#226 - World-touring Comedian Victor Pãtrãşcan Doesn't Believe in Borders

Romanian comedian Victor Pãtrãşcan has been on the road for 5 years non-stop. He stops by Hong Kong for his first time to headline, and we catch up with him before the show. We chat about the reason he self-produces his shows, racketeering, and Europe's lack of borders.

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Episode Transcript

(00:01):
So I reiterate here, the bill isdead.
The story of this great city is about the years before this
night. We are free.

(00:21):
Oh wow, I haven't even said anything and you're already
applauding? Right 11 applaud 1 applaud the
silence gets one speaking might get to.
Hopefully you get more than one.Exactly.
Hey everyone, Hello. Oh, we're rolling.
We're starting. This is Ho Ho Hong Kong, back
after a mini break with great. What is that guest?

(00:42):
I forgot whose title is what. Oh wow.
And some guy, some guy is goes first.
Some guy and some other guy and guest.
No guest. Guest is the mean one.
But you're the guy, Yeah, you'rethe guy who has faced a lot of
people recently. My goodness, man.
I faced like, what the hell? At one guy I faced over 7000
people. At another guy I faced only like
3000 people. Yeah, that's another guy I faced

(01:02):
around 5:00. People all with me, kind of
talking to them. Between in between the Jimmy O
Yang shows you did in Hong Kong and Macau, you also did your own
show. I did my own solo show that was
like, how many shows? 1500 people.
Amazing. Yeah.
Yeah, Yeah. So I did that.
But it's three shows. Three, 3 * 500.
Yeah. Yeah.
But still over three days. Yeah.
It's pretty sweet, man. Yeah.
It's pretty good. Thank you.
Thank you. That's pretty cool.
All right, I'll take that. I now I now introduce back to

(01:24):
everybody or when people ask me about him, I'm like he's great,
he's working himself to death, which is exactly what I told
Victor outside. Him like he?
Absolutely. Did he will pass away one day in
the middle of a show? Yeah.
But until then, he's doing great.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, he will perish.
He's. Dude, what do you love?
Literally. Yeah, right over there.
So no, it's been a crazy last few weeks.
Which is why, if anyone will realize this camera would limit

(01:45):
it to 1 camera. Yes.
No other angle is presentable. No.
Oh yeah. This house is a goddamn mess.
Everything have you like, Victor?
Like first of all, we have a guest today, Victor with us.
Yes, Victor, Patras Khan is how you say your last.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
Is that, is there a like a Romanian way like Patras, Patras
Khan? It is.
I was guessing actually it is Patras Khan, Patras Khan to say

(02:06):
that. Yeah.
Do you let people just say Patras Khan?
Whatever. How it's Yeah.
It's like we're not making careers here.
Hey, man, this is fine. It doesn't matter.
Between the three of us, yeah, he's at about 60,000 followers.
You're 188 something. I'm 3000.
So the three of we're. Averaging it, yeah.
I mean, no, no. But if you add everybody

(02:29):
following listening, you're talking to 300,000.
It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people.
You're more important than you realize.
Victor not I think you are. No, I just tell the jokes and
make people uncomfortable, like,yeah, this is not real.
I don't think we should take this seriously.
Except for the ticket buyers. Take that very seriously.
Buy those tickets seriously. Yes, enjoy the show.
Seriously. Show up.

(02:50):
You know, like, you know, be like, yeah, whatever will go for
you want to go. Doesn't really matter.
I don't think you want people tobuy your ticket ironically.
No, no, no. It's like, I don't want people
to come to the show going like, oh, this is going to be fun.
Yeah, it's not going to be. Fun.
Hey, exactly. They're like, how not fun could
it be? Let's go watch the show.
Yeah. Yeah, because that's the idea.
If people don't come for fun, then if there is a little bit,
they're going to be like, Oh my God, yeah, it was fun.

(03:12):
That's the idea. You want people.
So basically you're just settingtheir expectations, like really
loud. Yeah, come to cry.
And if you laugh then? It's a win, win, kind of.
Thing I just realized this is not on camera.
I just realized your socks are two different colors.
Yes. Is that on?
Purpose. Yes, well, it's, it's
technically when I was like 17 or 18, I spent about 10-15

(03:34):
minutes looking for the other sock, right?
And then I realized by myself, Iwas like, why am I spending my
life looking for the other sock?Sure.
Nobody. Nobody's going to notice it.
Well, some idiot like me goes hey man.
There is a thing like the socks are different colors but they're
the same length because I wouldn't go with the short one
and the long one because. That's just insane, because

(03:56):
that's just Mr. Bean Basic. Yeah, no.
No, I bet you that idea of having different color socks
that no one would ever know. Yeah, you didn't realize in Asia
that that technique would not work.
Why? Because we take our shoes off
when we enter the house. But then it's a topic of
conversation. Look how interesting it is.
That is very true. I mean.
We've opened this. When there are three guys in a
room, we run out of stuff to talk about real quick.

(04:18):
Actually the two, three of us, if we are to talk about
something we have in common, it's just facial hair.
Facial hair. You can talk about that for the
next, not only for the next hour.
So for everybody who's not, who can't, is not watching the
video, you should imagine half our faces covered, yes.
We got a head slowly, slowly uncovered.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
I feel like we're in a competition who's going to be

(04:39):
less hairy on the face and leasthairy on the head.
Basically what's happening is the rotation.
Imagine like with the Earth, ourface of the earth and the
sunlight is one side of it and the darkness to the other is
actually still 50 percent, 50%. It's just that the 50% is going
downwards to our chins and the other, the head part is going
emptier. So it's actually rotating from
the back of your head slowly down.

(05:01):
You get it? We're literally.
Visual. We don't get this English not
the first language. What's going on?
Three of us, no. Hold on, let me.
I lost track of this. Is this on Imagine You're the
Son? Yeah.
I mean, for three, three guys who are in here, technically we
are all sons. So hey, it depends on.
Somebody some some disappointingpatterns that wish that we were

(05:24):
engineer. Exactly right.
Yeah, They're kind of like, well, they did engineer the
joke, but we'll take that. Anyways, to meet you.
OK, So wait, wait. I want to finish with you before
we get to Victor. All right?
You're. So what the fuck are you doing
this? Last thing, it is too much.
It is insaneful. Yeah.
Hey. Hey.
How? Humility is not my middle name.
You should. Chill out.
Yeah, you just so. So just to recap with everything

(05:45):
I got to do the Jimmy O Yang opening shows in Hong Kong,
right? So tune into our last episode
shortly before this one. You'll get to that story.
Yeah. And then we finished that.
You're about to have to before Macau.
You're about to do your own song.
Yes, I did my solo Cantonese show, so that was just me and it
was over the the next weekend and it did that.
And yeah, the Jimmy O Yang show did help me sell around let's

(06:06):
say 2025% of my tickets. I just sold it all out.
So that was good. I did that one.
That was pretty cool because that was me doing my typical on
brand signature of me producing,me directing, me running the
whole show and also me performing in the show.
Yeah. Like literally me going like,
OK, you can press this button atthis time and I'll go up there
and say this joke. Yeah, yeah.
So it's one of those things. I did that.
What? Language was the.
Same Cantonese, OH. Wow yeah, so like like the tab

(06:26):
on my shirt as this is the language.
So let me just let me see if this is traditional or
simplified Chinese. Let me see over here.
I don't see any Chinese character just yet.
So maybe you think I don't thinkthis is.
Probably Cambodia. No, this is not.
That's why. That's why.
Yeah. Which is the new China?
I don't know. It will be eventually, yeah,
with them taking over everywhereright from.
Five stars you go down to one star, There you go.

(06:47):
Exactly, exactly. They're covering all the bases.
The flag exactly, Yeah. Same color, yeah.
So same color technically, I just thought the same number of
stars. Yeah.
Now, so I get betuating in Chinais probably going to collect
them all. We're going to have a one star
flag. The five star flag got to the
234 star flag as well. Wow.
Yeah, Egypt. You guys have three stars on the
flag? Or is that Iraq?
No, that's Iraq or Syria one. Of them OK, because you have the

(07:08):
same flags but. You just have the red, white and
black and different symbols in the mail.
Yeah. I don't even know if that's on
purpose or just lack of creativity.
It's just to confuse everybody. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Just confuse the Americans. What are we bombing?
Yeah, if you read, if you read what's on the Iraqi flag, can
you guess what's the Arabic word?
On the Iraqi flag. Yeah.
Hummus. It's actually in a way, so it's

(07:31):
almost like so predictable. It actually says Allahu Akbar on
it. No way.
Really. Yeah.
Oh, wow. Wow.
The are right. They they know, but.
Actually Allah Akbar just means God is great.
It's not a bad, it's just. Like they didn't specify God
specifically what they said Allah, but yeah yeah, God in.
General General God is great, and who can disagree with that?

(07:51):
That's true. The people who are adults, who.
Know that man God. We go in there.
I feel like you need to apologize George Bush and Tony
Blair now, yeah. Wait a second.
We don't agree with those. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're talking about if you havea God, any God is.
You know what I mean? Like it doesn't mean it's
greater. No, but this is not what
crusades are all about. My God's better than your God.

(08:12):
So you can't say any God is great because they're like no,
no, your God's not the. Same God that's.
What I'm saying, but that's the argument.
People are disagreeing though. They're like, well, technically
your version of the God is not my God.
And so like, that's the whole fight, right?
Where we're like, you're oh. It's like new Kanye and old
Kanye. Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, it's one of those
where like, yeah, I liked him when he was like ye or whatever
he's called it. Like it's like, you know, a Puff
Daddy versus like that P Diddy. You know, my Puff Daddy is good.

(08:34):
Your P Diddy sucks kind of a thing.
But that's just like a branding with the Kanya actually changed
the Puff Daddy. I feel like he.
Just not testing on people. Slid on baby oil.
Exactly that's that's the whole thing, but.
You know, in that analogy, we'reacknowledging that Puff Daddy
and PDD is the same person. You tell?
Yeah, yeah, because I met you incourt, Puff Daddy.

(08:55):
Like, I didn't do that shit, right?
He did. He's like, I think I did that
shit. Yeah.
And he's like, I would change myname back to Puff Daddy.
Got out of jail. Legal loophole.
Right over there. His name is Sean Combs.
Yeah, I know, right? Isn't like the thing that you?
Exactly. Yeah.
I mean, the good thing is actually he's still active in
his name. He's combing.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
He's grooming. He's grooming, yeah.
Exactly. He's grooming with the baby oil.
I mean he, but. Actually, our buddy Tim Lam had

(09:17):
this idea that, like now. Because he's basically getting
exonerated from most of the serious crimes.
Yeah. Which means the whole trial was
just King shaming the guy. If he had done nothing illegal.
Yeah, then he shouldn't be. You know what I mean?
Now we're just like. Now we should feel.
Bad. That was really just for views.
Yeah, I think some people got some ideas from that, like, oh,
how much, baby? Oil.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

(09:37):
Yeah. Yeah, also, I don't know if I
mentioned this on here before. I genuinely still to this day
have no idea what racketeering means and I don't know what why.
Why is that a crime? Because I don't understand the
concept of racketeering. I did look it up and then it was
so vague and so is like. What was the definition you saw?
Well, it was something like, oh,encouraging somebody to do a

(09:57):
crime or facilitating, but it was so open.
It's like, what is racketeering?Yeah, yeah, Novak Djokovic.
I think he's the best racketeer.Yeah, I think he just lost
yesterday, so not the best anymore.
He's still the best. He has the boss Grand grand
slams. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what is racketeering? Do we know what's racketeering?
Isn't it like basically gaslightlike encouraging people like you

(10:18):
said, but it's time to do things.
But I think it's limited to lookthis up.
Yeah, this is let's do the research that we should have
done before the you know, but I believe racketeering is when you
are. Just typing in.
Yeah, I'm like. Let it let let do that.
OK, Yeah, dude, check that you. Just wrote in rank a nation.
Yeah, and like Google, like we know what you're talking about.
We're hearing every word you're saying.

(10:38):
Yeah, the ACT are running of running or participating in an
illegal business or scheme, typically involving a pattern of
criminal activity or financial gain.
So basically, Moe, that's everything you do.
Everything. Everything Moe does.
He's been racketeer from the morning.
Yes, I'm a racketeer. Here.
I thought you were like Ramadanning.
Turns out you're racketeering. Racketeering.
Every month for a year. Every month.

(11:01):
Like you're you're skipping breakfast not to lose the pounds
but like to rob someone else or something.
To racketeer, yeah. To Racketeer to act of yeah.
Is it saying I am I am a Racketeer runner?
You're a racketeer. Racketeer.
I mean, what's the best time of the day to do some racketeer?
It's usually when you wake up inthe morning.
Oh, ready for you already have ahard you have never done you're.

(11:23):
Going to cause a racket? It's time to launch some of that
racket. Yeah.
No, no, no. But I think, I think what will
happen very soon is that people are going to still tune out from
this episode. Yes.
And like this, fade out as slowly and be like racketeering.
Yeah, okay, so we actually have a very interesting guest and
we're fucking around a lot. Yeah, Okay, Victor, thanks for
joining man. Thank you very much for having

(11:44):
me. Okay, so very quickly what I
got, I came to know you through a common, like through a friend
of mine who is a fan of stand upand stuff and he has been a fan
of yours for a while. That's very kind.
And he said that, oh, you got this guy seems to be going
everywhere. That was his pitch to me.
OK, He's like, if you message him, he'll probably come.

(12:05):
And sure enough, he did like a seagull.
Just like, oh you want a bird, get a chip and then.
They will come and I said hey man.
And Victor's like, OK, that's true of two sentence.
That is, that is that has to be the best pitch.
Like, you know, you're like, hey, Hong Kong, wanna.
Yeah, yeah. Victor's like, yes.

(12:25):
OK, so let's start with the guy.Yeah, there's not a lot of
comedians like you. I want to say indoor.
Why are you so hell bent on going everywhere?
I don't have a place to go back to.
I don't have a home. Are you homeless?
Have you? Technically, yeah.
Yeah, but homeless with money, not homeless without money.
I don't have money. You don't have money.
I'm. I'm wearing the same clothes

(12:46):
everywhere I go. Yeah.
But that feels like, just like abrand, like a, you know.
Oh no, it's like I don't even have space for more shirts.
So let's let's get a visual image right?
So you basically live off of a suitcase.
Yeah, I have a suitcase and a backpack and that's how I
travel. Right.
So let's let's say the the top three things that are the
suitcase. When you open up, what are the
top three things on the surface that you mismatched?

(13:07):
Socks. Yeah, the socks are by default
mismatched and all of that, please.
And dirty. Yes, dirty underwear, socks and
shirts. So just like any other guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any other guy like OK what about
I'm? Like how you're humanizing me.
It's like, oh, you have shirts? And yeah, OK, you know, I see.
I could do that too. Yeah.
OK, So you you open your suitcase and the top three
things would be like the mismatched socks.

(13:29):
Yes. You got your dirty underwear
from the previous trip. Yes.
And then an empty tube of toothpaste.
Yeah, that's what it's all aboutyou.
Know the one that you try to. Yeah, you try to squeeze it all
out, curl as much as you can andlike one more time.
Just. Then you put like at the end,
you put the toothbrush inside and you.
Just peel it out, yeah? A little bit of a do we?
Do we all scissor the toothpasteat some?

(13:50):
Point from the back and you squish it out from the back.
Yeah. Or like actually cut it just
across and just get like that. This is the last one, right?
I was thinking of another type of scissors which was.
Well, you get 2 toothpastes and like, rub them together, but
like, squirt, squirt, squirt, yeah.
That you're spending too much time by yourself if you are
making toothpaste, yes. Scissoring.

(14:11):
Yeah, kind of say scissor and with a straight face, yeah.
Exactly. All right, so.
So basically, yes. In other words, you could just
walk around the whole of Hong Kong with the suitcase.
There was actually some people in Hong Kong that are notorious
for that. If you ever get a chance, if you
go down the listation, I wouldn't walk around.
You would not walk around. Yeah.
Not in this. Season no, he actually almost
like I feel like inside he kind of hates me a bit because he was

(14:32):
just saying that like we're crossing the street I relax
sweating and I'm just laughing because I.
Mean, I would have thought for aguy and.
He was like, I'm glad it's funnyto you because obviously he's
suffering. Let me just say man, for a
person who's been travelling theworld, clearly you have not seen
enough. Yeah, but I'm still a human
being. Yeah, they travelled all over
the world. I can still have emotions and.

(14:52):
Yeah, emotions is fine, but the the the torture because like,
OK, So what happened is this right?
I was busy this morning and Mohammed and Victor got to the
building. Yeah, they were on the floor
outside the door, but I was in the other floor because I owned
two places above all. We all know that story, right?
And then I was coming up and I get, I see you and I just see
the pure, the frustration of like, how is this allowed?

(15:12):
Yeah, right. And you get to my house and
you're like, how are you both not dying here?
Yeah. And, and in my head, I'm just
like, this is this is the, you know, like how every comedian
that comes to, let's say a new country, new city, and they have
that joke where we're like, Yep,Yep, Yep.
What's the culture? Shall we get it?
The humidity here is everyone's like, well, how is like, Yep,
Yep, Yep. Get used to it.
So I love seeing you struggle inthe beginning when you got in

(15:33):
the house until the air conditioner was turned on.
Yeah. I'm really happy that my pain is
a. Pleasure.
You get a Hong Kong trait. Yeah, it is very Hong Kong
trait. Sounds like racketeering to me.
Hey, let me just say it's not illegal to put it that way.
Highly legal. I took her for dim sum, had dim
sum lunch and the lady at multiple points, To be honest,
it was the few points that happened when she was angry.

(15:54):
It was always me. So it wasn't even him even
though I am the local. Yeah, but he also got to see
like the Hong Kong service level.
Just like, what do you want? Just eat the damn food.
So we had. I like it just like it's like
not. I don't like the pleasantries.
I don't like when the a waiter comes in and wants to talk to
you. I'm like.
Yeah, yeah, no, that's very hot shit about me.

(16:14):
Very Hong Kong did. You have your own life, yeah.
Exactly what would you care? She was thinking we had like a
mango mochi things and there were three of them and we had
one each. Or she brought outside food in.
No, no, no it. Was like that coconut thingy.
Yeah, whatever. So she was taking her food away.
We stood up on a road to go pay and I decided I'm going to take
the last one too. Yeah, but she was holding a few

(16:34):
plates, so I did take the last one.
Yeah, but because it's like, has, like, dislocated coconut.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's felt like 2 bits of it fell
on the floor. I didn't see it.
He caught it. Yeah.
He's just so mad. Yeah, I'm like I'm skidding my
dessert. Yeah, You know, they call it dim
sum. It's just a restaurant, right?
Like, I feel like sometimes you go to places and they have the

(16:54):
same food, but they call it different.
So you go like, Oh my God, this is Tapas that says.
Bullshit. Yeah, there are some.
Things. Some things are only.
Dim. Yeah, they're only right.
Yeah, unique to Hong Kong, right.
So Cumai, for example, we didn'thave it because I don't eat pork
and you don't really eat seafood.
Yeah, but Cumai is very Hong Kong.
It's pork and seafood. Yeah, it's like a themed

(17:16):
dumpling. I mean you can.
See this one right? Here, yeah.
You're wearing. Yeah.
Yellow color thing with the whole meat and stuff inside it.
Yeah, much more believe it's local food.
Not this size. No lady living inside.
Not yet. Well it depends where.
If you're racketeering, there isa lady inside.
Where? Is this from?
You Nicola. Oh, dude, Yeah, this is this is
my my My Australia tour and alsothe Jim Yang show.

(17:37):
I bought this. You ordered this?
Yeah, maybe this one. No, I see that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was doing a Jack.
Adorable. Yeah, it is really cute.
I didn't see it until we startedtalking about it, but that's
really. Cute.
I'm glad you wouldn't look into my tits.
No, I was not. That's good.
His tits because they're bigger.My God, I've eaten so much.
Like yesterday I arrived here inHong Kong from Kuala Lumpur.
I ate so much in Kuala Lumpur. I was not hungry yesterday.

(17:58):
I could. I can understand.
I wouldn't blame you, man. Kuala Lumpur has some great
food. Fantastic, because it was from
all over. It's like good Indian food,
Vietnamese food, Thai food, Chinese food, absolutely.
And Malaysian that I don't, I'venot had the chance to try that
because it's the same. Yeah.
I mean it's like noodles and wetdough with meat inside.
Yeah, yes, yeah. So.

(18:18):
Going back to you being a bit homeless, yes.
So when did you decide to just like obviously do comedy is one
thing, but when you decide to not have a base?
Five years ago during the pandemic.
Why? Oh yeah.
Because of the pandemic. Right.
So you just wanted to go where the work?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was stuck in London
and then I, I was like, I'm not living my life, you know, going
to sleep at 5:00 in the afternoon, trying to wait for

(18:39):
the day to pass, which was the experience of during lockdown.
And then I saw that open mic started opening up in Berlin and
I just left everything. And I've been on the road since
then. Wow.
So like for the last what, five,Yeah, five years.
So, OK, let me ask you this. So you picked up and left.
You were based in London before.OK, so you picked up.
Did you tell you a landlord or do you own the place or whatever

(19:00):
that I'm out or did you like finish your term?
Tell them I'm going to pay you until this day I'm gonna leave.
Did you the whole? Process.
Such a nerdy question. I've never been asked these
questions. Like what about the landlord?
I have two properties here I need to know.
I need to because it should I invest in London?
How the people over there? Yeah, No, I'm very curious.
Like what I like to know is thatwhat was going through your head
when you're like I I need to go to Berlin And were you were you

(19:20):
the type of person like I'm going to pick up and go
suitcase, let's go. Or were you the type like, let
me hold on a second. I can inform this person, get my
deposit back. But yeah, but I mean, like, so
did what I'm saying is that whatwas the moment of the aha moment
of like, all right, I'm doing this, let's do this.
One day it was 5 in the afternoon and I was getting
ready to sleep for the day. Day to end.
And you and oh, I got and were you thinking like, I want to do

(19:42):
the same thing, but not at 5:00 PM, But if I change my time
zone, I'm technically, you know,in the right time zone asleep
now is that? From London to Berlin, it's not
the huge difference in time zone, it's just one hour
difference and one hour. Is that that's post Brexit,
right? Yeah.
But as an EU citizen, you're from Romania, Yeah.
So are you allowed even the UK to just work like no problem or
do you need like a apply for a visa?

(20:04):
You apply for like a permit to enter the country that works for
like 2 years now. I think they just brought in
something new in April. But yeah, it's like Europe, man.
Just Europe. Yeah, Yeah.
Now, since the UK has left the European Union, they check your
passport, but you travel to Europe, you cross borders,
there's nobody there right to even ask you where you're from

(20:24):
or like write your papers or whatever.
Yeah, yeah. OK.
Well, you go. From Germany to Austria, there's
nobody at the border. Yeah, that I know.
Yeah, there. Is an actual border, but it's
like just. Yeah, it's like it's dusty.
It's just. Yeah.
So it's the same as like basically you walk from the
kitchen, the bedroom, like it's a border, but no one's really
there giving me. Shit.
But it is genuinely cool as a stand up because you get like,

(20:44):
you know, for us here to access another market, you have to fly
to Singapore, You fly to Quantico, Yeah.
But isn't, isn't it less satisfying when you just
crossover? You're like, well, did I really
go to another place? Because it doesn't feel like it
doesn't have the, you know, the procedures.
You get it. You like pain, don't you?
Just met you but now I'm getting.
You're like this guy. He, he has to like turn off the

(21:05):
air conditioner, sweat a bit andbe like, I'm alive.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's.
Not necessary because life is already tough.
You don't need. Not his life, he's a spoiled
brat. That's why he.
Has to make it. He has to make it harder for
himself because he's just so easy.
Yeah, exactly. He has to wake up every day.
I'm like, here's my flat. I.
Think there's so many other things that could go wrong.

(21:26):
Or you could have actual What does it matter if someone
crosses a border? Yeah, but I mean, it's kind of
like, you know, if someone wrapsa gift for you, doesn't it feel
more just more nice when they wrap it up right now here,
you're going to open it anyway. Here's the gift.
So the border is the European Union.
It's a yeah. There you go.
But I'm saying like, but the thefeeling of like I'm now in new
territory, you know, like you get it.
Like you want to have the littleacknowledgement.

(21:47):
People speak a different language.
You know what? I.
Mean, yeah, but maybe people speak different language.
I mean, I don't understand my girlfriend half the time, but
you know, we're still in the same city.
She's Hong Kong Chinese, but I speak the language she speaks
and she talks and I don't understand it.
So I'm not really crossing borders because.
She's a woman or. Let you know because of the
world of diversity equity, inclusion I kind of I kind of
answer that question I don't seethat kind of did I I don't see I

(22:09):
don't see women and men you knowI don't see the difference
they're all the same to me you know the.
Rules. It is according to the rules of
not getting cancelled. Yeah, he's going to abstain from
on see. Exactly.
I don't know some of the point of what do you mean if she's a
woman I don't get it like. But Europe is fantastic, man, to
be able to just take a train from from one city to the next,
you know what I mean? Don't have?
To check I do. I do have to check the luggage.
Yeah. You don't have to go outside the

(22:31):
town to an airport that's an hour away.
Yeah. You need to take a bus and then
change to another bus and then. You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think maybe for me, I like, I
like that, that that line where it's kind of saying, OK, now I'm
doing this, you know, because when you go over there, you
know, oh, the currency's different now.
I got to pay it this way. But we do that way, some of
that. But I want to have that like a
grand ceremony, like I will now leave this place, chop my car,

(22:54):
my my passport, please. You know one of those.
Say chop my cock just like you're like, how?
What do you think of the European Union?
The gays are taking over. Yeah, everybody's strands,
everybody's just castrating eachother.
But look, look how we annoying the the reality of travelling is
you have sockets that are different from the country next
to you. It's like, stupid.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
So what's a little bit more of like Visa gonna do to you?

(23:17):
Why just the annoyance? Yes, it's annoying, but then
when you created the society to create an environment for all of
to live our lives, this is in the way.
Yeah, different sockets, different currency, paperwork,
visas, permits, all of these bullshit.
It's funny, a lot of Times Now we have a guest, it always
almost feels like it's the guestis on one side and Rebecca is on

(23:40):
the other side. And I'm starting to feel that
it's a back problem after I'm like you're always because now
you're. Smiling, it's like why do you
not want to fill up forms but. Unless you acknowledge your
life. Do I have illegal drugs?
Do I have this much currency on me like I?
Mean also like you guys are quite different because you're a

(24:01):
stickler to the rule. Like you like, like things to be
like, you know, like a bit of a struggle and he is like a hippie
basic Yeah. So that makes it like.
I was just talking outside aboutlike not believing in borders
and stuff Yeah. And you're like, hey, you should
go to the airport and wait for. Two, I mean like, I have a main
door in my house for a reason, you know, like to be like.
Main door. Yeah, I have a.
Door at my my entrance to my house.

(24:22):
Everybody has a main what? Yeah, that's my point is like
because I would like to be able to open it at my point of like,
you know what, you're welcome now.
But then at some point I'm like,yeah, you're not anymore.
So when I have those kind of borders, I'm.
Going to people's houses. I don't want to take the Czech
Republic and open people's houses and sleep in that.
Yeah, but I mean, bedrooms, I mean, some people consider their
own city and country their own houses, you know what I mean?
Like it's. Yeah, well, they call it home.

(24:42):
You know, Hong Kong. Yeah.
But I love this conversation. Keep going guys, This is why
water starts. This is like what?
Idea. Yeah, but this is my land.
It's not your land. The government owns it.
What I mean? Yeah, yeah.
Pen OK. Yeah, but the government, OK,
let me just take that side for asecond.
But the government is the peoplelike, look like me.
The government's not the people,it's just a bunch of people who
has things have gotten to their heads and they forgot that

(25:05):
they're our employees. Yeah.
That's very true. I agree with that one.
Yes. Oh, wow.
OK. Let's go against Muhammad now.
No, but what I'm saying is that,see the way I still get it this
way when you cross borders. Yeah.
And they make it a bit more difficult.
The good thing is that it doesn't let it become casual.
So people need to have a real will and want to do it.
Otherwise you just have people like roaming around like.

(25:26):
So it's a good thing, yeah. You want crowded spaces all the
time. And it's not because, like,
people are into different thingsby nature.
Yeah, Some people, for example, if we have that, like no borders
or whatever, some people will want to live by the mountains
because they like the mountains.Yeah.
And some other people are going to.
Your argument is that everybody's going to want to be
in the city, but that's not true.
Yeah, but The thing is that whoever goes to the mountains,

(25:47):
they would need a certain level of motivation to want to go
through all that paperwork to doit.
So you don't end up having people who go to the mountains
for like, I'll just go because I'm bored.
Can still move within the same country by those terms, it's
just you don't want people from another country having the
ability. Because like the people who are
in that country who stay with that area, they're probably used
to the culture. So therefore you don't have all
these like tourists coming like doing their own culture in your
country. Who hurt you, man?

(26:09):
Who? What?
I feel like you have some neighbors that you have some.
I definitely have issues somebody.
Foreigners moved into this apartment.
Absolutely, man. You know.
Like borders, we need rules. Who moved in here?
Who? Who?
No. It's like all this stuff, man.
Like I, if you, if you notice, first of all, in my in my
building, I'm 1 flat per floor. Yeah, which is not very common

(26:30):
in Hong Kong, but that itself was a selling point.
I'm like, you tell me when I leave my door, when I leave my
entrance. I don't, I don't see a neighbor.
Yeah, dude, that is fantastic. That border I can live with.
You have two apartments in this building?
Yeah. You chose to record this in the
smallest room. That's right.
Hence why I wanted to make it difficult for everyone.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah. But that's the idea.
Oh, yeah. So.
OK, So you decide I'm going to go to Berlin, try open mics,

(26:52):
give it a shot. And because you were like.
No, I've been to Berlin before. It's like I was going to Berlin
because shows were happening. Possible.
Yeah, yeah. Something after COVID and
everything or during the pandemic, you're like, you know
what, I need to do something rather than sitting home and
wait until 5:00 PM, I'm going tosleep.
I'm going to go to the next place that has something going
on, which is Berlin and at the time it's.
Not I need to do something I want to.
Do something. Look at you.
I love it. Yeah, the the motivation.

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Anyone needs to do this, but I want to do it.
Yeah, that's very true. So you woke up.
You're like, I'm in the Berlin. Let's get the ball rolling.
Let's make this happen. So when you were going to
Berlin, was that a reason I did like, oh, what if I can keep
this? When you went there, you're
like, ah, this is what I like doing rather than just being
home. I've been doing comedy for like
14. Years.
My point what was the trigger point of like, you know what,
I'm going to let go of having this home concept and just

(27:35):
travel, no. No, I was already on the road.
Yeah. So I was already on the road
already. Yeah, so.
I was already on the road, I wason tour.
I was in Lubiana, the first day of national emergency where
people were recommended by the government to stay inside.
Lubiana is the capital of Slovenia, right?
And I remember I was staying in this like shitty hotel and the

(27:59):
show was in the evening and I inthe morning, I go downstairs to
go to get coffee and everybody'sfreaking out because everybody
at the deception, they were like, there's nobody out.
Like we don't know what's happening, right?
And then I was like. Because you were headlining, so
they decided that. Everybody had to leave the
country. Yeah.
Yeah. They wanted to reunify.
It was love. Yeah.
And everybody left. In the perfect opportunity so we

(28:20):
don't have to. Belgrade is waiting for us.
So yeah. And then I had to cancel
everything and stop everything and like, I was doing shows
almost every day. Yeah.
And the pandemics started and then I was locked in for like 3
months and I was like, however we're wasting our lives.
Yeah, I'm wasting my life in London.
No, no. No, in London, I had to move to.

(28:42):
I went to back to London. Yeah, Yeah, OK.
Did you ever have a day job? You were like a civilian before.
Yeah, yeah. What did you do?
Well, for a while I used to makecoffees and then I realized that
every person, every comedian, every person that I basically
knew in London was a comedian. And everybody needed photos and
posters and Flyers and design stuff.
Because the the comedy graphics are the worst graphics that you

(29:05):
can ever see in any industry, right?
So I started doing that and thenslowly, slowly doing more shows
and bigger shows and organizing shows and starting to tour and,
you know, OK, like everybody. Yeah, yeah.
OK. So you've never had like a
massive change of career from like, you know, lawyer or I've
always or whatever. Yeah, I've always wanted to do
this, this. Is a childhood dream for me.
Yeah, but you, so you grew up inRomania and you say that you're

(29:28):
1, like only child. Yeah.
And your mom is around where? What was your dad's just turning
to a therapy session. What was your dad's role in?
You were growing up and you weretaking up comedy.
He was not there. He was never there.
No, that was the role. Yeah, I mean that, yeah, that
was the role, yeah. Did you meet him at all or No?
Yeah, okay. Or he's just not around?

(29:50):
No, yeah, okay, fair enough. And where did you grow up?
In Romania. I grew up with in a small
village and then I moved to a town to go to school and yeah,
nothing exciting, nothing. No, my fascination by this is
that, like, you're someone and we've had, I don't know if
you're no comedian. Matt Davis.
Yeah, Yeah. So Matt is a very close friend
of mine, and he was here maybe ayear ago or so.

(30:11):
And he also goes to like, you know, kind of obscure places and
stuff. But you, I think, take it to the
next level because some of the stuff that you plays into
Uzbekistan, for example, I'm like, I don't even know.
I did the first solo show in English.
Exactly. I don't think I'm generally
pretty educated. I don't know if I can tell where
Uzbekistan is. I think the people are Central

(30:32):
Asia. I know they are, but it's such a
small country, you know? Pilau yes, they have a version
there. It's very good.
Yes, that's that I would enjoy. Yeah, they have like.
Big things that they make, like a ton.
Chunks of lamb and rice. Meat and rice and you don't even
know what's in it, but it's delicious and you have to sleep
for three days after that. It's OK Talk to us about doing

(30:54):
comedy in Uzbekistan. Oh.
It's fantastic. The power cut out 15 minutes
into the show for like an hour. It's a hugely corrupt country.
The people from the government came to the show, which is very
fun to talk to. Yeah.
Because they also know that it's, you know, that's how they
could afford the tickets. Yeah.
Corruption. Yeah, Right.

(31:14):
Lovely people, very interesting.Everywhere I go, man, the people
are very similar, right? Like the differences are
cultural and the stories that people tell themselves.
But people are people are people.
Like talking to you guys here, it's like talking to any other
comedian. Yeah.
I mean, yeah, with you talking to me, it's the.
Same. Yeah, I'm.
Just another guy, we're all justanother person.
But then you're doing comedy in a way that like Vivek, you might

(31:35):
not know that like we talked about, you're doing comedy in a
way that is not really similar to most comedians I know.
I would say because you're not just self producing, you're also
doing the whole thing from startto end on your on your own,
which means doing the tickets, contacting the venues in
countries that you have never been to before sometimes and
you're trying to get to the audience directly as well.

(31:56):
So traditionally for people who don't know, like you go through
promoters, especially in a different country, promoters go
through ticketing agencies, you go sometimes to a third party to
do your advertising and stuff like this.
You decided to do all of that onyour own.
Yeah. Why and how does that work when
you are that busy? Well, now I'm starting to to

(32:16):
build a team around me who's helping me out.
For example, I have I'm working and collaborating with the tour
manager, the lovely Holly Blay. And she's the first tour manager
in Europe ever. And basically between her and I,
we, I think we organize about 300 shows a year.
So wait, hold on. So, Mohammed, you contact Victor

(32:37):
directly? Yeah, this is an exception here
because it's, it's very, I'm very, I was very nervous about
coming here. Two of the political stuff.
Yeah, things that I have online.So here I'm working with you
guys, but outside I'm organizingmy own thing.
I contact the venue, I put on the show and then I perform it.
And yeah, you know. So percentage wise, how many of

(32:58):
them as people contact you say we want to put you do a show
with you? I don't do requests.
I don't do I? Don't promote a request.
Yeah, really. So it's you contacting.
Yeah. So Muhammad, what you did in
your e-mail, man, you definitelyuse the right words and said
hey. I sent him a Dick pic that he
thought was very lovely and a nice gesture.
Yeah, you know what? He knows how to get his

(33:19):
audience. Yeah, yeah.
Now to get attention in DMS. Not my first rodeo, but.
Ironically, what will happen nowis that people who always wanted
to book you and ignore them, they are sending you Dick.
Yeah. Please go Victor at Victor.
You'll see. You'll see his let's say.
Yeah. Book him through Dick pics.
You just. You're welcome.
Yeah. Thank you.
Very much, yeah. I'll forward them to you, I

(33:40):
think. I think it's validity.
The Dick pic must include the face, otherwise it could be any
Dick pic from the Internet. It can't be.
It's a weird angle to have the face in it.
Yeah, sometimes I just want to enjoy the the, the penis.
Yeah, not see the face. How about this?
How about this, if if a promoterwere to send you a Dick pic, but
they put a sock on the Dick and they what they do is they put
one color sock on the Dick, one color on the balls.

(34:01):
Would that get your attention? We're like, I got to talk to
this guy. Yeah.
Yeah, appreciate the effort. Yeah, clearly that is homework.
Yeah, you. Could appreciate that.
Sometimes I, I don't understand like the first word you're
saying and then I'm like, maybe I'll catch up by the end of the
sentence and I'm like, I'm so confused.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Disagree with what I say, that I

(34:21):
know that this strategy, whatever he says.
Yeah. Because I'm always curious about
people's psyche of, like, havingrules.
So as much as I'm a stickler forrules and everything, I'm a firm
believer that everybody claims to have a rule until the time
comes with like, yeah, I kind ofenforce that rule.
So yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's why I'm always curious.
Like, OK, so you say no, I don'ttake requests.
I'm like, there must be a way everyone has.
Very rare, but I don't do private shows, I don't do

(34:43):
corporate shows, I just do my own shows.
So you tell me, OK, let's say you travel and you agree with
the organizer. We're going to do the show in
this venue, right? And let's just say the Sultan of
that city or whatever was that Iwouldn't watch the show as well.
But I don't want to be amongst the people.
I want you to do a separate extra show.
No, but what if he says that it's the same venue, same number
of people. And I, in other words, I'm
buying tickets. Just do another show.

(35:04):
I'll buy all the. Tickets.
I don't care, man. I don't.
I don't care about this, this type of stuff.
Yeah, yeah. What I care about is talking to
the people that want to hear what I have to say and telling
them jokes and talking to them and, you know, visiting places
and eating foods and talking to people.
I don't care about this type of oh, what about if someone it's
like. Because I'm curious, like

(35:25):
there's always that great area of like, OK, let's say you do a
show, let's just say Hong Kong, OK, Yeah.
And you do the show and you sellout 100 something tickets sold
out. Let's say the whole venue is
gone. All right, And then you're like,
oh, let's add another show, right?
You add another show. Turns out that it was let's say
someone super rich that wanted to have their private show.
You add your show, they buy all the tickets.

(35:46):
In other words, making it a private show as well, right?
Would you still be OK with like you find out?
Oh damn this person just made ita private show.
I don't know man. You don't know I love it.
Man, it's a public. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know. It's like, it depends.
I feel like the thing that I really like about what I do is
the audience, The people that come to my shows.
I talk to them online. I talk to them at the show I

(36:07):
have. That's why I do this.
It's like the human. Connection thing, yeah, it's
not, it's not a business #1 it'smore of a human connection then
then business involved as well. You're actually.
Yeah, this is my life, Yeah. So if I don't.
Enjoy it. There's no point, Yeah.
Right, so go looking at. Your do a show one day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Looking at your website and at

(36:29):
your Instagram, rather, Yeah, Victor dot Patras Khan at
Instagram. No dot Victor Patras Khan.
And then when you look at the links there, you have a really
cute thing called the request a show in your village.
Yeah. So what?
Does that mean so people, like normal people can tell me like,
hey, I live in this place when you come close or might consider

(36:50):
doing a show there because there's a few of us that would
like to see your show? Right.
So how do you work that out likefeasibility wise?
Let's say I am someone messaged you from Alexandria, Egypt.
I want to go to Alexandria, so even if there are people that
want are requesting to show, I still want to go to Alexander.
But it doesn't make sense like, you know, just I'm, I'm putting

(37:12):
it like I'm putting myself in your place.
It doesn't make sense to for some guy in the middle of Ghana
to be like, hey, I like you. You should come and then.
You just go no, no, no. I know you want to go
everywhere. What I'm saying is that like,
how do you even guarantee there is an audience?
I don't care about the guarantee.
So not the guarantee of the money, but do you even guarantee
that someone will show up? Yeah, just all I need is 2
people. So you actually genuinely don't

(37:34):
care how if you're setting up, it's fantastic.
Like I'm not complaining, but this is not a thing that I
consider like. You don't use the.
First time? No, really.
Yeah. So when the first time I've ever
really put in front of this, like, what if this part.
I don't know. I just do shows.
I go to places that I want to visit and sometimes I go to
places that people request if I see like there's like 100

(37:58):
people. In the process of the request.
I'm just a guy. Doing shows there's no process,
there's no logic, there's no just.
Happens. Yeah, it just.
Shows me that happens if we go to Victor Patrascaan.
So PATRASCAN. Yeah, Go check out.
You'll see the pin post where you have all your dates.
Yeah. First of all, I appreciate how

(38:18):
you don't seem happy on the poster.
Yeah, you seem very like very much going now, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's really good.
Like you're taking the job. Like a happy type of show.
No, it's not one of those people.
Hey, go come to you. You're like, I'm here to do a
show. It's you know, I'm not gonna
smile because it's supposed to be a comedy poster.
Now the best thing is that I like how you respect everyone
with the two letter. For example, Hong Kong CN, I'm

(38:42):
like OK, I'm gonna China, we getthat like the next one on 30th
August. You're going to Herac Leon.
Heraclion in Greece in Yeah. So good.
Like I'll be like Heraclion. I'm like, I have no idea what
that is like. I'm looking at PR.
Not yet. Who lived there?
You. Know, yeah, but I mean like like
The thing is. For you to look up the town
that. You're in?
Yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean.
So OK, oh, oh, look at the guy that wants to make everyone
travel easier, but fuck you, youbetter figure out where this

(39:04):
place is yourself. You know what?
This. Is the thing they can request a
show? They can go on my website and
look for the towns and country. And I mean, like, that's the
thing. Like maybe maybe I'm such a
super fan. I want to travel and follow you
at all your shows and come and check out the show and see if
there's a difference. Do that because I want to,
because it's so easy to travel comedy.
It's so easy to travel around Europe.
Yeah. Why would you stop me from
travelling? I mean visas I understand, but

(39:25):
you saying? Post it's like.
Yeah. Yeah, actually.
Look, look, this is also quite funny because all the countries
in Norway is NO. So it just looks like you're not
going to Norway. Yeah, no.
So you're just like, no, no. I.
Don't know if anyone made that joke before it's.
Described now it's one joke. Joke.
No, but it's yours now. I.

(39:45):
Think that's one post next to itas opposed to the map where
there's. All the places, right?
Yeah. You have the post to the map,
Yeah. I'm going to update this to add
like the new dates so see that's.
The thing like you've given everyone, like for example, you
show me a map of like where you can go from A to B to C to D You
literally tell me this is how you get there.
But when I asked you about the countries where I'm like, could
you tell me what FO sound like figure it out.

(40:06):
I'm like, whoa. That's Pharaoh Islands.
What fellow islands? Pharaoh Islands.
Pharaoh Islands. Hey, I thought Egypt is the land
of Pharaohs. What?
Is Pharaoh Island. No, I you thought I'm joking.
What is Pharaoh Island? Pharaoh Islands.
There is a bunch of islands likenorth of the UK that.
Oh, they're real place. Yeah.
I thought you're just digging around.
No, no, no. This is the thing.

(40:27):
I'm sorry. Everybody was Pharaoh Island.
Clear you have very big I love going to places where other
people have not been but that's not one the only consider it no
the only thing that I take into account I just go wherever I can
find a venue yeah and I get it yes because the biggest problem
is venue availability A lot of people don't want to work with

(40:47):
shows in English they don't wantto work with independent people
they don't want to work with domainians you know I have this
in certain countries OK they. Don't want to work with.
Domainians. Yeah, you actually, there's no
rules. There's no like, I don't think
like strategically into like. Oh, what?
I try to make it easy for peopleto find the shows.
If they want me to come to theirvillage, I try to make it easy
for them to hey. So I'm guessing you don't have

(41:11):
like, let's say a writer or anything to be like this, the
requirements I need a writer, you know, like one of those,
give me M&M's in my green room. I I would hate myself if I would
ever get to that point. Oh I guess, I guess I have to
cancel the two hookers I booked.Tonight for Yeah, you like, Oh,
that's the other comic that was actually.
The the Hong Kong hospitality I was are you?
No, your green room tonight has 2 Japanese hookers.

(41:33):
If you're I can cancel that. I don't.
Know why they're Japanese? You have to import them
cross-border. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's so easy, man. There's no visa required for
those. You're going to tell me now
because I I think I can get. 4 hour notice I.
Love simple things that like allI want when I get to a venue is
a glass of water, a coffee or anenergy drink.

(41:55):
No hookers. Just say it on record.
So yeah, I can keep this and this.
I'm like, yeah, the client. Did not.
I don't want anything. No, man, it's like this is the
thing. I feel like the nature of the
kind of the field that we're in is just so pretentious and
overblown and so many. I need have your own water,

(42:16):
please. None of that.
You know Fiji water. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think that, you know, I used to work for a big like a
big concert, like a promoter. And there are people who are
like this, yeah, like, you know,when their own on their own
standards. But sometimes when you are so
many people are involved, yeah, you will inevitably end up with
like so many layers and and likeyou're growing, your profile is

(42:39):
now growing anyway, right? What happens if you are you want
to do like it makes sense to do a small stadium, right?
You can't really go work with the same.
Kind of, but I don't want this is the thing it's.
I agree. Say no at some point if the
village, let's say. No, man, for me, this is this is
how I think about this, right? I want to tell jokes.
This is my this is my dream. This is all I want to do.

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I don't do anything else. I have to travel to do those
jokes. I also want to travel.
I want to see the local people, I want to eat the local foods.
I want to learn about the littleidiosyncrasies between different
cultures and different people. That's all I care about.
And what do I have to do in order to tell jokes?

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I have to organize the show by myself because there's nobody
there to organize the show. I want to organize the show by
myself because I want to have anopinion on how the show is run
and how the show runs and I can do exactly what I want.
My vision of what I want to offer people.
That's all I think about. And all of the decisions that I

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make are informed by this. I want to tell jokes.
I don't. Yeah, let me tell jokes that's
in the writer. Like give me give me a platform
that I'm able to tell jokes thatrequest maybe.
I can tell jokes with no microphone, no lights.
Yeah, if I have people and they're facing me, I can talk to
them and that's all I care. Well, that goes into actually
also like that, that kind of topics that interest you or

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which is, you know, a lot of thestuff based on your social media
seems to be either political, not necessarily negative or
positive, but you're, you're interested in politics, I would
say. And also, as you said, like
idiosynctly, like I see some like comments, like, you know,
fights and the comments and you're on some of your posts
about like the silliest things sometimes, which is funny
because I'm see like, you know, as a book, you are kind of like

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researching a bit and there seemto be a pattern usually.
I don't know what Turkish people's problem are with you.
But it's still the problem that they have with themselves.
I'm just a mirror, yeah. Right.
Yeah, yeah. But that is a thing that has
been happening. Can you just explain to us what?
Is just Turkish. It's nationalists.
Right. OK, I have an issue with
nationalists because this is notsomething that I planned.

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This is why I'm so just weirded out about the questions.
I'm like, I don't really plan things out right.
Right. Because I don't know.
This has never been done. Yeah, right.
So I'm probably out of comedy. Probably the I've done the most
self produced shows internationally in the most the
biggest number of countries. And I don't know if musicians or

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any other performance artists has ever done this number of
shows in this many places. So I never planned this.
This is never you can't envisionthat this could be a thing.
Yeah, just kind of started doing.
Things. There's no.
Structure, yeah, yeah. And then with the shows, the
subject matter, I realized that it's I can't do New York or LA

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or London comedy because I'm notfrom there and I'm not there.
Yeah. And the audience is different.
Like, I'm sure you, you've noticed this everywhere.
You, you travel, the audience isfrom all over the world.
Yeah. It's.
We are second language. I Yeah, I don't know about you.
Yeah. If you're a native speaker of
English, I'm a second language. Yeah.
Yeah. Right.
Yeah. So why am I trying to do the

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comedy that the natives do? Yeah, Yeah.
They're just particularly talking about the English
speaking like the English. English countries stand up
comedy in broken English. I think this is the name of the
show that I travel with, but I think this is what we do.
Yeah, Right. We are second language speakers.
We talk to second language speakers about things that men

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you can't go to London and talk about geopolitics.
Yeah, people like you. Can't go to New York and make
fun of foreigners because there's two foreigners in the
room and then it's just mean, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. That we do.
Everybody's from somewhere. Yeah, yeah, I am from somewhere
else. So the nature of the comedy, the
jokes, the subject matter is going to be different, the

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language is going to be every, but these are all organic things
that have been informed just by travelling, right?
And you have noticed this yourself, of course, right?
The more you travel, the more you're like, why am I talking
about the, the shop down the road from where I'm living?
Because people here, I'm in another country.
They don't know about. They don't know.
If you live in New York and you talk about, you know, Cat's

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Deli, everybody, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. So it's a different thing that
just a role just came out organically, you know what I
mean? And I don't know where this is
going. So which?
Is amazing. I mean, it's a good, it's a good
trajectory to have because the. Why would I?
Why would I just confine all of these things?
Like what about this? What if this would happen?

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I don't know if that's going to happen.
Yeah, yeah. You know, so just play it by
you. Just.
I'm sure you do this as. Well, yeah, I think everyone
travelling, every comedian, after a certain while you
realize that, yeah, you can't belike, this is the right way.
That's the wrong way, yeah. There is also like kind of
comedy gold that comes out of moments like this because you're
going everywhere and you also don't know who you're going to
meet in the audience. Absolutely.
One of the videos of yours that we use for to promote your show

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is an interaction. You do crowd work as well to
show sometimes. I have to.
This is the thing that I would like to mention.
I think there's a wave of crowd work comedians now, yes, in
America, which I find very weirdbecause they do crowd work
instead of a set. Yeah, right.
Like they have 15 minutes and they're doing crowd work.
I'm like. Do your.
Set, yeah, 15 minutes. But we, when we organize our own

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shows, we have two hours. Yeah.
There's no MC, there's nobody else to talk to the crowd.
So you end up talking to the crowd, right?
You are warming up for yourself.Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, this is the thing. It's a, it's, it's crowd work,
which is like, it's a genre, it's a format, but it's for
totally different reasons that the British, the Americans, the

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Australians do. And that's also the cool thing
is that I don't know if you'd agree, is that you can post this
stuff without burning the material, right?
Absolutely, Yeah. Yeah.
So anyway, the video that I was referring to, which you know
already is a video recently thatwe posted got kind of viral.
Sometimes as promoters, we put money behind the video to boost
it. That's normal.

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This one actually went viral organically, and there was an
interaction. You're in Tokyo, you're
performing in Tokyo, and you aredoing crowd work.
And someone in the audience who is apparently from Norway, you
ask them what they do for a living.
And he goes, I fight retards. And then I'll just, I'll let you
take over from there. Yes.

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So you think he was trying to befunny or was that?
Yeah, of course. Yeah, right.
But that seems like it's his actual job.
Yeah, I think he's a, he's a caretaker in the like the mental
health. Right, but he's saying he
wrestles them. Yeah, because I think he's like
probably in security work something.
The thing with the with the crowd work is people volunteer,
right? I don't point people out.
So yeah, yeah, people can sit infront of me.

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I don't talk to them if they were don't want to be spoken to.
Because I also feel like part ofthe crowd work is this this
bully attitude of like you, you look stupid.
Yeah, but it's like they don't want to talk.
They don't talk. So that person and every person
that you've seen in the crowd work volunteered to take part,
which is a thing that I don't think people understand because
sometimes people go like, oh, how can Israelis or Russians

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come to your shows? And I'm like, yeah, but.
They came, yeah. They volunteered to take part.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
I know there are people from allsorts of countries that I would
love to talk to, but if they don't want to talk, I don't talk
to them. Like the the the thing that I
was, we spoke about this earlierthat I felt a little bit sad
from all of these shows in Asia,a lot of countries, the locals

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don't want to talk. Yeah.
Like an Asian thing. Isn't it weird that I went to
Tokyo and spoke to a Norwegian? Yeah, I'm going to Norway.
Yeah. What's the point?
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. No, no.
But I think it's a culture, Yeah.
It's a culture of like losing face and stuff like that.
Yeah, here I would say you you should be fine at at your show
tonight and everything, but likeyou would get if you went to
like a local Cantonese show, they've got to like you.

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And I always say that the the key is to not let them feel that
they're the only one. So even if you were to make fun,
let's say he says he fights retards in a Cantonese show, you
genuinely would be like, well, what the hell, You know, you'd
be like wow, dude, that's wow. Like you have to let them know
like I'm not singling like you're weird.
It's kind of like I'm not good enough to understand how this is
a job. Please explain to me.

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You know, it's one of that humble things that kind of go
like, oh, OK, let me be the wiser person and teach you.
Do you think that's because of the language?
Because not the Cantonese or English, but the language in a
place where that language is native.
Yes. Because in English it's I think
it's a different type of audience.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because also the English
audience has seen comedy. The whole upbringing is

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different. So as I always said, me doing
comedy in let's say Australia, whatever, right?
People grew up watching comedy. They know what it's like,
they've seen performance arts. Whereas like let's say in Hong
Kong, people, we don't grow up, we don't go to in school, we
don't get comedy to watch. So when we're at a show and
someone talks to us, we're taught in school, but like when
the teachers talk and listen. So if someone's talking and you
will see people initially before, not so much now they

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laughing like, oh, let's let himfinish talking before I laugh.
I don't want to interrupt him because we're taught that, you
know, he's speaking, respect him.
So there's a lot of that where people don't get it.
So for example, I've had shows where I talk to people in the
front row in Cantonese and they're like, huh, why are you
talking to me? What's going on?
It's like, no, that's the culture.
They're like, what? Huh.
You know I came to support you. Explain at the top of the show,
because I think that I've realized that I have to do at

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every show at the beginning, I have to explain to them how the
show is going to be structured exactly.
They've never seen the show. It's not that they wouldn't go
along with it, it it's just theydon't no why I'm talking to
them. Yeah, yeah.
So I agree with you. So you have seen enough to
realize you have to explain initially when we first started.
Yeah. Because we see English.
Really. Yeah.
It's understood. And you do candies like it's not
understood and to the point yet.So you got the education aspect

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as well. Yeah.
Now we also have to be very careful because like when you
start the show, it's like, OK, everyone, what's going to happen
is we might talk to you in the front row.
What will happen? Like, screw that, let's get up.
Yeah. Yeah.
You'll get like, freak him out. Get out of there.
So you kind of build the rapport, let them know I'm
harmless. And then when you talk to them,
they're like, OK, I'll play along.
This guy's nice. So it's that kind of
relationship where in general, in Hong Kong at least, is that

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we do not want to be singled out.
Yeah. You know, like nobody wants to
be the Rock. Like, hey, everyone, look at me.
Don't. Don't look at me.
Don't look me. Don't.
People don't like rocking the boat in general.
Like you don't want to be the one who like.
The one who rocked Yeah, yes, yes, yeah.
Because otherwise you could, it could go both ways.
And generally we lean on the don't fuck it up, dude.
Yeah, just you ruin the whole shows.
Like, yeah, I'm not even risk. You don't want to take a
response. And that actually goes beyond

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even being an audience member. People, even people at work
here, are more generally less, less willing to, like, do
something out of the ordinary ina way.
Because yeah, yeah, it's just, it's scary, right?
It's risky. Yeah.
I don't wanna be the one to point to tell the boss that
like, hey, maybe you, it's not right or whatever.
You do it, I'll back you up, butI'm.
Not exactly. I'm not gonna be the one,

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Victor. Job right to do that.
Exactly. So for us, yeah.
For us, you can be like, go on stage, like, hey, isn't that
weird that I was like, yeah, it is weird.
Yeah, yeah. Thank you for saying it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do have something to ask you
about. We're running out of time, so
we're going to jump to the patreonpatreon.com/our pod.
But before we do, how do people find you online?
And also, how do people sign up for you to go to their village?

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Because apparently anyone else can.
I can can. Request you.
I'm actually planning next year to to go outside of like because
this is what I'm trying to do inthe summer.
I'm trying to get out of my comfort zone and, you know, come
here. Yeah.
Then I'm trying to go to to Africa, South America and yeah,
just to see the world, eat the food, talk to the people, see
what, you know, colonialism and empires have done to them.

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Yeah, it's always interesting totalk.
We will have your website. Is it just your name, right?
Yes, victorpatrascon.com. We'll have it on the in the show
notes as well as your Instagram as well.
Instagram, very funny stuff because you post about it like
you post shows, snippets from the shows in the yeah, yeah,
yeah. Very entertaining.
Not just to follow his his stuff, but it's it's very funny.
And I am now also a fan outside of hopefully being friends.

(54:19):
With you, yeah. You really are.
Yeah, he's a good comic. So we're going to jump to our
page and what I was looking for,just to give people a little bit
of background, you posted something a while ago.
I never asked you about this before you post something, but
it might have been a story aboutall of your likes and dislikes
you're kind of like you're introducing to.
So that was really interesting to me.
I was trying to find it on your account but I think it might

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have been a story. Right, No, no, no, it's a it's a
post. It's about I think that I like
and to kind of, you know, I feellike.
But it's a very long list. That's why it's interesting,
because some things to it I wanted to like ask you more
about. But so we'll do that on the
Patreon. So yeah, you can join us on the
patreonpatreon.com/opod and you can also help me find the post
because I can't find it. Yeah.

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In the meantime, we have a bunchof stuff coming up.
Vivek, are you're here in Hong Kong for?
Yeah, I'm actually, I'm actuallygoing to be going to Kowloon for
in Singapore to do my Cantonese shows the end of July.
So I have that one happening. Yeah.
But generally I've been in Hong Kong during summer.
Great. So we have a lot of stuff
planned. We are having the Hong Kong
comedy season and kicking off middle of August with Joe Wang
shows at the Kitty Wu Stadium August 13 or 14.

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And then we have My 3 Current and Ben Quinlan in two separate
theaters in September, plus about 10 shows at base Hall.
So you'll also see comedy seasondot HK website in the show
description. So please just buy some tickets
because it's a lot. Basically, I'm using it as a
proof of concept for the government, for companies for
the years to come. I'll explain that in another

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episode. So.
We don't go for too long. Congratulations.
Thank you so much. So many shows, both of you.
It's good. Thank you.
Thank you. Everyone's active, right?
Yeah, yeah, everyone is active. Thank you, everyone.
Thanks for support. And we'll see you here next week
on the Patreon. Thanks, Victor.