#227 - Vivek Opens for Jimmy O. Yang in Macau, Then Goes On A Holiday

Vivek took his long-awaited holiday in a fancy villa in Bali with 10 of his closest people (Mohammed Magdi didn't make the cut), but he did the holiday in the most Vivek way possible.

We also catch up on the shows Vivek did in Macau with Jimmy O. Yang. How different were they from the Hong Kong shows? And he reveals the crazy souvenir he had to take back from his dressing room.

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Episode Transcript

(00:01):
So I reiterate here, the bill isdead.
The story of this great city is about the years before this
night. You start.

(00:24):
Hey everyone, this is Ho Ho HongKong with me, Vivek Mabubani and
he Who is. He he is not non starter today.
Mohammed Magdi, I realized actually for the last like 8
episodes you have been making mestart.
I don't know if it's on purpose.Yeah, yeah, I have no idea.
Just I I guess it's his turn. Yeah, well, it's because you do
the clapping and I'm like. Oh yeah.

(00:44):
OK. Yeah.
Because I think that's why what it is.
If I clap, that's probably that means he's got to do something,
yes. If I'm opening, he probably
clap. I don't know.
What's my cue? I have no idea what's been
happening in the last few weeks of my life.
I've just been like non-stop forthe last what, 5 weeks?
I know I don't. Know what's been going on?
Yeah, dude, every, every time I see you, you're like kind of in
a daze. Oh, yeah.
I mean, in a good way. Obviously I have a lot going on,

(01:06):
but it is, it is a lot. First of all, First things
first. And this is like huge for our
listeners who have been following for a while, Vivek
took a freaking holiday. Like an actual.
Oh yeah, listen, you forgot already.
An actually legitimate holiday and a resort.
Yeah, it's been. Two weeks.
Wait, I can't remember. No, actually, I just just come
back. Crap.

(01:26):
Yeah, dude, my life is so packedthat I could come back from a
holiday. Yeah.
And let's say three days later, I'm like, it's been 2 weeks
already. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so tell us about the holiday. 1st All right, so
officially I went on three days,well, taking three nights to
Bali with my. Family yeah, went to Bal.
Damn. I was like, Thailand's too

(01:47):
close, yes, you know, going to Japan is like too scary, then
you go to Bali instead. Right.
Why is Japan too scary? This whole earthquake thing
supposed to happen like all this, like the the the the fear.
Of like, isn't that always happening in Japan?
I think now it's just become thenew hype.
So OK, now it's the, it's the, it's the in thing, you know, to
get earthquake. I don't know, OK, Like I was
like, Nah, but the Bali thing was actually a while ago.

(02:08):
We actually planned that way back, OK?
Way before even the Jimmy Yang thing, man.
What? OK, really?
So it was like booked and everything was and that's
because your sister was in town.No.
So basically there was this whole thing where I managed to
get a Bali villa right for free.You couldn't not really free.
I had to like kind of it's hard to say like it's not officially
free, but I technically want it.But I didn't really just go

(02:30):
there. But hey, I got something for.
Free. I mean, that also makes perfect
sense why you ended up going on holiday because knowing you, you
got some really good deal. Really good deal.
It's not because you want to. Yeah.
Yeah, it's not that right. It's.
OK, that's all checks out now, right?
It's like. Actually voluntarily took off.
OK, I don't know if you want to talk about this, but how did you
win a villa? So actually at a bidding event

(02:51):
for charity, I would manage to bid and become the highest
bidder for this villa. Were you emceeing?
I was exactly, Yeah, I wasn't against.
Obviously, I wasn't against. So you're ever seeing and you
decided to. Just rig it.
Yeah. To you.
Yeah. And apparently I was like, well,
you're like go. On Coach Me.
Yeah, I was like, well, they're like, but we didn't raise them.

(03:13):
I'm not even telling you what the lot is.
Yeah, lovely. Item number 4 is gone, but what
was going on? I'm like, well, I don't know,
some mysterious donor. I think I, I might have
mentioned this here. I was doing something similar,
like as an event, I was MC, but I was actually just bought a
ticket while I was MC. Yeah.
And you know what? This raffle tickets or whatever.
Yeah. And I actually go like, because
I have a list of the of their prizes.

(03:35):
Yeah. I'm like, oh, this is a really
cool price. Yeah.
Yeah, let's pick the next number.
And it's just my number. It looks so rigged.
Yeah. But it actually was, it was
like, you know, smart watch and a power bank and a bunch of
stuff together. They give it to you.
They Yeah, you win, right? Yeah.
Because officially you're legitimate.
You got. Legitimate winner and I bought
the thing but it was like the next minute.
Yeah, you're like, OK, that's not that good.
But yeah, OK, yeah, MC the event.

(03:57):
Yeah. So basically, Long story short,
I have this Bali villa that I won and it caters to up to 10
people. Yeah, right.
And I was like, well, OK, I guess this is happening.
Thanks for the invitation. Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know what? Yeah, exactly.
Apparently I have 11 relatives. I'm like, you just missed out,
man. You just missed out.
Yeah. Yeah.
So Long story short, basically Imessaged my sister and my Mama.

(04:19):
I do you guys want to do this? Yeah, this sound good.
Like, yeah, I'm like, okay, let's just get this done.
This is another thing about the Mabani family.
Let me also just like, you know,Yeah, interfere and say this is
how they work. You win a villa.
Yeah. And for like a cheap deal or
whatever. Yeah.
So you decide because you don't want to miss out on this villa.
You pay, you get your sister from the UK.

(04:42):
Yeah. To come to Hong Kong, then to go
to Bali. Yeah.
And then you pay money for your your mom, yourself and your
girlfriend. So you don't lose that.
Whatever. You want to do?
Yeah, exactly. It makes perfect sense.
This is. This is the.
Same concept as someone that would take a bus.
Yes, go to a shop that sells something for $5.
Yes, yes, yes, and. Be like, I got the discount.

(05:03):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's how we we brought up
this. Is one of the most Hong Kong
stories I've heard in a long. Time exactly Oh full on man, I
messed them. They're like, you want to do it
They're like yeah. And now like I was like, OK,
let's let's make this happen. Sure.
And then here I am going like, oh, wait a second.
All they have to do is just agree I'm going to do all the
leg work. Yeah.
Oh shit, yeah, OK, so. Anyway, long story show, we

(05:23):
managed to get the whole villa. I booked everything, got
everyone flying down. We I brought all my dude.
We went like I got all my cameras, everything.
I was like rock'n'roll. Oh my God.
I got a friend who's also a photographer.
I was like, you coming with us as well?
You're hanging out with us as well, Yeah.
Yeah, you brought your own photographer.
He's like a weird celebrity. He's a he's a old classmate of
mine that I know. He does video and photo.
I'm like, buddy, you know me, you know my style.

(05:44):
But wait, you flew him down? I'm so confused about what this
was. So what he was like in in one of
the shacks, like a paparazzi, like just like.
No, no, no, he, he because we, Iwas like, you must hang out with
us. Yes, we have the code
technically. And also I was like, I want to,
you know, document this thing for the family and everything.
And then so I was like, what better way?
Because like, if I get if I get from there, I don't know what

(06:06):
they're like and we're in the villa.
I don't want this guy staying with us.
Secondly, if I fly some from Hong Kong, like, you know, they
have a oh, we only work till 6:00 PM Sure, sure. 10 hour
shifts today. I'm like, Oh my God, this is
going to be terrible. Yeah, I said, what if I just get
a friend that I know? I'm like, hey, let's hang out.
All I need to do is bring your equipment.
Yeah, and we'll have a great time.
He's like. So what is he filming?
I'll just random you like, imagine, imagine.
OK, imagine. This was just like a 50th

(06:28):
anniversary party, you know, youhave the video team on site
filming random stuff. I was like, dude, you hang out
with us so. It's kind of like AI guess, like
the homemade yeah, start like yes, yeah.
So if someone fell in the pool, you will end up on like
America's Funnies. Exactly.
Why would you want to get wet ona dry day?
One of those things. So yeah, I had him there.
I was like, OK, cool, this is all covered because I knew

(06:50):
myself. I was like, if I go to this
thing, I'm going to have my cameras.
I'll be like all the time with my camera trying to take
pictures. All me.
I don't want to miss that shot. Yeah, dude, I don't want to be
doing that. I mean, I know I know the answer
to this, and I know every listener knows already, but can
you just fucking chill I. Actually.
Like can you like chill as a notworry about the other thing
outside of you just like bummingaround?

(07:12):
So I try that you're still. Thinking of like the cameras and
the light and stuff. Absolutely.
Dude, it was so insane. What is wrong?
I told my friend. My friend's name is Bun, right?
We went there day, day one. We had a little table.
We whipped out all our equipment.
Yeah, dude, this was like, actually like a video, like a
movie shoot or something, right?We brought everything.
We had cameras. I brought all my best stuff.

(07:32):
I'm like rock'n'roll when I wantevery shot and everything.
And then during the day, of course, I'm trying to pull
myself back without, you know what, I just don't say nothing.
Just let him do his thing, trusthis thing.
But every now and then, you know, you see that shot you with
the signing, Like, dude, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The sun is setting. Yeah, go for it.
Yes, yes, yes. And then of course, I was like,
so the whole deal was like 4 days, three nights.
And I told my family I was like,what's going to happen is I have

(07:52):
a few criteria. Yeah.
I literally felt like, you know,that grandfather that invites
the whole family. Yes, yes.
All right, we're going to have one.
You're. Sitting here, Yeah, You guys are
giving. Me one night with the family,
everyone else go party. I don't care that that night
we're sitting in this room, right?
So we go there. I was like first night because
included is a very beautiful feast where they have like this
full pig that they roll. Yeah, that's so cool.
It's so cool right And I was like first night we are doing

(08:14):
that so everyone get in settle down all this up and then we.
Tell them what to wear and stuff.
I'm not there yet. You're there.
So first night I was a casual. Whatever, right?
OK, so all I care is that 7:00 PM you are going to be in this
area to enjoy the dinner. Yeah.
The idea was because also Gloria's parents were there.
Oh wow. OK.
Yeah, I got them down there as well.
And I was like, all right, I want everyone, you know, we can

(08:36):
mingle again. Wait.
So how many people in total? 10?
Oh, you actually got filled? Till 10 so.
It's you, Gloria, Your mom, yoursister.
Our parents, that's 6/1. And his wife, Sally.
Yeah, and my uncle from India and his wife as well.
You flew them from India? No, no, they flew themselves,
right. I was like, I made them a deal.
I say if you fly to Hong Kong. Yeah.
And we fly from Hong Kong there.Yeah.

(08:56):
I'll I'll cover you. We'll cover the Bali, yeah.
But they were like, no, we just go directly from India.
I'm like, your choice. All right.
The reason why 'cause I was like, logistically, I'm like, if
I get everyone in Hong Kong, we take the same flight,
everything's cool. Yeah.
And also I, I included a shuttlefrom the airport to the resort.
Nice. I just want to cover that.
Yes. He's like, no, no, no, no, no,
we're gonna go from India. And I'm like, crap.
So I had to cover a shuttle fromthe airport to his.
Whatever, doesn't matter. OK, so we're all over there.

(09:18):
First night, my rule was simple.We all going to sit at this
goddamn table and eat and just get to know each other.
All right? That was the thing.
So we're all doing it. So funny.
Now, I got to be honest with you, man.
If you look at the photos, you're like, dude, this was
pretty cool. Yeah.
Long table, wooden table next tothe poolside.
You got people catering. Everything is all covered.
Oh wow, there was like staff andeverything like.

(09:40):
Serving you? Yeah.
Oh my. God, that is pretty awesome.
Right, pretty awesome, right? Were people drinking there was
drinking nice because they they there was this thing called arca
or akra it's like this you know like absinthe yes something some
but using a corn or something yes yes and it was like really
strong right yeah now most of myfamily don't drink right then I
was like you will have a little sip you know we couldn't finish
it obviously but this is pretty cool and I was like this one I'm

(10:02):
talking about yes yes this is what it's all about all right OK
so second day I was like day 2 we are all staying in the
village just enjoying this wholeplace it's.
Huge man. There is a pool obviously like
people are like pool, swimming, playing, whatever and no
children either. Oh wait, I didn't clarify this
is a private villa. What is a?
What does a? Private villa, whole space is
ours so we've got 7 bedrooms. What?

(10:23):
Yeah. A whole.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about yeah, yeah, yeah.
This was not just let's go to a hotel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
This was ours, yes. And.
With the staff included. With staff included.
What? But of course, if you want
meals, you got to pay extra. But yeah.
Yeah. But you have a whole Butler, all
that stuff. Ready.
OK. Where?
Anything you please. Tell me everybody works in the
villa was white. That would be so fun.
No, no, no, no. I made sure about that.

(10:44):
I'm like no, no, no, no I don't.It would be funny if all the
servants are just like. Russian guys.
Exactly. We couldn't ball like, yeah, I'm
like, no, we don't want that experience, man.
So, OK, we're there the whole day just enjoying this chill.
I'm like, you know, everyone do your own thing.
All I said is that tonight at 7:00 PM, So at 7:30 PM, we are
going to do a family portrait. Yeah.
All right, Me and my friend Bum,we're going to sort everything

(11:05):
out, right? Yeah.
So we found the space. Everything.
I said that's the one night smart casualty.
I told them way back, I have onedress code only for that one
night. All right, We get everything
done. Me and Bun are doing the whole
like magazine cover photo shoot thing.
Everyone sits this way. Everyone sits that way.
So basically what happened is that because me, like, Bun
totally understands me. He knows my personality where
I'm like, dude, I don't want none of that.
Just sit over there. Yeah, everyone's happy smiles.

(11:27):
I'll say no, no, I need good quality shit, right?
So what happened is that we thought about the magazine
covers and everything, and basically we put like, wow,
yeah, we had everyone. I don't.
Know if you want that on video? But I don't think okay probably
do this. One.
Yeah, it's very cool. Yeah, that's super nice.
Right, so that's you see me and Bun figuring yeah, additions and
all that. Love the lighting and
everything. It's a very cool photo, yeah.

(11:48):
Right over there. So that was it.
Once we do that shot you. Guys are free.
You're free to do whatever the hell you want.
You're basically like that, you know, back in like the 30s and
the 20s when they had like the one camera with the powder and.
Yeah, yeah, Curtain the guy. You're the guy behind the
curtain. Like, all right, everyone's
going to get, let's get ready. But.
Yeah, and everybody's like, OK, for Grandpa, there is World War

(12:11):
One happening outside. I don't care.
I don't care exactly man. But that actually also makes
sense. I think you knowing yourself,
being self aware, that's your decision of not having kids
makes perfect sense. Yeah, because you don't want to
pass down the psycho. Oh, let me.
Put it this way, if I did have kids, they I've always said this
from day one. I'm like their life will be

(12:31):
miserable. Yeah.
It will be military training to the point of you'll be happy now
until 11:00 PM and 11:00 PM you're going back into work mode
and get the shit done yes and I guarantee they'll grow up and be
like so anti that yes of course be like just.
Basically, yeah, yeah, yeah. Any.
Fuck the system, fuck there. Any rules ever?
Super lazy, get nothing done. Yeah, because.

(12:53):
Their dad was fucking dead dude.Relax man.
Like no. You relax when you're dead.
Yes, yes. OK.
Wow. OK.
So we did that and basically, Long story short, the next week,
the next week went out, we went snorkeling this and that was
pretty cool. OK, so you did like the I did
the all about people's stuff. Oh yeah.
Outside of all the psychotic photo shoots.
Oh, absolutely. So you're like, did you go to

(13:14):
the beach? That's that's a running.
Theme We went to the beach. OK, but you just sit on the
beach and like, look at it, no. No, no, We had a full day.
Because actually, what happens with 10 people, what happens is
everyone's got a little request.You know, I wanna go here.
I'm gonna go. Yeah, you wanna buy souvenirs?
Yeah, that's right, The mango. Yeah, all that shit, right?
Yeah. I was like, don't worry, I will
cover everything. This is like when I was like
telling my uncle I was like Isaac, first of all, let me

(13:35):
clarify. This is 10 people.
Yeah. When I run a show, buddy, Yeah,
I not only do I have to organizea show, Yeah, I'm also
performing. Yes, I'm not performing today.
This is nothing. To me, yes.
Yeah, this is easy. Yeah, This is actually, Yeah.
This is producing and not performing.
Yeah. For 10 people, it's nothing.
Yeah. Yeah.
We do it with your eyes closed. Yeah.
Exactly. So here I've got every schedule
and this is when, when I showed my true personnel, like for

(13:57):
example, right, like after the dinner that night, we had to go
back, right? It was 10 PM.
They're all having shit chat andeverything, and we're at the
restaurant. This is where I have to be the
guy watching the time I go pay everything sorted out.
Yeah. And they're all like Laha.
So how did you all meet all thisshit?
I'm like, you know what, we can continue doing this in the
villa. None of you can afford.
Let's go. Right.
And I'm like, I'm doing all thatstuff.
Like literally I tell them I waslike when the time came for me

(14:19):
to herd sheep. Yeah, I'm herding sheep.
Yes, yes. I'm not your friend.
I don't care. We are going here to there,
that's it. But between that, let's have a
good time. I wish in a parallel universe, a
victor who was our guest last episode was living here.
I would just actually replace mewith him just so you guys can,
because you are the polar opposites.

(14:40):
You're saying about how, you know, like, the interests of
everybody. Yeah.
And he's the exact opposite. He's like, don't tell me, like,
what's good for me. That dynamic could be so fun.
It's like a whole bit Victor, and they're like walking down
their friends, but they can't get around it.

(15:00):
Yeah, man. Yeah.
OK, so you're telling people, yeah, you're like, OK, now is
the time I paid. I don't care what you're
thinking. We're going to the next place,
going back to the villa. Exactly.
I had it all done. So I'll tell you this.
I first of all, I knew that my uncle was like he wants to go
like snow clay and go sightseeing on.
That's why I'm getting it done which.
Part of Bali, where are you? New Adusa.
Oh, nice. OK.
Right over there, right so. That's not even like, I mean

(15:22):
it's all touristy but that that no Adusa is like not that bad.
Yeah, it's not that bad. It's.
Not Changu or or the other one or boot or whatever.
Yeah, that's super touristy. This is like a bit far off,
which is good. That's exactly what I wanted,
right? So, so first of all, from day
one, I made a whole WhatsApp group, you know, right everyone,
I need you all to tell me what you would like to do.
Don't worry about logistically how to do it.

(15:42):
Don't worry about it if it's possible pricing it, just what
is it that you want to do? And obviously, you know, you
send that message and no one replies.
Yeah, every shy or whatever they.
Go and I'll wait for the first person.
Everything. Someone wants to see like that
circus or whatever, but they don't want to say they're hoping
someone else says. Yeah, you know, sure.
And then I reply, I was like, I just want to clarify everybody.
Like I'm making it very abundantly clear.
If four days we sit in the villa, I'm perfectly fine.
Yeah, yeah. And my mom was like, yeah, he

(16:04):
really would, yeah, be perfectlyfine with that.
Like buddy, there's wife, I havethe pool, I don't give a shit.
Right, Okay, so don't feel all like no, I don't want to be like
the one. I'm like I'm telling you all now
you are suggesting you are not deciding.
I decide yes if we're doing that, but if you don't suggest,
it will not happen. Right.
So this is what I have have to be very clear with everyone.
I was like, look, someone has tobe the bad guy.

(16:27):
Yes, all right. Otherwise all like, oh, you want
to do this? I don't know, Let's go over
there, but. You're countering being the bad
guy with paying for everything, so you.
Know notice that man I was like I am you are not doing me a
favor by showing up right let's.Make this very clear.
Yes, I am doing you a favor by inviting.
You. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. I made it very clear to
everyone. Let me make this very clear.
Everybody like this is not you or, you know, fine.
I'll go to his resort and have agood time.

(16:47):
Yeah. You have to be here.
Yeah. That pig doesn't need you to be
eating it. OK, Relax.
Right. So.
So all that stuff happened and of course, like, you know, just
dealing with comedians, you knowthat this one's going to be
late. That's going to happen.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I had stuff down, man. I was like, you're going to
take. Give me a flight details. 7:00
AM to 10:00 AM is the breakfast time.
All you have to make sure that you get down there between that
time, eat your breakfast and we're good, All right.

(17:08):
By 10:10 AM the car will be there because all I.
Just hope you're like also like going around like people have a
breakfast like still half sleepyand you're going around making
sure everyone eat their vegetables like different tables
and they're like those cars aren't fucking eat.
Themselves, Dude, let me tell you that man.
Like even at every restaurant, Iwas the one giving everyone's
order. I'm like, you will not be
ordering. I will order it.
Oh my God. Because when the waiter comes

(17:30):
down and they're like, oh, whichone is what?
Who? Who do you want?
Oh, no, no, no. You talk to me.
All right, You ordered a, you get AI.
Don't know, I think I'm not likeI'm not well read enough in
psychology to understand what this like this episode would say
about you. But I hope someone who is like,
smarter than me would just take this episode, this story, and

(17:50):
analyze it even further. About what kind of?
What kind of Right now, you as the person on the other side of
Yeah, the best thing is that youliterally have 0 things to worry
about. You only have to demand.
Yeah. And I give you some criteria and
all you have to say is can I can, can I do it or can I not?
All right. As simple as that.
I mean, obviously, you know, if I am included in that, the the,

(18:12):
the easiest argument is to go, well, I'm an adult.
I want, you know, just let me. So what will happen is I've
always given everyone the choice.
I was like, if you don't want tofollow this schedule, you're
gonna sleep our side. No, you can stay in the villa.
Yeah. That room of yours is yours for
the rest of the trip, right? Right.
So you don't want to join us. That's totally cool.
I respect it. I'm not forcing anyone.
The car will be there. 8 seats, 10 seats, whatever.

(18:34):
If you don't want to join nine seats, it doesn't matter.
I see. And I've given everyone.
I was like, at any moment, you're like, buddy, I don't want
to be part of this. I'm tired.
I'm like, that's fine. There's a car I will get for you
and you will go back to the villa and just chill.
Yeah, what do you want? That's fair.
Yeah. So there was no like this is it,
that's it. What's going to happen.
But I knew because what happens is that when you have a group of
people that everybody wants to be the chef.

(18:55):
Yeah, nothing is done. Yeah.
So from the get go, I have to make it very clear.
I'm not trying to be like, I'm the man shot.
Yeah. I'm like, look, someone's going
to be the one with the final decision.
Much like, let's say if you're an MC, everyone's going to give
you suggestions. Of course.
Who is the point person? No, it has to be.
Yeah, someone has to be in. Charge.
That's it. And I made it very.
Clear. I think that is you're right.
Like jokes aside, you are right in the nature running events in

(19:15):
general. Yeah, like someone has to be
can't be a democracy. Yeah, democracy doesn't work
here in that, In that, yeah. So I made it very clear.
I'm the director. You can be the producer,
whatever you want to say. You can suggest this.
You want to say I want to do that.
You can by all means, even like ask the Butler for a glass of
water and everything. Yes.
But what will happen is you willnot be the one to oh, you know
what? We're going to get the bus at
8:00 PM instead of seven. No, no, no.

(19:36):
Yeah. You are not the decision maker.
Director. Yes, that's.
Yeah, I will tell you that's. Why, Yeah, movies, anything has
one. It has to be 11, Captain.
Absolutely. So Long story short, everyone
had a good time. It's as simple as that.
That's kind of straight to that you can discuss.
This. I would love to get everyone
else's opinion but I know that'snot possible because they're not
allowed to talk. Exactly the time for talking the

(19:59):
feedback. Form is closed.
Yeah, Gloria is like just gaggedup.
She's not even in the house. She's like fed up.
She's like, oh God, he's going to tell me to do stuff again
now. Also, this looks like totally
sponsored, like you are pulling up a big house cookie and I have
a fine print cup and it looks like just product placement and

(20:22):
absolutely isn't. But we were We're open.
We'll place your products. Yeah, we'll place your products
on our video and audio. Yeah, we'll talk about sometimes
when you're. Yeah, if it's just something
audio or whatever and you wanna make sure it's.
So you say the name like casually.
Yeah. I wonder if this bake house
cookie is gonna be tasty. Yeah.

(20:43):
So, yeah, OK, so you had a greattime.
Yeah, obviously between the Jimmy O Yang shows, which by the
way, if you're on YouTube, the Jimmy O Yang episode, I don't
know if it's the name or the algorithm or whatever that that
that did pretty well. Really.
Oh, OK, full. Episode even.
Oh shit. So go back and and watch that as
well. I'll tell you.
I'll tell you a fun story, though.
Actually, the Jimmy O Yang Macaushows, yeah, fell on the weekend

(21:06):
I was flying to Bali. Yeah, I know so.
Friday. Saturday.
Yeah, I'm in Macau. Yeah, Sunday I'm flying to Bali.
But you've came back to Hong Kong 1st and then flew to Bali.
Yes. So what happens?
My body flights were always done.
Yes, yes. OK, so check this out.
So it's like Friday morning, I had to go to a school to give a
talk 8:30 in the morning because, again, this is all
before Jamie. Whatever, right?
Yeah. So I had that 830 thing and I

(21:27):
was OK, fine. And I knew, Jamie, I would have
to be there for the rehearsal at4:30.
So they got me a 2:30. Ferry at the Macau, yeah, yeah,
OK. Which is fine.
Yeah, I come home and I'm like, I gotta pack up the stuff for
Jamie. I gotta finish a few more
things, and I have not had time to pack up the body stuff now.
I will only come back to Hong Kong on Saturday night, getting
the 11:00 PM ferry. Yeah.
And then I'll be home 1231 o'clock whatever.

(21:49):
And I'm flying 10 AM on Sunday. Yeah, tomorrow.
OK. Right.
OK. So I, this is the weird thing.
I'm in Macau on Saturday in my hotel room, going like I can't
pack shit. Yeah, but I have time now, yeah.
OK, what to? Do so I was like this would do
my work whatever I could, but I was like ah, this is so annoying
man. I need a packs up so I'm in my
room trying to write a list of stuff I want to take to Bali.
Sure. Yeah, I'm you know.

(22:10):
Just being productive. Yeah, yeah.
And then this is the craziest thing.
I come back and I and I tell everyone like, hey, you know
what? We don't need to take shit to
Bali. Yeah, We just have like, like,
swimming trunks, whatever. Yeah, a few T-shirts and we're
good. And what The funny thing is that
20 kilos in my suitcase was equipment.
Of course I took a stand. I took a light bulbs, I took
like. You took a tripod like a stand.

(22:31):
To I took like light stands. Even though you have your
photographer buddy. He because he needed me to bring
I see, I see, you know, so all that stuff.
So basically Long story short, like I was like, this is crazy.
We're literally taking equipmentmore than clothes, but yeah,
that was a cool thing. I was like, this is going to be
interesting, man. So I took everything because
I'll let's have it all there ready to go.
But the best thing I have to sayis like me and my friend Bond,
like we thought of all the stuffwe discussed.

(22:52):
We can have that. I have this camera, you have
that camera. We we had like 3, No 4 cameras
sitting there. So you can just whip up 1 camera
with this lens to take a shot. So we had everything covered.
We even had a drone. We've got a drone of the whole
villa. You have a drone?
Oh my. God, yeah, dude, we had the
drone, dude, let me tell you, OK, in 20 years time, when we
look back, we will remember thatocean in front of us.
Yeah, that we were like looking at and it's going to slowly fly

(23:14):
towards us. Yeah.
And you have a shot. So one of my favorite shots of
this whole thing. OK, You never play these video
games where they have all these non playing characters, NPCS
walking around. Of course, that's what I said.
We want to get one shot where the drone flies in and we're
just like walking around. It's so cool.
This one's chatting. I got that shot.
I'm like, we're done. Yeah, everything will go away
now. You know what's funny?
Like I think we're looking at these things like similarly and

(23:36):
also different, like how we approach it in the sense that,
like you document so much of this stuff as you keep saying,
like, you know, in 20 years or whatever, I can look back.
I actually look at this podcast the same way for our story, like
for my stories at least, becausea lot of stuff that happens and
then we kind of like, talk aboutit every week and then, like,
you know, your memory can just wipe out.
Yeah. So I caught up with my buddy

(23:57):
Akhil, who runs Craftisimo, and he's an avid listener of the
podcast, which is super cool. He reminded me that sometimes he
goes back to listen to some of his favorite episodes and he
reminded me of the story of me like when my family was here and
we were on like Lantau taking the taking the cable cars, but
then we also were rushing towards the the ferry and the

(24:18):
taxi drivers and absolute maniac.
And apparently I went through it.
Like in a lot of the details, I remember the story.
I don't remember more most of the details on That's so cool
because I can go back in a few years and this is like, oh shit,
that happened. So now that record is in a few
mediums, including YouTube and and you know, Spotify and all of
that stuff. But that is cool because I think

(24:39):
the difference is that a lot of this stuff for me is public
because it's just on the podcastand you're just keeping it in a
weird private stat. Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm very like in
that sense. Anybody who knows me knows that
my private life is very private.Not because I'm like, I got
stuff too hot. No, but you also you also record
a lot of the shows and do absolutely nothing.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's weird.
That's very weird. That's OK with me, man, because.

(24:59):
Even the school talks and stuff,you record a lot.
No, no, I don't record, though Ihave recorded a few.
Yeah, I have a lot of them photos.
I do every now and then post them.
See what happens is, to be very honest with you, is that there
are times when I'm like, you know what?
So, okay, so this is what I findis that when I'm super
overloadedly busy, yeah, then that's when I'm kind of
creatively like, I don't wanna deal with this right now, right?
I really care. So I'll go to like this last

(25:21):
week I've gone to like 3 schoolsto give toss and I didn't
document any of them right? Because I'm like.
It just doesn't matter, Yeah. No, it's just I'm, I'm too tired
to like put a camera, set it allup.
As the teacher of information. I'm like, you know what?
It's fine. Yeah, it's it's OK.
I have enough of these to prove I've done school toss as well.
Yeah. On the other hand, though, is I,
when I get into it, I know it's fun because when I had that shot
that I'll put on my stories and the kids are like, Oh my God,

(25:41):
where? Yeah, it's just exciting for
that. Yeah, that is cool.
Yeah. You know, actually a clever way
if you care. I know you don't that much, but
it's also a clever way to get followers.
Because yeah, yeah, that will help as well.
Yeah, I know what I mean. And it's one of those
compounding things where let's say someone that, oh, he goes to
schools, he does this, they seemlike having a good time.
Yes, yes. So what happens is, and what I
love is it's the people that used to short video clips.

(26:01):
I'm like, I don't know, maybe I just love the beauty of one
photo. Yeah, that just encapsulates the
whole thing. You're like, oh, I see the
moment and I know exactly what that feels like.
Of course. And that's it.
Yeah. So that's why even with this
whole and all that, I was like, I want more photos and videos
button is like all about video. But I'm like 2 videos is fine,
yeah. But I was like, I want that one
shot. I was like, oh that's a good
one. You know they're having a good
time. Speaking of memorable moments,

(26:23):
we actually haven't talked aboutthe Macau part of of Jimmy
Henschel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So just talk about this a littlebit because I can imagine, I
actually had friends at the Macau shows and they said, I
have someone who I've been to both Hong Kong and Macau and
this is something that we as stand ups fully understand.
But I think for her, she was disappointed because apparently

(26:44):
Jimmy went on social media and said, come to Macau, this is a
different show. Oh.
No, no, no, he. According to her, I have.
No, no, no, no. I think, I think he said it was,
it was like 60 minutes. It was the same show.
He he did mention that he'll introduce some Macau elements to
it. Yeah, but no.
Her just again, this is her perspective.
She said that she went to Macau fully expecting a different

(27:07):
show, but to to which I said I don't haven't seen Jimmy Sting
or whatever, but I did tell her that's insane because that's not
how stand up works. And she was like, no, I bought
another ticket and she was yeah,she was a little frustrated.
She felt like she was you know, she went like she was kind of
tricked. Yeah, into buying another
ticket. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, I don't know, I haven't seen.
I would I would look at the thing and say objectively what I

(27:29):
think, but I didn't see it. She's like, no, I saw a thing.
He said like, oh, Macau is so different friend and and that's
why she went. I I'm pretty sure what she
probably did is what a lot of guys do with their girlfriends,
ignore what they're really saying.
I heard what I want to hear. You said what you thought you
said, but I heard what I wanted to hear.
Yeah, right. So yeah, what are what were the
Macau elements? So, OK, so Macau first of all

(27:49):
because. A lot of our listeners went to
the Hong Kong shows as well. Yeah.
So obviously the Hong Kong show production level wise, way
higher, Yeah, way higher. Like you know, way more, more
fanatics and everything like that.
However, the Macau show, first of all, you have to understand
casino dynamics are that they don't want to keep people in the
room for two long. Yes, they want them to hear
enjoy a laugh and go back and gamble, right.
So there was a rule of like, he has to do like 60 minutes,

(28:10):
that's it. Like they don't want him to go
over. Yeah, Yeah, I think, I think, I
think they told me that 70 minutes is the Max, right,
Right. Then I do like, I think or he's
doing 60, I do 10 like that, right.
Because there was 1 opening. Oh.
Yeah, 9 that the other guys are not.
There they were not there. So when Nora was there was
instead of you like, like not you.
No, no. No, You took together.
Yeah. OK.
It was it was me Friday, Saturday, Nora.
Sunday. Right.
Right. Yeah.

(28:31):
So basically what happened is that they were quite strict with
the time. They like make sure it's clean
with the time. And on top of that, this one,
the production level, it's not that it was low.
It was obviously he wasn't bouncing up from the floor and
everything like. That, I mean, that's a whole.
Thing. The whole thing.
Because in there at the Colosseum you obviously have to
install that like somehow it's not like built into the
Colosseum. Stage, right, You build the

(28:51):
whole stage is built by these guys.
That's insane. Yeah, but it seems because the
organizer was a concert organizer, so they know all
these tricks and they've done the Colosseum 1000 times, so
they've got exactly everybody. Right.
So with Macau, the cool thing isthat I I had to go out and
basically do my set and obviously the first night
because in Macau there there's still a bit more old school
style. So in Hong Kong, very often with

(29:12):
concerts or comedy shows and stuff, what you'll find it with
David Wong and all that, when hesays the punchline, it's very
common for the producers to turnup the lights of the audience to
light up the audience. Yes, you know.
Yeah. And so I go out there for the
first night and I'm doing my stuff and like, every punch is
like Lottie's is lit up. Yeah.
And I was like, oh, they're doing this.
So why is that? That's.
Weird for the performer to be able to see the audience

(29:34):
laughing. Oh, but like, we judge, I mean,
I'm sure the sound we judge by sound, Yeah.
The problem is because like before, in olden times, first of
all is that with comedy it wasn't so frequent with the
laughter. So therefore every laugh has
that one thing. So every minute has maybe 2
light UPS. Yeah, yeah.
Versus now it's like every 10 seconds.
It's like this is too much now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So when it's so funny, just to imagine, like how it is like

(29:56):
from the performance point of view because you're like, hey,
look, the audience is laughing, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it is them. It's not Cam laughing.
So there was a bit of that whereI was like, oh, they're doing
this. I'm like, oh, I can't really
Beyoncé, but oh, don't do that, you know?
Yes. And I was like, well, whatever.
But you didn't know beforehand. I didn't know because like doing
the sound test, nobody's doing this stuff.
Sure, sure, sure. Because even when doing sound
check, I came there, I did my rehearsal.

(30:17):
I told him I was like, look, look, I want you to be.
Let's be very clear. Yeah.
I want the setting to be the same as what Jimmy wants for his
part. Right.
Right. So the audience is used to it
already. Yes.
So me being here before Jimmy doesn't really make much sense
because, again, I'll tell you, Ilike it this way that he doesn't
like that way. You know, I don't want them to
do my part my way and his part his way because my whole job is
to get them used to this environment, to enjoy it.
Yeah. So now I was like, look, let me

(30:38):
test the sound. It's all good.
Lights are good. I know where I can sound very
good. Let Jimmy come.
I'll be here. We can talk this out.
Yeah. So this was cool because there
was a smaller venue and therefore you, Jimmy was over
there and he was happy to hear my suggestions.
Yeah, I was on standing while like, you know what?
You had a huge name behind you. I didn't even know.
I didn't even know. Yeah, I didn't.
Know it on stage you didn't knowI.
Didn't know, just look I. Saw like yeah I know, but.
So I didn't know. But you walk from, you walk out

(31:00):
from the side. So during the test time I didn't
see that. That's so funny.
Yeah. When did you realize you have a
gigantic name behind you? After the first night, first
show. So you did the whole set.
I didn't know. Yeah, he's like, I didn't know.
And The thing is, because they act then people tag you on
Instagram. I'm like, yes, what the hell?
What? I thought that you.
Knew from the post, yeah. Because that is a big VIVK, the

(31:21):
huge name with me. Yeah.
And not just when I walk out. The whole set.
Yeah. Yeah, 10 minutes of my name.
Yeah, I think, OK, I guess we'redoing this, you know, but my
point is that so we did the lights in town and at no point
did they do the whole fade in life, fade out life thing,
right, Right. So I do my set and they're doing
that. I'm like, OK.
And I was fully aware that people are still getting
settled. It's the first show we get in.

(31:42):
There's a kid in the front row, right?
He's like 9 years old. Whatever.
OK. And I'm doing my set.
I'm thinking like, should I address him?
I'm like, I don't know, maybe I'll leave for Jimmy.
Yeah, yeah. To point out, 'cause I want to
kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 'cause I
know as an, as a warm up openingact, I don't want to do crowd
work, 'cause that's my not my job.
Yes. I don't want to burn the crowd.
I don't want to do it. They're not here to see, of
course, warmed up and let's go now on top of that is that they

(32:03):
were like, oh, also, could you please tell people not to take
photos and videos? Yeah, before you end your set?
And I'm not the typical all right, everyone, just like no,
no photos, no videos. Yeah, yeah.
You don't want to be like, yeah.You know, yeah, because I know
like the dynamic is like they'relike, yeah, sure, whatever.
I don't care. I'm going to take my photos if I
want to. Right, right, right.
And then so I'll have to do thiswhole narrative like I, you know
what the. I hope I thank you, everybody.
It was a lot of fun. Now, this is the beautiful thing

(32:23):
about right now we're all here watching a live comedy show.
This is the beauty of live comedy.
You know, everything is the highest definition.
You can see. This is the moment you can laugh
together. And what will hurt is that if
you put a Google screen in frontof you, Yeah.
And you're watching just. Make a little joke.
Out of it, yeah. And I was like, you know, and
you bought the ticket. You.
Why are you looking at a screen when other people can't do that
they'll do that kind of thing, right?
A little emotional thing where I'm like, don't do that yeah.

(32:44):
And I'm like. And so I want to.
Say we all know if they're paying X amount of money to see
Jimmy, he walks out, he will take photos like there's no
question in the set. No, I know, I know that's.
Why? I said, and I'll make you a
deal, right? Don't take your phone now.
Let's all put our phones away for this one next hour.
Let's just enjoy a lot. How did I see?
I think I saw someone. I don't even remember if it was
like live or on video. And he said like, take your

(33:06):
photos now. It's just going to look the same
for the whole hour. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is like really clever. It's like a send up.
Like, you know, it's not a freaking dancer.
It's not going to change. It's.
Not going to change. So I thought that was really, I
don't remember who it was anymore, but like, yeah, someone
walked out and actually I'm like, oh, we should probably
steal that, like. For the big shows.
It's a good idea. OK, I'm going to be here for the
next 5 minutes. Yeah, 5 minutes.
Just take the photos now and then.

(33:28):
It's going to be the same. So Jimmy actually did that in
Hong Kong. He's like, if you want to get
your phones out now, this is themoment you end up when you the
third time. Mccabbie didn't specify that
because you might want to get into a set.
Yeah. But yeah, Yeah.
There was a lot I had to tell myI was put a phone out there.
Can we all agree to that? Yeah.
All right. Let's put the phone.
And oddly enough, dude, no phones.
Wow. Normally I have to show people
tag you and everything. Are they barely in the test?

(33:49):
Like wow, OK, then maybe it's not a good thing.
Well, I mean, no, I, I think at this point again, I've got to
put, put down my ego. No, no, tag me.
No, Jimmy doesn't. Maybe even for him like.
No, I think, I think he doesn't need it.
Right. OK, let's be honest.
Yeah, he doesn't need it. Yeah.
So OK, we did that and that was the cool thing and I finished
the set and I watched the set and I knew his bits, I knew his
order. Of course, the coolest thing is

(34:09):
that we're doing 2 shows a night.
So Friday was I believe 8:30 and10:30 PM 10/30 10:30 Oh I was
like God. Damn, dude.
Yeah, yeah, that's it. So you're finishing at midnight?
Yeah. Wow.
I know. That's crazy.
I was like, OK, I guess we're doing that, you know?
But what what that does do is makes people want to stay the
night so they get a hotel. Smart.
Because the next morning I was at the little breakfast place

(34:30):
and a few people who came to theshow like eating Oh, we like you
stop. Oh, you stayed.
So everybody stayed. Yeah, yeah, I'm.
A smart mood, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So. From the from the hotel for.
Yeah, there was that as well. Yeah.
So a lot of that and. So wait, did you survey how many
people in the audience are from Macau versus Hong Kong?
We didn't ask like we I think half and at least half and half
at least. OK.
Yeah. Wow.
OK, in Hong Kong? Interestingly, because we will

(34:51):
talk about this in the next episode, interestingly, when we
were putting together the Joe Wang show in Macau, he's doing
the Galaxy as well, another venue called the G Box.
OK, it's not the same venue that's 5000, but they had told
us actually like we're going to go for an English show on a
Mandarin show and he said don't do an English show.
There's not enough expats basically.
Obviously Jimmy's a different story, but like there's said,

(35:13):
like we highly recommend you don't do an English show.
Yeah, yeah. Which is actually, I don't know.
I don't know how you like. I agree because I think again
people came to watch Jimmy O Yang, now watch an English
comedy show. Yeah, that's very clear.
Yeah. But it's like, I mean, I don't
know much about Macau outside ofwhatever superficial
information, but apparently likea lot of the expats, just like,

(35:34):
yeah, it's not as you know, not as international.
But why is that? I think because a lot of the
expats there just work there, sothey're not really there to have
fun and they'll leave Macau to go somewhere to have a good
time, I see. And also a lot of them are the
hotel staff or casino staff they're working at that time.
Yes, Yeah, yeah. So they're not gonna.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, I don't, I agree with
that. If you're gonna do English, do
it in Hong Kong, not in Macau, right.

(35:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's not enough of a poll.
Even the local Macau people, like I said, the Jimmy O Yang
thing was a bit hype as well. So therefore people like we got
to watch this, you know, and also the accent this and that.
Of course, all that's going to add up.
How how much of your like because obviously you're set
especially for this opening set.Yeah, you, it was very Hong Kong
centric. Yeah.
How did you have to adapt anything?

(36:16):
I don't really just like this work to Hong Kong material and
then it's like, you know, it would work.
Because it translates to Macau. Macau people are very similar to
Hong Kong people, right? So they still do the same
habits. You can and they and they're
very pro can no but. Then you have like an MTR bit
for example. They know it.
Yeah, they know. Yeah.
They take the train. You're.
Just assuming that, like, everybody is very familiar with
Hong Kong because I guess like, yeah, you know, better because

(36:37):
you're a local. Yeah.
But I would if I'm performing inMacau, I might worry that like,
oh shit, let's make Hong Kong references you.
Know, like, literally a lot of Macau people will come to Hong
Kong all the time. It's very common.
It's like, no big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So a lot of that stuff, it translates very well.
And on top of that, it's really a more storytelling.
You can just imagine the scene. Yeah.
And lastly, I didn't realize this, but like in Macau, they're
also very pro Cantonese because a lot of tourists.

(36:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When I was like, can he's a
great language. Out of the five four shows, at
least we got applause breaks just from saying I love like I'm
like, OK, nice. Yeah, yeah.
So that's pretty interesting. That's amazing.
And give us a little bit of a scoop behind the scene because
did you, did you hang out with Jimmy more?
A little bit more. Of this time.
I figured from the photos, yeah,yeah, yeah.
So what did you guys do with thestuff that you can say?

(37:21):
So, so basically, like between shows, you have like an hour to
two hours time. Obviously he's got to do meet
and greets with the VIPs who come to the dressing rooms,
right? This time is right next to his.
Yeah. So I'm, I'm just hanging out
over there and his friends, if you've been to the show, you
know that photo where he has thefour, the three classmates.
Yes, yes, yes. Darren, his classmate, was going
to say on the left it was his birthday and he came to the show

(37:42):
cute. So they were hanging out.
Yeah, it turns out Darren had been to my shows before.
He was also going to be in KualaLumpur coming to watch my show,
which is happening in this coming week.
Wow, OK. And I was like.
This blog this is. Crazy.
Yeah. You know so when?
Are you? When are you in Singapore and
Malaysia? 25th of July in Singapore. 26th
of July, I'm in Malaysia doing Cantonese comedy.
Lovely, yes, So that would be inon the show notes.

(38:05):
Now, exactly what it was there. Yeah.
So. So it was cool hanging out with
them because, like, by the time Jimmy was busy, I was hanging
out with their friends. And the funniest part is this,
right? We were taking photos with the
Billboard of Jimmy behind us. Yeah.
And we're literally one wall, soright behind.
So imagine we're sitting over here, right?
Yeah. Behind us is the big billboard.
Yeah. And there's a wall.
Yeah. And behind that wall, Jimmy's.
Actual. Jimmy Yeah.
And I'm laughing on that. You know, you're friends with

(38:25):
the real Jimmy. Yeah.
You're taking photos with the picture.
Jimmy what the Hell's wrong withthis?
You know, like, it's insane. Yeah.
We were all having a good time laughing and taking photos and
to chatting and everything. Every now and then Jimmy could
come out and talk to us. Oh nice.
But by that time. You guys warmed up a bit.
Like obviously you're always cool, but like you're like more
than 4. Yeah, more friends.
Like we were actually chatting alot.
He was like, hey, what do you doyou do better in Cantonese or
English? To the point like he actually,

(38:47):
we were talking on Saturday and in between shows, there's a bit
of time. Yeah.
He's like coming to my room. We'll we'll talk and I'm sitting
with him in his room having a chat about stuff.
Yeah, Yeah. So by that time, because like, I
think so, so for example, like the first night I finished my
set, he was like, how are they? I'm like, you know, they're
getting there, but a little bit more Chinese, right?
You know. So I think I have probably built
some sort of rapport or some sort of like trust where he's

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like, how was it, you know? Yes, yeah, he knows.
Yeah, He knows. You'll give him the like the
yeah, yeah, the just he knows you're a pro as well.
Like obviously the standard perspective is different from
anybody. Else, yeah, yeah.
So, you know, so I think. What was his again like
obviously whatever you can share, what was his feedback on
the Hong Kong shows that you didhe mention anything?
No, he didn't mention after that.
Yeah, I think, I think it's beenso busy for him.

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Like he gave me a glimpse of hisschedule is like 2.
That's insane. I mean, yeah, if you just like
you can just see it on on yeah site and stuff like obviously
left straight to Europe. No, no.
No, but you're talking about thetour part.
I'm talking between. The show, yeah, yeah, all the
like, formal stuff, all the like.
Eats. He's got dinners.
Obviously, officials, whatever. Whatever you gotta do.
The the magazine shoes, that this one, the interviews, it was

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like insane. Yeah.
I mean, in a way, I was like looking at him like.
So when I saw when I got a glimpse of the idea, I was like,
OK. And I was in my head going like
I could, I could do that. You can do that, no, but then
obviously as a full time managerthat.
Yeah, yeah, I know that. Put that aside.
Let's let's put aside the handlethe the organizing of it.
I'm talking about handling it. Yeah.
You know, like the intensity of it.

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Yeah. But I was like in my head, I'm
like, oh, OK, I can because I wasn't like trying to be a
little. I could do that too.
I was like, huh, yeah. I don't see myself cracking
under this. No, I don't believe.
I mean, I don't. I think one of the hardest parts
of stand up in general is the performance.
In a way, actually, I tell people like my most relaxed time
is when I'm on stage performing.Yes, but it's also the part, in

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my opinion, that it requires themost attention and effort.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. But that's when you're like
surfing, you know? Yes, Yeah, you're surfing.
You're in the zone by that time.Yes.
But I'm saying like, like you'rein full control.
There's no like, oh, you're going to talk to this people.
Oh, what I have to do now? Yes, this is me.
But the other stuff in comparison, I think it's it
could be more like not as fun for us, yeah, and not as

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challenging or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
But it's like the stuff that is like you kind of need to go
through, but I think it's easier, you know?
OK, OK. If it's if it's like organized
enough. Yeah.
Yeah. You.
Just show up, answer questions. Yeah, yeah.
Show up you're taking photos here, but obviously at his level
there is no possible way you cando it without the manager.
Yeah, yeah. You can't.
You can't. Rely on in memory.
You can't rely on your freaking Google Calendar.

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You can't. Yeah.
And it's almost going to just bethe middle, middle point between
that person and you. It's like, dude, I don't want do
with this right now. You have yes, yes, there was
like for example, every day theywould like to do the Chinese
worshipping with the incense andall stuff fun.
So on Saturday, he sent his agent to go handle it from he's
like, probably resting. And I was like, fair enough,
you. Know yeah, yeah, I will I will
say a conspiracy that based on absolutely nothing.
I think he's sponsored by La BooBoo because maybe yeah, I I

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really think so because he's like you know he's he's pushing
it so hard. But also when he was staying
here at the Rosewood or whatever, yeah.
And he was like, oh, the hotel is nice, which is not nice,
whatever. But then, like, almost every
photo and every story has the booze in the background.
Very well. Come on, man.
Yeah, I. Mean they probably gifted him a
whole bunch of them. Yeah, but like gifted, he's he

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doesn't need the money, you knowwhat I mean?
No. But it's just as gifts because I
know like definitely I. Know as gifts but like he
wouldn't be like kind of make ithighlighting it every time if.
Maybe because now because they're.
Cheap enough that he doesn't. You know he doesn't.
Care, you know. Fair enough.
Maybe it's just that. All right, Jimmy, you need to
respond to that. Are you responsible?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly how did you?
Yeah. Oh man.

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OK, so yeah, you guys hung out. Like was there like some cool
insight that he said that you? Not really.
I mean it was just more like 2 just friends just chatting.
Yeah, it was. It was a very different side to
be able to just chat as and I didn't want to be like, so tell
me, how can I improve? As you know, I don't.
Know of course I was like dude at this point I don't think he
needs yet another person like you know what are the quick tip
you. Yeah I probably did that in

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every interview yeah and I thinkI really appreciated him by that
time he was looking at me as a fellow peer yes yeah.
So wasn't my like, OK, how did be at your level?
What can I have to do is like, yeah, OK, He looks at me as the
same thing. Yes, so I was really.
And also I knew. So this is one of the funny
things that that that week was aweek after I did my solo show.
Yeah, which I almost managed to get Jimmy to come.

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Wow. But he was busy on that Sunday.
Yeah, because he was still in Hong Kong.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He had just come back at but he was busy.
So we I actually managed to ask and like the organizer, the Hong
Kong show, Alex, he was like he.Would have had him just come
watch, not like open or whatever.
No, no, no, no. Open.
Are you mad? No, no, no.
No, I mean, you know, if he was like that, yeah.
He's winning. Sure, but you obviously you
wouldn't have asked. Even And I would be like, dude,

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if you want by I means, but I'm not going to be like, could you
open for me? Yeah, I don't.
So one of my things, I don't want to put him in an awkward
situation. For example, on Saturday, I got
tickets for my mom and my sisterto come to Macau to watch this
show. Sure, sure.
My sister was in town by the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, they were there.
And in my head, I was like, I could kind of push him back.
Hey could you can my mom and sister come up and say hi?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. See, but I'll say they're not
exactly super fans. Yeah, they're not.

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Oh, my God. I saw they'd be like, oh, be
nice to say hi. It'll be nice.
You know what? I don't want to do that to him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to ask his agent.
I don't want to be all like, oh,could I get a little bit?
Yeah. But then before leaving, I was
like, hey, can I get a picture again?
He's like, yeah, sure. No problem.
Yeah. And then it was nice enough to
go into the room and we got a nice picture.
There wasn't like a quick, let'sget a picture, let's go.
He was like, no, no, come here, let's do a good.
One at the time, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was very happy
about it. So I think that whole thing was

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clearly a difference between when we were done in Hong Kong.
I was just another performer by then.
It's like this guy. Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you guys, by the time atthe end of the Macau shows,
you're talking about 5 in Hong Kong.
Yeah, and two in Macau. Yeah, that's a lot.
No, no, no, 4/4 in total. Four.
Yeah, I watched 5 shows. Yeah, I didn't.
Yeah. So I'll be honest with you, the
coolest thing is that for me is I got to watch all nine shows
that I was there. And.

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And it's just cool to see the parts that he mixes around.
Yeah, the way he changes up. Yeah.
When you watch someone 9 times, you know where you're like, Oh
yeah, he he said it. Oh yeah, I see what he did over
there. Yeah, yeah, he changed the beats
sometimes. Or he kind of like, messed up
the word here that oh, oh, oh, whatever he did, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I can tell because every
comedian we, we know, right? So I'll be like, OK, That's how

(44:48):
he saved himself. Got it, Got it.
Because the eyes would not know the difference.
But I'm like, oh, oh, he said wrong.
Oh. Yeah, it's so funny.
And the final question about Jimmy, did you or did you guys
talk about like him, his vision on the Hong Kong?
Like, did you talk to him about the Hong Kong comedy?
Scene. I didn't mention him, but they
was not ask. Yeah, not he.
He did ask a bit, but nothing enough for me to give him a good

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clear description. Yeah, listen, I just like, it
would be cool to get him, I mean, involved as a bigger word
to get him to know, like to either support or like, just
like, you know, be involved in the Hong Kong comedy scene.
Obviously, given his, you know, love for Hong Kong of that.
Like I would just love for him. I don't know, like you.
Know I mean like the. Involved a little bit with the
local scene. So I can be honest with you, the

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short amount of time I did have to talk with him, I couldn't
mention too much about. Did you?
In Hong Kong, we actually have English.
We have Cantonese. Yeah.
There wasn't enough time for me to get into that detail.
Nor was it for me. Oh, let me tell you something.
You know, I couldn't just throw it at him.
Yeah, but I believe that, no, he's probably not aware of the
Hong Kong scene. Yeah, enough to know about it.
If. Anything Tim, when he was here
like a few months ago and he connected with Tim Chan Yeah,

(45:52):
yeah, yeah. And he asked him about the the,
you know, what's happening or whatever.
Like are you on a show or something like?
That. So that was when Rizal Van
Gizzle was here, correct. A guy that knew Jamie, knew that
he was in town. He was hanging out with him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically this guy, William,
he messaged me because I know William.
I have some other stuff. I did some charity stuff with
him as well, and he was like, hey, Jimmy's in town with me.
Yeah. He wants to know what shows
there are. I told him everything.

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Yeah. That's the same night he went to
Deo Wong's dinner. Sure, sure, sure.
That was the night. So, yeah, he had reached out to
ask what's going on. Just a good idea, but not enough
for it to be like, hey, I reallywant to know the scene.
I'm just curious about what's going on in case I want to check
it out. Of course.
Of course. So, yeah.
I mean, I would say if you askedhim now, he'd probably be like,
oh, I guess there's English to Cantonese, you know.
Yeah, Yeah. Which is fair.
I mean, come on. You can't expect him to know.
Of course, no, I would just like, yeah, as I said, like just

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as even as as just a fan of HongKong cultural landscape, I would
like someone like him to be a bit more important support.
Everything that's OK I mean whathe did do I can tell you that at
least he let people get excited about stand up yes, which.
Actually leads us to sorry, keepgoing.
I'll be honest with you, like basically the his audience, not

(46:56):
comedy goers, Yes, but will theygo watch a comedy show?
Maybe. I mean, he did help me sell like
25% of my ticket, yeah. Which is crazy, which is crazy.
But also like to that point, I think a lot of, I imagine a lot
of people who have come to his shows between Hong Kong and
Macau maybe knew what stand up isn't as an idea.
But I've never seen a live show.And now they're seeing they have

(47:16):
seen a live show. They might actually be, yeah,
introduced to the genre. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, like, like it definitelygot people to come to my show
and yeah, my solo show. And they're like, oh, OK, this
is local stuff is pretty good. Yes, yeah.
So the next time they see another local act saying com
show, they're like, oh, you wantto go check it out and see what
it's like? Yeah.
Now, I'll be very honest with you though, you will definitely
have a lot of friction still because they're like, yeah, I

(47:37):
know this comedy, but like that guy is good, but I don't know
about this guy. There's still a lot of doubt
because at the end of the day, people are still watching that
comedian. Yes.
They're not just randomly watching on the.
Show I mean to counter that a little bit like when the product
is good, people will get behind it.
You know what I mean? Like if people are coming with
low expectations or whatever andlike, oh, he's not a star.
And they see someone like, I didn't even want to like, maybe

(47:59):
someone off top of my head like Chris Musni, for example, you
know, very consistent, very, very, very funny.
Yeah. I think people who are coming
look, you're like, oh, what the fuck is this guy?
And then they say Chris. And he's so funny and so clever.
It's like pretty good. It's just like, you will.
The laughter is involuntary, right?
Yeah. They're like, oh, this was
funny. Yeah, there's no.
Question about it. What I'm saying is that even
though people know there's comedy, but they see there's a

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comedy show, the initial friction is still there.
They're like, oh, this is going to be good.
But yeah, when they. But at least because they've
done the comedy before. Yes.
Out of 10 people now, maybe onlytwo would have gone, but now
maybe 6 would have gone. Exactly.
Yes. And then they're like, oh, OK.
Exactly. We just need to get more people
through the door basically. And the product is good.
I do believe in the Hong Kong comedy scene a lot, which

(48:42):
actually leads us to our, this is, I don't mean to be a teaser
or whatever. We are literally out of time.
And we're going to do it in the next episode, not on the
Patreon, but in the next episodewe'll talk about the whole idea
of the Hong Kong comedy season that is now we are rolling out
for this year. And yeah, I will just give you
the full picture of like how howit came about.
And actually, it was I've been thinking about it for a while

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because of many factors, including, you know, my
experience at the Melbourne Comedy Festival.
And but then like, it wasn't always in the back of my mind,
like just something like why it would be cool to have something
like this. And actually what did kick it
into gear for me to start this year is Jimmy shows because, you
know, again, I will go into details the next episode, but
it's because I'm like, Oh, the appetite is there for stand up,

(49:28):
even though he's a star or whatever.
But I, I think there has been a narrative in Hong Kong for the
last few years of like, you know, the retail sector is
fucked and all of that. I don't think that's or like,
you know, the economy is whatever.
I don't think that's totally true.
And Jimmy Shows have shown that.And that's why I'm like, oh, I'm
doing it this year. Yeah.
But we'll go into it in the nextepisode for now and you'll see a

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link in the description. Hong Kong comedy season.
The biggest one that we absolutely need to fill is Joe
Wong coming to Hong Kong on the 13th and 14th of August 13th is
a Mandarin show. If you know friends from
mainland China, please send themthe the details.
It's at the Kitty Woo stadium. It's 900 theater, so Mandarin
13, English 14 and then Joe Wongagain at the Galaxy in Macau G

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box on the 17th. That's a Sunday.
And then the rest of the shows are in the on the website of the
comedy season, Comedy season dotHK.
Other than that, we'll catch youguys on the Patreon and we'll
see you next week with the full details about the comedy season.
Bye bye.