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October 23, 2025 58 mins

Remember when you found out you were gay (iconic of you btw) and you thought:

"Oh this is fine – I'll just have a regular heterosexual wife, a couple of kids, and a very elaborate sex life on the side."

Just me? OK, fine.

But the question remains: why do little gay children like me grow up assuming a straight nuclear family is our only option?

Has family always been one man, one woman, and a couple of snot-nosed heirs to the milkman?

This week, we’re talking to writer and educator Kirsty Loehr, author of A Short History of Queer Parenting, as we uncover:

  • What family looked like before “heterosexuality”
  • Matriarchal hunter-gatherers for whom all holes were goals, plus Amazons and Jesus' 2 dads
  • Victorian respectability politics vs. Oscar Wilde
  • DIY lesbian turkey-baster chic
  • And why men are obsessed with spreading their seed.


It’s a fluid-filled romp through the history of chosen families, accidental babies, and deliberate love.

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Episode Credits
Written and hosted by Bash.Guest Kirsty Loehr.Edited by Alex Toskas.Produced by Dani Henion.

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