October 7, 2024 • 65 mins
Remember the days when X-Play was the highlight of your gaming universe? Neither do we. We spice things up with tales from our personal lives, recounting our recent lobster diving adventures and the sweaty challenge of surviving without air conditioning. As Halloween looms, we dish out our thoughts on the Silent Hill 2 remake, perfect for setting the spooky mood this season.
Ever wondered what makes a movie worth watching again? We unpack our unique "Luke method of filmology," evaluating films based on acting, cinematography, score, story, and the elusive rewatchability factor. This leads us to a spirited debate on the recent film "The Creator," where we critique its plot holes and underwhelming performances through a comedic lens. We also explore the enigmatic world of vampire films, arguing passionately that none can transcend a meager six out of ten. Sci-fi films aren't safe from our scrutiny either, as we dissect their unrealistic portrayals of futuristic tech and military strategies, all with a healthy dose of humor.
Finally, we dive into the chaotic world of AI depictions and retrofuturistic themes, drawing comparisons to beloved styles like "Fallout" and "The Jetsons." We engage in a whimsical 'what if' scenario, imagining alternate storylines that could have salvaged some of the films we critique. From satirical takes on plot inconsistencies to humorous riffs on character dynamics and military absurdities, this episode delivers laughs and critical insights in equal measure. Whether you're a sci-fi aficionado or just in it for the laughs, there's something here for everyone. So tune in, have a chuckle, and join us as we keep it real in the world of film and gaming nostalgia.
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
um no, it didn't feel like I was balls deep in the
movie.
It felt like the movie wasballs deep in me and I was not
enjoying it yeah, no, I was justkidding, I'm just taking it
from all sides and it was lessthan I mean.
It was consensual, it justwasn't.
You know, you could tell thatthere wasn't any love in my eyes
, you know yeah, yeah, yeah, soall right, hey, everybody,
(00:24):
welcome to high and dry podcast,the only podcast keeping alive
the fandom of x play.
If anyone recalls that, it wasthe uh yeah, it was the g4 with
the one guy and the one womanand they would talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
They were talking about yeah yeah, we're clearly
really big on this show you know, the one image that you see
when it first comes up, it'sboth of them crossing their arms
back to back which I think ishilarious.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Sounds about right.
Yeah, it was like morgan webb,I think was her name.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
They're they're playful but knowledgeable and a
little not corporate.
Right, I know they're justgonna talk about video games
this was before.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Uh, I don't know.
I don't know why we needed thatshow and morgan, morgan webb
and adam sessler there we go.
I wonder how sessler's doing.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Do you remember how important video games were to us
at?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
that time.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Like way more important than they should have
been.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh my gosh, for sure, for sure, my personality
revolved too much around it.
Yeah, I didn't tune into X-Play.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
No, I didn't tune into X-Play but I did read video
game news and, like, engaged invideo game conversations online
a lot well, um, what a weirdpodcast that would be.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Hey, we're doing x play, you know, with, with, with
the guy, with the guy, butwe're high and dry podcast.
I'm your host, ryan barronnorth, with me, as always, james
crossland and luke.
Uh, how you guys doing todaydoing good, good Doing good.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
My AC's out, but I got a portable unit, so I'm okay
.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Now Fuck yeah, fuck, yeah, james, I'm doing all right
.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm going lobster diving tonight.
Hopefully I get some this time.
All the ones I caught last timewere too small, and so I had to
let them live For now.
For now, eat Grow, I'll be back.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Scars their back so he can find them again.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's a lot of shit.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh well, yeah, and I'm speaking of video games.
I picked up the Silent Hill 2remake.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I've been diving into that.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I've been enjoying the hell out of it, just in time
for October and spooky season.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Do you feel like it was a good remake of it?
Remaster of it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It was a total remake .
Okay, they just rebuilt thething ground up and I think they
did a fantastic job, yeah, andit's taken me right into spooky
season, and speaking of spookyseason, we are going to be
talking about the creator.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And if you haven't seen it by the end of this,
you'll understand why it ties tospooky season, because this was
a horror.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The fact that it's out there and you might
accidentally watch it isterrifying.
So we break our podcast downinto three parts.
First, we are going to reviewthis film.
As you can imagine, our reviewsof this are going to be stellar
, and we do that using the Lukemethod of filmology.
Then we're going to move intoour second part, where we get
(03:42):
onto the golden path and we'regoing to talk about what makes
this movie so deep andintriguing, and then we're going
to dive into a what if?
Scenario where we insertourselves into the film.
But what makes it so specialand fun to enjoy is that we're
going to be doing it drunk andor high.
So, james, what are you smokingthis week?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
This week I've got a concentrate called uh straw nana
smoothie and it does taste alittle bit like strawberry
banana.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's really good okay , all right, not just ash what
did you say?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
you said last week just a mix of some stuff.
Yeah, this one is presumablyhas good taste.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Single origin nice, very nice, very nice.
And uh luke, uh, you just gotsome, uh, some gas station mix
up that uh yeah, I'm actuallyjust drinking gasoline today.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I have something called cookie batter.
Um, it does not taste likecookies, trust me.
I love me some cookies and ittastes much worse than that.
But as far as flour goes, itdoes taste pretty good.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, very nice, very nice, and I will say, before
going to mine, that I am nowgoing to try and find a fourth
host.
Who is just going to fuckingpound gas station boner pill.
Who is just going to fuckingpound gas station Bonerpil.
It's just fighting thismind-numbingly terrifying
erection through the golden bathGuys.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm so scared.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But anyway, I'm going to be joining you with Knob
Creek.
This is a small batch, 100proof, 50 horsepower, aged nine
years, crafted for quality andfull flavor.
I'm excited to go, so let'sline them up.
First toast, first hit.
(05:39):
This one goes out to our newestlistener up in the Yukon White
Horse.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Cheers, cheers, thanks Alaska.
This one goes out to our newestlistener up in the Yukon white
horse cheers, cheers, thanksAlaska.
Well, that's fun Alaska, that'snew.
I don't think we've had anyonefrom Alaska before no, I don't
think so.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
oh, that was.
That was delightful.
Um, it's's like you go to acigar bar and we'll spend a dude
there for like four hours justfucking gnawing on a fatty.
You guys get really drunk andmake out Boner pills, bop, a
(06:20):
bunch of boner pills.
Next episode I'll crossfade,I'll do gas station boner pills
and bourbon.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It'll make it just a little more interesting.
A little more exciting, if youwill.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Guys, I'm really scared right now.
I think it is not going down.
Ooh, yeah.
So you know, speaking of gasstation boner pills, you know
they take a needle to help youwith that.
Yeah, If it doesn't go downafter four hours.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, they have to drain the blood out.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Really yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Really yeah.
So if you just could find abunch of mosquitoes, you could
take care of it yourself.
Really, Leeches yeah, that'swhat I use.
I just pop a couple gas stationboner pills and then, right
when I want to go to bed, I justa couple of leeches, oh come on
and pass out.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, it's part of my ritual.
All right, so it's time for oursecond toast, second hit.
This one goes out to the film.
Here's to the creator.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
The creator.
Yeah, cheers.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I mean, you gave us content, glorious content.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Reminds me of bo burnham and his inside special.
He had something about content,just like consuming content,
yeah, or about him makingglorious.
I can't remember the song.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's what my fucking I mean.
I'm terrible at it.
If I was really diving into thecontent, my social media would
be much more active, but I justoh my God Drives me insane.
I hate that part of it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's horrible.
Thanks for listening everybody.
It's hard.
Anytime someone asks me why Istopped streaming video games, I
tell them it's not thestreaming of the video game,
it's the making content.
It's a task and it's an artform too.
Anyone can just put out content, but making good content and
something that's digestible andsomething that people enjoy is
(08:22):
hard.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's not easy to do Very difficult and something
that people enjoy.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's hard, it's not easy to do Very difficult.
It's hard to make it look easy,like the people who put in like
12 hours of editing.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh, and that's oh for sure.
You don't realize that thatvideo that you just scrolled
through, that took someone hours, Yep, oh my God.
So here's the final toast,final hit, final shot.
This one goes to those contentcreators just chugging along.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Cheers.
Doing their best out here.
Cheers guys, Ooh.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Ooh, all right, now I'm going to chase that with a
whiskey and caffeine-free Cokejust to sip on while we talk.
So it's time to dive into thefirst part of this podcast.
It's time to review the creatorand, as I said earlier, we use
the Luke method of filmology todetermine what a film scores,
(09:15):
and you can check more of thatout at his individual content
page.
So, luke, do you want to walkus through what we're about to
do?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, so we break this down into five categories.
This is basically how a filmshould be rated in order to say
it's truly a good movie.
So the five categories areacting, and then it's
cinematography, then score,story and then rewatchability.
And personally I know thatone's probably a more
(09:45):
controversial one rewatchabilitybut in my opinion, for it to be
, there's a difference between agood artistic film and just a
good movie.
And rewatchability for me, if Idon't want to put it on again,
was it really a good movie.
Oh yeah, definitely there is adifference between enjoying it
that one time, but I thinkoverall.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, no, and you can like a movie and still accept
that it is categorically a badfilm a hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But I also believe that you can watch a really good
movie.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
That's like heart-wrenching or something I
want to watch also like I don'twant to watch it again.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Which which, which is fair, but it just that's why,
something for to get a five outof five.
You got to be able to put it onagain like you can get that
four out of five, and it'sreally good and it was like wow,
I enjoyed that so much, butit's like take something off
just just for, just for me, justfor us personally so no, I'm
not really gonna throw on thegodfather again.
I'm not really gonna throw oncitizen kane for a third round
(10:43):
shutter islands, one for me thatI really, really loved shutter
island for my first experience.
But, man, maybe I'd put it onagain in like 20 years because
I'm like dang I forgot what thatmovie was like yeah, but like I
wouldn't just throw it on againright now because I'm bored on
a sunday, that's for sure samefor me, it's Zootopia and I'll
(11:03):
be able to handle it again.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I actually got in a threads war speaking of content
creation.
I went on threads and I saidthat I love vampires obviously I
mean, if you listen to thepodcast in the past, you know
that I'm a vampire guy and Isaid that there is no vampire
film that scores higher than asix out of 10, period.
And then I went to war witheveryone who was obsessed with
(11:29):
Lost Boys and I'm like, reallyWatch Lost Boys again.
Watch like they impose just arandom image of Jim Morrison.
There's a sax solo.
It's like this is a terriblemovie.
I feel like you've discounteddracula dead and loving it well,
and someone brought that up andI was like I stand corrected I
(11:53):
there's always one, thoughthat's an outlier, you, but as a
whole you would say, yes, sixout of ten, but that's the
outlier I would.
I would give dracula, dead andloving it, a six, because
Dracula, as Leslie Nielsen, didnot win the film.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It wasn't a vampire film.
It was a vampire killer film.
Yes, exactly no, it's as avampire film, it's a 6 out of 10
.
As a vampire hunter film, muchhigher.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Oh, through the roof, through the fucking roof.
But we should have put somepapers down, alright right,
let's dive on in all right,we're not doing dracula, done
loving it, we're doing a farworse piece of shit.
We're doing the creator.
Uh, let's dive on in.
So, um, you want to kick thisthing off?
(12:43):
Uh, tell, what did you think ofthe creator before?
That golden path is coming tome fast.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So what did I think?
What did I think of the creator?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Actually, would you mind if I went first, now that I
mentioned that I can feel thisknob creek coming up hard,
please, all right.
So while I still have a normalmindset, let's talk creator.
So acting I, I felt off theyeah, would I have paid you for
(13:17):
it?
No, honestly, I felt you wereall just awful, denzelzel.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Washington's Nepo Baby was not good.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Not at all.
Not at all, and I hate nepotism, but we'll do that in a golden
path.
Cinematography and animation.
This film had some decentvisual effects.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, without a doubt , they're really good.
I like the visual effects.
I felt like the movement of therobots had weight and stuff.
I felt 100, 100.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
They did a really good job no, you guys obviously
spent a lot of money on makingthis a pretty looking film.
I can't argue with that.
I do have a note here, though,though, that at one point, nomad
blew your budget.
Yeah, and there were, there wasa point where you saw that it
(14:11):
just dropped off, yeah we'regonna do really simple scenery
for the next 25 minutes like oureffects department just had the
lights shut off yeah, we'regonna do the next few scenes in
a room.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's just gonna be people in a room talking, and
then we'll, and then we'lloverspur some shots of nomad we
made with some b-roll yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So then when we come to the score and the story score
, it brought nothing to thetable for me.
Story, uh, ridiculous.
I mean, we're talking umrealism here.
This, this is this is what,fucking what?
Um.
First, like if, if you guyshate ai so fucking much, um, you
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would think of them as people.
You wouldn't think of them as acomputer program, um, which you
claim to do.
Second, this whole concept thatthe us military fucking throws
all their eggs into the nomadbasket.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yes, dumbest, dumbest fucking concept in the world
literally, if the other side canjust destroy one, like they
said, the tides will turn.
Man, why did you put all of you?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
why did we do that first off.
So I'm I'm gonna be rollingpretty heavy in this episode.
As a a, I've sat behindmilitary threat briefings, all
right.
And what the us military willnever fucking do is this
(15:45):
Avengers nonsense, where there'sjust this floating machine in
the sky.
No, we create a missile thatcan insert itself through your
front door, see what you'rewatching on Netflix, and then
blow you up.
Specifically that's what we do,and this concept that we
created some avengers bullshitfloating in the sky, like if we
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have the ability to let thenomad float through the sky
without any sort of anti-airtaking it out, we would just
attach that to individualmissiles and as soon as we knew
there was a factory of ai, itwould just go blow it up.
That would be the end of it,and we would do it from fucking
Florida.
(16:29):
I don't know why they were there.
I don't know why EllenDeGeneres was down there leading
these troops.
I don't understand.
And then rewatchability I couldbarely finish it.
The first time I had to fightmy it was like it was like that
fucking zach, uh, snyder,bullshit all over again for me.
(16:54):
Yeah, yeah, oh, my god, oh mygod.
What was the name of that movie?
Rebel moon rebel moon.
It was like rebel moon part 1.5and I I'm sitting here having to
sit behind it and, like thislittle girl robot, has the
powers of an alexa and I'msupposed to be impressed you
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know, what's funny is, when wetalked about rebel moon, we were
like you know what would be agood story the story of that
robot gaining sentience and thenthat happened.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's like nope, you did not nail that one either.
If this is what the robot did.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
If this is what the robot did, zack Snyder should
just be dragged out into apublic square and executed.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So if you had to give a score to those, what would
they be Acting?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
two Cinematography, four, Score and story one.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
No, they're different , those are separate.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh my bad Score, I don't know.
Fucking two Story Story one.
Yeah, rewatch ability a oneokay yeah, that's, that's what
it is for.
Yeah, you could put kenwaranabe in there, all you want
(18:18):
underutilized underutilized.
He should have been the star ofthat movie yeah, he should have
been a child.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
He should have been a child with old man face it's ai
, we could do stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I mean, if you've ever fucking seen the show on
netflix with the amazing firstseason, um, where they have the
stack altered carbon alteredcarbon.
We could have done that wherehe was a child, and ken
wananabe's body, which is how Ifeel every day.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Also these robots.
Why are they in humanoid form?
Why haven't they developed newforms of physical interaction
with the world?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Why is there a big fucking hole in all of their
heads?
Why?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
did that one guy stick a screwdriver into the
hole and he was like she's soadvanced.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
What the fuck screwdriver was that and how?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
was it linked to his hand?
I, I, no.
You guys are you're confused?
It was a magical wand and thatis how it gave him all the
information the moment.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
It was a spell new asia, new asia for real.
Did you ask matt stone and treyparker to come up with the
names of these fucking things?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I literally I actually have a note that says
the new language being callednew asian sounds pretty fucking
racist was current asia mad atthis.
Well, what's crazy is theyspeak like Asian languages.
It says speaking Thai, it saysspeaking Japanese, and then, for
some reason, there's this newAsian language.
(19:57):
Like why?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
What happened?
Oh my God, yeah, what the fuckhappened.
That Western, that fuckingDenzel Washington's child, had a
say on how Asia would formitself into a singular entity
okay well, yeah, all right yeah,james, we need your score or
else we need to get on.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Those are some golden path.
Yeah, I'm on the golden pathright now and I am pissed off I
think okay, so first acting, Ithink that, think that John
David Washington was real bad.
I don't think I've ever likedhim in a movie that he's been in
which is bad.
You shouldn't have someone whomumbles and has no charisma.
(20:40):
He doesn't have enough patience.
He doesn't sell anything hesays, he just says it and he's
like listen, the fact that I'msaying it has sold it enough.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I've said a thing denzel washington had life
experiences that made himcapable of activating those to
be an actor.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
This guy didn't, apparently not.
Uh, I thought jimmy chan wasall right.
She wasn't in it enough, shewas only in that opening scene,
which I liked, the opening scene.
I thought, like I have notes,that I liked the opening scene
and it kind of set me up and Iwas like all right, I think this
might actually be a good movieI actually enjoyed probably the
first 45 minutes pretty decentlyyeah, like, like, don't get me
(21:20):
wrong generous, generous,generous, they found the robot
in the dump.
Even up to that point he waslike, and he had to like, knock
on her helmet and be like listen, it's just a robot you could
see, I actually lied it was morelike the first 20 minutes now
that I really think about ityeah, like after that point it
was bad, um.
So I thought jimmy chan wasgood and she wasn't in it enough
.
I thought the little girl as anactress was good, the little
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robot girl.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I thought 100 agree 100.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Those are only two people and they didn't do enough
.
And also, john david washingtonwas on the screen like all the
time and he would not stopdelivering lines badly, yes.
So, uh, acting gets it too.
Uh, cinematography andanimation I liked the animation
of this movie.
I thought it was really coolwhat they chose to do.
I think a better movie couldhave sold us on the nomad if it
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was like way over the top andthey were like, if it was like
more over, it had to be.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It would have to be like a mech movie like a mech
suit movie, like what the fuckdid the nomad do?
That we can't do with othershit, right?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
they could have sold today they sold us on pacific
rim like that movie, despite itsflaws.
They sold it to us and we werelike that's just because rihanna
was in it no, there was thetone.
It did a good, it did a comicbooky kind of like goofy which
they should have done.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
They should have done .
Speaker 1 (22:39):
They should have been goofy yeah, and this, this it
was they took it to, exactly toit was like shitly don't
seriously.
Yeah, they thought this was aserious movie, and every time
John David Washington deliveredeither a serious or comedic line
, they told us that it was notany of those things, yeah so
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cinematography I'd give it likea four score.
I didn't notice the score andusually that's good for me, but
it also didn't make me feelhyped at any point or anything
like that.
So I give it a very middling.
Three story man the story wasreal bad, I put.
(23:24):
I put in my notes that this isthat the nomad is just the
mobile oppression palace fromFuturama put in my notes that
this is that the nomad is justthe mobile oppression palace
from futurama.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
The mobile oppression palace worked because it was a
comedy and yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So nomad was real bad their whole.
They didn't explore any of likethe ai questions that they
asked, like they put ai in frontof us and didn't even didn't
give us any of their culture orany of their motivations or
anything like that.
I thought it was just reallyGod is awful.
I'd give the story of one.
(24:01):
How do you make Allison Janneyon, you know, not compelling?
Allison Janney is compelling ineverything she does.
Compelling Allison Janney'scompelling in everything she
does.
I taught her I think I havesomething about Allison Janney
and her being just like just arough character, like yeah,
someone put a rough draft of acharacter.
I said Allison Janney'scharacter is more of a robot in
(24:22):
this movie than the robots, butnot in a way that was compelling
, even if that was like theirpoint, like if they were trying
to make like a no, it was notyeah how they were farther than
from humanity, than even therobots.
No, you just did a bad job.
You made a really wooden personum storytelling.
Yeah, like a one rewatch, billy, I don't want to watch this
(24:45):
movie again.
One I would never, never, Iwill never watch this well, yeah
, honestly, your score was onlyone point better than ryan.
So this movie is coming, havinga rough, rough time already.
Will luke save it?
Oh, I have to say I don't thinkso acting.
(25:06):
Um, like james said, I thinkthat the the girl in this movie,
what was madeline voyles?
Madeline voyles, I thought shewas phenomenal.
I actually like I was veryimpressed, like I thought she
pulled my attention quite a bitwhen it just sucks that they
used her as a prop, yeah, butlike, even just like she just
had this, like she kind ofportrayed this desire to be a
(25:29):
kid who's like a military weapon, Like that's crazy to say, but
she did, Like she came off verygood, Like her character was
portrayed well.
Again, like James said, too,Gemma Chan was good.
I think Ken's character wasgood, though vague, but again he
delivered, because it's fuckingKen.
Watanabe, he should have beenthe main character, yeah, so it
(25:52):
gets a three for me.
It's not it was nothing special, but it was.
It was nothing special, but atthe same time I thought like
some of the characters werecompelling enough to keep me
interested.
I also actually liked the uh airobot.
His name's Amar Chidapatel, hewas the Omni, he was the Indian
(26:14):
like Omni and I don't know.
Like his character was kind ofgood, like very, very small, but
for like kind of a sidecharacter, I thought it was
interesting.
So it got a three for me.
Cinematography oh God, I almostgave it a five.
I really did, but, like Ryansaid, I do think that it fell
off at times, but you could tellwhen they were trying, holy
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shit, like they were delivering.
Those robots were insanely cool, their movements, like I at one
point was thinking that theymight have even used some sort
of CGI Because like the way theymoved it very fluid, it was
very cool.
I gave it a four, though, so Idon't think it was able to get
the perfect five.
And then the score uh, veryunmemorable.
(26:58):
But there's a couple songs thatI thought were pretty fun.
Same time they were fun I don'tknow if they really fit the
movie at the time.
So, uh, it just lands right inthe middle at a three for me
Story is fucking god awful.
I mean I could go on and on andon.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And we will, on the golden path.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, you know, I have a random monkey detonated
the fucking bomb that was on theside of the tank.
Three beats are from explosion.
What is this?
Is this Reginald in ourrole-playing game?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
well, no like like what is happening.
So that's golden path, that isgolden dogs.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I said okay, okay, okay, sorry, sorry, sorry.
But yeah, it was horrible.
I have nothing good to sayabout this story but at the same
time there were points like thefirst 20 minutes were pretty
entertaining.
I did enjoy certain like I.
I kind of got what they weretrying to go for, so I got a one
.
I don't think it deserved azero for that rewatch ability
(28:00):
zero.
I don't ever want to watch itagain.
I wouldn't recommend it toanyone to even watch the first
time I didn't know zero wasenough zero.
Oh for sure, yeah, you can forsure give it zero I changed my
rewatch ability to zero okay, sotwo points subtracted from zero
, so a hundred percent itliterally it was.
I mean I wouldn't watch itagain like I consider a zero, so
(28:23):
I would consider a one.
You would never watch it again,but you would tell somebody you
gotta watch it once like it wasno, no.
Uh, I would not recommend thegot to watch it once Like it was
no, no.
I would not recommend thecreator to anybody.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
No, if I'm at a Thanksgiving with in-laws and
they recommend, just becausethey're scrolling through Hulu,
that we put on the creator onThanksgiving, I will get in a
physical altercation to keepthat off.
The television.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Oh man oh my God.
So, yeah, it it was, it was justit was rough.
Like you know, you can't say itwasn't, it was uh, I'm getting
I messed up the the score realquick so I'm finishing my score
up again but it was, it wasrough, it was just not a good
movie in in any way, shape orform.
(29:06):
So, yeah, it's gonna end up ata.
Yeah, the rewatch ability Ithink zero is really important
because, like the only reasonI'd want to watch this movie
again is because jimmy chan, Iwant to watch her in anything
she's in.
I would.
I'll just turn on the it crowd.
She was.
She was in the it crowdcountdown episode as a countdown
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groupie.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's right, that's right.
And she said will I see youlater tonight?
Yes, that's her.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So I'll just watch that scene whenever I want to
look at Jim and Jay.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I would do the same thing for Veronica.
No.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Oh yeah, she was a pretty minor character in this
one too.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
When they killed her, I was like you guys had me for
30 seconds.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I know, I thought the same thing.
I was literally.
I went holy fuck, like, are youlike?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I literally said it out loud when they blew I was
like you guys had me for 30seconds, but for those 30
seconds I was on team new asia.
Well, this movie important thismovie.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I mean I thought this was gonna end up total at a one
but it ended up getting a twoout of five for high and dry
total.
Out of all of our scores twoout of five, because it had good
effects.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
It had good effects.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
The effects for sure saved the score.
It did, and like it wasmediocre in other places too.
It was man.
They did not deliver on thatstory.
Oh my god, it was just anunwatchable movie yeah,
absolutely watchable.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So, folks at home um, don't think that two out of
five is a good score, becauseit's not all right.
Um, so, folks at home, whywould anyone think?
That two out of five is a good.
Yeah, don't think it's a goodscore, um, because we could have
given this a zero, but it hadgood effects.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
If you're watching, just watch a YouTube video about
its effects.
Don't watch the movie, just gowatch, because that would be
cool do a compilation of all thescenes, the b-roll they have of
Nomad, with like some kind ofmusic over it, and then you'll
be like wow so now?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
so, at that point, it is time to get on to the golden
path and, despite this filmhaving already been done in 2001
by AI, with Haley Joel Osmentand Jude Law, we're going to
jump onto the golden path rightnow with the creator.
But first it's time to take ourfinal shot, final hit, final
(31:30):
toast, final drug.
This one, this one goes out to?
Uh, so far, well, I can't saythat.
Well, james, I I need to askyou, jane, was this better than
Rebel Moon?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, I'm sorry.
Wait, wait, hold on.
Sorry.
Yes, this one was better thanRebel Moon.
Sorry, I apologize.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Rebel Moon, rebel Moon, I was so bored.
This one I at least was able totake notes.
Rebel Moon, I like had to turnoff and then come back so many
times.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
And finish later because it was so full my eyes
fucking rolled back in my head.
Alright, so Rebel Moon, fuckyou.
Here is to the creator beingable to beat Rebel Moon by the
fucking hair of its nuts.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Shout out to your visual effects.
This one goes out to thecreator's visual effects.
Yeah, cheers, they had a weightthat Rebel Moon's effects did
not have.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Cheers, all right.
So with that, folks at home,it's time to dive onto the
golden path.
We are now sufficiently drunkand high.
It's time to really lay out to,to put the creator on its back,
spread its legs and see whatthis film was about.
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James, what are your goldenthoughts?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
this movie wasn't about anything.
This movie, this movie wasabout a word game about Asimov's
laws of robotics that theydidn't set up.
And then at the end they werelike we have a word game and it
was like in five minutes thelast five minutes, that was the
(33:27):
point of the movie Likegoddammit.
So dumb.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
What the?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
fuck.
This movie was a bad movie.
One thing that I can say that Iliked was the retrofuturism of
robots.
It almost had like a Falloutfeel at the beginning it's very
funny because I said I can'ttell if it's the year 1991 or
(33:55):
2191.
Oh my god.
At the beginning it was likethe Jetsons almost when they had
the rise of robots.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well, I was with you guys in that one, because in my
notes I had said that, hey,maybe we should spend less money
on robot cops and more money oninfrastructure.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, Nuclear bomb resistant infrastructure Nope.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Fuck.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
All the money went to the police tanks and police
robots.
Yeah, I said I really liked howquickly it went from robots
being used to like replaceworkers to beating and shooting
people like it was really reallyquick transition in like the
opening, and it went from likehopeful to like no.
I thought it was good, thoughit went from like hopeful to
like a really dark and I waslike, oh man, maybe this movie
(34:47):
is gonna be like fucking good.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It's gonna say I thought it was gonna be dark too
and I was like, oh man, maybethis movie is gonna be like
fucking good, it's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I thought it was gonna be dark too and I actually
said as well that why are theylike cutting out like violent
moments?
I almost wanted it to like leaninto that, like be dark, like
make this like a yeah, let's doit, let's yeah I was like come
on, send it, and then it did not, and I was like no, instead it
was just a commentary on chineseeconomic growth.
(35:11):
Very bizarre, very it wasbizarre and it like it put it
kind of like caught me off guardbecause I I thought this movie,
I thought this movie was likein line with values and was
going to have something to say.
It was like it seemed like acohesive values at the beginning
because I wrote like I'msurprised how well the movie is
making me empathize with ourcharacter, like in that first
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scene where where he was likewhere jimmy chan is pregnant, as
like the movie's compassion forterrorists and refugees and
this disdain it has for powerand the military and deceit and
coercion I was tricked toimmediately undermined.
You know they're like oh you'regonna like him, oh, you're going
to like him, and then they justtry to fight that thought.
(35:53):
The rest of the movie they'relike no, no, no, you're not
going to like him.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, this movie made me think it was a different
movie, and I don't know why thatis.
I wonder if this movie tradedhands with writers and directors
.
A couple times I forgot to golook because I was so mad at
this movie.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I did not want to think about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I was like this movie .
I think it's worse when a moviebuilds up your expectations
that it's going to be good andthen fumbles really hard.
It gives me this sense ofdisdain about it.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it makes me so.
The performance here was soawful that it makes me mad at
Denzel Washington For emptyinghis balls into someone.
He emptied his balls into myfucking eyes.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Thanks a lot, Denzel.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
God damn it.
Like, why do I have to go towork every day when fucking
Denzel's fucking pre-cum doesn't?
Oh, I'm so mad, I'm so mad.
So, luke, what did you think?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I think could have real bit like the handover of
the director thing, may actuallykind of make sense to me
because I think, well, yes, thefirst 20 minutes were definitely
pretty good, the rest waspretty rough.
I would argue that if youfinished the movie, tied it up
in maybe 30 minutes to 45minutes after that first hour
mark, you could have saved it.
It could have been a good movie.
But they just drug it out foranother hour in 15 minutes, dude
(37:53):
I, when I looked and it was anhour through, I was like I was
like, oh cool, we're kind ofcoming to a resolution.
I paused because I was like, oh, it's almost done.
I saw an hour 15.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I almost lost my mind .
I did the same thing the sametime I almost lost my fucking
mind.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Listen, luke.
You just don't understand thatgood filmmaking means you gotta
have a second time when ananimal drops a bomb on the enemy
and you gotta also put like ahalf hour padding on either side
of that you can't just it's tooobvious if that is quoted
directly from the textbook ofzach snyder's school of movie
(38:35):
making yeah so, but my from thebook the golden path thought I
actually had was this moviealmost had this like underlying
tone of like the kind of the waron terrorism in the 90s, this
like we'll find all terrorists,no matter who they are, you to
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give them to us, kill them too,and they like would come into
these rooms throughout the movieand be like get the ai, kill
them all.
Like all this stuff.
It was really on theme with itand I was like if we didn't
learn a damn thing the firstspeech was what it was for me.
I was like that literallysounded like a fucking speech
right out of the 90s aboutterrorism, straight out it was.
(39:19):
It was very weird to me.
So that was a thought that,like I was like are you guys
trying to go for that or are youguys just doing this on
accident because it is real?
I think it was real, I think itwas on purpose, I think it was
on purpose and that's what mademe excited for the movie.
And then they loved it.
But at the same time it wasvague, though After that first
time it was only a couple timesyou got that moment, but I saw
(39:40):
it.
I was like, oh, you did.
Why didn't you really lean intothat, see?
But even if they did, they'dstill be fucking 20 years too,
goddamn late and this would geta three out of five.
Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
Yeah, it was just like I waslike oh interesting, like it was
something that I was like forsuch a shitty movie.
(40:00):
I'm like very interesting themeyou've chosen to like kind of
like just sneak into there likeyeah, and the speech was very
much on.
But even throughout the movie Isaw like an hour, 15 hour and a
half in where they still werelike coming into like rooms and
it sounded almost like raidswhen they're kicking doors in
like early in the middle east,and I was just like dang, like
(40:20):
yeah, like like interrogatingthe uh, when they went to that
island they're like interrogate,just tell me where the ai are.
Like oh, like that's fuckingand I know that shit happened
over there.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
So like it's, it's interesting it was an
interesting thing to the movie.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
So no, if, if your ai futuristic film can be a
counterpoint to chris kyle's thesniper, well, I think it's like
evergreen right, essentiallylike now that modern combat is
the way it is, that that couldbe like an evergreen statement
about what's happening in, likeisrael and palestine, or what's
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happening with russia policingits border, its border countries
, and shit like that.
Like it's not, it's now, likeit's how modern warfare works is
that you send a small team ofpeople into a civilization and
fucking harass them constantly.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
But even then they should have made that clear, and
so from my golden path yeah,it's bad.
It's bad, yeah.
And so for my golden paththoughts here.
This should have at least beena new commentary on ai.
But you didn't even accomplishwhat was done in 2001 by goddamn
(41:41):
fucking jude law.
Um, like holy shit.
Uh, hayley joel osmond with ateddy bear did more than you
could have and fucking jude lawplayed just a male prostitute ai
um and and jude law didn't havea fucking hole in his head,
(42:03):
because I feel it's a reallyweird design choice to allow
unfettered access of dust anddebris into the brain stem of
your piece of equipment here Imean like yeah it looks sick.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
If you want to, if you want to go into like arguing
how their magic robots work,it's already gone too far.
You know, like yeah, you canjust download someone's mind
real quick and then just uploadit like it's cool.
Yeah, they did that.
They did that, they downloadedsomeone's brain and they were
like, yeah, something, I saidsomething about the body.
(42:39):
Like oh my god.
Like imagine waking up seeingyour dead body.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Like oh my, that's horrific oh my god, why the fuck
was Ellen DeGeneres' and MarthaStewart's child the one who was
leading?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Who are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
The lead ground troop .
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Allison Janney.
Yeah, it was Allison Janney,but the guy with the mustache,
mark Menchaca McBride, was hischaracter.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I appreciate Allison Janney as an actress and for the
piece of shit that they handedher.
She did the best she could yeahit was awful.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, both Luke and I said that she was.
How do you make Allison Janneynot a great actress?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Oh my God.
But like there's a level ofrealism like, hey, you know, in
order to hold up an assaultrifle for 16 hours, before you
take a four hour nap, you needto have a bicep Like she can't
like anyway.
Anyway, golden, golden paththought here you had a chance to
comment on AI and what you didinstead was fucking nothing.
(43:47):
You did fucking nothing and youwere also borderline no, I
wouldn't even say borderline youwere racist while you did it.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
For sure, and I actually like that's the whole
reason.
I even suggested this moviewhen I did because I thought,
like the AI themes were veryheavy and I really saw something
I was like, okay, like thatcould for sure be a good film to
talk about.
Did not deliver at all in anyway, shape or form no, no.
So yeah, golden path, go fuckyourself there was one more
(44:20):
thing that you what you weresaying kind of kind of triggered
in me that I didn't reallythink about.
Why didn't the the ai of newasia just have someone who lives
there, kill jimmy chan?
Like, why did they have to dragfucking denzel washington's kid
all the way from america tokill her?
(44:41):
Couldn't?
Speaker 2 (44:43):
just any human have done it no, a bullet seems just
as effective here.
And you're telling me that thetechnology that we see today in
a fire tv and alexa bluetooth,it only exists in this child and
(45:04):
it is the only thing that couldwipe out the thing in the sky
that America decided to put alltheir eggs in the basket.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Why not EMPs?
Why not electromagnetic pulses?
That'd be very quick to justyeah.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Immediately have they not played Helldivers.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
That's the most effective way to handle the
automatrons.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
God If you launch a nuclear device and have it
detonate in the high altitude,it will release every.
Every nuclear device that hasever been launched, ever, ever
exploded, ever releases an emp.
If they all they had to do toend this movie was release a
(45:47):
single thermonuclear device inthe high altitude, it would not
kill anyone well, a lot ofpeople would die, but because,
as their cars and trains andplanes, fail, it would not kill
anyone directly through theexplosion.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
A lot of indirect killing of many, many people.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
That obviously didn't bother New America, because
they kept sending the Nomad.
Yeah, the Nomad kept blowingplaces up entirely.
That didn't bother them at all.
So all they had to do insteadof creating the Nomad was a
single, a single nuclear devicefrom America's stockpile of
(46:32):
6,000 of them in the highaltitude above New Asia.
And that's you mean Asia?
No, this is New Asiaia.
They're all together, so it'seasier for white people to
understand so fuck, just movegeneric people who look
(46:52):
different.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Got it holy I have to say, a good point.
When someone said that uh, goodold john david was on the
screen for far too long, thismovie could have been jumping
back and giving us like more,more story on, uh, alice and
jamie and really giving us morebackground on their hunt for a
two hour ten minute movie.
(47:13):
You could have really developedall of your characters and
instead you just kept giving usmore john david baby.
Oh, my god, I just for the lifeof me will never understand why
you did that.
I feel like you had thecriteria because of the creator.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Denzel washington deserves to be punched in the
stomach like curl over the fistand you look and then throw up
on the sidewalk.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
You look right in his kid's eyes and it's like this
is your fault.
You're doing this to your dad.
You did this.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I didn't want to do this.
You should go to school andfind a normal fucking job like
the rest of us, you talentlesshack, and then we kick Denzel
Washington and then walk away,all right.
So it's time to get into thethird part of this thing.
This will be the episode thatgets us at cease and desist.
(48:09):
Finally um so it's time to getinto the third part, the what.
If so, we have all beeninserted into the creator.
What changes luke?
Uh, go ahead and set it off.
What changes with you in thecreator?
I meant james james.
What changes with you?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I was ready for luke to go.
I can, I can take it.
I can take it.
All right, luke.
What do you got?
Truth be told, I hope I'm notin this movie.
Do I have to be?
You are forced you are forcedyou could.
How about, oh, you go, you go.
I probably, uh, as they said inthe movie, would have uh turned
(48:50):
myself off.
I would have turned myself,you'd be an ai, I would have
gotten.
I would have like five timesbeen like what the fuck, what
the fuck, and just turned myselfoff because I I just couldn't
be able to handle this juststupidity of this world and the
fact that this giant floatingdevice has all the power over
this entire civilization.
Um, I don't think I would be onthe side of america.
(49:12):
I have to say, that was notpain.
I did not want to be anamerican in this movie, so I
would hope that I'm on this likeai side.
I feel like they.
They had a lot of, um, the waytoo much emotion, as I mean,
these are people's conscience,consciousnesses, uh, basically
uploaded to these bodies.
In my opinion, like it's notjust a robot and so like for
(49:33):
them, for the americans just belike dead, like that's an
ignorant thought.
It's very, very simple, minded,and I would not.
So I think I would have been onthe side of the ai um, and I
probably would have got blownand blown up by the, uh, the
floating god and sky,unfortunately, which only
covered a square mile, like Idon't, yeah, yeah like somehow
(49:55):
it would just start floatinginto the sky and they had no
clue it was coming.
It's enormous and super high upand, like they don't know until
it's on top of them, like yeah,but it just yeah I have zero
fucking anti-aircraft, like forreal nothing.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
No, it's someone.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Shoot that thing that's why the little girl was
built dude, no anti-aircraft,she is anti-aircraft oh my god
so yeah, I don't think I wouldactually be able to change the
plot much.
I think there's just too muchstupidity going on around me and
I would just, unfortunately,fall to the demise of the plot,
um, which is getting blown up bythe omega.
(50:34):
I actually think it might havefallen on me as it got blown up
because they like like portrayedit like, oh no, it didn't hit
anything, it was over somethingat the end of the movie, but
then it like somehow didn't landon anything.
So that was also odd and also,it crashed into a literal planet
.
This has happened several timesin movies we've watched
recently, where a thing that hasto be millions of tons in
(50:59):
weight, if not more, uh, itcollides with an immovable
object and then it's somehowstill has structure.
What the fuck Think about?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
it, it would cause catastrophic damage.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Uh, something that size plunging into the earth
would cause almost as muchdamage as a bomb.
It's a meteor strike, oh my God.
Yeah, and I want to hear youguys what would you guys do in
this one?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Do you have a what?
I have my what, if I know whatI'm going to do.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Oh yeah, go, go for it, I'll go last yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
So if you watched um the creator with uh, oh, yeah,
go, go for it, I'll go last.
So if you watched the Creatorwith Ryan Barron North, I would
spend my entire time just tryingto get the Veronica no Robot to
fall in love with me.
You'd be the mechanic.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
You're stealing Drew's girl.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
I would like write her poetry and I would songs and
just like hey why does stealingher have to be part of it?
Why can't you just be the?
mechanic because I'm not, I'mnot, I'm not that fucking lucky.
I had to watch the creator, um,so I, I know that I'm the
(52:18):
outside looking in and I justcan't let her go.
But then eventually we'd gettogether and I'd say, hey, you
remember, in the first 10minutes when they check off, gun
the fuck out of you guys beingable to create faces for
yourself.
Why don't you fill in that holein this?
Don't, don't get me wrong.
I appreciate fucking it andit's really cool when you let me
(52:40):
do that.
But like, why don't we justapply a layer right there and
you would be completelyindistinguishable?
I, I don't understand.
That seems like a weird designchoice to me, and that would be
the film me trying to explainthat.
Like, hey, I thought you wereintelligent.
(53:02):
Like that's the second part ofyour name.
Why don't we just close that up?
And then new america would haveno fucking idea what to do what
would they do?
yeah, what would they do?
Speaker 1 (53:18):
and you know, fucking no matter they encountered in
the head with an ice pick to seeif it went straight through or
not?
Speaker 2 (53:25):
yeah, so many deaths, so many deaths, but they
obviously don't care um james soin the opening scenes they had
something really interestingthat happened.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
I think that, uh, I think that I would be the
grandpa.
Do you remember when they werelike touting the uh, the ai,
like what I was doing for peopleand there was a little kid with
an ai grandpa, I was like whata great role to be like a
grandpa ai, where you just goaround being grandpa to people.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
To fill in that role.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, that's a beautiful way to use it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Like honestly.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
This is our community .
Grandpa the real grandpa is outin the fields.
We're working.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
He'll die soon because you know it's the future
.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Yeah, that's what I'd do.
That's it Okay, solid.
I'd be murdered very soon afterby the United States.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
They killed my grandpa again.
Oh my God, all right.
So, with that being the case,so we know our what-ifs dead
grandpa, um, and whatnot.
Uh, it's time for our quickfires.
Uh, james, you want to start usoff on our quick fires of this
particular piece of wastediphone space?
I guess is what this is yeahsure, let me see.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
Uh, I cannot think of a more overwrought and cliched
melodramatic scene than a childasking what's heaven?
Speaker 2 (55:09):
oh, my god, I didn't even think about that I did
cringe.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
I was like what's happened?
Speaker 2 (55:18):
So dumb Only a.
Nepo baby would have read thescript and gone Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
That is it.
I would say also, let's see,hold on One of my other notes.
Was anyone have fun after?
Do you remember their attemptat comedy?
Anyone have fun when the carwas getting shot up with the
bullets and he had all the likerefugee kids in the back and
that's like, that's their big,like oh, we're being playful.
(55:47):
One like an avengers movie orlike a marvel movie.
I have a note.
I have a note here, which issomeone was like this is where
we need to.
We need to put a line, and thisis where a marvel movie would
put a joke oh, dang nomad wasliterally that stupid fucking
(56:08):
avengers thing in the sky.
The us military doesn't workthat way, so true yeah, honestly
, I didn't have a lot of greatquick fires.
I say, turn it over to luke,luke what do you?
got, I've got.
I actually just I was justwriting stuff because it's more
funny than anything, this movie,if you really if you wanted to
(56:30):
watch it, like that's how you'dhave to watch it.
I did say blonde afro is a verybold choice.
Then, uh, baby denzel ispunching out of his league so
hard with maya holt, and thendot, dot, dot dot.
Holy shit, she's dead, becauseI did not expect that to happen.
Oh, that one girl was literallylooking at charred bodies, the
(56:56):
one that was working with joshua.
She didn't bat an eye.
Then he cuts the robot line andshe's like oh my god.
He said please, I was like what, don't get me wrong, you should
feel that way.
There was no empathy for thecharred bodies at all.
Kind of weird.
Everyone would have heard thosechoppers dropping in on that
(57:16):
one covert mission they weredropping in on.
I'm 20 minutes into this movieand I only remember one
character's name I remember noneof them my truck broke down.
Meanwhile there's bullet holesand a dead body in the back
truck.
The guy's like, yeah, get inwith all my kids.
Yeah, drew's just living hisbest life, hot wife and a good
(57:43):
job.
And then this old, toxic pieceof shit comes in and ruins it
seriously it's so true, likehe's just, he's like killing it,
he's made it into the aiindustry.
Like he's like, he's like itlooks clearly like a head of a
manufacturing plant and yeah Ishould never have poked my
screwdriver into that kid I'vedone five seconds.
(58:06):
I've learned everything about it.
The us army being pasted on theside of that big ass tank in
new roman, like times new roman,made me laugh.
It was literally just like areally like weird basic font.
Oh, all lowercase as well.
Um, I understand that the guywas like I'm never taking you to
normada.
And then they needed to takethe kid to normada and it was
(58:27):
like, okay, we'll all go tonormada.
Oh, you can't do that.
Like why that's?
You don't have to take joshua,just take the kid.
Please don't take joshua.
That's the whole thing.
Zero injuries after being atthe center point of explosion.
Maya, she's laying on thattable.
She looks beautiful, stillbeautiful.
She was at the center point ofan explosion.
She would be, I mean, veryinjured.
(58:48):
She probably shouldn't haveeven been alive at all.
Um, and then also, not a singlechance that that small child
could possibly pull a grown manany amount of distance Right.
Zero chance.
And that's all my quick fires,that's all.
I've got.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Yeah, well, I'm coming at you with.
So if you really felt AIweren't people, you wouldn't
hate them so much.
Nomad is the dumbest basket toput all your eggs in.
This is fucking Avengersstupidity.
All on the Marvel thought I'msitting here waiting for the
(59:23):
double cross, double cross.
Um wow, you guys check off, gunthe shit out of them wearing
other people's faces.
Let's see here if we can makenomad immune to air defenses,
wouldn't it make more sense tomake theater ballistic missiles
with this capability Fireanywhere without the need for
Nomad, and cheaper.
Speaker 1 (59:42):
It's like you know where Nomad would be great On
the ground, In one place.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Right, I'm having difficulties understanding the
economic capabilities of NewAsia.
New Asia, it's like the writersasked Max Stone and trey parker
to name this and then I saidwas current asia mad at this
movie?
Have we just said fuck it?
To precision weaponry?
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
yeah, man, denzel washington's kid is also not
precision.
No one in this movie isprecision.
In fact, the AIs are even lessprecise than the people, and
it's just like it seems likeeverybody is, like we don't give
a shit about any kind ofprecision.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Nothing, nothing.
And then I said wait, theadvanced child surprises the man
when she exerts effort todisplay the same powers as a
television remote control.
And then I said ellen andmartha stewart's hybrid is a
weird choice for field agent.
Let's see, it feels like dustand debris.
(01:00:49):
Having unfettered access to theai's brain cylinder is a
strange design choice.
Uh, maybe less money on coprobots and more on
infrastructure.
Why are we so amazed?
This kid has all the powers ofan alexa and then looks like
nomad.
Finally ate the cgi budget.
And then my last note was doesamerica believe in valhalla now,
(01:01:13):
or is she just saying shit?
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I think america was taken over by those runic nazis
makes sense?
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
makes sense or a leftover?
Viking group finally sailedover it took over.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
The us was so concerned with the ai that we
stopped watching.
We let the ball drop we werethey were playing the long game
(01:01:55):
that would make.
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
That would make this movie 2,000% better.
Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
They just come up with a prequel about that.
Like the origin Started offjust raiding lighthouses in the
northeast.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I would release a statement that High and Dry was
wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
This is the greatest franchise of all time.
This is the greatest movie evermade.
When you said something aboutthe kid, who got the face, I was
like.
When he said all I need is thegreatest movie ever made, I did.
When you said something aboutthe kid I got the face.
I was like.
When he said all I need is aface, then all I could think is
about when fogel says in superbad, you don't have the training
or the steady hand to pull offa procedure like that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
So ha, oh my god dude , I'm just thinking about the,
the side film directed by ZackSnyder Zack Snyder's the creator
when it shows a fucking Vikingboat just floating and they're
creating children andgenerational just floating on
(01:02:54):
the coast of New York, waitingfor their moment, on the coast
of New York, waiting for theirmoment, and then, in 2224, the
moment arrives and the Vikingsinvade America.
My perfect chef's kiss.
I get it now.
I get it now.
(01:03:14):
This wasn't a dumb movie, itwas a genius movie.
Oh my God now.
This wasn't a dumb movie, itwas a genius movie.
Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Oh my god.
So one more time.
What?
What did high and dry get?
This final score was a two outof five.
But don't let that, don't.
Don't let it fool you.
Like we said, you watch ayoutube video about the visual
effects and that's it.
Yeah, don't you put it on.
It'll be a waste of two hoursand 15 minutes.
This is not a good bad movie,this is just a bad, bad movie
yeah, bad, bad movie.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I feel honestly, I feel almost guilty because
fucking prometheus and tombstonegot a three and I and that does
not do them justice, but nolike yeah I'm offended that the
creator got so close toTombstone and Prometheus, the
(01:04:05):
animation.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
people did their job.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
That just goes to show what a good you know the
background, how important theyare to movies.
In all honesty, it really doesa testament to that in all,
honesty.
Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Clap for the grips at the end.
If fucking keanu reeves was inthe creator, all the cgi people
would be getting new motorcycles.
So hey, everyone.
Uh, thank you so much forlistening.
The creator sucks, ken warunabe.
Shame on you for being a partof this, you fucking slut, but
(01:04:39):
we still love you.
Denzel, you deserve a punch inthe stomach.
Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Okay, at least and you'll thank us for it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yeah, and he's like nah, you right and for the
listeners at home.
I can't stand my kid either.
I can't stand him either.
And for the listeners at home.
Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I can't stand my kid either I can't stand him either.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
And for the listeners at home if you want to watch
the Creator, just check out2001's AI, artificial
Intelligence, jude Law, haley,joel, osment they're the true
heroes of this.
Thanks everyone for listening.
We're High and Dry Podcast Bye.
What's happening?
Fuck you Denzel.
um no, it didn't feel like I was balls deep in the
movie.
It felt like the movie wasballs deep in me and I was not
enjoying it yeah, no, I was justkidding, I'm just taking it
from all sides and it was lessthan I mean.
It was consensual, it justwasn't.
You know, you could tell thatthere wasn't any love in my eyes
, you know yeah, yeah, yeah, soall right, hey, everybody,
(00:24):
welcome to high and dry podcast,the only podcast keeping alive
the fandom of x play.
If anyone recalls that, it wasthe uh yeah, it was the g4 with
the one guy and the one womanand they would talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
They were talking about yeah yeah, we're clearly
really big on this show you know, the one image that you see
when it first comes up, it'sboth of them crossing their arms
back to back which I think ishilarious.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Sounds about right.
Yeah, it was like morgan webb,I think was her name.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
They're they're playful but knowledgeable and a
little not corporate.
Right, I know they're justgonna talk about video games
this was before.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Uh, I don't know.
I don't know why we needed thatshow and morgan, morgan webb
and adam sessler there we go.
I wonder how sessler's doing.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Do you remember how important video games were to us
at?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
that time.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Like way more important than they should have
been.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh my gosh, for sure, for sure, my personality
revolved too much around it.
Yeah, I didn't tune into X-Play.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
No, I didn't tune into X-Play but I did read video
game news and, like, engaged invideo game conversations online
a lot well, um, what a weirdpodcast that would be.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Hey, we're doing x play, you know, with, with, with
the guy, with the guy, butwe're high and dry podcast.
I'm your host, ryan barronnorth, with me, as always, james
crossland and luke.
Uh, how you guys doing todaydoing good, good Doing good.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
My AC's out, but I got a portable unit, so I'm okay
.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Now Fuck yeah, fuck, yeah, james, I'm doing all right
.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm going lobster diving tonight.
Hopefully I get some this time.
All the ones I caught last timewere too small, and so I had to
let them live For now.
For now, eat Grow, I'll be back.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Scars their back so he can find them again.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's a lot of shit.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh well, yeah, and I'm speaking of video games.
I picked up the Silent Hill 2remake.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I've been diving into that.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I've been enjoying the hell out of it, just in time
for October and spooky season.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Do you feel like it was a good remake of it?
Remaster of it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It was a total remake .
Okay, they just rebuilt thething ground up and I think they
did a fantastic job, yeah, andit's taken me right into spooky
season, and speaking of spookyseason, we are going to be
talking about the creator.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And if you haven't seen it by the end of this,
you'll understand why it ties tospooky season, because this was
a horror.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The fact that it's out there and you might
accidentally watch it isterrifying.
So we break our podcast downinto three parts.
First, we are going to reviewthis film.
As you can imagine, our reviewsof this are going to be stellar
, and we do that using the Lukemethod of filmology.
Then we're going to move intoour second part, where we get
(03:42):
onto the golden path and we'regoing to talk about what makes
this movie so deep andintriguing, and then we're going
to dive into a what if?
Scenario where we insertourselves into the film.
But what makes it so specialand fun to enjoy is that we're
going to be doing it drunk andor high.
So, james, what are you smokingthis week?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
This week I've got a concentrate called uh straw nana
smoothie and it does taste alittle bit like strawberry
banana.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's really good okay , all right, not just ash what
did you say?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
you said last week just a mix of some stuff.
Yeah, this one is presumablyhas good taste.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Single origin nice, very nice, very nice.
And uh luke, uh, you just gotsome, uh, some gas station mix
up that uh yeah, I'm actuallyjust drinking gasoline today.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I have something called cookie batter.
Um, it does not taste likecookies, trust me.
I love me some cookies and ittastes much worse than that.
But as far as flour goes, itdoes taste pretty good.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, very nice, very nice, and I will say, before
going to mine, that I am nowgoing to try and find a fourth
host.
Who is just going to fuckingpound gas station boner pill.
Who is just going to fuckingpound gas station Bonerpil.
It's just fighting thismind-numbingly terrifying
erection through the golden bathGuys.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm so scared.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But anyway, I'm going to be joining you with Knob
Creek.
This is a small batch, 100proof, 50 horsepower, aged nine
years, crafted for quality andfull flavor.
I'm excited to go, so let'sline them up.
First toast, first hit.
(05:39):
This one goes out to our newestlistener up in the Yukon White
Horse.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Cheers, cheers, thanks Alaska.
This one goes out to our newestlistener up in the Yukon white
horse cheers, cheers, thanksAlaska.
Well, that's fun Alaska, that'snew.
I don't think we've had anyonefrom Alaska before no, I don't
think so.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
oh, that was.
That was delightful.
Um, it's's like you go to acigar bar and we'll spend a dude
there for like four hours justfucking gnawing on a fatty.
You guys get really drunk andmake out Boner pills, bop, a
(06:20):
bunch of boner pills.
Next episode I'll crossfade,I'll do gas station boner pills
and bourbon.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It'll make it just a little more interesting.
A little more exciting, if youwill.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Guys, I'm really scared right now.
I think it is not going down.
Ooh, yeah.
So you know, speaking of gasstation boner pills, you know
they take a needle to help youwith that.
Yeah, If it doesn't go downafter four hours.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, they have to drain the blood out.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Really yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Really yeah.
So if you just could find abunch of mosquitoes, you could
take care of it yourself.
Really, Leeches yeah, that'swhat I use.
I just pop a couple gas stationboner pills and then, right
when I want to go to bed, I justa couple of leeches, oh come on
and pass out.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, it's part of my ritual.
All right, so it's time for oursecond toast, second hit.
This one goes out to the film.
Here's to the creator.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
The creator.
Yeah, cheers.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I mean, you gave us content, glorious content.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Reminds me of bo burnham and his inside special.
He had something about content,just like consuming content,
yeah, or about him makingglorious.
I can't remember the song.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's what my fucking I mean.
I'm terrible at it.
If I was really diving into thecontent, my social media would
be much more active, but I justoh my God Drives me insane.
I hate that part of it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's horrible.
Thanks for listening everybody.
It's hard.
Anytime someone asks me why Istopped streaming video games, I
tell them it's not thestreaming of the video game,
it's the making content.
It's a task and it's an artform too.
Anyone can just put out content, but making good content and
something that's digestible andsomething that people enjoy is
(08:22):
hard.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's not easy to do Very difficult and something
that people enjoy.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's hard, it's not easy to do Very difficult.
It's hard to make it look easy,like the people who put in like
12 hours of editing.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh, and that's oh for sure.
You don't realize that thatvideo that you just scrolled
through, that took someone hours, Yep, oh my God.
So here's the final toast,final hit, final shot.
This one goes to those contentcreators just chugging along.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Cheers.
Doing their best out here.
Cheers guys, Ooh.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Ooh, all right, now I'm going to chase that with a
whiskey and caffeine-free Cokejust to sip on while we talk.
So it's time to dive into thefirst part of this podcast.
It's time to review the creatorand, as I said earlier, we use
the Luke method of filmology todetermine what a film scores,
(09:15):
and you can check more of thatout at his individual content
page.
So, luke, do you want to walkus through what we're about to
do?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, so we break this down into five categories.
This is basically how a filmshould be rated in order to say
it's truly a good movie.
So the five categories areacting, and then it's
cinematography, then score,story and then rewatchability.
And personally I know thatone's probably a more
(09:45):
controversial one rewatchabilitybut in my opinion, for it to be
, there's a difference between agood artistic film and just a
good movie.
And rewatchability for me, if Idon't want to put it on again,
was it really a good movie.
Oh yeah, definitely there is adifference between enjoying it
that one time, but I thinkoverall.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, no, and you can like a movie and still accept
that it is categorically a badfilm a hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But I also believe that you can watch a really good
movie.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
That's like heart-wrenching or something I
want to watch also like I don'twant to watch it again.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Which which, which is fair, but it just that's why,
something for to get a five outof five.
You got to be able to put it onagain like you can get that
four out of five, and it'sreally good and it was like wow,
I enjoyed that so much, butit's like take something off
just just for, just for me, justfor us personally so no, I'm
not really gonna throw on thegodfather again.
I'm not really gonna throw oncitizen kane for a third round
(10:43):
shutter islands, one for me thatI really, really loved shutter
island for my first experience.
But, man, maybe I'd put it onagain in like 20 years because
I'm like dang I forgot what thatmovie was like yeah, but like I
wouldn't just throw it on againright now because I'm bored on
a sunday, that's for sure samefor me, it's Zootopia and I'll
(11:03):
be able to handle it again.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I actually got in a threads war speaking of content
creation.
I went on threads and I saidthat I love vampires obviously I
mean, if you listen to thepodcast in the past, you know
that I'm a vampire guy and Isaid that there is no vampire
film that scores higher than asix out of 10, period.
And then I went to war witheveryone who was obsessed with
(11:29):
Lost Boys and I'm like, reallyWatch Lost Boys again.
Watch like they impose just arandom image of Jim Morrison.
There's a sax solo.
It's like this is a terriblemovie.
I feel like you've discounteddracula dead and loving it well,
and someone brought that up andI was like I stand corrected I
(11:53):
there's always one, thoughthat's an outlier, you, but as a
whole you would say, yes, sixout of ten, but that's the
outlier I would.
I would give dracula, dead andloving it, a six, because
Dracula, as Leslie Nielsen, didnot win the film.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It wasn't a vampire film.
It was a vampire killer film.
Yes, exactly no, it's as avampire film, it's a 6 out of 10
.
As a vampire hunter film, muchhigher.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Oh, through the roof, through the fucking roof.
But we should have put somepapers down, alright right,
let's dive on in all right,we're not doing dracula, done
loving it, we're doing a farworse piece of shit.
We're doing the creator.
Uh, let's dive on in.
So, um, you want to kick thisthing off?
(12:43):
Uh, tell, what did you think ofthe creator before?
That golden path is coming tome fast.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So what did I think?
What did I think of the creator?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Actually, would you mind if I went first, now that I
mentioned that I can feel thisknob creek coming up hard,
please, all right.
So while I still have a normalmindset, let's talk creator.
So acting I, I felt off theyeah, would I have paid you for
(13:17):
it?
No, honestly, I felt you wereall just awful, denzelzel.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Washington's Nepo Baby was not good.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Not at all.
Not at all, and I hate nepotism, but we'll do that in a golden
path.
Cinematography and animation.
This film had some decentvisual effects.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, without a doubt , they're really good.
I like the visual effects.
I felt like the movement of therobots had weight and stuff.
I felt 100, 100.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
They did a really good job no, you guys obviously
spent a lot of money on makingthis a pretty looking film.
I can't argue with that.
I do have a note here, though,though, that at one point, nomad
blew your budget.
Yeah, and there were, there wasa point where you saw that it
(14:11):
just dropped off, yeah we'regonna do really simple scenery
for the next 25 minutes like oureffects department just had the
lights shut off yeah, we'regonna do the next few scenes in
a room.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's just gonna be people in a room talking, and
then we'll, and then we'lloverspur some shots of nomad we
made with some b-roll yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So then when we come to the score and the story score
, it brought nothing to thetable for me.
Story, uh, ridiculous.
I mean, we're talking umrealism here.
This, this is this is what,fucking what?
Um.
First, like if, if you guyshate ai so fucking much, um, you
(14:59):
would think of them as people.
You wouldn't think of them as acomputer program, um, which you
claim to do.
Second, this whole concept thatthe us military fucking throws
all their eggs into the nomadbasket.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yes, dumbest, dumbest fucking concept in the world
literally, if the other side canjust destroy one, like they
said, the tides will turn.
Man, why did you put all of you?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
why did we do that first off.
So I'm I'm gonna be rollingpretty heavy in this episode.
As a a, I've sat behindmilitary threat briefings, all
right.
And what the us military willnever fucking do is this
(15:45):
Avengers nonsense, where there'sjust this floating machine in
the sky.
No, we create a missile thatcan insert itself through your
front door, see what you'rewatching on Netflix, and then
blow you up.
Specifically that's what we do,and this concept that we
created some avengers bullshitfloating in the sky, like if we
(16:09):
have the ability to let thenomad float through the sky
without any sort of anti-airtaking it out, we would just
attach that to individualmissiles and as soon as we knew
there was a factory of ai, itwould just go blow it up.
That would be the end of it,and we would do it from fucking
Florida.
(16:29):
I don't know why they were there.
I don't know why EllenDeGeneres was down there leading
these troops.
I don't understand.
And then rewatchability I couldbarely finish it.
The first time I had to fightmy it was like it was like that
fucking zach, uh, snyder,bullshit all over again for me.
(16:54):
Yeah, yeah, oh, my god, oh mygod.
What was the name of that movie?
Rebel moon rebel moon.
It was like rebel moon part 1.5and I I'm sitting here having to
sit behind it and, like thislittle girl robot, has the
powers of an alexa and I'msupposed to be impressed you
(17:18):
know, what's funny is, when wetalked about rebel moon, we were
like you know what would be agood story the story of that
robot gaining sentience and thenthat happened.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's like nope, you did not nail that one either.
If this is what the robot did.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
If this is what the robot did, zack Snyder should
just be dragged out into apublic square and executed.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So if you had to give a score to those, what would
they be Acting?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
two Cinematography, four, Score and story one.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
No, they're different , those are separate.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh my bad Score, I don't know.
Fucking two Story Story one.
Yeah, rewatch ability a oneokay yeah, that's, that's what
it is for.
Yeah, you could put kenwaranabe in there, all you want
(18:18):
underutilized underutilized.
He should have been the star ofthat movie yeah, he should have
been a child.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
He should have been a child with old man face it's ai
, we could do stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I mean, if you've ever fucking seen the show on
netflix with the amazing firstseason, um, where they have the
stack altered carbon alteredcarbon.
We could have done that wherehe was a child, and ken
wananabe's body, which is how Ifeel every day.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Also these robots.
Why are they in humanoid form?
Why haven't they developed newforms of physical interaction
with the world?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Why is there a big fucking hole in all of their
heads?
Why?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
did that one guy stick a screwdriver into the
hole and he was like she's soadvanced.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
What the fuck screwdriver was that and how?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
was it linked to his hand?
I, I, no.
You guys are you're confused?
It was a magical wand and thatis how it gave him all the
information the moment.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
It was a spell new asia, new asia for real.
Did you ask matt stone and treyparker to come up with the
names of these fucking things?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I literally I actually have a note that says
the new language being callednew asian sounds pretty fucking
racist was current asia mad atthis.
Well, what's crazy is theyspeak like Asian languages.
It says speaking Thai, it saysspeaking Japanese, and then, for
some reason, there's this newAsian language.
(19:57):
Like why?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
What happened?
Oh my God, yeah, what the fuckhappened.
That Western, that fuckingDenzel Washington's child, had a
say on how Asia would formitself into a singular entity
okay well, yeah, all right yeah,james, we need your score or
else we need to get on.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Those are some golden path.
Yeah, I'm on the golden pathright now and I am pissed off I
think okay, so first acting, Ithink that, think that John
David Washington was real bad.
I don't think I've ever likedhim in a movie that he's been in
which is bad.
You shouldn't have someone whomumbles and has no charisma.
(20:40):
He doesn't have enough patience.
He doesn't sell anything hesays, he just says it and he's
like listen, the fact that I'msaying it has sold it enough.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I've said a thing denzel washington had life
experiences that made himcapable of activating those to
be an actor.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
This guy didn't, apparently not.
Uh, I thought jimmy chan wasall right.
She wasn't in it enough, shewas only in that opening scene,
which I liked, the opening scene.
I thought, like I have notes,that I liked the opening scene
and it kind of set me up and Iwas like all right, I think this
might actually be a good movieI actually enjoyed probably the
first 45 minutes pretty decentlyyeah, like, like, don't get me
(21:20):
wrong generous, generous,generous, they found the robot
in the dump.
Even up to that point he waslike, and he had to like, knock
on her helmet and be like listen, it's just a robot you could
see, I actually lied it was morelike the first 20 minutes now
that I really think about ityeah, like after that point it
was bad, um.
So I thought jimmy chan wasgood and she wasn't in it enough
.
I thought the little girl as anactress was good, the little
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robot girl.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I thought 100 agree 100.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Those are only two people and they didn't do enough
.
And also, john david washingtonwas on the screen like all the
time and he would not stopdelivering lines badly, yes.
So, uh, acting gets it too.
Uh, cinematography andanimation I liked the animation
of this movie.
I thought it was really coolwhat they chose to do.
I think a better movie couldhave sold us on the nomad if it
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was like way over the top andthey were like, if it was like
more over, it had to be.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It would have to be like a mech movie like a mech
suit movie, like what the fuckdid the nomad do?
That we can't do with othershit, right?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
they could have sold today they sold us on pacific
rim like that movie, despite itsflaws.
They sold it to us and we werelike that's just because rihanna
was in it no, there was thetone.
It did a good, it did a comicbooky kind of like goofy which
they should have done.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
They should have done .
Speaker 1 (22:39):
They should have been goofy yeah, and this, this it
was they took it to, exactly toit was like shitly don't
seriously.
Yeah, they thought this was aserious movie, and every time
John David Washington deliveredeither a serious or comedic line
, they told us that it was notany of those things, yeah so
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cinematography I'd give it likea four score.
I didn't notice the score andusually that's good for me, but
it also didn't make me feelhyped at any point or anything
like that.
So I give it a very middling.
Three story man the story wasreal bad, I put.
(23:24):
I put in my notes that this isthat the nomad is just the
mobile oppression palace fromFuturama put in my notes that
this is that the nomad is justthe mobile oppression palace
from futurama.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
The mobile oppression palace worked because it was a
comedy and yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So nomad was real bad their whole.
They didn't explore any of likethe ai questions that they
asked, like they put ai in frontof us and didn't even didn't
give us any of their culture orany of their motivations or
anything like that.
I thought it was just reallyGod is awful.
I'd give the story of one.
(24:01):
How do you make Allison Janneyon, you know, not compelling?
Allison Janney is compelling ineverything she does.
Compelling Allison Janney'scompelling in everything she
does.
I taught her I think I havesomething about Allison Janney
and her being just like just arough character, like yeah,
someone put a rough draft of acharacter.
I said Allison Janney'scharacter is more of a robot in
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this movie than the robots, butnot in a way that was compelling
, even if that was like theirpoint, like if they were trying
to make like a no, it was notyeah how they were farther than
from humanity, than even therobots.
No, you just did a bad job.
You made a really wooden personum storytelling.
Yeah, like a one rewatch, billy, I don't want to watch this
(24:45):
movie again.
One I would never, never, Iwill never watch this well, yeah
, honestly, your score was onlyone point better than ryan.
So this movie is coming, havinga rough, rough time already.
Will luke save it?
Oh, I have to say I don't thinkso acting.
(25:06):
Um, like james said, I thinkthat the the girl in this movie,
what was madeline voyles?
Madeline voyles, I thought shewas phenomenal.
I actually like I was veryimpressed, like I thought she
pulled my attention quite a bitwhen it just sucks that they
used her as a prop, yeah, butlike, even just like she just
had this, like she kind ofportrayed this desire to be a
(25:29):
kid who's like a military weapon, Like that's crazy to say, but
she did, Like she came off verygood, Like her character was
portrayed well.
Again, like James said, too,Gemma Chan was good.
I think Ken's character wasgood, though vague, but again he
delivered, because it's fuckingKen.
Watanabe, he should have beenthe main character, yeah, so it
(25:52):
gets a three for me.
It's not it was nothing special, but it was.
It was nothing special, but atthe same time I thought like
some of the characters werecompelling enough to keep me
interested.
I also actually liked the uh airobot.
His name's Amar Chidapatel, hewas the Omni, he was the Indian
(26:14):
like Omni and I don't know.
Like his character was kind ofgood, like very, very small, but
for like kind of a sidecharacter, I thought it was
interesting.
So it got a three for me.
Cinematography oh God, I almostgave it a five.
I really did, but, like Ryansaid, I do think that it fell
off at times, but you could tellwhen they were trying, holy
(26:36):
shit, like they were delivering.
Those robots were insanely cool, their movements, like I at one
point was thinking that theymight have even used some sort
of CGI Because like the way theymoved it very fluid, it was
very cool.
I gave it a four, though, so Idon't think it was able to get
the perfect five.
And then the score uh, veryunmemorable.
(26:58):
But there's a couple songs thatI thought were pretty fun.
Same time they were fun I don'tknow if they really fit the
movie at the time.
So, uh, it just lands right inthe middle at a three for me
Story is fucking god awful.
I mean I could go on and on andon.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And we will, on the golden path.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, you know, I have a random monkey detonated
the fucking bomb that was on theside of the tank.
Three beats are from explosion.
What is this?
Is this Reginald in ourrole-playing game?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
well, no like like what is happening.
So that's golden path, that isgolden dogs.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I said okay, okay, okay, sorry, sorry, sorry.
But yeah, it was horrible.
I have nothing good to sayabout this story but at the same
time there were points like thefirst 20 minutes were pretty
entertaining.
I did enjoy certain like I.
I kind of got what they weretrying to go for, so I got a one
.
I don't think it deserved azero for that rewatch ability
(28:00):
zero.
I don't ever want to watch itagain.
I wouldn't recommend it toanyone to even watch the first
time I didn't know zero wasenough zero.
Oh for sure, yeah, you can forsure give it zero I changed my
rewatch ability to zero okay, sotwo points subtracted from zero
, so a hundred percent itliterally it was.
I mean I wouldn't watch itagain like I consider a zero, so
(28:23):
I would consider a one.
You would never watch it again,but you would tell somebody you
gotta watch it once like it wasno, no.
Uh, I would not recommend thegot to watch it once Like it was
no, no.
I would not recommend thecreator to anybody.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
No, if I'm at a Thanksgiving with in-laws and
they recommend, just becausethey're scrolling through Hulu,
that we put on the creator onThanksgiving, I will get in a
physical altercation to keepthat off.
The television.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Oh man oh my God.
So, yeah, it it was, it was justit was rough.
Like you know, you can't say itwasn't, it was uh, I'm getting
I messed up the the score realquick so I'm finishing my score
up again but it was, it wasrough, it was just not a good
movie in in any way, shape orform.
(29:06):
So, yeah, it's gonna end up ata.
Yeah, the rewatch ability Ithink zero is really important
because, like the only reasonI'd want to watch this movie
again is because jimmy chan, Iwant to watch her in anything
she's in.
I would.
I'll just turn on the it crowd.
She was.
She was in the it crowdcountdown episode as a countdown
(29:27):
groupie.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's right, that's right.
And she said will I see youlater tonight?
Yes, that's her.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So I'll just watch that scene whenever I want to
look at Jim and Jay.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I would do the same thing for Veronica.
No.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Oh yeah, she was a pretty minor character in this
one too.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
When they killed her, I was like you guys had me for
30 seconds.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I know, I thought the same thing.
I was literally.
I went holy fuck, like, are youlike?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I literally said it out loud when they blew I was
like you guys had me for 30seconds, but for those 30
seconds I was on team new asia.
Well, this movie important thismovie.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I mean I thought this was gonna end up total at a one
but it ended up getting a twoout of five for high and dry
total.
Out of all of our scores twoout of five, because it had good
effects.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
It had good effects.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
The effects for sure saved the score.
It did, and like it wasmediocre in other places too.
It was man.
They did not deliver on thatstory.
Oh my god, it was just anunwatchable movie yeah,
absolutely watchable.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So, folks at home um, don't think that two out of
five is a good score, becauseit's not all right.
Um, so, folks at home, whywould anyone think?
That two out of five is a good.
Yeah, don't think it's a goodscore, um, because we could have
given this a zero, but it hadgood effects.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
If you're watching, just watch a YouTube video about
its effects.
Don't watch the movie, just gowatch, because that would be
cool do a compilation of all thescenes, the b-roll they have of
Nomad, with like some kind ofmusic over it, and then you'll
be like wow so now?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
so, at that point, it is time to get on to the golden
path and, despite this filmhaving already been done in 2001
by AI, with Haley Joel Osmentand Jude Law, we're going to
jump onto the golden path rightnow with the creator.
But first it's time to take ourfinal shot, final hit, final
(31:30):
toast, final drug.
This one, this one goes out to?
Uh, so far, well, I can't saythat.
Well, james, I I need to askyou, jane, was this better than
Rebel Moon?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, I'm sorry.
Wait, wait, hold on.
Sorry.
Yes, this one was better thanRebel Moon.
Sorry, I apologize.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Rebel Moon, rebel Moon, I was so bored.
This one I at least was able totake notes.
Rebel Moon, I like had to turnoff and then come back so many
times.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
And finish later because it was so full my eyes
fucking rolled back in my head.
Alright, so Rebel Moon, fuckyou.
Here is to the creator beingable to beat Rebel Moon by the
fucking hair of its nuts.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Shout out to your visual effects.
This one goes out to thecreator's visual effects.
Yeah, cheers, they had a weightthat Rebel Moon's effects did
not have.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Cheers, all right.
So with that, folks at home,it's time to dive onto the
golden path.
We are now sufficiently drunkand high.
It's time to really lay out to,to put the creator on its back,
spread its legs and see whatthis film was about.
(33:00):
James, what are your goldenthoughts?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
this movie wasn't about anything.
This movie, this movie wasabout a word game about Asimov's
laws of robotics that theydidn't set up.
And then at the end they werelike we have a word game and it
was like in five minutes thelast five minutes, that was the
(33:27):
point of the movie Likegoddammit.
So dumb.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
What the?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
fuck.
This movie was a bad movie.
One thing that I can say that Iliked was the retrofuturism of
robots.
It almost had like a Falloutfeel at the beginning it's very
funny because I said I can'ttell if it's the year 1991 or
(33:55):
2191.
Oh my god.
At the beginning it was likethe Jetsons almost when they had
the rise of robots.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well, I was with you guys in that one, because in my
notes I had said that, hey,maybe we should spend less money
on robot cops and more money oninfrastructure.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, Nuclear bomb resistant infrastructure Nope.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Fuck.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
All the money went to the police tanks and police
robots.
Yeah, I said I really liked howquickly it went from robots
being used to like replaceworkers to beating and shooting
people like it was really reallyquick transition in like the
opening, and it went from likehopeful to like no.
I thought it was good, thoughit went from like hopeful to
like a really dark and I waslike, oh man, maybe this movie
(34:47):
is gonna be like fucking good.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It's gonna say I thought it was gonna be dark too
and I was like, oh man, maybethis movie is gonna be like
fucking good, it's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I thought it was gonna be dark too and I actually
said as well that why are theylike cutting out like violent
moments?
I almost wanted it to like leaninto that, like be dark, like
make this like a yeah, let's doit, let's yeah I was like come
on, send it, and then it did not, and I was like no, instead it
was just a commentary on chineseeconomic growth.
(35:11):
Very bizarre, very it wasbizarre and it like it put it
kind of like caught me off guardbecause I I thought this movie,
I thought this movie was likein line with values and was
going to have something to say.
It was like it seemed like acohesive values at the beginning
because I wrote like I'msurprised how well the movie is
making me empathize with ourcharacter, like in that first
(35:31):
scene where where he was likewhere jimmy chan is pregnant, as
like the movie's compassion forterrorists and refugees and
this disdain it has for powerand the military and deceit and
coercion I was tricked toimmediately undermined.
You know they're like oh you'regonna like him, oh, you're going
to like him, and then they justtry to fight that thought.
(35:53):
The rest of the movie they'relike no, no, no, you're not
going to like him.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, this movie made me think it was a different
movie, and I don't know why thatis.
I wonder if this movie tradedhands with writers and directors
.
A couple times I forgot to golook because I was so mad at
this movie.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I did not want to think about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I was like this movie .
I think it's worse when a moviebuilds up your expectations
that it's going to be good andthen fumbles really hard.
It gives me this sense ofdisdain about it.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it makes me so.
The performance here was soawful that it makes me mad at
Denzel Washington For emptyinghis balls into someone.
He emptied his balls into myfucking eyes.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Thanks a lot, Denzel.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
God damn it.
Like, why do I have to go towork every day when fucking
Denzel's fucking pre-cum doesn't?
Oh, I'm so mad, I'm so mad.
So, luke, what did you think?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I think could have real bit like the handover of
the director thing, may actuallykind of make sense to me
because I think, well, yes, thefirst 20 minutes were definitely
pretty good, the rest waspretty rough.
I would argue that if youfinished the movie, tied it up
in maybe 30 minutes to 45minutes after that first hour
mark, you could have saved it.
It could have been a good movie.
But they just drug it out foranother hour in 15 minutes, dude
(37:53):
I, when I looked and it was anhour through, I was like I was
like, oh cool, we're kind ofcoming to a resolution.
I paused because I was like, oh, it's almost done.
I saw an hour 15.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I almost lost my mind .
I did the same thing the sametime I almost lost my fucking
mind.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Listen, luke.
You just don't understand thatgood filmmaking means you gotta
have a second time when ananimal drops a bomb on the enemy
and you gotta also put like ahalf hour padding on either side
of that you can't just it's tooobvious if that is quoted
directly from the textbook ofzach snyder's school of movie
(38:35):
making yeah so, but my from thebook the golden path thought I
actually had was this moviealmost had this like underlying
tone of like the kind of the waron terrorism in the 90s, this
like we'll find all terrorists,no matter who they are, you to
(38:57):
give them to us, kill them too,and they like would come into
these rooms throughout the movieand be like get the ai, kill
them all.
Like all this stuff.
It was really on theme with itand I was like if we didn't
learn a damn thing the firstspeech was what it was for me.
I was like that literallysounded like a fucking speech
right out of the 90s aboutterrorism, straight out it was.
(39:19):
It was very weird to me.
So that was a thought that,like I was like are you guys
trying to go for that or are youguys just doing this on
accident because it is real?
I think it was real, I think itwas on purpose, I think it was
on purpose and that's what mademe excited for the movie.
And then they loved it.
But at the same time it wasvague, though After that first
time it was only a couple timesyou got that moment, but I saw
(39:40):
it.
I was like, oh, you did.
Why didn't you really lean intothat, see?
But even if they did, they'dstill be fucking 20 years too,
goddamn late and this would geta three out of five.
Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
Yeah, it was just like I waslike oh interesting, like it was
something that I was like forsuch a shitty movie.
(40:00):
I'm like very interesting themeyou've chosen to like kind of
like just sneak into there likeyeah, and the speech was very
much on.
But even throughout the movie Isaw like an hour, 15 hour and a
half in where they still werelike coming into like rooms and
it sounded almost like raidswhen they're kicking doors in
like early in the middle east,and I was just like dang, like
(40:20):
yeah, like like interrogatingthe uh, when they went to that
island they're like interrogate,just tell me where the ai are.
Like oh, like that's fuckingand I know that shit happened
over there.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
So like it's, it's interesting it was an
interesting thing to the movie.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
So no, if, if your ai futuristic film can be a
counterpoint to chris kyle's thesniper, well, I think it's like
evergreen right, essentiallylike now that modern combat is
the way it is, that that couldbe like an evergreen statement
about what's happening in, likeisrael and palestine, or what's
(40:55):
happening with russia policingits border, its border countries
, and shit like that.
Like it's not, it's now, likeit's how modern warfare works is
that you send a small team ofpeople into a civilization and
fucking harass them constantly.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
But even then they should have made that clear, and
so from my golden path yeah,it's bad.
It's bad, yeah.
And so for my golden paththoughts here.
This should have at least beena new commentary on ai.
But you didn't even accomplishwhat was done in 2001 by goddamn
(41:41):
fucking jude law.
Um, like holy shit.
Uh, hayley joel osmond with ateddy bear did more than you
could have and fucking jude lawplayed just a male prostitute ai
um and and jude law didn't havea fucking hole in his head,
(42:03):
because I feel it's a reallyweird design choice to allow
unfettered access of dust anddebris into the brain stem of
your piece of equipment here Imean like yeah it looks sick.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
If you want to, if you want to go into like arguing
how their magic robots work,it's already gone too far.
You know, like yeah, you canjust download someone's mind
real quick and then just uploadit like it's cool.
Yeah, they did that.
They did that, they downloadedsomeone's brain and they were
like, yeah, something, I saidsomething about the body.
(42:39):
Like oh my god.
Like imagine waking up seeingyour dead body.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Like oh my, that's horrific oh my god, why the fuck
was Ellen DeGeneres' and MarthaStewart's child the one who was
leading?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Who are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
The lead ground troop .
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Allison Janney.
Yeah, it was Allison Janney,but the guy with the mustache,
mark Menchaca McBride, was hischaracter.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I appreciate Allison Janney as an actress and for the
piece of shit that they handedher.
She did the best she could yeahit was awful.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, both Luke and I said that she was.
How do you make Allison Janneynot a great actress?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Oh my God.
But like there's a level ofrealism like, hey, you know, in
order to hold up an assaultrifle for 16 hours, before you
take a four hour nap, you needto have a bicep Like she can't
like anyway.
Anyway, golden, golden paththought here you had a chance to
comment on AI and what you didinstead was fucking nothing.
(43:47):
You did fucking nothing and youwere also borderline no, I
wouldn't even say borderline youwere racist while you did it.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
For sure, and I actually like that's the whole
reason.
I even suggested this moviewhen I did because I thought,
like the AI themes were veryheavy and I really saw something
I was like, okay, like thatcould for sure be a good film to
talk about.
Did not deliver at all in anyway, shape or form no, no.
So yeah, golden path, go fuckyourself there was one more
(44:20):
thing that you what you weresaying kind of kind of triggered
in me that I didn't reallythink about.
Why didn't the the ai of newasia just have someone who lives
there, kill jimmy chan?
Like, why did they have to dragfucking denzel washington's kid
all the way from america tokill her?
(44:41):
Couldn't?
Speaker 2 (44:43):
just any human have done it no, a bullet seems just
as effective here.
And you're telling me that thetechnology that we see today in
a fire tv and alexa bluetooth,it only exists in this child and
(45:04):
it is the only thing that couldwipe out the thing in the sky
that America decided to put alltheir eggs in the basket.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Why not EMPs?
Why not electromagnetic pulses?
That'd be very quick to justyeah.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Immediately have they not played Helldivers.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
That's the most effective way to handle the
automatrons.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
God If you launch a nuclear device and have it
detonate in the high altitude,it will release every.
Every nuclear device that hasever been launched, ever, ever
exploded, ever releases an emp.
If they all they had to do toend this movie was release a
(45:47):
single thermonuclear device inthe high altitude, it would not
kill anyone well, a lot ofpeople would die, but because,
as their cars and trains andplanes, fail, it would not kill
anyone directly through theexplosion.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
A lot of indirect killing of many, many people.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
That obviously didn't bother New America, because
they kept sending the Nomad.
Yeah, the Nomad kept blowingplaces up entirely.
That didn't bother them at all.
So all they had to do insteadof creating the Nomad was a
single, a single nuclear devicefrom America's stockpile of
(46:32):
6,000 of them in the highaltitude above New Asia.
And that's you mean Asia?
No, this is New Asiaia.
They're all together, so it'seasier for white people to
understand so fuck, just movegeneric people who look
(46:52):
different.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Got it holy I have to say, a good point.
When someone said that uh, goodold john david was on the
screen for far too long, thismovie could have been jumping
back and giving us like more,more story on, uh, alice and
jamie and really giving us morebackground on their hunt for a
two hour ten minute movie.
(47:13):
You could have really developedall of your characters and
instead you just kept giving usmore john david baby.
Oh, my god, I just for the lifeof me will never understand why
you did that.
I feel like you had thecriteria because of the creator.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Denzel washington deserves to be punched in the
stomach like curl over the fistand you look and then throw up
on the sidewalk.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
You look right in his kid's eyes and it's like this
is your fault.
You're doing this to your dad.
You did this.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I didn't want to do this.
You should go to school andfind a normal fucking job like
the rest of us, you talentlesshack, and then we kick Denzel
Washington and then walk away,all right.
So it's time to get into thethird part of this thing.
This will be the episode thatgets us at cease and desist.
(48:09):
Finally um so it's time to getinto the third part, the what.
If so, we have all beeninserted into the creator.
What changes luke?
Uh, go ahead and set it off.
What changes with you in thecreator?
I meant james james.
What changes with you?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I was ready for luke to go.
I can, I can take it.
I can take it.
All right, luke.
What do you got?
Truth be told, I hope I'm notin this movie.
Do I have to be?
You are forced you are forcedyou could.
How about, oh, you go, you go.
I probably, uh, as they said inthe movie, would have uh turned
(48:50):
myself off.
I would have turned myself,you'd be an ai, I would have
gotten.
I would have like five timesbeen like what the fuck, what
the fuck, and just turned myselfoff because I I just couldn't
be able to handle this juststupidity of this world and the
fact that this giant floatingdevice has all the power over
this entire civilization.
Um, I don't think I would be onthe side of america.
(49:12):
I have to say, that was notpain.
I did not want to be anamerican in this movie, so I
would hope that I'm on this likeai side.
I feel like they.
They had a lot of, um, the waytoo much emotion, as I mean,
these are people's conscience,consciousnesses, uh, basically
uploaded to these bodies.
In my opinion, like it's notjust a robot and so like for
(49:33):
them, for the americans just belike dead, like that's an
ignorant thought.
It's very, very simple, minded,and I would not.
So I think I would have been onthe side of the ai um, and I
probably would have got blownand blown up by the, uh, the
floating god and sky,unfortunately, which only
covered a square mile, like Idon't, yeah, yeah like somehow
(49:55):
it would just start floatinginto the sky and they had no
clue it was coming.
It's enormous and super high upand, like they don't know until
it's on top of them, like yeah,but it just yeah I have zero
fucking anti-aircraft, like forreal nothing.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
No, it's someone.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Shoot that thing that's why the little girl was
built dude, no anti-aircraft,she is anti-aircraft oh my god
so yeah, I don't think I wouldactually be able to change the
plot much.
I think there's just too muchstupidity going on around me and
I would just, unfortunately,fall to the demise of the plot,
um, which is getting blown up bythe omega.
(50:34):
I actually think it might havefallen on me as it got blown up
because they like like portrayedit like, oh no, it didn't hit
anything, it was over somethingat the end of the movie, but
then it like somehow didn't landon anything.
So that was also odd and also,it crashed into a literal planet
.
This has happened several timesin movies we've watched
recently, where a thing that hasto be millions of tons in
(50:59):
weight, if not more, uh, itcollides with an immovable
object and then it's somehowstill has structure.
What the fuck Think about?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
it, it would cause catastrophic damage.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Uh, something that size plunging into the earth
would cause almost as muchdamage as a bomb.
It's a meteor strike, oh my God.
Yeah, and I want to hear youguys what would you guys do in
this one?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Do you have a what?
I have my what, if I know whatI'm going to do.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Oh yeah, go, go for it, I'll go last yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
So if you watched um the creator with uh, oh, yeah,
go, go for it, I'll go last.
So if you watched the Creatorwith Ryan Barron North, I would
spend my entire time just tryingto get the Veronica no Robot to
fall in love with me.
You'd be the mechanic.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
You're stealing Drew's girl.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
I would like write her poetry and I would songs and
just like hey why does stealingher have to be part of it?
Why can't you just be the?
mechanic because I'm not, I'mnot, I'm not that fucking lucky.
I had to watch the creator, um,so I, I know that I'm the
(52:18):
outside looking in and I justcan't let her go.
But then eventually we'd gettogether and I'd say, hey, you
remember, in the first 10minutes when they check off, gun
the fuck out of you guys beingable to create faces for
yourself.
Why don't you fill in that holein this?
Don't, don't get me wrong.
I appreciate fucking it andit's really cool when you let me
(52:40):
do that.
But like, why don't we justapply a layer right there and
you would be completelyindistinguishable?
I, I don't understand.
That seems like a weird designchoice to me, and that would be
the film me trying to explainthat.
Like, hey, I thought you wereintelligent.
(53:02):
Like that's the second part ofyour name.
Why don't we just close that up?
And then new america would haveno fucking idea what to do what
would they do?
yeah, what would they do?
Speaker 1 (53:18):
and you know, fucking no matter they encountered in
the head with an ice pick to seeif it went straight through or
not?
Speaker 2 (53:25):
yeah, so many deaths, so many deaths, but they
obviously don't care um james soin the opening scenes they had
something really interestingthat happened.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
I think that, uh, I think that I would be the
grandpa.
Do you remember when they werelike touting the uh, the ai,
like what I was doing for peopleand there was a little kid with
an ai grandpa, I was like whata great role to be like a
grandpa ai, where you just goaround being grandpa to people.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
To fill in that role.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, that's a beautiful way to use it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Like honestly.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
This is our community .
Grandpa the real grandpa is outin the fields.
We're working.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
He'll die soon because you know it's the future
.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Yeah, that's what I'd do.
That's it Okay, solid.
I'd be murdered very soon afterby the United States.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
They killed my grandpa again.
Oh my God, all right.
So, with that being the case,so we know our what-ifs dead
grandpa, um, and whatnot.
Uh, it's time for our quickfires.
Uh, james, you want to start usoff on our quick fires of this
particular piece of wastediphone space?
I guess is what this is yeahsure, let me see.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
Uh, I cannot think of a more overwrought and cliched
melodramatic scene than a childasking what's heaven?
Speaker 2 (55:09):
oh, my god, I didn't even think about that I did
cringe.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
I was like what's happened?
Speaker 2 (55:18):
So dumb Only a.
Nepo baby would have read thescript and gone Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
That is it.
I would say also, let's see,hold on One of my other notes.
Was anyone have fun after?
Do you remember their attemptat comedy?
Anyone have fun when the carwas getting shot up with the
bullets and he had all the likerefugee kids in the back and
that's like, that's their big,like oh, we're being playful.
(55:47):
One like an avengers movie orlike a marvel movie.
I have a note.
I have a note here, which issomeone was like this is where
we need to.
We need to put a line, and thisis where a marvel movie would
put a joke oh, dang nomad wasliterally that stupid fucking
(56:08):
avengers thing in the sky.
The us military doesn't workthat way, so true yeah, honestly
, I didn't have a lot of greatquick fires.
I say, turn it over to luke,luke what do you?
got, I've got.
I actually just I was justwriting stuff because it's more
funny than anything, this movie,if you really if you wanted to
(56:30):
watch it, like that's how you'dhave to watch it.
I did say blonde afro is a verybold choice.
Then, uh, baby denzel ispunching out of his league so
hard with maya holt, and thendot, dot, dot dot.
Holy shit, she's dead, becauseI did not expect that to happen.
Oh, that one girl was literallylooking at charred bodies, the
(56:56):
one that was working with joshua.
She didn't bat an eye.
Then he cuts the robot line andshe's like oh my god.
He said please, I was like what, don't get me wrong, you should
feel that way.
There was no empathy for thecharred bodies at all.
Kind of weird.
Everyone would have heard thosechoppers dropping in on that
(57:16):
one covert mission they weredropping in on.
I'm 20 minutes into this movieand I only remember one
character's name I remember noneof them my truck broke down.
Meanwhile there's bullet holesand a dead body in the back
truck.
The guy's like, yeah, get inwith all my kids.
Yeah, drew's just living hisbest life, hot wife and a good
(57:43):
job.
And then this old, toxic pieceof shit comes in and ruins it
seriously it's so true, likehe's just, he's like killing it,
he's made it into the aiindustry.
Like he's like, he's like itlooks clearly like a head of a
manufacturing plant and yeah Ishould never have poked my
screwdriver into that kid I'vedone five seconds.
(58:06):
I've learned everything about it.
The us army being pasted on theside of that big ass tank in
new roman, like times new roman,made me laugh.
It was literally just like areally like weird basic font.
Oh, all lowercase as well.
Um, I understand that the guywas like I'm never taking you to
normada.
And then they needed to takethe kid to normada and it was
(58:27):
like, okay, we'll all go tonormada.
Oh, you can't do that.
Like why that's?
You don't have to take joshua,just take the kid.
Please don't take joshua.
That's the whole thing.
Zero injuries after being atthe center point of explosion.
Maya, she's laying on thattable.
She looks beautiful, stillbeautiful.
She was at the center point ofan explosion.
She would be, I mean, veryinjured.
(58:48):
She probably shouldn't haveeven been alive at all.
Um, and then also, not a singlechance that that small child
could possibly pull a grown manany amount of distance Right.
Zero chance.
And that's all my quick fires,that's all.
I've got.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Yeah, well, I'm coming at you with.
So if you really felt AIweren't people, you wouldn't
hate them so much.
Nomad is the dumbest basket toput all your eggs in.
This is fucking Avengersstupidity.
All on the Marvel thought I'msitting here waiting for the
(59:23):
double cross, double cross.
Um wow, you guys check off, gunthe shit out of them wearing
other people's faces.
Let's see here if we can makenomad immune to air defenses,
wouldn't it make more sense tomake theater ballistic missiles
with this capability Fireanywhere without the need for
Nomad, and cheaper.
Speaker 1 (59:42):
It's like you know where Nomad would be great On
the ground, In one place.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Right, I'm having difficulties understanding the
economic capabilities of NewAsia.
New Asia, it's like the writersasked Max Stone and trey parker
to name this and then I saidwas current asia mad at this
movie?
Have we just said fuck it?
To precision weaponry?
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
yeah, man, denzel washington's kid is also not
precision.
No one in this movie isprecision.
In fact, the AIs are even lessprecise than the people, and
it's just like it seems likeeverybody is, like we don't give
a shit about any kind ofprecision.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Nothing, nothing.
And then I said wait, theadvanced child surprises the man
when she exerts effort todisplay the same powers as a
television remote control.
And then I said ellen andmartha stewart's hybrid is a
weird choice for field agent.
Let's see, it feels like dustand debris.
(01:00:49):
Having unfettered access to theai's brain cylinder is a
strange design choice.
Uh, maybe less money on coprobots and more on
infrastructure.
Why are we so amazed?
This kid has all the powers ofan alexa and then looks like
nomad.
Finally ate the cgi budget.
And then my last note was doesamerica believe in valhalla now,
(01:01:13):
or is she just saying shit?
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I think america was taken over by those runic nazis
makes sense?
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
makes sense or a leftover?
Viking group finally sailedover it took over.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
The us was so concerned with the ai that we
stopped watching.
We let the ball drop we werethey were playing the long game
(01:01:55):
that would make.
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
That would make this movie 2,000% better.
Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
They just come up with a prequel about that.
Like the origin Started offjust raiding lighthouses in the
northeast.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I would release a statement that High and Dry was
wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
This is the greatest franchise of all time.
This is the greatest movie evermade.
When you said something aboutthe kid, who got the face, I was
like.
When he said all I need is thegreatest movie ever made, I did.
When you said something aboutthe kid I got the face.
I was like.
When he said all I need is aface, then all I could think is
about when fogel says in superbad, you don't have the training
or the steady hand to pull offa procedure like that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
So ha, oh my god dude , I'm just thinking about the,
the side film directed by ZackSnyder Zack Snyder's the creator
when it shows a fucking Vikingboat just floating and they're
creating children andgenerational just floating on
(01:02:54):
the coast of New York, waitingfor their moment, on the coast
of New York, waiting for theirmoment, and then, in 2224, the
moment arrives and the Vikingsinvade America.
My perfect chef's kiss.
I get it now.
I get it now.
(01:03:14):
This wasn't a dumb movie, itwas a genius movie.
Oh my God now.
This wasn't a dumb movie, itwas a genius movie.
Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Oh my god.
So one more time.
What?
What did high and dry get?
This final score was a two outof five.
But don't let that, don't.
Don't let it fool you.
Like we said, you watch ayoutube video about the visual
effects and that's it.
Yeah, don't you put it on.
It'll be a waste of two hoursand 15 minutes.
This is not a good bad movie,this is just a bad, bad movie
yeah, bad, bad movie.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I feel honestly, I feel almost guilty because
fucking prometheus and tombstonegot a three and I and that does
not do them justice, but nolike yeah I'm offended that the
creator got so close toTombstone and Prometheus, the
(01:04:05):
animation.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
people did their job.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
That just goes to show what a good you know the
background, how important theyare to movies.
In all honesty, it really doesa testament to that in all,
honesty.
Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Clap for the grips at the end.
If fucking keanu reeves was inthe creator, all the cgi people
would be getting new motorcycles.
So hey, everyone.
Uh, thank you so much forlistening.
The creator sucks, ken warunabe.
Shame on you for being a partof this, you fucking slut, but
(01:04:39):
we still love you.
Denzel, you deserve a punch inthe stomach.
Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Okay, at least and you'll thank us for it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yeah, and he's like nah, you right and for the
listeners at home.
I can't stand my kid either.
I can't stand him either.
And for the listeners at home.
Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I can't stand my kid either I can't stand him either.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
And for the listeners at home if you want to watch
the Creator, just check out2001's AI, artificial
Intelligence, jude Law, haley,joel, osment they're the true
heroes of this.
Thanks everyone for listening.
We're High and Dry Podcast Bye.
What's happening?
Fuck you Denzel.
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