lukeevans, reach out high and dry
podcast, we'll figure this out.
Man, you're younger than keanureeves and keanu reeves is doing
uh, fucking, uh, constantinetwo 60 years old yeah, luke
evans, reach out, we'll figurethis out.
(59:54):
We'll use our backdoor intoWarner Brothers.
We'll get this done.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Yeah, Keanu Reeves is 59 years old.
He's still shuffling around,having people run at him and
shooting him in the head.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Yeah, Luke Evans, we got 15 years to make this happen
.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Hit us up, man.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
For you to be Dracula .
Hit us up, we'll get this done.
Fucking Bela Lugosi did ituntil he was a corpse they just
painted his corpse and put himon screen.
I'm pretty sure he's buried inthe Dracula outfit.
We'll get this done, shitalright.
Well, there you have it, folks.
(01:00:33):
We're High and dry podcast.
Uh, thank you all for listening.
Uh, I'm your host, ryan barronnorth, with me, as always, james
crossland.
I still gotta finish what I gotleft here.
This last one goes out to youguys listening.
Um, thank you so much forlistening to two dudes talk
about, uh, women stuck indomestic violence situations.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
It had to happen sometime.
I'm glad it's now.
It's about time.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
It's about time.
Thank you everybody, bye, bye.
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