Let Him Do His Damn Podcast | Bilal Young & Max Manticof

Bilal Young and  Max Manticof give their insight into the business of the comedy world, how every market across America is different, and the new gateways available like TikTok. The three cut deep into the mindset, the experiences, and the raw talent necessary to get them to the top of the comedy world, high as a mug!

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What's going on, y'all? We back. Welcome to Hilariously Blunt
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my guys in the building below, y'all. My God.

S2 (00:44):
Max. Hmm?

S1 (00:46):
Yes. We're having a mug, So.

S2 (00:48):
Excuse us. Excuse me. Yeah. Where are we go? You see,
I put up with the announcement VOICEOVER before we.

S1 (00:55):
Put the star in my voice. Everybody start, clap, clap.
He made us look up. Attention. Follow his finger. He's like,
We're starting. Welcome to the Hilariously Blunt podcast. I'm glad to
have you along. Who told me how you live? Come in.
What do you guys think about transgender people in sports?

S2 (01:12):
You say that twice before it was planned.

S1 (01:18):
How you feel about this? We that we just moved first.

S2 (01:20):
It was good. It was good. We'd, um.

S1 (01:23):
I'm here to talk to you.

S2 (01:26):
Good. Well.

S1 (01:29):
What do you think about that college out.

S2 (01:32):
Right?

S1 (01:33):
So I got two funny comedians here. My one from
New York, as you could tell. Other one from Ohio.

S2 (01:39):
Yeah, you could tell. Yeah, but you.

S1 (01:41):
Are coming too. But we are. Chop it up. Yeah,
but for real, though.

S4 (01:46):
Man, bro. Well, not right now, man. Yeah, right now, man.

S1 (01:50):
Yeah, I think abortion.

S4 (01:52):
Oh, man.

S2 (01:53):
Abortion should be legal.

S4 (01:54):
Hey, come. Hey.

S2 (01:56):
I'm just asking.

S1 (01:57):
How long you how long you've been doing comedy? You
started in San Diego, then?

S2 (02:00):
Yeah, 12 years.

S1 (02:02):
But you from New York got to have it everywhere. Yeah,
I just born there. Raised there. You know how like
you were born in Indiana? Yeah, Similar like that. And
I mean comedy in Indiana, too. Okay? I mean, I
do it now in New York. Yeah, but what I
did up backwards, would you.

S2 (02:18):
Would you start you.

S1 (02:19):
Start like, just, uh, speaking of some, do you know
Neil Brennan?

S2 (02:24):
Neil Brennan, The dude who I.

S1 (02:25):
Do not know. I met him at a bar, and
he told me about who he is. My bet he
was like, $300 each. And whoever does a make in
the first month pays the other friend. And it was
between me and Alex. And then I just went first.
He never went. He never paid me the 300, but
I started comedy.

S2 (02:39):
Never stopped in this frat. That's right.

S1 (02:42):
I was like, Yo, I did. At first I was like, Yo,
I get $300. I was fire and I was all
over Mike. And I was like, I would just keep
doing this.

S2 (02:50):
That's really what I like. That's hilarious. Well.

S4 (02:53):
That's really something that was, you know, homages do this.

S2 (02:57):
You thought of your too right?

S1 (02:58):
Or you did in Ohio.

S4 (02:59):
No, I started in Houston.

S1 (03:01):
Oh, you see, I forgot. You moved around. Yeah.

S4 (03:03):
Yeah.

S1 (03:04):
What was your first time? What got you into it?

S4 (03:07):
Oh, my son was born, and then I was. I
was always, you know.

S1 (03:10):
You were like, I don't want to be home.

S2 (03:13):
No, not around this time.

S4 (03:15):
No, I was just, like, going out.

S2 (03:17):
Actually. Things to do?

S4 (03:18):
Actually, no, because my son wasn't at home. Fucker. So
what you're saying my son was actually in the hospital, so.

S1 (03:26):
Not, you know.

S4 (03:27):
It inspired you. Yeah.

S1 (03:29):
Go hard. Yeah. Yeah.

S4 (03:30):
It was just like, yeah, why?

S1 (03:32):
But you already wanted to do comedy.

S4 (03:34):
And anyway, because I was already.

S1 (03:35):
A child, he was like, I'm going to take it
for real now. And I was like, I was think
about getting a kid, you know, for real. Now you're
going to go drop them. Yeah, you could adopt them.
You just pick up. Okay, so.

S2 (03:45):
There's that.

S1 (03:47):
Yo, there's mad kids out.

S4 (03:48):
There. You know, all the real shit. I can I
can tell you some shit about that. Well, yeah. On adopting, man. They, they,
they out here buying kids for real. Oh, I know
they are.

S2 (04:01):
Yeah. I put my email.

S1 (04:02):
Into a website once and 76 of them.

S2 (04:04):
Right. They said which one you are. And I was like,
I don't know if I'm ready.

S1 (04:10):
They made it very real. It really is that easy.

S2 (04:12):
Of dead broke. I'm dead.

S1 (04:14):
So you started comedy here and then you moved. Now
you live in New York doing it. How was it?
Is it a difference? Is a big difference On the
West Coast. These go it's the same shit. It's it's
all work. Like you just get on stage more, but
it's all the same thing. Everybody working the same way.
You're just around like bigger people. So you're like, okay,
the competition is higher. Like the bigger people are just
more just around, you know what I'm saying? Like, not

(04:35):
chill and you're just doing shows with them all the time.
That's what you get to see that and that's what
it makes it real and like attainable because like, you'll
watch somebody come to a show, do a bar show
as well and also bomb and you're like, That guy's
got a Netflix special. Exactly. And you're like, okay, we
all just out here working on shit. This is a craft.
It's like a job. Not every show is good. Not
every moment is great for comedy. That's kind of what

(04:56):
it is. You know, sometimes you try to do bombs.
That's what it's cool to see everybody do it together
and just be like, All right, next show. That's what
I'm saying. But that's hard though, that you just in
the atmosphere, you say, and I'm saying just being around
my focus. But it's ever I like to like you
learn it all the time like you want you be
watching people. You live in L.A. now and just bomb like, oh,
I love it. It's one of my favorite thing. I
love watching it, but we had to move it, actually,

(05:18):
because I'm from Indiana. You from Ohio, you know, and
then Houston. I mean, Houston probably had comedy.

S4 (05:22):
Don't know Houston, it.

S1 (05:24):
Was decent because you stop there. I a decent.

S4 (05:26):
Houston.

S1 (05:27):
Scene. Hey.

S4 (05:28):
Hell, yeah.

S1 (05:29):
You mean all of Texas major cities? You know, I'm
saying be cracking because this is how the.

S4 (05:33):
People and I started in like to like the other
rooms in Houston, like they they, they in the back
barbecue and the shit, you know they back there barbecue
and it's there's no barbecue places in.

S2 (05:47):
Texas.

S4 (05:48):
You know real like and you know.

S2 (05:50):
Comedy and rib comedy and ribs, you know.

S4 (05:53):
So I started that's where I started. That's how I learned.

S1 (05:57):
Like you horn.

S4 (05:58):
The rebuttals issue because they know.

S1 (06:01):
Oh, yeah, it's black, black folks.

S2 (06:02):
Yeah, they know I'm.

S1 (06:04):
A black woman. Did you? Patience is.

S2 (06:06):
No more.

S1 (06:07):
Patience. But I also teach you to math.

S4 (06:09):
Yeah. You got to be like you got to be quick,
because once, once the audience get a hold of you
is the rap like, Well.

S2 (06:16):
That's how you got to, like, get your thoughts under control. Yeah, Black.

S1 (06:19):
People do not care.

S4 (06:20):
We don't know. They don't go for we.

S1 (06:22):
We end the show now.

S2 (06:23):
Yeah, we part of the.

S1 (06:25):
Show that the rap You better not be true. Yeah.
Now we used this album. I got Harlem in New York,
and it was with this dude, Smokey, and he would
host the show. He'd be like, Yo, I got you
coming up next on an open mic and then do
45 minutes and then bring you up.

S2 (06:41):
And you're damn.

S1 (06:42):
Right this is crazy. I heard about that. Oh, come on, cuz.
I got you. You. Yeah. The first time I went.
There he goes, man, I'm so happy to see this
guy again. And I was like, I don't know who
the fuck he thinks I am. And then he brought
me up. I was just like, Yeah, maybe that was
just the default, you know what I'm saying? Probably like
that room was. It was incredible, though. I get like.
Like you want to do like that go up and

(07:03):
you're like, Oh, yeah. You're like, Oh, he murdered for
45 minutes, murder for 45 minutes. He's talking about anything
he wanted. There's life. And you're like, Yeah, these rooms
are like, they're built different. Yeah, he was. Energies are different. Like, Yeah,
but I feel like New York. It has a lot
of more of those than L.A. does. I could be wrong, though.
Is it like that in L.A.? L.A. got the same.

(07:23):
How do you is it a difference in L.A. and
San Diego and Houston? Like, can you.

S2 (07:28):
Tell the difference?

S4 (07:29):
Yeah. Yeah, I used to. Houston got there. You know,
Houston is trying to like, uh, Houston is trying to, like,
make the basketball team. And then you got, like, San
Diego is, like, varsity. Yeah. You know, like everybody, you know,
you being but L.A., you know, being in entertainment, that's
like the NBA.

S1 (07:48):
Yeah. That's why I was really, really.

S4 (07:50):
I mean, you got acting, you got all this stuff.
So L.A. is just more so. Like what? You know? Yeah.
Have you been on down there? Yeah. You don't think?
Because you got to think that's weird. Yeah. People want
to see that.

S2 (08:03):
We didn't dream the game, people.

S4 (08:05):
What we are, though, that people want to see people
on TV. You know.

S1 (08:09):
TV is the gateway TV. TV is like. It's not
even the gateway anymore, though. No. People don't talk.

S4 (08:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

S1 (08:15):
Yeah. You're right. You're right. I forgot. I forgot about that. Yeah,
People do endorse going.

S2 (08:19):
At, people going.

S1 (08:20):
Up. I'll take tags. It's crazy, right? Yeah. I not
going to do that. You're not going to either. It's
the same as people like the Kardashians. People like, Yo,
they fucked up. I was like, Look, if I could
make that much money, I'd love to. I really like it, fam,
they don't. People are doing fucking theaters and they daughter
they thought about to be a billionaire. Kylie and Kim
daughter going to be a billionaire by the time she
like 18 just from the assets thing and going for

(08:42):
it you know. Yeah that's.

S2 (08:44):
Yeah.

S1 (08:44):
So I ain't mad at them getting money is what
I but I don't look at that. You got to
look smaller. Like if you look up at that bar, like,
you'll never get anywhere near it, you know? Oh, yeah.
And you look at it and I'm like, your dear,
you got to go fuck yourself money for the rest
of your life. Like, for every generation to overcome. Yeah,
like they're chillin. Well, also, it's like a I think
it's a lot of it is. It's timing. You know?
I'm saying, like, he just was in the right time.

(09:05):
Did the right stuff at the right time. You know
what I'm saying? Like, and only few people can get
to a certain point. You know, what I'm saying is
just depending on what you do in the experiences that
you get, you cannot say. And the timing is, but
who's the nice rapper? Like, who could you go after
right now? That'll put me in a position like who
would be our Kim Kardashian Young right now. So who's next?

(09:28):
I don't know why they always I'm a I've always
been to go honestly trying to get a bag. They
always bring them up and then they go away. You know,
since it was like, oh, I'll have doja cat, I
think Doja cat.

S2 (09:39):
She's doing all right. I had oh, she doing initially.

S1 (09:43):
That was like I didn't.

S4 (09:44):
Remember the other night somebody was talking about the ad. Uh,
we was a satirise. What about someone was like, he
don't know who. NAV was talking about. She like heat. Oh, no,
that wasn't you. That was a mess.

S1 (09:57):
Yeah. Look at you over here. Yeah. I told you.
You interrupted the conversation.

S2 (10:01):
You and you ended up a. But that's a.

S4 (10:05):
Whole different conversation.

S2 (10:06):
He goes different man now. He was a smoker.

S1 (10:09):
You disoriented us. You know the Twilight Zone.

S4 (10:13):
Wow.

S1 (10:13):
That's man. But tell me about Georgie. How was growing up?
How about you? Well, I'm from Indiana. Now they already
know about you.

S2 (10:22):
Yeah.

S1 (10:22):
The first episode was just me, myself. It was just.
I mean, what I just thought of comedy doing. You
look up in my hours straight when you did it.
Look at this. Know if it matters, bro. I don't
even know what it's all about. Like, if you talking
by yourself in this room, when you do your first
episode where you looking down like, Oh, no, I had
I had somebody here with me. I had a producer
here with me. Okay, So I was talking to someone. Okay,

(10:44):
that feels good, you know? It was just me in
the room.

S2 (10:46):
Yeah, that was good. What you did.

S1 (10:48):
I would feel a little more on the radio. Yeah,
like a radio. Sit down. I did that once there,
and I think. I think my life changed after.

S2 (10:57):
I was like, I never want to be in a
room by myself ever again. I talked into a microphone
for an hour. This isn't for me. I felt like, Yeah,
you know what? I was done. And I was like.

S1 (11:09):
Well, in my head I was like. I was like,
Did I have fun?

S2 (11:11):
I don't know. I know. I don't know. I like
I talked about being that far, but the overall experience
was that a good one is weird doing it by yourself.

S1 (11:21):
Even the people that be by myself have like a
person in the room with them. You know what I'm saying?
You're just having a conversation alone?

S2 (11:27):
Yes.

S1 (11:28):
Like, how was your mind? I'm good, man. It's just
you in there. So neither your God. I guess what
I think about that. I have a podcast. I just
don't do it, man. I'm a lazy guy. Like you
have one. You just say, Fuck it. Yeah, like. Like
I work really hard on the shit I work on, but, like,
I've never seen it as, like, a thing that, like,
I had to put, like, the foot on the gas

(11:48):
to do it, you know? What got you into doing it?
Because you do street talk shows. What got you into
doing that? That's from earlier than that. Like I like
working on. Yeah. Cause it's like, oh, I get to
tour and go do comedy and, like, get on stage
and put myself in different cities. Cause you've been doing
a show for how long? Like, three years, Not four years.
Like to you over two years. I'll tell you that
my band like hello to others, like three years. But 2020,

(12:09):
we started year literally out of the park. I mean,
I have done shows around that, but they weren't streets.
Are you talking that brand, the brand there that like
we were like, All right, let's build this shit. Hell yeah. Like,
that's Angel not actually heartbroken. Like you said, you two
want you to have some big names on that bitch.
That's your nigga. Well, the more people you meet, it's
like it's cool in this industry. You meet, like, a
lot of genuine people that are like, I just want
to work with this guy because he's working on his

(12:31):
own thing. Yeah. And I think that's that's something people
don't realize, too. And it's a lot of comedians that
be like, Wow, I don't get on this. Why? This
is really hitting me up a lot, too. And more
fuckers that work want to fuck with motherfuckers that work. Yeah.
Or people that. You know what I'm saying? People just
do it in the same mindset, same thing. Everybody ask
because then it's value for some shit, though. Yeah, I

(12:52):
was going say, That's what I'm saying. Stop asking people
for shit and just give them something. It's trading value. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, exactly.
It's like everybody like you say, everybody want to take. Yes.
And especially me. I don't know about the other industries,
but comedy I like. Yeah. Why do you think I
got a job? You have to work first and then
you get paid in two weeks.

S2 (13:10):
Or you.

S1 (13:11):
Got as though like, people, people want to look before
they do the job and do the fucking job and like,
build something. Do something like tell people, yo, come be
a part of this. And instead of asking for something
and it's like people are way more willing to work
with you. Is that one where everybody does? I just
think it's crazy to, like, go up to a stranger
and be like, Can I do your thing? Yeah. And

(13:33):
they're like, No, I like this.

S4 (13:35):
Even with me. Even with me, with the whole, you know,
social media. I like like you say, with the whole part.
I just be lazy with the whole social media, you
know what I mean? I don't give a fuck.

S1 (13:43):
About I need to be there too.

S4 (13:44):
But people be complaining like, Oh, how come this person
is getting on my move? You know?

S2 (13:49):
They know they work. Yeah, I've been out. Yeah.

S4 (13:52):
They pumping out video in this like I get it.
But like. Damn like what? You you sitting back complaining
about it and why you sit back complaining and they
didn't go out to videos and went viral and then
they get ready to sell out.

S1 (14:06):
Man I got a good for six months. I got
a good friend that has been on World Star like
12 times, like this man that I was with every
day growing up, like my nigga, my leg, and he
was beating people up. And Gary, in the end.

S2 (14:19):
Now he's a rock and he at Derby probably.

S1 (14:23):
It's not something that he probably benefits but but he
just he just do it every day. You know I'm
seems doing it every day and I'm seeing him and
he not a key don't do stand up or none
he just do the videos and I'm like, damn this
nigga really doing it. You know, saying that he he
doing he making money, you know, you get a little
success out of it. You start making bread and you're like, okay,
and I'm going to do so. Okay. Yeah, exactly. You
get that little momentum, that little snowball effect. It's also

(14:46):
it depends on like what you want and like the
grand scheme of the whole thing, like this is actually
cause fucked Tim the other day. Dylan told me this.
He was like, If I could tell any young comic,
this is like I would tell you to write the
1010 things that you want. And like, everything, like out
of everything and like your life. What are the ten
things you want? He's like, before you keep moving forward.

(15:06):
And Tim was like, Yeah, he was like one of
my first things. He was like, I wanted fucking money.
He was like, I was tired of being, like, broke.
And so you just figure out a way to, like,
do that thing, you know, where it's like, yeah, you
set the priority list to, like, this is what I
want to achieve first. That's hard. Instead of people being like,
Let me just try to do everything. Like, for example, like,
I'd rather only do standup. I don't want to make

(15:27):
fucking comedy videos of me being, I don't know, corny.
And I guess this does not mean.

S4 (15:33):
That should be so hard for me, man.

S1 (15:35):
And I'm not saying that people shouldn't do it, but
I just.

S4 (15:37):
Yeah, Yeah.

S1 (15:38):
He personally.

S4 (15:38):
Yeah, It's just like.

S1 (15:39):
I think I can do it and not be going
to angle and I think I'm, I'm gonna get into it,
but I just like you say it or you could
just see what's corny and what's not. Yeah.

S4 (15:47):
You know. Yeah.

S1 (15:48):
And this is a couple of people I know.

S4 (15:50):
That's cool, but don't get it twisted, man. You got
a lot of folks out here who. Who's being backed
up by the machine. I mean, so. Yeah.

S1 (15:59):
That's game, too. You got to get in position to get.

S4 (16:01):
Back in, no matter. That's what I'm saying. Like, so
it's just so many outlets for you to do your own.

S1 (16:07):
I that's what I was going to say, too, because
both of your produce shows you was producing the most shows.
I I've never seen a person.

S2 (16:13):
Do you do a show three times a week? Yeah.

S1 (16:16):
What made you start doing that? What made both your start? Well,
you already told me. You just like I wanna watch it.

S2 (16:21):
How have you seen history Taught you by up to me.

S4 (16:24):
Well, we always was talking about, you know, like, you know,
he was going to do some stuff and, uh, you know,
just do out, you know how you know how the
game is and, you know, and then we were just
talking like, Man, we just need to start doing our
own shit.

S1 (16:36):
If your kid is also better, because if, uh, if
five people in your group all have their own thing,
one thing is gonna pop off. You got to play
the numbers game where you're like, Nah, that's my. That's
my boy. I have my thing. You build your thing.
This guy built his thing. This guy built his thing,
and it's like, eventually some shit pops off and you
put your people on. Yeah. You want to be in
a good bubble and a good network. If y'all can

(16:57):
tell some young comedians or, you know, I'm saying people
that haven't produced shows, what would you tell them? Go
to two or three things. Just go to a mike.
Just keep going to Mike's to produce. I'm talking about
to produce shows. Oh, we can get to the comedy part.
But just like, you know, people that have never produced
shows before and they want to get into it, you
know what I'm saying? But they you know, a lot
of people, because they want to produce, don't do that,
cause that's my thing is like the ultimate goal is like,

(17:18):
all right, I'm producing to put myself on in comedy,
but well, that's what I'm saying. So tell them something.
Tell them something that a comic are producing because it's
two different things. Producer We're going to produce and write
both of your produce shows and your comics, You know,
I'm saying, just do the people that want to take
that read, we walk around fucking yesterday by the beach
and we're just handing out stickers. It's like, do the groundwork,
do the extra shit to the shit that people aren't.

(17:39):
That's what I'm telling you.

S4 (17:40):
Do you know about that first? Hey. Yeah. I'll tell
you some shit that I told you. I will tell
you some shit that I'm going to do. I like
when he produces, I'm like, Yo, get you some flyers
and go to the go to the mall.

S1 (17:52):
Oh, yeah. He doesn't go to mall. I mean, I
was already. Oh, now.

S4 (17:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, just I'm just like, yeah,
I'm just. I'm just.

S1 (17:58):
Yeah, but it's the same game. Yes.

S4 (17:59):
Yeah. And yesterday we was out there, we put we
did a show in L.A., I live my phone all
like in another city. Basically, I had to drive to
go get my phone. We owned a we on a on,
on a roll. Didn't have the, didn't have the, uh,
the chairs.

S1 (18:16):
We don't have the chairs, but I have a speaker.

S4 (18:18):
But speakers.

S1 (18:19):
We had like, almost no tickets. Yeah, I just completely
forgot about the show and called everyone, hit everybody up.
We're able to get like all the equipment got here
and then out of fuck a lot of stickers. And
then we sold the show up. There wasn't a seat
in the house offered just like.

S4 (18:32):
Just like on the stairs.

S1 (18:34):
We're handed stickers out and just talking to people rather
than just being personable.

S4 (18:38):
Right?

S1 (18:38):
Just, you know.

S4 (18:39):
I'm Tom. I'm tired. I'm tomo. Tired, like. Yeah. Yeah.

S1 (18:44):
Because you just drove. You just drove some hours. And
you still.

S4 (18:46):
I drove.

S1 (18:48):
You drove? I drove along. Okay, maybe.

S4 (18:50):
He drove, and I'm just. I'm just like. I'm just
sitting here, like, on the way to San Diego, like.
And we bought the. We going to do this all
over again?

S2 (19:00):
Yeah.

S4 (19:01):
Oh, are we gonna do that all over? We'll have
shit done.

S1 (19:04):
Well, I feel good.

S2 (19:04):
Said, Oh, I want to come here to talk. Shit.
I was like the last two days then hell, I,
I yesterday.

S1 (19:09):
Somebody find me a bed.

S2 (19:10):
Yeah. No, I slept right in three nights.

S1 (19:13):
We is. That's the hustle, though. That's the. That's what
a lot of people don't understand. And they don't they
think it's like a they think it's just you going.

S4 (19:22):
To get into.

S2 (19:23):
Sleep. We all have.

S1 (19:24):
The night every night.

S4 (19:25):
We all here get tickets and shit. But this is like, Yo, yo.

S2 (19:28):
Three days, two tickets. No, sleep wasn't good. Do we
talk about bars?

S4 (19:34):
We all here we like.

S2 (19:36):
Like a capella right now. You know, more of the hustle.

S4 (19:40):
But they look, they. They, you know, say everything look
so good. And I also, I live with the owners.
They're like, we, you know, I got I got getting worse.

S2 (19:48):
We paid.

S4 (19:48):
50 chairs.

S2 (19:50):
Two speakers, two amps.

S4 (19:52):
Of microphones, then all our bags.

S1 (19:55):
And all of a fucking.

S2 (19:56):
Emotion. Courtney is in the car. We then they're.

S4 (20:01):
We rolling.

S2 (20:02):
Now.

S4 (20:03):
Wake up to another tiki. I'm like oh my.

S2 (20:06):
Lo is here. My, I'm dead.

S4 (20:08):
Oh, I mean, I can't.

S1 (20:09):
I'm an artist and black. Our belly moves, bro.

S2 (20:11):
So, like.

S1 (20:12):
We add some weight to us. And I was like.

S2 (20:14):
He hit.

S4 (20:15):
Him is like.

S2 (20:16):
Mark car.

S4 (20:17):
Like what I call my hold on my car. Like,
hold on you now you Uber now you do it
too much.

S2 (20:24):
You doing like you.

S4 (20:25):
You push it and now you got.

S1 (20:26):
Two people. But the chairs is great.

S2 (20:29):
Right? You know how you put it. 45 Jay-Z, man
of speakers.

S4 (20:34):
But I mean that's just what you.

S1 (20:36):
What advice would you give a youngins that's trying to
be a comedian and due to the show's producers. You
know I'm saying two or three things.

S2 (20:47):
That's what said I see.

S4 (20:50):
I mean, the only thing I can really say, I mean,
there's like, I feel like certain things are comedy. You
just got to go through it like, you know, you
just got three.

S1 (20:58):
When you say you got to go through it.

S4 (20:59):
You just got it. You got to spirit like you
got a spirit. It's like to bash it in producing
shows like if I to be like, you got to
do like find a mom and pops. But you know,
they don't they won't understand why. What do you mean?
I'm out of Mom and Pop Spotlight.

S1 (21:12):
So what you're saying is just do it and learn
on the way.

S4 (21:15):
You got it. It's just like swimming. I was taught
how to swim. I can go. Let's just. My uncles
just do me in the water. Yeah, It was like,
I think if you want to live.

S1 (21:25):
It's time to learn how to swim. It's also how
you kill them. That's. That's cool.

S2 (21:28):
That's how you fucking Cleveland. Oh, yeah. That was in
school too. We doing here. Let's. Let's give him. You
want to you you want to live what you want
to down.

S4 (21:41):
The ghetto idea. You better learn how to swim like you.

S2 (21:44):
One floated, you know I.

S4 (21:46):
Mean, that's just how it is is like you know
this is how they were produce. I mean you can't
I mean you can tell people. All right so when
I say find a mom and pop, I say find
a spot that. You don't have to lie. There's no management.
It's just them. Because if you know.

S1 (22:01):
What that is meant. You mean like a corporate?

S4 (22:03):
Yeah. You want to deal with somebody who just. Who owned.
Who owned this spa because. Exactly. You want to do stuff.

S1 (22:08):
Mom and pop shit house. Yeah. You talking to the
owner of the stand? It's also generally, people want to
help people. Exactly. Like. Yeah. Like, if it's a big corporation,
you want to rent a room, that's just gonna be, like, two,
three GS. Yeah. Like, if you have, you meet the
average person who's running a business and you got your
3500 for the night. They're like, Yo, 500 helps me. And, like,
promote the business. They try to, like, it helps me

(22:28):
in life. Like, I look at it as like, Yeah, here.

S4 (22:31):
But when I was when I produce shows, I don't.
I don't pay. I don't pay when I produce.

S1 (22:37):
Yeah. Well, that's a different angle to you. Get them
to pay you, right?

S4 (22:40):
Yeah. No, it's just off your just off your.

S1 (22:42):
After ticket.

S4 (22:43):
Sales. No, your content.

S1 (22:44):
What do you mean by content?

S4 (22:45):
So I take like. Like the sugar factory. I came,
I came with the whole. I came with a video, like, Look,
I can bring it to yourself. I had an event.
I had a ticket link already made, the flyer already made.
And I lied to them and I said I got
ten tickets. So already. Come on, man, we got to
do this right now. He was like, Who approved this?
And I said, You, I'm waiting for you to give

(23:07):
me a nobody. I'm waiting on you. And he was like, Wait, no.
But I said, No, you. And if you deal with
the sugar fighter, you already know. Yeah. You got to
deal with it. Like, contractually you got to deal with
like they got investors and stuff like, certain, like you
can't have certain flyers on or on a window with
stuff because I have flyers, I have movie posters on,
on the side.

S1 (23:27):
Of the goal line that.

S4 (23:28):
Will have more proposals on it because I just came
in there just like how we just, you know, how
we do, we just I'm just like, fuck it. Like, Yeah,
what you going to say? Yes or no?

S2 (23:37):
It's also if you control.

S1 (23:38):
Banger, no one's ever gonna tell you no.

S4 (23:39):
Like, yeah, exactly. Nobody has ever done it. Like, Yeah.

S1 (23:43):
So you guys should just do it.

S4 (23:44):
Well, just do it like, you know.

S1 (23:46):
And also real quick, I think it's also part people
see the hustle. Like if people see you moving and
you trying to make them some money, they.

S2 (23:54):
Go, okay, just move. I'm fucking with.

S1 (23:56):
You. I'm I'm going on that train, you know, See.

S4 (23:58):
St we're making.

S1 (23:58):
The money.

S4 (23:59):
Anyway. We're basic piece of downtown.

S1 (24:01):
I mean, we did this.

S4 (24:02):
Working like I did.

S1 (24:02):
Same industry though, genuinely, where like, a lot of people
don't know, like famous people. Like if you're actually funny,
you're good at what you do and then like, you're
in this like lower tier of, like climbing in the
shit know, like, I want to say I knew him
in the beginning. Exactly. So much more willing to help
you now. People like dream. No. Yeah. Yeah. That's true dreams.
And it's also good, man. People are like they've given

(24:23):
up on their dreams. Yeah, like. Like I'm going to
work this job that just survive. That I survive and
pay for my family, my kid, whatever. But it's like,
if we're still chasing the thing, people are more inclined
to try to help you, which is what I'm saying
is like, they'll rent you a spot for way cheaper.
They'll be like, Yeah, pull up, fuck it, we'll get
you chairs, we'll do this, we'll do that. Like, yeah, 100%.
And I go later. You may not. I'll do that.
It's like a thing. It's like we're humans where we just.

(24:46):
You're more apt to help somebody that's not a stranger.
And the closest, the shortest way to become acquaintances is
a name and an experience. So if you like, you
like you do. You came up to him as I'm
just what I'm doing is how this is do like. Okay.
You know.

S4 (25:04):
About this? I knew nothing about contracts. I knew nothing
about the contract attorneys and knew nothing about nothing.

S1 (25:10):
That's way different than if you would have said to
my email.

S4 (25:12):
Yes.

S1 (25:13):
You see what I'm saying? So it's a it's a
thing where humans interaction like. Yeah, you just know fuck
is about it. You know what I'm saying?

S4 (25:19):
So it's crazy how this shit work. When we did
a show in L.A., it's.

S1 (25:23):
Like part psychology.

S4 (25:24):
Fan. We did a show in L.A. and Max like, Yo,
I don't know if you are on. I don't care
if you know, I don't know if you want me
to tell a story about the Bobby Lisa. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, Max, like,
we get the whole line here, Like, I got Tim
Dillon just then and there, and I'm like, All right,
keep in mind, I don't know who none of these
motherfuckers are. Yeah, I don't know who, like, none of

(25:45):
them are, but he like, Yo, I got Tim doing
the wolf Devo. And he was like, I'm trying to
get Bobby Lee on the show. And I'm like, Yo,
he be at the store, I'm going to the store tonight.
And he was like, All right, talk to him for me.
Will you let him know? As soon as I get
to the store, the first person I see is who.

S1 (26:02):
Frame.

S4 (26:03):
Bobby Lee.

S1 (26:04):
Right in.

S4 (26:05):
Front. And I'm like, Is this. Oh, my God. Oh,
my man, you funny. So I go to and I'm
talking to him like, Yo, we do the street talk.
We will be doing a show. I saw him to fly.
He'll I'm lucky I'll be down to do it. Email
me would do his email and I was like, Oh shit.
And I call Max. Max is that is. So I'm like,
Max Luger. I just talk to you like, yo, I

(26:27):
can't them Max in the beginning, fuck them. And then
we just text to like.

S2 (26:30):
Go in there.

S4 (26:33):
He was like, yo.

S2 (26:34):
At this, think thinking about that happy again. You're like.

S4 (26:36):
Yo, this.

S1 (26:37):
Man is getting fucked.

S2 (26:39):
At the think.

S4 (26:39):
Yeah, because you know, a nigger nigger be texting you,
which is.

S2 (26:42):
How do we say, yeah.

S4 (26:43):
He was like, This is fucking crazy, bro. And I'm
just like, Yo, I'm going crazy. I'm just like, is
is crazy that by us bus or and not even
saying that Weird like we like that but this is
about us busting our ass is.

S1 (26:57):
Trying to hustle when it comes to getting accomplishments.

S4 (27:00):
All he said was, man, I would be it would
be dope if I could get Bobby Lee. And I
was like, Yo, I see him. I'm going to be
at the store. I can see him at the store.
And the first bro I'm talking about, the first person
I see is Bobby. And I'm like, Somebody just start
to laugh. And I'm just like.

S1 (27:16):
Well, there's just certain people like, you want to work
with him. Like, like I said, like you got to
offer people shit. Like, you got to see people. Like
he didn't end up responding or doing it. Yeah. Eventually
I got to work with this guy. I seen him
on stage. I fucking love his work. I think he's hilarious.
So it's one of those things where it's like, Yeah,
I just want to work around killers and like, people
start to see that and grow in that industry. Exactly.
Because you already got killers on there. You got I mean,
Tim Dillon, you know, he up there, he got some

(27:37):
like he's a dude that legitimately I just want to
learn from. Yeah he did.

S4 (27:41):
He did some gangsta shit at the. So what did
you put up in an all white Bentley.

S2 (27:46):
Out there.

S4 (27:47):
In the park to in a rage and just it
just left it there. I was like. Oh, okay. Yeah.
You get that money? He did.

S1 (27:56):
He moved like that. Yeah.

S4 (27:57):
Yeah. Okay.

S1 (27:57):
If he got, like, there, if he just. He's the man. Yeah,
but yeah, now he. You know, he's funny. How far
would you fall? I didn't.

S4 (28:03):
Even know. I didn't even know how. How big. He,
like people at the show were like the photographer girl.
She was going crazy, so. Oh, my.

S1 (28:11):
Fucking.

S4 (28:11):
God. Is Tim fucking Tim Dillon? And I was like,
All right, hold on. All right. It is this big
motherfucking Rachel. I guess this is like, she's like, I'm sorry.
And she went over there and shook his hands, and
I'm just. And never I was taken was. I was like, Man,
I still don't know who this motherfucker, but.

S1 (28:32):
But that's jiggy, you know that Yo, hustle. Now, you
in that orbit or that network, you know? But that's
how it feels in New York. That's what I'm saying
is like you walking like you're working around killers constantly. Like, yeah,
you're working all around the city. You see these people,
you work with them, and then you do shows and
then you guys just talk after. Like, that's just the
way she works. Like I'm nobody's going to entertain even
wanting to work with you if you fucking suck. Of

(28:54):
course I know. So, but the thing is, though, how
long I've been doing comedy, Like how many years? Five.
You said one. No. Imagine.

S4 (29:03):
Imagine. Yeah, well.

S1 (29:04):
I'm a year and you've been doing it for two
years because you've been doing this for two years now.
Three times. Street talk was at least two years, but
I was doing comedy right before that. Oh, so how
many years?

S2 (29:13):
Like four.

S1 (29:14):
Oh, I thought you say I won. That's why I
was like, What?

S2 (29:17):
No, no. Okay, I'm.

S1 (29:18):
Okay. Yeah, but. Okay. Four or five. Yeah. Yeah. So
you all put the work in beforehand, is what I'm saying.
That's what I'm trying to say. Oh, yeah. Like motherfuckers ain't.
Because at the beginning, I mean, it's few people that's
really cold at the beginning, but, you know, we still
had to, but we still don't. And we're n just like,
this whole thing is like, we suck right now. Oh, yeah, 100%.

S4 (29:35):
Yeah.

S1 (29:36):
You know, you don't really get it too. Like, that's
the thing is like, Yes. Or like, you don't get
it to. I'll tell you, I feel great between like ten, 15, 20.
So what you want out of this, Everybody's got a diff,
it's going to be someone is like you just want
to tour. Okay I get the tour now. Is that fucking.

S4 (29:49):
This is a oh, this is an old man's game.

S1 (29:52):
It really is. The people don't.

S4 (29:53):
Realize this.

S1 (29:53):
Is a it's also just like it's a time game
like where they like.

S4 (29:57):
Oh, no, no. You understand that just because you know
your town ain't the same as my town. Yeah, no,
it's the same as that, you.

S1 (30:04):
Know, But that's all I'm saying is like, it's the
amount of time you put in nominee. That is the
time you put people in.

S4 (30:09):
Yeah. Like, yeah.

S1 (30:10):
That's what you got to be out every day. And
I do that. And I really believe that's why certain
people is there certain levels made and people to understand
it like like I know you don't like Dave but
he used to do for our sets for him, you
know what I'm saying? Just doing for our sets when
nobody was looking for them. You know what I'm saying?
You have to. He came back from the show and I,
you know, I mean, he was already doing it for

(30:30):
how many years before that, too, You know, he already
had two specials, whatever. But like, just that time, you know,
Kevin Hart was doing it. Hellertown I know you don't
like him, but just Louis C.K. was doing a holiday
and he I think I seen his interview. He was like, Oh,
I sucked for a long time. And then I got
good later, you know? But I understand that, Tim about it.
Tim goes, literally, it was a long nobody like 15

(30:51):
years on my podcast parts. He's like, people were literally like, Yeah,
this guy doesn't got it. He's like, And then my
podcast pops and then people sort of watch my comedy
and they're like, Yeah, actually this guy's fucking hilarious and yet.

S4 (31:00):
He's doing theater.

S1 (31:01):
He's like, He's a funny and fucking dude. He just
needed you just need.

S4 (31:05):
Something.

S1 (31:05):
Something to make you either pop or someone to pick
you up. And the thing is, like, you get tired
of waiting for someone to pick you up where you go.
Let me just build my own show. Exactly. He just
did it the best way possible, which was just like
YouTube and patriot and fans and like an actual base
of people that were like, We want to support you
so you can live. And that's the secret. So that's
the gym right there. People don't understand that. Like, you
got to get you got to be people oriented in

(31:28):
this mother. I mean, you still got to put I mean,
what do you think the ticket is like a single
ticket for a show is somebody being like, I hope
you got some of this, man. Come on, buys a
ticket for the show. They go, I hope you make
money off this. The ticket. I'm coming to see you.
And I hope you get to continue doing this so
I can come see you again. There's a of support.
People selling tickets for $20. $25? Yeah, well, if I

(31:50):
was making $12 an hour as 2 hours, a eight
day working hours to come see you, you know, I
think it like just the support you like you say,
and I'm trying to see you succeed after the fucking
sacrifice and and more time of my day, you know,
saying so here let me shout out this week real quick.
But we get to fine here. Shout out to curse
you punch that cannabis infused watermelon. We ain't eating. But

(32:12):
I saw before and I made me go to sleep
standing up vampire. But we got this blimp unruly. That
made me turn cross-eyed real quick.

S4 (32:22):
Is that what?

S1 (32:23):
That. That's what we smoked earlier? Yeah. Yeah. Checked it out.

S4 (32:26):
He said that's all we smoked. We still feel that. Yeah.

S1 (32:30):
We got that cleared. Nine g 13 cheese. Oh, G family. Okay. Cheese.
Blessed plus O.G. fam brothers if you like you speaking Japanese.

S2 (32:38):
Does.

S1 (32:40):
No as a layers that. That's that thing that killed
John Wayne. I lanasa. I set out to appreciate your
shout out Marcia Nash as well. I got the fresh
baked on the water bottle and its special shout out
to Jeter because I smoke these, like, every day. And

(33:01):
the signing.

S2 (33:02):
Bro, Nobody talks about Desirae and.

S1 (33:06):
Joe and Tessio.

S2 (33:08):
So I'm picking up exactly to try to get Coca-Cola.
You know, the color. The color red, you know. That's right.

S1 (33:18):
So where where do you see yourselves now? Like, what's
the next step? Do you see in your continuing that?
Just getting better. Keep building what you got? Yeah, I mean, definitely.
I mean, everybody we all got a post online, so
that's just kind of that's the game. That's like where
the industry is going. But like yeah, in the grand
scheme but it all but you can post you doing
stand up though and go viral motherfuckers doing it. Yeah

(33:40):
but I'm in a place to was like that's not
the only way to fucking like you can get clips
Like I was talking some of the other day about it,
but I was like, I fucking used to travel the world, bro. I'm.
I'm like, I never took a camera with me to
record it. I'm like, I can now bring a guy
on the back of a scooter and be like, Hey,
you want to record this whole fucking trip and get
a shitload of content out of it? Like, you're going
to have fun regardless. You're going to have these moments
you get to put out. Like it's about building like

(34:01):
his base of doing the things that you want to do,
whatever you want to do, build a base doing that.
And then the secret is, is you just got to
record that shit, like he's got to put that shit
on camera. It's not even a secret. It's just like,
that's what everyone knows you like. No one knows you
did the thing unless you fucking took a photo of
you doing. Yeah, but that's the thing that nobody I
feel like few people do is what I'm getting that.

(34:22):
Or at least people be like, How the fuck is
like getting successful at this shit? Woo! And you got
to fucking get in front of the camera, you know?
But what is success measured? And that's the other things. Yeah.
I don't think 100,000 followers is success. I think like,
you know, I think I think 1.4 million is the that's.

S2 (34:37):
You.

S1 (34:38):
Times about 15. But as it is people don't are
like that. Yeah Baker got him a million but like
success I think also has to do with a you
and like what you want is like a human like
I agree with that too like we got to put
like yo if everybody misses is a goal Yeah. Find
a way to be happy. Like you don't want to
be lifeless and soulless and just doing and making money
and you're like, But I hate everything I do. I

(34:58):
agree with that. Everybody don't want to be the biggest,
greatest Grant Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get to a place
where you fucking shaving your ass off a man's game
for $10,000 online and you're like, I hate my life. Like,
you know what I mean? Like, do the things that
you want to do. Don't do shit that you're like,
I'm uncomfortable doing this just because I got a bag. Exactly.
And and I met some comics working at the store

(35:19):
that was funny as hell, funnier than the people that
was famous that I never heard of, ever. Who I'm
talking Hillary, like. Like riff in for a 15 minutes
murder and like, I'm like, Damn, never seen this thing
in my life. And they just tore you know I'm
saying they just tour and make money off tour and
got a big ass house and be jealous you know

(35:39):
what I'm saying? And it's and again, like you said,
it depends on what's happiness to you with success. But
that's all st I'll try to get to the top
but some people will look at Tori.

S4 (35:47):
I'm trying to get to the top.

S1 (35:48):
Maybe it's true though like, well, whatever that is to me,
you know. You know I try, I says all my
life is like, what do you want in this? And
I'm like, everything. I want the whole thing. I want like,
every single thing. I'm there more. You got me like, yeah, no,
I feel, you know, you want I want to limit
domination or like, you just want to be good. I
want to be the fucking greatest. I like I've mentioned
one of the greatest. Yeah. Like, so the idea of

(36:09):
me work towards that. Like, you're not even going to
get close. I was like, because I compare this shit to, like, sports. Yeah,
I compare it to, like, baseball bats or whatever. Like basketball.
People who love the park. Well, not everybody trying to
go to the league like you guys all had to
pulls up on a Saturday and he wants to fucking
do a show. And you're like, I got to take
another swipe at you. Like fucking about. He's been coming
to the park for ten years. They've been in this
game for a minute, but it's like, you know, your

(36:29):
goal isn't the NBA anymore. You just like hooping at
the park. Yeah, like doing shows. Yeah. And some people
are like, Nah, I'm going to whoop and then I'm
going to train and then we'll do this and you
do that. And it's like I'm trying to go to
the combine. Like every time you have a big show
and like, you're doing it in front of people, that's
your combine. Yeah, that's like going, Oh, agents are here.
That's what I'm like, That's, that's the game. You got
to look at this show. The game? Yeah. Like they're
seeing you. The people who got to see you are

(36:49):
seeing you. And that's going to happen occasionally. But it's
like when you're training still train hard because then when
the combine comes, you've got to be ready for it.
That's the thing to a lot of motherfuckers don't understand.
But you got to be ready. You got to be
ready for this. Like you got to you got to
step up to.

S4 (37:03):
The you can't say that. You can't say you want
to opportunity and then crumble An opportunity.

S1 (37:07):
Yeah. And I was going to say some real quick
probably go too far for I forget where you you
can't be timid. I mean you can be timid in
I mean you can be timid, let me say like that,
because you went up to a dude and you don't
know that has, as you know, famous and like, hey,
let me let you buy some. And that's what it's about.
And it's about, you know, not being afraid. I think
you can't be timid. You just got to be you

(37:29):
like if you like, because the guy who like will
do that. So yeah, no, I'll do that. And then
there's people who are just mad, scared and you're like, Whatever.
When I say not be afraid, I don't I don't
mean exactly talking to people that you don't know, but
just in. In a general sense, you just got to
because some people were like. Some people are afraid to
get on stage. Some people are afraid to go that

(37:50):
far and don't talk anymore. Yeah, some people are afraid
to go all in or do certain shows or go
to certain places or do certain you know, I'm saying
and it's about taking that leap, is what I'm saying.
Maybe timid is the wrong word, but you just got
to believe in yourself. I guess that's cliches. But you,
you know, you got to well, every person that you
can get, every person that steps on a stage is

(38:11):
like taking a risk and now thinks that they're next. Like, yeah, yeah,
that's how this works. You don't get up there for
the most part, like not thinking you can do something
with this shit. It's just a matter of, like I said,
this is at least, at least 95%. But it's like
the time that you put in. Like, it's not. It's
what is the hard work time. Time for us to
work hard. Yeah. That thing not as real. Well, like,

(38:31):
that's kind of really true. It's like, you know, there's
people that are naturally I says that, like, I was
telling Bilal earlier, he was like, I never met your sister.
And was like, Yeah. I mean, she lives in New York,
and I was like, I think she's funnier than me.
I was like a human being. Like when I'm just like,
around her, she makes me laugh, like, makes me die
laughing constantly all the fucking time. And I watch professional
comics and I'm like, That guy is not making me
laugh at all. Yeah. So for me, I'm like, My

(38:52):
sister is one of the funniest people to me in
my life. But she'll never do comedy. Yeah, exactly. Because
that's not her. That was like, that's talent. She's already though.
She's just like, naturally really funny, and that's.

S4 (39:03):
Cool. So my life is just exactly like this. I'm
talking about.

S1 (39:06):
Ain't it crazy to talk that we we can see
that because we comedians, like you can see it's like
a certain type of filter you get. You know, I'm
saying what you do that you can see who got
it and who don't naturally well is one of the
most basic emotions in life. It's like you feel happy, sad, laughter.
Like there's like things of just like you've been laughing
since you were born. Yeah, but when something makes you laugh,

(39:29):
you just laugh. Exactly. But I think with comedy, because
when you start doing standup or comedy or whatever for it,
you understand the cadences and the timing and the funny,
you know what I'm saying? Like the small things. Yeah,
but somebody has a determination to. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But
that's what I'm saying. Like we can see the naturalness, like, damn,
if you did standup, you'd be good at it, but

(39:50):
you don't. I don't believe that either. I don't believe
that either. Like, I think my sister would crumble on stage.

S4 (39:55):
But the thing is not that I know, like.

S1 (39:58):
People that are funny, it's like it's not even like, Oh, yeah,
you can't stand that. I'm just like, Now you're just funny.
Like this basic human emotion that we're chasing, that we
work as a job and we have to get on stage.
And I might have to disagree with that. Gee, I
think anybody almost as long as it's within reason, if
you practice some hell at times you can get good
at it. You got to work with. I mean, no,
that's what I mean. So that's I mean, but you
say that you'll never do it, but that's a you

(40:18):
don't want to. Yeah, but that's a different thing if
she wanted to is what I'm saying.

S4 (40:21):
Like there's, there's comedians right now who get uncomfortable as
hell when you bring them to the stage and the
place get quiet and it's people staring at you.

S2 (40:31):
Yeah. Yeah.

S4 (40:32):
We're going to make make them laugh.

S2 (40:35):
Yeah.

S4 (40:35):
So you take somebody who has never done that ever,
and you put them on stage, You don't think they'll crumble?

S1 (40:42):
Yeah, but you bomb before we are bomb before it.

S4 (40:45):
Yeah, but we can take but I'm talking about, I
mean referencing this is what I'm.

S1 (40:48):
But I agree with that too. But I'm think there
is other people, maybe not her, but other people in
the world just went up there and crumble and it
was like, I'm gonna do it again, you know? And
then it's about it's about that. But then there's also
mad people who don't. And that's what I'm saying. Yeah, well,
I think the choice.

S4 (41:02):
That's more people that will be like me, like them,
like definitely.

S2 (41:06):
For all.

S1 (41:07):
I'm saying is, is just because people make the choice
not to doesn't mean that if they wanted to, they couldn't.
That's all I'm saying. I think I think if what
I do think almost anything because I think like if
you don't for example did you and repeat doing interviews.
Well it's it's the same as people being like like
yo if I was six four, I could make it
to the WNBA. Well that's what I say with and

(41:28):
you're just like, that's what is And what the fuck
does that have anything to do with like, yeah, like this,
this fictional scenario of me being like, Yo, if I
was a girl and I was six four for sure,
I could play WNBA. And you're like, But what? Like,
what is this? What if it's like, you either do shit,
make it, don't do shit. And it's just a matter
of like she'll she'll never do that. Yeah. Like the
funniest people. It's not even like, yo they could, they,

(41:49):
it's like it's finite. They want. Yes. Yeah. Like life
is so binary. It's very just one zero. Like I,
you know, I don't, I can't. I don't know man.
I don't look at like them and I think it's
like I don't believe in me. Joyce Yeah, I don't
believe in, like, what ifs and ifs. And I agree
with that to an extent, though, because it is it
is either you at the end of the day is results.
You know, what I'm saying is there was either you
did or you didn't.

S4 (42:10):
You know, it's like I do agree with that.

S1 (42:13):
And a lot of people don't realize that it's so
good there. You write, you write on them in.

S4 (42:17):
My book is just like taking the comedy class.

S1 (42:20):
What you mean by that?

S4 (42:21):
Like you either you're either funny or you're not.

S1 (42:23):
Oh, like if you take a comic.

S4 (42:25):
Somebody can't teach you to be funny.

S2 (42:27):
Some people as famous, I mean, some big people took
cut classes.

S1 (42:31):
But once.

S2 (42:32):
Again.

S4 (42:32):
You know, once again, I'm saying, no, no one can
teach you, too.

S1 (42:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're saying, though.

S4 (42:37):
You have this is something that you got to. This
is something that you have.

S1 (42:41):
I agree with that.

S4 (42:41):
I can't teach somebody to be funny like you.

S1 (42:43):
Yeah, but you could teach them how to write, though.
I do. That's what I was going to say. I
think you could teach somebody standup, though.

S4 (42:48):
You can definitely. As a model.

S1 (42:50):
We work around mad autistic people about like I'm talking
about Ali, autistic. And all they do is write jokes
for like interaction wise. You're like, Oh, this guy can't
even look me in the eyes. But they're like, Yeah,
you know how to write a joke. But all it
is is because they wrote hella jokes hella times and
now they get, you know, I'm saying they just been
doing it for well, like, these are like the weaker
autistic people. Like I was an engineer before. Those were
like the super heroes of, like autism like that. My
focus was like, locked in now, but I don't want

(43:13):
you saying no. But it's because, like, we'll get the yeah,
we'll get the autistic kids who, like, can't hold a job, though. Like,
those are the kids that come into comedy, you know,
like nobody really is coming, right? Exactly. Successfully. That's what
I'm saying. It's like I was around the fucking superheroes
of autism. And then, like, now you just give the
kid that time.

S2 (43:29):
This is true, bro.

S1 (43:31):
Now you're saying like it was to a level when
I walk into this office. Yeah, I work around like
these geniuses. I'm talking, like, literal geniuses, every single one
of them. And I was like, Yeah, you. We're not
playing the same game. Yeah, Yeah. Well, you just know
that is human calculus. Yeah. Never stratosphere. Yeah. So I
some people like human calculator words though. Yeah. They understand like,

(43:51):
oh if I piece this, this and this together. So
I'm just saying misdirection this is, that is like but
you don't know how to do it in person. You
got to write this down. Exactly. But I think it's,
I think it's a mixture. The people that get to
certain levels, it's a mixture of the both. You learn
that and then you also got it naturally, you know
what I'm saying? And when you fuse the two. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's when you get, you have homework and tower boom,
you got LeBron James, you get to the exact you

(44:12):
get LeBron James, you got a guy who's talented and
works his ass. Exactly. And that's what I'm saying. So
I think that's and a lot of people like you
say it is partially luck, too. But I think that's
what a lot of people get too certain. They get
to a certain stature. You know, I'm saying it's like
like you say, you can't teach them or figure how
to be funny. You can't teach a person how to
be funny. But a person that's funny can work at
stand up and and be hilarious. The thing about luck

(44:35):
now that's weird in this industry is people be like, Oh,
you got to be lucky. It's like, Yeah, but the
more times you try something to look, the more like
you have. So I agree with that. Just make your
luck as a percentage, bro. I was going to say
that too. You make your own luck. Yeah. And also,
I believe, like, I really believe it's a timing thing. Like,
everybody can't be at the peak at the same time.
You know what I'm saying?

S4 (44:53):
There's no such thing as luck, because whoever is looking
for something and you're that champion.

S1 (44:57):
Yeah, you're right. It's just March. I mean, that's just
what it is and who you are.

S4 (45:02):
And that's just what it is, you.

S1 (45:04):
Know, it's chance. But think about this, though. If, you know,
if you go and study what people that are casting
are looking for, then you know how to get into
their space. So it's about, you know, I'm saying at
the end of the day, you can always still do something,
you know, At least that's what I believe. I think,
you know, I do some I do think that, you know,
it's obviously gatekeepers and fucking whatever, but at least nowadays,

(45:26):
not as much nowadays because now is different. Now, you know,
back in the day it was like Carson and two
or three shows, whatever, or your TV show or whatever.
But now you build the audience and then bring it
to them. Whereas before they brought you the audience, you know,
in a sense. So also everybody's got their own personal TV.
You no longer have to sit in front of a

(45:47):
TV and be like, The five of us are going
to watch The Daily Show. That's what I'm saying. You know,
if I was going to watch five different fucking things
on our phones, basically every six interests and things that
we want to follow and look at. So it's like, yeah,
there's way more people now that you can talk to
and communicate to and like draw their interest. Do you
think that's ruined standup though, as a, as an art
or like, as a form? Not because the people that

(46:07):
suck are going to suck like you got me like
you could. I will do whatever fate of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You'll fade out. It's like all of this is like
because the base isn't there now. You could build, you
could build a house in two days.

S4 (46:21):
But if or.

S1 (46:22):
You could build a house in a month, it'll be enough.
Which one's going to be sturdier? Like, take the time,
do this thing. I mean, there's a level of consistency
that also helps, but I think there's a lot of
people that are just popping off some shit that like
actually wasn't that good. And then it continues.

S4 (46:35):
That's what L.A. is about. If you have a if
you if you have if you are attractive, we could
turn you into a star. Most definitely. Look at Will Smith.
That's the thing. He was an actor.

S1 (46:47):
Yeah. You know, he had charisma. He was a right place,
right time. You're right. Yeah. That was also a, uh.
Quincy Jones. But you write. Yeah. Charisma. Quincy Jones is like, Yeah,
I need to put you in this.

S4 (46:58):
Movie, right?

S1 (47:00):
You know? Yeah. I get down with him and how
he started Fresh Prince. He invited him to his party,
Quincy Jones party, and he was like all the people.
And he was like, We call the audition right now
at the party is like Quincy Jones birthday. And it's
like heads of all the presidents of the TV networks.

S4 (47:16):
The people that need to say yes was at the party.

S1 (47:18):
And he was like, I can't. He was like, he
was like.

S4 (47:21):
I'm not gonna do it right now. He was like, I.

S1 (47:23):
Came in the room, took him to the room. He said,
Everybody you need to say yes is in that room.
So you they're going to do it now. You ain't
gonna do this. And he was like, Give me 10 minutes.
And then he made the one of the best fucking
one of arguably one of the best sitcoms ever. You know,
I'm saying at least one of the top ones. So
it's just all about, you know, putting in at work
and being prepared.

S4 (47:43):
Not got be ready.

S1 (47:45):
Yeah, being ready. That's what I was saying about putting
the work in before though, because he put in the
work before you know, saying he was he might have
to put in acting work but performing style, you know
what I'm saying. He helped put that before he was
a rapper. You know, he I think he had a
Grammy already. So like first.

S4 (47:57):
Grammy to a rapper.

S1 (47:58):
Yeah, he was already put in that work. But yeah,
but that's just what I'm getting at. It's about work.
And a lot of people don't think comedy is about that.
Work is what I'm trying to get at. Well, comedy
is also about like fucking around. Like you got to
go live. You. It's fun to watch people. Yeah. To me,
we were just like, You.

S4 (48:11):
Definitely have to.

S1 (48:12):
Go out and do this. That's what I'm saying. So like,
I like storytellers. Like I like people that are going out,
live in life, coming back and being like, y'all, you
won't believe what the fuck happened is like since the
beginning of time, like that was how you told comedy
like Fuck is in again the circle one line for
each other. Now you sat around a fucking campfire and
you're like, Yo, dude, Mark I have by Buffalo, you know?
And you're like, Oh shit. And then you talk like

(48:32):
you joke about it, but a lot of the what
we call the great I know on like nobody a
lot of.

S2 (48:39):
Most people don't like him like there.

S1 (48:43):
But a lot of people call it a great hour
storytellers what I'm getting at you know it's a few
of them out there like Stephen Wright or like but
that's the thing is you got to go like live life.
You got to go like, do some movies.

S4 (48:51):
You got to experience Mitch Hedberg.

S1 (48:53):
Mitch Hedberg, Hedberg know I say his name. Excuse me,
What was the last thing you did, brother? You were
growing your life. As hard because I really don't regret
a lot. Yeah, you got to regret something. Oh, no. Uh, okay.
What's the last thing you know that you're not being?
I'm going to tell people about. How about that? No, no, no.
You're like, the last thing I regret is not going

(49:14):
home to see my mom more. Oh, they got the
last thing. Yeah, well, that was real deep. I mean,
you asked me.

S2 (49:22):
I thought.

S1 (49:22):
I thought I was going to be, like, fucking this bitch.

S2 (49:24):
Oh, no, I got. No, I got you. Right. Yeah,
I was mad, sort of. Oh, yeah. So I'm like, Oh, no. Hey.

S4 (49:34):
Oh, that is so.

S2 (49:35):
That's right. Yeah. Oh.

S4 (49:37):
I said, I love you.

S2 (49:38):
Thank you. That is really. Yeah, it was. Even though
I fell, you know? Yeah. But I was like, I
wanted to fight because my mom and I'm like, my mom, too,
you know? Everybody start crying about.

S4 (49:52):
What the fuck delights them. And this was going on.

S2 (49:57):
That's what you said.

S1 (49:58):
What was your last thing?

S2 (50:00):
Um.

S4 (50:03):
Decisions.

S1 (50:05):
Yeah, that's the fuckin house Bagans. I'm a really. He
said life.

S2 (50:10):
Is.

S1 (50:11):
Waking up in the morning.

S2 (50:13):
What everybody does. Listen to.

S4 (50:16):
Decisions in comedy.

S1 (50:18):
Okay? For nothing. Is there anything that you've done that
you think you can come back from?

S4 (50:24):
Oh, no.

S1 (50:24):
I love you. No, no, no. Don't know. I mean, honestly, I've.
I've thought about hitting a lot of people, which.

S2 (50:30):
Is like, well.

S1 (50:32):
I think things like that, like, I'll make it back. But, like,
is that really going to put a little time, the
time stamp? Yeah, exactly. You got in my career, my
work is like, I don't know if we can bring
him in here, but he just punched our last guy
in the face six times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but that's
about it. Like, I feel like you just gotta, like,
move professionally even when you fucking don't like people. Yeah.
So that was like, Yeah, you'll be fine. You got

(50:54):
to ease it a little bit. Eaten a little bit,
sort of, though. I got a little bit of something.
A little bit like I just got on your boat.
That's my thing, is like, I'm not a person to, like,
lie to you and, like. Say some show I don't
believe in. I'll just stay quiet. People like, Oh, you
think that guy's good? Am I? That's crazy, man. I
got to go shower. I got.

S2 (51:11):
To, like.

S1 (51:13):
I'll just be staying out the bullshit.

S2 (51:14):
Yeah, out. Yeah.

S1 (51:16):
And believe. I mean, I got something like Melaleuca to do.
He was, like, good that got gay, and I was,
you know, your windows open, you know, like, it's still like,
that was like he can hear, you.

S4 (51:24):
Know, it's not.

S1 (51:25):
Well, I don't care about like, he'll walk right by
someone and he's like, oh did God I got that
guy's had his goofy like it was there.

S2 (51:32):
And he'll be put away from you.

S1 (51:34):
Yeah, but he's a foot away. Awesome. Like I said
from Cleveland. I know he's heard by the time. So
I was like, Bro, now, like, I got to take
that shit home with him, you know? Was like.

S2 (51:42):
Okay, yeah, Because he heard you. Well, he. He heard
what you said, man.

S1 (51:47):
I heard those are going to say not do you?
Because you six, five and you got to do rag
on it. We're in San Diego. Well they never even
seen black people.

S2 (51:56):
On this side of town. Yeah, they're like, Yo, guys,
scary black people. Is that He's looking for me.

S4 (52:01):
And what, you think I stage? You think I say
it loud? You think you think I say it loud.
But I don't. I don't, I don't.

S2 (52:10):
I think you don't.

S4 (52:11):
Think you.

S1 (52:12):
Say it loud, which is the best part about it
because you just be saying it and I'll sit there
and I'm like, Yeah, I was. Yeah.

S4 (52:17):
To you too. You know?

S1 (52:19):
Not enough though.

S4 (52:20):
You think that's a lot.

S1 (52:21):
But like right now, someone like that, you know.

S4 (52:24):
That's not a lot like you think. That's a lot.
I'm like, like brown.

S2 (52:27):
Long I'm not talking shit about.

S1 (52:29):
Honestly since early in comedy like immediately went.

S2 (52:32):
Oh.

S1 (52:32):
I'll never forget with Potter's House.

S4 (52:35):
Oh yeah.

S1 (52:36):
We are Potter's house. When you used to do the
open mike at his crib in Hillcrest. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.
We pull up there. Yeah. And fucking I watch Bill.
I have a really good set. And then I went
up and I fucking ate it and I got off,
and then we just talk mad shit about everyone else.

S2 (52:48):
Yeah.

S1 (52:48):
That's usually. And that's how we bonded those bodies. I
just kind of what it was like. I mean, it
was fun, but like, that's one of the things you
said in the bag. Like I was saying earlier, like
bombing is my favorite thing to watch. Like, but at
the same time, I don't got to have a knife
because you get to a place where I'm like, I
don't want to see them bomb anymore. I want to
see the best bomb. MAGLI Yeah, I want to see
like an explosion. I want like some that Did this

(53:08):
inspire me? Yeah.

S2 (53:10):
I want to see.

S4 (53:10):
Someone have that's what I just want to do.

S2 (53:15):
I want, I want to say Michael Jackson.

S4 (53:17):
That Michael Jackson do. Now remember that Michael Jackson do.

S1 (53:20):
With Michael Jackson on the face like he dressed like
Michael Jackson.

S4 (53:23):
No, no. It was somebody, uh, I had I do
a michael Jackson me, I had a michael Jackson bit.
And this dude in a in the audience who watched me,
the rapist. And I was like.

S2 (53:33):
What the fuck word?

S4 (53:36):
And there I was looking like a and I was out.
I mean, you know what? Uh, yeah, this thing crazy.
And he was outside. It was like, what you going
to treat me like with that nigger on stage? You know, just.
I just burst out laughing because I was just like, Damn,
I do.

S2 (53:51):
Yeah, It was a white. Do you remember that night?

S1 (53:54):
He was while he was.

S4 (53:55):
On what the white do in a crowd that I
was doing like a michael Jackson bit. And he was like, What?
You mean the rapist? And he was like, sitting in
the front. And I was like, What the fuck is
just do.

S1 (54:04):
Like, he was just someone.

S4 (54:05):
He was the fucking is. He was crazy.

S1 (54:07):
Yeah, he was. He was like, What do you want
to see? Genuinely? What is it Kramer like? What did
you love to have been in that room when he
just screamed the N-word many times? Because, like, you get
to watch, you say it, and you're like, It's over
that history. It's. Oh, you know what I mean? That's
what I mean. Like, I want to watch the biggest
bomb one day of the like the bomb that everybody
watches on, like a video on YouTube. I want to
be like, I was there. Oh, yeah, I president. I

(54:28):
watched him self-destruct and I was like, I want to.
That shit is fired. And that's.

S2 (54:33):
Funny. Yeah.

S1 (54:34):
Whatever inspires you, I manage that as bias, just like
that's the funniest moment. Like, that'll be a core memory.
Like I said it as history. Yeah. Yeah. Because, like,
you'll watch it you like. That's one of the worst
bombs I've ever seen in my entire life. And I
like in the grand scheme of what comedy is, you're
just like, Yo, that guy just wild out. Like, he
just went crazy. He just lost it. I want a podcast.

(54:54):
I haven't even, like, one off, dude, You know, like,
he was on.

S2 (54:57):
Stage, you know? He know what the fuck it was.
He knew exactly what he was doing. He was saying
it like that to be in that room and be like, Wow.

S1 (55:05):
Dude, it's over.

S2 (55:06):
You know? Like, that's crazy. We sit in the back
of the room and you're like, You you ruined everything
for you. You have something.

S4 (55:15):
You fucking just don't care.

S2 (55:18):
Yeah. No.

S4 (55:18):
Yeah. At a point, my apologies were like he was writing, like.

S1 (55:21):
He's like mockery over.

S4 (55:22):
I'm doing this thing. I'm calling.

S1 (55:23):
I'm throwing in the towel. Right? So crazy.

S2 (55:25):
And I got those thing in the face. I'm crying
right now.

S4 (55:29):
You know, I'm tired of these niggas. I got all
these things I get all these days. Yeah, that nigga there,
that nigga there that don't think it over there.

S2 (55:37):
Hey man, he went in real quick for we.

S1 (55:42):
We gonna get out of here To me what's what's
one experience you've had that you never thought would happen
to you when you started comedy Like some you was like, damn,
I like, like an aha moment like, oh fuck, I
got that. You never thought. I mean, I just. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've seen like the what I. Like I was saying earlier,
like I want to be like, the greatest in the shit.

(56:02):
So it's like I only see the tops as like,
I'm not there yet, but there's been things that are like, Oh,
those are like the coolest moments of your life where
whereas like in my head I'm, I'm born and raised
in New York City. I've walked around New York and
it's happened multiple times now where like people come up
to you and they're like, Yo, like, I've seen you
on stage. I go, You're fucking hilarious. What's your name again?
And I'll follow you right there. And it's like, you're
having these moments where it's like all strangers are walking
up to me and being like, Yo, you're great at this. Yeah.

(56:24):
And I'm like, Oh, this is my city. Yeah. I'm
walking around like the city. I grew up in New York.
I was just going to say that, and it's New York, too.
It's not like a bullshit city negative.

S2 (56:31):
It's not? No.

S1 (56:32):
There's mad people here. Like you still have people that, like,
will come up directly to you and be like, Yo,
I've seen you. I remember you, You're great. Give me
your Instagram. Yeah. And that's all that's cool as fuck.
You know, like that feeling of being like, Oh, I'm
really growing here. Yeah. And it's super small scale. Like
you memorable to a more vulgar person, You know what
I'm saying? A person like, Oh, yeah, I could, like,
build an asset in your own city is cool as fuck.

(56:53):
The other day, actually, I signed my first autograph, which
I was cool as far as.

S2 (56:57):
Someone from.

S1 (56:57):
Working with. Yeah, with like an autograph book and was like,
I need your autograph. And I was like, Why? And
they're like, Because you're going to be really successful one day.
And I was like, This is so sick. It is.
And I didn't.

S4 (57:06):
Even. But yeah, I work on your autograph though.

S1 (57:08):
I just fucking the reason I asked, I was like, Can.

S4 (57:10):
You put it like.

S1 (57:12):
It's.

S4 (57:12):
Like you wrote it like nervously, you know.

S1 (57:15):
Nervously.

S4 (57:15):
The way you wrote it. Your name, I.

S1 (57:17):
I signed my signature. I just. I don't know how
to do autograph, but it was a cool moment. I
literally asked her, I'm very honest about it. I was like,
I put my name at the bottom, how she knows me, blah, blah, blah.
And then. And then I was like, Do I sound
like what I was sign.

S4 (57:29):
Up for the fucking.

S2 (57:31):
You know what?

S1 (57:32):
You sign on a check. That's what I told her.
I was like, Yeah, but can you use like you
could you could take my identity. I was like, I'm
about signature.

S4 (57:41):
Well, if you say you were funny.

S2 (57:43):
Right, they could take my identity. Now, there's people out
here to scare me, you know, like, I don't know, vomit.

S4 (57:50):
You go wake up in the morning like who to vote?

S2 (57:52):
What is this? Yeah, exactly.

S4 (57:54):
Who the fuck is a man? What is MAXINE? She wanted.

S1 (57:57):
Something real. I put my social on it.

S2 (57:59):
Like.

S1 (58:00):
Raise my credit, bitch. Come off legitimately. I was like,
I don't know what to sign. And she was like,
Just your signature. I was like, I don't have one.
So now I got to think of one. Yeah, you
better learn how to write cursive. Well, I want to
sign a city one day, and I definitely can't do
what I did on that. No, no, You got to like, you.

S4 (58:15):
Know, she got, like, a birthmark on a big city.

S1 (58:17):
The capital cursive first letter, some squiggly lines that look
close to some letters.

S4 (58:23):
Oh, I hate to see your capital signature.

S2 (58:26):
Signature.

S1 (58:26):
Google signature. Look at this one right behind you, fam.
Right there. Boom. But I got letters, squiggly lines that
I signed. That's. That's the signature. I think it's right here.
So you look to your right.

S2 (58:37):
Big letters, squiggly lines. Another big laughs is terrible. Hey,
you got to do that, Carol.

S1 (58:46):
You say that, then I think everything should just kind
of look like a circle.

S2 (58:49):
Meghan Harry Right. I like your roller coaster of fucking
my sister.

S1 (58:57):
Going to be the Marvel logo. Do just that. And
with the.

S2 (58:59):
Circle one.

S1 (59:00):
Relay. What about you, bro? Was like a aha moment
or like a moment you had to step back and
be like, Yo c breath. You know, moment yo has
line like move.

S4 (59:12):
Like no no moment in like oh I know what
it is just help other comedians.

S1 (59:18):
Yeah. When you see that you get put in other
comedians own you know because that was the thing he
was producing a lot of shows broke budget patches off
on the back he was running.

S4 (59:26):
Yeah. You know, just helping other comedians.

S2 (59:28):
But, uh, yeah.

S4 (59:30):
Just like, help. Yeah.

S1 (59:31):
You got to pick a moment.

S4 (59:32):
Like, that's a moment. That's a fucking moment. What the
fuck is wrong?

S2 (59:38):
Just what the fuck, right?

S4 (59:39):
Yeah, Like this. It kind of made me pick out
of something that you want to talk about. Well, fuck it.
That's my moment.

S2 (59:46):
Yeah, but that's a moment said earlier is.

S1 (59:49):
There was one thing. You were great. He said things, man.

S2 (59:53):
I get the decision. Oh, it was Jason's motherfucking decision.
Give me a sentence. My God. Give me one more.
If I go flex. This is what a straight people
get me on board Member Fuck, yeah, yeah. Give it straight.

S4 (01:00:09):
To the points.

S2 (01:00:10):
It was a thing, though. Was a thing.

S4 (01:00:13):
I just said. We're not ever going to get into that.

S2 (01:00:15):
When you saw we say I feel. Yeah, you know what,
I know I want more. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

S4 (01:00:21):
This is more for what?

S1 (01:00:22):
He was putting other comedians out.

S4 (01:00:23):
Yeah, that's a moment.

S2 (01:00:24):
Not for that. Yeah.

S1 (01:00:25):
Is it any time to quit or thought about quitting? Knew, like,
you know what this means for me, for, you know,
not just those moments where, like I like I said,
I about to this thing on.

S2 (01:00:36):
People using that.

S1 (01:00:37):
Means something about to put on a.

S2 (01:00:39):
Pause on my career. I was fucking press pause because
nobody let me in.

S1 (01:00:44):
Indoors.

S4 (01:00:45):
When I was homeless. Maybe. I don't know when I
was all over.

S2 (01:00:50):
Yeah.

S1 (01:00:51):
That'll make you that'll make you decide if it's worth
being homeless. Is doped out like people.

S4 (01:00:55):
Yeah. You're. You're a different breed like this.

S1 (01:00:57):
Not like. Yo, when you living on a couch, you
don't feel inspired.

S2 (01:01:03):
You don't feel like you want to work. Horrible.

S4 (01:01:05):
Yeah, of course. Yeah.

S1 (01:01:06):
That's the thing is I sort of got. I used
to tell people I was like, Yo, I wanted to
get off the couch. Not really. Like when I. When
I sleep in a bed, I'll go to sleep at
12 when I sleep on a couch while I'm up
till three because I can't sleep and I'll just type
shit up on my phone. Yeah. You're working? Yeah. You're like, Yo,
you are the God, bro. Yeah. Because you're not going
to be able to get good sleep or do anything.
You're just like, Yeah, I might as well just work.
That's hilarious. You go into, like, an insomniac state.

S4 (01:01:28):
What's it just got to say, though? He got to
wrap this shit up.

S2 (01:01:31):
Yeah. Huh?

S4 (01:01:32):
He got the signal from something. Oh, I thought you
got the signal from somebody. Oh, yeah.

S1 (01:01:35):
Say adios.

S4 (01:01:36):
Oh, I thought somebody gave him a signal, like. Yeah,
to negotiate. Wrap it up. Go ahead. Right now. I
was just saying wrap this shit up real good. Yeah.

S1 (01:01:42):
Really Want to tackle abortion, though, beforehand?

S4 (01:01:44):
No.

S1 (01:01:45):
Right up there? No. Would you? What if we know?
So can we all just take a guess?

S4 (01:01:53):
No. No.

S1 (01:01:54):
What would happen if we took an abortion pill? You grab.

S2 (01:01:58):
It if.

S4 (01:01:59):
You want to.

S1 (01:02:00):
They got. They got mail. Uh, what is it? Contraceptive? Yeah,
they got. They got mail. Birth control now, So that's good.

S2 (01:02:07):
Yeah.

S1 (01:02:08):
You taking it.

S4 (01:02:10):
All right, man? What's the. What's the. What's the.

S1 (01:02:11):
I take it every every day.

S4 (01:02:13):
Apple was the shit you wanted to talk about.

S2 (01:02:15):
Well, yeah.

S4 (01:02:16):
What was the shit? You want to talk to me?
I'm not about to feed into that bullshit. Come on, man.
He trying to.

S2 (01:02:23):
What are you talking about, man?

S1 (01:02:26):
We just out.

S2 (01:02:26):
Here chatting up? Yeah. Yeah.

S1 (01:02:28):
Do you have processes of writing, or do you just
go up and write on the stage, all sitting around talking?
I like. I like that. I like storytelling. So I
guess the thing is, like, when you live some shit later,
just write it out. Figure it out, Talk about on stage. Listen, redo. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
Just talk onstage. Repeat. Exactly. You don't write, right? I

(01:02:48):
think you're telling me that before. Yeah, I think earthquake
do that too. He was like, Shit. All right, then
I just kind of work it out and I just
remember two bits and then it's like that. But I
think some sort of writing is good. Like not not
the entire thing. But like, a lot of times when
you just keep it in your head, you'll just forget
things that you used to have. And little tags. Yeah,
things that have worked in certain shows. Yeah. And you,
I think you got to look back and like real
like you got to write the key points. Like you

(01:03:09):
don't wanna write the full thing. I know what the story,
but I think he used to record himself, so it
wasn't like he didn't have a you know what I'm saying?
He didn't have like a way to go back to it. Yeah.
So I think it was still some kind of, like, recording, even.

S4 (01:03:22):
If you got a really good memory though. So. Yeah, well,
I do, I do understand.

S1 (01:03:26):
Like there's certain tags.

S2 (01:03:27):
Sometimes it's like, well, there's some shit that you'll say.

S1 (01:03:30):
Sometimes at a show that you ain't never said in
your life. And that's.

S2 (01:03:32):
My cue. You know, I got to remember this.

S4 (01:03:35):
You know I will remember. I can remember.

S1 (01:03:38):
Well, in that moment. I mean, sometimes you'll forget that.
Now I don't forget hella time I got, I got
1314 tag that is in the ether. If I just go.

S4 (01:03:46):
And just go.

S1 (01:03:47):
I was to throw. And at that.

S4 (01:03:48):
Level, is it a metaphor?

S2 (01:03:49):
So yeah, it's been.

S4 (01:03:51):
Is it a metaphor?

S1 (01:03:52):
I went at that level of drunk, no more friends, so.

S2 (01:03:55):
Yeah. So. But, uh.

S1 (01:03:57):
Yeah, we're going to go here, wrap it up. Anything
that you are would tell any young comedians just in general. Now,
this is the part where you talk about just comedy.
Just shove the open mikes legitimately, just shout over mikes
and do your own thing. Also, don't be corny, bro. Yeah,
that's all people told me. They'll be going, Yeah, all this.
I was like, I'll show up and like, Don't be

(01:04:18):
a hack. Yeah. You know? And that's it. You figure
it out for the people that don't know. Heck, that's
just easy.

S2 (01:04:26):
Then what are you, corny jokes?

S1 (01:04:28):
Yeah. Like it? Why?

S4 (01:04:29):
People and black people be like this.

S1 (01:04:31):
I know. I wouldn't even say it's like that.

S4 (01:04:33):
Whereas, like. Yes, it.

S1 (01:04:34):
Is. It's like I'm just like them. What? A black
people smile so I can see you. I heard that
at least 600 times. You're like that in the zone. Like,
that's super hack. That's also racist as fuck. Yeah, that's actually.

S4 (01:04:46):
I've never heard.

S1 (01:04:47):
I heard a healthy smile. Yeah. You know why? Because
we find that we in white rooms of all people. Yeah.
Black people look like I. Yeah, exactly. That's why I
was saying I was like, black expression is good, but
I did it in San Diego. Mosley US to now? Yeah.
Shut up. Black expressions.

S4 (01:04:59):
A lot of them don't get a twist. A lot
of these communities can't do. They can't cross over to
the other room. So, like, I love that.

S1 (01:05:07):
Yeah, but that's I'm saying I love watching.

S4 (01:05:08):
Yeah. So all these, all these people, the so-called the
greats and all is that they can't go to certain
rooms and.

S2 (01:05:15):
Yeah.

S4 (01:05:16):
And, and do they do shit like, you know.

S1 (01:05:18):
Knock out Andrew Dice Clay from being, you know, doing arenas, whatever.
But they say he was bombing for two days.

S2 (01:05:24):
So I mean, you know, you know, but.

S4 (01:05:26):
You can say.

S1 (01:05:27):
Because he, you know, he had a stick.

S2 (01:05:28):
His if you.

S4 (01:05:30):
Know, there's people for every thing, you know everything like
you know, but to go to a black room and
then go to a white room or to go to
a make the kid's room a church, we've done churches together.
We've done all type of converse thing.

S1 (01:05:42):
I said, I hate I said, I'm Jewish, but I
stopped and I was like, we go.

S4 (01:05:47):
Yeah.

S1 (01:05:47):
So there's we just got to figure it out.

S4 (01:05:49):
We've seen forever. We've seen comedies go to Black Expresses injuries.
It's a.

S2 (01:05:55):
Slow that.

S1 (01:05:57):
Feels good, but I think that's what makes a comedian
a comedian because some people go to just their room.
That's their people have got to be uncomfortable. We're talking
about earlier. Yeah, exactly. You got to go to the uncomfortable.
You're not going to get better, bro. And when I
was being having variety, like you said, going to the
different rooms, different situations, different. But when it was like
2020 and everybody was doing shows, I'm like, Yo, you
got to do shows at Parks now. This is what

(01:06:17):
it was like. Yeah, exactly. That's what people told you
for Zoom. Honestly, personally, for me, I'm like, I want
it to be in person. Like if the only person
who could do that is parks, let's go to a park.
And then I went to New York and everybody was
in a park, right? He was like. This is fucking embarrassing.
It was embarrassing, but. But you were like, I'm going
to do this because I think it's going to help me.
I was doing it. And then you get used to

(01:06:37):
dealing with everything. Yeah, exactly. I was doing about a beach.
Was doing about a beach. When the pandemic happened, it
was illegal. It was illegal to be on the beach
and it was legal to come together. Go. He was
pulling up to.

S2 (01:06:47):
The fucking parking lot.

S1 (01:06:48):
Like an elephant is in my car anyway. So at
one point, like, Yeah, like they were.

S4 (01:06:52):
Like.

S1 (01:06:52):
It shit like that where I was like, yo, it's a,
it was a moment in time that you had to
do the thing and you had to find a way
to do it. And some people did and some people
did it.

S4 (01:07:00):
Argue, I give you a ha aha.

S1 (01:07:02):
Moment I got you.

S4 (01:07:04):
The open might. Which one might open. Might uh, what
an beachcomber. Yeah.

S1 (01:07:10):
Oh, okay. Yeah, that one was our debit debit card.
That was on any last day long. But it was
hard though.

S4 (01:07:16):
The fucking pandemic.

S2 (01:07:18):
Oh, yeah, it was right before the pandemic. You right. Oh,
I'd say it was down the beach, but it.

S4 (01:07:23):
Was the best mike in the city. Yeah, I'm about 440.

S1 (01:07:27):
People every single week.

S4 (01:07:28):
Oh, my God. That people.

S1 (01:07:29):
Not.

S4 (01:07:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

S1 (01:07:31):
Like, just run into a real audience. Bella, let me
run time around. Oh, yeah. That's when I was.

S4 (01:07:36):
Anybody, like, you know.

S1 (01:07:37):
While I wasn't getting booked out here about, like, if
I'm just being honest, I wasn't going book, but I
got a beach camp every week and I cook, and
it was like the same dudes that we're getting booked,
they'd see me cook and I was like, This is
helping at least a little bit for me mentally, because
that was like I was.

S4 (01:07:50):
On that open mike every like.

S1 (01:07:52):
Everything stemmed.

S4 (01:07:53):
The city just opened up.

S2 (01:07:57):
You know.

S4 (01:07:58):
You got so many independent shows going on just off
that open mike. You know, because they're open because a
lot of like you say, a lot of people wasn't booking,
a lot of comedians wasn't booking. So they had an
authentic crowd. You had a deejay, you have popcorn, you
had drinks.

S1 (01:08:15):
Everybody was having a good time.

S4 (01:08:17):
And a great time.

S1 (01:08:18):
But yeah, but you set it up well, bro. You
knew what she was doing. You had. Yeah, you know,
she was doing that.

S4 (01:08:24):
And Billy really tossed up on that one.

S1 (01:08:27):
Billy on. Yeah, for a Billy because a.

S4 (01:08:29):
Lot of oops thing it's like somebody says I'm in
the San Diego comedian's a page on Facebook like I'm
looking for a host. Uh, Billy was like, Yo, this
is the guy. This is the guy to do. He
hit me up and was like, Yo, everybody's saying this.
You the person to.

S1 (01:08:45):
That's hard. Uh, that's all right. They're cool. And stuff
like that happen.

S4 (01:08:48):
Yeah.

S1 (01:08:48):
Oh, my little Omar little TV situations. They just hit
me above the ground. It's just cool when the work
you put in before pays off and people like you.
I'm trying to work with you just cause. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying? Other people put other people put
in the work for you is what I'm trying to say.

S4 (01:09:02):
Like other people, you know, Salazar, Adam Love. And I always, always, always.

S2 (01:09:06):
Uh, yeah, he.

S1 (01:09:07):
He he's putting people up. He's pulling people.

S4 (01:09:09):
No, he the reason why I'm. He's the reason.

S1 (01:09:10):
He started posting.

S4 (01:09:12):
In comedy the way I am. Yeah.

S1 (01:09:14):
Yeah. Because he you are the host the spots it
was every week.

S4 (01:09:17):
Well he not, not the host as far as the
hosting game. Yeah. Like we sat down and watched like,
more in, like Def Jam with some chicken at the
Lucky Lady Casino. Like, Oh, yeah, I was the frozen
chicken nigga. And he was like, This how you do it?
You don't want to take something away from a comedian.
So that's how I know how to. That's what ever.
I mean, you are good. How Yeah. Yeah. So everybody
can say what they want to say about I don't know.

(01:09:38):
But that that do is the reason why he said.
I mean, I was like you, this is how you
going to get into comedy is hosting and before you
know I was hosting all that laugh. Yeah he was
a laugh factory feature featuring for people in this is
like through hosting. I got just to meet so many
people and so yeah, yeah.

S1 (01:09:56):
Adam love.

S2 (01:09:57):
Like, yeah Oh.

S4 (01:09:58):
Was always so loved Adam.

S1 (01:10:00):
Said I to him what would you tell some some
young comedians just trying to get in the game or
it has been in the game at least less time
to you. Or people that's more longer term. That ain't
doing it. Quit.

S2 (01:10:13):
Quit.

S1 (01:10:13):
Quit. I always think that I'm like, if I just
tell everybody to quit eventually, you're the only one left.

S4 (01:10:20):
Ya know, it's like, really? Like what it comes to.
Like I he always say, like, what is it intimidating
to say? Like, what is it economy that you're looking for?

S1 (01:10:30):
What are you trying it out to?

S4 (01:10:31):
Yeah. What is it like? What is it?

S1 (01:10:32):
Write down the things you want in the year.

S4 (01:10:34):
Like what is it like after? Like what? Like whatever
it is, do that. And but you got to, you
got to know that people going to be talking shit.
You got to know people like you don't have family
not believing that you're going to have, you know, you
got to go through all that shit. Yeah, that's how
you that's how you go. That's how you get to it. Like,
you got to go to all that because if you

(01:10:55):
can't go do that, see that you can't deal with people.
Fuck you on money, people fuck you on stage. Some
people fucking started rumors about you. If you can't handle this,
the little shit on the on the server, on the
on the server, you ain't ready for that. The big
boy said that the big boy should come with the
whole scandals all the time. People like it's a whole

(01:11:15):
different like you down. It's a whole different beast. Like, yo, let's,
let's start to beef with each other. So because I
got this special coming it get to that to that
type of shit, like, you know so you got to
be Yeah man that's just a whole.

S1 (01:11:27):
Scheme.

S4 (01:11:28):
Is gonna is. Yeah. That's tough skiing. Yeah. You got
to have toes. Cause if you don't like a thing
like Max. Who? Whatever happened to Max? To somebody else,
they probably would have died. They probably would like. Like, Man,
I'm done with comedy. Like, Oh, man.

S2 (01:11:44):
What?

S4 (01:11:44):
What? The whole, uh, the, uh, the pictures. Is it, uh, sec.

S1 (01:11:50):
Oh, but that's. I mean, they, they're, they kick me
out because I promoted my podcast after I did a
mike and I was young in the fucking game. I
was like, Yeah, you didn't know you as well. But
here's the thing is like, what's wrong with me having
a flyer for my podcast that like someone had given me,
like someone gifted me like these dopest little flyers, like
they were like, cut out really well. And I just
had in my back pocket and I was like, I'll

(01:12:10):
give them to a couple people. And the guy was like,
He's promoting on our like in front of the place
and blah, blah, blah. And I was like.

S4 (01:12:16):
It wasn't even there. It was just a whole you.
It was that with the whole you did.

S2 (01:12:21):
Over.

S4 (01:12:22):
The weekend, it was all done. And the French do
somebody who only been doing it for like a year
if that he's did a week in sec, everybody is
like how cute. You know, I'm supposed to be hosting,
I don't have to be doing.

S1 (01:12:36):
So you hope you did a weekend and they managed
you promote your podcast now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's
that's exactly how it is. I did a weekend with
Leonard and then like after the shows. Yeah I would
say he funny there, he's great. Like he's, he's the
one dude that they put me on the game but
he also has my funny like he like really big
bow me on some like it helped me because he

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was like I'll tell you a couple of things where
he's like, legit, like, don't talk to me about this.
And I was like, Yeah, I mean, you kind of right?
Like when you off stage, you kind of don't want
to talk about that like you hanging out. But it's
like when you onstage or like when you're at the show. Cool.
Talk about that. Be like, Yeah. What do you think
about this type of that? Play with it, have fun
with it. But it's like when you're offstage, also just
be a guy.

S2 (01:13:14):
Who is being human.

S1 (01:13:16):
And so he kind of told me that he was like,
I was like, when you not doing comedy is like,
don't do comedy. Yeah, like if you it's right after show,
talk about it, whatever. But if you out like at
a bar having a beer with like somebody that works
for the industry that you want to learn from me
be regular man. Yeah just be a guy who like
do work when you're working, be a human when you're out,
you know? Yeah, exactly. And so, like, that helped me

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a lot because I was like, I could clock out
mentally clock opera like some people can't. And, you know,
and I got to agree with that because working at
the store, I met a lot of different people and
and it was crazy because all I was doing was
just talking to them like regular people are. Some people like,
Oh my.

S2 (01:13:51):
God, I mean, I'm scared to this is this part, you.

S1 (01:13:54):
Know what I'm saying? Like, Yeah.

S4 (01:13:55):
Well, you spoke about none of that. You know, I
really put people.

S1 (01:13:58):
On, but that's the thing. You got to just that person.
And it's a few.

S2 (01:14:02):
People like people.

S1 (01:14:03):
But with respect, you know, I'm saying, like, I respect
there's only a couple of people that, like, I would
see and be like, Holy shit. Like, I literally I
had walked by Louis C.K., like in the hallway at
the stand, just walk by him. And then I was
like I said, I was Louis. I turned around. I
was like, What's up, man? I was like, Man, that's me, you.
And he was like, Oh, Louis. And I was like, No,
I know you are. I was like, fucking all your comedy.
And I just walked away. But I was like, That
was a moment. And then he ended up coming onstage.

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I was hosting the show and I think this is
so nuts. Like, it's cool as fuck to get to
meet these people. Then you awesome work. Like, don't bother them. Yeah.

S4 (01:14:31):
Yeah. Just how was. Oh, look at Williams. When I
saw her, I was like.

S2 (01:14:36):
Okay. I cause. Fuck, yeah.

S4 (01:14:39):
I like this. Somebody who, uh, you know, I look
at all this light to see some light, and I
was just like, This is a little as nigga for real.
I he small but he light.

S1 (01:14:52):
Mighty well.

S4 (01:14:53):
Like he I'm I'm right here and you right like
he right And I'm just like. Like I'm like damn
like he got like hella security like around them like
they are like. But I just thought, but it like
you say is the OR because I'm often to could
just chill and it was like hell it is around
I guess you know he need more chairs and he
could have got the chair and and went to another

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area but. He sat down. He just sat down and
he say a word to me. Yeah. But, you know,
it was just. Yeah. Just doing like you say, just
like everybody in Philly. Like, you know, everybody just like you, man.

S1 (01:15:27):
Right?

S4 (01:15:27):
We're like, stop being weird, like.

S2 (01:15:30):
All the way, you know, man, People, we're.

S4 (01:15:35):
Hos Where holy weird is fun.

S2 (01:15:38):
And.

S4 (01:15:39):
Fucking we're man. Like, damn this thing I took a
shit before he came and said, Oh, and you all
have been his ass and shit. Like, stop being weird. Like, hey, hey, hey, hey.
When are they going to be struggling to eat? Like
niggas in L.A.? Love that shit. Like, yeah, What.

S1 (01:15:54):
Was that hand gesture?

S4 (01:15:55):
That stroke? My ego. Like, stroke my ego.

S2 (01:15:58):
Every So, you know, he's just like he will be.

S1 (01:16:01):
He's like, we will be like, yeah.

S4 (01:16:03):
Only, only, only maximum thing is I'm.

S2 (01:16:06):
Not. I just seen his hand, bro. He did it.
He said, I don't know. Well, he did have a movement.
He had a movement.

S4 (01:16:12):
Well I had a movement, but you only you will
think of some shit like you get spit on. Come on.
It's only.

S2 (01:16:19):
There. But I know what you say. Yeah, I.

S4 (01:16:21):
Always fucking some shit like people. Yeah, three.

S2 (01:16:24):
Buckets of shit. I used.

S1 (01:16:26):
Up the whole conversation to go Wrong.

S2 (01:16:27):
Story. Listening to him here.

S4 (01:16:32):
We look at somebody after I.

S2 (01:16:35):
You did the motion, man. Oh, man. All right, that's
a good note to end up. Hilariously Blunt podcast.

S1 (01:16:43):
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all your social media, sort of good stuff. And people know,
what if I.

S4 (01:16:48):
Don't.

S2 (01:16:48):
Do that? Media? Hey, do you know.

S1 (01:16:51):
Where they find you? Follow me up Bilal Young Official
Now follow me up. Max Manticof That's a that's my name.
Max Cove Oh, yeah.

S4 (01:17:01):
Bilal first. There you go. Bam, bam.

S1 (01:17:04):
Appreciate you. Well, thank you for Walter for. Yeah, man.
I appreciate your coming out, man. This is funny.

S2 (01:17:08):
This is.

S1 (01:17:09):
Observers. But thank you all for listening. Thank you all
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Appreciate your what you'll be blessed.

S2 (01:17:18):
Look at they do they live.

S3 (01:17:21):
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