June 15, 2025 • 48 mins
Singaporean comedian Jacky Ng just proposed to his girlfriend at Hong Kong Disneyland! Host Vivek Mahbubani chats with Jacky about all the creative and clever ways people rent out their public housing units, the Singapore comedy scene, the "shock" of performing in more politically correct markets, and all the secrets to a perfect marriage proposal at Hong Kong Disneyland.
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So I reiterate here, the bill isdead.
The story of this great city is about the years before this
night. Hey everyone, this is Ho Ho Hong
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Kong with me, Vivek Mohabani. And today there is no MO which
means the quality just upgraded by 200%.
But instead I have myself a guest coming all the way from
Singapore, which means he was just four and something hours
away from Hong Kong. It is Jackie or Jackie Ung,
depending on which way you want to say it.
I usually say ung. Ung Yeah.
We'll be respectful on this podcast and call you Jackie Ung
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just for the sake of it. Just call me Jackie.
You don't say my last name everysingle time, Mr. Ung.
So, Jackie, just in case you missed out, he actually came to
Hong Kong, did his headline showat Base Hall.
Yeah. Just a couple of days before you
recorded a part of the backstageheadliner show nights.
Secondly, Mohammed, however, after seeing the show, probably
for some reason decided I don't want to hang with Jackie
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anymore. He's a guy, you know.
I got what I needed him for you for.
Why are we still talking? He's done the show.
I haven't paid him, so yeah. He's like you.
Can go roam Hong Kong now. Exactly.
You figure it out now, you know,help my GDP, then we'll talk
about helping your GDP as well. But Jackie just gives everybody
a bit of background. You based in Singapore,
obviously, and I've known you for many, many years.
Because of course, when we have the Singapore scene, what would
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happen is a lot of times I wouldcome down there to do shows on a
weekday or whatever and we'll meet the Singapore crew.
You're one of them. And I believe in the last year
or two years ago you came down to Melbourne as well for the
Melbourne International Coming Festival.
So that was the first time I metyou in Melbourne?
It was my first time in Melbourne was two years ago.
Exactly. Yeah, Yeah.
So we we met up and I believe you didn't have your show at
that time. However, you did something a lot
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of Hong Kong comedians don't do,which is you actually decided
I'm gonna go there purely for educational purposes and go
check out how the Melbourne Comedy Festival is.
Yeah, so I mean, Jason Leung wasthe guy that really encouraged
us to do that. He was just like, come down to
Melbourne, he'll give us his. Crew pass yes yes yes and the
crew pass means you can watch any show as long as they're.
Any sheets? Exactly.
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Yeah. And that is honestly that is
just so valuable Like if a comedian if you just show up and
you just have that pass, you feel so powerful.
Absolutely because there's just so many amazing shows to watch
and. But also at the same time, it's,
it's not like there is no stage time.
As long as you're hanging out, stage time comes your way
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because it's such a massive festival.
Yeah, there's 600 shows happening throughout the month.
It's insane. And you get, you get 5 minutes,
10 minutes. You, you, it's, it's a great
time. So you should really, you're
saying no, none of the Hong Kongcommunities are doing this.
I haven't, they haven't flown themselves down or just to go
check it out. I've offered like the crew
passes, but I understand, you know, Hong Kong rent is very
high, blah, blah, blah, all thatstuff.
Yeah. That hasn't happened much there.
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However, was there a, is the Singapore comedy scene something
encouraging where you're like, man, I, I want to go explore
this place. Or did you go to Australia just
because you're closer to the Australia than Hong Kong is to
Australia? Like what?
What? What made you want to go other
than Jason Leung telling you hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm famous,
you know? But Jason Leung told me to do
that. I'm like, OK.
And I think when we first start out doing comedy, we hear about
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the Melbourne Comedy Festival and you're like, I like to check
it out. Sometimes, yeah, sure.
Yeah. Yeah, right.
And it's just, and so when, whenthe opportunity came up, I have
enough money saved up that I, I can't afford to go on this trip.
I found out I have friends living in Melbourne so I can
crash on. It I like how you like I found
out I have friends living in Melbourne.
It's like, yeah, you know, I not, I realized not I connected,
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but I found out. Oh shit, I have friends over
there. Yeah, that some of my friends
that's. Usually not the not the order of
of things that happen. You have friends who happen to
be there. Not I found out I have friends
who are there. Well, it's I in Singapore, you
go through school, you go to NS,the army, Yeah.
And then, you know, over time you just lose track of all of
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them. That's very true.
Yeah. And then and then you go on
Instagram and you're like, oh, this guy is actually here.
It's same thing happened in in Hong Kong.
Oh, yeah. Like when we started promoting
for the show here, I, I have Singaporean friends from the
army. He was like, oh, you're coming
to Hong Kong. I'm like, what you you're living
in Hong Kong. I'm like, yeah, I've been here
since COVID. I'm like, oh, that's where you
were because I haven't seen you since the Army and things like
that. So yeah.
And so with Melbourne, when I found out my friend was there,
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he was like, yeah, come and liveon my floor.
And I'm like, fuck yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go for it.
Whatever, man, he was going to save me some rent.
Why not, right? It's just a flat surface.
I need to be honest. With you exactly, because
honestly, flights to Melbourne from Singapore are fairly
affordable if you fly on Scoot, yeah.
Right. So for anybody now we have some
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listeners who are a bit, let me put it this way, they're a bit
classy, like as in they're like a little scoot as in like get
away from me. Fair enough.
Yeah. Right.
And so yes, that is one of the budget airlines that all
comedians in Asia have at some point flown, whether you think
you're famous or not, because you must understand the
promoter. The Asian promoter will tell you
it is not about your fame level.I will fly you on Scoot.
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And you will only find out when you're about to get to the
airport and be like ah shit it'sa Scoot flight.
Man, it's a Scoot flight. But sometimes Scoot will put you
on a Singapore Airlines flight. Yeah, right.
Once in a while, yeah. Every now and now, this is the
question I've always had. So if you're a Scoot passenger,
you bought a Scoot flight with aScoot pay and they upgraded the
Singapore Airline plane, do you get the food included?
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I think so. You do right?
Because I think once you're on aSingapore airline, they.
Don't care. Yeah.
So I believe they can't do it the other way.
You can't be a Singapore Airlineguy and like, what the hell am I
on school? Yeah, then you get dropped to
school with food, but even with food you'll be like fuck off
are. You seriously there was a reason
I buy Singapore Airline. Man, you can't be doing this
shit to me. But they are like a sister
airline. Yes, yes, yes, right.
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So yeah, they work together. And if you fly Singapore
Airlines regularly and you're like trying to chop up your
mouse and stuff like that, you get mouse on Scoot as well.
Yeah, that's the smart move. So yeah, and sometimes they
actually kind of encourage you to do that.
Like on this trip, my girlfriendand I, we we flew out to China
on Scoot, but we're flying back on Singapore Airlines.
Yeah. And then they actually gave us
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some bonus miles. Oh, because you went on Scoot
and all that stuff. Yeah, they were like, yeah,
thanks for. Supporting we, yeah, like most
people will be like, wait, you could afford Singapore Airlines?
So we see one leg of your flightto do Singapore, but yet you
chose not to. Well, I just want to say good on
you, man. You know, however you
diversified your, you know, funds and everything, good on
you Do we needed that. We needed that to happen.
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We we just I also Full disclosure, this is the first
podcast I'm doing as Engage men.Oh, hey, there we go with the
announcements out already. Just tell everybody how the the
great Jimmy Eng decide. Sorry, Jimmy.
Oh my God, Jackie Young dude, I it is way too late, man.
Like it is very rare we record the podcast like at 10:00 PM
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Yeah, however. Jimmy is on his way to Hong Kong
too. He's.
Already here. He's already.
Here you should get here. Try and get him here.
Hey, hey, hey, Mr. Jimmy. Oh, Yang.
Yeah. Oh, Yang.
If you ever have a chance, you know, I'll give you.
You know what? I'll let you have 10 minutes
over here. Yeah, you know I will.
Without you come into this beautiful studio.
Check it out for yourself. Yeah, I'll let you plug your
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show if you need to. I mean, I mean, you sold that
five shows, but maybe the 6th 1.You comedy sell tickets.
You never know. No, but OK.
OK, So as an engagement, we're going to go there.
All right. All right.
I was going to let you let the cat out of the bag for that one.
So tell us everything. You decided to come to Hong Kong
and do a headliner show. Now, how much of that headliner
show was actually like, look, I need reason to be in Hong Kong.
I need to do this thing that I want to do on a Sunday in a
specific place, but I don't wantto find myself there without
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making some money. Can I somehow.
You know, because let's be honest, OK, after doing comedy
enough, when you travel a lot, every time you go somewhere like
maybe I could just book. You can gig.
And get the flight covered. And then I just go travel on my
own, you know? Yeah, I mean, I wish I had the
foresight, but it was the other way around.
When Muhammad or when, when I somehow it was actually true.
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Chrissy in Malaysia. Chrissy.
Yeah, Yeah, right. She was like, oh, you want to go
and do this show in Hong Kong? And then they put me in touch
with Muhammad and then he gave me the date.
Yes. And then it was close enough to
my, my now fiance's birthday. And so I was like, I am going to
Hong Kong. And she said, Oh my God, we can
go to Disneyland. I'm like, yeah, let's go to
Disneyland. And then she, she took like a
long leave from work so that we could also go to China and
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everything. And then so we in Singapore, if
you want to buy a house, you, you have to be married.
Yeah, I heard that right. So if you're married, it's
beneficial for like property purchasing and stuff like that?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So, so the, the, the joke in Singapore is you, you don't
propose to your partner, you, you just ask if you want to
apply for a flat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And we and we have applied for the flat.
We have a flat coming in three years time.
All right. Wait, hold on a second.
When we talk flats and all, we can't just say I have a flat, I
have to get specifics. Do they tell you like when you
apply for a flat over there, do you get to choose?
I wanted this size flat with that number of rooms and
everything. All right, So what have you got?
Like what's the number like herein Hong Kong?
We have a four room flat so there's three bedrooms.
Oh my God, first of all, hold ona second.
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Let me let's take a let's take astep back, Jackie.
A4 bed, 4 room or four bedroom. So the hall is considered OK,
That's a. Room.
OK and so we have 3 bedroom. Kitchen, Yeah, Kitchen Hall.
Kitchen is 2. Oh no, the kitchen is not
counted in OH. Yeah, yeah, look at you,
Singapore and say, oh, we know this is not a room to us here in
Hong Kong, like anything that has like a three walls at least
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where I guess the room. Dude, take it, man.
Like even right now, like like this little room, this is
technically supposed to be the kitchen of this planet.
This was actually the original designated kitchen area.
Fair enough. We decided to switch it up and
make it in our little city studio.
Slash like writing desk slash hanging of the clothes.
Yeah, for like on a on a wet day.
You say you say writing desk, but it's there's no way you can
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do writing. Oh no, I I haven't had ever
since Australia, I haven't decided that at all.
This is always. This is OK.
There's a lot of pens on that desk.
Yeah, a lot of pens. There's a lot of pens.
It's the potential writing desk.Fair enough.
Yeah, the potential energy over this.
Very high. The kinetic energy.
Very low. Low.
Yeah, high potential. Yeah.
So OK, so 4 rooms. Do you get to choose which area?
Yeah, So they, So what they do is they'll be like, OK, there
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are some flats coming up in thisarea, this area, this area,
this. Area so they get like the then.
You can apply for this area and each time you apply be like 10
bucks. Oh, OK, yeah, yeah.
Handling. Right.
So you don't just apply for 20 different places.
Yeah, yeah. So do do you get to do like, OK
'cause like this sounds like oneof those like multilayered
pyramid schemes. OK then like, you know, like
they we got this one. This is the new thing in the hot
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on the block. Everybody come on here and apply
somewhere. So our flat, so like the, the
property market in Singapore, it's, it's going the way of Hong
Kong. It's, it's not, it's not as bad,
but it's, it is rising quite crazy.
Yeah. And people are just flipping it.
And, and so our flat like it's like a new thing by the
government. They've launched this thing
called the prime location flats.Oh, nice.
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OK, So this is the first prime location flat the government has
launched in Singapore. And the old flats, you have a
minimum occupancy period of fiveyears, so people will just.
Flip and flip it right? Yeah. 5A day, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. For our case, our flat minimum
occupancy period is 10 years. Are you allowed to rent it out
though? We can rent out bedrooms, we
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can't rent out the whole unit. So actually some people do his
they. Just.
They just lock the master bedroom and then they rent out
the whole. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
OK. That's fair.
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
Because that's technically one room that they still living in.
Yeah, yeah. Wow.
Let me, first of all, I really appreciate the fact that you
have a different problem that wedo where you're like, I got too
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many rooms, I got to rent something and like, Oh my God, I
don't want to do this room. We have so many rooms.
You can rent the place out and still lock one room and be like
this is a very feasible space. Some people rent out the
bedrooms to try and help cover the mortgage.
Pay for the mortgage right? Which is what my parents did
when they first got married. All.
Right, fair enough. Yeah, a lot of people here as
well. They'll buy a flat and then the
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mortgage and they use the rent to cover the mortgage.
But this again comes back to thequestion is where the hell do
they, let's say they rent that place for the mortgage.
Where do they stay? So they can live in the master
bedroom, right? So.
So if they lock, if they lock, yeah, then they or sometimes
people are just rich, like if their parents.
Or the other two. Flats.
Their parents are living in a nice big bungalow.
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But you know this, it is the right of every Singaporean that
if you get married, you can go and apply for.
A public flat, Yeah. I've heard of those snobs that
have like, say, 2 flats in the same building.
Exactly. They're just separated by a lift
and stuff and you're going to govisit and stuff like that.
They're the asshole, dude. You know, everyone on the
podcast knows that now. Once in a while all.
Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So let me understand this because this is very fascinating
to me. I know we probably tuned that 20
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other people are like, we don't need to know about master
bedrooms. But the question is, you lock
yourself in the master bedroom, right?
You can rent the rest of the flat out.
How do you leave fire escape? No, you can.
Just go through the main door. What's wrong with?
No, but master bedroom coming connected to the main door
directly there must be like a little hallway or something.
Yeah, yeah, you can just walk out the main door.
Why? Why?
Why? But then like, you're renting
the space to someone else. They're like, what the hell?
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Like why are you in my hallway? Yeah, but.
It's like an understood thing. It's like an understood thing.
That's so weird man. But also, I think most times
they are like old people and they don't really leave.
And if you're in a master bedroom, you have a toilet.
Yeah, that's true. Old people.
Now the question is this, when they do get, let's say, Food
Panda or delivery service and stuff, does the delivery person
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have to go all the way to the master bedroom?
You get like 5 stars. Yeah, you didn't walk all the
way here. I'm not going to the door for
that. Shit, I guess if you if you
leave a. Comment to tell him to come into
the master. That's so weird, man, to do
that, man. Like you have like a yellow line
for the yellow line. The green line is for the the
son. The red line's for the daughter.
Yeah. Wow.
This is bizarre, man. I've never heard like someone
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who. Well, fair enough.
If you like. You say if you're old enough,
you'd say, look, I'll leave my house maybe three times a week
Max. I've also seen people that in
they they convert the hall into the master bedroom.
OK. So they will put a bed in there
in front of the TV. OK.
And then they put like maybe just install like a plastic
sliding door. Oh yeah, yeah.
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And this is this is where the master of the house is living
in. And then they cut up the rest of
the room. Yeah, yeah.
Into many tiny. Cubical kind of big spaces.
Oh yeah, yeah. Because like we have some of
those here in Hong Kong where they take that main house and
they cut it up enough where everyone's got their own door.
So it's like as it was another apartment.
But the door just leads to another person's.
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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
But, I mean, So what it is like,sure.
I believe it's what we call, like the Hong Fong is like, they
take your apartment, OK. And then they redesign the
lining of the walls. So you enter your door, and then
you enter, like, little hall just like you would, let's say,
imagine you come out of the hotel.
Lyft. Yeah.
You know, you have that hallway.All right?
You have the three rooms. Yeah.
That's what they did. They divided the space in the
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three rooms. Just essentially just a bit when
you open the door, I mean. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, one of those yeah, yeah. So a lot of those ways like I, I
just have my space and that's good enough.
I have one small window. I'll take it you.
Know yeah like if like when I was still living in my parents I
would be happy to be like, yeah if I can just get out my my
parents place and just live in in Oh yeah a bit like I'll be
I'll be happy to. Do that.
That's true. I just want that your own space,
right. Exactly.
Yeah. Yeah, I totally understand that.
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But the good thing is that Jackie has gone to the point now
that he no longer has to try to afford that one bedroom space.
Yeah. You know, he now is.
And in the the the pathway to property ownership, ownership to
home ownership for 10 years. For 10 years, yeah.
Yeah, well, you know, I'll own it for 10 years.
Fine, whatever, you know, I haveto do that.
However, let's take a step back to how you even got to this
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place. Now, having this ability to do
these things, for example, coming to Hong Kong, owning
homes, proposing girlfriends andnot getting rejected, stuff like
that, right. Let's go to the original.
OK, so Singapore comedy, like, let's be honest, worldwide, it
is not exactly one of those like, oh, you got to do it, got
it. Singapore comedy, you got to go
there, right. However, recently I have noticed
that Singapore comedy has grown a lot, as in like the homegrown
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talent has grown so much that when you travel the world and
you will see less people like yourself, let's say fuzz, fuzz
and everything representing and trapping the world
internationally to do shows. Tell us a bit more about the
Singapore comedy scene where it was, because I remember
Singapore comedy was more like, let's say, comedy of Salah.
I found a Tuesday morning on Tiger Airways.
That's right, Right. I remember that one.
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Oh, my God, that. And then, like, arriving there.
Do the show fly on Wednesday? I'm out.
It was like one of those, like, 24 hours in.
That's it. Yeah.
Yeah. And that was the scene.
I think that's actually like thestrength of being in Asia.
Yeah. That we that we are well
connected enough and flights don't take that long that you
could do that, right? Like it's less than 24 hours.
You could do a show and be back home.
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Yeah. But the Singapore scene has
grown quite a bit, I would say, before COVID.
Have you ever been to the Mary Lion in Singapore?
No, I have not been to the Mary Lion.
No, no. Yeah, so the Mary Lion was the
first full time club that we had, but it shut down during
COVID. And then today we have a new
comedy club called The Lemon Stand.
Lemon stand. I heard about that one which.
Is I think it's around for like two or three 2 1/2 years now
all. I heard about from everyone one
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is that the spotlight is too bright.
The spotlight's too big. That's all I've heard everyone
of the others say you gotta do so.
But dude, I'm gonna tell you now, man, you're gonna leave the
room and you're gonna have that black spot in your eyes.
I'm like, what? Why do you have a black spot in
my eyes? Like the spotlight's too bright.
I'm like, what is with the spotlight dude?
If we don't have a dimmer like what's going on over here the.
Spotlight is very bright. The owner of the club, God bless
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him. He's a lovely man and he books
shows and he actually sells themout these days, right?
But he, I mean, he's a stubborn man and he doesn't really like
to take our advice on maybe tellhim to turn down the light.
But other than that, it's still a pretty good room.
And now I think he's actually pumped in so much money with
marketing that when you Google for comedy in Singapore, he's
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#1. Wow, that is there's.
A lot of money to pay Google and.
That's a good thing. If you're, for example, anyone
that says comedy and you're the first thought, this is it.
Yeah. I mean, I think that's one of
the things that if you read any of those business books, they
say you need to be the first association people have with
that item, then you've won. Then you've won.
Yeah. And Singapore is a tiny market.
Yeah, right. So he he's essentially done
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that. But so now in Singapore we have
that, we have Masala still goingstrong.
Yeah, we also have East Coast comedy.
That happens. I love it.
I love it. I must say.
Like Singapore being so small, but we're from the East Coast.
It's like, buddy, you're 20 minutes away.
Like relax. Like I could have walked there
within an hour. It is, but I would say it's
actually a very different vibe if you do a comedy show in the
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East and a comedy show in the West and Singapore.
It is a tiny country, but peopleare still different.
I can just imagine that like in the in the show in the East,
like man, back in the West, you know, you know, we wouldn't do
it that way. It's like, wait back in the
what? They will talk shit.
They'll be like, you know, fuck those people in Jurong in the
West. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
They will talk shit like that. Oh, yeah.
It's like Hong Kong with Kowlooninside.
You know, it's like, oh, you went to Kowloon there, you know,
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one of those things. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of
those where people are like, oh,I would never cross.
Why would I need to, you know? Right.
I mean that growing up like likeI guess the example is football
people. Like, why the fuck does
Singapore have a professional league when we ask like 40
minutes east to West? Like, what's the difference
between this place and that place?
But actually there is some kind of minute differences in the way
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people just see things. And it's, it's interesting.
If you do have the time, next time you come to Singapore and
you have more than 24 hours before you have to come back,
yeah, I could take you around and you could see the different
sides of Singapore. I'll be honest with you.
I can imagine that. Because here in Hong Kong,
that's actually one of the things when I go to school is I
talk to kids. And I said honestly, like
different areas of Hong Kong is a completely different vibe.
I have this whole joke about howI'm taking the train as the
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train stops change, the racism differs as well.
You know, like they look like, oh, this guy must be doing this,
you know, 3 stations. Oh, you must be doing that
right? It just changed like this guy,
I, I go from central, they're like, oh, this guy's a banker.
OK, You know, 5 stations later, oh, this guy's, you know his
construction site. I'm like, wait, what?
I didn't do shit, you know, but I was like that's and I believe
that. Same with the Singapore, like
once you go in a few stations like alright, this area for
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sure. You're gonna feel it, yeah.
You have that now. The thing though is that I do
remember, like Singapore having a lot of, you know, comedians
and a lot of the comedy was moreabout, you know, Singapore,
Malaysians, Indians, Chinese andeverything.
I have noticed though, that the more seasons comedians are doing
less of that. Yeah.
I feel is it. Would you say it's the evolution
of Asian comedy or even Singapore comedy in general
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'cause like, I feel maybe over there every open mic or does
that right? Yeah.
So typically, hey, there's some high Indian friend, right?
He does. It's like, we get it.
That's an open mic level. Yeah.
Do you find like I saw your set?At Base Hall as well.
And a lot of it has to do just with your general daily life.
Have you found the maturity thatyou have as a comedian?
Did that come from because you traveled as they went to
Melbourne and saw all these comedians like okay, so it's not
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just about new people, 20 peopleand you're like, okay, just tell
in your life, I get it. Was it that or did you outgrow
it? For me, I remember I kind of
outgrew where I'm like, oh, OK, I don't want to still see talk
My oh, I'm Indian. I speak and he's like, really,
I'm still doing that, right? Like that that's way overdone.
Like what's happening with my life as well.
What, what, what? What do you think?
I think for me, like even starting out it, I've never felt
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super comfortable talking about race.
OK, OK. Because like as a Chinese in
Singapore, like like I'm the majority race.
So if I'm talking about Indians in the Malays, then I'm kind of
like punching down. Yeah.
So it is a bit more. I mean, it's not that I don't do
it at all, but I've never been super comfortable doing that.
I've always just I felt more comfortable talking about
myself, my family, my my observations.
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But it's it's it's nice that when I start travelling, then
this jokes actually translate much easier.
Yeah, when I travel. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. As opposed to if I was talking
about some very specific race nuances in Singapore that maybe
can crush really hard in Singapore.
It's just harder for people to accept when you're especially in
like a western country like Melbourne, people would really
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pull back at things like that. I'm going to ask you this, yo,
when you went to Melbourne, the first time I watched show and
when you did like spots over there, did you get the cultural
shock? I wouldn't, I wouldn't say
cultural shock, but like more ofthe shock of like the level of
political correctness. We're like, whoa, OK, whoa, this
isn't OK. We're not allowed to go there,
you know, or like you won't go there or you feel awkward about
that because like my first time ever, I'll be honest with you,
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when I went to the US and I did shows at the Laugh Factory, I
was coming from Hong Kong and all I knew was like, you know
what, you know, So India, right?I mean, right.
And over there I remember like Ithink I was doing the the
funniest person in the world competition.
Richard Lewis was one of the judges, all right.
And now I'm like, Oh my God, Richard Lewis.
And I remember I went up there, I did some, oh, I had this,
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this, this joke in the beginning.
I'm like, oh, I'm Indian. I'm not what was it?
I'm not oh, Indian, I'm na na nana na Indian, right, right.
I now here in Asia and stuff, it's hilarious, right?
Dude, I went there and I went onthere.
I I believe I opened with that. And I remember seeing Richard
Lewis face go like, right, right, OK.
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And I was like, does he don't get it?
Like this is this is America, they should get it even more
right. You know, I mean, I'm not like,
don't you know the Indians that you guys took over and
everything? And then later on, as I grew and
I went to Melbourne, I was like,in this world, they're like,
yeah, we don't do that, Yeah. Well, with Melbourne, so I don't
have that much experience in theWest, right?
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It's really just Melbourne and I've been to Perth this year.
Yeah. So this year Melbourne was
interesting because I got to host a show out in Collingwood.
There's the suburbs and it's allwhite people, right?
And I think they're actually less politically correct the
further you get out from the city.
Yeah, No one's trying to be too proper over there.
They're like, aren't Chinese people this way?
Yeah. So in the city is where it's
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really, I guess people are more cautious about how they're
perceived. Yeah, yeah.
But once you start getting into the suburbs, it's not as
sensitive. So it's interesting the way that
even in a place that we think oris, you have to be PC, there are
still places where different types of comedy can thrive.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, right. Whereas I think in Asia, because
the scene is still so young, where I think we all kind of
look at comedy and we think, like, OK, there is a certain set
of rules that we have to abide by.
Yeah. And that's how we progress as a
scene. But I think we're hoping that we
can get to a point where any type of comedy, any type of
comedian can find their own space to thrive.
And then as a whole, we can all grow together.
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Yeah, Yeah. I think that's the one thing
I've learned over time is that you may grow as a comedian, but
there's still an audience who may be newcomers.
Yeah. Just like, let's say, a wine
drinker. You're always going to have the
bunch of people who just want toget drunk.
Yeah. Right.
So like, and you're like, why would you waste this wine?
Just get drunk. Like, that's what I want, you
know? So in the same with the comedy,
no matter how you grow. And I've noticed this like over
the years that when I see commies, I'm like, OK, I I see
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what you're doing there. Yeah, I get the joke, you know,
la, la, la. However, there's always gonna be
an artist who's like, that is sofunny.
Yeah, I've never. Oh, my God, That's, that's
genius. Like, dude, that is like such a
hack. Yeah, like such a hacky joke.
But yeah, there's that as well. Do you, how do you quality
control yourself in general now that you've travelled more?
And you also your, would you sayyou have to represent Singapore
a bit as well when you're travelling and doing shows
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around? Like, do you feel that pressure?
I don't feel the pressure, but it is something that I would
like to do. Yeah, right.
Represent Singapore or. Up your game.
I don't know about Rep, I don't know about representing
Singapore, but like, this is my,my first exposure to stand up
is, is me watching all these American comedians.
Yeah, right. And I, I learned so much about
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American culture listening to them.
And so when it, when it was whenI had the opportunity to do
opportunity to do stand up, thenit, it feels, feels to me like I
should try and show the world Singaporean culture.
Yes, through my stand up. Yeah.
And so that's what I, I try to do as much as I can.
I think a lot of comedians in Singapore, they get very
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self-conscious. They be like why?
Why would why would why would anyone want?
To, yeah, that's my point, yeah.But that's what people that
watch comedy is watching you for.
Yeah. Right.
No, like then they're no, nobody's watching you to try and
pretend to be an American. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If somebody's coming out to watch you as a Singaporean
comedian or a Hong Kong comedian, then they want to hear
about what Hong Kong is like. They want to hear about what
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Singapore is like. And I think that is something
that we should be more proud of and try to push as opposed to
trying to emulate some kind of comedian that you idolize.
Yeah, true. I mean, that would be quite
silly, like being a cover band, you know, like, we don't really
need cover band comedians, although there are many cover
band comedians. I would say something like, I
know you're probably heavily influenced by that person, but
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that's literally their joke. Exactly.
Literally said the exact same joke.
It doesn't work that way over here.
Yeah. OK, Now you, you let's
understand a few more things. So Singapore comedy scenes
growing a lot. Would you say now you are at
that point where the new kids inSingapore, they coming on to the
comedy scene? Like, Oh my God, that's joking.
That's joking. Oh my God.
Some of them do that, but I, I, you know, I'm in the same green
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room as them. We're in the same backstation.
If you're, if you're talking to me, I'm not, I'm not trying to
like. Yeah, be all be like, yeah,
yeah. But I, I guys, guys, keep it
down, OK, Keep it down. All right?
You know, I mean, you know. But sometimes they come up to me
and they be like, do you have some advice?
Yeah. And what the fuck do you want me
to say? Oh yeah, yeah, that's the
hardest man. Yeah, just get funny.
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny.
The I just will tell you if you're good or not.
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That's all. You know, I can't tell you how
to improve it. Let them tell you how to.
Exactly. Yeah.
All right. Now let's take a few things
because I'm I'm very curious because we've known each other
for long enough now that we've seen each other as you could
even be like amateur level or semi professional level to the
point that now I could say that we are strong enough comedians
that we can create our destiny in our careers, right?
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So in other words, like same foryou is that technically you have
the power to be flown or even gooverseas to do shows, hence why
you have the power to create a destiny.
Now, whether you create it or not, that secondary and also
whether or not there are other people approve of your destinies
to another point. However, now that you have that
freedom or ability to create it,what is usually the driving
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force for you as a comedian to, you know, travel the world, do
shows, you know, what's the motivator?
Because like a lot of you know, every, I'm sure every newspaper
interviews like so you know, howdo you find your inspiration?
But I'm I'm not about inspiration.
I don't care about that because like that's anywhere, right?
Everyone, I'll use daily life, right.
But what is the drive to keep doing?
Is it peer pressure? You see, like, oh, he's doing
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that. I better do something like that
as well. Is it you go where I wanna show
these new kids I'm the shit? Is it fear, for example?
Oh my God, if I don't do it, I'mgonna be forgotten.
I better get my shit straight. Or is it simply trying to, I
don't know, the 4th or whatever it is for yourself?
But this is what I love to do ismy favorite thing to do going on
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stage doing stand up. I've tried, you know, doing
improv and it's kind of fun, butI don't like, I don't really
like sharing the stage with anyone else.
I've been saying this to everybody.
I'm very selfish on stage. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so that's this is, this is
what I love to do. And I, but I guess there's a big
part of me that's also afraid that if this doesn't work out,
if I, if I don't get to travel as much doing this or I don't
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get paid as much doing this, then I'm going to have to go and
go back into the office. Yeah, right.
I was working in a, in a contentcompany during COVID.
And the moment COVID ended and we could fly, I was like, I'm
fucking done with this. I don't want to, I just don't
want to do this anymore. And so there's a big part of me
that's like, oh, if I, if this doesn't work out, then I'm going
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to have to go back into working for someone.
Yeah. And that is just not.
I don't. Think you could ever go back,
man? That's the one thing.
I think as a comedian, now that you've experienced this and also
you've seen the world, you're like, yeah, yeah.
Because I think this is 1 freedom that like Jerry
Seinfeld, once I read stand up comedy is kind of being on a
surfboard with just you in the waves.
Yeah. And once you've experienced
that, you really it's really hard to go back to a big boat.
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Yeah. Have to deal with like the
captain and this that you're like, I want to go surf now.
Yeah. You know.
And just the idea that you can create your own destiny, you
know, that's that's the beauty of stand up comedy is like,
well, write a show and do a show.
That's it. Yeah, try and sell something.
Yeah, that's pretty much that Someone will buy it whether or
not the enough numbers to make ends meet the secondary.
But you have that. But what's the like, what's
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what's the what's the downs downtime, Jackie, like what's you
generally on a daily basis? Like, for example, right, MO
always makes the joke about how I'm like a psycho with work
where I will keep myself busy, right, You know, like I will.
I will not be single. Like, oh, you know what, I'll
take a day off like a day off. The hell you mean day off, you
know, so what's the down time you because it usually what I
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find is when I talk to comediansis that the down time version of
them Co relates to their style of comedy.
So, for example, with myself is that a lot of my comedy is like
high energy. I'm talking about this.
If that happened over there, I'mgoing to lose my shit and
everything, but that's because that's my downtime.
Me, I'm losing my shit when I'm in my downtime, you know, I mean
I'm going some places. What about yourself?
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Like what's your downtime version of of Jackie?
I like to think I'm pretty chill, you know?
Actually, this year when I was in Melbourne, in the house that
I was living in, I, I mentioned my, it's my friend's house, but
my friend wasn't in Melbourne. He was, he was back in
Singapore, but I was living in his house.
Oh. Wait, hold on a second.
So you are one of two things. You're either like those renters
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in Singapore when the master bedroom's locked, or you're the
equivalent to, like, a ghost haunting his house, isn't it?
Like technically, Yeah, right. Kind of, but also so he had
another guy living in the house,but the other guy was actually
living in a van behind the house.
Whoa, this is in Melbourne? This is in Melbourne dude, this
is so. Melbourne right there.
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Yes, yes, I'm gonna I'm I'm a guest system.
I don't want no, I'm I don't know the.
Accent but this guy is 60 years old and his RIP his fucking rip.
And he wakes up in the morning. He does 100 push ups, Okay, He
does more than 100 push up. He does like some calisthenic
workout and shit, yes. And so I was living there with
him for the whole month and he'sinfluenced me.
So now I at least I wake up in the morning.
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I do 100 push ups. Really.
Yeah. Damn.
Dude, I do 100 push ups like in three sets maybe like 403525,
yeah. That's what I is there, music
playing in the background. No, actually.
Is this pre brushing teeth or post brushing teeth?
This is pre brushing teeth. Pre brushing teeth.
I make my coffee and I have it in between my sets in.
Between the sets, you have a coffee.
All right, so you're doing thosesets now.
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Do you count downwards 100 and 9998 or do you count upwards?
You count upwards all right? Are you allowed to, for example,
do less than 33 each set? Kind of.
I mean, it's really up to me. It's.
Just as long as you hit 100 you don't care if you like 10/10/10,
10:10 or. So that's how I started, right?
Like when I, the first day I waswith him when he was doing push,
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I couldn't do five. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then like throughout the week, it got me up to five.
And then like, OK, let's do foursets of five to get 20.
And then now I can I can do 100 in three sets.
Yeah, have you, have you ever considered like having like an
only fans page? Where it's just me doing
pushups. You do pushups.
There must be an audience who's into that kind of stuff.
I mean, I'm not against it. Yeah, I could try it out.
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Because all you have to do is like if you can set a fixed time
all right, so this is my business proposal to you, right?
You have a camera. The camera is always live
streaming, but only like faces one particular wall.
You can't see nothing that's happening in the room, no audio.
So you don't have to worry aboutcapturing a sound.
All it knows is that every everyday 9:00 AM Singapore time.
I'm there doing this. Camera will have someone doing
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push ups. Now if you're travelling, you
will find an equivalent body double or whatever to do that,
OK And that guarantees that we're 9:00 AM and the idea is
you've got the the only fans creeps, OK And you've got the
only fans people who really wantto be motivated, OK, you get it.
And they're like, and basically,and then what you do, you do
your push ups, you do 100 of them and then you have to be out
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of it. Do the whole day, you know,
breath and then give them a speech, right, my friends?
Zoom give up, you know. I go every day.
I mean, I could be here. I could be in my bed.
Yeah, but I decided to chase another day.
Yeah. And today you did it as well,
right? You do one of those things,
dude. I'm not.
I'm not against it, but I think the problem with only fans,
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honestly is that it's a it's a slippery slope, yes.
Like, it's maybe if you can havea bunch of people that want to
be motivated and then maybe a few creeps.
Yeah. But I think the law of averages
suggests that there will be an equal amount of these two
people. But creeps are always more
willing to pay money than peoplethat want to be more people.
So what you can do, because it kind of works your advantage,
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like you're doing pushups every day.
OK, you're starting to get ripped.
You're getting ripped. You feel more confident in your
body. You show a little bit more arm,
right? Creeps are donating more money,
You get more ripped. You can buy protein powder, you
get all the creatine, all that kind of shit.
Now you're feeling even better because you have the six pack.
You take the the top off, then you get more ripped because now
you're going to throw in some squats as well because I mean,
push the fake, make the money anymore.
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You got squats, you got those legs of steel.
Now you're wearing the little tidy kind of bodybuilder thing.
Yeah, you see. So that's when it when it
becomes a bit iffy for me. So it's.
It's like if I'm, if I'm just working out and doing my thing
to get money, sure. But if I am actually selling my
body now, then it becomes and then and then at what point do I
say no? Because they're just going to
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keep asking for more. True, right?
And then one day we're like, could you do your push ups
naked? And I'm like fuck.
Yeah, otherwise I will not donate.
Anymore. Yeah.
So that's the slope that I'm kind of afraid of.
All right, OK. But my only fans, I heard
they're actually producing comedy specials in LA.
Well, for some, I'm sure some channels.
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Yeah, like they're being like Frankie Marcos.
Have you met Frankie Marcos? Frankie Marcos, he comes to
Singapore quite often. He I think he's recording a
special for Only Fans. Oh, wow.
And they're doing that with a bunch of comedians because I
think Only Fans just wants to diversify them, like.
They need to, man. Yeah, of course.
Because like everyone's like, I'm not going to sign up for
that shit. I'm in trouble.
Like I have to sign up for that shit if this guy's on it.
Yeah, dude, that would be so crazy if like, let's say people
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didn't read the fine print. And they subscribe, Yeah.
And then just your. This guy just talking.
I was like, I get he's talking, but like when's the you know the
actually I'm the only fan here that's listening, dude.
Wow man, that would be the day dude.
Yeah, I mean, if only fans is isout in Asia and you want to do
some comedy, you can get his pockets on there, Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. Not fair enough, man.
I mean like for the right price,you know, I might, I don't know
where Speedos. If I actually they can't see
what we're wearing below our shit.
Well, actually already in Speedos.
That's very true. I'm showing like, I'm showing a
lot of like, but I'm not only fans there for no leg viewing.
Maybe the day will come and I amreally on only fans and trust
me, there'll be a lot of hair. There will be one more camera
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pointing from below exactly and.Let me just say it will be a
wide angle lens. I'm making an extra.
Everything is extra wide, extra long, man, dude, Okay, so now
can we get into the the the thing that you mentioned your
engaging thing today. All right, Can we get into that
right. This is because I'm sure
everyone's kind of like we don'tcare about your comedy life.
We're not comedians. We don't care about everything.
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That's for me only all right, soyou woke up today.
Yeah, All right, you were like, all right, today's the day, man,
today's the day. This is the day I'm going to do
all that shit. It's going to be magical.
You know, we're going to go overthere, me and my girlfriend over
here. You know my girlfriend for the
last time, you know, I'm trying to sing this word.
You know anybody refers to it asgirlfriend.
I'm an unfriendly motherfuckers.They don't know shit right?
You woke up. Did you have to okay, let's
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compare it to you doing a headline to set for the first
time right? New material.
You kind of worked it out. You workshopped it a bit
additional where you talk to your friends about it, Like,
okay, you I have to put it on that game page.
So like, yeah, no big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Honey, you want some coffee? Yeah, yeah, we went for
breakfast. All that shit, no big deal.
She's just eating. You're like, you're like, you
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have no idea. Yeah, actually that's what I've
been doing. I've been taking like, did you
ever use Telegram, the messaging?
Oh yeah, yeah, you get to send Telebubbles.
Yeah, yeah, I would. I would send a bubble of her to
to my like our mutual friend, but she has no idea.
Yeah, she has no idea. It's it's like, it's like when
you have the solid show, yeah, And you're behind the curtains
watching the I just come in. They're like, you have no idea.
Yeah, there's no clue. You came in here like, oh, let's
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look at the program. Oh, he's, it says he's a
comedian in Hong Kong. OK, this is interesting.
And the best part is like when you know, you've done a bit and
you're like, this bit kills every time.
And you're like, oh, we're goingto get there, man.
These guys are sitting there listening to me.
You have no idea. In the next 5 seconds, bitch,
you're going to be laughing. Yeah, right.
You will not see this one coming.
So you left your house, all the stuff, having breakfast,
everything is good. Setting those telegram bubbles
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every now and then. All right, you get into Disney.
Yeah. All right.
You did the whole boring lineup.And did you have to?
So before that when we were having breakfast in the chat,
something I I make sure I grab abunch of napkins because I know
that when I pop the question, she is very likely she's going
to cry. OK, OK.
Yeah. So that will be ready for that.
Be smart move. Don't buy your own.
Don't. Buy my own?
Yeah. Yeah, because I'm already paying
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for breakfast. I'm going to get something.
Yeah, exactly. It's fair enough, you know.
All right, so now at what point did you find yourself trying to
over normalize, for example, youknow, like you're lining up
right? And and you, you know, in your
heart you're like nervous but also excited.
You know, you've got that feeling right where you're like,
this could be good, man. It's all right, right?
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Yeah, but you're lining up waiting to get in and you, you
can't be all like, OK, let's we're gonna have a good time
learning. This could be great.
You know, you just gotta go like, Oh my God, look at this
line. No.
So this is the one smart thing that I think I did is I bought
early access. Oh, OK, OK, OK, so you.
Get to you can buy it like I think it's like 30 bucks.
You get to enter Disneyland an hour early before before the
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normal people. That is such a genius Disney
plan thing. Yeah, you open at 9:00, but
we're getting even early access.Yeah, that means you open at
8:00. No, no, no.
For this price you do. Yeah, no, it's like I think if
you live in a, if you're living in a in a Disneyland property in
one of the hotels, then you get earlier, you get an even earlier
1, you get 15 minutes before early entry. 15 minutes, buddy.
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5 minutes, yeah. And do let it go.
Yeah, so, so we technically evendidn't even fully utilize that
one hour pre entry. We went for breakfast.
Yeah, that's something. So we got there, they opened at
10, we got there at 9:30. So they were like, OK, you have
30 minutes extra, you can just enter right now.
And we enter in there. And I'm just like, I know that
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like we are not we are not massive Disney fans, but like
the opportunity was there for usto just go and check out
Disneyland. So sure.
And then so I was like leading up to the tremor, like do you
have any characters you like? Is there any place in Disneyland
you like? Whatever.
And she was like, she only like,the only character that she kind
of really likes is Mr. Potato Hit from Toy Story.
Right. And you're like, that's a bit
specific, right? It's very specific and so I'm
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like, it's either I wait until Ican find Mr. Potato hit.
And then do. It and then do it in front of
him. But I'm and I saw I tried
Googling, I don't think he's he's ever going to show up.
And then I'm like, OK, I'm just going to have to fill it out.
Like if I feel it, I'm just going to do it.
And then when we entered it and I just saw the castle and I'm
like, just this is it, this is it.
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And then I'm just like, Nah. So I went up to one of the staff
and I'm like, hey, can you just take a picture for us?
And then I whispered to him, I'mactually going to propose and
just take a video. She's like, now I'm like, yes.
And then and then I did it. And so it was, it was nice
because the castles and the viewis not crowded.
Yeah. You know, I think both of us,
we, we, we do get panicky when it's too crowded.
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Yeah. So it was just it was perfect.
And the fact that it happened atthe beginning of the day means
we can enjoy the rest of the daywithout me.
Yeah, thinking about it like, ohGod, you know, she, she stumbled
over. Oh shit.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
And so, and this is the other thing, though.
So the friend that I was consulting, he's actually, his
name is Sam, Sam Shin. He's a designer.
(40:53):
He's my friend from the ARMY. And he's he's he's homosexual.
Yeah. And he knows he's just like, OK,
this is one thing you got to consider, Jackie.
You can do it at night where thefireworks is up.
It's going to be very crowded. It's going to be very messy.
But also her makeup won't be as good.
Yeah, I see you if you do. It first thing in the morning,
the makeup is. Perfect.
Everything's good. The video will look good and
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last. OK actually, Yeah, it's perfect.
And I think from the men's perspective, it's just that you
got to think that proposing is one of your few trump cards
where you can actually play and then have a good day.
Yeah. Nothing can go wrong after you
propose. If you propose at 9:00 PM, yeah,
sure. Maybe you go home and have sex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you propose in the
morning, this is the one day youcan say whatever you want and
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you can fuck up whatever. Yeah, it would be fine.
So I like to think that it was well played by me today.
Nice, smart movement before everybody goes in.
This is what I tell people, man.Early bird catches the worm.
You know, that's why ladies wakeup early.
That's right. You never know that, but that
might be the day your man walks out with you together and he's
like oh, hey, hey, hey, hey. You know what I mean?
Yeah, it could be. Oh, there you go.
First of all, congratulations. Well done.
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Thank you. That happened.
All the stuff now that happened.You did the whole ring thing.
All right, And then I'm curious now.
It wasn't like, you know, how typically they have like a
little sachet, you know, newly man like engaged in one of those
things. You know, she's walking around
with the little crown and all. None of that.
Right. No, no, no.
Well, it was. Only for the two of you to know,
(42:20):
not for everyone. Hey, everyone, look it up.
OK, OK. It was a birthday 2 days ago, so
when we entered Disneyland they also gave us a pin to tell
everyone it's her birthday. That's good.
Everywhere she went, happy birthday, and that's enough.
Yeah, that's enough attention. We don't need the extra stuff,
right? You have to fight.
It's for us to know. Shut up.
You know, we don't need you. Exactly.
All right, so you walked around and everything.
Now, did you find yourself beinga little bit more generous with
(42:42):
enjoying certain things? For example, you see the snack
bar or whatever? Like we come on, man, Let's get,
let's get, let's get angry, you know, come on, let's get angry,
you know, that's, you know, engaged couple.
Come on. Yeah.
This is my last night in Hong Kong, right?
Tomorrow we are we're taking thehigh speed real to Shenzhen.
Yeah. So whatever Hong Kong dollars I
have, I'm happy to just spend them in this.
Oh. Dude, yeah man.
(43:03):
So. Whatever it is.
So you were out there like let me remind you, Disneyland record
like one of the biggest profits they ever had in last year.
So they probably had a lot of people doing what you did.
I stay in Hong Kong. I have all these like, you know,
they spend it all over there. But also I think food in
Disneyland isn't crazily overpriced.
Yeah, for an amusement park. It is definitely overpriced, but
it's not like compared to the Universal Studios.
(43:25):
Yeah, it's ridiculous. Right.
It's actually fine. It was pretty fair price,
whatever we've had, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's tasty too. So you've been walking around
over there. Was it a little bit of a like
the hand holding happened a bit more than usual, right?
It was a bit more of that. We're like, hey, we're holding
differently now. You know there's a different
meaning behind it, right? You did that.
Was the selfies a bit extra as well?
(43:46):
Did you do a few more extra selfies because it was a
special? Day we had to take a few more
just to make sure the ring is inthe shot the ring that I got for
her it's so she's told me beforethis specific ring that she
wants yeah this is a custom madering yes right and I messaged
the ring shop like a week ago and they're like it takes four
(44:07):
to six weeks to make this ring but they were kind enough to be
like hey you know what you're going to propose we're going to
send you the sample ring that wehave in the shop take the sample
ring. Propose.
Get that done, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
And then when you come back to Singapore, we will get the
measurements and then we will all.
Right. The question is, does she know
the sample ring? Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, she does.
Oh, damn it. OK.
Because we, we, we're going to have to book an appointment for
her to get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(44:29):
So like. Before we came out here, I did a
crowd work show in Singapore. Nice.
And so the last few time I've been do I do crowd work?
I, I always ask the audience like so I, I need to propose.
The house is coming. We need to this.
I'm asking for ideas and I'm just like, did I ask 11
audience? Do you think it's cute if I just
(44:49):
propose with like an appointmentcard to the studio, Huh.
And then so she knows we're going to this place to get a
ring she wants. And then she says every single
lady in the crowd just like you fucking idiot.
No, you. Can't do that you.
Fucking dumb ass. So I'm glad I think isn't.
As a comedian, I'm I'm happy that my audience played a part
(45:11):
in helping make today as a special.
Video. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
As well, Yeah. Nice, man.
Well, I mean, you enjoyed the day all that stuff happened and
ironically you decided to come to the podcast directly after
that. So yeah, that is because.
You're going to Shenchen tomorrow and it's so and I, you
know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I I'm a big fan of you. And thank you, I'm just happy.
(45:32):
Appreciate it. But you spent some time well,
there you go people. This is why you need to listen
to this podcast. That's right, because after
proposing Jack, you decide you know much more important right
now is to spend some quality time with Vivek.
Yeah, exactly. And his and his legs.
Exactly. He knows his priorities, man.
But the good thing is that we'llbe talking a bit more about
other things, all things comedy,slash, his proposal, whatever
(45:52):
special stuff on the Patreon, which will be happening in the
next two minutes time. So anybody else who views like,
oh, that sounded very interesting.
I wonder what they'll talk about.
I won't let you know until you listen to it on the
patreonpatreon.com/hoho pod. You can just subscribe and join
in right now. Listen to what we're going to be
yapping about. How many people subscribe to the
Patreon? Mohammed knows all that stuff,
OK? Like as I was telling Jackie the
(46:14):
usually the deal, what I had from day one was like during the
episode, while we're recording, I'll be in charge of all the
cameras, all the equipment and everything.
I'll make sure it sounds everything's right and all that
stuff I'll supply with my cameras, whatever, you know?
It's a lot. Once we finish that stuff, I
send MO the audio recording and I give him the thumbnail for the
for the episode. And after that, I don't know
nothing about it, man. Like, you figure it out, dude.
(46:37):
Just find the guest, tell me when we're gonna get it done.
That's it. That's it.
Yeah. So that's why he also told me
to. Yeah, that's why he was the
person for all this. Like literally people that mess
me, I wanna be on your podcast. I'm like, tell me I am not cuz I
had to draw that line. You know you want to like
otherwise you start and then OK,I'll do that as well.
I'll do that and then you're screwed.
Yeah. You have that?
Yeah, Yeah. But I maybe for all you know, I
might change things up and do itall by myself on the Patreon.
(46:59):
OK, we'll figure it out when we go over there.
But Jackie, with How do people follow you online?
I'm on Instagram, Jackie on comedy, or you can just go to my
website Jackie dot SG. Jackie dot SG.
That's right dude, you got Jackie dot SG?
You got Jackie dot SG? Eventually anyone thinking about
like oh, Oh well, I want to I want to be the Jackie Oh wow,
this is the Jackie dot SG Jackiedot SG That's right, Jackie in
(47:20):
comedy as in JACKYNG. That's right COMEDY no
underscores right, no underscores Jackie in comedy.
Otherwise Jackie dot SG go checkhim out.
He'll be traveling around the world.
If you happen to be in Shenzhen and see someone that looks like
Jackie, this probably was him. If you see him with, I don't
know, another man, that's probably not him.
It's not me. Right.
Yeah, exactly. And if you see him getting his
ass whooped by an MMA fighter, that could be.
(47:42):
Yeah, that's why it's by him. Anyway, It's a Muay Thai, not
Emma. Muay Thai.
Muay Thai. Yeah, I mixed it up.
Anyway, either way, we'll see you on the Patreon.
If not, we'll see you on the next episode.
Thanks so much, Jackie, for joining us over here.
Everyone check out. He is the Singapore Jackie, as
in Jackie dot SG. And he'll be back with more
comedy. And if you ever travel the
world, I see Jackie doing the show, go check it out because it
is funny. Thank you.
All right. See ya.
(48:03):
Bye.
So I reiterate here, the bill isdead.
The story of this great city is about the years before this
night. Hey everyone, this is Ho Ho Hong
(00:23):
Kong with me, Vivek Mohabani. And today there is no MO which
means the quality just upgraded by 200%.
But instead I have myself a guest coming all the way from
Singapore, which means he was just four and something hours
away from Hong Kong. It is Jackie or Jackie Ung,
depending on which way you want to say it.
I usually say ung. Ung Yeah.
We'll be respectful on this podcast and call you Jackie Ung
(00:44):
just for the sake of it. Just call me Jackie.
You don't say my last name everysingle time, Mr. Ung.
So, Jackie, just in case you missed out, he actually came to
Hong Kong, did his headline showat Base Hall.
Yeah. Just a couple of days before you
recorded a part of the backstageheadliner show nights.
Secondly, Mohammed, however, after seeing the show, probably
for some reason decided I don't want to hang with Jackie
(01:04):
anymore. He's a guy, you know.
I got what I needed him for you for.
Why are we still talking? He's done the show.
I haven't paid him, so yeah. He's like you.
Can go roam Hong Kong now. Exactly.
You figure it out now, you know,help my GDP, then we'll talk
about helping your GDP as well. But Jackie just gives everybody
a bit of background. You based in Singapore,
obviously, and I've known you for many, many years.
Because of course, when we have the Singapore scene, what would
(01:25):
happen is a lot of times I wouldcome down there to do shows on a
weekday or whatever and we'll meet the Singapore crew.
You're one of them. And I believe in the last year
or two years ago you came down to Melbourne as well for the
Melbourne International Coming Festival.
So that was the first time I metyou in Melbourne?
It was my first time in Melbourne was two years ago.
Exactly. Yeah, Yeah.
So we we met up and I believe you didn't have your show at
that time. However, you did something a lot
(01:48):
of Hong Kong comedians don't do,which is you actually decided
I'm gonna go there purely for educational purposes and go
check out how the Melbourne Comedy Festival is.
Yeah, so I mean, Jason Leung wasthe guy that really encouraged
us to do that. He was just like, come down to
Melbourne, he'll give us his. Crew pass yes yes yes and the
crew pass means you can watch any show as long as they're.
Any sheets? Exactly.
(02:09):
Yeah. And that is honestly that is
just so valuable Like if a comedian if you just show up and
you just have that pass, you feel so powerful.
Absolutely because there's just so many amazing shows to watch
and. But also at the same time, it's,
it's not like there is no stage time.
As long as you're hanging out, stage time comes your way
(02:29):
because it's such a massive festival.
Yeah, there's 600 shows happening throughout the month.
It's insane. And you get, you get 5 minutes,
10 minutes. You, you, it's, it's a great
time. So you should really, you're
saying no, none of the Hong Kongcommunities are doing this.
I haven't, they haven't flown themselves down or just to go
check it out. I've offered like the crew
passes, but I understand, you know, Hong Kong rent is very
high, blah, blah, blah, all thatstuff.
Yeah. That hasn't happened much there.
(02:49):
However, was there a, is the Singapore comedy scene something
encouraging where you're like, man, I, I want to go explore
this place. Or did you go to Australia just
because you're closer to the Australia than Hong Kong is to
Australia? Like what?
What? What made you want to go other
than Jason Leung telling you hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm famous,
you know? But Jason Leung told me to do
that. I'm like, OK.
And I think when we first start out doing comedy, we hear about
(03:12):
the Melbourne Comedy Festival and you're like, I like to check
it out. Sometimes, yeah, sure.
Yeah. Yeah, right.
And it's just, and so when, whenthe opportunity came up, I have
enough money saved up that I, I can't afford to go on this trip.
I found out I have friends living in Melbourne so I can
crash on. It I like how you like I found
out I have friends living in Melbourne.
It's like, yeah, you know, I not, I realized not I connected,
(03:36):
but I found out. Oh shit, I have friends over
there. Yeah, that some of my friends
that's. Usually not the not the order of
of things that happen. You have friends who happen to
be there. Not I found out I have friends
who are there. Well, it's I in Singapore, you
go through school, you go to NS,the army, Yeah.
And then, you know, over time you just lose track of all of
(03:56):
them. That's very true.
Yeah. And then and then you go on
Instagram and you're like, oh, this guy is actually here.
It's same thing happened in in Hong Kong.
Oh, yeah. Like when we started promoting
for the show here, I, I have Singaporean friends from the
army. He was like, oh, you're coming
to Hong Kong. I'm like, what you you're living
in Hong Kong. I'm like, yeah, I've been here
since COVID. I'm like, oh, that's where you
were because I haven't seen you since the Army and things like
that. So yeah.
And so with Melbourne, when I found out my friend was there,
(04:19):
he was like, yeah, come and liveon my floor.
And I'm like, fuck yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go for it.
Whatever, man, he was going to save me some rent.
Why not, right? It's just a flat surface.
I need to be honest. With you exactly, because
honestly, flights to Melbourne from Singapore are fairly
affordable if you fly on Scoot, yeah.
Right. So for anybody now we have some
(04:40):
listeners who are a bit, let me put it this way, they're a bit
classy, like as in they're like a little scoot as in like get
away from me. Fair enough.
Yeah. Right.
And so yes, that is one of the budget airlines that all
comedians in Asia have at some point flown, whether you think
you're famous or not, because you must understand the
promoter. The Asian promoter will tell you
it is not about your fame level.I will fly you on Scoot.
(05:03):
And you will only find out when you're about to get to the
airport and be like ah shit it'sa Scoot flight.
Man, it's a Scoot flight. But sometimes Scoot will put you
on a Singapore Airlines flight. Yeah, right.
Once in a while, yeah. Every now and now, this is the
question I've always had. So if you're a Scoot passenger,
you bought a Scoot flight with aScoot pay and they upgraded the
Singapore Airline plane, do you get the food included?
(05:25):
I think so. You do right?
Because I think once you're on aSingapore airline, they.
Don't care. Yeah.
So I believe they can't do it the other way.
You can't be a Singapore Airlineguy and like, what the hell am I
on school? Yeah, then you get dropped to
school with food, but even with food you'll be like fuck off
are. You seriously there was a reason
I buy Singapore Airline. Man, you can't be doing this
shit to me. But they are like a sister
airline. Yes, yes, yes, right.
(05:45):
So yeah, they work together. And if you fly Singapore
Airlines regularly and you're like trying to chop up your
mouse and stuff like that, you get mouse on Scoot as well.
Yeah, that's the smart move. So yeah, and sometimes they
actually kind of encourage you to do that.
Like on this trip, my girlfriendand I, we we flew out to China
on Scoot, but we're flying back on Singapore Airlines.
Yeah. And then they actually gave us
(06:06):
some bonus miles. Oh, because you went on Scoot
and all that stuff. Yeah, they were like, yeah,
thanks for. Supporting we, yeah, like most
people will be like, wait, you could afford Singapore Airlines?
So we see one leg of your flightto do Singapore, but yet you
chose not to. Well, I just want to say good on
you, man. You know, however you
diversified your, you know, funds and everything, good on
you Do we needed that. We needed that to happen.
(06:27):
We we just I also Full disclosure, this is the first
podcast I'm doing as Engage men.Oh, hey, there we go with the
announcements out already. Just tell everybody how the the
great Jimmy Eng decide. Sorry, Jimmy.
Oh my God, Jackie Young dude, I it is way too late, man.
Like it is very rare we record the podcast like at 10:00 PM
(06:48):
Yeah, however. Jimmy is on his way to Hong Kong
too. He's.
Already here. He's already.
Here you should get here. Try and get him here.
Hey, hey, hey, Mr. Jimmy. Oh, Yang.
Yeah. Oh, Yang.
If you ever have a chance, you know, I'll give you.
You know what? I'll let you have 10 minutes
over here. Yeah, you know I will.
Without you come into this beautiful studio.
Check it out for yourself. Yeah, I'll let you plug your
(07:09):
show if you need to. I mean, I mean, you sold that
five shows, but maybe the 6th 1.You comedy sell tickets.
You never know. No, but OK.
OK, So as an engagement, we're going to go there.
All right. All right.
I was going to let you let the cat out of the bag for that one.
So tell us everything. You decided to come to Hong Kong
and do a headliner show. Now, how much of that headliner
show was actually like, look, I need reason to be in Hong Kong.
I need to do this thing that I want to do on a Sunday in a
specific place, but I don't wantto find myself there without
(07:31):
making some money. Can I somehow.
You know, because let's be honest, OK, after doing comedy
enough, when you travel a lot, every time you go somewhere like
maybe I could just book. You can gig.
And get the flight covered. And then I just go travel on my
own, you know? Yeah, I mean, I wish I had the
foresight, but it was the other way around.
When Muhammad or when, when I somehow it was actually true.
(07:52):
Chrissy in Malaysia. Chrissy.
Yeah, Yeah, right. She was like, oh, you want to go
and do this show in Hong Kong? And then they put me in touch
with Muhammad and then he gave me the date.
Yes. And then it was close enough to
my, my now fiance's birthday. And so I was like, I am going to
Hong Kong. And she said, Oh my God, we can
go to Disneyland. I'm like, yeah, let's go to
Disneyland. And then she, she took like a
long leave from work so that we could also go to China and
(08:14):
everything. And then so we in Singapore, if
you want to buy a house, you, you have to be married.
Yeah, I heard that right. So if you're married, it's
beneficial for like property purchasing and stuff like that?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So, so the, the, the joke in Singapore is you, you don't
propose to your partner, you, you just ask if you want to
apply for a flat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(08:34):
And we and we have applied for the flat.
We have a flat coming in three years time.
All right. Wait, hold on a second.
When we talk flats and all, we can't just say I have a flat, I
have to get specifics. Do they tell you like when you
apply for a flat over there, do you get to choose?
I wanted this size flat with that number of rooms and
everything. All right, So what have you got?
Like what's the number like herein Hong Kong?
We have a four room flat so there's three bedrooms.
Oh my God, first of all, hold ona second.
(08:55):
Let me let's take a let's take astep back, Jackie.
A4 bed, 4 room or four bedroom. So the hall is considered OK,
That's a. Room.
OK and so we have 3 bedroom. Kitchen, Yeah, Kitchen Hall.
Kitchen is 2. Oh no, the kitchen is not
counted in OH. Yeah, yeah, look at you,
Singapore and say, oh, we know this is not a room to us here in
Hong Kong, like anything that has like a three walls at least
(09:18):
where I guess the room. Dude, take it, man.
Like even right now, like like this little room, this is
technically supposed to be the kitchen of this planet.
This was actually the original designated kitchen area.
Fair enough. We decided to switch it up and
make it in our little city studio.
Slash like writing desk slash hanging of the clothes.
Yeah, for like on a on a wet day.
You say you say writing desk, but it's there's no way you can
(09:40):
do writing. Oh no, I I haven't had ever
since Australia, I haven't decided that at all.
This is always. This is OK.
There's a lot of pens on that desk.
Yeah, a lot of pens. There's a lot of pens.
It's the potential writing desk.Fair enough.
Yeah, the potential energy over this.
Very high. The kinetic energy.
Very low. Low.
Yeah, high potential. Yeah.
So OK, so 4 rooms. Do you get to choose which area?
Yeah, So they, So what they do is they'll be like, OK, there
(10:03):
are some flats coming up in thisarea, this area, this area,
this. Area so they get like the then.
You can apply for this area and each time you apply be like 10
bucks. Oh, OK, yeah, yeah.
Handling. Right.
So you don't just apply for 20 different places.
Yeah, yeah. So do do you get to do like, OK
'cause like this sounds like oneof those like multilayered
pyramid schemes. OK then like, you know, like
they we got this one. This is the new thing in the hot
(10:24):
on the block. Everybody come on here and apply
somewhere. So our flat, so like the, the
property market in Singapore, it's, it's going the way of Hong
Kong. It's, it's not, it's not as bad,
but it's, it is rising quite crazy.
Yeah. And people are just flipping it.
And, and so our flat like it's like a new thing by the
government. They've launched this thing
called the prime location flats.Oh, nice.
(10:46):
OK, So this is the first prime location flat the government has
launched in Singapore. And the old flats, you have a
minimum occupancy period of fiveyears, so people will just.
Flip and flip it right? Yeah. 5A day, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. For our case, our flat minimum
occupancy period is 10 years. Are you allowed to rent it out
though? We can rent out bedrooms, we
(11:06):
can't rent out the whole unit. So actually some people do his
they. Just.
They just lock the master bedroom and then they rent out
the whole. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
OK. That's fair.
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
Because that's technically one room that they still living in.
Yeah, yeah. Wow.
Let me, first of all, I really appreciate the fact that you
have a different problem that wedo where you're like, I got too
(11:26):
many rooms, I got to rent something and like, Oh my God, I
don't want to do this room. We have so many rooms.
You can rent the place out and still lock one room and be like
this is a very feasible space. Some people rent out the
bedrooms to try and help cover the mortgage.
Pay for the mortgage right? Which is what my parents did
when they first got married. All.
Right, fair enough. Yeah, a lot of people here as
well. They'll buy a flat and then the
(11:47):
mortgage and they use the rent to cover the mortgage.
But this again comes back to thequestion is where the hell do
they, let's say they rent that place for the mortgage.
Where do they stay? So they can live in the master
bedroom, right? So.
So if they lock, if they lock, yeah, then they or sometimes
people are just rich, like if their parents.
Or the other two. Flats.
Their parents are living in a nice big bungalow.
(12:08):
But you know this, it is the right of every Singaporean that
if you get married, you can go and apply for.
A public flat, Yeah. I've heard of those snobs that
have like, say, 2 flats in the same building.
Exactly. They're just separated by a lift
and stuff and you're going to govisit and stuff like that.
They're the asshole, dude. You know, everyone on the
podcast knows that now. Once in a while all.
Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So let me understand this because this is very fascinating
to me. I know we probably tuned that 20
(12:30):
other people are like, we don't need to know about master
bedrooms. But the question is, you lock
yourself in the master bedroom, right?
You can rent the rest of the flat out.
How do you leave fire escape? No, you can.
Just go through the main door. What's wrong with?
No, but master bedroom coming connected to the main door
directly there must be like a little hallway or something.
Yeah, yeah, you can just walk out the main door.
Why? Why?
Why? But then like, you're renting
the space to someone else. They're like, what the hell?
(12:50):
Like why are you in my hallway? Yeah, but.
It's like an understood thing. It's like an understood thing.
That's so weird man. But also, I think most times
they are like old people and they don't really leave.
And if you're in a master bedroom, you have a toilet.
Yeah, that's true. Old people.
Now the question is this, when they do get, let's say, Food
Panda or delivery service and stuff, does the delivery person
(13:11):
have to go all the way to the master bedroom?
You get like 5 stars. Yeah, you didn't walk all the
way here. I'm not going to the door for
that. Shit, I guess if you if you
leave a. Comment to tell him to come into
the master. That's so weird, man, to do
that, man. Like you have like a yellow line
for the yellow line. The green line is for the the
son. The red line's for the daughter.
Yeah. Wow.
This is bizarre, man. I've never heard like someone
(13:33):
who. Well, fair enough.
If you like. You say if you're old enough,
you'd say, look, I'll leave my house maybe three times a week
Max. I've also seen people that in
they they convert the hall into the master bedroom.
OK. So they will put a bed in there
in front of the TV. OK.
And then they put like maybe just install like a plastic
sliding door. Oh yeah, yeah.
(13:53):
And this is this is where the master of the house is living
in. And then they cut up the rest of
the room. Yeah, yeah.
Into many tiny. Cubical kind of big spaces.
Oh yeah, yeah. Because like we have some of
those here in Hong Kong where they take that main house and
they cut it up enough where everyone's got their own door.
So it's like as it was another apartment.
But the door just leads to another person's.
(14:14):
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
But, I mean, So what it is like,sure.
I believe it's what we call, like the Hong Fong is like, they
take your apartment, OK. And then they redesign the
lining of the walls. So you enter your door, and then
you enter, like, little hall just like you would, let's say,
imagine you come out of the hotel.
Lyft. Yeah.
You know, you have that hallway.All right?
You have the three rooms. Yeah.
That's what they did. They divided the space in the
(14:35):
three rooms. Just essentially just a bit when
you open the door, I mean. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, one of those yeah, yeah. So a lot of those ways like I, I
just have my space and that's good enough.
I have one small window. I'll take it you.
Know yeah like if like when I was still living in my parents I
would be happy to be like, yeah if I can just get out my my
parents place and just live in in Oh yeah a bit like I'll be
I'll be happy to. Do that.
That's true. I just want that your own space,
right. Exactly.
Yeah. Yeah, I totally understand that.
(14:56):
But the good thing is that Jackie has gone to the point now
that he no longer has to try to afford that one bedroom space.
Yeah. You know, he now is.
And in the the the pathway to property ownership, ownership to
home ownership for 10 years. For 10 years, yeah.
Yeah, well, you know, I'll own it for 10 years.
Fine, whatever, you know, I haveto do that.
However, let's take a step back to how you even got to this
(15:17):
place. Now, having this ability to do
these things, for example, coming to Hong Kong, owning
homes, proposing girlfriends andnot getting rejected, stuff like
that, right. Let's go to the original.
OK, so Singapore comedy, like, let's be honest, worldwide, it
is not exactly one of those like, oh, you got to do it, got
it. Singapore comedy, you got to go
there, right. However, recently I have noticed
that Singapore comedy has grown a lot, as in like the homegrown
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talent has grown so much that when you travel the world and
you will see less people like yourself, let's say fuzz, fuzz
and everything representing and trapping the world
internationally to do shows. Tell us a bit more about the
Singapore comedy scene where it was, because I remember
Singapore comedy was more like, let's say, comedy of Salah.
I found a Tuesday morning on Tiger Airways.
That's right, Right. I remember that one.
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Oh, my God, that. And then, like, arriving there.
Do the show fly on Wednesday? I'm out.
It was like one of those, like, 24 hours in.
That's it. Yeah.
Yeah. And that was the scene.
I think that's actually like thestrength of being in Asia.
Yeah. That we that we are well
connected enough and flights don't take that long that you
could do that, right? Like it's less than 24 hours.
You could do a show and be back home.
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Yeah. But the Singapore scene has
grown quite a bit, I would say, before COVID.
Have you ever been to the Mary Lion in Singapore?
No, I have not been to the Mary Lion.
No, no. Yeah, so the Mary Lion was the
first full time club that we had, but it shut down during
COVID. And then today we have a new
comedy club called The Lemon Stand.
Lemon stand. I heard about that one which.
Is I think it's around for like two or three 2 1/2 years now
all. I heard about from everyone one
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is that the spotlight is too bright.
The spotlight's too big. That's all I've heard everyone
of the others say you gotta do so.
But dude, I'm gonna tell you now, man, you're gonna leave the
room and you're gonna have that black spot in your eyes.
I'm like, what? Why do you have a black spot in
my eyes? Like the spotlight's too bright.
I'm like, what is with the spotlight dude?
If we don't have a dimmer like what's going on over here the.
Spotlight is very bright. The owner of the club, God bless
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him. He's a lovely man and he books
shows and he actually sells themout these days, right?
But he, I mean, he's a stubborn man and he doesn't really like
to take our advice on maybe tellhim to turn down the light.
But other than that, it's still a pretty good room.
And now I think he's actually pumped in so much money with
marketing that when you Google for comedy in Singapore, he's
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#1. Wow, that is there's.
A lot of money to pay Google and.
That's a good thing. If you're, for example, anyone
that says comedy and you're the first thought, this is it.
Yeah. I mean, I think that's one of
the things that if you read any of those business books, they
say you need to be the first association people have with
that item, then you've won. Then you've won.
Yeah. And Singapore is a tiny market.
Yeah, right. So he he's essentially done
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that. But so now in Singapore we have
that, we have Masala still goingstrong.
Yeah, we also have East Coast comedy.
That happens. I love it.
I love it. I must say.
Like Singapore being so small, but we're from the East Coast.
It's like, buddy, you're 20 minutes away.
Like relax. Like I could have walked there
within an hour. It is, but I would say it's
actually a very different vibe if you do a comedy show in the
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East and a comedy show in the West and Singapore.
It is a tiny country, but peopleare still different.
I can just imagine that like in the in the show in the East,
like man, back in the West, you know, you know, we wouldn't do
it that way. It's like, wait back in the
what? They will talk shit.
They'll be like, you know, fuck those people in Jurong in the
West. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
They will talk shit like that. Oh, yeah.
It's like Hong Kong with Kowlooninside.
You know, it's like, oh, you went to Kowloon there, you know,
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one of those things. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of
those where people are like, oh,I would never cross.
Why would I need to, you know? Right.
I mean that growing up like likeI guess the example is football
people. Like, why the fuck does
Singapore have a professional league when we ask like 40
minutes east to West? Like, what's the difference
between this place and that place?
But actually there is some kind of minute differences in the way
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people just see things. And it's, it's interesting.
If you do have the time, next time you come to Singapore and
you have more than 24 hours before you have to come back,
yeah, I could take you around and you could see the different
sides of Singapore. I'll be honest with you.
I can imagine that. Because here in Hong Kong,
that's actually one of the things when I go to school is I
talk to kids. And I said honestly, like
different areas of Hong Kong is a completely different vibe.
I have this whole joke about howI'm taking the train as the
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train stops change, the racism differs as well.
You know, like they look like, oh, this guy must be doing this,
you know, 3 stations. Oh, you must be doing that
right? It just changed like this guy,
I, I go from central, they're like, oh, this guy's a banker.
OK, You know, 5 stations later, oh, this guy's, you know his
construction site. I'm like, wait, what?
I didn't do shit, you know, but I was like that's and I believe
that. Same with the Singapore, like
once you go in a few stations like alright, this area for
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sure. You're gonna feel it, yeah.
You have that now. The thing though is that I do
remember, like Singapore having a lot of, you know, comedians
and a lot of the comedy was moreabout, you know, Singapore,
Malaysians, Indians, Chinese andeverything.
I have noticed though, that the more seasons comedians are doing
less of that. Yeah.
I feel is it. Would you say it's the evolution
of Asian comedy or even Singapore comedy in general
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'cause like, I feel maybe over there every open mic or does
that right? Yeah.
So typically, hey, there's some high Indian friend, right?
He does. It's like, we get it.
That's an open mic level. Yeah.
Do you find like I saw your set?At Base Hall as well.
And a lot of it has to do just with your general daily life.
Have you found the maturity thatyou have as a comedian?
Did that come from because you traveled as they went to
Melbourne and saw all these comedians like okay, so it's not
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just about new people, 20 peopleand you're like, okay, just tell
in your life, I get it. Was it that or did you outgrow
it? For me, I remember I kind of
outgrew where I'm like, oh, OK, I don't want to still see talk
My oh, I'm Indian. I speak and he's like, really,
I'm still doing that, right? Like that that's way overdone.
Like what's happening with my life as well.
What, what, what? What do you think?
I think for me, like even starting out it, I've never felt
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super comfortable talking about race.
OK, OK. Because like as a Chinese in
Singapore, like like I'm the majority race.
So if I'm talking about Indians in the Malays, then I'm kind of
like punching down. Yeah.
So it is a bit more. I mean, it's not that I don't do
it at all, but I've never been super comfortable doing that.
I've always just I felt more comfortable talking about
myself, my family, my my observations.
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But it's it's it's nice that when I start travelling, then
this jokes actually translate much easier.
Yeah, when I travel. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. As opposed to if I was talking
about some very specific race nuances in Singapore that maybe
can crush really hard in Singapore.
It's just harder for people to accept when you're especially in
like a western country like Melbourne, people would really
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pull back at things like that. I'm going to ask you this, yo,
when you went to Melbourne, the first time I watched show and
when you did like spots over there, did you get the cultural
shock? I wouldn't, I wouldn't say
cultural shock, but like more ofthe shock of like the level of
political correctness. We're like, whoa, OK, whoa, this
isn't OK. We're not allowed to go there,
you know, or like you won't go there or you feel awkward about
that because like my first time ever, I'll be honest with you,
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when I went to the US and I did shows at the Laugh Factory, I
was coming from Hong Kong and all I knew was like, you know
what, you know, So India, right?I mean, right.
And over there I remember like Ithink I was doing the the
funniest person in the world competition.
Richard Lewis was one of the judges, all right.
And now I'm like, Oh my God, Richard Lewis.
And I remember I went up there, I did some, oh, I had this,
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this, this joke in the beginning.
I'm like, oh, I'm Indian. I'm not what was it?
I'm not oh, Indian, I'm na na nana na Indian, right, right.
I now here in Asia and stuff, it's hilarious, right?
Dude, I went there and I went onthere.
I I believe I opened with that. And I remember seeing Richard
Lewis face go like, right, right, OK.
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And I was like, does he don't get it?
Like this is this is America, they should get it even more
right. You know, I mean, I'm not like,
don't you know the Indians that you guys took over and
everything? And then later on, as I grew and
I went to Melbourne, I was like,in this world, they're like,
yeah, we don't do that, Yeah. Well, with Melbourne, so I don't
have that much experience in theWest, right?
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It's really just Melbourne and I've been to Perth this year.
Yeah. So this year Melbourne was
interesting because I got to host a show out in Collingwood.
There's the suburbs and it's allwhite people, right?
And I think they're actually less politically correct the
further you get out from the city.
Yeah, No one's trying to be too proper over there.
They're like, aren't Chinese people this way?
Yeah. So in the city is where it's
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really, I guess people are more cautious about how they're
perceived. Yeah, yeah.
But once you start getting into the suburbs, it's not as
sensitive. So it's interesting the way that
even in a place that we think oris, you have to be PC, there are
still places where different types of comedy can thrive.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, right. Whereas I think in Asia, because
the scene is still so young, where I think we all kind of
look at comedy and we think, like, OK, there is a certain set
of rules that we have to abide by.
Yeah. And that's how we progress as a
scene. But I think we're hoping that we
can get to a point where any type of comedy, any type of
comedian can find their own space to thrive.
And then as a whole, we can all grow together.
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Yeah, Yeah. I think that's the one thing
I've learned over time is that you may grow as a comedian, but
there's still an audience who may be newcomers.
Yeah. Just like, let's say, a wine
drinker. You're always going to have the
bunch of people who just want toget drunk.
Yeah. Right.
So like, and you're like, why would you waste this wine?
Just get drunk. Like, that's what I want, you
know? So in the same with the comedy,
no matter how you grow. And I've noticed this like over
the years that when I see commies, I'm like, OK, I I see
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what you're doing there. Yeah, I get the joke, you know,
la, la, la. However, there's always gonna be
an artist who's like, that is sofunny.
Yeah, I've never. Oh, my God, That's, that's
genius. Like, dude, that is like such a
hack. Yeah, like such a hacky joke.
But yeah, there's that as well. Do you, how do you quality
control yourself in general now that you've travelled more?
And you also your, would you sayyou have to represent Singapore
a bit as well when you're travelling and doing shows
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around? Like, do you feel that pressure?
I don't feel the pressure, but it is something that I would
like to do. Yeah, right.
Represent Singapore or. Up your game.
I don't know about Rep, I don't know about representing
Singapore, but like, this is my,my first exposure to stand up
is, is me watching all these American comedians.
Yeah, right. And I, I learned so much about
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American culture listening to them.
And so when it, when it was whenI had the opportunity to do
opportunity to do stand up, thenit, it feels, feels to me like I
should try and show the world Singaporean culture.
Yes, through my stand up. Yeah.
And so that's what I, I try to do as much as I can.
I think a lot of comedians in Singapore, they get very
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self-conscious. They be like why?
Why would why would why would anyone want?
To, yeah, that's my point, yeah.But that's what people that
watch comedy is watching you for.
Yeah. Right.
No, like then they're no, nobody's watching you to try and
pretend to be an American. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If somebody's coming out to watch you as a Singaporean
comedian or a Hong Kong comedian, then they want to hear
about what Hong Kong is like. They want to hear about what
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Singapore is like. And I think that is something
that we should be more proud of and try to push as opposed to
trying to emulate some kind of comedian that you idolize.
Yeah, true. I mean, that would be quite
silly, like being a cover band, you know, like, we don't really
need cover band comedians, although there are many cover
band comedians. I would say something like, I
know you're probably heavily influenced by that person, but
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that's literally their joke. Exactly.
Literally said the exact same joke.
It doesn't work that way over here.
Yeah. OK, Now you, you let's
understand a few more things. So Singapore comedy scenes
growing a lot. Would you say now you are at
that point where the new kids inSingapore, they coming on to the
comedy scene? Like, Oh my God, that's joking.
That's joking. Oh my God.
Some of them do that, but I, I, you know, I'm in the same green
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room as them. We're in the same backstation.
If you're, if you're talking to me, I'm not, I'm not trying to
like. Yeah, be all be like, yeah,
yeah. But I, I guys, guys, keep it
down, OK, Keep it down. All right?
You know, I mean, you know. But sometimes they come up to me
and they be like, do you have some advice?
Yeah. And what the fuck do you want me
to say? Oh yeah, yeah, that's the
hardest man. Yeah, just get funny.
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny.
The I just will tell you if you're good or not.
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That's all. You know, I can't tell you how
to improve it. Let them tell you how to.
Exactly. Yeah.
All right. Now let's take a few things
because I'm I'm very curious because we've known each other
for long enough now that we've seen each other as you could
even be like amateur level or semi professional level to the
point that now I could say that we are strong enough comedians
that we can create our destiny in our careers, right?
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So in other words, like same foryou is that technically you have
the power to be flown or even gooverseas to do shows, hence why
you have the power to create a destiny.
Now, whether you create it or not, that secondary and also
whether or not there are other people approve of your destinies
to another point. However, now that you have that
freedom or ability to create it,what is usually the driving
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force for you as a comedian to, you know, travel the world, do
shows, you know, what's the motivator?
Because like a lot of you know, every, I'm sure every newspaper
interviews like so you know, howdo you find your inspiration?
But I'm I'm not about inspiration.
I don't care about that because like that's anywhere, right?
Everyone, I'll use daily life, right.
But what is the drive to keep doing?
Is it peer pressure? You see, like, oh, he's doing
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that. I better do something like that
as well. Is it you go where I wanna show
these new kids I'm the shit? Is it fear, for example?
Oh my God, if I don't do it, I'mgonna be forgotten.
I better get my shit straight. Or is it simply trying to, I
don't know, the 4th or whatever it is for yourself?
But this is what I love to do ismy favorite thing to do going on
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stage doing stand up. I've tried, you know, doing
improv and it's kind of fun, butI don't like, I don't really
like sharing the stage with anyone else.
I've been saying this to everybody.
I'm very selfish on stage. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so that's this is, this is
what I love to do. And I, but I guess there's a big
part of me that's also afraid that if this doesn't work out,
if I, if I don't get to travel as much doing this or I don't
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get paid as much doing this, then I'm going to have to go and
go back into the office. Yeah, right.
I was working in a, in a contentcompany during COVID.
And the moment COVID ended and we could fly, I was like, I'm
fucking done with this. I don't want to, I just don't
want to do this anymore. And so there's a big part of me
that's like, oh, if I, if this doesn't work out, then I'm going
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to have to go back into working for someone.
Yeah. And that is just not.
I don't. Think you could ever go back,
man? That's the one thing.
I think as a comedian, now that you've experienced this and also
you've seen the world, you're like, yeah, yeah.
Because I think this is 1 freedom that like Jerry
Seinfeld, once I read stand up comedy is kind of being on a
surfboard with just you in the waves.
Yeah. And once you've experienced
that, you really it's really hard to go back to a big boat.
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Yeah. Have to deal with like the
captain and this that you're like, I want to go surf now.
Yeah. You know.
And just the idea that you can create your own destiny, you
know, that's that's the beauty of stand up comedy is like,
well, write a show and do a show.
That's it. Yeah, try and sell something.
Yeah, that's pretty much that Someone will buy it whether or
not the enough numbers to make ends meet the secondary.
But you have that. But what's the like, what's
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what's the what's the downs downtime, Jackie, like what's you
generally on a daily basis? Like, for example, right, MO
always makes the joke about how I'm like a psycho with work
where I will keep myself busy, right, You know, like I will.
I will not be single. Like, oh, you know what, I'll
take a day off like a day off. The hell you mean day off, you
know, so what's the down time you because it usually what I
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find is when I talk to comediansis that the down time version of
them Co relates to their style of comedy.
So, for example, with myself is that a lot of my comedy is like
high energy. I'm talking about this.
If that happened over there, I'mgoing to lose my shit and
everything, but that's because that's my downtime.
Me, I'm losing my shit when I'm in my downtime, you know, I mean
I'm going some places. What about yourself?
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Like what's your downtime version of of Jackie?
I like to think I'm pretty chill, you know?
Actually, this year when I was in Melbourne, in the house that
I was living in, I, I mentioned my, it's my friend's house, but
my friend wasn't in Melbourne. He was, he was back in
Singapore, but I was living in his house.
Oh. Wait, hold on a second.
So you are one of two things. You're either like those renters
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in Singapore when the master bedroom's locked, or you're the
equivalent to, like, a ghost haunting his house, isn't it?
Like technically, Yeah, right. Kind of, but also so he had
another guy living in the house,but the other guy was actually
living in a van behind the house.
Whoa, this is in Melbourne? This is in Melbourne dude, this
is so. Melbourne right there.
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Yes, yes, I'm gonna I'm I'm a guest system.
I don't want no, I'm I don't know the.
Accent but this guy is 60 years old and his RIP his fucking rip.
And he wakes up in the morning. He does 100 push ups, Okay, He
does more than 100 push up. He does like some calisthenic
workout and shit, yes. And so I was living there with
him for the whole month and he'sinfluenced me.
So now I at least I wake up in the morning.
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I do 100 push ups. Really.
Yeah. Damn.
Dude, I do 100 push ups like in three sets maybe like 403525,
yeah. That's what I is there, music
playing in the background. No, actually.
Is this pre brushing teeth or post brushing teeth?
This is pre brushing teeth. Pre brushing teeth.
I make my coffee and I have it in between my sets in.
Between the sets, you have a coffee.
All right, so you're doing thosesets now.
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Do you count downwards 100 and 9998 or do you count upwards?
You count upwards all right? Are you allowed to, for example,
do less than 33 each set? Kind of.
I mean, it's really up to me. It's.
Just as long as you hit 100 you don't care if you like 10/10/10,
10:10 or. So that's how I started, right?
Like when I, the first day I waswith him when he was doing push,
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I couldn't do five. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then like throughout the week, it got me up to five.
And then like, OK, let's do foursets of five to get 20.
And then now I can I can do 100 in three sets.
Yeah, have you, have you ever considered like having like an
only fans page? Where it's just me doing
pushups. You do pushups.
There must be an audience who's into that kind of stuff.
I mean, I'm not against it. Yeah, I could try it out.
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Because all you have to do is like if you can set a fixed time
all right, so this is my business proposal to you, right?
You have a camera. The camera is always live
streaming, but only like faces one particular wall.
You can't see nothing that's happening in the room, no audio.
So you don't have to worry aboutcapturing a sound.
All it knows is that every everyday 9:00 AM Singapore time.
I'm there doing this. Camera will have someone doing
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push ups. Now if you're travelling, you
will find an equivalent body double or whatever to do that,
OK And that guarantees that we're 9:00 AM and the idea is
you've got the the only fans creeps, OK And you've got the
only fans people who really wantto be motivated, OK, you get it.
And they're like, and basically,and then what you do, you do
your push ups, you do 100 of them and then you have to be out
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of it. Do the whole day, you know,
breath and then give them a speech, right, my friends?
Zoom give up, you know. I go every day.
I mean, I could be here. I could be in my bed.
Yeah, but I decided to chase another day.
Yeah. And today you did it as well,
right? You do one of those things,
dude. I'm not.
I'm not against it, but I think the problem with only fans,
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honestly is that it's a it's a slippery slope, yes.
Like, it's maybe if you can havea bunch of people that want to
be motivated and then maybe a few creeps.
Yeah. But I think the law of averages
suggests that there will be an equal amount of these two
people. But creeps are always more
willing to pay money than peoplethat want to be more people.
So what you can do, because it kind of works your advantage,
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like you're doing pushups every day.
OK, you're starting to get ripped.
You're getting ripped. You feel more confident in your
body. You show a little bit more arm,
right? Creeps are donating more money,
You get more ripped. You can buy protein powder, you
get all the creatine, all that kind of shit.
Now you're feeling even better because you have the six pack.
You take the the top off, then you get more ripped because now
you're going to throw in some squats as well because I mean,
push the fake, make the money anymore.
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You got squats, you got those legs of steel.
Now you're wearing the little tidy kind of bodybuilder thing.
Yeah, you see. So that's when it when it
becomes a bit iffy for me. So it's.
It's like if I'm, if I'm just working out and doing my thing
to get money, sure. But if I am actually selling my
body now, then it becomes and then and then at what point do I
say no? Because they're just going to
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keep asking for more. True, right?
And then one day we're like, could you do your push ups
naked? And I'm like fuck.
Yeah, otherwise I will not donate.
Anymore. Yeah.
So that's the slope that I'm kind of afraid of.
All right, OK. But my only fans, I heard
they're actually producing comedy specials in LA.
Well, for some, I'm sure some channels.
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Yeah, like they're being like Frankie Marcos.
Have you met Frankie Marcos? Frankie Marcos, he comes to
Singapore quite often. He I think he's recording a
special for Only Fans. Oh, wow.
And they're doing that with a bunch of comedians because I
think Only Fans just wants to diversify them, like.
They need to, man. Yeah, of course.
Because like everyone's like, I'm not going to sign up for
that shit. I'm in trouble.
Like I have to sign up for that shit if this guy's on it.
Yeah, dude, that would be so crazy if like, let's say people
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didn't read the fine print. And they subscribe, Yeah.
And then just your. This guy just talking.
I was like, I get he's talking, but like when's the you know the
actually I'm the only fan here that's listening, dude.
Wow man, that would be the day dude.
Yeah, I mean, if only fans is isout in Asia and you want to do
some comedy, you can get his pockets on there, Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. Not fair enough, man.
I mean like for the right price,you know, I might, I don't know
where Speedos. If I actually they can't see
what we're wearing below our shit.
Well, actually already in Speedos.
That's very true. I'm showing like, I'm showing a
lot of like, but I'm not only fans there for no leg viewing.
Maybe the day will come and I amreally on only fans and trust
me, there'll be a lot of hair. There will be one more camera
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pointing from below exactly and.Let me just say it will be a
wide angle lens. I'm making an extra.
Everything is extra wide, extra long, man, dude, Okay, so now
can we get into the the the thing that you mentioned your
engaging thing today. All right, Can we get into that
right. This is because I'm sure
everyone's kind of like we don'tcare about your comedy life.
We're not comedians. We don't care about everything.
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That's for me only all right, soyou woke up today.
Yeah, All right, you were like, all right, today's the day, man,
today's the day. This is the day I'm going to do
all that shit. It's going to be magical.
You know, we're going to go overthere, me and my girlfriend over
here. You know my girlfriend for the
last time, you know, I'm trying to sing this word.
You know anybody refers to it asgirlfriend.
I'm an unfriendly motherfuckers.They don't know shit right?
You woke up. Did you have to okay, let's
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compare it to you doing a headline to set for the first
time right? New material.
You kind of worked it out. You workshopped it a bit
additional where you talk to your friends about it, Like,
okay, you I have to put it on that game page.
So like, yeah, no big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Honey, you want some coffee? Yeah, yeah, we went for
breakfast. All that shit, no big deal.
She's just eating. You're like, you're like, you
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have no idea. Yeah, actually that's what I've
been doing. I've been taking like, did you
ever use Telegram, the messaging?
Oh yeah, yeah, you get to send Telebubbles.
Yeah, yeah, I would. I would send a bubble of her to
to my like our mutual friend, but she has no idea.
Yeah, she has no idea. It's it's like, it's like when
you have the solid show, yeah, And you're behind the curtains
watching the I just come in. They're like, you have no idea.
Yeah, there's no clue. You came in here like, oh, let's
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look at the program. Oh, he's, it says he's a
comedian in Hong Kong. OK, this is interesting.
And the best part is like when you know, you've done a bit and
you're like, this bit kills every time.
And you're like, oh, we're goingto get there, man.
These guys are sitting there listening to me.
You have no idea. In the next 5 seconds, bitch,
you're going to be laughing. Yeah, right.
You will not see this one coming.
So you left your house, all the stuff, having breakfast,
everything is good. Setting those telegram bubbles
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every now and then. All right, you get into Disney.
Yeah. All right.
You did the whole boring lineup.And did you have to?
So before that when we were having breakfast in the chat,
something I I make sure I grab abunch of napkins because I know
that when I pop the question, she is very likely she's going
to cry. OK, OK.
Yeah. So that will be ready for that.
Be smart move. Don't buy your own.
Don't. Buy my own?
Yeah. Yeah, because I'm already paying
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for breakfast. I'm going to get something.
Yeah, exactly. It's fair enough, you know.
All right, so now at what point did you find yourself trying to
over normalize, for example, youknow, like you're lining up
right? And and you, you know, in your
heart you're like nervous but also excited.
You know, you've got that feeling right where you're like,
this could be good, man. It's all right, right?
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Yeah, but you're lining up waiting to get in and you, you
can't be all like, OK, let's we're gonna have a good time
learning. This could be great.
You know, you just gotta go like, Oh my God, look at this
line. No.
So this is the one smart thing that I think I did is I bought
early access. Oh, OK, OK, OK, so you.
Get to you can buy it like I think it's like 30 bucks.
You get to enter Disneyland an hour early before before the
(38:45):
normal people. That is such a genius Disney
plan thing. Yeah, you open at 9:00, but
we're getting even early access.Yeah, that means you open at
8:00. No, no, no.
For this price you do. Yeah, no, it's like I think if
you live in a, if you're living in a in a Disneyland property in
one of the hotels, then you get earlier, you get an even earlier
1, you get 15 minutes before early entry. 15 minutes, buddy.
(39:06):
5 minutes, yeah. And do let it go.
Yeah, so, so we technically evendidn't even fully utilize that
one hour pre entry. We went for breakfast.
Yeah, that's something. So we got there, they opened at
10, we got there at 9:30. So they were like, OK, you have
30 minutes extra, you can just enter right now.
And we enter in there. And I'm just like, I know that
(39:27):
like we are not we are not massive Disney fans, but like
the opportunity was there for usto just go and check out
Disneyland. So sure.
And then so I was like leading up to the tremor, like do you
have any characters you like? Is there any place in Disneyland
you like? Whatever.
And she was like, she only like,the only character that she kind
of really likes is Mr. Potato Hit from Toy Story.
Right. And you're like, that's a bit
specific, right? It's very specific and so I'm
(39:49):
like, it's either I wait until Ican find Mr. Potato hit.
And then do. It and then do it in front of
him. But I'm and I saw I tried
Googling, I don't think he's he's ever going to show up.
And then I'm like, OK, I'm just going to have to fill it out.
Like if I feel it, I'm just going to do it.
And then when we entered it and I just saw the castle and I'm
like, just this is it, this is it.
(40:09):
And then I'm just like, Nah. So I went up to one of the staff
and I'm like, hey, can you just take a picture for us?
And then I whispered to him, I'mactually going to propose and
just take a video. She's like, now I'm like, yes.
And then and then I did it. And so it was, it was nice
because the castles and the viewis not crowded.
Yeah. You know, I think both of us,
we, we, we do get panicky when it's too crowded.
(40:31):
Yeah. So it was just it was perfect.
And the fact that it happened atthe beginning of the day means
we can enjoy the rest of the daywithout me.
Yeah, thinking about it like, ohGod, you know, she, she stumbled
over. Oh shit.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
And so, and this is the other thing, though.
So the friend that I was consulting, he's actually, his
name is Sam, Sam Shin. He's a designer.
(40:53):
He's my friend from the ARMY. And he's he's he's homosexual.
Yeah. And he knows he's just like, OK,
this is one thing you got to consider, Jackie.
You can do it at night where thefireworks is up.
It's going to be very crowded. It's going to be very messy.
But also her makeup won't be as good.
Yeah, I see you if you do. It first thing in the morning,
the makeup is. Perfect.
Everything's good. The video will look good and
(41:15):
last. OK actually, Yeah, it's perfect.
And I think from the men's perspective, it's just that you
got to think that proposing is one of your few trump cards
where you can actually play and then have a good day.
Yeah. Nothing can go wrong after you
propose. If you propose at 9:00 PM, yeah,
sure. Maybe you go home and have sex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you propose in the
morning, this is the one day youcan say whatever you want and
(41:38):
you can fuck up whatever. Yeah, it would be fine.
So I like to think that it was well played by me today.
Nice, smart movement before everybody goes in.
This is what I tell people, man.Early bird catches the worm.
You know, that's why ladies wakeup early.
That's right. You never know that, but that
might be the day your man walks out with you together and he's
like oh, hey, hey, hey, hey. You know what I mean?
Yeah, it could be. Oh, there you go.
First of all, congratulations. Well done.
(41:59):
Thank you. That happened.
All the stuff now that happened.You did the whole ring thing.
All right, And then I'm curious now.
It wasn't like, you know, how typically they have like a
little sachet, you know, newly man like engaged in one of those
things. You know, she's walking around
with the little crown and all. None of that.
Right. No, no, no.
Well, it was. Only for the two of you to know,
(42:20):
not for everyone. Hey, everyone, look it up.
OK, OK. It was a birthday 2 days ago, so
when we entered Disneyland they also gave us a pin to tell
everyone it's her birthday. That's good.
Everywhere she went, happy birthday, and that's enough.
Yeah, that's enough attention. We don't need the extra stuff,
right? You have to fight.
It's for us to know. Shut up.
You know, we don't need you. Exactly.
All right, so you walked around and everything.
Now, did you find yourself beinga little bit more generous with
(42:42):
enjoying certain things? For example, you see the snack
bar or whatever? Like we come on, man, Let's get,
let's get, let's get angry, you know, come on, let's get angry,
you know, that's, you know, engaged couple.
Come on. Yeah.
This is my last night in Hong Kong, right?
Tomorrow we are we're taking thehigh speed real to Shenzhen.
Yeah. So whatever Hong Kong dollars I
have, I'm happy to just spend them in this.
Oh. Dude, yeah man.
(43:03):
So. Whatever it is.
So you were out there like let me remind you, Disneyland record
like one of the biggest profits they ever had in last year.
So they probably had a lot of people doing what you did.
I stay in Hong Kong. I have all these like, you know,
they spend it all over there. But also I think food in
Disneyland isn't crazily overpriced.
Yeah, for an amusement park. It is definitely overpriced, but
it's not like compared to the Universal Studios.
(43:25):
Yeah, it's ridiculous. Right.
It's actually fine. It was pretty fair price,
whatever we've had, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's tasty too. So you've been walking around
over there. Was it a little bit of a like
the hand holding happened a bit more than usual, right?
It was a bit more of that. We're like, hey, we're holding
differently now. You know there's a different
meaning behind it, right? You did that.
Was the selfies a bit extra as well?
(43:46):
Did you do a few more extra selfies because it was a
special? Day we had to take a few more
just to make sure the ring is inthe shot the ring that I got for
her it's so she's told me beforethis specific ring that she
wants yeah this is a custom madering yes right and I messaged
the ring shop like a week ago and they're like it takes four
(44:07):
to six weeks to make this ring but they were kind enough to be
like hey you know what you're going to propose we're going to
send you the sample ring that wehave in the shop take the sample
ring. Propose.
Get that done, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
And then when you come back to Singapore, we will get the
measurements and then we will all.
Right. The question is, does she know
the sample ring? Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, she does.
Oh, damn it. OK.
Because we, we, we're going to have to book an appointment for
her to get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(44:29):
So like. Before we came out here, I did a
crowd work show in Singapore. Nice.
And so the last few time I've been do I do crowd work?
I, I always ask the audience like so I, I need to propose.
The house is coming. We need to this.
I'm asking for ideas and I'm just like, did I ask 11
audience? Do you think it's cute if I just
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propose with like an appointmentcard to the studio, Huh.
And then so she knows we're going to this place to get a
ring she wants. And then she says every single
lady in the crowd just like you fucking idiot.
No, you. Can't do that you.
Fucking dumb ass. So I'm glad I think isn't.
As a comedian, I'm I'm happy that my audience played a part
(45:11):
in helping make today as a special.
Video. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
As well, Yeah. Nice, man.
Well, I mean, you enjoyed the day all that stuff happened and
ironically you decided to come to the podcast directly after
that. So yeah, that is because.
You're going to Shenchen tomorrow and it's so and I, you
know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I I'm a big fan of you. And thank you, I'm just happy.
(45:32):
Appreciate it. But you spent some time well,
there you go people. This is why you need to listen
to this podcast. That's right, because after
proposing Jack, you decide you know much more important right
now is to spend some quality time with Vivek.
Yeah, exactly. And his and his legs.
Exactly. He knows his priorities, man.
But the good thing is that we'llbe talking a bit more about
other things, all things comedy,slash, his proposal, whatever
(45:52):
special stuff on the Patreon, which will be happening in the
next two minutes time. So anybody else who views like,
oh, that sounded very interesting.
I wonder what they'll talk about.
I won't let you know until you listen to it on the
patreonpatreon.com/hoho pod. You can just subscribe and join
in right now. Listen to what we're going to be
yapping about. How many people subscribe to the
Patreon? Mohammed knows all that stuff,
OK? Like as I was telling Jackie the
(46:14):
usually the deal, what I had from day one was like during the
episode, while we're recording, I'll be in charge of all the
cameras, all the equipment and everything.
I'll make sure it sounds everything's right and all that
stuff I'll supply with my cameras, whatever, you know?
It's a lot. Once we finish that stuff, I
send MO the audio recording and I give him the thumbnail for the
for the episode. And after that, I don't know
nothing about it, man. Like, you figure it out, dude.
(46:37):
Just find the guest, tell me when we're gonna get it done.
That's it. That's it.
Yeah. So that's why he also told me
to. Yeah, that's why he was the
person for all this. Like literally people that mess
me, I wanna be on your podcast. I'm like, tell me I am not cuz I
had to draw that line. You know you want to like
otherwise you start and then OK,I'll do that as well.
I'll do that and then you're screwed.
Yeah. You have that?
Yeah, Yeah. But I maybe for all you know, I
might change things up and do itall by myself on the Patreon.
(46:59):
OK, we'll figure it out when we go over there.
But Jackie, with How do people follow you online?
I'm on Instagram, Jackie on comedy, or you can just go to my
website Jackie dot SG. Jackie dot SG.
That's right dude, you got Jackie dot SG?
You got Jackie dot SG? Eventually anyone thinking about
like oh, Oh well, I want to I want to be the Jackie Oh wow,
this is the Jackie dot SG Jackiedot SG That's right, Jackie in
(47:20):
comedy as in JACKYNG. That's right COMEDY no
underscores right, no underscores Jackie in comedy.
Otherwise Jackie dot SG go checkhim out.
He'll be traveling around the world.
If you happen to be in Shenzhen and see someone that looks like
Jackie, this probably was him. If you see him with, I don't
know, another man, that's probably not him.
It's not me. Right.
Yeah, exactly. And if you see him getting his
ass whooped by an MMA fighter, that could be.
(47:42):
Yeah, that's why it's by him. Anyway, It's a Muay Thai, not
Emma. Muay Thai.
Muay Thai. Yeah, I mixed it up.
Anyway, either way, we'll see you on the Patreon.
If not, we'll see you on the next episode.
Thanks so much, Jackie, for joining us over here.
Everyone check out. He is the Singapore Jackie, as
in Jackie dot SG. And he'll be back with more
comedy. And if you ever travel the
world, I see Jackie doing the show, go check it out because it
is funny. Thank you.
All right. See ya.
(48:03):
Bye.
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