Royal Harvest in Canada's Cannabis Wilderness with Kevin Varner, review by Tamara Lilien

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Embark on an off-the-grid adventure with Kevin Varner, the mastermind behind Royal Harvest's award-winning cannabis strains. This episode sees us venturing into Kevin's world, where the untamed BC wilderness meets the pinnacle of cultivation craftsmanship. Discover the secrets behind strains like Sherbo and Frosted Fruit Cake, and learn how Kevin's dedication to the craft has led to his strains' triumphs in the face of nature's challenges. Catch our friend Tamara Lilien in the second segment for her review of Kevin's magic!

From the shores of Nova Scotia to the community that shaped his green thumb, Kevin's tale is one of resilience and growth. He shares his philosophy on cultivation, grounded in simplicity and effectiveness, which has helped new growers achieve quality without complexity. We tackle the transition from legacy methods to the legal sector, discussing the meticulous process required to maintain the soul of cultivation at a commercial scale. For those with a passion for the plant, Kevin's insights offer a roadmap to cultivating cannabis that stands out in quality and character.

As we wrap up our conversation, we give you a front-row seat to the cutting-edge of cannabis cultivation techniques. Learn about the art of enhancing terpene profiles, why General Hydroponics nutrients might just be your best friend, and the delicate dance of lollipopping and plant defoliation. Whether you're a seasoned grower or just starting to nurture your first plant, this episode is ripe with wisdom, inviting you to deepen your understanding and appreciation of the art and science behind growing top-tier cannabis. Join us, and let Kevin's journey inspire your own path in this ever-evolving industry.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm Sean, I'm Charlie and this is higher orbit Woo.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
What do you got?
You were fired up there, dude.
So we got an amazing guest, ourboy Kevin Barnett.
He's the CEO and master growerfrom Royal.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Harvest.
Yes, our homie from RoyalHarvest.
He's a master grower, winner ofthe Best Craft, cannabis, the
Rolls-Bole, the Unicorn MusicFestival this past summer, aka
the Unicorn Cup, yeah, yeah,true, kevin, yeah, you bet
that's a.
And the Vancouver CollectorsCup, yeah.
And I got a say man Like I havetried your weed before because
you were blessed enough to likebe a fan since day one, and you

(00:56):
sent us You're like bro, yes,sir, because you got to know who
Royal Harvest is.
And as soon as you sent usthose first samples and I got a
say man like this is even moredials than the last time you
sent it, like it's just so wewere talking about this earlier.
I agree, it's got a gassyforward with like hints of that
like candied orange and likesome baked good notes in there,

(01:16):
some sort of that cakey-ness.
It smells fantastic.
And then what's the other oneyou got?
It's the Sherbo.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, this one took.
This is the one that took theUnicorn Cup.
This one was the Collectors Cup.
That was it.
The Frosted Fruit Cake was theCollectors Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I know it.
Oh man, I know like they'relike all your babies and stuff,
like, do you have a favorite?
If you had to pick one, I guessit's hard, right, you know?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I'm looking forward to exploring what I have had for
such a long time.
You know it's all.
This stuff is great, beautiful,but I'm excited to see what we
can create and do.
I have a lot of old breedingsthat I haven't even touched Like
full stick test buddy, Likethat's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, man, so dense amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, you know, you can find, when you squeeze it,
different notes every time.
Right, Dude, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm going to roll some of that up, if you don't
mind.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, absolutely, that's what it's here for,
absolutely.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
That's a.
Wait, that's a fruit cake.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
This is the Sherbo.
This is the Sherbo.
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This is my first and it'samazing.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
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Speaker 3 (02:39):
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Speaker 2 (02:43):
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Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, so I'm almost confused.
We were talking a little bitbefore the show, of course, and
I was.
You know we were loving theweed.
Was this grown like off-grid,like you're coming all the way
from BC with this fire-bashingrate?
What's the story with that?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
You know it's a complete crazy story the whole
to be here right now.
But as far as what's going onin the legit market and
happening for me now, I ended upbeing very blessed to get this
opportunity.
But you know, in life we getmany opportunities and it's
finding those right ones.
This was what I'd say wasalmost an impossible opportunity

(03:26):
, like it was almost three and ahalf hours, four hours, one way
from where I lived.
It's in when I say the middle ofthe BC wilds, it's in the
middle of the BC wilds.
Like no power runs offgenerators, the homesteads are
all off, like solar panel andstuff.
So it was not only almostimpossible to get services out
there, trimmers, everything isso costly because now I'm paying

(03:49):
extra to come finding Airbnb,we're running off a diesel and I
mean when I tell you some ofthe most insane problems trying
to get this to market, I've hadto battle, like in the minus 40,
shutting generators off torooms that were built not proper
.
So it's been, pardon me, abattle to get to where it is.
But, yeah, completely off grid.

(04:10):
Every flower that has been onthe market so far from us has
been grown off grid.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh, wow, yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, so it's, it's.
It's like I said, nothing comeseasy in life.
That's crazy.
Yeah, I mean, what are yougoing to do with it?
So I've been very blessed andit's, you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's creating a good jam from you know, at this point
, that's awesome, man, and Iguess so you know, going through
that challenge and just kind ofbreaking through the other side
, yeah absolutely.
And and then I guess touchingon it, so we're going to
hopefully expect to see some ofthis your gelati's out in the
market in Ontario.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah, that came down through joint venture.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Joint venture was had some skews down here.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
I believe it was a rotating skew, so they were able
to put a few different flavorsdown here for me, which was good
, but you know again, it wasn'tthe push that we know.
So it's just one step at a time.
It was only very small, Like we.
You know, we're 40 light microat that point, so but now we
just we got the frosted fruitcake coming for spring as well
as the gelonade vape.
So it's we're looking forwardto, you know, the doors open.

(05:06):
Now we're ready to start reallyramping up, bringing in some
new and crazy, amazing, amazingstrains and some old schools,
and you know Ontario's huge,Like I'll be very proud to be
part of the Ontario market andlooking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
You can't wait to see it.
Dude, how did you end uplanding, I guess at West,
because you mentioned you knowyou're from the East Coast
originally.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, Well, you know it's a East Coast player boy,
but we're going in the car tothe bar, yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Not very far, but yeah, no, it's just where I come
from.
You know it's great people,amazing place, but it's it's,
you know it's.
It's almost like the wild West.
So you know it was part of life.
You're looking at what am Idoing with myself and where am I
?
So I had an opportunity tofirst go to Alberta with my

(05:51):
brother and we hit up theall-in-pass so I was still doing
my medical grows there, doing abunch of brokering, da-da-da.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
And then about Was this?
What year was this Like?
When did you start?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
And you did, you work with your brother then too,
like growing.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
No, I was like I said this we'll go like this, start
it at the like the age of 12.
You know what I mean.
So my family, where we comefrom, like there wasn't a lot
money, was short.
Nova Scotia has always beentight, highest taxes, not much
work so it was always a struggle.
So you know what, at a young ageI would watch them struggle to
pay the bills right A little bit.
You know they always work hardbut it's a struggle.

(06:25):
So growing up in the communityI did A lot of.
My friends' parents were allabout cannabis.
Like you know, these guys havebeen growing since the beginning
at times.
So at the age of 10, 11, we werelearning about it, seeing it
was we, you know, we would betaught the medical properties,
we would be told the goodness ofit as well, as we knew it would
help subsidize some income.
So, you know, at the age of 12,our member mum saying to me

(06:48):
what are those in other window,ledge up pots my up up, pop my
first seedlings, right.
So by the age of 12 years old,that summer of 13, I was hanging
parents plants in my parents'basement and they're like how
long does the house have tosmell like this?
So I mean they chose like I wasadopted by them, right, and
they chose to.
You know, and I think throughthat, I had a lot of confusion

(07:10):
in my life on who I am, what Iwas looking for and what I was
searching for, and it took me,you know, into my 40s before I
realized that's inside myself,right.
So my parents chose to love meand just let me be me.
They never fought it, theynever embraced it.
I come from a very, like I said, rough area.
Great people, honestly, butwhen there's nothing and it's

(07:30):
like doggy dog world, it's, it'srough and I mean I make my own
decisions in life.
I put myself where I was.
But all of those experiencesand all that stuff that I had to
go through was for a reason,and you know kind of why we're
sitting right where we are rightnow, very blessed.
You know pure faith and beliefand yourself, you know, know
that you can get there no matterwhat, and it's kind of in a
lifelong story to be herethrough that stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's amazing, man.
That's such a cool story.
Were your life, family likefarmers, by trade, like other
things, not just cannabis.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Well, no, my, my family was, was, my parents were
not a boat cannabis at all, butthe neighborhood I grew up in,
the families I grew up around,like these guys were going down
to Mexico to get weed, drivingstraight across the borders and
all the way back.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Sorry to interrupt.
You Pass me the shirbol I swearto God like.
Burner, you're a joker.
It says this is a two gram cone.
This is definitely more thantwo grams.
Like there's no, like I anywayscontinue where you're.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, no, I was just saying the community I come from
.
They have been involved incannabis for a very long time.
So my family wasn't about it,but the neighbors and the my
some of my best friends parentswere.
So through that I was exposedand taught the right way and
taught the simple sciences.
And I mean I've triedeverything.
I've been the worst grower ever.

(08:45):
Do you know what I mean?
To where I've got to a pointwhere I'm very proud of what I
do.
So you know it's been tryingevery feed program, trying
everything under the sun lessons, man.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
People got to remember that, right.
I don't know you said it like.
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
You learned every time you fall in your face and
you got to get this frostedfruit cake like just that shot
of that.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, I'm really digging.
You know what I really enjoy?
The moisture level and the cure.
It's like spot on.
I'm sure about two you know,and it's really tough when
you're selling that dense.
I feel like yeah it's.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know it's again.
Years and years of trial anderror.
You know years of having greatcures, years of having bad cures
, but now it's become consistent.
You know where it's, to a pointwhere it's almost.
You don't have to think aboutit, you just tell it's instinct.
And the cool thing is, though,I've spent the last so many
years when the market startedgoing real bad, going and
helping guys out, and so I knowI can emulate that.

(09:36):
I can teach that passion.
You know it's it's been a longtime coming, but I can walk into
a facility and I can teach themthe same philosophies and
methods.
It's so simple, Like I made it,so I can still have a life here
.
I'd be like running four or 500lights with a couple guys in
the back seat and making it popoff, but I was still able to
have a little bit of a liferight.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
So it's do you think a lot of growers now are over
complicating things?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
then I guess, no, I, you know what.
To each their own.
There's so many different waysto get there and hats off to
everybody, but I've tried it all.
And then when I got seriouswell, not serious, but when I
started thinking about the legalmarket and really dialing it in
, I went all the way back to thesimple science that I always
ran and literally I've beenconsistently cut clean, fill,

(10:22):
flip.
You know, in the in the legacymarket, I was 365 days with my
flower lights.
We would cut a room down, haveit clean, that day refilled and
by the next morning we're dayone in flower.
And it was that consistency,right.
But we need to slow it down alittle bit in this side because
there's a lot of cleaning, a lotof, you know, technical stuff,
but I get it and I understand it, but still we're still on that

(10:44):
point where we cut clean, prettymuch fill and flip right.
So it's very simple, keep itsimple.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
You're so passionate man, like, honestly, no wonder
the weed tastes so good.
Honestly, dude and I'm notsaying this lightly, nobody paid
me to say this this is some ofthe best legal weed I've seen,
like no joke.
The fossil fruit cake isphenomenal.
I can't wait to see it come onOntario, dude.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, I can't wait to bring it here to me and, like
Ontario is, as you guys know,it's like the biggest cannabis
market in the world and you knowwe're fickle motherfuckers and
I understand that and it's kindof it's a kind of spot where you
can get lost too.
So to me, it's about you knowit's you, just you, just it
comes down to doing it right,because you know, respect
Ontario and how you guys aredoing it and you know it's all

(11:26):
about elevating.
It's not like I want to come inand just you know, royal, this
royal, that no, I want to comein and just put my best into it.
So it makes it better for youknow, myself and all those
around, and you know, in that inturn we get a better industry.
As I was saying to you earlier,it's kind of like what happened
in the first five years.
We really lost our respect towhat we were.
You know, we were the reason.

(11:47):
People were paying their bills,the markets were functioning and
when they cut that off, youknow, everything went to a
screeching halt and then, whenbig money came in and thought
they could just create thisamazing industry, it doesn't
work that way, it doesn't.
You know it's like the golfcourse analogy.
The first guy comes, he buildsa golf course, he goes broke
building it.
Second guy comes in, finish it,gets it right and makes money.

(12:09):
So you know you've seen thefirst wave that happened.
Everybody came in, they dumpedmoney, figured here.
This is no, it's not easy togrow weed.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's.
Yeah, it's not easy to growweed no one.
And then scaling it up to thelevel that these people are
trying to scale it up to isnumber two.
Not easy, and you're going tolose something Ultimately, kev,
don't you agree?
Man?
Like it's pretty hard to likeput as much love and tender care
into like the kind of piecethat you're caring for for the
frosted root cake.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
It comes down to the people.
Like I said, I've just you knowI'm just scaling myself.
Do you know what I mean?
So I'll be honest.
I've got my first big roomrolling in at this point.
It is the most stinkiest,stickiest I have had since I can
remember, because I've not hadmy best days in the legit market
yet Right.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
How big is your room?

Speaker 4 (12:56):
right now.
Well, the new facility, it'smultiple.
Oh sorry.
Okay, so we have the 40 lightmicro, we have the 40 light
micro and then we went into, wejust went into a standard, okay,
so it's, it's apparently we'regoing to get into that next
segment, so I'm jumping the gun,as I usually do.
It's all good, man, listen, it'sjust exciting to sit down and

(13:17):
chop it up with you guys.
It's it's been a long timewaiting.
I enjoy what you guys are doing, cause I mean not only me here
to see you guys.
I'm here to see you guys.
You know like I love whatyou're doing.
You guys are giving guys likeme, brands like me, an avenue
for to be heard, for people tounderstand us and who we are.
You know like I'm here becauseof passion and love for what I
do, like I've been throughfucking excuse my language Hell.

(13:40):
Okay, good, I've been throughyou know, honestly, hell and
back, but I still got up everyday, it didn't matter and kept
putting the working.
You know, like to me it's likelead by example.
I still make mistakes, you know, I still fail myself and get
upset, but I still it's mindset.
It's.
You know you become what youthink about.
And that's what one of thegreatest people in my life
taught me.
And the last year since I gotright with myself, new cannabis

(14:03):
was my gift.
But I honestly feel my purposeis more than that.
It's, you know, to help elevatethis industry, because I
believe this industry can createreal change in the world.
Right, I always say it comesfrom the earth.
It's going to give back to theearth, Right, so that's my
feeling towards it.
So it's, you know, I'm all inright.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
I definitely love what you stand for, man.
I think that, like I love ourcommunity for sure, I feel like
coming into this new legalmarket as it grows, it's like
still kind of finding itsidentity in a way.
Here's to that.
But I definitely, you know,thanks to everyone who supports
and you know supports smallbrands, and I mean you're vastly

(14:43):
growing right, like so.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Trying to.
I'm trying to.
You know I want to get it right.
You know I want us to get therecognition we deserve.
You know it's.
I feel like.
You know it's almost beenembarrassing what has happened
From the beginning, right, likepeople were getting such poor
quality at first and you know itwas a horrible introduction to

(15:05):
what.
Yeah, it should be right.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
So you know it's a yeah, for a lot of people I
probably was there.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Introduction yeah, that's a good point, man Um Kev.
I gotta say, man, like yourweeds really really good.
Like, how did you incorporatesome of your like legacy
techniques into your cultivation?
Now it's like is that whatseparates you apart, you think?

Speaker 4 (15:25):
it's all legacy like.
This is a Lifetime of gettingto where I am like.
My feed program is 100% made upby me.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
That's sick.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, so you know it's I've.
It's just been a long time ofof trial and error, trying this
product, that product you know,realizing what works, and then,
like I said, I get it.
I got it simple and now it'sjust the little tweaks that help
perfect what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's incredible, dude.
We really love it.
I love the frosted fruit cake.
I have a gift for you.
I do have.
I wanted to let you know thatwe got these in.
We grew some.
Willie, I know you've beenfollowing us.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yeah, we're some really wonder, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
And so we got some Willie's wonder seeds for you
here.
I also got these killer ogbeautiful as well, that kind of
your bank man I know you'll putthem to good use absolutely.
And then we got some of ourHush that was washed by by Bam
grown.
You've been so generous andthank you so much for for coming
man and being on the show.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
No, thank listen.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I decided you couldn't send you home
empty-handed.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
No, no, this is honestly a blessing to me.
Like I look at my life rightnow and I was, you know, I think
about when I was like 13, 14,saying to my mom this is what I
want to do forever.
You know, I got to a point inmy life when I was like 16 and
I'm looking around going am Idoing wrong?
But I'm helping peopleFacilitate where they never
could.
I'm helping people put dinnerand food on tables and I'm like

(16:47):
I never felt like I Was doingwrong.
Like I said, and well, you know, I look at it like this.
I do feel like I've been guidedto be where I am and I share a
story with you that I share witha lot of people.
So this is kind of off topic acannabis, but it's just where my
heart is.
So in my early 20s I was datingthis amazing woman and she

(17:08):
ended up dying in a car accident.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
So, about.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
So about this is this is listen to this.
So about two years later I'mpulling on to the highway and
I've never picked up ahitchhiker and I never did again
.
And I'm in my sports car and Ibarely put friends in there and
there's this old, scummy guyhitchhiking, and step voice in
my head said Kevin, you got topick him up.
So I stopped and picked thisguy up.
We start talking and caraccidents come up.
I'm like, yeah, no, my girldied in a car accident about two

(17:33):
years ago.
He's like really, my daughterdied in a car accident about two
years ago.
It ended up being trees, hisdad.
He broke down in tears.
It was like I've been wantingto meet you since they're
passing.
They told me how happy she was,but I kid you not.
I've been through such madnessand wild story yeah like that
same voice has you know, whetherit's your instinct or whatever

(17:54):
you believe in, but that samevoice has Got me to this point
and it's like just keepfollowing, just keep opening the
doors and away we go and lookat me.
I'm sitting here with you guysright now you know what I mean
getting ready to bring somebeautiful weed into the Ontario
market, like it's.
It's.
I'm so humbled and so blessed,you guys, and I can't thank you
guys enough, so I mean to giveme a gift, is like.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
So thankful, but just to be here, you got with you
guys, is the true gift, like itreally is.
This is this is huge for me.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I appreciate you made it all the way across Canada
and I can't say this one you'vebeen following us since day one,
so fun, and day one supporterAbsolutely right and it's nice
that we made it happen andwelcome to Toronto.
Thank you very much, you knowwhat?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, that's a perfect way to leave us off.
I just want to say, you know,thanks to everyone who supports
small brands, who supportshigher orbit.
Go support Royal Harvest, grabyourself a sheesh I was.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
So the sheesh Support them.
I got an email from my homie,michelle, somewhere in the
United States.
She said that she's looking tobreak into the cannabis industry
and Ask me for some advice.
So it was the first piece offan mail I've ever gotten, so
I'm gonna show you, michelle.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Thanks, michelle, thanks for listening and shout
out to Vansity Seth for hookingall this up buddy, I almost got
my back brother.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Shout out Vansity Seth.
Thank you, homie.
We'll be right back with Kevfrom Royal Harvest.
We're back Back of the shop andwe're still open hustling

(19:29):
deliveries.
Baby, let's go oh the door.
We're back with our friend,kevin from Royal Harvest and a
very special return co-host.
Wait for it.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Somalia.
So many things world-classreally.
We're gonna get a great reviewout of her tomorrow, Lilian.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, we just smoked that box of fruit cake.
Kevin, so much love and tenderloving, growing amazing this
into thank you delicious dude.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
What do you think tomorrow?
Yeah, I frosted fruit cakeaficionado.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Why don't you open that jar?
You want to start withappearances and look and aroma
and all that.
Where would you like to start?
Hi, happy to be here, thank youso much for having me lovely to
meet you, you're wonderful.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I loved here in your segment.
Thank you for super fascinating.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Thank you so much.
Inspirational welcome back.
Not gonna lie, we we alreadysmoked some of this, so you know
we might be somewhatintoxicated, but it will not
prevent me from expressing myabsolute, absolute delight at
this, that top.
Nugget is wild I when you smellit, your eyes kind of roll to

(20:40):
the back of your head a littlebit.
I mean, would it beinappropriate to call it
orgasmic?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I'm not sure.
Oh damn, I love it.
But you know, just I said theclosest thing to a legal quad
right, Wouldn't you agree?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, yeah, this definitely falls into the
category of exotic quads.
From my perspective, the lookof it, the smell, the smell is
just extremely exciting, andwhat I was saying earlier is
this flower translates in itstaste so substantially.

(21:17):
It's rare to smell a flower andactually taste exactly what
you're smelling from firstinhalation to the filter.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
No lie, I totally agree.
Start to finish.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
It like coated them out a little bit.
It like coats the mouthcompletely Really Like
tongue-tickled in the nicest way.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Tongue-tickling turps .

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I think we could call it like a lip smacker, you know
, like Tongue-tickling turps,tongue-tickling turps, yeah yeah
, I feel like you should putthat on a T-shirt.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
I like that name Tongue-tickling turps.
Tongue-tickling, teeth lickingI'm looking at my new T-shirt, I
have the new higher orbit, bythe way.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Nice, nice.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, yeah, we're taking pre-orders now.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Rocking that hash hole.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Shout out to HybridVisions.
I think this is a sample, but Ithink it looks great.
The color's really pop.
You have the little sheesh sodalike orbiting the hash hole,
it's dope.
Shout out to Sheesh.
And Sorry, back to Tamara.
I kind of stole your thunderthere.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Not at all.
Not at all.
This is a thunderous game thatwe're all playing.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
I just like to say it's To me it's interesting
because in the black marketlegacy you just you know you get
it out, it's out the door.
But since coming into the legalside, it's like the way it's
analyzed and looked at, youreally start to understand just
kind of what you have right,because I mean, you've got to
get lost in the rat race, youknow, for the last so many years
so to have people that areactually focused on showing

(22:41):
different strains and differentqualities so people can
understand it like you know,like liquors and stuff like that
right.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Absolutely, and I think you know there's
definitely a consumer out therethat really cares about a high
quality flower that is bothbeautiful in its look, correct
moisture content and just smokeslike a dream.

(23:07):
I'm just checking out thetricomes right now.
I'm pretty excited about whatI'm seeing.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
You've seen a lot of representations of frosted
fruitcake, am I not mistaken?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I have.
I'm a frosted fruitcake junkieFanatic.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Fanatic, yeah, that's much better Not to be worried
about that, not to be worriedabout that.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I think it's my number one, yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's a very pleasant.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Gas fruit baked goods and the smells on this I could
just I could talk about this forlonger than we have available,
because it's just so robust inits expression.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Now it's a fruity Papazol G wedding cake cross.
Yeah, am I right about that?
Yeah, okay, interesting.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
You guys just sacred cuts, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm kind of excited.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
This is the story on the Fino.
Did you cut this yourself?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
No, no it's the breeder's cut.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Got it.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Okay, yeah, so it's pretty amazing, right Like it's,
and what we pull out of it isjust different.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
It's really special.
The gas forwardness of it,complimented by baked goods and
a multitude of fruits, is reallyexciting.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
And it's exciting it's going to be the first
flower we have coming to the.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
OCS.
Right, so it's yeah, so it'llbe.
When's this coming on?

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Well, supposedly for their spring launch, okay.
Yeah, so we just got yeah, sowhenever we're getting this is
all new to me.
Like I said, I'm learning onthe fly I went from, like I said
, here's a chance on this microin the middle of nowhere to like
, okay, now you got to figureall of it out.
There's so much back end.
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Wow, very exciting.
I'm definitely going to bescooping some up ASAP, if I
don't just take this home withme the Royal Harvest Banner
right.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah, when.
Yes, yeah.
When are we going to have CDs?

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Like April, I'm hoping for like 420 before that
you guys have it and can youremind me what your Instagram
handle is?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I must follow you.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, it's royal underscore harvest CC and the
CCs for craft cannabis Beautyyeah.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I will say that you know, if you are someone who is
looking for a really robustlyflavored, very high quality
exotic quad, I would reallyconsider Royal Harvest Frosted
Fruitcake, because I think itknocks it out of the park for me
.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Oh, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I think Kevin's entering into a competition is
the knockout euphoric, knockout,tko, knockout, extravaganza,
something like that.
I don't know.
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (25:41):
more about the competition.
I think it's believers theheavyweight.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Heavyweight.
Thank you very much.
I'm still catching up, so guyshave been heavyweighted by the
fruitcake.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
It's coming up in the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's coming up in the competition so you can buy
tickets.
Do you know how to buy tickets?

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah, like I said, I'm not 100%.
I'm not bringing the weed, I'mjust bringing the weed I meant
to follow up on how you can goto that event.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Kev is entering his Frosted Fruitcake in the
competition along with a bunchof other heavyweight growers, so
that should be fun.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
And considering it's already an award winning
cultivar, you're set up forsuccess.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, very blessed.
I took the collector's cup andit was very humbling because
when you could tell, becauseeverything was in gyres numbered
and when they hit that one itwas just a different vibe Like
it was very humbling, it wasjust like wow, so it was
something special, right.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
The word that they use in that cup often is loud
yeah, and I think thatdefinitely applies.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, thank you very much.
What is there anything in thepipe man Like?
What's the next cultivar?
I know we've talked a lot aboutthe Frosted Fruitcake you got
your shirt about.
Is there anything like you cankind of divulge?

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah well, not divulge, divulge, but just know
that we're going to be rotatingstuff.
That's been here.
Now that we have a little roomto breathe, cool, you know,
cause it was a little restricted, I only had so many much I
could play with.
But now that it's things havechanged, now it's time to really
have like I was we were talkingabout earlier.
We're going to bring some oldschools back.
I'm looking to do some cool mixpacks with old school, new

(27:08):
school.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of differentthings coming down the pipe.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
That's fun Like nostalgia with some of the new
stuff, absolutely it's exotic,but then you get something old
school, classic.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Absolutely, that's fun, Absolutely.
So it's just.
You know it gives you the bestof both worlds, right.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
So you know you're looking at having a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Collaborations are going to be huge.
Like I've got a lot of greatextractor friends and guys that
want to do a lot of work, sothere's a boat to be a lot of
some amazing things like poppingoff, coming down the pipeline.
This is just the beginning,Like the door is just getting
open, we're just getting rolling.
So you know, as it's like, nextcomes the Fino hunting, the
breeding, the everything youknow.
It's just going to be a lot ofexciting times coming right,

(27:47):
Like that's super exciting.
Congratulations you know it'sbeen a crazy 35 years, but this
last year has been like insane.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, that's wicked man.
I'm really glad that likelegacy growers are kind of
starting to come online andyou're starting to see like just
those roots kind of just beavailable and dispensers to be
accessible to everybody, right,and it's cool because you know
there's so many.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
You know, just, we're becoming such great friends.
All these other legacy growersit's not none of us.
The whole vibe out West rightnow is not the great challenge
against each other, it's thechallenge to overcome the
hurdles we're battling togetherRight.
So it's great to see all of us,legacy and craft guys, and we
all see the same vision.
We all know that.
You know we can't fight to bethat spot.

(28:32):
We all just fight together.
So we all get to our spots,right.
You know cause the piece of pieis big enough for everybody.
You know how big is your pieceof the pie.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
But it's there it's almost as a competition, but
it's not.
It's what you guys it's.
Yeah, I know what you're sayingWith cannabis.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
It speaks for itself Like it's, it's all West.
If you grew that weed, it goes.
You know, just be your best,put out your best and it'll come
.
You know, and it's, you know,everybody's kind of working.
It feels like it workedtogether by, but we're still all
trying to become our best.
You know, at the same time,right, so it's good.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I want to go back to something you said earlier for a
second.
Have you actually dabbed any ofthe extracted version of of
this frosty fruit cake by chance?

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yeah, a little bit it's.
It's insane Like there is likeyou even put that in the gummies
and it smells like the fruitcakes.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Like yeah, it is insane.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
What my buddy, uh Ryan, who was, was with riot
well is Ross and unity in them.
He's going to come on.
We're getting ready to dosolving this labs at the new
place, right, so he's.
You know, when I was legacy, hewould had access.
So he has done a lot of hemakes diamonds the cleanest
diamonds you've ever seen out ofmy trim, you know.
So it's amazing what can bedone with it.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
So I can only imagine what uh did?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I hear you got a hash .
Can we talk about that or no?

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I'll just say there's some cool stuff going on with
some amazing people, you know,and it's all about us all coming
together and it's great to see.
It's like we were talkingearlier, you know.
I had kind of said you know, Iwant to bring that community
back, but you were like, can itbe done?
We need to create thatcommunity.
So that's what we're in theprocess doing now in the
cannabis and it is creating thecommunity that needs to be, and

(30:13):
I see it happen every day.
The changes started.
We just got to keep at it, keeppushing, and it's, it's coming,
I mean for your kids and theirkids.
You know, like we're thebeginning.
We're the ones are going tostart the change.
You know what I mean.
So we start now.
So, like when we're dead andgone, there's a better way,
there's a better system, there'sa better program to.
You know, there's so much morewe can do with this.
It's we're being repressed onwith all the bullshit, right.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
So totally do.
Yeah, I think you're right.
It's all about collaboration,non-competition.
I guess that's why I keepcutting better yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Healthy competition yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
That's when it comes down like at the end of helping
each other.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, Right, you're still a company, you're still
striving to be your best as acompany, but you don't need to
hurt anybody.
Step, you know like you got tojust keep working in your own
lane.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
What do you think were the biggest hurdle?
Man Like making the transition?
Anybody listening to like Idon't know.
You help them out.
The biggest one of the?

Speaker 4 (31:04):
hardest parts was like literally leaving
everything behind, but nothing Istill ain't made it down.
Do you know what I mean?
I've been honestly on that,sleeping on coaches.
I've had like shut up the vansthat he set again.
Cooler cooler is the food tohelp me out, Cause I'm I'm not
the guy to ask.
You know what I mean.
So, because they've made it sohard for us to get there, it's

(31:25):
like the struggle's real.
Everybody is feeling it,Everybody.
Nobody is breathing it betweentaxes, between all the rent tape
, between all the fees.
Why are you raining?
Just a little break.
Let's start with a little andthen let's show them what we can
really do.
Like I said, we lost our respectin the beginning.
So now is our chance to buildit and as we gain respect as an

(31:46):
industry, as a business, as aperson and not looked at it, the
God has flipped.
You know what I mean.
Like it's as we get our respectback again.
You're so important because ofthe education, so huge, so we
need to educate and createcommunity.
So that's what we're going tostart doing and through that is
growth.
Like, to me, cannabis is mygift.
Making a real change, a realshift in the world is kind of my

(32:07):
, what I feel like I want to tryto do through this right.
So that's kind of the dream andvision I live with.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Agreed man.
Yeah, I totally think younailed something on the head
there.
Like ones, our industry kind ofdevelops, hopefully a little
more Like me and Charlie weretalking about this the other day
like I feel like we're nottaking seriously enough
sometimes like in the grantsschema, things does that make
sense and I kind of get like.
I don't know health care is moreimportant to get that, and
education, and.
But hey, man, we're paying alot of taxes here and I just

(32:34):
feel that like we should atleast be being heard.
We can and we're not beingheard right now.
So I know it'll come with duetime and due process, and
hopefully soon, but I'll hold mybreath, gotta, keep on fighting
the good fight, though, rightyeah.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Should get the numbers on that, like what the
legal cannabis industry adds,like to the GDP, like as a
percentage.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's substantial.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
It has to be right, Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
And the cannabis industry also saw the most
bankruptcies of any industryacross the board in the past
couple years or something.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's a fact which is pretty sad.
That sucks and I always saythat too Like we were like here
for the darkest days of thepandemic, right, like nobody was
like leasing anything likecommercial, anything right, so
except for the cannabis guys,and they had us welcome to us
with open arms, then if you knowwhat I mean, yeah, but anyways,
we'll get there, guys.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah absolutely.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Tax reform required sometime soon.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Immediately.
Yeah, it's like immediately,like truly like, come on, like
if they give us a little bitmore room to actually make, then
we can create more.
Like most of us are justlooking to grow this and make
this right.
Fire more people, yeah, youknow.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
so level up Absolutely More products and
then let the consumers pay.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Like the taxes can come through that channel.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, Absolutely Tomorrow.
Where can we find you onInstagram?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I am canna lily consulting.
That's new of my company and itis canna lilyconsulting.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
We'll be right back.
We're gonna get some North ofBrooklyn pizza with Kevin.
We need to eat.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Thanks for listening, guys.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I think it like.
Don't forget to follow ithigher orbit and drink a sheesh.
Sheesh is a great pairing withpepperoni pizza.
Oh yeah, don't forget.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Welcome back.
How was the pizza boys Fuckingfire?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Man Charlie is a newly found gluten intolerant.
Yeah, I'm giving Kevin thebackground.
It's awful Sucks, charlie theMrs Pizza.
He was very.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Shout out to North of Brooklyn pizza.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, shout out to homies.
I don't know if you guys saw onthe side of the box that said
plug grassy us.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
They always do something, really jokes.
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
And they drew a little animation of a plug.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
You got the plug.
Animation I wish we shouldtrack each time.
Each time was funny.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Cheech and Chong was great Cheech and Chong's funny,
I guess.
I don't know.
I was gonna ask them if I wasCheech.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
You must be Cheech and Chong I might have been it
known was Cheech and or ChongCheech and or Chong Cheech and
or Chong on the side.
Little Chuck, charlie's littleChuck.
Nice, yeah, we're back.
We're in the back of the shopwith Kevin Barnard and our homie
from Royal Harvest Definitelyzooed it off that weed.

(35:24):
I was just whiffing this shrewbow that you busted up, so this
is the other.
This is.
We'll also see this.
Yeah, one mistake in right,yeah, yeah, oreo and shrew bur,
right, yeah, oh man, it smellswonderful.
I was more inclined towards thefrosted fruitcake, but this
also just smells equally fire.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
That's kind of the cool thing about the program
that I can run whatever strainand we're going to pull that
real nice profile out right soyou're able to get that smell,
that flavor off each one.
It's great.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Interesting.
So do you find like you takethat same approach, Like,
speaking of the program, thestyle you grow?
You know you can't really likeexplain it, I know it's up in
the dome, but like what, whatdoes the program entail for you?
You know what can you share.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Well it's.
You know I keep it pretty basic.
Old school gorilla grower.
Right Like I'm in dirt.
You know I like my pots a bitbigger.
You know what I mean.
I grow a little bit bigger of aplant and you know the food
program is is.
I started off with GH and thentried everything, been through
everything and I'm still goingto even play around with more,
because we're always trying tolearn and progress.
But I went back to that forthese last so many years and

(36:32):
it's been really consistent tome, just through some numbers
together, played a little withthis, kept it simple and, yeah,
very blessed.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Wow, there must be some variation amongst the plant
.
I guess it just kind of comesnaturally as you're applying the
principles that you well yeahit's.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
You know I can run multiple strains of room and you
know same program, same planand quality is just there, right
?
So it's.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, man, I'm super into telling me I just started
growing.
I'm running my second run andmy little AC infinity got a
white truffle genetic and then amotor breath, which I'm really
interested about, and it's thefirst time I'm growing from
clone, which is like a lotdifferent from seed, as you know
.
Yep, I guess man tell me thegive me some advice as like, as

(37:17):
like an amateur grower doing asecond grow.
You know, I want to, I want to.
I have a question for you.
I guess I'm going to ask youlike a point blank.
I was thinking like I wasreally happy with, like I think
you saw the weed that I grew.
I did.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
I actually have a piece of it.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
There you go, I think , for a first effort is pretty
good, but I wasn't happy with,like, I just want more Terps.
Obviously, you want more Terpsevery time right, you're trying
to get better.
But how?
How do I dial that in man, like?
I guess it's hard to put thatinto like words.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
It is like it's like everybody's got their way of
going.
Everybody has a food, a feedprogram.
Yeah, you know, mine has justbeen years of a little bit of
this, little less of this.
This is working, this isn't so.
I've seen with you whateveryou're using, pay attention to
it, watch your plant, see how itreacts.
Right You'll, you know, you'llprogress your own style, get

(38:04):
your own flavor yourself.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
One thing I had a question about and it came to me
I was thinking about recentlyis I mixed my nutrients in a
bucket Like do I need?
How do I?
How do you mix your nutrients?
Like just something, does amachine mixer for you?

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Is that definitely something that you have to work
with?
And tanks, was circulatingpumps right, so the tanks were
just circulating themselves overwhat we're mixing, right?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Because I found that I was getting, I think, like
nutrient burn and I'm wonderingif it's because I was like not
mixing my nutrients.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
You got to circulate just get a little so you can get
a certain stick.
Well, you can even get little,just little pumps that you can
stick to the side of that tank.
Okay, turn it on and it'll justkeep it moving for you Like a
little aerator.
Yeah, yeah, air aerator.
There's tiny little pumps.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
What Not?

Speaker 4 (38:43):
liquid, pardon me In the liquid, yeah, so it just
keeps it circulating the wholetime, so it's always staying
mixed, right.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah, and I use these self watering pots, the ones
from the underneath.
Would you put your nuts in thewater underneath or should I
still give them like on top, ontop, on top?
All right, I was making sure.
I was wondering.
I was like I don't know man,I'm just Me.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
That's my opinion.
You know what?
But my opinion.
I would just keep it simplewhile I'm on top.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, I realized there was like a few.
I was like I have this likewealth of knowledge.
It's great.
I went on the show so I figuredI'm gonna try to keep it.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
I try to keep the environment and everything else
away.
I used to get so technical whenI started my round and have my
water a little chilly.
Then I would warm it up like Ihit the summer.
Then I would chill my water offagain towards the finish, right
Like I've done so manymanipulations in the environment
.
You know learning what does work, what doesn't work.
You know what temps you need,where you need to be, because a

(39:37):
plant doesn't know what time itis.
They know everything istriggered with their hormone
through temperature, so all ofthat indicates when their change
comes, what's going to change.
You know learning when thoseimportant changes come in your
strange right.
So getting that down.
You know getting your leafingon time.
You know you know all thatother stuff right, so it's fun
learning.
This has been the craziest,most blessed experience of my

(39:59):
life and to be here, being ableto really have a chance to put
my all into something that Itruly believe in like this.
It's like I said, so it's mindblowing right now.
So it's, you know.
Enjoy the process.
You know what I mean.
Grow the way you want.
You know you're going to do theresearch.
You're going to read, you'regoing to, you know, do your
thing, but just find it reallychanges like genetics.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Genetic it does, doesn't it?
And I guess I got to monitorthat too.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Like I said I, can I get the same results?
Yes, you know, sometimes I getheavier yielders, less, but the
quality is still there.
So I mean, when you get thatsystem that works technically it
should work on every strain.
But you do have to make someslight adjustments because
different strains vary a bit.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
but you'll you'll learn them.
What are you growing?
So there's white truffles andthen motor head.
Motor head, White truffles andmotor head.
Yes, and I was taking back oneof the the best.
I went to a dispensary inSeattle and I asked the
bartender for the gaseous, thecrazy, the craziest gas he had

(41:01):
on his menu.
And I went to there was a crazysuper dispensary.
I wish I could remember thename of it, but the bartender
knew exactly, cause I had beento some other ones and, just
just like you know, you getvarying degrees of bartenders
that know you're talking about.
And this guy knew exactly andhe nailed it and he recommended
this.
It was called motor breathnumber nine and this is a motor
breath cross, so I was kind oflike just drawn to it for that
reason Cause it was somethingthat I really liked.

(41:23):
It was like I guess nostalgia orwhatever.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
No, I get it, and it's the fun thing about
cannabis.
There's so many differentvarieties, different smells,
different chase, so it's likethe chase almost never stops.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
That's the fun part, isn't it?
Absolutely, I guess you'reright.
You're always like the chase.
You nailed it.
That is what it is it's.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
It's harder when you say what's your favorite?
I don't know.
You know I'm still chasing thatdifferent, like there's so much
uniqueness in the mall, youknow, so it's flavor chasers,
yeah yeah.
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
It was a good way to put it.
I'm starting to like, notdislike things, or you know what
I mean.
Like I sometimes I used to notlike things, but it can always
be done.
Well, you know what I mean.
I can appreciate it for what itis.
Yep, it might not be for me.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
You know what I mean Exactly right.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah, everything has its place.
It's interesting to see allthese new genetics coming.
I wonder what I'll come up next.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
What's I gotta ask you, you know what's being a
leader like.
What's, what's it like on thegrower side of things?
You have like some, some peoplelike I know you're probably
really hands on, but you must,now that you're scaling up,
you've had to hire some peopleand boss up, right?

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yeah Well, the people that's the next level, right,
the next level is going fromlearning how to delegate and put
the system in place.
Put all that work into a planthat they see, okay, yeah, this
works.
It's not just him being handson.
He can really make this happen.
But I've been very blessed.
The place that we did scale tothe guy who's there, carl, he's

(42:42):
been there since pretty much thebeginning, got a great
assistant master grower Britt.
Like an amazing team Likethat's you could tell right from
the bat.
You know what they are capableof, who they are.
They're passionate about it,right.
They've been there through thegood and the bad times at this
place and I mean it were.
We've really come together as ateam.
They see my vision and it'slike it's showing.
Like that room is insane.

(43:03):
If you guys were closer I'd sayyou gotta come for a look
because it's like.
It's like, yeah, it's, it'sabout to be a I can't wait, man.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I'm sure your room is a crazy insane.
I've only been to BC once, butI look forward to getting back
out there.
I'll definitely come check itout.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Absolutely, it's a great state out there right now
for really for the cannabisindustry.
Everybody's on the same page,everybody's working to the same
goals and you know together it'sit's.
It's a real good scene there.
That's why I'm excited to cometo Ontario right Start start to
see how it plays out here andyou know work on it Like so much
respect to everybody down heredoing it and I want to see us
right across Canada to be ableto build together.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Can people grab your weed in BC right now?
Oh yeah, okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Did you grow, learn how to grow in BC?
How long you've been living outthere?
No, it started.
Like I said on the East coastSorry.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
It started there and then it just it's been like
everybody that I, all the olderguys that I kind of learned from
, all went to West.
You know what I mean, and theywere.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
You know that's what I was going to say, like I guess
, and typically, normallyspeaking, I would say, you
wouldn't say like the fire weedcomes from out East, would you?
No, no, no, but hey, man,you're changing the game.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Yeah, but it won't.
Yeah, it's, it's, you know, I,I am where I am because to do
what we want to do.
The hub of, you know, cannabisin Canada is BC you know what I
mean.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I would say for the map got right, yeah For the
power, for the history and yeah,the quality that's coming out
of there for so long.
Just the natural habitat,because you just like California
, like BC, right, you get the,you get the best raise the
maximum.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Yeah, you know, so it's, it's got to be, you know,
there to start for the homage ofit all.
But I mean this like I said,this is about to grow something
really great that's going tostretch right across the globe,
right, which is pretty coolfeeling.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
That's awesome.
Yeah, yeah, man, I feel likeyour passion and and and
everything that you do reallyshines through and I'm really
glad we were able to have you onthe podcast.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Like I said, a blessing for you guys to have me
.
It's about us all workingtogether to help each other, and
that's what's happening righthere.
It's beautiful to see.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
You want to tell us a little bit about your curing
process?
I feel like it's a reallyimportant underrated.
We always talk about that allthe time on the show, like I
guess obviously you can'tdivulge all your trade secrets
or anything like that, but youknow, I think it's like
something that gets overlooked alot of the time by a lot of
people.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Yeah, Every, every step is important.
I've learned how to cure manydifferent ways at many different
speeds, you know.
But in nowadays I let the plantspeak to me, like I look for
certain traits of where I am inmy dry and everything else where
I want to want to take that andcure that up.
And honestly, each strain iskind of different.
You know what I mean.

(45:34):
And each strain sometimes takesa bit longer and keeps.
Some takes longer and curebefore they pop.
So it's just learning thetraits of each strain you're
running and then, once you dialthat in, it's like clockwork,
you know.
So I mean, as far as timing,each strain is kind of different
a little bit.
You know what I mean.
Summer, you know, and, yeah,let the plant speak for itself.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Sounds like so much fun, definitely.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
You said about lollipopping being important.
Is that what you mean about?
Like, like de-leafing,defoliating?

Speaker 4 (46:00):
But yeah, you got it Lollipopping like definitely
important.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
That's the term.
Quote, unquote Well yeah, likeI always take too much off.
I guess I'm gonna I'm gonnavideo call you next time.
Yeah, absolutely, I'm like, I'mlike I don't know how to say
this, but I feel like I'm like Igotta take this one off,
because I took one off on thisside and then I got and then all
of a sudden I'm going no, Igive it too much hair cut, See
just the bottom ones no.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Yeah, well, for the most part, but there's a lot of.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Is that what I'm going for?
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
No, no, it's okay, but you just the leaves Like
they don't, you don't need yourbottom buds.
It's a waste of energy.
You know what I mean.
But again, I like to grow afull plant.
To me, I believe, the closestit is to its natural structure
is the most you're going to getout of it.
So I do manipulate, but I'm notan over manipulator.
I don't over leaf.
I do selective leafing.
I just pop out enough I can toget my light in, but I leave a

(46:46):
lot of leaf.
Do you know what I mean?
I bring it up, I let the straindictate myself.
It depends how big of astretcher it is.
Is it a short pants?
If it's short like you know,most of my bottoms anywhere,
like golf balls, right, so it'snot bad anyway.
But again, it's important toget rid of all that little stuff
.
Doing it good.
Open up your leafing to getlight inside, so even your
centers, you know, are gettingwhat they need.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Okay, thanks, man.
I think you articulated thatreally well.
I'm gonna like listen to thatin my head next time I'm doing
it.
Yeah, you can tell you getreally fired up.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
I love it.
Yeah, it is yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Passing it every day.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
We're gonna have to go see that facility at some
point.
Maybe that's the now, that'sthe journey.
That's the journey.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
That'd be good.
We'll do like a part two outthere.
There you go, man.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, that'd be amazing.
Yeah, we can't wait.
I'd love to go.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Because you guys do a little BC tour, right.
Yeah, man Charlie's on the road, I'd love to man, yeah.
So where are all?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
of the houses in the same.
No, they're kind of spread outin different parts of BC.
They're all in that samecommunity.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
All the growners, all the firing?
Well, no, that it's funny howit works.
When it first started with themicro, I lived three and a half
hours away from it, so I wasdoing a day so okay, the way
life worked Three and a halfhours, your micro dude.
One way, yeah, works each way.
I drive back, so seven hoursround trip a day.
Damn Plus work to make in themiddle of nowhere, running off a

(48:05):
generator.
So it has not been an easygrind at all, but you know how
it works.
So, anyways, the way lifeworked.
They ended up starting to spendmore time at the micro, but
then we get this new place thatis back where I first lived.
So now it's again.
Three and a half hours, themicro is still going.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's the last jar from that micro.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Oh wow, the one that you brought today is the last
jar from the micro.
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, so the new facility will stay tuned, but he
said it's going to be evenbetter, which I can't even
fathom.
Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Okay, and this is where I'm being for real, like
because of the obstacles, partof me and stuff I had to battle
with environment generatorsshutting down all the problems
that I had.
You know, nobody has really seenthe caliber of what I can do,
you know.
So it's, it's, I see what'scoming.

(49:01):
You know, I'm just from, I'mweak, going on week five in
there and I'm like man, thesmells, the stickiness is just
on a different level already.
So it's kind of like all right,now we're about to get serious,
Now we're about to see itReally cool caliber of cannabis.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
We're gonna see them in sevens, right?
I think yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Yeah, so.
So my plan is I I want to getinto everything, I want to fit
every need and every niche right, but I want to make them big
enough.
So they're.
I want to promote getting.
You know, I like a bigger joint, I like a bigger bag, yeah, but
you know I want to make it bigenough so people can access it
and it's not out of you know,out of a price range and out of
pocket for them to get.

(49:39):
And then, once it gets rolling,you know, like I said, we're
just coming out of the gatetrying to do it right.
So I mean, as we get rolling,we'll be able to fill every size
that's needed, right?

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Nice, I mean this to me.
Now I'm like rolling up anotherone, like I feel like this will
be the kind of flower that Icould like recommend to that guy
that Comes in and is like nah,bro, I'm just here like I get my
weed, you know other places,I'm just in a dispensary to grab
a little bit.
Today, like I feel like I couldconvince them.
Like now, man, things arechanging, yeah well you know
what I'm saying, like yeah, yeah, right.
Like I hate to say it, but thathappens a lot.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, but anyways, man, I mean that as a compliment
to you and the testaments, whatyou're doing, yeah.
I appreciate that Giving usreally good weed that I can
recommend confidently, you knowyeah, no, I appreciate.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
I had a pretty cool message there one time from a
quartz Creek which is adispensary in golden, and they
have sent me a message.
They're like I'm just lettingyou know that all the old
growers was all the old growersfrom town came and bought up all
the frosted fruit cake.
So to me that is importantbecause I don't, you know Y'all
was here, all your con legit andda da da.
But you know it's because wedid it's.

(50:44):
It really has to becomesomething right, you know, and
it's great to see the support.
You know what I mean in thelove like that.
So it's, it's super cool.
Yeah, so I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
No, yeah, I can't wait to grab bags.
But dude, yeah it's a blessing,yeah it's really cool we have.
We've come a long way.
I mean, you know, you'redefinitely I we're happy to
highlight you too as you enterthe market.
Yeah, people need to know.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to you winning this KO
competition.
That's coming out too, so yeah,good luck.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
I mean there's a lot of good growers in there, so I
mean I'm doing this for fun.
Winner lose, I'm gonna show up.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Sorry, maybe I was a little bit Over boystress, but
I'm just trying to give you howmany?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
how many people are entering, how many gross he
probably doesn't know.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking probably between eight
and ten eight and ten.
I think so.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
I'm not exactly sure, I'm just well you know what I
think is very cool, like so youmentioned it's gray market and
Hopefully there's more than onelegal Entry, but you're entering
and I remember we had someoneon.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Roger in the he happening sesh.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
We just got to keep that wasn't happening.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
That's like a lot more collaborations happening
and even if they are blackmarket people kind of coming on
the legal side.
It's just good to see right.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Did these do?
Eventually we need to, yeah,exactly.
Because of that right, yeah weneed more of that, you know like
, so it's absolutely yeah, no,we'll get better and better, and
it is getting better and betteras we're getting to the end.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I can't believe we're almost at the end of season two
.
I got to say thanks to all ourlisteners.
Subscribers if you're notsubscribing, thanks for
listening right now.
Hit the subscribe button.
Don't forget to give us afollow.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Yeah, we're sure with a friend, like if you're
getting some, some value out ofthe the conversations we're
having, we really appreciate itand that's how we can grow
organically.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yeah, absolutely You'll do.
Charlie fucking nailed it.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Thanks for calling the sheesh hotline Are you gonna
watch out?
Cuz zero and tell us about it.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
It always fucks it up .

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Matter of fact, tell us whatever, just hash it out.
You might end up on ourInstagram.
Yeah, sheesh.
Leave a message at the tone.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Maddie, you got to come meet our boy Kevin.
Yeah, what's up, matt?
You tried out your sheesh soda.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
How many cherries at a five.
Oh man, it's a five out of five.
Five cherries.
Yeah, man, it's so good.
I'm thinking like those donkeyKong cherries too, you know,
like the ones, like the big ones, and eat them.
And you're like, yeah, cherries, I don't know, no, there's
cherries.
Anyways, it's a hell of asheesh, sheesh, it's a hell of a

(53:36):
soda.
Thank you so much for joiningus today, kevin.
Thank you guys, fire weed can'twait to more.
Comes out much, very,absolutely blessed.
Thanks for joining us in thepodcast, bro.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Thanks.
I also want to shout out tothanks tomorrow for popping in
and checking on your cross forfree takeout.
It's a high praise.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Very, you know from a person that knows yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
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Yeah, expert, she's the best.
Yeah, you're coming by small,that's more.
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