October 15, 2024 • 49 mins
Ever struggled with taking pills without water, or remember the quirky methods you used as a kid to mask those chalky tablet tastes? We're kicking off this episode with personal stories about our adventures with headaches and medications, from using Cool Whip to swallow pills to laughing at how movies make pill-taking look so effortless. After a few chuckles, we dive into a delightful review of Three Sheeps Brewery's latest beer, appreciating their minimalistic setup and the freedom to BYOF (bring your own food) to enhance the experience.
Our beer talk soon leads to a captivating lesson on one of history's grandest feats: the construction of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Ever wonder how those ancient builders pulled off such precise engineering with rudimentary tools? We break down the use of copper tools, sand-embedded saws, and the innovative methods of transporting massive stones via the Nile. Plus, we unravel the myth that slaves built the pyramids, revealing insights from Egyptologist Dr. Zahi Hawass about the honored status of these skilled workers.
Finally, we explore the deeper purpose of pyramids beyond being mere tombs, pondering theories about their alignment with Orion's belt and their potential role in transforming men into gods. Our chat takes a fun twist with a nod to the movie "Stargate" and its impact on sci-fi TV. So, grab your favorite brew and join us for an episode brimming with history, humor, and a fresh perspective on some of humanity's most intriguing marvels.
Sources:
The Pyramids of Egypt- How & Why They Were Built
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jEad6zxaFk
Directed by Jobim Sampson
Narrated by Eric Meyers
The Egyptian Pyramid
https://www.si.edu/spotlight/ancient-egypt/pyramid
Probing Question: How were the Egyptian pyramids built?
Penn State
https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/probing-question-how-were-egyptian-pyramids-built/
By by Marissa McCauley
Egypt discovers workers' tombs near pyramids
The Associated Press
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34794254
National Museum of Natural History
https://www.si.edu/spotlight/ancient-egypt/pyramid
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
oh, hey there, oh hey there.
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I have a headache me too.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
What the what?
And I, I'm a medicine personlike I can take a tylenol and
advil and ibuprofen and all that, but you, you don't.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I mean I can take them, I just don't take them.
I know I just never have been afan.
It's probably because my momshoved me full of meds for my
whole youth.
I'm just kidding, she reallydidn't um, but even back then,
like I didn't like taking ummedicine we always had uh, how
did my dad word it?
He said cool bat and meds likecool whip.
(00:48):
For somebody who said cool bator at least that's how I always
heard it so to get us to takemedicine when we were little
they would get my mom always hadcool whip.
Sounds great it was and shewould.
And pills were a lot differentback then, so they were a lot
more chalky yeah, likedissolving or whatever, so they
(01:08):
weren't really nasty, yeah, soshe would get a spoon um, scoop
some cool up on it and thenshove the pills in there.
And that's how we took ourpills.
Nice, yeah, because we mom, Iknow we weren't very good pill
takers back in the day.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, I don't really remember much about that in my
youth, but that's par for thecourse.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You don't really remember much of your adult life
either.
I know you wake up and like Iexist.
Yay, look at me.
I'm a real burr.
I was going to say boy, butthen I'm like girl.
I'm a real burr.
I'm just gonna say boy, butthen I'm like girl.
I'm like I'm a real burl I'm areal burl that was.
Uh, that was an attempt toquote pinocchio, but at the same
(01:56):
time, I'm like oh jesus, I'mkilling her with laughter oh my
gosh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So, hey, real burl, my bad.
Well, I take.
So I'm really good at takingpills now because I can take
like a whole handful in one gulpif you will.
I have to have water, though.
The movies that they show youtaking pills without water, that
is bullshit.
Yeah, because they probably justgive them like a tic tac and
it's fucking it's not realisticno, it's not realistic at all I
mean I would choke on those askme how I know how do you know?
(02:31):
I've choked on them beforewithout water experience okay,
so I have a new beer, new to mebeer.
Um, so this is from ThreeSheeps Like blah blah, black
sheep, not to be confused withsheets.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes, sir, three bags full.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So Three Sheeps.
It is a brewery that I've beento.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
What did you call it in the last podcast?
Brew-ering yeah brewery, thisis the new brewing.
What did you call it in thelast podcast?
That was a brewing like a yeahbrewing.
This is the new brewing.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm like um so three sheeps is in sheboygan,
wisconsin, and I've been thereum a couple of times, but it's
like this big warehouse lookingthing that they just have like a
bunch of picnic tables out thatyou can.
There's no food or anything,it's just the bar and then a ton
of picnic tables and then theirentire wall of the building
(03:30):
opens up.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So you, it's like a patio type thing, but it's very
like, which is minimal it's coolthat, that you know the opens
up and whatever, but I'm not abig fan of all these places.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
There's so many just like cookie cutter warehouses
going up and whether it's a, abrewing or a whatever business,
it's just like there's no likeimagination for your businesses
anymore with these buildingsyeah it's all just like hey,
here's a box, exist in there Idon't mind the three sheep's one
, because you can like bring inyour own food, like they don't
(04:03):
care about that well, yeah,because they obviously they
don't you know uh sell any.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So I mean, that totally makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But so the only beer that I remember liking at three
sheeps was their amber, I thinkit's called oh boy I don't know.
Oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh.
I know I'm just not very wellversed in them.
I don't remember now, but thisone is a juicy pale ale called
(04:30):
fresh coast and if you rememberfrom a previous podcast, she did
not have a good go-around on.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Uh, we don't have to rub their name in it anymore.
Oh sorry, or promote it forthat matter, kiwina.
Either way, you're going out ofyour comfort zone.
It's not a lager.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, so we'll see how that works.
What do you got?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Just to be 100% transparent, here she has a
Modelo at the ready.
Oh, I fuck, yeah, I do and it isopen it's ready to go it is
open it's basically like achaser, just in case it doesn't
go well this time, like thatthat one time.
But all right, I have a uh,third space brewing.
(05:19):
Uh, they're out of milwaukee,wisconsin.
I know of them.
I don't think I've everactually had one of their beers
before, but I went hardcore.
I have their Infinite Wisdom,which I thought was kind of
fitting for a history podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Sure Because we don't have it.
They're aiming pretty high, butokay.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, I mean it never ends.
See what I did there.
It's infinite Shut up.
It took me a second, I know itdid.
I could tell the dribble had tolike.
Oh, it's my time to shine.
Run on the wheel or the mouseor whatever it's running around
in your brain.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The cogs.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah.
No or whatever it's runningaround in your brain.
The cogs, yeah, no, who?
Am I kidding.
There's a hamster up there.
That's what it is, but it's animperial ipa nine percent
alcohol by volume mine's only a4.2 or so, eight, oh that's,
that's a higher okay, are weready?
Yeah, here we go oh, that wasso like in tandem yeah, it
(06:26):
almost like shut down my earsfor a second through the
headphones.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That was weird oh okay, I like mine the juicy,
pale, ale fresh coast from threesheeps for being a nine percent
.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You would not guess that that's pretty good good
yeah, awesome, very nice, welldone we have some winners uh
well, I mean, last time we werestill batting, you know 500,
mine was good, yours not so muchso you ready for a story?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
it's not really a story, it's more of just a
lesson really.
Oh, you have a lesson plannedfor me.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I kind of do okay yeah I hope I'm ready for that I
think you'll enjoy it I wouldimagine, I will it is um about
how the pyramids were built.
The speculation of how theywere built.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
No, you're not wrong.
Like there's not like solid,solid proof.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Definitive proof.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, but they no longer think it was from like
slaves.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It was aliens, 100% that's been documented?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
By what conspiracy?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
theorist.
I don't have enough time toname all those people because
there's a lot of them.
I think out there ancientaliens I think that's a show on
history channel I know you'reright, you're right okay, so so
are you going to teach us howthey like did the track around
the top of it and everything?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Kind of yeah, cool, yeah, I'm going to tell you some
things.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And I'm going to learn.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You're going to get schooled on pyramids from Chiron
.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I hated school.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I know, but we like history, so here we are.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That's why we're doing it.
Just because I hated schooldoesn't mean I didn't like
things from it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I liked history, I liked math and I liked leaving.
I liked graduation.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Graduation was great.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So the pyramids of Cairo were considered the
world's first skyscrapers.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mean, they were the tallest structure in the world
for a long time right.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Built 2,000 years before Christ.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Christ was built.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I feel like that's a song.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
What?
2,000 years before Christ.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Christ was built.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We can write one.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Won't be very good.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I can play drums.
You could write it, I'll singit.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I could write the drums.
I can play drums you couldwrite it.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'll sing it I could write the drums.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I can't play guitar, okay, let's move on.
Or keyboard, I am not a pianist.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Okay, so the Great Pyramid, the big guy, right.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
At Giza.
Yeah, yeah, so that one stands481 feet tall, which is funny
because you think about it nowlike skyscrapers that we have,
it's like that's not very big481 feet tall I think it's
pretty big yeah, it's big.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
There are 2.3 million blocks, some all the way up to
50 tons in weight what is thewidth of the base?
Um, I have it written heresomewhere, but it's a number and
I don't remember shit, so I'lllet you know when I read it I'm
gonna edit that out so that'sfine.
(09:55):
So there were also.
So in all it was six milliontons of bricks, which is equal
to 16 Empire State Buildings.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Wow, so is that for all three pyramids, Just the
Great Pyramid?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, Nice, okay, here's the answer to your
question.
Oh, hey, look at this.
The sides of the pyramid are755 feet in length.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And, amazingly enough , they only vary within two
inches.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Right, isn't that?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
wild, they're so precise.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, yeah, because obviously all three line up with
Orion's belt.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That is speculation.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
yes, Well, I mean it does.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yes, but they don't know if that's the reason for
right.
Right, that's a speculation andlike how?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
like, yeah, what well , I'll let you talk, because I
don't want to like, in case youhave some of the stuff yeah, so
inside the burial chambers theblocks are so precise that even
a credit card cannot slipthrough the supposed burial
burial chambers yes, soarchaeologists use dynamite
(11:14):
dynamite to blast their waythrough the pyramids, which is
sad, I know, and that actuallydisrupted potential clues on how
the pyramids were.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, that's why it's sad, because because, they
don't know what they blew upbecause they blew it up, and so
now we're using non-invasivetechnology.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, we have a lot better equipment these days,
because they found them how manyyears ago?
Obviously They've been aroundfor a long time where these
people started exploring andthey're like, fuck it, blow it
up.
I know.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So trial and error pyramids were actually built
around 2600 BCE off the NileRiver One, the first one that
they made is called the StepPyramid of Saqqara.
It's the oldest stone quoteunquote building on Earth.
Okay, stone quote-unquotebuilding on earth.
Okay, so it's writing rising204 feet from the desert sands,
(12:08):
which was a breakthrough in thehistory of construction.
Sure makes sense.
It didn't have any smoothsloping sides, but instead rose
in a series of levels or stepsright.
So the first flat-sided truepyramids were built 60 years
later by the pharaoh Nufru.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Nufru.
Yeah, how do you spell that?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
S-N-E-F-E-R-U, or Sneferu, sneferu I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
All right, that is a heck of a name.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, but his son, khufu, built the uh-huh, built
the great pyramid.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
what a guy yeah, well , he had people build it for him
.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
He didn't do it yes, and then there were, um, a
series of smaller, highlydecorated pyramids that were
later built at sakara, right.
So the ancient archaeologistsmapped out the location of the
pyramids with with a lot of careand precision.
Oh yeah, they needed afoundation that could handle the
six million tons of limestone.
(13:14):
Yep, so they mapped out thepoints of the compass north,
south, east, west so that eachside aligned with the direction,
isn.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Isn't that crazy.
It's so amazing and there's adegree of error, but it's so
minute how close they actuallygot to true north and all that
stuff.
It's wild how precise they wereback then.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So they followed the path of the stars as it rose and
fell, and then chose the midwaypoint, and that was true north.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
They were off true north by a 20th of a degree.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Isn't that wild.
To be that precise again atthat time in our history is just
crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And in my head I'm thinking'm thinking, okay, if I
stayed in this spot, where is mylocal walmart that is north?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
or if you look at my house, my this room slopes into
that corner uh-huh that's been.
This house has only been up for183 years or whatever.
That's been up for thousandsand it's like, yeah, we're good,
yeah, but no thanks house yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So modern foundations are leveled with lasers.
But British engineer DennisStocks, who is an expert in
ancient Egyptian constructiontechniques, thinks that the
Egyptians used water in a sortof channel.
Okay, so along each of the 755foot side of the pyramid they
(14:51):
would create a channel withwater which acted like a level.
So then they would etch aroundit, maintaining the water's
level that's wild yeah, soyou've got a ditch right yeah
filled with water.
Then you chisel away the earthuntil the water is level.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, I've never heard of that before that's
crazy, that is crazy.
I mean that's brilliant becausethe water is going to find the
the flat surface, if you will,whatever, yeah, yeah, wow, I
didn't know that that's.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's pretty interesting so for each 2.3
million blocks, they likelycreated a type of a frame that
has a crossbar and a plumb linedown the center.
Okay, so right behind the plumbline is a scored line in the
wood of the crossbar.
(15:43):
Okay, so the plumb line and thethe uh, the scored line should
be exactly the same right so, ifyou think of the capital letter
a, the a-frame was likely madeof wood and had a string hanging
from the center of the top ofthe a and then a weight was
attached to the other end of thestring, and when the a frame
(16:06):
was placed on an uneven surface,the weight or the plumb string
would move the string in onedirection or the other can I ask
a question?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
yeah, what did they call it back then?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
because they didn't have the letter a where do you
come up with these questions?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay, I came up with like A-frame and I don't know
what it's actually called JeezLouise.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well, I didn't know, just curious Inquiring minds
want to know.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
They just called it a level.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Okay, I'm sorry.
Oh, my god Didn't mean toderail you there.
My bad, I saw it.
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
So the markings on the crossbeam the a indicated
indicated how far off center thesurface was.
Okay.
So to make it easier to seewhen the string was hanging
straight down, the wood near thestring was attached to the
frame could be notched out orhave a vertical marking.
So what they did in place ofone leg of the a.
So what they did is they placedone leg of the a on a flat
surface of water.
Then they would square out thelime stone rocks until the plum
(17:15):
line matched up with the scoreline.
Sure?
no, that makes sense you want tosee a picture of it, sure, okay
, what's it look like to you?
It looks like a pyramid aletter a oh, maybe it was a
pyramid frame back then no, it'sthe letter a yeah, I see that
with a plumb line and it's atlike a 90 degree point yes, okay
(17:40):
, anywho so, over the course of500 years, 18 pyramids were
built.
That's a long time 500 years,18 pyramids.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Well, I mean, it's not like they were built.
Rome wasn't built in a day,neither was the pyramids.
I mean it took a while.
I mean that's a shit ton ofrock.
That is that they got to move.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So I mean, they took literally what decades to make.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Literally.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Centuries.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Or that too.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, so near Cairo is a quarry with high quality
limestone and they used copperto chisel away the limestone.
But copper is a soft metal thatcan bend or blunt easily
correct so they're like how doesthat work?
(18:39):
Egyptian copper had traceamounts of arsenic so what did
that do to it?
That made the copper much moredurable and stronger.
And then it's pure form really,and they would use more broad
copper chisels and woodenmallets for rough work and then
(18:59):
they would use like pointed forcopper chisels for yeah, exactly
okay so limestone is relativelysoft, but in the chambers of
the pyramid they used granite.
Copper chisels were useless.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, against granite , for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, and ironworking wasn't around yet.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So how did they cut granite so perfectly Lasers?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You ready for this?
I don't know if I am, becauseit sounds pretty profound.
They did use copper.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
What.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's like you tried to lead us off but went right
back to it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
Did you get like whiplash?
No, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I got worse headache.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So they actually used a copper saw with no teeth oh
man, they just gummed their waythrough it oh god sorry oh my
god.
So how did they cut it?
(20:03):
Using copper saw with no teeth?
They used sand.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So the quartz crystals in sand gets embedded
into the soft copper and the sawdrags those crystals back and
forth Wow, and actually does thecutting.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's weird, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So now, cutting granite this way took an hour to
cut just two cubic inches.
Oh geez, so it would take fourmonths to just two cubic inches.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh geez.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So it would take four months to just create a
sarcophagus.
Wow, with that technique.
Isn't that crazy, that's a longtime.
They would literally just poursalt in the area that they're
trying to cut away.
And then they had this bigtwo-person copper.
Saw that would chisel the sand.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You mean sand, they poured.
You said salt sorry, yes, sand.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Where did I come up with sand salt?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
you're probably hungry, and then you put salt on
everything I do.
Thanks, hubby yeah, yourhusband really got you into salt
, lots of salt, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
So anyway, so, based in the quarry, they would
transport their blocks on boatsthat they built for the Nile
Right, and then they wouldcreate an oil slick on land to
move the blocks.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
To basically slide them across.
Yeah, so I guess I'm unfamiliarwith that part of the territory
.
Were they rich in oil overthere?
I mean they have apparently, ifthey can make like a oil slick
just to slide them across yeah,I don't know that's weird, I
(21:41):
never, never knew that but Imean, they got copper and they
got limestone.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Why can't they have oil?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Might as well, give them some cake too.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
So as far as how they chose the pyramid shape, they
knew it would have to besupported by a wide base and a
low center of gravity.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay, and more than two-thirds of the weight has to
be at the bottom right.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
So some say it's this shape to replicate the way the
sun peaks out under a cloud,when there's like a resulting
triangle sunbeam okay um.
So they built the firstflat-sided pyramid with a
55-degree angle using a solidstone foundation, but only on
(22:34):
the edges of the pyramid.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So it was just basically like the perimeter.
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
The inside of the base was clay.
As the pyramid rose in size,the clay would buckle underneath
and the inside chamber startedto crack.
That would make sense.
So mid build they changed theangle from 55 degrees to 43
degrees, which reduced theheight of the pyramid by 100
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feet and the weight by 400 000tons.
It's a lot of tons.
This pyramid is called the bentpyramid and it still stands.
That's a shit ton.
So lesson learned, right?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I guess the great pyramid was built at 45 degrees
why they had the two I thinkthey were testing the waters, or
or they're like well, that'shalf a 90-degree angle.
Let's do that.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
So it is considered the most shallow pyramid, but
also the only true smooth-sidedpyramid still standing today.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Because it used to have what was the surface they
put on it.
It's all gone by now, but wasthat limestone as well?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, it's also limestone.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, which I talk about here.
So archaeologists surmise thatonce at the quarry they built a
ramp to transport the limestone.
So they built a ramp up to thepyramid summit.
But what type of ramp?
Because they still don't knowwhat kind.
But there are three potentialways.
One is to build a ramp straightto the top which makes no sense
(24:09):
that would be really eitherreally really long exactly steep
, and that's the thing.
It couldn't be steep because ofthe weight of those rocks yeah
obviously guys aren't going tobe pushing those up there or
pulling or both so another umway is a ramp in the form of
like an airline queue line,where it zigzags up one side of
(24:33):
the pyramid.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I hope their third one's the one that I saw.
It's more recent and they'repretty sure that's how it was.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
A spiral going all the way around.
Yeah, yes, like a spiralstaircase.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
At least the thing I saw, which I don't think was
very old.
I just saw it that not thatlong ago.
They think that they discoveredthat more recently, kind of
thing because, everyone thoughtit was just a ramp straight up
to top, like the first one.
You said yeah, and like thatjust doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, because that that rampwould have to be like miles long
, right, right, especially whenit gets to the higher peak.
(25:10):
I guess.
But yeah, the one I saw, it'slike yeah, goes around, spirals
up to the top, and then theykind of work their way back in
where they fill it in, toeliminate it, because they're
like, well, why can't we see it?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Well, because they filled it in, which makes sense
so the internal limestone blockswere rough and unfinished
looking and they filled thecracks with mortar and limestone
chippings.
But the exterior blocks thoseseen um are perfectly finished
yeah, they were smoothed out orsawed better, I guess.
So inside the chamber theblocks, those were granite,
(25:51):
right yeah.
So how did they make them soprecise?
Great question.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Do tell.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
They used two dowels tied together with string.
Okay, okay, pulling it taut,they would use that as a level.
Then a third dowel in the samesize would be used as a guide
along the top string.
Okay, if the dowel was abovethe string, they would mark that
(26:18):
spot of the stone with apigment called red ochre, and
the builders would find thatmark and use a flint scraper to
scrape away the high point andand the red ochre would get
scraped off with it right,really yeah wow they're on
little level they're on thelevel here they are.
(26:39):
So across the now there was evenbetter limestone, and the
egyptians used this limestone asa type of smooth coating on the
pyramids which you mentioned.
Yeah, so back in that time itlooked white, correct, it was
almost blinding in the sunlight.
Yeah, so these facing stones,sadly, have been taken to build
mosques and castles in cairoyeah, it was basically like it
(27:01):
was pillaged and used for otherthings.
Yeah, pretty much but a fewremnants still remain at one of,
like the peak of the pyramids.
Okay, so they would finish fromthe top of the pyramid down and
then the ramps would be likedismantled as the work was
completed, as you had mentionedyep.
So with the help of acontractor, craig smith, who has
(27:25):
operated and overseen vastamounts of construction sites,
he estimated how much money itwould take to build the pyramid.
Oh geez, four billion dollarsand four years they could do it
in four years.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Wow four, no, no, now that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So if we could build it now, it would take $4 billion
in four years.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's what I'm saying, though I'm surprised
it's still that quick today.
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
The Egyptians.
It took them 23 years to buildthe Great Pyramid.
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's way quicker than I thought.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And then they had 18 of them to boot.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well over 500 years so listen to this.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
That would equate to placing a block.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Placing a block every two minutes and this is for the
four year time frame, or forthem, for them, okay it would be
.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
it would take place in a block every two minutes,
270 blocks every single day for23 years Holy crap.
And then we're going to buildanother 17.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah.
So do you think they placed thelast block and the guys are
like, ah, look at that, goodwork.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And then the boss comes up, the next pharaoh's
like.
All right, the pharaoh comes up.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
looks good guys, we're going to put another one
right over there.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And they're like motherfucker.
Well, that brings me to theworkers.
So a lot of legends claim thatit was slaves that built the
pyramids.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I've seen the Ten Commandments.
I know.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
But they were wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, that's actually another thing I've seen
recently too.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So it was thought that the pharaoh would never
have forced his own people tobuild year after year.
Thought that the pharaoh wouldnever have forced his own people
to build year after year.
Right, and instead, potentially, israelites were used as slave
slave labor.
However, egyptologist dr zahihawass discovered tombs of the
(29:23):
builders located just in theshadows of the pyramids in 1990.
Oh wow, really.
There was like this little lostcity.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Of tombs.
Yeah, I'm sure people died allthe time working on these.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
If they were slaves, they wouldn't be buried near the
pyramid oh God no.
And their chambers wouldn't beornate, which these were.
So it was considered to be anhonor to be buried there.
So they knew they were notslaves.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Did it describe how they were ornate, like what they
included, or was it just like?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It was more like carvings on the door frames and
that kind of thing.
Sure, that makes sense.
So with the help of forensics,the builders in these tombs were
examined.
From the bones bones they couldsee that they actually had
medical treatment oh, wow theyhad.
Their bones had like beensettled like um set.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yes, after a break or something.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yes, not settled, but , yes, setting um, and one even
had brain surgery.
Oh really yeah.
And they and they know thatslaves would never have this
kind of treatment.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
No, they would have let them die because they were
replaceable.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So near these tombs they excavated a new site, which
was the discovery of thebuilder's town.
The builders received generousamounts of food, fish, meat and
even beer, huzzah and they wereconsidered very important.
So let's cheers to that Cheersto the workers.
(30:57):
What happened to your otherbeer?
He's on a line in Kugel now.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I finished it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh shit, I'm talking too much.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I know.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, so they were considered like middle
management.
Um, but even they had what?
No, sorry, I'm like the middlemanagement of of the builders,
so like they still had theirtiers of management quote
unquote.
Yeah, do you think theymicromanaged back then those?
(31:25):
They were treated even better.
They had tons of fresh meatsapparently so they were also
unskilled workers um that soundsterrible.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Do you got any of those unskilled workers I can
have.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
They're not very good , that's all right so, um, many
of them were, um, as working asmilitary service, oh okay, who
were meant to build rather thanfight gotcha?
So the biggest theory of whythey built the pyramids was to
entomb the pharaohs, which iswrong.
However, no pharaoh has everbeen discovered and not a single
(32:04):
mummy has ever been found in aburial chamber, correct?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
that's like, and it's funny because like they call it
the king's chamber and I think,there's also a queen's chamber
if I'm not mistaken but nothingwas found in that I mean, there
has even been literature andhieroglyphics that claim that it
was a burial ground for theking, but they've never found
anything but they're, they'rethe, if I remember right, the
(32:29):
pyramids are like pretty devoidof like like you go to um valley
of the kings where, like, kingtut was buried and you found,
you know, his tomb and stuff.
There's shit all on the wallsand so on, whatever.
There's like nothing inside thepyramids, not like that, at
least.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
So so in 1879, there was a workman that was traveling
, walking along the pyramids,and he followed a jackal into a
hole, oh, near the pyramid ofsakara.
Okay, upon entering, he found achamber where, where the walls
(33:09):
were covered with hieroglyphs.
This is actually going to beconsidered the oldest religious
text in egypt.
Ok, so these writings did nottell us how the pyramids were
made, but why they were made okand they were meant to turn men
into gods.
Oh so turning the dead into aliving spirit, hmm.
A mummified pharaoh would becarried into his tomb with food,
(33:34):
clothes, jewels and treasureseverything he would need in the
afterlife Of course, because youknow you need jewels Mm-hmm.
And the Egyptians believed thatthe afterlife was like this one
, but much better.
Well, if you're a god, yeah,yeah so today the great pyramid
of giza has actually lost 30feet in height, really so has it
(33:59):
sunk yeah?
however, at this rate, it wouldtake another 65 000 years for
the pyramid to disappear fromthe cairo skyline well, can't
wait to see that happen so mostof my um material came from a um
, a youtube video.
(34:19):
Oh really, yeah.
So it was called the pyramidsof egypt, how and why they were
built, and it is directed byYo-Him Sampson and narrated by
Eric Myers.
It is very, very, very welldone.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I highly recommend it .
But that will be linked in ourshow notes.
But that is how the pyramidswere built.
Isn't that really fascinating?
The tools in particular reallyfascinated me.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
The saw, the copper saw with the sand, yeah, or salt
the copper saw with the sandyeah.
Or salt, whatever you had onhand.
But sometimes they put a littlepepper on there, maybe some
paprika.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Paprika smoked, of course.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
So there's obviously a billion theories about why,
how, whatever.
Um, because, like some of themand I'm not going to get this
anywhere close to what it is,but it's like one one theory is
how they like basicallyharnessed energy through it.
(35:19):
I don't remember all thespecifics, I'm not a smart
person, but it's like some ofthe shit to talk about is like I
can see that, yeah, but I'm nota scientist, I don't know.
But there's so many just wildtheories.
I mean obviously, like we saidbefore, the aliens Aliens did it
(35:40):
.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, so there was a guy that noticed that it
followed Orion's belt, butthere's no justification on why
they built it like that well, orif it was just a coincidence,
but it seems really weird to bea coincidence, because it's like
, yeah, it's not in a straightline.
(36:02):
No, the three pyramids are likeone is off center a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Right, it's way too Holy shit.
Look at that To be, like well,man, we got lucky there.
It's like, yeah, I don't.
I just I feel like that's aweak thing, saying it's not.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, part of it.
Yeah, in some way.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, cause it's too precise for that.
My only thing is too is like,because I mean again, that's
what would you say.
When was it built?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So that's another thing too it was 2600 BCE.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So they're saying 4600 years ago.
The star skyline is differentas well.
It moves, it varies, it evolves, whatever you want to call it.
So that's why, like, I thinkthere's even a service where you
could be, like I was here onthis date and so on, like I can
print you a map of the stars onthat exact day or whatever- yeah
(37:02):
but, um, you would think therewould be different, but
obviously there's still somesimilarities.
Stars last for a long time andtheir light shines through for a
long time, until it justdoesn't because they died
millions of years ago, whatever,I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Just it's fascinating because you're never really
gonna know I know but like justin 1990 they found that little
lost city where the builderswould sleep, where they hang out
yeah, it's just what.
Have you ever seen the movieout?
Yeah, it's just what.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Have you ever seen the movie Stargate?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
No.
Oh, it's a great movie Is thatwith Katie Sackhoff.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
No From Battlestar Galactica.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Are you impressed that I know who that is?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I can't believe you actually knew someone's name.
I do okay with actors andactresses names and movies, but
I'm well, relatively decent.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
No, it's with uh, kurt russell I know who that is,
thank you james spader, I alsoknow who that is.
I like his voice a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, he's ultron yes he is ultron and he's in the
show boston legal, which ispretty funny he was also uh,
denigrating uh, robertcalifornia in the show Boston
Legal, which is pretty funny.
He was also Dina Croy, robertCalifornia, in the Office after
Steve Carell's character left.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Oh, I have not seen that.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I think that was his name, Robert California.
That sounds right.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I could be wrong.
He's got a great voice.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
He does have a little deeper such.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, but very articulate.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Stuart French was in it.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I don't know that one .
Speaker 2 (38:31):
He's got the weird face he was in.
Uh, what was he?
The third rock from the sun guy?
I never watched that show, butoh man I think he was in that oh
, how was that kid's name?
Speaker 1 (38:42):
he's in the bat the batman movies joseph gordon
levin.
Yeah, joseph gordon levin, hewas on that show, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I'm pretty sure that was Stuart French was the one in
that show.
Again, I could be wrong, Inever actually watched that show
, but basically the premise ofthe movie.
I really liked the movie and itspawned multiple, multiple TV
shows and yes, question overthere.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, my hand raised.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I saw.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
What are?
Yeah, my hand raised, I sawwhat are we?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
talking about again stargate, right.
So it's not a tv show, it's amovie.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It was a movie first.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Oh okay, so we're talking about the movie and, as
I stated, it spawned multiple,multiple tv shows.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh god, I gotta got it you understand yeah, I was
drinking my beer, sorry oh, myword okay, yes, continue but
basically, what, what, what?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
the premise of the movie is um aliens.
This alien was dying.
He found this race, humans, onthis other planet, not earth and
um to last last longer, he puthis body, his mind or whatever
in his body, so on.
(39:50):
But then they had this stargatethat they could transport
between two worlds, which wasstar gate yeah, it's literally
in the name star portal oh mystar walkway star bridge star
bridge yes, yeah, star path starsidewalk oh, my word.
(40:13):
What have I done?
Star road star strangle me starpavement there's a in mario
kart, there's a.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Starbridge, that's Rainbow.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Road, rainbow Bridge yeah, whatever, rainbow Bridge
is what they also refer to aswhat Thor took from Planet to.
Planet, yeah, yeah, yeah, butanyway, it's a really good movie
.
I enjoy it.
I actually watched it, I thinklike two or three weeks ago.
I put it on rotation from timeto time.
(40:49):
However, I will say and thiswas it came out in the 90s, I
don't remember exactly what year, but James Spader's sneezing is
so fake in that movie it'sreally bad.
I like the actor, I like therest of the movie, but, man,
come on, it just didn't work forme in that.
(41:09):
Sorry, james, jimmy jimmy, butgood work otherwise, keep it up.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, you know you know what I want to watch right
now what's that the?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
mummy that's a good movie.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
We've mentioned before about that was one of my
go-to yeah sleep movies, so yeah, yeah, brandon fraser is just,
he's a, he's a treasure, he is atreasure I know that is a great
, great uh word to to describehim.
Yes, he is a treasure.
I've always really liked him.
(41:44):
I used to have a ringtone backwhen I had a Nokia phone, so it
was the beeps yeah.
But you could still uploadaudio clips.
Oh really, yeah, and one of myringtones was Brendan Fraser's
voice.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Was it really?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I was obsessed with Brendan Fraser and Colin Firth
and I'm not as obsessed, butthey are still very high on my
fan, on my my list of favoriteactors.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
okay, I met damon I met damon, but I, I love, I love
me some brittan fraser oh yeah,for sure I've liked him in a
lot of things.
Uh, I never really got behindthe whole encino man, but I've
only seen it and that was like30 years ago.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
It's a great movie.
Let's watch that.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I don't own that movie.
I wonder if it's on a streamingplatform.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Perhaps Perhaps.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yes, but no, yeah I enjoy him a lot.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Arnold Vosloo yes, he's very sexy in that movie too
.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, yeah, who does he play Imhotep?
There you go.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, I can quote that movie.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Oh, so can.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I it's pretty ingrained in the brain Crazy and
sane Got no brain.
Ingrained in the membrane.
Oh, Okay so should we move onto the idiom that you have
prepared.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
That you have prepared.
That you have prepared.
Oh, my word, yeah, why don't wedo that?
Floors for most people weredirt, yes, back a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Only wealthy people had something other than dirt.
Why?
What do you think came fromthat?
What term do you think camefrom that?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Dirt poor.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Correct the wealth.
Huzzah, I got one About fuckingtime Been here for weeks.
The wealthy would usually haveslate floors.
This is the part.
Slate rich I didn't say that butwhich would get slippery in the
winter when the floors wouldget wet Because obviously
(44:00):
tracking in snow, rain, whatever, because of this, they would
put thresh, otherwise strawFancy word for straw and in a
way they would put that down onthe floor to keep their footing
so they wouldn't be all slippingon sliding.
As the winter wore on, theywould add more thresh until you
(44:22):
open the door and it all startsslipping outside okay okay, a
piece of wood was placed in theentranceway, subsequently
creating a threshold.
That's why we have thresholds,thresholds, because it literally
held my mind is blown, slowsyour face, apparently.
(44:46):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (44:53):
That's shock and awe.
It's shock for her for surethresh is a type of straw.
I mean it's, yeah, it's justbasically a oh, it's another
name for straw for as far as Ican ascertain.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yes, threshold yeah.
So that's how, that's where weget threshold from.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
That's awesome okay, so what is your final decision
on your?
What was it again?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
oh, my third space beer third space yeah infinite
wisdom, which we all strive forbut we'll never obtain.
It was really good um again forbeing a nine percent abv um,
especially because usuallytypically an imperial ipa is
going to be higher alcoholvolume.
Just the makeup of those typeof beers, it was really good.
(45:43):
I really enjoyed it.
I just I would never haveguessed if you gave me this in a
pint glass and said, here, trythis.
I would have known it's a paleale or an IPA.
I would have never guessed it's9%.
It was very smooth, verydelicious, very nice.
So yeah, I really enjoyed it.
What about you with your juicypale ale?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Rebel Kent.
Oh, I got there Three Sheeps.
Has an amber called Rebel Kent.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
It only took the whole episode, but hey, it
really did.
I knew the word rebel was in it, figured it out and that one I
do enjoy.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
But this one um the juicy pale ale called fresh
coast is is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I really, I really like it well, that's fantastic
to hear, because you know yourlast one wasn't so uh, so ideal
maybe I should write down whatbeers I liked, so that when I'm
like, which beer do I buy next?
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I'd be like I think I got the kiwani one before, but
I don't remember if I liked itwell, and that's the thing with
your memory.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
You might pick it up again like oh, this is new, I
should try this yeah and then mytaste buds would be like bitch.
You've been here before yeah,why you bring us back to this
place.
We don't like it here.
So so with the pyramids, though, did you did the video talk
about the sphinx at all?
No, okay, nope, because there'salso rumors of that being older
(47:06):
than what they think it is, andit was there prior to possibly
the pyramids, or the Egyptiansfound these things.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I do know, did you?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
ever read or hear anything like that?
No, okay.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I do know that when the guy is chiseling out the
nose of the Sphinx that JasmineAladdin flew by and really
startled the guy.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
As soon as you started talking about that, I
knew you were going to dosomething stupid.
Oh my god, I can't believe Ididn't just stop recording.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
It's fine, everything's fine.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Thousands of years of erosion.
No it was Jasmine and Aladdin.
It's fine, everything's fine.
Thousands of years of erosion.
No, it was just.
It was jasmine and aladdin dudetrying to look up jasmine's
blouse or whatever the hell shewas wearing.
What?
Those weird pants, thosebillowy pants?
They're like mc hammer pantsbefore they were mc hammer pants
yeah, but that they'rehistorically accurate.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I mean, it is Disney, they do their research.
That was sarcasm, folks.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I know, I know it was , but I'm glad you pointed it
out for Al because he might nothave picked up on that?
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Is he a believer?
Speaker 2 (48:19):
He's a believer.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
I'm a believer.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Please.
We almost made it through afucking podcast without you
singing and you ruined it.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Well, I gotta do it.
I just wanna dance, anyways, Iknow who that song was
originally by.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
The Monkees, the Monkees, I know.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I knew that.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I grew up on the Monkees.
I used to watch that show allthe time when I was a kid.
I'm excited that I know thatI'm excited that you knew a song
.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Okay, let's leave these folks.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Well.
I suppose, All right, buffoons.
That's it for today's episode.
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oh, hey there, oh hey there.
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I have a headache me too.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
What the what?
And I, I'm a medicine personlike I can take a tylenol and
advil and ibuprofen and all that, but you, you don't.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I mean I can take them, I just don't take them.
I know I just never have been afan.
It's probably because my momshoved me full of meds for my
whole youth.
I'm just kidding, she reallydidn't um, but even back then,
like I didn't like taking ummedicine we always had uh, how
did my dad word it?
He said cool bat and meds likecool whip.
(00:48):
For somebody who said cool bator at least that's how I always
heard it so to get us to takemedicine when we were little
they would get my mom always hadcool whip.
Sounds great it was and shewould.
And pills were a lot differentback then, so they were a lot
more chalky yeah, likedissolving or whatever, so they
(01:08):
weren't really nasty, yeah, soshe would get a spoon um, scoop
some cool up on it and thenshove the pills in there.
And that's how we took ourpills.
Nice, yeah, because we mom, Iknow we weren't very good pill
takers back in the day.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, I don't really remember much about that in my
youth, but that's par for thecourse.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You don't really remember much of your adult life
either.
I know you wake up and like Iexist.
Yay, look at me.
I'm a real burr.
I was going to say boy, butthen I'm like girl.
I'm a real burr.
I'm just gonna say boy, butthen I'm like girl.
I'm like I'm a real burl I'm areal burl that was.
Uh, that was an attempt toquote pinocchio, but at the same
(01:56):
time, I'm like oh jesus, I'mkilling her with laughter oh my
gosh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So, hey, real burl, my bad.
Well, I take.
So I'm really good at takingpills now because I can take
like a whole handful in one gulpif you will.
I have to have water, though.
The movies that they show youtaking pills without water, that
is bullshit.
Yeah, because they probably justgive them like a tic tac and
it's fucking it's not realisticno, it's not realistic at all I
mean I would choke on those askme how I know how do you know?
(02:31):
I've choked on them beforewithout water experience okay,
so I have a new beer, new to mebeer.
Um, so this is from ThreeSheeps Like blah blah, black
sheep, not to be confused withsheets.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes, sir, three bags full.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So Three Sheeps.
It is a brewery that I've beento.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
What did you call it in the last podcast?
Brew-ering yeah brewery, thisis the new brewing.
What did you call it in thelast podcast?
That was a brewing like a yeahbrewing.
This is the new brewing.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm like um so three sheeps is in sheboygan,
wisconsin, and I've been thereum a couple of times, but it's
like this big warehouse lookingthing that they just have like a
bunch of picnic tables out thatyou can.
There's no food or anything,it's just the bar and then a ton
of picnic tables and then theirentire wall of the building
(03:30):
opens up.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So you, it's like a patio type thing, but it's very
like, which is minimal it's coolthat, that you know the opens
up and whatever, but I'm not abig fan of all these places.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
There's so many just like cookie cutter warehouses
going up and whether it's a, abrewing or a whatever business,
it's just like there's no likeimagination for your businesses
anymore with these buildingsyeah it's all just like hey,
here's a box, exist in there Idon't mind the three sheep's one
, because you can like bring inyour own food, like they don't
(04:03):
care about that well, yeah,because they obviously they
don't you know uh sell any.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So I mean, that totally makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But so the only beer that I remember liking at three
sheeps was their amber, I thinkit's called oh boy I don't know.
Oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh.
I know I'm just not very wellversed in them.
I don't remember now, but thisone is a juicy pale ale called
(04:30):
fresh coast and if you rememberfrom a previous podcast, she did
not have a good go-around on.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Uh, we don't have to rub their name in it anymore.
Oh sorry, or promote it forthat matter, kiwina.
Either way, you're going out ofyour comfort zone.
It's not a lager.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, so we'll see how that works.
What do you got?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Just to be 100% transparent, here she has a
Modelo at the ready.
Oh, I fuck, yeah, I do and it isopen it's ready to go it is
open it's basically like achaser, just in case it doesn't
go well this time, like thatthat one time.
But all right, I have a uh,third space brewing.
(05:19):
Uh, they're out of milwaukee,wisconsin.
I know of them.
I don't think I've everactually had one of their beers
before, but I went hardcore.
I have their Infinite Wisdom,which I thought was kind of
fitting for a history podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Sure Because we don't have it.
They're aiming pretty high, butokay.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, I mean it never ends.
See what I did there.
It's infinite Shut up.
It took me a second, I know itdid.
I could tell the dribble had tolike.
Oh, it's my time to shine.
Run on the wheel or the mouseor whatever it's running around
in your brain.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The cogs.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah.
No or whatever it's runningaround in your brain.
The cogs, yeah, no, who?
Am I kidding.
There's a hamster up there.
That's what it is, but it's animperial ipa nine percent
alcohol by volume mine's only a4.2 or so, eight, oh that's,
that's a higher okay, are weready?
Yeah, here we go oh, that wasso like in tandem yeah, it
(06:26):
almost like shut down my earsfor a second through the
headphones.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That was weird oh okay, I like mine the juicy,
pale, ale fresh coast from threesheeps for being a nine percent
.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You would not guess that that's pretty good good
yeah, awesome, very nice, welldone we have some winners uh
well, I mean, last time we werestill batting, you know 500,
mine was good, yours not so muchso you ready for a story?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
it's not really a story, it's more of just a
lesson really.
Oh, you have a lesson plannedfor me.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I kind of do okay yeah I hope I'm ready for that I
think you'll enjoy it I wouldimagine, I will it is um about
how the pyramids were built.
The speculation of how theywere built.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
No, you're not wrong.
Like there's not like solid,solid proof.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Definitive proof.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, but they no longer think it was from like
slaves.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It was aliens, 100% that's been documented?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
By what conspiracy?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
theorist.
I don't have enough time toname all those people because
there's a lot of them.
I think out there ancientaliens I think that's a show on
history channel I know you'reright, you're right okay, so so
are you going to teach us howthey like did the track around
the top of it and everything?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Kind of yeah, cool, yeah, I'm going to tell you some
things.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And I'm going to learn.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You're going to get schooled on pyramids from Chiron
.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I hated school.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I know, but we like history, so here we are.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That's why we're doing it.
Just because I hated schooldoesn't mean I didn't like
things from it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I liked history, I liked math and I liked leaving.
I liked graduation.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Graduation was great.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So the pyramids of Cairo were considered the
world's first skyscrapers.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mean, they were the tallest structure in the world
for a long time right.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Built 2,000 years before Christ.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Christ was built.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I feel like that's a song.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
What?
2,000 years before Christ.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Christ was built.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We can write one.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Won't be very good.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I can play drums.
You could write it, I'll singit.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I could write the drums.
I can play drums you couldwrite it.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'll sing it I could write the drums.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I can't play guitar, okay, let's move on.
Or keyboard, I am not a pianist.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Okay, so the Great Pyramid, the big guy, right.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
At Giza.
Yeah, yeah, so that one stands481 feet tall, which is funny
because you think about it nowlike skyscrapers that we have,
it's like that's not very big481 feet tall I think it's
pretty big yeah, it's big.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
There are 2.3 million blocks, some all the way up to
50 tons in weight what is thewidth of the base?
Um, I have it written heresomewhere, but it's a number and
I don't remember shit, so I'lllet you know when I read it I'm
gonna edit that out so that'sfine.
(09:55):
So there were also.
So in all it was six milliontons of bricks, which is equal
to 16 Empire State Buildings.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Wow, so is that for all three pyramids, Just the
Great Pyramid?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, Nice, okay, here's the answer to your
question.
Oh, hey, look at this.
The sides of the pyramid are755 feet in length.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And, amazingly enough , they only vary within two
inches.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Right, isn't that?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
wild, they're so precise.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, yeah, because obviously all three line up with
Orion's belt.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That is speculation.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
yes, Well, I mean it does.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yes, but they don't know if that's the reason for
right.
Right, that's a speculation andlike how?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
like, yeah, what well , I'll let you talk, because I
don't want to like, in case youhave some of the stuff yeah, so
inside the burial chambers theblocks are so precise that even
a credit card cannot slipthrough the supposed burial
burial chambers yes, soarchaeologists use dynamite
(11:14):
dynamite to blast their waythrough the pyramids, which is
sad, I know, and that actuallydisrupted potential clues on how
the pyramids were.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, that's why it's sad, because because, they
don't know what they blew upbecause they blew it up, and so
now we're using non-invasivetechnology.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, we have a lot better equipment these days,
because they found them how manyyears ago?
Obviously They've been aroundfor a long time where these
people started exploring andthey're like, fuck it, blow it
up.
I know.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So trial and error pyramids were actually built
around 2600 BCE off the NileRiver One, the first one that
they made is called the StepPyramid of Saqqara.
It's the oldest stone quoteunquote building on Earth.
Okay, stone quote-unquotebuilding on earth.
Okay, so it's writing rising204 feet from the desert sands,
(12:08):
which was a breakthrough in thehistory of construction.
Sure makes sense.
It didn't have any smoothsloping sides, but instead rose
in a series of levels or stepsright.
So the first flat-sided truepyramids were built 60 years
later by the pharaoh Nufru.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Nufru.
Yeah, how do you spell that?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
S-N-E-F-E-R-U, or Sneferu, sneferu I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
All right, that is a heck of a name.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, but his son, khufu, built the uh-huh, built
the great pyramid.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
what a guy yeah, well , he had people build it for him
.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
He didn't do it yes, and then there were, um, a
series of smaller, highlydecorated pyramids that were
later built at sakara, right.
So the ancient archaeologistsmapped out the location of the
pyramids with with a lot of careand precision.
Oh yeah, they needed afoundation that could handle the
six million tons of limestone.
(13:14):
Yep, so they mapped out thepoints of the compass north,
south, east, west so that eachside aligned with the direction,
isn.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Isn't that crazy.
It's so amazing and there's adegree of error, but it's so
minute how close they actuallygot to true north and all that
stuff.
It's wild how precise they wereback then.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So they followed the path of the stars as it rose and
fell, and then chose the midwaypoint, and that was true north.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
They were off true north by a 20th of a degree.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Isn't that wild.
To be that precise again atthat time in our history is just
crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And in my head I'm thinking'm thinking, okay, if I
stayed in this spot, where is mylocal walmart that is north?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
or if you look at my house, my this room slopes into
that corner uh-huh that's been.
This house has only been up for183 years or whatever.
That's been up for thousandsand it's like, yeah, we're good,
yeah, but no thanks house yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So modern foundations are leveled with lasers.
But British engineer DennisStocks, who is an expert in
ancient Egyptian constructiontechniques, thinks that the
Egyptians used water in a sortof channel.
Okay, so along each of the 755foot side of the pyramid they
(14:51):
would create a channel withwater which acted like a level.
So then they would etch aroundit, maintaining the water's
level that's wild yeah, soyou've got a ditch right yeah
filled with water.
Then you chisel away the earthuntil the water is level.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, I've never heard of that before that's
crazy, that is crazy.
I mean that's brilliant becausethe water is going to find the
the flat surface, if you will,whatever, yeah, yeah, wow, I
didn't know that that's.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's pretty interesting so for each 2.3
million blocks, they likelycreated a type of a frame that
has a crossbar and a plumb linedown the center.
Okay, so right behind the plumbline is a scored line in the
wood of the crossbar.
(15:43):
Okay, so the plumb line and thethe uh, the scored line should
be exactly the same right so, ifyou think of the capital letter
a, the a-frame was likely madeof wood and had a string hanging
from the center of the top ofthe a and then a weight was
attached to the other end of thestring, and when the a frame
(16:06):
was placed on an uneven surface,the weight or the plumb string
would move the string in onedirection or the other can I ask
a question?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
yeah, what did they call it back then?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
because they didn't have the letter a where do you
come up with these questions?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay, I came up with like A-frame and I don't know
what it's actually called JeezLouise.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well, I didn't know, just curious Inquiring minds
want to know.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
They just called it a level.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Okay, I'm sorry.
Oh, my god Didn't mean toderail you there.
My bad, I saw it.
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
So the markings on the crossbeam the a indicated
indicated how far off center thesurface was.
Okay.
So to make it easier to seewhen the string was hanging
straight down, the wood near thestring was attached to the
frame could be notched out orhave a vertical marking.
So what they did in place ofone leg of the a.
So what they did is they placedone leg of the a on a flat
surface of water.
Then they would square out thelime stone rocks until the plum
(17:15):
line matched up with the scoreline.
Sure?
no, that makes sense you want tosee a picture of it, sure, okay
, what's it look like to you?
It looks like a pyramid aletter a oh, maybe it was a
pyramid frame back then no, it'sthe letter a yeah, I see that
with a plumb line and it's atlike a 90 degree point yes, okay
(17:40):
, anywho so, over the course of500 years, 18 pyramids were
built.
That's a long time 500 years,18 pyramids.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Well, I mean, it's not like they were built.
Rome wasn't built in a day,neither was the pyramids.
I mean it took a while.
I mean that's a shit ton ofrock.
That is that they got to move.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So I mean, they took literally what decades to make.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Literally.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Centuries.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Or that too.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, so near Cairo is a quarry with high quality
limestone and they used copperto chisel away the limestone.
But copper is a soft metal thatcan bend or blunt easily
correct so they're like how doesthat work?
(18:39):
Egyptian copper had traceamounts of arsenic so what did
that do to it?
That made the copper much moredurable and stronger.
And then it's pure form really,and they would use more broad
copper chisels and woodenmallets for rough work and then
(18:59):
they would use like pointed forcopper chisels for yeah, exactly
okay so limestone is relativelysoft, but in the chambers of
the pyramid they used granite.
Copper chisels were useless.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, against granite , for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, and ironworking wasn't around yet.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So how did they cut granite so perfectly Lasers?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You ready for this?
I don't know if I am, becauseit sounds pretty profound.
They did use copper.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
What.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's like you tried to lead us off but went right
back to it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
Did you get like whiplash?
No, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I got worse headache.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So they actually used a copper saw with no teeth oh
man, they just gummed their waythrough it oh god sorry oh my
god.
So how did they cut it?
(20:03):
Using copper saw with no teeth?
They used sand.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So the quartz crystals in sand gets embedded
into the soft copper and the sawdrags those crystals back and
forth Wow, and actually does thecutting.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's weird, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So now, cutting granite this way took an hour to
cut just two cubic inches.
Oh geez, so it would take fourmonths to just two cubic inches.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh geez.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So it would take four months to just create a
sarcophagus.
Wow, with that technique.
Isn't that crazy, that's a longtime.
They would literally just poursalt in the area that they're
trying to cut away.
And then they had this bigtwo-person copper.
Saw that would chisel the sand.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You mean sand, they poured.
You said salt sorry, yes, sand.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Where did I come up with sand salt?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
you're probably hungry, and then you put salt on
everything I do.
Thanks, hubby yeah, yourhusband really got you into salt
, lots of salt, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
So anyway, so, based in the quarry, they would
transport their blocks on boatsthat they built for the Nile
Right, and then they wouldcreate an oil slick on land to
move the blocks.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
To basically slide them across.
Yeah, so I guess I'm unfamiliarwith that part of the territory
.
Were they rich in oil overthere?
I mean they have apparently, ifthey can make like a oil slick
just to slide them across yeah,I don't know that's weird, I
(21:41):
never, never knew that but Imean, they got copper and they
got limestone.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Why can't they have oil?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Might as well, give them some cake too.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
So as far as how they chose the pyramid shape, they
knew it would have to besupported by a wide base and a
low center of gravity.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay, and more than two-thirds of the weight has to
be at the bottom right.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
So some say it's this shape to replicate the way the
sun peaks out under a cloud,when there's like a resulting
triangle sunbeam okay um.
So they built the firstflat-sided pyramid with a
55-degree angle using a solidstone foundation, but only on
(22:34):
the edges of the pyramid.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So it was just basically like the perimeter.
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
The inside of the base was clay.
As the pyramid rose in size,the clay would buckle underneath
and the inside chamber startedto crack.
That would make sense.
So mid build they changed theangle from 55 degrees to 43
degrees, which reduced theheight of the pyramid by 100
(23:02):
feet and the weight by 400 000tons.
It's a lot of tons.
This pyramid is called the bentpyramid and it still stands.
That's a shit ton.
So lesson learned, right?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I guess the great pyramid was built at 45 degrees
why they had the two I thinkthey were testing the waters, or
or they're like well, that'shalf a 90-degree angle.
Let's do that.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
So it is considered the most shallow pyramid, but
also the only true smooth-sidedpyramid still standing today.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Because it used to have what was the surface they
put on it.
It's all gone by now, but wasthat limestone as well?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, it's also limestone.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, which I talk about here.
So archaeologists surmise thatonce at the quarry they built a
ramp to transport the limestone.
So they built a ramp up to thepyramid summit.
But what type of ramp?
Because they still don't knowwhat kind.
But there are three potentialways.
One is to build a ramp straightto the top which makes no sense
(24:09):
that would be really eitherreally really long exactly steep
, and that's the thing.
It couldn't be steep because ofthe weight of those rocks yeah
obviously guys aren't going tobe pushing those up there or
pulling or both so another umway is a ramp in the form of
like an airline queue line,where it zigzags up one side of
(24:33):
the pyramid.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I hope their third one's the one that I saw.
It's more recent and they'repretty sure that's how it was.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
A spiral going all the way around.
Yeah, yes, like a spiralstaircase.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
At least the thing I saw, which I don't think was
very old.
I just saw it that not thatlong ago.
They think that they discoveredthat more recently, kind of
thing because, everyone thoughtit was just a ramp straight up
to top, like the first one.
You said yeah, and like thatjust doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, because that that rampwould have to be like miles long
, right, right, especially whenit gets to the higher peak.
(25:10):
I guess.
But yeah, the one I saw, it'slike yeah, goes around, spirals
up to the top, and then theykind of work their way back in
where they fill it in, toeliminate it, because they're
like, well, why can't we see it?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Well, because they filled it in, which makes sense
so the internal limestone blockswere rough and unfinished
looking and they filled thecracks with mortar and limestone
chippings.
But the exterior blocks thoseseen um are perfectly finished
yeah, they were smoothed out orsawed better, I guess.
So inside the chamber theblocks, those were granite,
(25:51):
right yeah.
So how did they make them soprecise?
Great question.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Do tell.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
They used two dowels tied together with string.
Okay, okay, pulling it taut,they would use that as a level.
Then a third dowel in the samesize would be used as a guide
along the top string.
Okay, if the dowel was abovethe string, they would mark that
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spot of the stone with apigment called red ochre, and
the builders would find thatmark and use a flint scraper to
scrape away the high point andand the red ochre would get
scraped off with it right,really yeah wow they're on
little level they're on thelevel here they are.
(26:39):
So across the now there was evenbetter limestone, and the
egyptians used this limestone asa type of smooth coating on the
pyramids which you mentioned.
Yeah, so back in that time itlooked white, correct, it was
almost blinding in the sunlight.
Yeah, so these facing stones,sadly, have been taken to build
mosques and castles in cairoyeah, it was basically like it
(27:01):
was pillaged and used for otherthings.
Yeah, pretty much but a fewremnants still remain at one of,
like the peak of the pyramids.
Okay, so they would finish fromthe top of the pyramid down and
then the ramps would be likedismantled as the work was
completed, as you had mentionedyep.
So with the help of acontractor, craig smith, who has
(27:25):
operated and overseen vastamounts of construction sites,
he estimated how much money itwould take to build the pyramid.
Oh geez, four billion dollarsand four years they could do it
in four years.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Wow four, no, no, now that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So if we could build it now, it would take $4 billion
in four years.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's what I'm saying, though I'm surprised
it's still that quick today.
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
The Egyptians.
It took them 23 years to buildthe Great Pyramid.
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's way quicker than I thought.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And then they had 18 of them to boot.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well over 500 years so listen to this.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
That would equate to placing a block.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Placing a block every two minutes and this is for the
four year time frame, or forthem, for them, okay it would be
.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
it would take place in a block every two minutes,
270 blocks every single day for23 years Holy crap.
And then we're going to buildanother 17.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah.
So do you think they placed thelast block and the guys are
like, ah, look at that, goodwork.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And then the boss comes up, the next pharaoh's
like.
All right, the pharaoh comes up.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
looks good guys, we're going to put another one
right over there.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And they're like motherfucker.
Well, that brings me to theworkers.
So a lot of legends claim thatit was slaves that built the
pyramids.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I've seen the Ten Commandments.
I know.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
But they were wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, that's actually another thing I've seen
recently too.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So it was thought that the pharaoh would never
have forced his own people tobuild year after year.
Thought that the pharaoh wouldnever have forced his own people
to build year after year.
Right, and instead, potentially, israelites were used as slave
slave labor.
However, egyptologist dr zahihawass discovered tombs of the
(29:23):
builders located just in theshadows of the pyramids in 1990.
Oh wow, really.
There was like this little lostcity.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Of tombs.
Yeah, I'm sure people died allthe time working on these.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
If they were slaves, they wouldn't be buried near the
pyramid oh God no.
And their chambers wouldn't beornate, which these were.
So it was considered to be anhonor to be buried there.
So they knew they were notslaves.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Did it describe how they were ornate, like what they
included, or was it just like?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It was more like carvings on the door frames and
that kind of thing.
Sure, that makes sense.
So with the help of forensics,the builders in these tombs were
examined.
From the bones bones they couldsee that they actually had
medical treatment oh, wow theyhad.
Their bones had like beensettled like um set.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yes, after a break or something.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yes, not settled, but , yes, setting um, and one even
had brain surgery.
Oh really yeah.
And they and they know thatslaves would never have this
kind of treatment.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
No, they would have let them die because they were
replaceable.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So near these tombs they excavated a new site, which
was the discovery of thebuilder's town.
The builders received generousamounts of food, fish, meat and
even beer, huzzah and they wereconsidered very important.
So let's cheers to that Cheersto the workers.
(30:57):
What happened to your otherbeer?
He's on a line in Kugel now.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I finished it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh shit, I'm talking too much.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I know.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, so they were considered like middle
management.
Um, but even they had what?
No, sorry, I'm like the middlemanagement of of the builders,
so like they still had theirtiers of management quote
unquote.
Yeah, do you think theymicromanaged back then those?
(31:25):
They were treated even better.
They had tons of fresh meatsapparently so they were also
unskilled workers um that soundsterrible.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Do you got any of those unskilled workers I can
have.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
They're not very good , that's all right so, um, many
of them were, um, as working asmilitary service, oh okay, who
were meant to build rather thanfight gotcha?
So the biggest theory of whythey built the pyramids was to
entomb the pharaohs, which iswrong.
However, no pharaoh has everbeen discovered and not a single
(32:04):
mummy has ever been found in aburial chamber, correct?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
that's like, and it's funny because like they call it
the king's chamber and I think,there's also a queen's chamber
if I'm not mistaken but nothingwas found in that I mean, there
has even been literature andhieroglyphics that claim that it
was a burial ground for theking, but they've never found
anything but they're, they'rethe, if I remember right, the
(32:29):
pyramids are like pretty devoidof like like you go to um valley
of the kings where, like, kingtut was buried and you found,
you know, his tomb and stuff.
There's shit all on the wallsand so on, whatever.
There's like nothing inside thepyramids, not like that, at
least.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
So so in 1879, there was a workman that was traveling
, walking along the pyramids,and he followed a jackal into a
hole, oh, near the pyramid ofsakara.
Okay, upon entering, he found achamber where, where the walls
(33:09):
were covered with hieroglyphs.
This is actually going to beconsidered the oldest religious
text in egypt.
Ok, so these writings did nottell us how the pyramids were
made, but why they were made okand they were meant to turn men
into gods.
Oh so turning the dead into aliving spirit, hmm.
A mummified pharaoh would becarried into his tomb with food,
(33:34):
clothes, jewels and treasureseverything he would need in the
afterlife Of course, because youknow you need jewels Mm-hmm.
And the Egyptians believed thatthe afterlife was like this one
, but much better.
Well, if you're a god, yeah,yeah so today the great pyramid
of giza has actually lost 30feet in height, really so has it
(33:59):
sunk yeah?
however, at this rate, it wouldtake another 65 000 years for
the pyramid to disappear fromthe cairo skyline well, can't
wait to see that happen so mostof my um material came from a um
, a youtube video.
(34:19):
Oh really, yeah.
So it was called the pyramidsof egypt, how and why they were
built, and it is directed byYo-Him Sampson and narrated by
Eric Myers.
It is very, very, very welldone.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I highly recommend it .
But that will be linked in ourshow notes.
But that is how the pyramidswere built.
Isn't that really fascinating?
The tools in particular reallyfascinated me.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
The saw, the copper saw with the sand, yeah, or salt
the copper saw with the sandyeah.
Or salt, whatever you had onhand.
But sometimes they put a littlepepper on there, maybe some
paprika.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Paprika smoked, of course.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
So there's obviously a billion theories about why,
how, whatever.
Um, because, like some of themand I'm not going to get this
anywhere close to what it is,but it's like one one theory is
how they like basicallyharnessed energy through it.
(35:19):
I don't remember all thespecifics, I'm not a smart
person, but it's like some ofthe shit to talk about is like I
can see that, yeah, but I'm nota scientist, I don't know.
But there's so many just wildtheories.
I mean obviously, like we saidbefore, the aliens Aliens did it
(35:40):
.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, so there was a guy that noticed that it
followed Orion's belt, butthere's no justification on why
they built it like that well, orif it was just a coincidence,
but it seems really weird to bea coincidence, because it's like
, yeah, it's not in a straightline.
(36:02):
No, the three pyramids are likeone is off center a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Right, it's way too Holy shit.
Look at that To be, like well,man, we got lucky there.
It's like, yeah, I don't.
I just I feel like that's aweak thing, saying it's not.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, part of it.
Yeah, in some way.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, cause it's too precise for that.
My only thing is too is like,because I mean again, that's
what would you say.
When was it built?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So that's another thing too it was 2600 BCE.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So they're saying 4600 years ago.
The star skyline is differentas well.
It moves, it varies, it evolves, whatever you want to call it.
So that's why, like, I thinkthere's even a service where you
could be, like I was here onthis date and so on, like I can
print you a map of the stars onthat exact day or whatever- yeah
(37:02):
but, um, you would think therewould be different, but
obviously there's still somesimilarities.
Stars last for a long time andtheir light shines through for a
long time, until it justdoesn't because they died
millions of years ago, whatever,I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Just it's fascinating because you're never really
gonna know I know but like justin 1990 they found that little
lost city where the builderswould sleep, where they hang out
yeah, it's just what.
Have you ever seen the movieout?
Yeah, it's just what.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Have you ever seen the movie Stargate?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
No.
Oh, it's a great movie Is thatwith Katie Sackhoff.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
No From Battlestar Galactica.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Are you impressed that I know who that is?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I can't believe you actually knew someone's name.
I do okay with actors andactresses names and movies, but
I'm well, relatively decent.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
No, it's with uh, kurt russell I know who that is,
thank you james spader, I alsoknow who that is.
I like his voice a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, he's ultron yes he is ultron and he's in the
show boston legal, which ispretty funny he was also uh,
denigrating uh, robertcalifornia in the show Boston
Legal, which is pretty funny.
He was also Dina Croy, robertCalifornia, in the Office after
Steve Carell's character left.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Oh, I have not seen that.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I think that was his name, Robert California.
That sounds right.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I could be wrong.
He's got a great voice.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
He does have a little deeper such.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, but very articulate.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Stuart French was in it.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I don't know that one .
Speaker 2 (38:31):
He's got the weird face he was in.
Uh, what was he?
The third rock from the sun guy?
I never watched that show, butoh man I think he was in that oh
, how was that kid's name?
Speaker 1 (38:42):
he's in the bat the batman movies joseph gordon
levin.
Yeah, joseph gordon levin, hewas on that show, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I'm pretty sure that was Stuart French was the one in
that show.
Again, I could be wrong, Inever actually watched that show
, but basically the premise ofthe movie.
I really liked the movie and itspawned multiple, multiple TV
shows and yes, question overthere.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, my hand raised.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I saw.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
What are?
Yeah, my hand raised, I sawwhat are we?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
talking about again stargate, right.
So it's not a tv show, it's amovie.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It was a movie first.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Oh okay, so we're talking about the movie and, as
I stated, it spawned multiple,multiple tv shows.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh god, I gotta got it you understand yeah, I was
drinking my beer, sorry oh, myword okay, yes, continue but
basically, what, what, what?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
the premise of the movie is um aliens.
This alien was dying.
He found this race, humans, onthis other planet, not earth and
um to last last longer, he puthis body, his mind or whatever
in his body, so on.
(39:50):
But then they had this stargatethat they could transport
between two worlds, which wasstar gate yeah, it's literally
in the name star portal oh mystar walkway star bridge star
bridge yes, yeah, star path starsidewalk oh, my word.
(40:13):
What have I done?
Star road star strangle me starpavement there's a in mario
kart, there's a.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Starbridge, that's Rainbow.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Road, rainbow Bridge yeah, whatever, rainbow Bridge
is what they also refer to aswhat Thor took from Planet to.
Planet, yeah, yeah, yeah, butanyway, it's a really good movie
.
I enjoy it.
I actually watched it, I thinklike two or three weeks ago.
I put it on rotation from timeto time.
(40:49):
However, I will say and thiswas it came out in the 90s, I
don't remember exactly what year, but James Spader's sneezing is
so fake in that movie it'sreally bad.
I like the actor, I like therest of the movie, but, man,
come on, it just didn't work forme in that.
(41:09):
Sorry, james, jimmy jimmy, butgood work otherwise, keep it up.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, you know you know what I want to watch right
now what's that the?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
mummy that's a good movie.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
We've mentioned before about that was one of my
go-to yeah sleep movies, so yeah, yeah, brandon fraser is just,
he's a, he's a treasure, he is atreasure I know that is a great
, great uh word to to describehim.
Yes, he is a treasure.
I've always really liked him.
(41:44):
I used to have a ringtone backwhen I had a Nokia phone, so it
was the beeps yeah.
But you could still uploadaudio clips.
Oh really, yeah, and one of myringtones was Brendan Fraser's
voice.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Was it really?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I was obsessed with Brendan Fraser and Colin Firth
and I'm not as obsessed, butthey are still very high on my
fan, on my my list of favoriteactors.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
okay, I met damon I met damon, but I, I love, I love
me some brittan fraser oh yeah,for sure I've liked him in a
lot of things.
Uh, I never really got behindthe whole encino man, but I've
only seen it and that was like30 years ago.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
It's a great movie.
Let's watch that.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I don't own that movie.
I wonder if it's on a streamingplatform.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Perhaps Perhaps.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yes, but no, yeah I enjoy him a lot.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Arnold Vosloo yes, he's very sexy in that movie too
.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, yeah, who does he play Imhotep?
There you go.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, I can quote that movie.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Oh, so can.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I it's pretty ingrained in the brain Crazy and
sane Got no brain.
Ingrained in the membrane.
Oh, Okay so should we move onto the idiom that you have
prepared.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
That you have prepared.
That you have prepared.
Oh, my word, yeah, why don't wedo that?
Floors for most people weredirt, yes, back a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Only wealthy people had something other than dirt.
Why?
What do you think came fromthat?
What term do you think camefrom that?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Dirt poor.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Correct the wealth.
Huzzah, I got one About fuckingtime Been here for weeks.
The wealthy would usually haveslate floors.
This is the part.
Slate rich I didn't say that butwhich would get slippery in the
winter when the floors wouldget wet Because obviously
(44:00):
tracking in snow, rain, whatever, because of this, they would
put thresh, otherwise strawFancy word for straw and in a
way they would put that down onthe floor to keep their footing
so they wouldn't be all slippingon sliding.
As the winter wore on, theywould add more thresh until you
(44:22):
open the door and it all startsslipping outside okay okay, a
piece of wood was placed in theentranceway, subsequently
creating a threshold.
That's why we have thresholds,thresholds, because it literally
held my mind is blown, slowsyour face, apparently.
(44:46):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (44:53):
That's shock and awe.
It's shock for her for surethresh is a type of straw.
I mean it's, yeah, it's justbasically a oh, it's another
name for straw for as far as Ican ascertain.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yes, threshold yeah.
So that's how, that's where weget threshold from.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
That's awesome okay, so what is your final decision
on your?
What was it again?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
oh, my third space beer third space yeah infinite
wisdom, which we all strive forbut we'll never obtain.
It was really good um again forbeing a nine percent abv um,
especially because usuallytypically an imperial ipa is
going to be higher alcoholvolume.
Just the makeup of those typeof beers, it was really good.
(45:43):
I really enjoyed it.
I just I would never haveguessed if you gave me this in a
pint glass and said, here, trythis.
I would have known it's a paleale or an IPA.
I would have never guessed it's9%.
It was very smooth, verydelicious, very nice.
So yeah, I really enjoyed it.
What about you with your juicypale ale?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Rebel Kent.
Oh, I got there Three Sheeps.
Has an amber called Rebel Kent.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
It only took the whole episode, but hey, it
really did.
I knew the word rebel was in it, figured it out and that one I
do enjoy.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
But this one um the juicy pale ale called fresh
coast is is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I really, I really like it well, that's fantastic
to hear, because you know yourlast one wasn't so uh, so ideal
maybe I should write down whatbeers I liked, so that when I'm
like, which beer do I buy next?
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I'd be like I think I got the kiwani one before, but
I don't remember if I liked itwell, and that's the thing with
your memory.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
You might pick it up again like oh, this is new, I
should try this yeah and then mytaste buds would be like bitch.
You've been here before yeah,why you bring us back to this
place.
We don't like it here.
So so with the pyramids, though, did you did the video talk
about the sphinx at all?
No, okay, nope, because there'salso rumors of that being older
(47:06):
than what they think it is, andit was there prior to possibly
the pyramids, or the Egyptiansfound these things.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I do know, did you?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
ever read or hear anything like that?
No, okay.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I do know that when the guy is chiseling out the
nose of the Sphinx that JasmineAladdin flew by and really
startled the guy.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
As soon as you started talking about that, I
knew you were going to dosomething stupid.
Oh my god, I can't believe Ididn't just stop recording.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
It's fine, everything's fine.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Thousands of years of erosion.
No it was Jasmine and Aladdin.
It's fine, everything's fine.
Thousands of years of erosion.
No, it was just.
It was jasmine and aladdin dudetrying to look up jasmine's
blouse or whatever the hell shewas wearing.
What?
Those weird pants, thosebillowy pants?
They're like mc hammer pantsbefore they were mc hammer pants
yeah, but that they'rehistorically accurate.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I mean, it is Disney, they do their research.
That was sarcasm, folks.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I know, I know it was , but I'm glad you pointed it
out for Al because he might nothave picked up on that?
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Is he a believer?
Speaker 2 (48:19):
He's a believer.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
I'm a believer.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Please.
We almost made it through afucking podcast without you
singing and you ruined it.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Well, I gotta do it.
I just wanna dance, anyways, Iknow who that song was
originally by.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
The Monkees, the Monkees, I know.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I knew that.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I grew up on the Monkees.
I used to watch that show allthe time when I was a kid.
I'm excited that I know thatI'm excited that you knew a song
.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Okay, let's leave these folks.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Well.
I suppose, All right, buffoons.
That's it for today's episode.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Buckle up, because we've got another historical
adventure waiting for you.
Next time Feeling hungry formore buffoonery, or maybe you
have a burning question or awild historical theory for us to
explore.
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