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June 23, 2025 65 mins

For America, 1979 was one of the coldest years of the Cold War. The U.S. lost a friend. Gained a foe. And then its nightmare scenario for the Middle East began to come true. This is the history of how and why the U.S. military now has a permanent presence in the Middle East.

🚩In this interview, we also discuss the following:

  • The dangers that U.S. military presence in the Middle East poses to U.S. democracy at home,
  • History of America's military support of Israel,
  • How America switched from Vietnam to the Middle East,
  • The Shah of Iran,
  • The Iran-Iraq War,
  • History of some events that led up to the 9/11 tragedy, and
  • What would happen if the U.S. military left the Middle East?


🚩About My Guest Scholar:

My guest for this episode, which was recorded in early January 2024, is Dr. Andrew Bacevich, co-founder and Emeritus Board Chair of the ⁠Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft⁠. He is Professor Emeritus of International Relations and History at⁠ BostonUniversity⁠. He is a graduate of West Point, a Vietnam War Veteran, and a retired colonel of the US Army.

Dr. Bacevich is the author, co-author, or editor of more than a dozen books, including the following:

  • The New American Militarism,
  • The Limits of Power,
  • Paths of Dissent: Soldiers Speak Out against America’s Forever Wars, and
  • America’s War for the Greater Middle East


🚩My Recommendations:

Iran's 1979 Revolution: Dr. Naghmeh Sohrabi, Brandeis University

Iran's Grand Strategy: Dr. Vali Nasr, Johns Hopkins University


🚩Regarding Images:

Left: Pres. Jimmy Carter, 39th U.S. president (1977-81)

Center: Leonid Brezhnev, General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (1964-82)

Right: Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, King of Iran (1941-79)


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