September 8, 2025 • 63 mins
We dive into the Naked Gun reboot, a comedy that delivers jokes at breakneck speed while updating the franchise for modern audiences without losing its absurdist roots.
• Liam Neeson takes on the Leslie Nielsen role with mixed results, though the film still delivers constant laughs
• Pamela Anderson surprises with her comedic talents and willingness to poke fun at herself
• The film avoids problematic humor typical of early 2000s comedies while maintaining a high joke-per-second ratio
• Standout scenes include a jealous, murderous snowman yelling "Daddy!" and an owl with unexpected personality
• The movie literally names a "Plot Device" as its MacGuffin, acknowledging its focus on comedy over storytelling
• At 3.5/5 stars, it's a solid comedy that succeeds at what it sets out to do: make people laugh consistently
• The film subtly comments on social issues like police brutality and tech billionaires without becoming preachy
• Perfect for getting "blasted and just sitting there laughing" rather than analyzing deep narrative structure
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
no, I missed it, I was too early.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You don't get it listeners yeah, he just told
probably the funniest joke thatwe've had on this show, like
easily it just took a long timefor the recording to start.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Sorry, yeah, I don't tell stories twice unless
specifically requested well,there you have it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
All right, folks, thanks for joining.
This is high and dry podcast,the only podcast keeping alive
the fandom of hemlock grove,netflix original.
I'm your host with me as always.
James crossland, luke how youguys doing you remember that?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
yeah, it was netflix.
It was one of the Skarsgårdbrothers.
It was a vampire.
He was the weird little spindlycreepy one.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
He's gone on to do most of the Skarsgård heavy
lifting yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
He was in Barbarian.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
He was it.
He's getting ready to do the itshow.
He was the crow and Nosferatuand Nosferatu.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, Nosferatu.
Yeah yeah, we thought, wethought the other Skarsgård from
True Blood was going to really,you know, take over, but he was
in that Tarzan movie andeveryone was like, no, we're
done with this guy, we can't dothis anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, he came back in Northman.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Oh, did he.
Yeah, northman was his lastname in true blood.
Was it a story of his character?
From true blood, the exactstory of his character from true
blood it was like a viking epickind of deal.
Okay, it's pretty.
It is pretty sick and he wasgood in it.
I've never seen it.
No it was good it's just like ahyper, hyper violent, just
(01:48):
fucking yeah pretty much actionmovie, pretty much the whole
time.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
My favorite Skarsgård oh sorry, go ahead.
Oh well, no, please, did youhave a?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I was just gonna make a joke.
I was just gonna say myfavorite Skarsgård is Peter
Sarsgaard from.
He was the bad guy in Blade.
Is he one of them?
No, no, his last name is sarsguard.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It's real close, but he's my favorite, scars guard
okay, no, I'm tracking deaconfrost, if I remember correctly
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah he'skind of a cool vampire yeah, he
was a was a cool vampire, bestSkarsgård, anyway.
So I wasn't able to see that onemovie with the Viking guy from
True Blood because I was toobusy watching the actual movie
(02:32):
we're going to do today, nakedGun, the remake, that one
starring Liam Neeson, producedby Seth MacFarlane.
We're going to be talking aboutthat one and, for those of you
who've never heard the showbefore, we break it down to a
three-part method, all right.
So round one, we're going togive you the definitive score
out of five on this film.
We're going to let you know ifyou need to skip it or not, or
(02:53):
if you need to get in theatersimmediately.
Just take a guess.
And then we're going to go intopart two, where we get on a
golden path, and we're going toreally dive into the deeper
meanings behind this film, towhich there were several oh my
god, yeah, just mind blown.
I was asking questions well,hopefully they answer the sequel
(03:16):
.
And finally, we are going toinsert ourselves drugs or
alcohol into this film, and whatmakes us so special and unique
is that we're going to be doingit drunk and high.
So, fellas, uh, what are yousmoking this week?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
luke I.
I have a a new one calledwatermelon og, but I have a
feeling this is gonna die, so Istill have good old pineapple
express as a backup.
Watermelon and pineapple greatcombo.
I'm a big fruit, like citrus inmy um flower kind of guy, so
(03:53):
it's good yeah, I uh gentlemen,I have uh, I'm gonna call it
drebin poison instead of durbanpoison I don't know if you've
you've heard of durbin poisonright luke I feel like durbin
poison is a pretty popularstrain.
I think that's very funny, thatit's you've gotten another close
(04:13):
chain.
That's like so close.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'm looking for him now and I'll be joining you guys
with something new.
I haven't tried this one, uh,before I got devil's river
bourbon whiskey.
It's uh, 45 horsepower, 90proof small batch.
Apparently it's texas, I'msorry.
Yeah, I got it.
Yeah, we'll see how it goes, Iuh everything's picked it up for
(04:38):
30 bucks on sale.
So my hopes, my hopes are nothigh but you never know they're
dry.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
You never know we're high.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
All right, so let's load them up.
So this first shot, first toast, this one goes out to the film
this week.
This one goes out to the NakedGun Cheers.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
To Naked Gun, oh yeah .
Speaker 2 (04:59):
That tastes like a tobacco chewer spit.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Average Texas drink yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, it's the average Texas bourbon experience
.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know, guys, damn, our energy is super low for
this comedy.
You'd expect that.
You know, right in ourwheelhouse I thought we were
going to have so much moreenergy.
I just don't feel energetic.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I'm not going to lie to you.
I have had some busy freakingweeks.
I am, but I'm sure once I getthis second shot, second toast
in it's going to pick me rightback up.
The second one, second toast,second hit.
This one goes out to our newestlisteners.
These ones are coming at usfrom where?
(05:52):
Oh, there you are.
Okay, I'm aging, I'm aging.
Europe's always a what You'reitching, I'm edging.
I'm edging.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, these are ournewest listeners.
They come from us, from FortPierce, Florida.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Is that you, Luke?
No, I'm in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It might be someone I know when the fuck is Fort
Pierce.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Give us a distance, a radius Fort Pierce would be.
I'm 90% sure it's on the othercoast by Fort Myers, almost Okay
.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It looks like Weston Florida also hit us up.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Nice Thanks.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Florida.
Here's to you guys, cheers,yeah, I highly doubt that.
Oh boy.
I'm going to verify that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I didn't lie to you guys.
Yeah, better not fucking lie.
I lied.
Oh my god, how are we eversupposed to trust you again?
It's literally straight acrossfrom fort myers, so I just got
the wrong side of the stateridiculous, uh, so I understand
(07:04):
if you don't ever trust me again.
I do, I get it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I'm not enjoying this at all.
Oh my god.
So this last toast, this one,goes out to the many lies Luke
has told us and hopefully oneday we can trust him again.
Cheers, cheers, woo, cheers,woo All right, I'm feeling it,
(07:30):
mr Krabs.
Oh fucking hell.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
To the whole feeling.
It's now Mr Krabs, the NakedGun.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yes, Naked Gun no, it's not Naked Gun Directed by
Akiva.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Schaefer, famously a member of the Lonely Island yeah
, lonely Island crew.
I was looking and he did HotRod Pretty much anything he
loves.
Hot Rod's a banger, yeah, hot.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Rod is a banger.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's a really good one.
He did Grown Ups 2, neighbors,neighbors 2.
I wasn't a huge fan of thosebut I know they had a following
of some kind.
But yeah, he kind of is just, Ifeel like, known for, just kind
of like silly comedy.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh yeah, oh sure, yeah.
Well, I just always thoughtlike just uh being that guy, or
just andy sandberg in general,like, correct me if I'm wrong.
I was under the impression thatthose guys came literally from
nowhere and now all of a sudden,you know you're directing the
newest naked gun, like I'mpretty sure that it's like they
(08:30):
came from.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I'm on a boat, motherfucker, don't you?
Yeah, like that is and thenhe's directing the naked, which
is so I mean love it or hate it.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I we got a movie here with a huge past and it's a big
boots to fill.
So what would you guys think?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
James, did you want to start this one off?
Yeah, I'll go ahead and startthis one off, so let's.
I think it's really importantto talk about my personal
history with the Naked Gunfranchise.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You were a producer on the second one.
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
oh yeah, so I.
I took my college fund that was12 at the time put it straight
into naked gun.
It was the naked gun two.
It's like you got two and ahalf.
I'm the one who came up withthat.
Put the half after it.
So you're welcome, but now I Iwatched the naked gun movies
(09:29):
when I was younger and I had, uh, no desire to see them again,
and so I didn't.
And then this movie came outand I watched it, so that's my
history.
The franchise was.
I mean, I think this was afaithful adaptation of the
(09:51):
franchise, which is just likereally, really stupid jokes,
really stupid Dad jokes.
The whole movie, not even likeyeah sure, I guess dad's.
I mean, are we equating dadjoke with stupid joke?
Because I feel Dad joke is likejust taking, it's like taking
everything literal, like I feellike that's what it like taking
(10:11):
someone's words, using themliterally and being like, like,
just like, hi, mine, oh hi,hungry I'm Luke.
Like yeah they said I'm hungry.
That literally means that youare that how you who you are.
Yeah, means that you are that'show you who you are.
Yeah, I love the snowman.
Oh, yeah, I love the snowman,yeah the snowman was a standout
(10:32):
scene.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's what it was like.
No, man.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
As soon as I saw them build a snowman, I was like
they are going to the snowman isgoing to come to life.
I knew immediately.
But then, when they pulled outthe book of spirits, I was like
oh shit, this is awesome, oh Iremember like there they started
kissing.
I looked at my camera.
(10:54):
I was like they're gonna have athree-way she's and she goes,
she just like this so she's likeno I like the smoke, the snow
cone syrup I thought that was agood, that was a really great
touch.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I loved when one of the ones that stood out for me
was uh, how did your wife pass,and so she had an arm like a
cannon she could have made itinto leak, and then they leaned
into it?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
yeah, we'll never know if she made it to pros oh,
she was a saint.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Uh, no, not a saint uh, just not the browns oh god,
I enjoyed that when she had anarm like a cannon yeah, that was
also a really great joke.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, so is a dad joke subverting the language
that's being used.
Is that like a dad?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
joke yeah I consider that a dad I feel like that's
sort of what it evolved to be.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, I could agree with that I like language
subversion, so I guess I do, andthat was huge dad jokes.
I loved the jokes in this forthat reason, and they were just
giving it to a 45 seconds.
Every 45 seconds, give anotherone, dad, dad, yeah, like, and
honestly it was making me.
I was just chuckling the wholetime.
Did you enjoy the cold caseswhere they?
(12:06):
Or did you miss that where theycame out and it was like a
freezing room and then it waslike the fog of like chill
rolling out and it was coldcases it was really quick, they
didn't linger on it.
It was just like in thebackground.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I also.
I love the ongoing coffee gagas well.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I enjoy that.
I also enjoyed the OJ Simpsonthing there really fast.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I love the ongoing coffee gig as well.
I enjoy that.
I also enjoyed the OJ Simpsonthing there really fast, yeah,
where all kids are like thankingtheir father and then he's like
no.
And then also it's from BillCosby's private reserve.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, oh God.
Damn yeah, what was that, ohGod?
Yeah, what was that, oh god?
that was, that was I did enjoypamela anderson scatting, so
this is just gonna be like our.
I think this is.
We're just gonna go through arundown of our favorite jokes.
That's just all this section isgonna be, because that's what
this movie boils down to.
It is.
It's just what jokes did youenjoy in the movie?
(13:01):
As soon as she got up, I burstout.
That was the up, I burst out.
That was the one where I burstout laughing.
I loved you.
What's his face?
The guy who was playing theevil guy?
Oh, danny Hudson.
When he was just sitting there.
He's like, yeah, like he's justeating it up.
It's so fucking good Well.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I was really happy to see Danny Hudson do something
like this.
He's been like ever since 30days of night.
He has been evil behind thescenes, Bad guy.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, like a one note bad guy.
Yeah, and he played a parody ofthat in this Uh huh and I, so I
did enjoy seeing that.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I also enjoyed the um , the sort of uh, when Liam
Neeson was interrogating thelike the right hand man kevin
durand yeah, and uh, he'sattached to the hospital yeah,
and it's just all the pressureof him now being a fitness
influencer and yeah, and one ofyour cellmates, he gets out too,
(14:03):
but he's all about bodypositivity and now you're all
about intermittent fasting andno carbs he's eating
cheeseburgers while you'rehaving to be miserable that's
what does it in, so I I didenjoy it quite a bit, um sure.
Well, so well, I'm excited tohear your scores and what's your
(14:24):
reasonings on something likethis.
Like I don't think we have everdone a movie like this.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
We've never done a movie that's completely
irreverent, like it has noreverence for like film it's.
You know, it's parodying itself.
The film is just a way to getus from joke to joke.
It's parodying itself.
The film is just a way to getus from joke to joke.
It has no reverence forstorytelling or itself or
anything like that, or acting.
(14:51):
It doesn't have any reverencefor acting.
So it subverts everything onour list Except for Hold on.
Let me think about soundtrack.
One thing they did subvert whichI was disappointed about was I
wanted busta rhymes.
I wanted them to give bustarhymes a reason to say shit
(15:12):
really fast.
And then I wanted liam neesonto do it back like that's the
joke.
You, if you have busta rhymesin your movie, that's like
missing an opportunity to havelike OJ kill someone and and
then go on trial.
If you had him for a movieafter that shit happened, you'd
totally have that His characterdo that, uh, uh.
(15:34):
But yeah, I feel like sometimesthe jokes didn't land.
But that's the thing about jokevolume is you spray out as many
as you can and then peopleusually forget the one, as long
as it's not like offending themas a person or their
sensibilities.
They just forget the bad andthen only the good remains.
But let me see for scores.
(15:55):
Acting I'd give acting.
I thought pamela anderson did areally good job I did.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I thought she was and I was happy to see her.
I enjoy like especially, I feellike she in particular.
She comes from and you know hercareer.
Obviously she comes from a timewhen, um, I mean actresses were
discarded after a certain pointand I thought it was really
great to see her come back andstill be lovely and funny and I
(16:24):
was really happy with that, forsure.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
If you like that and you like the idea of a woman
being discarded because of herage.
She did a movie called Showgirl.
I do not like that concept.
Oh, no, no, I mean, do you likea movie based on that that
tackles that concept?
Yes, yes, uh, she did a moviecalled showgirl.
It's on hulu right now and it'sabout her aging out of being a
(16:46):
showgirl in vegas and like theperceptions of the world
changing around beauty and uh,and about her own place in it
and it's.
She did an excellent job inthat too.
She's really she.
She's her, her stuff.
When she was younger she wasn'tgreat, but she's like, become a
really, I think, a very goodactress I do too oh yeah I agree
and she also did stripperella,that cartoon on uh spike tv.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Everybody remember stripperella well, we, we did a,
we did a stripperella one timewith the forgotten tv thing we
do in the beginning oh did we,oh shit, okay, well, yeah,
stripperella also.
She did a good job making funof herself for that yeah, yeah
no and I thought she waslegitimately funny in this one
and, uh, I was.
I enjoyed her, I did.
(17:31):
I was happy with both of theirability to not take themselves
seriously, both, both of them.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yes, yeah, and Paul Walter Hauser was there giving
strong support as one of thestraight men.
You know it's interesting thathe played a straight man.
He's usually like really wacky,yeah, but he was the straight
man this time.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
He was the mole person.
He was mole man in Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Four.
Yeah, in Fantastic Four we justsaw him.
He's having a moment.
The man is having a moment.
He's in like four movies thisyear.
Um, yeah, I'm enjoying him.
Yeah, I'm enjoying him too.
He does an understated weirdguy a lot of the time, and this
time he was just a.
He always expected somethingweird to come from him and it
didn't he just it was just awall, it was great.
(18:19):
And his reaction on the uh clawscene game where they had the
claw machine for the car thatwas, that was the car crash and
then it drops it.
Oh, that was another standoutfor me.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, that was another standout one of my
favorite parts from that waswhen he's like I've seen enough,
it's a suicide.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
For acting.
I think I'm going to give thisa 3.5.
It was nothing amazing.
Honestly, I didn't think LiamNeeson did that great of a job.
I thought he was flat a lot ofthe time in a way that wasn't
sarcastic enough about hisflatness.
It seemed like he was trying insome places and not doing well
(19:05):
enough for me.
Uh, so 3.5 cgi was terrible.
There was one scene that theydid that I would have been cool
with it if they did the wholemovie this way, but they like
sped up the camera to do like anold film joke with the frames
increased to make it look likethings were moving faster, where
he punched the person in thebank and he went sliding and
then the other people fell overlike bowling pins yeah if they
(19:28):
had done that in all the movies.
That was a.
That didn't get me and I feltlike a lot of the movie didn't
get me and I felt like a lot ofthe movie didn't get me.
The owl scene didn't get me.
I enjoyed the owl as well.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
The snowman the owl, anything anthropomorphic, I am
in Like let's do that.
That was for me.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I just was dying because he just kept saying
daddy, I was like daddy, what dowe do?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, saying daddy.
I was like daddy, what do we do?
Yeah, well, but then I was likeat the same time, like look, I
went into this one and I evensaid it to, uh, my girlfriend.
We were in line and I'm like Idon't have high hopes but I
spent the whole time freaking,laughing.
So, like you know, it did do,and even us sitting here talking
about it, we're like it's just.
Yeah, that made me laugh, thatmade me laugh, that made me
laugh.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
So, you know, like yeah, but I have to judge the
cinematography of it yes, yes uh, one thing I can say about the
cinematography, that is it.
It did a lot of storytellingwith the camera, which is
something that we say we shouldalways do.
It did interesting things withthe camera, which is something
that we say we should always do.
It did interesting things withthe camera Too many to name, you
(20:45):
know, because it was just fromone thing to another.
It was like he threw a bunch ofthings like here are all the
things we think are funny orcool or would be interesting.
Here's everything we know.
And they put it in a blenderand poured it out and it was a
movie.
Um, so it's hard to tellcinematography.
A soundtrack.
(21:06):
I can you do?
You guys know anything aboutthe soundtrack?
I don't remember anything.
I'm sure there were sound jokes.
Were there any?
That's usually how we are well.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So there were a few and they did pull.
So actually, after I got out oftheaters I went back and I
watched the original Naked Gunand I will say the original
Leslie Nielsen far superior asfar as the acting for the comedy
, obviously, but the movieitself made me laugh less than
this new one.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, it's just out of touch.
It's references.
We didn't get it references atime before the internet, which
we fucking was wild.
Can you think about what it waslike before the internet and
how much you knew and how muchmedia you consumed?
Now?
Literally, we consume like ahundred times more media than we
did back then and there's justlike I can.
(21:54):
I can hardly remember a timebefore the internet.
My brain is so fucking crammedfull of this shit.
I'm serious.
Soundtrack three Story.
I don't know how am I supposedto do this?
Why'd you make me go first?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I generally compare to the epic of Gilgameshh and I
feel that that helps me reallyrate these things, or just, you
know, uh, I feel like it's onpar with, um, godfather 2 um,
I've never seen godfather 2 umwell, this makes it hard how
does it?
How does?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
it compare to march of the penguins oh, let's, let's
not go so far.
Come on now, Okay so story twothere was nothing there.
There was nothing there.
Story.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Well, and I think they said that right away, when
you see the device and it'sliterally called plot device.
Hey guys, there's no story here.
Just get ready for scene toscene.
Eventually there's going to bea snowman and we think you enjoy
that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Does story encompass just writing?
Cause, if, just if we're justtalking about writing, but if
we're talking about narrative,there was, there wasn't one.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Look, I feel, I look.
Look, this is a podcast.
It's heard around the worldwith dozens of fans and I feel
like they, just they believeyour judgment and this is new
territory for us.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
We don't generally do comedies, so taking a new place
, man like let's uh, I thinkopen this up the the amount of
things they were willing to do.
The scene where it looked likethey were fucking the dog, like
you could tell my theater was souncomfortable.
You tell my theater was souncomfortable.
Just sit there, same sameeveryone.
(23:56):
The theater was so quiet, thatwas wild.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I was not anticipating that at all.
That's how it got.
That's how it got to fuckingour rating.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That was the bluest scene in any naked gun film that
was even now just cracking itbecause you don't see that shit.
Uh, that's something you don'tsee, and the number of bounds
they pushed for jokes was prettygood, so I'd give this a Tell
our story.
(24:28):
Yeah, I'm going to incorporatewriting into it, just writing
the situations that you come upwith in your film, that the
writer has to do.
And then rewatchability I'mdefinitely gonna re-watch this
movie.
Uh, I'm gonna get really highand watch this movie very soon.
Uh, I'll probably go back tothe theater to see it again.
(24:49):
I'm gonna give this a four.
I don't think I'm gonnare-watch it forever.
I think maybe I'll watch it acouple times.
Did anyone else notice thatwhen the dude's face got slammed
on the bar, one of the facesthat came up was andy samberg?
Yeah, yeah, I did.
I want to see it.
I gotta see it again at least afew times, just for those things
(25:10):
, because I know I didn't catcheverything.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
So that's a four okay , hell yeah, solid, solid pretty
solid rating.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You go next.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You go next, ryan yeah, so for me, yes, uh.
So I mean I got a few pointsactually for the golden path,
just in terms of how I feel thatthis is rewatchable.
Just the way the comedy wasdone it was all freaking
wordplay.
No one was attacked in thismovie.
Yeah, it's not like ourgeneration.
Just the way the comedy wasdone it was all freaking
(25:40):
wordplay.
No one was attacked in thismovie.
Yeah, it's not like ourgeneration.
Especially, we talk about NotAnother Teen Movie and Scary
Movie.
But try and watch that shitagain and you're like, oh fuck,
and you just feel sick insideSharon and I went to a public
showing of Scary Movie after nothaving seen it in many years.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
We went to a.
Well, we should just forstarters.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, we should save it okay yeah, yeah, yeah, um,
because that that's what I feellike we're actually able to talk
about here golden pathways,okay.
So I would say, though, that,acting I I thought, uh, pamela
really brought it.
I uh, I enjoyed and and I havebecome a fan of his over time
kevin durant I think that he'sgood, I, I do, and every time I
(26:26):
see him, I'm always like youknow, like he always gets some b
roll somewhere, and I'vestarted to really enjoy him.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I like him a lot, um, I always recognize him from
wild hogs, which is just a weirdpull, but I don't know really.
That's where you recognize himfrom like that was probably the
first movie I had seen him in asa kid and then, like I know him
from the strain uh, the strainthe guillermo del toro
television show about vampiresthe.
(26:54):
It was like a war.
I know him from, from RealSteel too.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I've always enjoyed him.
Abigail was a terrible movieand he was in it and I'm still
trying to forgive him for that.
Him and I have.
You know we've been talking fora while and I'm going to get
there, just going to take sometime.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
He's also in another one of my favorite movies
Mystery Alaska, which I think isone of the best sports movies
you can watch okay, and I didlike liam neeson in this one.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I um, I was in the line for this film and I I had
dragged my uh girlfriend to thisone and uh, you know, she's
very, um, culturally sensitiveand all those things.
And she explained, explainedthat I guess Liam Neeson did
some racist crap a little bitago.
I wasn't aware of that and thenI explained to her that, well,
(27:45):
I was the one who reminded youthat Michael Fassbender did that
assault crap and that broke herheart and it's like, who do we
even like anymore, right?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
There should be a system, though that's the thing.
There should be a system toweed those people out.
We shouldn't have to make thatdecision.
As consumers, we should be ableto say governing body, don't
let them do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You can't just keep letting them do it to you some
time ago that we need to makethe allegation cyclopedia.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a simple app on your phonewhere you can just scan the
poster of any film or tv showyou're about to ingest and it
just gives a down the list oflike hey, he struck his
(28:29):
girlfriend.
Or hey, he, you know, asked toeat someone and you know those
sorts of yeah, so yeah, I'mstill a big proponent for the
allegation cyclopedia.
I feel that's something that weneed.
But anyway, acting, I'm gonnagive a four, I think.
Uh, everyone knew theassignment.
(28:50):
They came in and they, I thinkthey pulled it off, but did
anything stand out?
In particular the snowman, umhis acting like his angry face
was fantastic.
The angry face, yeah, when heswitched to being jealous and
angry, so good yeah so yeah,I'll give that a four.
(29:12):
Um cinematography, there weresome rough moments, but I feel
that was on purpose.
The parts where I was pulledout of it was when we were in
the high-tech expos and we werelooking at the tesla car and all
those sorts of things.
That's when all of a sudden itfelt like we were in an austin
powers film and, yeah, likethey're in the same genre, but
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they, they're very, verydifferent.
The cinematography did pull meout of it in those moments.
So I'm going to give that athree.
The Owl brought me back, butnot up to a four.
Soundtrack they reutilized theold soundtrack in a good way.
They didn't overutilize it.
(29:56):
Just having the old soundtrackto pull from, I I feel, gave
them an extra little boost.
So a 3.5.
If you're looking for thatnostalgia um story, I haven't
seen a story like this since, uh, titanic dances with wolves.
It's up there.
So I'm gonna start on this one,three, three and rewatchability
(30:24):
and this is something I do wantto discuss when we're on the
golden path is this is a comedyI could actually fucking watch
and there was no point where Iwas like fuck dude, and that was
great and it still made me,even with the dog, threesome um
they weren't actually fucking adog they weren't actually
fucking the dog.
(30:44):
Yeah, it was just amisunderstanding it was just a
misunderstanding these things.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
If I had a nickel, it won't let me around dogs
anymore.
My god, they don't even know Ihave remy, and so I like that.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
For the rewatch ability, I like that no one was
abused in the making of thiscomedy, and so for rewatch
ability, I know when it comesout I'm gonna buy it, I know I'm
gonna watch it again.
Um, I know, just whenever Iwant a relaxing like normally I
relax with, like the evil deadseries and you know things of
that nature.
(31:21):
So it's nice to add that to myrelaxed repertoire.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Just in the background.
Daddy daddy, daddy daddy.
What do we do, daddy?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And so is it.
Is it on the level of we'rewatching it every Christmas?
No, but rewatch ability, I'llgive it a four.
So is it on the level of we'rewatching it every Christmas?
No, maybe, but rewatchability,I'll give it a four.
I'm going to give it a four.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Good scores.
Good scores.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
All right, bring it home.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It's very interesting because you guys are.
So I thought Barry harsh on thestory, if I'm 100% honest, I'll
touch on that, but I think thatthe acting was device, yes, but
you'll hear me out, the.
So the acting I feel like wassolid.
I don't think that the way acomedy is set up is ever really
(32:09):
set up to deliver anybody togive a groundbreaking
performance in any way rightform.
So, um, but pamela anderson, Ithought, like you guys said, was
really good.
Liza Kashi, I think, is how yousay it.
She's like an old Vine star andI always found her very funny.
She was like the detective thattook over the bank robbery and
(32:31):
she was just like a sidecharacter.
No one took away from it for me.
So I gave the acting a four.
The cinematography is.
I think that, like he said,james, it was just used to.
Just, it was just because theyneeded a platform to like tell
these jokes on.
Yeah, I didn't think anythingwas innovative.
(32:51):
I, I really, but nothing likewas like, I'm not like, oh my
god, like um, so I, I did, I, Ijust don't think that you can uh
, give it any higher than reallylike a, a three, because you
know it's not revolutionary,it's just like, uh, a medium for
(33:12):
the content.
It wasn't innovative, it wascompetent, you know, and yes,
yeah, I think if you look at anolder movie of his, like hot rod
, where some scenes wereinnovative, you know at the time
he innovated on creating theblocking for these scenes that
made him like really excellent,whereas this one was just like
it was things that he'd learnedover his career that were done
(33:35):
confidently, yeah, yep, and butit was still good for the comedy
.
I think it wasn't like a badthing necessarily, so I gave it
right.
Uh, soundtrack I it was one ofthose that didn't really add but
didn't really take away.
However, pamela anderson's likescatting is a part of the
soundtrack, by the way, if youask me that is that adds.
(33:56):
It adds me, but I ended upgiving it a three because, uh,
it was one that I can't say thatin scenes I I really remember I
think that the jokes were kindof the solid point of the movie
and yeah what everything elsebecame a sidetrack for me.
But that's where I get to storywhere I think that they were
(34:17):
really just doing a play on allbad cop and bad detective, bad
spy movies and I feel like theycontinued, but that's like a
theme and it was a vision thathe wanted to tell.
That's all he wanted to tell andit threw the movie forward.
So picture every bad moviewhere, like you know, it might
not be bad the whole way through, but something just throws it
forward and it's like they didthat the entire movie through.
(34:40):
And I feel like it was exactlywhat he wanted to do when he was
telling this story of just aridiculous cop, and he did it in
a very funny way, which is whatthe comedy is supposed to do.
It's supposed to be a funnymovie that just makes you laugh
and doesn't have to necessarilybe a great story.
And this, also, like himleaning into the bad cop movies,
(35:02):
just made it like he's allowedto do that.
Oh, so you're saying, in thisinstance, the fact that it was a
cohesive vision, for you bumpedthe story up because you said
it wasn't about story, and sothat to me makes it seem like
it's probably not as good, yeah,but not fantastic, but it's,
you know where you're comparingit to something like that has a
(35:23):
you know superman.
That's like telling a true storyand like it's.
I don't know compare it, but ifyou're just comparing it to
like a comedy, I think that itwas.
I think he had a cohesivevision and it bumped up.
I gave it a 4.5.
I laughed a lot and I reallythe vision really.
But I think it's the way I'mdefining story, yeah, and then
when you watch ability, I gaveit 3.5 because I'm definitely
(35:45):
going to watch it again For sure, probably a couple of times.
Like you said, just get blastedand just sit there and laugh,
yeah, chuckle stupidly toyourself Exactly, does that mean
we have the score?
And chuckle stupidly toyourself exactly, does that mean
we have a score and that givesus a total score of 3.5 out of 5
for the pretty good.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, fair, I think that's where it deserves to be I
do our method, our product islike.
Genre is irrelevant.
We're going to give you theproper score yeah like we're
better than fandango andabsolutely, and that was a 3.5
on the nose.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
We didn't.
That's no rounding it was.
I don't know who's gonna saythat this movie is their
favorite movie I don't thinkanybody is gonna say that this
is their favorite movie, butlike 70 of people are gonna be
like you know, a lot of thosejokes landed with me because
there were like so many jokesthe jokes per second were off
(36:46):
the fucking chart it wasimpressive, though you're
talking about the jks.
Yeah, yeah, uh, and I wasclocking that as well but you
know, I think the story reallytook it down and I think it's
because you look at otherstories that akiva schaefer's
been involved in.
Like we said, hot rod, pop star, like those movies have and pop
(37:10):
star.
Yeah, those movies havecharacter progression and a
story delineation and they alsohave really high jokes per
second and I feel like they weremore cohesive than this one.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I thought this one was really just a a wild shot,
like a shotgun blast, of tryingto just do anything I feel like
what they were trying to do wasbe like I said, I got out of the
theaters and the first thing Idid was put on the original
naked gun.
And it's the same fucking movie.
Like it's the same.
You match the style.
Yes, it's the same.
(37:44):
Uh, jk jps, without a doubt.
Yeah, even just like there'sbackground jokes going on time.
So I think that's what they'retrying to do.
They're like this is this isnaked gun.
Yeah and well, so I I thinkit's time for us to get on the
golden path, and I think we'reall skeptical, but I feel like
we do have some things to talkabout here yeah, so, and I would
(38:06):
like for you to start it offgood sir.
Yeah, right, well, you lead usbefore we, uh, get into that,
it's time for our final toast,our final shot, our final hit.
This one, I mean, goes to asolid score in my opinion.
So this one goes out to acomedy film that was competently
made, well done and, honestly,for me, our show likes to
(38:30):
concentrate on rather negativefilms, and so just having an
R-rated comedy genre film intheaters before we do Weapons
next week.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Naked Gun was PG-13.
No, it was R?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I thought it was R dude, that dog scene dude, how
positive are you?
I feel pretty positive, I feellike it was Click a button when
I bought the tickets.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Maybe I was looking at a different movie.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
This is a big moment.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
PG-13.
Oh, this says PG-13.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
What the fuck Mine was.
There's no way that dog scenewas fucking PG-13.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
They weren't actually fucking the dog though.
I know that, but theimplication Google Reviews has
Naked Gun at a 3.5 right now.
Google Reviews knows what'sgoing on rotten tomatoes has it
on a 91, holy shit well, againrotten tomatoes fumbles the wall
(39:29):
, uh rotten tomatoes has no ideawhat they're fucking doing so
it's funny because googlereviews has like a ton of five
star and a ton of one star andjust smatterings in the middle
which I, whose favorite movie isthis.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
You're going to love or hate it.
Really, I don't think so.
If you give this movie a one,get the fucking dildo out of
here.
Just chill out, man.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
If you give this movie a five, slap yourself with
that dildo.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Wake yourself up, see a better movie.
See more movies, yeah no, lookthat whole positive, negative.
It's either the best thing I'veever seen or the worst thing
I've ever seen.
That shit ended in the 2010smillennials.
It's time to move on.
So, all right, here's to here'sjust to a decent comedy Finally
fucking showing up in theatersReally decent comedy.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Cheers.
That's two decent comedies thisyear.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
And I also like that it's on the second half of like
Superman coming out.
I mean, granted, these are allsigns that we're headed like
fucking we're sprinting towardsa recession Right headed like
fucking, we're sprinting towardsa recession, right.
But I, I love that we have somelike positive content to
finally start filling my fuckingeye holes with.
So did you watch friendship?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
did you guys watch friendship?
Yeah, yeah, I was friends.
That was.
Friendship was really hilarious.
Sorry, I've been thinking a lotabout your busty daughter and
how everybody's looking at her.
I think that was a joke.
I like the code.
Oh my God.
Oh, that was a big lick, dude.
What do you mean?
(41:07):
It's a big lick.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
All right, fellas, it's time to jump onto the
golden path.
All right, we've had enoughspice.
It's time to dive into thedeeper meanings of naked gun, so
I'll kick it off.
So there's two things that Iliked about it.
One that you know we're.
We're in a society, in a worldright now, where we don't have
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any comedy and the only thingswe had to fall back on were
always those like those collegefucking things from the early
2000s and just all thesenostalgic things where, if you
watch it again, it's trash a lotof really gross comedies that
came out when we were coming ofage.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Like american pie you go back at.
Like the idea of filmingsomeone while they're changing
now would be like total.
It offends the sensibilitiesyou're like you.
You cannot do something likethat to someone without consent.
But like apple pie was one of.
We were like getting aresurgence of a generation from
like the people, like animalyeah yeah, we're.
(42:13):
We're like did not respectconsent and we got it right when
we were like 13.
And it really poisoned ourminds.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, and I guarantee that it was introduced to you
by some jackass father orstepfather or uncle, right, and
like you need to see this, likethis is going to, yeah, and it
was just trash.
And so you know, at the end ofthe new Naked Gun they did the
whole jazz bit where the camerais following the top of the
(42:41):
police cruiser just throughweird places.
Watch the original Naked Gun.
It goes through a women'slocker room, right.
Well, yeah, and I'm like, well,fuck, but this new one has
(43:03):
sensible boundaries, aboutconsent, about all those things
and so for that.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Um, as far as, yeah, it's amazing that they didn't
tell a racist joke.
As far, as I remember the onlyone they said they said, they
said uh, they said the hard arefor the special needs.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
They did but it was the bad guy who did it.
It was, it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I'm just, I'm just saying like that, like that was
the only line.
And then they also, I feel like, did do a little bit of like
kind of misogynistic gaze, alittle bit on pamela anderson,
especially in this scene whereit's like all the cops are just
like sitting there, like havinglike dirty thoughts, but very
minor again, didn't take awaywhere I wasn't like oh my god,
terrible it was and it was.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
It was an homage to yeah, it was an homage to the
joke of the original naked gun,which was an homage to noir.
La, uh, cop things where youhave that inner dialogue, and
she was all legs all the way upto her neck yeah, and it's like
all having it and going throughthe same exact.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, lucky fobos they played on that a couple
times and the joke was thateveryone was objectifying her
right.
That was the joke, exactly.
Yeah, like pointing out the badbehavior, and even liam neeson,
hey guys yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
And then I also appreciated, uh, the bit they
did, where he is talking to thebartender and uh, the bartender
goes you shot my father and he'slike I've shot thousands of
people.
When he says he was runningaway, all right, 500 people, he
was white.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Oh, you're, kevin, whatever's kid brother I think,
and he's like, how's he doing?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
not great.
And that was.
That was a solid joke.
It was making fun of an actualproblem, an actual situation,
society.
It was not punching up, it waspunching sorry, it was not
punching down, it was punchingup at this fucking boot that we
(45:00):
keep voting to put on ourfucking necks.
And so I appreciate that, likeI, I can't watch the old
comedies anymore, and so it's weneed to replenish our stock of
fucking comedy, and I feel thatthis new naked gun started yeah
hopefully, this is stillphenomenal.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
I still watch it and I still enjoy stepbrothers.
It's stupid, but I haven't seenin a long time it's so stupid.
That one never really hit withme, but I should probably try it
again if it holds up.
That's important.
But I did enjoy it a lot as akid, like in my teens early
pre-teens maybe and it was justso maybe I have a lot of
(45:43):
nostalgia held with it as well.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
I still quote it don't try to watch like old
school.
Well yeah, old school was uhfreaking colin farrell doing
those same fucking films that,uh, you know like, hey, here's
porky's again, will farrell, hesaid I was like colin farrell,
(46:08):
totally watch that movie.
Do you see that he just got putin?
Speaker 1 (46:12):
a romantic thing with margot robbie yeah, out of
nowhere, he's gonna do aromantic thing with margot
robbie yeah, no, yeah, out ofnowhere.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
He's gonna do a romantic thing with margot
robbie and I'm very interestedat the pairing, especially
because the last time we sawcolin farrell was as the penguin
, so maybe we'll do that on thisshow.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
We'll see what happens but uh, he was in
banshee's the intro and youshould check out that one.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
That's a laugh specifically not to see that one
.
You said that that one wouldput me in a depression.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Oh yeah, that's, but you, your life has progressed in
a positive direction since then.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I'm capable of digesting that content,
metabolizing it yeah, yeah yeah,jesus Christ, did you guys have
any thoughts that you wanted totoss down on the golden path?
Before we move on to our partthree?
Christ, did you guys have anythoughts that you wanted to toss
down on the golden path beforewe move on to our part three?
Speaker 1 (46:59):
I do think that this movie does a good job of just
kind of making fun ofstereotypes and being very
obvious with it.
I don't know if that can evenbe considered a golden path.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I also appreciate the bad guy's, elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, oh yeah.
I feel like you're beingstraightforward with just some
of their points.
It was very clearly acorporation.
And there's the bad guy,literal Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
But that's become a genre of villain.
Now is Elon Musk.
Well, I mean he was already avillain before that.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, he's a terrible human being and the hyper-rich
have always sucked, which isjust the facts of life,
unfortunately.
But tech get a weird followingso I actually have.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
A friend of mine is an ex um muskian he he was
totally.
When I first met this dude backin, uh, he was totally
convinced that elon musk wasgoing to bring us to a
technological utopia.
And he had an excuse.
He did Every weird fucking thingthat Elon was saying back in
(48:07):
those days.
And I'm already on the side ofyou know, eventually he's going
to attach himself to anauthoritarian and working way
into office and it's going to belike fuck, you want a cyberpunk
dystopia.
Elon Musk is how you get there.
And then in the previouselection even he's like I was
wrong, I was wrong, you wereright, I, I fucked up.
(48:27):
Yeah, I know you did, I knowyou did, I knew you did back
then, but I I love like lexluther in the new superman was
just a fucking Elon Musktemplate.
Yeah, like a more capable ElonMusk, willing to fucking roll up
his sleeves and get down to.
And I feel maybe we should havetouched on this in the Golden
(48:48):
Path.
I feel that Lex Luthor providedus an image an inappropriate
image of the rich that he waswilling to roll up his sleeves
and get down to work.
He didn't get out there andfight Superman.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
He stood behind a desk and ordered some poor clone
to do it.
Poor dumb clone who has no cluewhat he's doing.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
I feel like he put more work in than any
billionaire I've ever fuckingheard of, and I feel that that
sets a poor precedence for us.
There was a lot of work ethicin that little tower.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Sure, and I don't feel like I don't very
industrious bad guy.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, I don't feel we should be associating that with
that archetype, because youknow some of the tech bros and
joe rogan podcasters couldreally, you know, see that as a
positive.
But that's just me with lexluther.
Yeah, god damn it, god damn itgod damn it, we're in the worst
(49:42):
timeline.
You're all wrong, uh, butanyway, you're just wrong, but
anyway.
So I feel like we're ready tomove into the third portion of
this thing.
Um, you know, with 10 minuteson the clock, I think it's time
to insert ourselves drugs and oralcohol into this film.
(50:02):
So, fellas luke, you're the onewho hasn't started one of the
portion yet.
If you were in this film, howwould it change?
How would you be?
Speaker 1 (50:13):
um, I would like to be.
Hmm, I think I'd like to be thehenchman, um of the I want to
be yeah, I want to be yeah yeah,yeah, I want to be the henchman
.
I want to play that role.
I don't want to.
I don't want to be do muchworse, like different than kevin
(50:33):
durant did.
Right, he did a phenomenal job,so I want to take away from his
performance.
But I just think, being justkind of a dumbass who's just
going through it, just like yes,sir, like, just like like
following orders.
Basically, yeah, this is amindless movie and I want to be
a mindless character in it andjust kind of like watching
everything unfold from thebackground and I also probably
(50:56):
be telling people the secrets.
I'm like, hey, this guy isfucking evil as shit.
Uh, this is his plan, this ishis stall.
They'd have a full confessionfrom me, um, and I'd be in
witness protection by the end ofthe movie I would sing like a
canary, yeah and that's how Iwant to be in the naked gun
(51:18):
helping liam neeson and benwayne anderson bring justice.
All right, james.
I mean you'd be against them.
Part of it, part of it.
Well, that's all part of myplan, though you're definitely
going to jail.
That's fine, because you get tocome out and be an influencer,
(51:44):
but your cellmate comes out andhe's all body positive.
So that's what you change, isthat you just be body positive
and then everything will be okay.
Fantastic movie.
So let's see, I would, if I wasintroduced into this movie, I
would.
I found it really interestingthat this movie didn't have any
drunk or high jokes in it.
It didn't have any Right.
(52:05):
This is not a stoner film.
Really weird for the crew thatgave us Hot Rod and Popstar.
You know those for sure.
The original ones didn't either.
Oh, they didn't have any drunkjokes or anything.
Because no, it's no, it'sreally interesting because
fucking david zucker didairplane and that movie for sure
has drunk and high jokes in it,like that that was a stoner
(52:29):
film.
That was like on the og listairplane is a movie that is
problematic, but I would watchagain.
That's what I'd do.
Okay, I'd show up, I'd be inthis movie as the captain from
airplane, and then I, then Iwould bring I would bring
drinking and drugs into themovie and it would in that
(52:52):
middle part where it was kind oflulling between, like the uh,
between the scene where healmost shit himself and the and
the snowman scene, I'd be inthere and instead of the tech
shit we would be uh, uh in aclub or something.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
It would keep everyone interested well, I feel
that this portion of thepodcast in particular is
difficult for us because we'regenerally inserting ourselves
into serious film, right, and itmakes it much easier.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
We tend to subvert it .
Right, we tend to subvert theseriousness of the film.
How do you subvert the comedyof the film?
You can't do it by beingserious.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
I think you can by being serious.
No, by being serious.
I think you can by beingserious, so no would be an
anthropomorphic object who triesto kill them on a threesome.
The snowman was a seriouscharacter who tried to murder
them.
He took all the fucking sprayout of his inhaler.
He was a serious kid but itmade it funny because he was a
fucking snowman so, so, youwould you just do, would you
(53:57):
just do it without?
being a snowman?
I would no, I'd be maybe like acoffee cup, or I would be
another.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Is that the same scene?
Speaker 2 (54:06):
I would be another anthropomorphic object who's
just like sitting like thisfucking show who also has a
three-way rhythm, maybe, maybeit's on the table.
I would just be in thebackground inserting our fucking
you know, our world views ontothis fucking thing.
I'd be like a high and dry shotglass that's come to life
(54:28):
somewhere and I'm just givingour fucking dark bullshit, like
we always do, about everythingin the background of it.
So I would be another snowman,I'd be another owl, I would be
one of those things, just withthe you know, the depressing,
pessimistic thing that ouraudience has come to know and
(54:48):
love.
Like we're in the darkesttimeline.
So you're gonna ruin this movie,but it's essentially what
you're telling me because I'm acoffee cup, yeah, and I, I would
just bring some levity to itall, as some.
But like, follow me, I can tellyou what actually happened to
(55:12):
the gorgons at the end.
You know, fucking uh.
Whatever that movie was withKirsten Dunst God, what was that
movie?
Small Soldiers oh my god.
I haven't thought about SmallSoldiers.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
They apparently found the island.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
There was some article about the yeah well, so
I'd just be this anthropomorphicthing in the background that
says, hey, I actually know whathappened to the Gorgons at the
end of Small Soldiers, yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
And then actually, know what happened to the
gorgons at the end of smallsorglers, um yeah, and then roll
credits and then standingovation.
Yeah, five stars, five stars.
This whole thing has made methink that this movie is like
immutably like a 3.5.
Yeah, yeah, you can't make anyfucking better or worse.
It's just what the fuck it isand it could never be changed
(56:08):
and really it doesn't, can't domuch like normally.
Our ads drastically change theentire film.
It's yeah, we literally can'tdo anything.
I guess we could make it racistor something and that would
make it bad yeah, you know, wecould make it better I wonder if
that is the curse of comedy andhorror I don't know.
(56:31):
There's good comedy, horrors.
There's a five.
There's five comedy and horrors.
Tucker and dale versus evil islike five, if we were ever to
cover that.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
When was the last time you saw it?
Speaker 1 (56:43):
These college kids are killing themselves.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
He just threw himself in the wood chipper.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
I like that movie.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
At some point we need to go back through the archives
and see what we've ratedhorrors and what we've rated all
, but we've only done a handfulof comedies Right, if I'm being
generous.
We need to go back and see whatour ratings are.
I'm very curious to see and weonly recently started
letterboxing.
By the way, folks at homefollow us on Letterboxd.
We'll give you the definitiveright there.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
Yeah.
Except for you know, james isreally bad at that kind of thing
.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
He did the first one.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, don't count on me.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Listen to the podcast for my exclusive but uh, luke,
and I are a little more you knowout there, but um, I I'm I'm
curious to see if, if auniversal template applies to
genre film.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
Oh, you're saying that comedy just can't rise to a
five.
I don't know Disagree.
I think Hot Rod is a reallygood movie.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
But it was brought down by the fucking Cool Bean
scene.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
There's just one scene.
The rest of the movie wasreally good.
The Cool Bean scene was bad.
It was my least.
The rest of the movie wasreally good.
The cool bean scene was bad.
It was my least favorite partof that movie and his, uh, uh,
the whole, uh, fucking camp back.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Uh, the kevin bacon movie, the dancing movie fucking
oh, the footloose.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
No, that was great.
The footloose scene was greatit was a little.
I'm going to my little placeand then the the face with this
baton, and then the hard cut tothe woods.
Come on.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
This is a little long I gave.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
Friendship a 4 out of 5.
I thought that was really good.
It had some really coolcinematic shots.
It was like it was cool.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Let's remember this.
So next week we're releasingour weapons episode.
Let's see if it can pull offmore than three points.
Uh, I mean, have we had ahorror that hasn't pulled?
Speaker 1 (58:47):
have we had a horror that hasn't wait.
Really, we haven't had a horrorthat that's been a high rated.
No, wow really well, that'sinteresting.
I guess not for out to wasn'treally horror, I was never
scared.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah, like you might as well.
It was just a romance stageproduction, yeah, yeah it was a
tragedy.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah, that's interesting.
I think maybe tour de pharmacytour de pharmacy was 40 centers
is supposed to be horror.
It wasn't, it was a, it was not, it was not musical, almost.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
Yeah, it's good yeah, it was a fantastic
dramatization.
Yeah, yeah, definitely, I, yeahbut have you seen?
Speaker 1 (59:31):
it's in horror genre.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
I guess it's more of an action, that's being yeah,
that's being so subjective, likethat's being less than guess,
it's more of an action.
That's being yeah, that's beingso subjective, like that's
being less than subjective.
It's just a generalization,because there's a monster in it
yeah, were you ever scaredduring the sinners?
Speaker 1 (59:47):
no, not for a second no, not for a second I don't
want to be scared in any movie Isee, though, so that's the
point of horror.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Well, it's horror, it was just supernatural.
Speaker 1 (59:57):
And so, therefore, it's categorized as horror.
Well, which?
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I disagree.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I think if we would have seen, we would have
reviewed, Bring Her Back.
That one had me just.
I was like cringing the entiretime.
I didn't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I'm actually getting ready to purchase that tonight.
I've been dying to see that.
I'm actually getting ready topurchase that tonight.
I've been dying to see it.
I keep seeing it pop up on myWeapons is just on edge, for me
Too scary.
I think this might be a reallyscary movie.
The commercials look fantastic,but I've seen good commercials
before and I've beendisappointed.
Little kids don't scare me.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I'm hoping for the best.
Let me know what you think ofBring Her Back, because that one
I thought was really good andbleak and really fucked me up
during a hard time and Irecommend it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Yeah, that's the point of horror.
That is the fucking point.
Well, I was watching a thingrecently that people who like
for me, people like me who watchhorror religiously and can just
sit there, you know,stone-faced, and enjoy it and
want to see how to push thegenre and everything like that
(01:01:10):
it's because it regulates someform of PTSD that I have.
I don't know how accurate thatis.
I feel that might just be somekind of TikTok trend.
Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
It's like sure, it's a coping mechanism, maybe, but
that doesn't mean it'stherapeutic in any way.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Yeah, so like all things I mean.
But at the same time I walkedinto Naked Gun saying that
there's no way this is going tobe a good film and then I left
going.
Okay, I laughed a lot, Ilaughed a lot, I laughed all the
time and again the snowmanscene, the jack frost thing was
hilarious.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
The best scene in my opinion yeah, and you know they
were going just when they findthe book of spells and
incantations.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
You're like oh, this is going right off the rails and
then just to have fucking liamneeson get on his knees with
pamela anderson and recite aspell that brings a jealous
snowman back to life incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
I love it.
Their first heads out thewindow.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
The first instinct was to fuck it, and that was
what I was like.
I was like I would fuck thatsnowman fuck that snowman
literally hell yeah all right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Well, hey, folks at home, thank you for listening.
You know, comedy is a weird onefor us.
Normally we poke holes in.
You know, the media we've beenconsuming but, as you know, we
are spiraling towards arecession, so the movies are
different now.
Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
This movie just had plenty of holes for us to get
into.
We didn't have to poke any init.
There's nothing we could do.
We just had to use all of itsholes that it already gave us.
Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Use them holes so hey , thanks for listening.
Let me host ryan baron northwith me.
As always.
James crossland, luke fellas.
It's a pleasure, as always.
Bye.
no, I missed it, I was too early.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You don't get it listeners yeah, he just told
probably the funniest joke thatwe've had on this show, like
easily it just took a long timefor the recording to start.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Sorry, yeah, I don't tell stories twice unless
specifically requested well,there you have it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
All right, folks, thanks for joining.
This is high and dry podcast,the only podcast keeping alive
the fandom of hemlock grove,netflix original.
I'm your host with me as always.
James crossland, luke how youguys doing you remember that?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
yeah, it was netflix.
It was one of the Skarsgårdbrothers.
It was a vampire.
He was the weird little spindlycreepy one.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
He's gone on to do most of the Skarsgård heavy
lifting yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
He was in Barbarian.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
He was it.
He's getting ready to do the itshow.
He was the crow and Nosferatuand Nosferatu.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, Nosferatu.
Yeah yeah, we thought, wethought the other Skarsgård from
True Blood was going to really,you know, take over, but he was
in that Tarzan movie andeveryone was like, no, we're
done with this guy, we can't dothis anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, he came back in Northman.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Oh, did he.
Yeah, northman was his lastname in true blood.
Was it a story of his character?
From true blood, the exactstory of his character from true
blood it was like a viking epickind of deal.
Okay, it's pretty.
It is pretty sick and he wasgood in it.
I've never seen it.
No it was good it's just like ahyper, hyper violent, just
(01:48):
fucking yeah pretty much actionmovie, pretty much the whole
time.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
My favorite Skarsgård oh sorry, go ahead.
Oh well, no, please, did youhave a?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I was just gonna make a joke.
I was just gonna say myfavorite Skarsgård is Peter
Sarsgaard from.
He was the bad guy in Blade.
Is he one of them?
No, no, his last name is sarsguard.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It's real close, but he's my favorite, scars guard
okay, no, I'm tracking deaconfrost, if I remember correctly
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah he'skind of a cool vampire yeah, he
was a was a cool vampire, bestSkarsgård, anyway.
So I wasn't able to see that onemovie with the Viking guy from
True Blood because I was toobusy watching the actual movie
(02:32):
we're going to do today, nakedGun, the remake, that one
starring Liam Neeson, producedby Seth MacFarlane.
We're going to be talking aboutthat one and, for those of you
who've never heard the showbefore, we break it down to a
three-part method, all right.
So round one, we're going togive you the definitive score
out of five on this film.
We're going to let you know ifyou need to skip it or not, or
(02:53):
if you need to get in theatersimmediately.
Just take a guess.
And then we're going to go intopart two, where we get on a
golden path, and we're going toreally dive into the deeper
meanings behind this film, towhich there were several oh my
god, yeah, just mind blown.
I was asking questions well,hopefully they answer the sequel
(03:16):
.
And finally, we are going toinsert ourselves drugs or
alcohol into this film, and whatmakes us so special and unique
is that we're going to be doingit drunk and high.
So, fellas, uh, what are yousmoking this week?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
luke I.
I have a a new one calledwatermelon og, but I have a
feeling this is gonna die, so Istill have good old pineapple
express as a backup.
Watermelon and pineapple greatcombo.
I'm a big fruit, like citrus inmy um flower kind of guy, so
(03:53):
it's good yeah, I uh gentlemen,I have uh, I'm gonna call it
drebin poison instead of durbanpoison I don't know if you've
you've heard of durbin poisonright luke I feel like durbin
poison is a pretty popularstrain.
I think that's very funny, thatit's you've gotten another close
(04:13):
chain.
That's like so close.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'm looking for him now and I'll be joining you guys
with something new.
I haven't tried this one, uh,before I got devil's river
bourbon whiskey.
It's uh, 45 horsepower, 90proof small batch.
Apparently it's texas, I'msorry.
Yeah, I got it.
Yeah, we'll see how it goes, Iuh everything's picked it up for
(04:38):
30 bucks on sale.
So my hopes, my hopes are nothigh but you never know they're
dry.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
You never know we're high.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
All right, so let's load them up.
So this first shot, first toast, this one goes out to the film
this week.
This one goes out to the NakedGun Cheers.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
To Naked Gun, oh yeah .
Speaker 2 (04:59):
That tastes like a tobacco chewer spit.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Average Texas drink yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, it's the average Texas bourbon experience
.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know, guys, damn, our energy is super low for
this comedy.
You'd expect that.
You know, right in ourwheelhouse I thought we were
going to have so much moreenergy.
I just don't feel energetic.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I'm not going to lie to you.
I have had some busy freakingweeks.
I am, but I'm sure once I getthis second shot, second toast
in it's going to pick me rightback up.
The second one, second toast,second hit.
This one goes out to our newestlisteners.
These ones are coming at usfrom where?
(05:52):
Oh, there you are.
Okay, I'm aging, I'm aging.
Europe's always a what You'reitching, I'm edging.
I'm edging.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, these are ournewest listeners.
They come from us, from FortPierce, Florida.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Is that you, Luke?
No, I'm in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It might be someone I know when the fuck is Fort
Pierce.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Give us a distance, a radius Fort Pierce would be.
I'm 90% sure it's on the othercoast by Fort Myers, almost Okay
.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It looks like Weston Florida also hit us up.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Nice Thanks.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Florida.
Here's to you guys, cheers,yeah, I highly doubt that.
Oh boy.
I'm going to verify that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I didn't lie to you guys.
Yeah, better not fucking lie.
I lied.
Oh my god, how are we eversupposed to trust you again?
It's literally straight acrossfrom fort myers, so I just got
the wrong side of the stateridiculous, uh, so I understand
(07:04):
if you don't ever trust me again.
I do, I get it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I'm not enjoying this at all.
Oh my god.
So this last toast, this one,goes out to the many lies Luke
has told us and hopefully oneday we can trust him again.
Cheers, cheers, woo, cheers,woo All right, I'm feeling it,
(07:30):
mr Krabs.
Oh fucking hell.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
To the whole feeling.
It's now Mr Krabs, the NakedGun.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yes, Naked Gun no, it's not Naked Gun Directed by
Akiva.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Schaefer, famously a member of the Lonely Island yeah
, lonely Island crew.
I was looking and he did HotRod Pretty much anything he
loves.
Hot Rod's a banger, yeah, hot.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Rod is a banger.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's a really good one.
He did Grown Ups 2, neighbors,neighbors 2.
I wasn't a huge fan of thosebut I know they had a following
of some kind.
But yeah, he kind of is just, Ifeel like, known for, just kind
of like silly comedy.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh yeah, oh sure, yeah.
Well, I just always thoughtlike just uh being that guy, or
just andy sandberg in general,like, correct me if I'm wrong.
I was under the impression thatthose guys came literally from
nowhere and now all of a sudden,you know you're directing the
newest naked gun, like I'mpretty sure that it's like they
(08:30):
came from.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I'm on a boat, motherfucker, don't you?
Yeah, like that is and thenhe's directing the naked, which
is so I mean love it or hate it.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I we got a movie here with a huge past and it's a big
boots to fill.
So what would you guys think?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
James, did you want to start this one off?
Yeah, I'll go ahead and startthis one off, so let's.
I think it's really importantto talk about my personal
history with the Naked Gunfranchise.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You were a producer on the second one.
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
oh yeah, so I.
I took my college fund that was12 at the time put it straight
into naked gun.
It was the naked gun two.
It's like you got two and ahalf.
I'm the one who came up withthat.
Put the half after it.
So you're welcome, but now I Iwatched the naked gun movies
(09:29):
when I was younger and I had, uh, no desire to see them again,
and so I didn't.
And then this movie came outand I watched it, so that's my
history.
The franchise was.
I mean, I think this was afaithful adaptation of the
(09:51):
franchise, which is just likereally, really stupid jokes,
really stupid Dad jokes.
The whole movie, not even likeyeah sure, I guess dad's.
I mean, are we equating dadjoke with stupid joke?
Because I feel Dad joke is likejust taking, it's like taking
everything literal, like I feellike that's what it like taking
(10:11):
someone's words, using themliterally and being like, like,
just like, hi, mine, oh hi,hungry I'm Luke.
Like yeah they said I'm hungry.
That literally means that youare that how you who you are.
Yeah, means that you are that'show you who you are.
Yeah, I love the snowman.
Oh, yeah, I love the snowman,yeah the snowman was a standout
(10:32):
scene.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's what it was like.
No, man.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
As soon as I saw them build a snowman, I was like
they are going to the snowman isgoing to come to life.
I knew immediately.
But then, when they pulled outthe book of spirits, I was like
oh shit, this is awesome, oh Iremember like there they started
kissing.
I looked at my camera.
(10:54):
I was like they're gonna have athree-way she's and she goes,
she just like this so she's likeno I like the smoke, the snow
cone syrup I thought that was agood, that was a really great
touch.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I loved when one of the ones that stood out for me
was uh, how did your wife pass,and so she had an arm like a
cannon she could have made itinto leak, and then they leaned
into it?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
yeah, we'll never know if she made it to pros oh,
she was a saint.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Uh, no, not a saint uh, just not the browns oh god,
I enjoyed that when she had anarm like a cannon yeah, that was
also a really great joke.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, so is a dad joke subverting the language
that's being used.
Is that like a dad?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
joke yeah I consider that a dad I feel like that's
sort of what it evolved to be.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, I could agree with that I like language
subversion, so I guess I do, andthat was huge dad jokes.
I loved the jokes in this forthat reason, and they were just
giving it to a 45 seconds.
Every 45 seconds, give anotherone, dad, dad, yeah, like, and
honestly it was making me.
I was just chuckling the wholetime.
Did you enjoy the cold caseswhere they?
(12:06):
Or did you miss that where theycame out and it was like a
freezing room and then it waslike the fog of like chill
rolling out and it was coldcases it was really quick, they
didn't linger on it.
It was just like in thebackground.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I also.
I love the ongoing coffee gagas well.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I enjoy that.
I also enjoyed the OJ Simpsonthing there really fast.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I love the ongoing coffee gig as well.
I enjoy that.
I also enjoyed the OJ Simpsonthing there really fast, yeah,
where all kids are like thankingtheir father and then he's like
no.
And then also it's from BillCosby's private reserve.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, oh God.
Damn yeah, what was that, ohGod?
Yeah, what was that, oh god?
that was, that was I did enjoypamela anderson scatting, so
this is just gonna be like our.
I think this is.
We're just gonna go through arundown of our favorite jokes.
That's just all this section isgonna be, because that's what
this movie boils down to.
It is.
It's just what jokes did youenjoy in the movie?
(13:01):
As soon as she got up, I burstout.
That was the up, I burst out.
That was the one where I burstout laughing.
I loved you.
What's his face?
The guy who was playing theevil guy?
Oh, danny Hudson.
When he was just sitting there.
He's like, yeah, like he's justeating it up.
It's so fucking good Well.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I was really happy to see Danny Hudson do something
like this.
He's been like ever since 30days of night.
He has been evil behind thescenes, Bad guy.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, like a one note bad guy.
Yeah, and he played a parody ofthat in this Uh huh and I, so I
did enjoy seeing that.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I also enjoyed the um , the sort of uh, when Liam
Neeson was interrogating thelike the right hand man kevin
durand yeah, and uh, he'sattached to the hospital yeah,
and it's just all the pressureof him now being a fitness
influencer and yeah, and one ofyour cellmates, he gets out too,
(14:03):
but he's all about bodypositivity and now you're all
about intermittent fasting andno carbs he's eating
cheeseburgers while you'rehaving to be miserable that's
what does it in, so I I didenjoy it quite a bit, um sure.
Well, so well, I'm excited tohear your scores and what's your
(14:24):
reasonings on something likethis.
Like I don't think we have everdone a movie like this.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
We've never done a movie that's completely
irreverent, like it has noreverence for like film it's.
You know, it's parodying itself.
The film is just a way to getus from joke to joke.
It's parodying itself.
The film is just a way to getus from joke to joke.
It has no reverence forstorytelling or itself or
anything like that, or acting.
(14:51):
It doesn't have any reverencefor acting.
So it subverts everything onour list Except for Hold on.
Let me think about soundtrack.
One thing they did subvert whichI was disappointed about was I
wanted busta rhymes.
I wanted them to give bustarhymes a reason to say shit
(15:12):
really fast.
And then I wanted liam neesonto do it back like that's the
joke.
You, if you have busta rhymesin your movie, that's like
missing an opportunity to havelike OJ kill someone and and
then go on trial.
If you had him for a movieafter that shit happened, you'd
totally have that His characterdo that, uh, uh.
(15:34):
But yeah, I feel like sometimesthe jokes didn't land.
But that's the thing about jokevolume is you spray out as many
as you can and then peopleusually forget the one, as long
as it's not like offending themas a person or their
sensibilities.
They just forget the bad andthen only the good remains.
But let me see for scores.
(15:55):
Acting I'd give acting.
I thought pamela anderson did areally good job I did.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I thought she was and I was happy to see her.
I enjoy like especially, I feellike she in particular.
She comes from and you know hercareer.
Obviously she comes from a timewhen, um, I mean actresses were
discarded after a certain pointand I thought it was really
great to see her come back andstill be lovely and funny and I
(16:24):
was really happy with that, forsure.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
If you like that and you like the idea of a woman
being discarded because of herage.
She did a movie called Showgirl.
I do not like that concept.
Oh, no, no, I mean, do you likea movie based on that that
tackles that concept?
Yes, yes, uh, she did a moviecalled showgirl.
It's on hulu right now and it'sabout her aging out of being a
(16:46):
showgirl in vegas and like theperceptions of the world
changing around beauty and uh,and about her own place in it
and it's.
She did an excellent job inthat too.
She's really she.
She's her, her stuff.
When she was younger she wasn'tgreat, but she's like, become a
really, I think, a very goodactress I do too oh yeah I agree
and she also did stripperella,that cartoon on uh spike tv.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Everybody remember stripperella well, we, we did a,
we did a stripperella one timewith the forgotten tv thing we
do in the beginning oh did we,oh shit, okay, well, yeah,
stripperella also.
She did a good job making funof herself for that yeah, yeah
no and I thought she waslegitimately funny in this one
and, uh, I was.
I enjoyed her, I did.
(17:31):
I was happy with both of theirability to not take themselves
seriously, both, both of them.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yes, yeah, and Paul Walter Hauser was there giving
strong support as one of thestraight men.
You know it's interesting thathe played a straight man.
He's usually like really wacky,yeah, but he was the straight
man this time.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
He was the mole person.
He was mole man in Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Four.
Yeah, in Fantastic Four we justsaw him.
He's having a moment.
The man is having a moment.
He's in like four movies thisyear.
Um, yeah, I'm enjoying him.
Yeah, I'm enjoying him too.
He does an understated weirdguy a lot of the time, and this
time he was just a.
He always expected somethingweird to come from him and it
didn't he just it was just awall, it was great.
(18:19):
And his reaction on the uh clawscene game where they had the
claw machine for the car thatwas, that was the car crash and
then it drops it.
Oh, that was another standoutfor me.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, that was another standout one of my
favorite parts from that waswhen he's like I've seen enough,
it's a suicide.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
For acting.
I think I'm going to give thisa 3.5.
It was nothing amazing.
Honestly, I didn't think LiamNeeson did that great of a job.
I thought he was flat a lot ofthe time in a way that wasn't
sarcastic enough about hisflatness.
It seemed like he was trying insome places and not doing well
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enough for me.
Uh, so 3.5 cgi was terrible.
There was one scene that theydid that I would have been cool
with it if they did the wholemovie this way, but they like
sped up the camera to do like anold film joke with the frames
increased to make it look likethings were moving faster, where
he punched the person in thebank and he went sliding and
then the other people fell overlike bowling pins yeah if they
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had done that in all the movies.
That was a.
That didn't get me and I feltlike a lot of the movie didn't
get me and I felt like a lot ofthe movie didn't get me.
The owl scene didn't get me.
I enjoyed the owl as well.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
The snowman the owl, anything anthropomorphic, I am
in Like let's do that.
That was for me.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I just was dying because he just kept saying
daddy, I was like daddy, what dowe do?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, saying daddy.
I was like daddy, what do we do?
Yeah, well, but then I was likeat the same time, like look, I
went into this one and I evensaid it to, uh, my girlfriend.
We were in line and I'm like Idon't have high hopes but I
spent the whole time freaking,laughing.
So, like you know, it did do,and even us sitting here talking
about it, we're like it's just.
Yeah, that made me laugh, thatmade me laugh, that made me
laugh.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
So, you know, like yeah, but I have to judge the
cinematography of it yes, yes uh, one thing I can say about the
cinematography, that is it.
It did a lot of storytellingwith the camera, which is
something that we say we shouldalways do.
It did interesting things withthe camera, which is something
that we say we should always do.
It did interesting things withthe camera Too many to name, you
(20:45):
know, because it was just fromone thing to another.
It was like he threw a bunch ofthings like here are all the
things we think are funny orcool or would be interesting.
Here's everything we know.
And they put it in a blenderand poured it out and it was a
movie.
Um, so it's hard to tellcinematography.
A soundtrack.
(21:06):
I can you do?
You guys know anything aboutthe soundtrack?
I don't remember anything.
I'm sure there were sound jokes.
Were there any?
That's usually how we are well.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So there were a few and they did pull.
So actually, after I got out oftheaters I went back and I
watched the original Naked Gunand I will say the original
Leslie Nielsen far superior asfar as the acting for the comedy
, obviously, but the movieitself made me laugh less than
this new one.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, it's just out of touch.
It's references.
We didn't get it references atime before the internet, which
we fucking was wild.
Can you think about what it waslike before the internet and
how much you knew and how muchmedia you consumed?
Now?
Literally, we consume like ahundred times more media than we
did back then and there's justlike I can.
(21:54):
I can hardly remember a timebefore the internet.
My brain is so fucking crammedfull of this shit.
I'm serious.
Soundtrack three Story.
I don't know how am I supposedto do this?
Why'd you make me go first?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I generally compare to the epic of Gilgameshh and I
feel that that helps me reallyrate these things, or just, you
know, uh, I feel like it's onpar with, um, godfather 2 um,
I've never seen godfather 2 umwell, this makes it hard how
does it?
How does?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
it compare to march of the penguins oh, let's, let's
not go so far.
Come on now, Okay so story twothere was nothing there.
There was nothing there.
Story.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Well, and I think they said that right away, when
you see the device and it'sliterally called plot device.
Hey guys, there's no story here.
Just get ready for scene toscene.
Eventually there's going to bea snowman and we think you enjoy
that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Does story encompass just writing?
Cause, if, just if we're justtalking about writing, but if
we're talking about narrative,there was, there wasn't one.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Look, I feel, I look.
Look, this is a podcast.
It's heard around the worldwith dozens of fans and I feel
like they, just they believeyour judgment and this is new
territory for us.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
We don't generally do comedies, so taking a new place
, man like let's uh, I thinkopen this up the the amount of
things they were willing to do.
The scene where it looked likethey were fucking the dog, like
you could tell my theater was souncomfortable.
You tell my theater was souncomfortable.
Just sit there, same sameeveryone.
(23:56):
The theater was so quiet, thatwas wild.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I was not anticipating that at all.
That's how it got.
That's how it got to fuckingour rating.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That was the bluest scene in any naked gun film that
was even now just cracking itbecause you don't see that shit.
Uh, that's something you don'tsee, and the number of bounds
they pushed for jokes was prettygood, so I'd give this a Tell
our story.
(24:28):
Yeah, I'm going to incorporatewriting into it, just writing
the situations that you come upwith in your film, that the
writer has to do.
And then rewatchability I'mdefinitely gonna re-watch this
movie.
Uh, I'm gonna get really highand watch this movie very soon.
Uh, I'll probably go back tothe theater to see it again.
(24:49):
I'm gonna give this a four.
I don't think I'm gonnare-watch it forever.
I think maybe I'll watch it acouple times.
Did anyone else notice thatwhen the dude's face got slammed
on the bar, one of the facesthat came up was andy samberg?
Yeah, yeah, I did.
I want to see it.
I gotta see it again at least afew times, just for those things
(25:10):
, because I know I didn't catcheverything.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
So that's a four okay , hell yeah, solid, solid pretty
solid rating.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You go next.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You go next, ryan yeah, so for me, yes, uh.
So I mean I got a few pointsactually for the golden path,
just in terms of how I feel thatthis is rewatchable.
Just the way the comedy wasdone it was all freaking
wordplay.
No one was attacked in thismovie.
Yeah, it's not like ourgeneration.
Just the way the comedy wasdone it was all freaking
(25:40):
wordplay.
No one was attacked in thismovie.
Yeah, it's not like ourgeneration.
Especially, we talk about NotAnother Teen Movie and Scary
Movie.
But try and watch that shitagain and you're like, oh fuck,
and you just feel sick insideSharon and I went to a public
showing of Scary Movie after nothaving seen it in many years.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
We went to a.
Well, we should just forstarters.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, we should save it okay yeah, yeah, yeah, um,
because that that's what I feellike we're actually able to talk
about here golden pathways,okay.
So I would say, though, that,acting I I thought, uh, pamela
really brought it.
I uh, I enjoyed and and I havebecome a fan of his over time
kevin durant I think that he'sgood, I, I do, and every time I
(26:26):
see him, I'm always like youknow, like he always gets some b
roll somewhere, and I'vestarted to really enjoy him.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I like him a lot, um, I always recognize him from
wild hogs, which is just a weirdpull, but I don't know really.
That's where you recognize himfrom like that was probably the
first movie I had seen him in asa kid and then, like I know him
from the strain uh, the strainthe guillermo del toro
television show about vampiresthe.
(26:54):
It was like a war.
I know him from, from RealSteel too.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I've always enjoyed him.
Abigail was a terrible movieand he was in it and I'm still
trying to forgive him for that.
Him and I have.
You know we've been talking fora while and I'm going to get
there, just going to take sometime.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
He's also in another one of my favorite movies
Mystery Alaska, which I think isone of the best sports movies
you can watch okay, and I didlike liam neeson in this one.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I um, I was in the line for this film and I I had
dragged my uh girlfriend to thisone and uh, you know, she's
very, um, culturally sensitiveand all those things.
And she explained, explainedthat I guess Liam Neeson did
some racist crap a little bitago.
I wasn't aware of that and thenI explained to her that, well,
(27:45):
I was the one who reminded youthat Michael Fassbender did that
assault crap and that broke herheart and it's like, who do we
even like anymore, right?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
There should be a system, though that's the thing.
There should be a system toweed those people out.
We shouldn't have to make thatdecision.
As consumers, we should be ableto say governing body, don't
let them do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You can't just keep letting them do it to you some
time ago that we need to makethe allegation cyclopedia.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a simple app on your phonewhere you can just scan the
poster of any film or tv showyou're about to ingest and it
just gives a down the list oflike hey, he struck his
(28:29):
girlfriend.
Or hey, he, you know, asked toeat someone and you know those
sorts of yeah, so yeah, I'mstill a big proponent for the
allegation cyclopedia.
I feel that's something that weneed.
But anyway, acting, I'm gonnagive a four, I think.
Uh, everyone knew theassignment.
(28:50):
They came in and they, I thinkthey pulled it off, but did
anything stand out?
In particular the snowman, umhis acting like his angry face
was fantastic.
The angry face, yeah, when heswitched to being jealous and
angry, so good yeah so yeah,I'll give that a four.
(29:12):
Um cinematography, there weresome rough moments, but I feel
that was on purpose.
The parts where I was pulledout of it was when we were in
the high-tech expos and we werelooking at the tesla car and all
those sorts of things.
That's when all of a sudden itfelt like we were in an austin
powers film and, yeah, likethey're in the same genre, but
(29:34):
they, they're very, verydifferent.
The cinematography did pull meout of it in those moments.
So I'm going to give that athree.
The Owl brought me back, butnot up to a four.
Soundtrack they reutilized theold soundtrack in a good way.
They didn't overutilize it.
(29:56):
Just having the old soundtrackto pull from, I I feel, gave
them an extra little boost.
So a 3.5.
If you're looking for thatnostalgia um story, I haven't
seen a story like this since, uh, titanic dances with wolves.
It's up there.
So I'm gonna start on this one,three, three and rewatchability
(30:24):
and this is something I do wantto discuss when we're on the
golden path is this is a comedyI could actually fucking watch
and there was no point where Iwas like fuck dude, and that was
great and it still made me,even with the dog, threesome um
they weren't actually fucking adog they weren't actually
fucking the dog.
(30:44):
Yeah, it was just amisunderstanding it was just a
misunderstanding these things.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
If I had a nickel, it won't let me around dogs
anymore.
My god, they don't even know Ihave remy, and so I like that.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
For the rewatch ability, I like that no one was
abused in the making of thiscomedy, and so for rewatch
ability, I know when it comesout I'm gonna buy it, I know I'm
gonna watch it again.
Um, I know, just whenever Iwant a relaxing like normally I
relax with, like the evil deadseries and you know things of
that nature.
(31:21):
So it's nice to add that to myrelaxed repertoire.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Just in the background.
Daddy daddy, daddy daddy.
What do we do, daddy?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And so is it.
Is it on the level of we'rewatching it every Christmas?
No, but rewatch ability, I'llgive it a four.
So is it on the level of we'rewatching it every Christmas?
No, maybe, but rewatchability,I'll give it a four.
I'm going to give it a four.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Good scores.
Good scores.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
All right, bring it home.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It's very interesting because you guys are.
So I thought Barry harsh on thestory, if I'm 100% honest, I'll
touch on that, but I think thatthe acting was device, yes, but
you'll hear me out, the.
So the acting I feel like wassolid.
I don't think that the way acomedy is set up is ever really
(32:09):
set up to deliver anybody togive a groundbreaking
performance in any way rightform.
So, um, but pamela anderson, Ithought, like you guys said, was
really good.
Liza Kashi, I think, is how yousay it.
She's like an old Vine star andI always found her very funny.
She was like the detective thattook over the bank robbery and
(32:31):
she was just like a sidecharacter.
No one took away from it for me.
So I gave the acting a four.
The cinematography is.
I think that, like he said,james, it was just used to.
Just, it was just because theyneeded a platform to like tell
these jokes on.
Yeah, I didn't think anythingwas innovative.
(32:51):
I, I really, but nothing likewas like, I'm not like, oh my
god, like um, so I, I did, I, Ijust don't think that you can uh
, give it any higher than reallylike a, a three, because you
know it's not revolutionary,it's just like, uh, a medium for
(33:12):
the content.
It wasn't innovative, it wascompetent, you know, and yes,
yeah, I think if you look at anolder movie of his, like hot rod
, where some scenes wereinnovative, you know at the time
he innovated on creating theblocking for these scenes that
made him like really excellent,whereas this one was just like
it was things that he'd learnedover his career that were done
(33:35):
confidently, yeah, yep, and butit was still good for the comedy
.
I think it wasn't like a badthing necessarily, so I gave it
right.
Uh, soundtrack I it was one ofthose that didn't really add but
didn't really take away.
However, pamela anderson's likescatting is a part of the
soundtrack, by the way, if youask me that is that adds.
(33:56):
It adds me, but I ended upgiving it a three because, uh,
it was one that I can't say thatin scenes I I really remember I
think that the jokes were kindof the solid point of the movie
and yeah what everything elsebecame a sidetrack for me.
But that's where I get to storywhere I think that they were
(34:17):
really just doing a play on allbad cop and bad detective, bad
spy movies and I feel like theycontinued, but that's like a
theme and it was a vision thathe wanted to tell.
That's all he wanted to tell andit threw the movie forward.
So picture every bad moviewhere, like you know, it might
not be bad the whole way through, but something just throws it
forward and it's like they didthat the entire movie through.
(34:40):
And I feel like it was exactlywhat he wanted to do when he was
telling this story of just aridiculous cop, and he did it in
a very funny way, which is whatthe comedy is supposed to do.
It's supposed to be a funnymovie that just makes you laugh
and doesn't have to necessarilybe a great story.
And this, also, like himleaning into the bad cop movies,
(35:02):
just made it like he's allowedto do that.
Oh, so you're saying, in thisinstance, the fact that it was a
cohesive vision, for you bumpedthe story up because you said
it wasn't about story, and sothat to me makes it seem like
it's probably not as good, yeah,but not fantastic, but it's,
you know where you're comparingit to something like that has a
(35:23):
you know superman.
That's like telling a true storyand like it's.
I don't know compare it, but ifyou're just comparing it to
like a comedy, I think that itwas.
I think he had a cohesivevision and it bumped up.
I gave it a 4.5.
I laughed a lot and I reallythe vision really.
But I think it's the way I'mdefining story, yeah, and then
when you watch ability, I gaveit 3.5 because I'm definitely
(35:45):
going to watch it again For sure, probably a couple of times.
Like you said, just get blastedand just sit there and laugh,
yeah, chuckle stupidly toyourself Exactly, does that mean
we have the score?
And chuckle stupidly toyourself exactly, does that mean
we have a score and that givesus a total score of 3.5 out of 5
for the pretty good.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, fair, I think that's where it deserves to be I
do our method, our product islike.
Genre is irrelevant.
We're going to give you theproper score yeah like we're
better than fandango andabsolutely, and that was a 3.5
on the nose.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
We didn't.
That's no rounding it was.
I don't know who's gonna saythat this movie is their
favorite movie I don't thinkanybody is gonna say that this
is their favorite movie, butlike 70 of people are gonna be
like you know, a lot of thosejokes landed with me because
there were like so many jokesthe jokes per second were off
(36:46):
the fucking chart it wasimpressive, though you're
talking about the jks.
Yeah, yeah, uh, and I wasclocking that as well but you
know, I think the story reallytook it down and I think it's
because you look at otherstories that akiva schaefer's
been involved in.
Like we said, hot rod, pop star, like those movies have and pop
(37:10):
star.
Yeah, those movies havecharacter progression and a
story delineation and they alsohave really high jokes per
second and I feel like they weremore cohesive than this one.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I thought this one was really just a a wild shot,
like a shotgun blast, of tryingto just do anything I feel like
what they were trying to do wasbe like I said, I got out of the
theaters and the first thing Idid was put on the original
naked gun.
And it's the same fucking movie.
Like it's the same.
You match the style.
Yes, it's the same.
(37:44):
Uh, jk jps, without a doubt.
Yeah, even just like there'sbackground jokes going on time.
So I think that's what they'retrying to do.
They're like this is this isnaked gun.
Yeah and well, so I I thinkit's time for us to get on the
golden path, and I think we'reall skeptical, but I feel like
we do have some things to talkabout here yeah, so, and I would
(38:06):
like for you to start it offgood sir.
Yeah, right, well, you lead usbefore we, uh, get into that,
it's time for our final toast,our final shot, our final hit.
This one, I mean, goes to asolid score in my opinion.
So this one goes out to acomedy film that was competently
made, well done and, honestly,for me, our show likes to
(38:30):
concentrate on rather negativefilms, and so just having an
R-rated comedy genre film intheaters before we do Weapons
next week.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Naked Gun was PG-13.
No, it was R?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I thought it was R dude, that dog scene dude, how
positive are you?
I feel pretty positive, I feellike it was Click a button when
I bought the tickets.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Maybe I was looking at a different movie.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
This is a big moment.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
PG-13.
Oh, this says PG-13.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
What the fuck Mine was.
There's no way that dog scenewas fucking PG-13.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
They weren't actually fucking the dog though.
I know that, but theimplication Google Reviews has
Naked Gun at a 3.5 right now.
Google Reviews knows what'sgoing on rotten tomatoes has it
on a 91, holy shit well, againrotten tomatoes fumbles the wall
(39:29):
, uh rotten tomatoes has no ideawhat they're fucking doing so
it's funny because googlereviews has like a ton of five
star and a ton of one star andjust smatterings in the middle
which I, whose favorite movie isthis.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
You're going to love or hate it.
Really, I don't think so.
If you give this movie a one,get the fucking dildo out of
here.
Just chill out, man.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
If you give this movie a five, slap yourself with
that dildo.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Wake yourself up, see a better movie.
See more movies, yeah no, lookthat whole positive, negative.
It's either the best thing I'veever seen or the worst thing
I've ever seen.
That shit ended in the 2010smillennials.
It's time to move on.
So, all right, here's to here'sjust to a decent comedy Finally
fucking showing up in theatersReally decent comedy.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Cheers.
That's two decent comedies thisyear.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
And I also like that it's on the second half of like
Superman coming out.
I mean, granted, these are allsigns that we're headed like
fucking we're sprinting towardsa recession Right headed like
fucking, we're sprinting towardsa recession, right.
But I, I love that we have somelike positive content to
finally start filling my fuckingeye holes with.
So did you watch friendship?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
did you guys watch friendship?
Yeah, yeah, I was friends.
That was.
Friendship was really hilarious.
Sorry, I've been thinking a lotabout your busty daughter and
how everybody's looking at her.
I think that was a joke.
I like the code.
Oh my God.
Oh, that was a big lick, dude.
What do you mean?
(41:07):
It's a big lick.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
All right, fellas, it's time to jump onto the
golden path.
All right, we've had enoughspice.
It's time to dive into thedeeper meanings of naked gun, so
I'll kick it off.
So there's two things that Iliked about it.
One that you know we're.
We're in a society, in a worldright now, where we don't have
(41:31):
any comedy and the only thingswe had to fall back on were
always those like those collegefucking things from the early
2000s and just all thesenostalgic things where, if you
watch it again, it's trash a lotof really gross comedies that
came out when we were coming ofage.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Like american pie you go back at.
Like the idea of filmingsomeone while they're changing
now would be like total.
It offends the sensibilitiesyou're like you.
You cannot do something likethat to someone without consent.
But like apple pie was one of.
We were like getting aresurgence of a generation from
like the people, like animalyeah yeah, we're.
(42:13):
We're like did not respectconsent and we got it right when
we were like 13.
And it really poisoned ourminds.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, and I guarantee that it was introduced to you
by some jackass father orstepfather or uncle, right, and
like you need to see this, likethis is going to, yeah, and it
was just trash.
And so you know, at the end ofthe new Naked Gun they did the
whole jazz bit where the camerais following the top of the
(42:41):
police cruiser just throughweird places.
Watch the original Naked Gun.
It goes through a women'slocker room, right.
Well, yeah, and I'm like, well,fuck, but this new one has
(43:03):
sensible boundaries, aboutconsent, about all those things
and so for that.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Um, as far as, yeah, it's amazing that they didn't
tell a racist joke.
As far, as I remember the onlyone they said they said, they
said uh, they said the hard arefor the special needs.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
They did but it was the bad guy who did it.
It was, it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I'm just, I'm just saying like that, like that was
the only line.
And then they also, I feel like, did do a little bit of like
kind of misogynistic gaze, alittle bit on pamela anderson,
especially in this scene whereit's like all the cops are just
like sitting there, like havinglike dirty thoughts, but very
minor again, didn't take awaywhere I wasn't like oh my god,
terrible it was and it was.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
It was an homage to yeah, it was an homage to the
joke of the original naked gun,which was an homage to noir.
La, uh, cop things where youhave that inner dialogue, and
she was all legs all the way upto her neck yeah, and it's like
all having it and going throughthe same exact.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, lucky fobos they played on that a couple
times and the joke was thateveryone was objectifying her
right.
That was the joke, exactly.
Yeah, like pointing out the badbehavior, and even liam neeson,
hey guys yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
And then I also appreciated, uh, the bit they
did, where he is talking to thebartender and uh, the bartender
goes you shot my father and he'slike I've shot thousands of
people.
When he says he was runningaway, all right, 500 people, he
was white.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Oh, you're, kevin, whatever's kid brother I think,
and he's like, how's he doing?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
not great.
And that was.
That was a solid joke.
It was making fun of an actualproblem, an actual situation,
society.
It was not punching up, it waspunching sorry, it was not
punching down, it was punchingup at this fucking boot that we
(45:00):
keep voting to put on ourfucking necks.
And so I appreciate that, likeI, I can't watch the old
comedies anymore, and so it's weneed to replenish our stock of
fucking comedy, and I feel thatthis new naked gun started yeah
hopefully, this is stillphenomenal.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
I still watch it and I still enjoy stepbrothers.
It's stupid, but I haven't seenin a long time it's so stupid.
That one never really hit withme, but I should probably try it
again if it holds up.
That's important.
But I did enjoy it a lot as akid, like in my teens early
pre-teens maybe and it was justso maybe I have a lot of
(45:43):
nostalgia held with it as well.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
I still quote it don't try to watch like old
school.
Well yeah, old school was uhfreaking colin farrell doing
those same fucking films that,uh, you know like, hey, here's
porky's again, will farrell, hesaid I was like colin farrell,
(46:08):
totally watch that movie.
Do you see that he just got putin?
Speaker 1 (46:12):
a romantic thing with margot robbie yeah, out of
nowhere, he's gonna do aromantic thing with margot
robbie yeah, no, yeah, out ofnowhere.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
He's gonna do a romantic thing with margot
robbie and I'm very interestedat the pairing, especially
because the last time we sawcolin farrell was as the penguin
, so maybe we'll do that on thisshow.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
We'll see what happens but uh, he was in
banshee's the intro and youshould check out that one.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
That's a laugh specifically not to see that one
.
You said that that one wouldput me in a depression.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Oh yeah, that's, but you, your life has progressed in
a positive direction since then.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I'm capable of digesting that content,
metabolizing it yeah, yeah yeah,jesus Christ, did you guys have
any thoughts that you wanted totoss down on the golden path?
Before we move on to our partthree?
Christ, did you guys have anythoughts that you wanted to toss
down on the golden path beforewe move on to our part three?
Speaker 1 (46:59):
I do think that this movie does a good job of just
kind of making fun ofstereotypes and being very
obvious with it.
I don't know if that can evenbe considered a golden path.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I also appreciate the bad guy's, elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, oh yeah.
I feel like you're beingstraightforward with just some
of their points.
It was very clearly acorporation.
And there's the bad guy,literal Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
But that's become a genre of villain.
Now is Elon Musk.
Well, I mean he was already avillain before that.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, he's a terrible human being and the hyper-rich
have always sucked, which isjust the facts of life,
unfortunately.
But tech get a weird followingso I actually have.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
A friend of mine is an ex um muskian he he was
totally.
When I first met this dude backin, uh, he was totally
convinced that elon musk wasgoing to bring us to a
technological utopia.
And he had an excuse.
He did Every weird fucking thingthat Elon was saying back in
(48:07):
those days.
And I'm already on the side ofyou know, eventually he's going
to attach himself to anauthoritarian and working way
into office and it's going to belike fuck, you want a cyberpunk
dystopia.
Elon Musk is how you get there.
And then in the previouselection even he's like I was
wrong, I was wrong, you wereright, I, I fucked up.
(48:27):
Yeah, I know you did, I knowyou did, I knew you did back
then, but I I love like lexluther in the new superman was
just a fucking Elon Musktemplate.
Yeah, like a more capable ElonMusk, willing to fucking roll up
his sleeves and get down to.
And I feel maybe we should havetouched on this in the Golden
(48:48):
Path.
I feel that Lex Luthor providedus an image an inappropriate
image of the rich that he waswilling to roll up his sleeves
and get down to work.
He didn't get out there andfight Superman.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
He stood behind a desk and ordered some poor clone
to do it.
Poor dumb clone who has no cluewhat he's doing.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
I feel like he put more work in than any
billionaire I've ever fuckingheard of, and I feel that that
sets a poor precedence for us.
There was a lot of work ethicin that little tower.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Sure, and I don't feel like I don't very
industrious bad guy.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, I don't feel we should be associating that with
that archetype, because youknow some of the tech bros and
joe rogan podcasters couldreally, you know, see that as a
positive.
But that's just me with lexluther.
Yeah, god damn it, god damn itgod damn it, we're in the worst
(49:42):
timeline.
You're all wrong, uh, butanyway, you're just wrong, but
anyway.
So I feel like we're ready tomove into the third portion of
this thing.
Um, you know, with 10 minuteson the clock, I think it's time
to insert ourselves drugs and oralcohol into this film.
(50:02):
So, fellas luke, you're the onewho hasn't started one of the
portion yet.
If you were in this film, howwould it change?
How would you be?
Speaker 1 (50:13):
um, I would like to be.
Hmm, I think I'd like to be thehenchman, um of the I want to
be yeah, I want to be yeah yeah,yeah, I want to be the henchman
.
I want to play that role.
I don't want to.
I don't want to be do muchworse, like different than kevin
(50:33):
durant did.
Right, he did a phenomenal job,so I want to take away from his
performance.
But I just think, being justkind of a dumbass who's just
going through it, just like yes,sir, like, just like like
following orders.
Basically, yeah, this is amindless movie and I want to be
a mindless character in it andjust kind of like watching
everything unfold from thebackground and I also probably
(50:56):
be telling people the secrets.
I'm like, hey, this guy isfucking evil as shit.
Uh, this is his plan, this ishis stall.
They'd have a full confessionfrom me, um, and I'd be in
witness protection by the end ofthe movie I would sing like a
canary, yeah and that's how Iwant to be in the naked gun
(51:18):
helping liam neeson and benwayne anderson bring justice.
All right, james.
I mean you'd be against them.
Part of it, part of it.
Well, that's all part of myplan, though you're definitely
going to jail.
That's fine, because you get tocome out and be an influencer,
(51:44):
but your cellmate comes out andhe's all body positive.
So that's what you change, isthat you just be body positive
and then everything will be okay.
Fantastic movie.
So let's see, I would, if I wasintroduced into this movie, I
would.
I found it really interestingthat this movie didn't have any
drunk or high jokes in it.
It didn't have any Right.
(52:05):
This is not a stoner film.
Really weird for the crew thatgave us Hot Rod and Popstar.
You know those for sure.
The original ones didn't either.
Oh, they didn't have any drunkjokes or anything.
Because no, it's no, it'sreally interesting because
fucking david zucker didairplane and that movie for sure
has drunk and high jokes in it,like that that was a stoner
(52:29):
film.
That was like on the og listairplane is a movie that is
problematic, but I would watchagain.
That's what I'd do.
Okay, I'd show up, I'd be inthis movie as the captain from
airplane, and then I, then Iwould bring I would bring
drinking and drugs into themovie and it would in that
(52:52):
middle part where it was kind oflulling between, like the uh,
between the scene where healmost shit himself and the and
the snowman scene, I'd be inthere and instead of the tech
shit we would be uh, uh in aclub or something.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
It would keep everyone interested well, I feel
that this portion of thepodcast in particular is
difficult for us because we'regenerally inserting ourselves
into serious film, right, and itmakes it much easier.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
We tend to subvert it .
Right, we tend to subvert theseriousness of the film.
How do you subvert the comedyof the film?
You can't do it by beingserious.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
I think you can by being serious.
No, by being serious.
I think you can by beingserious, so no would be an
anthropomorphic object who triesto kill them on a threesome.
The snowman was a seriouscharacter who tried to murder
them.
He took all the fucking sprayout of his inhaler.
He was a serious kid but itmade it funny because he was a
fucking snowman so, so, youwould you just do, would you
(53:57):
just do it without?
being a snowman?
I would no, I'd be maybe like acoffee cup, or I would be
another.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Is that the same scene?
Speaker 2 (54:06):
I would be another anthropomorphic object who's
just like sitting like thisfucking show who also has a
three-way rhythm, maybe, maybeit's on the table.
I would just be in thebackground inserting our fucking
you know, our world views ontothis fucking thing.
I'd be like a high and dry shotglass that's come to life
(54:28):
somewhere and I'm just givingour fucking dark bullshit, like
we always do, about everythingin the background of it.
So I would be another snowman,I'd be another owl, I would be
one of those things, just withthe you know, the depressing,
pessimistic thing that ouraudience has come to know and
(54:48):
love.
Like we're in the darkesttimeline.
So you're gonna ruin this movie,but it's essentially what
you're telling me because I'm acoffee cup, yeah, and I, I would
just bring some levity to itall, as some.
But like, follow me, I can tellyou what actually happened to
(55:12):
the gorgons at the end.
You know, fucking uh.
Whatever that movie was withKirsten Dunst God, what was that
movie?
Small Soldiers oh my god.
I haven't thought about SmallSoldiers.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
They apparently found the island.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
There was some article about the yeah well, so
I'd just be this anthropomorphicthing in the background that
says, hey, I actually know whathappened to the Gorgons at the
end of Small Soldiers, yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
And then actually, know what happened to the
gorgons at the end of smallsorglers, um yeah, and then roll
credits and then standingovation.
Yeah, five stars, five stars.
This whole thing has made methink that this movie is like
immutably like a 3.5.
Yeah, yeah, you can't make anyfucking better or worse.
It's just what the fuck it isand it could never be changed
(56:08):
and really it doesn't, can't domuch like normally.
Our ads drastically change theentire film.
It's yeah, we literally can'tdo anything.
I guess we could make it racistor something and that would
make it bad yeah, you know, wecould make it better I wonder if
that is the curse of comedy andhorror I don't know.
(56:31):
There's good comedy, horrors.
There's a five.
There's five comedy and horrors.
Tucker and dale versus evil islike five, if we were ever to
cover that.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
When was the last time you saw it?
Speaker 1 (56:43):
These college kids are killing themselves.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
He just threw himself in the wood chipper.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
I like that movie.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
At some point we need to go back through the archives
and see what we've ratedhorrors and what we've rated all
, but we've only done a handfulof comedies Right, if I'm being
generous.
We need to go back and see whatour ratings are.
I'm very curious to see and weonly recently started
letterboxing.
By the way, folks at homefollow us on Letterboxd.
We'll give you the definitiveright there.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
Yeah.
Except for you know, james isreally bad at that kind of thing
.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
He did the first one.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, don't count on me.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Listen to the podcast for my exclusive but uh, luke,
and I are a little more you knowout there, but um, I I'm I'm
curious to see if, if auniversal template applies to
genre film.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
Oh, you're saying that comedy just can't rise to a
five.
I don't know Disagree.
I think Hot Rod is a reallygood movie.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
But it was brought down by the fucking Cool Bean
scene.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
There's just one scene.
The rest of the movie wasreally good.
The Cool Bean scene was bad.
It was my least.
The rest of the movie wasreally good.
The cool bean scene was bad.
It was my least favorite partof that movie and his, uh, uh,
the whole, uh, fucking camp back.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Uh, the kevin bacon movie, the dancing movie fucking
oh, the footloose.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
No, that was great.
The footloose scene was greatit was a little.
I'm going to my little placeand then the the face with this
baton, and then the hard cut tothe woods.
Come on.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
This is a little long I gave.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
Friendship a 4 out of 5.
I thought that was really good.
It had some really coolcinematic shots.
It was like it was cool.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Let's remember this.
So next week we're releasingour weapons episode.
Let's see if it can pull offmore than three points.
Uh, I mean, have we had ahorror that hasn't pulled?
Speaker 1 (58:47):
have we had a horror that hasn't wait.
Really, we haven't had a horrorthat that's been a high rated.
No, wow really well, that'sinteresting.
I guess not for out to wasn'treally horror, I was never
scared.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah, like you might as well.
It was just a romance stageproduction, yeah, yeah it was a
tragedy.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah, that's interesting.
I think maybe tour de pharmacytour de pharmacy was 40 centers
is supposed to be horror.
It wasn't, it was a, it was not, it was not musical, almost.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
Yeah, it's good yeah, it was a fantastic
dramatization.
Yeah, yeah, definitely, I, yeahbut have you seen?
Speaker 1 (59:31):
it's in horror genre.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
I guess it's more of an action, that's being yeah,
that's being so subjective, likethat's being less than guess,
it's more of an action.
That's being yeah, that's beingso subjective, like that's
being less than subjective.
It's just a generalization,because there's a monster in it
yeah, were you ever scaredduring the sinners?
Speaker 1 (59:47):
no, not for a second no, not for a second I don't
want to be scared in any movie Isee, though, so that's the
point of horror.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Well, it's horror, it was just supernatural.
Speaker 1 (59:57):
And so, therefore, it's categorized as horror.
Well, which?
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I disagree.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I think if we would have seen, we would have
reviewed, Bring Her Back.
That one had me just.
I was like cringing the entiretime.
I didn't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I'm actually getting ready to purchase that tonight.
I've been dying to see that.
I'm actually getting ready topurchase that tonight.
I've been dying to see it.
I keep seeing it pop up on myWeapons is just on edge, for me
Too scary.
I think this might be a reallyscary movie.
The commercials look fantastic,but I've seen good commercials
before and I've beendisappointed.
Little kids don't scare me.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I'm hoping for the best.
Let me know what you think ofBring Her Back, because that one
I thought was really good andbleak and really fucked me up
during a hard time and Irecommend it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Yeah, that's the point of horror.
That is the fucking point.
Well, I was watching a thingrecently that people who like
for me, people like me who watchhorror religiously and can just
sit there, you know,stone-faced, and enjoy it and
want to see how to push thegenre and everything like that
(01:01:10):
it's because it regulates someform of PTSD that I have.
I don't know how accurate thatis.
I feel that might just be somekind of TikTok trend.
Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
It's like sure, it's a coping mechanism, maybe, but
that doesn't mean it'stherapeutic in any way.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Yeah, so like all things I mean.
But at the same time I walkedinto Naked Gun saying that
there's no way this is going tobe a good film and then I left
going.
Okay, I laughed a lot, Ilaughed a lot, I laughed all the
time and again the snowmanscene, the jack frost thing was
hilarious.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
The best scene in my opinion yeah, and you know they
were going just when they findthe book of spells and
incantations.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
You're like oh, this is going right off the rails and
then just to have fucking liamneeson get on his knees with
pamela anderson and recite aspell that brings a jealous
snowman back to life incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
I love it.
Their first heads out thewindow.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
The first instinct was to fuck it, and that was
what I was like.
I was like I would fuck thatsnowman fuck that snowman
literally hell yeah all right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Well, hey, folks at home, thank you for listening.
You know, comedy is a weird onefor us.
Normally we poke holes in.
You know, the media we've beenconsuming but, as you know, we
are spiraling towards arecession, so the movies are
different now.
Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
This movie just had plenty of holes for us to get
into.
We didn't have to poke any init.
There's nothing we could do.
We just had to use all of itsholes that it already gave us.
Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Use them holes so hey , thanks for listening.
Let me host ryan baron northwith me.
As always.
James crossland, luke fellas.
It's a pleasure, as always.
Bye.
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