Vampires, Blues, and Cultural Battles

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Ryan Coogler's "Sinners" blends vampire horror with a profound exploration of cultural identity through the lens of a 1930s juke joint under siege by Irish vampires. The film's exceptional cinematography and soul-stirring soundtrack elevate it to our highest-rated movie yet.

• Michael B. Jordan delivers a standout dual performance as twins, creating two distinct characters who share significant screen time
• The film uses aspect ratio changes brilliantly, expanding the screen as the narrative's scope widens
• Score and soundtrack integrate blues and Irish music to tell a story about cultural preservation and amalgamation
• Vampires as Irish immigrants creates a powerful metaphor about historical racial dynamics in America
• The contrasting approaches to cultural blending—sharing versus consuming—forms the core thematic tension
• Cinematography shines particularly during musical sequences where visuals and sound become fully integrated
• Despite some third-act predictability, the film maintains its artistic integrity and emotional impact

Watch Sinners in IMAX if possible for the full intended experience with its expansive visuals and immersive sound design.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
you know, and it'll be rated as it was meant to be
by three white men yeah, I thinkthat I think that we have the
best insights.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Obviously, obviously, obviously.
Listen, it's 2025.
You're allowed to have anyinsights you want.
We're not confined to thebarriers of race or
socioeconomic status or eventime.
Just do whatever the fuck youwant.
As long as you're not hurtinganyone.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Do whatever you want, as long as you're not being a
piece of shit, but yeah, butover half the world doesn't
believe in that.
So all right, let's get into it.
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Yeah, hey, everyone, welcome toHigh and Dry Podcast.
I'm your host, ryanBarrow-North, with me, as always
, luke James Crossland.
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Harriet the Spy.

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Oh yeah, RIP Michelle Trachtenberg.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's very rare that I don't have to look up what you
said.
Oh yeah, I don't have to lookup which I do know.
This one, though I do I forgot?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
sometimes I forget that you're younger than us.
You know you're.

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You're like half a decade younger than us and so
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I saw harriet the spy in theaters, so did I uh yeah,
I definitely had never.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I remember I might have seen this like on tv,
though, because I do rememberthis um movie I remember there
was like a snow day thing, orwas that just a different snow
day?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
was a different movie .
It was a different michelletrachtenberg I, she might have
been in that one you said.
Said you remember Snow Day LukeWas Michelle Shachtenberg in
that one, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I couldn't say I don't remember.
I did love that one.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
A very formative scene from Harriet, the Spy from
my youth is when Harriet islooking over at her classmate
who came back from summervacation with tits.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I do remember that.
I do remember that now.
Wow.
So everyone, welcome to Highand Dry.
We're not going to be talkingabout breasts in a preteen
television show all episode.
We're going to switch over toadult breasts.

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So, for those of you who arejoining us for the first time,
we're going to be breaking downa movie for you today.
We are going to be tacklingSinners, a film that's just now
kind of starting to hit all thestreaming services, and we're
going to do this in a three partmethod.
First, we're going to rate thisfilm and we're going to give

(02:44):
you the definitive score on this, as could only be delivered by
us.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
No one can ever argue it at all.
We're just saying that imdb isvery harsh on movies and,
realistically, you should belistening to us and not them.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yes, right, yeah, rotten tomatoes is skewed um.
Siskel and ebert are dead,aren't they?
One of them is siskel, siskel.
Yeah, so we are the definitivenow.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
So then, part two Roger Ebert is still kicking
around out there.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
He's still doing something.
Oh, I know the Gen Zersdefinitely turned to him for
their their movie reviews.
Still so good for him.
So part two we're going to geton the golden path and we're
going to really dive into someof the deeper layers of this
particular film onion.
And then, finally, we're goingto insert ourselves drugs and or

(03:30):
alcohol into the film.
And what makes it so fun, sofantastic and so special is that
we're going to be doing a drunkand or high.
So, uh, fellas, what are yousmoking this week?
You?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
go.
I want you to go first thistime, ron, what?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
are you drinking this week?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
you.
I would like to know whatyou're drinking we're also
giving this week, I know I'mjust feeling in the mood right.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Well, I picked up some yellowstone select.
This is a a 93 proof.
Uh, bourbon whiskey.
It's a little little lighterthan what I tend to do.
I was looking at one that was123, but I decided eh, let's try
123.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
But is that one?
Would you say that one'ssmoother than something that you
normally drink, or not?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
It should be, because normally I'm drinking in the
120s, like 115, 120 is where Ilike to hang out, so I decided
to tone it down just a touch.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, I think that was worth going going first.
That's a change up for you.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
That's not even that's not the normal well, I
mean last week I did patroneyeah, that was a, that was a big
curveball.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
The white liquor on last week, that one I I would
have swung and missed that anyday of the week.
Well, what about you, fellas?
I have a, a classic strain.
Uh, I think everyone knows thisone pineapple, express it's a
good one.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, I have like stress is really going and it is
I.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I had it as soon as I got.
I'm like, man, this is such agood.
It's a citrusy, it's, it's agreat, it really is a great
strain is it sativa dominant,hybrid or did you get managed?
To get a pure sativa, no sativadominant hybrid.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah does it also send inappropriate text messages
to underage girls?
No, not this one it does whenyou're not looking.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oh no, using your phone uh, james franco afari
fell from grace, also not a weedsmoker.
If you watch pineapple expressand you watch him, uh, in his
scenes, no smoke or anything.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Everyone else has smoke and uh, james franco did
nothing, he's he's also a liaryeah, he's also a liar, exactly
wow okay, all right, wow so notonly a pedo liar cool, that's.
Yeah, I was you know I, I'mdone, I'm done yeah, all right,
what about?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
you james, what you got for us this week I've got an
indica, um, it is kush mints.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So you know a mixture of, you know one of the several
mint strains and then, uh, Ithink it was bubba kush.
So, yeah, kush mints, a reallygood hybrid, I mean a really
good cross strain full indicaand uh, it definitely, which is
hard to find nice, all right,well, I feel like I find a lot
of hybrids now, a lot of hybrids, oh yeah everything's a hybrid

Speaker 1 (06:27):
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Well, this, uh, this next one.
Well then, let's load them up,take them down.
This first shot is going out toour newest listeners in acre
northern district.
I'm guessing that's like aplace from uh hunger games or
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R?
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A c r e acre, which is in syria?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
oh, well, there you go.
Okay, yeah, I wouldn't, uhwouldn't have uh guessed that,
and I obviously didn't.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
So here's to them cheers oh, oh, no, sorry,
apparently it's in Israel.
I thought it was Syria, butit's in.
Israel All right.

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Well actually we're going to change that.
First, Coach, this one's goingout to Vernon, Connecticut.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm not mad at our listener from Israel.
Thank you for listening.
You probably agree with us on alot of stuff.
Yeah, I Israel.
Thank you for listening.
You probably agree with us on alot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I mean, if you found us.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Cheers to new listeners Cheers.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, I'm not used to that, it's.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh, Lucas coughing hard, oh, I know.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I'm going to the the the ace pinchura always gets me
good.
There's uh, it's weird, it'slike I mean I don't know what it
says about me that a 93 proofliquor tastes like water, um,
but like I'm waiting for thebite of it and it never comes,
and that makes me like kind oflike ugh.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Why did that?
I don't understand that chase.
Cause I want my booze to nottaste bad, so like don't you not
want the bite?
Isn't that awesome?
That's like you trained, youpushed yourself through hell to
now be able to have a 93 proofand just be like wow, that's
nice.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Well, to now be able to have a 93 proof and just be
like, wow, that's nice.
Well, now I'm like it's missingsomething.
It's flavor, it's the lack ofalcoholism that you're missing.
Very bizarre.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Very bizarre.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
All right, well, this final one.
No, this is the second one.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Here we go.
I'm so confused by the title.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
This one is going to go out to our film this week
Sinners Cheers Sir Ryan Coogler.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Okay that one had a little more sting to it, but
it's like missing flavor to me.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I like that you're looking at directors now, Luke.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I am.
I also look up facts about themand look at their past films.
Nice yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Not necessarily.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I don't always do it before I watch the movie, but I
always do it after I've watchedthe movie and I'm like just to
get an idea of maybe, like,especially if I'm not
understanding a story.
And I'm like just to get anidea of maybe, like, especially
if I'm, if I'm, notunderstanding a story and I'm
like what the fuck was that?
Like I'm like, well, let me gosee what, like, what director it
is to see if, like, how, whatstory they were trying to tell
me.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, Ryan Coogler Good director.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, Very good.
Yeah, he does a very good jobof representing African-American
culture in the US.
I think he does it.
He did it in the Black Panthermovies.
I thought that was really cool,which is obviously like a
marvel not necessarily likeAfrican-American culture, but
African culture.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
He did Creed.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
He did Fruit.
Very rare revive of franchiseis good and he did it, which is
an impressive thing to do here'sto reviving those franchises,
putting out some good movies andgiving us some shit to talk
about here's to Creed here's toRyan Coogler.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't care so much about whether a thing is a, you
know, franchise or not, I justwant a good movie.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
You know, I really just want to watch a good movie
well, and I think the reason why, like, I don't mind a franchise
reborn honestly I'd love itbecause there's so many
franchises I love and I'msomeone is like give me more
content, but I feel like it'shard to do they just we saw it a
lot this year where these someof these franchises just lean on
the nostalgia of the franchiseum, a little too much and I'm

(10:59):
like, okay, cool, like be yourown and you know, uh, yeah, I'll
go on a long tangent about this, but the jackie chan films had
me like really feel, like I feellike the jayden smith jackie
chan actually a pretty solidmovie.
I thought like it was likebasically similar storyline but
like still entertaining to watch, while, as the, the most recent
one was more just a hey, we, weknow you guys like the karate

(11:21):
kid.
Here they are like okay cool,yeah, not as good.
Hard to hard to do those reborn,so to have, uh, a tip of the
angler's cap to ryan cooglerhimself well, speaking of the
kugelmeister, uh, let's talkabout his film sinners.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Um, there's his new name.
You heard it here first um souh, who made?
Him german.
Yep, I mean, that's why he's socritical of, uh fucking, just
you know, the united states.
In general, he's obviously verygerman obviously obviously,

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what the fuck?
all right, so let's talk aboutthis movie.
So part one it's time to divein.
It's time to break this thingdown in our patented method here
.
That is going to get you thescore of this film, and you can
eventually see that on ourletterbox, by the way.
So go ahead and jump over there.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
All right, yeah, we're supposed to be doing that
Letterbox, letterbox so

Speaker 1 (12:23):
james, you want to go ahead and you want to go ahead
and kick this one off?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
me.
Yeah, yeah, kick this one off,uh.
So I guess I should start outby saying I really liked sinners
.
I thought it was a good movie.
Um, it was.
This is like a movie.
Not all movies are like this.
I don't think 28 years later,that we reviewed last week was a

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movie that benefited greatlyfrom being seen in an audience.
But sinners I don't know aboutyou guys's theaters, but my
theater was lively.
Uh, like everybody was lovingthis movie and they were getting
into it and god that is such anenjoyable experience.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I love that.
That is something I love aboutthe movie, so so much.
That's really cool to hear.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah there are a bunch of people go, oh you know,
and and uh, and there was ascene, there was the, the first
scene where, um, where thevampires are outside and uh, and
then they like answer the doorand and uh, just some lady in
the back was like oh no, andeverybody just burst out

(13:33):
laughing it was like a greattime at the theater with this
movie.
I really loved it.
Uh, so that's, that's just onething before we get to anything
else.
Um, I thought the acting wasfantastic.
I saw a bunch of familiar faces.
I think that there were a fewstandouts.
Obviously, michael B Jordan didan excellent job with a really

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tough thing, which was playing adual role.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
And it wasn't just a dual role it was twins who were
on screen together frequentlycan be like yeah, that can be
very difficult and we've seen itfail in past movies where it's
like, oh yeah, not that good,these are not too, but I feel
like he really portrayed twodifferent characters very well.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
It was really really exactly yeah, he gave them like
he was able to portray each oftheir personalities and how they
were different.
And by the end of the movie Iwas like, oh, those are two
different people.
I was like, oh, no shit, it'smichael b jordan.
You know I, you're right, likeby the end of it.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I had complete obviously.
Right away you're like oh,michael b jordan, michael b
jordan, but then I agree by theend of it.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
You really completely forget about that yeah, and
then I had to remind myself like, damn, he did a really good job
.
Uh, so obviously a standout,and I thought uh wouldn't be
Masako who played um Annie.
She was also in, uh, a bunch ofother stuff I've seen, like
Lovecraft country, which I liked, yeah, um, she was in Loki.

(14:58):
She was one of the she chickand loki.
Um, she was a voice onscavenger's reign, which I think
is one of the best animatedsci-fi things to come out in
like a decade.
Um, yeah, she's been in tons ofreally good stuff.
Um, I think she did a great jobas a voodoo woman who, like the

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, the, the wise there's someonein every one of these vampire
movies, like in blade.
It was the old, the old guywith the long hair.
Whistler, yeah, whistler, yeah,vampires like this yep, and she
came along.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Arguably she was better than whistler.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yes, yes, she's better than whistler by far, uh,
but she did a great job in thismovie and she did a great job
being like uh, and she did agreat job being empathetic.
We could empathize with her.
It's very relatable.
Anyway, like I said, tons ofgreat standout acting in this
movie.
I loved it.
So the acting on this I thinkI'm going to give a 4.5, just

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because some of the backgroundwas not as good Background
acting, but there were somestandouts and it really pushed
it up.
Uh, cinematography I I saw thisin imax because it was
advertised as the first film ofthe year filmed for imax, and so
I was like all right, I gottago see this in an imax theater

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and it was awesome.
I don't know what your guys'sexperiences were like, but like
the cinematography was fuckingdope, incredible.
It really incredible, yeah, andthey did that.
They did a thing that I love,where at I'm pretty sure I I
made an, I made a note, but aslong after the fact I haven't, I
didn't go back to the theaterto watch it again.
In your theaters did they do anaspect change at the beginning,

(16:43):
like it was small, a smallerscreen, and then they like
widened the screen yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
So I actually wound up, um, I bought the film while
it was still in theaters forhome.
Yeah, they did do that there,but I was able to buy the like
the extended uncut edition,because, like I could, either I
could rent it for 20 bucks or Icould buy it for 25 and I'm like
I hope I like this movie.
I'm paying extra five dollarsand I really did, so it worked

(17:12):
out really good yeah yeah, and Ithought.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I thought that was an excellent portion of the
cinematography.
It's something that I praised.
Another like a what I wouldconsider a five out of five
galaxy quest, galaxy quest likedid that thing where it expands
the screen.
Once he, once he like sees space, like it, it opens up the
screen and it like, blows hismind.
It's like you're, it's likeyou've, your consciousness is
expanded and that, and it's likein this, in this one they

(17:36):
didn't use it bullshitty, it waslike no, the world expanded.
You know, once you learn moreabout these people, the world
and the story expands and yousee more and um, I think.
I think that's greatcinematography.
I can't find anything to faultwith this cinematography.
I might give it a five um forthe score and soundtrack.

(17:58):
I thought.
I mean obviously it's beengetting a lot of praise for the
score and soundtrack being inthe IMAX theater, tons of other
people getting into it.
That soundtrack fucking ruled.
People were having a great time.
I agree.
People were loving it.

(18:19):
That one, I feel like I'm goingto give it a five.
It was innovative.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
In the sense of that scene where it's like going from
past to future, to present, andlike I was, I was like
breathtaking in that moment,like I was like whoa, like
really, really cool.
And on cinematography, likeboth sides of that, that whole
scene, we're just like wow, thisis like artistry in front of us
right now.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Like I was very impressed with that, like yeah,
and it was like a one, like alot of it was one.
I don't know if the whole thingwas a one, but they had like
the rotating camera and so theyhad to people have people like
dipping in and out of frame andstuff.
I think I think it was cutseveral times.
I didn't see it again, I didn't, I didn't make a note of it,

(19:13):
but thinking back on it, I thinkit was cut, um, but still very
cool.
Uh, the, the music was likereally overwhelming in the
theater.
It really like shook you, youknow, um.
I think that also the fact thatit told a story, you know, part
of the story of this movie waslike black culture and and other
minority, like they had the,the, the couple who were of
chinese descent, and it had, youknow, their, you know a
representation of their historyI appreciate it just on that.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
On that point, I mean this may be a golden path
portion, but I loved that theydecided that the vampire should
be irish.
Um, and like historically,those two groups were pitted
against each other in that timeframe in the united states.
Um, right, and I love that.
They still paid a lot ofrespect to the vampire's culture

(19:58):
.
When he stopped bullshittingand he was just being himself,
that entire musical piece of hiswas almost ethereal.
I really enjoyed that.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, absolutely, and I also love that it told a
little bit of a story because,also, when you think about it
from modern eyes, the moviewe're still watching in modern
times, the soundtrack, had a lotto tell us about the modern
times.
It, the soundtrack, had a lotto tell us about the past, but
it also had a lot to tell usabout the present story as well,
and one thing the music did forthe story is so let's talk

(20:34):
about, you know, remix irish.
Maybe this is a golden paththing, but I don't want to lose
it.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I think we're didn't want to lose it all right.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
You have to say, though, they told a story with
the music.
The fact that Irish music wasstill there, it didn't have to
be recalled upon.
He was still there and he wasstill sharing it.
But they had to call up thepast.
The white past has beenunbroken in this country, but
other cultures' pasts have beenbroken, and then they have to

(21:02):
mash together and band togetherto stand up to the same kind of
present nature of music forwhite history.
You know, um.
So I thought that the music wasgreat five uh story and plot.
Um, I thought that the plot wasgood.
I the plot wasn't the star ofthe movie, that all the other

(21:24):
stuff was the star of the movie.
They smashed it out of the parkand everything.
There were some parts of theplot that were really
predictable, yeah, and I didn'tfeel particularly overwhelmed by
the plot.
I did like the way theyportrayed vampires.
I did like this idea of a hivemind uh, that they do the
vampires, not always the type ofvampire you see um, yeah,
almost not like bloodthirsty.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
They felt patient and like like, yeah, uh, evil, like
evil, like truly, just kind oflike like just throwing a party
outside of their party justwaiting for them to be like cool
, we can pick them off when theyget out here, but until then we
can't go in.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
We know the rules can't go in, gotta be invited,
but uh, yeah, like thing thatdrove me crazy about it was like
this dude was clearly old.
Yeah, there's no fucking wayhe'd forget what time it was.
Maybe he was ready to die, buthe he gave no indication of that
being the case.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I bet they had to cut it because it's not his story,
remember, but then it's notreally his story.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, I mean, I'll go into this more when it's my
turn.
So I my, I, you and I seem tobe on the exact same track here
it's yeah, like five, five, fivefive, and let's talk about that
plot for a second uh, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
And the thing about it is I still enjoyed it, you
know, I still enjoyed it and Istill had a good time with it,
so I can't knock it too hard.
I'd give it like, uh, 3.5, uh,for re-watchability um, I.
So here's where I'm actuallygoing to say.
Something that might becontroversial is that I'm going
to re-watch this movie, but I'mnot that excited about

(22:55):
re-watching it because it's notgoing to be in a theater, in
imax, with a crowd of people whoare like electrified by the
hype that this has been gettingand like the experience of
seeing it for the first time.
I don't know if it'll captureas much again, and so my
re-watch ability actually kindof goes down because I don't
have that kind of home theatersystem for the experience.
So, 3.5 I'll.

(23:16):
I will see this movie again,but it's not like I'm not dying
to, you know I.
I remember the first experienceand I thought it was dope, you
know and I agree that sometimesit pulls away when you watch at
home.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
But that's also kind of a test testament to the movie
.
How is it when you watch it athome?
But it's also kind of atestament to the movie.
How is it when you watch it athome?
Is it still as enjoyable?
Does it capture you?
Because you know if the storydoes pull away too much, it
might not as much.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
So I've only seen it at home, so that might be
difficult for me.
Maybe that should be our rulethat I got to see these things
in theaters, so I wound upwatching this.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Sometimes it's not feasible.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, well, I wound up watching this thing because
my girlfriend was crazy about itand she said I need you to see
this movie so we can talk aboutit.
And so I thought, yeah, okay,and I bought it for $25 fucking
dollars, but I was happy, I did,I was happy I did.
Well, I'll dive into my scoresthen.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, let's hear them .

Speaker 1 (24:16):
All right, so acting I there were a few.
There were a few people in thismovie that really took it away
from me at all, and I alsowanted to give a shout out to
Delroy Lindo, yeah as the oldtimer.

(24:37):
I loved him just because he hadmannerisms and he would do
things and say I've met that guyyeah he was Delta Slim, by the
way, was his character.
Yes, and I've met that guy andhe just he killed it.
He killed it.
I um, just even in the momentwhere, um they walk in on, uh,

(25:04):
michael b jordan having sex,well, that he was being turned
into a vampire, but he thoughtit was sex, yeah, and he's like,
oh, he's a little busy rightnow, isn't he?
Every time he was on scene, Iloved him, do you?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
remember him chasing down Nicolas Cage in Gone in 60
Seconds.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I do yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
He's a good actor.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Gone in 60 Seconds is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I like Gone in 60 Seconds.
Oh, I love Gone in 60 Seconds.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's so bad but it's so good.
So my first encounter with himwas in romeo must die oh, the
jet lee movie, where he was likethe up-and-coming boss, um, who
was taking on the white manboss, you know, and um, I loved
him in that.
I've I have liked him since thefirst time I saw him in the

(25:53):
year 2000.
Um, so I was happy to see himagain.
But, uh, uh, so, yeah, acting,I'm going to give it a 4.5.
I'm going to give it a 4.5.
Not everyone there was on theira game, but they were really,
really trying.
Yeah, um, so I'll give it a 4.5, uh, cinematography, um, yeah,

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so I'll give it a 4.5.
Cinematography, yeah, I thought, I thought this was really
something special, especially inthe musical scenes.
That, the way they did a lot ofthis, I thought was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, a lot of times like the movie forgets that
visuals and sound like like thisone, integrated sound into the
movie in a way that most don'tsound, was part of the movie.
It was a, it was, it was.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
It was part of the story, it was part of the
cinematography, it was part ofeverything which I thought was
fantastic, and so and I'll getinto this even more when I get
to the story and plot the onlytime the cinematography lost it
for me was when, in my opinion,this movie forgot what it was
and um, it turned and then likethey're like oh, we have to wrap

(26:59):
up this fucking vampire plot.
So like when the vampires burstinto the place itself, all of a
sudden it's not as dynamicanymore.
Um, when, uh, michael b jordanis fighting michael b jordan
upstairs, all of a sudden it'slike it's very plain and and uh
it, it lost a lot of that for me.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Are you saying it had like?
I'm trying to remember becauseI saw this a while ago.
Was it like um, was it likejason bourne style fighting?
So that was jason bourne.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Quick, quick cuts a lot of, so a lot of quick cuts,
um, all of a sudden, um the thejuke itself wasn't as dynamic,
right?
Um?
So, and I'll jump to story andplot here, because my
cinematography issue and mystory plot issue was that at one
point, this movie is trying topay an homage to From Dusk Till

(27:53):
Dawn.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Well, it kind of.
So.
I think it's because of thesurprise, right?
A lot of people didn't knowwhat this movie was about when
they went to see it.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Which is all well and good, and I'm going to piss a
lot of people off with thisstatement From Dusk Till Dawn,
fucking sucked.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
You're not pissing me off, I still I like.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I sometimes like movies that sup, because they
have something redeeming aboutthem yeah, but when you're, when
you're on the fucking precipiceof a goddamn masterpiece a
masterpiece maybe don't borrowfrom some piece of shit, from
the foot guy, um, uh and and solike, and so that's when I was

(28:39):
finally pulled out of it of themagic of this film, when they're
like all right, we still haveto wrap up this vampire plot, um
, we're going to just suck inthe cinematography, into into a,
a juke that was once dynamicand magical and now it's just a
setting for people easilystabbing vampires in the chest.
Yeah, um, there's.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
There was a weird, weird vampire fighting.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
See, I do remember that, which is absolutely
nonsense.
I don't know if any of ourlisteners had tried to stake
someone in the chest or juststab fucking hard.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Stab someone in the chest.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
There's a bunch of ribs there yeah, it doesn't work
like that, and it drove mecrazy where, just all of a
sudden, they're like oh yeah,and like our whole chest is
designed to protect our organsin there yeah, and, and they
just made it look fucking easy,like as soon as you learn that
you could stake a vampire, andthis isn't fucking buffy, all

(29:35):
right um, it was very buffy itwas very buffy or blade yeah, or
blade, and I would have somevery, very stern commentary on
blade as well.
So well, yeah, it's a bad movie.
I love it, yes, yeah you couldlike a movie and still be like
that was trash um, but uh, andso that's where I sort of lost

(29:58):
it for me.
So, just going back to the topthere then, uh, cinematography I
give it a four.
Um, story and plot I'm going togive it a three.
The score I'm going to give ita five.
Just incredible.
And rewatchability I'm going togive it a 4.5.

(30:19):
I've already watched it threetimes, so I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'll wind up watching it again.
I got to buy this movie.
Guys Got to buy it, Got to buyit.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
So yeah, I'm sure I'll watch it again.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
So, yeah, definitely 4.5 I think that's pretty fair.
I honestly, um, it had been awhile since I I've seen this one
.
I think I saw it on openingweekend.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Um, yeah, yeah you and I you and I are both like
we're gonna go see sinners thisweekend and ryan's like oh,
maybe, uh.
And I have to say um, as notour favorite.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
You know, horror not being my favorite genre, um, I
really really like this movie.
I'm always a fan of horror thatis very well told, like good
storytelling, and because I'mnot, you know, if I'm if I'm not
a big fan of jump scares andstuff, I at least want to have
to be, you know, entertained bya good story.
Horror for the sake of horroris never going to be something I

(31:17):
enjoy, because that's not whatI like to um to watch.
So, um, I thought this moviewas really good, um, and I
thought the acting was verysolid and I think that there
were care side characters eventhat drew me into the movie.
There were definitely a littlebit of takeaways, but not like
it was almost moments forcertain actors, but they also

(31:40):
had redeeming moments throughoutthe movie.
So, acting, I give a 4.5.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
When they gave special moments to characters.
That took me way out of it.
Now that you bring up thespecial moments where they're
like all right, is my dyingscene?

Speaker 3 (31:53):
yeah, and then throw themselves into the vampire it
just like and yeah, so sometimeseven I feel like it wasn't
necessarily uh, their fault,like potentially just like, like
not like good story pointsbecause, like I remember a
specific scene with hayleysteinfeld where it like thrown
forward, she's like I'll go talkto him, I'm a white person too,

(32:15):
what Like I just like that justseemed a bit absurd and just
thrown forward and it was amoment that it took away from me
for her.
But I'd give it a 4.5.
I still think it was very solid.
Cinematography was a standoutfor me.
I really enjoyed it.
I do think that I I don't likethe fact that like the and how

(32:36):
it ended.
I agree, just like the chaoticfight where it was like real
easy to kill vampires kind ofjust wasn't my favorite uh
ending to that story, but, um, Ialso like didn't hate that part
of the story, but I do thinkthat it could you could call it
a bit boring.
I gave cinematography a five.
I thought it was really fun towatch.
I thought it was an integralpart of the movie and really

(32:58):
well thought out andchoreographed.
Um, the uh score and soundtrackis just a standout.
It's pretty easy to give that afive.
I mean, I think it was.
I think that it was veryintentional.
Um, I think that, uh, it was anintegral part of the movie,
like you said, james, it was.
You know, it was literally kindof written into the story and I

(33:21):
think that it was really cool.
I everybody loves music.
I'm a big music uh person and Ithink it was uh phenomenal.
I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
You know it's funny.
Not everyone loves music.
Some people might skip thismovie cause they're like nah, I
don't really like music?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, exactly Like.
For sure I'm psychopath.
Some people just don't connectwith music.
Yeah, and I love the blues too.
So that you know, it was justenjoyable for me in general.
I thought that, like it was, Ilove that that um the soul of of

(33:56):
blues and his voice um thewhat's his, what's the actor's
name?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
the guy who played same old old sammy or young
sammy, old old sammy, not miles.
Well, I mean, he's like, Ithink the guy who played old
sammy buddy guy, I'm pretty surehe's like that's like old, old
sammy, though right, yeah, he,yeah, he's old, old sammy, and
who played young sammy?
Young sammy was miles cat catoncaton might be really man the

(34:24):
picture he just looks like alittle kid.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
It's crazy.
Like it doesn't even look like,yeah, um for like just to cast
on on imdb.
But, um, yeah, I thought um, hewas, he was, his voice was
really really good and I reallyenjoyed it.
Um, so, yeah, five for that.
Uh, story plot, I agree iswhere it took away a little bit.
There were points where it wasthrown forward.

(34:48):
I do agree that the kind of thevampires like it did, like I
didn't love the ending to theirstory.
I honestly would have justliked the slaughter because I
thought it'd be cool if theylike ended up tricking their way
in or like a war outside, orthey just wait him out to the
sun and then it's like alingering like oh, we'll be back
, like that.
Could you know something like?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
that I would have liked if the white vampires
consumed and all of the blackpeople.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
No, but yeah, I really do think that they could
have been, could have been alittle better, but it didn't
take away from the movie toomuch for me.
So I gave that a four and thenI would probably give this one
like a 3.5.
100, watching it at least onemore time.
Um, because it's it's coming tostreaming, but I don't know if

(35:40):
I would watch this over and overagain.
I think it's a movie that, likeonce you've seen the plot, like
seen the ending to it, you'rekind of like okay, cool, like
don't get me wrong, some peoplemight watch it over and over
again.
I could see other people likethat, but horror's not my genre
and typically is never going toget a super high rewatchability.
So I'll give it a 3.5.
And that's going to be a prettysolid score.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, we got a good score coming here.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Honestly, I could rewatch clips of this movie.
I bet I would rewatch clips ofit.
There's another movie, clips ofit there's.
There's another movie I don'tknow if you guys have heard of
valerian and the world of athousand cities or whatever.
Uh, it was not a good, not agood movie.
I can't watch that whole moviebut I can watch the intro scene

(36:23):
with, like them meeting aliensand like having this goodwill
like between species goingforward through like ages and
ages.
I could watch that scene likethat.
I have watched that scene likeprobably like 50 times.
I love that.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, so I can see myself watching scenes from this
movie.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
I think that there's especially, like, like you know, in the
middle, in the, in the meat ofit, I feel like there's some
really just like drags you in,like you're, you're really taken
away by by the movie.
But that gives it an officialhigh and dry score of 4.5 out of

(36:59):
five.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I think that's the highest rated movie.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
That's the highest rated movie on high and dry.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
And I thought I honestly thought it was going to
get something around that.
Yeah, I, I really did think itwas.
I gave it, when I gave it, mypersonal score, it ended up with
a 4.5 out of 5 and I doubtedthat you guys would have not.
At least like, like I said, Ithought the cinematography
acting and score were likesomething that is hard to really

(37:25):
really take away from.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
So yeah, yeah, we need to.
We need to review the firstTotal Recall with you, luke, so
we can get one up here with afive, because bet you we have
five on this board, all right.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Well, total Recall aside, obviously everyone's
favorite film, let's dive intothe second part of this.
It is time to get onto thegolden path.
I know I'm feeling it, but I'mready to feel a little more.
Let's line them up.
It's time for our final shot,final hit, Final toast of the

(38:02):
night.
This one goes to high and driesfirst, 4.5.
Cheers.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Cheers.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Way to go, sinners ryan kugelmeister, you did it
again kugelmeister you crazy sonof a bitch, it's all your
german anti-american sentimentwe've.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
we've subsumed him and turned and co-opted him for
whiteness.
You're now German, germanwhiteness.
Wait, hold on.
Kugler might actually be German.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Let's pull it up.
Hold on, let's have us a lookhere.
You're on trial now,kugelmeister.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
We're going to have to cut this.
There's nothing good can comeof this.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I'll look it up all right, so we'll talk about it
later.
So let's dive into the secondpart.
It's time to get on the goldenpath.
Oh my god, it is german son ofa bitch.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's an americanized version.
It's an americanized version ofthe surname Kugler K U G.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
L E.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
R I knew.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I knew it sounded German.
I called that shit, I'm notcutting it, so all right.
So we're on the golden path.
For those of you who don't getthe dune reference, that's what
it is.
So what are the deeper thoughtswe have behind this film?
Who'd like to kick it?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
off, I think, luke, thoughts we have behind this
film.
Who'd like to?

Speaker 3 (39:35):
kick it off.
I think luke should kick it off, because we went the other way
last time.
Yeah, I I had.
Uh.
First of all, I noticed the thesame thing as you, ryan, with
the irish, um kind of like irishsentiment versus the um
african-american culture, likeboth migrants to the united
states, um and the the battlebetween them that did kind of
kind of happen.
I completely agree.
But I also noticed that they Idon't know if you guys they

(39:59):
filmed this in Louisiana and abig reason for that was that it
was supposed to be on land andwith heritage of Nate, of
African-American people andstuff like that.
So I do think that the directorwas trying to very much um pull
from that heritage andrepresent that culture

(40:22):
throughout the movie and I thinkthat he he did it very well.
Um, and then I also uh knowthat this was a movie that he
it's supposed to represent hiskind of like, the like curses
and the old family curses andthings like that, and it's
supposed to like show how likemonsters are attracted like good

(40:47):
things.
I think like it, it shows likeif you're you know, if you like
have a good like even though youhave a good thing, and like it
shows like if you're, you knowif you like have a good like,
even though you have a goodthing and like it's it's pure,
but it's like can attractmonsters.
I think like that's somethingthat it does in its storytelling
.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, it's kind of like a you have to be protective
of things that are valuable.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, yes, and I and I really I feel like that.
You know they create like itwas immediately, like they first
night opening night and alreadylike pieces of shit trying to
get in and fuck the entire placeup.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
We see the value in this, and so the Ku Klux Klan is
here to stop put an end to that.
Put an end to that.
You know, I thought it was veryinteresting.
You know the point you broughtup about, um.
You know the irish, the irishportion, and how they were
historically pitted against eachother.
But in this movie, you knowthere's both sides of this

(41:43):
conflict.
Believe in an amalgamation?

Speaker 1 (41:48):
yes, because right and they did both sides, did
both sides I mean not evenamalgamation yeah, and not even
to say sides.
I mean, it's terrible to evenconsider groups of human beings
sides.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Well, one was a demon , like that was a side.
There's a clear side.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Well, obviously, but I'm saying in terms of the
metaphor of those cultures beingpitted against each other.
Sure, um, so like I that, but Istill appreciate that they paid
a lot of respect to thisvampire's culture.
Yeah, um, and that that told mea lot about where the mindset

(42:30):
was of this film.
Um, they made him reallyinteresting until he's this
ancient vampire who forgets.
Told me a lot about where themindset was of this film.
They made him reallyinteresting, until he's this
ancient vampire who forgets thatthe sun comes up.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Jesus Christ yeah.
I was so confused by that too.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
So here's a little thing that might you might like
this explanation, but this isthey didn't do a lot to point
this out, but that he, you knowthis vampire is really, really
after that, pure talent, like hementioned it earlier, but it
may be, so consuming to him totry to get this pure talent that
he loses sight of other things.

(43:04):
Things did start to getdesperate toward the end.
Like you said, there is a shiftwhere the vampires start to
seem more desperate and thepeople inside start to seem like
superheroes, which is likefucking what?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
But?

Speaker 2 (43:19):
the vampires did seem more desperate.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
The desperation is warranted almost.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Dude, it's not, though.
He's only got to wait 12 hours.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Sure, how far are you going to move sure, but how far
are you gonna move?
He talked about this puretalent that like bridged the gap
between the, the present andhistory and the world of you
know, the spiritual world, andso think about the kind of
desire you you have thoughtabout, how vampires age over
millennia, the kind of desireand possessiveness, and they can

(43:51):
, but if they can lose sight ofthings, but if he aged this
point, that means he's a vampirewho was able to overcome it
stumped.
Not everybody can alwaysovercome all of their problems
all the time you know, after athousand years.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I hope you have made a good effort he made a great
effort.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Look how long he survived but.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
But then it also drives, drives me crazy.
He's coming at, uh, um, michaelb jordan with claws and shit
like that.
At the end, right there, itlike dude, just fucking kill him
, you're, you're more thancapable, just do it.
He wants him too.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
So it's like, it seems like it seems like he
doesn't actually want to killanybody.
He wants to convert them andthat's the thing that I wanted
to talk about.
I hate plot armor, sure.
Yeah Well, that's why we wereall rated the plot lower, you
know, than everything else inthis movie.
But one thing that I foundreally interesting about the
methods of amalgamation thatthey did.

(44:50):
So you know, the, the, the, thegroup inside the bar, what was
it called?
Again, luke, you said, uh, thegroup inside.
No, the juke, that's what it'scalled oh, the juke yeah yeah,
yeah.
so the all the people inside thejuke like their amalgamation
was shared and voluntary, butthe vampire slash white culture.

(45:15):
In its amalgamation it wasconsumptive in a way that it
required it to change in orderto be acceptable in a
non-cooperative, non-consentingway, and I think that that was a

(45:37):
really powerful message thatthey wove into those concepts of
amalgamation.
It's almost like kind of acriticism of liberalism or the
melting pot Everybody getsmelted in, but it's melted into
a pot.
That's white culture, which Ifound very interesting.

(45:57):
I don't know what you guys think.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Very good message layered in.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, did you guys pick that up, or is it just me?
Am I just?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Well, so I saw that as well and I did, just just
because of the very, veryspecific choice of making the
vampire irish.
I did look it up, okay look upwhat he was trying, um, because
I was on like, are you trying tosay something here, like we've
been saying?

(46:25):
And he was.
He was trying to say that, oh,can I guess, please.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Well, so I'm sure there was part of it.
That was, you know, the.
You've already mentioned theclassical pitting Irish people
against each other.
Is it kind of here?
Here's what I guess, becausethis is how I kind of interpret
quickly.
Is it about, like, white peopleusing irish people as a screen

(46:52):
to protect themselves?
It is okay, I picked that upyeah, I did.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
I did as well, and that's why I had to look into it
, because it was just such aperfect um selection of what he
should be um.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
But yeah, that's exactly what it was because
every time someone talks aboutlike the problems that black
people went through and theproblems that Hispanic people
and they, yeah, they're likewell, I'm Irish, the Irish.
Yeah, Well, I white people weretreated just like this, and uh,
I hear that.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Yeah, One group was yes, you are.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, that's what I got.
That's, I did pick that up.
Did you pick that up, luke, oris that something?
I mean 100%?
Yeah, okay, good, okay.
So it seems like it really wasable to transmit that message
strong to a broad audience,because we have different

(47:48):
backgrounds, you know, yeah, andthat message is able to cross
lines, so that's good, it's goodto know.
Yeah, uh, and, and that thatmessage is able to cross lines,
so that's good, it's good tohear.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
I feel like the director was being very specific
with it, like, like Ryan said,I feel like Ryan Coogler was
like trying to kind of likethrow it in your face.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Yeah, yeah, like sure .

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Not in a bad way, though, like not, yeah, not in a
bad way either, like it was.
It like is a pretty easy, clearmessage to uh, you know, to
throw out there, but I do thinkit was like meant to be thrown
in your face and meant to beokay, loud, cool.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I'm glad that we were able to get so much out of this
movie.
Okay, go ahead, ryan.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Sorry, well, my last point with uh, the Golden Path
was you guys waited till the endof the credits, right?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
No, what happened at the?

Speaker 1 (48:37):
end of the credits.
Yeah, I did.
Where there's a post-creditsscene Jordan Vampire and his
girlfriend show up.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Oh yeah, at late in the future, old Okay yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
And they retained a level of humanity.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah there's no problem with being a
vampire.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Everyone should have been a vampire yeah, and just
get to be immortal and awesomeand then he even hugged him like
it was no big fucking thing,yeah, and so why are we all
vampires, right?
Well, and so my thing was Idon't know you're an old vampire
, whatever do you forget?
Well, because the, the mastervampire died, right?

(49:21):
So was it because the mastervampire died, or was there a
message there saying, um, thatit becomes very easy for you to
feel that converting people toyour side is the right thing to
do?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I mean the thing, is.
That's a great observation yousaid earlier, like hive mind, or
James said earlier, hive mind,right, and it kind of reminds me
of something we've seen in alot of different animes where
chimera ants if the queen dies,a lot of different animes where
chimera ants if, like the queendies, a lot of the worker ants
like will part, like go, starttrying to do their own shit, um,

(49:59):
even if there is a king ant orwhatever, like a lot of them
will follow, but like um, and Ithink that maybe potentially
that's why, like I think yousaid it like when the leader
died like they're like, oh well,I do, I guess we don't have to
be fucking crazy racist whitepeople, like we can just be cool
, immortal people, like this isfucking awesome, and so

(50:21):
potentially broke off the hivemind, if you believe Remick.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
He says that everybody still gets to be
themselves and gets to havetheir autonomy.
He's like it's just better overhere.
It's not about autonomy.
He's like it's just better overhere, it's not about being me
or anything, it's just betterover here.
Um, I don't know, I don't know.
They, they didn't make it clearthat that joining that, joining
the side of the whiteamalgamation is necessarily bad,

(50:48):
you know?
Uh, just that it happened yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
So I mean, is it, was it a hive mind, can you believe
?

Speaker 2 (50:57):
he give up?
Did he give up hit part ofhimself to be a vampire?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
we don't know or was it just?
It's very easy to attempt tobring other people to your side,
um by force yeah, because whenwe see him again, um he uh, for
the the time period where we seethem in the future and
everything like that, their,their styles and choices of how

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they're presenting themselves.
I mean even his uh, his ringyeah um, it was all very
stylized, very like I have a lotof autonomy, um, I, you know,
you know there's no mastervampire going like fucking do
yourself up, dude, here's uh,here's, uh, here's three
thousand dollars hit the nearest.

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Uh, uh, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Um so, but he did, but I think it was a
representation of abandoning thepast, you know, like he
abandoned his culture in orderto be subsumed into current
culture, a culture that is, eventhough there are black
influences, dominated by whitepeople and the script, the, the

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filter that white people use totake black influences and make
it more digestible to aprimarily white audience.
Yeah, um, I don't know it.
He didn't, he didn't try toconvert sammy at the end exactly
so I don't know.
I think that that message kindof fell flat at the end.

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I don't know what the end wastrying to tell me yeah, but it
was, it was compelling.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah, it was like we should all be vampires which I
don't think was supposed to behis message.
Yeah, so I mean, that's why Ididn't get a five.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
That's why I didn't get a five.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
That's why it's a 4.5 .

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, that's why it's a 4.5.
Yeah, I feel weird aboutpost-credit scenes.
I don't know how much I shouldconsider them part of the movie,
because they didn't make themovie.
Cutting Room Floor, you know.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
I didn't really feel like it was.
I just thought it was a funscene.
I don't know why.
That's what I felt.
That's all.
I took it as.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
There was no message.
It didn't match the tone of therest.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yeah, but it was entertaining, the same thing
when all of a sudden it was afucking Buffy film.
Yeah, that's true.
I changed my score.
Two out of five we got thescore.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
We can't argue about it anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
I'm obviously kidding .
It's time to get to the finalportion of this.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
It's our job to nitpick right it's our job to be
like what do we get out of thismovie and where?
Where does it not do it?

Speaker 3 (53:43):
uh, great movie though yeah, very good, should
watch 100 you should watch fourout of five, I mean 4.5.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
So um, our final portion.
Here.
It's time to insert ourselvesinto the film.
How would this movie change?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
listen, I don't like that.
I already know that you'relaughing at me.
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I don't think that's fair well how would this movie
benefit from three extra whitemen?
I you know the.
The world is dying to know.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Given, given the time , I would probably be one of the
racists to that point can I?
I loved that the, the klu kluxklan piece of shit was killed

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with the chicago typewriter.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah yeah, I loved it .
Yeah, I loved it, but yeah, goon.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Oh no, I wouldn't be a racist, that was a joke.
Uh, I'd be one of the.
I'd be one of the music playerswho got changed for the family
who took him in.
Oh no, they were racist.
Hold on, all the white peoplein this movie were racist, all
of them.
I would be the least racistperson played by Haley Steinfeld

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, who was.
I would fall in love withMichael.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
B.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Jordan was, I would fall in love with Michael B
Jordan.
I would have a passionateaffair with Michael B Jordan and
be turned into a vampire.
First Because I was like don'tworry, guys, I'm white.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
I know how to handle this.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
This sounds like exactly something I'd do.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
And then go get turned.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah, and then I'd be like, oh right, yeah, okay,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
I'm here to.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I'm here to betray all of you.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, classic classic white guy.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
All right um luke, how about you?
Um, I would like to think thatit's.
It's me in there, not me fromthe past, so, um I wouldn't be
racist.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Well, yeah, no, it was.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
It's an insertion of yourself as you are right now so
, yeah, I would, um, I wouldprobably be a vampire, let's you
know I would be, but I would belike no, I would explain it
better.
Be like no, it's just like dude, I'm dude, I love you.
I wish I could come in rightnow, like I just want to party
with you guys, but you don'thave to kill anybody.

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It's this fucking dude.
He's crazy.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I can't stop following his orders.
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
I just can't stop following his orders.
So I just have to follow himaround, and I don't usually kill
anybody.
So I just have to follow themaround and I don't usually kill
anybody.
Sorry that that happens.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
That's a side effect.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
That's a side effect, but you know it's.
It's up to you guys Wait tillthe sun comes out or or join.
It's kind of cool, you don't.
You can be a good person outhere, but you're just immortal.
So and then you know, maybe,maybe the movie would change.
We'd get a few more people tojust join in.
It would be like us smokingbecause I would have brought Ace

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.
Pinchura and we're just blowingtheir minds.
We're getting stoned as shit,and then they're obviously
having their Irish.
We're just kind of like, oh,vibing out to the music.
It's a good time for us, it'sjust a good time, laura, yeah.
And then we actually just gooff into the darkness before the
sun comes out, because we'renot morons.
And then, when they all die,we're just like, oh, we're freed
.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
And then we also live life, just our normal lives.
Yeah, yeah for me.
Yeah, obviously a vampire, Iwould have signed up for that a
long time ago.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Yeah, you actually time traveled.
You time traveled to beforethis movie.
You went back to like 1400s,ireland or whatever.
And then you made Remick You'reactually Remick's sire and you
come into this movie as the mostpowerful vampire.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Yeah, and then I'm just there, going like what an
idiot.
What the fuck is wrong with you.
I knew that biting you was abad idea.
You know it felt a little weirdwhen I did it.
You know, you're the first dude.

(58:08):
I bit like that.
It hasn't sat right with me thewhole time.
Um and uh.
I'm like could you leave thesefucking nice people alone?
What the hell is wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (58:22):
jesus, why are you doing this?

Speaker 1 (58:24):
and and then I'll explain.
Like my brother in christ um,the sun will go down again.
He doesn't have a car we canjust come back.
We can come back, man, it'sokay, it's okay, um, and then I
would just kill him because thatwas a mistake, obviously, um

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you kill him.
You wouldn't even let him diefrom the sun coming up you
wouldn't even let him die fromthe sun coming up like now.
I've seen enough.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yeah, I, I, you know sometimes, sometimes, you make a
bad one and so you kill him.
And then just look at michael bjordan.
Be like children, am I right?

Speaker 2 (59:06):
this, like this desperate loser who, yeah,
couldn't find community.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Uh-huh, I'm like you guys have a good one.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Take it easy.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
And oh no.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I got a bunch of friends.
I had tons of friends Like.
This guy was the only one whowas like not a friend.
I was like checking up on himbecause he's out here all alone
all the time.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yeah, and he went to fucking the rural south of the
United States in the 30s.
Um, he could have gone anywhereand yeah, so I I felt weird
about him from the beginning.
I'd like to apologize to you.
Uh, your lovely girlfriend, uh,your wife.
Uh, take it easy, I'm gonna gobe a badass immortal and then I

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would use.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
You still have to worry about those kkk guys.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
I I saw actually, you know what you don't have to
worry about those kkk guys.
That one's on me um, and Iwould slaughter them, um, like
fucking pin them in trees andshit like that.
I would use that sweet assjumping power that he only used
at the end.
For some reason, his power keptfluctuating based on the needs

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of the storyline and I wouldleap away into the darkness with
my horde of I mean honestly,probably beautiful women, and
off we went.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
That sounds like a pretty good movie.
4.5, yeah, roll credits 4.5.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yeah, real credit, it's 4.5.
Yep, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
That's a very elaborate story.
You changed the entire movie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
If he could end every story with him being a vampire
with a harem of hot vampirewomen.
That's how every movie wouldend every one of them, every one
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Uh fucking notebook twilight.
Uh, fucking spider's wifecoming zookeeper's wife,
zookeeper's wife hey man, Iapologize, I'm a badass vampire.
These are my lovely brides.
We out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
This movie was dumb this movie no 4.5 out of5 50
first dates yeah, all of themevery movie we know.
I don't know if luke knew, butI knew sounds like a pretty I
mean good film, though yeah,it's solid film.

(01:01:44):
Solid film it's like the fastand furious just make 10 of them
, fuck it just load them up,let's do this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Uh, even those films, though.
I would appear at the end andbe like yeah, hey, what's going
on?
I'm a badass immortal.
That's just the end of everymovie it's the post-credits
scene, just you talking aboutyourself how awesome you are.
Yeah, it's still awesome, it'sstill still fucking awesome,

(01:02:16):
still reminds fucking awesome itreminds me of?

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
have you guys seen paul rudd on conan o'brien like?
Like they do clips of it on theinternet.
They share it sometimes onreddit and stuff.
But like paul rudd has been onconan o'brien like eight times
and every time he comes on everytime he comes on he plays a
clip.
Uh, like he's like here's.
Here's a clip from my movie andwhat plays is a scene from the

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movie mac and me, which was amcdonald's promotion, with a
whistling alien like theweirdest alien ever, and it's
like of a kid going careeningdown a hill in a wheelchair and
then he goes flying off intothis like canyon and then lands
in in water and then an aliensits up and goes and uh, I would

(01:03:03):
.
That's like what ryan would doto every movie if he could yeah
because, at the end it would bethe same
clip of him with his vampirehair on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Yeah, this is my vampire hair.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Everybody would be like, ooh, I wonder what the end
of this movie is.
At the end of every one he wasable to, he'd just have that
scene.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Avengers 2.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Fuck Ryan again, morbius.
Two fucking all of them.
Fuck ryan again, morbius.
It's like the uh, it's like thenicole kidman intro to amc
theaters.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
I was like god damn it, they got me, they fucking
got me.
How many films does this guyown?
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
oh shit all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
It's all me, all me baby, all right, well, so hey,
there you have it, folks, umsolid film 4.5 uh one of the
highest rated ones.
Yeah, give it a watch.
Yeah, absolutely fantastic topto bottom, um, except for when
whistler from blade shows up.
That was a little weird, uh,other than that incredible.

(01:04:13):
So hey, uh, thank you sinners.
Thank you, michael b jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Thank you, uh, german guy all right, googler german
guy, oh no uh, here's to you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Um, thanks everyone for listening.
This is high and dry.
I'm your host, ryan barronnorth, with, as always, luke
james croslin.
Bye.