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June 5, 2025 43 mins

What if you could literally outsmart your mortgage—and every other debt you owe—using a system as intuitive as your GPS? In this episode of High Octane Real Estate, Pam Orzan sits down with Rich Schaffer of United Wealth, a self-proclaimed "recovering financial planner" who's flipping the script on traditional debt management. Rich shares how his revolutionary financial software helps everyday people—from first-time buyers to real estate investors—eliminate debt faster, pay significantly less interest, and gain total control over their financial future.

Packed with humor, real talk, and powerful insights, this episode dives into the myths we’ve been sold by banks, the psychological traps keeping us stuck, and why saving money isn’t just math—it’s mindset. Whether you're drowning in debt or just want to buy your next home smarter, this conversation will leave you feeling informed, inspired, and ready to run toward financial freedom.


Contact Pam Orzan:
Email: pam@coastallivingsouthflorida.com
Website: www.CoastalLivingSouthFlorida.com
Instagram: highoctanerealestatepodcast
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pamrealestate

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