December 7, 2023 • 60 mins
Ever wondered about the intricacies of crafting top-notch solventless cannabis products? Get set to glean some wisdom, as we take a fascinating journey into the world of cannabis with Sean and Charlie, the founders of Astrolab. Located in Alberta, Canada, they have unlocked the secret to perfecting solventless extraction processes, focusing on washing fresh, frozen material and squishing it into live rosin. Listen as they share their unique journey, including their decision to focus solely on processing, which allows them to run a highly efficient facility.
As we journey deeper, you'll uncover the challenges of staying true to their ethos in a market that often prioritizes high THC content over quality. You'll find your notions challenged, and learn about the need to shift consumer preferences towards quality. We'll also unveil the importance of sourcing from organic outdoor farms, a key ingredient to creating premium solventless products. Their story is a testament to the hard work and dedication necessary to excel in the cannabis industry.
Finally, we'll engage in a stimulating discussion around hash and rosin, exploring their differences and the complexities of processing each. Our guests also introduce Frooty Hooty, a new brand that infuses distillate with live rosin, creating a unique twist on live rosin cartridges. We'll wrap up with a deep dive into consumer behavior, exploring personal preferences, and the popularity of intriguing strains like Violator Kush. Whether you're a seasoned veteran or just dipping your toes into the cannabis industry, this episode is guaranteed to enlighten and entertain.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Minus 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 8 inches.
Start 4, 3, 2, 1.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm Sean and I'm Charlie.
This is higher orbit.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I just love the mess of that.
I don't know Different cadenceevery time.
We got a night show tonight.
Some great guests this evening.
I'm going to try.
Well, actually, I guess, robbieFisher, that's easy enough to
introduce.
You nailed it, mark Vittur.
Yeah, easy enough, vittur yeah.
Vittur.
Okay, there you go.
Got to correct me that wasclose enough.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I mean, you're not going to get any better than
that in Alberta.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Fair enough, A couple of boys from out west.
They're dropping by for kindand then down to Vegas to rip
some sweet cannabis conferences.
Welcome to the show guys.
We're happy to have you andtalk about how All things
solvent less than hash related.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I believe right.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Yeah, Thank you so much.
Thanks for having us guys.
We're really excited to joinyou.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, man, let's get right into it.
Man, where is your facility?
I mean Alberta you mentioned.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
So yeah.
So Mark and I both live inCalgary.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
And our facility is in Rocky View County.
Rocky View, it's about fiveminutes west of Erdrey, okay,
about 10 minutes north ofCalgary, okay.
So it's just outside citylimits, it's in the country,
it's a beautiful almost 20-acreproctority that we have and,
(01:47):
yeah, it's kind of in therolling foothills.
You can see the mountains inthe background on a clear day.
Yeah, there's been a lot ofdifferent iterations of
businesses that were conjured upand run from that facility
there and over the years it justslowly changed and morphed and
(02:09):
finally was turned into an LP.
How long have you guys beendoing this?
So we took over the facility inJanuary of 2022.
Okay, and so it was two and ahalf years that we ran the
facility for before we were ableto launch our first branded
(02:32):
products ourselves.
So our first brand that welaunched was Astrolab, and that
was this summer, in June.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's fucking awesome man.
Yeah, I mean I was tellingCharlie that as soon as we saw
your brand, I was kind of sayingthat it almost seemed like they
would be in the same universeor something Like.
They're fucking like, if therewas a Quentin Tarantino movie,
there would be Cosmic Charlie'sand Astrolab would be the
producer right and we would sellit in the dispensary.
So I immediately kind ofgravitated towards it.
(03:02):
I really love the style and howdid you guys kind of come up
with Astrolab and how did thatcome about?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
So Astrolab the brand was created.
We were kind of spitballingideas for different names.
We definitely wanted to choosesomething that was going to be
fun, not too serious.
We actually played around withthe idea of just calling
ourselves Astrolab first.
Cool, and I personally liked it.
(03:32):
I thought of the cartoon AstroBoy growing up as a kid.
That's what I think of, youknow.
I think of those rocket bootsthat he had Every time I take a
dab, that's what I want to bedoing Fist in the air, taken off
into outer space.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You totally man, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
So yeah, I was always into it and then eventually it
evolved into Astrolab and wekind of had visions of the old
what is it from the Houston NASAcompound.
(04:13):
They had an old schoolstreamliner RV that used to
drive the astronauts to and fromthe rockets and we kind of
imagined having that as the lab.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Okay, rv, you have like breaking bad stuff?
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
But with a sort of Astro twist or Like the DeLorean
.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Reap Force as an RV.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
we'll say so I think that is how you're thinking.
It's like Creeful Dead meetsBreaking Bad.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You love that man.
That's fucking sick.
Making a hash rosin on the flyI like it Exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And where did the obsession with like?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
solvent lists come from.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I know like solvent lists is your fucking passion.
That's like what you guys arein this for.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
So, yeah, the parent LP that we both work for it's
called Simply Solvent ListConcentrates Limited, okay, and
so, like I said, since we tookthe facility over almost three
years ago now, we've been doinga lot of solvent list extraction
work.
So our main two processes thatwe do when we bring input
(05:25):
material in, so we don't growanything ourselves we're not
cultivators, got it.
We do have the cultivationlicense at our facility.
We could, in the future, lookat doing that, but we kind of
just wanted to focusspecifically on doing solvent
list extraction and doing it atscale.
Okay, cool.
(05:45):
So it's a rather large facilitythat we have 35,000 square feet,
we have nine labs, and so, inorder to keep the place running,
keep the lights on and keepeveryone working, we got to be,
you know, producing a lot.
So processing every day,multiple rooms.
(06:06):
We do a lot of infusedpre-rolls and packaging.
But, yeah, the first twoprocesses that are kind of our
staples when we're bringinginput material in is we're
either taking fresh, frozen andwe're washing it in our ice
water extraction cold lab, okay,and we're taking that wet
(06:29):
bubble, throwing it into freezedryers and then collecting the
dry bubble once it's finished inthe freeze dryer and then from
there we can take that bubbleand we can use that as an input
for infused pre-rolls orproducts, or we can process it
(06:52):
further by squishing it intolive rosin.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I think that's awesome.
I think I missed that.
I didn't realize that you justdo the processing.
So that's smart that you knownot having to take care of
everything, and I guess justfocusing on what material you
want to work with kind of takesout.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, less capital tied up and growing flour, which
is variable, and time energy,all that shit right.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Totally, and when we first took over the facility, we
purchased it from another LPwho kind of grew out of it into
a larger space, and when wefirst took it over, part of the
deal was inheriting a lot oftheir old material that they had
stockpiled and weren't able tosell on their own, and so it was
(07:37):
a great starting point for usto be able to start processing
at mass scale Crazy that's acool opportunity.
And then, you know, cut ourteeth and learn how to survive
just doing B2B transactions withother LPs, so selling our
products in bulk.
So the other main process thatwe do, besides our ice water
(08:01):
extraction, is collecting drysift.
So we have tumblers that we use.
So we'll take you know, we cantake small nugs flour or even
just trim and other materiallike that they call.
You know, extract gradematerial and we'll tumble it in
(08:24):
our tumblers with dry ice andcollect the Keef or dry sift
that makes its way through thedifferent mesh screen sizes that
we have.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Fuck me, that's a cool shim Sheesh.
That's impressive.
I'm going to go with that one.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Right, I mean the infused pre-rolls are very
popular right now.
It's a huge category in thelegal market and a lot of them
you'll see, you know, Keef ordry sift just coated on the
exterior of the joints.
A lot of the infuse Clot-topsfrom you guys.
Yeah, you know there's plentyof producers out there making it
(09:02):
, but it's one of our stapleproducts that we use to further,
you know, make like ourold-school gummy hash.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That we have.
I really enjoyed that.
You can't mind.
You gave me a sample that lasttime.
I wanted to let you know I wassuper happy with it.
Yeah, man, yeah, so nobilitybuzz.
It burned really great.
I've heard nothing but goodthings about it, and especially
at the price point.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
And again coming from Astrolab, it's a solventless
product.
So the way we make our gummyhash is we take that dry sift
that we'll pull from ourtumblers and then we'll mix it
with our live rosin.
Okay, nice, at a specific ratiothat makes that really nice,
(09:50):
malleable gummy like.
That's why we call it the gummyhash Very cool, because it's
really fun to play with and, youknow, roll into a snake if
that's your thing.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'm going to tell you that's you're mixing live rosin
and bubble hash and that andgetting it to that texture.
Sorry, not bubble hash.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Sorry, Sometimes we'll work sometimes we'll work
a little bit of our bubble hashin there as well, okay, but most
of the time the main twoingredients are our live rosin
and our dry sifter Keef.
There you go, nice.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And that's it 100% solventless.
I was a big fan of it, which isa huge differentiator.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Sorry, I didn't mean to speak over there.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, no, no go for it, Robby man, You're good.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
But, you know, compared to a lot of the other
old school hashes that are outthere, you know they're made in
part by mixing in distillate,which you know, not to say that
ours is actually made how theywere making hash, you know, a
thousand years ago or anythinglike that.
We've progressed.
We'd like to think that our,our hash is is a little bit of a
(10:54):
better, cleaner product, right,but but certainly similar.
So so a lot of the old schoolheads kind of love it because it
brings them back.
And, like you said, the pricepoint two grams over 40% THC for
under $30.
It's a smoke and deal andthere's so many different ways
that you can use it.
(11:14):
There really is.
You know, our ethos or ourmission statement at AstroLab is
solventless exploration for all, and so you know what we've.
What we were thinking of whenwe came up with that is that
we're going to provide thesesolventless products in a bunch
of different formats so thatpeople can enjoy them regardless
(11:36):
of whether or not they have arig at home.
It's not just going to bedabbing, but infused pre-rolls,
old school gummy hash.
We have a product out here inOntario that's a milled cannabis
Okay, infused with live rosin,and it just comes, oh my god,
dime baggy, and then, and thenwe sell it with a disposable
(11:57):
one-hitter.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
That's kind of cool.
That takes us back.
For some of us that reallytakes us back because back in
the day when you could smoke ina bar, people, you'd bring your
one-hitter and your inhabit inyour pocket so you'd be in the
bar and everybody would besmoking ciggies in there.
And you just get a good dippingin your pocket and he's smoking
.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
What is that smell before?
I don't know what you'retalking about.
You just lit up a cigarette.
Afterwards fire, right yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So for me it's like something that you know, it's
like that's what we're havingfun with when we were, you know,
like 18, 19 years old.
Now bird, it's 18 and now it'sa commercial product.
It's just kind of mind-blowingthat this is where we're at with
it now, you know yeah, I thinkit is an interesting idea.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I mean, we saw early on there was it was kind of like
a turpent fuse and I mean we'reseeing a lot of that actual
Definitely been intrigued to seemore these use out of this guy.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
True to flower.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, products like that, I don't know.
I, I'm, I feel like I know whatyour guys opinion would be, but
like we're seeing a lot of thatin the market and I guess, how
do you just continue to staytrue?
I mean, it's in your ethos,really, but I'm sure you have
like let's say I'll I'm not LPs,provincial providers or
(13:18):
wholesale sellers like lookingfor these products that are like
Definitely different than yourvibe.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Let's say yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, solvent list
is definitely a Weaker categoryin terms of the, the number of
Participants in it, the numberof providers that are offering
those sorts of products to thelegal market.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So you know, that's just like an education thing.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
I Do think so in part .
Yes, because I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'm obviously the more educated you know Consumer
and I fucking love this shitthat you guys are doing, but how
come like?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
we often get told we're the favorite brand in
Alberta amongst the bud tendersof Alberta.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I Though.
But I mean, it's a great placeto be recommending you guys at
least right, totally, totallybut at the end of the day
there's still Different orseparate from the consumer.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Okay, yeah that's right.
That is, that is still morecoming into the store, that's
looking for the best bang fortheir buck and in and in their
mind and in their estimation,they think that means highest
THC Value for the lowest per perdollar.
Yeah, you know.
(14:42):
And then and it's you know, noone goes into a liquor store and
says what's your highest giveme the 151.
If it's cheap and it's in hishigh alcohol content.
That's what I want.
Give it to me.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
No I mean there are some people like that it's an
unfortunate trend.
I hope it's just that a trend,because I mean it'll take time,
like anything.
It's still an immature market.
So, yeah, it's changing, it'schanging.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I think it like, let's be real about it, a lot of
people that are buying jars arestill buying legacy jars.
Yeah, that too.
So I feel like you know we'recoming with a product that's
really good.
I think you know people like it, I think the heads really
respected and the price is goodon it.
So you know we're gonna getpeople coming into the stores
(15:34):
that haven't been coming intothe stores.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, again, solventless exploration for all.
Yeah, we didn't want to haveour products be at price points
that the average consumercouldn't afford.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, when you guys are like looking for products to
it being sourced elsewhere.
Are you going to see the grow?
Are you going to see, like,pick up packs, like what's,
what's that process?
Speaker 5 (15:55):
So so, yeah, definitely in the in the earlier
First couple years, we did alot of touring of a ton of
different facilities.
Yeah, we've we've worked with afew different LPs providers.
We're not as strict when we're,when we're tumbling and
collecting dry sift, yeah, butfor our fresh frozen We've
(16:19):
pretty much gotten the majorityof our material from one LP, one
provider, and it's all outdoorproducts.
So it's Actually now certifiedorganic the farm as a 2023.
So this year's crop iscertified organic.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Let's don't man, yeah , and you get a lot of chirps
that you can't get in door fromsome outdoor sun room bleaching
bed.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Right, it's, they're, they're large, whole, whole
plants that were, you know,harvested and then, flash frozen
, brought to our facility inreefer trucks.
You know, we're even, we'reeven super strict about how we
unload those trucks and and thetime in which it's, you know,
(17:01):
exposed to room temperaturebefore we get it into our
freezers where we're storing it.
Yeah, and then, and then, evenafter it gets into the facility
in OQ, a inspects it all, makesure that it's passes their,
their standards, and and then,boom, we'll start washing it as
(17:21):
quickly as possible and it'stiming like is that like a
brutal factor in the processingof it?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
like in the fresh frozen?
How much time do you have whenyou have a fresh frozen product
like that, like so?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
We've.
You know you can.
You can if it's, if it's frozenproperly, if it's harvested and
frozen properly, okay, you cankeep it for for a little while
before Before you wash it.
But I mean different.
I'm not the lead, has she'sshun at our facility.
I'm not the expert, so I don'twant to speak.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Who is?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
shut them out.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
So him or her, whatever.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Braden Macintyre is our, is our lead.
Has she shun?
And okay, all right, cool, Igot him saved in my phone is the
Messiah, because To me he isthe chosen one.
He and he's gonna lead us tothe promised land.
I truly believe that.
So, yeah, big ups to BradenMacintyre.
That guy works in incrediblyhard Since he started three
(18:24):
months before me.
So he started since the day wegot the keys to the facility and
they were just doing R&D atthat point I came in on March
27th, I believe and that was ourfirst day of commercial
production that that guy worksincredibly hard.
(18:44):
He's incredibly humble.
He's always Continuing to learn.
We're continuing to improve ourprocesses.
We don't think we're the bestat anything, but we do think
that we we want it really badand we're working really hard
for it and we're trying to,we're trying to change the game
here, essentially.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So, yeah, man, I think Charlie kind of pointed
that out.
Like you know, it's tough tohave a foot.
Well, it's just tough to have afocus on solving this when
everybody wants fucking generaladmission, dusting, dusty and
Dusty's and whatever the tastiesaren't, or 50% THC with the the
blueberry raspberry terps andit tastes like a jolly rancher.
Yeah, gross, but you knowitself.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, that's alright, things will change.
Market still new.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
We'll talk more about that cuz, like you know, we
have something to say about thattoo.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
We'll be right back hating.
Don't forget to follow.
At high-roar, I had a higherorbit, and at astralabs, at your
tag.
Astralab 710 on, I do a lab atastralab 710.
There you go.
We'll be right back with ourboys from Astralab.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
We are back with the astralabs boys and lots of rosin
talking to her.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I'm a shot.
What was Georgia pie flour withthe summer cherry punch in it?
It was good, very good.
Yeah, it turned out really good.
Cold out there, though I thinkthere's a little clogged issue
at the end, but that's neitherhere nor there.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
No, the clogged was at the beginning, it was clogged
at the end, mean you?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
figured it out.
There you go.
Where do we lift off?
We were kind of talking alittle bit botanical turf versus
you know right.
I'm wondering.
I mean, we don't really knowwhat's gonna happen, but how
would you feel if, let's say,legislation change, for Terps
not being allowed?
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I mean well for Astrolab.
It wouldn't really affect ustoo much, because the only
terpenes we have in the Astrolabproducts are derived from the
plant themselves.
So it's a part of the process.
It's all from the same oneingredient.
You know all of our, all of ourjar concentrates.
(21:13):
They're all single strains, sowe're not just doing a jungle
mix or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
A jungle mix.
I haven't heard that termbefore.
I like that, but I do thinkthat's weird because I've I've
heard other people being likeit's a mix of this and that and
I'm doing a live rosin and I'mlike that kind of defeats the
purpose, isn't it?
If you're going after somebodythat cares enough to want to,
you know, really experience thatstrain.
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I love that.
It's like the essence of theplant, you know.
Yeah, it's really capturing theessence of the garden, it's.
It tastes like the flowersmells, as opposed to.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You did, natalie, yeah, yeah, I think there's
something, too that peoplealways ask me like well, you dab
because you want to get reallyhigh, right, and I'm like, but
sometimes I actually feel likeyou are just experiencing more
of the essence of the plant tothat even more higher degree and
you're not carbonizing it, soyou're not getting that like
ashy taste, right?
Um, that's just.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, we're not smoking yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
We're not carbonizing it.
Nothing is being combusted.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, yeah.
So you're really like justunlocking so much flavor, I
guess is what I'm saying Chasingthe Terps, that's it so.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
so let's talk flavors .
What are your guys favoriteflavors?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Favorite probably like um, og and gas always over
here kind of.
That's like pretty much like ifyou're smoking yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Smoking or dabbing, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Still, that's what I look for.
Yeah, I guess that's like the.
You know, I guess that's whatI'm looking for, barnishing gas.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I think me and Sean have pretty similar tastes, yeah
.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Um, I like some of that cakey stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I like some fruity stuff too, Like fruity things
desserts are in right now, right?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Obviously, everybody seems to like things that are
sweeter Funki.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
it'd be nice sometimes, like on occasion, you
know, a little funky, likesomething real weird or like
what the fuck.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Anything.
Yeah, Weird GMOs sometimes canbe cool.
No, but that's funky, it'sweird yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
When I'm dabbing, I feel like I'm on the never
ending search Things.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't like For that new flavor.
Other terps you don't like.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
more importantly, For something I've never tasted
before, so that's if it's weirdor it's strange that's hot to me
.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
You know that's the new fire.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Something different, Because it's just like whoa,
what was that?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I'm not a huge fan of the Bioturp or like you know,
and it smells like someone's gymbag really, Like you know or
like that, with a little bit ofcappy, ammonia-y kind of thing.
Yeah, that's not for me.
Cute macabre piss.
Yeah yeah, I'm not going to eata piss.
And all those kinds of things,Even when it comes through like
it's supposed to, I'm just likenah take that To me there's
something kind of a feelingabout it.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I'm not going to lie in a weird way, I don't know,
now I'm with you that cat pissis one of the loudest, at least
like I've had in diamond andsauce form and man you open that
up, you know exactly what I'mtalking about.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
It's like a rocket up here.
You can smell it across theroom Like it's rude, yeah,
offensive.
Offensive.
It literally smells like,because I really I'm allergic to
cats, so I have a predisposedyou got like a fucking open cat
piss jar I've had somecats in my life that I ended up
liking anyways, but they gotsome work to do to make it into
(24:23):
my good books and I think one ofthe most disgusting smells in
the world is like the kittylitter box, especially if the
owner doesn't properly maintainit or whatever you gotta do yeah
, that's rough.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, that's definitely not good.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
And it's amazing that that is a smell that one of
these flowers can produce.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
It really is.
It's genetically in its makeup.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, it really is.
Every time it's gonna smelllike a cheetah's piss.
You got weird like pineapple.
It's like a sour fermentedpineapple in a way.
That's not what I think of.
I ended the piss a little bitbut like trying not to let your
head go there, fermentedpineapple, good call.
That's kind of what it is.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
To me.
I like the sweet herbs, thefruity herbs.
That's why I like our summercherry punch so much.
Another flavor we got on thepipeline coming up here,
hopefully, will be this purplepunch, and that's another.
It's a different kind of fruity.
It's kind of like a tart orangeOkay, like a sharp, sour, like
(25:27):
orange peel Very cool.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I'm wondering is a lot of the yield, like how do
you maximize yield or is itmostly down to the input?
Or I guess, as it depend onkind of the microns you're using
and depending on what you, howmuch plant matter you're using.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
It is, I think, in large parts strange specific.
But who you know, how it'sgrown is also very important,
and I know Brayden always talksabout intention in the garden.
So when you're growing with thepurpose or intention of washing
the whole time, that's why,like for those purposes, an
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outdoor garden is kind of likeunbeatable, because you know
that THC percentage isn't goingto be your main factor and you
know how Isn't potency?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I have a thing of the best way to say it is that THC
percentage doesn't equate topotency.
Well, and every geneticism Ithink that's the common myth
right that we're trying to bust,right, Correct Everybody, 100%.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I mean there's entourage effect.
There's, you know, there's theeffect of the different
terrapins.
Have you know?
We I think it was the Karma Cup.
I heard the winner of the KarmaCup this year was like under
15% THC or something like that.
Oh cool, so you know it's.
This whole idea you got to havethe highest THC to have the
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best weed is just wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
No, I think you're right, man, I think you're right
.
I always say I think we'reprobably the best.
Weed is probably around only 22to 23% THC of fat and just a
higher terp percentage, you know, and that's probably going to
this probably as as high as itneeds to be to get you pretty
fucking zuted.
I would say Just well-grownweed per se.
Can you guys?
disclose who you get your stufffrom or know.
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Is that top secret Mac and TireCreek fun.
Is that what it was?
I don't know if we shouted themout yet, Okay cool MCCI yeah,
that's dope Mac and Tire Creek.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Shout out to Quinn Shishin.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And there in Alberta as well.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
No, they're in the Okanagan, in BC Okanagan.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Okay, there you go Now connecting the dot.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Close to Penticton.
Close to Okanagan Falls.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah, we were lucky enough to get a tour the day
before they were doing crop outand they were the day before
they started their crop out aminute last month and it was
just incredible seeing the fieldof dreams.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You just tell them what they were doing.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Oh, just seeing the flowers and all their glory,
it's just unbelievable.
Totally Seeing.
Some of you know we were ableto see the purple punch and it's
just incredible.
It was like almost, I think,three meters some of them.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, the Okanagan Valley is beautiful.
If people don't know, you cangrow fucking anything there.
I think it's one of the veryfew places in the world actually
you can grow your round, if I'mnot mistaken.
I'm pretty sure Well, factslike that, but I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I mean they grow a lot of stuff there.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
That's for sure.
That's where all the wine comesfrom, and everything yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, which is pretty cool With respect to those guys
growing for you, do you reachout to them and you're like I
need this for hash, or justgoing and seeing what they're
already growing, and thenthey're like, hey, I got this
sweet girl for you guys.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
We when we first started working with them.
I mean, they have a lot ofcannabis, for sure.
They grow a lot of cannabis, andthey were harvesting and
freezing it right away because,whether it was for our purposes,
for solventless extraction orfor a hydrocarbon facility to
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use, that's the route that theywere going, and so I think they
were choosing strains that theywere hoping would work well for
those scenarios, and so we'vetest washed every lot or batch,
every different cultivar thatthey've grown each year to see
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which ones will produce the bestor work the best with us and go
from there, and definitely wecame together for sure because
it worked really well with morethan one of the strains that
they grew.
We had a lot of success withquite a few.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Do you guys know if there's something like different
you have to look for whenyou're trying to process outdoor
compared to, like you know,indoor?
I don't know.
I was just on me.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I mean yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Or whatever maybe, maybe this one.
I got a question.
Obviously like the hash you dabis quite different from like
rosin you would put into a cart.
Do you know the difference inkind of how those are processed
and made?
Is that a question for the hashmaster?
Speaker 6 (30:20):
I mean yeah, for sure we know.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
To a certain extent we can explain to layman mark.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
So I mean, the jars are cold, care, yeah, and so
basically, when we fill up, whenwe're filling up the cartridges
, we're basically doing it.
It's, it's similar to a sousvide type.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Well, so, yeah, so the cold care is what we'll put
in the jars for a jarconcentrate, but what we'll do
for the rosin sauce that we putinto our carts is Process it
further.
So we'll have it in those samejars, but we'll put those jars
into an oven and we'll cook itat a proper temperature, monitor
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it and Cook it down into arosin sauce that we can then use
in a cart.
But but there's certainly a lotmore to it than that.
And and Strain to straincertain cult of ours will work
better, and the hardware thatexists like Hardware needs to
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get better for sure, and there'slots of companies working hard
to try and make better hardwareand and and you know, we're
hopeful that it'll get betterand better, but there's a
there's a lot of things toconsider.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, the rosin is very taxing on the cartridges.
Yeah, you know the turp richand we've just you know we've we
had, we've had issues wherewe've switched into the C cell
evil and we were having a lotbetter luck with those.
They're working really well forus.
But yeah, the the technology'sgot to catch up.
(32:01):
It seems like a lot of we seeit in Canada, we see it in the
States.
It seems like everybody that'sgot a solvent list live rosin
cartridge are cutting it withdistillate and and that that's
kind of the solution to make thecartridge work.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
So you know, we, we at astral lab, we want to keep
the cartridges, we actually wantto keep them, solve the list,
we want them to be live rosinand if, if, that's what we're
advertising them, as that's whatwe're gonna, what we're gonna
put in and we've done our bestto make sure to like Make it
right with any customer who'shad a bad experience with the
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card, or even the retail storeslike yourselves you know if you
guys are having returns orwhatever will work with you to
make sure that we can rectifythe situation, get past it right
.
But but yeah, like Mark said,we've we've launched the new
pineapple orange peel here inOntario in the C cell Evo cart
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and so far we're seeing a muchbetter success with with those
guys and Sales have beenincreasing growing.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
So the people seem to be liking it better price point
to a little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, the price point is excellent.
Yeah, I think there are ourclients.
I'll seem to really like.
I'm for what it's worth, so wejust keep adding yeah yeah, it's
been nice to smoke and enjoy.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
We appreciate it as a part, I think.
I think at the end of the day,I think most people will come in
and get a cartridge like theyjust see it as Cartridge, like
they're not thinking about likejust live rosin, what they just
want a product that's strong,that smokes well, you know it's
like.
So I think, like if we can givethem a product that's it's
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gonna be a better quality andand we give it to them at a
price point that's similar to adisti Perfect, we're gonna start
getting some, some people thatyou know.
Okay, I'll try that out.
It's an accent when they try itout, it's like okay, well, um,
this is a lot better.
Hi, this is.
I'm not just going straight upand then crashing.
(34:05):
You know You're gonna get theentourage effect.
You're gonna.
You're gonna realize why.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Like are you talking about after a lab, right now?
Are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Well, I was talking about Astrolab, but.
But that's a good.
I mean you can tell the boysabout fruity hoodie.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
You take it, you take it.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I mean, we're kind of trying to flip the script a
little bit with with fruityhoodie.
It's a new brand We've justlaunched here, oh cool.
And what we're doing is is,instead of, you know, cutting
our live rosin cartridges with20% disti, we've cut disti
cartridges with 20% live rosinand We've formulaed, we've come
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up with a formula that I thinkis really really nice.
We were smoking it earlier.
The grape we got a grapewatermelon, coconut and peach
and I Think it's just gonna kindof bridge the gap for people.
You know, it's like people thatthat, like those fruity flavors
, it'll give them a taste oflive rosin and again, they're
gonna get.
(35:13):
They're gonna get a taste ofthe entourage effect.
They're gonna get a taste ofwhy we feel like live rosin is a
little bit better alternativefor people, right so yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
So we just launched fruity hoodie two weeks ago in
the Alberta with three flavorsof Dysolate vape cart.
So we have the pop and peach,the gargantuan grape and the
wild watermelon coconut and thatcomes in a one gram and a half
gram five ten threaded vape cartand it will be coming to
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Ontario in February along withthat distill infused pre-rolls.
But, like Mark said, it'sdistillate that's been amplified
with our live rosin right.
So so yeah, it's distillateproduct, it's got the Terps
right.
But hey, it's, it's whatselling, it's what the thing
it's, it's what the People areshowing us with their actions
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that they're looking for.
So we're not, we're not gonna beweed snobs here.
We're gonna give the peoplewhat we, what they want, and we
already have been, like I wastelling you guys before we
survived for two and a halfyears before we launched our
first brand.
So there's a lot of productsout there that we were already
making.
You know that we can'tnecessarily talk about and and
(36:30):
name names, but but we're doinga lot of white labeling where
we're making products for otherLPs or other brands that are out
on the market.
And so there came a point whereit's like whoa, we're making a
lot of distillate infusedpre-rolls at our facility we're
filling a lot of distillate vapecarts.
Why don't we launch our ownbrand of these products to to
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maybe get a little bigger pieceof the pie?
Or or, like Mark said, offer asegue, or or open the door to
the consumer's mind that's maybestuck and the distillate path
to to seeing that maybe addingsome some solvent, less Full
spectrum product, can give you amore.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You know, you can learn more about it.
Yeah, I think it'll slowly getthere.
I think that's a great concept.
I mean, we haven't heardanything like that, so we're
excited for that.
That's why.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I'm super excited about that.
I'm also super excited aboutour grow.
We're growing our four plants.
I got 20 days left of flower inthe willies, wonder.
We're gonna do a little soiledoil.
So we'll keep you guys postedif I a new trend and that's an
hash, I don't know.
We'll send some out to you guysso you can try it at least hey,
that's a dream, yeah.
We're gonna try to to make somehash out of some of it and then
(37:54):
We'll keep you posted.
But I'm moved on to the nextstage of the nutrients.
Yeah, we got 20 days left, sothat's pretty interesting.
And shred them Well, no,they're bouncing back.
I just went with some flour.
I think I did give them alittle twitch nutrients there
for a bit.
I got a little curling andburning.
But you know I'm still new tothis, is the first run.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So nice, and so how long have you been going for?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
This is it, man.
It was the first time ever,every first time ever.
I grew some plants out door butI kind of consider that a
little bit different.
But that was my first,definitely for sure, ever going
to me like indoor in the tenseor anything like that.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
I've had a few failed attempts, for sure.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
So I haven't died yet .
So you know, there's the buzzerlooking.
All right, man, yeah, I meanthey'll bounce back.
There is all.
You're right.
Even I've run the leaves thishit them with some regular water
, like without nutrients in it,for a bit, mm-hmm.
And then now I'm moving on tothe next stage, where I think is
a little lighter.
It's the Bud candy and then theflush at the end.
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So we're getting there, we'regetting there.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I'm gonna quickly show it out our boy Ross big Lin
, for this dope of recycler.
It's dope recycler.
Yeah, it was pretty fire we.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
I've taken a couple dabs off of it.
It functions really, reallywell.
I like the sound.
Well done Ross.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, rob.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Rob.
I think I said Ross.
Sorry, rob.
Yeah, also, we do still havefive rip tips to give away.
If anyone wants to shoot us aquestion, it's Charlie or Sean
at higher orbit Dot ca.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
We'll be right back with aster labs.
Don't forget to follow at asterlab 710 and at higher.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Make sure you like and subscribe.
Thanks guys, smash it shout outto sheesh.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
She official beverage of higher orbit?
Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I might be on my third can right now.
Oh the day oh the day, ah, oh.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
We're back Back to the shop.
I think the store is about toclose some way now pepper
delivery, knees pepperonis shutit down, boys.
I hope so hopefully.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, ronys, we call him pepperonis.
Well, we got deliveries.
Yeah, that's like our lingo,you got.
You like it, I like the lingoidea yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
I like pepperoni pizza.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
What would you boys want everyone to know about
ashelab?
I mean mark, we were just kindof chatting about it.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah, the most important thing is just how hard
everybody works.
Like our facility.
We have roughly 40 people thatwork at our facility and Like
from the top down, like our CEO,jeff Swains, and he works his
ass off and you know he's not aconventional CEO, he's very
hands-on and he's in there, youknow, very involved with with
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all the brands and helpingdevelop the brands and, you know
, getting things to market veryaggressive that way.
I was telling you about BillMcDonald as well.
He's he's one of our foundersand he's the inspiration for our
old school gummy hash.
He he's in his 70s and he is asmoker and he, you know, when he
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started the company he wantedto make a hash that was as good
as he used to have in the 70sbecause he feels like, feels
like you know there, why can't Iget hash that's as good as I
used to get in the 70s?
You know, and I would hear thata lot back in the day.
You know these old, old guyswould tell you about how good
the hash was and Classic.
(41:29):
You know, come out east andpeople out east would tell you
about the hash.
Out west is more about the weedthat we were getting from BC,
you know, when people were moreon the flowers.
So yeah, bill, bill, you knowhe's really fed up with a lot of
the hash that's out there onthe market.
Feels like disney and Keith thatwe see out there isn't real
(41:51):
hash and so he's really proud ofof, of what everyone in the
facility has come up with, andthat's the other thing is that
everybody in our facility, theyjust they work so hard.
There's about 30 people in theprocessing facility, would you
say roughly.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
I think so, or maybe a bit more yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah, so it's, you know, full time.
We're going seven days a weekand you know everybody works
really hard and, and you know,robbie and I are out there and
we're trying to get get astrolabout there, we're trying to get
fruity hoodie out there with thehelp of Fernando, de capo of
10-01 group in Alberta shout outto Fernando yeah, and you know,
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but we're only as good as theproduct that we have.
Really, you know, like we'rejust joking, we don't have, we
don't have our business cards.
But honestly, I feel like if Icome to your store and I give
you guys a sample of somethingthat's like you know Some fire,
you guys are gonna remember us,you guys are gonna know who you
know.
Like, yeah, it's like that'show that goes.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You know that.
That's why you guys are here,you know.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Yeah, so and and and.
We're only here right nowbecause of those people in the
facility and how hard they workand Love that.
You know they're.
They're in there grinding likeit's.
They don't see the.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Where it's guys yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
Label.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Stamps and it's.
It's super cool seeing seeingpeople working there and stuff
to you know.
You have.
You know just some of theladies in there.
They have the music going andthey're they're on the dry sift
machines, you know, with thepaint brushes and it's just,
it's a vibe, you know andsanitation.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Sanitation Our facilities cleaner than a
hospital mark worked.
How many years?
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Yeah, I worked in a hospital for over 10 years.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
You're in a hospital.
I love that.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
So I, you know it's, it's, this is what we're doing.
This is what we're doing right?
You know, in the new world here, right, like we're, we're,
we're holding ourselves tohigher standards and you know, I
feel like we're producingbetter product than Then.
Then we've seen, you know,there's lots of good weed out
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there to that.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
So what's uh?
Is there anything new in therosin pipe you can share?
Is there anything new coming toOntario anyways?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
I mean I keep telling you guys about the baller jar
dabs light.
Oh, that's what we're superexcited about right now.
Okay, Um, you know it's uhthree and a half grams.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's two and a half grams.
They wouldn't get like you dothree and a half.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
So it's 1.25 live rosin, 1.25 CBD isolate.
Oh, together and it at roomtemperature, you get.
It turns into kind of a nicejam.
Okay very dabble, um, you knowa very functional dab nicer in
the daytime.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
And you're mentioning a little bit hotter.
I think, yeah, yeah, a littlebit.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
We find that, like if you, if you heat the nail up a
little bit hotter you knoweverybody's about low temp
dabbing Case in the turps I findwith the dabs light you hit it
a little bit hotter and you kindof get that cherry sirt flavor
to it.
That is my recommendation.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Cherry sirt.
Yeah, it's like cherry sirt.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
It's almost that's, I find, when you get that good
CBD isolate, you know we don'tadd any.
You're right, actually, aboutthat experience I know you're
talking about like yeah yeah,we're not adding any turps,
right, it's just, it's the liverosin and then just the CBD
isolate and just that.
That taste from the CBD isolate, it's uh, it's nice.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
It's a nice flavor With it, and you can take it a
little hotter, I think so youget a little more vapor off of
it.
I find that CBD isolate.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Yeah, oh, you get.
You get a nice cloud off of it,for sure.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, that's exciting .
Speaker 6 (45:38):
That sounds like it's nice when you're all stressed
and tensed up and you just wantto relax.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
What do you think?
So you guys are leading the wayin terms of, uh, bridging that
gap and, I think, bringingpeople to the solving less
market, but what do you thinkyou need to see in the legal
market to pull over some ofthose Folks who are still buying
legacy jars, kind of like wewere talking just before.
Good questions, really.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
We just gotta let them know we're out here and
that there's there's goodproducts in the legal market.
You can find good products atyour store.
We're not the only ones, butyou know we're.
We're just trying to do it Atat a mass scale so that we can
sell it at a price point thateveryone can afford and the
consumer can depend on us tokeep feeding them those jars
(46:23):
over and over again.
And it's not just going to be alimited drop of 800 or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Good point.
What's a good point, man?
That's really important.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
Well, I guess.
Well, I mean, look atcigarettes, look at the way
people smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
The people smoke the same exact cigarettes for
freaking 20 years, 20 years.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Do you think eventually we'll see that type
of behavior and we though?
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Well, I hope not.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
I'm all about the flavors, but do you guys see
that, like, do you guys seepeople coming in and just seeing
?
They get bored people buyingthe same they do get bored.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Certain, certain people don't.
They'll rotate a bit like youthink about, like your
Sure-signed pink kush, forinstance.
I mean, I think that theirmarket's shrinking a little bit,
but there are some people wholiterally live and die by.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
You got any of that violator kush mark.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
The violator.
Violator mark.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
The violators legendary it is there really is
violators, like you know, I knowplenty of people who find that
one strain, that one called thebar, and they're just like, yeah
, there's nothing that beats itand that is all they want.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, you want to be shadow tool, jom it was always
the funny thing I was sellingviolator kush.
I don't really want to be.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Yeah, I was always first in line.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Who might sell a?
Speaker 6 (47:38):
body.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I love it.
It is funny.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
So does.
So does asking someone to smellyour jar, but I do it all the
time, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Hey, come here.
There are definitely I thinknames have a lot to do with
strains depending, likeregardless of how good the flour
is, some people Exactly likeSean said, some people do not
want the violation.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
They don't want the violation.
But, like you said, the otherday that guy came in and yeah,
no gelato, right, no gelato guy.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Oh, that guy was funny, buddy.
No gelato, no gelato.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Get out of here, charlie, as soon as he's trying
to go down that road with him,um, and it's in so many things,
but anyways, he was doing funny.
He was like I don't want gelato.
Speaker 6 (48:19):
No, gelato crosses out of bad, so adamance about it
and was just not, you know, Iknow, feel that wave out of
regina.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah right, oh really , even like Sicilian, or regina.
Yeah, wow, is there likecommentallion bro?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
But there must be a strain that we all just won't
smoke and I know what charlie'sis, but like, yeah, like no
Strain, that won't smoke.
What's a strain?
That like if somebody offers itto you, no matter how nice it
is, you're like no, I'm goodReally and I have one for sure.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, what is it?
Sourcush, sourcush?
Yeah, they're not meant to be.
It's like I mean all weeds,kind of two cousins but that's
like brother and sister in aweird way, you know, creating a
bastard strain.
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I don't like things that have too much little little
in them because I find like I'mallergic to it or something and
it closes off my throat.
I like, I like the effects ofit, but I find that If I find a
strain, like I find it worry-os,I think has a little little and
like certain things like thatand it fucks me up, just fucks
me up.
My eyes get all watered and myshink is all closed up.
(49:23):
I sneeze and I it's just not.
I just don't enjoy myself.
Does that make sense.
Yeah, no, and I just don't likethe flavor of it and then like
orange chirps, too much orangeand anything I can't really get
down.
Really good mimosa if it's onthe sweeter side of orange juice
and not like the tangy like sopey tangy.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
You don't like the tangy.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Don't like the tangy.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Get out of here, tangy.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Man, I know, I don't know, that's just me.
I mean, you know, I told you Ilike the gas, the gas OG smoker
over here.
So with like sprinkles ofdessert.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
The one you know.
I always used to hear aboutcheeses, you know people like
man it's like it's like I likeanything but but no cheese.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
No, there you go.
See, you had some.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
But for myself, I, I, I don't discriminate against
cheese.
No, I like my cheeses.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Of course, if it was in fire I'm going to try it.
Yeah, but it's just never goingto be my go to.
Does that mean that makes sense?
Yeah, you guys must have one.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
I guess it's hard.
I know what you mean.
Speaker 4 (50:31):
Like anything works, well anything if you hit
anything, if it, if it shutsyour your lungs down like that's
a no go.
Like you know we were talkingearlier, like you know, some of
these Disti carts.
I don't even know what I got,but a friend of mine passed me
one couple months ago and, likemy, I started having an asthma
(50:53):
attack.
I wouldn't even have asthma.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
I was just.
I agree they're inflammatoryfor sure yeah, when they
Speaker 2 (50:58):
add too many, I think , botanical turps.
It gets to a point where likepeople think it's getting them
high and I'm like, no, it's justlike destroying your lungs,
probably like fuck yeah.
Anyways, let's be honest, Ihope not.
I hope not.
I do think, though it's on areal note, like I guess I can't
talk about this podcast.
I feel like eventually theywill be like babe carts are
(51:19):
terrible for you Probably Vapeand botanical turps.
Beans are bad.
Now we have the data, just thetheory.
Well, I mean.
I'm just just a hunch.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
I feel like you know, in the meantime it's like you
can hit solvent, less solvent,less vape carts, and it's better
alternative.
We got a place right.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
We need the lightspeed card to well for us.
I know that.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
Yeah, it was a good one.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
We're gonna give it a shot.
I don't vape that much.
Speaker 6 (51:50):
Well, and that's how we're trying to change things
right Right now.
Speaker 5 (51:53):
Top 30 selling vapes in Ontario.
Oh, that's sick.
Or all just live vapes.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
Oh, I thought you were a 10.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
That doesn't surprise me though Like just from my
experience here Just the numbers, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
What's the top one, Do you know?
I think it's general admission.
I was gonna say Tiger Bloodprobably.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Yeah, probably something like that, or a back
40 card or something like that.
Gnarly Okay Like we have theconversation all the time.
There's like a segment ofpeople who, unfortunately, like
and I've said this before, justdon't care, like we'll be, like
hey, like do you want likefruity or like more like weedy?
And they're like what do youeven mean?
And then you start talking andthen usually I just stop and
(52:34):
exactly.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
You can lose them, but that's a good, usually a
place to start what people do.
So I'm just looking at youconfused, like what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (52:40):
No, but it's nice to have a conversation.
It depends on the mood.
You catch someone in or again,some people just don't care.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
Almost every young person I know vapes one of those
disposable nicotine.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yeah, the young people with that is wild yeah.
Speaker 6 (52:58):
So why can't they have one that's got, you know,
cannabis and instead of nicotine?
Speaker 4 (53:03):
Yeah, I mean all we use is like heat, ice, water and
pressure and cannabis.
That's all, that's it.
That's the only you knowingredient in our vape carts.
So to me, in terms of analternative, it's probably the
best one out there.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Yeah, yeah, there's a select few.
She's sure, sometimes you dropthat and people are intrigued,
though, when you say that icewater water pressure right yeah,
that's it.
That's it, and it's like thinkabout it and they're like, oh,
I'm like I'm considering this,I'm smoking it Right.
And they're like, yeah, I'lltake that and you're the great
price too.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
McIntyre Creek.
You know they got certifiedorganic for 2023, but they've
been working towards that and sothey've been, you know, using
organic and sustainable methodsand so, like we're getting
highest quality.
You know input flower from BCand you know we're processing it
(54:03):
in the least intrusive way, youknow.
So I think it's I keep saying Ijust I think it's the best
alternative.
I've been dabbing for almost adecade now, or probably over a
decade, and I've been prettymuch that whole time is
hydrocarbon extractions, bho,diamonds and sauce.
That was always my jam.
(54:24):
You know FSEs, that sort ofthing.
But over the last year I'vereally gone more into the live
rosins, into the solving thisworld and just seeing what's out
there.
Yeah, it's just, you get allthe same flavors.
You get different flavors.
Like Rob you're saying, youknow you get flavors.
(54:45):
It's like holy shit, I haven't,even I've never, I've never
tasted that before, right, andthat's what you're kind of like.
I feel like that's what.
If you're a dabber, that's whatyou're going for.
You're trying to find that,that terp.
You have an experience, right.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
So Great answer, man.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
I don't know where I was going by.
You know it was a good one.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
I think that as we educate everybody more,
hopefully they'll want to trymore live rosin carts to
understand what they are.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
So With something like fruity hoody would you ever
dabble with like an FSE,because obviously Astralabs is a
solving list, but like I don'thave any issues with an FSE or
like some people aren't scaredof VHO and I'm like I mean
that's the best.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
It tastes good if it's clean.
Speaker 5 (55:32):
You know, got the liberty to kind of experiment
and explore with all kinds ofdifferent products.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
Yeah, true, that gives you a little bit more
runway to mess around a littlebit.
Yeah, nice, yeah, that'sawesome.
Speaker 4 (55:45):
In the meantime, we keep Astralab.
You know, solvalless andsolvalless exploration for all
you know.
That's, that's the missionstatement and that's what we're
going to stick to with Astralaband fruity hoodies just gonna.
You know, I don't know if I'vesaid it today on the pod yet-
I'm going to say it like 10times after I leave.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
It's the gateway.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
It's the gate, fruity hoodies, the gateway into live
rosin.
It's a way to introduce peopleto it, right.
Okay, get people into it.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
I look forward to trying to know man.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Yeah, definitely.
Oh, that just popped in my headand I'm guilty, I guess, but I
haven't been blazing in a whilein my defense.
But what flower is in yourguys' pre-roll?
That's the first product webrought in, by the way, for you
guys.
We love them.
Speaker 6 (56:29):
So right now we've got Dank Sinatra as the flower
that we're using in ourpre-rolls Nice, okay, okay, from
your homies down the way.
Yes, from a grow also out ofAlberta Nice.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
Okay, yeah, very good , I was talking to someone about
that strain today.
Speaker 6 (56:48):
Yeah, it's nice yeah.
It's beautiful smoke Nice.
Speaker 5 (56:53):
Blended with a beautiful live rosin.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah, baby, is it Dank Sinatra rosin as well?
Speaker 6 (56:59):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (57:01):
The strain names for the live rosin are in the title
of the product.
Speaker 6 (57:07):
So it's a guava-cock-kush and the
pineapple orange peel yeah nice.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Wait, there's a guava-cock-kush.
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (57:15):
Pre-roll yeah yeah, I think yeah that's correct.
Speaker 5 (57:19):
In Alberta we have a one and a half gram
guava-cock-kush live rosininfused.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
One point five got blunt.
We got a blunt number.
Speaker 5 (57:30):
Oh, a future roller wrap.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
yeah, We'll make sure you guys get one of those
before we leave here.
You guys can try that.
I'm going to open this andinspect it.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
I'm not going to dab it, but this I got the summer
cherry punch.
So this is launching in Ontarioor it's already out.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Oh, I have one open here.
You can take this one.
Pass it over to Charlie.
The summer cherry punch, so youcan pick this up in Ontario.
Speaker 5 (57:51):
Summer cherry punch you can pick up in Alberta.
Okay, Guava-cock-kush liverosin you can pick up in Ontario
.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Okay, there, that's a dab in the clover.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
Thanks for calling the Sheesh Hotline.
Are you stoned?
Press zero and tell us about it.
Matter of fact, tell uswhatever.
Just hash it out.
You might end up on ourInstagram.
Sheesh leave a message at thetone.
Speaker 5 (58:22):
Hey, I just wanted to say what up to Sheesh.
Thank you for producing abeautiful craft, artisan cherry
cola beverage using asolventless hash product.
You knocked it out of the parkwith this one.
Congratulations on your successhere in Ontario and continued
success throughout Canada.
I hope that we can worktogether at some point in the
(58:42):
future.
Sheesh, Sheesh, Sheesh, Sheesh.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
That came out of nowhere.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (58:53):
Nice, it kind of worked.
Nice, I wonder, could you guysproduce a binding agent?
No, they have a special nextproject for Astrolabs.
Speaker 5 (59:07):
We like to think that there's nothing we can't do.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
That's great.
Just a little bit Guys, thelittle bit Doc Brown in the back
cooking up.
That's great.
Where can they find you boys,where can they find?
Speaker 5 (59:20):
us.
Yeah, you can find us onInstagram at Astrolabs 710.
Beautiful.
Or you can follow our newInstagram, fruityhootyflav.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
Yeah, it was fruityhooty it was
fruityhootyflav Fruityhootyflav.
Speaker 5 (59:32):
We look at fruityhootyfrave and fruityhooty
is spelled F-R-O-O-T-Y.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (59:39):
You have to fruit the hoot.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
It's been really nice getting to know you boys.
Go buy some rosin rolls or somesolvent list from Astrolabs.
Speaker 5 (59:53):
I just hope a baller jar of dab light.
Speaker 4 (59:55):
We appreciate your support, boys.
We really appreciate the lovewe feel.
Like Cosmic Charlie's andAstrolab is like a match made in
heaven.
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
That's it, buddy.
Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
We'll keep bringing the fire and you guys keep
putting it out there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, thanks for having us.
We'll come visit you boys inAlberta.
I've never been to.
Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Alberta, come up for a stampede.
There we go, two of ourfacility.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Nice Sounds good.
We'll be back next week.
Have a good one, Peace boys,thanks for having us.
Minus 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 8 inches.
Start 4, 3, 2, 1.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm Sean and I'm Charlie.
This is higher orbit.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I just love the mess of that.
I don't know Different cadenceevery time.
We got a night show tonight.
Some great guests this evening.
I'm going to try.
Well, actually, I guess, robbieFisher, that's easy enough to
introduce.
You nailed it, mark Vittur.
Yeah, easy enough, vittur yeah.
Vittur.
Okay, there you go.
Got to correct me that wasclose enough.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I mean, you're not going to get any better than
that in Alberta.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Fair enough, A couple of boys from out west.
They're dropping by for kindand then down to Vegas to rip
some sweet cannabis conferences.
Welcome to the show guys.
We're happy to have you andtalk about how All things
solvent less than hash related.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I believe right.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Yeah, Thank you so much.
Thanks for having us guys.
We're really excited to joinyou.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, man, let's get right into it.
Man, where is your facility?
I mean Alberta you mentioned.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
So yeah.
So Mark and I both live inCalgary.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
And our facility is in Rocky View County.
Rocky View, it's about fiveminutes west of Erdrey, okay,
about 10 minutes north ofCalgary, okay.
So it's just outside citylimits, it's in the country,
it's a beautiful almost 20-acreproctority that we have and,
(01:47):
yeah, it's kind of in therolling foothills.
You can see the mountains inthe background on a clear day.
Yeah, there's been a lot ofdifferent iterations of
businesses that were conjured upand run from that facility
there and over the years it justslowly changed and morphed and
(02:09):
finally was turned into an LP.
How long have you guys beendoing this?
So we took over the facility inJanuary of 2022.
Okay, and so it was two and ahalf years that we ran the
facility for before we were ableto launch our first branded
(02:32):
products ourselves.
So our first brand that welaunched was Astrolab, and that
was this summer, in June.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's fucking awesome man.
Yeah, I mean I was tellingCharlie that as soon as we saw
your brand, I was kind of sayingthat it almost seemed like they
would be in the same universeor something Like.
They're fucking like, if therewas a Quentin Tarantino movie,
there would be Cosmic Charlie'sand Astrolab would be the
producer right and we would sellit in the dispensary.
So I immediately kind ofgravitated towards it.
(03:02):
I really love the style and howdid you guys kind of come up
with Astrolab and how did thatcome about?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
So Astrolab the brand was created.
We were kind of spitballingideas for different names.
We definitely wanted to choosesomething that was going to be
fun, not too serious.
We actually played around withthe idea of just calling
ourselves Astrolab first.
Cool, and I personally liked it.
(03:32):
I thought of the cartoon AstroBoy growing up as a kid.
That's what I think of, youknow.
I think of those rocket bootsthat he had Every time I take a
dab, that's what I want to bedoing Fist in the air, taken off
into outer space.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You totally man, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
So yeah, I was always into it and then eventually it
evolved into Astrolab and wekind of had visions of the old
what is it from the Houston NASAcompound.
(04:13):
They had an old schoolstreamliner RV that used to
drive the astronauts to and fromthe rockets and we kind of
imagined having that as the lab.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Okay, rv, you have like breaking bad stuff?
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
But with a sort of Astro twist or Like the DeLorean
.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Reap Force as an RV.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
we'll say so I think that is how you're thinking.
It's like Creeful Dead meetsBreaking Bad.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You love that man.
That's fucking sick.
Making a hash rosin on the flyI like it Exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And where did the obsession with like?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
solvent lists come from.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I know like solvent lists is your fucking passion.
That's like what you guys arein this for.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
So, yeah, the parent LP that we both work for it's
called Simply Solvent ListConcentrates Limited, okay, and
so, like I said, since we tookthe facility over almost three
years ago now, we've been doinga lot of solvent list extraction
work.
So our main two processes thatwe do when we bring input
(05:25):
material in, so we don't growanything ourselves we're not
cultivators, got it.
We do have the cultivationlicense at our facility.
We could, in the future, lookat doing that, but we kind of
just wanted to focusspecifically on doing solvent
list extraction and doing it atscale.
Okay, cool.
(05:45):
So it's a rather large facilitythat we have 35,000 square feet,
we have nine labs, and so, inorder to keep the place running,
keep the lights on and keepeveryone working, we got to be,
you know, producing a lot.
So processing every day,multiple rooms.
(06:06):
We do a lot of infusedpre-rolls and packaging.
But, yeah, the first twoprocesses that are kind of our
staples when we're bringinginput material in is we're
either taking fresh, frozen andwe're washing it in our ice
water extraction cold lab, okay,and we're taking that wet
(06:29):
bubble, throwing it into freezedryers and then collecting the
dry bubble once it's finished inthe freeze dryer and then from
there we can take that bubbleand we can use that as an input
for infused pre-rolls orproducts, or we can process it
(06:52):
further by squishing it intolive rosin.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I think that's awesome.
I think I missed that.
I didn't realize that you justdo the processing.
So that's smart that you knownot having to take care of
everything, and I guess justfocusing on what material you
want to work with kind of takesout.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, less capital tied up and growing flour, which
is variable, and time energy,all that shit right.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Totally, and when we first took over the facility, we
purchased it from another LPwho kind of grew out of it into
a larger space, and when wefirst took it over, part of the
deal was inheriting a lot oftheir old material that they had
stockpiled and weren't able tosell on their own, and so it was
(07:37):
a great starting point for usto be able to start processing
at mass scale Crazy that's acool opportunity.
And then, you know, cut ourteeth and learn how to survive
just doing B2B transactions withother LPs, so selling our
products in bulk.
So the other main process thatwe do, besides our ice water
(08:01):
extraction, is collecting drysift.
So we have tumblers that we use.
So we'll take you know, we cantake small nugs flour or even
just trim and other materiallike that they call.
You know, extract gradematerial and we'll tumble it in
(08:24):
our tumblers with dry ice andcollect the Keef or dry sift
that makes its way through thedifferent mesh screen sizes that
we have.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Fuck me, that's a cool shim Sheesh.
That's impressive.
I'm going to go with that one.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Right, I mean the infused pre-rolls are very
popular right now.
It's a huge category in thelegal market and a lot of them
you'll see, you know, Keef ordry sift just coated on the
exterior of the joints.
A lot of the infuse Clot-topsfrom you guys.
Yeah, you know there's plentyof producers out there making it
(09:02):
, but it's one of our stapleproducts that we use to further,
you know, make like ourold-school gummy hash.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That we have.
I really enjoyed that.
You can't mind.
You gave me a sample that lasttime.
I wanted to let you know I wassuper happy with it.
Yeah, man, yeah, so nobilitybuzz.
It burned really great.
I've heard nothing but goodthings about it, and especially
at the price point.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
And again coming from Astrolab, it's a solventless
product.
So the way we make our gummyhash is we take that dry sift
that we'll pull from ourtumblers and then we'll mix it
with our live rosin.
Okay, nice, at a specific ratiothat makes that really nice,
(09:50):
malleable gummy like.
That's why we call it the gummyhash Very cool, because it's
really fun to play with and, youknow, roll into a snake if
that's your thing.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'm going to tell you that's you're mixing live rosin
and bubble hash and that andgetting it to that texture.
Sorry, not bubble hash.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Sorry, Sometimes we'll work sometimes we'll work
a little bit of our bubble hashin there as well, okay, but most
of the time the main twoingredients are our live rosin
and our dry sifter Keef.
There you go, nice.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And that's it 100% solventless.
I was a big fan of it, which isa huge differentiator.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Sorry, I didn't mean to speak over there.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, no, no go for it, Robby man, You're good.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
But, you know, compared to a lot of the other
old school hashes that are outthere, you know they're made in
part by mixing in distillate,which you know, not to say that
ours is actually made how theywere making hash, you know, a
thousand years ago or anythinglike that.
We've progressed.
We'd like to think that our,our hash is is a little bit of a
(10:54):
better, cleaner product, right,but but certainly similar.
So so a lot of the old schoolheads kind of love it because it
brings them back.
And, like you said, the pricepoint two grams over 40% THC for
under $30.
It's a smoke and deal andthere's so many different ways
that you can use it.
(11:14):
There really is.
You know, our ethos or ourmission statement at AstroLab is
solventless exploration for all, and so you know what we've.
What we were thinking of whenwe came up with that is that
we're going to provide thesesolventless products in a bunch
of different formats so thatpeople can enjoy them regardless
(11:36):
of whether or not they have arig at home.
It's not just going to bedabbing, but infused pre-rolls,
old school gummy hash.
We have a product out here inOntario that's a milled cannabis
Okay, infused with live rosin,and it just comes, oh my god,
dime baggy, and then, and thenwe sell it with a disposable
(11:57):
one-hitter.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
That's kind of cool.
That takes us back.
For some of us that reallytakes us back because back in
the day when you could smoke ina bar, people, you'd bring your
one-hitter and your inhabit inyour pocket so you'd be in the
bar and everybody would besmoking ciggies in there.
And you just get a good dippingin your pocket and he's smoking
.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
What is that smell before?
I don't know what you'retalking about.
You just lit up a cigarette.
Afterwards fire, right yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So for me it's like something that you know, it's
like that's what we're havingfun with when we were, you know,
like 18, 19 years old.
Now bird, it's 18 and now it'sa commercial product.
It's just kind of mind-blowingthat this is where we're at with
it now, you know yeah, I thinkit is an interesting idea.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I mean, we saw early on there was it was kind of like
a turpent fuse and I mean we'reseeing a lot of that actual
Definitely been intrigued to seemore these use out of this guy.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
True to flower.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, products like that, I don't know.
I, I'm, I feel like I know whatyour guys opinion would be, but
like we're seeing a lot of thatin the market and I guess, how
do you just continue to staytrue?
I mean, it's in your ethos,really, but I'm sure you have
like let's say I'll I'm not LPs,provincial providers or
(13:18):
wholesale sellers like lookingfor these products that are like
Definitely different than yourvibe.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Let's say yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, solvent list
is definitely a Weaker categoryin terms of the, the number of
Participants in it, the numberof providers that are offering
those sorts of products to thelegal market.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So you know, that's just like an education thing.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
I Do think so in part .
Yes, because I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'm obviously the more educated you know Consumer
and I fucking love this shitthat you guys are doing, but how
come like?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
we often get told we're the favorite brand in
Alberta amongst the bud tendersof Alberta.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I Though.
But I mean, it's a great placeto be recommending you guys at
least right, totally, totallybut at the end of the day
there's still Different orseparate from the consumer.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Okay, yeah that's right.
That is, that is still morecoming into the store, that's
looking for the best bang fortheir buck and in and in their
mind and in their estimation,they think that means highest
THC Value for the lowest per perdollar.
Yeah, you know.
(14:42):
And then and it's you know, noone goes into a liquor store and
says what's your highest giveme the 151.
If it's cheap and it's in hishigh alcohol content.
That's what I want.
Give it to me.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
No I mean there are some people like that it's an
unfortunate trend.
I hope it's just that a trend,because I mean it'll take time,
like anything.
It's still an immature market.
So, yeah, it's changing, it'schanging.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I think it like, let's be real about it, a lot of
people that are buying jars arestill buying legacy jars.
Yeah, that too.
So I feel like you know we'recoming with a product that's
really good.
I think you know people like it, I think the heads really
respected and the price is goodon it.
So you know we're gonna getpeople coming into the stores
(15:34):
that haven't been coming intothe stores.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, again, solventless exploration for all.
Yeah, we didn't want to haveour products be at price points
that the average consumercouldn't afford.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, when you guys are like looking for products to
it being sourced elsewhere.
Are you going to see the grow?
Are you going to see, like,pick up packs, like what's,
what's that process?
Speaker 5 (15:55):
So so, yeah, definitely in the in the earlier
First couple years, we did alot of touring of a ton of
different facilities.
Yeah, we've we've worked with afew different LPs providers.
We're not as strict when we're,when we're tumbling and
collecting dry sift, yeah, butfor our fresh frozen We've
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pretty much gotten the majorityof our material from one LP, one
provider, and it's all outdoorproducts.
So it's Actually now certifiedorganic the farm as a 2023.
So this year's crop iscertified organic.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Let's don't man, yeah , and you get a lot of chirps
that you can't get in door fromsome outdoor sun room bleaching
bed.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Right, it's, they're, they're large, whole, whole
plants that were, you know,harvested and then, flash frozen
, brought to our facility inreefer trucks.
You know, we're even, we'reeven super strict about how we
unload those trucks and and thetime in which it's, you know,
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exposed to room temperaturebefore we get it into our
freezers where we're storing it.
Yeah, and then, and then, evenafter it gets into the facility
in OQ, a inspects it all, makesure that it's passes their,
their standards, and and then,boom, we'll start washing it as
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quickly as possible and it'stiming like is that like a
brutal factor in the processingof it?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
like in the fresh frozen?
How much time do you have whenyou have a fresh frozen product
like that, like so?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
We've.
You know you can.
You can if it's, if it's frozenproperly, if it's harvested and
frozen properly, okay, you cankeep it for for a little while
before Before you wash it.
But I mean different.
I'm not the lead, has she'sshun at our facility.
I'm not the expert, so I don'twant to speak.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Who is?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
shut them out.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
So him or her, whatever.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Braden Macintyre is our, is our lead.
Has she shun?
And okay, all right, cool, Igot him saved in my phone is the
Messiah, because To me he isthe chosen one.
He and he's gonna lead us tothe promised land.
I truly believe that.
So, yeah, big ups to BradenMacintyre.
That guy works in incrediblyhard Since he started three
(18:24):
months before me.
So he started since the day wegot the keys to the facility and
they were just doing R&D atthat point I came in on March
27th, I believe and that was ourfirst day of commercial
production that that guy worksincredibly hard.
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He's incredibly humble.
He's always Continuing to learn.
We're continuing to improve ourprocesses.
We don't think we're the bestat anything, but we do think
that we we want it really badand we're working really hard
for it and we're trying to,we're trying to change the game
here, essentially.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So, yeah, man, I think Charlie kind of pointed
that out.
Like you know, it's tough tohave a foot.
Well, it's just tough to have afocus on solving this when
everybody wants fucking generaladmission, dusting, dusty and
Dusty's and whatever the tastiesaren't, or 50% THC with the the
blueberry raspberry terps andit tastes like a jolly rancher.
Yeah, gross, but you knowitself.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, that's alright, things will change.
Market still new.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
We'll talk more about that cuz, like you know, we
have something to say about thattoo.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
We'll be right back hating.
Don't forget to follow.
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Speaker 3 (20:01):
We are back with the astralabs boys and lots of rosin
talking to her.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I'm a shot.
What was Georgia pie flour withthe summer cherry punch in it?
It was good, very good.
Yeah, it turned out really good.
Cold out there, though I thinkthere's a little clogged issue
at the end, but that's neitherhere nor there.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
No, the clogged was at the beginning, it was clogged
at the end, mean you?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
figured it out.
There you go.
Where do we lift off?
We were kind of talking alittle bit botanical turf versus
you know right.
I'm wondering.
I mean, we don't really knowwhat's gonna happen, but how
would you feel if, let's say,legislation change, for Terps
not being allowed?
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I mean well for Astrolab.
It wouldn't really affect ustoo much, because the only
terpenes we have in the Astrolabproducts are derived from the
plant themselves.
So it's a part of the process.
It's all from the same oneingredient.
You know all of our, all of ourjar concentrates.
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They're all single strains, sowe're not just doing a jungle
mix or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
A jungle mix.
I haven't heard that termbefore.
I like that, but I do thinkthat's weird because I've I've
heard other people being likeit's a mix of this and that and
I'm doing a live rosin and I'mlike that kind of defeats the
purpose, isn't it?
If you're going after somebodythat cares enough to want to,
you know, really experience thatstrain.
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I love that.
It's like the essence of theplant, you know.
Yeah, it's really capturing theessence of the garden, it's.
It tastes like the flowersmells, as opposed to.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You did, natalie, yeah, yeah, I think there's
something, too that peoplealways ask me like well, you dab
because you want to get reallyhigh, right, and I'm like, but
sometimes I actually feel likeyou are just experiencing more
of the essence of the plant tothat even more higher degree and
you're not carbonizing it, soyou're not getting that like
ashy taste, right?
Um, that's just.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, we're not smoking yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
We're not carbonizing it.
Nothing is being combusted.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, yeah.
So you're really like justunlocking so much flavor, I
guess is what I'm saying Chasingthe Terps, that's it so.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
so let's talk flavors .
What are your guys favoriteflavors?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Favorite probably like um, og and gas always over
here kind of.
That's like pretty much like ifyou're smoking yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Smoking or dabbing, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Still, that's what I look for.
Yeah, I guess that's like the.
You know, I guess that's whatI'm looking for, barnishing gas.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I think me and Sean have pretty similar tastes, yeah
.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Um, I like some of that cakey stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I like some fruity stuff too, Like fruity things
desserts are in right now, right?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Obviously, everybody seems to like things that are
sweeter Funki.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
it'd be nice sometimes, like on occasion, you
know, a little funky, likesomething real weird or like
what the fuck.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Anything.
Yeah, Weird GMOs sometimes canbe cool.
No, but that's funky, it'sweird yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
When I'm dabbing, I feel like I'm on the never
ending search Things.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't like For that new flavor.
Other terps you don't like.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
more importantly, For something I've never tasted
before, so that's if it's weirdor it's strange that's hot to me
.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
You know that's the new fire.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Something different, Because it's just like whoa,
what was that?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I'm not a huge fan of the Bioturp or like you know,
and it smells like someone's gymbag really, Like you know or
like that, with a little bit ofcappy, ammonia-y kind of thing.
Yeah, that's not for me.
Cute macabre piss.
Yeah yeah, I'm not going to eata piss.
And all those kinds of things,Even when it comes through like
it's supposed to, I'm just likenah take that To me there's
something kind of a feelingabout it.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I'm not going to lie in a weird way, I don't know,
now I'm with you that cat pissis one of the loudest, at least
like I've had in diamond andsauce form and man you open that
up, you know exactly what I'mtalking about.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
It's like a rocket up here.
You can smell it across theroom Like it's rude, yeah,
offensive.
Offensive.
It literally smells like,because I really I'm allergic to
cats, so I have a predisposedyou got like a fucking open cat
piss jar I've had somecats in my life that I ended up
liking anyways, but they gotsome work to do to make it into
(24:23):
my good books and I think one ofthe most disgusting smells in
the world is like the kittylitter box, especially if the
owner doesn't properly maintainit or whatever you gotta do yeah
, that's rough.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, that's definitely not good.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
And it's amazing that that is a smell that one of
these flowers can produce.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
It really is.
It's genetically in its makeup.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, it really is.
Every time it's gonna smelllike a cheetah's piss.
You got weird like pineapple.
It's like a sour fermentedpineapple in a way.
That's not what I think of.
I ended the piss a little bitbut like trying not to let your
head go there, fermentedpineapple, good call.
That's kind of what it is.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
To me.
I like the sweet herbs, thefruity herbs.
That's why I like our summercherry punch so much.
Another flavor we got on thepipeline coming up here,
hopefully, will be this purplepunch, and that's another.
It's a different kind of fruity.
It's kind of like a tart orangeOkay, like a sharp, sour, like
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orange peel Very cool.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I'm wondering is a lot of the yield, like how do
you maximize yield or is itmostly down to the input?
Or I guess, as it depend onkind of the microns you're using
and depending on what you, howmuch plant matter you're using.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
It is, I think, in large parts strange specific.
But who you know, how it'sgrown is also very important,
and I know Brayden always talksabout intention in the garden.
So when you're growing with thepurpose or intention of washing
the whole time, that's why,like for those purposes, an
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outdoor garden is kind of likeunbeatable, because you know
that THC percentage isn't goingto be your main factor and you
know how Isn't potency?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I have a thing of the best way to say it is that THC
percentage doesn't equate topotency.
Well, and every geneticism Ithink that's the common myth
right that we're trying to bust,right, Correct Everybody, 100%.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I mean there's entourage effect.
There's, you know, there's theeffect of the different
terrapins.
Have you know?
We I think it was the Karma Cup.
I heard the winner of the KarmaCup this year was like under
15% THC or something like that.
Oh cool, so you know it's.
This whole idea you got to havethe highest THC to have the
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best weed is just wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
No, I think you're right, man, I think you're right
.
I always say I think we'reprobably the best.
Weed is probably around only 22to 23% THC of fat and just a
higher terp percentage, you know, and that's probably going to
this probably as as high as itneeds to be to get you pretty
fucking zuted.
I would say Just well-grownweed per se.
Can you guys?
disclose who you get your stufffrom or know.
(27:22):
Is that top secret Mac and TireCreek fun.
Is that what it was?
I don't know if we shouted themout yet, Okay cool MCCI yeah,
that's dope Mac and Tire Creek.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Shout out to Quinn Shishin.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And there in Alberta as well.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
No, they're in the Okanagan, in BC Okanagan.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Okay, there you go Now connecting the dot.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Close to Penticton.
Close to Okanagan Falls.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah, we were lucky enough to get a tour the day
before they were doing crop outand they were the day before
they started their crop out aminute last month and it was
just incredible seeing the fieldof dreams.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You just tell them what they were doing.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Oh, just seeing the flowers and all their glory,
it's just unbelievable.
Totally Seeing.
Some of you know we were ableto see the purple punch and it's
just incredible.
It was like almost, I think,three meters some of them.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, the Okanagan Valley is beautiful.
If people don't know, you cangrow fucking anything there.
I think it's one of the veryfew places in the world actually
you can grow your round, if I'mnot mistaken.
I'm pretty sure Well, factslike that, but I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I mean they grow a lot of stuff there.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
That's for sure.
That's where all the wine comesfrom, and everything yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, which is pretty cool With respect to those guys
growing for you, do you reachout to them and you're like I
need this for hash, or justgoing and seeing what they're
already growing, and thenthey're like, hey, I got this
sweet girl for you guys.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
We when we first started working with them.
I mean, they have a lot ofcannabis, for sure.
They grow a lot of cannabis, andthey were harvesting and
freezing it right away because,whether it was for our purposes,
for solventless extraction orfor a hydrocarbon facility to
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use, that's the route that theywere going, and so I think they
were choosing strains that theywere hoping would work well for
those scenarios, and so we'vetest washed every lot or batch,
every different cultivar thatthey've grown each year to see
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which ones will produce the bestor work the best with us and go
from there, and definitely wecame together for sure because
it worked really well with morethan one of the strains that
they grew.
We had a lot of success withquite a few.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Do you guys know if there's something like different
you have to look for whenyou're trying to process outdoor
compared to, like you know,indoor?
I don't know.
I was just on me.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I mean yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Or whatever maybe, maybe this one.
I got a question.
Obviously like the hash you dabis quite different from like
rosin you would put into a cart.
Do you know the difference inkind of how those are processed
and made?
Is that a question for the hashmaster?
Speaker 6 (30:20):
I mean yeah, for sure we know.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
To a certain extent we can explain to layman mark.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
So I mean, the jars are cold, care, yeah, and so
basically, when we fill up, whenwe're filling up the cartridges
, we're basically doing it.
It's, it's similar to a sousvide type.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Well, so, yeah, so the cold care is what we'll put
in the jars for a jarconcentrate, but what we'll do
for the rosin sauce that we putinto our carts is Process it
further.
So we'll have it in those samejars, but we'll put those jars
into an oven and we'll cook itat a proper temperature, monitor
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it and Cook it down into arosin sauce that we can then use
in a cart.
But but there's certainly a lotmore to it than that.
And and Strain to straincertain cult of ours will work
better, and the hardware thatexists like Hardware needs to
(31:22):
get better for sure, and there'slots of companies working hard
to try and make better hardwareand and and you know, we're
hopeful that it'll get betterand better, but there's a
there's a lot of things toconsider.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, the rosin is very taxing on the cartridges.
Yeah, you know the turp richand we've just you know we've we
had, we've had issues wherewe've switched into the C cell
evil and we were having a lotbetter luck with those.
They're working really well forus.
But yeah, the the technology'sgot to catch up.
(32:01):
It seems like a lot of we seeit in Canada, we see it in the
States.
It seems like everybody that'sgot a solvent list live rosin
cartridge are cutting it withdistillate and and that that's
kind of the solution to make thecartridge work.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
So you know, we, we at astral lab, we want to keep
the cartridges, we actually wantto keep them, solve the list,
we want them to be live rosinand if, if, that's what we're
advertising them, as that's whatwe're gonna, what we're gonna
put in and we've done our bestto make sure to like Make it
right with any customer who'shad a bad experience with the
(32:39):
card, or even the retail storeslike yourselves you know if you
guys are having returns orwhatever will work with you to
make sure that we can rectifythe situation, get past it right
.
But but yeah, like Mark said,we've we've launched the new
pineapple orange peel here inOntario in the C cell Evo cart
(32:59):
and so far we're seeing a muchbetter success with with those
guys and Sales have beenincreasing growing.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
So the people seem to be liking it better price point
to a little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, the price point is excellent.
Yeah, I think there are ourclients.
I'll seem to really like.
I'm for what it's worth, so wejust keep adding yeah yeah, it's
been nice to smoke and enjoy.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
We appreciate it as a part, I think.
I think at the end of the day,I think most people will come in
and get a cartridge like theyjust see it as Cartridge, like
they're not thinking about likejust live rosin, what they just
want a product that's strong,that smokes well, you know it's
like.
So I think, like if we can givethem a product that's it's
(33:45):
gonna be a better quality andand we give it to them at a
price point that's similar to adisti Perfect, we're gonna start
getting some, some people thatyou know.
Okay, I'll try that out.
It's an accent when they try itout, it's like okay, well, um,
this is a lot better.
Hi, this is.
I'm not just going straight upand then crashing.
(34:05):
You know You're gonna get theentourage effect.
You're gonna.
You're gonna realize why.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Like are you talking about after a lab, right now?
Are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Well, I was talking about Astrolab, but.
But that's a good.
I mean you can tell the boysabout fruity hoodie.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
You take it, you take it.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I mean, we're kind of trying to flip the script a
little bit with with fruityhoodie.
It's a new brand We've justlaunched here, oh cool.
And what we're doing is is,instead of, you know, cutting
our live rosin cartridges with20% disti, we've cut disti
cartridges with 20% live rosinand We've formulaed, we've come
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up with a formula that I thinkis really really nice.
We were smoking it earlier.
The grape we got a grapewatermelon, coconut and peach
and I Think it's just gonna kindof bridge the gap for people.
You know, it's like people thatthat, like those fruity flavors
, it'll give them a taste oflive rosin and again, they're
gonna get.
(35:13):
They're gonna get a taste ofthe entourage effect.
They're gonna get a taste ofwhy we feel like live rosin is a
little bit better alternativefor people, right so yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
So we just launched fruity hoodie two weeks ago in
the Alberta with three flavorsof Dysolate vape cart.
So we have the pop and peach,the gargantuan grape and the
wild watermelon coconut and thatcomes in a one gram and a half
gram five ten threaded vape cartand it will be coming to
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Ontario in February along withthat distill infused pre-rolls.
But, like Mark said, it'sdistillate that's been amplified
with our live rosin right.
So so yeah, it's distillateproduct, it's got the Terps
right.
But hey, it's, it's whatselling, it's what the thing
it's, it's what the People areshowing us with their actions
(36:09):
that they're looking for.
So we're not, we're not gonna beweed snobs here.
We're gonna give the peoplewhat we, what they want, and we
already have been, like I wastelling you guys before we
survived for two and a halfyears before we launched our
first brand.
So there's a lot of productsout there that we were already
making.
You know that we can'tnecessarily talk about and and
(36:30):
name names, but but we're doinga lot of white labeling where
we're making products for otherLPs or other brands that are out
on the market.
And so there came a point whereit's like whoa, we're making a
lot of distillate infusedpre-rolls at our facility we're
filling a lot of distillate vapecarts.
Why don't we launch our ownbrand of these products to to
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maybe get a little bigger pieceof the pie?
Or or, like Mark said, offer asegue, or or open the door to
the consumer's mind that's maybestuck and the distillate path
to to seeing that maybe addingsome some solvent, less Full
spectrum product, can give you amore.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You know, you can learn more about it.
Yeah, I think it'll slowly getthere.
I think that's a great concept.
I mean, we haven't heardanything like that, so we're
excited for that.
That's why.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I'm super excited about that.
I'm also super excited aboutour grow.
We're growing our four plants.
I got 20 days left of flower inthe willies, wonder.
We're gonna do a little soiledoil.
So we'll keep you guys postedif I a new trend and that's an
hash, I don't know.
We'll send some out to you guysso you can try it at least hey,
that's a dream, yeah.
We're gonna try to to make somehash out of some of it and then
(37:54):
We'll keep you posted.
But I'm moved on to the nextstage of the nutrients.
Yeah, we got 20 days left, sothat's pretty interesting.
And shred them Well, no,they're bouncing back.
I just went with some flour.
I think I did give them alittle twitch nutrients there
for a bit.
I got a little curling andburning.
But you know I'm still new tothis, is the first run.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So nice, and so how long have you been going for?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
This is it, man.
It was the first time ever,every first time ever.
I grew some plants out door butI kind of consider that a
little bit different.
But that was my first,definitely for sure, ever going
to me like indoor in the tenseor anything like that.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
I've had a few failed attempts, for sure.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
So I haven't died yet .
So you know, there's the buzzerlooking.
All right, man, yeah, I meanthey'll bounce back.
There is all.
You're right.
Even I've run the leaves thishit them with some regular water
, like without nutrients in it,for a bit, mm-hmm.
And then now I'm moving on tothe next stage, where I think is
a little lighter.
It's the Bud candy and then theflush at the end.
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So we're getting there, we'regetting there.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I'm gonna quickly show it out our boy Ross big Lin
, for this dope of recycler.
It's dope recycler.
Yeah, it was pretty fire we.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
I've taken a couple dabs off of it.
It functions really, reallywell.
I like the sound.
Well done Ross.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, rob.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Rob.
I think I said Ross.
Sorry, rob.
Yeah, also, we do still havefive rip tips to give away.
If anyone wants to shoot us aquestion, it's Charlie or Sean
at higher orbit Dot ca.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
We'll be right back with aster labs.
Don't forget to follow at asterlab 710 and at higher.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Make sure you like and subscribe.
Thanks guys, smash it shout outto sheesh.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
She official beverage of higher orbit?
Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I might be on my third can right now.
Oh the day oh the day, ah, oh.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
We're back Back to the shop.
I think the store is about toclose some way now pepper
delivery, knees pepperonis shutit down, boys.
I hope so hopefully.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, ronys, we call him pepperonis.
Well, we got deliveries.
Yeah, that's like our lingo,you got.
You like it, I like the lingoidea yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
I like pepperoni pizza.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
What would you boys want everyone to know about
ashelab?
I mean mark, we were just kindof chatting about it.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah, the most important thing is just how hard
everybody works.
Like our facility.
We have roughly 40 people thatwork at our facility and Like
from the top down, like our CEO,jeff Swains, and he works his
ass off and you know he's not aconventional CEO, he's very
hands-on and he's in there, youknow, very involved with with
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all the brands and helpingdevelop the brands and, you know
, getting things to market veryaggressive that way.
I was telling you about BillMcDonald as well.
He's he's one of our foundersand he's the inspiration for our
old school gummy hash.
He he's in his 70s and he is asmoker and he, you know, when he
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started the company he wantedto make a hash that was as good
as he used to have in the 70sbecause he feels like, feels
like you know there, why can't Iget hash that's as good as I
used to get in the 70s?
You know, and I would hear thata lot back in the day.
You know these old, old guyswould tell you about how good
the hash was and Classic.
(41:29):
You know, come out east andpeople out east would tell you
about the hash.
Out west is more about the weedthat we were getting from BC,
you know, when people were moreon the flowers.
So yeah, bill, bill, you knowhe's really fed up with a lot of
the hash that's out there onthe market.
Feels like disney and Keith thatwe see out there isn't real
(41:51):
hash and so he's really proud ofof, of what everyone in the
facility has come up with, andthat's the other thing is that
everybody in our facility, theyjust they work so hard.
There's about 30 people in theprocessing facility, would you
say roughly.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
I think so, or maybe a bit more yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah, so it's, you know, full time.
We're going seven days a weekand you know everybody works
really hard and, and you know,robbie and I are out there and
we're trying to get get astrolabout there, we're trying to get
fruity hoodie out there with thehelp of Fernando, de capo of
10-01 group in Alberta shout outto Fernando yeah, and you know,
(42:32):
but we're only as good as theproduct that we have.
Really, you know, like we'rejust joking, we don't have, we
don't have our business cards.
But honestly, I feel like if Icome to your store and I give
you guys a sample of somethingthat's like you know Some fire,
you guys are gonna remember us,you guys are gonna know who you
know.
Like, yeah, it's like that'show that goes.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You know that.
That's why you guys are here,you know.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Yeah, so and and and.
We're only here right nowbecause of those people in the
facility and how hard they workand Love that.
You know they're.
They're in there grinding likeit's.
They don't see the.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Where it's guys yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
Label.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Stamps and it's.
It's super cool seeing seeingpeople working there and stuff
to you know.
You have.
You know just some of theladies in there.
They have the music going andthey're they're on the dry sift
machines, you know, with thepaint brushes and it's just,
it's a vibe, you know andsanitation.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Sanitation Our facilities cleaner than a
hospital mark worked.
How many years?
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Yeah, I worked in a hospital for over 10 years.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
You're in a hospital.
I love that.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
So I, you know it's, it's, this is what we're doing.
This is what we're doing right?
You know, in the new world here, right, like we're, we're,
we're holding ourselves tohigher standards and you know, I
feel like we're producingbetter product than Then.
Then we've seen, you know,there's lots of good weed out
(44:07):
there to that.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
So what's uh?
Is there anything new in therosin pipe you can share?
Is there anything new coming toOntario anyways?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
I mean I keep telling you guys about the baller jar
dabs light.
Oh, that's what we're superexcited about right now.
Okay, Um, you know it's uhthree and a half grams.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's two and a half grams.
They wouldn't get like you dothree and a half.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
So it's 1.25 live rosin, 1.25 CBD isolate.
Oh, together and it at roomtemperature, you get.
It turns into kind of a nicejam.
Okay very dabble, um, you knowa very functional dab nicer in
the daytime.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
And you're mentioning a little bit hotter.
I think, yeah, yeah, a littlebit.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
We find that, like if you, if you heat the nail up a
little bit hotter you knoweverybody's about low temp
dabbing Case in the turps I findwith the dabs light you hit it
a little bit hotter and you kindof get that cherry sirt flavor
to it.
That is my recommendation.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Cherry sirt.
Yeah, it's like cherry sirt.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
It's almost that's, I find, when you get that good
CBD isolate, you know we don'tadd any.
You're right, actually, aboutthat experience I know you're
talking about like yeah yeah,we're not adding any turps,
right, it's just, it's the liverosin and then just the CBD
isolate and just that.
That taste from the CBD isolate, it's uh, it's nice.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
It's a nice flavor With it, and you can take it a
little hotter, I think so youget a little more vapor off of
it.
I find that CBD isolate.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Yeah, oh, you get.
You get a nice cloud off of it,for sure.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, that's exciting .
Speaker 6 (45:38):
That sounds like it's nice when you're all stressed
and tensed up and you just wantto relax.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
What do you think?
So you guys are leading the wayin terms of, uh, bridging that
gap and, I think, bringingpeople to the solving less
market, but what do you thinkyou need to see in the legal
market to pull over some ofthose Folks who are still buying
legacy jars, kind of like wewere talking just before.
Good questions, really.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
We just gotta let them know we're out here and
that there's there's goodproducts in the legal market.
You can find good products atyour store.
We're not the only ones, butyou know we're.
We're just trying to do it Atat a mass scale so that we can
sell it at a price point thateveryone can afford and the
consumer can depend on us tokeep feeding them those jars
(46:23):
over and over again.
And it's not just going to be alimited drop of 800 or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Good point.
What's a good point, man?
That's really important.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
Well, I guess.
Well, I mean, look atcigarettes, look at the way
people smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
The people smoke the same exact cigarettes for
freaking 20 years, 20 years.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Do you think eventually we'll see that type
of behavior and we though?
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Well, I hope not.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
I'm all about the flavors, but do you guys see
that, like, do you guys seepeople coming in and just seeing
?
They get bored people buyingthe same they do get bored.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Certain, certain people don't.
They'll rotate a bit like youthink about, like your
Sure-signed pink kush, forinstance.
I mean, I think that theirmarket's shrinking a little bit,
but there are some people wholiterally live and die by.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
You got any of that violator kush mark.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
The violator.
Violator mark.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
The violators legendary it is there really is
violators, like you know, I knowplenty of people who find that
one strain, that one called thebar, and they're just like, yeah
, there's nothing that beats itand that is all they want.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, you want to be shadow tool, jom it was always
the funny thing I was sellingviolator kush.
I don't really want to be.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Yeah, I was always first in line.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Who might sell a?
Speaker 6 (47:38):
body.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I love it.
It is funny.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
So does.
So does asking someone to smellyour jar, but I do it all the
time, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Hey, come here.
There are definitely I thinknames have a lot to do with
strains depending, likeregardless of how good the flour
is, some people Exactly likeSean said, some people do not
want the violation.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
They don't want the violation.
But, like you said, the otherday that guy came in and yeah,
no gelato, right, no gelato guy.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Oh, that guy was funny, buddy.
No gelato, no gelato.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Get out of here, charlie, as soon as he's trying
to go down that road with him,um, and it's in so many things,
but anyways, he was doing funny.
He was like I don't want gelato.
Speaker 6 (48:19):
No, gelato crosses out of bad, so adamance about it
and was just not, you know, Iknow, feel that wave out of
regina.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah right, oh really , even like Sicilian, or regina.
Yeah, wow, is there likecommentallion bro?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
But there must be a strain that we all just won't
smoke and I know what charlie'sis, but like, yeah, like no
Strain, that won't smoke.
What's a strain?
That like if somebody offers itto you, no matter how nice it
is, you're like no, I'm goodReally and I have one for sure.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, what is it?
Sourcush, sourcush?
Yeah, they're not meant to be.
It's like I mean all weeds,kind of two cousins but that's
like brother and sister in aweird way, you know, creating a
bastard strain.
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I don't like things that have too much little little
in them because I find like I'mallergic to it or something and
it closes off my throat.
I like, I like the effects ofit, but I find that If I find a
strain, like I find it worry-os,I think has a little little and
like certain things like thatand it fucks me up, just fucks
me up.
My eyes get all watered and myshink is all closed up.
(49:23):
I sneeze and I it's just not.
I just don't enjoy myself.
Does that make sense.
Yeah, no, and I just don't likethe flavor of it and then like
orange chirps, too much orangeand anything I can't really get
down.
Really good mimosa if it's onthe sweeter side of orange juice
and not like the tangy like sopey tangy.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
You don't like the tangy.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Don't like the tangy.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Get out of here, tangy.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Man, I know, I don't know, that's just me.
I mean, you know, I told you Ilike the gas, the gas OG smoker
over here.
So with like sprinkles ofdessert.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
The one you know.
I always used to hear aboutcheeses, you know people like
man it's like it's like I likeanything but but no cheese.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
No, there you go.
See, you had some.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
But for myself, I, I, I don't discriminate against
cheese.
No, I like my cheeses.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Of course, if it was in fire I'm going to try it.
Yeah, but it's just never goingto be my go to.
Does that mean that makes sense?
Yeah, you guys must have one.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
I guess it's hard.
I know what you mean.
Speaker 4 (50:31):
Like anything works, well anything if you hit
anything, if it, if it shutsyour your lungs down like that's
a no go.
Like you know we were talkingearlier, like you know, some of
these Disti carts.
I don't even know what I got,but a friend of mine passed me
one couple months ago and, likemy, I started having an asthma
(50:53):
attack.
I wouldn't even have asthma.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
I was just.
I agree they're inflammatoryfor sure yeah, when they
Speaker 2 (50:58):
add too many, I think , botanical turps.
It gets to a point where likepeople think it's getting them
high and I'm like, no, it's justlike destroying your lungs,
probably like fuck yeah.
Anyways, let's be honest, Ihope not.
I hope not.
I do think, though it's on areal note, like I guess I can't
talk about this podcast.
I feel like eventually theywill be like babe carts are
(51:19):
terrible for you Probably Vapeand botanical turps.
Beans are bad.
Now we have the data, just thetheory.
Well, I mean.
I'm just just a hunch.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
I feel like you know, in the meantime it's like you
can hit solvent, less solvent,less vape carts, and it's better
alternative.
We got a place right.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
We need the lightspeed card to well for us.
I know that.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
Yeah, it was a good one.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
We're gonna give it a shot.
I don't vape that much.
Speaker 6 (51:50):
Well, and that's how we're trying to change things
right Right now.
Speaker 5 (51:53):
Top 30 selling vapes in Ontario.
Oh, that's sick.
Or all just live vapes.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
Oh, I thought you were a 10.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
That doesn't surprise me though Like just from my
experience here Just the numbers, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
What's the top one, Do you know?
I think it's general admission.
I was gonna say Tiger Bloodprobably.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Yeah, probably something like that, or a back
40 card or something like that.
Gnarly Okay Like we have theconversation all the time.
There's like a segment ofpeople who, unfortunately, like
and I've said this before, justdon't care, like we'll be, like
hey, like do you want likefruity or like more like weedy?
And they're like what do youeven mean?
And then you start talking andthen usually I just stop and
(52:34):
exactly.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
You can lose them, but that's a good, usually a
place to start what people do.
So I'm just looking at youconfused, like what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (52:40):
No, but it's nice to have a conversation.
It depends on the mood.
You catch someone in or again,some people just don't care.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
Almost every young person I know vapes one of those
disposable nicotine.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yeah, the young people with that is wild yeah.
Speaker 6 (52:58):
So why can't they have one that's got, you know,
cannabis and instead of nicotine?
Speaker 4 (53:03):
Yeah, I mean all we use is like heat, ice, water and
pressure and cannabis.
That's all, that's it.
That's the only you knowingredient in our vape carts.
So to me, in terms of analternative, it's probably the
best one out there.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Yeah, yeah, there's a select few.
She's sure, sometimes you dropthat and people are intrigued,
though, when you say that icewater water pressure right yeah,
that's it.
That's it, and it's like thinkabout it and they're like, oh,
I'm like I'm considering this,I'm smoking it Right.
And they're like, yeah, I'lltake that and you're the great
price too.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
McIntyre Creek.
You know they got certifiedorganic for 2023, but they've
been working towards that and sothey've been, you know, using
organic and sustainable methodsand so, like we're getting
highest quality.
You know input flower from BCand you know we're processing it
(54:03):
in the least intrusive way, youknow.
So I think it's I keep saying Ijust I think it's the best
alternative.
I've been dabbing for almost adecade now, or probably over a
decade, and I've been prettymuch that whole time is
hydrocarbon extractions, bho,diamonds and sauce.
That was always my jam.
(54:24):
You know FSEs, that sort ofthing.
But over the last year I'vereally gone more into the live
rosins, into the solving thisworld and just seeing what's out
there.
Yeah, it's just, you get allthe same flavors.
You get different flavors.
Like Rob you're saying, youknow you get flavors.
(54:45):
It's like holy shit, I haven't,even I've never, I've never
tasted that before, right, andthat's what you're kind of like.
I feel like that's what.
If you're a dabber, that's whatyou're going for.
You're trying to find that,that terp.
You have an experience, right.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
So Great answer, man.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
I don't know where I was going by.
You know it was a good one.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
I think that as we educate everybody more,
hopefully they'll want to trymore live rosin carts to
understand what they are.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
So With something like fruity hoody would you ever
dabble with like an FSE,because obviously Astralabs is a
solving list, but like I don'thave any issues with an FSE or
like some people aren't scaredof VHO and I'm like I mean
that's the best.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
It tastes good if it's clean.
Speaker 5 (55:32):
You know, got the liberty to kind of experiment
and explore with all kinds ofdifferent products.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
Yeah, true, that gives you a little bit more
runway to mess around a littlebit.
Yeah, nice, yeah, that'sawesome.
Speaker 4 (55:45):
In the meantime, we keep Astralab.
You know, solvalless andsolvalless exploration for all
you know.
That's, that's the missionstatement and that's what we're
going to stick to with Astralaband fruity hoodies just gonna.
You know, I don't know if I'vesaid it today on the pod yet-
I'm going to say it like 10times after I leave.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
It's the gateway.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
It's the gate, fruity hoodies, the gateway into live
rosin.
It's a way to introduce peopleto it, right.
Okay, get people into it.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
I look forward to trying to know man.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Yeah, definitely.
Oh, that just popped in my headand I'm guilty, I guess, but I
haven't been blazing in a whilein my defense.
But what flower is in yourguys' pre-roll?
That's the first product webrought in, by the way, for you
guys.
We love them.
Speaker 6 (56:29):
So right now we've got Dank Sinatra as the flower
that we're using in ourpre-rolls Nice, okay, okay, from
your homies down the way.
Yes, from a grow also out ofAlberta Nice.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
Okay, yeah, very good , I was talking to someone about
that strain today.
Speaker 6 (56:48):
Yeah, it's nice yeah.
It's beautiful smoke Nice.
Speaker 5 (56:53):
Blended with a beautiful live rosin.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah, baby, is it Dank Sinatra rosin as well?
Speaker 6 (56:59):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (57:01):
The strain names for the live rosin are in the title
of the product.
Speaker 6 (57:07):
So it's a guava-cock-kush and the
pineapple orange peel yeah nice.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Wait, there's a guava-cock-kush.
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (57:15):
Pre-roll yeah yeah, I think yeah that's correct.
Speaker 5 (57:19):
In Alberta we have a one and a half gram
guava-cock-kush live rosininfused.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
One point five got blunt.
We got a blunt number.
Speaker 5 (57:30):
Oh, a future roller wrap.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
yeah, We'll make sure you guys get one of those
before we leave here.
You guys can try that.
I'm going to open this andinspect it.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
I'm not going to dab it, but this I got the summer
cherry punch.
So this is launching in Ontarioor it's already out.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Oh, I have one open here.
You can take this one.
Pass it over to Charlie.
The summer cherry punch, so youcan pick this up in Ontario.
Speaker 5 (57:51):
Summer cherry punch you can pick up in Alberta.
Okay, Guava-cock-kush liverosin you can pick up in Ontario
.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Okay, there, that's a dab in the clover.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
Thanks for calling the Sheesh Hotline.
Are you stoned?
Press zero and tell us about it.
Matter of fact, tell uswhatever.
Just hash it out.
You might end up on ourInstagram.
Sheesh leave a message at thetone.
Speaker 5 (58:22):
Hey, I just wanted to say what up to Sheesh.
Thank you for producing abeautiful craft, artisan cherry
cola beverage using asolventless hash product.
You knocked it out of the parkwith this one.
Congratulations on your successhere in Ontario and continued
success throughout Canada.
I hope that we can worktogether at some point in the
(58:42):
future.
Sheesh, Sheesh, Sheesh, Sheesh.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
That came out of nowhere.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (58:53):
Nice, it kind of worked.
Nice, I wonder, could you guysproduce a binding agent?
No, they have a special nextproject for Astrolabs.
Speaker 5 (59:07):
We like to think that there's nothing we can't do.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
That's great.
Just a little bit Guys, thelittle bit Doc Brown in the back
cooking up.
That's great.
Where can they find you boys,where can they find?
Speaker 5 (59:20):
us.
Yeah, you can find us onInstagram at Astrolabs 710.
Beautiful.
Or you can follow our newInstagram, fruityhootyflav.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
Yeah, it was fruityhooty it was
fruityhootyflav Fruityhootyflav.
Speaker 5 (59:32):
We look at fruityhootyfrave and fruityhooty
is spelled F-R-O-O-T-Y.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (59:39):
You have to fruit the hoot.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
It's been really nice getting to know you boys.
Go buy some rosin rolls or somesolvent list from Astrolabs.
Speaker 5 (59:53):
I just hope a baller jar of dab light.
Speaker 4 (59:55):
We appreciate your support, boys.
We really appreciate the lovewe feel.
Like Cosmic Charlie's andAstrolab is like a match made in
heaven.
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
That's it, buddy.
Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
We'll keep bringing the fire and you guys keep
putting it out there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, thanks for having us.
We'll come visit you boys inAlberta.
I've never been to.
Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Alberta, come up for a stampede.
There we go, two of ourfacility.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Nice Sounds good.
We'll be back next week.
Have a good one, Peace boys,thanks for having us.
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