April 1, 2025 • 52 mins
The deadly attack on Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics stands as one of the most shocking moments in sports history - a terrorist operation that transformed what should have been a global celebration into a horrific hostage crisis broadcast live to over a billion viewers worldwide.
When eight members of the Palestinian militant group Black September scaled the Olympic Village fence in the early morning hours of September 5th, they set in motion a tragedy that would forever change how we approach security at major events. Disguised in tracksuits and armed with rifles, pistols, and grenades, they targeted the Israeli team's quarters with deadly precision. What followed was a 20-hour ordeal where the world watched helplessly as negotiations failed and a botched rescue attempt led to devastating consequences.
The Munich Massacre reveals multiple layers of tragedy beyond the immediate bloodshed. Germany had deliberately chosen minimal security to create a more welcoming atmosphere, spending less than $2 million (compared to over $1 billion for modern Olympics). A police psychologist had even predicted almost exactly what would happen in scenario #21 of his security assessment, yet his warnings went unheeded. ABC announcer Jim McKay's marathon 16-hour broadcast culminated in his haunting words: "Our worst fears have been realized."
We explore how this watershed moment fundamentally altered counterterrorism approaches worldwide, sparked Israel's covert Operation Wrath of God, and forced difficult questions about how society responds to terrorism. The cultural impact continues through films like "Munich" and the recently released "September 5th," ensuring this dark chapter remains relevant fifty years later. Through firsthand accounts and declassified information, we examine why this particular attack resonates so powerfully in our collective memory and what lessons it still offers today.
That is the story of the 1972 Israeli Olympic Massacre. https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/newss-hostage-rescue-team-marks-30-years/view#:~:text=At%20the%201972%20Olympics%20in,HRT)%20was%20launched%20in%201983.
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/13/nx-s1-5126526/munich-1972-massacre-olympics-september-5
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/munich-massacre.htm
Sportscaster Jim McKay on the 1972 Munich Olympic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj25Aqm8W-o&t=2s
1972 Olympics Special: Tragedy of Munich Games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2Z3FmGLVU0&t=19s
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh, hey there, oh hey there.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm Kate, I'm Bradley and this is the History.
Buffoons.
Hello, yes, how are you?
I'm well, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
today?
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Hello, yes, how are you?
I'm well.
How are you today?
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Uh-huh, it's a whirlwind outside today and
yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It's quite windy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
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Well um.
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I'm sure we have some , just not this particular one
that was right in front of ourhouse that luckily fell away
from the house instead oftowards the house.
However, I currently have a carthat I haven't been using but
kind of wanted to sell.
Well, let's just say we can'tsell it anymore.
Yeah, because a tree fell onthat and blew out the back
window, fucked up the frontwindshield, dented the fuck out
(01:07):
of the side.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, so yeah now it's scrap metal pretty much so
I'm gonna have to call a placeto either donate and or scrap it
and see if I can literally getanything out of it yeah which
will probably be not much and ifanyone has any tips on how to
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(01:30):
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said duct tape and you suggestedputting duct tape around your
shoes and just clumping around.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You know how quickly that would get gummed up with
like the dust.
Yes, the gravel driveway I meanit?
Wouldn't, it wouldn't work atall.
So whoever suggested that?
Fuck off seriously duct tapeokay.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So, um, this is a little bit more of a somber
episode, so I don't want to likedo too much embellishment here
this morning.
Um, but briefly, we do haveourselves our classic gin and
tonics we do.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yes, and I like how you said morning, so now people
think we drink all day what Isay you said this morning this
morning.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's not morning.
It's six o'clock in theafternoon, in the evening.
Wow, I just woke up from a nap,so maybe I did think it was
morning.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I don't know I just didn't want people thinking
we're not.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
We woke up, I woke up from a nap, so maybe I did
think it was morning.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't know.
I just didn't want peoplethinking that we woke up.
I woke up this morning and Igrabbed myself a beer.
That's such a good line from asong.
By the way, name that artistGarth Brooks.
The Doors, garth Brooks.
I don't know, maybe it wasChris Gaines.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But so it is not the morning, it is the evening.
It's not the morning, it is theevening.
And yeah, so we have ourclassic gin and tonics Cheers.
Yes, cheers to you.
It's so delicious, one of myfavorite beverages.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's really so basic.
A lot of people don't like ginand tonics.
Yeah, I get it, but I actuallyrather enjoy them.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Plus there's another good line from a different band
in a song called um from oasis.
Now I'm just drawing a blank onthe line.
It's like give me gin and tonic.
Literally the line he said I'mfeeling supersonic give me gin
and tonic okay you could have itall, but how much do you want
it?
You fall okay all right, I'msorry.
I'm not trying to be happybecause I know you're about to
kill that mood.
I'm about to kill it.
I was bringing it down.
Think about the trees.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, so I actually do not have a question for you
today.
I'm just going to kind of gointo it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Sure, that's, fine.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So we're going to talk about the 1972 Munich
Olympics.
Oh yeah, okay, do you know it?
You weren't born yet, but I'msure you've heard.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No, I've heard of it.
There's a movie with, I think,Christian Bale in it.
Isn't it just called Munich?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Eric Bana, eric Bana, that's it Not.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Christian Bale.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm sorry, but yes that is based off of this story.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Okay.
So just a week into the 1972Munich Olympics, on the morning
of September 5th, a group ofPalestinian militants known as
Black September took 11 Israeliathletes and staff hostage.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
What did they do?
The?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
other 11 months of the year, not a time for jokes.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Jeez, are you sure?
I mean, they got a tight window.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
30 days is all you get a year, so for 20 hours.
Okay, how many people?
I'm sorry, how many people?
11 um Israeli athletes so like.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Olympians yeah, yeah, yeah and their staff wow so a
decent amount of people yes um.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So for 20 hours this drama actually unfolded live on
television.
That's wild, yeah.
So there was also a botchedpolice rescue, which amplified
the situation.
Sure, and because it wasbroadcast live, the suspense
(05:02):
pretty much grouped.
Everybody 're talking aboutmillions, if not a billion,
people watching right um, and itwas stirring memories of past
emotional events, like theassassination of jfk in dallas
in 63 so it was only nine years,yeah, so yeah, and this time
these killings, because theythere are killings.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It happened in Munich , which is kind of the
birthplace of Nazism, and thesevictims were Jewish.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Right.
So they thought it was kind oftied to that, or something.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
We're going to go into the Israeli-Palestinian
conflict a little bit tounderstand why Black September
targeted these athletes.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So it is actually one of the world's longest disputes
.
The conflict's origin tracedback to the late 19th and early
20th centuries with the rise ofZionism, which is a movement for
Jewish homeland, andPalestinian nationalism.
(06:12):
So both groups laid claim tothe same territory under Ottoman
and later British rule, so theywere essentially fighting for
this land.
So in 1948, there was anArab-Israeli war, and the
establishment of Israel in 1948triggered a war that resulted in
the displacement of hundreds ofthousands of Palestinians,
(06:35):
creating a massive refugeecrisis.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay.
And then after that, in 1967,there was the Six-Day War.
Six-day War Israelis' victoryin this war resulted in its
occupation of the West Bank,gaza Strip, east Jerusalem and
other territories, furtherexacerbating this conflict and
(07:00):
creating a whole new wave ofPalestinian refugees Sure, okay,
and creating like a whole newwave of Palestinian refugees
Sure, okay.
Then we have the PalestineLiberation Organization, which
is called the PLO and that wasformed in 1964.
And it became the umbrellaorganization that represented
the Palestine people.
Okay, and it sought to establisha Palestinian state and
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employed various tactics,including armed struggles
essentially right so blackseptember in jordan between 1970
and 1971, during two weeks ofduring two weeks of september,
like continuous two weeks.
Sure, king hussein of j,fearing the growing power of the
(07:45):
PLO within his country,launched a military crackdown,
oh dear, that resulted in thedeaths of thousands of
Palestinians and the expulsionof the PLO from Jordan.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So this event was called Black September.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
And it was a major blow for the Palestinians.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So did they just take their name from it, or is that
just what they did, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So a militant group called themselves Black
September after the Jordancrackdown, and it was the
largest faction of, like the PLO, that organization Sure, and
its primary aim was to avengethe events in Jordan, okay, and
to draw international attentionto the Palestinian cause, gotcha
, okay.
So Black September representeda more radical element within
(08:33):
the Palestinian movement,willing to carry out some pretty
high profile attacks.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Sure, I'm sure they wanted to.
Yeah, because if they're tryingto bring attention to them, yes
, you don't want to do somerandom, stupid little whatever.
Yes, you want to bring as muchfocus on it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, so yeah so their mission was essentially
retaliation and to release.
Have 200 palestinian prisonersreleased from israeli jails okay
and they came into action atthe 1972 Olympics.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean it's really unfortunate they had to do it
then.
I understand why they did itthen, though because, again,
they're looking for the mostamount of visual.
Spectators yeah spectators tosee what they're trying to
accomplish, and obviously theOlympics are very important to
the world and so on, andwhatever society, yeah so yeah,
(09:27):
I mean, I guess it's a goodplace to do it, but that kind of
sucks yeah so the 72 munichgames marked germany's first
olympics since the 1936 berlingames, which had been heavily
criticized because, it was usedas a Nazi platform essentially.
Yeah, I mean four years, well,two years before, either way.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And then.
So Germany is still likeseparated, segregated at this
time.
West Germany and East Germany,so they weren't fully united yet
until 1989, I think it wasunder, was it Reagan?
Yeah, was it Reagan?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, tear down that wall, yeah mr
gorbachev yeah, um, so they.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
There was also a 1968 mexico city olympics.
Just before those games, apeaceful student protest turned
deadly, with hundreds killed bygovernment forces.
That may be a future episode,so I'm not going to go into that
right now.
Fair enough, but so this waskind of germany's chance to like
hey, we're gonna do it, it'sgonna be great, we're all happy,
(10:34):
we're gonna put our past in thepast yeah, exactly.
So in contrast to that, yeah,munich's organizers opted for a
low-profile security approach.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
To try and make it seem more friendly.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Oh jeez.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yes, so they spent less than $2 million and they
used a bunch of unarmedpersonnel, essentially.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That seems like a terrible fucking idea.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
It was a crucial misstep.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, I mean clearly we wouldn't probably Personnel.
Essentially, that seems like aterrible fucking idea.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It was a crucial misstep, yeah, I mean clearly we
wouldn't probably I mean,there's a good chance we
wouldn't be talking about thisif they didn't go all cheapo on
the security.
I read somewhere that it wasless than $2 million then,
whereas 2001 was something or2004 was something, was it four
2004?
Was that the last Olympics,where 2002, 22, 22, 2022 that's
(11:32):
what I'm talking about less thantwo million at the 74 olympics
versus the 2022 olympics, and Idon't remember the number, but
it was massively different well,I mean, yeah, it's 50 years,
but yeah still, yeah, that'swild so, according to a
declassified israeli report.
Okay, the israeli delegation hadconcerns about the lack of
(11:53):
security, especially in theirground floor accommodations oh
so easy pickings yes wow, theynoticed the lack of security
personnel but hoped thateverybody was undercover that's
wild yeah, no, we weren't evendoing that before the games.
(12:15):
Police psychologist gregorsieber gregor was tasked with
predicting potential securitythreats.
Predicting Was he like apsychic.
He was a psychologist, yeah,but they have that now.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I know, like I can predict no, something's going to
happen.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
No, they've got like crisis organizers and stuff like
that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, there's a lot of people that organize crisis.
You know what I mean Crises.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
So he outlined 26 different scenarios, including
explosions and plane crashes,like pretty much this could
happen and this could happen,sure, and scenario 21 was eerily
accurate.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Oh dear.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Armed Palestinians breaching the Olympic Village,
taking Israeli hostages,demanding prisoner releases and
then escaping to an Arab capital.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Wow, and that's ultimately the gist of it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That was scenario number 21, yes, and German
organizers were like no, let'stone this down, sieber.
Like let's tone this down.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
We don't want to raise any alarms here.
So they argued that suchextreme measures could only be
prevented by canceling the gamesaltogether and there's no way
they were going to do thatbecause of all the money
involved, yes and such.
And then germany would lookweak if they they canceled it or
whatever it might be so they'retrying to save face yeah, and
they're, they pretty much messedup.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, so the 20th Olympiad began on August 26,
1972.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
With the West German organizers aiming for cheerful
games.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, who doesn't want a good cheerful game?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
American swimmer Mark Spitz was making history.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I know that name, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
He won seven gold medals.
A record stood until michaelphelps in 2008 I was gonna say
that and he won eight andmichael phelps won eight oh, I
thought he won nine.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It was only eight that he won and that one that's
the um information, informationI have that's fine, because I
know he I mean he's got aboatload, because maybe it was
another game that he won moreyeah, I think he broke his own
record or something.
Maybe I could be wrong yeahit's, I thought, one of them.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
He also won nine, but either way, I mean that's a lot
of fucking medals so over 120countries were in these games
participating and, for the firsttime, the olympics were
broadcast globally via satellite, reaching a billion viewers.
Wow, for more than a week, thegames proceeded without incident
(14:47):
, until the early hours ofseptember 5th yes, remember,
remember the 5th of september at4 30 am munich time yeah eight
black september terroristsdisguised as athletes scaled the
unguarded fence of the OlympicVillage.
Oh Lord.
(15:07):
They were heavily armed withrifles, pistols and grenades and
grenades, Jesus.
While some Black Septembermembers were already in Germany,
Israeli intelligence believedthe attack was planned and
trained in Syria.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Okay, the attack was planned and trained in Syria.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Israel also accused Syria of helping the FAYDAIN,
which is Arab guerrillas, obtainGerman work permits for
reconnaissance.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh, so they could kind of scope it out.
Yes, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So, in the lead up to the games, members of the Black
September arrived in Munich,separately surveying the Olympic
Village and even obtaining jobsamongst the 30,000 workers.
Yeah, athletes from Uruguay,whose quarters were next to the
Israelis, recalled seeing all ofthese militants essentially as
(16:01):
workers, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So at 4.20 am, as the alembic village slept, the
terrorists moved in sure it's agood time to do it, because they
know they're gonna a be thereand be.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The people are sleeping so yeah less to get in
the way so two telephone linemensaw a group in track suits aka
athletic gear scaling the fence.
They didn't think anything ofit, because it was actually a
pretty common sight whenathletes were running late they
would scale these fences to getwhere they needed to go.
So, they just let it go yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Wow, that's just wild .
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Because maybe they should stop scaling the fences.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Once out of view of these men, the group revealed
the weapons and headed towardsthe Israeli quarters.
Sure, so the Israelis.
They shared five apartments inlike a three-story building.
Okay, and early that morningthe intruders number unknown, um
, well, they said eight, butthere's a little bit of conflict
(17:07):
.
but they targeted apartmentnumber one okay so wrestling
coach mosh weinberg, 32 yearsold, half asleep, answered a
knock on the door, a voice askedin german is this the israeli
team?
Seeing that the men were armed,weinberg tried to slam the door
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shut, yelling for his roommatesto escape.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
He was immediately hit by submachine gunfire oh wow
, so they went to town rightaway.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, that's wild the same scene repeated in the
second apartment.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Okay, wrestler, so did these.
Does gunfire not wake otherpeople up?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You know, I actually didn't read anything about
anyone else in the building.
Because I feel like theymight've had their own like.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Little, little house.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Complex.
Yeah, a three story complexwith all these little apartments
in it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
But even if, okay, let's say that's the case, how
did the other rooms not getwoken up by this gunfire?
They just took out this.
What was it?
German wrestler coach guy Isthat?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
what you said, moshe Weinberg.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, he was the the wrestling coach.
Yeah, so I mean, they just shothim and no one heard that.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I didn't read anything about others being.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
That's wild, yeah, anyway, sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Okay, so wrestler Yosef Romano, despite being on
crutches from the competitioninjury, fought back attempting
to disarm a terrorist with aknife.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And he was fatally wounded.
Of course, this is chilly.
To demonstrate their brutality,the terrorists castrated Romano
.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Why.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And left his mutilated body as a warning.
Oh good.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Lord.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, so this is pretty dark, yeah, as a warning.
Oh good lord, yeah, so this ispretty dark, yeah, in apartment
number three, as the terroristsgathered more hostages and
forced them towards apartmentone.
Like they're like, let's justall go to apartment one to kind
of keep tabs on everyone.
Sure, wrestler gad sobari brokefree okay he dashed down a
flight of stairs towards anunderground parking garage, with
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bullets whizzing past him.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh, good Lord.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Meanwhile back in apartment supposedly he escaped.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Really.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yes.
Meanwhile, back in apartment,one wrestling referee, yosef
Gutfrund Okay, I'm so sorryabout the pronunciations, it's
all right, I mean you're not.
He was a large man.
He held the door shut againstfive attackers and, shouting in
Hebrew, he said boys, get out,right.
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But it was too late.
The door was forced open andthe terrorists stormed in.
Eighteen Israelis managed toescape the chaos.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But nine were taken hostage.
Wow, they were bound hand andfoot, grouped in threes and
forced onto a bed.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
The terrorists then dragged Moshe Weinberg's body
onto the steps in front of theIsraeli compound as a message to
the German police and the world.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Jesus Christ, so you said that 4.20 in the morning.
They started doing this as amessage to the German police and
the world, Jesus Christ.
So you said that 4.20 in themorning they started doing this,
mm-hmm.
Where are we at right now?
Do you have a time frame?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yes, so now we're about 6 am.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Okay, so it's only been going on for less than two
hours.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I would imagine people are starting to wake up
because it's the Olympics,things got to get done and so on
, right.
So when do people startrealizing some shit's going down
?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Closer to nine o'clock, I think.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Holy shit, not till nine.
Yeah, late start, I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, the people in the Olympic Village don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
The world, I think is a different story.
But I'm not sure on the timingof that, but 6 am Munich, police
, alerted by the escapedIsraelis, had arrived at the
Olympic Village.
A crisis center was set up inthe village administration
building, which was about 200meters away.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Police Chief, manfred Schreiber, quickly assembled
600 officers and armored cars tocordon off the area.
Jesus Christ, an ambulanceretrieved Moshe Weinberg's body
at this point.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And he was dead though.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
So he was the first man killed.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, he was the castrated one or whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No, that was another wrestler.
That's right, this was thewrestling coach.
Yeah, he was the one shot yes,for initially uh, holding the
door closed.
That's okay, and there's a lotof people in here yeah, and I'm
not gonna remember all the names.
No shortly after police chiefschreiber boldly approached the
apartment, he was met by lutifefif okay, which is um a group,
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the group's leader, the um blackseptember leader, who was
wearing a white tennis hat,sunglasses and his face was
blackened, so he probably hadlike a hood on or something Sure
.
And Schreiber consideredgrabbing Afif but was deterred
when Afif revealed a handgrenade.
Oh yeah, thumb on the pin,asking do you want to take me?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
like taunting him yeah, I mean they clearly went
in there and they wanted tocause some mischief obviously
yeah that's just being a reallytame word, but clearly they were
ready to go to they were ifthey needed to, yeah, so at 9 am
, the terrorist threw a messageout a window demanding the
release of 234 Arab prisonersheld in Israeli jails.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Wow, the list also included German leftist
terrorists and a Japaneseterrorist involved in the Lod
Airport Massacre.
In the Lod Airport Massacre Nowsame year, 1972,.
Lod Airport Massacre was aterrorist attack by three
Japanese Red Army membersrecruited by the Popular Front
(23:13):
for the Liberation of PalestineExternal Operations.
They condensed it into theacronym PFLPEo that's still a
lot yeah so they opened fire atload airport, killing 26 and
injuring 80.
Good lord and one attacker wascaptured, the others killed,
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causing a bunch of outrage.
So at this time, ironically 400yards away, the Olympic Games
were going on.
Isn't that crazy to think thatthey kept going with it 2,000
fans were cheering at avolleyball game between West
Germany and Japan, completelyunawares.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, it's just strange to think about that
these people could be thatunaware of what's going on 400
yards away.
And yeah, let's watch somevolleyball, cheer.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, they had no idea.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
All these people are getting killed and held hostage.
That's just wild.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
So the Palestinians demanded that they and their
prisoners be flown out of WestGermany to the Arab nation, to
any Arab nation.
They're like we don't care,Just get us over there.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Just get us out of here.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, they actually did specify, not Lebanon or
Jordan.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Oh, so they did not want to go to those two, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And they wanted three airplanes departing at
different intervals and theauthorities had three hours
until noon at this point tocomply or the hostages would be
executed, two every 30 minutes.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
What Okay?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
A hotline was established between Munich and
Jerusalem.
Israeli Prime Minister GoldaMeir and her advisors quickly
decided no negotiations withterrorists, no prisoner releases
, full responsibility for rescueactions given to the Germans
and no objection to safe passagefor the terrorists if the
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hospitals hostages wereguaranteed release okay so we do
not negotiate with terrorisms,terrorisms terrorists.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Um yeah, I mean that's pretty much a stance for
a lot of countries they don'tnegotiate with terrorists
because then it just gives them.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It gives more people reason just to do terrorist acts
.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So West German Interior Minister Hans-Dietrich
Genscher.
Okay was fairly limited in hisoptions.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Well, yeah his hands are kind of tied.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
He personally bargained with the terrorists,
offering unlimited money for thehostages release, which was
rejected, and then he offeredhimself and other German
officials, hopefully whatthey're knowing as hostages.
But was also rejected.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Did they reject him because they wanted to make a
statement with these Israelipeople?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm assuming it's the less movement of these hostages
, the better.
Sure, because if there's anykind of exchange, things can go
down right.
Oh yeah, so the minister didstall for time, but he falsely
promoted sorry, he falselypromised to persuade israeli to
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release these prisoners, like hetold him.
okay, we're gonna do it yeah inreality, the germans believed
the hostages fate were alreadysealed.
So he's probably like thisisn't even gonna work, but I'm
gonna lie to him anyway, sure?
So gensher boldly demanded tosee these hostages.
He was taken to a bedroom andhe saw the nine men bound, and
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one said that they were doingokay.
At Gensher's pleading, thePalestinians pushed back the
execution deadline to 5pminstead of noon, ultimately
changing it A matter of fourdifferent times.
Sure, but it ended up being 5pm, gotcha.
So West German authoritiesdeployed 15 volunteer police
sharpshooters wearing armoredvests under athletic uniforms.
(27:33):
Okay, they were tracked by zoomlens television cameras from
the Olympic TV tower.
That's wild, broadcasting liveto the world and to the
terrorists themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Why would they broadcast that to the world?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I just want your opinion Because I mean, why
would you want to show that toeverybody?
Because you know shit could gosouth real quick with what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I know.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And why would you want to show people that on TV?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I know.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I trying to hide it, that's not what I'm saying.
Yeah, but do you really?
I wouldn't want to watch someperson live get killed?
I've actually seen that, haveyou?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
yeah, it was when I was working at audible in um the
mid 2000s, like 2015, somethinglike that.
And oh, shep from fox news,shep something that was.
That was the anchorman shepsomething.
But fox news was always on andthere was like a developing
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story of of a car chase and theguy got out and they can see the
live broadcast a couple secondsbefore the rest of the world
does okay so they can see, likewhat's coming, that they can
like shut off the live feed orwhatever if needed yeah they
didn't get to it in time ohand um, the driver of the car
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that was um doing the the highchase.
He got out and he essentiallyshot himself on live TV.
That's wild.
And Shep was like right beforeit happened he said shut it off,
shut it off, shut it off.
Like it wasn't enough time,like he saw this only seconds
before and he kept saying shutit off, shut it off, shut it off
.
And then it happened.
And then it went to commercial.
(29:24):
He came back on and was waslike I'm so sorry.
You all saw that that wasn'tsupposed to happen.
This is how we set that up,like we got.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
We have seconds to see this right before it's aired
and yep, have you ever uh heardof the song?
Hey man, nice shot by the bandfilter no it came out and I
believe 95, I want to say 94, Ithink it was 95.
I saw them at Summerfest in1995.
Um, that song and I don'tremember the gentleman's name,
(29:53):
but basically the the whole,just the basis of that song is
uh was it a Congressman orsomething like that.
Uh was giving a speech on TVand he shot himself.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, that's just fucking wild.
It is wild, yeah, that someonewould go to that length to do
that, for I don't know.
I mean whatever.
Anyways, it's a really goodsong.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
So American television producer, excuse me
announcer, he was an announcer.
He was an announcer for ABC.
Announcer for abc sports.
Okay, okay his name is jimmckay.
He provided a live 16 hourplay-by-play coverage of the
crisis wow so, initially, livetelevision coverage was switched
(30:39):
off, hoping to give thesharpshooters an advantage.
As they like, moved intoposition, sure, because the
terrorists were also watching.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
But they couldn't get clear enough targets.
If the sharpshooters took outone captor, the others inside
would likely retaliate againstthe hostages.
And then, at this time, theyjust showed the world what was
happening.
Yeah, and crowds were drawn bythis live report, gathered
around this area.
German olympic olympic hostessboldly approached the apartment,
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spotted a terrorist peeking out.
Jesus urged him in english tosurrender, promising no harm.
He quickly refused.
Well, of course.
And then a large group of ofyoung Jewish individuals broke
through police lines singingHatkeva, which is the Israeli
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national anthem.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Followed by we Shall Overcome, which is another song
Amidst all these like sirens andhovering helicopters and like I
I guess it was just for thehostages like they were like,
hey, we're here, we're we werethinking about you yeah I mean
thoughts and prayers oh god,that is such a good uh, anthony
(32:00):
jeselnik, uh special, by the wayso west german authorities had
already made a crucial decisionthey would not allow the
terrorists to fly away with thehostages.
Yeah, the chancellor deemed itunacceptable for an honorable
nation emphasizing theirresponsibility for the israeli
safety.
Okay, okay, realizing that theycouldn't stall the increasingly
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agitated terrorists much longer, both sides needed a new plan.
Sure, the terrorists andhostages would be transported to
Munich's airport and flown outon a Lufthansa.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Can you try it again?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Lufthansa.
I think it's.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Lufthansa.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, what is that?
Is that an airport?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
It's an airline.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Airline, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That word.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Lufthasana Lufthansa.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Lufthansa.
I've made you watch Goodfellasonce before, right.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
One of the whole big things is the Lufthansa.
Now you're making me fuckingsay it wrong, sorry, but yeah,
it's an airline, if I'm notmistaken.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Okay, like a Delta or a Southwest.
Yeah, okay, yeah, lufthansa.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
There it is.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Flight number 727.
Oh, good number, with Cairo astheir destination.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Going to go see some pyramids.
Their new deadline was 7 pm.
Moved it back again.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay, so the 727 had flown to a west german air base
about 60 miles from munich.
Yeah, there, no crew waswilling to fly this plane well,
can you blame?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
them, they didn't want to be a part of this that
didn't matter.
The germans never intended themto leave anyway no, they were
just basically doing it for show, right?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
so plans were underway to just deploy
sharpshooters to the air base,hoping a sniper could eliminate
the leader, sure prompting theothers to surrender yeah, I
guess.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I mean, I see the logic, but probably poor, poor.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yes, so Black September also misled everyone
about their destination.
Upon reaching the airfield,they demanded an eight-person
crew revealing their finaldestination after takeoff.
So we don't actually know wherethey were going to go.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
We don't know where they actually wanted to go.
Yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
At 10 pm.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah go.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
We don't know where they actually wanted.
Yeah, gotcha at 10 pm.
Yeah, nearly 18 hours after theassault began, the eight
terrorists, with theirblindfolded hostages tied
together, were led out of thebuilding and onto a german army
bus okay they were driventhrough a tunnel to a makeshift
helicopter pad 275 meters away.
All right, they boarded twohelicopters for a 25-minute
flight to the airport Gotcha,and then was preceded by a third
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helicopter carrying Germanofficials and Israeli
intelligence.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
And this was they were taking them to the Munich
airport.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It was a German base airport but yes, essentially.
Gotcha At the airport, 500soldiers were deployed.
Oh, jesus only fivesharpshooters were positioned to
take out eight terrorists.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
They couldn't find three more I guess not that
sucks.
I mean, I feel like that's.
I understand they're kind oftrying to figure this out on the
fly, but damn yeah okay.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
When the helicopters landed, two terrorists checked
the 727.
Okay, two more then ordered thehelicopter crews out, violating
their promise not to useGermans as hostages.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Jesus.
The five sharpshooters three inthe control tower and two on
the field were instructed tofire when the terrace presented
the most targets.
The terrace never exposed morethan four at once, adding to the
problem right the local policesharpshooters declined infrared
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scopes offered by the army,relying on regular scopes in a
flood lit shadow field field.
Shadow filled field there it iswhy?
Why, I don't know fuckingidiots.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Good lord, I mean you .
So because you said this is at10 o'clock.
Yes, right under the cloak ofnight it's nighttime, the only
way you're gonna have lights isobviously artificial lights,
causing a lot more shadows a lotof shadows and oh wow, pretty
dumb to deny wanting, thoughlike no, we're good, we got this
(36:35):
, yeah, sharpshooters not sosharp, hey, oh.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So moments later a sniper fired, oh shit followed
by the other, so chaotic gunfireerupted.
Two terrorists guarding thehelicopter crews were hit and a
pilot was wounded, oh dear.
A third terrorist on the tarmacwas killed okay the leader, in
his tennis hat and blackenedface, dove under a helicopter
(37:03):
and returned fire, oh dear.
And he disabled the controltower's lights and radio.
Oh wow, a Munich policesergeant taking cover by the
control tower was killed.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Oh geez.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Meanwhile, the Israeli hostages remained in the
helicopter surrounded by thisgunfire.
Sure, a terrorist threw a handgrenade into one of the
helicopters, killing five of thehostages inside.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Good Lord.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
The remaining hostages in the second
helicopter were machine gunnedto death.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Oh, so all the hostages were killed.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, wow.
And surprisingly, the battle ofthis gunfire continued for
another hour I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I mean, they probably didn't know that those people
are dead.
Yeah, it's not like they'rejust gonna like, oh well, lost
her shot, let's go home, folks.
I mean, obviously it's not likethat, so, oh, that's terrible
so five terrorists, includingthe leader, were killed and
three surrendered.
Well, I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Get this False.
False rumors spread that allthe terrorists were captured and
all the hostages were alive.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Who would spread that fucking rumor?
Because that's a dick move todo.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And this was broadcast live, so like the
constant narration of what'shappening, right?
So it prompted prematurecelebrations in israel, sure,
and four hours later, germanauthorities admitted that the
news wasn't was a mistake, right?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I'm not sure how it became a mistake, but that's
wild that people would allowthat to get out.
But they.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
They had captured three terrorists the ones who
surrendered two of whom werewounded, but their identities
were unknown.
Their pictures were broadcastto identify them and trace their
movements okay black september,demanded their release,
threatening further attacks ofcourse they did the morning
after the murders, 80 000 peopleattended a memorial service in
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the Olympic Stadium.
Wow, their surviving Israeliteam, heavily guarded, sat with
the other athletes.
Wow, the stadium was draped inblack and, for the first time in
Olympic history, the flags ofall 122 nations and the Olympic
flag flew at half-mast.
That's crazy and the Olympicflag flew at half-mast.
(39:26):
That's crazy.
Munich's Philharmonic Orchestraplayed the somber funeral march
from Beethoven's Symphony.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
No 3.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Okay, but a question kind of hung in the air.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Should the games continue?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well, yeah, I mean you would think like life goes
on, but at the same time we kindof fucked up life goes on.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
But at the same time we kind of fucked up avery
brundage, an 84 year old who wasretiring not quite but retiring
as ioc chair, the internationalolympic committee yep declared
quote.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
The games must go on yeah, because he's a dick and
they dick and they don't want tonot make their money.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
The stadium crowd cheered.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Of course they did, because they're like resilience.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
So one obvious factor was the desire to deny the
terrorists the satisfaction ofhalting the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, but it is kind of troubling.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
But that's not what the terrorists were going for.
They weren't going to stop theOlympics.
They were going to be like hey,look at us, we're going to fuck
these people up because of theconflict we've been having
forever.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Basically, so the Israeli government protested
that the game should besuspended, while Israeli mourned
its Olympic dead.
Yeah, many felt the tragedy wastoo immense for the games to
continue.
Yet with the Israeli governmentand the Olympic team, ioc
endorsement, they continued, ofcourse.
(40:56):
So once the fundamentaldecisions were made no prisoner
release in Israel, no, allowingthe terrorists to leave with
hostages force was the onlyremaining option.
Sure, the decision against aprisoner exchange was israel's,
while the final ambush was basedon west germany's belief that
the terrorists would kill thehostages elsewhere right so the
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terrorists had threatened toexecute them the following
morning if prisoners weren'treleased right.
While this was likely blackseptember's intent, there was
some doubt they had ignoredprevious deadlines and the
hostages were arguably morevaluable alive rather than dead
you would think so yeah, thetrue failure, however, lay in
(41:42):
the preventable lack of security.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well, I mean that's just such a fucking misstep of
whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
And, obviously, the botched execution of the rescue
plan.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Well, of course, but like the fact that they were so
understaffed or understaffed,whatever you want to call it for
security to spend only $2million for this Olympics and
you got all these differentcountries they all don't get
along clearly and excuse me andyou have just minimal, minimal
(42:13):
fucking security that wouldallow this to like.
This could have been clearlypreventable because, or at least
it would have went a waydifferent way different, yeah
because, hey, these people thatwe don't know are coming in,
let's get them.
Bullshit, whatever you want tosay, but wow hey, I've got that
(42:33):
number.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Olympic security less than two million dollars in 72
yeah is now over one billiondollars in 2021 isn't that crazy
.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
How much is two, two uh million dollars in today
money?
15 million so, even so, abillion to 15 million, I mean
that's holy shit delete, delete,delete, delete, delete.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I had to do the the three zero and the comma yeah,
okay okay, moving on.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Let's not talk about that okay, we're gonna hash it
out later so, a month after themunich massacre, another
palestinian terrorist grouphijacked lufthansa lufthansa
flight 615 demanding the releaseof the three surviving Black
September members.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Oh Jesus, west government, nope, west Germany
Complied, really, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Fucking bitches.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
In response, Israel launched Operation Wrath of God.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
That is a cool fucking name.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Authorizing to track down and eliminate those
responsible for the MunichMassacre, which they did.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Good, yes, because that's horseshit.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
So in Munich's Olympic Park there is an
official memorial site dedicatedto the victims.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
This site provides information about the events and
commemorates those who losttheir lives.
Sure now, as mentioned early on, yeah steven spielberg's 2005
film eunuch right does portraythese events okay it stars eric
banna banna banna daniel craigoh, that's right, he is in there
and jeff Jeffrey Rush.
Oh, I like him too.
(44:21):
Yeah, there is also a newlyreleased movie from 2024 called
September 5th, starring PeterSarsgaard.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yes, because it's funny, because you kept bringing
up the date.
Yes, I saw that just came outbecause I go to Sarah.
Hey, look it.
We should see this movie.
Why?
Because it's our son's birthday.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Well, that movie, September 5th, is about the
journalist Jim McKay, whotelevised for 16 hours straight.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Oh, it's a different perspective, then it is Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I think the majority of the film, like 95% of the
film, is taking place inside thecontrol booth the booth, yeah.
So I'm going to kind of giveyou um a brief recap of an
interview that Jim McKay didWhile on air.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, no just an interview years later.
Yeah, years later.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
He actually had like a three hour interview and this
was just a section of it.
Sure, um, and I'm'm gonna recapthat section, so I will also
link that video in my show notes.
Sure, um, so jim mckay was notthe primary host of the olympic
game coverage okay, he was overthere with his wife, yeah, yeah
chris shankle held that role fora nightly three-hour show
(45:40):
gotcha however, one morning hisday off, of course he received a
call where it was relayed tohim quote terrorists had invaded
the israeli team headquartersgym.
They've killed one man already.
They're threatened to kill oneevery hour.
We want you to stand by.
We'll be going on the air.
We want you to host the show.
End quote the show so he's onstandby.
(46:02):
He doesn't know what to do, sowhat does he do instead?
He does what he does everysingle morning before work, he
goes to the pool for laps.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Wow, okay I mean, he doesn't know what to do.
He doesn't know what to do inthe wings at this point yeah, so
then he does receive afollow-up call.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Quote jim, get on your horse and get out here.
We're going on the air in 45minutes he had a horse I think
it was just a figure speech.
Was it a thoroughbred, maybe?
A quarter horse so jim rushedto the studio.
He found that the team hadalready set up a single camera.
The only one that would havewould have 16 hours of
(46:39):
documented reels.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Isn't it wild that there's like photographic
whatever you want to callevidence of all this, because
they like let's film it.
Yeah, that's just yeah.
To think about that, it's justfucking weird um.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
So during the broadcast he became acutely
aware of david berger.
He was an american, israeliweightlifter.
Okay, from shaker heights, ohio.
Okay, he said, quote I thoughtI'm going to be the guy to tell
that family in shaker heights,ohio whether their son and
brother is alive or dead.
End quote.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Ultimately, he did have to deliver that news oh,
really, he was one of the onesthat Yep Okay.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
So Jim emphasized that his background in newspaper
reporting prepared him for thefactual aspects of this
particular broadcast, because hewas in sports, sure.
But he started off just asevery other journalist reporting
the facts.
So he says quote reporting isreporting.
Reporting the facts.
So he says quote reporting isreporting.
(47:44):
It's basically the same thingtelling the facts of what have
happened here and is happeninghere and also giving something
of the flavor of what it feelslike to be here at this point.
Sure, the idea of telling thesepeople that all these men were
dead.
Of course I did it.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
It was one of the most terrible moments of my life
and I can't imagine it was itwasn't because could you imagine
being there like, yep, morepeople are dead.
Yeah, more people are dead.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
It's like fuck that man, that sucks the broadcast
involved live reporting frompeter jennings.
Oh hey, yeah, he was in theolympic village at this time
okay jennings was also availableto provide crucial information
via somewhere like complexcommunication setup okay yeah,
um, a producer also infiltratedthe village equipped with a 16
(48:29):
millimeter camera.
Jeez, quote.
I knew this one building wasexactly facing the building
where they were held.
The producer stated, describinghim coming like essentially
face to face with a terrorist.
Sure, so the day was filledwith tension, evolving deadlines
and jim says, quote when I wasa kid, my father always told me
(48:51):
that our greatest hopes and ourworst fears were seldom realized
.
Okay, tonight, our worst feelfears have been realized sure,
yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
You're seeing shit unfold real time and not a great
outcome.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
So Jim described the chaotic aftermath, including the
false report that the hostagerescue was successful.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
So, upon returning to his hotel room, like they
wrapped up, upon returning tohis hotel room, like they
wrapped up upon returning to hishotel room, his wife, who was
sleeping at the time he woke upand she was like I'm just so
glad that everybody made it outsafe and he goes no they're all
dead yeah.
He got two hours of sleep thatnight.
Then he had to prepare for thememorial service.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
He found a note from Walter Cronkite oh good old
walter and it said, quote jim,you were a credit to your
network, to your medium and toyourself.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
End quote I mean, that's pretty good coming from
walter conk.
Right, he was looked at as avery uh, I don't know what the
word I'm looking for prestigiousyeah public figure yeah because
he was on the news for ever, ifI remember right.
Yeah, so walter cronkite sothat was the.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
So the september 5th movie.
September 5 is really what itsays, but um, it was.
It's based on jim mckay'sbroadcasting and then munich is
based on the actual I just sawthat come out.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Like I said, I didn't look into it, I just saw the
title or something, whatever itwas.
I had no idea that those werelinked together.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
So that's wild, but that is the tragic story of the
1972 Israeli Olympic massacreWay to bring down the mood.
Sorry about the somberness, butthis is a really interesting
story.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
It is.
Yeah, it's really sad thatobviously again played out like
it did.
Yeah, it's sad that they and Iunderstand why they picked the
platform they did it on Is thatthe right word?
I'm looking at Not reallyplatform, Because more eyes were
on it.
So I understand that.
Yeah, man, what a, what a dickmove.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Well, let's, let's cheers with your nearly empty
gin and tonic.
Nearly Cheers.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Ah, water Welp, I suppose.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
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If you have old trees , be careful.
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Yeah, tell us what happened.
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Well um.
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You have no tree anymore.
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I'm sure we have some , just not this particular one
that was right in front of ourhouse that luckily fell away
from the house instead oftowards the house.
However, I currently have a carthat I haven't been using but
kind of wanted to sell.
Well, let's just say we can'tsell it anymore.
Yeah, because a tree fell onthat and blew out the back
window, fucked up the frontwindshield, dented the fuck out
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of the side.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, so yeah now it's scrap metal pretty much so
I'm gonna have to call a placeto either donate and or scrap it
and see if I can literally getanything out of it yeah which
will probably be not much and ifanyone has any tips on how to
pick up shards of glass in agravel driveway send it our way,
because we're gonna need toknow, because I'm gonna have to
(01:30):
try and clear all that out anduh yeah one of the reddit posts
said duct tape and you suggestedputting duct tape around your
shoes and just clumping around.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You know how quickly that would get gummed up with
like the dust.
Yes, the gravel driveway I meanit?
Wouldn't, it wouldn't work atall.
So whoever suggested that?
Fuck off seriously duct tapeokay.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So, um, this is a little bit more of a somber
episode, so I don't want to likedo too much embellishment here
this morning.
Um, but briefly, we do haveourselves our classic gin and
tonics we do.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yes, and I like how you said morning, so now people
think we drink all day what Isay you said this morning this
morning.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's not morning.
It's six o'clock in theafternoon, in the evening.
Wow, I just woke up from a nap,so maybe I did think it was
morning.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I don't know I just didn't want people thinking
we're not.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
We woke up, I woke up from a nap, so maybe I did
think it was morning.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't know.
I just didn't want peoplethinking that we woke up.
I woke up this morning and Igrabbed myself a beer.
That's such a good line from asong.
By the way, name that artistGarth Brooks.
The Doors, garth Brooks.
I don't know, maybe it wasChris Gaines.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But so it is not the morning, it is the evening.
It's not the morning, it is theevening.
And yeah, so we have ourclassic gin and tonics Cheers.
Yes, cheers to you.
It's so delicious, one of myfavorite beverages.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's really so basic.
A lot of people don't like ginand tonics.
Yeah, I get it, but I actuallyrather enjoy them.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Plus there's another good line from a different band
in a song called um from oasis.
Now I'm just drawing a blank onthe line.
It's like give me gin and tonic.
Literally the line he said I'mfeeling supersonic give me gin
and tonic okay you could have itall, but how much do you want
it?
You fall okay all right, I'msorry.
I'm not trying to be happybecause I know you're about to
kill that mood.
I'm about to kill it.
I was bringing it down.
Think about the trees.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, so I actually do not have a question for you
today.
I'm just going to kind of gointo it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Sure, that's, fine.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So we're going to talk about the 1972 Munich
Olympics.
Oh yeah, okay, do you know it?
You weren't born yet, but I'msure you've heard.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No, I've heard of it.
There's a movie with, I think,Christian Bale in it.
Isn't it just called Munich?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Eric Bana, eric Bana, that's it Not.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Christian Bale.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm sorry, but yes that is based off of this story.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Okay.
So just a week into the 1972Munich Olympics, on the morning
of September 5th, a group ofPalestinian militants known as
Black September took 11 Israeliathletes and staff hostage.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
What did they do?
The?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
other 11 months of the year, not a time for jokes.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Jeez, are you sure?
I mean, they got a tight window.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
30 days is all you get a year, so for 20 hours.
Okay, how many people?
I'm sorry, how many people?
11 um Israeli athletes so like.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Olympians yeah, yeah, yeah and their staff wow so a
decent amount of people yes um.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So for 20 hours this drama actually unfolded live on
television.
That's wild, yeah.
So there was also a botchedpolice rescue, which amplified
the situation.
Sure, and because it wasbroadcast live, the suspense
(05:02):
pretty much grouped.
Everybody 're talking aboutmillions, if not a billion,
people watching right um, and itwas stirring memories of past
emotional events, like theassassination of jfk in dallas
in 63 so it was only nine years,yeah, so yeah, and this time
these killings, because theythere are killings.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It happened in Munich , which is kind of the
birthplace of Nazism, and thesevictims were Jewish.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Right.
So they thought it was kind oftied to that, or something.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
We're going to go into the Israeli-Palestinian
conflict a little bit tounderstand why Black September
targeted these athletes.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So it is actually one of the world's longest disputes
.
The conflict's origin tracedback to the late 19th and early
20th centuries with the rise ofZionism, which is a movement for
Jewish homeland, andPalestinian nationalism.
(06:12):
So both groups laid claim tothe same territory under Ottoman
and later British rule, so theywere essentially fighting for
this land.
So in 1948, there was anArab-Israeli war, and the
establishment of Israel in 1948triggered a war that resulted in
the displacement of hundreds ofthousands of Palestinians,
(06:35):
creating a massive refugeecrisis.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay.
And then after that, in 1967,there was the Six-Day War.
Six-day War Israelis' victoryin this war resulted in its
occupation of the West Bank,gaza Strip, east Jerusalem and
other territories, furtherexacerbating this conflict and
(07:00):
creating a whole new wave ofPalestinian refugees Sure, okay,
and creating like a whole newwave of Palestinian refugees
Sure, okay.
Then we have the PalestineLiberation Organization, which
is called the PLO and that wasformed in 1964.
And it became the umbrellaorganization that represented
the Palestine people.
Okay, and it sought to establisha Palestinian state and
(07:22):
employed various tactics,including armed struggles
essentially right so blackseptember in jordan between 1970
and 1971, during two weeks ofduring two weeks of september,
like continuous two weeks.
Sure, king hussein of j,fearing the growing power of the
(07:45):
PLO within his country,launched a military crackdown,
oh dear, that resulted in thedeaths of thousands of
Palestinians and the expulsionof the PLO from Jordan.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So this event was called Black September.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
And it was a major blow for the Palestinians.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So did they just take their name from it, or is that
just what they did, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So a militant group called themselves Black
September after the Jordancrackdown, and it was the
largest faction of, like the PLO, that organization Sure, and
its primary aim was to avengethe events in Jordan, okay, and
to draw international attentionto the Palestinian cause, gotcha
, okay.
So Black September representeda more radical element within
(08:33):
the Palestinian movement,willing to carry out some pretty
high profile attacks.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Sure, I'm sure they wanted to.
Yeah, because if they're tryingto bring attention to them, yes
, you don't want to do somerandom, stupid little whatever.
Yes, you want to bring as muchfocus on it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, so yeah so their mission was essentially
retaliation and to release.
Have 200 palestinian prisonersreleased from israeli jails okay
and they came into action atthe 1972 Olympics.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean it's really unfortunate they had to do it
then.
I understand why they did itthen, though because, again,
they're looking for the mostamount of visual.
Spectators yeah spectators tosee what they're trying to
accomplish, and obviously theOlympics are very important to
the world and so on, andwhatever society, yeah so yeah,
(09:27):
I mean, I guess it's a goodplace to do it, but that kind of
sucks yeah so the 72 munichgames marked germany's first
olympics since the 1936 berlingames, which had been heavily
criticized because, it was usedas a Nazi platform essentially.
Yeah, I mean four years, well,two years before, either way.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And then.
So Germany is still likeseparated, segregated at this
time.
West Germany and East Germany,so they weren't fully united yet
until 1989, I think it wasunder, was it Reagan?
Yeah, was it Reagan?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, tear down that wall, yeah mr
gorbachev yeah, um, so they.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
There was also a 1968 mexico city olympics.
Just before those games, apeaceful student protest turned
deadly, with hundreds killed bygovernment forces.
That may be a future episode,so I'm not going to go into that
right now.
Fair enough, but so this waskind of germany's chance to like
hey, we're gonna do it, it'sgonna be great, we're all happy,
(10:34):
we're gonna put our past in thepast yeah, exactly.
So in contrast to that, yeah,munich's organizers opted for a
low-profile security approach.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
To try and make it seem more friendly.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Oh jeez.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yes, so they spent less than $2 million and they
used a bunch of unarmedpersonnel, essentially.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That seems like a terrible fucking idea.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
It was a crucial misstep.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, I mean clearly we wouldn't probably Personnel.
Essentially, that seems like aterrible fucking idea.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It was a crucial misstep, yeah, I mean clearly we
wouldn't probably I mean,there's a good chance we
wouldn't be talking about thisif they didn't go all cheapo on
the security.
I read somewhere that it wasless than $2 million then,
whereas 2001 was something or2004 was something, was it four
2004?
Was that the last Olympics,where 2002, 22, 22, 2022 that's
(11:32):
what I'm talking about less thantwo million at the 74 olympics
versus the 2022 olympics, and Idon't remember the number, but
it was massively different well,I mean, yeah, it's 50 years,
but yeah still, yeah, that'swild so, according to a
declassified israeli report.
Okay, the israeli delegation hadconcerns about the lack of
(11:53):
security, especially in theirground floor accommodations oh
so easy pickings yes wow, theynoticed the lack of security
personnel but hoped thateverybody was undercover that's
wild yeah, no, we weren't evendoing that before the games.
(12:15):
Police psychologist gregorsieber gregor was tasked with
predicting potential securitythreats.
Predicting Was he like apsychic.
He was a psychologist, yeah,but they have that now.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I know, like I can predict no, something's going to
happen.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
No, they've got like crisis organizers and stuff like
that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, there's a lot of people that organize crisis.
You know what I mean Crises.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
So he outlined 26 different scenarios, including
explosions and plane crashes,like pretty much this could
happen and this could happen,sure, and scenario 21 was eerily
accurate.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Oh dear.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Armed Palestinians breaching the Olympic Village,
taking Israeli hostages,demanding prisoner releases and
then escaping to an Arab capital.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Wow, and that's ultimately the gist of it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That was scenario number 21, yes, and German
organizers were like no, let'stone this down, sieber.
Like let's tone this down.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
We don't want to raise any alarms here.
So they argued that suchextreme measures could only be
prevented by canceling the gamesaltogether and there's no way
they were going to do thatbecause of all the money
involved, yes and such.
And then germany would lookweak if they they canceled it or
whatever it might be so they'retrying to save face yeah, and
they're, they pretty much messedup.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, so the 20th Olympiad began on August 26,
1972.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
With the West German organizers aiming for cheerful
games.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, who doesn't want a good cheerful game?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
American swimmer Mark Spitz was making history.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I know that name, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
He won seven gold medals.
A record stood until michaelphelps in 2008 I was gonna say
that and he won eight andmichael phelps won eight oh, I
thought he won nine.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It was only eight that he won and that one that's
the um information, informationI have that's fine, because I
know he I mean he's got aboatload, because maybe it was
another game that he won moreyeah, I think he broke his own
record or something.
Maybe I could be wrong yeahit's, I thought, one of them.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
He also won nine, but either way, I mean that's a lot
of fucking medals so over 120countries were in these games
participating and, for the firsttime, the olympics were
broadcast globally via satellite, reaching a billion viewers.
Wow, for more than a week, thegames proceeded without incident
(14:47):
, until the early hours ofseptember 5th yes, remember,
remember the 5th of september at4 30 am munich time yeah eight
black september terroristsdisguised as athletes scaled the
unguarded fence of the OlympicVillage.
Oh Lord.
(15:07):
They were heavily armed withrifles, pistols and grenades and
grenades, Jesus.
While some Black Septembermembers were already in Germany,
Israeli intelligence believedthe attack was planned and
trained in Syria.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Okay, the attack was planned and trained in Syria.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Israel also accused Syria of helping the FAYDAIN,
which is Arab guerrillas, obtainGerman work permits for
reconnaissance.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh, so they could kind of scope it out.
Yes, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So, in the lead up to the games, members of the Black
September arrived in Munich,separately surveying the Olympic
Village and even obtaining jobsamongst the 30,000 workers.
Yeah, athletes from Uruguay,whose quarters were next to the
Israelis, recalled seeing all ofthese militants essentially as
(16:01):
workers, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So at 4.20 am, as the alembic village slept, the
terrorists moved in sure it's agood time to do it, because they
know they're gonna a be thereand be.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The people are sleeping so yeah less to get in
the way so two telephone linemensaw a group in track suits aka
athletic gear scaling the fence.
They didn't think anything ofit, because it was actually a
pretty common sight whenathletes were running late they
would scale these fences to getwhere they needed to go.
So, they just let it go yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Wow, that's just wild .
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Because maybe they should stop scaling the fences.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Once out of view of these men, the group revealed
the weapons and headed towardsthe Israeli quarters.
Sure, so the Israelis.
They shared five apartments inlike a three-story building.
Okay, and early that morningthe intruders number unknown, um
, well, they said eight, butthere's a little bit of conflict
(17:07):
.
but they targeted apartmentnumber one okay so wrestling
coach mosh weinberg, 32 yearsold, half asleep, answered a
knock on the door, a voice askedin german is this the israeli
team?
Seeing that the men were armed,weinberg tried to slam the door
(17:28):
shut, yelling for his roommatesto escape.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
He was immediately hit by submachine gunfire oh wow
, so they went to town rightaway.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, that's wild the same scene repeated in the
second apartment.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Okay, wrestler, so did these.
Does gunfire not wake otherpeople up?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You know, I actually didn't read anything about
anyone else in the building.
Because I feel like theymight've had their own like.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Little, little house.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Complex.
Yeah, a three story complexwith all these little apartments
in it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
But even if, okay, let's say that's the case, how
did the other rooms not getwoken up by this gunfire?
They just took out this.
What was it?
German wrestler coach guy Isthat?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
what you said, moshe Weinberg.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, he was the the wrestling coach.
Yeah, so I mean, they just shothim and no one heard that.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I didn't read anything about others being.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
That's wild, yeah, anyway, sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Okay, so wrestler Yosef Romano, despite being on
crutches from the competitioninjury, fought back attempting
to disarm a terrorist with aknife.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And he was fatally wounded.
Of course, this is chilly.
To demonstrate their brutality,the terrorists castrated Romano
.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Why.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And left his mutilated body as a warning.
Oh good.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Lord.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, so this is pretty dark, yeah, as a warning.
Oh good lord, yeah, so this ispretty dark, yeah, in apartment
number three, as the terroristsgathered more hostages and
forced them towards apartmentone.
Like they're like, let's justall go to apartment one to kind
of keep tabs on everyone.
Sure, wrestler gad sobari brokefree okay he dashed down a
flight of stairs towards anunderground parking garage, with
(19:19):
bullets whizzing past him.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh, good Lord.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Meanwhile back in apartment supposedly he escaped.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Really.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yes.
Meanwhile, back in apartment,one wrestling referee, yosef
Gutfrund Okay, I'm so sorryabout the pronunciations, it's
all right, I mean you're not.
He was a large man.
He held the door shut againstfive attackers and, shouting in
Hebrew, he said boys, get out,right.
(19:48):
But it was too late.
The door was forced open andthe terrorists stormed in.
Eighteen Israelis managed toescape the chaos.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But nine were taken hostage.
Wow, they were bound hand andfoot, grouped in threes and
forced onto a bed.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
The terrorists then dragged Moshe Weinberg's body
onto the steps in front of theIsraeli compound as a message to
the German police and the world.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Jesus Christ, so you said that 4.20 in the morning.
They started doing this as amessage to the German police and
the world, Jesus Christ.
So you said that 4.20 in themorning they started doing this,
mm-hmm.
Where are we at right now?
Do you have a time frame?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yes, so now we're about 6 am.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Okay, so it's only been going on for less than two
hours.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I would imagine people are starting to wake up
because it's the Olympics,things got to get done and so on
, right.
So when do people startrealizing some shit's going down
?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Closer to nine o'clock, I think.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Holy shit, not till nine.
Yeah, late start, I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, the people in the Olympic Village don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
The world, I think is a different story.
But I'm not sure on the timingof that, but 6 am Munich, police
, alerted by the escapedIsraelis, had arrived at the
Olympic Village.
A crisis center was set up inthe village administration
building, which was about 200meters away.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Police Chief, manfred Schreiber, quickly assembled
600 officers and armored cars tocordon off the area.
Jesus Christ, an ambulanceretrieved Moshe Weinberg's body
at this point.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And he was dead though.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
So he was the first man killed.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, he was the castrated one or whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No, that was another wrestler.
That's right, this was thewrestling coach.
Yeah, he was the one shot yes,for initially uh, holding the
door closed.
That's okay, and there's a lotof people in here yeah, and I'm
not gonna remember all the names.
No shortly after police chiefschreiber boldly approached the
apartment, he was met by lutifefif okay, which is um a group,
(22:00):
the group's leader, the um blackseptember leader, who was
wearing a white tennis hat,sunglasses and his face was
blackened, so he probably hadlike a hood on or something Sure
.
And Schreiber consideredgrabbing Afif but was deterred
when Afif revealed a handgrenade.
Oh yeah, thumb on the pin,asking do you want to take me?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
like taunting him yeah, I mean they clearly went
in there and they wanted tocause some mischief obviously
yeah that's just being a reallytame word, but clearly they were
ready to go to they were ifthey needed to, yeah, so at 9 am
, the terrorist threw a messageout a window demanding the
release of 234 Arab prisonersheld in Israeli jails.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Wow, the list also included German leftist
terrorists and a Japaneseterrorist involved in the Lod
Airport Massacre.
In the Lod Airport Massacre Nowsame year, 1972,.
Lod Airport Massacre was aterrorist attack by three
Japanese Red Army membersrecruited by the Popular Front
(23:13):
for the Liberation of PalestineExternal Operations.
They condensed it into theacronym PFLPEo that's still a
lot yeah so they opened fire atload airport, killing 26 and
injuring 80.
Good lord and one attacker wascaptured, the others killed,
(23:33):
causing a bunch of outrage.
So at this time, ironically 400yards away, the Olympic Games
were going on.
Isn't that crazy to think thatthey kept going with it 2,000
fans were cheering at avolleyball game between West
Germany and Japan, completelyunawares.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, it's just strange to think about that
these people could be thatunaware of what's going on 400
yards away.
And yeah, let's watch somevolleyball, cheer.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, they had no idea.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
All these people are getting killed and held hostage.
That's just wild.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
So the Palestinians demanded that they and their
prisoners be flown out of WestGermany to the Arab nation, to
any Arab nation.
They're like we don't care,Just get us over there.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Just get us out of here.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, they actually did specify, not Lebanon or
Jordan.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Oh, so they did not want to go to those two, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And they wanted three airplanes departing at
different intervals and theauthorities had three hours
until noon at this point tocomply or the hostages would be
executed, two every 30 minutes.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
What Okay?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
A hotline was established between Munich and
Jerusalem.
Israeli Prime Minister GoldaMeir and her advisors quickly
decided no negotiations withterrorists, no prisoner releases
, full responsibility for rescueactions given to the Germans
and no objection to safe passagefor the terrorists if the
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hospitals hostages wereguaranteed release okay so we do
not negotiate with terrorisms,terrorisms terrorists.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Um yeah, I mean that's pretty much a stance for
a lot of countries they don'tnegotiate with terrorists
because then it just gives them.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It gives more people reason just to do terrorist acts
.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So West German Interior Minister Hans-Dietrich
Genscher.
Okay was fairly limited in hisoptions.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Well, yeah his hands are kind of tied.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
He personally bargained with the terrorists,
offering unlimited money for thehostages release, which was
rejected, and then he offeredhimself and other German
officials, hopefully whatthey're knowing as hostages.
But was also rejected.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Did they reject him because they wanted to make a
statement with these Israelipeople?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm assuming it's the less movement of these hostages
, the better.
Sure, because if there's anykind of exchange, things can go
down right.
Oh yeah, so the minister didstall for time, but he falsely
promoted sorry, he falselypromised to persuade israeli to
(26:42):
release these prisoners, like hetold him.
okay, we're gonna do it yeah inreality, the germans believed
the hostages fate were alreadysealed.
So he's probably like thisisn't even gonna work, but I'm
gonna lie to him anyway, sure?
So gensher boldly demanded tosee these hostages.
He was taken to a bedroom andhe saw the nine men bound, and
(27:09):
one said that they were doingokay.
At Gensher's pleading, thePalestinians pushed back the
execution deadline to 5pminstead of noon, ultimately
changing it A matter of fourdifferent times.
Sure, but it ended up being 5pm, gotcha.
So West German authoritiesdeployed 15 volunteer police
sharpshooters wearing armoredvests under athletic uniforms.
(27:33):
Okay, they were tracked by zoomlens television cameras from
the Olympic TV tower.
That's wild, broadcasting liveto the world and to the
terrorists themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Why would they broadcast that to the world?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I just want your opinion Because I mean, why
would you want to show that toeverybody?
Because you know shit could gosouth real quick with what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I know.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And why would you want to show people that on TV?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I know.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I trying to hide it, that's not what I'm saying.
Yeah, but do you really?
I wouldn't want to watch someperson live get killed?
I've actually seen that, haveyou?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
yeah, it was when I was working at audible in um the
mid 2000s, like 2015, somethinglike that.
And oh, shep from fox news,shep something that was.
That was the anchorman shepsomething.
But fox news was always on andthere was like a developing
(28:40):
story of of a car chase and theguy got out and they can see the
live broadcast a couple secondsbefore the rest of the world
does okay so they can see, likewhat's coming, that they can
like shut off the live feed orwhatever if needed yeah they
didn't get to it in time ohand um, the driver of the car
(29:03):
that was um doing the the highchase.
He got out and he essentiallyshot himself on live TV.
That's wild.
And Shep was like right beforeit happened he said shut it off,
shut it off, shut it off.
Like it wasn't enough time,like he saw this only seconds
before and he kept saying shutit off, shut it off, shut it off
.
And then it happened.
And then it went to commercial.
(29:24):
He came back on and was waslike I'm so sorry.
You all saw that that wasn'tsupposed to happen.
This is how we set that up,like we got.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
We have seconds to see this right before it's aired
and yep, have you ever uh heardof the song?
Hey man, nice shot by the bandfilter no it came out and I
believe 95, I want to say 94, Ithink it was 95.
I saw them at Summerfest in1995.
Um, that song and I don'tremember the gentleman's name,
(29:53):
but basically the the whole,just the basis of that song is
uh was it a Congressman orsomething like that.
Uh was giving a speech on TVand he shot himself.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, that's just fucking wild.
It is wild, yeah, that someonewould go to that length to do
that, for I don't know.
I mean whatever.
Anyways, it's a really goodsong.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
So American television producer, excuse me
announcer, he was an announcer.
He was an announcer for ABC.
Announcer for abc sports.
Okay, okay his name is jimmckay.
He provided a live 16 hourplay-by-play coverage of the
crisis wow so, initially, livetelevision coverage was switched
(30:39):
off, hoping to give thesharpshooters an advantage.
As they like, moved intoposition, sure, because the
terrorists were also watching.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
But they couldn't get clear enough targets.
If the sharpshooters took outone captor, the others inside
would likely retaliate againstthe hostages.
And then, at this time, theyjust showed the world what was
happening.
Yeah, and crowds were drawn bythis live report, gathered
around this area.
German olympic olympic hostessboldly approached the apartment,
(31:13):
spotted a terrorist peeking out.
Jesus urged him in english tosurrender, promising no harm.
He quickly refused.
Well, of course.
And then a large group of ofyoung Jewish individuals broke
through police lines singingHatkeva, which is the Israeli
(31:33):
national anthem.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Followed by we Shall Overcome, which is another song
Amidst all these like sirens andhovering helicopters and like I
I guess it was just for thehostages like they were like,
hey, we're here, we're we werethinking about you yeah I mean
thoughts and prayers oh god,that is such a good uh, anthony
(32:00):
jeselnik, uh special, by the wayso west german authorities had
already made a crucial decisionthey would not allow the
terrorists to fly away with thehostages.
Yeah, the chancellor deemed itunacceptable for an honorable
nation emphasizing theirresponsibility for the israeli
safety.
Okay, okay, realizing that theycouldn't stall the increasingly
(32:23):
agitated terrorists much longer, both sides needed a new plan.
Sure, the terrorists andhostages would be transported to
Munich's airport and flown outon a Lufthansa.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Can you try it again?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Lufthansa.
I think it's.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Lufthansa.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, what is that?
Is that an airport?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
It's an airline.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Airline, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That word.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Lufthasana Lufthansa.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Lufthansa.
I've made you watch Goodfellasonce before, right.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
One of the whole big things is the Lufthansa.
Now you're making me fuckingsay it wrong, sorry, but yeah,
it's an airline, if I'm notmistaken.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Okay, like a Delta or a Southwest.
Yeah, okay, yeah, lufthansa.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
There it is.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Flight number 727.
Oh, good number, with Cairo astheir destination.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Going to go see some pyramids.
Their new deadline was 7 pm.
Moved it back again.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay, so the 727 had flown to a west german air base
about 60 miles from munich.
Yeah, there, no crew waswilling to fly this plane well,
can you blame?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
them, they didn't want to be a part of this that
didn't matter.
The germans never intended themto leave anyway no, they were
just basically doing it for show, right?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
so plans were underway to just deploy
sharpshooters to the air base,hoping a sniper could eliminate
the leader, sure prompting theothers to surrender yeah, I
guess.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I mean, I see the logic, but probably poor, poor.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yes, so Black September also misled everyone
about their destination.
Upon reaching the airfield,they demanded an eight-person
crew revealing their finaldestination after takeoff.
So we don't actually know wherethey were going to go.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
We don't know where they actually wanted to go.
Yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
At 10 pm.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah go.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
We don't know where they actually wanted.
Yeah, gotcha at 10 pm.
Yeah, nearly 18 hours after theassault began, the eight
terrorists, with theirblindfolded hostages tied
together, were led out of thebuilding and onto a german army
bus okay they were driventhrough a tunnel to a makeshift
helicopter pad 275 meters away.
All right, they boarded twohelicopters for a 25-minute
flight to the airport Gotcha,and then was preceded by a third
(34:51):
helicopter carrying Germanofficials and Israeli
intelligence.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
And this was they were taking them to the Munich
airport.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It was a German base airport but yes, essentially.
Gotcha At the airport, 500soldiers were deployed.
Oh, jesus only fivesharpshooters were positioned to
take out eight terrorists.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
They couldn't find three more I guess not that
sucks.
I mean, I feel like that's.
I understand they're kind oftrying to figure this out on the
fly, but damn yeah okay.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
When the helicopters landed, two terrorists checked
the 727.
Okay, two more then ordered thehelicopter crews out, violating
their promise not to useGermans as hostages.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Jesus.
The five sharpshooters three inthe control tower and two on
the field were instructed tofire when the terrace presented
the most targets.
The terrace never exposed morethan four at once, adding to the
problem right the local policesharpshooters declined infrared
(35:57):
scopes offered by the army,relying on regular scopes in a
flood lit shadow field field.
Shadow filled field there it iswhy?
Why, I don't know fuckingidiots.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Good lord, I mean you .
So because you said this is at10 o'clock.
Yes, right under the cloak ofnight it's nighttime, the only
way you're gonna have lights isobviously artificial lights,
causing a lot more shadows a lotof shadows and oh wow, pretty
dumb to deny wanting, thoughlike no, we're good, we got this
(36:35):
, yeah, sharpshooters not sosharp, hey, oh.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So moments later a sniper fired, oh shit followed
by the other, so chaotic gunfireerupted.
Two terrorists guarding thehelicopter crews were hit and a
pilot was wounded, oh dear.
A third terrorist on the tarmacwas killed okay the leader, in
his tennis hat and blackenedface, dove under a helicopter
(37:03):
and returned fire, oh dear.
And he disabled the controltower's lights and radio.
Oh wow, a Munich policesergeant taking cover by the
control tower was killed.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Oh geez.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Meanwhile, the Israeli hostages remained in the
helicopter surrounded by thisgunfire.
Sure, a terrorist threw a handgrenade into one of the
helicopters, killing five of thehostages inside.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Good Lord.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
The remaining hostages in the second
helicopter were machine gunnedto death.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Oh, so all the hostages were killed.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, wow.
And surprisingly, the battle ofthis gunfire continued for
another hour I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I mean, they probably didn't know that those people
are dead.
Yeah, it's not like they'rejust gonna like, oh well, lost
her shot, let's go home, folks.
I mean, obviously it's not likethat, so, oh, that's terrible
so five terrorists, includingthe leader, were killed and
three surrendered.
Well, I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Get this False.
False rumors spread that allthe terrorists were captured and
all the hostages were alive.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Who would spread that fucking rumor?
Because that's a dick move todo.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And this was broadcast live, so like the
constant narration of what'shappening, right?
So it prompted prematurecelebrations in israel, sure,
and four hours later, germanauthorities admitted that the
news wasn't was a mistake, right?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I'm not sure how it became a mistake, but that's
wild that people would allowthat to get out.
But they.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
They had captured three terrorists the ones who
surrendered two of whom werewounded, but their identities
were unknown.
Their pictures were broadcastto identify them and trace their
movements okay black september,demanded their release,
threatening further attacks ofcourse they did the morning
after the murders, 80 000 peopleattended a memorial service in
(39:04):
the Olympic Stadium.
Wow, their surviving Israeliteam, heavily guarded, sat with
the other athletes.
Wow, the stadium was draped inblack and, for the first time in
Olympic history, the flags ofall 122 nations and the Olympic
flag flew at half-mast.
That's crazy and the Olympicflag flew at half-mast.
(39:26):
That's crazy.
Munich's Philharmonic Orchestraplayed the somber funeral march
from Beethoven's Symphony.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
No 3.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Okay, but a question kind of hung in the air.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Should the games continue?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well, yeah, I mean you would think like life goes
on, but at the same time we kindof fucked up life goes on.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
But at the same time we kind of fucked up avery
brundage, an 84 year old who wasretiring not quite but retiring
as ioc chair, the internationalolympic committee yep declared
quote.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
The games must go on yeah, because he's a dick and
they dick and they don't want tonot make their money.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
The stadium crowd cheered.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Of course they did, because they're like resilience.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
So one obvious factor was the desire to deny the
terrorists the satisfaction ofhalting the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, but it is kind of troubling.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
But that's not what the terrorists were going for.
They weren't going to stop theOlympics.
They were going to be like hey,look at us, we're going to fuck
these people up because of theconflict we've been having
forever.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Basically, so the Israeli government protested
that the game should besuspended, while Israeli mourned
its Olympic dead.
Yeah, many felt the tragedy wastoo immense for the games to
continue.
Yet with the Israeli governmentand the Olympic team, ioc
endorsement, they continued, ofcourse.
(40:56):
So once the fundamentaldecisions were made no prisoner
release in Israel, no, allowingthe terrorists to leave with
hostages force was the onlyremaining option.
Sure, the decision against aprisoner exchange was israel's,
while the final ambush was basedon west germany's belief that
the terrorists would kill thehostages elsewhere right so the
(41:20):
terrorists had threatened toexecute them the following
morning if prisoners weren'treleased right.
While this was likely blackseptember's intent, there was
some doubt they had ignoredprevious deadlines and the
hostages were arguably morevaluable alive rather than dead
you would think so yeah, thetrue failure, however, lay in
(41:42):
the preventable lack of security.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well, I mean that's just such a fucking misstep of
whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
And, obviously, the botched execution of the rescue
plan.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Well, of course, but like the fact that they were so
understaffed or understaffed,whatever you want to call it for
security to spend only $2million for this Olympics and
you got all these differentcountries they all don't get
along clearly and excuse me andyou have just minimal, minimal
(42:13):
fucking security that wouldallow this to like.
This could have been clearlypreventable because, or at least
it would have went a waydifferent way different, yeah
because, hey, these people thatwe don't know are coming in,
let's get them.
Bullshit, whatever you want tosay, but wow hey, I've got that
(42:33):
number.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Olympic security less than two million dollars in 72
yeah is now over one billiondollars in 2021 isn't that crazy
.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
How much is two, two uh million dollars in today
money?
15 million so, even so, abillion to 15 million, I mean
that's holy shit delete, delete,delete, delete, delete.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I had to do the the three zero and the comma yeah,
okay okay, moving on.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Let's not talk about that okay, we're gonna hash it
out later so, a month after themunich massacre, another
palestinian terrorist grouphijacked lufthansa lufthansa
flight 615 demanding the releaseof the three surviving Black
September members.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Oh Jesus, west government, nope, west Germany
Complied, really, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Fucking bitches.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
In response, Israel launched Operation Wrath of God.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
That is a cool fucking name.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Authorizing to track down and eliminate those
responsible for the MunichMassacre, which they did.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Good, yes, because that's horseshit.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
So in Munich's Olympic Park there is an
official memorial site dedicatedto the victims.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
This site provides information about the events and
commemorates those who losttheir lives.
Sure now, as mentioned early on, yeah steven spielberg's 2005
film eunuch right does portraythese events okay it stars eric
banna banna banna daniel craigoh, that's right, he is in there
and jeff Jeffrey Rush.
Oh, I like him too.
(44:21):
Yeah, there is also a newlyreleased movie from 2024 called
September 5th, starring PeterSarsgaard.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yes, because it's funny, because you kept bringing
up the date.
Yes, I saw that just came outbecause I go to Sarah.
Hey, look it.
We should see this movie.
Why?
Because it's our son's birthday.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Well, that movie, September 5th, is about the
journalist Jim McKay, whotelevised for 16 hours straight.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Oh, it's a different perspective, then it is Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I think the majority of the film, like 95% of the
film, is taking place inside thecontrol booth the booth, yeah.
So I'm going to kind of giveyou um a brief recap of an
interview that Jim McKay didWhile on air.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, no just an interview years later.
Yeah, years later.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
He actually had like a three hour interview and this
was just a section of it.
Sure, um, and I'm'm gonna recapthat section, so I will also
link that video in my show notes.
Sure, um, so jim mckay was notthe primary host of the olympic
game coverage okay, he was overthere with his wife, yeah, yeah
chris shankle held that role fora nightly three-hour show
(45:40):
gotcha however, one morning hisday off, of course he received a
call where it was relayed tohim quote terrorists had invaded
the israeli team headquartersgym.
They've killed one man already.
They're threatened to kill oneevery hour.
We want you to stand by.
We'll be going on the air.
We want you to host the show.
End quote the show so he's onstandby.
(46:02):
He doesn't know what to do, sowhat does he do instead?
He does what he does everysingle morning before work, he
goes to the pool for laps.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Wow, okay I mean, he doesn't know what to do.
He doesn't know what to do inthe wings at this point yeah, so
then he does receive afollow-up call.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Quote jim, get on your horse and get out here.
We're going on the air in 45minutes he had a horse I think
it was just a figure speech.
Was it a thoroughbred, maybe?
A quarter horse so jim rushedto the studio.
He found that the team hadalready set up a single camera.
The only one that would havewould have 16 hours of
(46:39):
documented reels.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Isn't it wild that there's like photographic
whatever you want to callevidence of all this, because
they like let's film it.
Yeah, that's just yeah.
To think about that, it's justfucking weird um.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
So during the broadcast he became acutely
aware of david berger.
He was an american, israeliweightlifter.
Okay, from shaker heights, ohio.
Okay, he said, quote I thoughtI'm going to be the guy to tell
that family in shaker heights,ohio whether their son and
brother is alive or dead.
End quote.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Ultimately, he did have to deliver that news oh,
really, he was one of the onesthat Yep Okay.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
So Jim emphasized that his background in newspaper
reporting prepared him for thefactual aspects of this
particular broadcast, because hewas in sports, sure.
But he started off just asevery other journalist reporting
the facts.
So he says quote reporting isreporting.
Reporting the facts.
So he says quote reporting isreporting.
(47:44):
It's basically the same thingtelling the facts of what have
happened here and is happeninghere and also giving something
of the flavor of what it feelslike to be here at this point.
Sure, the idea of telling thesepeople that all these men were
dead.
Of course I did it.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
It was one of the most terrible moments of my life
and I can't imagine it was itwasn't because could you imagine
being there like, yep, morepeople are dead.
Yeah, more people are dead.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
It's like fuck that man, that sucks the broadcast
involved live reporting frompeter jennings.
Oh hey, yeah, he was in theolympic village at this time
okay jennings was also availableto provide crucial information
via somewhere like complexcommunication setup okay yeah,
um, a producer also infiltratedthe village equipped with a 16
(48:29):
millimeter camera.
Jeez, quote.
I knew this one building wasexactly facing the building
where they were held.
The producer stated, describinghim coming like essentially
face to face with a terrorist.
Sure, so the day was filledwith tension, evolving deadlines
and jim says, quote when I wasa kid, my father always told me
(48:51):
that our greatest hopes and ourworst fears were seldom realized
.
Okay, tonight, our worst feelfears have been realized sure,
yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
You're seeing shit unfold real time and not a great
outcome.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
So Jim described the chaotic aftermath, including the
false report that the hostagerescue was successful.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
So, upon returning to his hotel room, like they
wrapped up, upon returning tohis hotel room, like they
wrapped up upon returning to hishotel room, his wife, who was
sleeping at the time he woke upand she was like I'm just so
glad that everybody made it outsafe and he goes no they're all
dead yeah.
He got two hours of sleep thatnight.
Then he had to prepare for thememorial service.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
He found a note from Walter Cronkite oh good old
walter and it said, quote jim,you were a credit to your
network, to your medium and toyourself.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
End quote I mean, that's pretty good coming from
walter conk.
Right, he was looked at as avery uh, I don't know what the
word I'm looking for prestigiousyeah public figure yeah because
he was on the news for ever, ifI remember right.
Yeah, so walter cronkite sothat was the.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
So the september 5th movie.
September 5 is really what itsays, but um, it was.
It's based on jim mckay'sbroadcasting and then munich is
based on the actual I just sawthat come out.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Like I said, I didn't look into it, I just saw the
title or something, whatever itwas.
I had no idea that those werelinked together.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
So that's wild, but that is the tragic story of the
1972 Israeli Olympic massacreWay to bring down the mood.
Sorry about the somberness, butthis is a really interesting
story.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
It is.
Yeah, it's really sad thatobviously again played out like
it did.
Yeah, it's sad that they and Iunderstand why they picked the
platform they did it on Is thatthe right word?
I'm looking at Not reallyplatform, Because more eyes were
on it.
So I understand that.
Yeah, man, what a, what a dickmove.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Well, let's, let's cheers with your nearly empty
gin and tonic.
Nearly Cheers.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Ah, water Welp, I suppose.
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